Rangel: Clinton should get on with it

I wish everybody would leave Hillary alone. This is not easy for her. She has campaigned for 16 months straight and traveled thousands of miles. Let this sink in and let her decide her next move. I believe she will concede this week or next. What is the hurry. I’m a Hillary supporter and if people keep pushing her and disrespecting her, there will be hell to pay in November.

What a historic occasion. For the first time, our nation will have an black man as a presidential candidate. Barack Obama, his family, his supporters and our nation should be able to enjoy and savor the impact of this momentous milestone.
Instead, the main topics of conversation in the MSM on television and online are Hillary Clinton’s speech and her refusal to concede – instead of congratulating Barack Obama on winning the nomination.
Once again, Hillary shows that she is not a team player and that she is totally lacking in dignity, grace and class – qualities that I would like in the leader of our nation that represents us to the rest of the world.

“for HRC to not recognize and honor this historic moment in our collective history–when the first African-American became a nominee for President of this great land is– PATHETIC. ” Gerri, many of us are voting against Obama because we’re voting no to threats and insults from Obama supporters LIKE YOU! We’re voting no to the media bias and DNC bias against Hillary since the start. We’re voting no to sexist, racist treatment of Hillary supporters! We’re voting no to scare tactics by Obama supporters! We’re voting no to bullying by Obama supporters! We’re voting no to Obama supporter silence when racist, bigoted remarks fly from other Obama supporters. We’re voting no to this cycle of abuse from Obama supporters!! We’ve had enough of abusive Obama supporters and we’re saying NO! We’re rising up, standing up and voting NO!! NO MEANS NO!!!

rangel-another brother you can trust. not!

i thought he was beyond race…it is a big deal cause he is black; that is racism. judge a person by character not by race you double standard playing people.

DON’T vote for radical Obama in November. Just look at all his white-bashing church friends.
If anyone only cares about himself, it’s Obama.

How amusing Rangel thinks Hillary should “allow” her supporters to shift their allegiance to Obama. That’s predicated on the notion that we actually want to shift our allegiance. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Lois, with all due respect – if Hillary wants to be treated like one of the boys, then she needs to behave like one.
She’s is becoming seemingly delusional (poor reflection on all women)in by not accepting the fact that she has lost.
Sincerely,
An Indiana mom

disgusting voting for mccain
i hope we correct your errors and elect the proper candidate
voting against obama out of spite
sorry but that is just pathetic

Emily – hi again!!
I really think that if you will support high taxes, loss of work, more jobs sent overseas, more crumbling of our infrastructure and more years in Iraq – just to keep from supporting Obama and the Democratic party, then you need to remember the old saying:
Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face.

She should be ashamed of herself. By doing this she is making women look weak. Why should she need”time”? Come on..she is finished and after that speech last night I wouldn’t be surprised of she didn’t get the VP nod. If she were a man she wouldn’t need “time” to concede. It would have been done last night…GET WITH THE PROGRAM HILLARY ..Be a big girl and accept it…

Hillery should abandon the party that treated her like dirt and go independent. If she goes along with the so called “unifying the party”, the 18 million people who voted for her will lose all their respect for her. She does not need people like Pelosi and Dean. He is a loser and her ratings are below Bush’s ratings.

Obama, you can not win the hearts of half democrats, how the hell you can win this election? Your idiot fans are still attacking Hillary so I don’t think they want the votes from Hillary’s supporters at all. We will be happy to stay home or go out to vote for John McCain instead!

YEAH, YOURE RIGHT. HILLARY IS GETTING ON, YOURE NOT..
SHE IS NOT CAMPAIGNING TODAY SO YOU THE MEDIA NEED TO GET A LIFE.
THE “NOMINEE” GETS TROUNCED IN SOUTH DAKOTA AND EVERYWHERE ELSE THAT COUNTS. I’M PROUD OF HILLARY
FIRST TIME IN HISTORY NOMINEE IS GETTING TROUNCED..
OBAMA IS DOA..
DNC AND MEDIA STOLE FROM HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
I HOPE HILARY CLINTON STAYS AWAY FROM THIS GUY… LET HIM FIGHT HIS DEMONS ALONE.
I’D HATE TO HAVE TO VOTE AGAINST HILLARY BUT IF SHE GOES VP WITH THIS DEAD HORSE OBAMA , I MAY VOTE AGAINST HER.
OBAMA SHOULDNY BE HERE.
NOW, IRAN IS UNDER THE BUS!
THE DNC SHOT ITSELF IN THE FOOT IN THEIR ANTI-CLINTON AND SUDDEN LOVE FOR A BLACK MAN GUILT TRIP.
PAYBACK TIME!!!
THE WELL-TIMED ENDORSEMENTS BY RICHARDSON, EDWARDS, MCGOVERN MADE AT THE TIMES HILLARY HAD BIG VICTORIES TO TAKE HER MOMENTUM AWAY.
HOWARD MOOOOOOOO DEAN ASKING SUPERS TO ENDORSE EARLY AFTER THE MEDIA HAD DECALRED OBAMA WINNER–TO FAVOR OBAMA
NANCY BAAAAAH PELOSI LYING ABOUT PARTY RULES … TO FAVOR OBAMA.
WE DO REMEMBER. WE ARE GOING TO HILLARY’S SITE TO TELL HER TO STAY AWAY FROM STUPID OBAMA
THE DEMO PARTY IS A PARTY OF DIRTY OLD MEN,
LOSERS.ORG BACKSTABBERS INC
PAYBACK TIME.
OBAMA IS DOA.
LEAVE HILLARY IN PEACE…
SHE JUST GOT “THEFT” HAPPEN TO HER.
TJ, THE RELENTLESS CLINTONITE,
SAYING TO HELL WITH PARTY UNITY!!

