McCain Camp Continues Unsubstantiated Inconsistent Attacks on Obama Over Germany Trip

Mcain please give it a rest old man what about when Mcain went to canada, mexico and colombia did the obama campaign whine about it for days and days? seems to me mccain is trying to take something positive and make it negetive!! Hes just jealous and desperate instead of harping on obamas trip WHY DOESNT HE START FOCUSING ON WHAT HE IS GONNA DO AS POTUS MCCAIN YOUR GETTING PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The problem is at this point, there doesn’t seem to be a way to establish the facts beyond the various stories.
This much is true: Obama could have visited the wounded troops anyway without the advisor and there would be no story. Bad call on his part.
The post Labor Day campaigns will get uglier. The problem of using a network strategy as Obama has is it is an avalanche model. An avalanche has power, momentum and direction but no intelligence. It is just raw force and can be disrupted easily. All the snow ends up at the bottom of the mountain but precisely where the heaps are is very unpredictable unless charges are set correctly. It appears that his staff knows how to start the avalanche but not how to control it. It appears the McCain camp is beginning to realize that it can.

mccain is trying to spin a negative light on anything he can because he is looking pretty bad right now.
he talks about his strong points being foreign affairs and obama went over sea’s and wiped the floor with mccain.
the only thing people remember about mccain and over sea’s is his crashingly disturbing jokes!!
if you cant do anything right then take the other guy down with you, mccains plan to win?

You get several versions of events also when you catch your teenager in a difficult situation. The story keeps changing until they get the version that seems to work the best. Obama and his handlers are merely demonstrated their immaturity.

The part about wanting to bring the media is decidedly not true. There were never any plans for Obama to “bring media people and cameras.” Never.
says Obama.
Now.
lmao

Seems right out of the Rove playbook, cue-cards and all. It’s a shame that McCain’s past is being sacrificed for his fixation on being the oldest president. He seems to have forgotten what the Cheney/Rove machine did to him in 2000 but politics makes strange bed-fellows. As much as we might like him as a grandfather, he is better off retired to his mansion than being in Wash. After 70, the mind does strange things on us; one guy looked at himself in the mirror and thought he saw Tom Cruise.

The McCain camp is lying on this one and one can only assume they know they are lying. Too bad for McCain it won’t matter. This election is over. Step back from your TRS-80, Senator McCain, it’s over.

When McCain went to visit wounded soliders he did so without the press being there to build up his image. He went there to console them.
Obama cancelled his visit to wounded veterans because the press was not allowed with him.
Yes, I see a differnce

Anyway, McCain is dishonest on this one. It’s amusing to me how people try to nit-pick at Obama. He’s like the young Kobe Bryant in this regard – folk didn’t like him because he wanted to be the best and they interpreted his confidence as arrogance. Folk don’t like Obama because he’s young and “audacious” enough to believe that he can make a difference. They confuse his ambition and passion for arrogance.

McCain is making our wounded heros a campaign issue which is innapropriate… exactly the reason Obama didn’t want to visit there on that instance. He visited other Vet Hosptials on the trip, just not the one in Germany b/c he didnt want it to be percieved as a political event.
Obama has ALWAYS respected our veterans (i.e. his work with Walter Reid Vet Hospital etc.)…
I guess McCain feels its okay to use vets as a political chess piece. And what is McCain saying the point of these atacks are? Obama deosnt value our servicemen? look at his voting record and then look at McCains on things like the new GI bill and Medical assistance for vets etc… Obama looks like a patriot more and more! (b/c he is!)

ivan123,
Thanks for demonstrating the typical “low info voter”. Did you not read the article? McCain’s claim that Obama wanted press to cover the visit is FALSE. FALSE.
Obama visited wounded troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, Walter Reed, etc. many times with NO PRESS and NO FANFARE.
Stop repeating McCain’s lies.

I am a lifelong military person and no matter what the reason his snub of our troops has cost him my vote.

hey george.. if your a lifelong military person and dont feel Obama is looking out for your interests that is a shame because he cares about you and shows it in his actions… like passing bills to get you more support, medicine, and benefits! (McCain does not)
and you dont care what the reason is? sounds like you already made up your mind months ago and now you feel you have a reason to give to people for voting for McCain.. and what a silly unfortunate reason too…

Obama’s behavior is shameful, he thinks he can snub the troops and then lie about it.
He’s campaign motto should be:”No cameras, No Obama!”

Young doesn’t necessarily mean better.

McCain is SO dishonest, so NOT the “maverick” he may have been 8 years ago.
For a guy who supposedly supports the troops, why does McCain keep voting AGAINST G.I. bills? Tell ya what, McSame, instead of touring VA hospitals like some aging starlet, how about spending that time in Congress voting FOR a G.I. bill for a change? Like Obama did. I’m sure the troops would prefer that to a photo-op handshake from you.
That is, if you REALLY “support our troops.” Or is that just – gasp – pretty rhetoric?

Jake is right. McCain is dishonest on this one.

Maverick? what Maverick? McCain is sly like a fox. You only need to look a little deeper to see an individual who will readily sacrifice principles for his own objectives.
He seems to be very comfortable with lying and deception much like George Bush.

I think I know why the McCain campaign is tripping over themselves to try and capitalize on every perceived gaffe. I think they realize that McCain hasn’t exceeded 45% in any poll i’ve seen since the primary ended. McCain’s campaign has realized that he has ceiling of 45% and Obama has a ceiling of 51% ( the highest Ive seen him at since the end of the primary) thats why theyre freaking out. Thats why they can’t go three days sraight with one over riding theme. Thats why they are wasting money on stupid attack adds that make them look dumb. Thats why they are launching and scrapping attack websites in the same week. The wheels are coming off and its only July. This is amazing!!! We are witnessing the collapse of a candidate before our very eyes. Its gotta be sickning to Republicans that their candidate isn’t really ready for primetime. They should announce a new VP pick every week from now to election day. They really have no other option. What can he do give another speech….God Forbid!!!

Obama achieved just what he sat out to achieved. He spoke to all the leaders and got a good feel on how they would like to see things change. Then, he not only visited with and spoke to several of our troops but also to the leaders of those troops and listened and answered questions from them. You people are fools if you think for one minute McCain is better in judgement, and leadership then Obama.

Waleeg Hussein, I guess you haven’t seen the latest USA Today/Gallup poll which shows McCain ahead 49-45.

And here I thought McCain wanted to run an honorable campaign. He should be questioned about that.

pro saddam Obama tied to Iraqi government fraud?
Hundreds of millions in deals with candidate’s associates
Posted: July 30, 2008
1:00 am Eastern
By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com
Antoin “Tony” Rezko
JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama’s office engaged in six months of negotiations with a company controlled by convicted criminal Tony Rezko to lobby the U.S. government to push through a nixed $50 million contact to train Iraqi security personnel at a site in Chicago.

moe.ron
right on! obama cancelled his trip to see wounded soldiers because he didn’t want it to be misconstrued as policital. period. now, mccain is politicizing the event, and in doing so, is belittling and using these wounded soldiers for his own means as a tactic. that’s cheap and pathetic.

Just wondering why there is always a re-hash of what Obama has said??? He says something like I would meet with anyone without any conditions. Then he says that’s not what I meant or said when it was?

Just wondering why there is always a re-hash of what Obamma has said??? He says something like I would meet with anyone without any conditions. Then he says that’s not what I meant or said when it was?
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Clearly, McCain is the perfect candidate for you. He keeps things simple for idiots who are unable to comprehend complex, geopolitical issues. Obama never backtracked on meeeting with that nut in Iran, he just explained his reasoning…then again, reasoning is lost on you, isn’t it?

McCain was jsut trying to point out that the wounded troops would much rather have met Obama than McCain himself, since McCain supported the Bush plan that got them needlessly injured.

Go, Johnny, Go! Tell it like it is! No photo-op, no visit! Obama only cares about himself. I think he has outwitted himself on this one – it will back-fire on him as those who love the troops will not forget this snub. There is no way to explain it. He and his campaign are falling over themselves trying to explain why he did not go. The story keeps changing ….. his flip-flop is showing again!

The “entourage” description is fair enough. Obama has been less than forthcoming about his reasons for canceling.
The idea that Gration not being allowed to go and therefore the trip would be seen (by someone) as political is preposterous. There is nothing about Gration not going that could change the perception of the trip in the public’s eyes. In fact, Obama going in alone would be the least political, most noble thing of all.
I understand that Obama was not planning on bringing the media entourage, but Gibbs told reporters they had not ruled out a pool report. So they hadn’t closed the door to some sort of media coverage, and it’s hard to know what they had asked for or planned in that regard.

Now, now…The more I read and see the GOP tactics the more I realise that the Country is in the state it is in because this guys are just plain evil liers. In the two terms Bush has been in office the people have wisened up! Its not the same old, same old! How come the lies for the war have not been visited from Mclellans book. GOP is evil. America does not need another dose of that.

I believe Obama shot some hoops with the troops…how come there is sooo much dwelling on the cancelled visit and no applause for other good things Obama did. I guess if it is ‘bad’ the GOP LIKES IT. And so it is easy to see why the country is in bad shape. NOTHING GOOD COMES OUT OF THE GOP!

Why aren’t the Feds looking at the $300,000 gift from criminal political, government contractor Tony Rezko to the Obamas? He did not list this as gift or pay taxes on it. He now knows it was wrong–bone-headed, he calls it.

This just points out what we know to be true – Obama thinks he can manipulate and control the media. It never occurred to him that his initial story would be questioned. What a dangerous ego!

As Chairman Of The Subcommittee With NATO Oversight, Obama Has Failed To Hold Any Hearings On Afghanistan:
Hillary brought this up at one of the many debates and Obama’s answer was “he was to busy running for president.”
Obama is a politian, so if you shake his hand make sure you count your fingers afterwards.

There’s another “fact” that deserves some “vetting” from that McSlime ad. How on earth does he get away with claiming he’s “always been there for our troops” when he:
1) Opposed Senator Webb’s GI Bill and then didn’t even bother to show up for the vote, and,
2) received a “D” rating as opposed to the “B+” given to Senator Obama in 2006 from the The Iraq and Afghan Veterans of America for “supporting our troops.”
This guy’s lies, distortions, and flip flops are piling up so deep that we’re going to need snow plows to get through them by November.

If this is an indication of Mr. Teflon’s preparation, I must say that this country would be among the last to know of whatever he drags us into…….hope he hops off the World Citizen crap soon ( said it again in Washington….just so the media folks know). Does he know the gravity of the problems we have in THIS country….we can no longer shore up the world while we go broke…….forget being World Citizen, Obie…if you get in, you got enuff to do here…..what were we supposed to get out of your trip….that u r FDR? I don’t think so…again, to the media: stories suggesting that the big German crowd was there…at least, partially…for reasons other than the appearance of the rock star…..like beer tents all over…and, indeed, an outdoor concert…and the World Order speech by the Dude? Somebody dig into that, ABC.NBC. Fox, CNN….Der Spiegel…..will some 4th estater do something besides spilling just what is on his/her mind? It’s like looking/reading the news in 60 seconds or less.

Well, well, another “low info” voter.
Mary, the “playing basketball with the troops” was during the CODEL (Congressional Delegation) part of the trip (to Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan…)
The trip to Germany was during the campaign-funded part of the trip. THAT’s the difference. Do try to keep up.
Mary wrote:
“Senator Obama playing basketball with the troops was not POLITICAL but visiting wounded troop would have been. That is a fake excuse.”

Hey Time, McCain is on the Armed Services Committee and has missed every single meeting on Afghanistan over the last two years. I can only assume that’s because he’s been busy running for president.

It is obvious that if you are pro-Obama you think McCain is lying, if you are pro-McCain, you think Obama is lying. Half of these posts are knee-jerk thoughtless reactions. The fact of the matter is that Obama could have gone to see the troops and then made several lame excuses to cover up why he didn’t, including blaming the Pentagon. This is how I, as an independent who has voted both Dem & Rep in the past 6 elections, sees it. I do not think McCain is lying or being dishonest about it – he has always supported the troops. I would say the same think he is – the whole thing smells fishy and he’s calling Obama on it. That’s good politics. The only reason Obama doesn’t have to stoop to that level is that the media does his dirty work for him. If Obama did not also have the flag pin incident and the Michelle Obama proud for the first time incident people might believe him. Also, there are other things about this trip that are suspicious. The speech in Germany where 200,000 young people showed up – that was advertised as a free concert – Obama spoke before the bands came out. Of course no one mentioned that on the major networks. As always my presidential vote will be for the lesser of two evils, this election year that is McCain.

Well, well, another “low info” voter.
Mary, the “playing basketball with the troops” was during the CODEL (Congressional Delegation) part of the trip (to Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan…)
The trip to Germany was during the campaign-funded part of the trip. THAT’s the difference. Do try to keep up.
SO WHY WAS OBAMA PLAYING BASKETBALL INSTEAD OF WORKING?

Why are the troops in the hospital in the first place. They are in there as a result of being patriotic and fighting for their country. Now, the GOP used such conviction and sense of duty. BUT, it was a lie to got to war in Iraq. GOP EVIL AGAIN.

Look at how pathetic some of you are — you’re basing your votes on the fact that Obama visited some wounded troops and chose not to visit others when he thought it would be seen as political. And if your main concern this time around is who wears a flag pin where, you deserve exactly what a McCain presidency will do this country.

Strange how in all this we totally ignored the fact that McCain cancelled a visit to the troops stateside in April for exactly the same reason… he was told by the Pentagon it would be a political visit.
Guess sauce for the goose isn’t sauce for the gander… I wonder why

Whenever I hear McCain all I hear is “drilling” or “Obama” Does the man have any ideas on how he would run the White House? McCain is an old man wanting to be president. He would be a diaster for this country!

Obama is a fraud. He could have left General What’s-His-Name behind and visited the troops. It’s as simple as that. Fraud. Liar. Lightweight. Nobama ’08.

SO WHY WAS OBAMA PLAYING BASKETBALL INSTEAD OF WORKING?
Posted by: geevill | Jul 30, 2008 3:03:03 PM
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A little R&R with the troops. Keep morals up and the like.
Do try to pay attention or leave the talk to the grown ups.

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Over at the Atlantic, Marc Ambinder has an interesting reaction from former McCain strategist John Weaver to the Arizona Republican’s new ad attacking Barack Obama’s celebrity status (complete with references to Paris Hilton and Britney Spears). Calling it “childish,” Weaver also claims that harping on Obama “reduces McCain on the stage”.

Let’s just have a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing to get all the facts. Please Senator Levin, I want you to call under oath General Gration and Senator Obama, and throw in a few wounded amputees as well. Lets say an October date?