McCain: Obama Should Cut Wesley Clark Loose.

For two days, the Obama campaign has been off message, forced to manage the fallout surrounding comments Clark made about McCain’s war service in a broadcast interview Sunday.
Oh please! Obama has McCain and the press off message. Not that either of you had a message.

Bet you the press will keep this running for another day.

Why does McCain not just concede instead of asking Obama to cut loose an honest General who has served through the ranl and file of armed forces and many more years than McCain.

After two days, I begin to wonder just how low the press coverage will get this time. Columbia Journalism Review, the most respected journal on journalism, has it right: ABC and most of the rest of the press screwed up. If Clark had really denigrated McCain’s service, I don’t think it would have taken an entire day for you to report on the story. Clark never denigrated McCain’s service. His comments were actually aimed at the press and your unwillingness to distinguish between foreign policy experience and the experience of being a POW. There is nothing controversial about these comments. And frankly this sort of made-up ‘gotcha’ journalism only lowers the level of political discussion and encourages candidates to stick to the script.

Throw him under the bus too.

John McCain, suck it up and take it like a man. Stop whining.

Just how many times did McBush get bailed out of trouble by his Admiral dad…….. like GW getting bailed out by his dad.
how many planes did McCain lose with reckless disregard….the other four times he crashed Navy planes that has not been talked about ???????

Obama now supports gay marriage but during the primary against Hillary he said he only supported civil unions.
All Christians need to question thinking of voting for someone like Obama who mocks God and God’s word.

HA! OOh this is rich. Okay, Johnny boy. We’ll take that under consideration.

McCain is such a baby! He thinks he can attach Senator Obama everytime someone speaks against McCain and tells the American people Obama should allienate himself from that person. Come on baby McCain grow up! Feeling sorry for someone speaking their mind is part of the American way of life as well as one of our rights. You want to lead this country? Grow up first!

Poor John. Poor, Poor John
In February 2003, McCain said “Absolutely not,” when asked whether “military service inherently makes somebody better equipped to be commander-in-chief.”

Jock98015 is one of these guys who likes to pretend to be other people so he can embarass then by insulting people. He might be the same one who has done this to me twice before, ot he could just be another lonely internet teenager who thinks he is too clever for his own good.

Barack needs to cut the American people loose…..by leaving.
Got Hope? NOPE!
PUMA!

I think it’s time for the McCain camp to cut McCain loose.

ABC, when I come to the “comment” sections of your website there seem to be 2 different versions. I take it that one is the news stories and the other (like this format) is for opinions and editorials. You claim that Senator McCain “said it was time for the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama to cut retired Gen. Wesley Clark loose” but you don’t even offer his quote. I understand that the more agitated you get your readers, the more likely they are to visit multiple times thus creating more ad revenue and using headlines and statements like these are a good way to drive traffic but please keep a sense of honest reporting and lay off the sensationalism. You will be more respected.

I don’t think anyone here would turn down a couple of million dollars if they had the chance to become “rich.” I find it so interesting that so many financially unfortunate Democrats resent wealthy Republicans, but don’t utter a peep about wealthy Dems. You may be surprised to realize that all Republicans aren’t rich. Some of us are poor or middle class who just happen to think that the ideals of the Republican Party are better for this country that the Socialist-leaning ideals of the Democratic Party. Gee, I like to keep as much of the money I make as possible. How strange! Conversely, you must realize all Democrats aren’t earning under $30,000 a year. To insult or resent people who have money is stupid and myopic. As I said, if someone stood there with a milion dollars, would you turn it down? Grow up!

McCain can take 5 years of torture in a POW camp but he can’t stand a criticism?
If you’re going to run on your ‘hero’ POW status (and there are many, many more soldiers than downed airmen who endured just as much, Mr. McCain), be ready to get it critiqued. Your people did it to Kerry in ’04. They invited this to be visited upon your campaign. Stop whining. Deal with it, answer the question General Clark posed: Why does being a POW make you more QUALIFIED to be president than Senator Obama?
This soldier would like to know, Senator McCain.

Obama, Dreams From My Father
“I will stand with the Muslims”

As soon as McCain explains what Clark was supposed to have done wrong, he can explain why Obama should “cut him loose.”

because I love my son and want what is best for him, I will continue to support Senator Clinton because she is the only candidate who is capable of being the best President that he deserves and that all our children, our troops and our Nation desperately need right now…..if you’re comfortable with supporting a lesser candidate (mccain/obama), then that’s on you…..

This is the same Obama who admits an addiction to cocaine and marijuana.
While McCain was fighting and then serving his country Obama was trying to end his life with an overdose.
No wonder (I see) Michelle had affairs.

Muslim supporter: Did Jesus’ teachings inspire you to blatantly lie like that or is it your preacher, Mr. Talk Radio, that has instructed you?

chris: Clinton was probably a good candidate, but the key word here is was.

why cant i post ——–oh i know i am speaking out against a republican these republican controlled media sources wont have that.

ok sorry bad connection

I love how liberals talk aboy McCain “losing” four planes. Two had engine that failed in flight and one was destroyed in the Forrestal fire. Yet, somehow it was his fault. It shows you how little democrats know.

Religion + politics = trouble.
Although I like Obama, I wish he would not be catering to religious fanatics. Just run based on your ideas and non religious beliefs.

honestabe—-very true clark is just a democrat and even if he supports obama how can obama cut him lose. this is still america the republicans havent taken all our rights away —(yet)

Pepsiholic: McCain was known as a reckless pilot and crash prone.

McCain = ordinary? Ah, no. $2.5 million say that’s not true. Obama = rich? Hardly.

Abe, how is engine failure and a fire on his ship his fault?

The war hero John McCain graduated in the bottom 1 percent of his Annapolis class. He screwed-up repeatedly but was given a pass because his father and grandfather were four-star admirals. Despite 4 abysmal academic years at Annapolis distinguished only by his misdeeds and malfeasance, McCain was offered the most sought-after Navy assignment — to become an aircraft carrier pilot. The justification for this was not documented in McCain’s naval file. Makes you wonder? Subsequently during his relative short stint on flight status, McCain lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat. Robert Timberg, author of The Nightingale’s Song, a book about Annapolis graduates and their tours in Vietnam, wrote that McCain “learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by.” McCain lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. McCain’s second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. “Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula,” Timberg wrote, “he took out some power lines”. McCain’s third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. McCain’s fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. McCain’s fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when McCain’s A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile and was captured. — Even among his crew he was known as a reckless piot and crash prone.

How can McCain say such hypocritical statements? McCain’s campaign has hired spokesmen from the “Swiftboat Veterans for Truth” to help his campaign. This is the same group who denigrated and insulted Kerry, and belittled Kerry’s wounds from war. Not only that, McCain has taken about $70,000 dollars from the Swiftboat Veterans, AFTER McCain repudiated them in 2004! McCain can be summed up in one word: HYPOCRITE. If you don’t want people, who honor your record, to question your record, then you should get rid of those people on your campaign who actually insulted Kerry’s service and are now insulting Clark’s service — he was a wounded Vietnam Vet, and a four-star general. Until, save the hypocrisy for someone else.

This Old man’s rank hypocrisy and bare-faced disembling is truly breathtaking!
A few days ago when one of his close confidantes remarked that a terrorist attack would be good for him, he said he rejected the comments and didn’t think it was grave enough to cut him loose. The Obama campaign did not call for his pointless removal from the frontline. In this Instance,Clark made a comment that analytically was absolutely right on the money, but because it did not fit the idiotic narrative of the Republican and their cohorts, a well-orchestrated hysteria was whipped up by ‘friends’ of McCain in the media most notably ABC News. Did the press point out the blatant hypocrisy of his position? Of course not, they are too busy being friends to this dishonest politician. On a more general point, ABC News, has being shameless in their obnoxious pandering to McCain, a quite staggering abandonment of any notion of fairness, balance and factual reporting. It is a disgraceful spectacle seeing so-called professional journalists being in so pliant, reminiscent of societies without freedom of the press. Shame on you. I hope Obama wins, just to show that you cannot systematically skew elections to align with your interests.

To say that Presidential Candidate McCain knows about how to be President and handle the war in Iraq because he spent a few years as a POW in Viet Nam; is like saying the idiot kid down the street, who ended up stuck inside the refrigerator for three days, after the neighbors put it out for salvage pick up is qualified to be a Maytag repair man. Start making sense!

Pepsiholic – The “Swiftboaters” got caught in a lot of lies as well.
And so did Kerry… But they weren’t the one’s who called our military a bunch of killers like Genghis Khan.

FilmMD – Please stop haha. If you read the article closely and have been paying attention to what McCain has been saying, he isn’t complaining about a thing, only saying that this is a distraction for both parties. Please be more educated when posting here!

and why is mccain travelling all over the world like he is already the president. we dont want free trade with countries that pay there employees wages that are about a tenth of what we get paid how can we compete with that. we need fair trade not free. look what free trade has done to our economy.

What is this?? Are we in North Korea now, where no one can question the Great Leader?? I thought this was America, where we have a right to free speech! I don’t live in North Korea, McCain!

What is this?? Are we in North Korea now, where no one can question the Great Leader??
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Just try attacking Obambi and you’ll see that you ARE in North Korea.

McCain = 4 more years of Bush.
Bush + 4 more years = 4 more years of pain.
MCCAIN = PAIN

Hey McIdiot, how about cutting Charlie Black lose for hoping for a terrorist attack?

Clark was right in saying what he said. The only thing he said was that being a pow and flying a jet do not qualify one to be a president, in REFERNCE TO OBAMA AND MCCAIN-that the journalist asked him. And the pundits are spinning this like a tornadoe since they know WE ONLY BELIEVE SOUNDBITES AND REGURGITATED PRESS COVERAGE..BECAUSE THE RIGHT IS SCARED OF CLARK, AND THEY ARE TRYING TO PUSH HIM OUT OF THE VP SLOT. WHO WANTS TO BE AGAINST A VP THAT HAS MORE QUALIFICATIONS THAN YOURSELF FOR PRESIDENT(Mccain).

GENERAL CLARK WON AN AIR WAR WHERE OTHERS FAILED – Ask the Serbians.

Fortunately McCain is not running Obama’s Campaign. I know it is not fair that Obama has a Campaign staff that he hasn’t turned over every month, like McCain. Funny thing is Clark is correct, and Clark also is not part of the Obama Campaign.
I think McCain should try and figure out who he is and what he stands for and make a pitch to the American public.
He just cannot get any traction can he. He just keeps getting distracted.

Oh, I agree, being a POW isn’t a qualification for President, it never was. Just like Obambi’s drug use the same time period doesn’t qualify Obambi to be President.

All you republicans who think we need another republican in office are nuts. How can you attack obamas religon and blood line? After what the Bush administration has done, I think you owe the nation and world an apology. I am 46 and selfemployed, and can tell you that times have never been so bad in my life time as they have been in the past 8 years. I think obama is smart, well spoken, and I think he can do alot for America. A whole lot more than the Bush family has ever done.

so obama should remove someone who wasnt speaking for the campaign but mccain should keep black around after his terrorist attacks on america would help mccain
pathetic
thanks again moronmccain

Tom, Kerry got caught in a big lie about his “Christmas in Cambodia” story. He outright lied about what caused him to be anti-war.

Tom, and Obambi has changed his mind about NAFTA.

How many stitches did Kerry get while wounded? Did he even mis a day of work for his splinters?

McBush is a total IDIOT..To night he is down in Columbia, and tomorrow in Mexico, raving about the wonderful NAFTA scr?w job..This is not going to play in mid-west America where millions are out of work..He is just as nuts as Bush, his sock puppet master. How many electoral votes does Mexico, Canada, and Columbia have Mr. McBush…You are a fruit cake…

And Obambi has changed his position on NAFTA, gun control, public financing and next up… IRAQ!!!

I don’t see the fault in General Clark statements.
What he says is factually true. While McCain services as a POW is honorable, that alone does not fly as a qualification for presidency.
I don’t see anything factually wrong with Clarks statements.

Tom, since when is Canada a third world country that doesn’t pay fair wages?

rodney: I agree, in fact I am shocked about all the dirt coming out on him now that I never knew about before. Both my wife and respected McCain before but now, as my wife put it, “he’s a sleaze”.

pepsi——-yes canada is ok also as far as i am concerned but why is mccain in south america were they pay a taco and two beans a week how can we compete with that?

Here are a few facts about John McCain that should be circulated to the American voters:
– His very poor performance (bottom 1 %) at the Naval Academy
– His preferential treatment at the Academy because of his Admiral father & grandfather
– His propensity to crash; he crashed five jets in his short career as a Navy pilot
– His womanizing and numerous affairs
– His adultery and dumping of his first wife
– His current wife’s drug problems and theft and how she avoided jail time
– His involvement in the Keating 5 scandal
– His questionable connections to lobbyists
– His anger management problems
– His physical and mental health condition especially considering his advanced age =====
Many voters are completely unaware of these important and troubling issues about John McCain but they know all about Obama being a gay Muslim terrorist racist. Sad.

Has anyone in the press asked the general what he would consider preparation for the Presidency? I certainly agree that being shot down and being held as a captive is NECESSARY preparation. But what does? Why does the general appear to believe Senator Obama does have the preparation?

Tom, currently we import stuff with Colombia but our stuff is has a heavy import tax. We could sell more stuff in Columbia and provide more work for Americans if democrats hadn’t opposed the trade agreement.

pepsi——and how about the very knowen fact he dumped his ex-wife so he could marry rich and pursue a political life with hsi new wives families contacts and money. very disgusting.

Here are some more truths about John McCain that many people don’t know:
– McCain divorced his first wife because she was disfigured in a car accident.
– He called his current wife a “trollop” and a “c*nt” when she did something to annoy him.
– He laughed off a comment about Hillary being a “b*tch” at one of his rallys.
– He made a disgusting joke about Chelsea saying that she was so ugly because “Janet Reno was her father”.
McCain is no honorable guy, in fact, he is quite a sleaze. Being a “war hero” or POW does not excuse this ugly side of his character nor make him qualified to be POTUS.

pepsi—- i feel so sorry for you you have been so blinded by bush and the evil republican party that you just dont see the truth…. please get some help you and the other 24% of americans that think like you will not be happy this fall when the dems take total control of this nation and make us prospeous again.

The Republicans destroyed John Kerry with lies about his military service. We are geting even now — not with lies but by exposing the truth about John McCain. We will not be swift-boated again.

pepsi——-no because he didnt use his marriage to move him into politics he was already his own man….mccain would never gotten into politics if not for him marring a drug addict cindy.

And why did Michelle marry a druggy like Obambi?

pepsi——get over cambodia kkerry is not running now we are talking baout mcflipflop here or mcbush or mcsame or mccrash or mcwar.

Tom, you guys are the one bringing up Swiftboating… the catching of a democrat in a lie.

Obama admitted he did drugs infrequently as a “wild” youth. He speaks out against drugs and warns kids not to make the same dumb mistakes he made. Cindy McCain, on the other hand, became a drug addict as an adult and stole drugs to support her habit. Then she got a sweetheart deal to avoid jail time due to her family and husbands connections. The American voters need to know more about this issue before we put her and her husband in the WH.

mccain needs to go get a blood transfusion with his pale self.
looks like a piece of chalk…

Doesn’t anybody else notice what is really going on. McCain is threatened by Clark because he can’t use one of the only things he has over Obama, his patriosim to his country. Clark clearly takes the cake in that field. The most serious thing any cantidate has said was they need to refudiate that person/comment. McCain went as far as to say Obama should “Cut him loose”. Why McCain, because if he was VP for Obama you would lose EVERY military vote you were planning on? What a chicken and a wimp.

According to his medical records, McCain frequently takes the sleeping pill Ambien. How is he going to be able to answer the 3 AM phone call when he zonked out on sleeping pills?

I am an old Air Force, fighter jock. Flew F-86′s in Korea and I can tell you if he crashed 5 jets he would have had a desk job for the remainder of his career which would have been very short in the USAF..

Pepsiholic: All POTUS candidates should release their medical records unconditionally.

buddy
thanks

In the end, folks, you’re basically voting for:
socialism vs captialism
Obama = socialist = higher taxes
And, not just on a national scale but a global scale. Google “Global Poverty Act”.

well i will tell you obama could run circles and out do mccain any way possible physically there is obama works out every day i am sur mccain just takes his geritol and reads the stock reports to see how much more rich he has become.

Yeah but buddy he didn’t crash five planes.

Awww, the press is being MEAN to Obama!!! Listen to all these liberals, frantically twittering when they read the first part of the sentence “For two days, the Obama Campaign has been off message” that they hyperventilate and fail to read the rest of the statement. This is a totally fair assessment of how Wesley Clark’s statement has derailed a campaign’s ability to focus. I wonder what the liberal chorus will do when they learn the maids forgot to leave a mint on Obama’s pillow this morning.

just as a reminder 80% of the presidents we ahve had that had military experiance have been really bad presidents go cheack it out it is true. so military experiance means crap.

Meanwhile…
The Taliban has regrouped after its initial fall from power in Afghanistan and the pace of its attacks is likely to increase this year, according to a Pentagon report that offers a dim view of progress in the nearly seven-year-old war.
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Yet the clueless warmongers, Bush/McCain, insist on focusing on Iraq.

Very true MCain is not educated to run for any office , much less the OVAL office . Wes Clarke was right , but didn’t articulate it well, that why he has fail in his bid to run for president.

I think Obama is also a prisoner of war. Can you imagine being married to the hate filled Michelle? It would be pure hell.

Yeah but Obambi is no Clinton. Obambi is to the left of Stalin.

ryan
the full truth about mccain is slowly surfacing—-when all is known republicans will run away from him–they are starting already

Oh get real McCain. You are accepting money from the Swift Boat boys, so up yours.

OK let’s see, a ex-general says on national TV that only a general “qualifies” to be the president. Maybe the West Point genius should do a little more studying of US history before he opens that big mouth again. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidents_by_military_service)
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We can all use the education!

I think Obama is also a prisoner of war. Can you imagine being married to the hate filled Michelle? It would be pure hell.
Posted by: NeverObama | Jul 1, 2008 9:21:44 PM
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Ahh HUSH!! . He is a prisoner like so many of us.. who had to put up with USELESS Bush and the past 8 YEARS.

Tom, McSame would be a whole lot better than 4 more years of Carter.

Jake: Cindy McCain was caught stealing drugs to support her addition by the DEA. Anybody else would have gone to jail. Why did she get such a sweetheart deal?? Paid a fine — what a joke — she’s a f**king billionaire.

You know what they say what comes around go’s around….Obama is getting back what he did to Hillary……..They did this to bill and tried to make Bill and Hillary out to be racist.Obama is always playing the race card …He thinks it’s going to get him elected…God i really do hope he doesn’t come out with a big dumb a*s speech about this….

Hah, terry be you to it ;)

I don’t think Obama should cut Clark but maybe just throw him under the bus with the rest of the trash. The dumpster is almost full but I think there is room for one more.

Wessy Clark is a disgrace to the United States and does not deserve to be called “General”. Obama must fire him immediately or Obama is just as disgraceful as Clark is. I would expect Wessy Clark to be a nobody by 9:00 AM tomorrow.

Cut him loose? So you Rethugs can come out with your old “under the bus” refrain again? Maybe McCain should cut Republican lying and Republican liars loose.

I used to like McCain…when he ran eight years ago. Now he’s turned into just another Bush…only much older.
And when I found out that he called his wife a “c___” (rhymes with “runt”) in public…I lost all respect for him.
Too bad.

“The highly regarded former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO…”
Snort

Clark is no less of a war hero than McCain. He fought for the right to have an opinion too. McCain should stop whimpering.

Nice to see the neo-cons now anchor by jOHN MCbush is out in full force with thier BUMPER CRY.
YOU BETTER VOTE FOR US BEFORE THE TERRORIST HIDES UNDER YOUR BED.

I actually thought Michelle was a man in drag the first time I saw her. Look at the adams apple, that isn’t a women.

tom, just out of curiosity what was the interest rate on your home under Carter?

McCain should quit whining. How can he be President if he can’t take a little criticism. Those of you who think he’s so great don’t know much about him. He left his first wife and mother of his children after having an affair with Cindy. I guess morals aside it was all right to go for the throphy wife with the big bucks and dump the first wife after she was crippled in a car wreck. Nice guy.

republicans know they have no chance of winning —so they threw in there lowest form of republican life–yes even worse than bushy the nut.

This is the same Obama who admits an addiction to cocaine and marijuana.
While McCain was fighting and then serving his country Obama was trying to end his life with an overdose.
No wonder (I see) Michelle had affairs.
Posted by: Drug Abuser
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And at that time our present George W
was doing the drugs on daddys ranch!

i didnt say it was good under carter just better then bush carter never lied to us he didnt sell his soul to the big oil companies he was acually a very nice guy and he has been the best ex-president we have ever had he does more for charity then the whole bush family ever has or ever will. yes carter was not a good president but he wasnt dirty and evil like bush.

Randy, it’s hard to debate someone who won’t attend the debate. dah.

Nice to see the neo-cons now anchor by jOHN MCbush is out in full force with thier BUMPER CRY.
YOU BETTER VOTE FOR US BEFORE THE TERRORIST HIDES UNDER YOUR BED.
Posted by: theboogeyman | Jul 1, 2008 9:36:40 PM
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Bahaha… of course they have to sell fear, have you seen their platform, oh yes! they have nothing to offer.
fool me once shame on me twice , dont think America will buy it this time.

terry—— i had a loan from my local bank and i payed 5% interest on that loan. i payed my house off in 2000 and i refinanced it to remodle it and i am now paying 9 % in 1978 i was making $13 an hour and now i work in the same factory (different owners) and i make $14 and hour so oh yes i was much better off in 1978.

Can you democrats tell me something… Clark said that being shot down and being a POW was a prereq for President…
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When did McCain ever say it was?

Excuse me… I mean not a prereq

America cannot tolerate another year of Republicans in the WH. Mission one is removal of the Bush/Cheney/McCain warmongering/profiteering regime!

roger king——–yes and he will thorw mccain under the bus in november.

