McCain: Obama More Worried About ’08 Campaign Than Losing a War

OBAMA is being propped up!!! I question the media’s relationship with Obama, BIG TIME. He is a liar and a phony (period).

Thats a FLIP-FLOP. report it as one. If it was Obama, it would have been all over the news. Mccain supports anything that polls well.

McCain supporters today are saying we MAY be able to pull out sometime in 2012 or 2013. Five or six YEARS! How much will that cost???

Obama has had the stated the same Iraq policy since Nov 2006. The McCain camp is so desperate now, they just make up stuff as they go along!!
They try to create these fake controversies in hopes that the media plays along. Hopefully by now the media is catching on to what many Dems already knew: McCain campaign is spinning out of control!!!

lol
mccain is so pathetic, and all you repubs know it too
obama is looking like a president right now
and mccain is looking like a babbling senior

McSame, said that 100 years in Irak is good and that the withdraw of troops is not a priority. But if McSame wants Irak as a future friend and ally of the US, then the occupation has to end, you do not continue to occupy a friend and that is what Obama is about, he can build a good relationship with Irak and keep that country as a very close ally in the future. Boots diplomacy and cowboy talks will not make it, McSame has to know about that. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

Does anyone remember at the start of this process when McCain said he was going to run a clean campaign? Day in and day out Obama treats McCain with respect, and in turn the McCain camp attacks Obama endlessly.
Peace

Oh golfgirl…c’mon. . .I think the American people have figured out that the current crop of Republicans are the real “phonies” out there. Isn’t it bad enough that conservatives love America sooooo much that they have to engage in outright lies and deception to get support from the American people?
And yet the GOP trots out the very same candidate they threw under the bus eight years ago – in favor of George W. Bush – and expects us to trust them that they can make a good decision THIS time.
No thanks. You had your chance, and the American people are paying heavily for that mistake.

Talk about “inexperienced”. . .the media hauls out wingnut/dominionist Heather Wilson as if that moron possesses an objective brain cell in her head?
I can’t imagine what Heather Wilson has ever done to give her “experience” in identifying the needs of the presidency. Last I read, she is going to be struggling to hold onto her own congressional seat this year.

McCain said we can withdraw in as soon as 2 years.
McCain said it has to be conditions based of the iraqis taking over.
Obama wants to run out without turning it over to the iraqis.–Steve
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What are you talking about? McCain said he could imagine most U.S. troops home by 2013. I think he’s unsure what his position is now. Both sides are talking about a timetable or a “time horizon,” as the Bush Administration is now calling it, so McCain isn’t sure where he stands anymore. He supported establishing permanent bases in Iraq–as did President Bush. He also thought it was a great idea to invade the country. That demonstrated good judgment, didn’t it? Obama has never talked about withdrawing troops without evaluating conditions on the ground. He wants to have the country run by Iraqis–it’s their country, isn’t it?

Heather Wilson lost her primary this year and will be leaving office at the end of her term.

McCain is more worried about election than bankrupting us and ruining any credibility on the world stage that we may have left.

McCain has got to be the worst presidential candidate in over twenty years.

Wait, losing what war? Iraq? We won remember? MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. We even put Saddam’s neck in a noose. A real victory will be getting our men and women back home.

The surge was a great success. The results are almost 1,000 more dead American troops and another several hundred billion more $$$$. That’s all. With successes like this, we truly need Democrats in charge to “lose” more wars.

The GOP doesn’t know the meaning of CLEAN. All they know is how to play dirty and hide behind their so called religious moral values; that is their brand. Sure abortion is against the law of God but so are 1. LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE 2. LEADING A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT 3. GREED OVER FOREIGN OIL.I just hope and pray the majority of Americans are tired of it!!!! and see them for what they really are HYPOCRITS!!! All McCain talks about is winning and losing the war but NEVER NEVER defines winning. Maybe because their is no winining when it comes to Terrorism because there will all ways be Terrorist in this world, especially from places like the middle east.

~ The GOP’s hands are dripping with the Blood of our young soldiers” I guess one dead Son a day is a Success?? It is if your a Bloody war monger like McCain!!! If he gets Elected there surely is no God………

McCain can try to slam Obama all he wants. The fact is that McCain has reversed course on his convictions and adopted Bush’s policies because he can’t figure out any other stategy that will win for him. He is engaged in a sisyphian task, however, because no matter how you paint it McCain wants to stick with the old and Americans have had enough and are going to go for the new, and that means Obama. McCain may have bucked his party on some things in the past, but now that he’s lost in trying to figure out a winning strategy, he’s clinging to his security blanket of the neocons and far right and it’s just not going to work. George Bush has f-cked McCain in every way he can.

okay which candidate never mentions his push to go into the war?
which candidate never says the war was a mistake?
which candidate never mentions that this surge cost us 200,000,000,000 dollars and we don’t know whether it will work
which candidate flipped on almost every principal they had to get the right wing base?
which candidate thinks it is more important that his surge look like it worked at the expense of afghanistan and pakistan falling into chaos?
which candidate…
this is joke mcCain… when the surge wasn’t working on it’s own he used the exact playbook from afghanistan and started giving millions and guns to muslim extremists (insurgents) to fight with us against the taliban…
the exact same thing we did in afghanistan and ended up with al qaeda and osama bin laden
he is an old man who is stuck in bad old outdated war strategy from the 80′s. which brought terrorists back on our soil and gave them their biggest recruitment tools they have ever had.

It was John McCain who voted to send our soldier to war with a country which was no threat to us, a country which DID NOT have ANY weapons of mass destruction, AND IT IS John McCain WHO HAS SAID THAT HE WOULD MAKE THE SAME DECISION AGAIN. John McCain said that even with the faulty intelligence,(LIES)the war was premise on, that he, John McCain still felt that war with Iraq was justified, AND THAT HE WOULD DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
This is even though John McCain knows that the Iraq war has resulted in 4000 of our soldiers DYING in IRAQ!!! THIS IS WHAT YOU CALL TERRIBLE JUDGEMENT!!! JOHN McCAIN SAYING THAT HE WHO WOULD STILL SEND SOLDIERS INTO A WAR HE KNOWS WAS BASED ON A LIE!!!

McCain “was wrong then, he’s wrong now, and he still fails to acknowledge–he still fails to acknowledge that” he never should have supported any aspect of it. He still fails to acknowledge that his support of GWB has led this country down the drain. Never trust a Republican, ever!

Obama has shown bad judgment. He wants to lose a war by simply pulling out. That is a judgment Americans should not support.
Obama’s opposition to Iraq war is not based on good judgment. But it is based on the fact that he is anti-war. Remember his association with William Ayers, the domestic terrorist, who is an anti-Vietnam war terrorist.

Paul: Thank you!!! I totally agree.

Someone in here said that Obama was dishing out lies and blaming the opponent for everything going on. Upon reviewing this article and the one about the NYT snubbing McCain’s OpEd letter (and reading McCain’s intended letter) I can say that this is a false statement.
It appears that, in fact, it is McCain doing the finger-pointing and the ridiculing, whereas Obama is staying above that level of child’s play. He makes positive statements that do not villify McCain, and don’t question his opinions.
In the NYT post that McCain was going to put forth, McCain was going all over Obama about the surge. The OpEd articles from both candidates are to be about their goals about how and where they will lead this country if one becomes president. Obama kept that focus in his editorial, but McCain railed on him about his going to Iraq and harping about how ‘successful’ the surge was and that Obama must admit the surge worked.
Frantic are the cries of a drowning man.

IT IS JOHN McCAIN WHO VOTED TO GO TO WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE!
IT IS JOHN McCAIN WHO SENT 4000 SOLDIERS TO DIE.
IT IS JOHN McCAIN WHO HAS SAID THAT HE WOULD MAKE THE SAME DECISION TO GO TO WAR EVEN THOUGH HE KNOWS THAT 4000 SOLDIERS HAVE DIED!
IT IS JOHN McCAIN WHO HAS SAID THAT EVEN WITH THE FAULTY INTELLIGENCE (LIES) HE WOULD STILL HAVE VOTED TO INVADE IRAQ.
THIS IS EVEN WHEN JOHN McCAIN KNOWS THAT OVER 4000 U.S SOLDIERS HAVE DIED IN THE WAR!!!
THIS IS WHAT YOU CALL TERRIBLE JUDGEMENT, HOW THE HELL COULD JOHN McCAIN SAY THAT KNOWING THAT 4000 US SOLDIERS DIED, HE WOULD STILL MAKE THE SAME DECISION TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAQ AGAIN, EVEN WITH THE FAULTY INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION!!

Becky, I want you to get this into your head. Losing a war has nothing to do with the reasons given to start the war.
That was George W. Bush’s war and I think it was stupid of him to start the war.
However, at this point, there is a situation. USA cannot simply walk away from Iraq without winning. Losing is not an option for most of us. Of course, Obama would like to win this election by removing troops from Iraq even if it means losing a war.
However, I am not sure what Obama does. He is trying to get elected. May be he will refine his policies after getting elected. He may claim situation has changed and he cannot remove troops. He has zero credibility. Obama is a politician. The worst kind. If you are a young person, then my advise to you is to see what Obama does, not what he says.

