Obama On Tonight’s Berlin Speech: “A Crapshoot”
How does one prepare to speak to a million screaming Germans?
I asked Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, this question as he boarded O Force One and came back to the reporters’ veal pen before the plane took off from Tel Aviv, Israel to Berlin, Germany.
This evening Obama will give a speech at the Victory Column at Tiergaten Park.
"I doubt we’re gonna have a million screaming Germans," Obama said.
Half a million? asked another reporter.
"Let’s tamp down expectations here," Obama said. "If we get a few tens of thousands…"
Obama said he "did not realize – my staff basically just told me that this space is bigger than I realized. So."
Asked a reporter: Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
"Uh, it’s a potentially bad thing if nobody shows up," Obama said, laughing. "You know, we’re sort of on the high wire all of the sudden. It’s like, ‘I’m sorry, how many people does this accommodate? How many?’…We really have no idea what’s going to happen. Sort of a crapshoot. I’m happy with the speech though."
A reporter noted that the campaign has been distributing fliers to Berliners to drum up attendance.
"Why don’t you guys go out and distribute some fliers?" Obama asked. "Is that a conflict for you guys?"
Joked a cable news correspondent: "We have been. It’s called television."
Obama said tonight’s address will not be "a wonkish policy speech…We started working on it about two weeks ago, about two weeks ago." The speech "was in pretty good shape a couple days ago and now we’re just kind of tooling around with it."
Obama’s aides have been insisting this won’t be a political rally and is not a political speech, though his campaiggn is paying for the trip (excluding the Iraq and Afghanistan legs) and events are clearly being staged with the intention of making voters back in the US comfortable with the notion of Obama as a commander-in-chief, an area where he needs shoring up.
And yet Obama and his team are also sensitive to being seen as presumptuous, of acting like a president before the people have their say this November.
Did he look to the Ronald Reagan and John F. Kennedy speeches about Berlin for guidance when writing his own? he was asked.
"You know, they were presidents," Obama said, " I am a citizen. But obviously Berlin is representative of the extraodinary success of the post World War II effort to bring the continent together and the West together and then later to bring the East and the West together so, so I think it’s a natural place to talk about it."
Does he see the speech as a way to describe how he could improve that relationship as president?
"No," Obama said. "I’m just giving a speech."
In English, he noted.
"My German is not real good," he said. "I can speak Bahasi Indonesian but I don’t think…there would be a lot of appeal to that."
Would you describe this as a campaign speech tonight? another reporter asked.
"As opposed to?" Obama replied.
You’re in a campaign and you’re giving a speech, replied the reporter. Would it be okay to describe it as a campaign speech?
"The people in the crowd aren’t voters," Obama said, "so in that sense its not designed to get them to the polls. You know, its not a political rally. Hopefully it will be viewed as a substantive articulation of the relationship I’d like to see beteen the US and Europe."
Audiences back in the US will be watching as well, though, right? he was asked.
"I’m hoping to communicate across the Atlantic about the relationship and how we can build on it," he said.
He added that "there’s no doubt that part of what I want to communicate on both sides of the Atlantic is the enormous potential of us for restoring a strong sense of coming together."
Obama said he was not surprised by the international reaction to his world tour.
"What I think I anticipated was that the world is keely interested in this election," he said. "And I think they are hungry for a sense of where America is going so certainly there is a curiosity there as well."
Obama noted that in a break from his whirlwind schedule, "we’ve got some down time tonight. What are you guys gonna do in Berlin? Huh? Huh? You guys got any big. plans? …I’ve never been to Berlin, so…I would love to tour around a little bit."
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His donors are paying for this trip. The donations to his campaign. Donations from people who can’t afford to put gas in their car, from people who lost thier jobs and can’t afford to grocercies… but he has never been to Berlin…so this is so important to spend money on. The people who supported him can have him.
Posted by: Frank- South Hampton | July 24, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am
This will be another of Obama’s signature thrillers on the stump. He’s great working the large crowds – no matter where they are.
Posted by: matt | July 24, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am
AMERICA IS SAFER WITH EITHER HILLARY OR MCCAIN…HILLARY AND MCCAIN ARE BOTH CENTRISTS AND CAN WORK WELL WITH BOTH SIDES….OBAMA,BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…..
Posted by: neil1785 | July 24, 2008, 7:50 am 7:50 am
Obama: Hype and hot air!
Posted by: Soetoro No! | July 24, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am
OBAMA IS FLIP-FLOPPING AT HIS OWN CONVENIENCE DEPENDING ON WHICH STATE HE’S STUMPING…OR TO WHICH RACE OR GROUP HE’S COURTING…. IF HE’S IN FRONT OF LATINOS, HE SAYS DIFFERENT THINGS ON IMMIGRATION…IF HE’S IN OHIO OR TEXAS, HE SAYS DIFFERENT THINGS ON NAFTA…IF HE’S ON IRAQ’S/AFGHANISTAN’S TROOP BARRACKS, HE SAYS DIFFERENT THINGS ON SURGE AND TROOP WITHDRAWAL TIMETABLE… GEEEEEZZZZ…AND HE EXPECTS US TO VOTE FOR HIM REGARDLESS OF THE SCANDALS AFTER SCANDALS ON HIM SINCE MARCH…. SUCH AN ARROGANT LYING STUPID IDIOT….
Posted by: neil1785 | July 24, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am
Frank-South Hampton, putting your money in Obama’s campaign and vitory will garanty you and others to be able to put gaz in your tank, food on your table and get back jobs you have lost. If you believe McSame can do that that means you have not learned from 8 years of WBush-Cheney-McSame cowboy diplomacy and boots politics, from 8 years of political and economic faillures which have put all of us where we are i.e. between rock and hardplace and has brought US closer to bankrupcy. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | July 24, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
TODAY he realizes the staff is bigger than he thought? Please. Does he expect us to believe this? Time is calling him the next JFK (lots of neutrallity there…), and certainly HE thinks of himself that way.
I am so tired of this man’s ego and what it could potentially do to America. And no, I do not mean in the positive sense.
Posted by: beth | July 24, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am
Obama said he “did not realize – my staff basically just told me that this space is bigger than I realized. “So
asked a reporter, is that a good thing or a bad thing?”
“Uh, it’s a potentially bad thing if nobody shows up,” Obama said, laughing. “You know, we’re sort of on the high wire all of the sudden. It’s like, ‘I’m sorry, how many people does this accommodate? How many?’…We really have no idea what’s going to happen. Sort of a crap shoot. I’m happy with the speech though.”
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I’m sorry Obama is a puppet, he does not know the size of the place he will be speaking—really?!!!–he wants us to believe this!!! He is happy with the speech that they wrote for him.
Distributing the fliers in German may help to bring out some people. I find it odd though that he picked Germany to give a speech to bring the US and Europe back together “to unify the countries”. The only burning speech in memory given in Berlin (which I cannot say because people will question whether I am a racist)was in the late 30′s by another man trying to unify the world.
So after 6 days of traveling and hitting more than a half dozen countries OBAMA has his foreign policy credentials and is now capable of running the nation.
Posted by: Anne | July 24, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am
Has anyone noticed how well Obama carries himself? When things get bad he doesn’t get ruffled. And all times, he is always discussing the relevant issues with compassion and understanding, almost always discarding the cheap, thoughtless approach (like McCain’s gas tax pander).
Here he is, on the world stage, showing the world by example that we are not deranged war mongers, but that we are connected to each other, inside the United States and around the world with issues of war and holocaust, the need for food and renewable energy.
I am sure that it is a disappointment to some liberals, but especially to people who like McCain, that Obama is no summer of love pacifist. We were brutally attacked on 9/11 and he wants to fight the war with those who attacked us. He said what McCain was afraid to, that given information on where Bin Laden is in Pakistan, he would launch an attack against them.
But Obama also seems to understand that the gravest responsibility of any American president is to show due care before starting any war, certainly in the case of starting a war with a nation that did not attack us. Such was the case with Iraq. Soldiers are not plastic playing pieces in a game, and wars are often harder to get out of than to get in to.
God bless America, and God bless Barack Obama!
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am
Those who use this space to spill their life hate say nothing about Barack Obama. But their comments are eloquent testimony of the qualities, or lack thereof, in McCain’s supporters.
The more you say, the worst your candidate looks!
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am
A political candidate is making a campaign speech in Germany.
What a crock!
How many votes does Obama thinks he is going to get from Germany?
If Obama is trying to get Americans to vote for him, he shouldn’t be in Germany making campaign speeches to Germans.
Posted by: Vernon | July 24, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
Neil,
I noticed that John McCain called the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy unbalanced and UNCONSCIENCEABLE… before running for the Republican nomination.
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
John’s conscience,
Everyone knows that Obama is not qualified and fit to become President. He has zero knowledge on economy, foreign policy and national security. McCain needs only 1 VP that will fill up his gap on economy like Mitt Romney. At least McCain is honest enough to admit his shortcomings but when you hear him speak on economy, he makes sense after all. Obama needs 3 VPs to fill up his gaps on 3 areas: One, for economy; two, for foreign policy; and three, for national security. He speaks and thinks as if he knows the subject matter on eonomy.
Posted by: neil1785 | July 24, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
John’s conscience,
That only means that he’s centrist… He’s not too far right…he can work on both sides….
Posted by: neil1785 | July 24, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am
Vernan,
Obama’s speech has two audiences. The first one is of course the U.S. audience. If you choose to believe that no Americans are going to see this speech, then you should be glad that Obama is “campaigning” in a place with no electoral votes.
The other audience is the rest of the world. He wants Europe and the rest of the world to know that, if he is elected, there will be an American president who values the close relationship we had with Europe before the Bush catastrophe.
This is a man who understands that it is in our national interest to have Europe and the world by our side as we fight the fights that we must, unlike George “old Europe” Bush who stuck his middle finger into the air and drove a wedge between us and are allies.
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am
Mitt Romney would not help McCain win the presidency. The Republicans are not trusted on the economy. The Republicans are pro Bush tax cuts and the Dems are anti. No matter whom McCain choses he will not be trusted on the economy.
Posted by: Vanessa | July 24, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
John’s conscience,
yeah, right.
JFK’s bungled summit led to our involvement in Vietnam.
Now Obama will lead want to lead us down the same bungling path in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
You should be thankful enough to Bush for our tight security and for getting rid of a vengeful tyrant, Saddam Hussein.
Bill Clinton who was only 45 when sworn in in 1992 was never questioned for being young and inexperienced because he really had 10 solid years of experience in high office (governor of arkansas) before he ran for President plus he was really smart at debates, never flip-flopped on critical issues where back then there was also war in Kuwait and Iraq and never promised the moon, stars, sun, the unthinkable and the undoable. He handled those issues pretty well and far better than Obama.
Obama is 47 and yet he’s branded as too young because he’s inexprienced. He never had experience in high office other than barely 2 years as Senator. Community Organizer is not considered as high office. With Obama’s nomination, who is totally inexpert, amateurish, inadequate and unqualified for the job as President, Democrats have sealed their ultimate defeat.
Posted by: neil1785 | July 24, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am
Neil,
Those few people, like McCain and Obama, who reach this stage often face a test of their worthiness.
John McCain’s test came when he had to vote for or against Bush’s folly in Iraq. Going to war is to be done 1) only when it is in the national interest and 2) only with due care and preparations.
You can argue that McCain and Bush did those two things, but it would make you look like a fool.
MCCAIN FAILED THE TEST OF LEADERSHIP, THE TALIBAN ARE RISING UP VIRTUALLY UNCHALLENGED IN AFGHANISTAN, BIN LADEN HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT TO JUSTICE, AND IRAN HAS UNPRECIDENTED POWER AND INFLUENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST (NOW THAT THEIR NATURAL ADVISARY SADDAM HAS BEEN NEUTRALLIZED).
The rising power of Iran in particular, should concern all Americans. When the Arab league asked opposing parties in Lebanon to Doha for negotiations, (non-Arab) Iran was there but the U.S. wasn’t invited.
You could argue that the destruction of Iran’s neighboring enemy, one who had not one but two bloody wars with Iran didn’t lead to their rise in power in the region, but again you would look like an uninformed fool.
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am
the more i read about the neagatives from the rep. the more i see Obama’s ability and leadership and the foolishness of Mccain and his followers. Read what leaders see, think and honor they give to Obama.
Posted by: krist | July 24, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am
Yea, and George Bush graduated from harvard business school too.
My question for you is – Are you better off today than you were 8 years ago?
Senator McCain voted with President Bush 95% of the time during the past eight years.
If you like President Bush and think he has done a good job, then John McCain is your man.
If you’re one of many Americans who thinks that the war in Iraq was a mistake or believe that the Republicans have run the economy into the ground and think that the chaos George Bush and John McCain unleashed in our foreign affairs has something to do with the price of gas at the pump… then you have Bush’s partner John McCain to thank.
No one worked harder than McCain to get Bush elected then reelected.
And no one originally promoted and advocated for the Iraq war than John McCain. John McCain’s original sin was supporting Bush and going to war in the first place. That decision cost of more than $1 Trillion and 4,000 American lives. The economy is in big trouble and McCain now wants to perpetuate Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy.
Again, if you like the results of the past 8 years, then vote for McCain, because you will get more of the same for the next 8 years.
So, are you better off today than you were in 2000?
If not, then I respectfully suggest you vote for Barack Obama in 2008.
Posted by: toothchipper55 | July 24, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
Neil,
Before you endorse McCain on the economy, you just might want to READ his big speech on the topic after Romney dropped out. If you like the credit crisis threatening not only the economy of the United States but the whole world, you will love McCain’s speech!
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
Personally, I’m just happy to see an American Leader who is not hated by people in other countries.
If the observer is trying to pick this event apart, then he or she is missing the point.
The Germans (like other people) are looking for more peace and less war. They want to live in a safer world, and most people think Obama can move us in that direction.
And if you thought that Senator Obama’s college events were like rock concerts, check out his reception in Berlin today.
The majority of people in other countries do really like Obama, primarily because he is neither John McCain nor George Bush.
They correctly perceive that McCain will be a continuation of Bush’s foreign interventionist policies – in fact, he intends to advance and exacerbate those failed policies.
Go Obama!
Posted by: toothchipper55 | July 24, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
toothchipper55,
I can’t wait for DNC to change their minds…We are better off with Hillary than this stupid idiot….
Posted by: neil1785 | July 24, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
Like Mitt Romney, George Bush was also a CEO, a Governor, and A Harvard Business Grad
Dems make the comparisons and the fact that he also wants to continue Bush economic policies… it’s over. I would rather any Dem on the economy then a Republican.
Also Bill was labeled as “inexperience”. “Inexperience” on foreign matters. That’s why he choose Al Gore.
Posted by: Vanessa | July 24, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Finally, where is all this Neoconservatives angst coming from?
I notice that the attacks on Obama very personal and weak efforts to attack him as stupid or as an empty suit – he is neither.
If you want to attack, try to be smart and argue against his positions.
Otherwise, your arguments are “empty” and you are “stupid.”
At all events, I think you should relax and enjoy the ride. Obama will become President in January and we will have a unified Democratic government for the first time in 14 years.
The Republicans had such a government for 6 years and completely screwed it up by their own admission.
Let the Democrats have a chance. A lot of us have high expectations for Barack Obama and the Democrat majority in both the house and the senate. They certainly can’t do worse than Bush and the Republicans.
If they screw it up, then let’s make another change. But it just doesn’t make any sense to reward Bush’s Republican incompetence with more of the same (or worse) incompetence from Republican John McCain.
Again, relax and enjoy the Obama ride.
Posted by: toothchipper55 | July 24, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am
toothchipper: Yes, My wife and I are much better off today than we were 8 years ago. We’re much better off after President Bush’s terms than my parents were after Carter’s disasterous presidency that Obama wants to repeat. We’ve seen what happens when you follow the same olf failed policies Obama endorses (or does he? hmm… Who’s he speaking in front of today? We’ll have to see what verision he pulls out today…)
Posted by: Andy | July 24, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
He can give his um ah um ok um ah well um duh speech in any language.
Posted by: TomW | July 24, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
I am so proud to be an American, so proud of Barack Obama! Here we have a man who understands the need for allies. A man who understands that you do not go to war unless 1) it is in the national interest and 2) you go in prepared.
Energetic, smart, compassionate, informed, everything that Bush/McCain are not. Obama reflects our better selves, to Europe and to the world.
God bless America and god bless Barack Obama
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am
Most people who write here have made up their minds.
Rest assured, McCain supporters, that when Obama is elected he will look out for ALL of our interests and not just the interests of the party that elected him (unlike Bush).
Posted by: Billy | July 24, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Hey Andy,
Do you know the last time the inflation adjusted wages went up for middle class America? Yup, the Clinton administration.
Except for the uptick in the Clinton years, real (inflation adjusted) wages have not gone up for the middle class since 1980.
During the same years the wealth of the wealthiest Americans has sky-rocketed.
Of course this had nothing to do with the UNCONSCIECEABLE (John McCain’s word) anti-middle class policies of the Republicans, I am sure.
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am
Frank – South Hampton -
Maybe you haven’t heard, but President Bush is going to the Olympics in China on our dime. And yes, people in this country are hurting, but what does that matter if you want to attend the Olympics first class. Just fill up Air Force One and have the best accomodations possible at the expense of the American tax payers. You would be screaming if Obama was going to Germany at the tax payers expense. I guess this is a lose/lose situation for Obama. No matter what he does you will have a gripe.
Posted by: sunny | July 24, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
The fact that we have an inexperienced candidate, Obama, and McCain, snooze, is proof that we desperately need a third party. Both candidates are really pathetic. People are jumping on the Obama train because they want ‘change’, but there is no evidence that he has the power or ideas to do anything. He’s changed his position on 10 issues now (or at least is stumbling his way through them). His platform is nothing more than mass hysteria.
I voted for him in the primary, but you couldn’t pay me to vote for him, or McCain, now.
Posted by: sheep to the slaughter | July 24, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
This country NEEDS Barack to be president. The world will respect us more.
Makes me feel safer already.
Posted by: Mike | July 24, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
Where is all the angst coming from?
Hmmm… Let’s see.
Obama still refuses to admit he was dead wrong on the surge. Instead of failing, like Obama predicted, it’s been a huge success.
The last time we had a president with so little experience (JFK), our enemies took advantage of his naiveté and we ended up with the Berlin Wall and the Cuban Missile Crisis. However, JFK’s good judgement during the CMC saved the US. Unfortunately, Obama’s shown his judgement is faulty at best (see the surge comments above).
Iran has declared a desire to wipe Israel off the map and is building nuclear weapons. The best Obama can do is announce he’s willing to sit down with them without any preconditions. Wow. Iran knows they have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency.
The US has been a world leader in new medicine and medical procedures for decades, yet Obama wants to socialize it. What socialized industry is known for it’s innovativeness? We’ve got an example of how terrible an idea that is right on our northern border. If it wasn’t for American medicine advances, Canada wouldn’t have any advances at all. Even with that, the program is overpriced for inferior service. Anyone who can comes to the US for treatment, yet Obama wants us to mimic their failed policy.
Gas and energy prices are hurting Americans, yet Obama has no policy to reduce energy prices in any reasonable time frame. President Bush drops the exectutive ban on offshore oil drilling, and oil drops over 10% in a week yet Obama still refuses to develope new oil resources.
Are these the arguements you were looking for toothchip?
Posted by: Andy | July 24, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
I don’t think the world will respect the U.S. more if we elect a black, freshman senator with no foreign policy experience. They will love it, however, because they will be able to walk all over us.
A trip abroad does not make one an expert on foreign policy. And if you think it does, then elect Condi Rice who has spent more time in these countries than Bush or any of the candidates.
Posted by: Caroline | July 24, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
The U.S. Embassy in Berlin has illegally forbidden Foreign Service workers to attend the Obama speech. Under the Hatch Act, these employees legally may attend a speech. The Bush Administration will do anything to protect JukeBox John McCain.
Posted by: Frank | July 24, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
“A trip abroad does not make one an expert on foreign policy.”