The GOP brand is junk. It now represents corruption, scandal, lack of ethics, deceit, waste, fraud, abuse and Bush — in fact it looks fatal. They might as well disband and start over.

honestabe——i know lincoln would hate and proably call for bushes head and lost the heads of the party he started.

McCain is a dinosaur. He does not even know how to use a computer. The man is completely out of touch with reality.

roger king——–yes and he will thorw mccain under the bus in november.
Posted by: tom | Jul 1, 2008 9:46:37 PM
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WEll done!! that deserves a 10 .
i would say it will a 16 wheeler.

tom
i had a former employer that went to acadamy with carter he told me same—jimmy is more religion than politition–one of the best as human being.

“Cindy McCain was addicted to painkillers after having pinched nerves in her back.
Posted by: Jake | Jul 1, 2008 9:22:32 PM
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How CUTE !! You are a sucker, I bet I can sell you a air- conditioner in the north pole.
Posted by: susie32″
Susie, all I know is what is reported in the press. Also, back pain is an extremely common reason to take painkillers, and a common pathway to addiction. Do you have an alternative explanation for why she started taking painkillers? For example, is she an evil witch who thought it would be great to deny painkillers from others who really needed them, and ransacked peoples medicine cabinets?
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“Jake: Cindy McCain was caught stealing drugs to support her addition by the DEA. Anybody else would have gone to jail. Why did she get such a sweetheart deal?? Paid a fine — what a joke — she’s a f**king billionaire.
Posted by: HonestAbe”
Actually, Honest Abe, Cindy McCain was taking the drugs from the supply of her charity, AVMT. A disgruntled former employee tried to extort money from McCain in return for his silence; when she refused, he contacted the DEA and reported the theft of drugs from McCain’s charity. This is all wall reported and well-established. The easiest place to look it up is Wikipedia.
For those of you who are interested in positive aspects of Cindy’s life, here is another quote from Wikipedia about her charity:
Cindy McCain founded the American Voluntary Medical Team (AVMT).[1] It was a non-profit organization that organized trips for doctors, nurses, and other medical personnel to provide MASH-like emergency medical care to disaster-struck or war-torn third-world areas such as Micronesia, Vietnam (before relations were normalized between them and the U.S.[12]), Kuwait (arriving five days after the conclusion of the Gulf War[12]), Iraq, Nicaragua, India, Bangladesh and El Salvador.[7][27][28][29][30] She led 55 of these missions over the next seven years,[11] with each being of at least two weeks’ duration.[30] AVMT also supplied treatment to poor sick children around the world.[31]

Oh where oh where is Obama’s real birth certificate? Oh where oh where can it be?

pepsiholic——–ever heard of halibirton or the keating five or the contras scandle. how about that fact we would never had to deal with bin laden if not for charlie wilson and ronny reagan..

McCain should quit whining. How can he be President if he can’t take a little criticism. Those of you who think he’s so great don’t know much about him. He left his first wife and mother of his children after having an affair with Cindy. I guess morals aside it was all right to go for the throphy wife with the big bucks and dump the first wife after she was crippled in a car wreck. Nice guy.Posted by: jr64 …………..
How in the world can any Obama supporter claim any morals after you know what kind of church Obama went to for 20 years…And Obama standing for wright G.D America right after 911 and the American people that isn’t black….God some people got some damm nerve….

Weasel Cluck has been describe by fellow officers abrasive and unpopular. He was relieved of command after the war in Yugoslavia for insubordination.
He was sucking up to Hillary in the Democratic primary but now has his head up Obama”s @ss. While it would be difficult to pull Cluck out, I think it is sound advice to Obama. Throw Cluck under the bus. He will have plenty of company there.

Oh he’ll cut him loose alright in a big media hoopla extravaganza around the 4th of July holiday designed to get the most media coverage and steal the show from the much deserved military heros of this country including John McCAin. We’ll all be a captive audience to this guy’s outrageous self-indulgence and media hogging circus.

Obama is now officially a living cartoon. Last week he unveiled his own seal of approval, this week he’s attempting to swiftboat McCain and all military personnel – and what part of Obama’s religious affiliation isn’t offensive? The clown wants to bring the show to the White House. He has melted faster than DuKakis, Mondale, Gore or Kerry. He’s a goof! He needs Hillary for him to look good.

pepsiholic——well in a way teh rich and powerfull in a round about way did give aids to the blacks and poor in the late 1800, and early 1900,s business owners gave drugs to the blacks to keep them so drugged up that they wouldnt complain about poor wages and bad working conditions that drug use lead to the downfall of the black family for a long time and yes to bad sex and drug useing ways which lead to aids and many other things.

I don’t think Michelle is really a man but I do think Barack is a little light in his loafers. Did you see him bowl?

Obama is naive and inexperienced. He is not qualified to be President . End of story. No point putting a spin on it. Just as you would not allow a medical intern to perform surgery on yourself, I don”t want a political novice to be President of this great nation.
Senior citizens for John McCain.

Obama is not the canidate that will change “politics of old”. Obama’s political history proves otherwise. He is actually worse tha the “swift boat” clowns. If you want change for the worse, vote Osama.

HonestAbe:
Actually, I think the Republicans are already starting to disband. Look at the campaign ads for Republican candidates. They are calling themselves Independents, Libertarians, anything but a Republican.
The new name for the GOP is becoming ‘Bipartisan’. Every GOP candidate is tossing that word around like its the party name. Sounds like the party of Lincoln is restructuring under a new banner.
Its amazing how much damage 8 years of Bush/Cheney/McCain can cause. All orchestrated by Karl Rove. The same Karl Rove who has launched another smear statement against Obama’s ‘patriotism’. So much for McShame’s indignation.

Mccain is a WAR HERO nobody is disputing that but does that make him Presidential? General Wesley is definitely right.

I agree that ther is a difference in being a pow and being president, there’s also a big difference between being a lawyer who sue’s people and being the leader of the free world!

As a member of the NRA, I applaud the move to ensure Hussein never sits in the Oval Office. He is a greedy, self-serving politician who will do or say anything to win votes. He is a threat to the 2nd Amendment.
It is the duty of all Americans who believe it is our right to own gun to work as hard as possible to make sure Hussein is not elected President.
NRA for John McCain.

I’m amazed by the people here who say that McCain should “stop whining and be a man”. These same people who would have cried their eyes out and begged for mercy after five minutes of what McCain endured for five years.
Such a lack of respect for a man who has proven himself to be more courageous than 99% of the population. A guy who refused to be released early because his father was an Admiral, ahead of his fellow POWs. I wonder if the people making these sorts of disgraceful comments would have that sort of courage and integrity. I wonder if Sen. Obama would.

McCain’s whining…AGAIN?
Somebody change his diaper.

I can see some people now have names similar or quite close to mine. Thats welcome. Nobody has a monopoly to any name.

jay
war hero—-you might be surprised

Pepsiholic…Yeah that to….And lets not forget wrights good friend and Obama too i bet…Farrkhan..Obama said he never did meet him but we all know this is a lie..Because there’s a picture of Michelle and Farrkhan’s wife…So im sure Obama did meet him Michelle would have made sure of that…

There was a recent report that McCain helped steer a tanker contract to a European company for which seven of his campaign advisers and fund-raisers were lobbyists. The Government Accountability Office, a nonpartisan arm of Congress, found last week that the air force had made “significant errors that could have affected the outcome” of a competition between Boeing, Northrop Grumman and European Aerospace & Defense Systems, or EADS, which was awarded the contract. These “errors” were most likely committed due to the pressure put on them by McCain who favored EADS.
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It is becoming more and more clear that McCain is being influenced by the army of lobbyists who surround him. Looks like the “straight talk express” has gone crooked.

I hope obama keeps Clark around. He’s sinking obama’s ship faster than a tidal wave.

Talking about speeches, Obama’s speeches are energetic and inspiring while Mccain’s is always empty and exasperating.

McCain biggest problem is his image as an old boring white guy linked to Bush. I don’t think he can ever shake that. I think Obama will win easily even though he has an image as an inexperienced, liberal, pseudo muslim, possibly terrorist, black guy.

Maybe Bambi should try his seal of approval again. That was a winner. Reminds me of DuKakis in the pith helmet. The man flipping around like a fish out of water. He’s desperate and throwing everything he can get his hands on hoping, against hope, that he will stop being a goof.

While in months to come Barack will be rocking big crowds and it will be fun for all.
John McDiaper will be appearing at your local SHADY PINES RETIREMENT HOMES trying to put those people to sleep much more early than they would like.(*_#)

And I heard McCain’s wife Cindy has a secret love child with Trent Lott, but they keep him hidden in a home for kids with Down syndrome. It’s a shame cause he’s a normal kid, they just can’t let him out because of the political repercussions.

First we had the swift boat group against Kerry, now, we have the Obama stooges against, McCain. Looks like Obama took another idea out of the Karl Rove playbook. So much for CHANGE.

Simple. Obama- NO. McCain- Yes.

The Obama camp has finally sunk to the bottom of the barrel. Really sad that they have sunk so low.

LeRoy says: “If Obama was in McCain’s shoes while a POW, he would have joined the enemy.”
That’s exactly what Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain says McCain did.
I don’t believe it…it’s too terrible to even imagine.

Notwithstanding, Obama will win in a landslide. Mccain is just too old. I cant imagine my father who is of Mccain’s age making any political or economical decisions for me. That is DISASTER in the making.

Good point. Obama hopes. McCain does.

Cindy McCain was addicted to painkillers after having pinched nerves in her back. Her family intervened, she underwent treatment, and had to pay a fine for stealing the painkillers. You can look it up in wikipedia. There are no secrets and no conspiracy. Betty Ford was going through similar things.
Posted by: Jake
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Sounds like an ole’ Limbaugh
excuse. BTW he hasn’t had a
bit of pain after straightening
himself out or does he have
a better supplier (maid)

jock980 – maybe one of the fathers is mccain? he’s a known adulterer. lol but seriously, your digsusting lies only help obama. yes we can!

Her Too – so what? lots of people are atheists – last time i checked it was still a free country and we could choose to believe whatever we want.

Obama is a gay black communist who loves Allah and hates America.

Jerry in FL – they’re not, but thanks for asking. Anything else we can help you with?

Sorry if the truth being told by Clark hurts. Maybe if the McCain campaign had the ethics to cut loose all the lobbyists, swindlers, cheats, and felons running his campaign they’d have a leg to stand on with this idiotic demand. Stop complaining when the facts hurt and go pay your taxes McCain.

I thought McCain had a point…until today.
But him and his team bad-mouthing Wes Clark’s service record (about a thousand times more impressive than McCain’s)…prove that Clark was 100% CORRECT.

I really don’t understand the McCain hatred. Unless you people are just hate mongers. This man has time and again reached across the aisle to form a concensus and move govt. forward out of gridlock. He’s about as centrist middle of the road as you can get. He’s stood alone and taken the heat. He can stand strong against pressure and has been tested and proven. Age has only made him better. What is you peple’s problem. There is nothing BAD about John McCAin but I hope you think long and hard before voting in a complete green horn amatuer. It’s not uncool to be realistic.

My confusing post meant to say that Wes Clark is leading Joe Biden in the CQ poll. Oops.

Mccain was almost last in his class why General Clark was first in his class. What does that tell you of his level of intelligence? It is NO JOKE to be made a GENERAL anywhere in the world. That is why Mccain had to leave the Navy,he was too dull to be considered for an ADMIRAL which is the equivalence of a GENERAL in the army.

think long and hard before voting in a complete green horn amatuer. It’s not uncool to be realistic.
Posted by: danni | Jul 1, 2008 10:22:17 PM
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That amateur is smarter and carries the vision going into the 21st century.
Mccain and his camp send barack a message by air-mail . they CANT EVEN LOG ONTO a INTERNET.much less text message.
You talk about a group thats out of touch.
give me the blackberry over the letter carrier.

Two things are clear in this country right now politically: One is; you can only be patriotic if you have served in the military. Two is; you are more acceptable as an ex-military personnel if you were in some form of negative situation while serving. Otherwise, in clear terms militarywise, Mccain is a boy to Clerk a general of highest international repute. So, I cannot understand how this media will make a huge story out of a superior giving the clearest estimation of a junior. “If once a soldier is always a soldier”, A junior officer Mccain Owe General Clerk
a military apology for asking that his superior should be “cut lose”. Clerk’s statement is not demeaning but a material fact. It is a fact even though this dead media is frolicking with it.

That amateur is smarter and carries the vision going into the 21st century.
Mccain and his camp send barack a message by air-mail . they CANT EVEN LOG ONTO a INTERNET.much less text message.
You talk about a group thats out of touch.
give me the blackberry over the letter carrier.
Posted by: stan | Jul 1, 2008 10:27:51 PM
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Hahaha people are in fine form tonite
that was funny . Mcain wanted to debate barack so he send him the message by airmail.
YIKES !!!

If Mccain wants to refute all these allegations, all I ask him is to release his military records. You will see him running like Bolt. RELEASE YOUR RECORDS MCCAIN. America needs to know the truth.

McCain refused the early release ahead of other POWs encouraged upon him by his Vietcong captors and torturers, who wanted to make an object lesson that the privileged few in America would make choices in their own interests ahead of those of others. McCain’s father and gradfather were influential admirals. By refusing early release ahead of other POWs, McCain subjected himself to years of psychological and physical torture in a Vietcong prison camp. This is well-established in the testimony of other POWs in the Hanoi Hilton.
Instead of coming back destroyed by this ordeal as many were, McCain ascended to the highest levels of our government, and found it in his heart to even advocate and lead humanitarian aid to Vietnam, home of the torturers who had taken 5 and a half years of his life.
I don’t think being a pilot qualified him to be president. I don’t even think being an incredible hero who has lived the lessons of vietnam and paid the price for our country qualifies him as president. But it does speak to his character and resilience. In the Hilton, McCain was a beacon of hope to those around him, helpful in the ways he could be, according to published accounts of eyewitnesses. His choice to accept years of torture in exchange for nothing but honor is one few could make.
Clearly, it is McCain’s decades of Senate experience and his long-established track record of bipartisanship, willingness to deviate from a party line on matters of principle, opposition to government waste, and fair and decisive character that qualify him to be president rather than his military background. But those of us who support him and those who do not should rightfully feel pride in this man.

wes clarke was a hillary supporter from the start , so her surrogates are known for stuff like this , just ask barack.
Wes Clarke was dissin Barack just a few months ago.
I smell SABOTAGE STILL.
Barcak have no clues what HIllary crue will SAY.

Obama is the worst democratic candidate in HISTORY. McCain will slaughter nobama in the general election. I feel the landslide coming. Heck no to barack obama.

A lot of comments this evening that seem way out there if you know what I mean. I did not know people could be so far out. The truth is we people is far out.

It’s beginning to look like the Republicans just can’t lose in November. No, not because McCain will win, but because every day Obama adopts one more of their policies or programs. He now says he will continue the Bush Faith-Based program which shovels government money to religious organizations without proper oversight. In fact, he says he will increase it. Last week he voted for the FISA legislation which Democrats have long opposed. He has already nuanced his Iraq policy to the point where nobody knows what he’ll do in office. At what point do we throw our hands up in the air and say who cares if he wins.

McCain has forgotten more about service and sacrifice and love of country then Obama will ever even know much less understand.

Obama has no track record? He may not have been prominent on the national scene but he has always been there on the POLITICAL scene. Even ABC can attest to this. They had to go back to 1996 to arose a comment he made on welfare just to smear him as flip-flopping. Still laughing.

Obama just crossed the line. My son is active duty navy, and this talk is very disturbing. Obama is putting his supporters up to this vile behavior. When our military heroes are critized in this manner, you lost all the votes in our family.

That amateur is smarter and carries the vision going into the 21st century.Posted by: stan | Jul 1, 2008 10:27:51 PM
Oh really, and what vision is that. I’m dying to know.
Posted by: danni | Jul 1, 2008 10:38:33 PM
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*SIGH* Just go to his website his platform/ and vision is in full force if you have lots of time to read.
but i guess you are from his group , that thought should have been automatic.
But let me guess , the elevator dont go to the top for you.

Did the cult worship service get out early tonight?

No, Clarks comments were not respectful as someone posted earlier. Watch the expression on Schiffer’s face. Even he was dumbfounded at the outlandish comments. McCain’s running on his long record of politics and service and military. LONG RECORD. What’s Obama running on. Oh yea a vision.

Somehow criticizing McCain’s military service is off-limits. Gen. Wesley Clark was just making a statement that one’s military service does not automatically qualify you to become President. Even John McCain has said this numerous times. (1999, 2003 and 2004–Live with Dan Abrams)
And just because he was a POW does not mean any criticism to the levels of his military service and his foreign policy position should be considered disrespectful.
It seems as though everytime someone puts a spotlight on John McCain’s gaffes, flip flops, age, character, or military record, the Republican pundits cry the “he’s a POW” line.
I respect what he did for our country many years ago. But McCain is running for President. Former generals shouldn’t be lambasted for expressing their opinion of him without being labeled unpatriotic or disrespectful of McCain’s POW time.
McCain needs to buck it up and stop using these lame distraction tactics from the real issues of this campaign.

Poor Mccain the senile, said the other day….
” ya see iraq is nice and safe look how we all are out and not one sound of gunfire”
Lierberman whisper to to McSame:
” John we are in Puerto Rico”
McCain response ” OOOOPS’

Obama flip-flop as far as am concerned is only the Public finance issue. The FISA bill, most Senators including Obama supported that but the only snag was the protection for phone companies. That was the essence of the filibuster.For Guns that has always been his opinion. For the death penalty you do not really have to search far. Its there in the Auacity of hope. For the faith-based initiative, that comes with his work as a community organiser. It is still the same Obama. Slight augmenting in his policies unlike Mccain who flips like a fish.

I think we’ve seen this show before when Obama ran against Clinton. He’ll send his underlings out to do some dirty work while he pretends to be above it all. Should McCain criticize him too much over the matter, charges of racism will suddenly appear.

Poor Mccain the senile, said the other day….
” ya see iraq is nice and safe look how we all are out and not one sound of gunfire”
Lierberman whisper to to McSame:
” John we are in Puerto Rico”
McCain response ” OOOOPS’
Posted by: cyberhack | Jul 1, 2008 10:49:27 PM
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Beauty!! bahahah.. I know! the poor guy dont know where he is half the time. it is scary.

It seems this report has hit a nerve. The comparison to Swiftboat seems taken out of context. General Clark seems to be a “loose cannon”. Maybe Clark’s Vietnam is not McCain’s Vietnam. Army vs. Navy. Who knows? As a Democrat and retired Air Force, I’ll just keep quiet and let the egos explode on their own. No need in exposing EOD to the blast or collateral damage.

It really is understandable why we have this dialogue about military service. One has it, the other does not. How do you then even the slate of advantages on your resume? You try to dilute someone’s military service if you do not have any yourself. This whole story is a ploy. Clark is talking about it because he supports Obama, and he has been mentioned as a possible VP. He has downgraded his own stature by trying to deny McCain the benefits of having served and serving heroically. I am ashamed of Clark who felt the need to say what he did. A candidate is affected and developed by all of his experiences. Military service, at the least, should provide a great deal of understanding for military matters and leadership. Obama still has none, no matter how hard his people try to denigrate McCain’s service. Obama needs to go back to the streets of Chicago and help Rezko, Wright, and Phlager do some more heroic deeds and service. His resume is sorely lacking in substantive effort.

Wilma, PCC, Danni and others who would seek to drag Barak Obama through the mud while extoling the the purported virtue, honor and patriotism of John McCain, ad nauseum.
I’m a christian, Pro-Life, against gay marriage (although have no problem with civil union [if that's how people want to live their lives] in that it’s not sacremental) and support Barak Obama for president! It’s John McCain and the policies he’s already espoused that will put this country into a deeper tail-spin!
There, that wasn’t difficult!

Never in my life have I seen so many democrats willing to vote for a republican.
Posted by: Glen | Jul 1, 2008 10:55:45 PM
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Where did you get that from . those text are from neo-cons pretending to be liberals.
you look at the issues , no one in their right mind would vote for more of the same of the past 8 years ,
if they did . you would have to ask the question : why did you get involve with politics this year, crying how bad the state of the country is.

Remember the 2000 election? Now, who was the canidate that was for “CHANGE”? In the 2008 election, there is another “CHANGE” canidate. What is that old saying; “fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me”. Are you a “fool”, or have you learned?

IT IS SO OBVIOUS THAT McCain does not want his military record discussed or questioned. · The media is not exploring it, but treats Sen. McCain as a sacred cow. WES CLARK should be commended for helping us to set the facts straight on McCain’s military record and leadership myths. McCain served the country; and should be lauded for that. But the military is not the only way Americans can serve their country! For being shot down and imprisoned in Hanoi, McCain is held as a hero by much of the media and the political establishment. That’s not the definition of hero as we understand it in historical examples and myths. The hero always wins, is courageous and any ultimate judgment about heroism is usually result-based. McCain even appeared in the enemy propaganda ad. Evidence suggests that McCain played it safe with the safest planes in the Navy, was irascible and often behaved irresponsibly while in the Navy. He drank heavily and lived the playboy life, and later had an affair while still married to his first wife who had had a terrible accident. That’s not a hero trademark, and on that score alone, is no hero to me! Could McCain’s behavior in the Navy and his lack of discipline have contributed to his less than a stellar military career? Did his lack of discipline and inadequate training have contributed to his being shot down by the enemy? McCain got away with a lot in the Navy because his father was Admiral. After he came back from Hanoi, McCain was not promoted to any substantial military positions –nor was he, contrary to myth, in line for Admiral position? These are facts the media are not telling you and are not willing to explore or even discuss. Bush assailed McCain and Sen. John Kerry (Remember the Republican “swift-boating” of Sen. Kerry?) in their run for President and got away with it. Bush, who had no equivalent military service as McCain, was elected (or should I say, selected by the Supreme Court) over Al Gore who served in Vietnam. Does that not make it clear that military service alone is not the only qualification for being President. Think of President Clinton as another example. Clinton won over the Senior Bush who served in the military. Today, the Republicans are ready to shout foul whenever anyone dares to question McCain’s military service and his qualification to be President. He may be qualified; but his ideas are wrong for the time and military service is not the only kind of national service and patriotism! And perhaps more telling, McCain was not a smart student: He finished college almost last in his class; and didn’t perform well either in the Navy. In this campaign, he has shown again and again that he is not a quick study: He gets the facts wrong and sometimes looks and speaks confused. This from a man who wants to lead the free world! The only effective answer by the McCain campaign is to release his full military record. Sen. Kerry did this! We have a right to know.

