Clinton Supporter Angered By ‘Other Women’ Obama VP Talk

ALL CLINTON SUPPORTERS MUST UNITE TO DEFEAT this unqualified, presumptuous, pandering
false prophet pretend.
Hillary 12!! she is real change

What gives Caroline Kennedy any credibility to be a co chair to vet VP candidates? Her claim to fame is based upon her parents legacy none of which she or her late brother ever really lived up to. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend would have been a better choice at least she has served in office of Lieutenant Governor for MD.
Obama is an ego maniac. He will not choose Hillary for that reason. Choosing any other woman is actually “tokenism”.
Obama’s campaign is consistently plagued with drama of the negative sort and just plain nonsense. Expect more of the same if he wins.

Lanny Davis is an insulting embarrassment, so I don’t know why you would quote him and suggest he has any credibility. Also, if a woman candidate were to be chosen I don’t think it would be to “placate” Clinton’s female supporters. That kind of statement is pretty insulting in itself. Where does Davis get that idea?

I doubt Obama would pick a female other than Hillary. But I would hope that he chooses someone with foreign policy experience.

Jennifer Parks and Lanny Davis have tons of nerve.
During the campaigning, their view seemed to be, “we want a woman stand up for us.” So now, you’re telling us that you lied. It wasn’t about breaking barriers. It was about your buddy Hillary, getting the nomination. Why don’t you just speak plainly instead of handing the public this nobler than thou attitude.
“I haven’t met either one, but Hillary is more qualified.” How do you base that line of BS?
I’m not convinced that Obama believes this crap you’re spewing. I’m sure he’s selecting some one who can better the cause, not your personal agenda. . . . .
You seem no better than the Republicans when it suits you!

Obviously, Obama is intimadated by the Clintons popularity, he only has his “guarded” speeches to back him up; no substance, Obama is truly a cut-out of Madison Avenue, props and all.

so Hillary Clinton is the only woman that Davis has respect for….how demeaning is that? women unite against this character

If Mr Obama picks Ms Clinton then he will lose. We don’t want to see, hear, or even look at another Clinton anywhere near the White House. Enough is enough. This is not a dictatorship of the Clintons.

The comments by NielPA, Samantha, Tamrya, and Krist appear to have been written by the same angry, bitter, and delusional faux-feminist (In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if all the comments were written by Lanny Davis).
I will say, however, that were our positions reversed… had Mrs. Clinton won the nomination, I would feel similarly. I could never bring myself to vote for John McCain, but equally there is absolutely no way I would vote for Mrs. Clinton.
There’s enough going on in my life, however, that I have no time to accumulate such reservoirs of bile to spew forth at every opportunity. By this time I would simply have shrugged my shoulders and decided not to vote in the presidential contest.

Did everyone see Barack Obama rally the support of Europe to help America in our fight terrorism? Is there any other person, of either party who could get Europe to come out in a pro-America, U.S. waving rally like the one we saw in Berlin.
While John McCain was riding around in a golf cart offering his small minded sniping attacks on Obama, Barack Obama was avoiding any direct criticism of his rival or the Republican administration. He only talked about America and our relationship with Europe.
When I think of John McCain, I think of his opposition to the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. This woman discovered incontrovertible proof near the time of her retirement that she had been systematically discriminated against by her male superiors. She proved it in court, only to have it overturned by a right wing dominated Supreme Court.
How could they, or John McCain, demand that Lilly Ledbetter file in court within a 180 days of being hired, when she didn‘t know and could not have known the facts that prove she was discriminated against?

After the crap the Obama camp and the DNC threw at the Clinton’s, Hillary should definitely not accept the VP slot if offered, that would really ruin her chances in 2012. Obama is a loser, with a puffed up ego problem, and the American people are just beginning to catch on; no substance, just alot of fluff and puff.

I meant “pro-America, U.S. flag waving rally.”

Obama Protrayed the Clintons as racist, there are still hard feeling there, just liek he is protraying McCain as a racist now.. Look for for Clinton to help Mccain behind the scene. The Clinton Legacy is RUINED because of the Obama Race Baiting

Lanny Davis and Geraldine Ferraro long ago showed their true colors and intent to put their personal preferences of candidate over Americans’ interests (both love being on Fox News now). Who cares what either of them think. They don’t care about the real issues – healthcare, economy, ending the war, housing and gas crises – they just want Hillary as the nominee and if they can’t get their own way, will support McCain. Some Democrats, huh. I wonder how Ferraro would have felt if the tables had been turned on her when she was on the Mondale ticket. So much for loyalty to the bigger issues. Shame on both of them – don’t waste your time even mentioning them. they are useless.

Larry,
Just like an Obamabot spewing names when someone is against your limp noodle candidate. I did not vote for Clinton by the way.
Don’t eat too much candy and kool aid. It is not good for you. You look for “hope” in the mirror not CNN.

Just another tidbit of info for you….read about 3 weeks ago an article by the Associated Press. Which state do you think has the “worst” state pension fund? Illinois, the worst and severely underfunded. Now this is “change you can believe in.” If he can’t even help the people in his own state how do you expect this man to help this country? He will be too busy being a rockstar.

Larry said “Actually I voted for George Bush. I am an independent.”
Nah, I doubt it. Sounds like you vote for the candidate that media stuffs down your throat. Obama is the Bush of 00′
“I am not a kool-aid drinker.”
ARE YOU KIDDING????
“Granted. in retrospect my vote for Mr Bush was questionable.”
KOOL AID GULP. OH yeah. Thanks idiot you and the dummies who voted for Bush are the reason we are in this mess and now you are voting for another media darling with ZERO experience. Why can’t idiots like you learn from your mistakes?
“As a veteran, I felt he was stronger on Defense. We all make mistakes.”
Nothing wrong with mistakes. You are just an idiot when you repeat them.

To Larry Mcd
Are you saying that because many of Democrats who are unhappy with this candidate, should just go away, and not give their opinions? No one is wasting their time on your candidate, guess only the Obama kool-aid drinkers are the only accepted posts allowed. Get a grip. As Obama says, the working class are just “bitter” people. . . etc. .. and according to Obama followers, anyone who doesn’t support him are just “bitter.” WHat a joke.

Niel – “No one is wasting their time on your candidate.”
Um, John McCain for one sure seems obsessed with him. And Clinton supporters seem to be spending a lot of time on Obama, too.

NielPA,
not only are non Obama supporters bitter, bur according to the Obamabots they are also racists. And I am a black person who the Obamabots on here have called a racist. When I say that I am black, I am told I must be self loathing. They are a joke and so is their race baiting candidate,then again Kool aid comes in a rainbow coalition of colors…So do iPods!

I’d have to go with John McCain at this point. Mr Obama is just not qualified. I question his judgement. I don’t want that evil man Reverend Jeremiah Wright, his pastor, anywhere near the White House.

Dumb and Dumber , er Larry and Paul did you get lucky is that Kool aid stain on your mouths?
Virgil, nope Obama=Bush 2000. No doubt about it. Unexperienced, Media darling, horrible debater, weak on foreign policy, arrogant, two daughters, lost the popular vote, the list goes on and on.

Why wait for 2012!
PUMA for the sake of democracy. There’s no shame in loosing at the convention, it would be honest and much better than the theater that are being pushed down our throat right now.
If Dems wanted a nominee in June, they should hold their convention in June. Conventions are political vehicles, powered by willpower and the votes of many. Making them a wastland for empty balloons gain no one.

