Sen. Feinstein Speaks Out in Favor of ‘Dream Ticket’

I just wish Feinstein, Pelosi, Dean and Reid would have spoken out about the hatred and misogony while it was happening. Maybe they could have quit calling for Hillary to drop out, instead of playing favorites. NOW she mentions all this stuff! If the Dems would have just left the race alone, to play out as it would, perhaps the outcome would have been different.
That said, bring on the dream ticket! Still think it should be the other way around but…

I would NOT vote for him if she is on the ticket,,,,,,To much baggage and to self centerwed would try to take over and then BANG guess who is sitting in the oval office stranger things have happaned…..

Hillary Clinton doesn’t owe Obama or the Democratic party anything. As a matter of fact, she owes it to herself to take five months off and let them hang themselves for nominating (again) another unelectable, left-wing elitist.
As for the Dream Ticket, why should Hillary hitch herself to a sinking ship? It’s clear swingcrats, Reagan Democrats, and moderate women have no intention of voting for the DNC’s left-wing version of Bush and his “You forgot Idaho” strategy. McCain is going to wipe the floor with him Mondale style. Hillary should want no part of that.

La Chatte.
I feel the same way as a man but i
will vote for McCain strait ticket
to punish the whole democratic
establishement.
They MUST be punished in november….

La Chatte,
An unsolicited advice for you just because you said you have no candidate now. You will always have a candidate (perhaps not always the best one) if you support a candidate based on your principles of life. Please don’t be angry with Senator Clinton. She is a rational person that knows when fighting is warranted and when fighting can be destructive.

It would be a mistake for Hillary to accept the VP position under Obama. She has class, experience and everything he doesn’t have. Obama will lose big time and I would not want to have any association with his losing ticket.

Senator Feinstein,
Why didn’t you speakup sooner about the sexism?
One more reason I am leaving the democratic party. Standing up against sexism is not part of their agenda.
No to “dream ticket”.

Sen Feinstein is an embarrassment to truth – as she often is.
(She’s often full of BS and so we Californians will have to vote her OUT! at the next senator elections… )
And dream ticket is a marketing slogan that if came true would doom any hope for honest change.
Tom

Many polls have claimed that if the primaries were held today Hillary would lose a significant amount of the votes she won early on in CA, NY, etc…
She acts like she ‘owns’ these voters forever!
Well sorry Hillary, not after your bad behavior…
T

The dream ticket sounds like a nightmare to me.
What really does Hillary bring to Obama.
Not Arkansa, Not New York, not Illinois mnot certainly not those so called swing states she won in the primary because many of those people that put her over the top in those states didnt vote for her they were voting against Obama.
If they are going to vote for him to be president he will have to convince them. lol. to leave their 1900′s thinking behind.

All the media talking today about they had no part in bringing down Hillary lies,lies,lies,

Hillary would be a better president than Obama. No doubt about it. She would have been the nominee if Obama had not gotten that free ride from the MSM, played the race card to promote division, had the corrupt power of the DNC behind him and cheated by buying Super Delegates.
By the way, he has not officially won the nom – that won’t happen until August.
Obama does not deserve my respect or any respect because of the tactics he used to win. But then again, if he hadn’t used those tactics (with the complicity of the MSM and the DNC) he wouldn’t have *won. Can you say cheat? Better yet, can you say President McCain????
H*ll NO, The Fake Nominee Won’t!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter

Let him pick another woman and see what happens it would be a really bad move.

Obama stole his candidacy just as he stole it when he got elected as senator.
It is clear that there are nefarious players behind the scenes for Obama. How is it he could have so many criminal and fanatical connections and still be in the running? I am convinced that those of the Middle East who wish to destroy this nation have found a way to do it from the inside. We as Americans all know the power of money and who has more of it than those of the Middle East. Somehow they have jerry rigged the media to make Obama a Teflon Obama and now they are playing with the economy such as raising the gas prices so as to put the republican administration in a bad light. It is the Trojan horse again and most Americans seem too stupid to recognize it.

OBAMA made a statement at the AIPAC conference in Washington last Wednesday that he now has labeled the “Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization”. ANOTHER FLIP FLOP. Remember the debates where he stated that Clinton had overblown the Iranian nuke threat and he criticized her vote to brand Iran’s Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization. He called it “saber-rattling”. The whole world heard both statements by this youngster.

And please, lets ot forget Hillary was the medias darling until she started losing.
And for past 3 months of this campaign Obama had anything but bad coverage. Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Bitter-gate, Pastor Plieger, Michelle Proud comments…
With all of Obama’s recent mishaps Clinton was not able to close the deal in TX, OH, PA, IN, NC, KY, OR, WV, MO, SD. Don’t blame the media. Obama is the better candidate.

The way Obama could of started mending fences with the Democrats was to be at the speech Hillary gave conceding the race. Its not like the WHOLE country knew she was going to concedeon saturday except Obama.
Insted the devisiveness of Obama and his wife shown thru again playing GOLF on that day.

I wouldn’t waste my time with Obama if I were Hillary. McCain is a true man who will give Hillary a great position in his administration. Unlike Obama, McCain has true respect for Hillary and is friends with her. I would much rather be in McCain’s cabinet than Obama’s. Obama has/will destroy the Democrat Party and will take Hillary down with him if she signs on to his ticket.

They backed him because of the money he could bring in look to the windy city and the Kennedy’s and the legacy 40 years to the night I have a dream and MO is no Jackie and I say the H–l with the dems.Oh and Obama nor Clinton made the women as mad as we are our party did and the media. things will freez over befor I vote for Obama

Debbie wrote: “…who will give Hillary a great position in his administration.”
I agree with your sentiments, Debbie, but Hillary doesn’t need a great position in an administration. She’s a Senator from NY. Anything in an administration is a step down.
She’d take the VP if it helps the Dems but that’s a step down too.
Hillary ’08 (my sentiments, anyway)

Isn’t it GREAT to see an average American really make it big. Obama was raised by his single-mother with the help of his grandparents. He worked Hard, got a good education, and turned down large sums of money to go to work for the average American. What a great story. He raised his large sums of money for his campaign, not thru big corporate donors like many others, but thru average Americans giving $10 or $20 at a time. I suspect he is going to go down in history as one of the great presidents of all time. Obama will be Great in 2008!!!