Obama has given $200,000 in earmarks to Fr. Pfleger. Will Obama return this money to the government?

Mikeymike, go to justsaynowdeal . com and see the millions who are crossing over. You need to better educate yourself.

carole26 – What is scary is, an American politician who doesnt know how many states this country has
Posted by: Badger1 | Jul 1, 2008 10:59:46 PM
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Nice try . do come again . nit pickin, because he said the wrong number , after 16 intense months of campaign with little to no sleep ,
Mccain wrap things up a long time he was getting his 10 hr sleep , how come he couldn’t tell of the different fractions in Iraq and claim thats his strenth and he did that more than once .
the rate he is going he will have to STRAP lieberman to his waist in baby carrier to have bail him out , because he is CLUELESS.

Yet another friend of Obama’s who will have to thrown under the bus.

Read this:
Over the weekend, retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark said that McCain is “untested and untried,” and elaborated that, “I don’t think getting in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to become president.” Clark, you may remember, ran for president in 2004 on his record as a career military officer, so his comment, which he has not retracted, was not just morally offensive but self-discrediting.
Is this not true? Which is it, military service is an asset when running for president or not;at the very least it is a desired qualification Clark or once again did you forget your failed presidential career after your failed military one.

You tell me Gonzalo.
As Bush and Rove both ducked active military service, is it an issue for Republicans or not?
The fact is that what Clark said was right. You are hardly taking vital military or strategic decisions while locked in a cell.

McCain is not a defense expert or a national security expert because he has a military background.
Posted by: Newsrook | Jul 1, 2008 11:06:19 PM
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Just like Mr Clark, you speak a factually correct but a belittling, mocking, and misleading statement.
McCain is a defense expert because he is the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, which he has sat on for over 21 years as a senator. In addition to other committees having to do with national security and foreign affairs.

There is nothing wrong with the statement made by Gen. Clark. Let us find something better to talk about

Does anybody really believe that Clark went out on a Sunday morning and said something that wasn’t planned for him to say? That is the way Obama operates.He don’t ever say anything his self,he has someone else to say it.

Badger1…
Probably for the same reason the media’s not exploring all those Vietnam veterans and POW stories about McCain collaborating with the enemy and classifying his records after the war so no one could see them.

And the democrats cheated out Hillary for this military basher.

Olivia, you have forgotten, it appears, how blatantly ignorant George Bush was of even the European political scene when he took office. It wasn’t an issue for you Republicans then, was it?

McCain needs to stop whining – he had an opportunity to stop this kind of attack in 2004, when the Swiftvets lied and smeared his friend John Kerry. But he chose to remain silent and now it’s his turn. He should stop whining and take his lumps like a man. Turnabout is fair play. If Republicans object to these kind of tactics, they never should have invented them in the first place.

Badger – because why should Obama give McCain free publicity when he has nothing to gain from it? Why do you dumb Republicans whine whenever a Democrat won’t bend over and your f– him up the arse? Can’t you whiners fight to win anymore? This is what it’s like to get your arse beat in an election – get used to it and stop crying like a little girl. lol

steveinPA…
Carter? You mean THIRTY years ago?
LMAO.
You Republicans…are truly amazing.
Failures AT everything. Excuses FOR everything.

Hey Glenn,
JustSayNoDeal.com looks and sounds like a bunch of hooey to me. Like a Karl Rove hatched plot to devide Democrats. And if not–Who cares!

Marilyn – maybe you’re right, maybe you aren’t – but McCain is definitely worse. I don’t want another Republican in the White House for as long as I live.

steveinPA…
Carter? You mean THIRTY years ago?
LMAO.
You Republicans…are truly amazing.
Failures AT everything. Excuses FOR everything.
Posted by: wilder5121 | Jul 1, 2008 11:26:56 PM
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this is beyond funny. Bush has to be on this board saying this stuff.
outside of him.. its the clowns with the IQ of a fire hydrant that got him in with 2 terms.

Jock98015,
You are such an idiot, brainless fellow like you, people are talking about Clerk’s comment, you are talking about Obama’s two daughters. Its high time this opinion session start recognizing idiots like you.

“One thing Obama did not do while with the review was publish any of his own work. Campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said Obama didn’t write any articles for the Review, though his two semesters at the helm did produce a wide range of edited case analyses and unsigned “notes” from Harvard students.”
Oh you gotta f-’ing be kidding me! He doesn’t even have that to back him up. He’s a complete con-artist.

Obama has been in politics for 11 years. Why haven’t we seen or heard any of this change before now? He has been a typical politician, with criminal friends, dirty money, and changes his view, every time the wind changes direction. If you look at his record, it is sad and doesn’t deserve another thought. However, he does talk a lot and makes a lot of promises. Talk is cheap.
Posted by: Marilyn in Orlando | Jul 1, 2008 11:26:59 PM
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This is the best blog of the night.
This is worth saving.

Anyone who thinks that Obama had
nothing to do with Clark’s comments is
either naive or stupid!
This was a coordinated attack and response! This gives Obama the
opportunity to pretend to be upset
about Clark’s comments while knowing full well that he and his campaign put Clark up to it!
After professing to run a clean campaign
Mr New Politics appears to be just
another politician!
His campaign said that they would not
bring up McCain’s age but wasn’t it
Obama himself who implied that McCain
had “lost his bearings” a couple of months ago?
Now he’s sending out surrogates to
attack McCain’s war record and denying
he had anything to do with it!
Obama will say or do anything to get
elected!
He appears to have 2 postions on
everything, NAFTA, Guns, Gay Marriage!
In fact he was for the DC gun ban before
he was aagainst it!
Just Say No To Obama! No You Can’t!

“Mccain is a coward and he backed out from the GI bill and now is trying to claim support. His initial comments was that it was going to make more people leave. Leave? How archaic does that sound? Forgetting that as more people leave, more are also compelled to join if nothing but for the incentives. MCCAIN SURE KNOWS NO EMPATHY FOR THE MILITARY.
Posted by: jayjay | Jul 1, 2008 11:19:18 PM”
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McCain is the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee and subjected himself to years of physical torture in a Vietcong prison when he could have cut in line. I believe that he does have empathy for his colleagus in the military.
McCain introduced a GI Bill that was shot down by Senate democrats in a partisan trick. They then introduced their own GI Bill, which instead of graduating college benefits based on years of service gave full, extensive benefits after one tour. McCain and military leaders knew that this would lead many personnel to quit after a single tour, resulting in the weakening of our forces (democrats knew it as well, as McCain and others said it over and over), and most particularly a significant reduction in the experience of our forces. Many more people would opt out after one tour – why not? – and although recruitment might go up, you will be left with a high concentration of inexperienced first-enrollees in uniform. It is in the democrats interests to cause our forces to be overextended in order to cast more blame on the Iraq war. McCain refused to vote for the bill solely on the basis of the provisions that were clearly designed to incentivize quitting the military, and argues that a graduated level of funding based on years of service be in place in order not to emasculate our forces.
McCain’s special concern was in retaining experienced troops in Iraq. Constantly shipping in new, unseasoned troops who spend a long adjustment period learning how to operate in Iraq would not be conducive to stability in Iraq or in our armed forces.
I strongly support excellent benfits for those who serve our country. John McCain has also strongly supported veteran benefits over his years in the senate, and has a long and vocal history of doing so. This GI bill was a political trick specifically designed to be unacceptable to the Pentagon and specifically to John McCain in an election year. It was conceived and enacted just to provide misleading talking points for democrats. Recognizing and incentivizing experienced troops to re-enlist is a good policy.

To keep our government in balance, the congress should be a differnet party, then the president. When congress and the president is the same party, there is trouble. A perfect example is the Iraqi war. During the Clinton years, our country was doing great. Then the Bush years and the republican congress ruined our country. Bottom Line – too much power for one party will hurt our country.

Young American, What about defending ourselves? Maybe we all got hit over the head and don’t think protection of ourselves is neccessary.

McInsane is just that INSANE!!! Now what is the difference between a “fighter pilot” and a mass murderer? Answer: A mass murderer kills far fewer innocent people than a fighter pilot does. McInsane is nothing more than a mass murdering war criminal and has no business running for President. He and those that support him are the slime of this nation!

why hasnt mccain cut charlie loose saying a terriost attack would help him what i mean really saying harm on the american people is no comparison to what clarke said and clarke isnt even on obamas campaign

Obama – why did you put Clark up to this dirty deed. Did you promise him a cabinet position?

Nice TRY , Carter didn’t waste billions on a unnecessary war that has help cripple our economy. and i might add we
all had GAS in our CARS .that we could afford.
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Where were you in the seventies? Born yet or a toddler? Gasoline was rationed and the price had more than doubled. Odd and even days for buying gas and the lines were down the street!
You’re right about one thing though. Carter did absolutely NOTHING to bring our citizens home that were held hostage for 400+ days in Iran.

Gen. Clark has said the same things about McCain when he was campaigning for Hillary and the GOP didn’t say anything, and now that he repeated statements he has said before the McBush camp are trying to link Clark’s comments to Obama’s camp on the same day when Obama had a speech scheduled on patriotism. Someone must be blind or dumb not to see that this is just an effort by the McBush camp to neutralize Obama’s speech effect. They know that when Obama speaks people listen, so I guess they got scared and came up with this tactic !!!

Can anybody tell me what McCain did for the US that other soldiers didnot do? what make him a hero and not the other proud soldiers who came back and those who died?
Mc cain is prtending something that he did not own.

hey MIGUEL
true very true i couldnt agree with you more looks like someone here has brains

miguel – Sure, when Obama speaks with a teleprompter people listen. Take away the teleprompter, and watch how fast he sticks his foot in his mouth. If he’s so good, why is he now backing out of town hall debates after he said he would be happy to debate McCain anytime and anyplace? Absolute lying politician if ever there was one. Remeber Miguel, this is suppposed to be the new kind of politics candidate. What happened? Breaks promises, discriminates against Muslims, throws men of God under the bus, along with a host of others. Wasnt he supposed to be above that? Who are you kidding vato?

Hey Miguel,
The only problem with your facts is they are not facts. Wesley Clark never supported Hillary Clinton and did not campaign with her. Hey, but you Obama zombies keep making stuff up, I’m sure you can get other zombies to believe you.
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Obama, I was for Jeremiah Wright before I was against him — I was for my grandma before I was against it — I was against the war before I was for it — I was for public financing before I was against it — I was against politics as usual before I was for it.

Another OBAMA tactic, have Clark say something so stupid (still can’t believe he said this) and then OBAMA LOOKS GOOD BY distancing himself.

Not only should Obama not “cut him loose,” he should never have even “repudiated” him. Clark said absolutely nothing wrong. NOTHING. This fake “shock” is getting really idiotic. Everybody just grow up and let’s be a country worth fighting for again.

Miguel…SPEECH EFFECT??? You mean his BS promises and his pausing every 2 seconds to make sure he doesn’t stutter. Take away his teleprompter and speechwriters and he is nothing but a junior senator. You’ve all been brainwashed to think this man is qualified to be president. He is a joke.
McCain ’08

How was Gen.Clark questioning McCain’s patriotism? He questioned whether the type of war experience McCain has was the kind that makes a good president (for example, Eisenhower). This comment is valid and has absolutely nothing to do with patriotism.
Because the media doesn’t have much to report on these days, they make a fuss and ruffle the feathers of a bunch of you half-literate American retards who can’t follow a simple logic train.

Good stuff Badger1! Truer words have never been spoken.

Clark said nothing wrong! That is why he went nowhere for president bit in 2004. Now he first worked for Hillary, then he is working for Obama. What is he, called a general or a cheap man?

Lets quit with the games people. We all know what Clark was trying to do, and we all know that Obamas camp knew exactly what Clark was going to say, and insinuate. Problem is, Clark actually highlighted Obamas lack of experience , and credentials far more than he did McCains. If McCains military, and decades of public service insnt worthy, then ther is no way a jr senator with 20 years experience in black liberation theology is qualified to be our President.

Badger1 – Obama isn’t any more “far left” than Clinton was. Their positions were extremely similar and if anything Clinton was MORE progressive than Obama on some issues. Those of us who actually DO pay attention to details are able to ignore your fantasies.

McCain is in Columbia with lobbyist Charlie Black. He dares suggest Obama denouce Wesley Clark’s very legit statement while he’s on a Nafta junket with a lobbyist for that country’s government who works on his campaign. Only The New York TImes dared question it. ABC got the ‘faith based’ story only half right, deliberately omitting the ‘separation of church and state’ part of Obama’s speech.
And McCain, just being in the military does not qualify you for president of the United States.
Get over yourself. You’re no straight talker. You’re just an adulterer who married a trophy wife with money.

How was Gen.Clark questioning McCain’s patriotism? He questioned whether the type of war experience McCain has was the kind that makes a good president (for example, Eisenhower). This comment is valid and has absolutely nothing to do with patriotism.
Posted by: Nicknick | Jul 2, 2008 12:16:50 AM

Hey Lenny,
Is that anyway to treat an American Woman?

I am one of those people trying to make up my mind about who to vote for. With the hate I see on here from the left (Dems) it seems that they are a little off their rocker, I think both of these guys have good and bad points but why does it have to be so much hate. Bush has not done everything right but one thing he has done is kept us from being attached again. Which one of these two guys will be able to do that?? Your guess is as good as mine. McCain has the military experience but will he do it are will he become one of those polical correct people who is afraid to really fight to win (he might he might not) Obama is a fresh face but can’t see any thing he has done so he is a unkown but has said some things that make me think he might be the one. Now someone please give me a reason why I should vote for either. I am not looking for hate just some good solid reasons. Any body got any real reasons??? Well lets see.

first of all RYAN i am not a democrat i am an independent other than john mccain war service how do you feel he is qualified

25 YEARS IN CONGRESS ANGIE!!! And thanks for answering my question with a question. It’s easy to see you’re an Obama supporter. You NEVER answer the tough questions. So answer mine.

I am voting for McCain because he reaches out to all Americans. He has experience at a time of need. He is wise in his efforts to lead people to a better way of life. He also understands the American Constitution which I think is critical for a President of the USA. I approve of his voting record. He remains current on issues.

Come on ANGIE, answer the question. Your candidate is a FAKE. He is nothing but a good speaker and to be honest if it wasn’t for a teleprompter and speechwriters he wouldn’t even have that going for him. You’ve been brainwashed ANGIE.

Why are all of Obama’s associates and friends either in jail, racists, anti-american or mis-speaking? Obama, doesn’t know anything about this. What an empty suit.
Posted by: Jerry in FL | Jul 1, 2008 10:14:30 PM
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I get it, you’re saying we are paying $5 a gallon for gas because Bush/Cheney both oil men invaded Iraq reducing the flow of oil which create the high prices.

HEY RYAN
and in john mccains 25 years of senate he has spent 7 of those years agreeing with bush and his vetos and his opposing and supporting as far as obama 4 years as senate he has oppsosed bush supports and opposed bushs vetos obama cant help it john mccain has 30 something years on him sorry but i will take the 4 years of senate over the 25 and the last 7 of just supporting everything bush supports!!

Obama supporters can NEVER tell me how he is qualified because he ISN’T!!!
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The only constitutional qualification is 35 years of age or older and getting 270 electoral votes or more. Simple enough or is that beyond your level of understanding?

ANGIE, you keep proving my point. YOU CAN’T ANSWER THE QUESTION. YOU’RE PATHETIC!!! All you can do is say McCain=Bush, McCain=Bush.
Another thing, even if you take those seven years out of the equation McCain still has 15 YEARS more experience than Obama. You have NO points Angie!

Ryan – People are well aware of McCain’s service in Congress. He is practically an institution there. Just because people don’t mention it in every sentence doesn’t mean the are not aware.
Clark didn’t say that McCain didn’t have other qualifications. He was just speaking to the one issue; and he was responding to a specific quation by the reporter, ABOUT McCain being shot down.

People are aware of the question Clark was responding to, aren’t they?
“SCHIEFFER: Can I just interrupt you? I have to say, Barack Obama hasn’t had any of these experiences either, nor has he ridden in a fighter plane and gotten shot down.
CLARK: I don’t think getting in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to become president.”
A direct answer, to a direct question, and perfectly true.
What was wrong with this again?

hey jock98015,
You say that both of Barack Obama’s daughters are from two different fathers due to affairs that Michelle Obama had while she was married to Barack Obama. I was just wondering if you have taken your meds today because if you already have, please inform your psychiatrist that you are having delusions and that your meds are not working. If you have not taken your meds, then run as quickly as you can and take your meds, because you experiencing withdrawals and are hallucinating. Maybe after you have done what it takes to get you back to a normal state of consciousness and reality, you may realize that you and everybody else knows you have fabricated information through your clouded delusional mind. Get a serious grip!!!!

Badger1 – Yes, McCain has more experience than Obama. Obviously.

pdyoung – That wasn’t me. Look at the names. That was some jerk pretending to be me and talking trash to try and embarrass me. I’m not embarrassed, because it wasn’t me, but I was a little upset about it.

JOCK!!! WHAT DID SCHIEFFER INTERRUPT??? You’ve taken this out of context. There was more to this conversation then you’re typing.

Angie – McCain has far more experience than Obama , in almost every realm of life, politically, militarily, and privately. Obamas only experience beisdes being a jr senator was as a community organizer in south chicago. McCain has international, and domestic experience. Obama has none. McCain has gone against his party on many big issues. Obama has the most liberal voting record in the senate. Angie, in all seriousness, if your are watching MSNBC, or CNN you ar enot getting the dirt on Obama,. They are so in the tank for him its pathetic. They dont even feature pundits from both sides of the isle anymore while discussing him. They bring in nothing but left idelogues, where as FOX actually brings in people from both sides to debate the pros and cons. Meet The Press last Sunday had to Democrtats instead of a repub, and Dem. This is because they know that the Repubs have very legitimate arguments against Obama, and can cite many of his recent flip flops, broken promises, and his chuch that the liberal media has too quickly dismissed.
Posted by: Badger1 | Jul 2, 2008 12:50:05 AM
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Your argument might carry some weight if only experience mattered. Keep in mind that the Bush brain trust of Cheney, Rumsfeld and others had decades of experience but what is the results? Iraq war, strained broken military, the most debt in the history of the planet/world, mishandling of hurricane katrina rescue efforts, firing of multiple U.S. Attoneys for politican reasons, the outing of a undercover CIA agent Valerie Plame. Do I need to go on?
In other words you are saying that Mccain or seniors are better drivers than Obama or middle gae people simply because they been driving longer thus more experience. Give me a break!

Clark has done so much less than the swiftboaters. Interesting how republicans get soooo fiesty when the chickens come home to roost. no wonder they freaked about wright’s sermon. Not that any of them listened to the whole thing, but it basically warned America to be good and honest and stick to it’s moral compass because when you don’t, youre chickens come home to roost. it was actually a good sermon and i’m a ROmney supporter. Republicans could certainly learn something from it.

Merri, that is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. By the way Obama won’t get 270 or more.
If every Obama supporter is as naive as you you’re all in a lot of trouble. You sound like a complete moron.
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Yeah, I know most repugnicans including your fearless leader Bush thinks the constitution is stupid.

What’s the problem? aren’t our troops fighting for among other things freedom of speech? What Clark said is the truth, be it McCain or Clark. Being in the service does not make you fit to be commander in chief, It might help but there are many other things involved, such as putting Americans first, last and always. If Obama throws Clark under the buss like he did his little old grandmother, then Obama needs to be thrown under the buss. FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF TRUTH.

McCain graduated the very bottom of his class. 4th from last. Which tells me he got in through the back door and shoudl never have been there in the first place. He never made it to admiral and of what he wanted to accomplish, so he says, in teh senate, he actually did very little. Kennedy is a far more successful senator as far as getting actual legislation written and passed. McCain not only voted for the Iraq war, he endorses hundreds of years of war. that works well with the arabs who are in it for a few hundred as well, however, in about two we will have the bottom fall out of our economy. The ecomoy, oh yeah, that thing McCain says is “not his strong point” and “I dont know who wallstreet works”..McCain’s words. I am a romney fan, however, now I must vote for Obama. there is simply no choice.

Hey Miguel,
The only problem with your facts is they are not facts. Wesley Clark never supported Hillary Clinton and did not campaign with her. Hey, but you Obama zombies keep making stuff up, I’m sure you can get other zombies to believe you.
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Obama, I was for Jeremiah Wright before I was against him — I was for my grandma before I was against it — I was against the war before I was for it — I was for public financing before I was against it — I was against politics as usual before I was for it.
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Everybody know Clark supported Hillary Clinton. However, like most repugnicans you’re pulling non facts out your anal cavity.
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/12725

OK, All this “experience”. Obama is running the most successful campaign ever. McSame is truthfully running one of the worst. This is true. Now the best this guy can do is to try to tell Obama what he should or should not do??? Another example, Obama speaks to 1000′s at this events. The best McSame can get together is a few 100 at a time. So McSame says it’s wrong for Obama not to step down to his “Town Hall” level??? Is this the way McSame would run the Country if elected??
LOL

Obama has said that he not only wnats to end the Iraq war, but he wants to end the mindset that got us into that war in the first place. That means a great deal to me after witnessing the nightmare of the last 6 years.

JESS, you don’t know what you’re talking about!!! McCain was offered a rear admiralship and he turned it down to run for Congress. He said he could do more good there. As far as that “100 years” comment you’re full of BS too. He was taken out of context. He said as long as American servicemen and women weren’t getting hurt he wouldn’t mind being in Iraq for 100 years. Kind of like Germany (67 years) Korea (58) Japan (63) You wouldn’t know about that would you. You’ve been brainwashed little girl.

Merri, BE QUIET. You’re making no points. You know damn well when somebody is talking about being qualified for president they’re not talking about the electoral college or the age requirement.

Ryan – Yes, but American servicemen and women ARE getting killed, and apparently will be for the foreseeable future. So how many years does McCain want THAT to go on?

I like JOck’s comments. in fact, so many forget the when Muslim fundamentalist extremists stormed the embassy in Iran and took our hostages they threated to kill them if we didnt’ hand over the shah. we didn’t. Yet they didn’t kill them. Why? They had plenty of threats but never went through with them. why? there was a reason. it was Carter. he worked tirelessly behind teh scenes with many arab leaders and it worked. A year later not ONE was killed or even harmed. What would bush had done? McCain? Threatened, stormed, they would have been beheaded, as ALL our hostages in bush’s reign have been. Carter had a way of making people, particularly difficult people to work with, arabs, to do what he wanted. he had that talent. he brought peace between egypt and israel. Just because an acomplishment is a peaceful one does notmake less HUGE and when something DOESN”T HAPPEN (no hostages getting killed) doesn’t make it less HUGE. sure, if they all got killed and war broke out and we invaded it would have been understandable, but it didn’t. it didn’t need to And you can thank Carter for that.

They are Jock but McCain only said he would support “100 years” if they weren’t. I believe recently he wanted to be nearly out of Iraq by 2012. If we continued to get hurt then obviously McCain would not want to be there for long.

Ryan, we have only two choices. One is a horrid horrid choice. the other is a very intelligent guy who has not much experience but is very intelligent and sees a MUCH bigger picture than anyone runnign for president since JFK. Obama is the type of doesn’t jsut follow rules of engagement, which is why we didn’t have WWIII during the cuban missle crises. I like what he says. He’s is far far more intelligent than McCaIn. I am NOT going to vote for someone who graduated teh BOTTOM of his class and in his LONG life has had so little success at anythign he’s done. at least if you vote the smart young guy you have a chance. we already know McCain. It’s IS like knowing bush and his dismal pre-presidency record. You could ONLY expect failure if you elect McCain. with Obama there is a very good chance we’ll see something remarkable.

HEY RYAN
we can see your upset here because your granpa mccain and your party in which john mccain is the laughing stock of is going to LOSE understand LOSE but dont worry you will come to like president obama once you see how great he will be and how great he will make this country

Hey, if you’re a republican too bad for you. YOu had your chance to put ROmney up but your religious weirdo side couldn’t handle a financial genius becuase he wasn’t their brand of cult. Stupid. stupid. stupid. Republicans are like children looking for action super heros in their candidates who should have qualifications more like a CEO. You COULD have been on here bragging about the superior stellar experience of your candidate, but no, you put the dumb guy who graduated 4th from LAST in his class and didn’t even make Admiral never mind General. great choice. when he looses, blame yourself. good night.

Wow Jess, I re-read your comment about Carter. You have no idea how bad of a president Carter was. You’re a naive little girl and children like you scare me to death. Our country is in the hands of people like YOU!?! This is disgusting.
BTW, who taught you that crap about Carter saving the hostages. Do you know that they weren’t even released until Reagan was sworn in??? Probably not, you get your history lesson from Howard Dean. Carter was a disgrace, ask anybody that was around for him.

What is this I hear? Those in the military giving more money to Obama? How DARE they belittle McCain’s service! This must have been a coordinated attack between Qbama, Webb, Clark, Ulysses S. Grant, Dwight Eisenhower and others! Obama getting more military support! How sweet it is!

uhh, yeahhh, the shah was in our country getting medical treatment when the embassy was stormed and their conditiosn were that we give him back. We never did. We never attacked Iran. Period. Sending in commados to try to extract them is not the same as bombing or attacking them or invading them. We never sent in invasion troops, we tried to do an extraction. BIG DIFFERENCE. We INVADED iraq for NO REASON yet we had ample reason to Invade Iran yet carter did not need to, did he? ALL the hostages were alive at election time, weren’t they? Not ONE harmed. and Carter DID broker peace between Israel and Eypt didn’t he??? the ONLY american president to broker peace between an arab country and Israel, correct???

I am impressed that Obama has his goons, do his dirty work. Clark is another kool-aid follower wanting a appointment, if Obama get elected. Sorry Clark, your asking the wrong man.
Posted by: Milt in PA | Jul 1, 2008 11:32:42 PM
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Charlie Black, Karl Rove and Bud Day, proud members of McCain’s goon squad.

Look assholes my whole point was that McCain’s “100 years” comment was taken out of context. Don’t turn this into a discussion on the Iraq war. I’ll say one thing on that.
If we retreat and the terrorists take it back over and we have to go back a lot more blood will be spilled. Iraq is improving greatly since the surge and even the liberal newsmedia is admitting it.

Ryan, you doofus, why were the hostages even ALIVE when the electino happened??? how has bush done with our hostages taken by the same type of folks??? oh, ALL of them have been killed! WHY WERE TEH HOSTAGE EVEN ALIVE???? WHY??? answer that question??? I know far more about this event than you do! What arab leaders was Carter pressuring to pressure the Iranians to not follow through on their threats to start killing hostages?? which arab leaders were on our side? which ones were teling Iran to knock it off and release them??? what do YOU know about what was happening? The muslims were so TICKED at how alienated they were, how they got NOTHING, not ONE demand met and how they were basically made fools of, NONE of the arab countries supported them publically, NONE of the arab countries woudl help them, trade was being cut off, aide was being cut, their one condition in finally releasing the hostages was that it NOT be on carter’s watch because humilated them. THey made all that show, all those threats and in the end, they released teh hostages and got NOTHING. how embarressing. You know NOTHING of what really happened. You are one of those bumble heads who think war is the answer to everything. war was not declared, therefore, nothign happened, huh??? gee, for nothing to happen the results sure turned out pretty damn good, huh?? they shoudl have been as good for Daniel Pearle.

RYAN
did john mccai say its not important when the troops come home the important thing their not in harms way WELL WHAT AN IDIOT JOHN MCCAIN IS ITS A WAR THEIR IN HARMS WAY NO WONDER HE GRADUATED LAST HES AN IDIOT

Carter was the one who brokered the Iranian hostages release. Iran waited until Reagan was sworn in and then released the hostages. Reagan had nothing to do with it – it was all Carter’s work. I remember sitting up with millions of other Americans on an all night vigil waiting to hear the news that the hostages had been released – get your history straight Ryan – you were not even born then!

Ryan, he GOT ALL THE HOSTAGES RELEASED ALIVE!!! that was his GOAL! How is he a coward??? if he invaded he would not have died. It wasn’t a good solution. period. You are thick thick skulled. EVERY historian i have ever read agrees on this. Not one demand was met and EVERY hostage was out alive. not on his term, but that was very much done to spite him. He didn’t want a long drawn out war with a country who’s landscape is very much like afghanistan though much bigger and knew the complexities of how logn and drawn out a war would be, nevermind that IRan balanced Iraq. carter got what he wanted. Carter brokered peace between egypt and Israel. NO PRESDIENT since Israel’s creation has been able to equal that. I dont know who you think you are saying nobody recognizes carter’s accomplishments. while inflation and the gas crises are his vices, his diplomacy has been praised for a long long long time.

Hey jess, so if the hostages were only held for the shah then why didn’t they let them go after the shah left the U.S. a month later??? FYI the hostages were held for 14 months.

clarity – what is even funnier is Clark is not one of Obama’s surrogates – a surrogate works for a campaign – Clark does not work for Obama’s campaign. Clark is out there all on his own – just telling it like it is….sweeeeeet!

Thank you, sandy! A sane voice! I’m a romney supporter but geez, get a clue on history, Ryan. goodnight.

btw, McCain’s finish at Annapolis? Hey buddy, how many times have you been appointed to the Naval Academy? The demands of the military academies make every other school of higher learning look like Romper Room.

Now who’s naive, Sandy? Do you seriously think that Clark woke up on Sunday morning and said I’m going to rain on McCain’s patriotism this close to July 4th.
The stretch that people will make to believe is amazing.

Ryan – The shah in America was the original trigger for the embassy takeover by the students, but then the students and Iranian government had to go through a long fight over how they were going to exploit the situation. One thing they agreed on was that they hated Carter – the Shah dying didn’t change that. That seems to be the main reason that they held the hostages until the inauguration. Even tough Carter helped negotiate the release, they were not going to let him gain anything out of it.

Having lived through the Carter Administration, I can also tell you the exact moment when the terrorists took over the embassy. It was the week that the Shah of Iran was allowed into the country for cancer treatments against the wishes of everyone in Carter’s cabinet. But Jimmy wouldn’t hear of it, oh no, and so plunged the US into 444 days of hell.
Let us never endure an administration as vacuous as President Carter’s.

spidey – rewrite history much?

Well, Clark was saying much the same thing back when he was a Clinton supporter, so it couldn’t have very much to do with Obama.

And do not let Ryan fool you – he is a regular blogger here – 25 years old – born 1983…thinks at 25 he has the world by the tail….he doesn’t…

Sandy: You forgot #11: Knows how to use the internet. I don’t believe McCain knows even how to turn on a computer. How can McCain understand our society and all it’s problems today when cannot understand (or at least use) the technology.

spidey – Carter’s decision to let the shah in for treatment was a purely humanitarian one. Whether or not it was the right decision can be argued, but it was done in good conscience. And know one could have anticipated the hostage crisis. The Iranians didn’t even anticipate it.

Ryan: Usually it is tne No Obama’s that talk about every negative(imagined or misinformed)with out any real facts. The fact of the matter is I am voting for Obama because of his tax proposal. And before you say he is raising all our taxes (that is a rep answer) All ours is actually only the top 1% income. Now, There is a great article in the wall street journal about 2 weeks ago that compare what both tax proposals will do(not slanted either way) and CNN Money had a great article a couple of days ago. I know McCain will not help this country. With all his Flipflops (like on Oil drilling) I am begining to wonder who is really controlling his campaign and him. But his tax cut will not really help the low to mid income, but the more money you make the more tax cut you will get. As for lowering corp. taxes, the trickle down effect has been proven NOT to work. I don’t want to hope that if a corp gets a break that they just wont use it to give themselves raises.

Sandy: Did you know it is a proven fact that young adults do not make good decisions until there are in their late 20′s. Give Ryan a few more years. He might mature yet!!

Jock, thank you for the comment. Yes, I do agree that it was a humanitarian gesture by Carter. However, there have been many times when a President needs to take off the hat of a humanitarian and do things that are the best for the country, even when it may be in conflict with personal beliefs.
The difficulty of the time was that Iran was sitting on a powder keg. The Ayatollah was taking over a country that had massive inflation and unemployment in what is arguably the most educated arab country in the world. By setting himself up as Supreme Ruler and establishing a strict regime of Islamic law he was brewing a very bad mix. Something was going to blow.
Could he possibly know that they were going to take over the embassy? No. However all the arrows pointed in the wrong way, and his advisors to a man told him don’t allow the Shah in the country.
Thanks for the comments. Would share a beer with you anytime.

Wilder, so what are you going to do, established Sharia law in the United States and not allow anyone who doesn’t agree with you to talk?
That’s crazy brother. We have a first amendment right, remember? Or is that one of those nasty ones you wish would go away?

Iam4thiscountry, I hear you brother. It’s going to be a real whopper of an election, and I’ve seen plenty. I guess it won’t be as bad as when Andrew Jackson’s wife was accused of adultry, but it might come close.
And no, I didn’t vote in that election. :)

spidey – he tries…he tries,,,,he is just not being very sucessful at it.

Sandy: Thanks. I understand. I may be old but I am not slow (at least yet)

Iam4thiscountry – you are right – now when I think about it, the visual is pretty frightening – I think his horses may be great prancers, however….but the point being McCain needs more to prance about then his military record…I have done a great deal of research on McCain’s militay background – lots of unsavory stuff in it – does help to have a daddy and a granddaddy to clean up after you…

Iam4thiscountry – same here – the first presidential campaign I worked for was JFK’s – there has never been another candidate like him until Senator Obama. I am very fortunate to see two such fantastic leaders in my lifetime.

HE ISN’T GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING!!! You’ve all been brainwashed into thinking that this man is some type of savior. Like he can just wave his magic wand and make all our problems go away.
This is what is wrong with the democrats, they live in a fairy tale land. Rational people would say they are naive.

Im getting kind of tired of reading posts deriding McCain’s military record, why dont we turn to Obama’s for a while?

Ryan, Jo is here to help you put the Obamabots back in the sandbox.

Sandy, were you aware that JFK was probably not even going to get reelected?
That’s why he was in Dallas in the first place. He was trying to win over Texans.
Geeze, you people live in neverneverland.
Actually the truth is more like…..there hasn’t been a candidate like Obama since…..Jimmy Carter.
So uh, no thanks.

Actually Obama is NOT about change.
The one area where he could have proven he was above politics and the same old stuff was when he agreed with McCain for public campaign financing.
As soon as he saw he could make big money the other way, he jumped on it.
Obama is just like the rest of them. So no thanks. I’ll vote for the one who has experience and doesn’t hang out with terrorists and racist, hateful preachers.

JO: why should he talk public financing. McCain does not have a leg to stand on. he took public financing for the primary and then used that money he was going to be getting as collateral for a loan. Then, once he got the loan, he backed out of Public Financing. He was told he could not do that and literal thumbed his nose at the board. Why has nothing been done. because they board has several vacancies and once they are filled and go after McCain he is going to say it is unconstitutional. I would not trust McCain to keep his word about taking Public financing. Also, because Public financing does not kick in till the conventions. McCain will have 1 more week to collect money under his primary campaign than Obama and I less week to spend his public financing.

Have you ever read the Geneva Convention Accords?Unfortunately, the detainees do not fit the description as POWs. The detainees are also not Freedom Fighters either. Therefore, the Geneva Convention Accords do NOT apply for the detainees whatsoever.

whyareweafraidofdiscourse – Obama is a master chess player – he makes no play without a strategy behind it and remember – Clark is not one of Obama’s surrogates – he is all on his own out there and doing a d**n good job – so there is no need for Obama to respond any other way than the way he did – note Obama did not throw a hissy-fit over Charlie Black’s comments like McCain has over Clark’s – like I said master chess player and Obama knows when to pick his fights.

The good thing about what Clarke said is that if McCain is not qualified to be president…
then Obama is EVEN LESS qualified.
Good to know. Point taken. Voting for McCain.

Funny how military experience was what General Clark ran on when HE ran for president!
Lol.

In order to be a surrogate one has to work for and be paid as a campaign worker. Clark is not a paid worker, therefore not a surrogate.

Iam4thiscountry,
Oh really? Well Obama doesn’t agree with you. He threw Clarke under the bus.
It’s getting awfully crowded under that bus.

Jo,
When I go to church I walk out after an hour or so. This certainly isn’t the same as total control 24-7 for over half a decade by people that have studied, used and perfected mind control techniques. I hope it didn’t take on McCain. Because of the status of his father it was ceratinly tried. It might not be fair to McCain but there is risk.

Jo: Obama did not throw Clark under the bus this is a quote from Obama “I’m happy to have all sorts of conversations about how we deal with Iraq and what happens with Iran but the fact that somebody on a cable show or on a news show like General Clark said something that was in artful about Sen. McCain I don’t think is probably the thing that is keeping Ohioans up at night.”
He also said that the speach he gave yesterday was written 2 months ago. So how is that throwing him under the bus?

Wilder, we didn’t even go to war until March 20th! Why are you bringing up comments made before the war??

Poor Obama. Back to the drawing board. I’m sure he was going to announce Wesley Clark as a major cabinet member (or VP) in the next month or so.
Ouch!

McCain has spent the last eight years kissing George W. Bush’s behind at high noon while the parade is going by. Bush took McCain’s pecker and put it in his pocket a long time ago. McCain is now a weenie.

“70 is not old and if you think it is, then you need to throw out a ton of your democrat senators and congressmen.
Nice try though.
It’s McCain’s time and he deserves it.”
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Gladly!!!!! I’ll throw in a Pelosi for your Boehner………. :-)
Let’s get rid of all the morons….

If McCain wants to call for Obama to cut Clark loose, fine. Applying the same standard, will McCain cut Charlie Black loose for saying that a terrorist attack on the US would be a “big advantage” to McCain? Why is this man still on McCain’s staff?
The reality here is that McCain’s camp have been desperate to keep this item in the news for as long as possible because they know it plays well with Joe Public. But they have over-reached by calling for Clark’s head as they will now have to sack Black or rightly be labelled hypocrites.

It sounds about right to me Artie, well except the comment about Hilliary–Hilliary atleast is really intelligent and can speak with or without a teleprompter———Obama is a complete puppet.

Artie,
“Obama is Clinton without the women.”
She is a heck of a lot more intelligent than the sock puppet. She can think on her feet and doesn’t need to ask somebody what to say first. I don’t like McCain but he sure has done more than Obama could ever dream of.
I guess being a community organizer, a state senator for a few years and as US Senator who has been in there roughly 140 some days qualifies you to be President?
I think I will vote “present” in this election.

Why is it that everytime someone tells the truth, it has to be fired. Wake up people!!!

There was nothing wrong with Clark’s comments. He didn’t attack McCain’s service in any way; he challenged the premise that McCain’s service qualifies as executive experience.
What kind of questions are voters allowed to ask about McCain’s qualifications? If McCain wants to claim that his time as a POW makes him a concert pianist or a brain surgeon, are any of us allowed to disagree without being eviserated for “attacking his service”?
McCains tantrum’s are growing in absurdity because the corporate media has so shamelessly enabled them. It’s time for both to grow the hell up.

Posted by: X marks the spot
Thanks for pointing that out…lol

I’m glad you’re no longer a Dem…..You probably never were….

Obama is just jealous that McCain has military experience and Obama doesn’t. This Clark/Obama thing is nothing but a cheap shot from idiots. Send Obama back—-most people are better qualified and smarter than he is.

No one attacked McCain, however an important fact was brought out. Does McCain qualify to be president of the US just for serving in the war? This is very important to you and I. For most people whom work goes to work and do their job that they are assigned too. Does this qualify you to be president of the company you work for? McCain went to class drunk and he was a party person, he was a careless youth, honestly how hard do you think he will work for you now?

Losers. This is the stuff that will ensure a McCain LANDSLIDE and you dopes have no idea why. lol.

I am starting to wonder whose campaign McCain is running his or Obama’s. Every time you turn around McCain is telling Obama who he should hire and fire and the conduct of the debate forum and well, just about everything. Maybe if McCain gave as much attention to his own campaign and stopped worrying so much about Obama his weak nearly unrecognizable campaign might prevent further attrition, just a thought Mr. McCain, just a thought. END THE WAR IN IRAQ.

If anyone looks at MCBush campaign from 2000 you will see he is an obvious flip flopper or suffering from alzheimers.
It’s known that the Viet Cong broke MCcain mentally, and as a result, he seems suffering from serious mental deficit knowns as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
aside from PTS, one has to wonder what effect the torture had on his mind.
It’s not that his temper gets the best of him, he’s mentally disturbed and time after time, has made
statements that suggest he’s either confused, unaware of the reality of the situation, or true lier.
If McCain’s experience could not help him vote against the Iraq war, how will it help him make America safer and better by conytinuing failed Bush policy?
These are serious troubling issues for a president
No MCBush = No more War
McClueless, MCold, MC stupid, gotta love McFlipFlopper, This guy is true lier and clueless about Iraq war.
American people are not stupid, to give MCBush failed policy & US occupation of Iraq another four years to let him
figure out that Iran and Iraq did not have anything to do with 9/11, Alquida in Iraq is outcome of US occupation.
MCstupid has to listen to Irqi lawmakers that are saying US occupation is fueling insurgency and they can take care of their country.
http://www.reuters.com/article/featuredCrisis/idUSN04304912

Hey ya all. Go to CNN Political ticker. McCain announced today his senior advisor is taking over the day to day running of the campaign. Sweet!

McCain has a “senior” advisor!? Who is he, Methuselah? I’m sorry. I try to be good. I really do.

In all seriousness, John McCain could not be more of an American hero. But I have yet to see anyone state how his military service and Vietnam experience has added to his qualifications to be president. If anything you would think that he would now see the need for diplomacy whereever possible but he is unwilling to do so. If we can talk to Iran and Syria and save people from being killed AND have a positive outcome, is it not worth it? But he has stated that this is a sign of inexperience and weakness. Huh!? Nixon talked to China after they backed the North Vietnamese and Vietcong. Reagan talked to the Soviets when they had thousands of nuclear warheads pointed at us. And it seems his supporters attack Obama and Clark but I have yet to see anyone give a reason how his service adds to his leadership qualifications.

Why is it that so many Republican Presidential wives seem to have drug problems? Ford, Reagan, McCain? And what is Bush’s wife on, it has to be something strong to keep that Stepford wife expression permanently on her face.
Isn’t stealing prescription drugs in the amounts Cindy McCain did a felony? Republican First Ladies with drug or alcohol problems isn’t anything new, in fact it seems to be the standard.
Obama, unlike Bush, at least admits to past drug use, if he had been busted with cocaine back in his early 20′s he’d be lucky if he was out of prison by now, but he wasn’t, then their’s Limbaugh.

angie:
Either you or Miguel would be hard
pressed to prove you “have brains”!
Is Obama playing the “I didn’t serve and I’m proud of it card”?
Well at least he’s not a Draft Dodger
like Bill Clinton!

Let’s all talk about this and maybe nobody will notice that BO has no qualifications whatsoever to run the country. Since when do we allow on the job training for the highest office in the land. It’s the most outlandish thing ever.
Posted by: danni | Jul 1, 2008 10:08:09 PM
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Danni, list what you think are the qualifications to be POTUS. I’m guessing you and your rupugnican crew can’t.

McCain went to class drunk and he was a party person, he was a careless youth, honestly how hard do you think he will work for you now?
Posted by: Ranger01 | Jul 2, 2008 11:25:25 AM
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Mccain is more like Bush than I thought.