My Candidate Spent $225 Million Dollars and Went $30 Million In Debt and All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt (Plus a Weakened Nominee!)

No, we also got the priceless experience of voting against Obama in November.

How about they just have Bill pay it off with all of that cash he’s getting from his buisness deals in the middle east? I mean, why can’t SHE pay her own DAMN bills? WE have to? Hell with the t-shirt, write the check Hilliary, or find Bill, wherever he’s staying that night, drag him out, and get HIM to write it. To quote Bill:”How DARE they”, expect US to pay for their failures. It’s called accountability. Although I’m sure Bill and Hillary haven’t been held accountable for anything since high school. It must be a culture SHOCK for ‘em!

Nice job Hillary – the “win at all costs” is really costing you now isn’t it? Let’s hope it doesn’t cost all of us in November.
Someone so stubborn and foolish would make a dangerous leader…
Oops! We already have one of those!

Matt – If Hillary’s “outraged base” was big enough and devoted enough to matter, they would have all kicked in $20 and eliminated her full debt. The fact of the matter is that most Hillary supporters are disappointed that the person they saw as the best candidate lost, but are ready to support Senator Obama in November.
Some Republicans have seized on pretending to be irrational ‘wingnut’ Hillary supporters to try to sow dissension (they may have shown up while I typed this up), but the unavoidable fact is that if she had even a million pissed off devotees right now, she would have zero debt.
FACT: IF SENATOR CLINTON HAD EVEN ONE MILLION ‘CLINTON OR NO-ONE’ DEVOTEES, SHE WOULD HAVE ZERO DEBT.
She is admired by many, but Democrats, including her justifiably dispirited supporters, are moving on to November. That’s reality, not more Republican lies (checkout the site VP Cheney recommended during the ’04 VP debates for reality, factcheck.org, and you’ll see McCain is the clear winner in documented lies this season).

Fiscal conservatism and personal responsibilty at its finest.

Lois – Senator Obama has shown a great deal of respect to Senator Clinton throughout the campaign. He did not dredge up the mud stacked up during President Clinton’s term (and there was a great deal), nor did he take shots at her gender, not did he fan scurrulous rumors.
Allowing McCain to enact a third Bush term because you feel that Senator Clinton is not given enough respect from Senator Obama is a tremendous insult to what Senator Clinton ran for. She did not run to put a trophy on the mantle, as the right wing media would have you believe, but to do all she can to help her country return to a prosperous path. You show tremendous disrespect to her and her legacy if you reduce her historic campaign to a playground spat over respect.

Right on JHW!
She exhibited far more disrespect, poor judgement and mis-management in her campaign.
Now she expects a man to bail her out–how does that square with the “strong woman/feminist” thing? What kind of message is that? Take your lumps like the strong woman you proported to be Hillary, and fix it yourself.
Stop being the victim, and enabling other women to justify being victims, too!

John – President Bush was endorsed by Senator McCain in 2004. President Bush is the leader of the Republican party. President Bush received unprecedented, no-vetos-necessary support from the Republican-controlled Congress. Senator McCain supports President Bush’s tax policy. Senator McCain supports President Bush’s energy (oil drilling) policy. Senator McCain supports President Bush’s open-ended Iraq policy (opposed even by the democratically elected Iraqi government). Senator McCain has presented no changes in economic policy (and has echoed President Bush’s talking point of the economy is doing just fine).
Those are hard, documented facts, not a slick mantra, and it is NOT sleazy politics to point out the fact that Republicans, led and supporting President Bush, are responsible for the results of his presidency. That’s called accountability.
If you wish to argue that McCain is not equivalent to a third term of President Bush, feel free to present FACTS on where they differ.

The media has nothing better to do than keep up tension between Clinton and Obama supporters

Kardasia, you have a point, except the media (in general) is SO behind Obama that they wouldn’t deliberately do anything to derail his runaway train.
Even Bill O’Reilly is exceptionally kind to Obama; Obama is untouchable.
We who supported Hillary Clinton don’t need to be reminded (1) that she lost, and (2) HOW she lost.

jhw, your reasoning is pretty good, but the economy has emerged as the Number One concern of most Americans, especially as Bush’s War (in Iraq) seems to be winding down. We still have some serious foreign policy issues to figure out, such as Afghanistan and (especially) Iran. Ahmadinejad seems determined to start a “new” war, and his bellicose attitude is ramping-up the price of oil again, just as it looked like the speculators were losing their enthusiasm. Hillary Clinton has the best background in handling the economy and our domestic problems, but I’m not sure Obama OR McCain has the savvy to handle either the domestic or mid-East crises.
Of course, it’s a moot question now… Obama is only waiting for his coronation.

Considering Obama as president is about the same as considering him as coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. NO BACKGROUND FOR EITHER JOB! Oh, I forgot – he was a community organizer. WELL?

To retire the 23 M dollars debt, HRC supporters as of July 4th contributed 10 M+ while Obama supporters contributed 100 K. And now he needs Hillary supporters to contribute to his campaign — Yeah Right. I will contribute to HRC to bring down her debt but not a dime to the Obama campaign or vote for him.

jhw539
It not that I am lazy. I HAVE read the same stuff you are reciting and am not impressed. I’ll be more specific. Lets say I have a business making widgets, what exactly will Obama do to help me expand my business and hire more workers. The US has the second highest corporate tax rate in the world – ANY HELP HERE? Ireland has cut the corporate tax rate down to bare bones and the country is rockin with new business and high employment. AND……. MORE REVENUE TO THEIR GOVERNMENT!!! Obams plans with research and foundations are fine – BUT WHERE IS THE PROFIT INCENTIVE?

All you Obama supporters keep saying Hillary mismanaged her campaign causing the shortfall in revenue. Hillary raised record amounts of money, it’s just that Obama raised ungodly amounts. She had to spend to keep up. And just as a note, I still don’t believe that money came from mom and pop donors. Time will tell.

Hillary Clinton’s supporters ARE contributing money towards her debt. I don’t understand the attitude wherein it is fitting and proper that she join in campaigning for him, exhort her 18 million supporters to do the same but to ask for help in retiring her debt is beyond the pale. Even IF Obama asks for this, hmm…maybe he does lead by example.
He and Michelle each donated the maximum, but that doesn’t mean his supporters will follow his example. You’d think people had their own minds, or something. You know, like those Hillary Clinton supporters who have no intention of voting for Obama.

If Obama didn’t think he needed Hillary’s help to get elected, then he certainly wouldn’t want her campaigning with him. Nor would he care about her debt. With the negativity of the primary looming over his head, he could still be in jeopardy of losing the White House. I hope people start to think for themselves. There is no way I will ever believe Hillary does not want Obama elected. The media needs to be held accountable for some of the crap they put out there.

Bea,
You are right on that Hillary honestly wants Obama elected. If Obama loses, it WILL be blamed on her “going negative” in the primary. Her political career will be dead – every McCain veto on a Democratic Congress’s health care bill will be her fault, every extra year in Iraq, the overturning of Roe V. Wade her fault. She’ll be lucky to keep her Senate seat and have no chance at the higher Senate leadership role and 2016 nomination that’s her due.

“You are right on that Hillary honestly wants Obama elected. If Obama loses, it WILL be blamed on her “going negative” in the primary. ….”
Posted by: jhw539 | Jul 10, 2008 8:44:13 PM
If Obama does not get elected, I think the Democratic voters, who might already feel disenfranchised, are going to look to other individuals to blame for the party’s failure to get the Democratic nominee elected; i.e. Harry Reid, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Donna Brazille, etc… Those individuals were very involved in dividing the Democratic party. Those same individuals will have a hard time justifying their divisive actions to their voting constituents when they are having to campaign for the offices they currently occupy.
And, let’s be honest, over the last month Obama has not adhered to the ideology that he espoused during the primaries; FISA, NAFTA, Iraq, public campaign financing, healthcare, faith-based initiatives, his church, etc.. If he continues to move further away from his primary electoral base, some of the blame will belong entirely to himself (and his advisors).
So, in the end, I think Hillary will weather the storm. This election has proven that she’s a fighter!

jhw539.
Did you know that the Canadians conduct lotteries to decide which persons will go to the top of the health recipient ladder? The founder of their system now regrets ever promoting such a plan. You are typical lib with no knowledge of how our economic system works. Business creates economic wealth – GOVERNMENT, PARTICULARLY BIG GOVERNMENT DETRACTS FROM IT!!

rhbate…you should care because there are 18 million Hillary supporters and at least 25% of them are not going to vote for your candidate. John Sydney McCain will be our 44th President not Barack Hussein Obama. I am a Hillary supporter and wish she would just pay off her own debt as the Clintons have the $$. I don’t like them beholding to BO in any way, although he needs her big time to get some of those 18 million votes. They both want something from each other…personally Obama needs here more than she needs him. I did hear Obama has the worst fundraising month in May….not surprising…I would guess all the college kids and blacks are tapped out at $2,300…and the liberal billionaires have given to the max by now too. Maybe he shouldn’t have opted out of the 87 million for campaigning that he originally said he would accept. But he’s the king of flip-flop, and we will see much more of that before November.
HILLARY SUPPORTER VOTING McCAIN!

I’ll gladly help Hillary with her debt and support McCain.
But not a dime to Obama.
Obama’s arrogance, inability to take a stand, buckling under pressure, and his past with Rev Wright are enough for me to not trust him.

Whether they’ll admit it or not, with each passing day of Obama’s campaign, most Democrats are seeing that they let the best candidate get away.

If Hillary cannot find a way to pay off her debts w/o Obama’s help. I doubt seriously she was quailified to be POTUS. Is she that incompetent.
Why would anyone expect ctizens who detest her to bail her out? What kind of fantasy world do you live in? And don’t come back with your juvenile threats. Vote for whomever you choose. IT’S WHAT WE ALL ARE SUPPOSED TO DO
Posted by: Dennis | Jul 10, 2008 8:11:47 PM
Don’t worry WE HAVE already raised over 6 million to pay off Hillary’s debt. WE Don’t want money from Obama supporters who detest her, just like all the Hillary supporters that detest Obama will not give him a dime OR vote for him. HE NEEDS US more than we need him.
it is not a threat that we will not vote for a man we do not trust, it is just stating a fact