Give it a rest you Clinton freaks: that “drinking the koolaid” remark is getting tiresome.
So, given your inexplicable –and inexplicably rabid– support for Clinton at this late stage, may I ask what you guys are drinking.
He is the nominee. Deal with it. Aren’t just about all who seek the presidency arrongant pricks? Why single out Obama for what is typical behavior?
Or is it just because it is Obama, a certain kind of typical behavior instantly becomes a pathology?
You guys are sick.

A vote for Obama is a vote for Carter’s 2nd term and a dum dum’s 3rd term, Or a disasters 1st term and last term. Any way I look at it, NOBAMA.

That Lanny Davis and whoever assume that picking Sebelius would be done only to “placate women” just shows what a sexist Lanny himself is.
Sebelius has way more elective experience than Hillary, her latest post being a governor, in her second term. She also lacks Hillary’s baggage (i.e. Bill) and is on friendlier terms with Obama than is Hillary, which may make it easier to govern. That’s in contrsat with Hillary as VP, which Zbig Brezinski said Hillary’s VP office would be a “government in exile and a government in waiting, which would make for a bad atmosphere”.
Hillary has no executive government experience (except for her failed health care fiasco), and her largest non-government exec experience was running her campaign, which had numerous shakeups, ended up over 20 million dollars in the red, and failed despite being an “inevitable” winner.
I would be pleased with either Hillary or Sebelius as VP, but I’m sick to death of Hillary die-hards trashing other qualified women.

There is a lot of things Lanny doesn’t understand. That’s what happens when you don’t have a lick of common sense.

“clinton supporters should unite to retire your stupid candidates debt…”
Why should they when your guy on the kool aid stump told the stupid Obamabots to pay for her debt? “you know the drill” I think those were his words exactly. Her debt is being paid by the Obamabots.

I wonder why she was in debt at all. Oh yeah, because she managed her money so badly.
Thanks Virgil. I completely missed that two-daughters connection. I thought Samantha was just trashing Obama, as opposed to comparing him to Bush in that post.

“clinton supporters should unite to retire your candidates debt…”
bhrandon,
i seldom agree with you, but I’m with you on this point 100%
instead of trying to dictate her presidency how about putting some money where your mouth is?

I think it’s funny how people credit Obama’s appeal for why 200,000 people came out in Berlin to hear him speak. Does any one actually know what the main appeal was — free beer, free concert, free food
(http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200807/1217183039.html). People need to stop giving him all the credit for why so many Germans were at his speech.

no one but lanny davis cares what lanny davis thinks. the man sputtered some of the lamest anti-Obama and pro-Clinton arguments of 2008 and went over to Fox News to become the sort of floppy baby they can hold up as a typical Democrat. it’s not news that anything less than total victory for Clinton and utter defeat for Obama angers him. that’s his job.

“Samantha” -
Please, enough with the RNC talking points already. Most, if not all, of them are BS – but you knew that. Black female? If you say so, Karl.
You right-wingers are so fond of hyping “Bush Derangement Syndrome” (BDS), but you’re a clear example of ODS or NARDS (Not-A-Republican DS). Of course, that assumes, perhaps mistakenly, that you actually believe the crap you’ve written. But even Karl Rove knows that most of his talking points are BS; he just doesn’t care.

Keep in mind people that, no matter how qualified she is, Hillary comes with baggage. His name is Bill Clinton, former President. Not only would Obama have Hillary gunning for his chair at every oppertunity, he would have the former President second guessing him and playing Monday morning quarter back. The man is not stupid enough to make an already hard job virtually impossible. Hillary for attny general or better yet Senator. Since the current Liberal Lion (Senator Ted Kennedy)is ailing at this time. Teddy has managed to build himself a very good career in the senate and has probably done more for people in that poistion than some Presidentnts have done.

You raise an interesting question, Jenny. Who would Obama appoint to what? While I’m sure someone will start throwing out Wright and Rezko (as though the other side couldn’t make Hagy and Keating jokes), I wonder what an Obama cabinet might look like.
Attorney General will be a big pick, after what’s happened recently in the Justice Department. I think Obama needs a truly apolitical person – maybe a Republican, maybe a Democrat, but someone with a reputation for not being a hack. Bill Bradley? Oohhh, here’s a name from the past. How about bringing back Louis Freeh?

Obama and Hillary simply can not work together. It’s easy to see that.
Can’t people stop dreaming and be realistic for a minute.

Department of Energy – how about T. Boone? That would be interesting. But more than likely Obama will go with a party person here. I just hope its a good one, because this department will most likely have a higher profile.

Paul -
I hope you were joking about Louie Freeh. If he had been spending more time on counter-terrorism, and less time on trying to nail Bill Clinton for screwing around with Lewinsky, the country might be in a whole lot better shape.

I will hold my breath to vote for Obama if he chooses Hillary Clinton to be his running mate otherwise I will vote for the war hero, McCain. Obama requests Hillary to campaign the next two months for him in three state Nevada, Florida and Ohio and she agrees to do for him without complaining or asking any favor. Look at how he treats her and I’m very disappointed in his judgment and his ego. I admire her a lot because her kindness and forgive Obama’s supporters during the primary saying she is liar, bit*, racist and ect..

If Obama choses anyone other than Hillary as VP, then this insures Obama’s loss in November. Pleeeezzeee pick someone else, Obama! America does not want an empty suit in OUR White House!

I wish that Obama and his minions would just disappear. I say to all women lets defeat Mr.I cannot win an election I must steal them. McCain is a much better choice. I do not want my girl anywhere near that ugly loser. I hope he is defeated so bad that he must quit and move to an deserted island. Anyway we should make him produce his real birth certificate bet he isn’t even American. He couldn’t pull off the Primaries. This is what happens when we allow children to vote. I say make the voting age 21 again. Kids are not mature enough to vote. I also hope Moms and dads stop paying for their lazy children to attend college. I told my kids if they wished to continue to live off of my dime that they had a choice vote for McCain or stay at home. They will not vote for the freud and live off of my dime.

I wish, I wish, I wish…sounds like an R. Kelly song. Face it, Obama’s not going away. And, for that matter, Hillary may not re-appear. Get the new Ludacris song, at get a feel for the disgust of her!!! Shoot a PUMA, or run it over…whichever way…make it dead!!!

Matt Jeff,
NICE to remove my post because I spoke the truth about Blacks who don’t support Obama. Have you media people NO SHAME in fawning over the self-professed messiah? Where’s the objectivity in journalism anymore? You’re such a joke!

Unless obama picks someone more qualified than Hillary…the Hillary supporters are going to be upset.
and as far as I can tell there is only one person on the list right now (and maybe Dodd) who could be called more qualified.

Samantha,
AMEN!!! You’re a mirror image of me and many more Black females than these idiots give credit for. I too (and my whole family) will be voting McCain for the very same reasons.

@ Samantha: Thank you for sharing. As this election continues, I see more and more African Americans not voting for Obama. Maybe Jessee Jackson was right and now Al Sharpton is supporting Jackson’s comments about Obama. Obama is in this for himself…he is a liar and empty suit. Its good that not all Africa Americans are following this Pied Piper down the road of destruction!

James, are you speaking about Hillary or your golden cow Obama– who is made in God’s image?

The creepy Clintons have always been anti-women. Look what they did to the poor women who Bill abused. I will be glad when the whole creepy Clinton caravan has moved on. Including the terrible sycophants especially Lanny Davis and Wolf Blitzer.
The idea that these women are more qualified than Hillary does not even enter into their small minds. Sebelius is a two term governor who has held executive experience roles and is from an old political family.

I should say the VP unlike the President does not have to inspire and lead with judgment as much as they need to bring judgment and balance.

Any other woman is better than Hillary !!

Yep, Obamaberry koolaid supply is going to be in a surplus, pretty soon. So drink up that koolaid, there’s plenty. I hope the koolaid taste’s good because the koolaid is all you are going to get from the empty suit. The tasty Obamaberry koolaid will be poisoned and Obama will throw his koolaid drinkers under the bus to get elected. He’s already doing it.
Or maybe the ObamaBerry koolaid drinkers will get tired of trashing their integrity and self respect by trying to cover up for the koolaid vendor called Obama. Even that tasty koolaid will get nasty by November.
Yep, I feel sorry for the ObamaBerry koolaid drinkers, NOT!

Obama/Pelosi 2008? Bwahahahaha

I have sign’s in the back end of my car that read’s simply and I believe in my conviction’s. I changed my democratic voter registrations to independant, because the DNC no longer stand’s for what it was. It is truely a male dominated keep the woman bare foot and pregnant like the republican party. (toungh in cheek) I am discusted with the DNC. The sign’s simply say
WRITEHILARYIN.COM In November I will for the first time write some one in as President instead of voting party lines. Obama is not my candidate and what I find funny is that this nation if they elect OBAMA, remember CHANGE is only a word. He has not proven even as a Senator that his actions are not leadership nor Presidential. It takes alot more than promising change. Look what happened when the Democrat’s got control again, I still haven’t seen progress to change yet. Rememeber your vote should count, votr and if you can write your candidate in.

Everyone please understand that as blacks not voting for Obama was a hard decision for my family. In the end we realized that MLK really stood for the freedom for blacks to be free in every sense of the word. Not just physically but mentally unburdened.
I could not be like Jesse Jackson and stand behind someone that I did not believe in or even like for that matter. I understand why Jesse did it but he too should be free and open about his misgivings re: Obama.

Samantha -
Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on Bill Cosby, relative to his comments on black life in America?
As far as Obama’s “… policies are borrowed and empty.” — there must be something there, because McCain and Bush seem to be adopting them (i.e., Obama’s policies) at the rate of 1-2 per week. Of course, IOKIYAR.

We need better choices. but Hillary was never one of them, thank god.

Erin…it is simple really. If the facts about Obama (and there are many ugly facts about Obama) start getting broadcasted by the media—–he will certainly lose. As long as most of the media refuses to actually do real stories—Obama stands a good chance of winning well except that there is the internet and people do seem to be catching on anyways…..and that “bitter” Americans seem to be quieter about where they will not be voting.

and to all the level headed normal people ignore the double digit people who aren’t basing there judgements on qualifications on either side of this stupid PUMA group.
Hillary would be a good VP…would she be the best no…would she be better than McAskill or Sebelius… definitively.
better than Biden, Bayh or Dodd…no.
the problem is there are not enough women in the second tier to compete against the amount of men there.

Senator Obamba should have a short list and it should contain only one name: Hillary Clinton.

dl,
I agree, great post.

Sorry, I don’t buy it. No one knows who will win so you can say it all you want. But unless you have a crystal ball we will all just have to wait until Nov.

I’m not voting unless HILLARY CLINTON is on the 2008 ticket.
Obama believes he can win without her. He is greatly mistaken.
He may have won the hearts of 200,000 Germans but there are 18 million Democratic voters who do not like him & many will refuse to wait in long lines on election day to support his presidency.
Obama’s concession speech will, of course, be “historic” and “shocking.” The media will mourn by replaying it for weeks after he loses.
Caroline Kennedy is disconnected from the voters. They have no clue & fail to see the bus which is about to flatten this entire PR stunt.

usstripe: you said no REAL Democrat would vote for McCain…well how about us Reagan Democrats who don’t tow the party line like you Obama freaks. They call us Reagan Democrats because we normally vote Democratic but are more conservative (I voted for Reagan) and, unlike you, are not as subject to brainwashing and less likely to get caught up in some sophomoric rock star frenzy. Can’t wait to see the old man being sworn in at the Inauguration. B.O. Stinks!

Bruhman hates my words because they are the truth. I am not whiny and I have been criticized on this board more than most. I take it like a woman and I don’t go running to the media for photo ops like your candidate.
Obama claims to be from a a disenfranchised family. My single mother raised me w/o a father on welfare. I paid for my college and graduate education and never received a DIME of scholarship money from affirmative action initiatives. To this day my father deals scams and drugs. My mother died sometime ago and that was my heroine. My father is truly lost yet runs around with this Obama airbrush painted tee shirt on while he sells drugs. believe me if Obama wins dad will be the same hopeless bum he was before.
I am one of my dad’s 6 illegitimate kids. I am the only one that went to college, the only one who is not on welfare. I live on one side of town they on the other. Many times I have attempted to help them and give them HOPE. Tried to get them to enroll in school.
When I hear Obama speak of his so called disenfranchised environment it turns my stomach. He and I attended the same schools as well as many other ivy blacks who know him and are not voting for him. He is a PHONEY. No substance then. Even less now.
I had to keep hope alive way before Obama came along.

Choosing Hillary Clinton would be very, very foolish of Obama. She or her husband would undermine everything he tried to do and wouldn’t take any responsibility. There’s a very good reason he beat her in the primaries. He’s the better candidate.

You think Obama is putting on a publicity stunt ? Wait until you see McCain’s people and the republicans do it as the election goes on. They will be desperate.

Does anyone know the criteria for qualifying for a government bailout? Bear Stearns – yes, Lehman Brothers – no. American, United Airlines – yes, Delta, JetBlue – no. Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae – yes, IndyMac – kinda sorta!!! But, fret over a “supposed” tax increase that you “may” see. $482B deficit, you won’t see the increase, but your grandchildren will!!!

The Clintons can run again in 2016 – of
course most of their creepy caravan of romance novel followers will be dead by then.
They are a slimy lot. Clinton has herpes. Must have been nice to be abused by them.

Obama advocates change, but in the selection of his vice president it appears ,at least from press articles, that he is playing old politics. He will likely pick someone who backed his campaign from the beginning oppossed to picking someone who will likely compliment his presidency. Its the same old song but with a different beat. However,We can hope that he surprises us.

Hey dems wake up.You have nominated a smooth talking media created darling totally bereft of substance.No chance for victory as Americans tune in to this farce.

Kudos to Samantha for not allowing color to prejudice her decision, especially given her heritage. BTW, Samantha, although I like Obama better than Hillary, I did not read any of your posts as “whiny!”

Samantha,
I don’t hate your words. I believe you have the absolute right to pick and choose the candidate for your own reasons. I just don’t see any benefit to your style. It’s quite whiney!!! Obama’s not for me…i’m black and against Obama…yada, yada, yada…We get it, and are not surprised at all. there are indeed, African Americans that are not voting for Obama!!! I love your freedom of choice…bad example…right of choice…I fight for it everyday!!!

The things which were said and done to Obama during the primary, by the Clintons were unforgivable. Hillary NEVER presumed she wouldn’t be the candidate, so she and Bill just said anything they wanted. Thus, here they are. Left out in the cold.

Why is it that the ABC blogs are all crawling with the Rovians?
Honestly, you do your parent company (Disney) a grave dis-service by promoting skewed appearances.
btw – I love Hillary but I don’t want her to be VP. Lenny Davis is a one trick pony and that’s all he is.

There are plenty of qualified women and men. Even plenty with executive and business experience. Sebelius has deep political and executive experience – which by the way Hillary did and does not have. Maria Cantwell is another name that quickly comes to mind. There may not be enough insider creeps, but Democrats should not want them anyway.

@ BruhMan, have you noticed the number of former HRC employees now working for FOX? I think that’s what happened.

I see that the Enquirer is after John Edwards. The legal staff of the Enquirer are creepy Clinton camp followers. One can only assume mischief to unplug a pretty good candidate. Sebelius is in fact much more qualified. OK, her hair is not as nice as Edwards.

You go Janice in Chicago. I grew up in Chicago and was in Detroit also. Obama has done nothing for Chicago and the black on back crime there is worse than ever. That poor little girl that was stabbed and so forth.
Brutha man hates the truth. There is nothin whiny about me BRUTHA. Like I said self made sista from ZERO help. The Southside of Chicago is Bronzeville, a symbol of black power and community. It is dying before our eyes. What happened Obama?

For all you Clinton supporters…please…this is just another tactic by the GOP and McSame to take your eye off the bigger picture…getting rid of Bush and the GOP and not electing McSame. Don’t be fooled by this nonsense. Keep your eye on the issues and be assured that Senator Obama will in the end pick the most qualified person to be his running mate.

disambiguates…
as someone who was not a HIllary supporter how in the world could you say Sebelius is more qualified than Clinton…
we need to all talk on a level that is factual…running a state government with no foreign policy and no international issues is a far cry from being the Commander in chief…
she may have a state mandatory budget experience…and management experience but as far as knowledge of the issues…Hillary is way beyond her qualifications…
and I do not want Hillary as VP either (I wouldn’t be upset but…) Sebelius would be a horrible choice.
If we were not in the state we are in the world…I may think differently but not with the state of affairs we have.

Because I have admired Hillary since her days on the Wal-Mart board, I hope Obama does not pick her as VP. If Obama wins in November, he will most likely be a dismal failure and one-term president (while many of his ideas sound good, once he becomes president, the reality of his tax=and-spend plans will hit the public like a sledgehammer) – that will make it easier for Hillary to get the nomination in 2012.

dl: Hillary Clinton as much as you would like to think to the contrary, has no executive experience. The one bit of executive experience that we have seen her handle, her campaign, was not well run.
Now you may think that sending private detectives to intimidate women with no connection to power is executive experience. That would be a core value we should attempt to remove from the Democratic party. No one wants that, least of all women.

I wouldn’t be suprised if Obama selects another woman instead of Clinton to have women vs women, the same way his campaign has pitted whites vs blacks, Civil Rights era blacks vs young blacks, older generation vs youner generation, upper class vs lower class and Democrats vs Democrats. Truely Obama is the candidate of UNITY. YES HE IS!

Lanny Davis is an idiot.

Just more proof of the Clinton’s sense of entitlement! Hillary has reached the top of her mountain… the dream is over!!! Nothing nore than a Senator, and wife of a former President…. too bad Hillary!!!

Bruhman – well said. The Hispanic poll did debunk the idea that Hispanics were nearly unanimous in their flight from Obama. Even the poll for likely women voters (54-39) doesn’t seem too threatening.
Yes, many are ready for Obama and his message. Yes, there are many who like Clinton, and that’s fine, but she didn’t win the primary. There are those who are disappointed she didn’t, and that’s fine too, but if that’s reason to project blame onto Obama and his supporters and vote McCain, then at least know what you are voting for in McCain – (ie, no health care reform, little environmental care, likely additional and protracted wars…)

I’ve been saying for weeks that if Obama were to pick a female other than Hillary Clinton for vice president, I would vote for John McClain. To pass over Hillary to choose a “token” woman would be the greatest insult possible.

Obama spends alot of time in Missouri. Why do you suppose that? He must have a reason. I mean I could understand if he spent so much time in Illinois. But he doesn’t. There has to be a reason….
Think. Isn’t there a female who edged out a Republican in a close Congressional race there 2 years ago? Hmmmmm

Bruhman on McCain: ‘no to ever female issue.’
So, you think there are no Pro-life women? Come on! There are millions out there who relize what farce pro “choice” is and the resulting physical and emotional damage that comes from termintating your baby’s life with you. It is devastating and millions of post abortion women have come to realize just how duped they were to think it was nothing more than a simple “medical procedure!” Tehre is nothing pro woman about wantin gthe right to terminate your own first born!

“I’m voting for Obama, unahsamedly, unapologetically!!! He could pick the Man on the moon as VP.”
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The man on the moon or Hilter, Genghis Khan, Rezko, Farrakhan, Wright, Chris Rock, Gumby, Pee Wee Herman and he has your vote.

Like a true Clintonite. Hillary Clinton was defeated by Obama. This gives him the right to select spongebob if he wants to. If Lanny wants to say who the VP should be, then Clinton should have won. She probably would have picked…spongebob.

Anita Apple wrote – “I’ve been saying for weeks that if Obama were to pick a female other than Hillary Clinton for vice president, I would vote for John McClain. To pass over Hillary to choose a “token” woman would be the greatest insult possible.”
Okay, but has it occured to you that there may be OTHER qualified women out there, that just might work well with Obama, even if they don’t have the experience of Hillary?
Why so catty?

This article was over from the minute I saw he was quoting from Fox as a reputable source. And any other sources shilling for SHrillbillary Clinton. I find it amusing everyone was pushing for a woman. Now that there is a rumbling of “another woman” *gasp!* the claws come out for only one woman in particular. Furthing confirming my thoughts all along that The clintons weren’t in it for the betterment of America or some other noble purpose. They were in it soley for THEMSELVES. The sooner the Clintons are less then a footnote in history the better.

ambiguates remember some of our best Presidents were Senators and not governors…Lincolnand Kennedy…
and I think it was FDR that said he ran for Governor for the resume not the experience…after he had been a senator.
Senate experience is better than gubernatorial even though people try to say the execustive thing makes a “stronger leader”… the wonk on policy is what counts…
Clinton and Reagan were charming but also wonks on national policy.
Sibelius (unfortunately cause I like her) is not the best governor…and although well versed…she would be trampled in a debate from a Mitt Romney, or a Ridge or even a Pawlenty i think.
Executive experience may be the popular road people take to set them up for a run at the white house…but as far as grasp of the issues I would far trust Hillary to go up against Ridge and Dodd and she would crush Pawlenty in the debate.
But Biden would actually crush all of them.

JudyB: I agree completely. Lanny Davis is a smarmy, Clinton, creep. James Carville attacks Richardson calling him a Judas. The whole lot of Clinton media manipulators, especially Wolf Blitzer and George Stephanopoulos, should get off the stage. They are all a disgrace.

“I’m NOT voting for Obama, unahsamedly, unapologetically!!! He could pick the Man on the moon as VP.”
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Why would anyone even care about these polls that change day to day. You guys excite too easily. Why not look at the electoral map and see what you think, very interesting.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/

obama would be a fool to pick hilliary. she not to be trusted as far as I’m concerned. she wants to be president so bad I wouldn’t put anything past her. Obama pick any other woman but her cause if you do you will regret it!

Disambiguates’ point is accurate. To say that if it’s any woman, it should be Hillary for VP, somehow separates women into a distinct, lesser category, as though they are only running against each other. In fact, they are in the same pool with men. If Obama were really thinking, he’d know Hill’s the best choice over a woman or a man, period. But ego will make people do not-so-smart things… I can see phenomenal change happening with her smarts, energy and experience thrown into the mix.

Angry, bitter, grumpy, tempermental, gold digger, war-monger………Hmmmmmm…….. you know who I’m talking about with out even saying his name!!!…….. And you still want to elect him President???
Are you serious???
Obama in ’08!!!

Kimberly, you wrote – “If Barack Obama pulls a stunt and selects another female as his VP candidate, there will be a hellstorm on his campaign from me and others like me who have frankly HAD IT.”
I will ask you the same as I asked another – Okay, but has it occured to you that there may be OTHER qualified women out there, that just might work well with Obama, even if they don’t have the experience of Hillary?
Why so catty? Why take it out on another woman?

I do have to say I agree with Lanny’s sentiments on thisbut he is still a sniveling puts.
Out of the whole primatry I am only disgusted by two people when it is all said and done…and if I got the chance to tell them it would be the ethically challenged lawyer and lackey…Lanny the “sniveling rat” David…and that whack job lying…Blonde…that to this day winny……KIKI
ugh…
I think Hillary would have done better if it were not for those two.
oy
talk about ethically challenged… they gave Hillary a bad name…
even though he is right on this issue…Hillary is more qualified than either of these two women.

Dekonti,
No worries, they attack for leaving out letters of “real” words in here. I mistakenly dropped a “y” from every…and the arrogance of them jumped on me!!! but, “unexperienced” takes the cake!!!

Kimberly
you are absolutely right! . . don’t forget Hillary Clinton won the majority of votes. Guess Obama and Bush, Jr. just don’t believe in counting the majority. It is a sad a election primary–Obama is weak without substance and experience, his character reeks of arrognance, and McCain’s camp seems they’re in a slump. Obama and McCain are soooooooooooo boring . . and the funny part of it–Obama actually thinks he’s all that. They guy can’t break 50%–he acts as if he is leading McCain by double digits–what a joke.

I am hoping that Clinton is not on an Obama ticket … because I think McCain will win … and Hillary can beat him in 2012!
Hillary ’2012

OK, here we go again with the “majority” vote crap!!! In my opinion, Clinton and Obama should have gotten ZERO delegates out of Michigan and Florida. That’s right, hillary won exactly 55% of ZERO delegates in Florida. She got 59% of ZERO delegates from Michigan…THAT’S HOW IT SHOULD HAVE GONE DOWN…if you really think about it.

and the Clinton sense of entitlement goes on

Enough about Clinton and what she may feel she’s entitled, what about Obambi’s sense of entitlement after only doing 147 days in the Senate? If Obambi wants “Sponge Bob” that will be fine with me, but Obambi may not want that, Sponge Bob may steal his spotlight.

The argument for Hillary being brilliant does not wash. Look at how she ran her campaign. No one would accuse her of being an inspiring speaker either. Sebelius on the other hand is inspiring and not connected with the dirty tricks of the last two decades.
Angela Merkle the Chancellor of Germany has a PhD in chemistry from the University of Leipzig. Now, she is smart and inspring. We have plenty of Merkles her in the US – female and male. The financial boom of the 1990s was due to the Internet and PC revolution. We need some one who is smart not slick to manage the next one.

Unexperienced DUMMY, is a word in the context that I used it in which means untried I said experience the unexperienced.
It seems that the angry male Obamabots are getting increasingly angry and it is time for their graham cracker and kool aid break.
If all you guys can come up with is taking shots at semantics then you must be tired. Obama will lose in November. Then where will all the black people turn to for hope??? Maybe somewhere in America there is a pregnant pseudo free spirit, anti establishment and militant white woman carrying the seed of a black man and he will grow up and go to Ivy League schools and you all will have hope in the black race again. How pathetic.

What is with the obsession with petty, personality based politics? What happened to issues, policies, and vision? All this petulant, nasty anti-Obama or Clinton talk really depresses me about the state of the mind of the American voter. I am not sure, but I don’t think there is one comment here on what policy differences the various VP possibilities would bring to the Demo ticket. We know the mainstream media, such as ABC, is vapid and lazy and focuses on petty personality attacks formulated by Karl Rove. But can the posters here elevate themselves above that please?

Samantha,
Scowered dictionary.com until you found something that gave a definition for “unexperienced”. WOW, it “is” an un-word. a word often used, but really is not a “word.” Say it enough, make up a meaning, and years later, it becomes a word. Face it, you made an error. What “arrogance”, can’t even admit a mistake!!!

Actually Bruhman,
Unexperienced
Un`ex*pe”ri*enced\, a. 1. Not experienced; being without experience
So it really is correct. Now that takes the cake…

FRANKLY SPEAKING I LOST INTEREST IN THE RACE WHEN HILARY CLINTON LOST THE NOMINATION. You have one caanidate that throw anyyone under the bus when he feel that it will hurt his chance to win the White House. The other canidate I doubt if he remember what happened yesterday. All you Clinton haters, remember that Hilary got 18 Million votes and we will never desert her. Fine, don’t choose Hilary to run for VP
because when Obama loose you will blame that on her also. Go on Obama and pick your White Boy for VP because that is ALL I see in your suroundings. ARE YOU AFRAID TO SHOW BLACK FACES? As to John
McCain SAD AND TIRED. Throw them all under the Bus and I only wish we could
start this process all over again.

Jane you haven’t answered me. So is it going to be 18 million puma at the convertion, will you be there as well for your beloved Hillary.

PUMAs are old news. We just hear from the few holdouts or from conservative moles.

Samantha, I hate to say it but Bruhaman is correct..here. The word you are looking for is indeed “inexperienced.” However, I got your point anyway.

Pallim,
Thanks…but her “arrogance” will get in the way. NEVER let the enemy know, that you KNOW, that I KNOW, that you’re wrong. Eh, Samantha? How could you have that much arrogance, and not vote for Obama, you fit has constituency like a glove!!!

More Women Choosing McCain Over Obama
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:06 PM
If soccer moms determined the outcome of the 1996 presidential race and security moms tipped the balance in 2004, it is beginning to look as if older moms are the key to the 2008 contest.
Obama has a problem among women over 40 and a big problem among women over 50. These groups, normally the staunchest of Democratic supporters, are showing a propensity to back McCain

Samantha,
Your “charity” contributions are great too. My family donates to cancer patients, provides food and clothing to the poor, and all sorts of things. That had no relevance in my decision to vote for Obama, as your charity for black women college funding shows none for NOT for Obama…that was pointless!!! SISTAH

Samantha,
Not bitter, nor old. Here we go…the theme changes from “arrogance” to “empty suit” Put you accomplishments against Senator Obama’s…who’s empty? As a matter of fact, if that’s empty, we should all aspire to be so “empty.” Like I said from the beginning, Samantha, I never degraded you for you choice. In fact, I appluaded you for making it. I just disagree, and choose Obama, and told you, I fight for your right to choose everyday. But, also I can talk issues or sling BS all day with the best of them!!! You name it SISTA!!! Being black was part of my decision, I hear a different message from Obama. Changing the way politics in Washington is approached is also another reason. I could list them in detail, but you “self loathing” SISTAH SOULJAH types kill me when BROTHAS don’t agree with you.
Sang it…and an “n” in agaist vice against…call the sherriff.

I am a strong Hillary supporter and will not vote Obama no matter who he picks for VP. I “hope” he does not pick Hillary because she would be blamed for his loss. Obama has no chance of winning except if he picked Hillary and then she would never get the credit for his win and would be blamed for every silly decision he made as President. The best case now is for McCain to win 2008 and Hillary 2012. My bet is Condi Rice will be McCain’s VP which will help split both the black vote and the women’s vote.
Those who voted Bush and now regret it need to think back to why you voted Bush. Most people in 2000 voted Bush because they thought he would be more “fun” to have a beer with. Clearly Gore was far more experienced. Now we have the same choice, either Obama the fun guy with less experience than even Bush or McCain with many years experience and the person responsible for us now winning in Iraq. Obama voted for us to leave Iraq with our tail between our legs……and he will raise taxes for every “household” earning over $200,000. per year as well as capital gains tax on everyone.
For Obama to continue to play the race card and then add a token woman for VP should make everyone sick including blacks who know all about “token” jobs. Certainly for either of the other 2 women to accept the VP slot will end their careers in politics because Obama will lose anyway and either of the 2 women would be forever known as the token VP on the ticket.
VOTE McCAIN 2008
HILLARY 2012

Samantha,
In a way…quite honestly YEAH!!! But, we don’t ever want to have honest conversations. we just want to skim across the issues!!!

Race and gender IS/WAS a blinding factor is this years elections. You have consistently posted “empty suit”, “arrogant” nonsense blabber. So, you have fell hook, line, and sinker for “their/his/hers” plan. Call it what you want, vote how you want…it’s your choice. God help the day African Americans say they are unashamedly picking a person because they look, talk, and act like we do. god help the day, WE start to tell America we will not apologize for it. God help the day we stand up for ourselves. SISTAH!!!

Day 1…”Will African Americans vote for Barack Obama? We hardly know him.” But, African Americans turned out in record numbers and YES WE CAN. We’ve know Barack Hussein Obama for years. THEY didn’t, not US.
Day 2…WOW, he actually won Iowa? Let’s wait and see what South Carolina says…then we’ll have a “feel” of this candidate. is he for “real” or just another Jesse Jackson wanna be…you know Al Sharpton-esque.
Day 3…He raised how much? No way, shattered the record for a monthly primary draw? What “arrogance”. After all, we barely know him, and blacks love him…maybe he’ll eat fried chicken and watermellon on the “white” house lawn.
Day 4…Oh my Lord. He’s leading every poll!!! Sean Hannity, call Hal Turner, and see if he’ll hang a noose somewhere.
Day 5…Trot out the bitter “sweeties.”

He should offer the VP spot to McCain, just to tick him off. McCain is ex-military, he offsets Obama’s charisma with “experience,” and he follows Obama’s every move and general lead like a dog.
This was a joke.

I would offer that we don’t “KNOW” John McCain. Is he for or against Bush tax cuts? Is he for or against abortion? Is he for or against nation building? Is he for or against immigration reform? Is he for or against Social Security privatization? is he for or against torture? Is he for or against NAFTA, CAFTA, and the rest of the FTA’s? Is he for or against off-shore oil drilling? It just depends on what day of the week it is!!!

Samantha……I totally agree with you. I too hope HRC will not take any VP or anything else from Obama and the DNC as a whole. Looking forward to Pelosi, Reid, Kerry etc. all loosing on re-election bids. Now that is change we could all live with. Those people have abandoned the basic principals of the Democratic Party – all to support Obama? Shameful and not in the best interest of America.

And then of course is John Edwards….sleeze of the world caught with his squeeze out in LA. I feel bad for his wife…what a terrible thing to have to live with while fighting her cancer. I certainly hope Obama does not choose him for VP! Shameful behaviour!

BruhMan…….I knew but my finger failed that class :-)

Actually….alot more than the Security Guard according to the other news medias.

NAME ONE SOURCE THAT CORROBORATES THAT STORY??? Go ahead, I’ll wait!!!

NielPA – Mr. Clinton is a liability all his running around with other women that is why Obama won’t pick Hiliary she can not keep her husband behavor in control.

AMW,
Ten minutes and you cannot come up with one source??? I know Google, or is it CUIL now…just ask McCain…is faster than that!!!

This whole campaign by Senator Obama has not been about what is best for our country but how to get an inexperienced socialist, Marxist, communist elected so he can change our country from a true democracy.
Certainly hope voters wake up before it is too late.

He wont pick her it would hurt his pride and he is too scary. I am sickened, and even though Hillary really deserved her consideration he didnt give it to her. He can do what he wants, but its too bad for the country that we can’t an intellectual woman like Hillary as vp. All this crap about the primarys and what Hillary said, if Hillary hadnt brought it up McCaiin would really be having a feild day with the stuff McCain is throwing at Obama Hillary only gave Obama some love taps. Obama doesn’t want whats best for this country he wants whats best for Obama. He probably wont even give her a cabinet positon and yet Hillary will still speak graciously at the convention. Obama is one big disappointment.

You know, the network that continually diplays “Obama’s baby Mama”, terrorist fist-jabbing (which is it..you decide), new Obama, we mean Osama terror video out today…Yeah, “Farse and Bebacled”

It has become painfully obvious that the best and brightest do not aspire to run for the highest office.While there are many flaws to be found in the two candidates,nothing approaches the stench of criminality those two lying grifting reprobates left in washington and now my hometown of chappaqua.Beelzebub exists,in that harridan he dwell.Now return that bedragled spawn of satan to hell.

McCain today annouced he’s proud. Proud, that he acknowledges an African American politician is the most popular CELEBRITY IN THE WORLD…and well, he’s not. Go get em tiger…brilliant strategy, is this what you’re paying Schmidt for???

Follow the narrative…”Bush is bad…Congress is worse. You know the “Democratic” Congress?!?!” Meanwhile, they fail to point out, it’s a 49/49 tie and two Independents. Actually, a 51-49 negative for Democrats, the way Lieberman slobbers all over McCain. And Bernie Sanders??? Get real, this is a “Do nothing Rebublican Congress.”

Judy….you are right but – the DNC bullies lead by Obama will not even allow her name on the ballot from what was divulged yesterday.
When the DNC get beat badly in November, then Clinton can just sit back and laugh – looking forward to 2012.

BruhMan….perhaps you need an education is what discussion is all about. Obama is a politican and says whatever he thinks will get him a vote to win. He has no intention of doing anything that he says – to get the vote. He is not honorable on his word. I am talking about character – or lack of – when it comes to Senator Obama.
Yes, campaign financing and FISA are only a couple of things that Senator Obama has gone back on his campaign promises. Nothing new for this guy. This is the same person who has poor judgment to not go see OUR injured troops and showed previous poor judgment when it comes to the friends that he has chosen over the years. Course, he also shows no loyalty and will throw anyone under the bus if he thinks it will get him a vote.
Bad character and bad judgments…the making of Senator Obama.

AMW,
Lemme see, what platform that Bush ran on did he deliver??? Oh, that’s right, Social Security has been solved. Oh, that’s right, there was a medicare fix. Oh, that’s right, we didn’t “build” a nation. Nevermind, he can pass it down to McCain!!!

AMW,
Is it good character or good judgement to dump you old bag of bones first wife, for a hot in the sack bimbo? McCain does it, you decide. Is it good character or good judgement to bilk American taxpayers in an S&L scandal as an elected official? McCain does it, you decide. Is it good character or good judgement to give statements and propoganda against your country to the enemy during a war? Mccain does it, you decide!!! I’m lost, which has it been, good character or good judgement???

AMW,
It should show you about Obama’s judgement, by your own post. He didn’t even have to hold a committee meeting to know we need more troops in Afghanistan. GUESS WHAT, SWEETIE…JOHN MCCAIN WANT TO PUT MORE TROOPS INTO AFGHANISTAN NOW…TOO!!! WOW, when did they stop giving out homework???

It was Obama who said he was different…no one else. He can’t live up to it and come November, the American people will vote. They will vote for a patriot…they will vote for someone with experience…they will vote for someone they ‘feel’ they can trust. People will not vote for someone so arrogant as Obama…they will not vote for someone who so blatently throws 20+ year relationships under the bus for a vote….they will not vote for someone they cannot trust! They will vote for McCain!

You know folks, I have to be honest, I started out with Hillary, but she has a very nasty mouth and is a filthy liar and hypocrite of the highest degree! BUT, all that said, I would still agree that her and Senator Obama would be a good team and I could even look past the points that she played the race card against him, the feminist card, and the GD assassination card also! She is a low life snake (at best). But she would never be trusted by Michele (who probably wants to scratch her eyes out) and she would bring Bill Clinton into the White House and that would never fly! Clinton defiled himself and is an off handle womanizer. Even one of his ‘best bud’ black women Oprah doesn’t even talk to him anymore like they used to because his true colors came out while he was campaigning for his wife. Their true colors people, your true colors. Bill said Senator Obama’s campaign was some kind of ‘fairy tale’. The only fairy tale going on now is how they thought they could keep running up campaign debt when the numbers told Hillary she couldn’t possibly win (unless she used fuzzy math). So there you are! Now you can go report that back to your PUMA crowd of jealous babies. And what does that stand for again…oh yeah People Using Mindless Allegations!
All hail the Chief!

AMW,
Talk about “clingy” Okay, you want him to say he’s a politician??? Will that do it??? oh, here we go…when all else fails…bring up Rev. Wright!!! Gotcha…we’ve all heard bad things, from bad people. Neither of which came from Rev. Wright. You see, what he did was 100% American. He challenged his government to pause, before it ramped up it’s “war machine.” But, all you heard was GD America!!! Watch the entire sermon!!! Next Ayers…well, Obama was seven or eight years old when his actions took place. That’s Obama’s fault? Great strategy…go ahead, advice McCain to use Rev. Wright, and Ayers…he knows it BALOGNA!!!

BruhMan………..how interesting…I bring up nothing about race but you do??? LOL – you have learned well from Obama.

Obama is not different. The American people are beginning to figure this out. He attended one of the most elite high schools in Hawaii, Pun Hou School to the tune of about 15k a year. He was raised by his grandparents–a Hawaii bank vice president. He is and grew up privileged!

It would not surprise me at all if Obama selects Governor Kaine as his VP running mate. Kaine is Barack’s good buddy and like Obama, has a thin resume in public service. As a life-long Democrat, I am just astounded with what is happening with my Party! Obama could assure a victory in November if he would choose Senator Clinton as his running mate. But alas, it’s like Obama says: ‘I want somebody who I am compatible with, who I can work with, who certainly compliments ME.’ Afterall, this election is all about him — and to hell with the 18 million American voters (majority which are loyal Democrats) who supported Senator Clinton! That’s why he will lose the Presidency without Hillary on the ticket. Perceptions, true or not, are REAL: He doesn’t care what others think — he only cares about himself and what he wants!

I hope Hillary stays far away from Obama. He is going to lose to McCain, and she does not need to go down with his failing ship. He will only try to use her for the states she won, and for her supporters. Hillary will be his scapegoat, and he will take all of the credit for everything.
We see what has happened since Hillary hasn’t been around to absorb all the hateful media. Obama is flippity flopping and lying all over the place. Now that he has had center stage, we can see that he is a magalomaniac who uses race as a political tool.
We are not going to put up with all this BS anymore.
Hillary stay AWAY from Obama. We do not want him.

Well, after reading some of the posts, and seeing how Obama is liked as well as disliked a great deal, I have come up with a soothing thought.
If Obama picks Hillary, I think all the libs should just chill.
HE will do like a good little follower and let her do all the leading…She will direct him into the corner of one of the lesser offices, as they did with Al Gore, and together BILL AND HILL will be The Co-Presidents, as they were in the 90′s.
THERE!..now I hope you all feeeeeel better about voting for the dem ticket.

Hillary isn’t getting VP. Of the other names getting mentioned, Sebelius would particularly be a disaster: 1. she won’t bring Kansas – Obama’s already down 20 points; 2. she will upset Catholics,since she’s an extremist on abortion to the point that her bishop asked her to stop receiving Communion; 3. she’ll upset Hillary supporters, since they’ll feel Hillary should be on the ticket; 4. she doesn’t bring experience on international issues; 5. sad to say, many would not vote for a ticket with African-American and a female. Kaine, Biden and Bayh are all solid choices.

The sure way for Obama to blow this election is to pick another woman. Hillary got more votes than he did and for him to put another woman on the ticket will drive millions of her voters to stay home or vote for McCain or Nader.
I hope this happens.

Thursday July 31,2008
Time:8:13Pm
Re:Accordling to an ABC Poll, Senator Obama lead’s McCain 54% to 39% among likely women voters.
Rebuttal, I’m not sure if this poll is all that sufficient since, we don’t know who obama’s vice presidental choice is. Secondly, I think once Senator Clinton, is once, and for all, out of the picture then, and only then, will we see who these working women lining up behind a worthly, presidental candidate of preference.
Sincerely,
Emmery Jones Jr
Health Information Admin.CCS-P
Graduate:William Rainey Harper College

whoever he picks besides clinton will be underwhelming to me…. why has john edwards suddenly disappeared?hmmm Anyways people talk about her not helping him out ummm she has a job to do unlike Obama she doesnt like to vote present. She was only absent from the senate cause she was running for president and made to the important votes. So now she is back at work and she has appeared with Obama more than any of the other presidental canidates. Her latest praise of Obama came today http://www.politickerca.com/jeffmitchell/1646/hillary-clinton-barack-obama-wow-large-union-crowd-sfs-moscone-west Do people should get off her back unfortantely she is doing the unity thing. I feel good to have just donated to her.

Let’s see if I get this straight. With 21 years in elected office as opposed to Hillary Clinton’s 8, Sebelius is supposed to be less experienced and qualified. While Clinton was “dodging sniper fire” in the 90′s, Sebelius was actually holding statewide office and running something well, but that apparently makes her less qualified. In the 2000′s, Sebelius got elected governor of a red state twice, consistently took pro-choice stands in that pro-life state, stood up for the environment against coal plants, eliminated the budget deficit, and generally took progressive positions in a political environment where that’s not always easy to do. Meanwhile, Clinton sought election in deep blue New York rather than her home red state, voted for the war in Iraq when that was expedient, only to oppose it when that became more expedient, and came up with the greatest pander of the primary season by backing the Republicans’ idea for a gas tax “holiday” that only further encourages dependence on foreign oil and production of greenhouse gases. But don’t forget, she is clearly more qualified than Sebelius. Clinton’s qualifications to run an organization, let alone a country, are especially evident when you consider that she began the nomination campaign with prohibitive advantages in support, endorsements, connections, organization, money, and public profile, and still managed to run a losing campaign that squandered all of the above, was best known for its behind-the-scenes infighting, and somehow ended up $20 mil + in the hole.
Now, in service of Hillary Clinton’s obviously greater qualifications than everyone else, the Democratic Party is supposed to avoid nominating anyone as VP who might actually compete with her for the presidential nomination in eight years’ time. Heaven forbid that the Clinton team be thwarted again by anyone in 2016, least of all… a woman?! Perish the thought that anyone but Sen. Clinton shatter the glass ceiling. After all, it’s not like Kathleen Sebelius is qualified for the Executive branch.
I’d respect the former Clinton campaigners more if they’d just come out and admit that they’re already campaigning for next time and would like to thin out the field, rather than sending Lanny Davis et al. out to make these ridiculous and illogical arguments against competent legislators from their own party. It’s just sad.

Irma
You are right! This so called transcedent campaign of Obams its not working out so well…. they sealed their fate when they trashed the mainstream part of the democratic party in order to win the nomination… I think that the VP nomination should be left up to the delegates and then we will let the chips fall where they may… furthermore(and IM not a republican but a lifelong democrat) the recent ad by Mccain portraying Obama as nothing more than a world renown celebrity akin to Britney Spears or Paris Hilton is “spot on” like the Obamabots like to say all the time! This is disgusting and rather than be humiliated like I was for supporting Dukkakis in ’88 in my first election voting, I will enjoy the dismantling of the Obama campaign and the vanity and vengence its people have for their Antipathy for people that dont go along with them…I am right on this … I have been throught the primaries and you all will be a laughing stock!

how should a president choose their veep… simple, they should choose someone who is good for the administration. They should choose someone with skills and strengths in areas where they themselves are weak. If you’re basing you’re veep choice based on the voters you can pull, then you are doing it all wrong.
Clinton should not be Obama’s veep for the simple fact that she adds little to the administration (or atleast, not as much as other canidates). Anywhere she might help Obama, he can get even MORE out of other potential veeps… Obama would be a good president on his own right, clinton would be a good president on her own right, but they would not work together because they don’t really compliment eachother.
and personally, i think that, for obama’s administration, Hillary would do more good in the senate… She made such a strong showing during the primaries that it is gonna give her some serious weight when it comes to pushing legislation in the senate. We don’t just need a strong executive branch, we need a good senate aswell… we need them working together instead of working against each other like they are right now.

As a PUMA I pray Obama picks Kaine for Veep. As a Virginian I know it will be the worst choice he could possibly make.
HRC2012!
PUMA!

“No self respecting woman should wish for or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex” Susan B. Anthony
The Democratic party MUST be held accountable for their failure to denounced the rampant sexism, racism, classism, and voter disenfranchisment continually interjected into this 2008 campaign debacle by Barack Obama, his campaign,his nasty supporters and ALL media. In fact, the DNC is complicit in disenfranchising voters. It is unacceptable.
The DNC and Obama continue to stick it in the eye of female voters who make up the majority of the voting block of the Dem party. Women want Hillary by overwhelming numbers. WE will not have Barack Obama shoved down our throats. NO WE WON’T! The DNC has failed women in 2008.
The DNC understands two things, money and votes. WE have the power to with hold BOTH. DO SO>
Paybacks are hell, but necessary!
Country first, party second. It’s Hillary or McCain.

First of all, Lanny Davis just needs to give it up with the Hillary Clinton support as far as this Presidential Election. I am sick and tired of him. Furthermore, he knows not what he says.
Even the pro-Hillary for VP site has admitted she won’t be picked because Obama once someone who is not a Washington insider, someone who believes in his style of governing (read: working across the aisle), someone who does not believe in Lobbyists etc etc…Hillary is not that person, and the person closest to that description is…KATHLEEN SEBELIUS. Yes, a woman. But unlike you rabid Hillary feminists, Obama would not base his decision on placating females, all logical Democratic woman already know they need to support Obama. Hillary represents the opposite of Obama, she represents the Washington establishment, and that is not indicative of the kind of change he wants to bring to Washington. His selection of Sebelius would be based on merit and ability to lead, not her gender. Get a clue please.

He knows how much she wants to be president. If he did choose her for vice president and they won the race he
would have to sleep with one eye open, at least thats what the ghost of Vince Foster tod me.

Hillary in 2008! Hillary in 2012! Then we’d see some REAL change in this country. I plan to vote for her this fall by writing her name in on my ballot, if only for symbolic value. I just can’t vote for Obama (too callow and slippery) or McCain (anti-choice, pro-guns, pro-war — need I go on?)It’s not too late to start a viable write-in campaign for Hillary!!

How can any true Obama supporter actually support Hilary on the ticket? She led an intense smear campaign throughout the Primaries and now she thinks that Obama should just let her hop on his success train? Are you joking? Obama was never negative, and yet Hilary and her campaign continued to insult him again and again, pulling pathetic lines such as “Barack Osama”. Is this really someone that the American people want to have leading them? The idea is ridiculous.

What experience does Caroline Kennedy have? I think Obama asked because he wants to be associated with Kennedys like Bill was. Caroline should stick to creative arts and all the Foo Foo stuff. Robert Kennedy’s children are far more qualified and more involved in the day to day workings of govt. Robert Kennedy was more intelligent than his older brother. Both Caroline and her brother did not run for public office.

Its clear that Senator Clinton has more experience, background, and connections that Senator Obama. No boss likes to be upstaged by #2. There’s no way he will appoint her as VP, unless its the only way for her to win. If Hilary was smart, she’d wait for a chance to go it on her own, and take an ambassadorial role to a key country. Then, in 4 years, she’ll be back.

I have never voted for a Republican in my entire life, but that will change this november. Because of his despicable desecration of the Clinton legacy, I will commit political suicide and vote for John McCain. I’d rather have four more years of Republican rule than to give Barack Obama a chance to screw up the country. He is one of the most unqualified candidates to ever run for president. Besides, a McCain victory will enable Hillary to run(and win) in 2012.

Just a question – When Republicans vote straight ticket they are called idiots but when Democrats vote straight ticket they perceive themselves as profits, full of wisdom and appear to tell the rest of us that they, the almighty Democrats know what’s best for the rest of us minions! I’ve been a Democrat for over 40 years now and think that they have left me behind. Mind you, McCain isn’t the answer either. I just think this election year is a loose/loose for the American public.

It is NOT Obama’s choice who he picks for veep. He has got to pick Clinton or he will not win. He needs to consider his ego or 1600 Pennsylvania ave. He can’t have it both ways. You know i’m getting to a point where Obama is annoying me as much as Bush did, now that’s talent. Way to look like a moron Obama!

Why can’t the Clinton folks just accept defeat gracefully? Lanny Davis and the alleged ABC reporter/friend of Hillary need to just go away.
This isn’t about gender. This is about power for the Clintons and their cronies.
Their ability to lie and change tunes mid song are nothing short of amazing.
Clintonistas: you lost – now go away.
The nation is very tired of you and your divisive approach to government.
Bye now.

Why should Obama consider Sebelius or McCaskill? They’re effective governors and they have managerial skills.
While on the other hand, Hillary could not even manage her campaign. There was open infighting, defiance, mismanagement, and her staffers, consultants, and HUSBAND were working on projects that she said she was against.
And she spent TWO HUNDRED TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS = $212,000,000.00 and counting — and still has not paid all her bills.
It doesn’t matter that she’s a woman. She’s not a competent leader. And the United States does not want another George W. B.

For all u foolish posters who believe just because those two women might be somewhat competent governors of relatively unimportant states the point you are missing is the only person Obama needs to pick is the person best suited to help him win. The VP does not do anything! Neither of those governors are going to help Obama win. At this point Hillary Clinton is the only democrat who can save Obama from himself. He has yet to make it past the margin of error in polls and considering his so called popularity those are dismal prospects. Continue to pretend that Hillary did not garner the votes of the actual part BASE and you will do so at your own peril. The democrats CAN NOT win in november without the votes of Clinton’s supporters, which just happen to be the bread and butter of the democratic base, and if you have not noticed, we are NOT sold on Obama. Clinton won the majority of votes during the primary and all the largest democratic states. Keep this in mind while you degrade her. Her campaign has far from failed when you consider that we are still discussing what her role should be going forward. Looks to me like she is still a winner.

I’M SO MAD RIGHT NOW!!!
karen finney from the barack obama camp in a interview denied giving A.C.O.R.N money during the general but admitted giving money to A.C.O.R.N while running against hillary in the primaries.
were we cheated??:(