Doesn’t anyone vote based on the issues anymore?
To decide whether or not to vote for someone based on: a rude blog comment of a candidate’s supporter, what someone’s spouse looks like, whether party nomination rules are fair (they aren’t, so work to reform them, don’t vote for the other party), race, gender, age, astrological sign, birthmarks, etc. seems to me to be a very superficial way to cast a vote.

“Unify the party” or “unify the country”? Under Barack Obama, neither will happen anytime soon.
My wife and I supported Obama until around February, when he and his buddies began playing the race card almost daily.
I didn’t care about his race before, but Obama and his friends have turned this into the most divisive campaign in my lifetime (69 years).
Remember when George W. Bush promised to “unify America”? Obama will have even LESS success at doing so.

Hillary supporters don’t have to rush to support Obama – they are free to take all the time you want in deciding who to support. But as far as other Democratic politicians are concerned, they DO have to rush to support Senator Obama. It is simply a matter of perception. Not immediately supporting the nominee will rightfully be seen as trying to undercut or stick it to him. As Rangel said, there is only one person to endorse – Senator Obama – waiting to do so sends a huge message and it is not beneficial to the party, the nominee, or the political future of the elected official that is holding out. Politicians have long memories. Pretty freakin’ simple.
What is unfortunate is that many of her supporters are not demanding that she be treated like any other politician; rather want her to be treated different to the detriment of the clear nominee. When it is apparant that you cannot win, you get off the stage for the good of the party. Period. Dodd did it. Biden did it. Richardson did it. Edwards did it.

Hillary is a champion for health care!! Oh, but she is 2nd only to Rick Santorum of PA in taking the MOST DRUG LOBBY money in the Senate! hmmmm.
She wants every vote counted!! Oh except the caucus votes…hmmmm
It’s less about a black or a woman candidate – and more about picking the best person for the job to bring about change. Voting for the war, is that about change?

Hillary is in actuality just waiting for the opinion polls to come in and tell her what to do, just like when she gets hit with a surprise question and has to poll her way out of it. Arrogant witch!

I am aghast reading these comments. Hillary lost and it was a blow to women? It was a blow to Bill because the exit polls indicate that she rode his coattails. Are you really going to lose the election out of spite? You are condemning the next generation to right wing policies and legal decisions. It is far more reaching than Roe v Wade. When you cool off I urge you to think about this. If Hillary had been gracious, conceded and called for unity would you still be so bitter and spiteful? Her behavior is what is egging you on because if you are that loyal you would be sending her money. I am not hearing of any great infusion of cash from her loyal supporters.

Rangel has been talking with Obama for months. Hillary had a weak campaign team made up of hacks and minorities who never won anything outside their own minority districts. Obama went with Axelrod and won by using the ridiculous caucus system.

Maybe she’s waiting to see what will happen with the Rezko trial. Let’s face it, if he (Rezko) is indicted on all 26/27 counts he may well want to squeal on his former associates to get a lighter sentence. The Jury was very close to a decision (unanimous on all but one count) a few days ago. Of course, I wouldn’t be shocked if the jury got tainted by outside interference. They should’ve been sequestered. JMO, of course.

I am not a Democrat.
That being said I find the personal rancor between the Obama and Hillary fans fascinating. What is fascinating is how these two candidates are basically the same on the vast majority of issues, yet the fans think they are somehow different. Think about it, do you vote on issues or the fact that your pet personality isnt in the running?
The Hillary fan rancor is especially vicious, but I presume the cause is that she lost. Yes, she lost. Even I, who could care less about who the Dems trot out can see that it is over for her. This speech she gave just seems desperate and petty. If you cared about Hillary, you would want her to step down in dignity. Not shame herself.

McCain you can take 4 months vacation and you will be the president. Do not waste any money. Hillary Supporters are with you.
McCain 08

Lois from California wrote, “I wish everybody would leave Hillary alone. This is not easy for her … Let this sink in and let her decide her next move.”
And we were to believe she would be able to “answer the phone at 3am?” Okay, so lets see her decisive leadership. Its scary to think how she would handle really though decisions; this one is easy. In fact, the decision has already been made for her.

Collin, The Voters in the last several months seem to disagree with you. She has been rolling over Senator Obama for months. Now that he is the nominee she will do what is right for her supporters and the nation. I expect no less of the leader I voted for. I believe if a male candidate had given the same speech last night the media would have considered him a power broker. oy need to get over your irrational hatred of her.

The problem here is not with the candidates but with the party!
How completely messed up has this primary been. The convention since 1980 has been all about anointing a leader and nothing about selecting one. The primaries themselves have been completely divisive and seemingly never-ending, and splitting the results instead of a winner take all has been dragging it on foreverrrrrrr. And the way FL and MI voters were treated by the party was undemocratic, and with contempt.
You want fair? Make the primary voting order of the states a lottery each election year. Start in January and end it by April, and have the convention then. Make the the primaries be 3 states a week for 3 months followed by a week long convention where Super Delegates finally can announce their support and vote for a candidate. And finally at all levels of party elections use Ranked-Choice Voting, whereby you select your first, second and third choice for a candidate. Life is about choices and you can’t always get what you want so, if you make it that you can at least have another choice, you empower people and make the process less divisive. What do you think?

