Schwarzenegger Slams Offshore Drilling ‘Politicians’
ABC News’ Tahman Bradley and Bret Hovell Report: In a strong rebuke Thursday of lifting the ban on U.S. offshore oil drilling, California Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger seemed to knock the standard-bearers of his party: President Bush and Arizona Sen. John McCain.
Schwarzenegger, a long critic of his party on the environment, used surprisingly frank language to buck politicians who support lifting the 27-year-old ban of offshore drilling.
"Politicians have been throwing around all kinds of ideas in response to the skyrocketing energy prices, from the rethinking of nuclear power to pushing biofuels and more renewables and ending the ban on offshore drilling, it goes on and on the list," Schwarzenegger said, per The Saint Petersburg Times.
"But, anyone who tells you this will lower our gas prices anytime soon is blowing smoke."
Mr. Schwarzenegger made his remarks in Florida at Gov. Charlie Crist’s climate change summit. Crist may as well consider himself one of the politicians that Schwarzenegger was broadly referring to. An enthusiastic McCain ally, Crist too favors lifting the drilling ban.
In a reversal of his early position on the issue, presumptive GOP presidential nominee McCain last week joined with President Bush in expressing support for lifting the offshore ban, hoping that expanding domestic energy production will help lower the cost of energy. McCain qualifies his support for lifting the ban; he wants individual states to decide if drilling possibilities work for them. Democrats and their soon-to-be presidential nominee Illinois Sen. Barack Obama have called the move a gimmick.
Schwarzenegger’s remarks are perhaps even more noteworthy because the California governor did not take the same opportunity to swipe at "politicians" when he campaigned for McCain in Santa Barbara, Calif., on Tuesday.
"He knows it’s time to get serious about global warming," Schwarzenegger said of McCain.
McCain alluded to the fact that Schwarzenegger disagreed with him on offshore drilling, but the two left it at that.
Schwarzenegger did not criticize anyone by name, and the governor’s office insists he was not knocking McCain or Crist because Schwarzenegger’s understanding of both men’s position is that they do not believe off shore oil drilling will have an immediate impact on gas prices.
Schwarzenegger press secretary Aaron McLear reached out to ABC News in an effort to clarify the governor’s remarks. "When he was saying that people who think drilling will have an impact are just blowing smoke, he was not referring to McCain or Crist," said McLear. He did, however, confirm that Schwarzenegger was accurately quoted by the St. Petersburg Times and that he opposes offshore drilling.

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Posted by: The Commander Guy | June 26, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
but i thought mccain didnt belive in global warming oh know he does that mr mcflip does he even know what global warming is or any of the other issuses like the economy healthcare education energry crisis well listening to his speeches and his town hall meetings im truly convinced the man is an IDIOT!!!!!
Posted by: angie | June 26, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
What a smackdown of McCain! Arnold is seen as a bipartisan GOP model, so McCain has really migrated right if the almighty Ahnold is telling him off. No hope in California now.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | June 26, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
California is the blueprint for catastrophe. Check out “Martial Law 911″ on Google to see what blueprint Arnold really is following…
Posted by: pity | June 26, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
No off shore drilling on California coast and no cars, truck, buses on California roads and highways. That seems logical and fair to me.
Posted by: Mai | June 26, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
McCain and Crist, the Terminator has you in his sights.
Posted by: Dan | June 26, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
i suddenly like arnold!
Posted by: bhrandon | June 26, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Thumbs up to Arnold, thumbs down to McCain.
Posted by: Drew Hoffman | June 26, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
McCain is down 28 points in California. Too bad. I had hoped he would be close enough in the polls to sink a bus load of futile cash into that state. I will write it now for the record: McCain will not win a single state Kerry won in 2004. Obama will win Colorado, New Mexico, Iowa, Virginia, Ohio, and Maine.
Posted by: Kevin | June 26, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
don’t want to drill oil off the USA coast arnold maybe don’t need electricity shipped from the midwest or water from the colorado river
Posted by: jake | June 26, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Lifting the ban on U.S. offshore oil drilling would cause oil prices higher, the criminal well always fine a reason to drive prices higher. The only way to lower the prices is to lock up the criminal and the politicians that take kickbacks from the oil companies!
Posted by: Stephen | June 26, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
HIDING geevill?
Posted by: proamerica | June 26, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
This is a clear indication that McSame is a 3rd WBush term, thanks to people like Arnold who are thinking clearly and who are not confused as McSame thing will getter better for America and Americans.
Posted by: BKMC | June 26, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Right. Exactly. Respect Arnold, Bush Admin… Respect also the EPA!
Check out a different, comedic take on the situation. Today it’s pretty funny.
http://www.236.com/news/2008/06/25/the_white_house_is_rubber_ever_7365.php
Posted by: Morgan Walker | June 26, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
The governator is right again. McCain, you are wrong and I will NOT vote for you.
Posted by: Mark | June 26, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
I have to agree, drilling is not the answer, finding new energy sources is.
Posted by: Nunya.Beesness | June 26, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
“…anyone who tells you [offshore drilling] will lower our gas prices anytime soon is blowing smoke.” — Schwarzenegger
He said this in Florida at Crist’s climate summit? Crist won’t be inviting Schwarzenegger to the sunshine state anytime soon. I’m sure Crist would much rather Schwarzenegger go where the sun DON’T SHINE. :p
I love it. Go terminator.
Posted by: Whys | June 26, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
At least all republicans aren’t stupid.
Posted by: Joe | June 26, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Worldwide food shortage, liberal answer,”Need more farmers producing more food so prices will go down.” — Worldwide oil shortage, liberal answer, “More oil production will not drive prices down.” ?????? Crazy. — Folks fuel prices are rising all over the world – it is called supply & demand
Posted by: T | June 26, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
McCain said it perfectly: leave it up to the states. If Arnold doesn’t want drilling in CA, then he can talk to those of us in California about it.
Obama on the other hand wants to bring the heavy hand of government into every facet of our lives with a blank-check mentality funded by our tax dollars. Prepare to surrender your wallets if Obama gets elected.
Posted by: Jared | June 26, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
The Govenator spent tons of money convincing Californians to spend money they didn’t have to hold a special election to get rid of Grey Davis and since then Arnold hasn’t done anything to help resolve California’s issues. He can’t even come up with a budget without taking more money from our kids and their educations–so I really don’t pay much mind to his opinion on the subject of off shore drilling. Personally if other countries are going to get away with drilling off our coast lines then I believe we should as well–at least then we can hold the American companies responsible instead of trying to hold communist countries who could care less about how we feel about it or not responsible for any accidents that may happen. However, with that being said, I really don’t want to see an oil rigs off the coast of California anymore than anyone else does.
Posted by: my two cents | June 26, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Whoa! T an almost orginal thought! Even though its dumb. There is WAY more than traditional market forces at work here. Oh wait you can barley read. Why when demand has been falling then and productin fairly level has the price gone up? Someone is screwing the world right now.
Posted by: Joe | June 26, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Its ok though you tried.
Posted by: Joe | June 26, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Ok CA, I think it only fair that coastal states that don’t want to allow offshore drilling pay 3 or 4 x the amount per gallon that we in the Gulf of Mexico do. You have no problem using gas from our drilling, so pay for it or share in the reserves of the US and quit giving dollars to the “Kingdom”.
Texans should only have to pay $2.00 a gallon since we are willing to drill and refine the oil for everyone else who doesn’t want to harm the endangered birds in the trees that get struck by lightning and go up in flames! Tree huggers!
Posted by: Lex Luthor | June 26, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
And thats why Texas is a crappy place to vacation! Come to montana much better.
Posted by: Joe | June 26, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Why don’t republicans, first to mention money, EVER mention this costly war?
$531,623,199,451…
Posted by: jj | June 26, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
But Lex then you have to say people that drive the nice big SUV have to pay 5 bucks a gallon and the guy with the little toyota should only have to pay 2 bucks. If supply and demand rules anyway. If you use more than me your demand is higher so you should pay more.
But I thought it was if you use more you get a better price. T wanna help out?
Posted by: Joe | June 26, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
The high priced oil is here partly because of that little monkey in the White House who destroyed Iraq production and is threatening Iran all the year long. Clap, clap, clap.
Posted by: me | June 26, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
No California coastal drilling even if it might help the nation? So be it. Let Gov. S’negger and the other Californians remember that the next time they demand a national response to one of their regular natural catastrophes — fire, earthquake, mudslide, el nino, etc.
Posted by: Bill45 | June 26, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
no matter where they drill for oil the soonest we will see any of that oil hit the market is 4 years and we wont see any effect on supply or prices for about ten years. this will help nothing in the next 4 years as prices go up car makers will begin making alternatives and the use of oil will go way down world wide and we wouldnt have needed to wreck our natural beauty to get it. my grandma died in 1991 she was 103 at the time she told me how hard people fought going to gas from horses the people who fought it would stand to lose money from losing business from lose of horses. the republicans are the puppets of the big oil barons come on people we need to move on from oil and start moving into the future.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Drilling may make the price of oil go down. According to an analysis of the effect of drilling in the Artic National Wildlife Refuge, the price of gas will drop by a whole 2 cents per gallon. The gross savings is probably less than Exxon spent in legal fees figuring out how to screw Alaskan fishermen out of the jury verdict rendered against it. Talk about judicial activism. With yesterday’s opinion the oil companies will really be detered from ruining the CA coast . . . or maybe not.
Jared, how have you liked having your wallet pried open to fund an endless war? Well, at least we got cheaper oil as a consequence. . . or maybe not.
Posted by: steve | June 26, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
i say every american stop driving for a day everyone lets unite as americans and do something dems repubs blacks whites rich poor young old lets unite and fight this thing together remember it affects all of us!!!
Posted by: angie | June 26, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Don’t people realize that it takes years for new old fields to come into production? What we really need are the liberals’ “new energy sources” that will produce energy immediately – once they’ve told us what, exactly, those sources are.
Posted by: Buzz | June 26, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
John McFlipFlop he will say and do anything to get elected.
Posted by: Bo | June 26, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
T: Once again, someone who doesn’t understand supply and demand. OK… here goes…
Econ 101: Certain items — referred to as ‘elastic’ — do respond to the supply & demand curves as you would expect. The price of hot dogs goes up, the quantity demanded for hot dogs goes down, even though the quantity supplied at that price goes up. In other words… if the price goes up, suppliers will be willing to provide more, but consumers are willing to buy less AT THAT PRICE.
Other items — those that are ‘inelastic’ — have a more steady demand curve. Gasoline is one of these. In general, people don’t buy significantly less gas when the price goes up… they only need a certain amount. An average American who commutes the same distance today as he did twenty years ago is buying the same amount of gas now as then, even though the price is substantially higher. Regular supply & demand would show that the consumer would be buying substantially less gas at today’s prices, but it’s just not the case.