For a big bad war hero he is such a whinney bitch.

People are calling names. If anything, it is Obama who whines how he can’t eat waffles .. waaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!!!

Well there goes McCain’s promise not to question his opponent’s patriotism.
Of course we knew it wouldn’t last – throwing “i’m more patriotic” mud is the only talking point the Repubs have

Obama is just like Bush. Blame some one else for everything that goes wrong.
Since Obama has no solution to winning war and the only solution he offered is to lose the war, I say, Obama is unfit to be the President of the US.

ericmiami,
But didn’t you hear that Obama is the reason we have $4 per gallon gas, the sinking of the Titanic, The Great Depression and Global Warming, LOL!

The Iraq war was wrong. It is time to get out. The Iraqis want us out. McCain needs to get on board with this and stop throwing insults at his opponent.

winning war in iraq–could someone give the details exact what we will have won–AND AT WHAT COST–FINANCIALY AND IN HUMAN LIVES AND SUFFERING—–no bs answers please

Is anyone else having the Mother Abigale dream? McScrimp and baby O, These are our choice’s really? The the best the Republicans could put forward? Obama not enough substance, What is a voter to do? It is like voting for Dumb or Dummer, How can anyone argue that the country is good shape? Those my friends are Republican policy Or Neo Con Democrats, Ha you have a majority of spineless self serving jerks in history, I say fine just Nuke Iran and get it over with Ok. I am tired of Government, Look it is like following a drunken coke head with a credit card, Care no they don’t, So stop kidding yourself, The American dream? You have to be asleap to believe it, George Carlin

Some One how can you lose a war that was already won????? Did you lose your mind??? Our military defeated the Iraq army commanded by Sadam and his sons. Sadam was hung and is grave yard dead so our Military can come home any day having won the war they were sent to win in Iraq, now we need to finish the one in Afganastan.

That any sane person is still supporting this idiot is unbelievable!
Obama is the biggest liar in the free world!

Thanks to Mccain for bringing up the issue about judgement.
He is going around talking about how right he was about the surge in iraq.
The question about judgement is ‘who was right about preventing the war in the first place?’.

Thanks to Mccain for bringing up the issue about judgement.
He is going around talking about how right he was about the surge in iraq.
The question about judgement is ‘who was right about preventing the war in the first place?’.

This talk about being willing to win a war than to win a campaign sounds to me that mccain is effectively saying he is willing to act unilaterally to take the country to war against the wish of the american people.

McSame will say and do anything to try to get votes.
This is republican same O – dirt throwing for his base of 21%
He is trying to blame Obama for everything bad in hopes it will stick, with some of the idiots voters that just dont bother read anything, in other words Republicans.

If you just reverse the perspective of that comment, you cannot help notice that McCain is fixated with winning the war. What please tell me defines Winning the war? I have never heard a definition of when this is won, except of course Bush’s “Mission Accomplished”
which should have been followed by immediate withdrawal.

At least McCain can make intelligent conversation. I don’t want him to win, but I have a very hard time thinking that he is more ignorant than Bush.

what ever happened to keeping it simple?
#1. Invade
#2. Kill everyone
#3. Take the spoils
#4. Leave
#5. WHO’S NEXT ?

Senator Obama did not listen to the troops on the ground in Iraq and is going ahead with his preconceived ideas about Iraq. His whole assessment is childish and phony. He certainly is proving he lacks judgment to be the president. He is a pathetic candidate who will do anything to get a few more votes. He is a dud.
Posted by: Mary | Jul 22, 2008 10:36:49 PM
Mary, let’s talk logically. I know this is a foreign concept so I’ll cut you some slack as I explain how it works.
A president is the commander in chief, which means he’s the top person in charge of our military. The president is not obligated to implement all or any advice generals, admirals etc may give him. He sets the mission and they are obligated to carry it out. Pure and simple. Personally I like his preconceived ideas about withdrawing our troops. You prefer that troops stay and die. And I bet you claim to be pro-life, right?

So John Sydney McCain III wants everyone to acknowledge that “the surge” has made Iraq safer and that the commanders on he ground should dictate any withdrawal. But he himself is ignoring the facts on the ground. The Anbar Sunni Awakening and the many awakening councils that followed were well under way BEFORE the escalation known as the surge was even announced. The locals had gotten tired of being used by foreigners, even Muslim foreigners and began to systematically work for their ouster and the stability of their own regions. The addition of 10,000 local police and the cooperation of all of the factions in Anbar province became a model for other provinces. These facts continue to be ignored (and lied about) by McCain so at this point he has zero credibility when it comes to the “facts on the ground” or the notion that “the surge is working”. Besides, a surge is defined as a temporary increase or influx. Since we have 17,000 MORE troops in Iraq now than we did before the surge, this is clearly an escalation and is far from temporary.

The people in Iraq are living normal lives, even though suicide bombings continue? If we have succeeded in Iraq, as McCain said, even though he conceded that Al Qaeda has not been completely defeated, why don’t we start withdrawing troops from Iraq? We did the same thing in Afghanistan, right? We removed most of our troops from Afganistan before Taliban and Al Qaeda were completely defeated, so that we could start the war in Iraq. Why can’t we do the same in Iraq?

Jane — “harming foreign relations?” I really don’t think anything Bush has done, especially his foreign relations (including giving his sexually-harrassing shoulder rub to the German Chancellor) can be made worse. Just by meeting with foreign leaders and showing the world that not everyone who puports to speak on behalf of the American people is a kook, Obama has already immeasurably improved our foreign relations. To call what he has said “fluff instead of substance” is to demonstrate either that you haven’t actually listened and comprehended, or that you don’t want to. Why do you view McCain as offering “true leadership?” He has now adopted most of Bush’s policies, completely reversing his prior tendency to be somewhat independent from the neocons and far right.

Barry O is a politician just like all of the other slimy politicians out there. He is adept at spouting platitudes and the media just adores him. At least with McCain I don’t have to worry about the media becoming his propaganda wing.
Also would be nice to be able to disagree without all the race-baiting and apologizing.
Might just have to go with the experienced, smart, veteran, POW, Naval Academy grad on this one.

Doesn’t matter how we got into the war, fact is we are there, can’t change the past and you’re acting a fool to keep harping on something that can’t be changed. What matters is what we do now and in the future to WIN the war and Obama has proposed NOTHING that would indicate a win. McCain like Bush is wise in choosing to base any withdraw on the conditions on the ground in the combat theaters affected. It’s one of the few things McCain has been right on. Obama on the other hand put out a plan before he even talked about the ground conditions with those in charge, even before setting foot in the theaters of operation. That’s juvenile, actions you expect from teenagers not a president.
For those of you wanting to quote post surge and presurge troop levels, you apparently have no military experience. Such fluctuations are normal as various units are replaced on the battlefield and overlapping dates where arriving units are brought up to speed by departing personel. So drop the rhetoric when you don’t know what you’re talking about. Also, the Surge did work, several Iraqi troop commanders credit the surge with the stabilization of Iraq’s trouble spots. I trust their input more than any politician simply because they were there where the metal met the meat. It’s why the president needs to continue to ignore congress’s press for a timetable and stand firm on a conditions based withdraw, that is the only sensible way to conduct military operations.
Posted by: Norm | Jul 23, 2008 11:39:28 AM
Norm your logic has many flaws. Don’t tell us it doesn’t matter how we got into the war. Because it does matter. It shows the kind of faulty judgment McCain would use in the future. McCain’s mentality is stuck in a 60 – 70′s time warp. He is incapable of seeing things in a way that stress diplomacy over military. I want a president that negotiates first and uses our brave troops only as a last resort. McCain simply wants to star in the sequel Cowboy Diplomacy 2 to reprise Bush’s old role.

For McCain to say that Obama would rather lose a war to win an election is DISGUSTING!!!Any fool that would believe that is SICK!!
And for McCain’s Camp to say that Obama would sit back and watch another holocaust happen is DISGUSTING!! Would really say the darker skin bi-racial candidate would sit back and watch the killing of any human? Any fool that would believe is beyond sick and just plain evil!
But when its said and done! God doesn’t like ugly! If someone has to lie on and demean another candidate in such a way to get to the white house, it says a lot about McCain and his supporters.

I am also a Democrat who is a supporter for McCain 100%!!! I would rather have Bush for another 4 years or McCain for 8 rather than Obama for 10min! Obama is a liar and walks on deception. He has undercover plans that America is going to be smacked right in the face with! Keep this county American and true… McCain08!

Angie and Melissa, you should upset cause Clinton didn’t win!
Well, as a women I can sad that I am sad to hear your stance on McCain vs. Obama. But will we win without you!
By the way, I strongly encourage you to take a look at McCain’s voting record on womens’ right.
Did you know that he voted against early mammograms being covered by insurance companies, equal pay for women (Clinton mentioned that), BC pills being covered by insurance companies (he voted against it twice but can’t rememember)
To every PUMA everywhere, if Clinton wants to come back in 4 or 8 years to run for president. She and you will need Obama supporters to get her there. Be kind to us because Karma can be sick. If you mess over us, we will mess over you!