She’s through, end of story.

Say what you want about Clinton but she is the best choice to beat McCain in November. Obama will lose simply because he very unstable and cares only for his own ambitions. When he debates McCain without a script he will be destroyed. I am a Clinton supporter and I am now for McCain and will do everything in my power to convince others to vote for McCain also.

To Lois,
I don’t understand why Hillary needs more time. Months ago, it was stated that she would not have the numbers to even get close to Obama. She and her campaign certainly could do the math themselves. This is not a surprise to anyone that she lost.
She is ungracious, a sore loser and classless.
I hope her supporters are taking a good look at
this self-absorbed and spoiled candidate who refuses to accept the outcome of the election.

What’s most unfortunate for women looking to HRC as a role model, is that HRC chooses to cry foul, and play the victim card; instead of holding her head high and being proud of all that she’s accomplished as the trailblazer!
Sometimes trailblazers lose – but they can come back and try again.
That’s what would really honor this historic moment for women – a champion, a graceful loser, not a blaming whiner who is whipping those who see themselves as victims into a frenzy, as we see here.
When you’re the victim you don’t have to take responsibility for yourself – it’s always someone else’s’ fault, i.e., the media, Obama, Obama supporters, etc. etc.

The Democratic party will go down he drain when McCain defeats Obama in the general election. Sensible voters who care for their country will not vote for Obama. Obama will have the country much worse off than Bush ever could.

s4bo, why are/were you a Clinton supporter and what about McCain’s policies can you show me that are the same as Clinton’s. I’m interested to know? Pardon me for saying this but I don’t see any similarities or connection, and anyway as HRC said it herself it ain’t over till the lady in the pant suit sings.

The primary is over. There’s no point in arguments for or against Gravel, Kucinich, Biden, Dodd, Edwards, Richardson, Obama, or Clinton (I did that from memory, hope I’m not forgetting anybody!). Arguments like that are aimed at primary and caucus voters, and uncommitted superdelegates, in order to determine who will win. Once somebody has won, the arguments have no purpose, effect, or meaning.
Doesn’t matter if you are still a Dennis Kucinich diehard supporter. He’s not going to be the nominee. So I don’t need to hear all about his virtues (as you see them) and why I should suddenly get behind him. The fact is that he’s out of the race, just like everyone else except our nominee, Barack Obama. And obviously the same goes for Hillary Clinton.
If Hillary Clinton had behaved like a national political figure of stature, she would have acknowledged what happened last night. And she would not be trying to shove her way onto the ticket as though this is about her instead of about the future of the country.
She has let down the women of America, including me, by deciding that normal political rules don’t apply to her because she is a woman and a Clinton so she deserves very very special treatment. She doesn’t. My role model for a woman politician is very different: Nancy Pelosi. She competes on equal ground with the men, wins, and doesn’t expect special treatment.
Another point of comparison: We honor and love Nancy Pelosi for breaking barriers, but we don’t turn it into some disturbing obsessive thing with crypto racist undertones. Or did I misunderstand the woman Clinton supporter at Saturday’s committee with her rant about the “inadequate black man” and Geraldine Ferraro’s similar remarks? No, I didn’t think so.

I find it ironic that Hillary’s supporters are upset over her treatment by the mainstream media during the campaign. Hey, welcome to our world…Republicans are bashed all the time by these same pundits. Get a thick skin and quit your whining.

If you vote for anyone other than Obama you have to be a racist to do so according to Obama supporters. I live in rural America and I am bitter so I will just cling to my guns, religion and anti-immigration views and vote for McCain. Call me a racist no matter to me I love my country and will not vote for Obama who wants to tear our country down.

Krissy:
I agree that candidates traditionally run to their base in the primary and run to the middle in the general. McCain, however, doesn’t excite the conservative base (supporting your contention that he is more moderate than some Republicans). But at the same time, once a candidate runs on a particular platform (and part of that platform is appointing conservative judges to the federal bench) then it is quite a risk to vote for them on the assumption that they are lying to us all don’t you think? I guess my overall point is that Obama and Hillary are almost identical on the issues. I’ll take the candidate that is in line with my priorities and progressive beliefs over the “sort of moderate Republican” every time. That’s me. I do not presume to speak for you. For waht it is worth, I would have sucked it up and voted for Senator Clinton if she were the nominee. But I am a pretty far left on the political spectrum (left of all of the candidates) so almost any Democrat is more aligned with my personal beliefs, hence, they get my vote.

Amazing,
Obama is the presumptive nominee and his supporters are still being jerks.What’s the rush? You people make me ill.

Matt,
You don’t believe people should vote out of spite, but it’s OK to vote on the basis of gender or color? Are all Democrats hypocrites?

I’m an independent. I vote for who I believe is the best candidate to represent me, my views, and this country. I can tell you that after witnessing the Democratic Party’s schizophrenic behavior with regard to FL & MI, Hillary’s behavior throughout the primary, and now all of the juvenile squabbling between Democratic supporters (like on this blog), I’m wondering how I could possibly vote for a Democrat this fall. They can’t even run their own party, let alone a country. I do like Obama though so will be listening closely to the debate between him and McCain. To you Dems – grow up! If Hillary Clinton wants to be President then she needs to act like a REAL woman and stop being a crybaby.

OK, here’s the deal. The Democrat party prefers Obama as the nominee, but they don’t really care if he wins or loses because he will bring voters who will punch a straight Dem ticket and improve their chances of increasing their margins in the house and senate.

Her speech last night sounded more like an acceptance/victory speech rather than a valedictory, seriously. Then after, it’s Obama calling her and leaving a voice message congratulating her on winning S.D. No congratulation or acknowledging that he got the nomination from her. She is in denial and should get some help, as in seeing a shrink.

tankfixer,
The American Presidency is no one’s “birthright” … it is a priviledge and is bestowed to a candidate by the American people and our electoral process. She lost and she lost according to our system. She is now obligated to bow out. She embarrassed herself and our country last night. A very selfish woman, indeed.

Charlie, Charlie, Charlie….Miss Hillary is doing what she’s always done: everything it takes, no matter what, no matter how embarrassing, no matter how spiteful, no matter….what it does to you and your buds…..to maintain as much power as possible for as long as possible. What is this puzzling to you? It’s no mystery to us simpletons out here in flyover country. Hillary’s just being Hillary, Chuck! Clear your throat and get in touch with reality.
This is going to be such a fun summer. I’ve told our son in Denver to stock up on popcorn and have the lawnchairs ready, because there is going to be a show! … courtesy of these brilliant democrats who have nominated a guy with 3 years experience and no results of any kind to show for it. As a conservative, I can’t stand John McCain, but he actually DOES have a record that is observable.

Regina I have spent a lot of hours on the Internet researching Obama. What I have found out is utterly shocking. Obama has not shown that he is the one so far to be President. I take what I hear on the mainstream media and talk shows with a grain of salt because as you know they report what they want us to know. If Obama would come out and answer a lot of questions that Americans have about him I think that it would be different. So far he refuses to do that and where I live this is hurting him terribly.

Bob rice I understand you completely. More people need to listen to your wisdom.

Rangel is right on. Who the hell does she think she is pushing her way on the ticket like that?! She needs to go away already.

Obama has also achieved what no woman has ever achieved before. He has won the nomination for President of the United States for a major political party.

Regina,
I suggest again that you read his first book. That’s where his individual racism comes through loud and clear.
As for his being a uniter, why was he the only member of the Illinois legislature to vote AGAINST a measure seeking to assure that child molesters did not get out of jail early? Not a mainstream guy, and I don’t believe change is necessarily good unless you have some idea where it’s taking you.

I was a huge fan HRC and Bill, but if they are encouraging or inviting some of the remarks I have read…then it is time to turn the page. There is no such thing as a Reagan Dem…there is such a thing as a person who votes against the wallet they can’t feed their family from. The WV, KY and Alabama in the middle of PA and OH votes belong to McCain. Poor people of this country black and white have always been split. Any woman who decides that Obama is too much or not worthy should consider the Supreme Court nominee or how about the FACT that there are always more poor people when a Republican leaves office than when they came in…about me…I am black, proud gun owner, a vet of the USMC, non degreed(GED), I am an options trading specialist, my household earnings put me in the top 10%. I am living the American dream. I win no matter who is elected, I always have and always will!(can you say the same?) I would rather see the middle class get help that no GOP member is interested in. With that said…if somebody in a trailer somewhere wants me to get more money because they are mad, cool…Thanks

Hey Bryce some of the Hillary supporters may have a high school education but most of the older are educated with masters degrees unlike the uniformed pseudo intellects Obama is attracting. You people don’t have a clue. Come November we as democrats will be trounced by McSame because the strongest candidate wasn’t picked. You Obama supporters are in for a rude awakening. “God help us”.

Wake up people, Hillary doesn’t have 18million supporters anymore. Take your heads out of the sand. God bless Obama and family. OBAMA 08

Hey MR- I assume you are a Democrat supporting Hillary. If so, who are you voting for? I read your message to indicate total dislike for both McCain as well as Obama. So who are you choosing? Just Curious.

Hey MR,
Wasn’t she the strongest candidate coming in to this race? How’d that work out for her? How did the strongest Democratic candidate known to all of mankind let a first term Senator clean her clock? Remember, this was supposed to be over with after 5 FEB? Her words, not Obama’s

Also, i think it is interesting that people think the DNC helped Obama. If you look at it carefully, they actually hurt Obama. They moved the delegate line further away from him, and did not allow him to campaign in FL or MI. By bending their rules, they actually helped the Clinton campaign, not his.

Jackie Obama did campaign in Florida. The DNC was the one that helped Obama get the nomination. They pushed the delegate count up to 2118 but they also gave Obama the delegates to cover the increase in delegates needed to get the nomination.

People this is not about votes.
You cant count votes in a caucus state.
It is about delegates and he has the number.
GET REAL!

I was listening to a progressive talk show host on a SF station last night and I couldn’t believe what she and the callers were saying about how Hillary’s supporters are all “uneducated” so they were ignorant, and hate talk like that. It really angered me. While I am a Hillary supporter and have a college education, I know that just because a person has a degree doesn’t make them any smarter. I know that people who don’t have college educations have an education and knowledge and insight that doesn’t always come from a degree. Also, considering the fact that a lot of Obama supporters don’t have college degrees and a lot of Hillary supporters do, I don’t understand why people would say things like that as it is so mean-spirited and divisive. I had been thinking about it for awhile, but after hearing that, I went to the elections office this morning and left the democratic party. There are cruel people everywhere I am afraid, but right now it seems to be the Obama supporters who take the prize.

n9b12- Chris Matthews? Are you basing your assessment on only 1 media figure? Had Hillary chosen to make many of her ridiculous remarks through surrogates instead of making them herself, she might have become the nominee. You can’t blame the media for that.

Hillary didn’t start out running a good campaign, but she sure finished strong. Unfortunately, in this day and age, money and media seem to determine what happens in America. I kind of admire McCain for that reason as he was able to win the nomination without buying it or having the support of the media. He really is a different kind of politician.

n9b12,
And, I guess that’s where we disagree. Obama was getting killed about the Rev. Wright issue and she helped with the pile on. I think she had every advantage and simply squandered it because she didn’t plan for the long haul. By the time she figured out what was happening, it was too late. As far as NOV, I think if he can get Hillary out of his hair, he can get it going on McCain. Admittedly Obama’s got a lot of work to do, but Hillary’s faux-Republican attacks should help him with what he’ll face in the GE.

I met both Bill and Hill and have been an avid supporter and cheerleader for both. But this has tarnished their reputations. Hillary, the boys all knew when to give up. You are making a mockery of elderly white, women (such as myself). Both Bill and Hill need to get out of politics and get a life. Hillary YOU ARE NOT a uniter but a divider. Go Obama

“many of us are voting against Obama because we’re voting no to threats and insults from Obama supporters LIKE YOU! We’re voting no to the media bias and DNC bias against Hillary since the start.” – former dem in chicago
How about instead of voting “against” Obama because of perceived personal attacks by his supporters, vote “for” universal healthcare, livable wages, endind the war in Iraq, finding an alternative to foriegn oil dependancy.
Vote “for” the greater good, its time to take our personal feelings off the table and do what’s best for this nation.
Fyi, silence is consent, not voting at all is just as bad as voting for McCain and his 4 more years of Bush Agenda.

It is funny and unbeleivable to see how the end democratic primary is being played out in a country that stand at the fore front of democracy in the world. The ongoing scenerio playing out at the end of democratic party primary is what make demoncracy so difficulty to achieve in many troubling countries of the world. Democracy is based on rules agreed upon by all and must be kept by all irrespective of Age, Gender , color, Race and association. After the long fight haul of electoral process the whole party is agreed to come together and support who ever emerge at the top. This is no lesson to be taught nor be reminded of in America. It is surprising to find all sort of comment written by different people in the blog based on their association with one person or the other and not solely on the principle of democracy. Each step from the beginning of this primary process has clearly showned the imperfection in practice of Democracy in America. This imperfection rear its head now because we have supporters that affiliated so much to a person than to the priciple of democracy. This little aberration is like a hole punctured in a canoe that if not attended to could drown the rider. The difficulty of actualising a peaceful democratic practise in some countries today is due to passionate support for a front runner that in most cases take advantage this position to lead the supporters in direction suited by the front runner. For democratic process to exist with no acrimony and to further the trust and beleive in the process the front runner must come out to accept the defeat and pledge his or her support to whoever emerge the winner. Failure to do this create doubt and disbeleive in the process which could degenerate into unintending chaose. This primary should be clear to all that it is an electoral process that can go either way depending on how you play it as long as everyone adhere to the rule and regulation of the process.The process is to elect and support whoever emerge the leader. Any objective beside this should be address under different platform.

I too wish that everyone would just shut up and leave her alone. Many other candidates have met with their supporters after a defeat and then a few days later endorsed the front-runner. This is unusual…since on the night in question…she was still winning primaries. I don’t believe that she wants the V/P position. Why would she? Every person who is promoting this is saying that she is only interested if it is perceived as the only way that the Democrats can win the WH in November. Her supporters who are pushing this are doing her a disservice. The media is turning this into a circus…as they are want to do. I have no doubt that Senator Clinton will endorse Obama this week. How can she say, and by the way, I don’t want to be V/P and will only take it if is the only way the democrats can win the election in the fall. I can imagine the media and Obama reaction to that. I hope when this is over that she takes a vacation before going back to the Senate. Many of my friends responded to Hillary’s website with one word 2012.

I have been watching this primary season non-stop and remember clearly Clinton’s speech about ‘magic numbers’. Now when Obama has crossed this line instead of giving a speech that acknowledges his accomplishments she holds her supporters ransom while she figures out what she wants?? For all her supporters talk about sulking and not participanting in November because she didn’t win… this makes me sick. Hillary is behaving like a spoiled child… and all of you that support this behavior continue to enable her tantrums!

Hillary didn’t want to be Vice President before when she was asked, but all of a sudden since she is not going to get the nomination she wants to be it. She should of taken her lying butt out of the race before. She will be the reason the democratic party loses in November. She hasn’t done anything for the state of NY but let jobs go out of the state.

Emily, if you beliefe that pulling our military out of Iraq at this point will make the terrorists “go away”, I want to know what you’ve been smoking, because that’s some really good stuff!!! Posted by: Mike in San Antonio | Jun 4, 2008 7:35:47 PM
No, but they weren’t killing each other in Iraq before, because Saddam would have dug some more mass graves for them.

j
I seen both sexism and racism but that’s not what decided the primary,it was ~delegates~get that through your head,and 4 delegates wasn’t going to help her win a race that she agreed before the race wouldn’t count.
Children name call,adults discuss.
All the republican media radio and tv went out of their way to speak positive glowing everthing Clinton. I knew something was up when,Billy Kristol,Brit Hume,Bill O’reiley,Rush Limbaugh and Hannity and Colmes couldn’t gush enough about Hillary,again children call names,adults discuss in a mature fasihion!

I’m a Hillary Clinton supporter who will now vote for McCain. We cannot afford another President who needs on the job training and we still do not know what Obama stands for except change….which means what? As bad as the Bush years have been it could get a whole lot worse. I’d like to more choices but between the two….I’ll take the known…which is McCain. It’s a huge risk to give this kind of power to someone you know so little about with such “radical” ties. Look at history.

Posted by: J | Jun 4, 2008 8:52:53 PM
I don’t care if they lie. I just want government to leave me alone to either succeed or fail on my own. No MANDATED health insurance (I like what I have and can pay for it), no tax breaks for the wealthy (my taxes is making up the difference), no send my kid to Iraq because of … whatever lie it is this month.

Tina: I see the brain/deads have entered the room. I am willing to bet you a trip to your local Chucky Cheese restaurant and my truck, gun rack and my favorite pastor Rod Parsley that Obama wins in one of the greast landslides in the history of Presidential elections.

When the primary season began we had debates. LOTS of debates. For those that are crying foul for any public negativity directed at Hillary in the main stream news, may I remind you; every one of those early debates were like watching “The Hillary Clinton Show” with her special guests; Dennis Kucinich, Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd, Joe Biden, What’s his name?, AND Barack Obama!!! (With enthusiastic applause responses inserted in between each). Everyone else on stage was the presumed runner-up and/or loser. She was repeatedly given the most airtime to voice her positions on every subject imaginable. The others were treated like second class citizens time after time. It was a sham. She was the heir apparent…the entitled one. (Ok…another entitled one. We already have one of those and we all know what a disaster THAT turned out to be). If Hillary couldn’t win in a landslide with all the advantages that she was given early on, then she doesn’t deserve to win. Period.
I gave her a pass on the lies she told about the landing on the tarmac in Bosnia but when she started referencing the assassination of Bobby Kennedy, more than once, I might add…she went too far in my opinion. And NO! Obama should Not consider her for veep after that. As another blogger wrote a couple of weeks ago…”if Obama selects Hillary as his running mate, he’ll need a food taster for the next 4 years.” No truer words were ever spoken.
And another thing. Do you really want another president that can’t control some of his or her spending?
She was drowning in money a year ago…including a little help from Rupert Murdoch. (That’s the one thing that turned me off to her). And now she’s 20mil in debt. I’m sure all of her supporters feel Obama owes her a refund. Not!
Her behavior now is one of a leech who’s trying to drain the life from its’ host.

To all the people with the negative comments about Obama, get over it!!
Hillary lost because Obama is the better candidate. We all have a personal opinion and the majority ruled.

TO HILLARY
The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
Pride comes before crash!

God, the people threatening to vote McCain or stay home out of spite sound hilarious. You’re willing to vote for a 3rd bush term with regards to tax breaks for the rich, no end in sight for the Iraq war, conservative judges like Scalia and Alito, restrictions on Roe-v-Wade, etc, all because you perceive some type of slight against you and your candidate… It’s no wonder this country has headed downhill recently, people have stopped voting in their interests and will vote on wedge issues and emotion instead. We’re all doomed…

it was always only about hillary. only the equally selfish don’t see that. and yeah, I won’t be voting for her next senate run and will gladly campaign for whoever opposes her…on the democratic ticket.

Smitty
Who’s pastor runs the whitehouse? Separation of church and state,remember.
Never on the stump does he reflect that point of view,never.

You may or may not be right.
This is no time to continue with your backstabbing ways. You need to be right or is it better to be kind? Are you American? Is your soul so hateful that you can’t stop foaming at the mouth?
Have a heart. let it go..move on.
Let these people heal. Have some reverence.

Kali
I must disagree. Hillary didn’t have a message until Pa,she started to hit her stride the second half of the race.The first half she was all over the place,(Obama was consistant with his message from the start,)even the political analyst said she made a mistake running as an incumbent with experience of which she had none,(when she didn’t have an executive position in Bill administration,) in a yeat of change.She allowed 11 straight victories to pass that yielded an insurmountable delegate lead, Obama held all the way.Mark Penn did’nt understand delegate allocation (he thought it was winner take all)
I beleive her followers are sincere,but emotional and can’t see the forest for the trees right Now!!

Typical Hillary supporter,name caller disrespectful,uninformed of issues’and EMOTIONAL,IRRATIONAL,just like their leader.
What does being Americans have to do with not being for Hillary,please.We call it smart enough not tobe confused.
This is a blog some fing it enjoyable to discuss topics.some don’t

Senator Clinton should keep fighting until the convention.
I wouldn’t give up if I were her.
Let the media and the Democrats go nuts.
African Americans should be ashamed of themselves for not defending the Clintons.
President Clinton and Senator Clinton have fought for civil rights their whole life.
President Clinton chose to have his office in Harlem NY rather than on 5th Avenue overlooking Central Park to keep helping “African Americans”
I am a white American and discusted with African American’s treatment towards the Clintons.

Let us all congratulate Senator Obama on a campaign well run and well executed. A year and a half ago everyone was running away from the juggernaut Clinton machine.
He took them on and won.
He deserves the world of credit. Frankly many in the country is tired of the Clintons but didnt have the chutzpat to tell them to step aside. Evan Bahy for one would have been a good candidate for the Dems this year but he let the Clintons sideline him.This trading of the presidency between two families over the last two decades needed to be interrupted. Especially since Jeb is coming in 2012.
Obama and his supporters have accomplished what everyone thought was impossible a year ago. They deserve to run the country they have demostrated it.
Congratulations and thank you for relieving the Clinton burden.

Ha!
Rangle (One of the Clintons biggest mouthpieces) is at it again. He is a shining example of the hipocracy that overflows the Democrats cup!
He knows as well as anyone with half a brain that the delegates have not officially cast any votes yet. Alot can happen in the upcomming days…And at this point the race is way to close to call.
What a pathetic group the Dim-o-crats are.

I’ve heard it said before…the extreme right and the extreme left have so much in common, they end up being pretty much the same.
The Democratic Party is now the racist party who beats up on women and doesn’t think it’s a big deal to take money from someone who has just been found guilty of 16 counts of fraud. Are we suppose to believe Obama didn’t/wasn’t going to give this guy anything in return?
And NOW we have Caroline Kennedy as an advisor on the VP slot with Maria Shriver’s name being bantered about.
The Democratic Party is just a party headed by a bunch of rich people who exploit certain segments of the American population so they can be in power, stroke their own egos, make a lot of money at our expense, get jobs for their friends, and indulge in a lot of myth making so they have a “place” in history.

McCain
isn’t the only one trying to get the Hillary supporters,they are surrounded and being courted, by the hate groups that wnat to prey on them and use their hatred,to further their agenda.Don’t forget the republicans are stirring things up too,they want rhe dems divided

OK WOMENget it out of your systems–and then unite and kick some republican butt—get even dont get mad

Obama didn’t make the rules he followed them.
This isn’t a black white issue.
All the hate you feel is misdirecred,hate the fact Soldiers are dying in a made up war for oil,hate that people are losing their homes in record numbers,hate that the health care system isn’t available for all,hate all the lies spoon fed to all Americans from this administration,hate the amount of money the U.S. is borrowing from China to fight this war,Hate the debt we owe to China and hope they don’t own America if we can’t pay back the loans,,hate things not people,or Satan wins,but never give in to evil and hate just for the sake of hating…you look weak and scared!

Even Hillary admits her differences with Obama are small,compared to Mccain. She has party loyalty,something her supporters seem to lack. She loves her party and watch,she’ll fight hard for the democrats,watch.
Charlie Rangle didn’t flip flop,he faced reality,it’s over time to unite.

Where are we?
About the same number of people voted for
each candidate. Your 18 million are not more noble or sincere than the other 18 million. Somebody loses in a close election. There are hurt feelings. Nobody likes to be on the side that didn’t win.
There is a load of reason for all to be upset. Sexism was pretty evident, and so was racism. Press coverage was sloppy and not objective. That cut both ways, with some so-called news reporters slanting things for each candidate.
We have a flawed system. Voters voted.
Republican trolls voted in Democratic primaries. Some votes counted more than others. Rush Limbaugh tried to fiddle the outcome. Fanatics on both sides threw ridiculous insults at the other candidate and at supporters of the other candidate. Pretty childish, and not at all useful.
Where are we? McCain will continue
Bush policies. That needs to be prevented. If we yield to our self-righteous anger, and don’t vote, or vote for McCain, we will deserve the horrendous mess that brings our country.
Do we really believe that Hillary wants
us to help McCain? I don’t think so.

RHONDA W is agree with you 100% i wish all the women supporters of Hillary were as rational as you.Obviously they were voting based on gender, because if u were listening to all the debates there is not much difference between the policies between O and H , while Mccain is opposite, WAKE UP U IGNORANT PEOPLE A VOTE AGAINST OBAMA IS A VOTE AGAINST THE WISHES OF HILLARY LOL

Billy, you gotta stop drinking the HATERADE!!!
McCain’s not Bush, and for you to compare the two is like comparing Hillary to Barack.
You want universal health care? Better look at England, Canada, and Cuba’s systems. They don’t work so well. Yes, everyone has health care, but when you get diagnosed with cancer and have to wait 6 months-2 years to see an oncologist (sp?), you might just as well have no health care at all, because you’ll be just as dead. See, government interference in business does not mix well. Government does not like free enterprise, except when it comes to tax time.
As for Thomas, Roberts, Alito and Scalia, I’d actually like to see MORE of those “originalist” type judges, who do their best to uphold the constitution as the founding fathers visualized instead of legislating from the bench like your more liberal judges do (Brayer, Souter, Ginsberg and Kennedy). The job of the Supreme Court is not to legislate from the bench, it to simply uphold the constitution of the United States. Now, if you consider THAT an atrocity, you have some serious personal issues.
You whine about cutting taxes from the “rich” at the expense of the “poor”, but fail to realize that the top 10 percent of money earners pay 70 percent of the annual tax bill. The bottom 50 percent only pay 3 percent of the tax bill. So, don’t sit there and accuse the “rich” of getting all the breaks. The government has NO BUSINESS playing Robin Hood with our tax dollars.
And SCHIPS would have passed if the DEMS had not stuck in legislation that would have allowed thousands of ADULTS (most of which are capable of working and getting their own insurance) access to the medical care that was SUPPOSED to be for the CHILDREN of low-income families.
And say what you will about the war, but if we pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan now, within 6-12 months we will see another attack on the United States. You say we can’t afford to be there, and we’ve lost 4,000 servicemen. I say we can’t afford NOT to be there! The 4,000 servicemen we’ve lost pales in comparison to the number of troops lost in Vietnam, and that pales in comparison to the hundreds of thousands lost in WWII. While I mourn the loss of each servicemember (I was one myself, for 24 years), know that WE servicemen and women fully understand what we’re getting ourselves in to, and are prepared to give our lives in defense of our country. Are you prepared to do the same?
You want to blame someone for the economy? Blame CONGRESS! Same goes for high gas prices. CONGRESS was the entity that refused to allow American oil companies more access to ANWR, the Gulf Coast and other recent massive oil finds INSIDE the US. Your fellow Dems decided that we shouldn’t use our own oil to drive down prices worldwide. No, that decision falls directly on YOUR party’s shoulders.
Do we need less dependence on oil? Yes, but it’s not gonna happen unless CONGRESS gets off their duffs and starts allowing the use of nuclear power (and I don’t mean nuclear weapons!) as a long-term alternative, and starts looking ahead at other fuels, like hydrogen. Short term (10-20 years), we’re still going to need the oil. No way around it, as Congress and the environmental whacko corps has us backed in to a corner.
Oh, and get rid of all those payments to the UN. Bunch of corrupt, ineffective politicians who use OUR money to fill their own coffers in other countries.
So, Billy, stop bashing conservatives and start looking at your own party.

