By Natalie Gewargis

Jul 31, 2008 5:01pm

From the Fact Check Desk: Are Obama’s Claims About Inflating Car Tires Accurate?

Yesterday in Missouri, the presumptive Democratic nominee had a suggestion for voters: Pump up your tires.

To improve your mileage.

To thus save energy.

"There are things that you can do individually though to save energy," Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, said. "Making sure your tires are properly inflated, simple thing, but we could save all the oil that they’re talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much."

Watch HERE.

Republicans lit into Obama today.

"This is unbelievable!" said Rush Limbaugh today. "My friends, this is laughable of course, but it’s stupid!  It is stupid! How many of you remember the seventies? When we had these shortages, all through the Jimmy Carter years and we have all these tips, all these tips on how to save gasoline?  Avoid jackrabbit starts, keep your tires properly inflated, there’s a list of about ten or twelve these things.  I said if I follow each one of these things I’ll have to stop the car every five miles, siphon some fuel out, for all the fuel I’m going to be saving. This is ridiculous.  This is a presidential candidate and he’s talking about keeping your tires inflated and getting regular tune-ups and that would save as much oil as drilling would produce. And this guy is the Democrat presidential nominee.  Who has filled his head with this stuff"

Listen HERE.

In Racine, Wisc, today, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was more respectful of the idea, but he belittled it as a solution in and of itself.

"Yesterday, he suggested we put air in our tires to save on gas," McCain said. "My friends, let’s do that, but do you think that’s enough to break our dependence on Middle Eastern oil? I don’t think so. So I believe that every energy source needs to be part of the solution. We need to develop new alternative energies like wind, solar, tide, biofuels, but we also need to develop more existing energies like nuclear power and clean coal."

Watch HERE.

The idea that inflating tires would help is not disputable, Limbaugh’s mockery aside.

According to the U.S. Department of Energy, "every pound per square inch of tire underinflation wastes 4 million gallons of gas daily in the U.S."  Survey information from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration shows that 27% of the cars on the road have a significantly under-inflated tire.

Obviously, Obama wasn’t arguing that inflating tires would reduce the nation’s dependence on foreign oil — but he was saying such a move would save as much energy as drilling for oil in the continental shelf would provide.

Is that true?

If it does save gas, and it is a common problem, well, then what would the total savings be if we all were a bit more diligent about checking the pressure very morning?

Frank Verrastro, Director and Senior Fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), says that it’s complicated, of course.

"The ‘x’ factors here are the fact that Sen. Obama used both tire inflation and tune ups in his remarks, and no one knows what volume you could/would get from additional drilling in the outer continental shelf," Verrastro says.

As of now, all we have for the OCS are resource estimates, but no production.

Using the website FuelEconomy.gov, Verrastro writes, we can estimate that "the maximum (estimated) fuel economy (i.e., mileage) savings drivers could expect as a result of keeping their engines properly tuned (4%), replacing air filters (up to 10%), properly inflating tires (up to 3%) and using the correct motor oil (1-2%) is 18-19%.  Since American drivers use roughly 380 million gallons of gasoline (not including diesel) per day, an 18% improvement translates into a savings of 68 million gallons, or 1.62 million barrels of oil per day."

Current crude oil and condensate production in the OCS is about 1.25 million barrels per day.

So… What does that mean?

It means that if every American was running around with significantly underinflated tires and improperly tuned cars, then, yes, Sen. Obama is right, the savings from inflating the tires and tuning the cars could arguably match or exceed current output from the OCS.

However, since estimates of significant tire underinflation affect only about a quarter of the cars on road — as we noted above with the NHTSA statistics — and it’s highly unlikely that 100% of the cars are in need of tune- ups at any given time, the maximum savings amount is probably closer to 10%, Verrastro says.

"So the production offset is more likely to approach 800 thousand barrels per day – a tidy sum and a worthwhile target for savings, but not equal to OCS output," he rules. "Finally, without knowing what production volumes could be expected from lifting the ban on OCS drilling moratoria, it’s impossible to assert that taking these fuel savings actions would exceed future offshore oil volumes, and in fact, one might argue that the combination of achieving these savings AND developing new supply would doubly enhance US energy security."

- Jake Tapper and Natalie Gewargis

User Comments

Seriously, this gets the factcheck treatment? That’s all to the well and good but there was significant point to Sen. Obama’s attack on Sen. McCain’s proposals that could have used scrutiny.

Posted by: Rhoda | July 31, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Obama’s plan to fix Social Security is replace your transmission fluid.

Posted by: Gary | July 31, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Doesn’t that presume you would get double the amount of oil if you expanded drilling rights? Obama isn’t talking about ending offshore drilling altogether, and he was speaking of the “expected” benefits of that expansion.

Posted by: Sean Braisted | July 31, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Car tires! Outrageous!!
That Barak Obama! He couldn’t even change a tire, just like Brittany Spears.

Posted by: JJ | July 31, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

McCain wants America to stop supporting countries that fund terrorists with our gasoline dollars. Inflating our tires will help conserve oil, but does absolutely nothing to stop the flow of money to terrorists and Chavez. I hope Obama sticks to his guns on this one; this issue alone can cost him the election.

Posted by: marylou | July 31, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Checking the hot air in the tires might help a bit–like a nickel a week. Who is checking the hot air coming from the Obama campaign. We need to drill for more oil and maybe check out all those capped oil well. There are thousands around the country that was not cost productive to keep poducing when oil was $20/$30 a barrel.

Posted by: Mary | July 31, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

One thing the estimate did not take into account is the annual growth in the number of automobiles in this country. Also, a barrel of oil is not dedicated only to gasoline production. Lets not forget, there is diesel and jet. On top of all of that, there is heating oil which is also used. So, no, there is no way that the perceived conservation can match what can be produced from off shore drilling and production.

Posted by: Uninspired Voter | July 31, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

So he may have been right with his off the cuff comparison, or he could have been off by 30% if you pile all your assumptions just so? This matters… why? Are we suppose to be shocked that off the cuff comments are not accurate to +/- 10%, argue your assumptions about the number of cars with dirty filters, or debate the timeframe being referred to (if we all just pumped our tires it would save more gas over the next years than drilling the OCS will provide in the next 5 years).
Sorry, just can’t really care about this fluff.

Posted by: jhw539 | July 31, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Unforced error. There was no reason for Obama to make up this claim, other than to try and make it seem as if his arguments were stronger than they were. That’s old-style politics, something I thought Obama was going to CHANGE…

Posted by: George | July 31, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Mary – good point about the capped wells. Those should be reopened for further production now that oil has exceeded the previously set limit.

Posted by: Frustrated Voter | July 31, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

I took it as.. If you go with McCain and his proposals then what you will be saving in your bank account will be what you can save if you just air up your tires.
Go Obama… you are a smart man.

Posted by: becky | July 31, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

Rush Limbaugh want to become a team owner. Obviously this guy does not share the everyday concerns of the average American.
What is amazing is that he can still find people to listen to his crap. The very reason why he is now wanting to buy a team.

Posted by: Lance D. | July 31, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

This ‘solution’ is just more useless pontification which completely ignores the bigger problem and the bigger decisions to be made….by a real LEADER! When he realizes that this issue is a big achilles heal and flips or backs down and stops lecturing us and agrees that drilling needs to be done, what will you do Rhoda? He is an empty suit, and oblivious to how severe the energy crisis impacts our economy, our country and future. And if is not oblivious and still has this position, then he is bought and paid for by the environmentalist lobby. Hope and Change my @#$

Posted by: Jay M | July 31, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

What Obama said is facts that have been around since I’ve been driving (1960s). Rush proved he is the fool that he is by rediculing Obama’s remarks. If we can save 800 thousand barrels a day just by checking tire pressure, changing the air filter and getting a tune up, then what’s wrong with that. Has McCain got a better idea other than drilling for more oil that we won’t see for 20 years? And what happens after we drain all the oil from North America. Guess who will be the only place to have any left….Venezuela and the Middle East. McCain’s plan makes America more insecure than inflating a few tires.

Posted by: algwriter | July 31, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

This guy is the presumptive Democratic nominee in an election where energy is front and center, and his suggestion is to watch our tire pressure and make sure our cars are tuned up? Really?!?
What a joke.

Posted by: Citizen Duck | July 31, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Obama knew best – he has been inflating his thin resume. He’s as fake as ever.

Posted by: young_voter | July 31, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

seriously why don’t you do a fact check on drilling for oil. How about a fact check of how much oil is going to cost us in 10-20 years despite how much we drill. How about a fact check on if we can even afford an oil based economy in the next generation?
Why don’t we ask how much it is costing us in our electric rates, for those lights that are left on in all those buisnesses each night, highway signs, car lots, etc.
Do a fact check on how much we could save by driving the speed limit, and driving smaller cars for our commute.
It seems to me that Obama was talking about conservation in general. I guess he could have listed all the things we could do for those who can not make the leap.

Posted by: Thinking | July 31, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Funny how shallow Obama is all the time…..”inflate your tires”…is that the best he can come up with? Looks like he’s not gonna pick Hillary for the VP slot. Well folks, there’s no affirmative action in the voting booth. I may be a Democrat, but I don’t HAVE to vote for him. The only thing this guy has inflated is his ego.

Posted by: Freedom | July 31, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

This guy is the presumptive Democratic nominee in an election where energy is front and center, and his suggestion is to watch our tire pressure and make sure our cars are tuned up? Really?!?
What a joke.
Citizen Duck
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Are you one of Rush Limbaugh listeners? I guess you didn’t read the whole post which suggested that there is indeed some real savings to be made.
This boils down to the core of the American society. A wasteful society in which many always laugh at simple suggestions that could make a real impact in their immediate environment and the rest of the world. Sad!

Posted by: Lance D. | July 31, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Funny, but I though those same factors (tire inflation and tuneups) have been pushed by the government for months in an effort to conserve gas, but today those things are being ridiculed by republicans. Another example of wanting it both ways I guess. Drilling off shore will help, in 10 or 15 years, so why not ignore helpful ideas today. Empty rhetoric is the best to be expected for republicans anyway.
I guess McCain couldn’t think of a name to call Obama over this, so he left it to Limbaugh.

Posted by: JR | July 31, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

I believe that the import of Obama’s comments such as this is that there are things, sometimes small things, that each of us can do to better the economy, environment, or culture. It goes along with his frequently-repeated point that any real and meaningful change is going to have to come from the people, from concerted effort and pressure and sometimes self-sacrifice. — Look at the list of suggested actions that scroll across the screen at the end of “An Inconvenient Truth”. Little things, some of them tiny, but if ALL of us did them ALL the time, the impact would be huge. — Obama’s point is that we should look at the small things we can do, comparatively easily and right now, to permanently address some of our problems rather than expecting big government to swoop in with a “cure” to “save the day.” — In energy, if we can ‘buy enough time’ to explore alternative methods and sources by inflating tires, using cruise control and other methods within our grasp, why should we undertake the risky, harmful, not-immediate and ultimately dead-end solution of off-shore drilling? I think it’s a fair – and important – question. —- Anyway, mocking something a la Limbaugh is the easiest thing in the world to do, and it’s not worth even the hot air it produces.

Posted by: E | July 31, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

I have been keeping my tires inflated to max recommended psi for years for improved gas mileage. This is common knowledge among the informed.

Posted by: HonestAbe | July 31, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Maybe Obama could institute a mandatory air pressure tire check. Hire lots of federal employees to police auto tires. Those tires that aren´t inflated properly are given fines by the Tire Police.
Or next Obama will realize that overweight people cause gas mileage to be worse. (More weight in the car means worse gas mileage.)
And so if everyone in the U.S. went on a diet we would save more gas that way.

Posted by: Sally J. | July 31, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

HAHAHAHA. So Obama was basically correct.
Now the factcheck on McCain’s claim that offshore drilling would lower gas prices in the near future.
ROTFLMAO.
It won’t even lower gas prices in the *distant* future.
McCain is so toast.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | July 31, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

And how is he going to enforce this? Government funded tuneups? Fines for underinflated tires? People can’t afford to put gas in their tanks, HELLO!! This pie in the sky stuff may make some people feel good, but it’s never going to happen. How about some real solutions…well, I guess those would offend the radical environmentalists.

Posted by: Brian | July 31, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

>>>>I have been keeping my tires inflated to max recommended psi for years for improved gas mileage. This is common knowledge among the informed.
Well sure – but Obama claims we wouldn’t need to drill for oil if we ALL inflated our tires and got tuneups.
And Obama is high on Ethanol because of Illinois corn famers – but using crops for gas rather than food has INCREASED the cost of food!

Posted by: JoseyJ | July 31, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

I admit, I’m the first guy out there to try whatever I can to improve fuel economy and decrease emissions. I bought a Prius before they were a hot item – and I don’t even rack up 8k miles per year.
I could wish everyone would change their habits and take care of their cars, etc. I also wish we could leave ANWR and off-shore drilling alone.
But in my mind we have a 100+ million car problem. Whatever you want to do about oil prices and alternative energy, you have to acknowledge the fact that there are over 100 million cars on US roads. You can’t wave a magic wand and make them disappear. You can’t make them (significantly) more efficient. And you can’t dangle a fancy new technology (e.g. fuel cell, electric, etc) in front of people and expect them all to rush out and buy it.
So, a valid solution must:
A) acknowledge the life cycle of 100MM+ cars that use gas.
B) plan for energy consumption by this fleet until it’s significantly replaced.
C) understand that oil-producing countries that hate the US have little incentive to change their tune. They’ve already done the math – obviously, the US can’t say we’re gonna stop buying oil if they don’t stop anti-American activities. Where else are we gonna get the oil until B happens?
The long-term plan must be to replace the internal combustion engine. But it’s gonna take time to do it, and propagate it’s replacement across the US. It’ll take at least as long as Dems say it’ll take to see gas derived from OCS drilling.
I desperately want to hear a real solution from the Dems or Sierra Club that addresses these items. I haven’t yet.
If you don’t know anyone in the oil services industry, hook up with someone at Schlumberger, etc. These guys are all over the world exploring, drilling, etc. If we don’t do it here, someone’s drilling in another eco-system.
We can control our political and energy destiny by expanding domestic exploration and production. We can also exert more environmental control over production in our backyard than we can over that done in OPEC countries.

Posted by: FishMonger | July 31, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

What is soooo crazy is that in McCain’s last ad he ridicules paris hilton who’s father is -oh by the way- is a major contributor to his campaign.
Way to go McCain!!!!! Excellent judgement. You are so in touch with your stupidity.

Posted by: Omentum | July 31, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Hillary was the ONLY candidate willing to tell the Truth – the rise in gas prices is the result of the futures market.
A handful of people “deciding” what gas prices will be in 6 months, etc. – and THEY are financially rewarded when the gas prices are HIGHER – not lower.

Posted by: JoseyJ | July 31, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

So once again we have Obama telling the truth and we have guys like Rush Limbaugh constantly try to smear him.

Posted by: susan | July 31, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Obama proves once again that he is the second coming of Jimmy Carter. In 1977, Jimmah said that we would be out of oil by the mid-1980′s and we should start conserving. Reagan reversed his bans on drilling and we were flush with oil for another couple of decades.
I hope Obama keeps touting the conservation-only line. Americans don’t like it, never have, and will send him back to Illinois.

Posted by: Gerald | July 31, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

How about this: McCain can be presdient of the United States, and Obama can be President of the American Automobile Association.

Posted by: mesquito | July 31, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

HonestAbe: “I have been keeping my tires inflated to max recommended psi for years for improved gas mileage. This is common knowledge among the informed.”
That might still be too low in your situation. Those recommendations are made with safety concerns under special circumstances in mind (think snow and sleet in winter). During summertime and in dry regions, you can still pump up the psi.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | July 31, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

How many people left the Cedar Rapids rally driving a truck/SUV that’s less than 2 years old?
My point – cynical as it is – this kind of lecturing makes for great sound bites with cheering fans abound. But, at the end of the day, Americans don’t learn easily. Truck and SUV sales may be down significantly, but I still see people driving them off the dealer lots.
This ‘tip’ is tantamount to telling Americans that they could retire comfortably by saving just 10% of their paycheck each month. People nod their heads, smile, then go to the concession stand and pay with a credit card.
This isn’t a plan…

Posted by: FishMonger | July 31, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

Correction – Missouri rally. I think Obama was in Cedar Rapids today.

Posted by: FishMonger | July 31, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Like I (and many others) have said before, Obama is indeed the second coming of JC – that’s Jimmy Carter, not Jesus Christ. I would imagine that no one under 45 remembers Carter, and guess where most of Obama’s support comes from. Now THAT is scary!
Obama’s “pump up your tires” line is one of the lamest things you can come up with if you are really trying to break the dependence on foreign oil. More evidence that McCain’s “Paris/Brittney/Barack” commercial is right on target.

Posted by: Nick in Virginia | July 31, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

It is interesting that Obama is sticking to pretty SAFE comments. ISRAEL CONSIDERING ATTACKING IRAN – PROFOUND – WHO WOULD DISPUTE THAT? AND NOW – INFLATE TIRES TO SAVE ON GAS? AGAIN, PROFOUND!!
PROBLEM IS….. THAT’S PRETTY MUCH TYPICAL OF OBAMA’S SOLUTION TO INCREASING OUR DOMESTIC PRODUCTION!! WHERE IS THE BEEF? MCCAIN for more drilling and refining. Obama….?

Posted by: Manitu | July 31, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Great fact check article! Very well done. People posting negative comments about Obama on this story are obviously more interested in gaining power than seeking truth. Clowns like Limbaugh and those who shape their personalities to fit his are major threats to truth, justice, and a better society.

Posted by: Jeremy | July 31, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Most of us learned that inflating the tires saves on gas and a general tune up is necessary for the same, but it doesn’t change the price of gas. It just changes the amount you might use. Obama’s argument is accurate only to a point and under the present circumstances it doesn’t make any of us feel any better; especially those of us who already keep our cars in tune and air. We too feel the pinch of the price of petrol.

Posted by: Bette S | July 31, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Well if anyone can speak credibly about inflation it’s Obama. Inflated resume, inflated sense of self – I look forward to the implosion.

Posted by: Joanne600 | July 31, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

HAHAHAHA. So Obama was basically correct.
Now the factcheck on McCain’s claim that offshore drilling would lower gas prices in the near future.
ROTFLMAO.
It won’t even lower gas prices in the *distant* future.
McCain is so toast.
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A strong signal to the markets that we would dramatically increase domestic oil production would make the price drop like a rock. Simple economics.
Obama is toast.

Posted by: John | July 31, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

Joanne600.
OUTSTANDING!! YOU MADE MY NITE! OBAMA – THE EXPERT ON INFLATION!!

Posted by: Manitu | July 31, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

There is one thing that has been completely ignored about our consumption of oil, gas and petroleum. Petroleum is used to manufacture all type of plastics, vinyl, fabrics, cosmetics, furniture, road surfaces–there are thousands of products. When one sees all the plastic items that are tossed after one use, thousands of tons hit our garbage pile every day. Sterofoam cups, plates, water and drink bottle, food containers included in throw-aways. It would be interesting to know how many barrel are used for these.

Posted by: Mary | July 31, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

CHANGE your oil and HOPE gas prices drop.
OHHHHHHHHH – NOW I GET IT!!!!

Posted by: c'est moi | July 31, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

In today’s environment, most cars don’t get tuneups. They change spark pugs every 100,000 miles. They get their air filters checked and their tire pressure checked when they get their oil changed. Obama doesn’t have a plan or a clue. Everything must be on the table, including drilling. One thing for the green wackos to think about – would drilling off the US coast be safer for the world than drilling off the coast of a third world country? These green wackos are just typical NIMBY(Not in my back yard) liberals. We are the most responsible drillers in the world. We should be doing most of the drilling if they cared about the world’s environment.

Posted by: Tim | July 31, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Obama’s refusal to consider additional drilling and his aversion to nuclear power are damaging to his campaign and to the economy.
Interesting how within a very short time after Bush signed the drilling executive order oil and gas prices plunged. While this is not the only reason the prices fell for one to not see it only would indicate one is either unable to be rational or unable to be unbiased.
—I AM WILLING to bet the average REPUBLICAN already does a better job than the average DEM does. When you earn your pay you tend to take care of what you purchase— Rant on

Posted by: Jim | July 31, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

To CLARIFY the average REPUBLICAN Likely does a better job maintaining their tires. —Rant on—

Posted by: Jim | July 31, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Hussein Obama also want to destroy all our nuclear missiles, and reduce our military and create a big civilian police force to police us.
Is this guy crazy?

Posted by: Walter | July 31, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

I miss Hillary. At least she was qualified.

Posted by: SuziQ | July 31, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

The oil that is produced now as well as in the future in the United States will largely be sold to countries like India and China, which is currently being done; it will be dumped into the increasingly demanding world supply. Oil companies will always sell their product so as to gain the highest profit possible. How will this reduce the price of gas for us? McCain is only promoting gimmicks to get elected, just as oil man Bush has done for the past 8 years.

Posted by: Scott | July 31, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

It means that if every American was running around with significantly underinflated tires and improperly tuned cars, then, yes, Sen. Obama is right, the savings from inflating the tires and tuning the cars could arguably match or exceed current output from the OCS.
For you idiots that are reading that Obama was right read again.This assumption is not even close to being true. It was a stupid remark

Posted by: Corky | July 31, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Whether BO’s claim is true or not, it is not practical.
How are you all of a sudden going to get all these people that haven’t been checking their tire pressure once a month to start?
It’s not going to happen, and so is not relevant.

Posted by: Shebla Tsama | July 31, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

Let us hope this is his Dukakis’ moment! Let us all line up at the air pump instead of the gas pump and give our money to the tune-up guy instead of the gas guy! I believe that most Americans are responsible drivers and regularly do both those things – primarily for the safety of their families and for the longevity of their cars!

Posted by: Beckie | July 31, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

Everyone keeps talking about oil and drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. I live in Florida and I don’t believe there should be anymore drilling there. One oil spill like in Alaska and goodby to tourism. Why not Electric cars? There was thousands in California in 2003, but The Great (Ha!Ha!)George Bush had them all recalled and CRUSHED, because it was costing the Oil Co’s & Car co’s too much money. You can get the Video named “who killed The Electric Car. from your favorite Video store.

Posted by: Bob | July 31, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

The percentages of saved gas the author makes are theoretical maximums. MSN even had an article testing whether a clean or dirty air filter would have a large change in fuel economy. They barely showed a 0.5% change. Cut in half the other percentages for an average and you are looking at maybe 5% increase. So actually looking at 19 million gallons instead of 68 which translates into 450,000 barrels of oil. With current oil tech it is estimated OCS production would quadruple increase to about 5 million barrels. Far more than half a million saved if everyone tuned up. This doesn’t include Alaska and oil shale. Obama should go back to college and take some math, he needs it.

Posted by: Mike | July 31, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

Inflating our tires might help at an individual level.
But it does nothing to affect supply and demand and that is THE issue with respect to energy.
It does nothing to diversify our energy sources. Obama is really grasping here.

Posted by: None of the Above 08 | July 31, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

Hillary was the ONLY candidate willing to tell the Truth – the rise in gas prices is the result of the futures market.
A handful of people “deciding” what gas prices will be in 6 months, etc. – and THEY are financially rewarded when the gas prices are HIGHER – not lower.
Posted by: JoseyJ | Jul 31, 2008 5:52:40 PM
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Apparently you are not familiar with short sales. You can make money by betting that a price will go lower.
And FWIW, the price of oil has decreased over the last few weeks. The regulation over the futures market has not increased in that same period of time.
Global demand is down as is domestic demand.
I guess supply and demand really ARE involved.

Posted by: None of the Above 08 | July 31, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

What’s the unintended consequences of increasing air pressure in tires? More wear and tear. Less traction. More accidents in sloppy road conditions. Perhaps more loss of human life. My wish is for Obama to keep talking without aid of a teleprompter. Just keep talking, Barry. McCain is breathing down your neck. He’s going to win in a landslide.

Posted by: Robin B | July 31, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

It’s called supply and demand. When supply increases prices go down. When supply decreases prices go up. When demand increases then prices go up. When demand decreases prices go down.
It’s basic economics. Now if only we could get the 2 geniuses currently running for President to sit down and read an Econ 101 textbook.

Posted by: None of the Above 08 | July 31, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

I drive about 50 miles per day. If I do all of these, what size container do I need to keep in my auto to store the extra gas I need siphon off to keep my tank from overfilling?

Posted by: smith | July 31, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

Obama is running for the job of President of the United States.
Currently, the President is paid a salary of $400,000 per year.
Telling us all to get regular tune-ups and keep our tires inflated is good advice.
But it’s still not worth $400,000.

Posted by: sinz52 | July 31, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

Will putting more air in my tires heat my home this winter? I live in New England and the winters are bitter. My thermostat is never higher than 64 during the day and 60 at night. I am never warm in the winter and I don’t look forward to 60 and 56 but I am sure Mr. Obama’s home is much warmer than that.

Posted by: vicki | August 1, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

What knowledge do you have about taking 10 to 20 years to bring oil on line? Or, are we just stating the propoganda that is coming from our democratic congress?
It’s time to hear all the experts who can give us the immediate solution that is going to solve our energy problem NOW? How many windmills can you get set up to take care of our problem NOW? How many solar panels NOW? Since you are against nuclear we won’t ask you to use those immediately. Oh that’s right, we’re going conserve our way out of this problem. Answer, start walking or ride your horse if you don’t think that is cruelty to animals. Let’s find out where Mr. Gore has his money invested. Could it be alternative energy?

Posted by: Don | August 1, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Might I suggest checking for excessive tire wear. I recently discovered a mechanic had not completed an axle bearing repair correctly resulting in misalignment. I finally detected the problem due to high tire wear … AND a 10% loss in fuel economy!
You can laugh and poke fun at Obama, but his statements were and are not out of line!
Some have proposed that the recent decline in the price of crude is a result of Pres. Bush rescinding the Executive Order preventing off-shore drilling.
I suggest the decline in crude prices is the result of “discovering” a few days before Bush’s action, that the US driving public had reduced fuel consumption a little more than 2% in the last few months and gasoline inventories were increasing surprisingly rapidly.

Posted by: 44 mpg by 2010 | August 1, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am

1.25 million barrels is extremely conservative.
Drill both coasts and the Gulf and it becomes mch more than that.

Posted by: drjohn | August 1, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am

Now, if we, the US consumer, had TRUE “fuel frugal” vehicles available for purchase by those that wanted them, then We might be able to put a real “dent” in oil imports and the $700 or $800 BILLION those imports cost ANNUALLY.
What WE need are some US built vehicles like the 70, and MORE, machines currently available in the UK/EU from Ford and GM/Vauxhall that are rated by VCA … BETWEEN 42/51 and 58/69 mpg(US/Imperial) combined cycle.
These types of machines could reduce fuel consumption by up to 60%, and possibly more, compared to the current typical Detroit3 offering. Also, most of these machines are more “fuel frugal” than the Prius.
By the way, this is specifically a question of PERSONAL choice … not a “forced CAFE” standard that is currently “broken” due to all of the exception, exemptions, and special credits.
Further, for those that are concerned that diesel is not CLEAN enough, I point out that both Mercedes and VW will have California compliant vehicles in the US in 2008. That will be followed in 2009 and 2010 by companies like Audi, BMW, Honda, Nissan … and others. Sadly, so far … no word (hope?) from the Detroit3!

Posted by: 44 mpg by 2010 | August 1, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am

These estimated savings aren’t aggregate. You might see savings individually but it is ridiculous to hypothesize an aggregate across an ENTIRE population. What if we all made sure our tires were filled up AND drilled? And pursued coal, nuclear, wind, solar and wave power??? Ah, but that is a solution, and what Obama and his cronies want is for us to be dependent on the government. Where is all this “CHANGE” we’ve been hearing about???

Posted by: Drom | August 1, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

The GOP and Sen John McStupid are taking shot at Sen Obama’s comments about car tires, but his comments are accurate. Sen McCan’t proposed we start offshore drilling for oil to decrease our dependence on foreign oil, well that’s not going to help anyone in the near term. One more thing, Sen McFlopper was previous against offshore drilling. Forgive me, I just had a senior moment like Sen McBush, I forgot he’s in the middle of a campaign and will say anything to get elected. A vote for Sen McSame is saying you want four more years of the current administration…It’s time for a change!

Posted by: whcjr46 | August 1, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

All this snide rejection of taking personal responsibility for your gasoline consumption from the Republicans…you know, the party of personal responsibility. Oh, and all this begging the Federal Government to fix the cost of oil from the Republicans…you know, the party of small government. Oh, and the utter lack of statements like “if you don’t like the price of gas, stop buying it and the free market forces will adjust the price” coming from the Republicans…you know, the “laissez faire” party.
What do you guys stand for, again?

Posted by: janne | August 1, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

Seems to me keeping your car tuned and tires inflated to save close to 1 million barrels is factual in theoretical terms. It is a mathematical exercise where all other factors (age of car, model, condition of tires, condition of roads, cost to car owners, time spent on check-ups, repairs, etc.) are not factored in in real terms.

Posted by: hype bites | August 1, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Your fuel economy figures are a bit off. First of all, the 4% savings for a properly tuned car is not a maximum, it is the average. And, they note that serious problems could cause inefficiencies of up to 40%. Also, there is a savings for slightly underinflated tires, not just seriously underinflated tires. Your link to fueleconomy.gov is broken too.

Posted by: lMike | August 1, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Teh oil companies are not drilling in 80% of the areas they currently hold leases in. The current fight for more leases is simply a means to further control the supply, and thus enable them to raise prices more.

Posted by: Mike | August 1, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

Robin B said: “What’s the unintended consequences of increasing air pressure in tires? More wear and tear. Less traction. More accidents in sloppy road conditions.”
Uh, you’re talking about OVER-inflated tires. Tires at the *correct* operating pressure are engineering to have the best compromise of all attributes. And in fact, higher pressures in the wet and snow actually *help* grip up to a point. I model tires in software for auto manufacturers, I should know.

Posted by: Franklin | August 2, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

Obama has to be the most idiotic person ever to run for ANY office, let alone for President of the United States.
plus, it’s obvious that, in this “recession” economy, most people can’t AFFORD to have their cars tuned on a regular basis, in addition to getting the right kind of tires and keeping them properly inflated.
I think the government should pay for our car tune-ups, as well as our tires.
Besides, we need air to BREATHE, we can’t be using it all up just on tires!!!

Posted by: BD | August 2, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am

“All this snide rejection of taking personal responsibility for your gasoline consumption from the Republicans…you know, the party of personal responsibility.”
I don’t think anyone was rejecting the idea that properly inflating tires will increase gas mileage. What they (we) are rejecting is the frankly idiotic assertion that such a move would save an amount of fuel anywhere near what would be available through an expansion of OCS/ANWR drilling, as well as the arrogant implication that even if such a savings were possible, it would absolve Congress of the responsibility of action.
“Oh, and the utter lack of statements like ‘if you don’t like the price of gas, stop buying it and the free market forces will adjust the price’ coming from the Republicans…you know, the ‘laissez faire’ party.”
I follow this stuff pretty closely, and I’ve never heard anyone say such a ludicrous thing, particularly not anyone in any authoritative position within the Republican party. The closest I’ve seen anyone come are those stupid “let’s stick it to the oil companies by not buying gas next Thursday” forwarded emails. But let’s see, which party’s stock in trade is it to sow discontent against oil companies?
“Oh, and all this begging the Federal Government to fix the cost of oil from the Republicans…you know, the party of small government.”
This is the real howler in your post. You couldn’t have possibly gotten the situation more backwards. Begging the government to “fix” the cost of oil? The vast majority of Americans, including nearly all Republicans, are asking government to GET OUT OF THE WAY by repealing bans that they have enacted against energy development. No one on this side is asking the government to provide them with oil. We’re asking the government to stop prohibiting private entities from doing so. How could this distinction be any more clear?

Posted by: Big Daddy Matty | August 2, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

why not go back to the Electric Car that came out about 10 years ago? You can get the movie on DVD or go to Who Killed the Electric Car on Google. This is really the answer to the oil problem.

Posted by: Bob | August 2, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

Bob: Two reasons: First, GM spent over a billion dollars to develop that car, and they were only able to lease about 1,000 of them (that’s at least $1,000,000 per car, for those playing at home). The cars had really bad battery life, which is still the problem today. If you want an electric car, you can now get one from companies like Tesla, but it will cost you an amount in the six figures, meaning that you’ll spend MUCH more than you’ll save on gas.
Second, the same environmentalists that own the likes of Pelosi and Reid are opposed to the two best sources of electric power, nuclear and coal. If we were to, en masse, switch over to electric cars, the power grids couldn’t possibly handle it.
Face it, folks: for the semi-long-term future, the answer is still fossil fuels. We should be doing all the alt energy stuff we can, but it has to be an “and,” not an “or.”

Posted by: Big Daddy Matty | August 2, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

Isn’t the statement Senator Obama making a comparison of oil that WOULD be produced from drilling in the Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) versus the amount of oil saved by proper tire inflation (and tuneups if you want to include them in the comparison)? He is not making a comparison between CURRENT offshore production versus tire inflation and tuneup savings. Let’s do that comparison. What will we get from removing OCS drilling restrictions per day, and when will we get it?
The Energy Information Administration estimates that drilling in the OCS will add 200,000 barrels per day, in the year 2030.
200,000 in 2030. Not tomorrow, not next year, not this decade. 22 years from now. Five presidential elections from now.
How much will merely properly inflating tires save, TODAY, through conservation?
27% of cars have underinflated tires, defined by NHTSA as 8 or more psi below the recommended inflation level.
Underinflated tires reduce miles per gallon (MPG) .4% per 1 psi drop in pressure.
27% of cars would see an IMMEDIATE MPG increase of 3.2%, across the nation, a .864% reduction in gasoline consumption, an total savings of 3.28 million gallons of gasoline PER DAY by simply properly inflating the tires.
After refining, a barrel (42 gallons) of oil yields 19.6 gallons of gasoline.
It takes 172,800 barrels of oil to generate 3.28 millions gallons of gasoline.
Merely properly inflating tires TODAY will save almost a much oil per day as drilling in the OCS will produce in 22 years.
All of a sudden, Senator Obama’s statement that “…we could save all the oil that they’re talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much” is remarkably accurate.
If we accept the estimate from Frank Verrastro that we could save up to 10% of gasoline consumption with simple maintenance, we could save 38 million gallons of gas per, or 2 million barrels of oil (after refining), a multiple of drilling in the OCS.

Posted by: Kris | August 2, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Kris: Hogwash. Obama’s statement was that the savings would be equal to “all the oil [drilling advocates are] talking about getting off drilling.” You’re using a number that represents an estimate of what the government believes will be produced, at a time 22 years from now, from spots currently open to drilling.
The truth is, the OCS is estimated to have 18 billion barrels of oil, although it certainly has more, since the exploration that would find more is largely prohibited. (I’m not even going to include oil shale, which is predicted to be able to produce the equivalent of 2.1 TRILLION barrels of crude.) That’s 352.8 billion gallons of gas. By your calculations, proper tire inflation would save 1.2 billion gallons of gas per year.
So, in the end, Obama’s assertion is technically true. Inflating your tires would save as much gas as would be produced by OCS drilling–it’ll just take 294 years to do so.

Posted by: Big Daddy Matty | August 3, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

Hey Big Daddy Matty,
Sorry, no hogwashing here. The estimate for 200,000 barrels per day production from the Energy Information Administration (EIA) assumes that the moratorium on drilling restrictions is ended AND “that local infrastructure issues and other potential non-Federal impediments will be resolved after Federal access restrictions have been lifted.”
By the way, the EIA is the source of the 18 billion barrel estimate you quote. Typepad strips URLs, but the title of the EIA report is “Impacts of Increased Access to Oil and Natural Gas Resources in the Lower 48 Federal Outer Continental Shelf.” It’s worth reading.
As to accessing that 18 billion barrels of crude, it’s not waiting under some big red government “don’t turn this spigot on” warning label. It will take decades to find and extract 18 billion barrels. For purposes of comparison, production of the existing 41 billion barrels of crude available for leasing in the Gulf of Mexico is less than 2 million barrels per day. At that rate, it will take 56 years to extract.
I don’t remember Senator Obama making any comparisons to oil shale, but I suppose we could ask Estonia how that’s working out for their environment. While we’re discussing hypotheticals, I don’t understand why we don’t all drive cars powered by Mr. Fusion Energy Reactors instead of worrying about fossil fuels at all.
Until then, we can all take some very simple individual actions today that will make a meaningful and immediate difference.
So, Senator Obama’s statement is “technically true!” Is that the same as “true?”

Posted by: Kris | August 3, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

100 year wars are better than keeping an eye on your tire pressure.

Posted by: True American | August 4, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

I think a more valid comparison, if you want to really run the numbers, is gasoline use to 2030 or beyond. Obama said that by doing simple things like tire inflation and tunes ups, we could save as much oil as “they’re talking about getting off drilling”. He didn’t say “per day”.
Seems to me that a more valid comparison, if you really want to do the numbers, is taking the estimated oil available from the OCS and comparing that to the oil saved by inflation and tune ups over the time period it would take to extract all that OCS oil.
The White house says there are approximately 18 B barrels of oil in the OCS. It seems unlikely all of that would be extracted in less than 40 years, and probably more like 60. 800,000 barrels a day saved over 60 years equals 18 B barrels, or the total estimated oil content of the OCS.
Sorry guys, but Obama was right.

Posted by: pdq | August 4, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

I can’t believe people are doing the calculations on what has to be one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard.
Hey, maybe with enogh conservation & math, we won’t need any oil at all.

Posted by: Jack | August 4, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Have been maintaining proper tire pressures for years along with proper alignment and tire rotation. Yes there is a small savings in miles per gallon! A major savings for me, is increased tire life. No preamature tire wear and blowouts. Underinflated tires have a habit of blowing out from overheating.
They claim that every tire manufactured requires 1+ quart of oil to manufacture. Have you noticed how tire prices have gone up with the rising fuel prices. If everyone increased tire life by an X amount. Less oil would be required to manufactur tires.
Would love to see the amount of oil used per year to manufacture tires.

Posted by: Charlie | August 4, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

An automobile tire weighs about 20 pounds, with a diameter ranging from 18-30 inches. In addition to rubber, a tire contains some steel in the bead and some rayon or steel in the belt. An average tire is produced from about 2.5 gallons of petroleum, making it a good source of heat energy. Shredded or chipped tires, without their steel belts, have an energy content ranging from 14,000 to 15,000 Btu per pound. Coal has an energy content of 8,000 to 12,000 Btu per pound.
the 2.5 gallons is just in the mix
“The ‘x’ factors here are the fact that Sen. Obama used both tire inflation and tune ups in his remarks, and no one knows what volume you could/would get from additional drilling in the outer continental shelf,” Verrastro says.
As of now, all we have for the OCS are resource estimates, but no production.
Current crude oil and condensate production in the OCS is about 1.25 million barrels per day.
…..and I am sure there are production estimates out there too. It is intellectually dishonest to use the current offshore production numbers in this calculation. That number DOES NOT represent the production increase if the restricted areas are opened up.
anybody that believes that there are no production estimates for these areas is in a coma or something. I would think that in the case of Verrastro the something else would apply.
what I want to know is just how much the price at the pump will be affected if the restricted parts of OCS is opened to production

Posted by: walter66 | August 4, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Vicki – I’m sure John McCain’s several HOMES will be warmer than that, too. Your point?

Posted by: Scientific | August 4, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Walter66–The Energy Information Administration (EIA) has produced estimates of the production increase if the restricted areas are opened up. The title of the study is “”Impacts of Increased Access to Oil and Natural Gas Resources in the Lower 48 Federal Outer Continental Shelf.”
Production will come on line very slowly, and in the year 2030, the additional production from drilling in the now prohibited Outer Continental Shelf will be 200,000 barrels per day–just about exactly what we’d save if all tires were properly inflated.
According to the EIA, “any impact on average wellhead prices is expected to be insignificant.”

Posted by: Kris | August 4, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

Here is a link to a government site that says new drilling would provide only 200,000 barrels a day AT ITS PEAK, which would be in 2030. It also says “any impact on average wellhead prices is expected to be insignificant.”
ABC should immediately retract this story, which uses a cheap statistical trick to make someone look bad.

Posted by: Jack | August 5, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am

So many rediculous posts.
McCain supports off-shore drilling and conservation methods in order to lessen our dependancy on foreign oil whil we develop alternative fuels. It will take time to implement new fuels and change our culture and our oil based economy.
Obama thinks tune-ups and properly inflated tires will significantly reduce our oil dependancy so that we can pursue alternative fuels without drilling for new oil. If we decide not to drill, oil futures will skyrocket and we will be paying $10 a gallon within 2-3 years.
With our own oil, we can impose sanctions on Iran without fear of them cutting of 40% of the worlds oil. And after we develop alternative fuels, we will be in position to sell our oil in the world market. With a little competetion, oil prices around the world will fall.
One last thing to the knuckleheads that say “Why aren’t the oil compnaies drilling on the rest of the land that is leased to them?”. There is no oil there!

Posted by: Jim C | August 5, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

OK, so as any gearhead knows properly inflating our tires saves us gas. Your guy at fueleconomy.gov says it will save us 800 thousand barrels per day.
The DOE says at “For the lower 48 OCS, annual crude oil production in 2030 is projected to be 7 percent higher—2.4 million barrels per day in the OCS access case compared with 2.2 million barrels per day in the reference case.” That’s 200 thousand barrels a day.
So doesn’t that mean Obama is right? The DOE estimate for oil gained by off shore drilling in 2030 is 600 thousand barrels less than the 800 thousand barrels we’d easily save today with routine car maintenance?

Posted by: Eric | August 5, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

Great. Most certainly we can maintaing our cars appropriately, but let’s not fool ourselves. We can’t inflate ourselves out of this.
Using the same logic as the folks that say “all that oil might go overseas anyway”, will not our savings from proper inflation be sucked up by overseas interests anyway?
I just don’t see how increasing the supply is a bad thing. I’d rather start now.

Posted by: KPC | August 5, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

And when can we get thay OCS if we start today? 2017? So 800,000 per day now, for the next 9 years, is probably greater than what will come on line at that point. You only did 1/2 the calculation. What is the OCS volume as it comes on line? What are estimates?

Posted by: Constantone | August 5, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

WOW! You guys can debate and figure costs and savings till the cows come home, but the fact remains the cost of maintaining the National Tire Pressure and Engine Tune-up Police Force to guarantee the savings Mr. Obama contends, would far outweigh the savings. I vote we all try to be as responsible as possible and maintain our tire pressure and have regular tune ups not only saving fuel dollars but help to reduce our dependence. But just as speed limits and fines and increased insurance premiums haven’t done much to reduce speeding, I don’t think the savings in gas will cause every one to rush out and service their cars. So, once more, we need action on the part of our government to save us from ourselves, and those like Mr. Obama who don’t really understand us. Drill here, Drill now, Drill the OCS, drill the oil shale, and drill in the ANWR, while the nuclear, clean coal, wind, solar and bio fuel sources can be developed. Although the drilling will take a few years to really produce, any thing we do to conserve now, will have an immediate effect. That includes tax breaks for conservation, by promoting more efficient cars, appliances, new homes, improvements to older homes etc. The signal we send to the markets of our committment to a total energy policy WILL reduce oil prices in the short term.

Posted by: The Wiz | August 5, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Here’s a major problem your conclusions that I spotted right off the bat. This is part of what you wrote:
“Since American drivers use roughly 380 million gallons of gasoline (not including diesel) per day, an 18% improvement translates into a savings of 68 million gallons, or 1.62 million barrels of oil per day.”
NO, nope, not even close! 68 million gallons of gasoline is roughly equal to about 3.4 million barrels of oil per day. Crude oil (of the higher grades, known as “light/sweet” because of its low sulfur/acid content only converts to gasoline at a rate of about 20 gallons of gas, per 42 gallon barrel of crude.
Secondly, you are not factoring in at all, the amount of energy required (expended) in exploration, drilling, building rigs and drilling machinery, transporting it to the site, drilling (and of course building, supplying and powering up all the necessary manpower, offices, computers, etc. necessary to run such an operation), pumping, transporting, refining, transporting to the blender and finally to the gas stations for the end consumer.
The DOE says that means that you only, in terms of net energy balance, end up with about 43% of the energy content contained originally in that crude oil.
Thus, for every 42 gallon barrel of oil, you end up with about 10 gallons of Net energy product in the form of gasoline.
I knew you didn’t know what you were talking about when you equated a direct linear constant between crude oil and gasoline in that sentence. Unless you factor in the energy required to acquire that crude, transport it, refine it and get it to the consumer in the form of gasoline, you aren’t coming close to creating a valid comparison with the idea of conserving the same amount of gasoline.
Every gallon saved through conservation, equals roughly 4 gallons of crude oil. Considering that conservartion would start paying benefits today, it makes your take on this even further off, as it would be years before a single drop of oil would be created from (ANWR as an example) and a total of about 40 years to fully extract the crude from there.

Posted by: kevin | August 5, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

Kevin,
I think that you are onto something here, although I believe that you stopped short of totaling all the relevant factors.
If we are going to discuss the savings from tire inflation, you need to factor in the costs to operate the air hose and the gas station that hosts said air hose(and of course building, supplying and powering up all the necessary manpower, offices, computers, etc. necessary to run such an operation).
Of course, tune ups bear there own respective cost structure that indeed parallels that of the air hose.
Kevin, I’m just not smart enough to put that all together coherently here in this comment, but I’m fairly certain that in addition to conservation, our petroleum based economy could use some more oil.

Posted by: Tim | August 6, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

Its also worth noting that this was a throwaway line from Obama-its not like tire gauges are part of his energy plan in any meaningful sense-this debate has nothing to do with the primary difference between Obama and McCain-which in a nutshell is Obama: financial incentives for renewable energy and large scale efficiency improvements at the expense of oil and gas exploration vs. McCain: government money focused on increased drilling and nuclear power. The end.
This debate is about Obama making a comment about how little oil (compared to the amount we use) is left to be drilled on the contenental shelf (according to most estimates).

Posted by: StlPastor | August 6, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

I suggest the decline in crude prices is the result of “discovering” a few days before Bush’s action, that the US driving public had reduced fuel consumption a little more than 2% in the last few months and gasoline inventories were increasing surprisingly rapidly.

Posted by: Tim | August 6, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

I don’t think any car made in the last 20 years needs a “tuneup” any time before 100,000 miles. The last car I owned with a carburator was made in 1984 and the last car with points and condensor, as opposed to electronic ignition was in the early 1970′s.
This shows how out of touch Obama is. His limo driver takes care of that sutff for him. Most American men understand about oil changes, inflating tires, etc already and don’t need Obama’s handlers making it sound like they invented the wheel.

Posted by: ben | August 6, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

With the 10% ethanol blend gasoline, you get 3% less gas mileage, so it’s the alternative idiots solution to the other problem they caused.

Posted by: th | August 6, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

I’m highly skeptical of the claimed savings for both tuneups and tire pressures. For one, the there is no way the gas mileage savings on tire pressure would be linear.
I suspect these “facts” were established many years ago without any rechecking.
I do know that I track my gas mileage. My tires were under inflated last fall. Inflated them did nothing to mileage. I got a full tuneup in February. Did nothing to mileage, though my brakes work great now. Bottom line to me is that Honda Civics are damn good cars and Kumho tires damn good tires.

Posted by: Joe | August 6, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

The only way that you can accurately and properly inflate your tires is to do it when they are cold, after you drive to the gas station they have warmed up and you can no longer get the correct pressure. Check your owners manual. Now that means the first thing everyone will have to do is put a compressor in their garage so they can check the pressure and then inflate their tires. Of course you could drive to the nearest tire inflation station and let you car sit for several hours while the tires cool down. By the way you need to buy your own tire gauge because the ones in gas stations are usually off by several pounds because of the abuse they receive. Is this practical or even doable? I think not but it does show how little Obama knows about this subject, but is still ready to shoot off his mouth. (And yes I do have a compressor in my garage and yes I do check and inflate my tires when they are cold.)

Posted by: Jim Hurley | August 6, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Obama never said a word about tune ups (which as several have pointed out aren’t done any more), and they assumed that everyone has underinflated tires, which is clearly contradicted by their own data, and then they use the most pessimistic estimates of OCS capacity, to arrive at a desired conclusion that is ludicrous.
Please…

Posted by: Self-hating boomer | August 6, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Kevin said:
“Every gallon saved through conservation, equals roughly 4 gallons of crude oil. ”
The hyperbole is getting a bit ridiculous here. Can we cease and desist?

Posted by: Self-hating boomer | August 6, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

If I had any faith that Obama regularly checks the air pressure in his own tires I might give some credence to his statement. However, I doubt he has even driven his own car since he became a Senator – and may not even own a car, for that matter.
This is just another classic example of a Limousine Liberal preaching to the “little people”, sort of an updated version of “Let them eat cake!” (the difference being, the latter story is a myth: Marie Antoinette wasn’t dumb enough to say something like that. But Obama was.) I’d like to ask Barry if a 65-year old grandmother, who can’t afford to use a full service gas station on the pitance Social Security provides, is supposed to get down on her knees once a week and check the pressure in her tires, or if Mr. Obama will volunteer to do it for her?

Posted by: Orion | August 6, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

I’m a little confused. Kevin and one other person has asserted some strange beliefs that one barrel of oil (42 gallons) winds up with either 12 or 19.6 gallons of gas.
If one barrel is 12 gallons, and a barrel was recently selling for $147, then gas would sell at a wholesale price of $12.25.
If one barrel is 20 gallons, and a barrel was recently selling for $147, then gas would wholesale for $7.50 a gallon.
Since none of these figures include allowances for taxes (about $ 0.50 a gallon or more) or dealer markups (surprisingly low, I think about $ 0.20 a gallon) it seems like they have to be wrong because at the time oil was $147 a barrel, gas was actually selling at retail in most places for $3.99 a gallon.
Right now, with oil at around $120/bbl, and gas at about $ 3.90 a gallon, a barrel must yield at least 30 gallons. Subtract out approximate taxes and markup and you get about $3.30 a gallon or about 36.36 gallons per barrel.
Since there are also refining costs and wholesaler and oil company profits to add, I come to the conclusion that it’s extremely likely that the exchange price is based on usable gasoline and not simply unrefined crude oil.
Or perhaps anything that’s taken out is replaced by additives put in, like the 10% ethanol that’s now in most gas.
So if I were making any estimates of savings, I would use the full 42 gallons per barrel of oil.
One point often left out of arguments like this is that we only know the oil we explore. We look for oil, and when we find it, it’s recorded. If we are not going to drill offshore, we will not look for it there. So you will know the actual volume of oil produced, whether offshore or in ANWR, only when you open it up for exploration.
This is why you hear the two sides arguing “There are billions of gallons in ANWR, why don’t we explore it” and “There’s not enough oil in ANWR to fill a teacup”. The reality is that it’s likely that there are huge amounts of oil in ANWR but we will not know for sure until we go there and find out. The first guy is using his best guess as to how much is down there, the second guy is using only official, “proven” figures. The truth is likely to be in between, but likely to be far, far higher than the pessimist.
Personally, I’d like to see a common sense solution to this problem: Let the individual state governments decide, in conjunction with those who live there. In the case of Alaska. this would mean ANWR would be opened up for exploration almost immediately. The handful of people masochistic enough to live up there in the cold would have their lives dramatically improved for the better by drilling revenues.
The people who say how much they love the pristine wilderness will never come there to visit, and there are good reasons for this.
Even during the summer it is bone-chillingly cold, and there are no Whole Foods Markets or Four Seasons Hotels to make your visit pleasant. If you are truly insane or curious enough to want to come up there, the handful of available tours cost more than $10,000 per week, and conditions are such that they all but require physical examinations to make sure you’re going to be able to make it back.
Trust me, if you want natural beauty you’ll find more on Richard Branson’s Necker Island or, if you insist on not spending $50,000 a week, Bermuda.
California and Florida might still be forever restricted from drilling under this scenerio. Their diversified economies are sufficiently vibrant so that drilling would not make the lottery winner impact it would on ANWR.
I believe Governor Swarzenegger happens to own a home in Pacific Palisades valued in the millions of dollars and I can’t blame him if he doesn’t want to see an oil rig as part of his sweeping ocean view. If I had that kind of money and view I might feel the same way. Although when I did live in Santa Barbara with an ocean view, I actually liked seeing the oil rigs with their twinkling lights offsetting the dark of the ocean at night. So maybe we should ask him to give rigs a chance. Might even grow on him.
Oil drilling technology has improved and it would not surprise me if oil companies and drilling opponents could make a fair accommodation. Here in Pennsylvania we have side drilling for natural gas and it’s barely visible on the surface. Technology marches on.
D

Posted by: David Dennis | August 6, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

Gee I was wondering why we needed all those wind turbines in tornado alley. Now I know, we will sail our cars to the Midwest to fill our tires.

Posted by: FRS | August 6, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Jim Hurley said:
“The only way that you can accurately and properly inflate your tires is to do it when they are cold, after you drive to the gas station they have warmed up and you can no longer get the correct pressure. … Now that means the first thing everyone will have to do is put a compressor in their garage so they can check the pressure and then inflate their tires.”
Actually there’s a much cheaper solution than having your own air compressor. Buy a tire pressure gage and measure your tires while they are cold to determine how much extra air they need. Then go to the gas station, remeasure them (now that they’ve warmed up), and add the corresponding incremental percentages of air. It won’t be exact (since you’re adding cold air to warm air) but it will be close.
This does not mean that I think we should substitute conservation for more oil exploration and energy production. It just means that some conservation measures such as proper tire inflation do not require a lot of expensive equipment. It just requires investing your time.
I don’t usually bother. My time is generally more valuable to me than shaving tiny fractions off of my energy costs. If gasoline gets up to $5 or $6 per gallon I may reconsider. Other people with a lower price point trade-off may choose to invest their time now in conservation efforts.
Let’s leave it up to individual choices. Get government out of the way of oil and shale exploitation; eliminate arbitrary regulations and environmental restrictions which have no substantive value; reduce tax rates so as to encourage investment and technical innovation; and allow the free market to operate.

Posted by: Daniel Wiener | August 6, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

You say: “Survey information from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration shows that 27% of the cars on the road have a significantly under-inflated tire.” The operative word is “a”. The fueleconomy.gov site says 27% have “1 or more” underinflated ttires.
The fueleconomy.gov site further says: “Under-inflated tires can lower gas mileage by 0.4 percent for every 1 psi drop in pressure *of all four tires*.”
You then tacitly assume that all of those vehicles with underinflated tires have all four tires underinflated by an average of 7.5 psi to get your 3% savings.
This does not compute. The savings from everyone properly inflating their tires
is going to be miniscule.

Posted by: Bart | August 6, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

Considering the feasibility of getting everybody in this country with a car to keep it getting its top mileage every day of the year, I’d say offshore drilling is a whole lot easier. This kind of “fact checking” is not really useful, because Mr. Verrastro’s maximum (estimated) fuel economy isn’t really a choice.
If we quit burning fossil fuels, would global warming be reversed? What difference does it make? People have always burned fuel to make their lives better. Getting them to stop is a fool’s errand, and so is expecting people to check their tire pressure every time they drive. It’s a bureaucratic fix, but it’s also a nuisance most people will skip.

Posted by: AST | August 6, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

After reading through a lot of these comments, a few things that need to be corrected, mostly about the Energy Information Administration Study:
1st, the 200,000 barrels per day number is an estimate of what could be economically recovered if the oil price were only $60 per barrel in 2030. That’s right, $60 per barrel. At today’s price of roughly $120 per barrel, 10 times or more of this amount could be viably recovered. The study was obviously WAY off of where it assumed oil prices would be. Just one year into the 30 year projection, it’s wrong by a mere $70 per barrel.
So the “proof” that Obama is right hinges on the assumption that nearly every car in America has under-inlfated tires with idiots for owners that needed Obama to remind them to inflate them AND that barely any of the OCS oil would be retreivable because oil will be at $50 to $60 per barrel for the next 25 years.
2nd, the only reason 2030 is even cited is that’s how far out the study went. It probably wasn’t lost on some that many people would just assume that 2030 is the first year any oil would come online, and the comments on this board prove them right. After all, who would actually go through the trouble to check the report for themselves? So in fact, 2030 is NOT the first year any oil would be seen. Instead, the study assumes the first oil would come online in 10 years (where have you heard this number before?). Of course, this 10 year estimate is also driven partly by the rediculously low estimate of what oil prices would be. Not hard to figure out that it will be easier to economically recover oil much sooner with oil prices being higher.
Powerline blog did just a little bit of research (i.e. actually read the study) and raised these basic points.
3rd, to those that don’t get why drilling for oil that won’t arrive until some time in the future could lower prices now: the mere knowledge that supplies will increase in the future will impact prices TODAY. Anyone with any marginal capacity to pump oil now will do it BEFORE additional supplies come online …thereby increasing supplies now. Without any additional capacity opening up, there is little incentive for the CARTELs to spend a dime more to open capacity today. The big run-up in price in just the last year indicates how quickly prices can respond to changes in supply/demand outlook.
Lastly, before anyone brings up the argument that the signaling effect of opening new capacity would be so wildly successful, that oil prices would drop too low to profitably recover enough oil from the OCS (creating a bizarre circular loop)….it wouldn’t.

Posted by: Brian | August 7, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

Please people – we need oil, and we need it for the forseeable future. So – how do we get it – drill, produce from oil shale – whatever we have to do. Conservation by inflating tires may save a small amout of gasoline, but in the grand scheme of things – not a hell-of-a-lot. Drill on the outer continnental shelf – the inner continental shelf – wherever the seismic tests and geology tell us there are vast pools of oil. We must go for it.
If it hurts your scenic view – so be it – it’s better than having families not be able to drive to work, or cut down on their food because they have to pay $4.00 for a gallon of gasoline.
If there is an oil spill (and there may not be one, remember) – we will clean it up, and, excuse me, if a relatively few fish or sea gulls die, that’s the price we (they(?)) will pay. More fish and sea gulls will come along. That’s the way of nature – they reproduce. I’d rather that happen than have people not be able to heat their homes. (Remember – it may not happen – consider that the worst case scenarion will not happen)You want more domestic oil – turn the oil companies loose to do what they do best – find, produce and deliver oil. It’ll take a few years to get into full swing, but remember – if Pres. Clinton had not vetoed the ANWAR drilling bill, ten + years ago – that oil would be available today. We can’t go back – but let’s not make the same mistake twice.
Stop worrying about how much will be saved by properly inflating tires. America is in crisis – and it must act while it can.
Remember the old poem:
“No matter what your aim in life,
No matter what your goal,
Keep your eye upon the donut,
and not upon the hole.”
The goal is to get more domestic oil. Everything else is a side show.
I know this is not a politicaly correct solution – danger to those furry little pelicans, or fish, etc. – but sometimes the risk is well worth the reward.
Of course – solar, wind, coal etc. must be pursued – but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t drill, drill, drill. There is no reasonable alternative, no matter what anyone says.

Posted by: Concerned One | August 7, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

Assuming the stats above are accurate, it assumes “perfection” in execution. If we are going to assume (or really fantasize) perfection why stop there? How many people take the less perfect way to their destination? People should optimize their gas usage by correct formulas of distance, speed, constancy of speed, lights etc. Lets do a Jimmy Carter and lower the speed limit by 20% on every road (or 30%). Let’s require minimum mpg usage for every automobile which is legal (this is like a “free market” cap and trade system). In fact Gore’s trading company can have a retail unit where we buy and sell mpg credits. This can go on ad infinitum, on are no less absurd. Why are they absurd? It is the mind set of an obsessive compulsive which thinks the ultimate good is —in this case at least–saving CO2 emissions. This is a mindset whose ultimate goal is to “mandate behavior”, create laws and control the populace. It is prima facie laughable and dangerous and not deserving of serious commentary–except for the fact that people are gtaking it seriously.

Posted by: Mike Rulle | August 7, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Seeing as most engines today are run by engine management computers that keep things pretty optimized, and that a ‘tune up’ with change of spark plugs, etc. is recommended every 100,000 miles on many cars, I’m wondering how many cars are really that out of tune. We haven’t bought a car that needed a ‘tune-up’ any more frequently other than change of fluids since 1994 or so.

Posted by: Darren | August 7, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

David Dennis sez….I’m a little confused. Kevin and one other person has asserted some strange beliefs that one barrel of oil (42 gallons) winds up with either 12 or 19.6 gallons of gas.
If one barrel is 12 gallons, and a barrel was recently selling for $147, then gas would sell at a wholesale price of $12.25.
You would have to assume that in that barrel you have ONLY gas. That’s just simply not the case. There’s diesel which is a lower grade of fuel but because of market manipulation by the oil companies is more expensive. There’s motor oil, kerosene, jet fuel etc.

Posted by: walter66 | August 7, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Brian sez……” At today’s price of roughly $120 per barrel, 10 times or more of this amount could be viably recovered.”
so we’ll get 10 times more oil at $120 per barrel…..where’s the savngs in that? We have $120/barrel of oil today and the price of gas is $3.60 so if we had 10 times the amount of $120 oil the gas price would be what…….$3.60?

Posted by: walter66 | August 7, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Air costs 75 cents at my local gas station. Has anybody figured in the cost of air to this equation? Overall, it’s cheaper to say a little underinflated for a few extra days than wasting quarters on that machine. Will I even save as much energy inflating my tires as it takes to run the air pump?

Posted by: Dave H | August 7, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Verrastro’s numbers still VASTLY overstate potential savings. His worst case scenario, which assumes that every car in America has 4 underinflated tires, an incredibly filthy air cleaner, needs a tuneup and is using the wrong oil, is 18-19% savings. He then correctly says that this cannot be true. However, he then adjusts the potential savings to 10%? SO what he’s suggesting is that OVER HALF the cars in America have all those faults, or that nearly every car has at least some of them.
Looking at the NHTSA tire information, the indication is that 27% have ONE or more underinflated tire, and only 3% have all four, another 3% had 3, and 7% had two, leaving 14% with only one low tire. Calculating that out, the savings would be 0.4% That’s closer to 1/10th of the worst case scenario than 1/2.
Some of the other categories of “savings” are even less likely. How many cars in the US are using the wrong oil? How many have plugged air filters?(even for those who do, I would dispute the 10%, as that number is probably for a carbeurated car, not a fuel injected car with oxygen sensors and a computer that automatically adjusts the fuel/air mixture.
Lets give him the benefit of the doubt, and say the ratio is the same as for the tires, 12.25% of the worst case scenario. That means that, rather than 19% saved, it is likely that those changes would save 2.32%, resluting in less than 1/4th of his estimate of 800 million barrels a day (approximately 180 million). That also assumes that EVERY single auto that has one of the above problems is fixed, and that from that point forward, every single car is constantly maintained at 100%.

Posted by: Southerner | August 7, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Walter_66 Sez…”so we’ll get 10 times more oil at $120 per barrel…..where’s the savngs in that? We have $120/barrel of oil today and the price of gas is $3.60 so if we had 10 times the amount of $120 oil the gas price would be what…….$3.60? ”
I was simply making the point that a dramatically greater amount of oil would be available at the higher price. If the “proof” can only be demonstrated with rediculously optimistic assumptions about tire pressure savings AND equally rediculously pessimistic assumptions about the amount of recoverable oil, than ANY additional oil recovery makes it fall apart (as if it hasn’t already).
The sensitivity to how much more would be recoverable vs what the prevailing price is would definitely not be a straight line. Conceivably it could be 10X with oil prices at $70 per barrel. Doesn’t matter. What we definitely know is that the 200,000 barrels per day figure is completely bogus, and anyone that actually read the report and knowingly used it as “proof” of Obama’s assertion was outright lying.

Posted by: Brian | August 7, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

Brian, I don’t remember much talk about ending the drilling moritorium when oil was $70 a barrel. Something tells me it wasn’t that attractive to the oil companies. Now, at $120/bbl, there’s a whole lot of interest.
if oil was $70/bbl,would we even be talking about lifting the moratorium?

Posted by: walter66 | August 7, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Of course you are hearing a lot more about the issue when oil is at $120 per barrel than when it was $70 per barrel. So the fact that you personally didn’t hear anything about it a year ago doesn’t mean that it only became economically feasible to recover oil in the last year. If that was the case, why was a ban on offshore drilling even needed? Why ban oil companies from drilling if they would only lose money by doing it?
The obvious answer is that there has been recoverable oil off our coasts the entire time. Keep in mind that when the ban was first created in the early 80′s, oil was close to $12 per barrel ….and yet there was active drilling off the coast of California at the time. So not hard to figure out that oil supplies could easily be increased by lifting the ban. In fact, some of those very same drilling platforms off the coast of California are still in place, able to become operational within a year. The bottom line is that the cost of keeping the ban in place is astronomically higher now than when it was first implemented.
This is what makes it so egregious when the Democrats refuse to even allow a vote on the issue, and instead propose inane ideas like surtaxing our domestic oil companies. Now THAT will wean us off of foreign oil!
The Democrats’ dirty little secret is that they WANT oil to cost a lot, but know full well the issue is a total loser with voters. How else to keep pulling in money from the environmental lobby? If it can get people to drive more fuel efficient cars, who cares that it reeks havoc on our economy, increases the cost of nearly every goods and service we have, and continues to send even more money to terrorist supporting regimes? So their solution is to do absolutely nothing, avoid actually voting on lifting the ban if they can get away with it (wouldn’t want to have actually face the voters this fall having to explain an actual vote, would we?), and hope voters don’t recognize the obvious when they see it.

Posted by: Brian | August 8, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

“the NHTSA tire information, the indication is that 27% have ONE or more underinflated tire, and only 3% have all four, another 3% had 3, and 7% had two, leaving 14% with only one low tire. Calculating that out, the savings would be 0.4%”
Awesome comment Southerner!
I found the NHTSA info saying 27% for at least one and 3% for all four. Where do the other #’s come from? I’m eager to give them to a friend who’s been waving the TIME.com Grunwald piece in my face!

Posted by: Ockraz | August 8, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

“It means that if every American was running around with significantly underinflated tires and improperly tuned cars, then, yes, Sen. Obama is right, the savings from inflating the tires and tuning the cars could arguably match or exceed *current output from the OCS.*”
But Obama didn’t say current output, nor has that been the issue discussed on either side. The issue is how much NEW drilling could produce.
But nice job of finding and apples to oranges comparison. Very professional.

Posted by: Seanny53 | August 9, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Using the website FuelEconomy, Verrastro writes, we can estimate that “the maximum (estimated) fuel economy (i.e., mileage) savings drivers could expect as a result of keeping their engines properly tuned (4%), replacing air filters (up to 10%), properly inflating tires (up to 3%) and using the correct motor oil (1-2%) is 18-19%. Since American drivers use roughly 380 million gallons of gasoline (not including diesel) per day, an 18% improvement translates into a savings of 68 million gallons, or 1.62 million barrels of oil per day.”

Umm this assumes that nobody keeps proper inflation, and maintenance of their car. *** EPIC FAIL ***

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Tim wrote:
“Umm this assumes that nobody keeps proper inflation, and maintenance of their car. *** EPIC FAIL ***”
More like “Reading fail” on your part. Read further down in the article above:
“However, since estimates of significant tire underinflation affect only about a quarter of the cars on road — as we noted above with the NHTSA statistics — and it’s highly unlikely that 100% of the cars are in need of tune- ups at any given time, the maximum savings amount is probably closer to 10%, Verrastro says.
‘So the production offset is more likely to approach 800 thousand barrels per day – a tidy sum and a worthwhile target for savings, but not equal to OCS output,’”

Posted by: Aaron | April 19, 2009, 1:11 am 1:11 am

Anyone has an updates with this issue?It’s been talked about by known officials and i hope energy conservation will be fully established.

Posted by: tyre changers | August 8, 2009, 2:15 am 2:15 am

I understand both parties but one thing we want,to save fuel in different ways.There’s a lot of thing we can do and with the proper tire inflation it’s also for safety while on the road.

Posted by: tyre racking | December 15, 2009, 6:58 am 6:58 am

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