McCain’s Temper Tantrum Tawdriness

Until you know what provoked McCain, you don’t know if it was worth the risk. It does sound like Cochran was being spineless. Men who are that afraid shouldn’t be in a room full of guerillas with guns and a guy who isn’t afraid of them.

People who can’t control their temper are dangerous to have in a position of power. I think of McCain with his trigger finger on the infamous “go” button on the red phone in the white house. Sends chills up and down my spine. Not good folks, not good. He’ll easily get us involved in another war for sure.

finally, a man running for president and not a femme like obama. 3 cheers for mccain

makes “bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran”
a little scarier.

Buttermilk McCain’s temper really doesn’t matter since he’s going to be blown out anyway in the General Election.
Suffice to say, he only has a few more years left in the Senate anyways. (2-4 Max) and then it’s off to shooing teenagers off of one of his wife’s foreclosed properties in Cali.
OBAMA 08 FOR 08

Has McCain been named president of Columbia, yet? Isn’t that what he’s doing done there? We don’t need a “madman” like this to come back to the States.

carrie….”is this supposed to turn me off of McCain?”
No, it’s supposed to show that he is an erratic hothead who can’t control his temper and is completely wrong to be president.

This article has not changed my stance.
——————————-
Expect a better tomorrow,
Vote McCain.

AND THE SHEEP SAY….
OBAAAAMA!, OBAAAAMA!, OBAAAMA!!!
Lead us to the Lions Den!

There have been a number of Republicans that have mentioned John McCain’s temper. Bob Dole is one of them. This incident was 21 years ago and John McCain has been known to be a Maverick and proved himself to be a very good Senator. I refuse to let this story keep me from recognizing all the great things he has done for this country.

McCain is a dangerous man folks..the last thing we need is this John Wayne wanna be blowing his temper causing another war we can not afford right now. Start building your bomb shelters folks I can assure you John ‘wayne’ McCain all ready has.

Jason,
It doesn’t matter if you vote for McCain, Nader, Barr or Paul. All have a snowball’s chance in a dry sauna of becoming POTUS.
See you at the inauguration SWEETIE.
OBAMA 08

“I can’t imagine an old, murkily recalled confrontation being a major factor in this campaign.”
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Unless of course someone continues to publish unsubstantiated rumors and statements about, alleged 20 year old happenings, from “legislative enemies”
How about some bs coverage of the other candidates foibles, Crack, Ayers, Rezeiko, Wright and the success of street organizing, or simply drill down into the truth of Obamas current ads
New type politics my arse

“Men who go into diplomatic meetings should be in control of their temper…don’t ya think?”
Sure dl, and sometimes with some people grabbing them by the collar is as diplomatic as it should get. The Sandanistas weren’t exactly Washington bureaucrats.
I mean we don’t know what was said or if the action got the right reaction. Reagan was also known to take a nasty turn when confronted. LBJ was legendary for it.
This story is just another Spy vs Spy spin of the newscycle. Obama is looking floppy so it’t time to make McCain look droopy and so on and so forth through the looney tunes. Not a big deal.
I’m interested in what’s being said during this trek through our neighbors to the south. Remember McCain is a Senator and there are deals in the works. Whatsup?

To be fair, I think Rick left out some salient points from the Sun-Herald article:
“Cochran, who was in South Mississippi this week, said he supports McCain, who has turned into the best presidential candidate he could have imagined. Now McCain is levelheaded, Cochran said.
He believes McCain, who he described as courageous, hard-working and better equipped to handle the nation’s current challenges, is a better choice for president than Democrat Barack Obama…”

its maybe one of those “senior moments” or a precursor to dementia…

Mary – 60 years ago McCain would have been 11.

Probably just as well that he doesn’t believe in talking to nations “we don’t like.”
I see that factotums Lieberman and Graham have accompanied him to Columbia. After McCain confused Somalia and Sudan yesterday, I suppose they had to go in case he confused Columbia and Costa Rica.

McCain is not my first choice. Hill was. Obama has not history of anything. He is a pacifist that the terrorist will hold hostage because he does not have the manhood needed to face them. You cannot be nice to them and bargain. We need a real leader.
McCain 08

Sounds like some of you folks really do not know much about McCain’s sordid military history – just buying what MSM feeds you.

dl – I am stating facts. The Senate bill he has coming up is a Global wealth re-distribution. $850B (as in Billion)of your TAX dollars will be sent to other countries that have a high poverty level. Sounds good? Not when I am struggling paycheck to paycheck and not when we have not solved our own poverty problems in this country. Not to mention Gas prices. His priorities are not in our best interest as a country. Plus he has very little experience. It would ne like promoting a Lieutenant to Army Chief of Staff overnight. It would be a disaster.

Reminds me of “Bring ‘em on!”.
Over 4,000 dead and 30,000 wounded US soldiers ago.
*** George W McCain for Senate ’09 ***

Franklin Roosevelt did not have a military background either and he carried this country through a horrific war – admirably in fact. No military experience is a moot argument.

lol its funny how obama supports call mccain out for this. What is wrong with showing a little temper once in a while when dealing with all the idiotic politicians in Washington.
Its also extremely biased how the media continues to bring up trivial issues such as this when they seem to forget about Obama’s associations with:
Bill Ayers – bombed nyc polic dept., u.s. capitol and pentagon. They had dinner parties together
toni rezko – purchasing adjacent lots with rezko on same day, while obama paying less than asking price, this guy helped raise obama millions and just got convicted of 16 counts
Rev Wright – only reason media picked this up was because there was video.

Wesley Clark is the true American – and military service:
Clark has commanding experience – McCain “commanded” a squadron – Clark holds his ground, McCain throws a temper-tantrum. No contest.

In response to Dl’s comments.
I don’t know where u are getting your facts, but we as Americans are the biggest donators in the world, both by government and individuals. No one comes even close. Please do not attack Americas on misinformed facts for their generosity.

dl – I have read Obama’s policies. twice now. He is living in a fantasy world. And if he succeeds that makes us a socialist society. Does any of his supporters ever ask… “Where we gonna get all this cash for these pipe dreams of yours?” Nope all you hear from them is: OBAAAAMA!, OBAAAAMA, OBAAAAMA.
Obama supporters are SHEEP!!!

“Too funny. And McCain is now hiring operatives from the worst presidency in this country’s history. McCain – cannot keep facts straight without Liebermann at his elbow, has temper tantrums like a 2-year old (had another one on his plane yesterday), admits he knows nothing about the economy and denies saying it even though his admission is plastered all over the Internet, does not know world geography or just who is fighting who in Iraq, temper and the red button? No brainer – keep McCain away from that button.
Posted by: sandy | Jul 2, 2008 3:59:19 PM”
Which Carter operatives did McCain hire?

McCain is an idiot and who cares what he said 20 years ago. If people cared about his past, they would surely hold it against him for him more current temper tantrums and his inappropriate and just plain wrong name-calling on his wife. The guy is weird and not a good choice for even a senator

“reat, just great, hair trigger temper handling other leaders with hair trigger conflicts.
I can’t think of why this makes a man tough. We have one cowboy in office, what good did it do us?
Posted by: Genna | Jul 2, 2008 3:16:49 PM”
Uh…no terrorist attacks on US soil since 9/11?
Economic growth (till democrats took the congress and screwed the pooch – just look what they’ve accomplished: 50% rise in the price of gas in less than 2 years. Amazing.)

OBAMA needs to keep FLIPPIDDY FLOPPING…HE’S MAKING IT TO EASY FOR THE 527′S THIS FALL.
DO THE MATH…
VERY LIBERAL – CHICAGO LEGS., SENATE, PRIMARY
“TO THE MIDDLE” – POST-PRIMARY…
GUNS, FAITH-BASED MONEY, WELFARE REFORM, AND I PREDICT HE’LL FLIPPIDDY AGAIN…ON IRAQ…AFTER HIS TRIP THIS SUMMER!!!!

Will we see this course of action used by McCain in, say, the upcoming debates against Obama? That sure would increase ratings…

What America desperatedly need now as potus is an intellegent leader, other people centred ( just as Jesus Christ), respected by not only millions of Americans but billions of others. No-one should argue with this because it is a fact.

Jeff C.
But in the piece McCain doesn’t exactly say it didn’t happen….
“I made many many trips, and had many many meetings with the Sandinistas and other leaders of central America. There is no, nothing ever — I must say I did not admire the Sandinistas very much. . .”
Guess we will need to see or hear the tape to see how the denial was stated.

ENVY…a typical Democrat character…flaw.
WHO CARES WHAT SOMEONE MAKES…as long as they are contributing to our economy and NOT A DRAIN ON IT…LIKE GOVERNMENTS.

Fired Up! – LOL Good one. But just so there is not a mis understanding. I hate the IRAQ War. We need to get out.
I do think we need to finish what we started in Afganistan.
I am a Democrat supporting McCain. Because Obama is not the Messiah like some of the SHEEP think.
I wished I worked at Haliburton. Maybe then I could pay my bills and afford gas.

Come on people…get real. And use your brain if you have one. I don’t know what Mr. Cochran’s motive or agenda is here, but if what he says is true, it would have been all over the international news – “U.S. Senator Assaults Ortega Aid”. You can bet the Sandinistas would have had a field day with that. And Bob Dole would have seen to it that Mr. McCain was on the next flight to anywhere out of Nicaragua. It never happened. There may have been heated words and both men may have been out of their chairs, but there is no way John McCain yanked the other guy up by his shirt.

Sandy – Not one party can be blamed for this. It is partisanship that has caused all of this. Both sides are to blame.
Arent you people sick and tired of the partisan politics in washington? They are not looking out for the countries well being, they are looking out for thier own party and getting re-elected. This has not been about the people for a long time.
McCain and Lieberman have been the Mavericks of thier party. They actually want to get things done. They are not partisan to the extreem like many Republican and Democrats are. They are not afraid to cross the aisle or see things differently than thier party.
They are leaders not followers.
The Jr Senator from Illinois cannot say the same. he is a Liberal Democrat that will tax and spend us to poverty.

You gotta just love it.

resorting to name calling and calling people’s education into question? – conservatives running scared this election – this is our time, our year! GO OBAMA!

21 years ago?
Is this story relevant?
Or, is it politically motivated?

dl
Here we go again. you are mis interpreting the article. You are stating things the article simply did not say. The letter to Obama was written as a warning this IF he does win not WHEN he does win. That he will have consider these items in the relation to his proposed Economic policy.
Are you a Liberal?

and Mcdaddy
we absolutely should be drilling here…
why doesn’t the oil companies drill where they have opportunity already…
adn don’t say there is no oil there…that is a lie.
The oil companies know that GW Bush is leaving this will be there last chance to get a hold of that oil and change federal law so they can go after the most lucrative places for oil.
But most of all
WE HAVE TO GET OFF OF OIL in every way we can.
period
what happens when in 30 to 50 years we may run out and we have not been even close to creating airplanes and energy sources that can run without oil?
this is a resource we have been using for a hundred years and have already tapped out in some countries…
and that was us using it really now multiply that usage by 25…
how long do you think that will last if we just keep opening more places and more places…
if 4$ is our threshold to balance against all the bad stuff that seems to be showing warning signs with our environment and our planet …then we are doomed.
not to mention all out global war AND terrorism in 15 years over the stuff.
yes we drill but we drill where it is available… you know the millions of acres they already own…and they salivate at the shorelines while they make huge profits.
as it is 2/3 to 3/4 of our supply does not come from overseas… and we aren’t using what we already have available because they say it isn’t cost effective
this is the same companies and CEO’s making profit hand over fist with thears of Cheney and Mccain (thank you Mr. Black)

Maybe then I could pay my bills and afford gas.
Posted by: McDaddy | Jul 2, 2008 4:40:46 PM
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You must be joking.
You should come with me to Chrysler St. Louis North Plant and meet all the great folks who worked there for 20+ years and just found out they lost their jobs.
Thanks to NAFTA.
Or come visit me here in Michigan and I can show you all the foreclosed homes in my area. $400,000 homes.
Because of NAFTA.

Wesley Clark is a liar and was a disgrace to this country. You are talking about a General that was forced to resign. I served on his command and battle staff for 2 years and we never so glad to see a the idiot leave. General Shelton Clark forced him out of SACEUR command because of serious, but unspecified, “character and integrity” issues
Give me a break a great hero!

no mcDaddy
you are the one misreading as usual
here is the note forward from Pimco’s site…
“Thought I would jot down this little note to President Obama.
It’s a little presumptive of course; first that he’ll even be President (he will) ”
Yes that is what Bill Gross wrote…
He knows Obama will be President that is why he wrote this to obama…not McCain…duh.
but keep spinning

Sandy:
Please remember that FDR had assistance with policy and direction during his stint as Commander in Chief during WWII from strong foreign leaders of the Allied countries.
In our current war on terror and Operation Iraqi Freedom, most of our allies have either withdrawn their support completely from the effort, or have greatly reduced their troop support during the last five years.
Simply put, there are no Winston Churchills around this time to assist a President with no military background in being our Commander in Chief.

McCain kicks butt! I’d like to see him stand up to Obama like that.

Scott I agree
that Cochran does not like Mccain…
but that aside…I hope this story isn’t true.
If it is (because McCain seems to be saying it isn’t but again he doesn’t really remember)
that is BAD.
so lets hope he remembers at some point.
“I had many many meetings but I don’t remember.”
didn’t we just go through this.

mcdaddy
if McCain gets elected we are goie in a VERY bad way with China.
never mind the view of people’s around the world continuing down the road of “not wanting to buy American” if they can.
the economists are now saying 3 trillion eventually for this war.
and that is if as McCain seems to be focusing…that we don’t go after al quaeda in afghanistan and pakistan…
which would increase that number.

“His brain was altered by drugs administered to him by the Vietcongs for 6 years.”
Steve, the Viet Cong (aka, People’s Liberation Armed Forces or VC) were the guerilla communists in the South organized by the North Vietnamese (some being former Vietminh). The North Vietnamese held McCain in Hanoi (North VietNam – Hoa Lo Prison).
BTW: you are repeating one of the more infamous fibs attributed to the non-official sources out of the Bush campaign in 2000. It’s weird when Democrats do that particularly in a week when Obama is being charged as the Real Bush III.

dl
I consider myself a moderate Democrat. I never voted for Bush. Never cared for him and I live in Texas. (imagine that)
I hated the Iraq war the day it started. I did support the Afghan war.
I am a moderate tree hugger. I believe Gore is about 60% right on the environment and I also believe we should conserve and learn to be better to our world. But I also believe we should prosper as a country. We shoudl defend ourselves from terror and we should have the strongest military in the world. I am even OK with the Immigration guest worker program. Heck I even think a woman should have the right to choose.
Still for the first time since Reagan I am voting for a Republican. Cause Obama simply won’t do.

McCain has NO fresh ideas. My father-in-law has a temper when he’s faced with a challenge he can’t mentally work through. It comes with age. McCain has plenty of age. The problem comes in when he’s faced with a mental challenge. Who would really be running a McCain administration? That is the question. You can be sure it won’t be John McCain.

The argument that McCain didn’t grab the Sandinista guy because of his physical limitations falls short in that 1) McCain’s equivocal half denial, half memory lapse with a sprinkle of “yeah I hated those little buggers” is as good as saying “I did it–so?”, and most importantly 2) no one else interceding only shows that the others in the room when confronted with this conflict situation correctly and maturely realized that they should not turn the situation into a hockey brawl but let McCain calm down and release the Sandanista guy, which he ultimately did.

McDaddy
then you obviously have not read both their policies…
I sat in rooms and watched them answer…
McCain did play himself off as a secdond fiddle awareness on the economy all of last year…and focused on the importance of Iraq and security..(which he was totally wrong on)
that was when he was stuck between conservatives and independents…
but the three times I saw him speak and take questions his focus was evil Iran…and how dems pulling out would make us less safe…
He is a hawk …who thinks way down the priority list on cost of lives and treasure in his stance on going to war.
He may know what it is like to be a prisonerof war but it has not made him any less aggressive in his stance and rhetoric about going to war and refacing the middle east.
and when the media wasn’t covering him early on… he couldn’t answer fiscal questions very well at all.
To not change taxes and continue on a war…and be looking at going to war with iran (and he is go compare his speeches and messages to AIPAC before Iraq and the one he just gave about Iran) …on China’s dime.
all the while our failing infrastructure will crush our economy more than anything outside of the oil crisis…
this guy is bad for America.
like him or not he is bad for America.

2008voter you got that poll wrong it’s Obama 60% and mcsame30% I have all the polls up in the other window and all of them show Mccain behind but the largest lead is only 12% you must be getting your info from Mcsame headquarters.

Being passive-aggressive is childish behavior, it does not make a good image no matter how you slice it. Everybody has a temper but if you can’t control it you’re going to do or say things you will ultimately regret.

dl -
Where is Obama going to get the money? Did you take economics in College? He is saying what people want to hear. The majority is hollow as in empty promises. He is also a pacifist and in todays world that will not work. He has never lead anyone to the restroom. What makes you think this guy is qualified to be President?

Yep with the shake up in his campaign he tying himself closer to Bush and the extreme right of his Party.
Obama took the center and left McCain with the right. Keep crumbling to the right McCain!

Joe – Get your facts straight. He was shotdown once.

How can you say he was?

I’d rather McCain having a temper and protecting America than Obama’s disgusting flip-flop on issues everyday!

Mcdaddy
Obama is not saying what everyone wants to hear…obviously.
His fiscal plan is complicated I admit that…but that is what we need …
his financial stress on this country is focusing on the fact that much our economy is driven by the retail of the middle and lower classes not trickle down economics.
We are in a situation where we have not much options… and one sends us into worse territory with the world in general…and may cause a larger deficit…because his busget ignores things like infrastructure, ballooning healthcare (causing social security to exponentially get worse), the fact that he ginores the financial stress in his estimates of a large war with Iran and the fact that their is a good chance we are going to have to go back into afghanistan and maybe pakistan to fix the problems that we have been ignoring…
and that with NAFTA the job outlook isn’t lookin g better…
and the fact that Obama inherently because of how the world views him is more likely to have the support of our allies in getting out…where McCain having such similarity to Bush emboldens people like Russia and Iran and China to flip us off…becaus ethey know how we are being viewed in other countries and those countries’ leaders are elected by the people.
and ignoring that the educationdeficit with our students and other counteries continues to grow… all the while they send their students to our universities to return to build business back their now that they have such a growing global economy.
There are so many things wrong with McCain’s fiscal plan …it’s impossible to put them in one post.

McDaddy … Kinda no room to talk there. Where did Bush get his money for his record spending? 6 years of record deficets, that’s where. Republicans who speak of cutting spending have proven themselves to be hypocrits. Do as I say, not as I do. I believe Obama is going to get money by finally getting a resolution to this Republican created problem in Iraq and turning our economy around from the ground up instead of relying on the top down. Isn’t that something you’re supposed to be supporting?

DL,
Let’s get back to basics.
Profit: It’s a thing that motivates people to do or not do something.
I can think of no other reason why a group of people (ie employees at Exxon Mobil, Chevron, Joe for Oil) would want to go to a place that’s 70 degrees below zero like Alaska -ANWR or 200 miles off of our coast – just to dig a hole in the ground. There must be something other than the thrill of digging a hole in the ground. Please, please tell me this is not an IQ issue. That you understand why someone would want to make a profit. *Finally – if making so much money is so evil why do Liberals have so much: Kennedy, Pelosi, Kohl, Feinstein. Hell – Obama.

“Mccain was never up for admrial and even if he was the Navy doesn’t report those things.”
Rear Admiral. Big diff. And yes they do when an officer is discussing retirement.
“HE graduated at the bottom of his class”
Yes he did from one of the hardest schools in the nation, but even he admits he was a party animal then. On the other hand, Robert E. Lee was at the top of his and still lost the war against the northern aggression. ;-)
“He got shot down 3 times… Good judgment?”
Three? One shoot down.
I’m not sure I’m qualified to say what about that is ‘good judgment’ vs good shooting. I know I wouldn’t have been able to make one flight. If you feel qualified to cast stones, have at. But remember he was flying his 23rd mission three months after surviving the Forestal fire and being wounded getting another pilot off the deck when a bomb exploded near them.
You do know its rather classless to say those sorts of things, yes? It won’t raise your candidate up to tear down a veteran’s record.

21 years ago. Exactly what I thought. Bring up 21-25 years ago stuff. Obama has been in the US CONGRESS 143 days so he wont have anything on his because he has ZERO experience. Interns have more experience than he does.

2008Voter
yes that profit I would call evil when the oil companies have now pushed (thank you Charlie Black mr. oil lobbyist) our leaders into saying that whether we are destroying our earth…whether or not global warmign will destroy us further…
it is more important they gain a greater profit and enormous gains …rather than them take the hit because they want to have a sel;ection that is bigger than what they already have…
the oil companies are doing what they did with the Iraq war…
Just as they used 9/11 to gain entrance to fool us into Iraq…
they are now using 4$ gas to fool us into letting them have access to smaller state officials to lobby states with their billions to allow them access to any place along the coast.
so yeah… they are putting their (record) profits ahead of global warming, America’s need to get off oil…ahead of American’s giving up food this winter because they can’t afford to heat their homes.
Oil is running out…but they have access to lots of oil…it’s just not as lucrative of locations…
so this idea that the markets will react to some false notion that we are discovering new oil because we haven’t discovered it in the other places …is false.

McDaddy
You are wrong…that is trickle down economics and as bright as some think it is…it’s not.

To clarify…
The fire was on the USS Oriskany. Bad day, and seemingly one of the lucky days in a life that – for a while – was decidedly unlucky.
The “shoot downs” the poster is referring to is actually wrong. McCain crashed four planes, it would seem, in peacetime. That seems to me bad luck, and it does not matter to me at all in determining his readiness for POTUS.
Do you mean to say you agree that John Kerry should not have been attacked by the Swift Boat Vets? Bud Day, the leader of that vile group, is now emplyed by McCain to smear Wes Clark.
I have said that I admire McCain’s conduct as a POW. But what I admired more – and most – were his efforts in normalizing relations with Vietnam later in life.
That was arguably more courageous, and an act of strength on his part – one not seen often in a world where people hold grudges.
With McCain’s flip-flopping all over the place now to suit public opinion polls, I am not sure that the new version would have gone and undertaken that tough diplomatic assignment. And that is disappointing.

DL,
That last post of mine should have been aimed at Mcdaddy. Sorry.
“Investment Bankers” – in an article critical of Investment Bankers is typically code for “I don’t like a certain group in this country.”

2008 Voter…
I am a liberal that wants states rights for a lot of things, and healthcare is #1 on my list. This is not a right v left issue – I actually think that Romney has it right. We cannot continue to allow people to remain uninsured, show up at the ER – and then have you and me pick up their tab in the form of higher premiums.
Because THAT is socialized medicine! You and me paying for someone else.

2008 Voter…
As the current system does not act on free market principles is it impossible to just “start it”. Until the old system comes down.
Again, this needs to be done on the state level. Why am I to be held back because MS and AR and OK can’t get their act together? On healthcare? On education (Hatch in UT)? On environmental standards (Arnold in CA)?
But every time states try to buck the system and implement their own standards the Feds slap them down. The GOP favors states rights when it is not in power, and denies them when it is.
You cannot have it both ways.

Len,
Thanks for the info. He is very unlucky, because it seems that he was on the Oriskany (with the VA-163 Saints) when a fire there killed 44 a year before.
Interesting fact – same thing apparently caused both, use of 1,000 lb bombs from WWII that were deemed unsafe to use in WWII.
Seems like a number of far-right blogs blamed McCain for the incident in the runup to the 2000 GOP primary, but there is nothing to back that up. More likely using 30 year old F-Grade bombs on jet planes was just a bad idea. Gee, who would have thunk that?

Some on this forum have been criticized for bringing up issues (McCains past temper fits) that go back as far as 20-21 years. I guess you can’t have it both ways can you? You McCain supporters remind us several times a day of McCains POW status and what a hero he was. Let’s see, that happened 40 plus years ago but you are willing to share that story over and over and over. But the oppositon doesn’t dare bring up anything that may tarnish his image regardless of when it happened. That’s hypocritical, but what do you expect from the McCain campaign?

Jim Rod You really have not been paying attention if you think Democrats could do anything with Bush and his veto. Then there was the republican filibuster that required 60 votes when there was a 49 to 50 repubs to demos. So the republicans had it 100% until 2006. Since then they have just made sure the Democrats could get nothing done. That is how wonderful republicans have been as Bush’s rubberstampers.

ok, obama is going to encourage poor people and minorites, to go into the military.
i’ll bet this is not the “change” they were hoping for.

We have borok brother here – governor patrick. He came right after Romney, a year ago, and already destroyed the State.

Glad to see the new poll confirm that Michelle Obama is the most hated women.

“Wesley Clark is the true American – and military service:
Clark has commanding experience – McCain “commanded” a squadron – Clark holds his ground, McCain throws a temper-tantrum. No contest.
Posted by: sandy | Jul 2, 2008 4:21:06 PM”
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Clark does have a lot of military experience.
McCain has experience of decades in the senate. He is the ranking member of a variety of committees. He has been on the senate armed services committee for 21 years. McCain’s extensive experience in elected office is what qualifies him to be president. His acceptance of years of torture in exchange for nothing more than honor speaks to his character. His returning from that hell-hole with determination and grit, rising to high public office, is a testimony to his resilience when other men were destroyed by their trauma in Vietnam. His leadership role in securing humanitarian aid for Vietnam in ensuing years after they tortured him for 5 1/2 years is testimony to his heart.
Clark’s recent comment about McCain – that getting shot down from a fighter plane does not qualify one to be president – belittles McCain’s heroic show of dignity and character in his POW years. It mocks his decades in the senate with long track record of bipartisanship and battle against government waste. And it is a violation of the honor of a fellow soldier, which Clark as a general should be more aware of than most. Mr. Clark lost a great deal of my respect when he made that statement. I was hoping that he just mis-spoke, but lo and behold he expounds further on this issue. It is a sad day indeed when former senior military officials become so blinded by partisanship and greed for political gain that they abandon the core courtesy of not disparaging another soldier’s honorable conduct.

to:Posted by: L.R. | Jul 3, 2008 2:40:27 AM
Thank you.
That was an excellent , thought provoking, fact based post.
I hope some of the other people here take to the time to read it.
It would probally prove worth while for them.

I wrote this elsewhere but I think it applies as it shows McCain having COMS (Cranky Old Man Syndrome). People with grandparents and great-grandparents know what I’m talking about. We love em’ but when symptoms of COMS shows up we just have a slight urge to put them on plane to torment a rival relative.
“Oh my goodness. People are seriously thinking about electing a guy in his 70s to be the President. I love old people, and the more power to them if they can keep it up when young rabble-rousers. But seriously someone brought up an honest point. If someone 74 (who looks 74- like someone took a paper bag and put it on their face and spray painted it) was going to give you laser eye surgery , would you stop and question maybe if his/or her age could be a hindrance for the success of the operation? I think ageism is not a good thing but people at a certain age shouldn’t be trying to do something that could be and is physically and mentally exhaustive. And don’t tell me age has nothing to do with things, because when someone over 70 cuts you off on the road, what is the first thing that comes to your mind? Like I said I love old people but they can (old men in particular) be quite cranky and senile. Unless McCain is receiving organ transplants from a 20 yr. old, taking super-vitamins, exercising everyday, and doing crossword puzzles (take note my gray haired friends- its exercise for the mind), there is nothing that you can say to persuade me that he is not too old for the job of running the country. Did I mention I love senior citizens and sometimes I read AARP?
Take note McCain campaign: I will definitely change my tune if they show very recent clips of McCain doing bench presses, drinking carrot juice smoothies, and working on a Sodoku puzzle.”

McCain had been so brutalized during has P.O.W. captivity that he has since been unable to lift his arms above his head, and cannot put on a jacket by himself.
Yet we’re expected to believe he, a 51 year old disabled man, was able to manhandle someone else in the room before anyone else could intercede?
This comment (just like the last one where I pointed this out) will be deleted in 5…4…3…2…

LR-Just so you and everyone else can understand something. Obama has said he will raise taxes on the rich and use those taxes to fund some of his give away programs, more welfare, solicilized medcail care etc. Well lets look at something, first the rich have money and a team of people to help them minimize taxes so here is what will happen. When the taxes are raised as he says on capital gains, the rich will move their money to something like a muni bonds or annuities where they do not have to pay taxes or pay very minimal taxes. Then if they need money they will just use the bonds or annuities to obtain a loan (no taxes on loans right) and wait until better tax programs are in place. Remember most rich do not have a job that they get a W-2 on they run business and investments. They are the ones that creat the jobs, and with no investments no more jobs plan and simple. So guess who winds up paying for Obama’s give away programs to those who do not want to work just want to go get their hand out cause they think those who do work owe them a living. You got it you who are working day in day out and drawing a pay check. It won’t be the rich cause they will protect their money as they should. If you look back at all the pasted tax reductions you will see that they always enabled growth in the jobs market and the investment market and that is what we have to have. If we start down Obama’s road then before long we will be being taxed at 50-60% or more just to support his give away plans. Take a look at our neighorbs to the north or the UK and you will see 50 t0 65% taxes. Good luck and look for ways to protect what money you do have there are investments out there that you can put you money in and not have to pay taxes on it right away and that is what you need to do if you have any spare money at all.

bubalu,
What do you mean “if”?. You were gonna vote for him anyway!!! This garbage of a story is what sealed the deal for you, with McCain? That’s pathetic.

I owe Mr. Klein an apology. He actually did cover McCain’s interview with Robin Roberts on Good Morning America. Unfortunately he never mentioned that McCain lied to Roberts when she quoted him saying he was not an expert on the economy. He denied ever saying it. It was the same lie he made to the late Tim Russert during a Presidential debate. Russert later confronted him with it on Meet the Press. Lie once on TV, get caught by NBC. Lie again to ABC, get ignored.

Bruhman,
Do you still feel the same now that your “financial innovators on Wall Street have almost destroyed the US economy? Almost 30 years of “trickle-down economics” will do that.
Taxes in Canada are nowhere as high as you suggest. Check your facts.