By Jaketapper

Jul 22, 2008 1:03am

McCain Hits Obama for Lack of Military Experience

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., Monday hit Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, not for only being, in his view, wrong on the surge of troops in Iraq, but also for not having served in the military.

Arguing that he, unlike Obama, doesn’t "need any on-the-job training," McCain said, per ABC News’ Jen Duck, that "I also agree with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who said it would be very dangerous…to do what Senator Obama has advocated."

Added the former Navy flier and Vietnam P.O.W.: "I hope we’ll pay attention to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Particularly someone that has no military experience whatsoever."

McCain was referring to comments made Sunday by Admiral Mike Mullen on Fox News Sunday. "I think the consequences could be very dangerous in that regard," Mullen said when asked about a hypothetical withdrawal plan like the one Obama is advocating. "I’m convinced at this point in time that making reductions based on conditions on the ground are very important." Mullen made similar comments earlier this year.

In May, after Obama criticized McCain’s position on a G.I. bill, McCain said in a statement that that he "will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did."

McCain’s staff was quick to argue at the time that he wasn’t assailing Obama for not having served, but for having questioned McCain’s commitment to troops when McCain had served and Obama hadn’t.

McCain’s new argument — that "someone that has no military experience whatsoever" needs to listed to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs — goes even further.

- jpt

User Comments

It is interesting that McCain was what looks like correct on Iraq and Obama was probably wrong in terms of the side of history. They both seem to be wrong on immigration. We have what amounts to a “Grapes of Wrath” situation and no one is raising a finger to help. The salmonela tomato flap, now peppers, is probably the result of very sick people working in the fields and defecating on the crops. Both wrong not to help.

Posted by: disambiguates | July 22, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

Isn’t the uniformed military supposed to stay out of politics? What gives with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs picking sides in a campaign dispute?

Posted by: southpaw | July 22, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

I think McCain’s war experience makes him highly likely to have PTSD and unfit to serve.
I suppose McCain is implying that Lincoln and Roosevelt were unfit to be President.
The only President’s who had war experience that made them more fit to serve were Eisenhower and Washington.

Posted by: Last Call | July 22, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

While military experience isn’t critical to being President, some understanding of how the military works would be helpful. I won’t fault Obama for not having served, but he does need to come into contact with the clue bat in this regard.

Posted by: Buford Gooch | July 22, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

According to the reporting above, Admiral Mullen said withdrawal “could” be dangerous, not that it “would” be dangerous.
The last thing America needs is another lying propagandist, such as McCain, who is willing to lie and spin very important statements pertaining to national security.

Posted by: Danny | July 22, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

The admiral said “could” instead of wood precisely because he is trying to stay out of the political fray. He, and the rest of the military, know that it would be an unmitigated disaster to withdraw from Iraq on any basis other than conditions on the ground.

Posted by: Buford Gooch | July 22, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

Obama has no experience of any kind. Americans on election day will not pull the lever for him. It’s just too risky.

Posted by: Jo | July 22, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

Many people who didn’t serve will be needlessly offended. He has less money than Obama, no base support, less media coverage, and he’s 71 years old. Add to that the damaged Republican brand and thoughtless comments like this and you have to wonder how he stays so close in the polls.

Posted by: Independent | July 22, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

McCain is now tealing Hillary’s words about on-the-job training. McCain, didn’t you see wher it got her? Right now McCain is trying his best to show up himself as a good Commander-in-Chief, but he just doesn’t have what it takes. John McCain is too much blustering, too much same old, same old wave of the hand, brushing off that will not advance his cause.
I have my own conspiracy theory about what is going on right now regarding the apparent shift in the Bush Administration towards Obama’s international policy recommendations, but for now, I’d like to say, it is working and that’s OK! Is President Bush trying to increase his approval rating on Obama’s coat tail before leaving office? Is the Scretary of State using her powerful position? You go girl! John mcCain should realise that the current White Hose Staff from Top to Bottom does not want him to replace Pres. Bush, because it would be another four years of pure chaos for the country.
The world, and apparently, even the White House – can see that Obama is the right President for America at this time in its unfolding history. Perhaps there is a measure of myopia in some pockets of the country – GET OVER IT!
John McCain is already history He is an old man, a warrior, a war monger who talks tough, shakes his gun and drops off to sleep. Yet he wants to commit America to 100 years in Iraq. Who is listening and believing and liking what he touts like an old LP record stuck in a groove.

Posted by: exatlantic | July 22, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

But, but, but the Obama wore some sunglasses in a helicopter and flew with a general (who the Obama has treated disrespectfully in the past).
Truthfully, though, the Obama has about as much military experience as the “W” did.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | July 22, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am

Obama was right in Iraq. We should not have gone.
Now the Iraqi government is siding with Obama for the troops to get out of Iraq just as Obama said.
Will we go or will we stay by force?
Only Obama has the mental and strategic capacity to make a decision like this.
If we want to be respected, we need to respect. Republicans want to decide the destiny of Iraq but Iraq has the right to decide its own destiny.
How much would we like someone telling us how to govern our country?
We need an educated president not another ignorant.
We need Obama.

Posted by: Andy | July 22, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am

I think McCain is right. There will be mass genocide if we leave, all the shias’ will run back & forth to Iran to try and cut off the oil supply in the persian gulf. We will have a much larger war on our hands then. We are doing our job with our allies & Gods grace in Afghanistan. We just sent more marines over there in case you Obamaheads weren’t Listening. We will get the job done, and if we listen to Obama, we’re in for a much bigger war.Also, for those of you that remember Vietnam? Stark images are still in my head,and that’s what will happen if we leave too soon.

Posted by: Beth Lunsford | July 22, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am

What gives this man the right to stand up like he’s a President already?
Obama doesn’t know what the heck is going on over there.
He’s an embarrassment.
He can’t act like a commander in chief.
Pretty cocky of him.

Posted by: Rick from Pa | July 22, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am

Obama is embarrassing:
Who wants to stand up for him and his supporters:
Farrakhan-Anti Semitic radical racist
Reverend Wright-anti American, racist
Tony Rezko: Criminal Syrian Politician
William Ayers: Domestic Terrorist
Father Plaeger: Anti American
Obama is a disgrace to the Democratic party, the US and to the World.
He’s embarrassing.

Posted by: Al from NJ | July 22, 2008, 5:08 am 5:08 am

Sounds like a desperate man…..

Posted by: Kojo | July 22, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am

It’s extremely funny how McCain and the Repubs have painted themselfes into a corner: “the Surge was correct and worked”, they yell. Everybody with more insight in what has been going on knows that the surge only worked to lower the level of violence through bribing the shia militias and the sunni tribal men to the tune of $300 a month per person. Every expert also knows that the source for violence in Iraq has not been erradicated. Both sides are now heavily armed, paid for by american dollars. Iraq has become an even more dangerous powder keg, ready to explode any minute.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | July 22, 2008, 7:20 am 7:20 am

Someone please tell McCain that having military experience and serving in the military IS NOT a requirement to being President of the United States. If it were, Bill Clinton would have never been elected or reelected.
When I think about McCain’s service: Graduated near the bottom of his class; poor performance; crashed his plane more than once, captured in Vietnam and made any statement asked to make by his captives – McCain’s military experience doesn’t amount to very much. If those were my credentials, I’d be ashamed of them!
McCain is a decrepit old fool.
Mentally Unstable, Senility has set in.
Doesn’t know Iraq from Afghanistan.
Says Iraq & Pakistan share a border.
Pathetic, Shameful McCain.

Posted by: Debbie, Columbia, SC | July 22, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

All that McCain has against Obama is tht he did not serve in the military. WOW that is too funny…I didn’t see McCain “in the trenches” in the projects, trying to get health care and fair housing for this poor people of this country. I see Cindy Mccain doing charity work OUTSIDE this country. What about the poor and desperate people right here in the US.

Posted by: truthtell | July 22, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am

Al from NJ and Rick from Pa, one and the same person.Do you really want to
know who wants to stand up for Obama and his supporters? I’ll tell you: America and the rest of the world.
I know that you just cannot stomach the fact that the man looks like a Commander-in-Chief, acts like Commander-in-Chief and WILL BE Commander-in-Chief, but GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Who in their right minds want to stand up for old man John McCain? Who can’t even tie his sho laces far less pick up a phone at 3.00 a.m.
GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!
Obama is just right for America and the rest of the world

Posted by: exatlantic | July 22, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

McCain has no plan. He seems to think playing it by ear is a plan. McCain offers no solutions with a plan for the war or for our economy. Like a typical politician McCain makes promises without substance and his promises change on a daily basis. McCain’s entire campaign is based on trashing Sen. Obama and he gets more and more desperate everyday. McCain is now moving into the kitchen sink strategy. That strategy worked the last two Presidential elections….but not this time, not this year.
Obama ’08

Posted by: Liz in Texas | July 22, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am

Independent, you wrote: “…you have to wonder how he (Sen. McCain) stays so close in the polls.” That is interesting, isn’t it?
Sen. Messiah vs. Sen. Old, old man!
Sen. Articulate vs. Sen. Bumbler!
Sen. Charming and charismatic vs Sen. Boring!
Sen. Leave Iraq within 16 months vs. Sen. Stay in Iraq until we achieve victory
Sen. Tax the wealthy and add new entitlements vs. Sen. Make the 2001 & 2003 tax cuts permanent and end earmarks!
Sen. No increase in supply of domestic oil vs. Sen. Drill here, drill now!
Sen. For nuclear energy IF safe & clean vs. Sen. Build 45 nuclear reactors by 2030!
Sen. For late term abortions vs Sen. Pro-Life
Sen. 3 1/2 years in Congress vs Sen. 25 1/2 years in Congress!

Posted by: James Danley | July 22, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

“I don’t know much about finance…”
-John McCain

Posted by: Bette | July 22, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

In justifying his position in Iraq, McCain said on the Today show yesterday that there is a very dangerous situation on the Iraq-Pakistan border. Someone should have told him the Iraq border is 750 miles from the Pakistan border. Brain #### I guess. Or maybe just old age.

Posted by: rhbate | July 22, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Rhbate, and yet yesterday’s Rasmussen three-day poll has Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain tied 46-46. Go figure!

Posted by: James Danley | July 22, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

Politico writes: “Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) said ‘Iraq’ when he apparently meant ‘Afghanistan’ on Monday, adding to a string of mixed-up word choices that is giving ammunition to the opposition. Just in the past three weeks, McCain has also mistaken ‘Somalia’ for ‘Sudan,’ and even football’s Green Bay Packers for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ironically, the errors have been concentrated in what should be his area of expertise — foreign affairs.”

Posted by: rhbate | July 22, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

rhbate – Interesting, have you ever ran for office, you will mistakes names of groups and countries.
Notice you do not bring up Obama, not even remembering what he says, since he says different thins every day, the fact that Obama says the political situation in Iraq allowed the surge to succeed, when it was the surge that allowed Political process. or that Obama does not even know he was born 4 years before Selma,
Obama with a different opinion for different people!!
Now McCain is absolutely correct, Obama has no experience whats over, 2 day in the senate does not count!!

Posted by: spock | July 22, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

I hate to do this but what is McCain famous for? Being captured by the enemy.Right and this makes him qualified to run our country.This makes a whole lot of sense.

Posted by: TV | July 22, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

McCain lost the Vietnam war.
He will lose the Iraq war. He
doesn’t win because he’s persistent
and obstinate in doing what is
wrong.
What military experience is the
geriatric talking about?

Posted by: anon | July 22, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

“and even football’s Green Bay Packers for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ironically, the errors have been concentrated in what should be his area of expertise — foreign affairs.”
FOOTBALL… IS ASSOCIATED WITH FOREIGN AFFAIRS?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: hmmmmm | July 22, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

I’m sorry I don’t see how just serving in the military makes one more experienced when it comes to foreign policy unless you were pretty high up there in service and were apart of the decision making.

Posted by: truvy | July 22, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

truthtell:
I didn’t see Obama “in the trenches” in the projects, trying to get health care and fair housing for the poor people of this country, either!
His universal health care plan was the poorest of ALL the candidates, leaving more than 15,000,000 people uncovered.
He took money from Rezko which had kept by him to heat the denizens of his broken down tenements.
As for fair housing…. the developments begun under his watch… are STILL UNFINISHED NINE YEARS LATER!!!!
And the only time “trenches” and “obama’ co-existed side by side was during a recent photo-op when he was sort of filling in a trench with a single sand bag.
Which is why I say:
HILLARY OR MCCAIN
but always:
COUNTRY BEFORE BROKEN DOWN DONKEY PARTY!

Posted by: hmmmmm | July 22, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

” think McCain’s war experience makes him highly likely to have PTSD and unfit to serve.
The implication here is that any man or woman who has served in the military and wishes to run for President… should immediately become suspect in our eyes and have his run fore election prejudicially quashed!!!
HEY ALL YOU HEROES AND PLAIN OLD EVERY DAY SOLDIERS AND SAILORS?
HAVE YOU GOTTEN THE MESSAGE!!!!!
READ ABOUT IT HERE FIRST.
COME GET YOUR DAIL PUNCH,
compliments of B O’s bloggers!

Posted by: hmmmmm | July 22, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

” think McCain’s war experience makes him highly likely to have PTSD and unfit to serve.”
quoted from “last call”.
—-
The implication here is that any man or woman who has served in the military and wishes to run for President… should immediately become suspect in our eyes and have his run fore election prejudicially quashed!!!
HEY ALL YOU HEROES AND PLAIN OLD EVERY DAY SOLDIERS AND SAILORS?
HAVE YOU GOTTEN THE MESSAGE!!!!!
READ ABOUT IT HERE FIRST.
COME GET YOUR DAILY PUNCH,
compliments of B O’s bloggers!
Posted by: hmmmmm | Jul 22, 2008 2:01:16 PM
(amended )

Posted by: hmmmmm | July 22, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

” think McCain’s war experience makes him highly likely to have PTSD and unfit to serve.”
quoted from “last call”.
—-
The implication here is that any man or woman who has served in the military and wishes to run for President… should immediately become suspect in our eyes and have his run fore election prejudicially quashed!!!
HEY ALL YOU HEROES AND PLAIN OLD EVERY DAY SOLDIERS AND SAILORS?
HAVE YOU GOTTEN THE MESSAGE!!!!!
READ ABOUT IT HERE FIRST.
COME GET YOUR DAILY PUNCH,
compliments of B O’s bloggers!
Posted by: hmmmmm | Jul 22, 2008 2:01:16 PM
(amended )

Posted by: hmmmmm | July 22, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Going to war or being in the Armed Forces does not make you less qualified to become President. There is plenty of people that have never gone to war and know so much about it. This is just another thing that McCain is doing to make Obama look bad but I doubt its working.

Posted by: Alex C.(MCOMM 100) | July 22, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

MCCain temper is getting the best of him-He is know to be nasty-so now he ‘s blasting OBAMA for stealing his thunder. WHat else can he do. He can’t stop Obama but he can throw a temper tantrum-He knows he has nothing to offer for Iraq but the same Bush policy–He is desperate. His campaign told him to throw get nasty. You see he was with the ex president Bush the other day-anything to get some press coverage away from Obama-(it did not work).

Posted by: lowes4321 | July 22, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Sen. Obama was a child during the Vietnam War. And thanks to some very good Republican and Democratic Presidents, there wasn’t a need to join to fight a war, let alone a war against a faceless enemy. Many of us blacks in our generation joined the military when we didn’t have other options, such as college. There was no reason for anyone to run to join the military, just to say they served. McCain follwed he father’s footsteps in to the military. He didn’t join to one day run for president, as futile as his run is. It takes as real big was hero to put down a man who worked to pay his own way through Harvard. He didn’t have a distinguished Flag Officer to pay for his education. Tell you what, produce the Weapons of Mass Destruction and I will petition the military to allow me to return to duty at 44. further, I prefer President Obama, who has not served, than John McCain, POW, whom you probably could tell anything, and probably won’t listen to the Generals because they have not been shot down, and were not prisoners of war.

Posted by: Where's the WMD? | July 22, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

This just in. McCain hits Abraham Lincoln for his lack of military experience. Saying this unschooled inexperienced politician from Illinois gives a good speach but could never lead the country.

