McCain Proposes Additional Troops for Afghanistan

When Obama goes overseas this month…Bush will see how a president with savy,intelligence and class acts.

How is John McCain a copycat, when in fact, the Senate committee Obama was supposed to be chairman of was assigned to look into getting more NATO troops for Afghanistan? That was how many years ago? Even in the primary debates, Obama had not even called a meeting. Saying Obama was the first to call for more troops is a joke. Obama’s camp loves to play with their artificial stances after he has continually backtracked on every issue. Who wants a leader who has become well known for changing and “refining” his previous stances? Obama cannot be trusted to make any firm decisions we can count on. McCain has continually worked to assure success with our missions in the Middle East. This report, in fact, reveals that McCaing spoke for increases for Afghanistan in December of 2006, and February of 2007. He has been constant in his opinions of what is needed and necessary. He is on record, and has consistently stood up for successful efforts. Obama is a waffling latecomer. In fact, he is “just words”.

McCain’s new slogan should be “FOLLOW THE LEADER”. Can this candidate possess an independent and original thought? Honestly, I know that Obama has has his own issues in the past regarding flip flopping, but this is ridiculous.

It’s amusing to see Obama try to act like he knows anything about anything. Especially when it comes to foreign affairs. He’s so clueless.
President McCain – get use to it. The polls are now tied up and the novelty has worn off for Obama. People are wising up.

really *not* against what he’d said previously.

so McCain said more troops may be needed in Afghanistan depending on the conditions… now, a month later, as conditions have worsened, he says there should be more troops. whats the issue? is Obama’s reading comprehension that bad?

Obama: Making a mountain out of a mole-hill. Again!

Obama wants to surrender in Iraq. Now that we’re finally winning, he wants to surrender.

There is nothing wrong with McCain changing his mind about what to do in Afghanistan due to a change of events. That is not flip-flopping, that is what any leader should do. What Obama has done is flip-flop because he took a tough stance on Iraq based on his promise to supporters to get out of Iraq by saying that he would have all the troops out in 16 months. Now he is changing his basic position which got him the nomination. I don’t even understand how Obama and his supporters don’t see the difference. If McCain had said we should be out of Afghanistan within 16 months, then his position might be flip flopping, but he has never said that.

Obama does himself no favours when he tries to act tough on foreign policy. He is the weakest candidate of the two and i know he loathes the military (unless your a decorated general).
McCain has to keep reminding people of Obama’s weaknesses because Obama wont get his face off the TV. McCain is just reminding the average joe that there is an alternative to the inexperienced Obama

Jane: Anything we can do there we’ve already done. There isn’t anything more we can achieve there, and the Iraqis don’t even want us anymore.
How is that surrender?

These latest developments make Bush/McCain look like foreign policy amateurs. Obama has been talking about increased forces in Afghanistan for over a year. Bush/McCain are finally ready to support that policy now that it appears Afghanistan is coming apart at the seams. If Obama had been CIC during the past year, Afghanistan would probably be more under control by now. Also, the Bush administration is now ready to meet with Iran with no pre-conditions as Obama has recommended since the beginning. Obama is now taking the lead on foreign policy issues. Bush/McCain are performing a delayed reaction.

Louise
funny how the inexperienced one keeps making all the right judgment calls so much so that even the president is following his lead
hmmmm
guess all that military experience of mccains is doing nothing for him

I was at Senator McCain’s town hall meeting in Albuquerque yesterday, and after an hour and a half of clear, concise, and well thought answers, I’m convinced that John McCain would make the best leader of this great country of ours. It’s easy to take out a sound bite here or there in the negative, but in the big picture, he’s the best man for the job.

“Attention candidates!!! Please stop telling me why I should not vote for the other guy and start telling me why I should vote for you!”
If only the media would give them a chance, and not encourage these kind of smaller tempest-in-a-teapot scale ‘scandals’

McCain’s mideast foreign policy: — 100 years in Iraq if necessary — bomb bomb bomb Iran — ship more cigarettes to Iran to kill them — keep Lieberman around in case Sunni/Shia confusion comes up again — ignore Afghanistan since that was Obama’s idea — if all else fails consult GW Bush.

Can’t wait to see Obama in a real debate without the fluff questions. We see how well he did with Charlie Gibson and George Stefanopolus, those mean old right wing journalists.

Obama the fool doesn’t want to ask NATO for more troops.

Obama is against any air strikes where there is any possibility of any collateral damage.
Remember in the 90′s when all those strikes against bin laden were called off that will be like what we get with Obama.

micheal
so you dont know what your talking about

Michael: McCain has been to all NATO conferences this past decade.What does that prove…he’s still wrong on the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Didn’t learn much did he.

I just hope Dubya will all his coloring books and crayons behind for the next president, because I don’t think either are qualified!

The sad thing about all this? Anyone actually this far down in the comments is probably never going to change their opinion, so what we’re arguing about is pointless. I’m out.

smiling——did you see mccain in the interview when he was asked about viagra,, he couldnt talk he was lost why?? because he didnt have a speach writer and it wasnt about war—because like yesturday mccain says he knows how to win a war——–yet who got shot down 5 times and held hostage yes he is a brilliant war technician. he is so old and out of touch he doesnt even know how to use a computer.

Roger,
If you were a real supporter of Hillary, no way will you ever vote for McCain because of his policies. Unless of you never were a Hillary supporter and you’re just another neo-con who thinks the Dems are divided (Not!)
OBAMA 08

Roger,
Really? How on earth did he disrespect her in any way? In any case, any mature adult would make his/her choices on substance and nothing else. And on substance, there is basically no difference btwn Obama’s and Hillary’s. McCain is just the same old Bush ####. Everything from economy to National Security!
Just curious, is there any one who supports McCain that can really come up with a substantive arguement that promotes McCain? All they do is try to tear up Obama, but nothing that promotes their candidate. Could it be because McCain & his policies are just TOO WEAK and TOO OLD!
OBAMA 08 & 12.

Bush is now willing to talk to his enemies? To Iran?
What happened?
McCain now understands where the real war on terror is? What happened?
I do not blame Bush and McCain to follow a leader with JUDGEMENT: BARACK OBAMA.

Now Bush will talk with Iran?
I thought, they “don’t negotiate with evil, we defeat it.” (Cheney, 07).
Now they follow Obama’s lead?
A pity Obama hasn’t been running for President the last 7 years. Maybe Bush would’ve have followed Obama’s strategy during the time and our country wouldn’t be a wreck now.

To all the McCain supporters,
I would like to know if your presidential candidate has already issued a statement to denounce his mentor (George Bush) on his new position, agreeing for the first time that Barack Obama was right (once again) when he said that we need to talk to nations and leaders like Iran (Armadinejad). Has McCain called Bush’s decision to talk to Iran on Saturday July 19, 2008, surrender or waving the white flag? Or, seeing that his mentor has flip-flopped he too will toe the line and flip-flop on talking to our enemies?

Adm Mullen also agrees with Senator Obama:
Navy Adm. Michael G. Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said insurgent Taliban and extremist forces in Afghanistan have become “a very complex problem,” one that is tied to the extensive drug trade, a faltering economy and the porous border with Pakistan. Violence in Afghanistan has increased markedly over recent weeks, with June the deadliest month for U.S. troops since the war began in 2001.
“I don’t have troops I can reach for, brigades I can reach, to send into Afghanistan until I have a reduced requirement in Iraq,” Mullen told reporters at the Pentagon. “Afghanistan has been and remains an economy-of-force campaign, which by definition means we need more forces there.”
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This means we need to get out of Iraq to have enough troops to effectively fight the Taliban and AQ in Afghanistan. That has been Obama’s position from the very beginning.

OBAMA 08———–thats all you need to know

Jennifer: You are soooo right!!!!!

Susan: Obama did say he would be out of Iraq in 16 months, but if you had been listening to what he said; he also said “We will as Carefully get out of Iraq as we Carelessly got in” I would think that the word Carefully means that he would be talking to the Admirals and Generals so they could devise a working plan. A president has to be flexable and willing to listen. But, in the end, the decisions are his.

we will never never make the middle east safe we will never never make the radical islamic people stop wanting to kill us. when mccain said a hundred years that is what it will be then we will have sold off everything that made us america and we will cease to exist as a country but for those hundred years we will be safe. come on people we either nuke the whole region and end it once and for all or get out and protect our borders and our people. but we must get the boots off the ground.

Yoni: Why is McCain the only one that did not go to Jail? After all he was one of the Keating 5!!!!

After 9/11; Why did we go into Iraq instead of going after Bin Ladin? I know they were SUPPOSE TO HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!! But they did not. We had been HAD!!!

I have to laugh when any right-winger brings up Senator Obama’s “flip-flops – McCain has 75 to his credit already. And the pols? MSM looking for ratings – it is not the polls that matter but the electoral college. Obama and his team are hugely successful at re-drawing ALL of the red and blue state maps out there. None of the pundits wisdom will apply this time around. Barack has turned all of the time-honored & ‘safe’ assumptions on their heads. It is fabulous chess! Today’s EV projection: Obama 386, McCain 152.

Iam…and the military has repeatedly told Obama that there is no careful way to pull out all of our troops in 16 months and that trying to do so is dangerous for both our troops and allies in the region and is bound to get our killed.

894th out of 899 middies — pure genius.
plus a temper and a rumored drinking problem with a drug-addled second wife.
and he’d be pushing 80 at the end of his first term.
Middie McCain More Moron than Maverick
http://www.236.com/blog/w/alec_sokolow/middie_mccain_more_moron_than_5544.php
don’t elect the intelligent guy, he has brown skin.

You are a middle aged male with a wife, 3 kids, a dog, a mortgage and a car payment…Do you want your 80 year old senile grandfather managing your finances??? NO…
You are a small business owner with all the problems of running a small business in this day and age..Will you hire an 80 year old senile manager to run the business?? NO…
You are a multi-national company with billions of dollars at stake..Will you hire a senile 80 year old CEO to run the company??? NO..
Why would America hire a senile 80 year old man to be President and attempt to run the country???? NO..Not today, Not tomorrow and NOT in November..

Repubsout:
Thank you for your logic and insight. It is so refreshing.

over time obama has been on top of the game.what do people want to see to know this guy is way ahead.in 21st century america we need progressives.see what is happenning now how bush n mccain are living his script.it only shows he’s advanced on foreign issues wether you want to belive or not.a young senetor who realy taking time to study this issues not someone who only gets the accolades by being old.all you need is good judgement n obama has it.america we need ths guy.thanks 4 ur support

Don’t give McCain too hard of a hard time. He is finally saying the right thing on Afghanistan – put more soldiers into the fight to beat down Al Queda and Bin Laden where they really exist.
He’s finally listening to Senator Obama who has been saying that for years.
It is funny, though, how McCain tried to one-up Obama. You know, Obama says to add 2 combat brigades, so I’ll say add 3 brigades.
The question, John, is where do you plan to find those American combat soldiers, since you plan to tie our soldiers down in Iraq for 50 or 100 years.
And how does that all square with the plans you and Bush have for another war against Iran?
This is the real world Senator McCain – not Fantasy Land.

Obama has already stated he will leave 80,000 troops in Iraq…..you people need to stop drooling over him and listen!!
Listen to his 7/2/08 speech…he wants a national secret police force..
Listen to his 1/27/08 speech, he wants to disarm this country

Barack Obama wins in November, independent voters will decide this election and McCain and Bush now are basically following Obama’s approach.
Regardless of what a few right-wing nuts say on the internet most independent voters will take an objective look at the judgement of the two candidate and Obama clearly wins.

This is a ridiculous subject. Recently things have changed on the ground. In 2007 when the Obama disciples are quoting MCCain, things were much different. You need to come to the light… MCCAIN 08

WE AMERICANS ARE PROUD OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN ANSWERING THE WRONG CALL BY A THOUGH EXPERIENCED BUT LESS INTELLIGENT
COMMANDER IN CHIEF BUSH,BACKED BY McCAIN,A BUSH´S LOOK ALIKE AS REGARDS IQ!THE BETTER BUT STILL A RISKY SITUATION IN IRAQ HAS BEEN EFFECTED MOSTLY BY THE WILLINGNESS OF THE IRAQI PEOPLE,NOT SO CALLED SURGE!IT WAS SINCE THE IRAQI LEADER,A SHIA,FORGED A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH ITS NEIGHBOUR IRAN,THAT THE CIRCUIT OF VIOLENCE HAS ALMOST SUCCESSFULLY BEEN BROCKEN!ON ONE SIDE A SHIA RADICAL LEADER THEN SUPPORTED BY IRAN TO DISTABILISE THE AMERICAN INDUCED GOVERNMENT ALSO HEADED BY A SHIA.IT IS THE SAME PEOPLE WITH GOOD KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR OWN NEIBOURHOOD AND TOPORGRAPHY EFFECTIVELY FOUGHT OUT ALQAIDA WHO HAPPENED TO BE THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME FOLLOWING McBUSH´S WAR.AND IF SUPPORTED WITH RESOURCES COULD ALWAYS DO SO EFFECTIVELY ALONE.THIS MEANS A REAL SUCCESS IN IRAQ CAN SUBSTANTIALLY BE MADE BY THE IRAQIS THEMSELVES AND ONLY THEY AND OUR SOLDIERS TRAINING THEM CONVENTIONALLY, CAN TAKE CREDICT FOR SUCCESS.THE SHIA GOVERNMENT LEADER GOT THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT TO PUSH DOWN THE VIOLENCE IN THE COUNTRY ENTIRELY INCLUDING THE KILLING OF AMERICANS BY THE MILITANTS OF AL-SADER (MILITANT LEADER).AFTER ALL IT IS IN INTEREST OF ALL THE MEMBERS OF THIS EQUILATERAL TRIANGLE TO MAINTAIN ITS ANGLES OF 60 DEGREES EACH TO HELP ACHIEVE ITS COMMON GOALS.AMERICAN SOLDIERS HAVE BEEN HELPFUL IN RECONSTRUCTION AND UNIFICATION OF IRAQI FACTIONS INCLUDING THE ASSURANCE OF THE NATIONAL CAKE(OIL)TO ALL INCLUDING KURDS AND SUNIS!OBAMA´S AND THE IRAQI CALL FOR A PULLOUT WITH SOME POTENTIAL LEVEL OF IRAQI´S READINESS TO TAKE OVER WILL BEST SERVE OUR INTEREST AND ENHANCE OUR FOCUS ON BINLADEN AND HIS DISCIPLES IN AFGHANISTAN AS SUGGESTED BY SEN.OBAMA,A MOVE McCAIN STILL FLI-FLOPS ON!

Bottom line – if Bush and the GOP hadn’t started an uncessessary war in Iraq, then we wouldn’t be having these problems in Afghanistan right now. Bush and his Republican lackeys diverted the focus, manpower and funds from the real war against Al Queda in Afghanistan to their fools’ errand in Iraq. And now we’re paying the price. McCain can flip flop all he wants, but the American people know better – and we will reject him and the failed Bush policies that he clings to in November.

Does McCain remember any of his original positions any more? MFlipFlop strikes again.

I don’t know how Obama’s campaign hoodwinks people to believe anything that they want them to believe.
If you look into the details instead of just believing at face value what Obama says, McCain isn’t flip-flopping on anything.
- He was opposed to the Bush Tax Cuts because they weren’t accompanied with Budget Cuts (a very responsible position) and is for extending them because he’s not for tax increases and plans on decreasing the budget himself
-He’s been for increasing forces in Afghanistan for about 2 years, but he didn’t consider it a top priority. Now that the surge is successful and our troop levels can be lowered, he’s for relocating a portion of them to Afghanistan along with U.N. troops, what’s wrong with that?
-Obama has never even been to Afghanistan and i’m not sure about Iraq, what does he know? I’m sure that he’s gotten a lot of experience in his 2 years in the senate and his experience as a Community Organizer in Chicago where he takes too much credit for the work that he did.
-Obama has flip-flopped plenty of times:
-Campaign Finance and refusing public funds… while due to his outstanding fundraising efforts it is politically smart, it goes against the agreement at the beginning of the campaign
-His Hardcore stance on pulling out of Iraq is being “refined” to a more moderate position, now saying he’ll go back in if it’s necessary and adjust his timeframe based on advice from Generals. A better position? Yes, in my opinion, but that’s beside the point.
-From ’04 to now he’s switched his position on the legalization of pot (he was for it in ’04 and now is against it)
-His position on late term abortions has changed to include limitations due to “mental distress”
-He recently changed his position on the Foreign Intelligence Surveilance Act, which he was wholly against. He now voted for the bill which gives immunity to telecom companies that comply with the administration
While McCain has flip flopped on issues, he has a much more developed policy through his decades in service to this country than Obama’s few short years. Obama is just another politician trying to win an election.

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