McCain acknowledged that the economy isn’t his strong suit, but he continues to hold up rather well in the polls. Among likely voters he is up by about 4 points. Other polls have him trailing slightly among all voters. This is very hard to understand. Generic Democrats enjoy double digit advantages in some polls.
McCain may not know everything about the economy but Obama knows ZILCH. Especially as he would raise taxes which never works.
McCain is it, and McCain it WILL be. He’s up with likely voters and that’s all that matters.
Posted by: Jo | July 28, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Keep dreaming haters..McCain is going to get blown out in November…
Posted by: jim | July 28, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
The reality is Obama is a weak candidate! With the economy in shambles, record gas prices, an unpopular incumbent, 2 unpopular wars, and Obama is virtually tied with a republican? And they are just warming up, they were holding their fire waiting to make sure he was the nominee…
Hillary would be ahead by 20 points now!
With the economy tanking, maybe we should consider Hillary lucky that she’s not running.
Whoever gets to be president this time around…. will leave a bad taste in the mouths of his supporters.
heh heh
McCain cited Wall Street as the problem. The problem began with political deregulation, not on a street.
Posted by: Kat | July 29, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Brilliant. The Obama has brought two of Bush’s stellar economic henchmen into the Obama campaign. I guess there was a huge idiot-deficiency after the loss of Jeremiah Wright from the campaign, and the driving forces of nature compel that anytime there is an idiot-void, it must be filled with other random available idiots. This is one of the Obama’s smoothest acts yet. He is as smooth as the skin of a zombie, no doubt.
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Visualize NOT the Obama!!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | July 29, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
hmmmmm,
I agree with you.
Whoever get elected will face a very tough situation.
Posted by: catleya | July 29, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
What does Obama know about economics ??
He is a Lawyer, he nows how to bill by the hour.
Posted by: VJ Machiavelli | July 29, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
If Senator Obama is elected, we need look no further than his state senate district in South Chicago area to know how he will bring the economy back–loss of 11% of jobs in 8 years, more poverty and hand-outs, more drugs and crime. Yea, he knows how to fix the economy. The only economy he fixed was moving his family into a mansion with the help of criminal Tony Rezko. Think we need a magician rather than either of these two candidates. It is going to take a long time, will get worse before better. Can we live on HOPE?
Posted by: Mary | July 29, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
Fact is the pres has to have a long term, far sighted policy, backed by short term solutions to the current problems. Clinton had it and did it in his first year, passing an economic strategic plan by a vote of 51 to 49. Obama has no ba lls to play, being tighted up by Jackson and alike, and he showed no record of getting that type of tough legislation done. He is not only getting zero support from the reps he will be filabustered completely. even if the dems get 60 senators, 3 more might shift to independent aligned with reps.
You need someone who has a policy on energy, something a problem not going a way as china and india each will consume more oil than the US in 20 years.. If there is no long term goal, getting the energy needs by 80% from non-petro sources, the phony candi is deceiving you on his HOPE of economy. He got his advise from Rezko on his economy while you lost your housing to foreclosure. He took credit for being the chairman of senate banking committee – only problem is he lied to you for forgetting he was not banking chair, but the chairman overseeing NATO and its war in Afghanistan.
What this phony did? Took a trip to Afghanistan for his political gains; even so, 3.5 years too late. Now he blames there is a problem in Afghanistan.
This will be the kind of blames you get on his economy – it’s others fault for filabustering him.
Phony deceptor.
Posted by: fact check | July 29, 2008, 3:39 am 3:39 am
On the polls, I think this is one are to give the outlying polls some credence. I think the polls that cite a 5 or 6 point advantage may not be entirely giving a full picture just yet, because they put too much credence on ‘undecideds’ who in actuial fact may be more like ‘inclined, but not yet convinced to vote for…’ and most of them may well break for Obama, I think a 10 pt lead may be somewhat more accurate to imagine right now. Lets face it with 3 months to go there are plenty of people just getting to know Obama. But also there are a couple of Electoral College maps that project Obama as having over 270 even with some states in play (Zogby, and Karl Rove’s map he had out the other day.)
In short, at the moment I would imagine this is closer than Obama would feel comfortable with, but he is still clearly ahead in most peoples reckoning, and my analysis going forward from here is that it should be easier for him to convince people to vote for him, than it is for McCain to convince people who haven’t already decided to to vote for McCain. I guess the slight X factor in all this is how effective negative Republican tactics will be. McCain may not be able to get a groundrush of votes for himself but he may be able to get people to thin about whether they really want Obama as President?
Posted by: markymark | July 29, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am
You talk about Obama raising taxes, yet the fundamentals of the economy totally escape you.
The Republicans have raised your taxes more in the past 8 years than any other administration. You just don’t understand it, because George charged it for you instead of letting you pay as you go. He has maxed out the national credit card big time (1/2 a trillion) and after he leaves office, “we the people” are still stuck with the tab. He charged more than we can safely repay from our meager budgets, and he changed bankruptcy laws so we have to pay no matter what.
I guess that woman who committed suicide because of foreclosure won’t be paying for George’s fleecing of America! She found the only way out that I can see.
Posted by: DAVID NH | July 29, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am
What is this country coming to? I read that Caroline Kennedy will choose the Dem V.P. How is she qualified to do anything political? Just because she was fathered by a former President — that makes her an expert? Well, it all fits with the liberal, left Democrats. Obama has no experience so why should the person who selects his V.P. have experience?
Posted by: Jason | July 29, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
Here’s the BEST yet!\\
Former BUSH advisers are now “advising”
OBAMA. hahahahahaha
Posted by: Jason | July 29, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am
Rather than continue the closedminded approach of shrub, Sen O actually welcomes the opinios of others in developing a plan to move the nation forward. We have seen 7+ yrs of stubbornheaded leadership, criminal acts all through the administration ( rove keeps looking over his shoulder for the next citizen to arrest him) and a general disregard of the little folks. We’re just good for providing taxes so the shrub adm. can find new ways to steal them (cronyisn, no-bid contracts, pushing energy alternatives that ARE oil-based, instaed of true alternate fuels). BTW, remember the car industry couldn’t get that mileage up for US cars? Ford was selling cars overseas that get 40 mi per gallon. They didn’t sell them over here for a reason. Guess what that reason was?
But now, they can start to build and sell them. Games, games, GOP games.
Posted by: MariaWr | July 29, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
Obama’s economic plan is to raise the debt even further by issuing another round of stimulus checks. Only a clueless, free-spending liberal could come up with that one!
Did you see the footage of him discussing economics? The poor little parrot had to keep looking down to read the notes he’d been given by his advisors – he doesn’t even know enough to be able to fake it!
Oh, and all that money he said he’d have to spend by ending the war in Iraq? (Although of course thinking people realize that since that’s all been on an IOU basis, it doesn’t give us a penny to spend.) That’s going to be spent in Afghanistan. As are our troops’ blood.
Who voted for this fraud?
Posted by: marylou | July 29, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am
You need to look at statements from the entire Democratic and Republican leadership to get a better picture of what is in store. Obama isn’t alone. His goals should be examined in the context of statements from others such as Pelosi. There is a noticeable theme of the transfer of wealth and that means taxes and giveaways. How is a global or even US war on poverty and improvements for the millions of illegals in the country to be financed?
Do the same for McCain. Presidents don’t act alone.
We’re overfocused on the cults of personality, agism, racism, and so on. We aren’t paying enough attention to party platforms and agendas.
Posted by: len | July 29, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Absolutely correct, len. And the pity is that the middle class taxpayers who are falling for Obama’s promise of tax cuts can’t see the writing on the wall – that just taxing the wealthy won’t begin to pay for Obama’s giveaways and that the “relatively wealthy” aka the middle class will be forced to pony up more taxes so that the “poor” (which includes non-workers and illegals in this country plus the poor in other countries) can have more. It’s that piece of the pie Michelle was talking about…
Posted by: marylou | July 29, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
I wonder what would happen if the all the countries that America owes money to, woke up one morning and decided to stop extending our default dates on our loans? That would amount to what’s known in the housing market a what? “foreclosure” wouldn’t it? I wonder where we’d go outsted out of our own country by the countries we’re stroding all over flexing muscle we don’t have. I think we need to tone it down a bit, and try to get along with our lenders better so we can get refinanced, cause America has long been sold. We need to take America back and we’re not going to do it by fighting and being at odds with every country we owe money to. I guaranty you that. Obama the voice of reason.