Posted by: janoman | July 22, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

McCain questions Obama’s lack of service

ABC’s Jake Tapper reports that John McCain is questioning Barack Obama’s judgment because he didn’t serve in the military. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., Monday hit Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, not for only being, in his view, wrong on the surge

Posted by: Brendan Nyhan | July 22, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Just because you served in the
military does not make you a
great military thinker or a
winning war strategist.
There are scientists who
may not be trained for
spaceflight but who know
more about the moon than the
astronauts who actually went
there.

Posted by: anon | July 23, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

Obama will be the best president we have ever had.

Posted by: rhbate | July 23, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

McCain’s five years as a pow, while commendable, doesn’t make him a military genius. There was another pilot that was a pow for around six years and makes no such claims. The rest of the time McCain was a low level officer not in command. But what it SHOULD have taught him was to hate torturing prisoners.
He has also flip-floped and tap-danced around some important issues. He used to dislike lobbyists but now he can’t get enough of them, he doesn’t know about the economy and he wants to continue GWB’s policies.
You can respect the man for getting through Vietnam but not for getting his cue cards from the Bush/Cheney machine to try to make it in Nov. especially after what they did to him in 2000.

Posted by: all | July 23, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

Sen. McCain said today: “I am going to campaign in all thirteen colonies. My campaign will employ all the latest technology: the telegraph; the carrier pigeon as well as the pony express. John Adams showed me how to use all this new-fangled stuff – we were best buds.”

Posted by: rhbate | July 23, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

McCain’s five years as a pow, while commendable, doesn’t make him a military genius. There was another pilot that was a pow for around six years and makes no such claims. The rest of the time McCain was a low level officer not in command. But what it SHOULD have taught him was to hate torturing prisoners.
He has also flip-floped and tap-danced around some important issues. He used to dislike lobbyists but now he can’t get enough of them, he doesn’t know about the economy and he wants to continue GWB’s policies.
You can respect the man for getting through Vietnam but not for getting his cue cards from the Bush/Cheney machine to try to make it in Nov. especially after what they did to him in 2000.

Posted by: all | July 23, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

It must be frustrating for John McCain.
He was rejected by Nancy Reagan for dumping the wife who stood by him during his years of captivity in favor of a younger, richer model. He was rejected by his party for a younger man with a more famous name when he ran for President in 2000, despite his was record compared to the highly questionable record of the younger Bush.
By the time he finally gets Mrs. Reagan and his party back, he finds himself trailing a man who has no military record at all. No wonder he is viciously stiking out at Obama. He does not think we are a nation of whiners.
He thinks we are ingrates.

Posted by: Ricky | July 23, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

The President and Commander in Chief throughout the bloodiest war in our nation’s history also had no military experience…Abe Lincoln. He saved our country. And he fired “commanders on the ground” in order to get the job done.

Posted by: Ricky | July 23, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

McCain spent more of the viet nam war behing bars as a POW than in actual combat. Yet he’s critical of Obama about lacking military experience? That doen’t quite pass the logic test.

Posted by: CC | July 23, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am

OBAMA LACKS EXPERIENCE AND JUDGEMENT
Why didn’t Obama, who chaired the senate committee on Afghanistan, call a single meeting on Afghanistan? He keeps wearing out the importance of his vote to not invade Iraq over 4 years ago, but that’s 20/20 hindsight, because based on intelligence at the time, it made sense to invade Iraq … that’s why so many of his fellow democrats voted for it. Obama is a monday morning quarterback. Why did he vote present 100 times in the senate? After his misstatements his spokespeople are always having to clarify what he really meant. Being a community organizer … gaining a seat in the state legislature by eliminating the competition on technicalities, instead of votes … gaining a seat in the senate due to Senator Jack Ryan vacating his seat due to scandal … barely getting the democratic nomination with less popular votes than Hillary, and without counting Florida and Michigan … etc.. What are this guy’s qualifications to be President of the United States other than outspending his opponents on ads, and getting unfair coverage from a bias media. Be an intelligent responsible American, elect Senator John McCain for President in November ’08

Posted by: Howard | July 28, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

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