Sure, you may be cutting back on recreational driving… and driving a more fuel-efficient car… but that has minimal effect.
If gas were ‘elastic’… and supply versus demand affected the price… then those of us who are driving less and getting more MPGs would be paying less than twenty years ago. Not the case, is it?
Will more oil production drive down the price? No. The suppliers have a current equilibrium price (which translates into our current approx. $4/gallon). If the production levels were to climb, the suppliers will hold the price. Try to force them to lower the price…. or enforce a price ceiling… then they’ll just stop supplying. For better understanding, consult an Econ textbook for the proper graphics.
Posted by: Champ | June 26, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
another thing people dont realize is how many things that are made of plastic and chemicals now and guess what most chemicals and plastics are made of oil so if we keep on burn prehistoric oil in our gas guzzling cars we will use it all up and there goes plastic and most chemicals, and those items will be much harder to replace then the fuel for an automobile.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
angie is right though. If we as americans just quit for a day maybe two and didn’t let these speculators know about it I think you would see $60 barrel of oil.
Posted by: Joe | June 26, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
What Bush and his cronies in the oil industry fail to mention is that they already have access to tens of millions of acres for oil exploration THAT FOR YEARS THEY HAVE YET TO EXPLORE! They simply are trying to tie up these water rights while the Idiot Prince is still in office and Dubya is feathering his nest lucrative oil companies Board of Director positions when he out of office.
Posted by: Charles Almon | June 26, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Both things have to occur simultaneously. More fossil fuels from our own country and alternative energies being developed in parallel. You can’t do one and not the other. It is transitional. People will still be using older fuels while the new technologies are taking hold. Poorer citizens will not be able to afford the new technologies at first, until they are entrenched and produced en masse, leading to prices dropping and becoming affordable to all. This will take decades, and the need for fossil fuels will not decline for a very long time, while this process occurs. We must prepare for the future, both short-term and long-term, to have a comprehensive policy that protects us from dependency on other nations.
Posted by: Craig | June 26, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
I have no problem with limited offshore drilling for oil, but only under a Democratic controlled Congress and WH. If ExxonMobile had been drilling offshore under oilmen Bush & Cheney, gas prices today would still be high only ExxonMobil would be earning gazillions of dollars instead a of billions and with no environmental oversight.
Posted by: Tom in Alabama | June 26, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Maybe we should go with this state’s -rights pro-rata approach on more things. All of the blue states subsidize all of the red states with their federal tax dollars. Maybe we should stop. Why are we paying to fund people to whine about liberal spending, reject science and have more bible-thumping babies?
Posted by: steve | June 26, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
thanks joe but thats the promblem with this country everyone is too divided we just sit back and let them do this to us and then cry when it affects us now is the time to unite all like i said lets stop driving for a day or two thewhole country and see what happens but you know what that will never happen like i said we as americans are too divided
Posted by: angie | June 26, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Actually, we ought to be charging people, at the pump, according to the gas-mileage their car gets. Gas eating SUV owners were sucker enough to get sold such junk. They have raised the price for everyone. If you look at it, non truck and SUV owners pay more of a percentage of the national price while the truck and SUV owners are paying less per gallon – because of it. Robert
But that’s America, the freedom to be fat dummies your whole lives through.
Posted by: Robert Cole | June 26, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
angie – McCain has agreed that we need to take action on global warming for several years now. I am not a big McCain fan, but I will still defend him against smears.
Posted by: jock59801 | June 26, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Looks like Arnold is lining up California environmental bona fides for a run at the Senate in 2010. Challenge Boxer? Replace an appointed Diane?
Those polls can be handy in helping shape electable positions. Gotta move left, break with Bush, and start the campaign now.
Maria would love to get out of obscure, hot Sacratomato and back to the power-perks of Washington. Hyannis would be only two hours away.
Also, let’s hope that Tom Brokaw explores the strategy now being crafted by Arnold’s team on MTP this weekend. Is this essentially Arnolds public kickoff, Tom?
Posted by: gorgon '08 | June 26, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
these oil companies have many places they could drill they many acres of off shore prospects already they are just greedy and that is fact. even if they had the oil coming out of the ground right now those criminal buddies of king george would still find a reason to keep prices high come on people every thing the republicans have said in last 7 years have been lies. dont fall for it again it makes you look stupid.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Arnold is missing the point. The purpose of opening up additional domestic oil and gas resources is not to “lower the price of gasoline” but to lower our foreign dependence on oil and gas, and to keep the revenue paid for the oil in America, rather than going overseas to Opec, Venezula, Mexico, etc.
Posted by: Marty | June 26, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
How about drilling the millions of acres of land already leased by the oil companies FIRST. Oh yeah. That would be the right thing to do!
Posted by: dn | June 26, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Joe — you seem to assume that once we say yes to offshore drilling, instant gratification. There are things that need to happen to get off-shore drilling to produce more oil. 1) get rid of off shore ban. 2) find the oil. 3) manufacture the monster rigs and organize shipping. 4) get the oil that is accessible with today’s technology. Number’s 1 and 3 are not very likely to occur in the near future, so you mind as well dream about it for a couple years.
However, I agree with the statement about foreign companies drilling off-shore, however. Some other countries are all for getting as much oil as they can — it’s what they need to develop. Anyone over there’d be crazy to propose not drilling for oil.
Honestly i think the best way to deal with the oil crisis is keep doing what we’re doing — getting hurt by it. Companies are already swaying to fuel-efficient alternatives to earn more customers or cut their expenses. Of course, there’s a long way to go…oil is in /everything/. Like plastics, asphalt …not to mention carstrucksplanesjetstanks etc. But I’m sure even those industries are seeking ways to cut their own oil costs.
Posted by: hey joe | June 26, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
marty—–if we would put the money that we would spend drilling and building new refineries into alternatives we would not only be free of foriegn oil but free from oil (except for plastics and chemicals) coem on people the time came when the world said no more horses we need cars now we muct find a way to get rid of the car as we know it.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Haha, sorry — misread who posted the comment… I’m directing mine at ‘T’
Posted by: hey joe | June 26, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
and lets say we let them drill anywhere they want and build as many new refineries as they want. does anybody no what happens when somthing new comes out the price is very high. i would bet all that i own that as soon as that new oil hits market the price will go way up.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Gas prices will remain at this level for now on, get used to it, I am. If you think that oil drilling will bring them down, you’re fooling yourself. Arnold is right. No sense in risking our coast for a few years of oil. We need a federal energy plan focusing on alternative energy resources NOW.
Posted by: nuttin funny | June 26, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
it will cost trillions to do the oil drilling and refineing of those areas. who do you think will pay for that??? not the oil barons profits not off the oil companies bottom line. yes america either our taxes will pay for it or we will at the pump. i would much rather put my money into a new sorce of power.instead of the fuel of the past.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Imagine where we could be in 20 years if we tapped into our own resources, used those taxes to pay for a multitude of alternatives, and then started selling our oil to China and India by underbidding OPEC. It is reality and we have more than enough oil and technology to do it …
Posted by: James | June 26, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
How noble and unique of one politician to so cavalierly dismiss the ideas of another politician. He might be correct that all these “crazy” ideas may not soon reduce energy prices. But with oil cost projected at $200/bbl by the end of the year and gasoline costs projected at $14/gallon within 5 years, the argument soon will not be about “driving down” energy prices but about economical survival. Once the CA populace literally takes to the street demanding, ironically, lower costs, Arnold will happily accept the “dangers” of drilling his coastline wall-to-wall with oilrigs. But, unfortunately, it will then be too late – latge portions of the western world will by that time collapse. Anyone applied for immigration to an oil producing country yet?
P.S. all of you who think that the laws of supply-and-demand applies to run-away-speculation-politically-paralized-life-essential-monoloized-commodities are about to have a life changing economics lesson!
Posted by: soothsayer | June 26, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
McCain totally FLIP FLOPPED on this issue.
Just 19 days earlier from his flip flop, McCain said he was not for off shore drilling.
McCain has got to be the BIGGEST flip flopper around.
Posted by: Gertrude | June 26, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
soothsayer—— ok so you say in 5 years gas will be $14 a gallon, well even oil companies have said that if they drilled today we would see no oil for 4 years and no effect on supply for 6 to 10 years, so do you think that we americans will stand by or that auto makers will just keep on making gas burning cars ? no they will come up with new fuel sorce and we wont need that oil we wreck our wild lift areas to get.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
This article is horribly written. Did you hire mediocre high school sophomores as interns and put the to work writing copy?
Posted by: Molly Mae | June 26, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Only a idiot would think the drilling U.S. offshore oil would lower prices.
The prices now as nothing to do with supply and demand. It has to do with “greed”. “Greed is the selfish desire for or pursuit of money, wealth, power”
Posted by: Stephen | June 26, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
wow all my common sense and factual statements sure have shut up the republicans in here. he he he he.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Tom, the reason that alternative energy resources are such a hot topic right now is only because they are on the verge of being economically competitive with oil and gas, due to the spirling upwards of the price of oil. The higher the price of oil,the more competive the alternatives become, and the more money on R&D will flow into those alternatives, and the sooner the reliance upon oil and gas will diminish. I hope oil shoots to $500 a barrel, then fuel cells, nuclear, wind, solar, geothermal, solar… all these alternatives will expand exponentially and the upward spiral of oil prices will abruptly end, and the economics of the world will change. Only then. Keep the government out of it, or it will really get costly.
Posted by: Marty | June 26, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
marty—- there is alot of truth in what you said kudos. we need to put money into alternatives not on more big oil profits.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
marty —-bush and most republicans want the american tax payer to help big oil pay the bill to drill and build new refineries, and then the prices of gas will stay the same and we will have more national debt. i would much rather pay to come up with a replacement for oil then for big oil to get even more rich.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Hey Lex Luthor from Texas. I take it you have never been to California. If you had been you will see offshore oil rigs all over the place. In fact, it was one of these rigs that did start environmental revolution when a new rig with sub standard equipment in 1968 outside Santa Barbara blew and released a huge spill along the coast line. First Earth Day was next year. So spare this idea that California has no idea of what offshore oil is or does not have any.
The one point lacking in this article is fact that there are millions of acres available for drilling already that oil companies are not using.
Second point, is the Enron loophole which Californians felts first hand when Enron created bogus electricity shortages to raise prices here and caused over 30 blackouts. Well, now that loophole is used on oil speculation. No one knows how much of current prices are due to this unregulated speculation of oil futures. Most economists put it at 30%. Last farm bill was defeated by McCain and Bush because it contained a provision to close this loophole. McCain has opposed any legislation to stop it. No surprise since Phil Gramm who is on McCain’s economic advisory team got the loophole put in to legislation in the first place.
Posted by: Brian | June 26, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
To all of those people who say that drilling for oil will not lower prices then tell me what will. Solar Panels? That will really get your Netflix at your doorstep the next day. Wind, ahh, nothing better looking than mountains and fields full of millions of wind blades.
Posted by: James | June 26, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
If Obama is a god as most of his supporters seem to believe, then the god should be able to wave his magic wand and new green energy sources pop up everywhere and the cost would be dirt cheap. That is, if Obama was a god–he isn’t. He is a corrupt politican from Chicago who will say and do anything to get elected, even steal other candidates ideas about energy. McCains’ energy policy is much better.
Posted by: Mary | June 26, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
All he is saying is that he wants to protect his views from his oceanside homes. How about protecting our water supply California or our energy. Nope they dont care what happens so they pump and pump water to desert towns (palm springs) and cause hugh blackouts….but they dont help with anything
Posted by: jas | June 26, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
james——solar panels and wind blades dont polute the environment, and those sources are infinite the sun will always shine and the wind will always blow and if they stop it wont matter what we are doing we will be died. i live by a town here in minnesota were a local factory put up a whole huge bank of wind generators to supply all the power they need and they sell a good portion to electric company. and i think those wind generators look beautifull and 90% of my fellow neighbors do also.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
You hope oil gets to $500 per barrel? Wow, Obama will inherit the worst recession in half a century if that happens. Just think of the horror that would cause in the job market. If he’s in office, he’ll get blamed for it.
Posted by: T | June 26, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Hey, you guys, stop mak’in fun of me! I’m getting mad, honestly. The walking undead have right too you know. Wait a minute, what’re we talking about. “Honey, could you get me my alzheimers meds, I think forgot to take them!” Anyways you guys knock it off. I know, and you know, every good Republican, and person in my eyes, wants a drooling 88 IQ like Bush in the presidency. And I’m YouR Man! Oops, I think I poopied in my depends, gotta go.
Posted by: Johnny McCain | June 26, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
lol lol lol lol so funny and terrifyingly true.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
what is funny is i see all these shows about useing fryer oil in your diesel what they dont tell you is that in most states that is illegal because the tax you pay at the pump is for road use that meens that you have to pay a special tax to use fryer oil in diesel auto. and guess what party has blocked getting rid of that law?????? the republicans of course because they have been blocking any new power source idea for decades so if you republicans want to blame anybody blame the republicans for thsi oil fuel problem.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
wow there was alot of posting on this topic then nothing.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Arnold’s right. Drilling in ANWR or off our coasts aren’t going to generate any new oil for at least what ? 5 years?
It won’t cause any drop rated to perception either because the message is ‘we still plan to use oil’.
Recent Supreme Court decision highlights how long it took the victims of the Exxon Valdez spill to be reimbursed for their financial impact and guess what – they reduced the award so those impacted would be lucky to get $15,000 a piece. 8,000 of the people have died because this is now 20 years later.
So folks, think long and hard, if your state makes a living from your beaches. For those who lost their fishing livilihood in Price Edward Sound and 20 years later the fish populations haven’t returned or are struggling? Who wants to eat clams theys till spit out oil, eat fish with lesions?
Much less Florida beaches human variable?
Don’t buy a gas guzzling vehicle, drive the speed limit or a 5 miles under.
We could save a huge chunk if people just quit speeding on a regular basis.
Posted by: CitizenVoter | June 26, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
I often wonder what sort of armchair politicos waste their time expounding their idiotic opinions on these sites. probably the same people that have nothing better to do than call talk show hosts and voice their stupidity and ignorance to the listening audiences. If I ever happen to see a comment that actualy makes sense, I may fall off my chair.
Posted by: jim | June 26, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
grapemonk: Very noble of you, but you missed the point.
You are using less gas, but the price did not go down as a result.
THAT is why the Supply/Demand argument fails in this case.
Posted by: Champ | June 26, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Arnold should just join the Democratic party. As more centrists like him do so, we isolate the wacko world dominating warmonger neocon GOP more effectively.
Posted by: Eric Bard | June 26, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
The only reason the oil companies want to drill off shore, in the National Parks including ANWAR, is because of the PRICE it’s bringing, not because the feels sorry for Joe Blow American…. Oil goes on the WORLD market not the LOCAL market where it gets the highest price. People wake up! It’s like Bush telling Americans in a speech a few years ago, that if they drilled in ANWAR all would be left would be footprints. Sounded so romantic and responsible. Yeah RIGHT! Go to west Texas and take a look at all the footprints. It’s called JUNK! And a bunch of it.
Posted by: Texas LIl | June 26, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
man, you liberals will just never get it. i agree, he SHOULD join the democratic party. he’s weak. he offers no other soutions now does he? just like all the other finger pointing liberals. always a villain, and never offer any solutions. ironic how he gave this speach at a global warming summit too… if liberals and democrats only took the energy crisis as serious as they take the worlds ” indefinate meltdown”. then again, it IS california. i dont think its possible to have any common sense there.
Posted by: tim | June 26, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
There are now 2 republicans unwilling to prostitute themselves to Bush, the oil companies and the fringe-dwellers on the extreme right: Chuck Hagel and Arnold.