I totally agree with Sen. Feinstein, and if Obama chooses a woman other than Hillary just to try and appease her constituents, it won’t work. Why choose someone like Sebelius or the Arizona governor who have little more experience than Obama in national affairs, when he could choose Clinton who has proven she is certainly qualified to serve as President if necessary. This would just serve to irritate her supporters, not have them support him. This is his problem with most he could choose, they have done nothing but jump on his bandwagon, and have not earned the spot as she has.
I don’t even know that I could vote for him if she IS on the ticket, but I definitely won’t if he doesn’t choose her. As far as those who chastise us for not supporting him after she was forced to withdraw, she did what she had to do, the rest of will do what our conscience tells us we have to do. Many of you certainly weren’t worried about us a few months ago, but now there seems to be some concern. However, bridges have been burnt. Those saying we are hurting the party need to do a little retrospective about how Obama’s campaign and his supporters alienated her supporters by calling them “uneducated, low class, has beens, old women” and too many more nasty names to even mention. I will never, ever forget how the press treated her, nor the double standards tolerated in this campaign. If the campaign represents Obama’s positive change by his supporters, no thanks.

HILLARY SHOULD NOW BUILD HER SUPPORT BASE AND FORGET OBAMA…
I AM A DIRE HILLARY SUPPORTER AND I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANY TICKET WITH OBAMA ON IT..
HILLARY IS RUNNING A RISK OF BEING HELD FOR ANY ERRORS OBAMA MAKES AND IF HE WERE TO LOSE OR WIN, THE MEDIA WILL BALME THE CLINTONS.
CHILL THE VP DEBATE.
GIVE IT UP.
HILLARY SAYS SHE WANTS NONE OF IT.
NO VP TALK…
PARTY UNITY IS A FARCE… DONT EXIST.
TJ, THE CLINTONITE STILL, SAYING THE SUPERDELEGATES “SELECTED” OBAMA AND THE PEOPEL “ELECTED” HILLARY, THE POPULAR VOTE WINNER.

REV WRIOGHT IS OBAMA’S VP
OBAMA WILL NEVER RUN FAST ENOUGH TO ESCAPE JEREMAIH WRIGHT
SO HE MIGHT AS WELL PUT WRIGHT ON THE TICKET
GOOD LUCK!!!!!!
ILL BE HAPPY AS LONG AS HILLARY IS NOT PART OF THE CHARADE.
TJ, STILL A CLINTONITE AND WAITNG FOR 2012..

They backed him because of the money he could bring in look to the windy city and the Kennedy’s and the legacy 40 years to the night I have a dream and MO is no Jackie and I say the H–l with the Dem’s and Obama nor Clinton made the women as mad as we are our party did and the media. things will freeze over before I vote for Obama
Posted by: Bishop | Jun 8, 2008 1:18:00 PM
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The SD all have sore twisted arms!
I am with you Bishop.
As far as I’m concerned HELL HAS FROZEN OVER!

As much as I think Hillary is deserving of the V.P. slot, having run such a close and questionable “second,” the more I think about it, the more I don’t feel it would be in her best interests to do so.
She would subsequently be blamed for any failures of Obama’s, and be tarnished from any scandal that erupts while he is either campaigning to be President, or after he becomes President.
Given the nature and number of scandals that have erupted during the past three months concerning Obama, it is only inevitable, in the case of someone who the media, for some reason, decided NOT to delve into their past, that more will come out in the future.
Hillary should take a long vacation, just make appearances on behalf of Obama when asked, and NOT opt for the V.P. slot.
She can do much better, and if she manages to stay away from him and the dribble down effect of his many problems, I think she will be unbeatable in 2012.

Vanessa,
“You can’t pick Sebelius because that would be personally disrespecting Hillary.”
I do not see how this disrespects Hillary at all. Sebelius is a woman, sure. But other than that, she has nothing else in common with Hillary Clinton. Please explain.
Obama 08!

Successful in the early races, and last place in the one that really matters…
Posted by: Lee | Jun 8, 2008 1:50:06 PM
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LEE! Priceless! for everything else the is…………….

@Whatever You (Don’t) Say … but we didn’t expect the DNC to do what they did after allowing waivers for the other states who moved up their primaries. The DNC is not suppose to stiff the party members. Your post cracked me up too!How ’bout that John McCain? Heyyyyyyyy!
H*ll NO, The Fake Nominee Won’t!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter

“Feinstein: Mind your own Business!
“The so-called dream ticket would be a
nightmare for Obama!
Choosing Hillary would prove he is weak and not his own man!
It would also allow Bill to Hog the
spotlight and take away from Obama’s
message and agenda!”
You are right – Obama does not sound like much of a man.
H*ll NO, The Fake Nominee Won’t!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter

Doesn’t matter if Hillary is picked as VP or not. It does not change the fact that Obama does not have the experience in anything that would qualify him to be president. I am not even talking about his shady dealings and shady associates. Just experience alone. He is not ready. This is why we will not vote for him, with or without Hillary. The office of President is not a training ground. First, you at LEAST need to know how many states you are president over. Then you will qualify for a third grade geography test anyway.
No Carter II!
McCain 08! Experience and knowledge to lead the country.

robert ill debate you
first off how does he have the WORST record possible?
mccains record is 95% votes for bush policies.
thats not a leader we can believe in
he voted against the GI Bill because it gave them too much money and schooling
he says he wants to seek out to help the environment, but doesnt show up to vote for an environment bill
his environment policy is to start drilling off of every major coast line
he wants to save the everglades, but has voted against two bills that would have helped rebuild the everglades
he says he supported every effort to help katrina and investigate the levys
too bad he voted against those measures not once, not twice, not even three times, but FIVE
FIVE TIMES
not to mention he voted for the war, he obviously thought the intelligence was convincing enough to warrant war, even though we KNOW FOR FACT the bush administration had no such facts and that they indeed lied or blatantly falsified info
ill tell you what, obama had the guts and teh gall to actually say, HEY this isnt right, there is not enough proof here.
So tell me again about mccains experience and leadership qualities

Enough already from Senator Clinton and other Democratic Leadership Council members such as Senator Feinstein (who, to her discredit, also voted for the Iraq war resolution). Please get out of the way and let the 2 candidates run for the Presidency. If Senator Clinton’s supporters will not vote for Senator Obama, then so be it. For me, now is the time to look to the future with a “can do” attitude, and make sure that a Democrat is elected to the White House. After all, the real nightmare is a Supreme Court with 2 more Roberts/Alito clones, a promise that Senator McCain will certainly deliver on if elected.

