Obama Asks McCain About Paris/Britney Ad: “Is That Really the Best You Can Come Up With?”
At a town hall meeting on energy in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, this afternoon, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, addressed the new TV ad offered from his opponent, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., which insinuates that Obama is little more than a paparazzi-pursued media-created celebrity a la Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.
The ad, titled "Celeb," uses images of the two blonde starlets.
"Given the seriousness of the issues, you’d think we could have a serious debate," Obama said. "But so far, all we’ve been hearing about is Paris Hilton and Britney Spears. I mean, I do have to ask my opponent, is that the best you can come up with? Is that really what this election is about? Is that what is worthy of the American people?"
The crowd yelled: "NOOOOOOOOOO."
"Even the media has pointed out that Senator John McCain — who started off talking about running an honorable campaign — has fallen back on predictable political attacks and demonstrably false statements. But here’s the problem. All of those negative ads spending all this time talking about me, instead of talking about what he’s going to do, that’s not going to lower your gas prices…
"It’s politics as a game," Obama said. "But the time for game-playing is over. That’s why I’m running for President of the United States of America."
Big cheers from the Iowa crowd.
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“Given the seriousness of the issues, you’d think we could have a serious debate,” Obama said”
Actually they can’t since Obama refuses to debate. Barry seems quite agitated. Why is he continuing to whine about McCain? Did he scratch his face during this?
Posted by: geevill | July 31, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
“Why is he continuing to whine about McCain?”
I thought the McCain campaign had the market cornered on whining?
Between John McCain whining that the press doesn’t give him enough attention, and his chief economic adviser Phil Gramm calling America “a nation of whiners,” they seem to have that topic covered pretty well.
Posted by: Brian | July 31, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
McCain has repeatedly asked Obabma to debate in a Town Hall setting. Obabma refuses. Why? (Hint: They can’t use teleprompters.)
Has McCain gone too far with the Celeb ad?
The crowd yelled: “NOOOOOOOOOO.”
He’s just expressing what we who are sick of The One (“We are the ones we’ve been waiting for”) feel.
Posted by: Magoo | July 31, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Cheap shots are all McSame has left. Sad.
Posted by: Jackson | July 31, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
“Is That Really the Best You Can Come Up With?”
Yes.
This has been simple answers to simple questions.
Posted by: Hank | July 31, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
So true! If one has NOTHING of substance to offer, someone like McSame would begin talking trash just to get in the news!! He can’t brag about the unjustified invasion of Iraq, not about the tanking economy. NAFTA, loss of jobs and homes – so might as well talk about the blondies, who in fact, are very similar to Cindy in years past. So what else is new? Obama should just let McSame continue with his “talking” and not be distracted from the real issues facing all of us.
Posted by: Karen | July 31, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Has Obama agreed to a debate yet?
Seems like all voters can do is hope that Obama changes his mind and agrees to debate McCain.
Last time McCain laid down the debate challange Obama left the country.
Posted by: smith | July 31, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
“But in almost every campaign appearance this week Senator McCain has been leaning on Mr. Obama, of Illinois, to accept his offer to engage him at a series of ten one-on-one town hall meetings, a format that has worked well for the Arizona senator during the primaries.”
What? O can’t handle 10 Town Hall debates in America but he can travel all over the world getting caught up on foreing policy? Well I guess 10 TH debates would involve a lot of uh, uh, uh’s without the teleprompters. And it’s hard to stack the deck in a TH debate.
Posted by: Magoo | July 31, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
thank you to TR for his/her thorough explanation as to why mccain has refused to compromise on a series of town hall debates with sen. obama.
again, a classy response from obama to an increasingly classless mccain campaign. i’m disappointed in mccain. the american people deserve better than this fluff.
Posted by: virgil | July 31, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Hey, he was asked a question, he gave an answer. It’s not like it’s part of his stump speech or anything.
He also seemed humorous and ironic rather than agitated when he gave much the same opinion a day or so ago: perhaps substance abuse is making the words up there shake a bit so they look angry?
Posted by: Thingy | July 31, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
It’s a lot better than referring to someone as “McSame”.
Posted by: geevill | July 31, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Well said, WRY
No Deal!!
Posted by: lamecandidate | July 31, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
is this ad really worthy of americans?
sen. mccain, shame on you.
Posted by: otis | July 31, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
I guess the wounds from Obama’s last debate haven’t healed yet.
Posted by: geevill | July 31, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
This is so boring already. The debate is being shifted away from which candidate is best on policy and what they’re going to do to help the economy to mindless garbage. Oh man. Obama and McCain’s real policy platforms, Senate voting record, and history here.
Posted by: Stefan | July 31, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Not saying we don’t face challenges. Just saying we’re not in the tank. You stick with that Hope and Change mantra. It seems to be working for you. I’ll stick with Bush’s tax cuts that even Mccain has seen was a good thing and has been man enough to admit his error.
Posted by: Magoo | July 31, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
WcCain supporters have to be embarrassed by his and his campaign’s behavior.
At what point do they say “enough already”?
Posted by: dan | July 31, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Yes they should have a serious debate but Obama will not agree to one. What happened to the town hall meetings?
I like the ad.
Democrat for McCain
Posted by: Paul | July 31, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Excuse me, but there are are lot of erroneously allegations posted here about Obama not wanting to debate John McCain. Here are the facts: McCain challenged Obama to 10 town hall meetings beginning on July 4th. Obama countered with two town hall meetings and a series of debates. Obama rejected the July 4th date because he was of the opinion that Americans would be vacationing and/or spending time with their families. McCain rejected Obama’s counter-proposal. Please check the facts before posting misleading allegations. By the way, Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter are not recommended sources for political news.
Posted by: Nik | July 31, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
” Seems like all voters can do is hope that Obama changes his mind and agrees to debate McCain.”
As I already pointed out, Obama sent a proposal for four debates and one town hall meeting to McCain — in early June, two months ago! — and the McCain camp refuses to respond.
Ball’s in their court, folks.
Posted by: TR | July 31, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
I was a Democrat, and I will be again. I voted for Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, Bill Clinton ( a winner, finally! ) and Al Gore and John Kerry and HILLARY CLINTON.
Barack Obama is smooth like Ronald Reagan…I never voted for Reagan.
Posted by: WRY | July 31, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
“Yes they should have a serious debate but Obama will not agree to one.”
You’re right, he didn’t agree to one, he agreed to FIVE.
Posted by: Brian | July 31, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
i’ve been hearing a lot of substantive discussion of issues from Obama.
All McCain can do is attack Obama’s character.
And yet Obama is consistently 5-8% ahead in the polls.
McCain apparently has nothing to offer America on the issues that matter.
Posted by: jj | July 31, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
@ susannah
There are a lot of Democrats that are voting for McCain. You can pretend that, that is not the case just like you pretend that Obama is not arrogant and grossly under-qualified.
Democrat for McCain in 2008
Posted by: JamesPreston | July 31, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
O doesn’t want TH debates. He wants college debates so he can look presidential and recite prepared responses. The man cannot wing it. When he tries, it’s like watching a train wreck. THAT’s why he turned down the format, not the number of TH debates. O trolls, don’t kid yourselves.
Posted by: Magoo | July 31, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Nik, Barack Obama’s cowardly handlers suggested an Independence Day debate. They hoped no one would be watching. McCain, rightly, said no.
Get your facts straight.
Posted by: WRY | July 31, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
“McCain apparently has nothing to offer America on the issues that matter.”
All he has are dirty attacks. Sad.
Posted by: Jackson | July 31, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
heres something for all you hillary nuts to suck on, had this happened while she was the nominee…. it would be alll over right now
mccain wins mccain wins mccain wins
lol you hillary people… my god, hows she doing in the polls right now? i bet shes winning by fifty points!
A tentative schedule of Bill Clinton’s world tour says that next Monday, in Mexico City, there will be a “Clinton Giustra Sustainable Growth Initiative announcement.”
Frank Giustra is the Canadian financier who gave $100 million to the Clinton foundation and gave the former president a ride on his private plane to Kazakhstan in 2005 — Giustra won a uranium deal at the same time Clinton undercut U.S. foreign policy by showing support for Kazakh President Nursultan A. Nazarbayev.
If Hillary Clinton was the nominee, its like that the RNC would try to make him a household name.
Posted by: bhrandon | July 31, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
McCain should ask Obama why he DISSED American wounded soldiers over foreign citizens because he could not get the PHOTO OP he wanted.
Posted by: =susannah | July 31, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
McCain is running a disgusting campaign. Seems to be taking marching orders from Karl Rove.
Posted by: susan | July 31, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
bhrandon, why all the negative Clinton fodder? Are you afraid that she might rise again, especially since the super delegates are the ones deciding the nomination.
Posted by: Anonymous | July 31, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
The ad talks about Obama’s oppostition to oil drilling.
Posted by: geevill | July 31, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
As far as negative ads go, this one was actually pretty amusing to me. I’m an Obama supporter, and I have been a bit irked by some of McCain’s ads, but this one made me laugh….people just need to learn to let things roll off. Heck, Obama was laughing about the ad the same day.
Posted by: Henderson | July 31, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
McCain should ask Obama why he DISSED American wounded soldiers over foreign citizens because he could not get the PHOTO OP he wanted.
Posted by: =susannah | Jul 31, 2008 1:39:55 PM
**********
Try to keep up, that was a myth floated by the little clown. It has been debunked by all media outlets.
But nice try!
Posted by: Katie from Kentucky | July 31, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
A man who was nicknamed McNasty when he was young is now saying Britney Spears and Paris Hilton are not good enough to be president of the United States. How ironic.
Posted by: NoMcNasty | July 31, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
I have to say, all of this name calling is way off base. Democrats who will not vote for Obama (because of Hillary, because he’s arrogant, because McCain is so wonderful, because, because, because…) are not stupid or racist, so let’s stop labeling them as such.
“Democrats” who look at Obama vs. McCain and choose McCain are not Democrats (or liberals, or progressives, or whatever label you want to apply) at all. They can rationalize all they want, but that’s all it is: a rationalization. If you can compare the two on the issues, choose McCain and still look at yourself in the mirror…you’re a Republican.
So, if we’re going to apply names, it’s far more accurate to call these people vindictive, spiteful, and/or willfully ignorant…or possibly just deceitful Republicans who were never really Dems at all and enjoy raising the specter of legions of Dems who won’t vote for Obama.
Posted by: Eric Anderson | July 31, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
It’s not surprising McCain is making false statements. The entire conservative movement was built on a foundation of lies. Without the constant stream of lies, the movement would crumble under reality.
Posted by: Bill | July 31, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Do any of the people in the US actually think that Mccain can out wit Obama in a debate? He can’t even read or remember what he said yesterday. How can he go up against Obama’s intelligence? All of you thinking of voting for McBush probably still have your job. Thanks to 8 years of crap those of us that are out of work may want to try someone that can form a sentence to help with the economy.
Posted by: Eric | July 31, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
George W. Bush has run this country into the ground. He has spent billions of our dollars and sent thousands of our military to die in this needless war. Bush has ignored our Constitution and tortured people against our laws.
And Bush and Cheney who are both oil men have stood silently and smiled as oil companies have stolen billions of dollars from US.
And what does John McCain have to say about all of that? What are his fixes?
He’s too busy putting out ads about Britney Spears and Paris Hilton to actually address the criminal train wreck Presidency we have now.
Disgusting.
Posted by: everwrites | July 31, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Obama, what in the world do you want McCain to do? You refuse to have home town meetings with McCain and take questons from regular American folk. You refuse to hold press conferences with reporters here at home and overseas; and meet with wounded soldiers. Its hard to campaign against a “MESSIAH” who just wants to prance overseas in arenas, with rock stars; give purty general speeches of unity, change and “Yes We Can”
Obama, please don’t whine, its unbecoming for a “MESSIAH”
Posted by: eviee | July 31, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Obama is so lost with out his teleprompter and stolen speeches
Posted by: Eric> | July 31, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Wait a minute. Spears and Hilton make their living from selling their image. Unless it’s a news story in the public interest to use their images without permission is a breach of their rights.
Posted by: Mikey | July 31, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Interesting how when folks are behind 6 – 10 point they can’t wait to debate! Also fascinating how with gas at 5 bucks a gallon no one is finding political ads featuring Hollywood starlets.
Posted by: Indie | July 31, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Obama said. “But so far, all we’ve been hearing about is Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.” —- My, my we are sensitive. I’d expected for half the ad to be about Paris and Britney’s attention grabbing exploits (intentional or not) but their images were there for half a second, almost subliminal. It is sort of like Obama’s balanced podium shots, you can connects the dots and believe it, or not.
Posted by: tiredtoo | July 31, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
How about is that the best you can do, making up with Paris, Phony?
Posted by: fact check | July 31, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
A Debate between Mccain and Obama is no debate at all-Obama will stump old nasty Mccain—McCain does not have a brain-look at those ads- just plain stupid-call him McStupid- Can you imagine McStupid in the white house again!!! No thanks- MCcain is very worried and was worried even when Obama was not the nominee-He always threw out dirt to Obama even then,-FEAR DOES THAT TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO SUBSTANCE- gO AWAY MCCAIN.
Posted by: LOWES4321 | July 31, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
If McCain sees Obama’s counterpart as Britney Spears, who is McCain’s? Grandma Moses?
Posted by: Passin Thru | July 31, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Thank you Mr/Ms Henderson. I feel the same about many of the posts. Sometimes we need to laugh at all the nonsense we all capable of. It does’t matter which side!
Posted by: eviee | July 31, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
To defend something that is invalid, gives it credence. It it much more effective to attack.
Posted by: Passin Thru | July 31, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Answer me this one question. If an “attack ad” attacks w/ the truth, what’s wrong with it? Nothing, and Obama, Inc. knows this. They’re only defense is either the race card, or calling it a “low” attack ad. They have nothing else, because the ad’s substance hits home hard!!!
Bottom line – The Truth Hurts!!!
Posted by: D'Obama | July 31, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
McCain has some nerve! Accusing Obama of being the empty suit – Obama was the first African America President of the Harvard Law Review, a professor and a scholar – McCain graduated 894 out of 899 in college and has shown time and time again that he doesn’t even have basic knowledge of history, geography, or the ecoomy. McCain can’t even get on the internet. I didn’t think it was possible but McCain is starting to make George Bush look smart. Britany, Paris, and John McCain – the air-head club!
Posted by: kate1149 | July 31, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
After reading most of these comments, it’s no wonder “Bush” is our President. What folks don’t seem to realize, gas prices, wages, housing problems, etc., isn’t a lower class problem, it’s a world wide problem. People, you all need to wake up. Senator Obama is the best thing we can vote for in this day and time. There is an old saying, “If you study long, you study wrong.” You can bet, John McCain is definately wrong. Wake up people!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Dee | July 31, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Myth #1: Experience insures Wise Decision Making.
WRONG. Bush had experience. Need I say More? For those saying Barack Obama is an empty suit, he sure has gotten far now hasn’t he. Don’t vote for McCain because he has so called “Experience”..((lets not forget his experience comes from voting with Bush %95 of the time)) If you vote for McCain, vote because You think he will be good for the country…not because he has scared your ass half to death with old politics (much like Bush did to America when running against Kerry) need i say more?
Posted by: BeSmart | July 31, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Danigirl65 -
HRC offered this phony to debated him anywhere, anyplace, anytime. What did this phony do? He chickened out
Now that he makes up some more phony excuses for the appearance of debating, and then accuses others for what he is afraid of. He thinks he was so smart, but he only mastered the worst tactics from Harvard Law School. What a shame for that distinctive institution to have to associate with a phony politician.
Posted by: fact check | July 31, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Mr. BeSmart:
Please explain to me how Obama’s “new” socialist ideas, which have failed the world and only lead to failed economies and even tyrants, better for us? While at the same time, McCain’s “old” ideas – such as the ones that have made us the economic envy of the world, you consider bad?
Something there just don’t compute!
Posted by: D'Obama | July 31, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
The simple fact is that over the last 2 weeks Obama has looked presidential and McCain has not, McCain has looked petty.
You can argue about the benefits of drilling or no drilling and other hot button topics but voters vote for the guy who has their best interest at heart. McCains “don’t vote for him which means there’s only me to vote for” is a losing strategy and here’s why: THERE ARE 4 CANDIDATES IN THE RACE FOR PRESIDENT NOT TWO! John McCain isn’t going to whittle away at Obama’s support by going negative. Obama’s supporters will not waver. But considering Barr and Nader are running, McCain driving up his own negatives will bleed his support to these other two candidates, especially Barr who is seen by many conservatives as a TRUE conservative, unlike McCain. It’s a short sighted betting game on the part of the McCain campaign. Their playing two player poker in a 4 player game.
Posted by: Michael | July 31, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
1) Obama is not a Socialist no matter how much you want to name call.
2) Obama’s plan emphasizes alternate energy instead of giving MORE to the same OIL COMPANIES.
The OIL COMPANIES have a monopoly on energy in this country. John McCain’s candidacy is being FUNDED BY THE OIL COMPANIES.
Yes, I want the candidate who believes in capitalism and who isn’t paid off by the OIL COMPANIES.
Posted by: everwrites | July 31, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
“The simple fact is that over the last 2 weeks Obama has looked presidential and McCain has not, McCain has looked petty.”
Not a fact. just your opinion. Obama has spent the last two weeks looking like a child pretending to be President.
Posted by: geevill | July 31, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
America, time is running out. Seriously, as a friendly neighbor from up north in Canada, I plead with you Americans, don’t vote for a 3rd term Bush. It is not only Eurpeans who believe Obama is the clear choice, but Canadian’s overwhelmingly choose Obama!
Get your head out of the sand and look around. You CANNOT afford to get it wrong again!!!!
Canada for Obama ’08!!!
Posted by: Cyndi | July 31, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
The best shot? No. The night is young.
The RNC just lacks Obama’s half a billon dollar TV budget.
Wait until after Labor Day.
Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | July 31, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
“America, time is running out.”
Ok, I’ll bite. Exactly why is time running out in America?
Oh Canada, do tell?
Posted by: len | July 31, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Everwrites:
1. Sen. Obama supports wealth re-distribution; doing away with our “ownership society” (that’s right, that’s what he implied); giving the federal government more control over our lives and lifestyles; and decimating the free market with government interference. Sorry but that is Socialism!
2. Sen. Obama’s answer to the current skyrocketing price of energy, and more specifically gasoline, is to WAIT TWENTY YEARS for the alternative fuels to SURPASS (NOT ELIMINATE) oil as our primary source of energy. Well wake up America! In 20 years the alternative fuels will be 50.01% of our nation’s energy source. That means oil will still be 49.99% of our nation’s energy source. In the meantime we will be paying $5-$8 per gallon (if not a lot more) — and foreign oil will still make up over 70% of our total intake of oil.
Sen. McCain is calling for drilling here and now; AND building 45 nuclear plants by 2030; AND developing other alternative fuels. Sen. McCain wants to do BOTH increase supply and decrease demand over the next 20 years. THAT will lower our dependency of foreign oil much more quickly.
Posted by: James Danley | July 31, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
People voting for McCain are secretly hoping for the good ole days of 1933.
Posted by: Lynne | July 31, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
jj, you wrote: “And yet Obama is consistently 5-8% ahead in the polls.”
Obviously you haven’t checked the latest polls. The latest Real Clear Politics average of 7 polls has Obama up by just 2.6 points. AND if you only factor in the 4 polls released this week that lead drops to just 1.5 points.
Posted by: James Danley | July 31, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Well, Obama DID say “anytime, anywhere,” not “we’ll give you a counterproposal on that and see if you accept our terms” – so that looks kind of lame.
On the other hand, I think McCain should have taken Obama’s offer and become the real “anytime, anywhere” guy. Another missed opportunity? Hmmm.
Posted by: Wade | July 31, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Hey! I think McCain should just “drop by” one of Obama’s solo town hall meetings and challenge him on the spot! That would be great! Or vice versa! I don’t care, I just want some action…who’s with me?
Posted by: Wade | July 31, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Everwrites:
1. Sen. Obama supports wealth re-distribution; doing away with our “ownership society” (that’s right, that’s what he implied); giving the federal government more control over our lives and lifestyles; and decimating the free market with government interference. Sorry but that is Socialism!
2. Sen. Obama’s answer to the current skyrocketing price of energy, and more specifically gasoline, is to WAIT TWENTY YEARS for the alternative fuels to SURPASS (NOT ELIMINATE) oil as our primary source of energy. Well wake up America! In 20 years the alternative fuels will be 50.01% of our nation’s energy source. That means oil will still be 49.99% of our nation’s energy source. In the meantime we will be paying $5-$8 per gallon (if not a lot more) — and foreign oil will still make up over 70% of our total intake of oil.
Sen. McCain is calling for drilling here and now; AND building 45 nuclear plants by 2030; AND developing other alternative fuels. Sen. McCain wants to do BOTH increase supply and decrease demand over the next 20 years. THAT will lower our dependency of foreign oil much more quickly.
Posted by: James Danley | July 31, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
John McCain is planning for a miltary police state!
Just because I say so! Because it makes me feel good!
(Of course, I don’t believe this. Just seeing what it feels like to be ridiculously claiming over the top assertions. It’s stupid. Barack Obama is not a socialist.)
Since the last eight years have all been lining the pockets of the OIL COMPANIES, I’m more than ready for a President who’s more concerned with the American people – not the OIL MONOPOLY.
Posted by: everwrites | July 31, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Thanks for the clarification WRY.
I’m sure that it was not your intention but, establishing this premise seems to make the Obama is afraid to debate McCain rant a little less plausible, don’t you think? At any rate, we shall see what happens in the debates in the near future. It will be interesting to see what everyone’s perception will be after the debates. Clearly, without objectivity, no one will conceed their candidate performed poorly.
Posted by: Nik | July 31, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
“Given the seriousness of the issues, you’d think we could have a serious debate,” Obama said.”
I can’t believe Obama said that. That’s the kind of comment McCain should run ads with. Average Joe voter doesn’t even know that Obama refuses to debate McCain. A “what are you afraid of” ad would be very effective.
Posted by: Dave B | July 31, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
John McCain is a royalist, he can’t wait to be King of the United States. He wants to encroach on the powers of a representative congress. Establish the permanent Republican Majority, that will cede all power to the executive branch. The Republican presidents will always be elected by super-patriot testing and character assasination. I stated this out as a joke post, but it’s sounding a little to close to the truth now isn’t it?
Posted by: Sanity Man | July 31, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
If McCain thinks Obama is like Brittany or Paris, then he really IS too old!!!
Posted by: John | July 31, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Attack Obama as another pop celebrity – it obviously works.
Obama owes his success to the fawning, star-struck media…he is just like every other pop star.
In fact, attack Obama on every thing he says he is strong on – it is all a house of cards.
Posted by: Sally J. | July 31, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Intelligent people discuss ideas, average people discuss things, and mediocrities discuss other people. It would appear that Sen. McCain’s campaign fully lies in the latter category.
Posted by: chuck | July 31, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
So-called Democrats voting for McCain are not Democrats, they are hypocrites.
Posted by: Liz in Texas | July 31, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Democrats for McCain=Hypocrite………Hypocrite: Origin: 1175–1225;… a stage actor, hence one who pretends to be what he is not.
Posted by: Liz in Texas | July 31, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
“1. Sen. Obama supports wealth re-distribution; doing away with our “ownership society” (that’s right, that’s what he implied); ”
a – by ownership society, do you mean as in ‘You’re on your own?’. But seriously, please give me a source wherein Obama calls for an end to property rights. Or even where you “think” he “implies” abandoning property rights.
b – don’t you think bailing out Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac are wealth redistribution in their rawest form?
“giving the federal government more control over our lives and lifestyles;”
I think you are confused here – Obama favours civil unions and gay adoption rights. It’s McCain who wants to interfere with lives and lifestyles.
“and decimating the free market with government interference.”
The free market that had “Wall Street get drunk” (quoting W) and has the economy tanking and the freedom loving billionaires crying for federal bailouts?
“Sorry but that is Socialism!”
Actually, abolition of property rights and rule over lives and lifestyles is more communist/Stalinist.
But even speaking of socialism proper, Obama is not that.
Posted by: johnny | July 31, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
This is a monumental election – our country is in peril – we need some real leadrship. Bush has been the worst thing that has happened to America. Now we will spend years undoing the damage he’s inflicted. We need someone who will put the focus and energy back into our country and making it great again. Obama offers that hope and the intellect to make the right decisions. McCain offers more of the same, narrow minded thinking that got us into this situation.
Posted by: Monika Boyer | July 31, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
McCain is talking about the issues and the action he’ll take as president. Of course, Obama couldn’t possibly know that, since he’s scared to attend a Town Hall with McCain or *gasp* square off with him in a Debate.
Posted by: marylou | July 31, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Johnny, when the federal government takes full control of our national health care system and replaces it with womb-to-tomb universal health care, preventative health care will become a huge component of our health care system. Under the guise of prevention, the federal government will determine what you can eat and drink; what products you can buy; and in the not too far off future–in the guise of preventing an unhealthy overpopulation–abortions will become mandatory for couples after the first or second child.
California is considering controlling private thermostats through a radio-controlled device for new or substantially modified houses and buildings to manage electricity shortages. In addition, California is considering banning the common light bulb and requiring the use of compact fluorescent light bulbs (in spite of the unhealthful levels of mercury contained therein). And several school districts have already banned sodas from being sold in their schools.
Now as for government’s interference with the free market, Sen. Obama and the Democrats in Congress are advocating a windfall profit tax on the oil companies. That is interfering with the free market by limiting profits. (NOTE: Congress implemented a windfall profit tax from 1980-1988. And the U. S. domestic production of oil dropped between 1.2% and 4.8% during the 9 years.) It is important to note that the last thirty years of blocking offshore drilling, blocking the building of new refineries and nuclear plants is a prime example of government’s interference with the free market.
For a more current example, the Los Angeles City Council unanimously approved placing a moratorium on new fast-food restaurants in South Los Angeles in an attempt to encourage restaurants with healthier menus. The measure is now awaiting the Mayor’s signature to become law. This is clearly interfering with the free market.
Now as for property rights, individuals currently receiving welfare and SSI are limited to the amount of assets they can have. Once the federal government fully takes over our health care system, private health insurance will be targeted for elimination and replaced with a Medicare type program. A limitation on assets will soon follow.
I know you will say that Sen. Obama has never advocated eliminating private health insurance, and you would be correct. However, Sen. Clinton in one of the debates stated that those individuals who are pleased with their current health insurance will be allowed to keep their insurance — “For Now!” While Sen. Obama may not be advocating the elimination of private health insurance, it is the goal of the Far Left. And a President Obama will not veto the legislation should it pass.
Posted by: James Danley | July 31, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Lynne, and if the global warming extremists have their way we will be back to 1833.
Posted by: James Danley | July 31, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
why scapegoat people.
yes ‘HE’ appears as a ‘STRONG CELEBRITY’
Why not alone by himself,or with HERCULES? SUPERMAN?,
Why Paris Hilton,Britney Spears,etc.?
What’s Up?
Why do the RAPPERS NEED TO GET INTO THIS?
Why stir up something?
PLEASE ,PLEASE,IGNORE ALL TRHIS
It is not relevant,t is IRRELEVANT!!!
PLease pay attenton to HIS JOB,PLEASE!!!
Posted by: Loretta Sue Phillips | July 31, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
This is what America is sick of. These silly ads that are complete wastes of time and have nothing to do with the issues at hand. Especially given the many issues that most Americans are dealing with today and this is the best McCain can do to reach out to the American people.
Posted by: Robert Paul | July 31, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
I think Dems should nominee a democrate at the convention.
PUMA for Hillary Clinton!
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | July 31, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Obama: “Is that the best you can come up with?” … well, it may not be as good as solving our energy problem, by adding air to our tires. but, hey Obama … if you want substance between you and McCain … then, why do you refuse to debate him in 10 town hall meetings? Obama has been attacking his opponents … first Hillary … now McCain, by way of his supporters … who he has to keep distancing himself from, only after they’re caught that is, to give the appearance that he is not involved in the attacks. As far as Obama looking different than the Presidents on our dollar bills … this presumptuous, pompous, arrogant candidate is probably already planning how he will redesign our currency, with his picture on it, like the way he redesigned the Presidential seal … that is, whenever he can take some time away from accusing everybody who disagrees with him of being a racist. Obama is a cry baby, who is not qualified to be President of the United States.
Posted by: Howard | July 31, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Johnny, when the federal government takes full control of our national health care system and replaces it with womb-to-tomb universal health care, preventative health care will become a huge component of our health care system. Under the guise of prevention, the federal government will determine what you can eat and drink; what products you can buy; and in the not too far off future–in the guise of preventing an unhealthy overpopulation–abortions will become mandatory for couples after the first or second child.
California is considering controlling private thermostats through a radio-controlled device for new or substantially modified houses and buildings to manage electricity shortages. In addition, California is considering banning the common light bulb and requiring the use of compact fluorescent light bulbs (in spite of the unhealthful levels of mercury contained therein). And several school districts have already banned sodas from being sold in their schools.
Now as for government’s interference with the free market, Sen. Obama and the Democrats in Congress are advocating a windfall profit tax on the oil companies. That is interfering with the free market by limiting profits. (NOTE: Congress implemented a windfall profit tax from 1980-1988. And the U. S. domestic production of oil dropped between 1.2% and 4.8% during the 9 years.) It is important to note that the last thirty years of blocking offshore drilling, blocking the building of new refineries and nuclear plants is a prime example of government’s interference with the free market.
For a more current example, the Los Angeles City Council unanimously approved placing a moratorium on new fast-food restaurants in South Los Angeles in an attempt to encourage restaurants with healthier menus. The measure is now awaiting the Mayor’s signature to become law. This is clearly interfering with the free market.
Now as for property rights, individuals currently receiving welfare and SSI are limited to the amount of assets they can have. Once the federal government fully takes over our health care system, private health insurance will be targeted for elimination and replaced with a Medicare type program. A limitation on assets will soon follow.
I know you will say that Sen. Obama has never advocated eliminating private health insurance, and you would be correct. However, Sen. Clinton in one of the debates stated that those individuals who are pleased with their current health insurance will be allowed to keep their insurance — “For Now!” While Sen. Obama may not be advocating the elimination of private health insurance, it is the goal of the Far Left. And a President Obama will not veto the legislation should it pass.
Posted by: James Danley | July 31, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Obama Is All Fluff & No Stuff!
Posted by: Not Fooled | July 31, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
This Democrat is voteing for McCain. Plus 7 more I know. Obama is All Fluff and No Feathers! Hw was too chicken to meet McCain at a Town Hall meeting!
Posted by: NoTrustObama | July 31, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I really wonder about this country some times. So many people seem so easily led by these low-road, insulting, meaningless attacks. From the housing collapse – yet to hit bottom we hear today – to the way we’re becoming indebted to China to the tune of a half trillion dollars a year (oh, that’s great for our economy, jobs, etc.)… to the way the oil companies just get richer. It’s time for a change people, you have to make a difference, rather than letting the same terror tactics drive you to vote for people who just want to bleed you. McCain is not your friend… he is a bitter, failed, oligarch who has no clue about the modern world and would just drive this country deeper into ruin. Why can you not see this? Oh, right, Fox said he was a hero. That’s certainly credible.
Posted by: sad sad country | July 31, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Easy answer…Obama lies alot, is a crook, and is many a murdering terrorist’s friend, and wants to hike taxes. Why are the the Canadians to dense to catch on a guy that is so obviously wrong..
Posted by: chattyway | July 31, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Obama’s response “Is that the best he can come up with” to McCain’s add with Spears sounds not unlike Bush’s “Bring it on” to the terrorists. A remark Bush later said he most regretted making.There is an arrogance reminiscent of Mohammad Ali taunting his opponents.Good when done by Ali in the ring, not good when done by Bush or Obama.
Posted by: Andrew O'Donnell | July 31, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
I doubt seriously that Obama is ducking any debates with McCain. Obama would debate circles around McCain’s gaffe prone self. I am still waiting for McCain to explain what makes him think that he can catch Bin Laden when our intelligence agencies and our military haven’t been able to? If he does know something then how come he isn’t sharing this information? What war has he fought and won that gives him the credibility to claim that he knows how to win wars?
Posted by: The Man | July 31, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
McCain has admitted that he doesn’t know much about the economy or the internet and continues to make a ton of verbal blunders. McCain has no executive experience, has never ran a government or business or controlled a budget yet he is throwing the inexperienced claim at Obama. I can’t believe that people are willing to vote for this guy. What makes McCain such an expert on national security? McCain has a less than stellar career and 9/11 happened on under his and Bush’s watch.
Posted by: The Man | July 31, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
For all of you folks who claim that Obama is scared or ducking the 10 town hall debates with McCain; you are missing the point. IT WAS A TRAP that McCain was setting up for Obama; but Obama didn’t fall for it. Obama agreed to 2 town hall debates, but McCain insisted on 10. The trap was to make Obama spend so much time on those little town hall debates and not enough time on the campaign trail where he needs to be to introduce himself to the american voters.
Since he is new in the national stage, a lot of people don’t know him and want to know who he is and what he stands for, he needs that much time for campaigning to introduce and tell people about himself. Doing 10 town hall debates would take too much time off his campaigning and would only give McCain more publicity and would not be politically advantagous to him. Maybe you folks should ask McCain why he didn’t agree to the 2 debates Obama agreed to? After all, they will eventually have to debate the issues. It’s just a matter of time.
Posted by: Adler Herard | July 31, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
McCain is also lucky that he won’t have to debate against Obama till later on. Obama is much more articulate, knows the issues well and communicates so much better than McSame.
I’d love to see them debate right now though. So that we can put this to rest that Obama is afraid to debate. He will absolutely slaughter the old man when it comes to talking about issues in a debate.
Posted by: Jordan | July 31, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
In reading some of these posts, I am struck by the irony that anyone who has such unlimited access to research the facts on both candidates’ policies on and expert opinion concerning them the Internet would regurgitate what has been pushed in :30 second commercials and news sound bytes.
After 7 years of having a below average student as president running the economy like he’s using Quickbooks for a 4 man shop, I’m ready for a President who consults with top economic, military, and environmental experts on both sides of the argument, in order to derive a good path.
Posted by: Animal Farmish | July 31, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Anybody still concerned w/these two polititions are missing the entire picture. Constitution Party is the only candidate that gives a hoot about the USA.
Posted by: bittersweet4u | July 31, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
For those who say Obama is dummy? How can Obama be a dummy?
Point 1: “He graduated with a J.D. magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991.”
Point 2: “Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, as a Lecturer for four years (1992–1996), and as a Senior Lecturer for eight years (1996–2004).”
McCain finished 5th from the bottom in his class…a low class rank (894 of 899) that he did not aim to improve.
You tell me which guy is the dummy. To make statements saying Barack is an idiot is to sound like an idiot yourself. Don’t take this to mean that you lack an education. My statement is all about you lacking common sense to even throw out those words – you truly sound like an idiot.
Posted by: Animal Farmish | July 31, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
mericans, I gotta say we have lost it. We look for all sorts of idiotic things to indicate that someone is presidential material – “Has he been in the political spotlight long enough? Can he drink with me? Can he kiss babies?”
Here is what you need to see about a leader, which is what the POTUS is about. 1. Does he have the respect of his peers? Why? Because he will need to influence heads-of-state on trade and global issues to put forward the American agenda. 2. Can he motivate and manage people. Check out the campaigns people: where is money? where is the ground game being organized? How oiled has the campaign been? Has technology hindered or helped the management of the campaign? Does he have an eye for technology? Why? There isn’t a job that isn’t affected by technology in America – if the POTUS has never turned on a PC, much less a blackberry – what the hell does he know about alternative technologies – or the next wave of technological innovation to need government assistance to grow into exportable product to retire debt?
Another bit of irony is this: We complain about the educational system and it appears there is a valid complaint, just not in math and science but in civics.
Posted by: Animal Farmish | July 31, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
I’m to the point of feeling that people who decide not to initiate a 3 hour self-education sprint on political candidate policies should be restricted from voting because you are screwing up America’s future. There should be a quiz to vote: (1) Is Barack a Muslim? “Yes”…Ennghg! “Wrong! Nine more questions left.” “Is McCain for or against torture methods being used by the CIA? Anwser: “Against.” Ennngh! Wrong: “He is for it.”
This whole idiocy surrounding debates…When does a President ever get the chance to engage in debate while in office? When did debating become a skill for Presidency?
A President needs to lead and nothing more. CEOs don’t do -they lead.
Posted by: Animal Farmish | July 31, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Please people, after 8 years of Republican run government, don’t be fooled anymore by the free-market argument.
The free-market argument is good for the economics class. What’s in the best interests of governments and there people are “balanced markets.” To let the market run-amuck would create too many spikes and valleys that would do more damage to the economy as a whole. We need just enough regulation – not “FREE”, not government, but just enough. “FREE” is an illusion. If markets were truly free, we would have the Fed and we’d have complete de-regulation of everything.
Hmmm? Where did we have deregulation of industries…1) Energy and we got Enron and similar activities… 2) financial institutions, banks, and by the way thanks to Phil Gramm, McCain’s economic advisor because now we have the credit crisis.
Posted by: Animal Farmish | July 31, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
We wouldn’t have the Fed if markets were completely FREE.
Posted by: Animal Farmish | July 31, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Siding with the oil companies worked financially for John McCain:
Campaign contributions from oil industry executives to Sen. John McCain rose dramatically in the last half of June, after the senator from Arizona made a high-profile split with environmentalists and reversed his opposition to the federal ban on offshore drilling.
Oil and gas industry executives and employees donated $1.1 million to McCain last month — three-quarters of which came after his June 16 speech calling for an end to the ban — compared with $116,000 in March, $283,000 in April and $208,000 in May
Posted by: DaveB | July 31, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
If McCain thinks an ad about Barack Obama with Paris Hilton,and Brttiney Spears will affect Barack’s campaign he is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. It will in fact have a MAJOR affect but maybe not the one McCain was looking for. As a teen I am in the stage of my life where I may make some horrible mistakes some that may make or break me, as celebrities Brittney and Paris have built there careers off of some of these mistakes. However there is always time for me to change and though it would seem to take miracle to see Paris’and Brittney’s lives CHANGE it could still happen. It that what Barack stands for anyway? Seeing the obvious bad and making a CHANGE
Posted by: Jasmine | July 31, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
that’s funny, especially since Paris’ parents are HUGE McCain supporters.
why trash on your constituents McCain? That’s pretty dirty.
oh, and the gall of Barack Obama to get the world looking at the United States optimistically! How DARE you.
Posted by: smokin joe | August 1, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
It would take Elvis passing out peanut butter sandwiches, to top the Paris Hilton ad.
Posted by: jomojo333 | August 1, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am
I find it amusing that McCain chooses to compare Obama to celebrities because which party is it that historically elects celebrities, pitchers, football coaches etc (i.e. Reagan, Sonny Bono, Schwarzenegger, Fred Grandy, Tom Osborne, Jim Bunting, Fred Thompson)? Can someone please clarify that for us?
Posted by: dk | August 1, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am
find it amusing that McCain chooses to compare Obama to celebrities because which party is it that historically elects celebrities, pitchers, football coaches etc (i.e. Reagan, Sonny Bono, Schwarzenegger, Fred Grandy, Tom Osborne, Jim Bunting, Fred Thompson)? Can someone please clarify that for us?
Posted by: dk |
Simple, These are REAL celebrities, Obama is just a wanna be.
Posted by: oh lord | August 1, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
McCain just lost his cred when he said he was proud of that bad, sad ad that unfairly took advantage of two of his own supporters. How do you think Brit and Paris feel being held up as idiots? What a way to thank your constituents..
Posted by: MaeScott | August 1, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
Somethimes the truth hurts, which is what McCain is telling via his latest campaign ad. Looks like it worked to get under Obama’s skin, because he is responding to it. The truth is that the DNC campaign has been all about hype – JFK’s speechwriter prepares the lines which are on the teleprompter or memorized – just like for Hollywood actors. A top celebrity or band does the event kick-off, just like a Hollywood production. Nothing about the issues – too boring, spotlighting his divisive diversion tactics – all fluff and no substance, but tabloid-like media coverage. The Obama ‘campaign hype’ is cool and fun, just woefully INEFFECTIVE based on his lack of credentials and experience and his inherent inability to see beyond Chicago and Hawaii. Why no debates? why no substance? why no solutions that can be practically implemented? Why continually diss other’s ideas and get laughs by scratching your face with your finger when you say another candidate’s name? The DNC campaign has been disrespectful to the people’s intelligence.
Posted by: Jane | August 1, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
Obama talks about issues! McCain talks about nonsense!
Posted by: Jim | August 1, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
This mccain ad is in very poor taste. LEts face it – Britney Spears, before she hit 21, sold over 50 million albums worldwide and was worth over $100 million. She was the world’s biggest pop star – she is not an empty clebrity who had achieved nothing! She generated tens of millions of dollars in exports for America as the world’s biggest pop star – McCain wasn’t complianing then. So to pick on her now, at a time she’s hit it really low personally and professionally, and is actually sick and in intense therapy/rehab, is cruel at best – its pretty mean spirited.
Posted by: Ash | August 2, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
8-house mccain has been a celebrity for quite some time– and now he’s starting to come across as the jealous old man. anyone remember mccain in the wedding crashers?
even mccain’s own website referred to him as a celebrity until a few weeks ago.
Posted by: jrc | August 3, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
McCain is talking about the issues and the action he’ll take as president. ==========Yea Right… he will protect us
from Pairs Hilton… LOL.. but who will
protect us form Mcbush…..Id vote
for Pairs Hilton before McSame…
She seems to have better Ideas than
He does on the Issues!
Posted by: Anita Yova | August 6, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
The celebrity ad is, clearly, the most successful ad of the campaign so far, (although I suspect that there are harder hitting ones still to come). Why? Because everyone is talking about it and BHO is being defined. The words ‘Obama’ and ‘celebrity’ are now inexorably linked in peoples’ minds. Also, the Obamites have, obviously, got their knickers in a twist over this one which, again, implies its effectiveness. BHO has been on the defensive all week with his flip-flop on offshore drilling and his tire inflation ‘policy’. It has been a good week for McCain.
Posted by: Marty | August 6, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Republicans routinely spend more time telling voters why not to vote for their opponent rather than why they should vote for them.
Posted by: Isaac | August 7, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
OK so what if he does have a celebrity type appeal and people all around the world like him, is that a bad thing? Old man Bush had it right when asked what he felt about Barack’s trip to Europe with the McSame standing next to him, he replied “Jealous”, simply jealous. And that is what this is all about Jealousy! Quite frankly, I like the idea of possibly, finally having a president that is likable and can put together a decent sentence, went to Harvard and can meet with world leaders and represent America honorably, and open to diplomacy. I hope the American people are no so small minded as the GOP seem to think. It is clear they are trying to turn BO’s popularity against him because they’re trying to stop this freight train. Unfortunately, some will bite this bait, but I went to school, and I’m smarter than that. By the way, I was not 5th from the bottom of my class! the contrast is stunning between the candidates in EVERY respect. As for me and my family, the obvious choice is OBAMA ’08.
Posted by: Debra Moore | August 7, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Actually, it is even more insidious than that. Obama himself has run his entire campaign on charisma. The fact is he has had his cake and eaten too for a while now, but that’s up because once you claim the mantle of most popular, there is no turning back Dorothy. His only escape will be to take hard, firm positions which we know very well is entirely contrary to his campaign strategy. It is the campaign anti-strategy: vote for me because I sound and look good but don’t look at my track record because I will make it up on your dime and time. Frankly, it’s refreshing to see his fall back to earth.
Posted by: Fred | August 7, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
I actually don’t get the MCCain ad using Britany and Paris. It seems so lame and desperate.
What do two skinny white chics have to do with an articulate candidate who is in touch withthe problems of Americans from many classes, reaces, and cultures?I am proud that we have someone running who is engaging people, trying to inspire us and to unite our nation except for those of course who like division, scapegoating, and racism. Aren’t we tired of all this? I am excited that other nations who have been our allies are energized also by Obama’s message of change. The best defense in the world is to have strong friends guarding our back. McCain needs to focus on his own message instead of being jealous of Obama. What is his message? What happened to the McCain who promised the high road, the one who showed integrity and independent thinking.
Unfortunately this ad is another indications of how much the mean spirited Republican machine has coopted him. What a shame!
Posted by: ruiz0416 | August 11, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm