Barack Obama’s Butterfly Effect
Today on CBS’s Face the Nation, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in Afghanistan, told the paparazzi-pursued correspondent Lara Logan that "the objective of this trip was to have substantive discussions with people like President Karzai or Prime Minister Maliki or President Sarkozy or others who I expect to be dealing with over the next eight to 10 years.
"And it’s important for me to have a relationship with them early, that I start listening to them now, getting a sense of what their interests and concerns are."
The notion that Obama will be dealing with world leaders for eighjt-to-ten years, possibly up through July 2018, suggests that either (a) he believes that not only will he be elected and re-elected, but the 22nd amendment will be repealed and he will be elected for a third term, OR (b) he was speaking casually and just meant two terms.
(I’m guessing b.)
There is a term in chaos theory describing the how infinitesmal variations of the initial condition of a dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system.
Most of us are more familiar with the more common name for it: the butterfly effect.
The butterfly effect was introduced in Ray Bradbury’s 1952 short story "A Sound of Thunder," when time travelers change the world beyond measure by accidentally killing a butterfly in prehistoric times.
Similarly, international diplomacy can be impacted by careless or glibly-chosen words. (Cue President Bush’s "crusade" remarks.)
Some Democratic allies of Obama’s are — off the record — concerned that the senator too often doesn’t consider the potential butterfly effect of his diction.
Take his support for an "undivided Jerusalem," or his remarks about women seeking abortions when they’re "feeling blue," which upset feminist leaders.
Or the media kerfuffle after his "refine my policies" presser.
On his press plane on July 5, after that incident, Obama said, "I’m surprised at how finely calibrated every single word was measured."
A reporter noted that that is precisely what happens with the president, he can change world affairs with one word, finely calibrating your words is what happens.
"Well, of course, no, I understand," Obama said. "But for me to say that I’m going to refine my policies, you know, I don’t think in anyway is inconsistent with prior statements and doesn’t change my strategic view that this war has to end and that I am going to end it as president."
This week Obama will have his words picked apart like never before, and it will be an international audience of not just opponents but actual enemies.
They will be watching and waiting to see if he kills any butterflies.
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Why, yes, and I hope the media is also watching to see if McCain “kills any butterflies”. Maybe what Obama was too polite to point out was that he was surprised at the different level of attention given to his words and McCain’s words. I would assume the leaders of both the Czech Republic and Slovakia may find it somewhat disturbing when a possible U.S. president demonstrates that he is unaware that they are two separate countries with two separate leaders. Gee, I would think that’s the kind of repeated mistake that would be a horrible blow to Obama’s candidacy, wouldn’t ya think? And yet, Maverick McCain gets away with it.
By the way, the whole “refine” kerfuffle seems to be a consequence of the fact that Obama understands the definition of “refine” (“to make improvement by introducing subtleties or distinctions”) and the media doesn’t. Perhaps an English language class for journalists might be in order? It seemed to me that many in the media were confusing “refine” with “revise”. Two separate words with two separates meanings, folks. Look ‘em up.
Posted by: Lisa | July 20, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
It could also mean that regardless of whether he wins, he wants to develop a relationship with them in the Senate? Isn’t that also possible?
Posted by: Chris | July 20, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Country_voter – You don’t “worship” your pastor, regardless of who it is, why would you say that Obama does? Does he carry around a shrine to Wright? Seriously, get your head out of the non-issues and start focusing on something besides object racism.
Posted by: Chris | July 20, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
killing the butterfly is when obama says “change” by which he means HE can change what he says the very next day. don’t we wish we could do this sometimes???
Posted by: plainolcitizen | July 20, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Is this Oprah’s cult thing, pretending one already has, or IS, whatever it is he wants?
Whatever it is, it’s tacky and annoying, and overflowing with false consciousness — howEVER cute the Europeans think he is.
Not only is The One not JFK, he’s not even Adam Clayton Powell, Jr.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 20, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
When you and others in the media focus as much on McCain’s vebal screw-ups e.g. Sunni v. Shia in Iraq, bomb-bomb-bomb-bomb Iran, 100 years’ stay in Iraq ad nausem then it might be possible to invest weight in criticism of Obama when/if he truly makes a mistake. Not-so-incidentally: “undivided Jerusalem” does NOT mean the same to everyone. There are nuances in speech that professional diplomats, if not reporters, thrive on.
Posted by: sophillyfatz | July 20, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Well done sophi. The hypocrisy of abc judging every single term Obama utters, while dismissing the mountain of evidence that openly suggests McCain is as incomptent a boob as Bush is highly, highly disengeneous. However not surpring as this is the same organization that had the most embarrasing primary night debate roundtable in the history of American politcs.
Posted by: Amy Heindenburg | July 20, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
“Do you think that when Obama leaves office he’ll just vanish?”
If he left the Senate, nobody’d notice — except for that FISA vote. Too bad he didn’t go for basketball before he got too old.
“Just vanish” would be great.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 20, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
This guy has been at tops 7 points ahead of McCain who’s been sleepwalking through the campaign itself. Mickey Mouse should be able to be getting a double digit lead over a Republican this election. But no, the Republicans put their strongest candidate and the Dems do as they always do, they are always sure to put the candidate most likely to not win in. This election is no different. You have a Republican who’s sleepwalking through this whole thing who stays in almost a statistical tie with the candidate who was going to bring in all those new voters and change the map. If the Dems lose this election we can thank the Obama supporters this year.
Posted by: alpaig52 | July 20, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
alpaig52
I know it seems as though McCain is “sleepwalking” but actually …that’s just him.
and about as effective as he gets.
Posted by: dl | July 20, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
There is no end to this man’s arrogance. No end whatsoever!
Posted by: Aston | July 20, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
“I know it seems as though McCain is “sleepwalking” but actually …that’s just him.”
McCain is jive and jovial because he knows he isn’t REALLY the Republican nominee. When September rolls around — and everybody’s soooo tired of Big Daddy Barack’s mob money, prissy pronouncements, and fake presidential seals — the REAL Republican nominee will be new and exciting.
Meanwhile, many disgusted Democrats will vote for McKinney and Nader.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 20, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Now people are picking up the fact that Obama is beyond arrogant. This man has never ever said “If I’m elected president.” He thinks he is already president. He is making redecoration plans for the Lincoln bedroom. He is saying that it will be hard to buy back his chicago home after his 2nd or 3rd term as president.
I can’t stand this man. How does one ever become so arrogant. He is making Bush look good and that is pretty hard to do.
Posted by: coolrepublica | July 20, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Obama: Nancy Pelosi’s very own puppet!
Posted by: Soetoro No! | July 20, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Obama did say he was going to change government.
His polices and platforms represent a socialist state.
The way he assumes he will be elected and remain the President that long, should send warning signs Across the country.
Who is Barack Obama really?
What Does Barack Obama Stand For?
How does he truly plan to change government?
Is he a danger to the United States of America?
All Questions that need addressed and answered. Plus more.
A man know one knew, comes from
nowhere, with nothing and a marketing and PR team and a speech, made him a presidential candidate. What is behind it all?
Why did the H.R. 40 bill that was written never get addressed? Because he was running and will not need it?
His history, His Best friends in his life are Characters in the FBI and CIA files.
Get real folks we do not need and actor, a super star, or just a like able person.
Nor do we need or want somone who can eaisly sway people for his own goals, whether it be by presuasion, mind conditioning or manipulation.
We Need Some one who has Proven they are fit to be Trusted, Fit to run a our Great Country.
Not something that should be taken lightly or by a good idea.
Posted by: seah | July 20, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
but i take it from the coverage it got that mccain didn’t kill any butterflies with his sunni/shiite mistake? to me that seems much more substantive than this…
Posted by: phi | July 20, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Regarding the free pass McCain gets from the press on his many gaffes…
if a butterfly dies in the woods and the press doesn’t report it, does it have an effect?
Posted by: Lisa | July 20, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
“Compared to Bush, both of these candidates are poets…”
How soon we forget. What Bush SAID to get elected — no wars, “compassionate conservative”, etc. — actually is just what Big Daddy Barack’s been doing. Until HE started acting like a Republican office-holder, that is.
This dude is done.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 20, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
What an arrogant sob!!
So he goes on his first ever field trip, tip-toeing through the tulips, fist-bumping every alQaida member and killing the most ever important butterfly.
Only an arrogant idiot would do such a thing. We can tell he has zilch for experience. The biggest failure that ever drew breath on foreign policy.
What’s scary is that failure is over there damaging years and years worth of relations with the United States. Somebody muzzle the fool.
Posted by: No bama idiot | July 20, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Gaffrican American*
O RLY?Today on CBS’s Face the Nation, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in Afghanistan, told the paparazzi-pursued correspondent Lara Logan that “the objective of this trip was to have substantive discussions with people like President Karzai or Prime Ministe…
Posted by: baldilocks | July 20, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Isn’t it illegal to be president for more than 8 consecutive years? Someone might want to look into that.
Posted by: Rip | July 20, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
“Isn’t it illegal to be president for more than 8 consecutive years? Someone might want to look into that.”
Maybe the Humble One’s already resigned to non-nomination/defeat, to staying in the Senate doing the usual “post-partisan” nothing for the foreseeable future, while he gets ready to run again NEXT time as a Republican.
Remember that Democratic turncoat Joe Liebermann was Big Daddy’s mentor . . .
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 20, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
The man already thinks he’s president. He doesn’t need us voters, he’s already annointed himself. He doesn’t think he is the servant of the people–he believes we serve him. He is the one we have been waiting for, after all.
His arrogance knows no bounds and that is what makes him so scary.
Posted by: Emily | July 20, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
or c.) he’s stupid.
Posted by: Gary | July 20, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
You tell ‘em Belle!
High fives kid!
that’s just so year before last though, ain’t it?
Posted by: daryl | July 20, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
He IS what WE are waiting for and have been waiting for!!
He IS the chosen one to bring this country out of the neocons rule and into the light as a beacon of hope for the rest of the world.
He IS the one that will end war. He will bring all sides together and talk like adults. See what they want and give it to them.
He IS the one that will change Washington and get rid of these idiotic republicans and their backwoods backwards ways. Fire them all.
He IS the one that will bring us Progressives back into power and change this Constitution. Just like it was always intended to. We no longer need to hunt for food so we can ban and outlaw guns and their ammunition.
He IS the one that will tax these oil companies to extinction.
He IS the one that will tax every corporation like they’re supposed to be taxed.
He IS the one that will give us free health care, the best in the world.
He IS the one to forever make abortions legal and free.
He IS the one that will forever remove god and anything to do with chrisianity OUT of goverment, off our money and out of our songs and sayings.
Obama YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: Karla T | July 20, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
“His arrogance knows no bounds and that is what makes him so scary.”
What’s REALLY scary is his organization’s attempt to buy the presidency, along with what’s left of the Democratic Party — and the creepy assumption that the World Messiah role comes along WITH it.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 20, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Rovespeak translation:
“Arrogant” = “Uppity”
Keep showing your true colors, y’all.
Posted by: Snarxon | July 20, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
“He IS the one that will change Washington and get rid of these idiotic republicans and their backwoods backwards ways. Fire them all.”
Karla, get a grip. He IS a Republican, on most things — the military, nuclear matters, women and children, etc. He’s traveling with a Republican, and claims to be “post-partisan”.
This guy can’t even TALK. His wisdom from the international campaign trail is written statements.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 20, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
“Arrogant = Uppity
Keep showing your true colors, y’all.”
Oh. Well, that “presidential” seal was UPPITY, then. There. You happy now?
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 20, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
“the objective of this trip was to have substantive discussions with people like President Karzai or Prime Minister Maliki or President Sarkozy or others who I expect to be dealing with over the next eight to 10 years.”
The Humble One’s objectives seem to be described differently for different audiences. Just a day or two ago, out the other side of his mouth, Mr. Change was bleating that he was going to “listen” . . .
If he’s NOT on drugs, maybe he OUGHT to be.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 20, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
I have said before I believe Obama is a manchurian candidate – this country will no longer be a democracy & he truly believes he will be “the leader” for 8-10 years or more – I’ll be dammed if I will be forced to wear that head to toe wrapping – will move somewhere else first…………..
Posted by: susiepuma | July 20, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
i sure would like to hear debate between pelosi and mccain—bet he would need to change his depends.she would singe his dumb repub butt
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
And just a few days ago, The Decrepit One was singing Dr. Phil’s praises. Now Dr. Phil is under the bus.
But keep on whining about Obama getting all the attention. Maybe if the Republicans had a worthwhile (not to mention interesting) candidate to offer, he might get some attention too.
Lime-green with ENVY is what you are.
Posted by: Snarxon | July 20, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Obama “the objective of this trip was to have substantive discussions with people like President Karzai or Prime Minister Maliki or President Sarkozy or others who I expect to be dealing with over the next eight to 10 years”. 2 terms of office are only 8 years, unless he plans to be the first President for a third term (after he ditches the flag pin, and rewrites the constitution, for his 57 states or so. Why vote folks?
Posted by: Anne | July 20, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
Obama hometown had 30 murders in just one weekend and the National Guard was going to be called out. Obama hasn’t done anything to reduce crime in Illinois but he wants to take on the NATION and the WORLD. You don’t see anything wrong with that?
Posted by: Ann | July 20, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
obama is learning—something mccain is incapable of doing.
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
SUSIEPUMA:
If you had seen the original movie “The Manchurian Candidate” you would know the likely Manchurian Candidate is McCain.
Posted by: Last Call | July 20, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
You racists are hiding behind any excuse to justify your real feelings … Sen. Obama chairs the Sen. Subcommittee on Afghanistan”
Guess I’m not a “racist”: I’m voting for Cynthis McKinney.
“Obama/Hagel 2008.”
Suuure. Get the Diebold guy on board? Riiight.
Barky’s got a passable talent for b-ball. He ought to leave it at that, and let his wife do the talking.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 20, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Barack Obama and the 22nd Amendment
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Posted by: The Pink Flamingo | July 20, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
“Obama hometown had 30 murders in just one weekend and the National Guard was going to be called out. Obama hasn’t done anything to reduce crime in Illinois but he wants to take on the NATION and the WORLD. You don’t see anything wrong with that?”
He didn’t “change” Chicago, but he wanted to play JFK at the Brandenburg Gate. He “chairs” a subcommittee on A’stan that never meets, and is all ready to send more troops.
I don’t care WHAT color he is, he’s tacky.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 20, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Goodness, Bush has problems putting sentences together, Obama not only has problems putting sentences together (witness the debates), he has problems with basic facts – how many states in the US, how many years in a term, who the president of Iraq is, what language is spoken in Afghanistan….pull the teleprompter and Obama loses his facts and his glib.
Posted by: c.r.p. | July 20, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
A lot of Presidents stay active in the International scene way after their term of office… Jimmy Carter is being doing that for over 30 years! You are all a bunch of Yahoos! Which Presidential Candidate do you know that doesn’t have a big ego or a lot of confidence? Tell me who? I would have more respect for you if you just came out and said it: “I’ll never vote for a Black Man… or a Brown Man or any Man smarter than me!” Well, McCain must suit you just fine!
Posted by: Harrygton | July 20, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
crp
we wont worry about mccain putting a sentence together—he cant remember the words
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
i know your canidate is a joke and everyone knows, the voters will do the right thing this time,They will elect a brilliant man a man that has good judgment. a man that will bring peace and prosperity back the things that this country as well as other countries despertley need and want after 7 long years of bush why would anyone want to vote MCSAME WE ALL KNOW HE BRINGS NOTHING MORE THAN THE SAME KEEP YOUR HEAD UP YOULL LIKE PRESIDENT OBAMA.
Posted by: angie | July 20, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Well, first it was 57 States and now we have 5-year Terms! Proves you can be senile even at 47!
Yup, he really does believe that he can change history, the future and even the present! The audacity of arrogance, a legend in his own mind! Do you want a president who speaks so “casually” as Jake puts it? Hmmmmm – could cause an international crisis! Be very, very scared….
Posted by: Beckie | July 20, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
rodney
I rather vote for someone that has his facts but can’t remember a word, than someone who doesn’t know his facts.
Posted by: c.r.p. | July 20, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
the repubs knew the trouncing they would get this election—so the picked the least valuable and dumbest they have—their answer will be—NO LOSS
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Obama’s ego it to explode. I could not stand his arrogance, and now all I can do is laugh at this self-made god. Somebody should him with a stick, and tell him his name is Obama not Jesus.
Posted by: amy | July 20, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Obama & the 22nd Amendment
THE DEM’S DAN
QUAYLE?<br style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-se…
Posted by: The Pink Flamingo | July 20, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Obama and his comrades demanding a time line on Iraq withdraw does not sound like allowing others to refine policies like he claims he wants to do now
Posted by: spiinner | July 20, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
I would like someone to tell me one piece of legislation that Obama has authored and had passed while an Illinois Senator or while a U.S. Senator. Not signed on, not voted for and taken credit for but actually did the work and accomplished something. Presently the only thing I know about the man is that he is for change. That I can see. Everytime he speaks he changes. Presently I believe the man is a well paid puppet for more Liberal, Socialistic types that are paying for a chance at the highest political office in the world. But I could be wrong. Just show me facts. Not attacks on my racial prejudices or my envy/jealousy at the well spoken man.
Posted by: richnj | July 20, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Rodney
Sudan/Somalia, Shiite/Sunni is a WHOLE lot more comprehensible to make a mistake than HOW MANY FRIGGIN STATES IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. A COUNTRY IN WHICH YOU ARE CAMPAIGNING TO BE PRESIDENT. OR HOW MANY FRIGGIN YEARS THAT FIRST TERM AND SECOND TERM WILL BE. AND THE FACT THAT BY LAW ONE CAN ONLY RUN TO BE PRESIDENT TWICE – 4 years each term X 2 terms = 8 years.
Posted by: c.r.p. | July 20, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Maliki agrees, as does Petraus: OBAMA WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG ON IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.
Posted by: Snarxon | July 20, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Why isn’t the media worried about McCain’s notoriously loose lips and poor grasp of the facts? He is lucky to remember who blew up the Marines in Lebanon versus the twin towers in NY (without his good friend Lieberman whispering in his ear).
Posted by: jhw539 | July 20, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
A USA Senator is not one of your drinking buddies… they do deal with Heads of States… in fact Sen. McCain bases his qualification for POTUS on his ancient status in Washington as a Senator. So if you want to be FACTUAL, Barrack Obama would be dealing with foreign heads of states for over 12 years: Four(4) years as a US Senator and eight(8) years as President of United States of America!!! Cheers!!!
Posted by: Harrygton | July 20, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
What’s scary is that failure is over there damaging years and years worth of relations with the United States. Somebody muzzle the fool.
“No Obama Idiot”
Yeah dude the current administration has made strides in destroying those years and years of relations. George W./Cheney and Condi are the fools that should have been muzzled.
John McCain was speaking of non-existant nations last week like Yugoslavia and Chekoslavakia, I don’t think that this guy knows where he’s at the majority of the time.
Obama ’08
Posted by: candi delight | July 20, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
some of these dinosaures need to get out of office—they think that they are in the 20s.mccain learned nothing in nam–and certainly learned noyhing in iraq—bomb bomb iran—-what a dipstick.
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
jhw539
do you know the difference??
Posted by: c.r.p. | July 20, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
i think Obama is going to get us into WW3 messing over their with Pakistan and Iran
Posted by: spiinner | July 20, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
angie
dont worry i have my repub proof helmit on—-HERE THEY COME LOUD BUT NTS
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Come on gaffs are not important.
What is important no candidate really wants to end the war. Obama said the surge would create more trouble. Most politicians voted for the war in Iraq. So what we are left with is dumb and dumber.
Posted by: spiinner | July 20, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
mccain in canada telling the world that we are living in an era of prosperity due to nafta—–talk about out of touch—–or he is that DUMB
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
If McCain were elected instead of Bush.
If McCain were elected instead of Obama.
If McCain were 10 years younger.
I seen people McCains age and they are better than most 20 year olds now coming out of the schools physically and mentally.
All these what ifs.
Both are not worth the paper a dollar is printed on
Posted by: spiinner | July 20, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
What we need is a real independent canidate. If Obama really were the candidate outside of the BOX he would not be part of the Democrat party money machine.
Now McCain is funny. Thats about it.
Both are typical politicians
Posted by: spiinner | July 20, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
rodney
Obama stated that he would repeal NaAFTA in the primaries…heard it as his lips moved in a debate. Then he tells a Canadian diplomatic: just messin’ with the American people, man.
Posted by: c.r.p. | July 20, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
CRP
THE PROBLEM WITH NAFTA IS THAT THERE IS NO EQUALITY OF TRADE WORKS TWO WAYS BUT IN REPUB EYES THAT MEANS THAT WE GIVE AND THEY TAKE—-GET THE PICTURE–SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
slick will sold us out —bushy is a dummy and mccain is dumber—obama may be the only chance we have—another 4 or 8 years of the past and we will be destroyed economicaly—too much going to the arabs and china and someone better get it under controll
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
I find the media too negative. They constantly are looking for the little mistakes to blow out of proportion. I find a lot of the reporting or what makes the news petty and irrelevant to the seriousness of what we are facing as a nation. This man has been campaigning for almost two years… on the road, probably not sleeping much. Walk a mile in his shoes. I think the media is stupid!
Let’s stay focused on what is really important to the lives of the American people.
Posted by: elise | July 20, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Sorry, Rodney, but I have no idea what you are saying. Trade is a two way event, but the Repubs what? vs. the dems what?
Posted by: c.r.p. | July 20, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
what is really funny that Democrats always have the News Media in their corner every presidential election which = free advertising. Democrats always outspend Republicans 2 to 1 maybe 4 to 1 this election then dare call the republicans the money party.
But Democrats lose more than 90 percent of the time. Americans can see through the smoke screen Democrats put up with all the lies and money spent on lying misleading ads
Posted by: spiinner | July 20, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
What is Obama telling them Muslims in Afganistan that he already won the election and they will be dealing with him for the next 8 to 10 years. Obama is so full of it. Is Obama trying to scare them into thinking he is the President now
Posted by: spiinner | July 20, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Geesh, Obama followers. Please, take a deep breath and understand the gravity of your leaders mistakes. 57 states in 1 to go, that’s the US for him. 10 two terms presidency in the countries he supposedly was born in and grew up in….
Posted by: c.r.p. | July 20, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
crp
what i am saying is that we are giving our money to these countyrs for goods and they buy next to nothing from us –and the repubs have done nothing about it and now mccain wants the same for columbia—we are going broke–it is called balance of trade we need.
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
It all comes down to whether or not you think we should continue the bush policies. If you think the war should continue indefinitely, while we spend $10,000,000,000 a month, and you think that bush has done well with the economy then mc-more-war is your man. If you think that it’s time we start to get out of iraq and do some positive things for the average American instead of just the top 1% then vote for Obama.
Posted by: pt | July 20, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
I judge a true leader by his ability to go against public opinion and end up being right.
John McCain went against popular opinion, pushed for the surge in Iraq, and as it turns out was successful. Obama opposed such.
Please someone tell me where Obama went against public popular opinion and ended up being right?
Maybe when he addressed the NAACP and told black people to stop multiplying like rabbits and take responsibility for their offspring? Spin it however you want, Obama talks down to black people and we all know it.
Posted by: TheTruthHurts | July 20, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Two lousy candidates but I think its going to be Mccain. I’m all for it because he’s the lesser of the two evils.
Posted by: JULIE | July 20, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
eyes
mccain is the biggest fake hero ever—what is his heroic deed—-he wrecked 4 planes and SUPPOSIDLY GOT SHOT DOWDN IN ANOTHER–TRY TO FIND OR SEE HIS MILITARY RECORDS–PERHAPS YOU WILL LEARN SOMETHING—-mccain was and is the family dummy and a hazard to others when in military.
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
(1) You’ve mis characterized the butterfly effect.
(2) Senator Obama was making in this case a statement that clearly showed he envisions himself winning two terms in office: this could be considered hubris definitely but not an international flap.
(3) Senator Obama did make a mistake in his Isreal speech @AIPAC. This was the only such time. Sen. McCain has made multiple references to Sunni/Shia mistakes, bombing Iran, wishing death by tobbaco on the country as a whole, and a campaign that refuses to disavow a surrogate saying all Muslims want to kill us. I bet that makes Egypt, Jordon, Saudi Arabia all warm and fuzzy.
Finally, I think you ought to fundamentally consider your last sentence. The idea being that Sen. Obama will cause an international incident and his history has a clear path of choosing wrongly on the world stage. When, in reality, it is Sen. McCain that has made such statments that were rabidly inflammatory on a world stage and Sen. McCain that has actually had world leaders rebuke his campaign.
But I never saw the post on that.
This was an irresponsible post IMO and not substantiated by the facts: you should have just called him out as an arrogant SOB destined for a an epic GREEK fall which seems to me to be the point hiding in the long post and what prompted this all.
Posted by: Rhoda | July 20, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
“t could also mean that regardless of whether he wins, he wants to develop a relationship with them in the Senate? Isn’t that also possible?”
It’s possible — if his plan is to retire after 2 years of his third term.
But Occam’s Razor suggests it’s highly unlikely.
More likely this is another Obama brain fart along with “57 States” and “10,000 dead in Kansas”.
What’s worse, accidently juxtaposing words or possessing the numerical grasp of a short-bus riding middle schooler?
One of Obama’s math errors and watch the world’s markets crash. Oops…change!
Posted by: JB | July 20, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Just because mc-more-war was a pow does not mean he should be president. The guy used to have a spine but now is nothing but a flip-flopper and a panderer. He’s also an OLD fart. The real straight-talker, John Murtha said that the Presidency is no place for an OLD man. There’s a reason they make pilots retire at age 60. mc-more-war needs to retire with his millionaire wife. (The one he had an affair with after his first wife waited for him to come back from the war.) Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | July 20, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
the surge in iraq is nothing more than an effort to make to make bushy look better before he is kicked out of office.
should call it the big flush-toilet style
hey jack spelling ok
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
“what is his heroic deed”
Ask Bud Day. That’s if you know who he is.
Posted by: JB | July 20, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Obama is brilliant? How so? When not delivering a teleprompted speech written
for him he seems to mumble, stumble
and blurt out rhetoric that seems to
tarnish that “brilliancy”. Obamabots
have lost critical thought. Let’s hope
there are enough of the “rest of us”
to at least give this pig in poke a
run for his money.
Posted by: oddfellow | July 20, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Why, yes, and I hope the media is also watching to see if McCain “kills any butterflies”. Maybe what Obama was too polite to point out was that he was surprised at the different level of attention given to his words and McCain’s words. I would assume the leaders of both the Czech Republic and Slovakia may find it somewhat disturbing when a possible U.S. president demonstrates that he is unaware that they are two separate countries with two separate leaders. Gee, I would think that’s the kind of repeated mistake that would be a horrible blow to Obama’s candidacy, wouldn’t ya think? And yet, Maverick McCain gets away with it.
By the way, the whole “refine” kerfuffle seems to be a consequence of the fact that Obama understands the definition of “refine” (“to make improvement by introducing subtleties or distinctions”) and the media doesn’t. Perhaps an English language class for journalists might be in order? It seemed to me that many in the media were confusing “refine” with “revise”. Two separate words with two separates meanings, folks. Look ‘em up.
Posted by: Lisa | Jul 20, 2008 5:00:11 PM
The media is accustom to dealing with lame brain idiots like bush and mccain. Barack is much sharper than the usual suspects the media usually covers.This maybe what is causing the confusion.
Posted by: Edward R. Murrow | July 20, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
jb
just answer the question.
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
TheTruthHurts, Before you use the moniker you are using you should check what the Truth really is! Barack Obama was against the war in Iraq from the very beginning, when everyone else including Mcshame believed there would be no house to house combat. He misjudged the biggest foreign policy debacle in his lifetime. 4000 Americans dead over one trillion tax dollars wasted, for what a Malakie government. He went to Iran and kissed Amadiajan. Whose friend do you think he will be when we leave?
Posted by: Vincent Campi | July 20, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
“A reporter noted that that is precisely what happens with the president,”
>> This is what happens when you send someone with so little experience. Dirt off my shoulder.
Posted by: JSF | July 20, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
VincentCampi,
I’m going to show you how the truth hurts you, in this case.
Your claim: “Barack Obama was against the war in Iraq from the very beginning”
The Truth (thanks to a clue from a friendly poster earlier this evening):
(From an interview with Tim Russert)
In July of ’04, Barack Obama, “I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don’t know,” in terms of how you would have voted on the war.
And then this: “There’s not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush’s position at this stage.” That was July of ’04
Vincent, please come back and tell me how much the truth hurts now that your messiah has been destroyed.
Posted by: TheTruthHurts | July 20, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
I judge a true leader by his ability to go against public opinion and end up being right.
John McCain went against popular opinion, pushed for the surge in Iraq, and as it turns out was successful. Obama opposed such.
Please someone tell me where Obama went against public popular opinion and ended up being right?
Maybe when he addressed the NAACP and told black people to stop multiplying like rabbits and take responsibility for their offspring? Spin it however you want, Obama talks down to black people and we all know it.
Posted by: Edward R. Murrow | July 20, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Edward MUrrow,
See my previous post. Please come back and tell me how much the Truth Hurts.
Posted by: TheTruthHurts | July 20, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
please tell us mccains position—-
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Rodney,
McCain’s position was identical to Barack Obama’s position at the beginning of the war – BOTH were for it.
McCain and Obama’s positions began to diverge when McCain supported the surge and Obama favored retreat and defeat. McCain was right to stay, Obama was wrong
The Truth Hurts my friends, there is no shame in crying.
Posted by: TheTruthHurts | July 20, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
When Barack makes gaffes, it’s a sign of his brilliance.
If that’s going to be Obama WH line to the rest of the world, better stock up on an 8 to 10 year supply of popcorn.
Posted by: JB | July 20, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Would this time frame apply to all 57 states? Plus the one he’s going to?
This one is not the one I’ve been waitng for.
Posted by: SM | July 20, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
What we will have won is another ally in the Middle East, when we have so few.
And the point of the surge was to win because bailing would have resulted in:
1. Sectarian violence
2. Civil war
3. An emboldened Al Qaeda
4. GENOCIDE
The Truth Hurts Rodney, I know it does. It’s time for you to grow up and realize Obama is just another con man.
Posted by: TheTruthHurts | July 20, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
The Truth Sets you Free,
It seems it is time for you to be set free. Do your research, the quotes given are accurate and conducted during an interview with Tim Russert. Obama did not try to deny making them, instead he claims he lied and didn’t mean what he said.
Let it out boy, let all those tears out. The Truth Hurts, don’t I know. I once believe in the man named “Obama” as well, but now I’m smarter.
Posted by: TheTruthHurts | July 20, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
If you’re going to pretend to post as me, at least get my name right. :)
And I’m sorry, but straight from the horse’s mouth:
In July of ’04, Barack Obama, “I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don’t know,” in terms of how you would have voted on the war. And then this: “There’s not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush’s position at this stage.” That was July of ’04.
Posted by: TheTruthHurts | July 20, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
“as well as i that that this is …”
Wow, Rodney, that’s the first time I ever saw someone stutter over the computer. What language are you fluent in, so that we can have a literate conversation?
Posted by: Jaibones | July 20, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
you still did not answer once again–how many by us.
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Ive read (a) and (b) but what about (c)?
I don’t think it’s needed to crack out the chaos theory for a simple math glitch.
We’ve just misunderestimated his tenacity.
Posted by: Agnostic | July 20, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
i challenge anyone to get and publish mccains military records–from before nam forward .
Posted by: rodney | July 20, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Being positive and talking positive are wonderful qualities in anyone running for office. Senator Obama is an amazing Democratic candidate who will be a wonderful president. We need to get our country out of the mess it is in and Obama has the intelligence and the talent to get right to work fixing what Bush has done to harm us all.
Posted by: Vicki | July 20, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
The media is so hypocritical; they latch on to a candidate and then make an art of over analyzing every word. Why are so many reporters even following Obama on this trip? Reporters have all day to think, write and have someone edit their story; the candidate has to answer questions constantly from reporters hoping to elicit a gaffe, get a scoop, or turn a minor issue into a major one to increase circulation or viewership. I was surprised that several times Logan seem to try to put words into Obama’s mouth–trying to shift into a more conversational mode than a formal interview to pull him off gaurd?? So he’s actively imagined himself being president?? How shocking!You think McCain hasn’t. That Hillary didn’t?? Get real. If any candidate at this point did not actively see themselves in the office, I’d be concerned. They don’t start planning long term strategy Nov. 4th, they’re doing it now along with thinking of cabinet members, etc. I don’t think it is unusual when they occasionally drift into speaking as if they are in the office. They are only human. At the end of this campaign we should give out media awards in various categories for the most riduculous reporting. The list would be long.
Posted by: Can we all get along | July 20, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Being all Bush’s third term McCain is really pathetic. McCain has had his words read back to him on Meet the Press and was caught saying exactly the opposite of what he is saying now. That is the two-faced truth about McCain and all republicans in politics. They were so anti-war when Clinton was president, and now they just love war to death. McCain is an old elitist who knows nothing about the average person’s life. He does not deserve to be president when all he could do was rubber stamp every rotten thing Bush ever did.
Posted by: Vicki | July 20, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
My goodness Obama is making Bush to look great ..
he is truly an arrogant guy and they said Bush was arrogant.
it’s funny how things come around …for 8 years liberals made fun of Bush and now they will get someone who is worse than Bush.
No wonder they say history will judge Bush very good, because they will have President obama to compare….. so sad
Posted by: JOHN GALT | July 20, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Im in amazement at why anyone would want to vote for mccain!!
anything you can say about obama or clinton is just as bad with mccain and then he takes it a step farther.
Posted by: melissa | July 20, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
john- fool me once ….. um shame on on you. fool me…. once you arent going to fool me again!!!
Posted by: melissa | July 20, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Melissa,
It looks like you ignored the post and went right to the spin. Obama needs people like you that are ready and willing to overlook his complete lack of experience in favor of the risk he creates for our nation. You go girl!!
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Obama — he had 20 years of substantive discussion with Reverend Wright, and finally ditched the guy. I wonder what he will do with 8 to 10 years of engagement with world leaders.
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | July 20, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
The Rovebots are out in force.
“Black is white.”
“Freedom is slavery.”
“IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.”
Yeah, heard this before.
Posted by: Snarxon | July 20, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
I don’t understand why average americans who support republicans can’t see republican are screwing them. Republicans only can about the votes of average americans. They quickly forget about them once in office. Then it’s on to protecting big oil and other big corporations. While average americans suffer with their “mental recession/depression”. Repubulicans only care about greed.
Posted by: Edward R. Murrow | July 20, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
WestCoastMessenger: And McCain had 20 years of substantive discussion with Dr. Phil Gramm before throwing him under the bus twice in one week.
The let ‘em eat cake attitude remains.
A “nation of whiners”? Speak for yourself.
Posted by: Snarxon | July 20, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Melissa,
It looks like you ignored the post and went right to the spin. Obama needs people like you that are ready and willing to overlook his complete lack of experience in favor of the risk he creates for our nation. You go girl!!
========================================
Obama — he had 20 years of substantive discussion with Reverend Wright, and finally ditched the guy. I wonder what he will do with 8 to 10 years of engagement with world leaders.
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Jul 20, 2008 10:57:02 PM
Save the Rev. Wright crap. It won’t work on americans who have been reamed by Bush and the republicans. Now it’s time for the little folks to speak come November.
Posted by: Edward R. Murrow | July 20, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Very quietly, Obama’s policies are being implemented now. We are talking with Iran about their nuclear program, we are winning support for a timely withdrawal in Iraq, and we are gearing up for a push to crush the Taliban and shore up Afghanistan. Obama’s ideas are being embraced and giving cause for hope. I must say that these developments all reflect very positively on Obama.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | July 20, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Any idiot who takes shots at Bud Day is not worth being taken seriously on any issue EVER.
Bud Day is only the most decorated veteran in the United States. He is the true definition of the word “hero.”
It sickens me to hear leftists attack this great man and dismiss him as a “Swift Boater.” You can live in your alternate reality where John Kerry was a wronged war-hero attacked by right wing liars, but you don’t get to smear Bud Day.
Bud Day RIGHTLY opposed John Kerry because Kerry LIED about the conduct of our troops. Kerry slandered hundreds of thousands of combat veterans in an attempt to further the anti-war movement.
This was why Bud Day appeared in ads criticizing Kerry. Bud Day is a patriot.
I encourage ANYBODY who reads this post to please read anything you can on Bud Day. You’ll understand why the left wants to shut him up.
Posted by: stickety | July 20, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Very quietly, Obama’s policies are being implemented now. We are talking with Iran about their nuclear program, we are winning support for a timely withdrawal in Iraq, and we are gearing up for a push to crush the Taliban and shore up Afghanistan. Obama’s ideas are being embraced and giving cause for hope. I must say that these developments all reflect very positively on Obama.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | Jul 20, 2008 11:17:30 PM
Yep, Bush and Mccain remind me of bosses who take credit for the work of people under them. Even though they had involvement with the work in question. This is probably how Bush and McCain got thru college, copying other people.
Posted by: Edward R. Murrow | July 20, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Anyone who would besmirch the integrity of a man like Bud Day is an idiot. I’ve had to honor of meeting Col. Tom Kirk, who was a POW with John McCain and Bud Day for five and a half years in Vietnam. You Libs wouldn’t know courage when and if you saw it. These men have it naturally and are to be commended for their bravery and service to our great country. John McCain is worthy of being our next President, just by his military service alone.
Posted by: Mary | July 20, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
What smear? The magic hat smear?
Or the factual assertion that in a few months the man was awarded ( at least one by himself to himself) Purple Hearts without spending so much as an overnight stay in hospital?
That’s pretty magical. Where is the smear?
Posted by: Rosie's Cooze | July 20, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
If Bud Day truly has integrity and courage, then why did he join the slanderous Swiftboat attacks on John Kerry’s military service?
Because he was mad that Kerry opposed the Viet Nam war?
Are the LIES he told about Kerry an example of his integrity? His courage?
Please explain.
Posted by: Snarxon | July 20, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
I’ve met Bud Day and Col. Tom Kirk, two POW’s who were in the prison camp with John McCain in Vietnam. The three of them have more courage than you Libs would ever begin to imagine, much less have yourselves.
Posted by: Mary | July 20, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Mary: And I’ve met the Queen of England, and she has more dignity than to defend a group of liars who smeared a decorated patriot’s service to his country FOR CHEAP POLITICAL GAIN.
SHAME ON YOU.
SHAME ON THE SWIFTBOATERS.
SHAME ON BUD DAY.
Posted by: Snarxon | July 20, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
I’ve met Bud Day and Col.Tom Kirk who served with John McCain and were POW’s together in Vietnam. These brave men have more courage than you blasphemous Libs would ever know the meaning of. You are cowards. They are the real heroes.
Posted by: Mary | July 20, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Wow, another “inartful” comment from the brilliant Obama. 10 years? WOW
Had Bush said this Obama’s acolytes would be gleefully pointing oit what a stupid chimp Bush was.
If McCain said it, the acolytes would be floating the word “alzheimers”
You’re all being sold a bill of goods.
Posted by: Trump | July 20, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
I dunno Snarxson, maybe there’s a reason Kerry never released his full military records even though he pledged to do so?
Posted by: Trump | July 20, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Oh this is a damn shame! You guys have the power to report substance but instead you choose to report a 2 sec slip up. Mins of substance and you end up with “8-10yrs” which could be interpreted in different ways. Again, damn shame!
Posted by: mr me too | July 20, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
And I’ve met the Queen of England. And she doesn’t lower herself to applaud liars who slander decorated war heroes FOR CHEAP POLITICAL GAIN.
YOU CALL THAT COURAGE?
Posted by: Snarxon | July 20, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
I dunno, Trump – McCain won’t release his records. What do you think he’s trying to hide?
Must be something serious, right?
Posted by: Snarxon | July 20, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
“Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.”
Posted by: Tom J | July 20, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
“A “nation of whiners”? Speak for yourself.”
Posted by: Snarxon | Jul 20, 2008 11:13:23 PM
______________________________
As McCain responded at the time:
“Gramm doesn’t speak for McCain!
MCCAIN speaks for McCain.!
Unlike the other candidate, McCain accepts responsibility for what H E says!
I LIKE that in a President!
Posted by: EYES WIDE OPEN | July 21, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
When considering the refusal by John McCain to release all of his military records, let’s list the military record of Barack O’Carter……….Yep, nothing there…….
Posted by: Jayhawk | July 21, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
“COUNTRY BEFORE BROKEN DOWN PARTY!!!”
I couldn’t agree with you more. The ‘broken-down party’ in question being the Geriatric Obsolete Party.
YES!!! AMERICA DESERVES BETTER!!!
Posted by: Snarxon | July 21, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Dear Americans,
As a foreigner may I ask you for a favor?
POTUS is not only President of USA but also a world leader.
Can you elect a better candidate for us this time?
I mean Smart and Open minded man.
And you know who he is.
from a world citizen
Posted by: seiko | July 21, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
He IS what WE are waiting for and have been waiting for!!
—Define “WE.” The man did not exactly sweep his own party, who are only roughly half the electorate.
He IS the chosen one to bring this country out of the neocons rule and into the light as a beacon of hope for the rest of the world.
—The chosen one? Really? Not, say, the hoping-to-be-elected one?
He IS the one that will end war. He will bring all sides together and talk like adults. See what they want and give it to them.
—He will give all sides what they want? What if they want conflicting things?
He IS the one that will change Washington and get rid of these idiotic republicans and their backwoods backwards ways. Fire them all.
—Only the voters can do that, not the President.
He IS the one that will bring us Progressives back into power and change this Constitution. Just like it was always intended to. We no longer need to hunt for food so we can ban and outlaw guns and their ammunition.
—Only the states can do that. Do you really think most of the states want to amend the Constitution? Or by “change,” do you mean “throw under the bus?” And is this really supposed to convince most Americans to vote for him?
He IS the one that will tax these oil companies to extinction.
—Then where will the oil we need come from? Is it okay if people freeze to death without oil to heat their homes?
He IS the one that will give us free health care, the best in the world.
—There is no such thing as “free.” Someone will have to pay the doctors. Someone will have to pay for the medicine. Someone will have to pay for research to make new medicines, and corporations won’t do that once their taxes are too high to make it profitable. Who will pay, and how much?
He IS the one to forever make abortions legal and free.
—See above.
He IS the one that will forever remove god and anything to do with chrisianity OUT of goverment, off our money and out of our songs and sayings.
—Out of our songs and sayings? The First Amendment guarantees that the American people can sing or say pretty much what they want, and Congress can make no law to stop them.
Obama YES WE CAN!!
—Well, no. Many of these things you just can’t do, whether the Chosen One is President or not. Sorry.
Posted by: VKI | July 21, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Stay tune for the august suprise
against Obama…it’s going to be fun..
Republicans said:…Obama was the best
present for november elections…..
I cannot reveal the august suprise…
sorry about that but it will be on
the news before the democratic convention…….
Posted by: ROBERT | July 21, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Hey Seiko.
I will vote for McCain in november.
Obama is a nightmare…….untested,
unexperience,unfit for commander in chief…….
Posted by: ROBERT | July 21, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
ROBERT: And just wait for the August surprise against McCain!!! It’s gonna be GREAT!!! All I can tell you right now is that it’s gonna sink McCain like a torpedoed Swiftboat!!!
BELIEVE IT!!!
Posted by: Snarxon | July 21, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
“And it’s important for me to have a relationship with them early, that I start listening to them now, getting a sense of what their interests and concerns are.”
__________________
IS THE ELECTION OVER ALREADY?
(I left out the part about eight to ten years; I didn’t want to embarrass the followers of this particular megalomaniacal candidate.)
Posted by: questioner | July 21, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
questioner: You’re RIGHT! How DARE Obama PREPARE HIMSELF to face enormous global problems!!!
GEORGE BUSH NEVER DID!!!
You must be kidding me.
Posted by: Snarxon | July 21, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
do you enjoy your condition today under bush?and the standing of US from the rest of the world..
both mcsame.
Posted by: lito | July 21, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
He’s a butterfly alright.
Posted by: Christie | July 21, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
Oh Obama, so arrogant and full of himself, you won’t get elected comes November. He doesn’t even have the nomination yet and he’s talking about when he’s president. Obama don’t you realize that the more you talk the more we hate you, plus the more people you turn off?
Posted by: NoToObama | July 21, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
Why doesn’t anyone bring out the fact that McCain was not the only senator for the surge ? General Petraus said ” I need more troops ” and McCain just said ” You know George I think that we should give him what he wants” That is so stupid that he is trying, and getting away with taking credit for it. Congress was discussing sending more troops a month before McCain finally woke up.
Posted by: Ron | July 21, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Obama is the best!! Not just for the next 8 to 10 years, but for many more!!!
Republicans would love to have Obama on their side.
Republicans would love to have an intelligent strategist like Obama.
Republicans would love to have a young strong man for president like Obama.
Republicans would love to have a true Christian like Obama.
Republicans are so arrogant that cannot accept their failure in producing results in the war against terror or in the economy. And what they offer us instead?
Twin Towers fallen, 4000 killed in America and 4000 more killed in Iraq…loss of jobs and homes. What else can we hope for?
Republicans would love to have Obama as their presidential candidate…but he is a democrat.
Posted by: Andy | July 21, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
Posted by: Ron | Jul 21, 2008 1:32:38 AM
McCain is now a Senator.
When Petraeus asked for more troops, McCain supported him…. and that was all he COULD do.
And that was exactly what he should have done… even though it was politically incorrect!
That’s the difference between Obama and McCain.
McCain will go out on a limb for something he believes in… like the surge.
Obama will support something only if it’s politically expedient.
Posted by: eyes wide open | July 21, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
questioner: Talk about POMPOSITY. You’re only complaining that Obama won’t stand still while you throw stones at him.
HE’S TOO SMART FOR YOU – THAT’S WHY YOU HATE HIM.
DON’T HATE THE PLAYER!!! HATE THE GAME!!!
LOL!!!
Posted by: Snarxon | July 21, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
>>> Snarxon | Jul 21, 2008 1:39:54 AM
I don’t hate him.
But I see through him!
And I choose not to vote for him!
Posted by: eyes wide open | July 21, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
eyes wide open: Yeah, like BEING AGAINST A DISASTROUS WAR FROM THE BEGINNING.
Principled.
Not like John McCain’s “I was against Bush’s tax cuts for the rich before I was for them.”
OBAMA IS THE BETTER CANDIDATE. PERIOD.
Posted by: Snarxon | July 21, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
“Obama is the best!! Not just for the next 8 to 10 years, but for many more!!!
….and what is this?
Is one of Obama’s changes going to be a complete revision of the constitution and it’s amendments?
BE CAREFUL WHO/WHAT YOU WISH FOR!
Posted by: questioner | July 21, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
eyes wide open: You see through him? Who are you, KRESKIN? LOL!
You sound like George Bush saying he could see into Vladimir Putin’s heart. Bush knew was a good guy. That worked out GREAT, right?
OBAMA IS THE BETTER CANDIDATE.
Posted by: Snarxon | July 21, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
“a complete revision of the constitution and it’s amendments?”
YOU MEAN LIKE BUSH AND CHENEY FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS?
WE CAN’T HAVE THAT!!!!
PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH!!!!
Posted by: Snarxon | July 21, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
I would definitely trust my survival on Obama. Obama is a true patriot, like many in the black community.
Blacks came to America as slaves…they worked under the worst circumstances. They were abused, killed, raped.
We only have declared blacks our equals some years ago…
But blacks stayed. They stayed in a country that hurt them for so long.
Blacks not only stayed but they joined our armies when their heard the call to defend our country.
I do not know if many of us whites would have stayed…I bet some would have looked for a better place to stay. But black did stay.
Obama stays even when there are signs of racism against him and his family.
That is what true patriots do. That is what Obama is doing today.
Obama a true patriot.
Obama the president for a better America.
Posted by: Andre | July 21, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
snark:
“a complete revision of the constitution and it’s amendments?”
You DO know, do you not, that a President under our Constitution as amended, CAN ONLY SERVE TWO TERMS?
I don’t quite understand what YOU were talking about, but THAT’s what I was talking about.
As for BUSH and CHENEY, I think they should both be impeached!
Posted by: eyes wide open | July 21, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
Our troops will come back home with
victory and honor…..The surge is
working…..
Surrender is UN-AMERICAN……
Americans NEVER SURRENDER…..
JOHN McCAIN COMMANDER IN CHIEF…’08
Posted by: ROBERT | July 21, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
“If you build it, they will come.”
Forward thinking…believe what you seek in thought and in idea and it will ccome to pass.
Being positive and stepping out on faith
is what Obama is doing. Some are misinterpreting confidence as arrogance.
One can only understand confidence when they possess it themselves. So stop hating Obama because you don’t have what he has– work on yourselves.
Posted by: clarity | July 21, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
Why do the press and some reporters have to dumb themselves down to report something that is not there… Did anyone notice he said he EXPECTS to deal with them… not I WILL BE DEALING… its an EXPECTATION (i.e. the act of expecting, to look forward to, to anticipate), after all he’s running for a position to deal with them isn’t he? I’m sure this is part of the machine that made “refine” and “redefine” to mean the same thing
Posted by: mr me too | July 21, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
Snarxon.
McCain was a POW…….he’s a war hero,
very patriotic,experience in foreign and defense policy….ready to be a
commander in chief from the day one…
Posted by: ROBERT | July 21, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am
hmmmmm: McCain said in his memoir that he gave the Viet Cong the names of the Green Bay Packers front line as his squad mates.
In Pittsburgh he told them it was the Steelers.
Is that Alzheimer’s?
Or just PANDERING?
Posted by: Snarxon | July 21, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
both candidates are disappointing, but a few quick points, if Bush mispeaks (I don’t like Bush either, and never voted for him) it’s a big joke, everyone piles on him and he’s considered a moron..Obama misspeaks, and the mean republicans are picking on him.
oh and world citizen, your defense of the “57 states” mistatement doesn’t work, for two big reasons, a territory is not a state, and, even to give you that…well, the US actually has more than 7 territories, lets see, guam, midway, puerto rico, american samoa, virgin islands, federated states of micronesia, marshall islands, northern mariana islands, and palua. now, thatd be 9 territories, so, by your argument, Obama should have declared that we have 59 states..but wait, can’t forget DC, so does that mean the us has 60 states? or perhaps we should stick to the facts, and agree that Obama mispoke on something as elementary as how many states are in the Union?
Posted by: Dave | July 21, 2008, 4:57 am 4:57 am
Time to define “refine.”
Those that went bonkers of Obama’s use of the word “refine,” did not know the defintion of the word, or hoped the public would not know.
Main Entry: re·fine
Pronunciation: \ri-ˈfīn\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): re·fined; re·fin·ing
Date: 1582
transitive verb
1 : to free (as metal, sugar, or oil) from impurities or unwanted material
2 : to free from moral imperfection : elevate
3 : to improve or perfect by pruning or polishing
4 : to reduce in vigor or intensity
5 : to free from what is coarse, vulgar, or uncouth
intransitive verb
1 : to become pure or perfected
2 : to make improvement by introducing subtleties or distinctions
— re·fin·er noun
Posted by: MrUniteUs | July 21, 2008, 4:58 am 4:58 am
One has to wonder if their hper-sensitivity to the butterfly effect accounts for so much of the inarticulateness of the Presidents Bush. The two have always struck me as weighing the impact of their own words as they speak them.
Posted by: Bill45 | July 21, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am
The rationalizations of Obama’s latest gaffe are nearly as amusing as the gaffe itself. The fact is the man often does not engage his brain before he opens his mouth. Obama’s sycophantic disciples seldom notice or care because they focus on how he says something rather than on what he actually says.
Posted by: Kandor42 | July 21, 2008, 6:37 am 6:37 am
Butterfly effect. Perfect metaphor for the man. Obama is as insubstantial and inconsistent as one.
Posted by: Joe Doaks | July 21, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am
Snarxon.
McCain was a POW…….he’s a war hero,
very patriotic,experience in foreign and defense policy….ready to be a
commander in chief from the day one…
Posted by: ROBERT | Jul 21, 2008 2:19:45 AM
Sure, every inmate in our prisons is qualified to be warden using that logic. Sorry, having experience does not automatically enhance your judgment. Just ask Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and McCain.
Posted by: Edward R. Murrow | July 21, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am
Why does it feel like Obama has already won the election?
Seriously folks, will the media stop with the “Magical Mystery Tour” and get back onboard with reporting the news! Does Obama take interviews in the john? C’mon, I don’t care what ass his wipes to hedge his bets to WH08. It is boring… uneventful… and ‘Click’… (enjoy the summer while we still can)
Posted by: Ben | July 21, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am
What scares me is the band of “foreign policy experts” following Obama around telling him what to say. What does this remind you of, folks? Just because the guy is a dem, doesn’t make it better. We need someone who has the chops, and we’ve instead nominated a guy that everyone thinks they can control. Wonderful, just wonderful.
Posted by: a reader in ga | July 21, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am
ROBERT: Victory and Honor are two words that are inappropriate to use when speaking about the Iraq war. There was nothing honorable about our INVASION, yes, indeed, it was an invasion, and “victory” is a concept that should be applied to the Iraqis themselves, if and when they succeed in attaining the kind of government they want. It will never be a victory for us. This horrible mistake will go down in the history books as one of the worst acts of aggression we have perpetrated not only on another country, but on ours as well.
Posted by: heartsick | July 21, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
“A reporter noted that that is precisely what happens with the president, he can change world affairs with one word, finely calibrating your words is what happens.”
Uh-huh. I know, I see so much parsing of McLame’s words everyday, why should I be surprised they are doing it to Obama?
Except, even “bomb, bomb, bomb”, Czhekoslovakia (more than 3 times within the last month), confusing Sunni/Shia, etc etc he never gets called on it, EVER. If McLame were a Democrat, his candidacy would have been dead and buried by now.
Posted by: Radha Hussein | July 21, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am
Aren’t we all tired already of all this political bs? All this politicial speculation and discussion on issues that aren’t issues at all. Majoring in the minors? These cookie cutter professional politicians who want more power, and more public spotlight? Enough already. All this mindless, meaningless chatter about nothing. All for the sake of having something to chatter about. If you want to elect a real leader then vote for Ron Paul. If you’re a mindless, political blob then vote for Obama or McCain.
Posted by: Don | July 21, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am
Maybe he’s saying more than eight years because Michelle will then run for President, following the example of you-know-who.
Posted by: Nicola Timmerman | July 21, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
“What scares me is the band of “foreign policy experts” following Obama around telling him what to say. What does this remind you of, folks? Just because the guy is a dem, doesn’t make it better. We need someone who has the chops, and we’ve instead nominated a guy that everyone thinks they can control. Wonderful, just wonderful.”
Ok, so whats the logic here? He’s on a foreign trip and he has foreign policy experts following and advising him… still trying to understand… Oh you want him to be like Hillary that said she doesn’t rely on economists for Economic related issues. Its time to elect someone that listens, thats the reason everything proposal he has put forward wrt Iraq and Afghanistan seems to be falling into place. Lets try to think properly b4 we talk or post
Posted by: mr me too | July 21, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am
Did anyone else notice Obama’s posture as he sat with President Karzai? He might have been tired, but slouching in a chair is no way to look “Presidential”.
Posted by: tiredoldman | July 21, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
Snarxon.
McCain was a POW…….he’s a war hero,
very patriotic,experience in foreign and defense policy….ready to be a
commander in chief from the day one…
Posted by: ROBERT | Jul 21, 2008 2:19:45 AM
Sure, every inmate in our prisons is qualified to be warden using that logic. Sorry, having experience does not automatically enhance your judgment. Just ask Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and McCain.
Posted by: Edward R. Murrow | July 21, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
First Obama thinks he is JFK now he thinks he can run for more than two terms like FDR.
He dismissed the 4th amendment with his FISA vote why not the 22nd amendment. Afterall he thinks he can do anything with that overinflated ego.
Time for some humble pie–I hope Obama will learn from Bush that arrogance can be very dangerous. America can’t afford another president driven by blind ambition.
Posted by: cindy in nc | July 21, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
The Audacity of Vanity that is Barak Obama marches on.
Posted by: Thank God for Karma | July 21, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
OK I’ve had it with the elitist, arrogant comments. PEOPLE: dO You want a Pres who doesn’t look the pare? All world leaders excet Bushy Baby who looked and behaved like a contraty Bumpkin, look and are arrogant. Who would respect them if they didn’t look like someone who would be respected. Arab and other nations are very aware of this and are most likely thinking Americans are stupid for griping about if he’s elitist or not. They are! what does America want? Overalls or cargo shorts. Give me a break. I don’t want to be embarrassed in front of other nations by an old #### who is anything but Presential. Don’t y’all think at all that World Leaders look at him as an old man who they would have retired to the pasture a long time ago. Granted he has been in the Senate far longer. Too long. He doesn’t look or behave Presidential. Obama does and that’s all there is to it,
Posted by: meneither123 | July 21, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
“Stay tune for the august suprise”
Whatever it takes to keep this “post-partisan” fraud from buying the Democratic nomination.
“We were distracted by Iraq”, opines the corporate construct who based his whole candidacy on having given a (pre-written) speech about Iraq while in the state Senate.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 21, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Meneither123-
So your criteria is that a guy just has to LOOK the part?
Is that a serious comment? A serious and informed citizeny is crucial.
Posted by: Trump | July 21, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
Going back to the “57 states” gaffe, are we? I’m not about to read through ALL of these posts, but I would like to respond to that.
Bowing to the conspiracy theorists, there are indeed 57 ISLAMIC STATES worldwide.
Maybe those rumors of Obama secretly bein a Muslim aren’t that far off, after all.
Whaddya think, eh?
Posted by: Nick in Virginia | July 21, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
To put the Butterfly metaphor into perspective, Obama is a chrysalis and his handlers exposed Obama to soon and Obama will die from lack of maturation.
Obama needed at least another 10 years in his chrysalis…
No butterfly perior for you Obama.
On the other hand, we have H.R. Clinton a true phoenix and she is in the process of rising again…
See you in Denver
Posted by: TerryDo | July 21, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
“Is Obama planning on using the job of president as a stepping stone for ruler of the universe?”
Kind of like using the Illinois senate seat as a stepping-stone to the US Senate, which he’s used only as a platform for running a “post-partisan” campaign for the DEMOCRATIC nomination.
Meanwhile, he still talks with his mouth full of food, slouches with Karzai, and says “me and Michelle”.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 21, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Ah and so it goes..OBAMA is so easy to distract! DISTRACTED, OBAMA’s OFTEN USED WORD. All that guy has is words, hope and the ability to change his mind often!
Posted by: HP Boston | July 21, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
How about the comment that we are losing in Afghanistan? I am sure that is what the troops there need to hear from a guy who wants to be President. Also, that is just what the doctor ordered for the families of those who have given the ultimate sacrifice in that conflict. Obama is a disgrace.
Posted by: Robert Marley | July 21, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Hussein already considered himself to be President. For 8 to 10 years he says. But this is the guy who said we have 57 states. Remember when the media made such fun of Dan Quayle because he added an E to potato? This doofus can say anything but thats ok.
He is a DEMOCRAT don’t you know?
RW
Posted by: Ruth Werre | July 21, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
“clean up this foreign policy mess”
Did the humble one “clean up” anything in Chicago? Nooo. Did he “clean up” anything in the US Senate (other than change his nuclear cleanup bill to Exelon specifications)? Nooo.
He’s a charlatan with a big smile, a mob-arranged mansion, and a lot of money raised under false pretenses.
If the Democratic “leadership” installs this fraud as the nominee, the Dems are done.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 21, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
He will be elected and reelected, and like, South American dictators, he will hand pick his successor, who will do exactly what he is told until he has enough power of his own.
Or, he is already preparing us for the fact that he will be unsuccessful, and is not promising to do what he claims in two terms. Maybe he will use the “don’t change horses in midstream” argument and suggest that we do away with the two-term limit so he can continue to lead us to victory.
Posted by: Doris | July 21, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
“He will be elected and reelected, and like, South American dictators…”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 21, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Hmm… Complexity/chaos theory …
The metaphor is right but second order and third order systems dampen feedback so the butterfly actually can’t create hurricanes or even local storms. (This isn’t from Bradbury, BTW. See Edward Lorenz.)
In unfiltered systems, the effects of such feedback are unpredictable. A typical result is to tear the system apart (reduce to chaos) much as pointing a microphone into the amplifier rips apart the speakers right after ripping apart your eardrums.
The press filters his statements. They won’t allow Obama to self-destruct. As with every gaffe made so far, it will be spun to his advantage by contextualizing it.
Context is the reason butterflies haven’t destroyed the planet so far.
Posted by: len | July 21, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
“The press filters his statements. They won’t allow Obama to self-destruct. As with every gaffe made so far, it will be spun to his advantage by contextualizing it.”
At a certain point, the confused crusader’s “gaffes” add up to something more than verbal slips, jet lag, anti-smoking medication, dyslexia, etc.
With “we were distracted by Iraq”, critical mass may be here. WhatEVER Jonathan Alter and the boys at MSNBC do.
As for butterflies, Barry/Barack ain’t no Cassius Clay/Muhammed Ali.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 21, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
The press filters his statements. They won’t allow McCain to self-destruct. As with every gaffe made so far, it will be spun to his advantage by contextualizing it.”
At a certain point, the confused crusader’s “gaffes” add up to something more than verbal slips, jet lag, anti-alzheimers medication, dyslexia, etc.
With “we were distracted by Obama”, critical mass may be here. WhatEVER Sean Hannity and the boys at FOX do.
As for butterflies, John Insane McCain ain’t no Douglas MacArthur or George Patton.
Posted by: Belle is a Starr in Hell | July 21, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
@belle: True, but that is a cumulative effect, not a butterfly effect. The cumulative effect is arithmetic: 1 + 1 + 1 = Lose. A butterfly effect is 1 to the power log of the world press = self-destruct.
He won’t be allowed to mess up with the three anchors on the plane. Do note however that his campaign has a long history of suppressing his past mistakes (eg, The Surge Won’t Work), scrubbing his language (removing the references on his web page), and denying access to unfriendlies.
I’m hard pressed to remember when a candidate has needed this much protection. JFK used to sneak out to the ice cream shop with his kids. Obama lives in a steel fishbowl.
Posted by: len | July 21, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
“John Insane McCain ain’t no Douglas MacArthur or George Patton.”
I dunno: give him a cigarette holder and a pearl-handled revolver and he’d be close — closed than Barry/Barack is to JFK, anyway.
McCain won’t be the Republican nominee: sickness or something will intervene — then, according to who’s the Democratic nominee (August), the Republicans will nominate (September) accordingly.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 21, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
“True, but that is a cumulative effect, not a butterfly effect. The cumulative effect is arithmetic: 1 + 1 + 1 = Lose. A butterfly effect is 1 to the power log of the world press = self-destruct.
… I’m hard pressed to remember when a candidate has needed this much protection.”
NO candidate has ever needed so much “protection”/press assistance/rewrites/explanations.
So: HAS he self-destructed yet? Or is there MORE to come?
Meanwhile, let’s hope the press is as concerned about “racism” relative to Cynthia McKinney’s campaign as it was with Barky’s.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 21, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
When a Republican makes a verbal gaffe, its called a gaffe! When Obama does it the DBM writes a hilarious essay about the butterfly effect. This is pretty simple–unscripted, Obama is as verbally skilled as Bush. He is a gaffe machine, probably because of his inexperience (I love the one about the 57 states). Dump the bias Jake and call it like it is!
Posted by: Don | July 21, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
everywhere b.o. travels a basketball game breaks out. his advisors must be some obscure round ball team. i guess that’s safer than letting him say anything unscripted, he can’t dribble and watch his blackberry at the same time. who knows, maybe this will keep him from being DISTRACTED with IRAQ, even after our heros’ are kicking ass there. GOD BLESS THE U.S. TROOPS.
Posted by: pappy | July 21, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
I find it funny when Obama speaks wrong there are excuses made for it, but if McCain mis-speaks he is called old , losing his mind!
But the problem is Obama is not mis-speaking he is flopping!!
Obama FlipFlop Obama makes a good tune!!
What religion was Obama before he converted to Christianity, anybody know?
Posted by: spock | July 21, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
“He IS the chosen one to bring this country out of the neocons rule and into the light as a beacon of hope for the rest of the world.”
The Chosen One? Well at least his messiah credentials are still being touted.
“He IS the one that will end war. He will bring all sides together and talk like adults. See what they want and give it to them”
Yep, I agree that he’ll help wipe Israel off the face of the earth too. Since that’s what they want, and he’ll give it to them. Will we let them kill the Jews, or move them somewhere after obliterating their country?
“He IS the one that will change Washington and get rid of these idiotic republicans and their backwoods backwards ways. Fire them all.”
Yeah, once there’s a Democrat majority things will change, like after 2006 with the Democratic Majority… nothing changed. Oops?
But he will remove Republicans from power without asking the electorate I guess. Good to know he’ll take absolute power and end Democracy in favor of totalitarian rule… or is that not what you meant?
“He IS the one that will bring us Progressives back into power and change this Constitution. Just like it was always intended to. We no longer need to hunt for food so we can ban and outlaw guns and their ammunition.”
Right, who would need a gun to defend themselves from criminals or an overreaching Government. You should die waiting for the police like a good prole.
And he’ll amend the Constitution, taking the Presidential role in the amendment process which is… nothing. As a Senator he can propose an Amendment, but the President has no role in Constitutional Amendments. He’d better get cracking before he’s elected…
“He IS the one that will tax these oil companies to extinction.”
HOORAY, subsistence farming and starvation for everyone. Stop the economy and go back to the dark ages.
Lets end agriculture and go back to family plots with no oil based machinery.
You first.
“He IS the one that will tax every corporation like they’re supposed to be taxed.
So, they’ll get taxed more, raise prices, and pass those taxes on to you. Good. I’d hate to have money that the government didn’t take away from me. Finally the Government will take all my money. Will they give me back enough to live on if I ask nicely for some of my money?
“He IS the one that will give us free health care, the best in the world.”
Like Canada. Waiting 18 months for a hip replacement is “the best in the world”. But at least once you end the oil economy you’ll have plenty of funds for this… wait, maybe not.
“He IS the one to forever make abortions legal and free.”
Yep, even if an abortion fails and the child is born alive, he’ll support your right to go ahead and kill the little bugger for living. Actually, he’s already supported that.
And free? So a doctor’s time, labor, and materials mean nothing; and you have every right to force them to work for you for free.
When did we enslave doctors? I didn’t realize that if we want something, we can just force people to give it to us for free without being called thieves and crooks for that.
Can we make politicians, judges, and lawyers work for free first? We’ll try doctors after we see how this works out.
Maybe you can. But that doesn’t mean you should.
Posted by: Gekkobear | July 21, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
“NO candidate has ever needed so much “protection”/press assistance/rewrites/explanations.”
No and that is his peculiar aura: as if he were some sort of fragile doll both mentally and physically needing protection from the world. Maybe butterfly is right because he is definitely living in a cushy coccoon.
It is the weirdest image of a man running for President since Nader.
Posted by: len | July 21, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
“as if he were some sort of fragile doll both mentally and physically needing protection from the world.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 21, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
“It is the weirdest image of a man running for President since Nader.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 21, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
I agree with Chris | Jul 20, 2008 5:10:33 PM. I think some people just take Obama so literally.
Posted by: Kim | July 21, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
If Obama doesn’t win, chances are he will be Senator for… 10 years!
Perhaps he is just showing some humility by implying if he doesn’t win the election, he will still be dealing with these issues for 10 years as a Senator.
Posted by: Ryan | July 21, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
YAY!!!!!
GECKOBEAR!!!!
Posted by: eyes wide open | July 21, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
How about the comment that we are losing in Afghanistan?”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And wasn’t Obama in charge of a committee to which he gave the attention of a gnat…. which was CENTERED on Afghanistan?
How does he get away with such stuff?
How come he still doesn’t know how many states there are in our Union?
Oh… I remember!….
He’s young and green!
Posted by: between the ears | July 21, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
This guy is such a wannabe. He really hasn’t done anything to merit serious credibility as a president. Having three anchors follow him around? They must be bored out of their minds! Will they have the guts to admit the “emperor has no clothes?”
Posted by: JKIR | July 21, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Obama has such a cocky attitude.
How dare he act as if he’s already the President.
He’s a two year senator and a Chicago politician.
Posted by: Al from NJ | July 22, 2008, 5:18 am 5:18 am
Arrogant Obama.
I am totally embarrassed of Obama and what he stands for.
This is the first time in my life that as a Democrat, I will not be supporting our Party.
Obama has such poor credentials and associates, I can’t be proud of him.
Actually, my whole community is embarrassed of him.
Posted by: Al from NJ | July 22, 2008, 5:26 am 5:26 am
The hope and change candidate us showing his true colors. The hope is in government and the change is toward communism.
Whatever happened to the soveriengty of the individual that this country was founded on?
Posted by: arielsadmirer | July 22, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
It’ll probably take him every minute of his 8-10 years in office to visit all 57 states.
Posted by: Killer of Giants | July 22, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
“If Obama doesn’t win, chances are he will be Senator for… 10 years!
Perhaps he is just showing some humility by implying if he doesn’t win the election, he will still be dealing with these issues for 10 years as a Senator.”
Posted by: Ryan | Jul 21, 2008 4:12:31 PM
Ryan, didn’t you get the memo? Obama isn’t a senator any more.
From his news conference of July 2, 2008:
“I wasn’t saying anything I hadn’t said before, that I didn’t say a year ago or when I was a United States senator.”
Posted by: creeper | July 22, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
He’s looking more and more like Bush every day. That media-generated image of him being intellectual is beginning to flake off. When I count to three it is time to wake up. One … you are waking up. Two… You are awake. Three…. Wide awake, totally alert, refreshed and relaxed. Who the heck is that NAKED MAN? Well I’ll be darned! The EMPORER HAS NO CLOTHES!
Posted by: Deborah C | July 23, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
If Sen. Obama had been running for office say, 30 years ago when the MSM did whatever they wanted none of this would have ever gotten out. Remember how they covered up JFK’s serial infidelities? But the MSM is dying out fast and there are www sites out there with more readership than many major city newspapers and so the efforts by the MSM to anoint Obama messiah will fall flat. As long as Sen. Obama keeps talking the hole gets deeper and more folks everyday are seeing that the Senator is simply not up to the job.
Posted by: John the Fierce | July 23, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Obama is on the Senate Foriegn Relations Committee. Even if he loses in November, he will be “dealing” with these foriegn leaders.
The Corporate-Owned Media is desperate, clutching at straws to avoid discussing issues.
Discussing issues might hurt McCain and jepordize the Corporate Tax Cut McCain promised them.
Posted by: Ken | July 25, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
2 Things – The Butterfly Effect is not what Ray Bradbury Describes, but refers to something as light as a butterfly flapping its wings changing weather patterns all over the world.
Also, Carter still has relationships with world leaders, and he hasn’t been President for decades. Like it or not, weather or not Obama is elected, he is going to be a player on the international stage for a long time. I find the 10 year number modest.
Posted by: David | July 30, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am
Will the real Obama please stand up
Posted by: Mike | August 2, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Tapper. This is just dumb. Let’s say he gets elected. I don’t think anyone plans to be a one term president…sure there are exceptions. That said once you’ve been a two term president it is likely that you will continue to meet with world leaders on projects not related to the White House for the rest of your days. Especially if you still relatively spry as Obama will be after 8 years. Did you not notice the hand in hand buddy team of Old George Bush and Clinton? Please try to write something real and useful instead of all this character assassination bs. It’s transparent and it STINKS.
Posted by: CityzenJane | August 5, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm