Bayh and Nunn on Obama Veepstakes

Senator Evan Bayh is from Indiana. Barack Obama is from Illinois.

Steve,
WE are all Hussein.

That is a major thing that bothers me. Why wont barack debate McCain at a meeting. I mean all barack’s supporters are calling McCain old senile and lossing his bearings. I know Barack took many beating from Hillary in debates (she’s good on her feet) but McCain is no Hillary so why wont Barack debate him?

Patience – the debates will happen when the conditions are right. I am so looking forward to them. Obviously BO is as well. He shines here. Keep you pants on honey!!

Just follow the schedule and you will see that it is full and it is summer so most people aren’t even paying that much attention. Both candidates are looking forward to then and for sure both are prepping. If McCain does as well as you think he might I may give him a second look but this Coloradoan so far sees Obama as my choice. He will most likely carry my state.

No actual Clinton supporter would vote for McCain or withhold their vote from Obama. If Obama loses, Clinton’s career is finished and women politicians in general are set back years with ‘proof’ that “A woman scorned will kill even her own party out of petty feminine spite” – death for a politician where the party’s strength is everyone’s strength (how is Senator Clinton’s health care going to fair with a president McCain versus a President Obama looking to capitalize on Clinton’s constituency to make a 60 seat majority in 2010?). Not to mention feeding the misogynistic “women don’t have the even temperament needed to have a finger on the button.”
The “I’ll vote for McCain before Obama” never were real Clinton supporters – neither Clinton nor her supporters are stupid and the results of such a position all clearly indicate that only Republicans could possibly benefit from such a move.

The candidate who is behind wants debates and the leader does not, this is not at all new or nefarious. Debates are free publicity and a hail Mary pass chance for a gaffe – the trailing candidate is short on cash (the un-regulated cash funneled through ‘non-coordinated’ groups on both sides) and has much less to lose from a stupid gaffe (sighing into the microphone).
The same thing held true in the primaries – Senator Clinton did not want debates until she was behind. This is simple good political strategy and the kind of tactical thinking I’d want from either party candidate asking to represent the US’s interests on the world stage (the President is also the #1 diplomat for our interests).

J: You obviously have not been paying attention. BO is often critized because of his elequence and supposed lack of substance. He strikes me as a very thoughtful speaker in interviews, carefully articulating his positions. Besides, how could he have graduated from Harvard Law Magna Cum Laude and looked “like a fool”. McCain is the one who often seems ackward on the stump but I don’t hold it against him. I am an independent and am glad we have such a clear choice.

Obama is only ahead by 3 points! He knows he’s not a shoe in, so grow some
—- and show up for a town hall or debate. McCain may be the underdog, but not for long if Obama keeps losing in the polls…he should be WAY AHEAD at this point. AMERICANS DON’T TRUST HIM.
Hillary supporters are FREE to vote however their head or heart direct them to. McCain and Hillary are centrists, so they have alot in common from an American value standpoint. Obama just doesn’t do it for me with his exotic background and “community organizing” skills.

Rachel: You seem very thoughtful. Have you read either of the candidates books or their biographies. I have been inspired by both men. However, after learning of Obama and his life narative, I have 100% trust that he would act in the interests of the average American (ie. the bottom 98% of us who will see him cut our taxes more and provide more infrastructure and opportunity). McCain is a great war hero, however graduating at the bottom of his class at Anapolis and watching him perform with innumerable gaffs makes me think of W all over again. Because of his Keating experience and associations with Phil Gramm it is clear he will favor corporations over our interests. I know with BO’s economic all star advisory team, Warren Buffet, Paul Volker, Steve Jobs, et.al. he is sure to make the necessary corrections we need. This housing crisis can be traced directly back to Phil Gramms actions. He should be shot. Glad McCain fired his as his chief economic advisor last week.

Deb, “community organizer” is not an epithet in my book. I realize McCain is stronger as a commander in chief in most voter eyes. But I just finished reading “Team of Rivals”, a wonderful biography of Abraham Lincoln, who was arguably finest and strongest president. It is actually remarkable how similar their personal traits are. And Lincoln even had less “experience” than BO in politics.

J: It seem a little odd to think he should be further ahead when just two months ago he was behind. McCain has a very good brand as a maverick in a change year, favorable press coverage that exceeds Obama’s, a cake-walk primary, and very strong security credentials. I have not seen any reputable analysis that suggests this is a pushover election. It seems silly to consider it a mark against Obama that he isn’t ahead further.

Posted by: jhw539
It shows Hillary +8 over McCain if she were the nominee which is better than what Obama is running. This should have been a pushover election. If he really believed what he ran on he wouldn’t be flip flopping from what he said in the primaries. You all have been duped into thinking he was all about change. I haven’t seen any proof of that. The same old stuff we see from other politicians.

In the state polls Obama is ahead by significant margins. Just today Obama is ahead in California by 20 points. Three new national polls came out today, and Obama is ahead by an average of six.
In regards to the town hall meetings, the McCain camp wanted 10 town hall meetings, Obama offered a proposal with 2-3. The McCain camp hasn’t counteroffered with a compromise but yet McCain is going around telling people that Obama isn’t willing to meet with him, which just isn’t true!!
All of this nonsense from the comments above that Obama has refused to debate with McCain is just a bold-faced lie!!

truth seeker,
He said he was the change candidate. Show me where he is changing anything. Same old bs that other politicians play. He’s nothing special.

Besides, McCain takes weekends off and works 9-5 like most tycoons so his puffery that he wants 10 debates is a fraud. He couldn’t do them. If he tried he probably would have a coronary and we don’t want that.

Bayh is a creepy Clinton camp follower. That gang of thugs continued to divide the country long after it was clear that the creepy Clintons had lost. Ed Rendel is in that camp, too.
The creepy Clinton plan is to some how disrupt the Democratic convention. They should be kept on a leash until after the election.
Posted by: disambiguates
I hope they do because the two candidates we have now aren’t worth 2 cents. I am not sure which one flip flops more. Neither of them have shown me anything.

truth seeker,
I am not voting for either of these two fools. Neither of them have shown me anything. What makes you think Obama is something other than an ordinary I’ll tell you what you want to hear politician. If you think that all Obama’s money is from people like you, you are naive.

Ya’ll have a good night I am off to work :). We might disagree on things but sometimes that’s a good thing!

J: glad to hear you are not voting.
Posted by: disambiguates |
When did I say I wasn’t voting?

She is well educated, from a well respected politcal family, speaks well and is quick on her feet. She is 60 and would add some gravitas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius
One of the things I like most about her is she is cool and to the point. I am sick of what passes for smart – “cute and smart alecky” – I am sick of political cuteness.

J: Clinton has not been subjected to any serious negative campaign attacks as Obama has been. It is absurdly naive of how politics work (no one likes negative campaigning but it clearly works) to think she would be doing anywhere near as well if she were subjected to the rightwing smear machine pulling out all the dirty 90′s laundry Obama didn’t want to soil his image flinging.

Bayh has a bit of the smart alecky politcal cuteness about him. Carville and Begala are the worst for that sort of crap. This rude behavior and name calling is no substitute for intelligence. Carville called Richardson a judas on national TV. Did he think that would win votes? I digress.
Please get us some reasonable, thinking, candidates for the VP slots.

J: Clinton has not been subjected to any serious negative campaign attacks as Obama has been. Posted by: jhw539
LMAO…she has been more than vetted in the media. Where have you been? Everyone knows the Clinton background. It’s about time they started vetting Obama, too little too late, they should have done it in the primaries.

truth seeker: nice talking with you. You raise the level!

J: “she has been more than vetted in the media” I was talking about being subjected to negative political attack, not this meaningless ‘vetting’ talking point. You appear to have no grasp of what negative campaigning is. I suppose you think we won’t hear anything about Pastor Wright now that issue has been thoroughly “vetted.”
Your deliberate ignorance of this subject suggests that you are just another Republican trying to stir the pot. As I said before and still strongly believe, neither Senator Clinton nor her supporters are as deliberately ignorant and naively irrational as you are pretending to be.

Barack Obama will have to choose someone who will not out shine him. Well he is still looking.

Jennifer his whole campaigan has been about change?? changing things in washington and changing the way politicans campaigan, etc, No he never said he wasn’t a politican he said he wasn’t a typical politican which so far he has turned out to be. He is going to change washington? he’s recruited many of bill clinton’s administration thats not change(I love the clintons but I dont see how you can rail against washington and then employ the staff people who served on the clinton adminstration). He talked so bad about hillarys healthcare plan put filers out and everthing now he’s adopting part of it which is great but a bit hypocritical. I also think that there is a little more to the statidum thing than accomodating more people. I think it may be to drown out any protesters. I am waititng to see if there is a vote in Denver however symbolic it maybe its only right. I dont hate barack he is smart he just hasn’t presented a strong enough case for me. I think my main problem is I dont see anything that he can get done as president that my choice HRC couldn’t. I mean I look at key things that people praise Obama for… not for voting for the war.. that’s all fine and good, but lets be truthful people were screaming for revenge and vengance after 9/11 but the main thing Obama is monday night quarter backing he never had the difficult decison of acutally casting a vote for or against the war. Obama could well end up getting my vote in November, but so far I am not gunho about him. Again I must point out how refreshing it is to be able to post an opinon without beign called a vile name, thank you for the civil posts.

Jennifer, we will have to see what happens. You make good points. I still feel noone know what Obama would have voted when the vote for the war was cast cause he didnt have to cast it. It’s fine to bring the clinton surrogates and ex staffers in, but then don’t talk about changing washington, because these people have been part of washington for years. Obama tried to present himself as something other than when he is basically just the same as except for his skin color(this is coming from an african american woman). If Obama is elected I pray he keeps his promises and I think one of the only ways he will be able to do that is to put some of those washington insiders and great brawlers in his cabinet.

I’m white and Canadian at that,I shouln’d say anything about your contry,but all you Americans have to do is-look at the past,under the Republican Regime.
A Contry such as USA.Rich-Advenced-Big-and Strong,and the people are suffering with Poverty,WHY? Just take a closer look at the past (8) Years,and you will find out WHY.You don’t need a crystall ball to tell you.
If (OBAMA)gets in as President he would
try hes darnest to be the best,just to
prove that the Blacks are not stupit as some people think.I would give OBAMA my vote any time.
But junt in case you don’t want him,
please send him in Canada,We sure could
use him badly,to strait’n out our affairs.
PS.
You have a smart man there,take advantage of him,to strait’n America
and the World.
JOHN IN CANADA.