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McCain acknowledged that the economy isn’t his strong suit, but he continues to hold up rather well in the polls. Among likely voters he is up by about 4 points. Other polls have him trailing slightly among all voters. This is very hard to understand. Generic Democrats enjoy double digit advantages in some polls.
Posted by: independent | July 28, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
McCain may not know everything about the economy but Obama knows ZILCH. Especially as he would raise taxes which never works.
McCain is it, and McCain it WILL be. He’s up with likely voters and that’s all that matters.
Posted by: Jo | July 28, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Keep dreaming haters..McCain is going to get blown out in November…
Posted by: jim | July 28, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
The reality is Obama is a weak candidate! With the economy in shambles, record gas prices, an unpopular incumbent, 2 unpopular wars, and Obama is virtually tied with a republican? And they are just warming up, they were holding their fire waiting to make sure he was the nominee…
Hillary would be ahead by 20 points now!
Posted by: lamecandidate | July 28, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
With the economy tanking, maybe we should consider Hillary lucky that she’s not running.
Whoever gets to be president this time around…. will leave a bad taste in the mouths of his supporters.
heh heh
Posted by: hmmmmm | July 28, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
lame
still hold on huh.
Posted by: Omentum | July 28, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
McCain cited Wall Street as the problem. The problem began with political deregulation, not on a street.
Posted by: Kat | July 29, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Brilliant. The Obama has brought two of Bush’s stellar economic henchmen into the Obama campaign. I guess there was a huge idiot-deficiency after the loss of Jeremiah Wright from the campaign, and the driving forces of nature compel that anytime there is an idiot-void, it must be filled with other random available idiots. This is one of the Obama’s smoothest acts yet. He is as smooth as the skin of a zombie, no doubt.
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Visualize NOT the Obama!!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | July 29, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
hmmmmm,
I agree with you.
Whoever get elected will face a very tough situation.
Posted by: catleya | July 29, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
What does Obama know about economics ??
He is a Lawyer, he nows how to bill by the hour.
Posted by: VJ Machiavelli | July 29, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
If Senator Obama is elected, we need look no further than his state senate district in South Chicago area to know how he will bring the economy back–loss of 11% of jobs in 8 years, more poverty and hand-outs, more drugs and crime. Yea, he knows how to fix the economy. The only economy he fixed was moving his family into a mansion with the help of criminal Tony Rezko. Think we need a magician rather than either of these two candidates. It is going to take a long time, will get worse before better. Can we live on HOPE?
Posted by: Mary | July 29, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
Fact is the pres has to have a long term, far sighted policy, backed by short term solutions to the current problems. Clinton had it and did it in his first year, passing an economic strategic plan by a vote of 51 to 49. Obama has no ba lls to play, being tighted up by Jackson and alike, and he showed no record of getting that type of tough legislation done. He is not only getting zero support from the reps he will be filabustered completely. even if the dems get 60 senators, 3 more might shift to independent aligned with reps.
You need someone who has a policy on energy, something a problem not going a way as china and india each will consume more oil than the US in 20 years.. If there is no long term goal, getting the energy needs by 80% from non-petro sources, the phony candi is deceiving you on his HOPE of economy. He got his advise from Rezko on his economy while you lost your housing to foreclosure. He took credit for being the chairman of senate banking committee – only problem is he lied to you for forgetting he was not banking chair, but the chairman overseeing NATO and its war in Afghanistan.
What this phony did? Took a trip to Afghanistan for his political gains; even so, 3.5 years too late. Now he blames there is a problem in Afghanistan.
This will be the kind of blames you get on his economy – it’s others fault for filabustering him.
Phony deceptor.
Posted by: fact check | July 29, 2008, 3:39 am 3:39 am
On the polls, I think this is one are to give the outlying polls some credence. I think the polls that cite a 5 or 6 point advantage may not be entirely giving a full picture just yet, because they put too much credence on ‘undecideds’ who in actuial fact may be more like ‘inclined, but not yet convinced to vote for…’ and most of them may well break for Obama, I think a 10 pt lead may be somewhat more accurate to imagine right now. Lets face it with 3 months to go there are plenty of people just getting to know Obama. But also there are a couple of Electoral College maps that project Obama as having over 270 even with some states in play (Zogby, and Karl Rove’s map he had out the other day.)
In short, at the moment I would imagine this is closer than Obama would feel comfortable with, but he is still clearly ahead in most peoples reckoning, and my analysis going forward from here is that it should be easier for him to convince people to vote for him, than it is for McCain to convince people who haven’t already decided to to vote for McCain. I guess the slight X factor in all this is how effective negative Republican tactics will be. McCain may not be able to get a groundrush of votes for himself but he may be able to get people to thin about whether they really want Obama as President?
Posted by: markymark | July 29, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am
You talk about Obama raising taxes, yet the fundamentals of the economy totally escape you.
The Republicans have raised your taxes more in the past 8 years than any other administration. You just don’t understand it, because George charged it for you instead of letting you pay as you go. He has maxed out the national credit card big time (1/2 a trillion) and after he leaves office, “we the people” are still stuck with the tab. He charged more than we can safely repay from our meager budgets, and he changed bankruptcy laws so we have to pay no matter what.
I guess that woman who committed suicide because of foreclosure won’t be paying for George’s fleecing of America! She found the only way out that I can see.
Posted by: DAVID NH | July 29, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am
What is this country coming to? I read that Caroline Kennedy will choose the Dem V.P. How is she qualified to do anything political? Just because she was fathered by a former President — that makes her an expert? Well, it all fits with the liberal, left Democrats. Obama has no experience so why should the person who selects his V.P. have experience?
Posted by: Jason | July 29, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
Here’s the BEST yet!\\
Former BUSH advisers are now “advising”
OBAMA. hahahahahaha
Posted by: Jason | July 29, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am
Rather than continue the closedminded approach of shrub, Sen O actually welcomes the opinios of others in developing a plan to move the nation forward. We have seen 7+ yrs of stubbornheaded leadership, criminal acts all through the administration ( rove keeps looking over his shoulder for the next citizen to arrest him) and a general disregard of the little folks. We’re just good for providing taxes so the shrub adm. can find new ways to steal them (cronyisn, no-bid contracts, pushing energy alternatives that ARE oil-based, instaed of true alternate fuels). BTW, remember the car industry couldn’t get that mileage up for US cars? Ford was selling cars overseas that get 40 mi per gallon. They didn’t sell them over here for a reason. Guess what that reason was?
But now, they can start to build and sell them. Games, games, GOP games.
Posted by: MariaWr | July 29, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
Obama’s economic plan is to raise the debt even further by issuing another round of stimulus checks. Only a clueless, free-spending liberal could come up with that one!
Did you see the footage of him discussing economics? The poor little parrot had to keep looking down to read the notes he’d been given by his advisors – he doesn’t even know enough to be able to fake it!
Oh, and all that money he said he’d have to spend by ending the war in Iraq? (Although of course thinking people realize that since that’s all been on an IOU basis, it doesn’t give us a penny to spend.) That’s going to be spent in Afghanistan. As are our troops’ blood.
Who voted for this fraud?
Posted by: marylou | July 29, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am
You need to look at statements from the entire Democratic and Republican leadership to get a better picture of what is in store. Obama isn’t alone. His goals should be examined in the context of statements from others such as Pelosi. There is a noticeable theme of the transfer of wealth and that means taxes and giveaways. How is a global or even US war on poverty and improvements for the millions of illegals in the country to be financed?
Do the same for McCain. Presidents don’t act alone.
We’re overfocused on the cults of personality, agism, racism, and so on. We aren’t paying enough attention to party platforms and agendas.
Posted by: len | July 29, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Absolutely correct, len. And the pity is that the middle class taxpayers who are falling for Obama’s promise of tax cuts can’t see the writing on the wall – that just taxing the wealthy won’t begin to pay for Obama’s giveaways and that the “relatively wealthy” aka the middle class will be forced to pony up more taxes so that the “poor” (which includes non-workers and illegals in this country plus the poor in other countries) can have more. It’s that piece of the pie Michelle was talking about…
Posted by: marylou | July 29, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
I wonder what would happen if the all the countries that America owes money to, woke up one morning and decided to stop extending our default dates on our loans? That would amount to what’s known in the housing market a what? “foreclosure” wouldn’t it? I wonder where we’d go outsted out of our own country by the countries we’re stroding all over flexing muscle we don’t have. I think we need to tone it down a bit, and try to get along with our lenders better so we can get refinanced, cause America has long been sold. We need to take America back and we’re not going to do it by fighting and being at odds with every country we owe money to. I guaranty you that. Obama the voice of reason.
Posted by: Robin | July 29, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm