McCain Accuses Obama of Pandering on Iraq

How about the truth that we shouldn’t invade sovereign nations that pose little threat to us, especially when the oversees adventure is funded by China with us paying for the interest for decades to come.

When are the Anti War protestors going to protest Obama for wanting to invade Pakistan and continue the occupation of Afghanistan. It was the Democrats and Obama’s main theme to bring all troops home with a timeline.

What is victory McCain? Rebuild them into a country like Japan or Germany? Who is going to pay for this? We shouldn’t be there. The founders warned us about such things.

Doesn’t McCain have anything to say? All he does is whine and complain about Obama, the media, etc. He isn’t looking or sounding very presidential (and not just because he was photographed in front a sausage house and a cheese case over the last couple of days).

Give me the million dollar defintion please!!!!!!! Someone please!!!!
Win the war in Iraq is defined as …..

John McCain never listened to his mom when she said, ” if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing.”
He appears to have nothing nice to say about himself, thus the Obama bashing.
This guy wants to lead the free world?
A fourth grader has less spite within him.

BEN STRAUB…
ok, you may have a point. just like eveyone else who says that every 10 seconds does. WE GET IT. MOST AMERICANS REALIZE IT WASNT A GOOD DECISION TO GO THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE… jeez. thats not what this is about! this is about standing up for what you believe in, regardless of the implications it may have on your political career, and sticking to your guns. now it’s turning out that the surge is working. and obama has no other choice (after being pressured and FINALLY going over there to see it first hand) but to admit this. and he wants to take credit for this?! AND he’s starting to talk about sending more troops to afghanistan?! oh my, MORE troops off to war?! how dare he??!! listen, im not a big fan of john mccain, but you people are STILL going to stick by this guy??!!

McCain is running a campaign of the past, a campaign of reaction. This doesn’t win over any sizable amount of voters.
http://www.political-buzz.com/

So for those of you that want the troops to come home i guess you dont want to fight the terriost in afghanistan and go after the taliban and just let them gain strenght plan more attacks and possibly follow through wow glad to see you love your country!!!!!!!!

Lets protest Obama for wanting to Occupy Afghanistan. The country has never done anything to United States. Whats next on the Obama bus. Invade Israel so Obama can declare peace finally in the middle east

The world should fear Pelosi’s puppet!

WE CANNOT STAY IN IRAQ FOREVER!!
give them back their country we should not have attacked them in the first place our president LIED LIED LIED to us 6 years we have been there theres always an excuse why we cant leave we put malaki in let HIM RUN THE COUNTRY WHATS THE EXCUSE TO STAY NOW???????????????????????

John F. Kennedy enthusiastically launched America’s military campaign in Indochina and Vietnam.
Does that sound like Obama with Pakistan and Afghanistan. What did these country’s ever do to the United States Obama??

MARY
fox news wouldnt know how to report news if it slapped them and oreily the clown as well as the rest of the fake news gang ARE BIG JOKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jo is that for real, that Edwards love baby or whatever. I am not ready to beleive it yet, but if it is, guess Edwards wont pass the vetting process to be VP for Obama.

you are losers using other peoples names grow up children!!!!!!!!!!

whats the difference between fox news and lets just say…. cbs? abc? nbc, msnbc? and now cnn? ya know, all the liberal reporting(if you call it reporting) stations? whats the difference between bill oreilly and lets say kieth olberman? chris matthews? you tell me… whats the difference??

I respect the fact that Mc Cain served in the military for the USA, but I have no respect for him or his campaign for president. He is a rude and angry man whose campaign is NEGATIVE.
I hope that Americans let him know how wrong his platform or lack thereof really is. Please people vote for Obama and vote in every city and state election for democrats across the board.
Help end the good ole boys network and stranglehold on politics. Time for CHANGE in Washington and I believe Obama will do his very best to bring that CHANGE about and work for ordinary people like myself.

McSame is a big joke, he has nothing else to say, crying old baby, it will be useful to send him to the Panama canal. God save America from McSame. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

tim, I hate to say it but I think it is because Americans are getting more and more stupid, and the MSM is getting ever lazier in doing their job. Can’t let anything get in the way of the ratings.
I have looked at Obama and his history and it is my opinion he has does not have the experience to be President. It almost appears that he has spent more time campaigning for public offices that he as actually served. And I do not know how someone with such an extreme liberal record can expect to work with anyone across the aisle. My vote will not be for Obama.

OBAMA LIES AGAIN …
One military official who was working on the Obama visit said because political candidates are prohibited from using military installations as campaign backdrops, Obama’s representatives were told, “he could only bring two or three of his Senate staff member, no campaign officials or workers.” In addition, “Obama could not bring any media. Only military photographers would be permitted to record Obama’s visit.”
The official said “We didn’t know why” the request to visit the wounded troops was withdrawn. “He (Obama) was more than welcome. We were all ready for him
I guess that, with making it a PR event, Obama had no reason to visit the troops. What a scumbag!

whereas he “told you the truth.”
Was that when he said he would stay in Iraq for a 100 years, or when he denied that he would stay in Iraq for a 100 years.
Different days different audience, different stance.

GARY…
i totally agree. thats the bottom line. he just dosnt have experience! that has to be the biggest consideration when choosing a canidate. there are other factors as well, but that is the main factor we should look at when we choose. like i said before, im not a huge fan of john mccain. im not a mindless voter on here playing the “my canidate is better than your canidate” game. matter of fact, im totally sick of voting for the lesser of two evils, but thats what i have to do again. thats all im saying. im not sure mccain will do well, but given his experience, his voting record, and his past, HE WILL DO A BETTER THAN BARACK OBAMA.

Gary and the rest…
why is it then (if Obama doesn’t have anything in his background to be President…kind of like Lincoln didn’t…or Kennedy really)
why is it throughout this past week Obama was able to answer every question on every detail so accurately and prescient …and Mccain who you think does seems to only talk about one specific military tactic without getting something completely wrong?
go look at the interviews and q and a’s from the past month
go look at them from the past week
Obama gets the answers detailed and right.
McCain answers …poorly 99% of the time.
You all aren’t paying attention to the individual candidates and their answers.
why do you think mcCain keeps going back to just criticizing Obama on this one piece of the past… (whther you agree with him on that one issue or not)
McCain was this way back in NH too… but his team around him makes it seem like he knows and oBama doesn’t…
watch them in a one on one question and answer.
Mccain screws up atleast once in almost every interview and has a really tough time explaining things …because if he was honest like he use to be at the beginning of the primary in NH…he doesn’t get a lot of the issues well enough to be the better president.

dl
Keep looking for your head.

Asston you idiot
the Obama campaign always knew they couldn’t bring cameras into the base.
It was not about bringing cameras in.
It was about them asking for permission to land the plane and being told that the DOD was going to conssider this a campaign trip…so when he entered he could go in as a Senator…
Obama did not want this to be perceived as using the soldiers…so he didn’t go.
There is nothing wrong with that…it is the same thing as when Mccain changed some of the specifics around the speech at the academy.

Mr. Obama, JERUSALEM IS NOT FOR SALE.

Asston
that’s what is great about you…you can never stick with the debate…so go for
“dl heep looking for your head”
are you beavis?
you don’t add to the debate…you make the McCain side seem like idiots…which most are not.

No wonder Phil Gramm thinks we’re a nation of whiners. He’s been hanging around John McCain too much.

Jeremy – wow, that’s really deep. What are you writing about for your graduate thesis?

All Of You Obama Supporters Are
Pathetic! You May Even be The Same
Person! How Is It that the Theme To
All of Your Posts is McCain
Supposedly Whining?
Actually He Is Stating The Facts, Something you Obama Cheerleaders Know Nothing About!
Due to his Sparse Resume Obama Claims
He Is Qualified To Be President Based On
His Superior Judgement!
On The Most Important Decision To Date on the Iraq War, The Surge, Obama Was
Wrong! Poor Judgement!
His 20 Year Relationships With
Rev Wright and Father Plegar, Show Obama’s Poor Judgement!
His Choice of James Johnson(he of the
Countrywide Scandal) to be on his
VP Selection Committee Shows Poor
Judgement By Obama!
His Refusal To Consider Off-Shore Drilling, Nuclear Power, and Clean Coal,
to ease the Current Energy Crisis Shows
Poor Judgement!
So By His Own Standards Barack Obama
Is Not Qualified to Be President of
The United States Of America!
Case Closed!

I can see why McSame was in the cheese section of that supermarket…..
….he needed it to go with all of this whining!!!

tim…
i guess im replying to myself on this one… lol by experience, i mean HE WAS ONLY IN THE SENATE FOR WHAT? 3 YEARS?! he’s new to the game. thats all im saying. its not a bad thing, but he just dosnt have the experience needed to be the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. and there you go again, with a really interesting analogy of george bushs’ presidency. dont lump all the problems on the president. im so sick of hearing this comparison.

dl – you’re not right and you know it. Saying different doesn’t change the facts!

dl
And Obama’s potential bombing of Pakistan is OK? Hmmm. I think I’m beginning to understand why you’re always wrong.

maybe the most important decision on the war is how to end it? ever think about that one?

Reaganfan,
McCains poor choices:
To enter Iraq
To higher his friend as his econmic advisor
To Admit he knows little about the economy
To admit he knows little about computers
Doesn’t know basic geography
Promotes a budget that depends on “winning in Iraq” for a huge amount of the budgets income. Are we on some kind of gameshow where killing Iraqes somehow makes money fall from the sky?

thanks mack… it wasnt even worth a response to me.. lol

tim…
man i hope gas gets up to 10 dollars a gallon.

Asston
one more time
what did I make up?
you keep putting up that post…give some facts.
If you are going to be trying to dis me…dis me on something real.
Pakistan is where the people who attacked US are. Pakistan is where the “freedom fighter” now known as al qaeda are growing their world entity from… with the safety of the hills and fueling on anti-US sentiment that we created over the past 8 years…and which a McCain election represents the further growth of that anti0US sentiment.
So yeah…if Pakistan won’t get rid of the terorists who actually plotted the attack on OUR homeland…then we should bomb where the terrorists are.
but we encourage them to help us first.

Tim,
McCain
– Voted AGAINST an amendment providing $20 billion to the VA’s medical facilities. [5/4/06]
– Voted AGAINST providing $430 million to the VA for outpatient care “and treatment for veterans,” one of only 13 senators to do so.
-McCain Opposed Equal Pay Bill for Women
-McCain Voted to Gut the Family and Medical Leave Act
-McCain opposed spending $100 million to prevent unintended and teen pregnancies.
McCain opposed the GI Bill,and didn’t even vote on it! Then after it passed through Congress he tried to take credit for it!!!

“Good thing Obama has 46 years of experience with people and intellegent decisions”
And 20 of those years spent in a hate church. Poor judgment and bad decisions does not equal presidential material.

dl,
Lincoln was a lawyer, and also served 4 terms in the Illinois House of Representatives and served 1 term in the US House of Representatives.
Kennedy served in the US Navy on a PT boat during WWII, I am sure you heard that story. He served 6 years in the US House of Rep and from 1952 to his election to President of the US he was a US Senator.
Please tell me where Obama has even 1/100th the experiance either of these two gentlemen had.

“Obama said withdrawal withing 16 months as long as it is safe. And that is what he still says to day.”
With no intelligence to base that decision on. Sounds sickingly familiar to the current resident of the White House.

mcain whiner whiney cry baby I DONT WANT MY PRESIDENT TO BE A WHINEY CRY BABY I WANT A REAL TOUGH LEADER THATS WHY IM VOTING FOR OBAMA
not some child like mccain sucking his thumb and pouting because hes not getting his way hes an embaressement to this country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gary read your post and tell me where Obama has less experience than that?
I agree Kennedy had a little more but not much…
Obama had 11 years experience in state legislature…taught constitutional law…was a lawyer… and is a US Senator.
tell me again

angie…
you’re crazy… lol

From immedidate withdrawal to draw down. He has consistently flip-flopped since November 2006.
Obama said withdrawal withing 16 months as long as it is safe. And that is what he still says to day….Tim
__________________________________________
Dodd and Kucinich proposed immediate withdrawal, not Obama.

Tim: Do you know where the “present” votes took place?Do you know anything about ILL state legislature and what the present vote means? Do you know how many votes Obama had? Do you know how many were “present” Check your facts.Your argument doesn’t hold water just more republican spin

ONE thirty second clip of a preachers bad day, somehow turns into 20 years of racism.
And now its not the preacher, but the whole church! Nice, this church is regarded as a great source of volunteership for its neighborhood. But thats ok, someone caught someone expressing their feelings in a time of pain.

hmm Obama is starting to loose ground. I am not trying to be snotty or funny he really needs to learn how to speak without a telepromter he sounds bad with out it. I just had someone come into the office( we always have cnn on) they had Obama speaking with the french president and guy was a young african american around 22 and stated that obama sounded dumb with the umm umm and ahhh and it was his first time hearing him not make a speech. I mean if you support Obama fine but you must admit his debate and speaking skills arent the sharpest when they are not prepared he’s not that quick on his feet and people are starting to see that.

John McCain is due in Aspen today for a meeting with the Dalai Lama. We’re told he’s going to make a statement but answer no questions. I’d like to ask McCain if there are circumstances under which he would consider Hillary as a running mate.
Sterling Greenwood
Aspen Free Press

If the McCain camp can’t come up with anything more creative than “Obama is wrong!”, they need to throw in the towel now. Republicans = angry, bitter and hateful. Look around at where this country is now and compare it to 9 or 10 years ago. In so many different ways, America cannot AFFORD another Republican in the White House!

thank you gary. liberals just dont get it. they sit and complain and complain about who? politicians so whats the answer? bigger government!!! more of the people they complain about!!! makes total sense to me… lol

DAVEM…
so all of the our problems are the republicans faults huh?! makes sense.

HEY ANGIE—–I GUESS THAT CRYBABY MCCAIN WILL SOON BE IN DIAPERS.are the repubs that dumb or is he just a sick joke–he and limbaugh look like brothers.

Aston,
Obama has given press conferences to the International Foreign Press.Your work of fiction is rather pathetic!!

tim – Sorry it took a while to get back to you. I had to go and do some real work. Anyway, it is irrelevant to say the surge is working because once we leave, the politics and ethnic divisions will take things back to where they were before we made a mess of things. As far as McCain goes. He still believes Iraq was a great undertaking that was moral and made good sense. I couldn’t disagree more. The other reason I voice my opinion against McCain and those like him is the belligerence towards Iran which I am also against.

“Many observers said my approach would end my hopes of becoming President,” he said. “My choice was not smart politics. It didn’t test well in focus groups. It ignored all the polls. It also didn’t matter.”
He’s right. McCain has said all along we need to give the surge time. It wasn’t what people wanted to hear. I must be missing something for people who say he’s complaining. If you don’t remember that he was unpopular for saying this I’d urge you to revisit history.
When you lead with your convictions like McCain has in the past, sometimes you’re unpopular. You make friends by doing this, and enemies. McCain’s been around the block. He weathers confrontation well. Clinton was the same way; people like to point out the enemies she had despite the friends she’d won with her convictions.
Where does Obama stand in the field of national convictions and politics? We don’t really know. He hasn’t really made any enemies yet, because he doesn’t really have a history of national service yet. I don’t plan to learn what his convictions are by just listening to him talk.
Actions speak louder than words, and when we have actions to point to on a national stage (not state politics which is very different than national politics), a history, experience, then we’ll know who Obama is. I’m not voting for a Pandoras box.

what do you call bomb bomb mcbush—hope it is not the same he calls his wife—-this guy has the intelligence of a turd.

sounds like harrison will only approve a candidate with a pointed hood and pillowcase—–when jfk was running the repubs tried to pass that the catholic church would run usa—you are a little sick.

ben
some good people there

Why does McCain hate peace so much?

di
jfk was a real hero–not make believe like mccain.
i would donate a thousand to see his military records unedited and in full detail—–i know it would be VERY INTERESTING

McSame and his supporters are pathetic, unrealistic and unreasonable. Who wants a 3rd term WBsuh will vote for McSame and the consequences are clear, no money for gas, no money for food no money for college tuitions, no repect at international level, no and no. God save America from McSame, send him back to the Panama cananl where he came from. Obama’s vision has been embraced by the Iraki legitimate and elected Prime Minister and his government. If the US would like to have a strong friend in the middle east, it should listen to Obama’s vision on Irak. Occupation cannot continue and who will be paying for that occupation? God save America from McSame. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

Will somebody lead McCain to his bedroom..get him a warm milk..and tell him a good ‘Cowboy and Indian story’? He really loves the excitement of the battle. He also likes to wear his ‘cowboy hat’ like another mentally challenged ‘bunk-mate’ now riding down the dusty trail on the way OUT !!!

When weighed, Obama has little experience; when challenged, he offers more talk; when confronted, he simply lies. Obama would have to kick me in the groin, elbow my ribs, crack both of my legs and tackle me to the ground before I even show him my only vote, which I will protect to give it to McCain.

McCain is such a loser! the onlY one here who is pandering and flip-flopping is John McCain not Obama! Whats a Matter McSame, Obama’s Overseas trip was a complete success and you u got is Pandering?? Your cake is cooked this november, Old Man!!
OBAMA 08′

All you people who keep saying that Obama will invade Pakistan do realize that Osama bin Laden is hiding there right?
Obama didn’t say he’d “invade” Pakistan but he did say he wouldn’t hesitate to take out Bin Laden if given the chance (whether he’s in Pakistan or somewhere else).
W disbanded the CIA unit working on capturing Bin Laden for crying out loud.
Shouldn’t that make you blood-thirsty clowns happy that Obama wants to go after Bin Laden?
Does anyone even recall that Bin Laden is behind 9/11?
Anyone?
Bueller?

The reasons McCain voted against the GI bill was when the draft is reinstalled think of how many vets would then be able to collect benefits and what those costs long term mean to the gov.

McCain has been doing nothing but complaining about nothing. I could never see this man as President. If the republicans really think he’s such a good choice why didn’t they elect him when he ran against Bush? Think about that for a minute and let that stew. The Republicans actually felt that Bush would make a BETTER President than McCain! So we are suppose to put Republican “Left-Overs” in office knowing that even Republicans did not feel he would do as good of a job as Bush? That defies logic. On top of everything else McCain seems as if he wants Obama to dumb down for his benefit. He complained because he had not been to Iraq and Afghanistan, and now he complaining because he went and is coming across favorable. Obama clearly is heads and shoulders above McCain as far as looking and articulating himself as a World Leader. Bush has made America into a laughing stalk around the globe, McCain would only contribute further to that. I challenge McCain to travel to Germany. He could probably go to the Grocery Market there and have room in the aisle for the number of people who would come and hear him speak. McCain is too old to be snivelling and whining as he has been. The Time has come for a new face and new voice of reason. OBAMA is IT!

McCain has no ethics. He cozies up to Tim Pawlenty, even though Pawlenty broke MN state ethics rules and covered up criminal acts by his campaign donor Kent Gernander.

If I were the Republicans, I’d be embarrassed by McCain.
All he can do is harp in the surge over and over again. He doesn’t discuss other issues, he has no new ideas, and all he can do is launch the same sniping complaining over and over again about this one subject. The fact that he has no depth and no range as a candidate ought to trouble the heck out of the Republicans. This guy focuses on being a one note wonder to the exclusion of every issue. Surge, surge, surge. And the vicious vitriol and over the top constant smearing and digging at Obama instead of discussing what he’ll do to get this country out of the mess it’s in just goes to show he isn’t fit to be president. He like a mad dog who can’t do anything but hang on Obama’s leg and do violent head shakes because he just can’t let go if this one stupid surge thing. And he never mentions that HE is one of the principal culprits in getting into this war in the first place. He was on the ground floor of helping Bush sell it and go half cocked in there. And even his point about the surge is simply revision of history. The surge is NOT the only or EVEN THE PRIMARY reason for the increased calm in Iraq. The following is an accurate history of the surge and the times immediately before and after it from a man who was over there and has studied it in depth. Check out this article__:___A Social History of the Surge
___http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/linkframe.php?linkid=64692___ This will give you the truth about the Surge and McCain is taking credit where he doesn’t deserve it. This man is a crummy, sleazy demagog and he is showing embarrassing signs of being even an unstable person. If I were the Republicans I’d start to worry about e McCain sounding more and more like a loose cannon, a petulant, senile child than he is any leader of this country especially at a time of crisis.

McCain “told the truth”
Which time, the man changes his position as often as his socks.

What truth? This is an insult to the good people of this country. These very same politicians lead us into this war based on lies. Of course they have cover. They can blame it on faulty intelligence. How convenient! If these have guys have any honor left in them they would have all resigned once it was clear that Iraq had no WMDs and was never a threat to our country. What a shameless piece of argument? Yet they continue with it because they do not think much of us, the public.

And McCain KNOWS about pandering. He’s the guy who changed his heroic war story about the Green Bay Packers to the Pittsburgh Steelers while in Pittsburgh two weeks ago.
TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE.

McCain should remember when Obama first came out against the war that it WAS NOT popular to be against the war. But then again, McCain can’t remember what he had for lunch..

THE MEDIA HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT MAKING MONEY
RATINGS HAVE SHOWN NO ONE WANTS TO SEE OR HEAR MCCAIN,
THE MEDIA IS NOT STUPID,THEY ARE IN THIS TO MAKE MONEY ,
IF MCCAIN HAD SOMETHING WORTHWHILE TO SAY AND WAS INTERESTING… THAT WOULD DRIVE RATINGS THEY WOULD COVER HIM IN A HURRY.
WHILE BARACK WAS HAVING A CROWD CLOSE TO QUARTER OF A MILLION , MCCAIN COULD HARDLY FILL A SMALL BAR.
GET THE PICTURE.

John McCain is JEALOUS and he’s CONSUMED with Obama’s APPEAL.
John McCain Visited the Middle East to No Fanfare, at the Tax Payers EXPENSE and his Campaign nor his Supporters, had No Issues regarding John McCain’s International Visits, he was Not President as well.
McCain Visted Germany, Britain and other European Countries, with No Fanfare and yet McCain is Pi##ed at Obama, to the Extent of making himself look like the Semi-Senile, Jack Ass,that he is !!!
McCain Recently Visted Canada, Columbia & Mexico, with No Fanfare or clamor, yet McCain, his Campaign and his Supporters Attack obama for using the Tax payers Money….
Oh Yeah, theres Issues about Obama and it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the REASONS McCain, McCain’s Campaign or Supporters ERRONEOUS COMPLAINTS…
Its Pure Undisputed Jealousy & Envy.
I wonder how the Republican Party Voted for this Lame Brain, I just can’t See McCain as their Choice for the next President of the USA.

McCain has been “telling us the truth” about Iraq from the beginning.
He told us it would be very easy and would be over quickly. That is the the kind of intellect we need. NOT!!!

Everything that John “I Know How To Win Wars” McCain, has done thus far, has been….
BRUTALLY UGLY TO HEAR OR OBSERVE !!!

McCain has done everything he can to criticize his opponent because that is about the only thing the media seems interested to report (including ABC news). I see no mention whatsoever of the substantive content of the speech you are supposedly covering with this article. I support Obama, but would like to see some substantive “political reporting” not about politicians, but about their proposed policies. Time to do the job of journalism, not tabloids.

McSame hasn’t had an original idea in this campaign yet as witnessed by his sit back and snipe and positive action or idea from Obama. Is this what he intends on doing if elected as President. We need someone proactive (like Obama) not another reactionary doofus like the current two-term loser in office.

And I suppose McCain doesn’t tell us things we want to hear? Gas tax holiday? Tax cuts and tax credits? Drill for more oil? McCain campaign being hypocrits again. Do as I say not as I do.

Lets protest Obama for wanting to Occupy Afghanistan. The country has never done anything to United States. Whats next on the Obama bus. Invade Israel so Obama can declare peace finally in the middle east
Posted by: angie. | Jul 25, 2008 3:13:47 PM
Angie, Are you kidding me? Afghanistan harbored the terrorists for some time and Bin Laden executed his World Trade Center attack from there. We were right to enter Afghanistan, we were wrong to enter Iraq. That is why we should get out of Iraq as quickly as possible so we can fight the real terrorist threat in the region. Most Democrats felt Afghanistan was a necessary war and Bush and team dropped the ball when we diverted to Iraq.

McCain needs to stop complaining, whining and crying about Obama and start trying to convince America why HE is the best candidate and HOW he is going to make the changes this country desperately needs.

Oh and I still smell a draft whomever is elected, and you can’t send your kids to Canada because they arrest and send them back and were building a fence to keep them in along the Mexican border

Will somebody please get McCain a pacifier already? Stop the crying! Whaa whaa whaa. Hey, here’s a thought McCain, how about just running your own campaign and controlling your own confused message instead of sniping at Obama and trying to control his message all the time.

Barack Osama !!?? Can’t you right wingers think of anything clever? You are such absolute chumps and ppl that know it are the Republican party. They know that they are in bed with the Saudis, the very people who killed Americans on 9/11 and they can fool you suckers into thinking Iraq had something to do with it. Next time, look really closely at a picture of Bush kissing the Saudi royals and slap yourself in the head for being such useful idiots. Suckers. Enjoy the gas prices. I can afford it, …can you?

..and I suppose that the “truth” of which McCain speaks is the blatant LIE he told (which he adamantly defended) that the Sunni Awakening happened AFTER the surge instead of half a year BEFORE the surge. Are you trying to make fools out of the American people agian McCain!? Sorry we had quite enough of that with Bush and all of his false “truths”! Throw the right wing bums out!

Do we want a President who provides aid to the emeny? I have read of McCain’s POW experience and wonder why the facts of this are now presented when McCain make such a point of his experience. What is his experience? What commands did he hold? What battles did he plan? How many soldiers were under his command? The report I have read about his interview with French reporters says he provided information to the emeny, took special aid from the emeny. As long as he want a platform of his experience, his command experience, why do we not see the facts of his miltary service. Anderson Cooper did provide some of this on July 18, 2008, but why not the rest of the press.

John McCain is the Republicans second string nominee. The first string backed out when they saw the Democratic team. The Repubs tossed in the sacrificial lamb (McCain) knowing he will lose. They likely figured Bush screwed things up enough that it will be difficult for a Democrat to turn things around in four years to eight years. They are hoping it will be long enough for the miserable Bush Administration to fade from the voter’s memory.

Wow…look at all the wingnut astro-turf writers on this ‘blog’ here.
You can simply write off all the comments that state:
1. That Obama is left wing. Really? What is Nader then?
2. Elitist. Yes, because that’s what black people are known for …being elitist and having tons of privilege.
You might as well see these comments as being written by a room with 3 paid writers in it, doing the same top-down spiel. The republicans have nothing this time and they know it. Run that southern strategy again and see if it sticks.
These people eat the crap sandwiches that the GOP serves up even though they see their party become morally depraved, indifferent to human life, borrow and spend to oblivion, and run our environment into the ground.
I can’t think of bigger chumps than the people who are still putting the Republican party above the Stars & Stripes. Total chumps.

Obama said rushing into the Iraq war with out a plan to get out was going to be a huge mistake and Obama was right. He said it in a time where many, many people were cowed by Bush and Cheney and supported the war despite their personal misgivings. McCain said the war was going to be a piece of cake and easy. He said it would be over fast. McCain says the Anbar awakening was the surge. the Anbar awakening had no new american troop surge. It was an agreement with iraq militia groups to work with our troops to go after al qaeda. It worked. Obama supported and pushed for more agreements with the Iraq government like the Anbar awakening. Iraq had 100′s of thousands of US trained troops that could have ‘surged’ and have saved the US 200 Billion and 1000 US troop lives.
Obama was for an Iraqie Army surge.
The US troop surge did make things more stable… but a large US trained Iraq army troop surge work along side our 125 thousand troops..very well could have brought stability too. We sent in 30 thousand extra US troops.. and made 200 thousand US trained Iraq troops sit out. Iraq wants us to leave. A 16 month withdraw. They are ready to take over.. more and more. Let them for god’s sake. If we keep not letting them then we will be the bad guys.

TalkieToaster – “Osama” is funny because I was using it to prove a point and you certainly proved it haha. Liberals and Democrats always like to make fun of McCain’s name and I don’t see one person complain about it because it’s funny, but when someone (like me) call Obama, “Osama”, everyone comes running to his defense and saying how ignorant or stupid people are, but the names you call McCain are just as ignorant and stupid as well. If you really want to get into facts, the people responsible for 9/11 are muslim extremists from Saudi Arabia, not Saudi royal family. I want to make it clear, not all muslims from Saudi Arabia are extremists, just like not all Liberals are tree hugging idiots. Did you notice how the moment Bush repealed the executive ban on off shore drilling (even though it did nothing because congress still has to lift their ban), price of oil began to drop and dropped over 20% in less then a day, so to answer your question, yes, I can afford gas, because in Los Angeles, its $4.29. Sucker!

Well, too bad there’s a record of what McSame actually said:
McCain: Predicted a “Brief, Successful War In Iraq.” In March 2003, just prior to the start of military operations in Iraq, McCain said on the floor of the Senate, “The costs of these enterprises are not known with any degree of certainty at this time. Nor are the costs we will incur after what I believe, what I fervently, hope, will be a brief, successful war in Iraq, as we seek to establish the foundations for a peaceful, stable and democratizing Iraq.” McCain also added, “I believe the war in Iraq can be concluded successfully in a relatively brief time.” (Congressional Record, 3/18/03)
McCain Proclaimed “There’s No Doubt In My Mind…That We Will Be Welcomed As Liberators.” “There’s no doubt in my mind that once these people are gone that we will be welcomed as liberators,” McCain said on MSNBC’s Hardball in March 2003. (MSNBC, “Hardball”, 3/24/03)
McCain: Iraq War Will Be “Relatively Short.” During a March 2003 interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” McCain said, “I believe that this conflict is still going to be relatively short. I believe we’ve achieved significant goals and successes.” (NBC, “Meet the Press,” 3/30/03)
McCain: End of Iraq War “Very Much In Sight.” In interview on ABC’s Good Morning America, McCain was asked “At what point will America be able to say the war was won?” McCain replied. “We’ve still got the oil fields in the north that have to be secured. Tikrit, Saddam Hussein’s hometown, I would imagine there’ll be some die hards there that, but I think that we, it, it’s clear that the end is very much in sight, and today I think Americans should be very proud of their leadership, their technology…There are still some foreigners, Syrians and others hanging around. But it won’t be long. It will be a fairly short period of time, but this happens in wars. I’m confident that once they are confident the area is no longer a threat to the Marines and to or army troops that they’ll start imposing discipline. In the meantime, we’ll have a short period of chaos.” (ABC, “Good Morning America”, 4/9/03)
McCain Said He Was “Sure” The End Of Conflict In Iraq Was Near. During an appearing on “Lou Dobbs Moneyline,” McCain was asked, “Is it your judgment that we are near the end of this conflict?” McCain replied, “Oh, I’m sure that’s true.” (CNN, “Lou Dobbs Moneyline,” 4/10/03)
· SUMMER 2003: MCCAIN SAID THE “MAJOR CONFLICT” WAS OVER IN IRAQ
McCain: “The Major Conflict” Is Over. McCain said in 2003, “I have said a long time that reconstruction of Iraq would be a long, long, difficult process, But the conflict, the major conflict is over … The regime change is accomplished.” (Fox News, “Your World with Neil Cavuto,” 6/11/03)
McCain Proclaimed “Massive Victory” in Iraq and Credited Combat-Readiness for “Our Victory” in Afghanistan and Iraq. “Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom demonstrated to the world what we saw just 12 years ago. We went to war as the most combat-ready force in the world. The value of that readiness is clear. We won a massive victory in a few weeks, and we did so with very limited loss of American and allied lives. We were able to end aggression with minimum overall loss of life, and we were even able to greatly reduce the civilian casualties of Afghani and Iraqi citizens. . . . Our technology edge in Afghanistan and Iraq would have been meaningless if we did not have men and women trained to use it. Having the best weapons system platforms in the world would not have given us our victory if we had not had the right command and control facilities, maintenance capabilities, and munitions.” (Congressional Record, 5/22/03)
McCain: The Mission Is “Accomplished.” In an interview with Salon.com. McCain said, “I just think — as I said — I think we will find weapons of mass destruction. Now, I think it’s entirely appropriate now that regime change has been orchestrated — and though the danger is certainly not over, the mission is ‘accomplished’ — it’s appropriate to have a hearing.” (Salon, 6/13/03)

Aston: stay on point you are responding with knowledge and integrity. The dumbdems have no teeth just like BO, empty, phony and lying sacks.

Obama will say and do anything to get votes. He is highly scripted and speaks well only when he reads from the teleprompter or listens to his ear bud, using stuttering and stalling to get the exact words from his handlers. McCain08; Hillary 2012!!

“Also give me a definition of Obama = Kennedy. Kennedy took the U.S. deep into a quagmire of Vietnam.”
Actually Omentum, I believe it was LBJ who actually is most responsible for that, not JFK.

Oh I take it back…
Vote for McCain because he’s so weak we should feel sorry for him….
Wahh Wahh I told Obama…I double dog dared him to go…then he went and I was jealous waaah wahh
Vote for McCain, for charity and Republican Entitlement.
McCain/Entitlement 08

It was John McCian who voted to go to war in Iraq in the first place!
It was John McCain who helped send 4000 of our US soldier to their deaths in Iraq.
It was John McCain who said that even knowing that the decision to invade Iraq, was based on faulty, and false information, HE STILL WOULD DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN!
SO JOHN McCAIN HAS SAID HE IS OKAY WITH SENDING OUR SOLDIERS INTO WAR WTH FAULTY AND FALSE INFORMATION!!

mccain is an ignorant old fool and obama is a narcissistic young fool…..once again, we are forced to decide between two poor choices…..

I’m not sure if Senator McSame has significant memory loss or not, because he can’t seem to get times and dates correct.
My mom went through this with Alzheimers that comes with age. He should get a check up. Let’s face it he looks like a bumbling idiot at times and I feel bad saying that, but his whole campaign stands on negative antics and desperation. He is very annoying to look at or listen to. BORING is a more accurate discription of his atempt to make public speeches. I am supporting and voting for OBAMA because, I believe he is a very good choice to bring about CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.

Obama is wrong to blame Bush, the Pentagon, or McBush for not visiting those wounded kids.
He is a sitting US Senator and known of them could have stopped him. Nobody, not even his mindless robots, is really fooled.
He is a more embarrassing hypocrite to what’s left of the party than Al Gore.

GOP TALKING POINTS PRIMER:
Strategy #1: Keep using the word “liberal” when you talk about the Democrats. This tactic has been in use for 28 years.
Strategy #2: Use a lot of name-calling. Avoid discussing issues that are not on this week’s play list.
Strategy #3: Use buzzwords like “not qualified” “inexperienced” to describe Obama. Be careful not to screwup and use these words to describe George W. Bush.
Strategy #4: DON’T TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY! Just keep talking about “the surge” as if its some grand high exalted mystic phrase.
AND FINALLY . . .
Strategy #5: Use boogeyman politics. You know, it’s the upgraded Willie Horton thing. Whine a lot so that people will be scared into voting for John McCain. Or better yet, forget to vote. Remember: McWhine. McWhine. McWhine.

Dan – I have listened to his speeches and as I have said, he reads very well from a teleprompter and he speaks very elegantly. That is a great asset to have for a presidential candidate. The things he says in his speeches are very general and they sound good because they are so overreaching. I’ve seen his website during his primary race and many of these things he has posted has been changed or been erased (in fact, I can’t even go to his site now because it REQUIRES that you make a mandatory donation to his campaign, kinda reminds me of his mandatory mandates for universal health care). My point is, during his many speeches to the American public, he has never talked about anything that is useful to the American people in regards to policy and legislation, but instead just keeps repeating “hope” and “yes we can” and when he has, like during debates, he switches his positions so you never know what he really is about.

Funny thing happened to me this week,I had a feeling of elation and pride about my country,watching Obama.Sadly over the last 8 yrs,I’ve been subjected to a bloody fool,and his wretched gang of criminals and thugs violating our Constitution and laws.Making a mockery of his office,abusing his power,and forcing America to her knees.Getting rid of Rumsfield,and allowing commanders in Iraq to call the shots,that’s the reason it’s working,not Bush,and his minions.McCain is a disgruntled,senile,and mean spirited old goat.He,and Bush’s hangers on. will be the demise of America ! God help us !

Sharon White – Help yourself, its about personal responsibility!!

What a bitter old fool. How does the poster child for the only war America lost (Vietnam) come out and say he knows how to win wars? I don’t get it.
“remarkable”
Latest I read about McCain was that he now thinks 16 month timetable is okay.
Doesn’t that make him a surrender monkey? a traitor at least.

Fox News Wouldn’t know news if it hit them in the face.

On Taxpayers and Obama’s Trip:
The middle east tour with two other senators was paid by taxpayers.
The tour of Europe is being financed by Obama’s campaign, NONE of which includes tax dollars.
Compare that to McCain’s 2008 trip, of which was entirely funded by tax dollars.
And compare that to the public tax payer funds McCain will receive in September to the tune of $80 MILLION.
Now who is wasting our money, again?

That’s what Obama does, talk in platitudes, put forth a bunch of ridiculous, utopian ideas and, of course, embrace socialism.
It’s sad that the MSM has completely abandoned journalistic integrity, unbiased coverage and actually doing their jobs. If the empty suited wonder had actually been vetted by the media like he should have the poll numbers would be more like 22% Obama 75% McCain with 2-3% undecided.
McCain 08 – The lessor of two evils

Any else ever notice Obama only talks about our future whether it’s right or wrong.. You never hear Obama whin or complain about McSame..
But McSame… all he does is complain about Obama…
It’s getting old Johnny boy

QUOTE: Obama is disgusting. His ignorance and ego took center stage on this overseas trip
REPLY: What a moron comment. How many Americans live in Europe and now had a chance to see one of their candidates. Thousands is how many.

Angie, where is your Education. First Osama Bin Laden who is behind the 911 attacks from what we’ve been told is between Afghanistan and Pakistan. America was attacked by this man so our goverment tells us. So stupid do you go after the man who attacked your country and killed over 3000 people, or do you attack a nation over a lie like weapons of mass destruction. You are truly stupid.

A conservative is like this: When different trays of fruit are brought before a conservative and they are asked “What is it?” they always say the same thing – it’s an apple (even though it was an orange).
A liberal is like this: When different trays of fruit are brought before a liberal and they are asked “What is it?” they respond with – it’s whatever you want it to be.
They both have the same common problem – a profound inability to think and analyze. Unfortunately, most of you folks are in one or the other of these camps. You need to start thinking things through or something very nasty will happen to you! Why not keep thinking all the way through to the election and then make your choice, not now.

AZN – you need to get you’re facts straight. The tax payers paid for the Iraq and Afghanistan portion of the trip as they did all of McCain’s trips that were considered “fact finding”. The rest of the European trip was paid for by Obama’s campaign. I’m getting pretty tired of needing to correct people that do nothing but repeat what they hear on the Limbaugh / Hannity talk radio talk shows the day before. I’ve never heard anyone spin and spew as many lies and masquerade them as fact as those two bozos.

reaganfan, everything you said in reference to Obama is something you heard, and if you took the time and researched you would know you are repeating lies, but constant ignorance causes people to live blindly and elect people like Bush and Cheney.

I had a lot more respect for McCain until he sold out to Bush on the torture & waterboarding issues. Now he just seems like a Ronald Reagan rerun.

Why are some people jelous that Obama is loved In EU. I mean that is just another good thing he brings to the table. My god may be he an make give this contry what it had before the last 8 years.
120,000 came to see Kennedy’s speech
45,000 came to see Regans speech
200,000 CAME TO SEE OBAMA
that will say all i need to say

McFlip Flop tells Wolf Blitzer that he thought Obama’s 16 months was a pretty good timetable. Like every speech of McCain’s lately, his confusing verb tenses claim that we have won and will win, have succeeded and will succeed and yet he’s still able to predict “defeat” from Barack Obama’s position, despite all this winning and success. It’s a stunning psychic ability for McSame as he then says that the troops will come home during “the next president’s first term.” Isn’t that what Obama promised as well? McSame actually told Wolf Blitzer that he thought Obama’s 16 months was a pretty good timetable. Confused yet? As Logan points out, McCain says that when he brings the troops home, they’re staying home. What does he plan on doing in Afghanistan? Those permanent bases in Iraq? Is this yet another flip-flop?
Even Joe Klein, who has always taken his status as a Beltway Bubble Villager so seriously, is finding McCain unhinged.
This is the ninth presidential campaign I’ve covered. I can’t remember a more scurrilous statement by a major party candidate. It smacks of desperation. It renews questions about whether McCain has the right temperament for the presidency. How sad.[..]
The reality is that neither Barack Obama nor Nouri al-Maliki nor most anybody else believes that the Iraq war can be “lost” at this point. The reality is that no matter who is elected President, we are looking at a residual U.S. force of 30-50,000 by 2011 (a year ahead of the previous schedule). The reality is that McCain should be proud that he helped salvage a disastrous situation by pushing the counterinsurgency plan. It’s something to run on. But, at this point, McCain must sense that it’s not a winning hand. Obama, the poker player, has drawn to an inside straight: the Iraqis favor his plan over McCain’s long-term bases. That must be galling. But it’s no excuse to pop off the way McCain did. It was, shockingly, unpresidential.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/25/mccain-increasingly-more-unhinged-in-denver-speech/

John McCain was a damn fool to vote for the war in the first place.

The Obama campaign dismisses McCain’s criticism as “angry, false accusations.” There’s this arrogant quality to Obama and followers. You can’t dismiss McCain, et al, with “angry and false accusations”. Get real, and talk the issues vice talking lofty, empty rhetoric. Start producing some ten-point plans and whitepapers for a *change*! Otherwise, Obama really is an empty suit.

I see Obama as someone who will say anything to be elected and then lie like a Clinton. We Americans forgot that we have a mind and we are not born from one party or another. I will never vote for someone who has voted present as many times as Obama. He is a joke and he is letting all of you weak minded liberals think he is the man to solve your problems. When your taxes are raised and the fees for items raise then you will see that you were wrong. I dont want to wait and I will not let him have a change to make American like peole on the street with there hand out for money. I dont vote blindly and have not picked my candidate, but it will not be Obama.

McCain couldn’y fly combat
aircraft with skill and lost
or crashed five of them.
His personal attacks campaign
with little else is headed for
the same fate.

Sergio Vieira de Mello was the 55-year-old diplomat killed in Iraq. He had taken a leave of absence from his job as the U.N. high commissioner for human rights to accept the four-month assignment in Baghdad at Annan’s request. He was killed when a cement truck exploded outside of the newly established headquarters for the UN in Iraq back in 2003. He was trapped in the rubble and died, but he urged rescurers not to abandon the Iraq cause before his death.
Since then the surge has brought relative stability to Iraq. Obama wants to abandon Iraq. The past was tragic, but let’s not revisit chaos. Let’s fulfill Sergio Vieira de Mello’s vision for the Iraqi people – a democratic and stable Iraq.

Hey Everyone has anyone heard about the John Edwards story? Apparently he was caught in a hotel in Beverly Hills seeing his lover and love child!

No matter how RIGHT McCain thinks he is about Iraq, he seems to have forgotten (maybe its his age)that the invasion of Iraq was and always be the WRONG war we inflicted upon the middle east.
9-11 was always about Bin laden, it was about the Taliban, it was about eradicating terrorist organizational structures in Afghanistan. We are losing THAT war, the war that was meant to give vindication to all those innocent Americans who died on a sunny day in September.
mcCain wants to perpetuate the lie that is/was Iraq.
McCain=Bush=trample our constitution

yes, as i was saying… obama bin lyin’s chief merit is his ability to manipulate the sub 100 crowd. sort of like shootin’ fish in a barrel. mcaine is not the ideal candidate either, but at least he’s had real jobs in his life – something obama bin lyin can’t resolutely claim.

Here are the 29 Democrat Senators who voted “Yea” to authorize the Iraq War. Are you sure they are telling you the truth? Or are they only telling you want to hear to make you feel good and to fuel your anger against Bush? They voted for the Iraq war but blame Bush when public opinion on the war turned sour. Obama is claiming McCain was wrong on the Iraq War? How about these 29 senators from his party? Where is the accountability and ownership when they make mistakes? What if the Iraq War did not go in accordance with the Obama administration, President Obama will blame former President Bush and the generals.
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)

atl, ‘ignorance” is not the problem, and you can’t even call it stupidity when talking about prepubescent twits. Theyre just like Obama. They havent the capacity to discern.
Obama is just another American tourist. Never a diplomat.
Read the first part of this “report”. This isnt just spun, it’s swizzled and abstracted.
All they have to do is convolute the wording a bit for the mob of Oblamer fanatics to hear everything they want to hear.
Tragic.
This country is caving in to the vacuuous heads of teenieboppers.

ScottNH,
Why change the topic? We are discussing whether it was right or wrong to pull out of Iraq a year ago, what would have been the consequences, and where Obama and McCain stood on the issue.
McCain was OBVIOUSLY right, and your lose your credibility when you try to doubt that.
McCain was more than likely wrong to vote for the war (bear in mind, though, that Obama himself said he is not sure how he would have voted and later actually SUPPORTED THE WAR).
But McCain was RIGHT and Obama WRONG when it comes to the surge.

Now McCain thinks a 16 month withdrawal timetable sound about right.
Pandering hypocrite!!!!!!

McCain was at the cheese counter so he could get something to go with his whine..

We don’t need the tempermental John McCain as President. You can see him in videos, when his nastiness is at its peak. Try to imagine how much further US relations would fall with just about every other nation in the WORLD.
When he’s angry he’s totally out of control; you can see his veins popping and tell he would just love to perform a total smackdown! People, wake up, it’s not too late to save our nation from this type of debacle!

Now that the ENTIRE world agrees that 16 months more in Iraq should be all that’s required, McCain included, this story is pointless. I bet this was drawn up in the “2006, Col. McFarland started the surge…let’s surge for surgings sake” two days ago cycle. ABC not quick enough for McFlip-Flop. It seems McCain’s point is, if Obama recognizes the success of the surge, I’ll recognize 16 months is a good time table. Oh, but the old man forgot to get Obama to confess his acknowlegement of the surge. Surge…surge…surge…haven’t we said that word way too many times in the last few months!!!

vote4peace,
I turned that garbage as soon as I saw it too. It seems they’re trying to drum up a story, so that Obama won’t pick Edwards as VP. I thought Edwards had the best platform going in. But then the phenomenom call Obama happened.
Obama ’08

Somehow, I believe this Edwards story’s validity will turn out like the infamous “whitey” tape!!!

They got pictures!!!

Did any of you catch Senator McCain speaking in front of 200,000 yesterday? No? Why, it did happen, indeed. 200,000 decibles of wind chimes. At first, I thought someone off camera was doing the water-in-the-wine-glass thing. But, it kept on and on and on. I just knew, someone would remove the wind chimes, or remove the idiot talking. Neither happened, and all we know is McCain is still upset Senator Barack Hussein Obama will not recognize the SURGE.
I’m voting for Senator Barack Hussein Obama, for President of the United States. Unashamed, and unapologetically!!!

tom,
Keep holding your breath. I bet they surface the same day as the “whitey” tape.

Beth: Says who?? FOX NEWS??? Have you seen them?? Give me a break. With all the major issues our country is suffering, you’re on here spreading gossip like a nosey ol’ woman. How immature. You Desperate desperate Republicans, can’t spread anything positive so you try drowning us with all your negativity, no wonder you’re voting for McCain…birds of a feather. Anyone one in their right mind wouldn’t be a Republican in 2008.

Wake up all you stupid people throw away your Bible pick up your koran burn your flag put a towel around your head & vote for Obama your new muslim president aren’t you proud of him he won’t stand & face our flag or wear one on his lapel he has more BS than a barn yard watch our taxes go out of sight & if he gets in no body voted for him remember once a muslim always a muslim

tom,
Or better yet, the “whitey” tape, Edwards pictures, the Dem. Convention, Jimmy Hoffa lands a UFO at Jeremiah Wright’s house, while Bill Ayers explodes a bomb to break Farrakhan out of jail.
Yeah, FOX Noise strikes again. Or, was that Larry Johnson?

Take it easy on McCain folks………this man is a respected veteran and POW of the Civil War.

tom,
You re-thuglican pukes can’t have it both ways…(or, maybe you’re like that and you can). Either spread stories about Edwards being “gay-ish”, or he’s a lady hound, having midnight paternity fights in the hallways of cheap hotels. You can tell the re-pukelican naratives are not going well.

sirvin: So are you saying all Muslims are bad people? You republicans are the only ones who seems to believe Obama is a Muslim, just a lousy excuse to hide behind your true colors. Listening to too much Rush and Fox News…the station that couldn’t even spell “education” right. When will you Republicans realize that being so negative is pushing people away from even voting for McCain. I’m sure your actions are making him proud. Birds of a feather.

Today on CNN, John McCain stated that a 16 month timetable for withdrawal from Iraq ‘is a pretty good timetable’ in an interview with Wolf Blitzer.
John McCain has been repeatedly hammering Barack Obama for a withdrawal timetable. Now, McCain is endorsing it. What a flip-flop.

tom,
Go ahead…I’ll wait!!!

tom,
The ONLY poll Obama dropped in was the FOX Noise poll. And guess what, he was still leading that one too!!! CNN/WSJ poll today…Obama 47/McCain 41. Not even FOX was bold enough to tell that lie that McCain is up in the polls now.

tom,
McCain gaining ground in key battleground states??? Which ones??? Every news site has scrubbed that BS. You wanna know why, Obama was still up decisively in ALL of them. Sean Hannity…”Hal Turner’s Puppet” even went as far to say…”give McCain, Romney in Michigan and Pawlenty in Minnesota, and he could win this thing” last night. Of course, he could win like that…the problem though…he can’t pick two VP’s. Sean oughta been pulled from the air that instant!!!

American voters need Sen. McCain’s explanation and definition of why he’s suddenly all for al Maliki’s 16 month timetable for withdrawal and dead-set against Obama’s 16th month timetable for withdrawal. After all, al Maliki derived his from Obama.
All McCain can do at this point is take cheap shots and hope the cognitive dissonant amongst us will somehow show up and vote for him.

Manitu: I absolutely want Obama as our leader, I rather depend him than depend on someone who depends on Depends, you’re more than welcome to though.

Well Frank, “my friend” Prime Minister Maliki’s plan includes a surge. And you see, without surging, Obama advocate’s surrender to Al-Queda in Iran. The most lethal enemy known across the Iraqi-Pakistani border. And, the 16 months he’s referring to are “time-framable” months. Not actual calendar months…get it???
Neither do we!!!

Polls show tight race: Keep believing in polls, polls that are taken every single day. Who are they polling, and who’s not tried of hearing about polls every day? You and Manitu keep watching Fox News since they get their talking points from the White House,I’m sure they’ll keep you well informed.

I am SOOOOOO TIRED of John McCain and his whinning about the freaking surge!!! We shouldn’t have been in Iraq in the FIRST PLACE!!!! And he voted to send us there!!! Where was his JUDGEMENT then??????!!!

Did any of you catch Mc16MonthsSoundsGoodNow when Katie Couric asked him which war he knows how to win? His answer…Bosnia/Kosovo, Gulf War, Spanish-American War, Civil War, and the Battle of Babylon. He said NOTHING about the actual war he participated in!!! You wanna know why? HE WAS CAPTURED ON HIS 23RD MISSION!!! Most pilots flew 2, 3, sometimes 4 missions a day. That gives good ole McSurgeEmToDeath 6-12 days worth of “war” experience!!! Hell, with Obama’s trip this week, he’s at least got to be tied in “war” experience.

Manitu: But who was wrong in going to Iraq in the FIRST place?? Don’t start in the middle, START from the beginning..I dare you.

Tina.
NO PROBLEM – JUST GET “OUR LEADER – OBAMA” TO EXPLAIN JUST HOW THE SURGE HAS NOT WORKED AND I’M SURE THAT WILL BE THE END OF IT!! PROBLEM IS THAT HE CAN’T, AS THE SURGE HAS WORKED AND WORKED WELL. ACTUALLY, OBAMA WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF JUST ADMITTING TO IT – IMPROVE HIS CREDIBILITY – REMEBER NIXON?

McBush says it was not politically polular for him to back the surge…the secret 2006 one, or the actual 2007 troop surge. That’s actually a lie, too. The President called for the surge. And, since McCain voted 99% of the time with the Bush Administration last year, it was pretty comfortable for him to do so POLITICALLY!!! This guy is a FRAUD.

vote4peace.
Certainly, agree or disagree for reasons going into Iraq. We did that based upon (SOME) faulty information that even your Dems got wrong. Also you libs always conveniently FORGET about the many UN resolutions which were ignored by Iraq -THE SURGE/OBAMA ISSUE -FACTS OF SUCCESS ARE CRYSTAL CLEAR, OBAMA WAS JUST PLAIN WRONG AND WILL NOT ADMIT THAT HE WAS WRONG!!

It really is rather sad to see the same 20% who think George Bush was annointed by Go trying to run his tossed-under-the-bus opponent from 2000 as a refreshing change.
Sounds more and more like the same fear-and-smear the GOP used in 2000.

There were NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!!!! When is McShame going to admit HE was WRONG!?!?!?!?!

Sorry libs – hate to burst your bubble, but, back when Obama proposed the 16 month timetable – WE HAD NOT YET COMPLETED OUR JOB IN IRAQ – NOW IT’S PRETTY MUCH A DONE DEAL. THINGS PRETTY QUIET – RETURNING TO NORMAL. A LITTLE DIFFERENT SITUATION, WOULDN’T YOU SAY?

Temagami: Suggestion, read Scott McClellan’s book “What Happened” I dare ya.

I guess some of you guys never heard the story that Hussein PLANTED the weapons stories to keep Iran off his back – also never believed the US would attack based upon the playboy mentality that was displayed with Bill Clinton. All of this came out before he was executed and story confirmed by our GIs.

Manitu: Oh now in the last 24 hours Iraq is suddenly a done deal?? Give me a break. You’re a day late and a dollar short, that’s what happens when you depend on a person who depends on Depends, oh and let’s not forget to give Fox News and Rush their props along with you & McCain.

Jimbo,
You can believe that if you want. But, the UN mandated that they verify the disarmament. They submitted a 2000 page dosier, that did that. El Presidente Jorge Bush, disregarded that document and sent Secretary of State Colin Powell (he didn’t have the guts to do it himself) in front of the UN to tell a BOLD-FACE LIE!!! Ten days later, I had my @ss in Iraq, killing for a LIE!!!

Snarxon.
McCain has thrown in the towel? Obama was right about everything? PROFOUND.

Goodnight gentlemen!!! Its been a blast!

“Many observers said my approach would end my hopes of becoming President”
YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN!!!!
“My choice was not smart politics.”
YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN!!!!
“It didn’t test well in focus groups. It ignored all the polls. It also didn’t matter.”
YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN!!!!

Temagami is correct – he is putting out some good info and truths and all the libs can do do is either divert the subject or spout worn out arguments that are opinion based rather than that of rational thinking. For instance, Temi gave a clear assessment re, Surge/Obama issue – poster came back with, I AM SO SICK OF… another diverted with, WE should have never been in Iraqn the first place.

SAY GOODNIGHT, JOHN!!!

McCain is breaking to the pressure just like he did in VietNam. In 24 hours, he has gone from “16 months would be surrender” to “16 months sounds like a good time-frame” Boy, no wonder the VC kept him for five years…this guy says anything when the heat is on!!!

Jimbo: Yeah, now whine that the “Libs” won’t submit to your so-called ‘reasoning’ and talk about the DISASTER IN IRAQ on your terms and within your convoluted ‘logic’.
TOO LATE.
The Repubs HAVE NO MORE CREDIBILITY.
McCAIN JUST TOSSED HIMSELF UNDER THE BUS.
SAY GOODNIGHT, JOHN!!!

One thing for sure, with McCain at least we will have a CHANCE of expanding our own oil capabilities. With Obama, NO WAY – windmills and green – too many environmental loons own Obama.

Blitzer: But, if Maliki persists and wants US troops out in a year, two years, 16 months…
Old Man Shouting At Cloud: He won’t, he won’t, he won’t…
Blitzer: How do you know?
Old Man Shouting At Cloud: Because I know him, I know the leaders over there. I’ve been there 8 times as you know…
Blitzer: He just said 16 months sounds like a reasonable time-frame…
Old Man Shouting At Cloud: But, he’s talking about condidtions based. Look, 16 months sounds like a reasonable time-frame.
WOW!!! Next issue, Immigration Reform that he would not vote for today…you know the bill he co-sponsored last year, and is now losing the Hispanic vote 66-23.

Manitu: At least we can continue living in the past? Fighting Viet Nam another two or three more times? Maybe we could even bring Frank Sinatra back from the dead?
I’d suggest it’s time for you to climb onto an ice floe and push off to meet your Creator, BUT THERE AREN’T ANY LEFT.
WELCOME TO THE PRESENT DAY.

Occasionally, there are some Obama supporters who post some some pretty rational stuff – good dialog – I’ll try tomorrow night.

vote4peace, we know in your world, obama can do no wrong.
Reality is not an options for you is it?

Like Manitu says, it doesn’t matter. Obama will not or cannot help us with the energy situation unless he socks it to “BIG OIL.” SOME HELP!

It is clear the the lib hatred of Bush/Big oil/ military, etc has clouded their thinking. How often do do see any discussion of rational solving of issues in this campaign? Mostly BS, AS WITH “THEIR LEADER.”

Obama for shale and nukes? News to me – even if the case, Obama has no chance with those that own him.

angie-
You said: “MCCAIN you have some nerve to talk about pandering all the pandering you have done so far throughout this campaign you sir are a whiney jealous old man!!!!!!!!!!”
I say Obama is arrogant, inexperienced and changes his stance on some issues to satisfy voters and he is not traveling to other countries as a private citizen. The only reason he is traveling is because he is the democratic nominee in the race that will select the next president of the United States of America. If he does become our next president I hope that I am not correct because if I am we’re in trouble.
Unfortunately, the one candidate who would have made a great president is no longer in the running so our choices are somewhat limited.
Now you called McCain an old man. That’s kind of discriminatory don’t you think?

suelj2
Obama NOT JUST INEXPERIENCED, baggage problems, problems with judement – lack of and HE IS OWNED BY THE FAR LEFT. He also does not seem to have a handle on economics. For instance. He thinks that by socking it to the so called fat cats, he will be able to pass some of that money to the “Lower Classes.” Problem is that every time a pres tried that the money people simply put their money off shore or into tax free munis -and the rest of us poor slobs got stuck with the increase in taxes for social programs that don’t work!!

” Problem is that every time a pres tried that the money people simply put their money off shore or into tax free munis -and the rest of us poor slobs got stuck with the increase in taxes for social programs that don’t work!!”
Exactly. The redistribution of wealth will be squeezed from the middle-class.

BruhMan.
Your post at 111:16 PM (7/25) stated that in 2000 the Iraqi gov submitted a 2000 page ans to the UN and that ten days later your were OVER THERE KILLING FOR A LIE. WE DID NOT INVADE IRAQ UNTIL 2003 – WERE YOU IN SOME KINDA RECON? BEEN HAD?

72 per cent of American voters believe John McCain would make the best Commander-In-Chief of this nation.
Guess what?? The are spot on. J
John McCain was right about the surge.

Repubsout.
WOW, TALK ABOUT HATE!! As in professional driving and in professional sports, hate and anger DOES cloud that persons ability to perform and to think rationally – as in your post.
McCain 08

dl:
Whether it was a wrong decision or not,
we have to deal with the current
situation!
Obama’s 16 month pullout idea will
force us to go back in at a later date
and cause us to lose more troops and
spend more money there!
It’s better to win the war now, decisively, and bring our troops home
in victory and honor!

McCain has nothing useful to say or suggest that might persuade people to vote FOR him rather than Against Obama.
He doesn’t realize that he sounds like all there is to him is he’s not the smart guy.
Oh wait, he’s not the smart guy. Fifth from the bottom of his class. So John McCain is doing exactly what he knows how to do.
Lose. Because he has nothing else in his head.

120,000 came to see Kennedy’s speech
45,000 came to see Regans speech
200,000 CAME TO SEE OBAMA
that will say all i need to say -loveobama
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you forgot to mentioned that there was a concert afterward. Nice try.

The Republicans are going to see a “SURGE” in November that they are not going to like and it wont be in Iraq…