Obama: For Denouncing Clark Before He Was Against It?

Wow. I’m predicting we’ll get further “clarification” on the faith-based initiatives speech.
And Iraq. And gay marriage.
Andandandandand

No word on Mccain’s tax default,his lobbyists.
This is so partial.The press is Mccain’s base.

Obama is flakier and wishy washier than John Kerry ever was. Lord help us if this guy gets elected. I never thought there could be anybody worse than George Bush but I was wrong.

Do we really intend for McCain’s service record to function as a magic shield that prevents anyone from being able to state the obvious?
It seems to me that running for the fainting couch because someone answered a direct question with a direct answer may be called many things but courageous is not among them.
It’s interesting to watch the press circling the wagons around this non-outrage. But protecting the McCain myth seems to be job one….

The faith-based initiative is highly remarkable. I will voice support for it. Listen to the speech. I admire the way he is defining himself. I think that idea comes from his work as a community organiser where the church was helping feed the hungry and taking care of HIV-AIDS patients. It is an activity many evangelicals are engaging in. I can attest to Catholic church because I worship there. That is a program that they would love to be. involved it.

Basically what I got out of Wesley Clark’s dismissiveness of McCain’s record and experience is that it seems he thinks McCain is not ready to be president, and by comparison that would mean Obama is not ready BY A LONG SHOT.
Good to know.

It was a great speech and I’m sure he Obama put a lot of time and thought into it. I believe him.
Anybody recall the last time ABC published and article critical of McCain

Barack’s a hero?
Lol. That’s a good one. Tony Rezko agrees. He’s waiting for Obama to be president to get his pardon and that house he bought Barack will have all been worth it.
Make us laugh some more.

Obama will lose and it won’t even be close.
I can’t wait for that day. The same people who cried in 2004 will be crying once again.
Live it, learn it, love it.

Senator Obama is an 8.9 earthquake ready to happen. You just don’t know when.

Brandon, McCain doesn’t say his war experience is what qualifies him.
I believe he counts his senatorial and senate armed forces committee experience as the ones that count.
Nice try though, but you lose again.

When polled 28% of Hillary voters said they won’t vote for Obama.
There’s your PUMA results. OUCH!!
By the way NRA plans to spend $40 million in ads – ooops….that means lots and lots of campaign ads showing Obama’s complete flip flops and LIES on gun rights!!
LOLOLOL. Love it, love it, love it!

Obama last November: FOR the DC Handgun ban. Said it was constitutional.
Obama now: SCOTUS made the right decision!
LOLOL. Only idiots believe this guy.

Basically what Wesley Clark is saying is that McCain isn’t qualified and Obama is even LESS qualified!
Thanks Gen. Clark!
Game over. You lose.

julie
do you believe mccain?
he says one thing to latinos and another to republicans
one thing to log cabin republicans
and another to republicans
one thing to voters another to backers
lol
yea i believe what mccain says
i also believe jo is sane

jo i thought your candidate mccain was going to stop outside 527′s
i guess thats another flip from mccain
oh well
hes just another
fair weather candidate

because its the only thing the republicans got
especially this year
a song comes to mind
nowhere to run to baby, you got nowhere to hide

Nancy there is not one fact in that post.
that is the problem people who brought us George Bush are trying to use the “non-facts” to throw an election again.
well some of us love this country than to let another election be thrown on innuendo and fear cr*p

Obama is almost flip-flopping on every major issue. MSM called this “running to the center”. Heck, where does he really stand? Does he have any principles? Does he always change with the political wind? Is that the change we can believe in? What a clown!

I don’t understand why everyone is so quick to jump on Obama here. It seems fairly clear to me. Only when you have no tolerance for shades of gray does it become a flip-flop.
1) “Clark’s views do not reflect his own.” Okay. Could be completely true, or maybe he didn’t have a chance to hear the comments with context yet.
2) “Monday’s speech wasn’t about Clark.” Probably not. Maybe his staffers thought the best thing was to say it was about them. Staffers aren’t the candidate, and sometimes make mistakes.
3) “Obama doesn’t think Clark needs to apologize.” Either he heard the context and decided that Clark wasn’t actually disparaging McCain’s service, or he thinks Clark is qualified to stand up for himself and hold his own opinion.
These don’t seem that inconsistent to me. And any honest analysis of Gen. Clark’s statements will see that he is saying no more or less than that McCain’s experience does not lead in and of itself to being a great president. He was reflecting Bob Scheiffer’s wording, who suggested that by Obama not having been shot down over Vietman and McCain’s having that experience somehow made a difference in terms of readiness to be Commander in Chief. Gen. Clark pointed out, rightly, that it is not, in fact, a legitimate logic.

The main thing people remember about General Clark is that he started berating the Bush administration back a few years ago, and then video was uncovered where just months before he was praising him to the hilt.
He’s such a joke and everyone is figuring it out.
Adios Obama. Adios General Clark. People know you’re both traitors.

General Clark use to think military was good experience for Commander in Chief.
You know, back when HE was running for president!
LOLOL.
You can’t make this stuff up!

I find this issue kind of ridiculous. What General Clark said was that being shot down doesn’t make someone commander in chief material. That’s true. His statement was in direct response to someone else purporting that McCain is commander in chief material and Obama is not because Obama wasn’t shot down in an airplane. The real problem here is that the only thing McCain really has going for him is his military record. Okay, he’s a hero, but every hero shouldn’t be President of the United States. The MSM ought to find something that’s news to talk about — or maybe even be honest about this statement — rather than jumping on the Republican bandwagon. In fact, I think the Republicans want Clark out of the picture because he could easily challenge McCain on his lack of credentials to be commander in chief, including his untreated PTSD and accompanying hot temper. Do we really want McCain to have his finger on the button? I know I don’t, and millions of others don’t either. It’s terrifying, the thought, and the MSM needs to equally vet this man.

Just so you understand your simile’s, Benedict Arnold was THE most capable general in the American Revolutionary Army, personally led troops in many daring exploits and had his leg shot off, and single-handedly created the US Navy. The reason he tried to turn West Point over to the British, was the rest of the US army was overrun with ignorant elitists trying to look good by serving as officers in a war as befitting their status as rich heirs. Sort of like George Bush without the stupid cowboy talk.

I care more about the economy so I’m posting this “Barack Obama on the economy” Fortune’s Washington editor, Nina Easton, interviewed Barack Obama
Obama: I think that if we don’t get a handle on our energy policy, it is possible that the kinds of trends we’ve seen over the last year will just continue.
Demand is clearly outstripping supply. It’s not a problem I think we can drill our way out of. Consumers are obviously painfully having to adapt to rising gas prices, but it can be a drag on our economy for a very long time unless we take steps to innovate and invest in the research and development that’s required to find alternative fuels, make our transportation system much more energy-efficient. Retool our industry and our buildings. And the market can accomplish a lot of that through some pretty wrenching retooling, but I think it’s very important for the federal government to have a role in that process as well. So that’s something that is immediate.
No Ground Hog Day movie for this voter. Nina Easton is covering a issue we all care about.

Good Judgment. Senator Obama has based his entire campaign for president on his opposition to the Iraq War as an example of his good judgment. He takes credit for opposing a vote that he was never asked to make while not representing a constituency, especially one that was directly affected by the attacks of September 11, 2001. This only proves that it easy to play Monday morning quarterback in the relative comfort of your own home.
Now Ret. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter and surrogate for the presumptive nominee, is claiming that this Good Judgment is a superior qualification for Commander-in Chief than a full military education at the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis and service to our country during a war. As a voter that will not support or vote for either candidate, I think it is the poorest of judgment on the part of this candidate and his campaign to field a surrogate that promotes this view. We all know that our military academy graduates are trained to command troops in times of war or peace.
While I too opposed the war from the start I do not pretend that this makes me qualified to be Commander-in-Chief. I am concerned about the safety of our troops. On the matter of military affairs and national security I would trust the judgment of the Annapolis trained Naval Officer over the Monday morning quarterback to make decisions or to command our troops.

Wow! All this knit picking is so rediculous. It has nothing to do with the price of gas or putting food on the table or with health care.
I don’t even know much about this Clark guy and I have seen what he has said on television, and frankly, he’s right. Everyone’s jumping on someone for having an opinion in America! Wow, we sure are holier than Thou, aren’t we? We just jump all over something anyone says these days. The guy didn’t even say anything wrong or bad. Lots of people share his thoughts and feelings. I mean, do you have to serve in the military to do lots of things? No. It is not something that qualifies you to do it all, including President of the USA. He didn’t say McCain was stupid or anything.
As for Obama, he has no reason to say he’s sorry for anything. He didn’t say it, and frankly, he told us what he thought in his speech. But everyone always tries to tie him to the mouths of others. If we did that to everyone we knew, no one would even be on speaking terms. Bottom line…we’re making mountains out of mole hills. I’m an Independent voter. None of this he said she said, did you hear this, did you hear that playground stuff is going to influence me.
Obama is clearly the best man for the job.
Obama 08!!!!!!!!!!

sooo very convenient for Sen Mccain…Obama should cut Clark loose… talk about leading by example Where is Black?

Obama gets contributions from crooked profiteers who are slum lords to his own constituents and this makes him qualified to be our commander?
Thanks to Ayers, he becomes chairman of the Annenberg Chicago Challenge and in 5 years spends $100 mil on certain Chicago schools that turn out not to have improved appreciably from the schools that were not helped. And for this he wants to be the shepherd of the economy?
Lets forget this patriotism farce and get back to the question… “what makes Obama qualified?” Clark could not answer that so he attacked McCain. Why doesn’t Clark answer the question?!

McCain is trying to base his campaign on his military experience because his pathetic record reflects a virtual lock step mirror of voting with Bush on nearly every damn thing. Of course he’s going to get his panties in knot when a fellow military man calls him out on the only thing that’s distracting voters from the fact that McCain is a bona-fide Bushie, and that a McCain presidency is indeed a third Bush term. Voters will not have that. Deal with that Jo.

Senator McCain’s resume is completely full and professional. Obama’s has a very thin resume anbd filled with Rezko, Ayers, Sinclair, Rev. Wright, Trinty Church (hate and racism against) White people) and other questionable supporters. His state senate run was a sham. Just ask those who served with him. Senator Obama is basically dishonest and not deserving of the candidancy.

Obama wasn’t backing down on what he said earlier about Clark, for goodness sake! He was merely saying that the lines in his speech weren’t specifically aimed at Clark.
This “criticism” is begging the question. First off you have to assume that Obama really was referring to Clark in the speech. Then you can say the “reversal” would surprise “Monday Obama”. Jake should just look into whether the remarks were actually directed at Clark, in the first place, before jumping to talk of a “reversal”.
This is the picture the media is trying to paint of Obama right now. It’s lazy. Half the time they don’t even know what the original stance was, they just push everything into the same mold whether it fits or not.

God help America if this idiot gets into the White House. He couldn’t make a hard and firm decision to save his life – or ours.

Rob, get your facts right on General Clark before you shoot your mouth off again. He was fired for putting the safety of his troops and success of his mission ahead of PR in his leadership in Kosovo.

I think BO should hire a stenographer to follow him around. Then he could just have his words repeated back to himself before he changes a story, position, etc. It’s gotta be really hard to track that stuff on your own when you’re spinning stuff constantly.

He of shifting positions and very few convictions…

I am way tired of the expectation that we all need to genuflect at the altar of McCain’s sacrifice. Many presidential candidates and Presidents (G.H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, George McGovern) served and sacrificed. None of them exploited their service as shamelessly as McCain has.
Instead of exalting his own sacrifice and questioning the patriotism and/or judgement of anyone who questions it, I’d rather he come up with a plan for stopping the sacrifices that he and Bush are eagerly subjecting young American men and women to in Iraq. A stupid, ideologues’ war…sold by lies…prosecuted with incompetence…while the real enemy reconstitutes and gains strength.

no len,
I want to put in my order for 8.
that is 4 for the cars in my driveway i can’t afford to drive,
and four to put on the bikes.

The Judy Collins song — Both Sides Now — is REALLY funny! I quite enjoyed it — too bad it’s so true.

Don’t worry about overseas sir.
Welsh PR guru’s at heart of Obama campaign by Martin Shipton, Western Mail.
Maesteg-born Steve Morgan will be in charge of foreign media relations when the Democratic Party holds its week-long Convention in Denver, Colorado, next month. It is there Senator Obama will be officially confirmed as the Democratic challenger to contest the presidency with Republican nominee John McCain.

As opposed to those that did not go directly to the battlefield and risk their lives such as Bush, Cheney, etc, and others that were able to rise through the top ranks and avoid direct battle exposure, McCain has more of an ability to have compassion, understanding the human cost of war and the toll that it takes from his POW and veteran experience. Mr. Clark’s argument that being able to craft a better strategic/intellectual tactical plan as he is claiming superior skill in doing, shows a real immaturity in the level of decision making that he is hoping to contribute in. I’m sure that there is no shortage of highly trained military experts that have military tactical planning experience,likewise according to the same argument Rumsfeld should be even more qualified than everyone put together to be the next president of the United States. However the value in McCain is in making the final decision, having more of a heart to understand what we are all getting into and all the more reluctant to go to war, once given the technical information that is readily obtained by mainy Pentagon trained officials.

General Wesley Clarke was FIRED as a military man. He has no credibility. He should keep his mouth shut and Obama should pick better people to speak for him.

Golly gee wiz, how long will it take Senator Obama to disassociate himself with General Clark? It took him months to finally do it with his pastor so what is he afraid of?