In Pennsylvania, McCain Tells a New Version of Heroic P.O.W. Story — Subbing the Pittsburgh Steelers for the Green Bay Packers

there is one problem with telling lies—-the story will never be the same–in the end all will know the truth.

What a lovely time to switch the story. Not very good character. Obama would get killed, absolutely killed, if he pulled a trick like this.

As the story goes, it proves McCain is adept at providing false stories to any enquiry. At skill he honed during his stay in Hanoi. However, we are not the enemy.

This man is starting to show his true colors – this campaign is coming apart and PANDER is the nicest word one can find for the antics, lies and just plain silliness.

Well John, this is why I hate that you’re running for president – I have to hold stuff like this against you, even though I really don’t want to.

Obama *did* the same thing and was given a free pass by the liberal media. he said his grandfather had liberated Daschau(which was nonsense). If he *did* go anywhere near a concentration camp, which I doubt,(prove it, Barack), it would have to have been somewhere like Belsen in the western sector. Obama probably made the whole thing up; McCain simply forgot a point of detail in something he told his captors 30+ years ago. Big difference

Too bad Art Rooney…
icon in this part of the state…
BACKED OBAMA!!
Obama doesn’t need to lie…
STEELER fans hold the STEEL CURTAIN!
McFlip Flop won’t be lauded for lying about the steelers!
boooo!

This couldn’t possibly me a mistake. I have heard McCain on more than two occassions talk about this story. How could he possibly forget in Pennsylvania of all places and use the Steelers? McCain gets a pass from the press, while Obama gets buried. Imagine if Obama had dropped such a blatant lie? I bet Obama will not use this against him. Wow. This is sniper fire all over again. In fact, this is worse.

I hope the American people are not hoodwinked into thinking that senator John McCain deserves to be president because he was a POW………He suffered what many others suffered….and some never returned to tell their story…
So, I hope this just stays in its proper prospective….

american hero ?

I think I just read the start of the swiftboating of Mccain.

Why didn’t George W. Bush get this treatment when he lied about the “Trifecta” or he lied about his military service or he lied about seeing the first plane hit the World Trade Center? *Those* were lies worthy of some serious scrutiny, not mistakes.
IMHO, this mistake of McCain’s is just that. The story took place forty years ago. Give the guy a break. Bush should be impeached and thrown in jail, but let’s cut McCain some slack.

It’s sort of silly to decide McCain’s is electable because her was shot down. What does that say for all the pilots who were shot at and evaded getting shot down? Remember, too, that was the 5th plane McCain lost and, despite graduating near the bottom of his class, this son and grandson of Admirals managed to get the plum assignment of flight school. Maybe he just wasn’t cut out for it.

Slow day when you have to nit pick like this….

Of course, John McCain is “reluctant” to bring up his experience as a POW, which is true if “reluctant” is defined as “every conceivable opportunity”.
At least before when John McCain sought to exploit his POW status while simultaneously refusing to explain why it qualifies him to be president, he wasn’t out and out lying about it.
Keep that “Straight-Talk” coming.

Sue ellen,
Your right. The Packers or the Steelers are not it. But this news here clearly reminds me also that McCain is certainly not it either to lead this country out of it’s current misery.

So what?
The Blacks are fighting for what they want, the women are fighting for what they want, the gays are fighting for what they want and the rest of us get the shaft, and McCain wins by default. Some election.

Let’s clarify a few things for folks like Marty who seem to be confused.
Barack Obama’s statements about Selma and his brth, and also getting the specific concentration camp his great uncle liberated wrong are not lies by Obama but the relating of family lore that he was either not present for, or not even born yet to experience.
McCain’s blatant lie about the steelers here is supposedly of a vivid memory burned into his brain by traumatic circumstances.
He did not misremember this. He lied. And it demonstrates a serious character flaw. If he will lie and pander about something this personal, what else will he lie about?

So what?
The Blacks are fighting for what they want, the women are fighting for what they want, the gays are fighting for what they want and the rest of us loose, and McCain wins by default. Some election.

Reminds me a little about a story my father tells about growing up as a small boy in Indiana… it seems there used to be this rooster in the barnyard that – wait – *Texas*, I mean. My father grew up in Texas. Honest mistake.

I have to admit, it makes one wonder why this story isn’t being treated like Hillary’s SNIPER fire in Bosnia story in the media?
The media sure is giving this guy a free ride. And Hillary’s folks thought Obama got it easy????

He was there doing it folks! He may have made a mistake – but it was him there doing it! Obama with the drugs, no military background, hasn’t been to Iraq yet, hasn’t spoken with the Chiefs of Staff yet – just a kid with great oratorical capability!

Sammy1,
What’s the deal with the McSame crap? I don’t support McCain but he’s definitely no George Bush. He is starting to look more progressive on many topics that George W. Obama. If you want to be cute with the McSame crap then Wobama it’ll be.
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Wobama, the chief architect of bittergate!
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McCain making up stories?
Somehow it doesn’t surprise me.
Maybe it’s “mental”…

Wobama, the chief architect of bittergate……………………………………….The one politician who dares to tell the truth.
How did he discover people were so bitter, I wonder. Maybe he reads the ABC Blogs

Obama hasn’t been to Iraq yet, just a kid with great oratorical capability!
Posted by: ALTEC 7 |
*******************************************Why do you feel the need to lie about the 47 year old ‘kid’? He has been to Iraq. Look it up, don’t rely on what McCain tells you, he makes things up all the time.

Whether he was there or not — the true fact is that he is old. Talk about drugs or whatever smack talk you want to do about Obama. But, seriously, McCain is getting so old he can’t even remember his own history. This is not a small part of his past — it’s a big thing he forgot. This is bad, bad, bad.

McPain, oops meant McCain, honest McStake, has soiled the grass of Lambo Field. He should beg forgiveness and be sentenced to wear a triangle of cheese of his head for a year.

We need to move beyond this … who is this man who would be president.
Posted by: beaupritchard
***************************************** I hear you, I have been trying to figure out who Mr. McSybil is too.

we are talking about a senile old man–who did not have much to start with..

wish the repubs had picked romney—–mclame is just too easy—he does a good job on himself

I can’t believe that his making a mistake about a ball team is getting this kind of response. Obama said that there was 54 States and didn’t get skewered this badly!
CHEERS :-)

Could it be that he named names for both of the teams.
Never has anybody who gave so much spit on as much as McCain.
To this day he can’t lift his arms over his head to comb his hair.
McCain has his arms repeatedly snapped by being hung from a celing and tied behind his back.
Enough already. Your Obama is going to be president and King.
Enough already.

Convenient that he accidentally named the Steelers while campaigning in Pennsylvania. That doesn’t wreak of pandering at all. And how many times has he told that story, and not gotten it wrong? That is not a casual anecdote, it’s a serious moment of his history that is not easily forgotten. So if it is an honest mistake, do we just chalk this up to old age?

Altec7,
Actually Obama talked about 57 states. Using Jim’s logic below Obama made a mistake indicating he’s too old to run for office. I say that just the opposite is the case – Obama is a teleprompter reading word processor – he just has better cadence when he speaks because he’s listened to many many firebrand pastors and is able to mimic them. He’s a replicator.
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Obama for word-processor in chief!!
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McCain never talks about how his 19 year old son just came back from Iraq.
Obama says McCain doesn’t care about soldiers serving in Iraq when his own son just came back from Iraq.
McCain’s other son is in the navy academy.
Duncan Hunter talked about his son’s service in iraq all the time.
Jim Webb wore his sons boots all the time on the trail.
Senator Johnson had commercials made with his son serving.
McCain has shown great courage and honor talking about his son’s service in iraq when obama says mccian doesn’t care about the troops in iraq.
Never has anyone given more and been smeared more as McCain.
Never has anyone given less and been anointed King as Obama.
The politics in this country suck.

57 states—oh that is correct add china ,mexico
korea,canada
and lets see nam–or maybe columbia–forgot thought we were discussing mcsame

I dunno … first it’s the Packers and then it’s the Steelers … I’m confused.
Is this a Flip-Flop or did McCCain just throw the Packers UNDER THE BUS?
LOL!!!!

CORRECTION
so their neighbors homes get disclosed on,
YIKES! I was trying to type: SAW their neighbors homes get FORECLOSED on.

truth matters
pa has been devistated by nafta and china trade agreements—i invite all to come to the coal region—-just mabe coal will make a comeback and help some—unless mcshame has made a deal with columbia–or sone other country.

This is why they make pilots retire at age 60. Do we really want a 72 year old at the controls of this country? Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | J
********************************************** Forgive me but you dont’ really sound like an Obama supporter.
Anyway John McCain’s age doesn’t really have anything to do with it. I have relatives in their 90′s who are pretty dang sharp.
The fact that McCain Makes up stories all the time does have something to do with it though. He cannot be trusted in the White House.

who has the nerve to say that Obama gets a free pass? OMG, Obama is ALWAYS flubbing up, and the media just ignores it! Just a small list: 57 states, his uncle helped liberate Germany, Iraq vs Afghanistan interpreters, not to mention his many, many lies! So McCain thought of the wrong team, well, big deal, he was being tortured at the time, putting his life on the line for the sake of freedom, to allow people like Obama supporters to criticize him. Show some gratitude to our veterans.

doublestandard
GREAT REPLY!

truth matters
pa has been devistated by nafta and china trade agreements—i invite all to come to the coal region—-just mabe coal will make a comeback and help some—unless mcshame has made a deal with columbia–or sone other country.
Posted by: rodney
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A lot of our cities have been devastated and it is a crying shame, because you know these people gave their lives to corporations, that sold them out as soon as they discovered they could get enormous tax breaks for using cheap labor overseas.

Say goodbye to Pennsylvania, Senator McCain.

I think I just read the start of the swiftboating of Mccain. Posted by: Jack Mayne | Jul 10, 2008 7:16:44 PM
McLame Swift Boat’s himself.
Looks like the wheels on the “Flip-Flop Express” are starting to fall off.

doublestandard: “So McCain thought of the wrong team, well, big deal, he was being tortured at the time”
You mean KDKA-TV was waterboarding him? Isn’t that illegal?
It’s a FlipFlop!
The Packers are UNDER THE BUS!!!

Lighten up Beechie, we are just havin a wee bit o fun with McSybil.

doublestandard
GREAT REPLY! Patriotism should matter, especially since we are at War now. What a horrible thing for our fighting troops to read – a proven patriot being denigrated here! I am a proud foreign service Vet who served a hardship tour and McCain is a PATRIOT!

Alzheimer’s has caught up with McCain. He is not fit to be president.

It all comes down to whether or not you think we should continue the bush policies. If you think the war should continue indefinitely, while we spend $10,000,000,000 a month, and you think that bush has done well with the economy then mc-more-war is your man. If you think that it’s time we start to get out of iraq and do some positive things for the average American instead of just the top 1% then vote for Obama.

He not only switched teams, he went from the O-Line to D.
“Pressed for more useful information, I gave the names of the Green Bay Packers offensive line, and said they were members of my squadron.”
“I named the starting lineup, defensive line of the Pittsburgh Steelers as my squadron mates.”

jeanne,
If so many troops supposedly back McCain over Obama, why did Obama get far more donations, and far more total campaign donation money from active military?
Anti-war Republican Ron Paul was 2nd behind Obama in military donations. The troops are stretched to the limit right now, and can’t afford to remain in Iraq at current levels, with extended tours, going back for tour after tour, etc.
Stop getting your information from chain emails.

McCain was never tortured.
He got star treatment because
his father was an admiral in
the Navy. He was treated like
a celebrity and used in their
efforts to whip up worldwide
anti-war protests.

mccain will be grand puba at the nursing home

Can someone tell me if it is unusual for a pilot to lose 5 airplanes? Was mccain allowed to lose 5 planes because his father was an admiral? What percentage of other pilots have lost 5 planes? How many pilots that finish in the bottom 1% of their class are even allowed to fly? Makes you wonder…

“McCain in his captivity named linemen from both the steelers and packers.”
Really?
So McCain has recounted this story OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN throughout the years and forgot all this time to mention that he named Steelers players?
From another news source:
“USA TODAY’s Kathy Kiely says it’s highly unlikely the Steelers would have been on McCain’s radar screen back then. ‘The team’s record in 1967, the year McCain was shot down, was 4-9-1. The year after it was 2-11-1. Those Super Bowls were a long way off,’ says Kathy, whose father, Ed, was the Steelers’ longtime public relations director.”

altec 7,
If it’s not true why does McCain refuse to release his POW records? What’s he hiding?

altec
there were a few of us around at that time—-all he needed was hanoi jane

truth matters
it amounts to being sold out to big business and not only oil.

Well, I suppose now the rest of the country is beginning to see why Republicans threw McSame under the bus in 2000 – in favor of Bush.
If the Republicans thought Bush was better than McCain, what are we supposed to think about McCain now?

it amounts to being sold out to big business and not only oil.
Posted by: rodney |
yes, and they have been basically running things for so long now, it is going to be a long,long ride with millions of us rowing to ever get it turned around.

altec
maybe we could put obama in military like bushy was—or appoint a relative admiral —-if that helps

truth matters
seems like impossible task—–i have no doubt that the old school dinosaurs will give us more of the same

Truth Matters but you think Obama with no experience and his shady associates and his lying is.
Posted by: Seth
Yes, I think Obama is very capable of leading and governing this country. I think he will be a great president for ALL Americans.

anon
BINGO

Isn’t it sorta silly for Obama to claim that he is presidential material from being a community organizor and could not even move ole people in his district to a cool place in the summer of 1995. Many, many people died.
Isn’t it sorta silly for Obama to receive IL state senate bills that other senators did all the work on but Emil Jones gave them to Obama to boost his resume??? All the real work was completed by other people. Isn’t it sorta silly for Obama’s number l supporter and fund raiser to be now sitting in jail. Isn’t it sorta silly for his political coming-out party be sponsored by Bill Ayers, a known terrorist.
For every misspeak of McCain’, there is 10 by Obama. Remember 57 states. Guess that is how he received the selection for the Democratic nominee.

Truth Matters: oops … my bad. Twice in a row.
NUTSgate was yesterday – today it’s WHINER-GATE. LOL!

altec
just no brains using family power to put on a show–make him pay for the planes he wrecked-acting like ass. or just incompetent pilot

I could see Obama making that mistake about his Uncle and Auschwitz. He was a distant relative and Obama simply dug up a story for the campaign trail, so it’s no wonder he was mistaken about the concentration camp.
But how does McCain screw this one up? I mean tortured for 5 and 1/2 years, you’d think the story would be burned into his mind detail for detail. To grossly forget something so important to his story is perplexing. It’s one of the most memorable pieces, so much that it was a hallmark moment of his movie.
Strikes me as very odd that McCain would let that slip.

Jeanne, I am well over 40. Mature enough to know that it really doesn’t help your case when you post chain emails on here, that are totally bogus. In this day and age, everything can be verified or debunked withing seconds.
So when you post something bogus in an attempt to spread false rumors, people get the idea that you may not know that much about the person you are supporting either.
Many people under 40 know full well what it means to love their country.
But it can’t be a blind passion, we have a lot of work to do here and we would get a lot further if we would work together.

Would everyone please stop WHINING about Steeler-gate?
Or is it Packer-gate?
I’m getting confused …

every time i mention mccain and hanoi jane it gets deleted??????????????????????

Truth Matters: oops … my bad. Twice in a row.
NUTSgate was yesterday – today it’s WHINER-GATE. LOL!
Posted by: Snarxon
**********************************************I don’t get it, you wouldn’t be calling me a nut and a whiner, would you?

Good night, Rodney

You have to wonder if McCain can separate fact from fiction. Lord help us all if he’s somehow elected president.

every time i mention mccain and hanoi jane it gets deleted??????????????????????
Posted by: rodney
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Your post is still there Rodney, scroll down to 10:03. That is the time it was posted. It can be tricky finding your posts sometimes though.

Can we just respect what this guy went thru for our own country ? Let’s praise him for doing what he did. How many of you would’ve done it ?
Just a Few…The Proud…THE MARINES !
Pittsburgh Steelers or the Green Bay Packers IT’S aLL AMERICA afer all.

This is the kind of small mixup or embellishment that all politicians make. The saturation 24 hour media cycle we have now has to learn to back off on these small bs stories. Stories like this will drive people away from ever offering his or herself as a candidate. We will end up with candidates afraid to say anything or to have any record. We will end up with nothing but empty suit leaders.

“We will end up with nothing but empty suit leaders.”
Or empty suit comments.

YES I DO. THAT’S FOR SURE

It was ok to give misinformation in Viet Nam. It’s not ok in Pittsburgh.

The story changes from city to city. In clevland it will be the offensive line of the browns, In Philadelphia it will be the eagles. I hope he doesn’t go an expansion city, he will not be able to tell this lie.

I don’t think anyone is (or should) belittle what the POW’s went thru Including McCain. We honor all our men and women for their service to our country. The problem is not his service it is his memory. He remembered it all the years. This is something that should be indelable ins his memory. So why now is he getting it mixed up? It seems he is getting things, some of them things he should know, mixed up. The problem is his age. Memory gets a little fussy around the edges when you get old. Some sooner than others. His is happening now. Also, do you really want a president who makes jokes about killing people? That really worries me.

My favorite football team is the Cowboys. Always has been — always will be. Which makes me question how McCain could possibly have mistaken the team. No one who is a big enough fan to know the names of the starting offensive line would mistake the team. Seriously is this a “senior moment?” Either that or as horrible as this seems you have to question if the original story McCain told is really true. He is a hero — but did he embellish the story.

McCain is a laughinginstock in this country. He says he is a war hero when he is a war zero. He killed 134 of his comrades on a carrier because he is a moron. McCain is a traitor to this country.

To me it all come back to what the voting public will do when they listen to the propaganda tapes McCain made for the North Vietnamese.
Will they still vote for someone who betrayed his comrades and country?
I hope not.

Isabella-789: I am sorry, must have missed something. Where in this article did it disrespect the American Solder? Please point that out. I have read most of the post. And I really don’t disrespect for our men and women in arms. What I see are people concerned about McCain not being able to remember correctly a “Life Event”. I am sure he has retold this story so many times he should be able to tell it in his sleep.

Yeah lets elect a president with no experience.
Yeah lets elect a guy who nodded in Rev Wright’s church for 20 years as hamas was praised and america was bashed.
After Wright said america’s chickens came home to roost on 9/11 Obama still praised Wright.
Obama apoligized to Wright even after he made those 9/11 comments.

Michael: “You have no idea the red line you have crossed.”
Do the words “SWIFT BOAT” mean anything to you? They mean a lot to veterans and the families of veterans.
Back at ya:
You have no idea the red line you have crossed.

Michael: All I can say is you need to read Mike H’s post. I am not saying that McCain never did anything good. If this was several years ago I would be voting for him.But he is not the same person he was even 4 years ago. I just want the best person for the job. But and old man who can not remember important things, who makes sick jokes about killing, and is not for womens rights; i cannot vote for.

Micheal,
I don’t get it – are you denying that McCain made propaganda tapes for the North Vietnamese while he was a prisoner?
There’s documented evidence that McCain collaborated with the North Vietnamese.
If you have proof otherwise, you should present it.
Please examine the evidence before you vote.

Face it people, even REPUBLICANS don’t like McCain:
An “embarrassment to the party.” – Arizona GOP State Senator Susan Johnson
“The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He is erratic. – Senator Thad Cochran, R-MS
“I decided I didn’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.” – Senator Pete Domenici, R-NM
“If either [John McCain or Mike Huckabee] gets the nomination, it’s going to destroy the Republican Party, it’s going to change it forever, be the end of it.” – Conservative talk show host and author Rush Limbaugh
“There’s nothing redeeming about John McCain…he’s a hypocrite.” – Former House GOP Whip Tom DeLay
“He is a vicious person. They so disliked him that they wouldn’t support him. – Former Representative Charles LeBoutillier, R-NY
“His temper would place this country at risk in international affairs, and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind, that should disqualify him.” – Former Senator Bob Smith, R-NH
“I don’t like him at all.” Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-CO
“It just seems like everything we did, John was someplace else…In my mind, he is not a conservative.”- Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-IL
“What happens if he gets angry in crisis in the presidency? It’s the president’s job to negotiate and stay calm. I just don’t see that he has that quality.” – Former Arizona GOP Chairman John Hinz
“Hardheaded is one way to say it. Arrogant is another way to say it. Hubristic is another way to say it. Too proud for his own good is another way to say it. It’s a quality about him that disturbs me.” Larry Wilkerson, former chief aide to Colin Powell
“He is the anti-conservative. He instinctively sides against conservatives and relishes poking them in the eye.” – Conservative talk show host David Limbaugh
“John McCain is Bob Dole minus the charm, conservatism, and youth. Unlike McCain, Dole didn’t lie all the time while claiming to engage in ‘straight talk.’” – Ann Coulter

Mike, do you have a link to where those quotes are found? If accurate and in proper context, they are important.

I have to go to bed, Mike, but I understand if you’re having problems refuting the evidence that McCain was a collaborator.
Please take a good look at the man before you vote. We don’t need a traitor in the office of the President.

To the bloggers who claim that Senator McCain is either senile or lies about his POW days, would you please tell me why Senator Obama spoke for over 30 minutes last night to a group of people but actually forgot why he was there in the first place. He was there to ask for his supporters to help pay off Clinton’s debt. He walked off stage forgetting—oh well, guess he was senile too. Poor Obama is not fit to be President because he is senile and forgetful. LOL Remember 57 states and “fallen heroes in the audience”. GZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Iamforthiscountry: I wish so bad I had kept it but I took it for granted that it was going to be big news in the media but lo and behold absolutely nothing! I just don’t understand it! But for sure I will for now on pass on what ever I read!

Ebony: Thank you. I will see if I can find it when I have time. It is here somewhere. Good night.

Go easy on him. After all
he’s a politician.
He was in Pittsburgh, PA
so naturally it’s the home
team the Pittsburgh Steelers.
When he campaigns in Wisconsin
he’ll say it’s the Green Bay
Packers.

If you are curious for the source, please just copy/paste any of the individual quotes & surround them with quotation marks, then Google them – they are easily available, from 100′s of sources, and and are actually quite clear in their context.
Republican quotes about McCain:
An “embarrassment to the party.” – Arizona GOP State Senator Susan Johnson
“The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He is erratic. – Senator Thad Cochran, R-MS
“I decided I didn’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.” – Senator Pete Domenici, R-NM
“If either [John McCain or Mike Huckabee] gets the nomination, it’s going to destroy the Republican Party, it’s going to change it forever, be the end of it.” – Conservative talk show host and author Rush Limbaugh
“There’s nothing redeeming about John McCain…he’s a hypocrite.” – Former House GOP Whip Tom DeLay
“He is a vicious person. They so disliked him that they wouldn’t support him. – Former Representative Charles LeBoutillier, R-NY
“His temper would place this country at risk in international affairs, and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind, that should disqualify him.” – Former Senator Bob Smith, R-NH
“I don’t like him at all.” Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-CO
“It just seems like everything we did, John was someplace else…In my mind, he is not a conservative.”- Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-IL
“What happens if he gets angry in crisis in the presidency? It’s the president’s job to negotiate and stay calm. I just don’t see that he has that quality.” – Former Arizona GOP Chairman John Hinz
“Hardheaded is one way to say it. Arrogant is another way to say it. Hubristic is another way to say it. Too proud for his own good is another way to say it. It’s a quality about him that disturbs me.” Larry Wilkerson, former chief aide to Colin Powell
“He is the anti-conservative. He instinctively sides against conservatives and relishes poking them in the eye.” – Conservative talk show host David Limbaugh
“John McCain is Bob Dole minus the charm, conservatism, and youth. Unlike McCain, Dole didn’t lie all the time while claiming to engage in ‘straight talk.’” – Ann Coulter

This has been a very bad week for Senator Mccain. First he calls medicare a disgrace. Iraq calls for a time-table for U.S withdrawal. On that,he first said it was a lie, then Maliki is using it politically, then the story is true but we must still remain. Then Phil Gramm calls me a whiner and this is the same guy that formulated his so called economy whiners proposals.He then said 300 economists supported his proposals and then we find it was all a lie. He cant remember his vote on birth control and dodges the viagra question. Next he misses the medicare bill and FISA bill because he does not want to be attaked by Americans. He dodged a question on veterans issue and finally he lies about the Pittsburg steelers in PA in the name of pandering. Funny enough the weekend is still far enough. I guess if it was Barack Obama that made just one of these errors, we would still be talking about it.

atrocious. either he’s lost it, or the story wasn’t true in the first place.

Lets remember that the Republicans were “whining” about Bill Clinton’s little Monica Lewinsky thing. They whined, and whined, and bawled like babies who couldn’t get their way. But they did an excellent job in educating our children on the finer points of sex education through the media. They rant and rave and whine when they don’t get their way with a lot of things. Unfortunately, the Democrats are like airhead parents who give in all the time. I think Obama is becoming a Neocon. But I’d still prefer Obama to McCain anyday. McCain is practically not all there…if you know what I mean.

obviously the clear sign of dementia while pandering, he will say anything he thinks will help him get elected.
OBAMA’08!

Can Alzheimer’s start at 71 or did he just loose his bearings again? That’s kind of a big thing to forget, either you have a favorite team or not?

There was a program on NPR this week entitled “When Is Old Too Old?” It was a discussion on the age factor and Senator McCain.
A guest commenter was Dr. Leo Cooning, chief of the geriatrics section at Yale University School of Medicine. His argument was that cognitive fitness it more important than age. A caller to the program identified himself as Dharma, president and medical director of the Alzheimer Research and Prevention Foundation in Tuscon, Arizona. He said he’s seen symptoms from Sen. McCain that could indicate mild cognitive impairment, which could be a preliminary form of Alzheimer.
While the doctors debated on the statistics for dementia at elderly age ranges, Dr. Cooning said that a cognitive assessment should be part of the annual physical for everyone over the age of 65.
Many believe that Ronald Regan was displaying signs of dementia during his second term. Five years after he left office, his Alzheimer’s diagnosis was announced.
Shouldn’t Senator McCain be asked to take a cognitive assessment to put these questions to rest?

Trying to keep track of what McCain says is enough to make your head spin.
I’m not sure if he’s lying, can’t remember what he previously, or is changing his position.

Sandra said: “As a Canadian, I hate to jump in here, but has it occurred to you that when Obama said ’57 states’ he meant the multiple primary contests run in places other than the 50 contiguous states, i.e, Guam, Puerto Rico, and so on? He said they had been to 57 states so far…a ‘state’ doesn’t have to be taken so literally.”
NICE TRY! The Obamabots have run this silly defence into the ground. Obama clearly alluded to THREE ADDITIONAL STATES he didn’t visit, bringing the total to 60, not 57. So your parroted defence still doesn’t hold any water.
Epic failure on your part.

I am getting tired of McCain shoving his military background down our throats.
We need somebody who can think on his feet and make clear logical decisions. The President shouldn’t be taking orders from somebody else. McCain always has somebody else whispering over his shoulder telling him what to think and say. This demented old fool is a danger to the country.

“I am getting tired of McCain shoving his military background down our throats.”
I’m tired of hearing about Mr. Community Organizer, but he hasn’t shut up about that yet.
Really? Obama claimed 10,000 people got killed, when 12 did. Obama claimed his uncle liberated a concentration camp he never did. Obama claimed he was born as a result of a civil rights even that happened after he was born. He’s made mistakes worse than this and is doing just fine.

In deference to his age, we should all just agree to let Sen. McCain make one or two mistakes, misstatements, etc., per day. Sen. Obama, however, is young, intelligent, agile and eloquent, so we won’t allow any missteps from him.

Next week it’ll be the Packers and the Steelers, while under SNIPER fire!!! Give me a break, if you think a man who has used the same story over and over for decades and even writes about it in a book, can simply ‘mis-speak’ while searching for votes in the midst of enemy territory, isn’t pandering for votes, you are daft. This man is giving core Republicans reason to abandon ship almost on a daily basis.

Give me a break. This is political pandering to the nth degree. If you think a man who has repeated the same story for decades, and even writes about it in a book, all of a sudden ‘mis-spoke’, while in the midst of enemy territory, isn’t pandering, you are daft. Next week it may be both Packers and the Steelers, while under SNIPER fire. This man is giving core Republicans reason to abandon ship, almost on a daily basis.

I prefer a president who doesn’t have daily “senior moments” thank you very much….

It’s interesting that all these (obvious) John Kerry backers are now asking John McCain to stop shoving his military history down our throats!?!?! Surely, you can’t be serious. I have just one question for you guys, What did you do when Kerry stepped up to the podium at the 2004 Democratic Convention and said, ‘Reporting for Duty’??

John McCain’s entire campaign is:
“I was a Vietnam POW. So vote for me. I earned it.”
This is a deliberate play for sympathy from the liberal boomer press corpse, talking heads in the media who are scared to death to call McCain the lying, pandering, political hack that he truly is because they don’t want to suffer a backlash like the one Wesly Clark received.
And McCain is shamlessly exploiting his POW status to shield himsaelf from crioticism. And then he LIES about how he is shamelessly exploiting his POW status.
The media will not touch McCain because thei either feel guilty for not serving in the Military, or are afraid to criticize McCain.
It’s sad. Even Jake’s story ended with a blurb praising McCain for his “beyond admirable” service in Vietnam.
McCain wants to be President. He should be scrutinized. And Obama is NOT getting away with things. He gets hit for the smallest lttle niggling issues that the press glosses over or makes excuses for McCain over.

I feel bad for all you Americans. Listening to Libearls bash Conservatives and vice versa, and republicans bash democrats and vice versa. You all act like it’s 1 side against the other which is actually the way those in power want it.
You also all act like there is a difference between McCain and Obama but there isn’t, well except for skin color. They are both elitists, they both don’t give a d**n about you or the American public. They won’t change anything in your country.
Everything is going down the tube in what was once a great nation and all you Americans are allowing your politicians to do it. No wonder Chomsky said the American public is irrelevant because it is. You all vote and voice your concerns but none of them are ever addressed. Healthcare has been issue since I was born 30 years ago but not once have I seen or heard anything done about. Why? because big business didn’t want anything done about it. Same goes for education. Yet all you hear about is Iraq or the economy or for some unknown reason gay marriage and/or abortion (what they have to do with anything I don’t know — with or without either of those two your country is still in shambles).
Your leaders focus on issues that aren’t important and ignore the ones that the majority of the population do find important. This happens year after year and none of you zombies do anything about it. I truly feel for all of you as I feel for everybody in this world. Your government along with the rest of our world leaders (I’m Canadian btw) are going to ruin all of our lives and the worst part is we are going to allow or even worse we are going to ask for it.
Heed my warnings. The worst is yet to come.
Your friend from north of the border,
a concerned Canadian.

Oh lol…he got the two teams mixed up over the DECADES. I would think given McCains age and how long ago the war was that it would be expected. No big deal..

Ahh, alas it seems that poor Panama Johnny is already showing signs of senility and demetia :-( Senior moment after senior moment is all that seems to come from him anymore. Now does anyone really want him making any decisions regarding war?

So McCain slipped, and said the wrong name of a sports team. Big, fat, hairy deal. Wow, guys, if you have a purposeful life full of experiences, and a record of serving your country in both war and peace (McCain), then once in awhile you’ll remember something wrong. I’m fifty, and I do this all the time. My kids say all their friends’ parents do it too. I’m talking about sometimes barely knowing my own name. That’s because I have a lot on my plate, not because I’m lying or senile. Those who accuse McCain of lying or senility should get a life, then they will know what I mean.

He is in WI today, hopefully someone reminds him that he is now in PACKER territory and calls him on his lie!

jake don’t be a hypocrite. when obama misspoke about his uncle/grandfather whoever it was, that helped free a concentration camp, but he stated the wrong camp, you said that this is something distasteful to point out and that we all should let it go.
now that mccain has misspoke about the single most terrifying moment of his life, you think this might MEAN something.
give it up.

John didn’t know this at the time, but was tortured for it. Basically, his father became the commander for the entire Pacific fleet. The Vietnamese wanted to use John to discredit the United States. They ask John to do certain things for them. He refused. The American POWs had nicknamed their captors. The guard gave him a day to think about it. John knew that if he were to say no that he would be beaten. John said, no and was beaten 3 months later. For a period of 4 days, every hour they beat him and were careful not to leave marks. John tried, halfheartedly, to commit suicide. John then signed the following Vietnamese statement: “I am a blackcriminal, and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate. I almost died and the Vietnamese people saved my life. The doctors gave me an operation that I did not deserve.” John refused to sign anything else they told him to sign. He made a tape of his confession just like many other American POWs.

Amazing how the issues that really matter are rarely the topics of discussion…
McCain has a record of voting for the policies that has brought the country into its current state, 95% of the time…
This record includes putting healthcare into the hands of individuals rather than their employees, the privatization of Social Security, expanding NAFTA, providing tax credits to the oil industry while making tax cuts to the wealthy permanent, continued military aggressions overseas and when it comes to our economy and infrastructure McCain admitted he doesn’t have the expertise to provide a economic or social plan…
Beside McCain’s voting record his background is freighting similar to our current president, one father being the CIA Director then V.P. the other having a grandfather then father holding military rakes of Navy Admirals, the only difference is one admittedly liked the action of going into combat bombing missions and the other took advantage of their father’s positions to avoid combat…both being at the bottom 5% of their Ivy League Graduating Classes…
The information on both candidates, intent is out there, you just have to look…
Bottom line is if you make over $250K you should vote McCain, your financial interest is his agenda…
If you are of the working class you have to vote for Obama, and when you keep the issues as the topics it’s hard to dispute this analogy…

JOHN MCCAIN REPEATEDLY SAYS THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE.
Whether by mistake or by design, this man repeatedly utters untruthful statements.
When you combine his countless flip flops and “mistakes” I have no idea how any voter can think this man is qualified to be President.

Ouch. What a shameless pander. I’m a student for McCain and this one stinks. I liked Kevin’s post about gaffe of the century. Little did he know that very shortly thereafter Jesse Jackson would reference the removal of another politicians testicles.
In any case McCain’s lying, but its not a big lie, it’s just the kind of lying all candidates do all the time. See the SNL sketch on John Kerry and pandering for a hilarious take on politicians saying different things to different crowds.

“NBD. Everyone makes mistakes. This is not even a news item.”
This is no mistake. McCain specifically says he named every lineman. How can he do that yet forget which team he was speaking of. And why is it conveniently the favorite team of the town you’re giving a speech in. This is almost as bad as Bosnia.

Enough of the BS! All candidates pander to some degree; all candidates tell little white lies. In McCain’s case, I have to read blogs to see his “inconsistencies” pointed out, while every misspeak that Obama, or anyone around him makes, lands front and center on my Comcast homepage, courtesy of the AP, and the nightly headlines of the major news outlets.
I don’t worry so much about McCain being too old, but I do worry about his mental stability. And, I am sick and tired of hearing that he is more qualified because of his military and government service. Now, the right-wing plays up military service as if it is the most important qualification in the world. Odd that McCain’s service didn’t mean “squat” to the GOP in 2000.
For me, it boils down to the fact that McCain is a hypocrite. He speaks of family values, but is an adulterer. He rails against drug users, though his wife was arrested for stealing drugs. He believes private providers are the answer to the health care crisis, while he has, and will continue to have for his lifetime, by virtue of his Senate service, the best health care plan that our money can buy. He proclaims that he wants to move this country forward, yet his campaign relies on the stale, kick the working man policies of people like Phil Graham. He tells us that our veterans should be honored and respected, but he spoke against the newly passed bill which increased benefits for veterans; did not show up to vote for it, yet was singled out by Bush as deserving credit for its passage.
In the great scheme of things, I suppose McCain’s changing his football story to fit an audience might not be seen as grievous by some. However, when one considers the preponderance of McCain’s lies and flip-flops, and his inability to live by the moral code he expects others to follow, this Packers/Steelers story does matter. It is but one more indictment of a man who is incapable of keeping his stories “straight.”

Can you imagine the uproar if Obama had made a mistake like that? And look at the uproar or the Hillary Bosnia story. But the press doesn’t even hardly notice, let alone make a big deal of this.
Either he was lying, or has some memory problems. Often with his gaffs, I think it is memory. In this case, he was probably lying.

John McCain has not only exposed himself as a political panderer (substituting the 1967 defensive line of the Pittsburgh Steelers for the offensive line of the Green Bay Packers) when maiking a speech this last week in Pittsburgh.
He’s also exposed himself as an ignorant panderer. Bill Austin was the coach of the Steelers in 1967. They had a record of 4-9-1. Austin was fired the next year and the Steelers went on to glory.
Maybe McCain just “misremembered.” More probably, he has pre-onset Alzheimer’s or he just lied for political reasons.
For the record, the defensive line of the 1967 Pitttsburgh Steelers was Chuck Hinton, Ken Kortas, Ben McGee and Lloyd Voss.
Remember any of those names? I’m from Pittsburgh and I’m a Steeler fan and I don’t.
Face it, John McCain will lie about things big and small.

I agree with what someone said about preferring to be called bitter over being called a whiner. I think being considered bitter speaks a lot more of the state of this country and the world than it says about us as individuals and, if you’re not bitter by now about it, then you probably live in Candyland. Take that literally or figuratively.
At the very least, calling someone bitter, in my mind, implies being dissatisfied and disillusioned about something relatively substantial and legitimate. Calling someone a whiner just means they don’t have any real problems and are unreasonably hard to please. I’ll take bitter, thanks.

A pretty testimonial for McCain, I think the names of the players are pretty insignificant though.
Petty of anyone to denigrate that no matter what the context.
If Obama were in the same situation which we all know he wouldnt be caught dead in, he could use the Chicago 7 or maybe the Ayatollahs.