mr
why do you think we are in iraq—disgusting is it not—-same crap as vietnam

Andy newsflash the reason for all this is the war. The exact same thing happened in the last Gulf War if you remember. Opec see’s a reason jack up the prices and also I agree with you on International Bankers. But they see an opening to do this because of this illegal war plain and simple. We’re actually lucky prices aren’t 6 to 7 dollars a gallon because the price of a barrel of crude has more than tripled since a couple of years ago.

It was strange behavior-again very much defiant-The Clintons owned the street corner for many years and I suppose it is hard to let go-but we are in a new generation-lets time to move on! Hillary needs to find the grace to let you—I have always said-The Clintons don’t play well with other in the sandbox-

Don’t care about election because I don’t vote, But in my opinion, the Dem or Rep never did anything to help me. But I think most of us out there should leave Hillary alone. She is going through a lot right now. I think the reason why she lost is because she followed the old style. She should have paid more attention to the media and compete more in smaller states instead of ignoring it. She is not saint also, She said one thing, then changed and say something else. My opinion of Obama is all he is good at is holding big rallies and try to speak like JFK and MLK. But he sounds more like the people at his church. Well he is a veteran when it comes to big rally because if you look at the tape of his church it looks like they are holding rallies instead of preaching the words of god and what’s in the bible.

I can’t believe the nonsense being spewed out by the Clinton supporters. Get it through your heads that Obama won this primary fair and square. Hillary had every advantage in the book, but ran a disorganized chaotic campaign. She changed her message about as often as her hairstyle back when she was a first lady – “35 years of experience”, “ready on day one”, “3 am phone call”, “working class whites (hint, hint)”, “won the popular vote (if you just count the states she won…)”. Along the way, she was caught lying about Bosnia, offending needlessly the leaders and people of Russia, China, and Iran. The list of gaffes go on and on. What is it about “lose” that you don’t understand? At this point, I wouldn’t even vote for Hillary for dogcatcher of Central Park!

DON’T WORRY ALL THESE ANGRY HILLARY VOTERS WILL MAKE HER THE LAUGHING STOCK
OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
Her legacy and ploitical future is at stake. If her supporters ,want her to lose her position in the democratic party,VOTE Mccain
Her NY seat is threatened by her behavior in the primary. If Obama lose she is done…and her people took her down,by thinking they were supporting her.GREAT NEWS,it will sting more!

Novella, I believe the process WAS unfair to the people of both Michigan and Florida, but it’s more the fault of the states’ Democratic parties and legislatures for not following the Democratic party’s rules. It’s also the fault of both candidates for agreeing to those rules in the first place. If they thought there were going to be problems, they should have been addressed by the candidates LONG before they agreed to the DNC rules.

Hillary Clinton is a narcissistic woman. Her self obsession puts into question whether she is fit to be a leader, let alone a president. This theatre of Rep. Rangel convincing her to change her mind is a farce. It’s one of her ploys and he is her operative. Thank god she is off the scene. Barack Obama should stay far away from her. There are talented, decent women in politics. Indeed we have to have a woman president some day. As for this campaign, Mr. Obama is a victor fair and square. Hillary, like anyone else, has to understand that the presidency is not owed to her. Although some of the sexism during this campaign was reprehensible, it is not because of sexism that she lost. Barack Obama’s campaign has not been sexist; if anything it appears that they were careful in dealing with some of the low down tactics that Hillary was throwing at them. It is demeaning for women to use ‘gender card’ to explain away her loss. As for her character, some of us now see why she was demonized by the some–it is quite deserved. Finally, being a US senator of New York is an honorable position. She got that position without ever holding any elected office. In fact, she got a leg up through her marriage. So, this latter day feminist is riling up women to the detriment of her own party and to be vindictive against the victor. One can easily say her self entitlement, conniving and the ‘fairy tale’ of her having 30+ years experience caught up with her. Now, she wants to be treated like a royalty. We have a Clinton fatigue now.