Vanessa,
Your commitment looks like it blows in the wind. Feinstein is not a Clinton surrogate. Feinstein comes from Californis, where there is over 10 per cent of the electorate. Feinstein is a peacmaker and a uniter. It sounds like you know nothing about her so you are blowing hot air.
Right, let’s pick Webb so that the Democratic Party will continue to do its part to ensure that there are always two men running the country. I suppose it remains to be seen what McCain does but the Republican Party has not broken its perfect record of putting up two white guys. Either you guy for white guy vote or you don’t. If you want white working class women then Hillary is the obvious choice.
Makes no difference to me, I can’t support Obama as President because I don’t see him as qualified. I also don’t see him qualified as Vice President either.
I’m just waiting for the vetting to be completed so people understand who the real Obama is.
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Based on what was said during the primaries, I don’t think this can work. She eventually would have to resign as VP based on what I have seen.
They are similar in philosophies but markedly different personalities. I can’t see how she would be satisfied without dilluting his authority.
Her being on the ticket really dillutes the “change”–change in philosphy that Obama was talking about. She will ensure enough old cronies get in to make this a same old, same old Presidency.

Willie:
I’d vote for Colin Powell as president . He has some time under his belt, some experience, he has put in the years to qualify for a chance to be president.

No matter who Obama puts on the ticket the people of FL, PA, OH and KY will go with their comfort zone. Obama’s nefarious friends will do him in.

Diane Feinstein said:
“She got treated poorly … I think, to a great extent, by [the] press, yes, I think she did. ……
“I think that played a role in developing this strength among women that saw this kind of thing for her candidacy.”
So if this anger is with the press, how did Hillary scapegoat and blame Obama? This appears to be a continuation of a 1970′s fight.

Obama would be a fool to pick Clinton as his VP. Why in the world would he want to weaken his position by picking his OPPONENT as his VP? She continually harped on Obama during the race, and showed absolutely no respect. Furthermore, she’s $30 MILLION in debt and ran a terrible campaign. Obama can, and should, do much better for a VP choice.

A word of respect for my Senator Dianne Feinstein…It was Dianne that constantly fielded messages from Hillary supporters who felt that Clinton was being shoved out of the race. It was Senator Feinsteinn who kept all those worthless wannabes on the DNC committee from throwing Hillary out long before they did. Speaking of that bunch, now Donna Brazile says they hope to “fully restore” Michigan and Florida at the convention. While I want my friends in FL and MI to have their full say, where was talk of “full restoration” when the DNC made the decision that it did on 5/31 and more or less decided the race for us. However, you can’t then just count delegates; you must count all those votes too. That means for the history books, Clinton von the popular vote, and she won it like no other candidate in history. Go Hill!

DemsUnited, here’s what you need to know. No longer will a man tell us as a voting bloc who we are or what we ought to do, or if we do this or that, that we are what your mother thinks we are. Let’s talk about power, friend. The fact that God gave the job to us to give life (and renew life) tells you where we are on the only pecking order that matters. This is a new day. Women are not going to keep on making 76 cents to a man’s dollar. We are not going to be told who to vote for. We know what we need for our own lives. God bless Hillary for saying yesterday “There are no acceptable limits and no acceptable prejudices in the 21st century.” If you are racist, it is unacceptable. If you are sexist, put yourself in that same category.

There’s still a long way to go before the general elections. Until then anything can happen..

Sharon,
Obama is the closest thing to Hillary right now. If you believed in anything Hillary was striving to achieve in this campaign, you would vote for Obama.
Remember, Keep the family fighting in-House, stand united against family enemies. Maybe someone should tell that to that stupid Bush Person currently sitting in the White House.

Senator Feinstein’s creative math isn’t very Democratic. She’s not counting voters in caucus states, or does she think their votes don’t count? And she’s also fuzzy on Rendell’s opinions. Feinstein:”All I can say is I agree with [Pennsylvania Gov.] Ed Rendell, that if you really want a winning ticket, this is it.” To the contrary, Ms. Feinstein, Governor Rendell shot down this very idea in an interview on June 4 with NY1 News:”You don’t bargain with the Presidential nominee. The rule for the vice president is make sure you never upstage the president. It’s rule one. You know, Hillary Clinton in some ways couldn’t help but upstage, even if she was trying not to…The Obama campaign would have to make strict rules, you know, about what President [Bill] Clinton could and could not do during the campaign”

To Clinton supporters: Clinton as VP nominee would do her more harm than good. She should aim for one of the cabinet positions. As VP Obama would put her in a locked room with armed guards and Obama’s wife would be right there with a baseball bat in case she got out.

DemsUnited,
Your words ring hollow, not because of Obama himself, but because of the six months of insults which the Obama supporters hurled at anyone supporting Hillary Clinton. Turns out half of the Democratic voters were in the camp and now your team has nothing to offer for peace. Good luck with the appeasing and coaxing.
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Obama, the Architect of BitterGate.
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Don’t start praising Clinton after you all forced her to “suspend”.

am a lifelong 3rd generation Dem.The Clinton campaign violated the principles, particularly anti racism that believe are central to the party.
The party itself at least in the NY metro area was almost fascist in shutting down any person or activity in support of any other candidate well before the primary.
I concede that as an orthodox Dem I have long had reservations about the Clintons w/ their anti labor ties. As an active feminist for over 30 Y I knew that on most of our issues HRC has been AWOL most of the time.
At the least I would have hoped the party leaders would have told Clinton to follow Gergen’s call to make a statement that she did not want the votes of people who were voting for her on race. They didn’t.
The R’s are worried about keeping their ideological base & recruiting the Reagan Dems. Maybe we need to worry about keeping the Kennedy Dems & recruiting the Bloomberg Republicans.

DemsUnited
Obama offers nothing but hope and speeches.
McCain/Hillary both have government and life experiences so they will be able to deal with issues using common sense. McCain has also has military experience as a plus.
Hillary has Bill which is a plus to me. We had one of the best economies under Bill.
There are tons of other reasons, but these are just a few. Experience means everything in an uncertain world. I was a top-level manager at 23 at a Fortune 500 country. I am now 46 and know how important having grown up helping run a family business helped me at a manager. Without it, I would have failed.

Debbie,
All you have done was tell me why Hillary and McCain is better than Obama. you answered part of my question but not my whole question. Why is Hillary better than McCain?
All you have cited was their lifetime of experience. Well, if experience is what you were looking for, then McCain should easily trump Hillary. He has been a public servant for much longer than Hillary Clinton has (I would remind you that Bill is not running. Hillary should not need her husband make her look good). Why not Chris Dodd or Joe Biden? Both were democrats running for office with much more experience than CLinton. Biden definately has the Foreign Policy credentials.
Obama moved to Chicago after getting a degree from Harvard (Where he was the first Black to serve as President of the Harvard Law Review—NO EASY TASK).
WIth all of those credentials, he chose to move to the SOuth Side of Chicago, to help the black community. He became a community organizer, rather than take a job with a Fortune 500 company. He was elected to public Office in 1996, taking office in 1997. He therefore has more public servant experience than Hillary Clinton.
One more thing: Abraham Lincoln had two years of experience serving as a Illinois representative in Congress before becoming President. He is only remembered as being one of America’s greatest President. He had the Civil War to deal with. Sometimes experience doesn’t mean jack sh*t.
You also cited Military experience. Might I remind you that Bill Clinton, whom you love so much, has never served ONE DAY in the US military? Neither has Hillary. Just a thought.

Yeahh. Country before party. Chooos HRC or it is Nobama and Nodem.

Let Obama bomb on his own.
Relax all you VP bloggers. Obama will NEVER want Hillary on the ticket.
As I have said, over and over, Hillary outclasses him on almost every level.
Why would Obama want someone who makes him look unprepared, slow and small?
Focus…..stay together….stay strong.
NO Obama in November.

DemsUnited
We have a strict process at our company before an employee can get into management. I served on the board for several years and I can tell you that Obama would NEVER have made it past the board. He would have been told to get more experience and try again. We have a low success rate with managers who are good talkers yet who have no experience other than a good education. We require both a good education and experience before people are granted an opportunity to be qualified even to be considered for management.

Debbie,
I agree with you on that front. Many businesses are run the same way. You need education AND Experience. But here are a few points to take into consideration:
The United States is NOT a Business. The primary responsibility of a business is to make a profit. The Primary responsibility of the US Governement is to care for its citizens. Two totally different agendas. If the Unites States were to be run like a business, why not elect Bill Gates or Ross Perot when he ran? Or why not elect Mitt Romney? All of these men are success business men. If you want a woman, why not elect Oprah? She is definately a successful business woman.
Using your owns standards, would Hillary Clinton had gotten past your BOARD in the year 2000 when she ran for the US Senate seat? The only political credentials she had was a FAILED Medicare policy and being the wife of a President. I would surely hope not. I do not deny that Hillary has worked her ass off for the people of this country,, but why deny that Obama has done the same. She has been doing it longer only because she is older than Obama.
The point is, if political experience was everything, Hillary would not be where she is today, and neither would Obama. Lincoln or kennedy would never have become President either. If the US was run like a business, Americans would be in deep trouble indeed.

LeeLee07,
Well said, I agree with you there’s a lot of stuff going under the bus.

“Well said, I agree with you there’s a lot of stuff going under the bus.”
@Mary – Not to mention it’s getting sort of crowded under there!!! lol :)
H*ll NO, The Fake Nominee Won’t!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter

again with gusto…
dream ticket is a delusional idea.
not just the bill clinton baggage.
but also because hillary would have to explain her comment about commander in chief, and why now she has changed her mind.
the bobby kennedy comment is a problem she’s stuck with because of vince foster and files she had in her possession, rather than because of the obama safety issue, imho.

@DemsUnited – There you go again – still don’t want to own up to anything Obama does. That’s ok, he doesn’t either.
As far as disrespecting women, your Obama Man has spent his whole campaign disrespecting his opponent and other women. Most people could see that. Not you though, it just went right over your head. lol.
Women everywhere should give him the finger, just like he did Hillary! :D
H*ll NO, The Fake Nominee Won’t!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter

LeeLee07,
There you go again, not owning up to anything that Clinton does. Whaever disrespect Obama did to Clinton is marginal, at best. Look at how disrespectful Clinton treated Obama!!!!
This is what I’m talking about. Obama dismisses Clinton when she’s being foolish, and you see that as being disrespectful to ALL Women!!!! Clinton is disrespectful to Obama and you’re like “So what? Its her right”.
The hypocrisy!!!!!

LongHornMama,
What a very insightful post. I agree with you 100% on that. I was a man that grew up in a single parent home (My Mother) so I have nothing but the greates respect for women and what they can achieve. I just don’t like it when women accuse me of being sexist simply because I encourage them not to play into the stereotypes in which men hold them. Just like whites who support the betterment of blacks don’t like being called racist.
That being said, I think its time for blacks everywhere to throw Spike Lee under the bus!!!! It was long overdue!!!

In Obama’s first election for the Illinois Senate, he had his minions challenge the petition signatures of his opponents. As a result, he ran unopposed.
He is no stranger to dirty politics.
Let’s not reward the Democratic Party. It only takes 10 to 15% of Hillary supporters across the country to make a difference.

Hillary bully supporters-READ MY LIPS-NO VP FOR HILLARY!!! 1. She has no foriegn policy experienced 2. She can’t be trusted- sniper fire and fake gas tax-3. She has Bill (womanizing)4. She has no loyality-she endoresed MCCain over Obama 5. She has no class-She called Obama a wimp and used the “kitchen sink” and blamed Obama for his pastor comments and said he should have left yet Monica Lewinsky committed sexual acts with Bill and she didn’t leave. 6. She has no shame-she said Obama could be assasinated so that’s why she was staying in the race. So from this list she DERSERVES NO VP. Obama is too smart to put her on the ticket.

“Obama dismisses Clinton when she’s being foolish, and you see that as being disrespectful to ALL Women!!!!”
Well, I rest my case. ROFLMAO!!! (I betcha still don’t have a clue, lol.)
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
H*ll NO, The Fake Nominee Won’t!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter

Now who will the media, blogs etc. going to pick on. I did it – I went to the voters registration office and change my registration to Independent. My grandmother told me stories how she march for the cause of women to vote. She was very active. It was the 19th Adm. of 1920. I found this quote from Susan B. Anthony which stated no self respecting woman should wish or work for success of a party that ignores her. I am no longer a Democrat.

i say NO dream ticket because it will never work. not only could it cause more problems with her scandals but repubs could use her words against him, she has slammed him every step of the way, although she ran a very close race and shouldnt go home empty handed she should get something just not VP… im not sure what he could do for her or even where he could put her on the ticket. but thats up to them i dont see her as weak and i know she can more than handle that with out anyone pushing him to do so.. thats if that hasnt already been settled with the little meeting they had..

SHE did nothing wrong. She had grace and poise and actually went negative LESS than he did.
But… it is all perception, not truth. He is the imposter.
His supporters had more hate than her supporters.
We did not expect so much nasty, mean-spirited, vitriolic name-calling and insults. NOT in the democratic party. Not from the campaign of unity, hope and change.
Also Obama let his campaign call her a racist. He himself labeled her as an old style washington insider and warmonger.
and Obama lied that she was a divider and he the uniter.

@eyes wide open – Are we related???? lol.
Posted by: eyes wide open | Jun 8, 2008 6:22:21 PM
H*ll NO, The Fake Nominee Won’t!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter

LeeLee07 ,
why are you still fighting for hillary against obama? she joined his campaign you look foolish and its so long no one is going to read it all..
your so pro hillary then you should show it and back obama like she asks her supporters to..

Why do the Obama supporters continue to slug mud in Hillary’s path? Being gracious is obviously NOT something that Obama supporters understand. I find it appauling that every time Clinton stories show up, the Obama camp supporters continue spewing their hatred. Unfortunately for them, they don’t realize that they NEED HILLARY SUPPORTERS to WIN this election!
I’m FIRMLY set in my voting for the fall. I will vote for McCain!
McClinton Supporter, 2008!

“….. Pick a minority to run with. Bill Richardson has your back. Its our turn now! Don’t give it to another white candidate.
Power to the People!!!
WOULD YOU KIND OF LABEL THAT A TAD
“RACIST”?
Is this the change BO is talking about?
Is this the result of affirmative action?

Who said, “Our Chickens have come home to roost”, after the CIA-trained bin Laudin team did 9-11?
PS Rev Wright is not the correct answer.
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Rev Wright was quoting someone he had seen be interviewed on TV.
Hint. He was white and a US Ambassador.

I’m not voting for McCain, I’m not voting for Obama. More of the same from McCain – the unknown from Obama. I voted for Clinton and unless she’s on the ticket, I’m staying home in November. I’m not going to contribute to more inexperienced hucksters like GWBush & Obama running this country… look what mess we are in and I don’t have any faith that Obama can turn it around. You need someone who has battle scars and can tough it out… that’s Hillary Clinton. Those that supported Obama are pie-in-the-sky people that think when Obama sneezes that’s a revelation! Get your head out of the mud… politics is rough business, you need someone who can tough it out… who has a proven record of accomplishment as well as toughing it out…. you think the Republicans are going to stand for lefty Obama – they couldn’t stand the Clintons…because they were too in the middle and moving into their base. The Republicans are going to go hog wild on Obama and he’s not going to know what hit him… then he’ll wish he had Bill and Hillary’s armor to protect him!
Fools, fools, fools…

Sorry Obama – This is one Hillary supporter that will vote McCain come this November. You will have no one to blame for your your loss in November but yourself, your racist church, your crooked friends AND your nasty juvenile supporters. Go back to Chicago and clean that up before you try to clean up our country. No Obama – NEVER.

This true democrat will now leave the new UNdemocratic party of avid haters.
That is not the party I belonged to all my life.
Hate will NEVER unite.
When you learn that lesson and respect and tolerance… I may come back.

Obama Was Selected, Not Elected
Obama was giving his selection speech (it can’t be a victory speech, he did not win) and he started it off by pulling his grandma from under the bus. He acknowledged her and the fact that she raised him and he said that tonight was for her. He said she was in Hawaii and could not make it because of her health. I guess it is all the same, he does not want a typical white person around him anyway.
I have to admit, the guy gives a good speech and he really gets the crowd into it. Then again, so did Hitler and we know how that ended. Obama is saying a lot of nothing and he is inspiring a lot of people with promises he cannot keep. It is unfortunate that so many Americans are absolutely clueless with regard to this guy and with politics in general.
But then again, what should we expect from a group of people who cried about Bush being “selected” and not elected while acting as if Obama, who really was selected rather than elected, as if he is the second coming of the messiah

Spugee, that is Obama’s plan not mine.

This mess was caused by the DNC and the super delegates and they will have to answer to all the Democrats after Obama loses in November.
I did not chose Obama for many reasons. The color of his skin was not even a consideration, even though his supporters like to think it was. Just because Senator Clinton is not in the race anymore, that does not mean that I automatically will chose Obama.
If I have to pick from a ticket without Senator Clinton at the top, then I will vote for McCain. He does not stand for the Democratic Party values that I have always supported, BUT NEITHER DOES THE LEADERSHIP OF THE PARTY THIS ELECTION SEASON!
I would write in Senator Clintion but that will not effect the outcome of the race and then the unacceptable tactics used by the party leaders will prevail.
Sometimes we have to chose the lesser of two evils – supporting the Democratic Party this year is more than I can stomach.

The sheep followed their leaders call to agitate hate and division.
Now they follow his call to guilt trip for unity.
Good luck with that.
I am a free thinker.
I do not follow orders on HOW to vote.

Love you Hillary.
From this day forward, you are the only democrat I will EVER vote for.
This party shamed us all with its favoritism and it ugly attacks on you.
We will not give in.
Greetings, John McCain. I can survive 4 more years.
Dems…. learn from this. NO unity by cheating, hating, attacking, denigrating and corruption.

I am in agreement with all who wont vote for Obama. I wont sell my soul for that idiot. HIllary is my one and ONLY choice. Sorry Hillary, but my conscience wont let me go down that road….hope he can lure someone else into his web of lies……
HILLARY 2012

Dems United
It is the Electoral College that elects the President not a stupid and biased CN&N poll!
Obama is aware of this fact!
It only takes 10 to 15% of us to switch party allegiance.
Let’s do what is right for the country and not the party.
Tell the liberal George W. Bush to go back to Illinois!

I still believe that Hillary is the right candidate for 2008. I really was turned off to Obama supporters, and they way they degraded Hillary and her campaign. Because, of this I will be voting McCain (like the other 30-40%), to teach them a lesson. I rather have 4 more years of a republican administration (how really bad can it get, pehaps another tax cut ?) then have Obama stuff down my throat by hillary haters.
If Hillary is on the ticket, I may reconsider …

Liz, all this animosity was true about Obama.

Thank you, Steve Sanchez and rd. I have enjoyed both of your posts and have saved quite a few of them – I always save the good ones. :)
H*ll NO, The Fake Nominee Won’t!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter

Hillary tells it like it is and is a fighter, two things Obama is not. She would be a great VP for the country.

NEVER….
I love YOU Hillary but I cannot support obama.
I’m voting for mccain.
Obama is too inexperienced and the democratic party did themselves a disservice when they selected him over you.
i will not get over it.

Anders Scooper,
The definition of animosity is: a feeling of strong dislike, ill will, or enmity that tends to display itself in action. If, as you say, Clinton’s animosity was justified, then that reinforces why she should not be the VP candidate.

I was thinking the same thing!

I’ve thought long and hard about this…
Hillary, yes…. Obama? naahhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Teach the haters that we will not vote for their candidate in the end- that would be to enable and to encourage more of that same methodology in the future.
They are counting on al of us to return inspite of the filth and hate they buried HRC with.
I am voting against the hatred shown to HRC and all her supporters.
I will wait for the DEMS to mend their corrupt and divisive ways.

I’m one of Hillary supporters. I’ll not vote for Obama whatever Hillary will say about him and whatever Hillary will do to promote him. I know Hillary is forced to endorse him and it’s the national grace that she has to do so!!!
The democratic party is the most corrupt party which I have finally realized through this race. This nomination was stolen from Hillary. They not only disenfranchised the voters in Florida and Michigan, but also forced superdelegates to support Obama to put him on top. This party deserves to lose in the fall. The whole nominating delegate system is flawed and the caucuses system is so undemocratic.
Hillary supporters, please take your actions seriously if you are thinking about voting for Obama. Please vote for your conscience, not for the party. Obama cannot fulfill his words. He just picks whatever people like to hear so that he can get elected. He’s proven himself to be a typical hypocrit and flip-flop on day one.

Hillary could have run as Independant and won the election.

On Election Day, Hillary Supporters will rise and ensure that Barack Obama will not ever cross the threshold of the Oval Office as President of these United States. It will be then, and only then, that we will partake of the kool-aid…
H*ll NO, The Fake Nominee Won’t!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08

WHY SHOULD WE ?? why should anyone ?? When the wanna be first wife said this?? ”
When asked in February whether she would support Hillary if she were to beat Mr Obama to the nomination, Michele replied: “I’d have to think about that. I’d have to think about that, her policies, her approach, her tone.”
NOW there is some party loyalty for you Well I might just think all the way to November and vote for MCCAIN insted of the demographic party selection cadidate
Thanks for asking

Shame on the party and Obama and his supporters for the abuse they heaped, for the trashed they talked, for the hate they inspired, for the attacks they indulged in.
No vote for Obama.
I’m stubborn… don’t try to guilt trip me into voting for the party.
The party needs to grow some virtue and integrity. Till then, I am gone.
Only Hillary will EVER get a vote from me for the democrats for the last years of my adult life.

I will vote for Obama, when Michelle Obama casts a vote for Hillary.
Last I saw, she scrunched up her nose at the thought.
That is unity? That is loyalty to party?

Kerry – I was a strong Clinton supporter too and have switched to Obama. They have a lot more in common than they actually have differences. I would have much more preferred voting for Clinton in Nov. than Obama, believe me. But McCain is too much a continuation of the Bush years. The country may not have the resiliency of another four years of war mongering and unbridled favoritism to the wealthy and corporate interests.

I am not planning on switching to Obama.
There is still so much that we don’t know about him. I am not voting for him because he is African American. I need a stronger reason, which no one has been able to provide. John McCain is not a George W. Bush! Obama has more in common with George W. Bush, which is a total lack of experience.
Obama will be a liberal George W. Bush!

You are not getting yours at the expense of your country. We have a lot of people who love our country and are not going to vote on race alone!

Reverend Wrong is not right and either are you!

A one way ticket to Illinois!

Feinstein would be a better choice for VP, especially being from California. Her experience as an elected official is far more significant than Clinton’s. If Hilary’s people had difficulty managing former President Clinton during her election, do you really think Obama is going to want Bilary on the ticket?

Obama never, neither canidate could be the nominee without the supers. This country was split so it wasn’t against the majority since Obama was ahead in pledged delegates. And the supers went with the will of the people.

Diane Feinstein would make an excellent choice. I have voted for her every time.
Hillary Clinton would still be better!

I have not heard one good reason to vote for Obama.
Most Obama minions don’t know why they are voting for him. Except, Big Willie, he is voting for him because Obama is supposed to make up for the wrongs of the past.

Erin,
What Bush policies will he continue?
Obama has stated that he will return to Iraq if he feels it is a threat.
The last planned withdrawal from Iraq took eighteen months!

I am Clinton’s supporter, now I switch to John, I will send money and ask friend and you do the same thing. Please go out and vote for John McCain in November.

I switched from Democratic party to Independent last Friday. This is the only thing I can do. Media and DNC picked up Obama. Senate Clinton deserves more respect than what the MSM and DNC have given.

I don’t want either Mccain or Obama. I guess I will vote for Nader.

Senator Clinton owes absolutely nothing to a party that basically sold her down the river. If she lowers herself to groveling at Obama’s feet, I will lose all respect for her. The true “average” GOPer could care less about her past. People who think she’s going to drag republicans out of the wood works have bought into the media hype. Stop watching so much television and start thinking for yourselves. I didn’t respect Hilary very much at the beginning of this race, but I’ve got to tell you, now I’m convinced this woman has grit. She may not ever be president. But, she wins the tough test for me. I can’t stand McCain. Yeah, Obama is a rock star, but I expect a bit more from a presidential candidate. I’ll write in someone. Maybe, ole Hilary.

Who is Obama? Another Kerry? or Another Ted Kenedy? A loser……November
Vote for John McCain.

The truth is that nobody see the big picture, and president Bush is not very popular now.It will take time before people get enlightend and see the visdom and greatnes of our president.And how can Hussein Obama with Michelle take his place in the White House? Our country will be in a worst setuation in the world and it will be the big change.I wish , more people would support and speak up for president Bush.

If I were her, I would not support for Obama. I would vote for Obama. Hillary is a much better candidate for presidency.

Don’t whisper Kaine or Webb to me. I’m not listening. I’ve got the antidote to Richardson. When the FBI investigates him, will we know how much weed he does do a day? If anyone other than Hillary takes the spot, it will be a slap in the face to all women. This woman helped IGNITE the race. Give it to white male X now, and suffer the consequences.

Texas Lil, please calm down and tell me why you are so angry. Neither canidate could win without the supers. Obama won the most delegates. Our canidate is chosen based on that. Taking the nomination away from him would be stealing it.
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In Texas the Obama people “padded” the delegate count and blamed it on not being able to do the”easy math” formula.
That’s one thing….Secondly the DNC treats the primaries like a five year olds T-ball tournament…EVERYBODY gets a trophy! They really need to learn something from the Republicans and have a winner takes all. And you know what…there’s also Michigan and Florida. Enough?

Texas is not necessarily Bush country any more. Counties are turning blue again,because of Bush. But the primary fiasco has discouraged many, many people. As far as the “rules” go…they need to be changed….but that would involve rule makes to follow the rules. Which they don’t. I saw it time and time again thru out this process. Rules are followed when it benefits the party “bosses” ignored when it doesn’t.

They are scared to death over losing Hillary’s supporters. Too little, too late Feinstein, why didn’t she speak up sooner about the unfair treatment.
This has nothing to do with Hillary, I am not a robot. I will not vote for the blue Bush no matter who they put on the ticket. The Dem party is history.
They are despicable.

I don’t regard Obama as qualified. His resume is too thin, especially his lack of foreign affairs and military command experience. It hasn’t helped that Obama staffers blithely apply the “racist” label to anyone who doesn’t think he’s wondrous. I’ve been colorblind and post-racial for three times as long as some of them have been alive.
I hope that McCain pledges to maintain a centrist SC, and consult with HRC in regard to his health plan. If so, I’ll go back to being an Independent, and he’ll get my vote.

And as you consider what is really fair and square, please ALSO consider some of these results from the caucus states:
IOWA -Decision of the voters: Obama 38% Edwards 30% Clinton 29%; Current delegate apportionment: Obama 60% Clinton 31% Edwards 9% (27-14-4)
NEVADA: Decision of the voters: Clinton 51% Obama 45%; Current delegate apportionment: Obama 56% Clinton 44% (14-11)
MICHIGAN: Clinton 55% Uncommitted 40% (votes for Obama, Edwards, Richardson, etc.); DNC-adjusted delegate apportionment: Clinton 54% Obama 46% (69-59)
TEXAS: Decision of 2.8 million voters: Clinton 51% Obama 47%; Current delegate apportionment, when including incomplete caucus tally: Obama 51% Clinton 49% (99-94)
WASHINGTON* Caucus Obama 68% Clinton 31%; Primary Obama 51% Clinton 46%
NEBRASKA* Caucus Obama 68% Clinton 32%; Primary Obama 49% Clinton 46%
IDAHO* Caucus Obama 79% Clinton 17%; Primary Obama 64% Clinton 31%
* In WA, NE, Idaho, more people participated in the primaries than the caucuses. HRC did significantly better in the primaries than the caucuses, but the delegates are awarded based only on the caucus votes.
Consider also:
Several thousand people showed up for the Idaho caucuses netting Obama 12 delegates
2.3 million voters showed up in Pennsylvania netting HRC 12 delegates
Upshot:
In the 37 primary states, HRC led by 500,000 votes (counting Florida and Michigan and giving BO 75% of the votes of Michigan’s uncommitted delegates), netting HRC a 67 delegate lead.
In the 13 caucus states, BO led by 300,000 votes, netting him in a 205 delegate lead. Source: Jeralyn E. Merritt at TalkLeft [http://www.talkleft.com/]
In the event SDs votes would come into play in the convention to be held in August, one could hope that it would be the SDs who would right such obvious inequity, rather than compounding it as they have done heretofore.

Hillary BETTER NOT be on the Obama ticket, or we’re voting for SOMEONE ELSE!!!! And there are plenty who feel this way!
ANYBODY but that lying, cheating, nose-bloodying Hillary from Arkansas!

Senator Obama, We don’t know who you are. You have been reported to make youself unavailable to the press and hate debates. Your supporters say over and over, read his books. I’m not sure why the American people should have to buy your books contributing to your fortunes from royalties, before they have decided if they are willing to support you. Compromise. Why don’t you put your books on line, and I’ll read them. Thank you for your consideration.

I, like many supporters loved having William Jefferson Clinton as President. The fact that the Republicans were tripping all over themselves trying to get him on anything and everything to end his Presidency and they failed, made my support of the Clintons that much stronger. How nice to have people like Bill and Hillary who really stand up to certain forces and accomplish most of what they promise for the people. Our admiration and respect is deep because we know them and the good that they are capable of in spite of vigorous attacks to stop them. Hillary’s toughness amongst the unprecidented calls for her to quit made my support grow deeper. Naturally I want her on the ticket regardless of what a “dead end” job people think VP is; Hillary will surely redefine the role as only she could and our country would be better for it.

Next he’s going to be telling us he used propaganda and lies to start this war, I’m scared.

What is wrong with this picture: Obama supporters & DNC are telling Hillary supporters to unite behind Obama, yet the DNC & Obama supporters are completely unwilling to call on the carpet to unite behind Hillary as the VP? Once again- another double standard that is not at all supportive of the female. All this concern and effort to avoid the black voter outrage if Obama picks Hillary as his VP! This whole democratic party makes me sick. Anyway, Hillary can run circles around Obama- can’t see her as being second to him in anything. And if he doesn’t ask her- it is because he knows she is his superior.

Lisa: You are wrong in everything you said. Hillary is ten times smarter than Obama will ever be when it comes to politics. Obama is a good speaker only because he studied the speeches of RFK and used many of this words like hope and change. Obama would need extensive training from day one. The VP’s they have in mind would never work out. Feinstein is right. Obama knows that Hillary would outshine him with the public because she was the first lady. Obama could never run this country like Bill Clinton, who is kidding who. Some house democrats are refusing to endorse him now. If Hillary doesn’t get the VP she should run as an independent to take votes away from Obama so he would lose.

David Hussein Alexander: Well, I am disagreeing with you because Obama is not that experienced or that smart in making decisions. He needs all the help he can get. He wears a piece in his ear so his adviser can tell him what to say on the platform. We all know that. He stammered many times when he was asked questions, cannot answer quick enough, and sometimes has to think before answering. And you saying he would do well. What have you been drinking? Hillary is ten times smarter than Obama will ever be and he is no match for Bill Clinton who ran this country excellent. What we don’t want is a disaster worse than it is now and by electing Obama that’s what is going to happen. And guess who is coming to the white house for dinner? Wright, Farrakhan, Ayers, Father P an Ayres. He really knew how to choose his associates for a Harvard graduate. God will have to help us if he is elected.

NoWay: Better still why don’t you stay home and watch the voting on TV. No one is going to miss your vote. Write in Ron Paul, Joe Lieberman, Kerry, Kennedy, Oprah. Who cares. No one knows if he is going to win the presidency and he won’t if Hillary decided to run as an independent. That’s the good news.

You know I find it interesting to hear how fellow Democrats are treating each other. I supported Hillary Clinton. Am I disappointed? Yes. But what troubles me most is that Obama supporters have a huge hatred for the Clintons. Do they even know why they hate the Clintons? It is absurd. President Clinton left office with the highest approval ratings of any President in history. All this talk about him wanting power is silly. I am proud of what the Clinton Foundation has accomplished. The 20 million people on the African Continent are happy that they can now receive HIV medication. That was a deal that the Clinton Foundation brokered. Why have we demonized this man? He has done great things since he left office. My family benefited a great deal from his administrations policies. The family medical leave act is a Clinton legacy. Almost 25 million new jobs were created under his economic policies. The national deficit was erased under his leadership. We would be foolish to think this is not a great man. I should ask all those “change” the world Obama supporters if they have reached into their wallets and given to a charity lately. Frankly,this country has performed at it’s potential when a Clinton was in Washington. They have fought for the American Dream. As for not putting Hillary Clinton on the ticket…I don’t see how you could deny the candidate that got over 18 million votes. You don’t just snub her but you snub her supporters. Those of us who stood in the cold to hear her speak. She inspired 18 million people. She is a Democrat. She is one of us. Obama is one of us. At the end of the day we are all on the same side. More democrats came out to vote in this primary season than at any other time in out nation’s history. How is it not a “Dream Ticket?” As I said earlier, I supported Senator Clinton. But now I support Senator Obama. Why? Because I am a democrat. I am not proud of my current party but I am damn proud of the Democratic Party. Let’s make history. Let’s not just have “Change” but “colossal change.”
No one can turn their backs on the 18 million supoorters,democrats, who voted for the other candidate. John Kerry did not turn his back John Edwards in 2004. Why should we ask Obama to turn his back Clinton. They represent two factions of the Democratic Party. Let’s unite and be unbeatable. I urge all democrats to push for this ticket. Imagine this country next year when we swear in the first African American President and the First Female Vice President. History like that is a rare thing. History like that comes,if it comes, only once in a lifetime.

Well, her dreams for a “dream” ticket just went down the toilet with the hiring of Patti S. Doyle. With that smack in the face to Hillary, Obama just brought about a complete reversal by the few Clinton supporters that were actually beginning to think about supporting him. Now they are running in the opposite direction again with the rest of her supporters. This guy needs a real political tact intervention–along with his cranky wife! Maybe it did give them some sort of grim satisfaction to “stick it” to Hillary, but they are shooting themselves in the foot for the GE.