More Humble Obama Berlin Speech Location Chosen: The Victory Column

007, victory is still long in coming. You don’t dream victory, you fight for it. All these symbolisms will count for nothing until the victory is earned.

No matter where Obama choses to make his speech, the crowds will be sizable. The World is eager for the U.S. to be the beacon of hope and light that has been extinquished over the last 7.5 years.

Oh wonderful, never before have I been so disappointed with the presidential nomoniee’s. McCain is growing scarier by the minute, and boy boy was Hillary right about Obama change you can xerox. Trying to recreate history by copying, speaking at statidums alha jfk, trying to speak at brandenburg gate alah regan, accepting his party’s nomination on a histric day alah the anniversary of Martin luther king jr’s I have a dream speech. Lousy choices to pick from this year.

I love the new location Far away so close and wings of desire… great visual and quiet moments in those films…(maybe the broadcast of Obama’s speech ‘ll be in “black and white” pun intended…lol)
but hopefully he takes a cue from the power of those films and that they relied heavily on quiet thoughtful moments…and stark powerful imagery.
Let the viewers understand what Obama means to our relations to overseas…don’t force it.
Not to sound hokey…any film afficianado is going to have a tough time not envisioning all the angels standing around on peaks looking down at what may be the earth bound trying to fix themselves…ya know
Just a little correction to the spin some are putting…the date for the speech to accept the nomination was chosen before Obama was the presumptive nominee…oy and duh. spin spin spin blather blather blather…

Is Obama’s imaginary grandfather going to be their that freed the imaginary jews out of the Nazi Prison camp that was really freed by the Russians

Barry will wow them and WIN IN A LANDSLIDE come November. Who are the Republicans running again?

spinner said…
“Is Obama’s imaginary grandfather going to be their that freed the imaginary jews out of the Nazi Prison camp that was really freed by the Russians…”
no but the grandfather and great uncle that served nobly in WWII and his uncle …you know …obviously since you are trying to spin like a swiftboater…the one that helped free the concentration camp Buchenwald…
do you know what Buchenwald was?
I bet you didn’t..
so please stop.

and to be honest…I think this is a much better locale personally…
the Brandenberg Gate (and I think Obama would agree with this) …might have come across (not necessarily but might have) a little out of sync with what he is doing.

let me try again:
Andreas Schockenhoff of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats said: the Siegessäule in Berlin is dedicated to a victory over neighbors who are today our European friends and allies. It is a problematic symbol.

Obama has been running an almost insignificant lead against McCain since winning the nomination. We would expect a jump in the polls for him when he returns but if that doesn’t happen or isn’t very significant then the Dems have big problems. Even if he won today it would be totally non-impressive in that this is a year Mickey Mouse should be able to win the Repubs by double digits. The Dems have no one but themselves to blame if McCain were to win this election. The Dems do what they always do and that is putting in the least strongest candidate
This year though the Repubs were smarter and put in their strongest
candidate. If the Dems lose this election we have all those Obama supporters to thank who bought into all the hype and lost sight of seriously wanting to take back the White House.
If Obama does’t win this new fashion trend of Obama shirts is going to look
pretty stupid.

But, a ridiculous post about Obama holding an insignificant lead remains? THERE IS NOT A SINGLE POLL IN EXISTENCE (UNLESS YOU COUNT THE AOL STRAW POLL…WHO USES AOL ANYMORE???) WHERE JOHN MCFRAUD IS LEADING!!! Senator Obama has outsmarted, outmanuevered, doubled fund raised, out-slicked, and outpolitic-ed a twenty-six year politician. All I said was, that should translate into an Obama victory.

Ah, Bruhman, you are correct Obama has outsmarted McCain and seems to have one of the strongest immune systems any politician has ever had in the history of political races. Many of us out here have bashed our heads into the McCain brick wall many times and multiple times per day in some cases. However, there are some errors in your statements regarding Obama’s finances. The Alexa Web Tracking had BHO’s website in the most popular top 500 and in June I believe it has dropped to the top 3,000 websites visited. June data shows McCain’s website is trending upwards in popularity and this could be one of the reasons McCain has 100 million in the bank compared to Obama’s 72 million cash on hand. Also noteworthy is that Obama at one time had 1.5 million donors and in June that number was cut in half to 764,000. I know I read somewhere that at least 3-5 of the richest DNC donors have not contributed to the Obama campaign and have already contributed to McCain’s campaign. Hillary’s camp has not returned to Obama in droves and telling them to “get over it” and forgetting to ask for money for our gal Hillary during a campaign stop could not have gone over well. Then there is all that flack coming out of Denver about not having the funds for the big show. They are still having to pay for the renting of the original Convention site and Invesco Field. OUCH! One other factor Bruhman is that some of us are waiting to see who is going to be the VP. Most GOP donors are holding back and will see how hated we really are. LOL! If McCain picks Romney, your claim to having all the money will really not be valid. Oh yeah, also check out the story that ran about say a month ago on Obama running ads in states he has already conceded or thinks will not go blue. Many folks in the political arena are still scratching their heads of that one. But kudos to you Bruhman for having a candidate like Obama that takes no prisoners. We sure do wish we had one! LOL!

“So where will Herr Obama be speaking?”
If the video from Aghanistan is any indication, he’ll be talking with his mouth full, wherever he is.
Even the cuteness is wearing thin. Maybe the Democrats will nominate someone else. They’d better.

That is a great setting I visit it a couple of years ago. I think when Sen.Obama give that speach he will be seen around this world as someone who is trying to bring this world together…

The Democratic party has gone to a lot of trouble to eke out the bare majority that the junior Senator from Illinois got to clinch his nomination. IF it takes extra show-biz to keep his appeal and public sizzle in place, he SHOULD do this empty rhetoric-laden speech in one of the most historic cities the US ever saved. It’s just ironic that his biggest appeal to his own activists is a promise to stop saving people in Iraq. Knock yourselves out I say.

Hope he has his teleprompter with him -don’t know what the German translations are for Uh, err, ammm! lol! I say “Nein” to Herr Obama!

It’s just ironic that his biggest appeal to his own activists is a promise to stop saving people in Iraq. Knock yourselves out I say.
Posted by: anderbilt | Jul 20, 2008 6:54:59
******************************************** I thought MCCain told us we already won in Iraq? He said we have succeeded in Iraq? So have we or was McCain lying again?

In democrat societies, we need more participation from informed citizens. Loud speech is a thing of past.

No No not our president.

WOW! The right-wingers are out in force tonight. Did you all get an email from the McCain camp to go on the Internet and blow out your BS while Senator Obama is on his overseas trip? Will not work – jealousy is a horrible thing – too bad McCain does not get the audiences and support that Senator Obama receives. You would be all over this trip with accolades if it was McCain getting all of this attention. MCain is a dead horse in this election -he is the default candidate for a party who knew they were outclassed in this election year. Outclassed in a presidential candiate – outclassed for seats in the Senate and House. Gramm was right about whiners – just pointed his finger at the wrong group – they whiners are the right wingers who can only wish they had a candidate who has as much appeal to the masses as Senator Obama does.

It is appropriate Obama picked the “Victory Column” The last leader that preached the same message paraded up Unter den Linden and through the Gate in January 1933, announcing the arrival of a “new Germany” to the world. They should love him in Germany. As for we Conservatives we will be portrayed to all Europe as Medusa. Which is appropriate according to the story in Greek mythology (yes to all historians I know there are others) Medusa was a women who’s beauty was beyond all earthly measure. Her crowning glory was her hair flowing in ringlets around her shoulders forming a majestic crown worthy of a goddess. Her very name Medusa means “sovereign female wisdom”. Men sought after her following Medusa’s every move in the hopes to make her his wife but before Medusa could wed she was worshiping in the temple of Athena and was ravaged by Neptune. Athena who was jealous of Medusa because of her beauty was so enraged by her temple being defiled in this way she turned her wrath on Medusa. Athena changed Medusa’s crown of flowing ringlets into snakes so that anyone that should look upon her would be turned to stone.
As the myth goes Perseus slayed Medusa by only looking at her reflection in his shield so that he could cut off her head. This is the part of the story most people know but when you look at it Medusa whose only crime was to be born the most beautiful of women Was the victim of a rape by a suture who was a God so she could not deny his advances nor did she knowingly tempt. For this she was cursed by the very God she went to worship. Athena could not attack Neptune who was the aggressor and at fault for defiling her temple so turned her rage on Medusa for the most human of all reasons, jealousy. Medusa was cursed to live a grim life of destitution and solitude on a barren island. Medusa was unable to befriend anyone without bringing the curse of Athena upon them until someone killed her for her head for crimes she did not commit. Medusa will always be remembered as a hideous creature of evil who died because of her wicked ways but this is simply not the true story. Let us hope the liberals do not cut off our conservative tresses to be displayed to future generations to be viewed as is Medusa.

L’europe pour Obama, if USA doesn’t elect him a president we will elect try hard to elect him the president of Europe

Obama has already tried to raise everyone taxes making over 32,000 a year.

Concerned AMerican – thank you! GREAT post. And, it really does come down to that – refusing to vote for a Black man but not having the courage to say so.

freeus – Sorry – false argument – not only does Senator Obama admit when he blows it – so do his supporters. There have been planty of us on his neck for some of his stances but we will not always agree with him and Senator Obama is aware of that. He is man enough to admit that. Then there is the confused candiate – McCain:
* McCain continues to believe Czechoslovakia is still a country.
* McCain has been confused about the difference between Sudan and Somalia.
* McCain has been confused about how many U.S. troops are in Iraq.
* McCain has been confused about whether the U.S. can maintain a long-term presence in Iraq.
* McCain has been confused about the source of violence in Iraq.
* McCain has been confused about Iran’s relationship with al Qaeda.
* McCain has been confused about the difference between Sunni and Shi’ia.
* McCain has been confused about Gen. Petraeus’ responsibilities in Iraq.
* McCain has been confused about what transpired during the Maliki government’s recent offensive in Basra.
Then, of course, McCain’s 75 flip-flops.Yep! Some default candidate you have there.

EYES WIDE OPEN – Sorry, I think you eyes need glasses. I do not pay attention to you naysayers … … you are all in just in shock over the idea that our presumptive POTUS isn’t making an ass of himself on his travels – something too many people have gotten so used to over the last eight years, they’ve come to believe it’s the way things are meant to be done. “Oh, my God! Senator Obama is speaking in coherent sentences, and is actually SAYING something worth listening to! Whatever can this MEAN?!?” Seems to me, McCain’s challenge is actually making Obama the candidate of choice. McCain overplayed his hand – now he is paying the price. And Senator Obama is schooling McCain and Bush on foreign policy. Look at the 180 degree turn Bush and McCain have taken over the past few days. Senator Obama the leader, Bush and McCain the followers.

‘Obama chairs the European Affairs Subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which has oversight of military operations in Afghanistan.”
The important thing to note is that
OBAMA IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THAT COMMITTEE!

Lets Face It, Bush-Cheney and Their confused step child McCain are living in the greedy past. Obama has demonstrated the courage and intelect to say what America has been feeling for the past eight years. DOES ANONE REALLY REALIZE HOW BUSH AND COMPANY INCLUDING MCCANE SREWED OUR COUNTRY’S ECONOMY AND WORLD WIDE REPUTATION UP?
How long do you think it will take to recover from the world opinion that Americans are self centered and arrogant based on the example of it’s leaders. Iraq has always benn about oil. May both Bush and Cheney live long enough to live with their horible legacy.I pray that Obama and his team can get America on the road to recovery form the damages of the Bush-Cheney and McCane’s operatives.

“Obama has already tried to raise everyone taxes making over 32,000 a year.” Posted by: chattyway
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That is a misunderstanding.
That’s taxable income.
The resolution Obama voted for would not have increased taxes on any single taxpayer making less than $41,500 per year in total income, or any couple making less than $83,000. The $32,000 figure is approximately the taxable income of a single person making $41,500 per year, after all deductions and exclusions.

“The troops in Iraq dont love Obama they have to put on a show. The Commanders would see to that I have been to Iraq and I know this is a fact.”
Posted by: Ron
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Why would they do that ?
I thought Bush was their Commander in Chief.

Obama’s brush off the shoulders,condescending “sweetie”, silent approval of Senator Hillary Clinton being bashed by sexist media, on and on….As a Hillary Supporter,I’m OVER the Democratic Party. McCain gets my vote. I refuse to allow the sneaky low life Dean, DNC and the filthy no good talk show hosts media to choose my president.
No Bama. Never. Just Say No Deal. PUMA

Erb…all economist have spoken…and their words are that Obama’s economic plan is extremely flawed and will created economic crisis for the poor and the middle income, but especially the middle income..especially with capital gains taxes! Obama does not have a clue how to run this country…if he did he would not be flip flopping all over every issue as he does!!! This is exactly why the majority of Hillary supporters will vote for McCain…Hillary said it best when she said he was unqualified…the only reason she is kissing his butt if for money and her career!

Anon said, “Would anybody show up for a
McCain speech whether it’s
in front of a column, gate
or wall in Germany?”
I don’t think anyone’s denying that Obama’s a good orator.
They used to say Abraham Lincoln wasn’t a good orator. His speeches tended to be short and to the point, and his voice had a nasal quality to it that was unflattering. The same was said of Hillary Clinton and her voice.
And yet, a famous orator in Lincoln’s day, Edward Everett, said this of Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address, “I should be glad, if I could flatter myself that I came as near to the central idea of the occasion, in two hours, as you did in two minutes.”
It’s clear that being a good orator is a good quality to have as President, but does not exclude others, such as Lincoln, from achieving a contributive and meaningful Presidency.

This should be the DEM year but the polls arent showing a huge gap in the race. The normal working class people dont sit on blogs all day, or go online to do polls, so you have to really wonder what will happen come november. Neither candidate will win by a landslide, but i really do think McCain is going to do it with all republicans and most independents who just dont trust Obama

I see no real upside to this next election. I see some with fawning praise for Obama which is distressing to anyone who has a rudimentary grasp of history. I have read how even the military is cheering him on in droves. The only video I saw was a handful and the vast majority were black. No matter the pole Obama gets over 90% of the black vote that is mind numbing. I am not going to compromise my principles one more time by holding my nose and voting for McCain but will never vote for anyone like Obama he will destroy our country but john is not much better.
John has completely abandoned conservatives to pursue the far radical left votes. It is next to impossible to defend McCain he has left us out in the cold. Today being a conservative is just like being Sisyphus. We toil for years to bring conservative thinking to the top of the hill only to watch liberal republicans undermine our plans and send us back to the bottom. According to legend Sisyphus never tired or was disillusioned even though he was condemned for all eternity to never achieve his quest. We should take heed of his example and not lose sight of the top of our hill.
I see many millions of conservative minded people in this country but we are a mob with no leader. To date none have come forward to carry our banner to the top of our hill and plant our seed. Before history can be written it must be made. Before conservatism can take root we must first till the soil and trim the tree. Our main problem seems to be root rot and branches that bear no fruit. This big tent idea is not working we have to leave some out in the rain until they wish to join us as conservatives or they will salt the soil and we will wither once again.

“Is Obama running for President in Germany now, because
That isn’t very logical, Mr. Spock.
Only 4% of the German people are Islamic.
There must be some other reason he’s so popular there.
Maybe they think he’d be a great President.

The war in Iraq was wrong bu Obama is not the right choice.

History lesson (please check it out!): After 9/11 we had the whole world on our side, until the arrogance of the Republicans made it clear that we didn’t need the rest of the world. They assembled a rag-tag “coalition” to prove that the UN was unnecessary, until they realized they had created a quagmire that diverted attention from Bin Laden and let him escape–but we could not.
Then they went to the countries they had snubbed, hat in hand, begging for help to set up a police force in Iraq. But they simultaneously declared that VERY profitable rebuilding contracts (OUR money!) would NOT be shared with the countries they were begging from.
Yes, SOMEONE has to apologize and start building relationships again. We are rapidly selling America to pay for our ineffective, goalless wars and our addiction to oil. You stop being arrogant pretty fsst when you are bankrupt. It might be good to prepare for losing our “superpower” status before it actually happens.
This Republican America of hate and religious politics is NOT the country I swore to defend when I volunteered to join the Army 50 years ago. And I will support ANYONE who truly understands what America really means and will help us heal from the incredible Bush era.