Posted by: Tom | June 26, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
texas lil…
and you forget: that “junk” runs the world. its funny how the people who will complain about the “junk” or a polar bear that might die, are the same ones who are complaing about high gas prices. WE NEED MORE OIL. its obvious we need to invest in alternative energy. i get it. and we need to keep on our politicians to do just that. but oil is an addiction. the world revolves around it. and i for one would rather have some “junk” up in anwar, or out in the oceans than pay waaaay too much for it. and from OUR ENEMIES none the less. whats so hard to undersatnd about this??
Posted by: tim | June 26, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Thanks ‘tim’ for being who you are… uneducated, not able to think for yourself, parroting the words of the dittoheads and Bill O’Really-Out-There. It’s straight-ticket republicans like you that make the rest of us look even smarter.
Posted by: Champ | June 26, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
‘tim’… exactly who are the ENEMIES that are selling oil to the US? Don’t forget, it’s your buddy Georgie who walks holding hands with the Sauds.
Posted by: Champ | June 26, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
–tom– interesting reading. I invite you to check out the assorted essays on http://www.gregpalast.com.
Posted by: Champ | June 26, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
i wish more people would go read zapata corp at wikipedia and knwo why bush is for big oil.
Posted by: tom | June 26, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
those who insist on drilling are too short-sighted. increased domestic supply may lower our dependence on foreign oil, but it will most definitely increase consumption as well and counter the efforts of green/renewable energy promotion. you don’t tell a poor drug addict to take methadone while trying to secure a cheap dealer.
Posted by: Royce | June 26, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
I remember being horrified when CA elected good old Aronld. However,after find out that he refused to be payed by the state, the refusal to even use the governors mansion. Then to hear him speak on our eroding infastructor, energy crisis etc Then to top it off he has the guts to speak out against his own party. Maybe in the end, it isn’t so sad we elect popular actors into office. Go Arnold!
Posted by: MikeinVT | June 26, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
McCain ranked 5th from the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy and was a notable screw-up. Perhaps he should have paid more attention in class and/or partied less. Once aloft, he was quickly shot down. And while he gave an excellent accounting of himself in the Hanoi Hilton, this hardly makes him an ‘authority’ on war … or anything. Indeed, his financial acumen propelled him into the ranks of “The Keating Five”, where the collapse of the US Savings and Loan System quickly followed on another wave of rabid financial speculation very similar to the former Enron/energy crisis, or today’s oil “Energy Crisis”. Somehow, McCain remained unscathed, just slightly tarred, while others went to prison for their financial mismanagement (Keating). So basically, when McCain speaks, be it on war, economy, energy, influence peddling, or the beer industry, I really couldn’t care less. In fact, I use his “Bush ‘thoughts’ “(an oxymoron) as a negative barometer. I applaud Ahh-nold for consistently thinking and doing the right thing. Obviously, he talks to Warren Buffet and of course, Mah-ri-ah. Either has far more on the ball then McSame.
Posted by: the Professor | June 26, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
So then what will lower the prices Arnold. It must be great to be a king with no answers.
Posted by: jsmith | June 26, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Oh, oh good heavens I do surely hate global warming.
Posted by: jlshogren | June 26, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Arnold the IDIOT with NO prior political experience has burdened California with about $15-20 billion in debt and wants to raise taxes. I did not vote for this IDIOT and now we Californians are reaping what we sowed.
It would make sense to start offshore drilling and make some money to pay off the debt but NOOOO that makes too much sense for Arnold the socialist democrats that control the state legislature.
When are people going to realize that capitalism made this state and nation wealthy and its the cure.
Please visit http://www.mises.org and educate yourselves on free market principles.
Posted by: Angry Californian | June 26, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
To all the Pinheads with their
studying to be stupid mentality,
the solution is
DRILL, DRILL. DRILL!!
Posted by: Jeanne | June 26, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
Arnolds political motto: “If it bleeds, we can kill it.”
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | June 27, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Arnold is a fool. Of course drilling won’t have an immediate effect on oil prices. That has nothing to do with whether we should drill or not. The world has proved drilling is safe. We need the oil. Should we wait another 10 years to get started? Arnold…shut up. Drill now.
Posted by: roger king | June 27, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
McCain is a fool!
Posted by: Stephen | June 27, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
As a Californian, I can say that the government of this state has zero plans for how to deal with the crisis. I wrote the dear Governor and got a completely nonsensical letter back from his arrogant staff. It becomes clear to me that the politicians are living in a fool’s paradise and are completely disconnected from reality.
It becomes clear to me that the political community has become the epitome of Animal Farm. They don’t have to live with the outcome of their decisions. We taxpayers do.
They seem to be the standard bearers against the economy. I really hate to see Arnold doing the bidding of the Democrats, but so it is.
Let’s give it two more months with the economy in full meltdown and see where the Dems and their ilk are when they force people to give up work, food, medicine and comforts to see their dream of us returning to 1850 come to fruition.
It will be interesting to see the layoffs begin to hit the Democratic communities and to see them waver over the desire to live the good Green life over merely getting to work for less than $100.00 and paying $50 for a sandwich.
I have a message for the stupid Democrats: Stop with the tax hikes, stop with the social experiments and for goodness sake DRILL!
Posted by: Jon Almada | June 27, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
Sold my ML 500 to a guy in CA. Must be a movie star! As far as Montana, already got a place in Big Sky.
Posted by: Lex Luthor | June 27, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
Start drilling at home where we have more oil than we’ll ever need and tell the 3rd world goodbye! And all of the movie stars??? that think they are gods should move to Venezula or the Kingdom! Screw you actor society and your Bentley’s! What’s that, you can afford gas at any price so screw me??
Posted by: Lex Luthor | June 27, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Doesn’t anybody remember the 04 election? The gas prices went up & then about 6 weeks before the election the prices started dropping. The same thing is happening this year. Just watch, in October the Repubs will come up with a mircle plan to save our souls. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen them do this. Creat a problem & then fix it during an election year……
Posted by: JoeNTx | June 27, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
Arnold is the coolest Republican out there.
I’m a die hard California Dem and I will vote for him.
Posted by: truth serum | June 27, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am
You have to admire Arnold for sticking to his belief as to what is best for his state, not for his party’s interests
He seems to be doing a good job as Gov for a guy that came from Hollywood, kind of like Reagan.
Why can’t areas like California and Florida take advantage of the wind power and build a bunch of windmills instead of drilling platforms. They would be cleaner and nicer to look at. There has to be lots of power out there.
Posted by: Ralph | June 27, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
Only problem ,Ahnold is; 1: energy prices are high, right now, right at this moment causing everything we buy to be high 2; we do not have alternative fuels available to us NOW and 3; seeing California as a state with the most foreclosures, the highest energy cost and jobs leaving the state at a rapid rate should make you understand that trying to please everyone isn’t working. Stop being a girly man and ditch the Kennedy politics.
Posted by: dav_0107 | June 27, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
Arnold and Michael Bloomberg were interviewed by Charlie Rose on his show a few months ago. I am kind of ashamed to admit how suprised I was when I found myself agreeing with most of what was said. I remember the Arnold who campaigned for Bush, Jr. but both men made a lot of good points. You can find Rose’s shows for free online.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | June 27, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am
You know when the generation 100yrs. from now looks at our situation they will laugh as they get into their all hydrogen/electric power cars. We are dinosaurs of the modern age. We will not adapt. We will stay the course of oilstagnation. And people wonder why Mars is lifeless. LOL
Posted by: Tone | June 27, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
It’s true that lifting the drilling bans won’t fix the present gas price situation and probably won’t make any appreciable difference for 10 years or more. But if the bans had been lifted 10 years ago, who can say what the situation today would be? And if they aren’t not lifted now, who can say that things won’t be much worse in 10 years?
Posted by: Publius | June 27, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
You yoyo” Start drilling now . The more supply you have the less it will cost.
Democrats [unions] employment would grow enormously if we started drilling even in state parks where we know oil is aplenty.Swartzkennedy should be recalled because he is a liberal democrat so cease calling him a republican.build more refineries!
Posted by: william belcher | June 27, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
We need to take the money that we would spend on oil production and build alternative energy where ever we can, wind mills, solar, etc. In 10 years maybe we could eliminate the need for 30% of oil. Make car manufacturers get their cars to get the milage that’s on the sticker, that’s 20%. Mono rails built on highway right of ways. There is plenty to spend money on wisely instead of drilling..
Posted by: Ralph | June 27, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Is Ahnold too stupid to realize that this is for the future. Oh yeah, I forgot that he’s a RINO, a Democrat in Republican’s clothing. Everytime he open his mouth he proves how out of touch left coast liberals are with mainstream America. Glad I left LA because California is full of selfish, ignorant, mentally ill liberals.
Posted by: Ozark_Sunshine | June 27, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
For people who think drilling in the US will help – some numbers.
The economies of India and China are developing at breakneck speeds growing a middle class much like the US.
Their total populations are approaching 3 billion people… the US has a tad of 3 million and we are currently consuming 11 percent of the oil output of the world.
Now think long and hard on where the price of oil is going.
This will help all of us understand why other countries are furiously developing alternatives, promoting mass transportation, etc.
Posted by: CitizenVoter | June 27, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Good for Arnold, not touting the party line. And to those who think we should drill off-shore now, as a way to lower prices 5 years from now, think hard about the logic. What we should be doing now is sinking every spare dollar into true renewables, like solar, wind and tidal power and get our best engineers to work on more efficient ways to use energy. And we should change the mpg drastically higher for all vehicles. Look at many European countries who have been doing this for years, they have greatly reduced their dependence on foreign oil. We can’t drill our way out of this. We have to invest our way out.
Posted by: Lydia | June 27, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Funny how when McCain decides to change his mind the word used is “reverse” but when Obama changes his mind “flip-flop” is used.
Posted by: pwright78 | June 27, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Unless you’re rich, a corporation or insane–I have no idea why anyone would vote for McCain the idiot. And what the heck is on the side of cheek.
Posted by: me | June 27, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Go with the wind, Arnold, again.
Posted by: Pete | June 27, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
I just put in my order for the new windmill car with the solar panels on the sides. My wife got the electric car that plugs into the grid that no longer has any electricity.
I support the snap your fingers wind farms that are going up and only take a couple of days to build all the materials. Our new nuke plant is moving ahead of the long list of others planned world wide by the only manufacturer in the world.
We decided to stop eating since we are burning the food for the kids alchohol car. Good way to lose some weight. I told the boss I would not be in the next time it storms or we don’t have any wind.
Our country is going insane and we are headed for a depression, Obama socialism, mortgaging our country with debt to china and the arabs and they really love us. By the way, Obamasocialism may let you keep a few cents from your pay check.
I think I am getting a horse, but wait, they expel methane.
Posted by: liberty now | June 27, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Of course, the governator is correct. Alternative fuel development and exploring and drilling for more oil won’t bring down the price of gasoline anytime soon. What his excellency, the obfuscator, didn’t mention was that had politicians started exploring and drilling for oil in the continental U.S. and had oil companies been permitted to increase capacity by building more refiners 30 YEARS AGO, we’d be looking at $1.25/gallon gasoline NOW.
30 years from now, when gasoline costs $16/gallon Arnold will still be arguing against increasing our oil supply through increased domestic production with the same argument…it won’t bring down prices any time soon!
What a macaroon!
Posted by: Ed D | June 27, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
For those of you here who blame the increasing price of oil on the big, bad, greedy U.S. oil companies, I would remind you that the price of a barrel of oil is not set by U.S. oil companies; it is set by the countries which produce the oil and driven by factors such as supply and demand and speculators in the market.
Posted by: Ed D | June 27, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
“I have to agree, drilling is not the answer, finding new energy sources is.”
Yeah. like the sources that offshore drilling will provide. Damn people, even you greenies use electricity and drive cars. We haven’t built a new refinery in many years. The gov’t is making TONS of money off of gas taxes. Onerous regulation screws everyone over. Anyone know the profit margin of “Big Oil”? It’s 9%. Know Google’s? 24%. I don’t hear anyone calling for a windfall tax on them. Learn the facts people. We live a society that currently depends on oil. Sure, develop alternative energy sources and perfect them for mass production but in the meantime, drill for the darn oil we know is there. What a bunch of NIMBY’s
Posted by: KC | June 28, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Arnold is missing the point. The purpose of opening up additional domestic oil and gas resources is not to “lower the price of gasoline” but to lower our foreign dependence on oil and gas, and to keep the revenue paid for the oil in America, rather than going overseas to Opec, Venezula, Mexico, etc.
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What about the Alaskan pipeline being used to
supply Japan. Is the revenue on our sheets or
Exxons.
Posted by: spacerook1 | June 28, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
It is reality and we have more than enough oil and technology to do it …
Posted by: James
better yet, a large quantity of wheat and other
basic food necessities come from us. For countries
like Iran, increase these prices 100 fold.
Posted by: spacerook1 | June 28, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Tell them how it is Arnold ! The politicians in this country all have hindsight. We desperately need leaders that can look to the future and not promote obsolete technology.
Posted by: monika | June 28, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
even if change is not immediate like in one year, just knowing a change is coming in a couple years, and working towards it in real life will make things change. california has some good environmental and consumer protection laws, but sometimes it is also going overboard and they bring in overwhelming government interference when they (like Schwarzeneggar) say they want the government out of things. we aren’t all millionaires
Posted by: guest | June 29, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
The problem with moving to alternative energy sources is that they do not have the capacity to replace fossil fuels at this time. There will be a significant time period for industry, fleet of vehicles, etc to move to alternative sources. This very day, almost all cars sold take gasoline. Developing the infrastructure to allow for alternative energy takes time. Just changing automaker assembly lines can take years.
If a candidate can offer a realistic timetable for transitioning the entire energy infrastructure of this country from oil to other sources, that would be a huge first step. I’d say, its about 20 years MINIMUM. So, we will have need of oil for those 20 years. You can bet that in 10 years international oil will be even more scarce than it is now. Thus, drilling now makes sense. What will we be saying in 8 years about why we didn’t act now that alarm bells are going off?
All Americans want cheap, clean energy. I will be delighted to use an alternative to fossil fuels. However, the entire industrial base of this country – generators, vehicles, machinery, down to lawn mowers – is based on fossil fuels. A 20 year time frame for transition is extremely ambitious but might be achievable. In the meantime, we need to secure domestic oil. That means drilling NOW.
Posted by: Cass | June 30, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Quote:
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Their total populations are approaching 3 billion people… the US has a tad of 3 million and we are currently consuming 11 percent of the oil output of the world.
Posted by: CitizenVoter | Jun 27, 2008 1:49:33 PM
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Hi Citizen, just pointing out that the US has just over 300 million, not 3 million. I know it was just a typo, and it doesn’t dilute your point. Our country has a highly developed, hydrocarbon based infrastructure.
Those countries are smart to look to alternative fuels because their underlying infrastructure is not developed as much. Why would they invest in a big fossil fuel infrastructure when that is seen as a dead end? Our trouble is that we are not building a brand new infrastructure, we already have a well-established hydrocarbon-based infrastructure. America now has to transition in such a way that we do not eviscerate ourselves.
In some ways I am happy that this is occurring now, where there is still quite a lot of hydrocarbon reserve in the world. For 10 years I have felt that the greatest problem to solve and threat to civilization in the 21st century will be energy, and running out of it when we are unprepared. I am glad to see public understanding of the importance of energy take hold. On the flip side, I am regretful that this importance could not be understood without causing suffering as we are now seeing with high gas prices.
Posted by: Cass | June 30, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
Sounds like China will soon be drilling off the coast of Florida. Why should we not drill off shore. Any amount of oil we can produce is oil we don’t buy from another country. I noticed in voting that the majority of Americans are in favor of drilling
Posted by: George | July 6, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Sounds like China will soon be drilling off the coast of Florida. Why should we not drill off shore. Any amount of oil we can produce is oil we don’t buy from another country. I noticed in voting that the majority of Americans are in favor of drilling
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