No, but the whole world agreeing with your foreign policy doesn’t hurt.
Posted by: Will | July 24, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
“A trip abroad does not make one an expert on foreign policy.”
No, and neither does McCain’s getting the Sunni awakening time-line wrong make him an expert.
The whole world agrees with Barack middle-East policy. That’s enough for me.
Posted by: Will | July 24, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
Again, 2 lefties on the ticket and we will have 2 prosperous terms.
Unfortunately that could go for either party this time.
But history tells us lol
Carter/Mondale right-handed.
Ronald Reagan/George Bush Sr.
BOTH LEFT-HANDED.
George Bush Sr./Dan Quayle
Left and Right
Bill Clinton/Al Gore
BOTH LEFT-HANDED
George Bush Jr./D ck Cheney
Both right-handed
Mccain left-handed
Obama Left handed.
Al Gore is available.
Colin Powell is left-handed.
Just a little levity but interesting.
Posted by: dl | July 24, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
Differences in how the candidates spent part of their summer vacations:
Obama speaks to and inspires tens of thousands (maybe a million) Germans at the victory column.
McCain goes to Jurassic Park for a family reunion. Enjoys spending time and catching up with other fossils.
McCain is too OLD to be President!
Posted by: John | July 24, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
Sarah,
This spring the opposing factions in Lebanon went to Doha, Qatar to figure out what to do with the year long stalemate in that country. The result was not to our liking or in our interest: Hezbollah was given veto power over all government decisions.
But here is the part that may interest you: Iran was there. The U.S. was not. Lebanon has one party that is pro-Syrian (read pro-Iran) and the other is supported by the United States and Europe. But we were not invited.
The reason is that Iran’s power has greatly expanded since the invasion of Iraq, and for reasons are easily understood. Iran’s chief adversary in the region was NOT, as you might think, Israel, but their neighbor Iraq, and specifically Saddam Hussein.
When we took out Saddam, Iran found itself free to do whatever they wanted to do. Moreover, Iran greatly accelerated their nuclear bomb development program when Bush a) included them with Iraq in the axis of evil and b) invaded Iraq.
So now we have this hyper-powerful Iran dominating the whole middle east.
QUESTION: Did John McCain think about the consequences of invading Iraq before he voted for it?
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
More Hollywood Hoopla, More Scam and sham.
Seeing you Obama has never done anything for the United States or the American People, besides Talk……….Give a Speech……. and make empty promises.
So a Campaign rally in Germany is only going to Boost Obama’s ego some more. Making his over inflated Ego larger than life.
That does not make for foreign relations with other coun tries leaders. Nor does it give one experience in doing foreign relations.
It only shows how immature, Lack of Know
ledge and that Obama is completely clueless.
Marketing and PR Campaign around the world does make a good leader, or a leader people would want.
It does show to what extremes someone has to go to try to win a race they are not qualified for.
America is paying for this specticale Obamna is making of himself. I think he should have to pay it all back, since he is using it for his own personal goals.
Posted by: seah | July 24, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
will
you’re right.
but Obama still needs the foundation of experience on his ticket.
Remember the three men who went on the trip to the middle east all got to bring one “assistant” with them.
Reed brought his assistant
Hagel brought his assistant and I believe Obama brought…Biden’s.
Posted by: dl | July 24, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
After 15 years, McCain has repeatedly talked about Czechoslovakia. It cost him the 2000 election to Bush. If something cost any reasonable person the highest level of their profession, they would learn and not make the same mistake.
Shouldn’t the next world leader at least know what countries are in the world and where they are located?
I don’t know if McCain doesn’t want to learn or he can’t learn. Either way, it scares the heck out of me. Bush refused to learn and look at the mess we’re in.
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
Dan — Don’t you think the next president should know how many states there are?
Posted by: Aston | July 24, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
I guess it is no wonder that so many people want Sen. Obama to be our next president. In His 7 years as an Illinois State Senator, He managed to end all crime in Chicago; that’s because He single-handedly, through His charm and grace, made everyone love and respect each other. Illinois’ schools are no longer dilapidated. The graduation rate for the Chicago school system has been greatly improved to 99.9%. Although He did manage to convince the 100 students who did dropout to get their GEDs. The unemployment rate for Illinois improved to just slightly over 0%. And the most MIRACULOUS “change” during His tenure in the Illinois State Senate was the transformation of the Illinois health care system. In His last year in the Illinois State Senate, 2004, not one case of cancer was reported. Not one case of the flu was recorded. No measles! No mumps! No chicken pox! And not even one single case of acne! In fact if it hadn’t been for a handful of individuals dying just prior to their 110th birthdays, there wouldn’t have been any deaths recorded in Illinois that year. So why not vote for Sen. Obama for president so that your community will look just like Chicago! In fact the whole world will look like Chicago–everyone giving and receiving unconditional love and respect!
NOT!
Posted by: James Danley | July 24, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Finally the World is excited about what America has to offer, OBAMA is proving that a glimmer of HOPE is better than no HOPE at all(Bush/McCain)…With OBAMA just maybe this world will now turn in a positive direction. With the policies we have had over the last few years, we cannont afford having McCain and the same mindset moving forward. Sorry John McCain just, does not have enough major policy issue changes to make a significant difference from what we are all currently suffering through. And when I say all “I mean the whole world”
Posted by: Wags | July 24, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
seah
If you can’t see the support that he raises in our ally nations is the best foreign relations tool we could ask for right now considering we need …
their intelligence to fight the terrorists
we need their military to help us get out of Iraq and get back into afghanistan
their lands to support any other conflicts that arise their
their people to want to buy American
their people tof ight muslim extremists in their own countries…
do you not understand that?
Our support from our allies (most importantly the people who elect the leaders in our ally nations) is imploding…imploding.
Go to Europe or asia or south america or Africa
People there (and I have been a lot) will tell yuo they “don’t hate America” they think that America elected a very bad man and were fooled…but depending on this election that will bare out”
that was almost a direct quote from one person I talked to when I was in Norway and Sweden a few months ago…but it was the common statement.
This is not only our election but our allies see this election as a referendum on if we made a mistake electing George W. Bush or we are the same as George W. Bush.
Posted by: dl | July 24, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
“will you’re right. but Obama still needs the foundation of experience on his ticket.”
DL,
With all his experience, McCain’s foreign policy stance contradicts even Iraq’s stance. Why would you agree with McCain? Especially with all the mistakes he’s made recently concerning the middle east. His “experience” hasn’t served him well at all (if you consider being a POW “experience”). By the way, J. LIEberman is McCain foreign policy advisor (and has to correct and whisper in McCain’s ear every time McCain makes another mistake about the middle east).
And you trust that?
Posted by: Will | July 24, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
Andy,
The stagnant wages have been SINCE REAGAN. U.S. was prosperous when BILL CLINTON (Democrat, right?) was president.
If you READ McCain’s big speech on economics, you will see Herbert Hoover is not dead, he is just very old and running on the Republican ticket.
Oh, and by the way, McCain accused Obama of not being sufficiently pro free trade (read pro China trade).
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
I usually base my vote for president on what the world thinks (I mean whole world). They have our best interest in mind.
Posted by: Sheep | July 24, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
This spring the opposing factions in Lebanon went to Doha, Qatar to figure out what to do with the year long stalemate in that country. The result was not to our liking or in our interest: Hezbollah was given veto power over all government decisions.
But here is the part that may interest you: Iran was there. The U.S. was not. Lebanon has one party that is pro-Syrian (read pro-Iran) and the other is supported by the United States and Europe. But we were not invited.
The reason is that Iran’s power has greatly expanded since the invasion of Iraq, and for reasons are easily understood. Iran’s chief adversary in the region was NOT, as you might think, Israel, but their neighbor Iraq, and specifically Saddam Hussein.
When we took out Saddam, Iran found itself free to do whatever they wanted to do. Moreover, Iran greatly accelerated their nuclear bomb development program when Bush a) included them with Iraq in the axis of evil and b) invaded Iraq.
So now we have this hyper-powerful Iran dominating the whole middle east.
QUESTION: Did John McCain think about the consequences of invading Iraq before he voted for it?
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Andy
the poll that came out this past week showed
5 to 1 support for obama in our ally nations.
there’s no “getting over ” that.
Posted by: dl | July 24, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
“Shouldn’t the next world leader at least know what countries are in the world and where they are located? ”
Shouldn’t the next president of the UNITED STATES know how many states are in the US?
“I don’t know if McCain doesn’t want to learn or he can’t learn. Either way, it scares the heck out of me. Bush refused to learn and look at the mess we’re in.”
Why doesn’t Obama inability to realize the surge was a success scare you? It’s not like it’s a hypothetical situation. Obama’s stuck on his past comments and unwilling to admit a mistake and adjust, just like President Bush did with Rumsfeld’s Iraq policy. Yet, somehow with Obamites, this is a cardinal sin for President Bush but no big deal for Senator Obama?
Posted by: Andy | July 24, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
He is not on one single Senate caucus. Shows you what Senate Democrats really think of his qualifications.
Posted by: Disenfranchised Democrat | July 24, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
LOL John. Nice try. If you want to go back and say wages were stagnant since Reagan, then why not go back to Carter (Democrat, right?) when they were falling?
That’s right. Carter’s policy of higher taxes and no new oil capacity caused STAGNATION. Remember that? Huge inflation AND a recession. Let’s see… Who wants to have a policy of higher taxes and obstruction of new oil resources like Carter (a Democrat, right?). Oh, that’s right. Obama! Whoo hoo! Stagnation, here we come!
Posted by: Andy | July 24, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
The Denver Group, which is trying to ensure a fair and open convention in Denver, was featured in the New York Times.
Posted by: George | July 24, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
vote for obama=a big step back to the massive prosperity we had in the 90,s
vote for mccain=a big leap even further into the sewer that bush ahs got us in.
it is very simple if you like the last seven years of str8 into th etoiletr policies then vote mccain if you want the world to respect us again and want good paying jobs and want things to get back to the fantastic 90,s economic times vote obama.
Posted by: tom | July 24, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
no will I am the biggest obama supporter out there…because I have met both of them and gotten to be in q and a’s with them last year and have seen up close who is smarter).
but Obama needs to make the right decision on who to have down the hall from him in the VP spot…
it is not the time when the VP position was a joke position. The VP is his right hand person now.
and it is his first big decision that shows how he values characterisitics in people…
from hearing Obama and watching him answer off the cuff questions…I do not see him picking the guy who gets him a state…or “won’t make gaffes” or supported Hillary…
He knows himself that experience is a quality that is good to have in a President…
experience does not outweigh judgement or brains…or the right message and direction…
but they are not mutually exclusive…
Obama knows to pick someone who has been involved in the “halls and discussions” that would supplement his brains (“and common sense and really seriously valued judgement”) with experience.
That’s why Biden’s assistant was his assistant on this trip.
But he also needs to pick someone who is also left-handed……lol.
Posted by: dl | July 24, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
Is this the sort of talk that excites the world?
“Obama said Israelis could be certain of his commitment to Israel’s security by looking at “my deeds.”
“Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee, which is my committee, a bill to call for divestment from Iran, as a way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don’t obtain a nuclear weapon,” he said.
However, Obama does not serve on the banking committee, and McCain’s campaign seized on the mistake.
“Not only is it not his committee, but he’s not even on the committee, he didn’t vote on the bill, and he had nothing to do with its passage,” McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said in a statement issued Wednesday.”
Sounds like Obama’s delusions are starting to take hold of him. No wonder he doesn’t think the Iraq Surge worked! In Obama-world, it probably didn’t!
Posted by: Andy | July 24, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
Boy the marketing people missed a big opportunity..Obuma could have sold tons of toothpaste world wide by now…
Posted by: HP Boston | July 24, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
I watched an ABC interview of Mr. Obama last night that was so slanted to the right it made me sick. The guy doing the interview (I dont know his name because I stopped watching ABC news long ago just as I stopped watching FUX) started off the interview by telling Obama that the majority of those in the USA feel McCain would make a better president…. my jaw hit the ground. How disconnected is ABC anyway? EVERYONE… and I mean EVERYONE I speak with think of McCain and just another gwb… just another totally clueless incompetent from the right-wing out to make good on political promises made to corporate backers.
Posted by: RW | July 24, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
Why are some of you so insecured? Some here would rather have a bumbling clown that naps during a crisis, that can’t remember what he said yesterday, that only has a one track mind…WAR, and that is so out of touch with the average American. This is what McCain was, is, and will be, a man out of touch with mainstream American. Give us a man or woman that can understand America’s people, it’s needs, and the desire for peace in the world. If he represents these fundamental desires of the the American people, I don’t care if he is green, white, blue, black, hispanic, asian, indian, of whatever heritage or generation. We need new ideas, not old failed ones, we need a new direction, not the same one that got us lost, we need someone that Americans and the world will look to, and not away. McCain will never be that President that promises hope for a brighter future, only one that is dark and plagued with wars and conflict. If you want an America that instills hope and promise for a better future, then Obama is the man to lead this nation. The world waits and watches. Choose wisely, the stakes are very high.
Posted by: Jake | July 24, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
andy what is more scary than that…
Your inability to see what worked in Iraq.
Do you realize the insurgents were paid and promised positions…
the insurgents like we did with the “freedom fighters” in afghanistan against the Russians were given money and guns and promises of positions of power…
this tactic worked a lttile in Vietnam…that is why Mccain acts like it is going so well.
in afghanistan do you know where those freedom fighters are now?
They are called al qaeda and the taliban and are led by a guy by the name of Osama Bin Laden.
yeah the surge worked with paying off the insurgents usuiing a tactic out of the afghanistan playbook that got us our enemy in the first place…
THAT is why Obama will not say the surge “worked”
because ignorant idiots condsider when we put thousands of troops into an area and throw 200,000,000,000 dollars at the insurgent groups…and guns…
and violence goes down…that that is success.
Posted by: dl | July 24, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
Andy,
It was his bill, not his committee. He is referring to the “Iran Sanctions Enabling Act” that he (Barack) sponsored and introduced in May 2007. The measure was then referred to the Banking Committee, and passed a vote of 19-2 on July 17.
Posted by: Will | July 24, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
“O Force One”?!?! Thousands of screaming Germans acting like a mosh pit at a rock concert?!?!
Good grief!
This man is negotiating foreign policy and he is a CANDIDATE, not our President!
Arrogance? Extreme.
Posted by: Rhys | July 24, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
American citizens have gotten so lazy that they just want the next shiny object. If they did their due diligence, it would be clear that the senator from Illinois, while an accomplished speaker and world class master of condescending answers to anyone who dares to question him inquiringly, has very little in his history of substantive accomplishment. Most of his so-called achievements are of the “my committee” variety. He needs a lot more experience before he can be entrusted with our country.
Posted by: Jo CHGO | July 24, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
“Boy the marketing people missed a big opportunity..Obuma could have sold tons of toothpaste world wide by now…”
No kidding. Obama could be a great spokesman for Teflon. “Hi. I’m Barack Obama. You may remember me from such coronations like the United States Presidency and I support Teflon. I can say whatever I want and change it within hours because like Teflon, nothing sticks!”
Posted by: Andy | July 24, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
A vote for Obuma is the biggest CRAP SHOOT OF ALL!
Think of of the crap he is slinging around like his copycat ideas and he is as phony as a 3 dollar bill, with no hope of change!
Posted by: HP Boston | July 24, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
Andy,
Can you say OIL SHOCK?
Can you say price controls (Nixon)?
Can you say WIN button (Ford)?
Buy a clue.
You can argue that the oil shock was the result of us providing haven for the Shah. You might even be right. Would John McCain NOT have taken in our ally?
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
“5 to 1 support for obama in our ally nations. there’s no “getting over ” that.”
Actually it is pretty easy to ignore that. They don’t vote, they don’t pay taxes, they often have the support of ours in the form of military bases and other foreing aid (otherwise, Russian would be their native tongue), and at the end of the day, these are the same people who made a rock star out of David Hasselhoff.
I rest my case.
Kit
Posted by: len | July 24, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
It’s great that at least there aren’t thousands arriving to protest, like they always did against Bush and the neocons. The rest of the world wants to see Obama win because they believe it will return America to its former ways– not an arrogant warmongering nation, but a powerful nation that treats others fairly, listens, negotiates, and makes the world a better place. We have not done that for the last eight years.
Posted by: Philip Decour | July 24, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
dl,
Have you ever stopped and thought about why we were able to recruit regular Iraqis? Yes, we paid many of them, but do you think you’d take the money if you didn’t think the US would win? Would you take money to stand up against insurgents in your neighborhood if you thought the insurgents would eventually win, especially with the insurgents’ habit of cutting off people’s heads?
Please. Nice try. The only reason that worked is because the surge allowed the US and Iraqis to take back the country from the insurgents. If we hadn’t done that, no amount of money would matter. The money was a tool the surge used to succeed, not the driving factor behind the surge’s success.
The fact that Obama and his supporters refuse to acknowledge this is evidence of their political stubborness and willingness to trash the US in an effort to win in November.
Posted by: Andy | July 24, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
This is an eye-witness account from an American Soldier serving in Afghanistan:
I am not a very political person. I just wanted to pass along that Senator Obama came to Bagram Afghanistan for about an hour on his visit to ‘The War Zone’. I wanted to share with you what happened. He got off the plane and got into a bullet proof vehicle, got to the area to meet with the Major General (2 Star) who is the commander here at Bagram.
As the Soldiers where lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and didn’t say a word as he went into the conference room to meet the General. As he finished, the vehicles took him to the ClamShell (pretty much a big top tent that military personnel can play basketball or work out in with weights) so he could take his publicity pictures playing basketball. He again shunned the opportunity to talk to Soldiers to thank them for their service.
So really he was just here to make a showing for the American’s back home that he is their candidate for President. I think that if you are going to make an effort to come all the way over here you would thank those that are providing the freedom that they are providing for you.
I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the Dallas Cowboy Cheer leaders than from one of the Senators, who wants to be the President of the United States. I just don’t understand how anyone would want him to be our Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be around those that provide the freedom for him and our great country.
If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry but I wanted you all to know what kind of caliber of person he really is. What you see in the news is all fake.
In service,
CPT Jeffrey
Posted by: Eye Witness | July 24, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Will,
So why did Obama say it was his committee?
Posted by: Andy | July 24, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
Andy you would take the money if your country was destroyed and your family was starving and the indurgents were controlling the food.
Get a clue.
Posted by: dl | July 24, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
Thank you Obama. May God bless you! With you as president, the whole world will start seeing us in a positive light. May God bless America!
Posted by: Dew5050 | July 24, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
Len,
You and John McCain want the United States to have no allies? Personnelly, I think the U.S. needs allies that support us during the fights ahead, and for that we need a president who inspires Europe to respect us once again.
That is the signifigance of the 5 to 1 ratio in European public opinion. They respect Obama.
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Kiddie crowd: stop being lemmings like the Germans (who would love to see a weaker U.S.) and do some homework on your home boy. Look at his lack of experience, qualifications and leadership. Look at the way he will say anything to anyone, even contradicting what he said ten minutes ago, if it will get him a vote. Then look at John McCan, an American hero, who puts his COUNTRY first, not himself. Obama is a narcissist; are you?
Posted by: jaycee | July 24, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Capt. Porter,
According to the pictures I saw, Barack shook plenty of soldier’s hands, and they got along with him very well. In fact, they mobbed him, according to most reports.
Wonder why you’re report is so different?
Thanks for your service. Barack will have you home with your family soon.
Posted by: Will | July 24, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
John,
Learn history. Carter (Democratic President) instuted huge taxes which stifled economic growth and caused a recession. At the same time, he didn’t do ANYTHING to increase oil supply, which caused massive inflation. It’s obvious you’re nothing but a Democratic shill based on your complete inability to acknowledge any deficits in your own party. Just let Carter go. He was a failure of a president. I have faith in you, you can do. Actually, I think you could if your party wasn’t trying to elected Carter II. Instead, you’re forced into a position where you have to defend those old, failed policies. I feel for you.
Posted by: Andy | July 24, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
This is an eyewitness account from an American soldier. He shook my hand and asked me if I missed folks back home. I told him very much so and he told me he would do his best to help all us soldiers get home. Then he walked towards the big tent, but suddenly turned and looked at me and said he’d be praying for all of us. I thought he was a great man, and so did a lot of other soldiers.
In service,
CPT David
Posted by: David Wilson | July 24, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
To be a Republican just for the sake of being a Republican. There is no cure for the closemindedness. Clearly, Republicans do not care about the greater wellbeing of the United States. They don’t care about all the damage caused by the most corrupt administration in the history of this country – they only want power for the sake of power – no matter how corrupt it is. Barack Obama could go the the Whitehouse and sleep for four years and do more good than the Republicans could ever accomplish. But he won’t sleep on the job. His administration will make great strides in repairing all the damage caused by the Fascist Republican – keep in mind that the non-fascist Republicans have already denounced their party – and are themselves looking for change!
Posted by: ThereIsNoCure | July 24, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Eye witness is like so many putting up an email that has been shown all over the internet and isn’t real by most people who study these…
this is how it goes in the vein of Mccain having an illegitimate chikld and swiftboating
people like “eyewitness” puts up more false spam…
because when Bush won he could only win by scaring the public and tearing down his opponent with the help of lies..
Posted by: dl | July 24, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Capt. Wilson,
Thank you so much for you and your family’s sacrifice. Hope to see you home soon. Barack is trying to make that happen.
Posted by: Will | July 24, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
I am in Berlin and going along later to the speech but I really don’t think there will be that much of an audience. I haven’t seen any fliers or posters about this over the past week.
Posted by: Anon | July 24, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Thanks Cpt Jeffrey Porter for what you do for our country. Us “little” people understand the sacrifice you make and don’t take you for granted. Obama is a fabrictated image, soldiers are objects that he uses for self political gain. Had he served and sacrificed years of his life in a sweaty hot desert, or perhaps in a sub zero climate, maybe one that is a constant battle with bugs and famine, he could honestly look at the soldiers as individual patriots, instead he sees them as pawns provided to do with as he sees fit. Unbelieveable.
Posted by: Jack | July 24, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Barak[redacted]Obama should talk about pulling the troops out of Germany immediately. Or does he know enough about the situation to realize they are there?
Posted by: Bubba | July 24, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
McCain made another town hall meeting in PA last night. The place could hold 1600, only 700 people showed up. Think about that when see Obama’s crowd tonight. One of the qualities of a leader is inspirational. McCain hasn’t got it. When the nation is in peril citizens have to be inspired to act together for good. Motivation of the people for the common good is essential to American success. It is a quality that Obama does have.
Posted by: Sanity Man | July 24, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
dl,
You would really take money to stand up against the insurgents if you felt they would win? Knowing full well that if the insurgents found out they would try to kill you and your family?
BTW, don’t try to twist my words and say they were taking money for food or something passive like that. The payments were for their support against the insurgents. Active support. The kind that we would never have gotten if they thought we’d lose.
That’s why the surge worked.
That’s why either it’s foolish that Obama is either too politically stubborn to admit the surge worked and he made a bad judgement call or he just has terrible judgement and is a fool. Your pick, but your propaganda won’t work here.
Posted by: Andy | July 24, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
“You and John McCain want the United States to have no allies?”
No, JC. We want a man who leads from the front.
Posted by: len | July 24, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Andy,
Carter proposed that the CAFE standard be raised to 44 MPG. If it had been enacted we would not be importing oil today.
You cannot change the world price of oil with the piddling 2% of world reserves in the United States. If you draw on this resource over a couple of years, then it is GONE FOREVER. If you pump it out over 20 years, it makes no difference in the price on the world market.
Sorry to interupt your fact free diet.
Posted by: John's conscience | July 24, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Don’t like Senator Obama? Simple way to express that, is not to vote for Senator Obama. With our negative standing in the world, anything positive that will advance our position in the world, is a plus. Like it or not, he represents that which is great about America.’The American Dream’, only in America could one hope and achieve such heights. This is just one persons opinion. Now you guys and gals can go back to your daily hate speakfest, of which you never tire.
Posted by: The Real Marie | July 24, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Everyone keeps questioning Obama’s record and what he’s done. Where as this line of questioning when you voted for Bush. All he did was execute retarded people and fail at running a business in the most profitable industry on the planet(Oil). Pretty good track record, and it carried over into his Presidency. You all say Obama will be the end of the US. If Bush had another term, the peso would catch the dollar, we’d probably go to war with Iran, and he’d continue cutting taxes until the government had no source of revenue because what’s the point, we can just print more money, right?
Posted by: jacob P | July 24, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
The title is misleading.. He’s talking about the numbers in terms of accommodations, not the speech…
Posted by: dre | July 24, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
“O Force One”
I LOVE IT, LOL !!!!!!!
Posted by: Order | July 24, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Hmmm…throngs of screaming Germans advocating a laying-low of American power.
I’m drawing a blank, but wasn’t there some historical precedent for this kind of thing?
143 days in Congress. A completely failed “community project” left for dead in his home district back in Chicago. That’s all this clown has as “experience.” Giving a speech in Germany is not “foreign policy experience.” It’s a political rally – something Obama has done throughout his life and is adept at.
This is not “new.” This is not “statesmanship.” This is not “foreign policy credentials.” This is not “a fact-finding mission.” This is a massive, week-long campaign rally (in Europe, which is at last check, not America) sold to the public as the aforementioned.
Lotsa buyers on this thread. But then again, they know their boy has NO experience, so any resume padding and fluffing he engages in is going to be p to by his acolytes no matter how pointless or fruitless or phony it is.
O! Yes, He can!
Posted by: Good Lt | July 24, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Dear Travaris Jackson and the rest of the MN Vikings,
Thank you for your service to the state of Minnesota. Because we care for you so much, we want to make sure you know we support you. As such, we don’t want to see you get hurt and will do whatever we can to make sure you don’t have to go out onto the football field and risk injury. I think it’s best if you gave up this season to ensure you’re safe.
Support our Vikings! Keep them safe and off the field!
Posted by: A Packer Fan | July 24, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
Lets see how much Sen Obama bashes a sitting President. My guess the folks here in the USA are not going to be to influenced by the reaction he gets from the German people. I still wonder why after all this Liberal Bias from the Networks, his poll numbers have not moved.
Posted by: Ed | July 24, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Dear Captain Wilson,
That is a great story. Actually, I have no doubt that both John McCain and Barack Obama wish you and the other soldiers well.
The quesiton is “which person has the right plan to attain more peace?”
I think Obama is that leader.
I just wish the candidates would focus on the technical aspects of their respective plans and discuss the issues.
I do not appreciate McCain questioning Obama’s patriotism or desire for peace.
Thank you for your service.
IndyVet66
Posted by: toothchipper55 | July 24, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Last night McCain was interviewed on Fox, after the Obama camp was allowed to add rebuttal in person and in real time. I find this very interesting since none of the other networks allow the same. I have no problem with people standing behind their candidate but what I am disturbed by is the fact that not only are these individuals force fed their opinion by the other networks and extreme special interest such as the Huffington post, MoveOn, DailyKos etc. but at the same time they are being told by the same groups that a network like Fox news is not fair or balanced in its coverage. I watch all and can say that on a routine basis not only are groups like Huffington, MoveOn, and DailyKos are invited but never speak but Obama has never appeared on Fox. Hillary appeared for a very hard hitting interview and was treated very respectfully and actually got high reviews from the viewers (not that that was mentioned anywhere else). In a day where people are manipulated so easily through advertising, music, TV, and news how can one make an opinion without exploring all avenues? The fact that this is taking place has become so self evident through the false comments made by McCain and the wooing of Obama. McCain is being beat up as GWB III while he is anything but that, he is trying to finish what was started, McCain did vote for the war (as well as most of the dem senate) while under the impression it was for the right reason, whether it was started for the wrong reasons or not does not change the situation we are now in. To run from Iraq and redploy to Afghanistan before the job is done will result in one thing the AQ fighters will bounce from Afghanistan to Iraq and back and forth (remember small groups of insurgents are easier to move around than brigades of soldiers), this is what the military is trying to tell Obama but since he is in the pocket of the above groups he is not listening. On the flipside of things, thos who only listen to these biased groups hear a limited message, Change, Hope, Change, Hope, in between there are photo ops, articles about what he wears to the gym etc. When we do hear from Obama as far as actual plans for action they change from day to day, to read and listen to past news events this cannot be denied. The man is so cocky and arrogant he will not even admit it when he does change his mind, worse part is changing your mind is OK if you can at least justify it with an explanation. Wake up, you are not voting for the American Idol you are choosing the leader of the free world, I agree GWB has not been the best but it could be much worse. Like it or not there are people that hate this country and want to destroy it. Many of the leaders of these countries and groups are very experienced in the practice of their hate and deceit, a president that is undergoing on the job training may not be the best choice to counter this. When you are not an American war is not something that when you lose you say “oh well” and move on. Think about what the Soviets did with their spoils after WWII, did they say “OK we all friends now”? No. they occupied, raped, and ravaged Eastern Europe for fifty years and when they were done there was not much left. The Germans praised Ronald Reagan when the wall came done, now they curse him because they are paying a 12% unification tax to rebuild East Germany. Think about how you would appreciate life under Iranian or North Korean rule? Yes you would not have to worry about war but think it all the way through. Just say to yourself that is not possible, say it again and again.
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
John,
Why did oil drop 10% in the couple days after President Bush dropped the executive ban on offshore drilling? Maybe because increase the supply will lower prices? Sorry to burst your polical bubble with reality. I know that economics were never a socialist stong point.
The smart strategy would be to go after any energy supply we can. Oil, gas, nuclear, wind, solar, all of it. Countries like China and Russia are pursuing that strategy. That’s exactly what McCain wants to do, but Obama’s too tied in to the far left environmentalists lobby to let him think clearly.
Posted by: Andy | July 24, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
andy
the us government gave money TO the insurgents …
that along with the extra army and guns and 200,000,000,000 is why the surge got the land quieter.
doyou undertand that.
They gave it to Iraqiis who needed money and food..and jobs…
but they promised the insurgents positions of power in the state (positions may I add that do not exist…and the potential to create them is estimated at 3 insurgents to every one position)
this whole “surge” is a ruse…for political quieting … it is temporary that is why McCain does not go along with what Bush is saying because he knows it is temporary…and if he was able to become President…
Listen
McCain looks at it knowing we just may have made it worse if we were planning to leave soon. But Mccain really deos think we should stay for another 10 years. Mccain knows what they just did is only a good tactic if the American people planned on staying indefinitely to tamp down the militias of muslim extremists that we just funded and armed.
America can not afford that.
Here in lies the problem…
there are three teams here…
Obama wanted to leave and cut our losses and not spend 200,000,000,000 ignoring the growing threat in afghanistan and pakistan.
Mccain and Bush wanted to try this tactic…Mccain thinking this is long long term. Which he learned in the general will not work.
Bush …it was all political to hand it off to the next President.
We now have quiet…like a pot that we just threw a slow burning explosive into.
Either the pot is going to work or not… but as rich as we are as a country…we can not afford to stand holding the pot together ignoring all the other pots starting to bubble over.
Meanwhile the people in our ally countries are more and more not helping with holding because they are pissed at us.
Posted by: dl | July 24, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Once again, there is a lot of angst from the NeoCons over Obama’s speech in Berlin.
In their eyes, Obama can’t do anything right. If he captured or killed Bin Laden yesterday, they would criticize him today. Funny, eh?
At all events, I’m just happy to see an American Leader who is not hated by people in other countries.
If an observer is trying to pick this event apart, then he or she is missing the point. The Germans (like other people) are looking for more peace and less war. They want to live in a safer world, and most people think Obama can move us in that direction.
And if you thought that Senator Obama’s college events were like rock concerts, check out his reception in Berlin today.
The majority of people in other countries do really like Obama, primarily because he is neither John McCain nor George Bush.
They correctly perceive that McCain will be a continuation of Bush’s foreign interventionist policies – in fact, he intends to advance and exacerbate those failed policies.
Posted by: toothchipper55 | July 24, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
This trip, by the very nature of such trips in an election year, was bound to go pretty well. All of McCain’s criticisms and double-dare-ya bravado about the trip just sounds pouty and was akin to the moronic prosecutor who invited O.J. Simpson to try on the glove.
Posted by: Mike R. | July 24, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
It’s been a very good trip for Obama. He’s made all the right moves and had some very good breaks too. But he’s not just a citizen, as he says — he’s a U.S. Senator. Interesting that he overlooks that — maybe because he’s had such negligible impact or record as Senator.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | July 24, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Obama pandering to the Europeans, cute. …And no surprise the left eats it up. Why does the left want to be Europe so bad? Is it the high fuel costs, high unemployment rate, under par health care..oh, yeah it is the social programs!
Get your tissues out, cause you gonna need it when your boy loses this election. Middle America will change thier vote once they see Obama bashing the United States on European soil. what a joke.
Posted by: ken | July 24, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
andy
why did oil drop?
ask d cheney and his oil buddies.
it is not because of a legitimate tie betwen bush saying ok.
the oil markets knew Bush would say that.
there not stupid.
oy
Posted by: dl | July 24, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
Who really cares if he does have a million Germans attend his rally? Unless they are registered U.S. voters, their attendance does not matter. Maybe he will figure out a new a create way to use the words “hope” and “change.” What an empty suit he is!! We really should consider the lack of experience and his lack of judgment. After meeting with the General in Iraq, he would never answer the question as to whether or not the surge worked. He refuses to admit that he was wrong and that the surge worked.
Posted by: gamom | July 24, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
For all of you so called “Patriots” who continue to launch insults across party lines thus hiding behind your own manipulated ideologies, maybe “We The People” should start looking ourselves in the mirror and realize that We have the power to change things in this country. We are not the divided masses as our parties and our media would have us believe. The real cancer in this country is neither Republican nor Democrat, it is Washington, D.C. !!!! Regardless of Dem or Rep. as majority or as President, gov’t spending continues to increase each year while “We The People” continue to fight for our party and our owns realities through our maligned perceptions. WE MUST VOTE THE INCUMBENTS OUT OF POWER AND GOOD PEOPLE MUST STAND UP AND START RUNNING FOR OFFICE. We are the second highest corporate taxed country on the planet and only 29% have a college degree! “The only thing evil needs to succeed is for good men and good women to do nothing!” Wake up America!!!! Get educated and get objective!!! FAIR TAX FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!! -Brad the Patriot
Posted by: Brad | July 24, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
I read this knowing comments from the anti-Obama crowd and remember, these are precisely the same people who four years ago urged us to vote for George Bush. These people have forfeited the right to be taken seriously. We are about to see a landslide of massive proportions as America realizes McCain is simply not capable of functioning as president.
Posted by: DavidKnows | July 24, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Nice to hear that John d is better off now than 8 years ago. That is one enthusiastic NeoCon.
The question is “Are you better off today than you were 8 years ago?
Senator McCain voted with President Bush 95% of the time during the past eight years. So much for being a Maverick.
If you like President Bush and think he has done a good job, then John McCain is your man.
If you’re one of many Americans who thinks that the war in Iraq was a mistake or believe that the Republicans have run the economy into the ground and think that the chaos George Bush and John McCain unleashed in our foreign affairs has something to do with the price of gas at the pump… then you have Bush’s partner John McCain to thank.
No one worked harder than McCain to get Bush elected then reelected.
And no one originally promoted and advocated for the Iraq war than John McCain. John McCain’s original sin was supporting Bush and going to war in the first place. That decision cost of more than $1 Trillion and 4,000 American lives. The economy is in big trouble and McCain now wants to perpetuate Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy.
Again, if you like the results of the past 8 years, then vote for McCain, because you will get more of the same for the next 8 years.
So, are you better off today than you were in 2000?
If not, then I respectfully suggest you vote for Barack Obama in 2008.
Posted by: toothchipper55 | July 24, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
So true! People all over the world are not just interested, but anxious and concerned and excited about our next president and whether it would be the ‘SAME OLD” man or someone else who can help get us out of the ill brought on by GW and cohorts, including McSame. It is not just americans who want a real change, but the rest of the world is yearning for one too, even though they are not our voters. They have been so sick and tired of the unilateral homophobic bullying tactics of what they have seen in the last 8 years. So is it any wonder that others are embracing someone else who shows a glimmer of hope? Voting for McSame will drag us down even lower than what it already is, and we may never be able to recover from this kind of tragedy, and our next generation will surely see that they will be following the leadership of countries like China, India and Russia. The choice is ours, and if there are enough fools, we will be living in what we think can never happen. A vote for McSame is a vote for just this!
Posted by: Karen | July 24, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
This is great He is showing that he is able to handle himself on the international stage. There will be no guessing how the international community will view him if he is elected. plus the americans overseas think it is great. And, yes, he is using campaign money for the European part but the first part in Iraq and Afhganastan was paid for as he went as part of a Senate committee. What is so wrong with him improving the American Image overseas? I don’t underswtand why people are complaining. The world view of us right no is not very favorable. I have heard people say what do we care about the european opinion? We should care very much in an age where it only takes hours not months to get to europe. We are not alone in this world.
Posted by: Iam4thiscountry | July 24, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
You guys in the post are hipocrates Obama did go on Fox news not that I watch it that much and also I can afford to put gas in my car and I donate to Obama. I trust obama’s judgment and if they want to spend money to go on a world tour its fine with me. Unlike when mccain went and just took tax payer money to do it. You guys call him weak and inexperiance when he doesn’t go now when he goes all you do is take shots at the man. I know who ios trully pathetic and it is not Obama or Mccain.
Posted by: Joe | July 24, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
Obama has 143 days in the senate. That’s his experience. That’s it (unless you want to count “community organizer”. This guy wants to lead the free world and yet he’s never led anything. No track record. Nothing to say that he has leadership qualities. Good speaker? So what. He couldn’t get beyond an entry level job – if he could get hired for a job at all. Core values are unclear. He can’t command the trust that the President job requires.
Posted by: stan | July 24, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
First, O’Bama is not the president. He should not be promoting himself as such.
Second, Five to one non-Americans prefer O’Bama to McCain? Who cares? Americans love America and will do what’s right for themselves.
Third, O’Bama’s birth certificate is not open for perusal? Anyone else out there sensing a significant cover-up?
O’Bama you’re all show, until it’s about your birth certificate(s).
Posted by: new englander | July 24, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Obama can’t please everyone. Spiegel reports on remarks from a moody Le Monde:
“A speech in Berlin, five little hours in Paris.”
I’m just waiting for November so I can vote him in…
Posted by: Katya | July 24, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
There is nothing about him that I trust NOTHING. All the world is a stage and he is on it and that is a fact. He is not the President yet and everyone seems to act as though he is. I just hope to God that my vote will count but I just don’t think so. Doesn’t anybody see he says things to make people in the area he is feel as though he understands everything when in fact he does not. I think the thing that he said that really got me so very upset with him is that everyone in the United States should learn Spanish is out of his mind or what our language is ENGLISH and that is a fact.
I don’t trust him or his wife at all whenever I see her or him my hair on the back of my neck goes up and that is a fact.
MAY GOD BLESS ONE AND ALL OF US IF HE SHOULD BECOME PRESIDENT NOW AND FOREVER AS I AM SURE HE WILL!!!
Posted by: Carol | July 24, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
As it turns out, Obama can’t complete a sentence without a teleprompter. “Uhhhh, my position has always been, Uhhhhhhhhhh, as I’ve always said, Uhhhhhhh, let me be clear,Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.” This guy is a novice.
Posted by: Superpower | July 24, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Dan, Sen. Obama was on Fox News Sunday which aired on Sunday, April 27, 2008. Google it! The entire transcript is online.
Posted by: James Danley | July 24, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Foxnews?
Obama was on Foxnews Sunday with Chris Wallace.
Posted by: Vanessa | July 24, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
toothchipper55……let me see…….isn’t it the democratically-controlled Congress that has contributed to much of the crap we have been dealing with the last two years?? Funny how everything has taken a nosedive since they took control. No wonder they have the lowest Congressional approval rating in history.
Posted by: JenG | July 24, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Fear mongering, hate speech, racism etc. can never conceal brilliance.
A majority of Americans want a genuine and intelligent POTUS after the nightmare of the last 8 years.
No amount of raving and ranting will stop us from voting Obama.
Posted by: Katya | July 24, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
I know I should ignore Andy who obviously does not ge tlogic entwined with markets…
the markets already supposed to themselves that Bush would go this route…he is an OIL guy.
If you did not know.
and this is “psychological” lol supply and demand…
guess what?
there is no “psychological” change to speculators…when everyone already assumed that George Bush would say what he said.
I know that is hard to get…but try.
You must be 19…huh…13? 22?
Will’s right I’m done.
Posted by: dl | July 24, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
I just love to see you all crying for change, isn’t that why you voted the Dem congress in the first place? Two years and what change have they brought? The lowest attendance rate ever in both houses? As far as the economy goes, how was the economy up til about eight months ago? It was smokin hot? DOW at an all time high, more people owning houses than ever, more Americans traveling abroad than ever. Stop crying and ride it out as we have done everytime in history, its when the gov gets involved that things get really bad.
You people need to bring some real issues to the table, the same old rhetoric is not going to sway anybody’s opinion.
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
So after 6 days of traveling and hitting more than a half dozen countries OBAMA has his foreign policy credentials and is now capable of running the nation.
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Next week I heard Obama is going to spend 5 days looking at tapes of open heart surgery and will speak to a half dozen experts in that field. He then will, according to his staff, be fully qualified to be a heart surgeon.
The month after next he plans to hang with some fighter pilots and go for rides in their aircraft. This will surely then qualify him to be a fighter pilot in our armed forces should he so desire.
Why the possibilities for the messiah are simply endless.
Posted by: JjV | July 24, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Distributing flyers? I thought Obama was supposed to be on Official Senate business.
Posted by: geevill | July 24, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
For the people that cannot believe he did know how big the space is that he is speaking in Germany. Do you know how big it is? He has never been to Germany before and there are somed details he leaves to his staff. As for the person that said “TODAY he realizes the staff is bigger than he thought? Please” should read the article better before making a comment. It was the size of the place not his Staff! Please!!!
Posted by: Iam4thiscountry | July 24, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
I can honestly say that for the forst time in my adult life I am NOT proud of my country! We are becoming a joke due to the likes of Obama. He will be the ruin of what is left of this nation. Oh, there’ll be change alright– try welcome to Amerika!
Posted by: sad day for america | July 24, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
jayntampa wrote:
Wow … Godwin’s Law still applies
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LOL! I was thinking the same thing! It always amazes me.
Posted by: Jane Hussein | July 24, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
I wonder why Obama won’t be giving a speech from our military base in Germany? You’d think that if he wanted to appear chief-ish, he would visit the 53,000 troops at Ramstien airbase who can actually vote in the next election.
Posted by: mark | July 24, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
President Barack Obama — Has a nice ring to it, don’t you think? Obama 08′
Posted by: dan | July 24, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Suggest all here google ‘Bradley Effect’ and read it carefully. It will expalin jsut why the hyper ventilating Obamacons will be so devastated come election day.
LOL, this empty suit has as much chance of being president as i do.
Posted by: JjV | July 24, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
JenG
You don’t really believe that, right?
You are watching too much Faux News my friend.
If you think the Democrats in Congress caused our problems, then check out the election results in November asA merican voters sweep out the Repubicans who caused the problem.
Even all of the Republican leaders know that a bloodbath is coming.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
Posted by: toothchipper55 | July 24, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Karen- I appreciate once again your loyalty to party first before loyalty to objectivity. Are you better off now than in 2000? Hmmmm? If I recall, we balanced the budget, reformed welfare, passed NAFTA, lowered taxes as a result of the Contract with America in 1994. Then Prez. Clinton was smart enough to sign such legislation. Now, after the mid-terms in ’06 and Dem. control, we have inflation through the roof, the dollar in the tank, an out of control federal budget, etc…. all thanks to “Change we Could Believe In” by Pelosi and Harry Reid. 11% congressional approval rating. Take off your party lens and put on the lens of patriotism and vote ALL INCUMBENTS OUT OF OFFICE and realize that govt. is the problem not the solution. Read the FAIR TAX book and join the spirited revolution! Brad the Patriot
Posted by: Brad | July 24, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Whaou neil! you are just better and better. There is only one way for this country to get better. It’s Obama all the way. Sorry that Hillary did not win the primary, but this is life, sometime you win sometime you lose. Ciao
Posted by: goDem | July 24, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Mark,
Awesome and significant observation! Why would O’Bama choose to speak to Germans and not American soldiers in Germany?!
Posted by: new englander | July 24, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Yes and that’s why he [Obama] leads by 6 in polls and electoral-ly by 322 to McCains 216
Posted by: Vanessa | July 24, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
a speech at the Victory Column at Tiergaten Park, only Presidents do that!
Posted by: goDem | July 24, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
As a marketing guy, I am truly amazed at “The Audacity of Hype” that I am witnessing. This is unprecedented in my almost 50 years. The picture that the Obama campaign released of him having a charcoal sketch done was way way way over the top. (Did you noticed the charcoal portrait of Christ that was juxtaposed next to his face?)
All of this reminds me of the 90s song by Living Colour, “Cult of Personality”.
All of this is amazing considering tht this is a FRESHMAN SENATOR with no track record and no notable accomplishments.
Is it this easy to manipulate millions of Americans? It seems that it is, if you have a good marketing team.
Posted by: Steve | July 24, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
“The time to vote for McCain…was in 2000″
I agree. If the McCain in 2000 was the same McCain in 2008 he would stand a chance. He basically flip-flopped on all the major issues to please the right and who knows if he will stick by them. No wonder the conservative don’t trust him.
Posted by: Vanessa | July 24, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Europe may be allied to the U.S. but thank goodness we’ve never been influenced by their tastes especially in our politics. I do believe they unanimously “elected” John Kerry the last time around. That right there says a lot. The U.S. of A. is great because we’re our own mind, not Germany’s. They can keep B. Hussein O.
Posted by: Al | July 24, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
mark – This election is not ALL about the military and the war. I understand McCain and his followers want to make it a one issue election because that’s pretty much all McCain has and that’s not much only continuation of the current miserable policies. Bush was elected based on fear and look what that got us, the absolute worst President in the history of our country.
Posted by: dan | July 24, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
“You know, they were presidents,” Obama said, ” I am a citizen. But obviously Berlin is representative of the extraodinary success of the post World War II effort to bring the continent together and the West together and then later to bring the East and the West together so, so I think it’s a natural place to talk about it.”
YEAH, IT’S ALSO REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FACT THAT YOU GROW DEMOCRACY BY FIRST BOMBING THE SMITHEREENS OUT OF YOUR ENEMIES UNTIL THEY CRY UNCLE, NOT BY PULLING OUT YOUR TROOPS EARLY. AMERICAN PACIFISTS WANTED NO PART OF WWII, AND WOULD NOT HAVE FREED BERLIN.
Posted by: Eli | July 24, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
After returning, I beg Obama will shout to everyone’s ears that please add his 5-day trip to Afghanistan, Iraq, Jordan, Israel, and Berlin this week to his thin resume on foreign policy. FIVE DAYS?????? HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!
This phony guy can have everything except my vote. The crowd in Berlin won’t go to the polls, Americans will and they are not stupid!
Posted by: Lola | July 24, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
I could see him getting a million of the same socialist freaks who tried to stand in the way of the US, bringing down the wall seperating East and West Germany. But its down, despite these wacko liberals attempts to stop it, and germany/world is better for it, but like Obama and “the surge” they cant see reality if it hit them in the face..and it did. Obama has no experience, is on both sides of every issue, and is being aided by a love sick media attempting to steal the elections and defile Americas constitution and urinate on our founders graves by putting a liberal marxist in command..high treason violates every single founding document we have…”We the people” is slowly becoming we the GOVERNMENT, complete with wealth redistribution, artificial gas price hikes driven by tax hungry democrats who refuse to use the ample supply of oil we have right under us, because they are in bed with the envirowacko LOBBYISTS…this is new? this is Chnage? This is criminal is what it is, its fraud and WE WILL have a violent revolution HERE if it continues, thats why MSM viewership/readership is dropping like a rock… Its time WE THE PEOPLE ELIMINATE the threat to our REPUBLIC by casting out the Tyrants by ANY and ALL means necessary as John Adams TOLD US!
Posted by: Tom | July 24, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Dear Jane and Dan
And the point is – Please address the issues and do not attack the person. Especially if that person has served in the military.
They have earned the right to advocate for or against the war.
My problem is with the Chicken Hawks who want more war even though they have never sacrificed anything for it.
At all events, stick to the issues. Above all else, Obama and McCain have enough differences that you ought to be able to decide based on their positions and their abilities.
One does not need to engage in character assasination and misrepresentation.
Posted by: toothchipper55 | July 24, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
that fact that the French love this guy makes me even more convinced he is so wrong for this country. This rock star crap is really wearing thin….
the audacity of HYPE
The French love Jerry Lewis too…another clown
Posted by: babsNJ | July 24, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
The “surge” itself did not work. It HELPED to totally occupy Iraq.
What DID totally occupy Iraq was the
“surge”, which was lied to us to be only a six-month increase in troops, AND the greater reason for the total occupation, which were those brigades and platoons that were stationed on the borders of urban areas moving into the towns and villages at the cost of more
lives.
Now to sit back and brag that we have arrived at this definition of success is to first say, that “occupation of another country” itself is a “success” and second is to say that the occupation of another country as a result of a war crime invasion of that country is a “success”.
(Easy to forget that second consideration isn’t it?”
Sorry but this WAR CRIME of invading Iraq is, and will always be, TOPIC number ONE.
All other arrangements of verbs and phrases are, and always will be,
sub-topics.
But have fun, within wars battles can be won.
Posted by: ajaxtheleast | July 24, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
saddayforamerica; We are not a proud country now. The european community think we are a joke. America and Americans use to be loved and liked! Everyone want to be like us Americans. No more! We cannot hold our collective head up in the European Community or pretty much anywhere in the world. Once America was a nation of Visionaries now we are a nation of warmongers. We have ended up so full of ourselves that we have lost all respect. Obama, he is helping our image. Most of not all of Europe likes him and he handles him self very well.
Posted by: Iam4thiscountry | July 24, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
That’s a funny perspective about obama’s popularity in Europe.
Personally, I’m just happy to see an American Leader who is not hated by people in other countries.
If the observer is trying to pick this event apart, then he or she is missing the point.
The Germans (like other people) are looking for more peace and less war.
They want to live in a safer world, and most people think Obama can move us in that direction.
And if you thought that Senator Obama’s college events were like rock concerts, check out his reception in Berlin today.
The majority of people in other countries do really like Obama, primarily because he is neither John McCain nor George Bush.
They correctly perceive that McCain will be a continuation of Bush’s foreign interventionist policies – in fact, he intends to advance and exacerbate those failed policies.
Posted by: toothchipper55 | July 24, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Steve – all campaigns are marketing campaigns. You just sound jealous that Obama’s is so much better than tired old man McSame’s.
Posted by: keefer | July 24, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
On Obama Berlin fliers:
Note that they were not distributed by Obama’s campaign but by AMERICAN DEMOCRATS IN BERLIN.
Posted by: Katya | July 24, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Mark
Obama looks pretty popular with the troops in Afghanistan.
Hw will be quite fine as Commander in Chief.
Ralax and enjoy the ride brother.
Posted by: toothchipper55 | July 24, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
“The question is “Are you better off today than you were 8 years ago?” ”
Umm… YES!
The country may not be better off… but I am.
Posted by: sleepy | July 24, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Vernon – in case you missed it, Germany has the largest overseas population of American voters anywhere in the world. I myself have relatives there. My uncle is a former military man who married a German woman while he was stationed there and decided to stay. He is still an American citizen and a registered voter. When I visit his family – in a very small town in the Rhon region – I am always amazed at the amount of resident Americans I meet there. Obama is in the right place, making a symoblic gesture to all American voters living in Europe. Duh.
Posted by: lea | July 24, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Waw…so many Obama haters…I have a feeling too many people will be in a very bad mood on the 4th of November.
Posted by: mycerinos | July 24, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
I saw some news clips of the crowd waiting and many of the people look like the same crowd that protests the G8 and World Bank meetings. I can guess that a large number of these people were wearing Che Guevara shirts and breaking the windows of Starbucks a few months ago.
Posted by: Kevin K | July 24, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Perhaps my perception is off, but I think it is glaringly obvious that the world is downright hungry for peace and a coming together of the minds to make it so. They are no longer inclined to tolerate hate and war for its sake alone, and thus will very soon not allow it anymore. Just as we Americans do not and will not be sold a bill of goods in order to invade sovereign nations.
That is why the image of Senator Obama travelling the world, in the role of a peacemaker (and not a warmonger) is so appealing.
Repubs, you might just want to try it. Otherwise, any words you say here to persuade anybody differently ring hollow and you will be left behind while the rest of the world, and the US moves forward.
Posted by: Ellen | July 24, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
The Mcain supporters and republicans are just jealous because europe is not interested in a whiney warmonger lying old fool listen up mccain whiners deal with it europe loves obama now get your tissuses out in nov your gonna need them!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: angie | July 24, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Jed – posting links to rightwing neo-con spin papers is a waste of time and space. They have no relevance due to their obnoxiously obvious slant.
Posted by: dan | July 24, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Meanwhile, here in the real world, it’s pretty obvious that Obama wants to send a message to civilians and military people alike, which is why he chose to forgo the symbolism of the military base. Unlike old man McSame, Obama is running on bigger issues than just war, war and more war.
Posted by: Katie In Texas | July 24, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Obama is a crapshoot!!!
Posted by: justme | July 24, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Steve wrote : “Is it this easy to manipulate millions of Americans? It seems that it is, if you have a good marketing team.”
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Steve, you have to know the answer to this question, because Bush did it and he used the media, remember? The push for the Iraq war, which has done nothing for America except cost it more BLOOD and TREASURE. C’mon man, read drudgereport, huffington post, or cnn.
Posted by: tiger2471 | July 24, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Uuhhhhhhhhhhhh, let me be clear, uhhhhhhhhh…my purpose in giving a speech in Berlin, uhhhhhhhh as I’ve always said, uuhhhhhh is to give the impression uhhhhh that I am presidential, uhhhhhhhhhh let me be clear about that.
Posted by: Superpower | July 24, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
All I will say is this; I find it very interesting that with all of the hype and excitement about the “MESSIAH”, that Obama and McCain are virtually tied in the polls. When and If OBama losses the election, psychiatrists are going to be racking up
God Bless
Posted by: Doug | July 24, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
toothchipper,
ok keep comforting yourself with those words. However, considering that Ramstien is the largest and longest US military installation in history, people may start noticing that he drove right past a major constituency who might deserves some face time maybe just a smidgin more than the Berliners. Of course I do tend to favor Americans. I guess thats the difference between a self serving globalist and a patriot.
Posted by: Mark | July 24, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Let’s hope that Obama’s teleprompter doesn’t fail so he won’t embarrass us with his incoherent babbling. Watching Obama’s daily adjustments in his Iraq policy; and, his repeated attempts to explain what he REALLY meant to say on the issue the previous day, portrays the man as a truly sympathetic figure who is analogous to an athlete mistakenly entered into an Olympics level competition when in actuality he has yet to qualify in the Pop Warner leagues. Obama delivered the final blow to his multiple reversals when he announced PRIOR-TO his Iraq trip that he would be going to Iraq to investigate the ACTUAL conditions on the ground in that intensely critical region of the Middle East. In other words, his so called fact-finding trip is a total sham to paper over his confused and contradictory policy statements. Obama is unequivocally the least qualified Presidential candidate ever nominated by a major political party. If the man were auditioning for a role as a replacement for Jay Leno as a stand-up comic we all could see the humor in his embarrassing predicament; but, this inept clown is actually running for the Presidency of the most powerful nation on earth. All Americans of good will had best begin to ask where is the source of Obama’s enormous campaign contributions?
Posted by: Greg Neubeck | July 24, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Toothchipper55: Congress’ approval rating was just 21% in December 2006 — reflecting the mood of the country which returned the control of Congress back to the Democrats. In January 2007 Congress’ approval rating jumped up to 35% — reflecting the people’s greater expectation of the Democrats. In March 2007 Congress’ approval rating dropped below 30% and it has been steadily dropping ever since. Depending upon the poll, Congress’ approval rating is now between 9% and 14%. The American people are definitely assessing some of the blame for our economic downturn in the past 18 months to the Democratically controlled Congress.
The American people realize that it has been the Democrats’ and the environmentalist’s 30-year policies of banning offshore drilling, blocking drilling on existing leased lands, blocking the building of new refineries and blocking the building of nuclear reactors that has resulted in the near $5 per gallon price for gasoline. The American people are also well aware of the Democrats’ 30 years of advocating that we Americans pay the same price for our gasoline that Europeans pay for theirs–currently $6-$8. Well the Democrats are on the verge of getting THEIR wish!
Posted by: James Danley | July 24, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Kevin K – based on what? Your past attendence at world bank and G8 protests?
Posted by: nimbus | July 24, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
I am a democrat who, until recently, was an Obama supporter. I find it insulting that during his travels this week he has acted as if he has already won the general election. I don’t recall it taking place yet. His assumption that he will win, his arrogance in meeting with leaders in Europe and the Middle East are nothing more than posturing. I expected more from him. Obama needs to drastically check his ego.
I will now be voting for John McCain. I find his experience, record and courage admirable. He has been honest and straight forward. I simply can’t find an issue upon which to pin Obama down on. I have tried earnestly to support him but he just doesn’t stand for anything. Just when I think he does, he backs down and says whatever makes him look good. He has no record to back him up. At least with McCain, the American people know exactly who and what they’re getting. I now feel that a vote for Obama as President is a dangerous choice. I would like to see him return to the Senate and actually prove himself. Right now, he is an arrogant, inexperienced puppet. What a disappointment.
Perhaps in 2012, he will be ready. At this point in time he simply is not. Play acting is not reality and he needs a good dose of it.
Posted by: Kimberly | July 24, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Brad: this is what is wrong with us – demand for instant gratification!! You know that in 2000, we inherited all the bonuses from Clinton and it stayed with us for a couple of years. Then GW started destroying it almost immediately and even the trickle-down effects from Bill dissipated. Nothing happens right away, but in the last years, the rich got richer, paid less in taxes and the rest of us began the slide downhill. Even if Obama is elected, it will definitely take several years for recovery. It will not happen outright, even as we wish it to be. Neither will situations change right away in foreign lands – the damage done by GW and gang will take a long while to be repaired. But isn’t this better than a confused and forgetful old man trying to muddle his way to more damage?? We should not expect anything to turn around as soon as we have a new president, but the odds are good if Obama is elected. As for McSame, you can expect more of a slippery slope downhill, and perhaps even more terror even as he is hoping for one now, which he and his supporters think will greatly boost his chances if it did happen right now.
Posted by: Karen | July 24, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
neil wrote:
I believe that she has already spoken to John Edwards about him jumping back on the ticket as VP. John is the man with ethics, morals, and he’s standing by his wife during her time of crisis. He looks good on paper and he’s not a threat.
************
Hey pal, John Edwards was caught at a hotel with a mistress. So much for your “psychic”. She couldn’t see THAT coming?
Posted by: Jane Hussein | July 24, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
How each of the candidates perceives time:
Obama remembers the ’80′s.
McCain is approaching 80.
McCain for President…in 2000.
Posted by: John | July 24, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Just when you thought the right-winged, fox-watching poeple could not become any stupider, you get comments like “America will be fine by itself no matter what the rest of the world thinks”, “Obama is a terrorist”.
Have you guys not been following the financial news recently. America is entering a full-blown recession, maybe even a depression.
Most large financial institutions are increasingly being financed by Sovereign Wealth Funds. That means that as soon as these wealth funds acquire 51+ % of the shares of these companies, they won’t be american companies anymore.
The sovereign wealth funds will use these majority stakes as bargaining chips to control American Public and Foreign policy.
Barrack is at least cozying up with countries that have America’s well being as primary interests. Better Europe be on America’s side then Russia or Saudi Arabia.
I mean, for christs sake, the CANADIAN dollar is higher then the American dollar.
Posted by: Nick Canuck | July 24, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
I’m still a Republican–barely–and I’m an angry one at that. Frankly I think that makes me like a lot of Republicans nowadays, although most of the angry Republicans don’t speak out. With that said, I don’t believe Mr. Obama being elected as President can possibly be any worse than what we’ve had for the past eight years.
I’d rather have a big ol’ liberal who wants to spend money here at home than a fake conservative who sees no problem burning our tax dollars in foreign countries and borrowing from China at every opportunity.
Doesn’t ANYONE in the Republican party remember fiscal responsibility? Oh yeah… there was that one guy who was running for president. You know, the little old man with the funny voice who was the only one to talk common sense? But he was kicked to the curb because he dares to remember what Republicanism is supposed to be about.
Sad really. The one candidate who best represents the principles upon which the Republican party was founded has been ostracized by the party. That speaks volumes to me.
I’m not voting for Obama, but I’m sure as heck not voting for McCain. And you can cry and whine all you want about Obama’s birth certificate (as if the State Department hasn’t confirmed he’s eligible?) and his top secret plan to institute Sharia law after being sworn in with his hand on the Koran (as if he alone makes the law?)–I just don’t care anymore.
The party is going to hell in a hand-basket, and you’re all just looking to push it faster and faster down the hill. I’d be on the look-out for a massive influx of ex-Republicans to the Libertarian and Constitution parties. The exodus from the Republican party has already begun, but some of you are too blind to even realize it.
Posted by: gb8898 | July 24, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Brad: this is what is wrong with us – demand for instant gratification!! You know that in 2000, we inherited all the bonuses from Clinton and it stayed with us for a couple of years. Then GW started destroying it almost immediately and even the trickle-down effects from Bill dissipated. Nothing happens right away, but in the last years, the rich got richer, paid less in taxes and the rest of us began the slide downhill. Even if Obama is elected, it will definitely take several years for recovery. It will not happen outright, even as we wish it to be. Neither will situations change right away in foreign lands – the damage done by GW and gang will take a long while to be repaired. But isn’t this better than a confused and forgetful old man trying to muddle his way to more damage?? We should not expect anything to turn around as soon as we have a new president, but the odds are good if Obama is elected. As for McSame, you can expect more of a slippery slope downhill, and perhaps even more terror even as he is hoping for one now, which he and his supporters think will greatly boost his chances if it did happen right now.
Posted by: Karen | July 24, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
If you people vote McCain into office, and when we are all standing in a food line, if I hear one whinny word out of your mouth about how bad your government is (like you are doing with Bush right now) I am going to stick the dirt that you seem to want to dish out daily on Obama back in as fast as I can and hope you choke on it.
Posted by: becky | July 24, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
How refreshing it would be to NOT be hated around the world. I might actually be able to watch a presidential speech and not cringe. His rhetoric will change once he is in the job and reality hits. What I am counting on is his ability and intelligence to surround himself with the brightest and the best and make the best decisions for this country.
If he bungles this opportunity he knows that it will be another 200 years before another African-American dare try for the job. A lot rests on his shoulders and he realizes it.
I am willing to give him a chance. Besides, it is going to take at least 20 years to undo the damage done in the last 8. 1/20/09….maybe church bells will ring..people will throw parties.
Posted by: Kathy | July 24, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Kimberly,
HAHAHAHAHA
Nice attempt. No one changes from supporting Obama to McCain over a week period of time and hoping he’ll gain experience by 2012 to vote for him. LOL.
Posted by: Vanessa | July 24, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Europe loved Gore and Kerry too! Just a Civics 101 reminder… Europeans don’t get to vote in US elections.
Posted by: T-ster | July 24, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Kimberly- Your objectivity is admirable, good to see some still actually think for them selves. I started as a Hillary supporter but have gone in the same direction.
Posted by: Mickey | July 24, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Neal1785; Obama has sthe support of most vets. and in Germany today there well be lots of overseas Americans in that crowd. McCain has small town hall meetings because he cannot generate the enthusiasm to fill anything bigger.
Posted by: Iam4thiscountry | July 24, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Looks like he’s doing well. Good for him.
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Huckabee ’08
Posted by: J. Harris | July 24, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
“You know, we’re sort of on the high wire all of the sudden.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 24, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
James Danley – that’s some spin there, big fella, but if you drilled down in those polls you cite to approval ratings by party, you’ note that the Dems in Congress actually enjoy a higher level of support than both the Congressional Republicans and Bush. It’s the aggregate numbers that’s dragging down Congress’ rating as a whole – basically people are tired of Congress getting steamrolled by and acting as a rubber stamp for Bush. And since the Democratic majority is so thin, most sensible folks see the GOP as the real problem.
Posted by: nimbus | July 24, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
The world is tired of war-mongering and they are overwhelming against the invasion of Iraq. They had no problem with America going after the people that attacked us but the view of our country changed when the Bush/Cheney administration decided to browbeat England and a few other countries into a war that never should have been started. The world looks at McCain as just another Bush, and why wouldn’t they? McCain is running on fear and promising more war, just like Bush.
Posted by: dan | July 24, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
I am not an analysts or even qualified to speak about politics except from own perspective. Outside of politics there are a few things I have learned about people.
People don’t want to be wrong. People don’t want there beliefs to be wrong. I too, am guilty of such pride. I believe that I am mostly right, however, when proven wrong, I succumb and lay down, admitting my shortcomings.
I have also been in many fights, both verbal and physical. This just happens and these aren’t right nor wrong. However, when you are losing an argument and must resort to spouting off nonsense, there is no use in continue the altercation – you have lost.
This is simply what I see on all of these political blogs – loss. The right side has lost, but will say whatever it can think of to salvage their share of dignity. In doing so, they retain none of it.
Someone stated that the ousting of both sides would bring about the brightest and truest change in our nation – i agree. Bi-Partisan politics are an insult to the forefathers of democracy and to the great philosopher behind it’s principles. However, many of us are forced to live within these constraints. Rather than work against or each other, we should work with the system. Ideally, this would be our first recourse of action, but god gave us one last trait we hold onto dearly and that is pettiness.
Posted by: BumpinUgs | July 24, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
AL – actually, Clinton successfully intervened in Bosnia and basically saved NATO in the process. Also, the cuts in the military were a bi-partisan venture that were actually initiated under George H.W. Bush, not Clinton.
Posted by: Kimbers | July 24, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Vanessa,
My change of support did not occur merely over a week’s time. It was a progression which, as a democrat, troubled me greatly.
Obama’s antics this past week simply cemented my decision. I suggest you do some objective research. I wish you well.
Posted by: Kimberly | July 24, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Obama is filling up stadiums and coliseums…..McCain couldn’t fill up a family room !!!!!!!!
Posted by: Order | July 24, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Dan-
You have some interesting insight but don’t put so much faith in John Edwards as a man of solid “ethics!” I know that the National Enquirer is not the most reliable source for anything remotely objective, but why are the major media outlets not reporting about his being caught with his supposed mistress and “Love Child” out in LA? Will be interesting to see if any of this is true. The Enquirer is for astrologists and Nancy Reagan types, but you can’t refute cameras and reporters catching him sneaking out the basement of a hotel at 2:30 AM then running for his life to lock himself into a bathroom! If this were a Republican or Mike Huckabee for example, this would be THE #1 STORY IN THE MEDIA right now holding up yet another “Pseudo-Christian” for not holding firm to his “neo-con beliefs.” The secularists would be foaming at the mouth.
Posted by: brad | July 24, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Not to get to intellectual, but, OBAMA IS AN IDIOT!!!! NO OBAMA, NO WAY.
Posted by: dazy | July 24, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
CONSTITUTION PARTY!
Posted by: Kevin | July 24, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
very well put nimbus
Posted by: dan | July 24, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Kimberly – why do you Obama haters always assume that the rest of us haven’t already done our objective research? I have, and I’ve concluded that I prefer Obama’s policies to those of Mr. McCain. Why can’t you people respect that instead of always trying to smear us as “obamabots”? You aren’t going to win over anyone to your side by insulting their intelligence.
Posted by: nicodemus | July 24, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
They are unloading the beer kegs for the speech. Hopefuly that will boost his numbers at the speech but my guess is he got a large space and is now worried how to fill it. Well Obama sometimes you do not get what you pay for. America is not for Sale. His speech aimed to get other countries to step up to the plate will not be well received if he is implying send more of your people to war zones. Does he realy feel the other countries will fall under the Obama spell and do anymore then they have done in the past? When he redeploys the troops from Iraq to Afganistain as he says he will do. I have this challange to the Obama supporters who love our troops in combat.
As you know we have an all volunteer force and they have been strained by the need to fight in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Constant deployment very little down time at home before they are sent back. I have noted your concern as to this problem. Obama stated we needed what 30,000 more so lets split the diffrence 15,000 of the Obama supporters enlist serve your country with something other then your money and your mouth. Be a part of the Surge in Afganistan Obama supports it.
By the way the framework for the surge started back in Feb. The increase in violance that you have just now noticed was anticipated and troops redeployed from other areas to fill the gap you may have missed that bit of news. More are needed Obama supports it so step up to the plate ENLIST now.
Posted by: Jace | July 24, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
“You know, its not a political rally.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 24, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
” . . . The people who supported him can have him. ”
Sounds good to me.
You keep John McBush and the rest of the Republi-crooks.
I’ll take Obama any day.
Posted by: Continuum | July 24, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
I don’t know – I think the left underestimates how much the quality of defiance underlies the notion of America and informs America’s perspective on Europe and the rest of the world. I don’t dislike Obama (I’ll be voting for McCain for security reasons) but one way for him to get my back up is to try and bring European opinion to bear in this election. Germany wants Barack? Let Germany import and elect him. Otherwise, there’s a lot of things I disagree with German opinion on and trying to coerce me with things European will certainly harden me against him.
Also – the “worship” level of Obama support has gotten a little frightening. Now he’s going to lower the gas prices (how, exactly?), get all the unemployed people their jobs back (how, exactly?), and zing the economy back into full swing (how, exactly?). And, in the absence of telling us how exactly he’ll do this, we’re just supposed to melt trustingly into his baritone voice and the very idea of Barack Obama.
He’ll lead us out of the wilderness, and we’re supposed to just know this because … because … just because he says it so deeply and smoothly and gets our legs all tangly and stuff.
Posted by: tamdar | July 24, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
kimberly: Nice try, but I really doubt if you were ever an Obama supporter. If you were you would be PROUD of how he is handling himself. You have to remember McCain is the one tht suggested that Obama go to Iraq. So McCain got wha he asked for and much more. 2)he has been depicted that he knows nothing about foriegn policy, but the heads of these countries like him a lot. 3) would you want a president that looks and acts like he is or one that looks like and acts like he should be retired? Obama does carry himself very well. You should see all the people waiting to hear him speak. I wonder how many who have come if it had been McCain
Posted by: Iam4thiscountry | July 24, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
And yet Obama and his team are also sensitive to being seen as presumptuous, of acting like a president before the people have their say this November.
Apparently not sensitive enough. He’s making a complete fool of himself. Obama’s campaign is tanking faster than the Titanic.
Posted by: No Se Puede | July 24, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Order, your comment was funny…..and true.
Posted by: TW | July 24, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Obama-Hasselhoff ’08!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Eric | July 24, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
“They are unloading the beer kegs for the speech.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 24, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
You guys should be watching CNN. The reporter just said that our national rating has plunged drasticll in the last 8 years. do you really want more of the same? McCain will protect our boarders but we will never beable to hold our head up ouside this country. Maybe we should put a fence u all around our borders and keep everyone out and all us in.
Posted by: Iam4thiscountry | July 24, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Bush or McSame could never pull this off. Bush reads on a third grade level while McSame has to have things read to him.
Posted by: spoon2456 | July 24, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Kimberly says: “I am a democrat who, until recently, was an Obama supporter. I find it insulting that during his travels this week he has acted as if he has already won the general election. I don’t recall it taking place yet. His assumption that he will win, his arrogance in meeting with leaders in Europe and the Middle East are nothing more than posturing. I expected more from him.”
What utter rubbish. You never intended to vote for him anyway. How did you expect him to act on this trip? Like a groveling, insecure, bumbling idiot? Do you have a problem with seeing a presidential candidate act with confidence, intelligence, humility (“They were presidents, I am a citizen”), and self respect on the world stage? Do you have a problem with the fact that he is liked and respected by world leaders? Or you simply have a problem with the fact that he is a black man who is comfortable in his own skin and looks as if he belongs on the world stage and in the White House?
Posted by: RasKente | July 24, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Too funny! Obama is outraising McCain in Arizona!!!
Posted by: Jane Hussein | July 24, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Good thing Barry Obama has his priorities straight. I understand that he canceled his plans to visit U.S. troops in Germany because he allegedly did not have enough time. However, based on the quotes from this article he apparently has enough time to “tour around a little bit.”
Posted by: Robert Marley | July 24, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Nimbus, most of the 68 million acres of undrilled lands for which the oil companies hold leases are on national park and national monument land. Just because the government has given them a lease does not exempt them from having to submit environmental impact statements and from lawsuits blocking the drilling. Just the other day a federal judge blocked such drilling on leased land. The Democrats have been advocating a $1-$3 increase in the federal tax for years. The Democrats are right now considering a 50 cent increase of the federal tax on gasoline.
Posted by: James Danley | July 24, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
After reading this and some other articles and comments heard on TV, it seems to me that the media is just hoping to catch Obama saying something not quite “politically correct” so they can blast him all over the world. Granted, they are giving him good coverage but I think it is a double-edged sword. Good coverage on one side and the hope of a huge slip of the tongue on the other side so they can carry it on to November. No doubt about it folks, the media plays a larger role in our lives that we can imagine. This is one of them, one slip by Obama and if it is up to the media, it will be McCain inthe WH in 2009. God forbid that! Be careful what comes out of your mouth Obama. They will probably play up the “crapshoot” remark to make if look bad.
Posted by: Ron | July 24, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Since there are sooo many smart people on this blog (mccain supporters)i have one question. So far noone has been able to answer it. Actually maybe it is a 2 parter. What is McCains definition of “Victory” or “Winning the war” and what is his plan on winning in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Posted by: Iam4thiscountry | July 24, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Obama reminds me of three people: Kennedy, MLK and Reagan. He’s kind of an odd mix of all of them.
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Guilt by Association:
Obama would like to forget being a fan of the Jackson 5.
McCain would like to forget being a member of the Keating 5.
Posted by: John | July 24, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
You repubs can insult, kick and scream ALL YOU WANT TO.
The bottom line is that most people are SICK of bush and the republican pary’s (mis)handling over the past 7 years. You guys had the opportunity and BLEW IT!!!
This economy SUCKS and this war is a disaster.
McBUSH DOESN’T STAND A CHANCE !!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Order | July 24, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
iam4thiscountry – McCain’s definition of winning the war is prolonging it as long as possible to enrich Haliburton and his other defense industry donors, and drain the Federal Treasury dry so that he can turn around and cancel social welfare programs claiming that “there’s no money left.” The GOP wants to sabotage this country and our freely elected government with their failed war.
Posted by: lascar | July 24, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
magnificent amber – I think you need to read a little about history. Try a simple Google on Democrat, Socialist, Marxist, communist and see what they all have in common. Sice Europe is primarily socialist (nanny states) maybe you will see why Bama is so popular.
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Want a great example of socialism? Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Bear Stearns!
Posted by: Hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
You are absolutely right Eric S. I visited Europe just last October. It is a beautiful country that has come a long way. The sad thing is that most places would not accept the dollar because it was on such a steady decline. Even if they charged me that days rate whichmight have been $1.42 to 1 Euro. By the time they would cash the money at the bank, the dollar may have declined even further and they would end up losing out. So they would refuse the dollar. Not only the Europeans have free healthcare, prenant mothers are taken care of once they have their babies as well. So while the mother is at home with her baby right after giving birth, the government gives her financial assistance for a certain amount of time until she returns to work. Yes America can learn a lot from Europe and having a better relationship with them can only make America better.
Posted by: jay | July 24, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
how can the senator possibly know how many people will be there, when he doesnt
know how many states there are in the
U.S.
Posted by: cotton joe | July 24, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Apparently not sensitive enough. He’s making a complete fool of himself. Obama’s campaign is tanking faster than the Titanic.
Who says he has made fool of himself? he would be making a fool of himself if noone showed up to hear him speak. And he is not giving a speach at a military base becaue alot of civilians want to here him speak. Do you think that they would let all these civilians on our base? Not Likely? On CNN they just reported that Hispanics (according to the Poll) are overwhelmingly for Obama. Does that sound like he is tanking?
Posted by: Iam4thiscountry | July 24, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Obama is no JFK or Reagan. He is a cheaper imitation than a 10 dollar Rolex.
Posted by: Johnny | July 24, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
OBAMANOT= A person who is easily confused, easily persuaded, worships rock stars and movie stars, never misses American Idol, lives to text, thinks Kim Jomg il is a new roch band, believes saddam was really not a bad guy, belives the U.S. is whats wrong with the world, and finally, thinks that snail darters are more important than humans.
Posted by: billy bob | July 24, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
I did enjoy John McCain’s press conference in front of the cheese section at a grocery store. Ah, the magic that is McCain stagecraft. WHO is running his campaign, David Letterman?
Posted by: Jane Hussein | July 24, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
I just thought of something: didn’t McCain actually goad Obama into this trip? Sorta backfired, don’t you think? I don’t think he’ll be doing that “countdown” thing again anytime soon. Ha!
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
We are watching history in the making as the next President of the United States repairs our relationships with other countries, which were damaged to the point of almost being irreparable by George W. Bush and the GOP. It gives me goose bumps to think of how good Obama will be for America and the rest of the world, when he is elected President.
Posted by: caliguy55 | July 24, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Hey Fellow Americans!
Look at us sharing ideas, comments and such! We are so lucky to be living in the United States of America!
People all around the world flock here by the millions…Who says we’re not proud?
I’m a PROUD AMERICAN! Go America!
Posted by: new englander | July 24, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
lascar: Thanks for the definition. But I was hoping a McCain person would give me the definitions. But, I guess i (and the rest of the country) will never know unless he becomes president. I wonder if McCain even knows. Got to run. late for work. Good, that I own my own business.
Obama 08
Posted by: Iam4thiscountry | July 24, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
hey Scoob:
McCain reminds me of three people: LBJ, Nixon, and Grandpa Simpson.
Posted by: gb8898 | July 24, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Obama would like to forget being a fan of the Jackson 5.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 24, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Karen ..
Bush inherited the Clinton recession in 2001. This is due to the end of the Dot.Bomb bubble, for which Bubba just happened to be sitting in the Chair. Dims like to think of that as the “good old days.” It was a house of cards, built on companies which had absolutely NO value and yet were recipients of millions of dollars of investment. And Americans lost BILLIONS of dollars in their retirement and investment accounts as a result.
I find it hilarious how left-wingers always want to rewrite history by glorifying Bubba’s economic record!
Posted by: DJ | July 24, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Dan – au contrarie, mon frere – I think YOU need a little history lesson if you confuse American democrats with socialists and communists. Meanwhile, today’s Republican party had devolved into a classic fascist organization espousing classic fascist tentes.
Posted by: MARINE COMBAT VET | July 24, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
I wonder how much sleep liberals loose because europeans don’t like America. Just do this. Blame me, a conservative, because I can honestly say in a day in my life I don’t have a moment to spend on worrying about what someone thinks of me. As if you libs could actually convey this so call “pain” you experience because Europeans don’t like “us”.
Posted by: Billy Bob | July 24, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Hey J – Where were you trying to spend your $$ they would not take it?? Remember Paris is not south of the border, you have to have Euros to buy that Hamburger Royal. In case you are not aware of International Monetary Fund (IMF) regulations, Banks or Exchange offices are forbidden from refusing any currency that is part of the international banking system which participates in global exchange.
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
“crapshoot means the outcome could go one way or the other”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 24, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
DJ – so you want to dismiss the second longest period of peacetime economic growth and prosperity as a mere “bubble”? I call BS! You’re just spewing more Republican urban legends. Meanwhile, Clinton left Bush a massive budget surplus, which Bush squadered almost immediately – now we have a deficit and a national debt so high that it’s tanking the dollar’s value on the interanational market and causing a credit crisis worldwide. Nice try, dude.
Posted by: malinche | July 24, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
haha, belle. if you’re looking for nice people, don’t look to the media. nevertheless, i think it’s obvious what he means…
we don’t know the outcome yet.
Posted by: john d | July 24, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
TAMDAR- MCCAIN DOESN’T HAVE FAWNING PEOPLE BECAUSE NOBODY CARES.
This is a typical overstatement – very adolescent. The two candidates are close to tied in polls, and in any one of them I believe McCain has something like a 40% or more support among eligible voters, which would equate to tens of millions of people, which is way different than “NOBODY”
So – referring to Chris Matthews’ enthralled fawning over Barack is “sexually charged” in your book? Are you the example of how much smarter, nuanced, informed, tolerant, and moral the left is than all the rest of us?
And if you’ll point to me where John McCain or his supporters have claimed he’ll lower gas prices, get all the jobs back, and get the economy in full swing, I’ll go and find what he says about how he’ll do that. In the meanwhile, I’m still wondering what substance the religiosity over Obama is based on with such claims, and still don’t think it’s good for the country to be so smitten by the sound and appearance of a candidate. After such claims – right here in the comments – you simply refuse (a less-than-brilliant-looking yelling refusal) to back up those claims.
Posted by: tamdar | July 24, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
World opinion has a DIRECT and ENORMOUS impact on America economically. It’s extremely important, and we should indeed be losing sleep over it. People don’t do business with people they don’t like. Plain and simple. And that includes countries. Being respected in the world is directly related to the value of our currency and the health of our economy.
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Obama is an embarrassment to our country. Will he just go back to Chicago, and clean up his district where some places don’t even have running water? By the way, the book “Obama: The man without a mask” is being released today. If you Obama fanatics read it, I’m sure you’ll see why 60% of all Americans don’t trust him. Why was he elected in the primaries?….he wasn’t, like George Bush, he was SELECTED.
Posted by: Anna | July 24, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
My father was a lifer in the service, USAF, I grew up living all over the world. I remember the mental things my father had to go through as a military personnel, and the changes his family went through. I like John McCain, but he has more mental issues, because he was tortured. The wear and tear on his mind and body are beginning to stand out. I think the Rep selected the wrong man to represent the Rep party. We the people are beginning to see things like John McCain not remembering important issues. It would be a terrible mistake to elect him as our next President.
Obama is running circles around McCain.
Posted by: Jeannetta | July 24, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Is it just me, or if you close your eyes and listen to Obama speak does he sound like a dead ringer for Ted Knight on the Mary Tyler Moore show? Or Judge Smails for those who might be a little more familiar with Caddyshack.
Posted by: allen | July 24, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
allen – no, you’re thinking of Bill O’Reilly. Nice try.
Posted by: malinche | July 24, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Trust me and fear not, fellow nObamans ..
The Obamamamama backlash is coming! Many Americans who haven’t tired yet will be suffering Obamamamama fatigue VERY soon. This guy’s fifteen minutes are at about 14:55 and counting. The Press and their Obamamamama obsession are not doing their messiah a favor. It’s called over-exposure!
Posted by: DJ | July 24, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Obama the Smart Choice for AMERICA !!
we already had 7yrs of the VILLAGE IDIOT !!!!!!!!
Posted by: Nando, Florida | July 24, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
It is all one big photo op for Obama…VOTE McCAIN’08!
Posted by: 30yrdem-not any more | July 24, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
I think what many seem to forget that McCain used to be a media darling. McCain IS a democrat. Obama is a Marxist. Conservatives like myself are totally disgusted that we have to choose between Marxist Man and “Let the Aliens In” Crusader. What Europeans think of us means about as much to me as it means to them about my thoughts on Europe. Why Americans waste their money to travel there is beyond me. It used to be that presidential candidates campaigned in America. Now they campaign abroad to non-voters. Why aren’t Americans offended that BOTH candidates are thumbing their noses at what America wants?
Posted by: Just Me | July 24, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Anna – you must be pretty desperate to be shilling for a partisan smear job like that. Maybe if McCain wasn’t such a boring, cranky old coot and had more issues to run on than just Iraq, Iraq, Iraq you wouldn’t be so desperate. lol
Posted by: nando | July 24, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
I loved this part of the article:
“…events are clearly being staged with the intention of making voters back in the US comfortable with the notion of Obama as a commander-in-chief, an area where he needs shoring up.”
Isn’t that the whole point of being POTUS? To be “commander-in-chief”?
But hey, don’t let me throw water on this closet socialist’s alleviation of liberal white guilt.
Posted by: CPT Obvious | July 24, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Reagan? JKF? MLK??? Yeah, really not thinking so. I’m thinking more along the lines of Stalin. Can you say Fairness Doctrine? Oh and let us not forget that if you are firmly in the middle class, by the Obama calculations, you are really the upper class while the poverty line people are really the middle class. So if you are barely getting by each year, welcome to the “rich” classification and higher taxes so those who pay 0 tax can get a tax cut. I wonder if anyone explained to Obama that if someone doesn’t pay taxes and you give them a tax cut, it’s not really a cut, it’s a handout. Please Lord let Obama win so I can stop working to support my family and can just go on the system handout and get my tax cuts. Oh yes, and I can make sure my daughter learns Spanish so she can communicate with all the illegals who are really going to get around to learning English some day (NOT!), and college, I don’t need to worry about paying for college for my daughter because since I’m going to be such an under achiever, I can count on the tax money of everybody else to pay for my daughter’s education along with the illegals she’ll be attending school with. Let’s not forget my free healthcare that will be on par with most 3rd world countries in quality because only the lowest common denominator of doctors will be willing to take the lousy flat rates paid by government plans. Bring on the “change” Obama, I’m ready for an America that looks like Cuba.
Posted by: Shing | July 24, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Just Me – how, in your mind, is Obama a “Marxist” exactly? I don’t seem to remember him calling for the overthrow of the state and the rule of the proletariat.
Posted by: nando | July 24, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Don’t know if Obama sounds like Ted Knight, but I sure do miss that guy. He was one of the funniest people alive. I can’t think of him without laughing, especially the Caddyshack stuff.
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Guilty TV Pleasures of the Candidates:
Obama admits to watching “Sex in the City” occasionally.
McCain watches “Golden Girls” every afternoon before the early bird dinner.
Posted by: John | July 24, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
So, according to Shing, Obama is now equal to Stalin? You anti-Obama nuts are truly out of your minds. How about tamping down the hysterical nonsense just a bit . Obama really has you wingnuts tied up in knots, doesn’t he? It’s gonna be fun watching your little heads explode when he beats old man McSame in November.
Posted by: nando | July 24, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
hey Scoob – “you’ll get nothing and like it!”
Classic!
Posted by: nando | July 24, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
So since we like to compare Bama (BHO) to MLK, JFK, and god forbid even Reagan. Let’s take a look:
MLK devoted his life to civil rights bringing people together through common ground, with his 14 months of political experience BHO has done all he could to divide and conquer using rhetoric and confusion of fact from fiction.
JFK – War Hero, 14 years in Politics, a Family that devoted themselves to civil service. BHO, no service (but community organizer), 14 months politics (spent most of that campaigning for the next position), ashamed of his grandparents (ever seen them?) Deadbeat Dad impregnated a woman and ran off (surprise).
Ronald Reagan – Ended the cold War through strength by building an unprecedented defense (which Clinton all but destroyed), Europeans protested him before he forced the reunification of Germany. BHO- Says he will stop the missile defense program Reagan started, will stop all new military research activities, was tootin Coke and hitting the bong while watching the wall come down. MLK, JFK, and RWR all accomplished more before their 18th birthday than BHO has accomplished in his whole life.
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
JAY – Europe is a continent not a country. I think your experience may have been different country to country. What do you think the export/import ratio of immigrants is? If Europeans represent everything you hold dear, maybe you should consider migrating.
ALL – What does it matter how the speech/trip goes? Any voter that will be swayed by how many non-US citizens support a candidate needs to have their right to vote revoked.
Posted by: nhraider | July 24, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
CPT Obvious – um, no. Commander-In-Chief refers specifically to the armed forces, and the President obviously has many more duties than just that.
Of course nobody told McCain that, since he seems to be a one-issue candidate running for the Presidency of Iraq.
LOL
Posted by: nando | July 24, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Why whine about impending socialism for the poor? You have it for the rich right now. Your tax dollars are propping up more millionaires and billionaires than can be counted. Bush is taking your hard earned money and using it to prop up private corporations.
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
I love liberals obsession with Europeans “liking us”
I wonder why they constantly seek their approval like little wide eyed freshman coeds with their English 101 professors.
Is it the Eropenas good judgement they have historically show as it pertains to Appeasement, Fascism, Communism or Socialism? Maybe it was the 75 million poeple killed during the 20th Century Wars when Europe was in charge? The Holocaust perhaps?
How about the European imperialism that carved the Middle East up into the mess we have today? We have to try and fix their mess and what do we get from them? Criticism and resistnace to anything we do as they stand back and hold our coats, but always willing to make a few bucks (euro’s?) off of it.
I dont get it, maybe someone would enlighten me about the need to show Europeans we finally understand just how right they are and how wrong we are.
Not me.
Posted by: tr88 | July 24, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
When Senator McCain’s staff gave CBS the exclusive coverage of his mid-East trip in March they ploy was to get those “exclusive” primetime opportunities. That media control comes from the Karl Rove surrogate in charge of McCain’s campaign – Karl Rove was the master at media control and negative advertising. While attempting to distance themselves from Swifties, Karl managed to get the ten second candidate sound-bite of “we don’t think it’s right…” just before the media replayed this negative ads. It’s a new election and Senator Obama’s staff has certainly done something different. What upsets the Republicans more than Obama being warmly received is that the Democrats learned from the kleig lights of Bush in New Orleans before the church, the staged “Mission Accomplished”, the staged McCain visting the troops complete with campaign ads that followed that the media is not exclusive to the Republicans. While McCain’s campaign continued the negative attacks, the Obama campaign continued with the tour (which McCain all but dared him to make hopeful of massive errors) doing quite well on the international stage. And there is a BIG difference in acting like a President (Obama is a Senator who is running against another Senator to become President and the rest of the world gets it) and looking like a President and leader – and Obama is hitting that mark quite comfortably. What is coming out of this tour more than anything – and which the McCain campaign should have anticipated as pure poison for them but went ahead and keep pushing – is Obama’s clear way of explaining his thought process (like his vote against the surge), what he sees as inter-related issues to complex problems and how he takes in views from all sides.
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | July 24, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
“Why was he elected in the primaries?”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 24, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Obama was not elected in the primaries. He failed to win the required majority of delegates. He did not win the popular vote total.
Posted by: geevill | July 24, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
When I hear Obama speak, it reminds me of 3 people: JFK, MLK and Ronald Reagan. All three were powerful speakers with the ability to connect with audiences. All three inspired and motivated. All three asked people not to believe in them, but believe in themselves.
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
haha, i’m not a liberal. hahaha.
i have not posted one partisan comment yet. check it out from beginning to end before you start making accusations.
hahahaha!
Posted by: john d | July 24, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Obama was not elected in the primaries. He failed to win the required majority of delegates. He did not win the popular vote total.
Posted by: geevill | July 24, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
The name of the park is Tiergarten, not “Tiergaten.”
I also wonder if Obama was told that he will be giving his speech at one of the largest gay symbols in Berlin. I’m sure some conservatives would love to latch on to that.
Posted by: Bemused_Spectator | July 24, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Too bad an IQ and history test is not a requirement for the right to vote. I think a lot of the lib/socialists would be immediately excluded from the process.
I also think a huge problem with our system is it is influenced by recent immigrants that have no clue what real democracy is which is not an automatic right to free housing, food, medical care, as well as the right to complain when you don’t get one of the above.
Accountability and responsibility for ones own actions should be the nations watchwords!!
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
According to the latest estimates from the Guardian and Canadian sources, the crapshoot is loaded. The audience could range from the hundred thousands to possibly a million. Wow! Goes to show you how much the world anticipates a change from the last eight years.
Posted by: kat | July 24, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
When Europeans like us, they do business with us, and our dollar is stronger and our economy is stronger.
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Remember that old commercial advertising some pain pill? “I’m not really a doctor, I just play one on tv.”
Well, let’s update that for Obama. “I’m not really the president, I just play one on tv.”
Take this guy on vacation. He is way “over-exposed”.
p.s., Allen: I love the Ted Baxter reference. In addition to hating his swagger, now I’ll get to listen to that weird cadence of speech he has and be reminded of one of my favorite tv boobs – Ted Baxter.
Posted by: bromfield22 | July 24, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
“Obama was not elected in the primaries. He failed to win the required majority of delegates. He did not win the popular vote total.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 24, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
nando-
Don’t split hairs. The most important, constitutionally sanctioned job for the POTUS is as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. Everything else is icing on the cake.
But I am sure giving speeches on foreign soil “qualifies” him with that experience.
Posted by: CPT Obvious | July 24, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
To the poster who said non-Obama supporters are “in knots” over the possible election of their candidate, I say, personally, I am not. I am, however, extremely disappointed, saddened and worried about this country’s future if that happens.
I also wonder why you guys cannot come up with any original or fresh when knocking Sen. McCain. His age? My goodness, that’s low. And using the tired phrase, “McSame.” If you want to post and comment on his policies, I would respect that, by how very churlish and childish to attack the man over his age. I cannot imagine most of you have much on an education. Oh, and since you are being ageist, perhaps you would not take offense if I started in on your candidate’s race. Didn’t think so.
Posted by: Lisa Again | July 24, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Dan-
I tried using dollars at the frst restaurant I went to. You are right, it isn’t a problem to use dollars in Mexico and by it being my first trip to Europe, I was expecting the same. I had to end up going to a bank and exchange my dollars for Euros. It was also helpful that their ATM’s offered that option as well. While I was over there I also visited Czechoslovakia. This country would not even accept the dollar even though it took about 26 of their Koruna to equal one dollar. They refused it for the same reason and that is the dollars decline. However, they would take the Euro. The way we’re going Mexico may start refusing the dollar.
Posted by: jay | July 24, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
“I also wonder if Obama was told that he will be giving his speech at one of the largest gay symbols in Berlin.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 24, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Did I miss it or do we still have an election to vote for President????????? It seems to me that the arrogant, egotistical and inexperienced BO is acting like he has already won! Give me a break! He not only hasn’t won but the polls taken after he started his victory tour in Europe have McCain and Obama exactly the same 47 to 41 as it was in May and June??? Why??????????????????????? Maybe Because we have had a belly of the media telling us who to vote for and are reading between the lines on BO and we don’t like what we see!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Politicgirl | July 24, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Number of Days That John McCain Has Been Kicking Himself For Goading Obama Into Making His Overseas Trip: 5
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
How does a person with no substance give a “substantive” speech?
Posted by: McMurry | July 24, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Dem & Reps suck. We need a new system. Its controlled by lobbyists. Regardless…vote for the lesser of two evils…McCain.
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
DJ – can you back up your silly taunts with facts or am I just supposed to take your word for it. Meanwhile, here in the real world, “Bubble” or not, the Clinton economy was still a heckuva lot stronger than the Bush economy – which was also based on a bubble. A housing bubble, in case you missed it. Slice it and dice it any way you like, but Clinton still presided over the second largest peacetime expansion of the US economy in history. While Bush has Presided over the largest increase in income inequality and the largest slide of Americans below the poverty line since the 1930s.
As for the rest of your rant, are you seriously unaware that Bush’s war debt – borrowing money from China and other international lenders to pay the$10 million/day tab for the Iraq war – has tanked the value of the dollar on the international market? Do you really not understand how that precipitated the margin calls for US lending institutions that precipiatated the credit crisis?
Get a clue, dude.
Posted by: malinche | July 24, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
McMurray – I dunno, ask McCain and Bush.
Posted by: malinche | July 24, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Politicgirl – well it seems to me that you’re just jealous that Obama’s campaign isn’t as tired, lame and boring as old man McCain’s. lol
Posted by: tim glynn | July 24, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
“It seems to me that the arrogant, egotistical and inexperienced BO is acting like he has already won!”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 24, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
obama will be president and that is just the way it will be
Posted by: tom | July 24, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Jay – The Czech Republic (formerly knows as Czechoslovakia is not part of the IMF or EU (as well as many other of the newer or failing Eastern European countries). They do love the Euro though because they use it to exchange with all the EU residents who come there from Germany, France etc to escape that wonderful socialized health care system that you have to wait months for to get a tooth pulled (Germans dont even prescribe Anti-biotics except in extreme cases, how many knew that?). They actuall pay cash for healthcare there because it is cheaper than their equiv of our version of the co-pay they have to pay.
Yes, I lived in Heidelberg and Frankfurt Germany for 12 years before returning to the states in 05 after my 14 months in Iraq. And yes Mr. Obama I speak three languages so no need to be ashamed of me.
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Lisa Again…Let me answer you the best I can. First your take on Obama supports using words of old etc. are selective posts and remarks YOU make. There are hundreds of us who are trying our best to show the differences in these two candidates and when we do we are attacked as “star gazers” or stupid liberals akin to socialists or even today Marxists. They will happen on both sides, but let me direct your attention to my post earlier when I stated that Senator Obama has remarked with respect about Senator McCains service and Senate service. Yesterday Senator McCain said Obama would rather lose the war than the campaign – which is just the same as saying he’d rather see young men and women die in vain rather than lose the White House. Offensive – that’s not the word I’d truly like to use. Obviously Senator McCain did not listen to Senator Obama respond to Terry Moran when asked if he won’t to win in Iraq – a response that not only included yes, but included why it was important (with emphasis as being one front) on the global war on terror. That understanding is seen in the Middle East and indeed in Europe where the global war on terror is not single-minded and focuses on Iraq singularly as the neo-cons have made it (of course absent the token less troops in Afganistan that NY city policement). I see what you are saying – but those of us who fervently believe that John McCain is Bush in a different suit (since he voted the Bush agenda 90% of the time) and promises to continue domestic issues of the conservative line (appoint Judges to overturn Roe v Wade, maintain Bush’s tax favors to the wealthy, not get rid of the tax loop holes for foreign offshore operations etc. etc.) we do tend to be a bit touchy – but NOTHING compared to the lothsome negative Karl Rove surrogate campaign being developed under McCain. If you’re upset – I suggest you look into the other side for vile contemptable remarks and action.
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | July 24, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
jay – you went to Czechoslovakia? Were you travelling with John McCain?
Posted by: salonicus | July 24, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Biblical Allusions to the Candidates:
Some people liken Obama to the Messiah.
Some people liken McCain to Methuselah.
McCane in 2000!
Posted by: John | July 24, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
The more I watch him, the more I see something deeply insecure and nervous about Sen. Barack Obama. Sort of the way a guy acts when he realizes that he snuck into a room, should not be there, and realizes that it is only a matter of time before he is found out. I am sorry, but experience DOES matter. This election is about the next President of the United States, NOT the next High School Class President. This lifelong Democrat is voting for Sen. John McCain in November, and excited and proud of that fact. I vote substance over style. It helps me sleep better at night.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | July 24, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
STOP ABUSING THE 25th AMENDMENT NOW!
Appointed vice-presidents are illegal and need to stop now! The 25th amendment allows for appointment of a new vice-president when the spot is vacant. The spot is NEVER vacant after a presidential election because the runner-up candidate is officially the VP elect, at that point. Running mates are a scam, and abuse the right given to the executive through the 25th amendment.
Stop the executive monopoly that the Dems and Reps put on the executive office. Bring back electable VP’s NOW!!!
Posted by: Billdo Clownton | July 24, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Doesn’t it worry liberals that polls show McCain and Obama even, but you’d think Obama was already president because of our wonderful media? Do you really want a rockstar in charge of your country versus an experienced professional?
Posted by: Alex | July 24, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
How old is the air you breathe?
How old is the water you drink?
How old is the earth in a peach?
Even a newborn baby is very old.
Why won’t Obama debate McCain?
Posted by: Stephen Friedland | July 24, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Dan – Czech Republic has socialized healthcare, too. I lived there for six years in Prague 6 and paid Czech taxes, some of which went into the Czech healthcare kitty. And I have to say it was absolutely worth it – I gave birth to my son there and the healthcare was better than anything I ever recieved in this country. Of course, the Czechs also have private hospitals for those who can afford it – much like Western Europe – and these tend to attract cheapskates from Germany, Austira etc, who are looking for medical bargains that they can’t find with the private healthcare in their own countries.
Posted by: dianne grossman | July 24, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
To be a great president, as opposed to a caretaker or worse, one must be a true leader, possessing the ability to inspire and motivate.
Whatever else one may think of him, Obama has these qualities in spades. McCain does not and never will.
Watch Obama hit the ball out of the park and into the next town today.
But, rather than taking the opportunity to post another rant about how Obama is the Muslim sleeper Black Panther candidate brought to us by Osama bin Laden and Satan, why not instead (1) appreciate the man’s skills, and (2) give some thought to posting intelligent comments criticizing specific positions on issues.
?You know, many of us Obamites do not agree with a number of his positions, For example, some of us would support drilling provided it was part of a bona fide long term energy independence plan, and if it was allowed only to the extent all the economic benefits went to us as opposed to selling it on the world market and getting our people chump change in savings despite our bearing all the costs and risks i.e. not a pander.
There are a lot of conservative Obama voters who are voting that way because they are white-hot mad over the gross incompetence (or worse) of the morons in the White House in how the war on terror is being fought, ignoring the immigration issue because they want cheap labor pools for their rich friends, wild deficit spending, etc etc.
Why not focus the debate on real issues to support clear thinking and good decisions on specific issues regardless of who wins this election?
Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | July 24, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Stephen Friedland – Obama will debate McCain when he’s good and ready. Why should he give the old fool free publicity?
Posted by: big dan | July 24, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
I can see the history books 30 years from now. How did America become a Socialist state? Because the majority voted for the guy that looked cool, could dance, had a 300 person PR team funded by some of the richest power hungry people in the country, preached hope for change to things that were not broken. While the other candidate was old, boring, and has only been in a job he was consistently reelected to do for over 25 years. Nice to see how the MTV generation has come to age!
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
I’ll take the rock star president, please. Thank you.
Posted by: Hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
obama is not a socialist—but that siad thsi nation could use some socialism added to its corrput capitalist society… we need to car emore about thsoe with less and big business needs to pay better or we will crumble
Posted by: tom | July 24, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
My biggest issue is the economy. Second to that is the war mostly because I am married to an infantry soldier who has made two trips to Iraq already. Politicians can say what they want about the war but through the first hand account of my husband and his friends, I am convinced that the war in Iraq is useless. I like the fact that Barack plans to make the wealthy pay more taxes. Right now a lot of wealthy people pay less in taxes than their secrataries do. It astounds me how much I pay in taxes on a monthly basis. Yet I still have to itemize in order to break even at the end of the year. We need a president who is going to mend the broken relationships with other countries. For all of you who have not set foot outside of the USA lately, America is not viewed as the powerhouse it once was. This country is in deep trouble and I just don’t believe that another 4 years of “Bush-like” policies will do anything more than drag this great country that I love so much further down.
Posted by: jay | July 24, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Stephen Friedland – Remember Bama did offer to debate in the town hall forum with McCain, he offered once on July 4th at 9:00 PM (Libs – thats the time patriotic people who actually love their country watch fireworks). This is no joke he really had the nerve for this.
Bama runs hard and fast anytime he is not allowed to use the teleprompter on live TV without David Axlerods lips stuck to his ear.
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Billdo Clownton – yeah, that’s a real pressing issue facing the nation. Good luck with that…
Posted by: jimbrowski | July 24, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Friedland: “Why won’t Obama debate McCain?” you ask. First – after the conventions. Second – they are appearing before the conventions at joint spots (speaking before or after one another) but not in the debate format which is proper. Lastly – why after the conventions? Simple – and you should do some quick Rep and Dem google work – the must run on the party platform which is released at the convention and of course supported by the candidate and their VP selections. You want Obama to debate McCain now? I wouldn’t, your candidate is not even aware of the some of the party plank conditions. But since McCain pushed and pushed for Obama to do the tour, I think pushing and pushing might actually work for Obama on this too – so push some more since you seem determined to lose.
Posted by: Stephen Friedland
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | July 24, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
I’m confused on this debate challenge. Aren’t the presidential debates between the two nominees? These guys aren’t nominated yet. I would expect that of course there will be debates, doesn’t everybody?
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Dan – you call the ill-informed misinformation you’ve been posting “facts”? Calling Obama a “socialist” and ranting about socialized medicine aren’t facts, Dan. They’re opinions – and pretty stupid ones at that. Nice try, dude.
Posted by: Malinche | July 24, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Obama’s foreign policy – sit down, talk and eat carrots with foreign leaders. He says that this will work unlike the bush’s foreign policy. However, this is what the europeans have been doing, so either obama thinks the europeans are just incompetent or he doesn’t read the papers or listen to the news..
Posted by: Jack | July 24, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
How ironic….the venue for the speech….Tiergarten, German for “The Zoo”…….
Posted by: CaseyC | July 24, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Dan-
I went to Europe because of a business trip. While I was over there I traveled a lot. I only went to Czechoslovakia because I enjoy traveling to different countries to experience what other countries are like.
Posted by: jay | July 24, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Billdo Clownton wrote:
I’ll take the rock star president, please. Thank you.
*****************************
That’s exactly the kind of thinking that got George W. Bush elected over a “wooden” Al Gore and an “academic” John Kerry.
Frankly, Obama’s just George W. Bush redux, only this time with darker skin. Just insert “Axelrod” for “Rove,” and you can do the whole last eight years over again!
This time around, why don’t you vote for substance over style and vote for McCain?
Posted by: GM | July 24, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Hey Dan, I’m really sorry, which facts would you like?
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
As usual here I am with the facts jack – Obama’s socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the “champions” of “Chicago’s democratic left” and a long-time socialist activist. Obama’s stint as a “community organizer” in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored.
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
All of this Obama coverage is getting on our nerves. Enough of him and his hate filled racist wife. We r plain tired of the Obamas in spite of the media love fest with them. They are not qualified to be in our White House.
Posted by: JIMBO | July 24, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Hey Dan, I’m really sorry, which facts would you like?
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Dan – please get facts right when trying to attack….Obama does not have a 300 person PR team. He has a 300 person foreign relations advisory group – something refreshing since 300 people will surely be able to present different views, opinions, research, thoughts and guidance….unlike the neo-con agenda set in place before the election of 2000 that led to a war of choice. But a 300 person PR team wouldn’t be a bad idea and I think there are enough people in PR here in New York City that might like the chance….I’ll propose it at one of our next Obama 08 meetings. Thanks!
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | July 24, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Dan – please get facts right when trying to attack….Obama does not have a 300 person PR team. He has a 300 person foreign relations advisory group – something refreshing since 300 people will surely be able to present different views, opinions, research, thoughts and guidance….unlike the neo-con agenda set in place before the election of 2000 that led to a war of choice. But a 300 person PR team wouldn’t be a bad idea and I think there are enough people in PR here in New York City that might like the chance….I’ll propose it at one of our next Obama 08 meetings. Thanks!
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | July 24, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Sorry, but Obama and wife are qualified to be in the White House. Look it up.
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
JIMBO – sorry Jimbo, turn on Rush and get a fix. Now you know what it was like to have Swift Boat Ads run on television during prime time denegrating Kerry or mud slinging Karl Rove ads against Max Clellan a multiple purple heart award serviceman. But you see there IS A DIFFERENCE….all that crap was negative and ugly and we have a young man from Illinois representing some of the best of this nation – while some of the best serve daily in a war of choice. Sorry – upset, turn on Rush and get a fix (perhaps literally if you can).
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | July 24, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
JIMBO – sorry Jimbo, turn on Rush and get a fix. Now you know what it was like to have Swift Boat Ads run on television during prime time denegrating Kerry or mud slinging Karl Rove ads against Max Clellan a multiple purple heart award serviceman. But you see there IS A DIFFERENCE….all that crap was negative and ugly and we have a young man from Illinois representing some of the best of this nation – while some of the best serve daily in a war of choice. Sorry – upset, turn on Rush and get a fix (perhaps literally if you can).
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | July 24, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Hey -
Did you Republicans hear about this?
A massive oil spill in the Mississippi forced McClown to cancell his appearance in the Gulf Coast of Lousiana yesterday, where he was scheduled to speak on an OIL RIG and whine about how need more OFFSHORE DRILLING and how SAFE and ENVIORNMENTALLY FRIENDLY it was.
Posted by: kevin | July 24, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Lets vote for REAL change. Cynthia McKinney for president. She is far better that Bama or Cain.
Posted by: Hiram | July 24, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Hey Scoob I can see the history books now- How on earth did America twice elect an unintelligent, mindless ape who threw the country into an illegal war and devalued the currency to the point where it wasn’t accepted in Europe?
Tell me about the illegal war that congress approved and the UN has sanctioned? The Al Q that was not in Iraq (maybe you would rather we fight them in Atlanta Ga.?) or your world travels were you could not spend your $$ milk money (an earlier post I promptly debunked to shame).
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Lets vote for REAL change. Cynthia McKinney for president. She is far better that Bama or Cain.
Posted by: Hiram | July 24, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
I think the three-pointer at the military base is qualification all by itself. Did you see that thing? Sweet!
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Dan, thanks for proving my point for me. Saves me a lot of typing.
Posted by: hey Scoob | July 24, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Hey Malinche ..
In case you missed it, the Bush administration HAS been talking with Iraqi diplomats for several years now. Bush is at least wise enough to know that a president doesn’t sit down knee-to-knee with a malevolent dictator and sing “Kum-ba-yah!” We handled the N Korean situation in the same manner: via diplomats. Not direct talks with our President which does nothing but legitimize the tyrant!
Obama isn’t smart enough to figure this out! Instead, he says that Iran “is a tiny Country” which doesn’t threaten us. Incompetence at its finest.
Posted by: Ken | July 24, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Obama donors have a vested interest in hope and change! The hope that we don’t get another person like the one who has set are country back to 1929. After all, it was a Democrat that saves us then and a Republican administration who took us there. Furthermore, it seems that whenever a Republican administration takes office the Stock Market Crashes and the economy goes down the toilet.
Posted by: Sue | July 24, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Billdo Clownton – yeah, that’s a real pressing issue facing the nation. Good luck with that…
Posted by: jimbrowski | Jul 24, 2008 12:34:29 PM
It’s unfortunate that you put gas prices and welfare over liberty. George Washington and John Adams would be proud.
Posted by: Billdo Clownton | July 24, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
jay, wrote,
“My biggest issue is the economy. Second to that is the war mostly because I am married to an infantry soldier who has made two trips to Iraq already. Politicians can say what they want about the war but through the first hand account of my husband and his friends, I am convinced that the war in Iraq is useless. I like the fact that Barack plans to make the wealthy pay more taxes. Right now a lot of wealthy people pay less in taxes than their secrataries do. It astounds me how much I pay in taxes on a monthly basis. Yet I still have to itemize in order to break even at the end of the year. We need a president who is going to mend the broken relationships with other countries. For all of you who have not set foot outside of the USA lately, America is not viewed as the powerhouse it once was. This country is in deep trouble and I just don’t believe that another 4 years of “Bush-like” policies will do anything more than drag this great country that I love so much further down.”
Jay,
What the Obama camp is telling the public is absolutely wrong. Those who are earning above $100,000 – $125,000(not sure about this range are not getting low taxes. They’re not even qualified for Stimulus package. Obama is stupid in economy, I’m telling you. He’s just saying these stupid thing just to pander votes.
Posted by: neil1785 | July 24, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
The Indonesian language is known as “Bahasa Indonesia”, not “Bahasi Indonesian”.
Posted by: Ben Zimmer | July 24, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
“Lets vote for REAL change. Cynthia McKinney for president. She is far better that Bama or Cain.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 24, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Dan – there you go again, confusing your opinions with facts. You really are a legend in your own mind, aren’t you? Too funny…
Posted by: malinche | July 24, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
The “oil spill” was fuel from a tow boat pushing a barge of “Electrical generating equipment, Wind Power generators and related equipment” along the river.
The tow boat driver ran into a double hull oil tanker and split the tow boat in two. His fuel tanks leaked not the oil from the tanker.
Get it right dip
Posted by: spammer | July 24, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Funny they should caption Obama’s speech “A crapshoot”.
So which side of his mouth is he going to roll the dice from this time?
When he and his propaganda team (New York media) get done with their junket, are they going to start addressing anything of substance, or is it just going to be more idol worship all the way through November?
Posted by: ragnar30066 | July 24, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
malinche,
I couldn’t agree more. During the primaries, he came up of a set of economic policies from source like JFK’s, Reagan’s and Bush Sr.’s, skipping Clinton’s when the best economic times were those of Clinton’s. Hillary is a policy wizard. She’s the more deserving candidate.
Posted by: neil1785 | July 24, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
“My German is not real good,” he said.
Looks like his English isn’t that good, either.
Posted by: Greg Goetz | July 24, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Can’t we just vote now and get it over with?
McCain said this. Obama said that.
What we need is legislation to shorten presidential campaigns to 12 months or less.
Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | July 24, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
I have to laugh at the McSame lovers that swallow the talking point that Obama is running for Carters second term!
Which of the talk radio idiots came up with that lame slogan?
You have to admire the rightwingers ability to blind themselves to reality, or do you?
Posted by: Mark | July 24, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
neil1785-
The figure is $250,000. I fall into the category you mentioned earlier and I pay my fair share of taxes. What I have a major problem with is how people who make way more than me are allowed to pay way less than me.
Posted by: jay | July 24, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Um, Ken? How do you think the oil gets from the drilling platforms to the refineries? By magic carpet? Here’s a hint: most of it doesn’t go by pipeline.
Duh.
Meanwhile, mischaracterizing and lying about Obama’s energy plan doesn’t detract from the fact that McSame has NO energy plan except to let the energy companies continue to write our national energy policy while reaping windfall profits.
Nice try, doofus.
Posted by: kevin | July 24, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
With all of the rabid adoration shown by everyone showing up at his speeches, would these same people vote for him if he was running for THEIR leader instead of America’s President?
Posted by: Greg Goetz | July 24, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Your right but it was a Liberian tanker it struck. Still doe not change the rebuttle much though. If it was drilled and piped as it should be (like Alask) it would have less chance finding itself in the water. Besides you going to blame the oil spill on GWB or McCain too? Is Bama going to liberate our energy requirements when he bring us world peace too?
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Danke, Belle
Posted by: flyover | July 24, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Obama said he was shocked in an earlier statement about how many people were going to be at his rally in Berlin. I could not believe it when I heard that. For months his staff has wanted the speech using the Brandenburg Gate as a back drop setting for his speech. There are posters all over Berlin advertising his speech and now Obama and his Staff are playing down the importance of the speech, stating that it is not political? Strange I thought, not political, then why is he giving the speech if he is just on a fact finding trip a trip I was told to listen to others and gather information. Sounds like old bait and switch to me with a new twist. Well Mr. Obama you are not my president and I do not have Media blinders on my eyes, your arrogance is obvious no matter how much you try to convince us that you are truly humble and the peddler of change.
Posted by: chuck hasker | July 24, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
spammer – that’s 100% BS.
Here’s what actually happened from the AP:
A tugboat without a properly licensed pilot was pushing a barge that collided with a tanker, resulting in an oil spill that closed a stretch of the Mississippi River at New Orleans, the Coast Guard said. The person operating the boat had an apprentice mate’s license, said Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesau of the Coast Guard. Officials said it could take several days before a stretch of the river could be reopened after the collision, which broke the barge in half, officials said. No one was injured, but heavy, almost tarlike fuel oil spilled from the barge, forming a slick 12 miles long, Commander Ben-Iesau said. About 47 miles of the river was closed. The barge held more than 419,000 gallons of oil in three tanks. Investigators do not know whether all three tanks broke but “are assuming the worst-case discharge of all 9,980 barrels,” said Capt. Lincoln Stroh, Coast Guard captain of the Port of New Orleans.
Posted by: kevin | July 24, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
And Kevin why would you be so gleeful over an oil or fuel spill?
Posted by: spammer | July 24, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Obama skipped visiting the military in Germany…should tell you something about him: wimp!
Posted by: plainsm | July 24, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Wasn’t deregulation the slogan of the conservatives and the republican party? Look what it has done to the banking system, housing market, and the economy in general. When are you going to take responsiblity for your actions?
Posted by: tom | July 24, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
this adulation to a candidate who has accomplished nothing and flips on all his positions is mind-blowing.
Are democrats so hungry for victory that they would turn over control of their country to a neophyte that no one is exactly sure he is all about?
wake up America.
Posted by: const | July 24, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Dan – why do you have such unrealistic expectations of Obama? Very strange.
Meanwhile, you’re missing the obvious point – McCain was forced to cancel a photo op in front of an oil rig where he was going to make another silly plea for offshore drilling. This latest accident only underscores the very real enviornmental dangers of offshore drilling and makes a mockery of McCain’s BS that it’s all perfectly safe.
McCain got very lucky that nobody is paying much attention to his campaign anymore, otherwise this would have been a major, major embarassment.
But keep on spinnin’ dude – it’s hillarious to watch.
Posted by: kevin | July 24, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
spammer – It was not electrical generating equipment being carried or wind turbines it was a 61 foot fuel barge.
Posted by: Dan | July 24, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
“My German is not real good,” he said. “I can speak Bahasi Indonesian but I don’t think…there would be a lot of appeal to that.”
I thought Senator Obama just said that he did not speak a foreigh language.. I guess he forgot that he spoke Bahasi Indonesian
Posted by: we_count | July 24, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Deregulation was the slogan of the conservatives and the republican party. Now it has destroyed the economy.
Posted by: tom | July 24, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Questions for Obama?
Why do you have time to give a speech to German’s, but can fit it in your schedule to accept an open invitation from the families in Ft. Hood to do a town hall debate with McCain?
I am an undecided voter – and I would like to see McCain and Obama answer unscripted questions from “real people”. It is beginning to appear that Obama is afraid to do this.
Posted by: Annie | July 24, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Deregulation was the slogan of the conservatives and the republican party. Now it has destroyed the economy.
Posted by: tom | July 24, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Obama is hoping to look “Kennedy like”, period. That was why the push for the Bradenburg Gate, and for settling on Victory Column, a symbol of German military domination. The sight was chosen by the Obama campaign because Bradenburg Gate is a backdrop. “It was the best we could do to get as close to the setting where Kennedy delivered his famous “Isch bin ein Berliner” speech.” said an informed source wishing anonymity.
Even though Merkel is with Obama in the “photo-op”, it was her concern about the appropriateness of the Brandenburg venue that sparked the changed. The German Chancellor “expressed doubts about an Obama appearance, reminding everyone that this was principally a political, not a diplomatic, visit by a man who is not yet president. “Newsweek, July 18, 2008
Unprecedented is Obama’s handling of the media and information output. NBC’s Andrea Mitchell was the one journalist with the courage to name what she was actually seeing happen: Obama faking even being interviewed by the press.
Posted by: anotherview | July 24, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Kevin:
Of course I know how oil gets to your gas station from off-shore. But then, I am not the one gloating over an oil spill!
Last I checked, most cars on the roads run on a substance DERIVED from oil. Unless if the Socialists like Pelosi and Obamamessiah plan on Universal Solar-Cars for the peeps, the reality is that we NEED that oil, and it would be wise to get it from our own sources as much as possible until and if we can find a better alternative, which at best is about 20 years away!
Posted by: Ken | July 24, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
If I were to suggest two places for anyone to go on a short visit to Belin.
The first: Checkpoint Charlie and the museum. Doesn’t take long and capsulizes people’s desire to be free
The second: Potsdam and the meeting place of Truman, Churchill and Stalin plus the old KGB headquarters. Right out of a Charles Addams cartoon
Posted by: jamesco | July 24, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Kevin, did you drive your car today? Did you use somthing besides gas to drive your car today? Have you noticed and hydrogen stations lately?
Posted by: billy bob | July 24, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
So what language is Obama speaking in Berlin? He better be delivering his entire speech in German after that nonsense about Americans need to learn other languages.
Posted by: Billdo Clownton | July 24, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Wow—–His people believe he is going to bring in 500,000 people— all I can say is wow———–
Posted by: Jesse James | July 24, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
“Obama noted that in a break from his whirlwind schedule, “we’ve got some down time tonight. What are you guys gonna do in Berlin? Huh? Huh? You guys got any big. plans? …I’ve never been to Berlin, so…I would love to tour around a little bit.”
Sure, he didn’t have time to make his scheduled visit to the German military bases; but touring around? Of course that stays in the schedule.
Good to know. Speeches for Germany and France (his next 5-hour stop in Paris), touring around… all more important than speaking at a military base.
And hey, fliers for his speech, paid for by his campaign, so he can “look presidential” doesn’t mean it’s a political rally.
But it does look, swim, and quack; so pardon me for thinking it might be a duck.
Well, off to his next political rally in France. How many Electoral College votes does Europe get again?
Posted by: Gekkobear | July 24, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Obama was not elected the Democratic Nominee in the primaries because he didn’t get the popular vote? If that was all that mattered, Gore would be President today, wouldn’t he, since he won the popular vote in 2000!!! We wouldn’t be in this War, that’s for sure. Our economy wouldn’t be tanking, either. You want to accuse Obama of “stealing the nomination”, Bush stole the Presidency from Al Gore with the help of his brother, Jeb, Governor of Florida, Katherine Harris, Secretary of State in Florida, and the good ole Supreme Court loaded with conservative judges (who, by the way, still haven’t overturned Roe v. Wade even though they hold a majority on the Court! What’s up with that??) Sorry, folks, but Obama is the Man, this time around. He’s smart, charismatic, intuitive, eloquent, cool, calm and collected, as the saying goes; and he is going to make McCain look awful bad during the debates. Gotta feel sorry for McCain, standing next to Obama (a constitutional law professor), trying to rebut his points, and stammering over himself, getting all red-faced (well, at least that may put some color in his cheeks, poor guy) and losing his temper.
Posted by: geecee | July 24, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
billy bob – where did you get that I was “hellbent on using alternative fuels”?
All I said was that McCain’s promotion of offshore drilling isn’t much of a solution to our energy problems.
I never said I was anti-gasoline.
You seem to be a bit hysterical. Maybe you should stop overreacting to what people don’t say and pay attention to what the do say.
Posted by: kevin | July 24, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Obama wants to be spelled JFK. The dieing Teddy is still running the campaign (I hope and not something more sinister.) This Berlin Speech is a real slap in the face of JFK.
His speech really smacks of JFK. The lack of cheers are pretty few.
Posted by: john smith | July 24, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Janet – wrong. McCain cancelled the event before the storm was upgraded to a hurricane. He cancelled because of the oil spill. His campaign team already admitted as much, then tried to backtrack and claim the hurricane as cover. Nice try.
Posted by: kevin | July 24, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
“Frank-South Hampton, putting your money in Obama’s campaign and vitory will garanty you and others to be able to put gaz in your tank,
Posted by: BKMC”
Wow, I thought gas was made from Oil, you know, the stuff he doesn’t want to drill for anywhere in the US, or allow to be produced from Oil Shale…
I guess Obama has a new source of gas that will correct the price issues of low supply and high demand.
Can you tell us his magical process for crafting gas from hope and dreams?
Or is this “gaz” something else entirely. Possibly made from broken promises, lies, taxes, and ego?
Posted by: Gekkobear | July 24, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
“NBC’s Andrea Mitchell was the one journalist with the courage to name what she was actually seeing happen: Obama faking even being interviewed by the press.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 24, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
“O Force One”…I’m rolling., too good.
The Hopey Changely Traveling Show has to be reminded that in the 2004 election the people of the “world” supported Kerry for president…and we all know how that turned out.
Posted by: strike a pose | July 24, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
I LOVE OBAMA!!!!!!!!! HE IS GOING TO WIN AND IM GONNA LAUGH AT ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Lindsay | July 24, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
People who donate to Obama’s campaign expect that he will do with the money whatever it takes to get him elected. That is the point of donating to his campaign. If he chooses to use the money to go to Germany or anywhere else, that’s entirely up to him and his campaign staff. I don’t think anyone is starving because they donated to his campaign. If anyone is unhappy with his choice, then I suggest they not donate anymore. Case closed??
Posted by: geecee | July 24, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Just Me – Wrong. Obama is not a Marxist, no matter how many times you repeat this BS it’s still untrue. Go look up what Marxism actually is and get back to us.
Posted by: Sarah Talks Sense | July 24, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Kevin, your argument was that drilling and transporting of oil was not safe, so i say if you believe that then dont be a party to it. Drilling and using ALL of our resources are the solution to the oil dependency problem that is being overblown by the liberal media. I get tired of hearing how bad oil is when these are the same people that have depended on it for their entire life and are still using it every day.
Posted by: billy bob | July 24, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Obama is not even the nominee of his party yet – the media had to pull a fast one counting superdelegates to convince us that he “clinched” the nomination – when in fact no candidate did.
All this “emperor of the world” with the media in tow is embarrassing. What I want to know – did he give ou nicknames yet and which do you like best – his, or Bush’s?
Posted by: Notyoursweetie | July 24, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
wrong again, billy bob, that wasn’t my argument at all.
In fact, I wasn’t really making an argument, simply an observation that John McCain avoided a huge embarassment yesterday.
But don’t let that stop you from putting words into my mouth and then overreacting to them.
Good luck with that strategy, I’m sure it will win you alot of support. LOL
Posted by: kevin | July 24, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
There’s something indescribably cheap about this privileged hothouse flower, coming straight from his mob-bought mansion, calling for “sustained sacrifice”.
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 24, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Childhood Reminiscences of the Candidates:
Obama played with Lincoln Logs as a child.
McCain was born in a log cabin.
McCain…the Presidential Candidate Unwilling to Buy Foreign Green Bananas!
Posted by: John | July 24, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
“All this “emperor of the world” with the media in tow is embarrassing.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | July 24, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Ummmm Good Evening Berlin. Ummmmm, Ummmmm. That will be what Obama will be saying in Berlin. This guy can’t speak unless someone writes for him and even with that he still can’t speak like a president. Why would people vote for someone that needs help breaking into every policy. 300 foreign advisors?? Why take a such a risky chance on Obama?
Posted by: NoToObama | July 24, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
“Let’s tamp down expectations here,” Obama said. “If we get a few tens of thousands…”
“”"”blink, blink”"”"”
so is that like 40K, 60k, 70k…and what will draw them? the ROCK BANDS playing there as fronts for him or his fluff…in addition to the fliers announcing the second coming, will his camp also distribute translated versions of his fluff…
Posted by: strike a pose | July 24, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
“When Europeans like us, they do business with us, and our dollar is stronger and our economy is stronger.”
The last time we had this problem, Reagan let the dollar fall and it righted the situation regards imports. Sometimes negative answers are the right answers. Reagan was a poser but that one he got right.
If you want to sell more in Europe, build good products and sell them at affordable prices. Isn’t that a better game than sucking up to customers by weakening your own security? Do business the old fashioned way: earn it. America needs to focus on staged products not stage productions.
This trip will provide a sugar high to Obama supporters but it will backfire in the election.
Posted by: len | July 24, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Obama On Tonight’s Berlin Speech: “A Crapshoot”
yep, that’s what the Democratic PRESUMPTIVE nominee is, a crapshoot: something that has an unpredictable outcome (webster’s). A gamble.
Posted by: strike a pose | July 24, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Obama’s Strange Priorities
I bet the media will overlook this little blurb. ++ Visit to US Military Bases Cancelled ++ 1:42 p.m.: SPIEGEL ONLINE has learned that Obama has cancelled a planned short visit to the Rammstein and Landstuhl US military bases in…
Posted by: Rhymes With Right | July 24, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
obama himself is the one who called the speech a crapshoot. the article says this.
he, himself, knows this type of activity in a foreign country is a gamble. it can have either a positive or negative impact with the American people…the people that will vote for or against him.
interesting…
Posted by: john d | July 24, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Brilliant speech, brilliant man. Obama just keeps adding to his credibility and stature. And the critics keep harping, while he builds momentum.
Posted by: Walter | July 24, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
There is no way in he&l that I am voting for Obama. And there are many like me… he’s not a sure thing liberals!
Posted by: Alex | July 24, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
John McCain outsources the task of chewing his food.
McCane in 2000. A Candidate for the Ages!
Posted by: John | July 24, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
what will you do after you finish laughing? probably serve me the fries i ordered.
Posted by: ketchup and mustard | July 24, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Fred, it isn’t “Republicans” doing that per se, but rather NEOCONS.
Posted by: Alex | July 24, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Seriously, thank you Jake for sharing a well balanced blog taking directly from Obama himself.
Obama is really proving to the world that he is indeed a class act through and through. And he’s a good example of what America represents.
This makes little man Napolian McCain look like a school kid.
Posted by: sumrzz | July 24, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Get rid of the Republican and Democrat garbage.
Check out the Libertarian website. We need to start a third party and give the American people the change they really want.
Libertarianism is the way.
The 2 parties we have now are the same person with 2 different puppets.
Posted by: john d | July 24, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
“Obama has 143 days in the senate. That’s his experience. That’s it (unless you want to count “community organizer”. This guy wants to lead the free world and yet he’s never led anything. No track record. Nothing to say that he has leadership qualities. Good speaker? So what. He couldn’t get beyond an entry level job – if he could get hired for a job at all. Core values are unclear. He can’t command the trust that the President job requires.”
Obama has no clue when it comes to the economy. Ben Stein was on Kimmel las year promoting his new book. Stein knows how to make a dollar or several million. Kimmel asked Stein if Obama should read his book. Stein said no, he should start with something more suited to his education level on the economy like simple addition and subtraction. Obama supporters believe he has it all worked out, and he carries on like he does. But it is just like his health care plan. He gave a speech in Raliegh yesterday, pulled Elizabeth Edwards up on stage and told the audience that he was going to contact her at sometime in the future and the two of them were going to sit down and figure this health care policy thing out. He has been running for President for a year and a half now he claims and he doesn’t even know what his health care plan is? Apparently he thinks if he says health care for everyone, that it wioll just happen. And what qualifies Elizabeth Edwards to develop this policy? Maybe she, or Caroline Kennedy, when she’s not writing a cookbook or picking vp candidates, can help him out with his economic policies too. All through the primaries, I kept asking Obama supporters exactly what his polciies are and none of them could tell me. The reason why is he doesn’t know himself.
Obama has the worst track record of all 3 candidates when it comes to getting back to the Senate to vote – he’s missed more votes than either McCain or Hillary. Kind of makes you think he only wanted that Senate seat as a stepping stone to the presidency.
Posted by: neil1785 | July 24, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
“And the critics keep harping, while he builds momentum”.
how TRUE. such momentum that when he and his lemmings reach the edge of the political precipice, there is no way but DOWN.
Posted by: strike a pose | July 24, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
The spectacle of the obuma rally is that a community leader/activist is a frontrunner for Our President’s seat.
It is an embarrassment to our country.
Who does this obuma really think he is……
to keep all his promises during the campaign—he will be raising taxes, and lowering our National security and promising Billions of aid to Africa and every other 3rd world counties….
it’s like voting in a boyscout leader as a General to our Armed Forces.
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | July 24, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
The Socialist Movement in America do not need someone with experience to lead them. They have Marx, Lennin, Trotsky, Castro, Putin, and Solana as their guides. They need a puppet. Someone who just wants to be in power. Clinton worked well. OBama will work better because he doesn’t have the baggage of graft, sex, and 500 murdered/suicided friends. This is about pushing the USA into a more compatible environment to be integrated into a World Government. 95% of the World is Socialist. For a World Socialist System to be implemented, the USA must become socialist.
Obama will drag the USA to that point.
The election will be Ford vs. Carter 2.0.
Obama will be Carter 2.0 A pawn in the hand of his handlers…
America deserves this. Fat lazy Americans. We are ignorant and stupid. 64% of Americans cannot name our V.P. More can point to Sri Lanka on a map.
We allow idiots to vote and thus shall we reap an Idiotic Result. All that really matters is that each gets what is coming to them.
Posted by: m e brooks | July 24, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Case and point:
Imagine you are in high school. (From the looks of things in here, it shouldn’t be hard for many of you)
Would you vote a Freshman into the Senior Class President position simply because a Senior wrote him a good speech?
Case and Point.
Posted by: ketchup and mustard | July 24, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Nice job.
Posted by: ketchup and mustard | July 24, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
CFB-Tell you what. You keep Bush and his 6 years experience as TX Governor. I’ll take, Obama’s 2 years in the Senate, (and Lincoln’s 2 years in the House).
Posted by: Biff | July 24, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
His speech came after 2 acts by famous German acts, so he could get the crowd.
I heard his speech and it seemed he was thanking the Conservatives for getting the wall taken down. Your Welcome Obama!!
His talk of sacrifice was for everybody to pay higher taxes so he could live the big life!!
Obama you are NO JFK and Definitly NO Reagan
Maybe Stalin or Carl Marx you resemble!!
Posted by: spock | July 24, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
So wait Max–how does the claim that this nation is in horrible economic condition make a 1.5 year US Senator qualified to be president? Riiiiight.
Posted by: RC ATL | July 24, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
This isn’t the first time a charismatic speaker with terrible ideas charmed a large crowd in Germany….
Posted by: 1936 | July 24, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Would Barack Obama have gone to Berlin to give the speech he gave today if he had not defeated Senator Hillary Clinton—-the answer is clearly no. Obama says he came as a citizen and not as a candidate for the Presidency yet he gives a “campaign speech”. His speech was nothing special, just big words and actually not well put. “I know that I don’t look like the Americans who’ve previously spoken in this great city” obviously referring to the “race issue”. “The journey that led me here is improbable”, is what he is saying unlikely and unbelievable because I am from America where they have racism there. Is he telling the people of Berlin and the world if I do not win the Election it is because there is racism in America? Is that the message that he is sending to the world, not that he is inexperienced, young, with an ego the size of Mount Olympics. “That is why America cannot turn inward. That is why Europe cannot turn inward. America has no better partner than Europe.” Well America has many Allies that have stood and fought with us for freedom, giving the nod to Europe as the best is offensive to the other countries that maybe aren’t as big as Europe, but gave sacrifices and stood by America. Very disappointed in what I see and hear from a candidate that has not been elected by the people, and for the people—meaning he shouldn’t be representing America’s interests to all of these people with first being Elected by America.
Posted by: Anne | July 24, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Looks like the one million “fans” that were expected forgot to come and hear Obama, even though the preliminaries featured 2 popular rock bands. Obama is a shadowy and hollow candidate who will say anything to get votes. McCain 08; Hillary 2012!!
Posted by: Mark | July 24, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
RC ATL: I just don’t understand how anybody who voted for John Kerry could consider it a pleasant possibility that Obama loses. There is no question that someone with Obama’s ideals and John Kerry’s experience would be a great president. But you have a simple choice between two options, and I can’t see that “simply measured experience” is the prevailing factor. The policies of these two candidates couldn’t be further apart. And McCain’s policies are an economic and foreign policy disaster (i.e. one that has proven itself disastrous over 8 years), while Obama’s policies promise a fresh approach to responsibility, government, and equality in this country.
What 4th amendment issue are you blaming him for, warrant-less wire taps? Guantanamo?
Posted by: Max M | July 24, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Because one Democrat is not interchangeable with another. Because there are such things as principles and keeping one’s promises. Because if there is no trust, then it does not matter what “fresh approach” Obama promises to bring. Because no Democrat could ever anticipate that Obama, of all people, would vote with the Republicans for FISA.
His supporters did not think he would throw them under the bus, but that’s because they weren’t paying attention.
I won’t be the only ex-Dem who voted for Kerry but has no compunction not voting for Obama.
Posted by: RC ATL | July 24, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
The fact is Obama is intelligent and has run a stellar campaign. He’s worked the system to his advantage and in ways no one has ever seen. He’s innovative and knows how to run his business.
McCain has no idea what a Sunni is, he doesn’t know which country’s border Iraq and yesterday talked about a Sunni sheik who was protected by the ‘surge’ and helped lead the Anbar Awakening that was actually assassinated by al-Qaeda in midst of the fighting.
I don’t want another ill informed, idiotic man in office again after that useless disaster Bush finally leaves office.
Posted by: Heather bhm | July 24, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
If he thinks Americans are so stupid and snobby because we don’t speak foreign languages then why didn’t he give his speech in GERMAN?
Posted by: Adolph | July 24, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
I cannot help but get emotional every time I read about, hear or see this guy.
Are we being fully aware that we are touching history?
A B-L-A-C-K man representing USA, and being idolatred by the way, at Germany?
Obama is such a fresh breath of air that gives me the chill. I never saw him altered in any way, or out of control, or answering unthoughtfully.
Of course this is shallow anecdotical, what is important is his policies, so I say, OMG, what a turn of events!
America, the mythical Phoenix of great beauty, to burn itself on an interminable funeral Bushian-pyre, and to rise from its ashes in the freshness of youth and live through another cycle of years, an emblem of immortality, of reborn idealism and hope!
Posted by: Viejo Vizcacha | July 24, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Why would Obama be campaigning in Europe? When was the last time that a European leader felt the need to win over a non-electorate in a presidential race?
And for all of you out there who think that Obama is so eloquent – have you not heard the Obama-isms? Bush is bad, for sure. Take Obama away from his teleprompter, and see what you’re left with. Ask for a specific answer to a specific question, and it’s even worse!
I’m no McCain fan, either, so I’m feeling rather disheartened by all of this. I just don’t care what the Germans think, when it comes to sovereignly electing our own leaders.
Posted by: Bucho | July 24, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Why would Obama be campaigning in Europe? When was the last time that a European leader felt the need to win over a non-electorate in a presidential race?
And for all of you out there who think that Obama is so eloquent – have you not heard the Obama-isms? Bush is bad, for sure. Take Obama away from his teleprompter, and see what you’re left with. Ask for a specific answer to a specific question, and it’s even worse!
I’m no McCain fan, either, so I’m feeling rather disheartened by all of this. I just don’t care what the Germans think, when it comes to sovereignly electing our own leaders.
Posted by: Bucho | July 24, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
There is only one honorable mission this year. Use your vote to defeat Barack Obama. Bring back the power of your vote. Real power of the people. Our country first. Our country before any political party.
Posted by: Mandelay3 | July 24, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
A BUNCH OF WINERS, THATS WHAT MOST OF YOU COME ACROSS AS….. MCCAIN HAS NO CHANCE TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY BECAUSE BUSH AND THE REPUBLICANS HAVE SCREWED IT UP SO MUCH….IT’S TIME TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY, TAKE BACK OUR CIVIL RIGHTS..
Posted by: AN AMERICAN | July 24, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
According to today’s gallup presidential poll, Obama’s lead over McCain has SHRANK to 45-43. If Obama is this great leader, then why isn’t he like double digits ahead in the polls?
Also, the last time I checked, the Germans and other Europeans do not have avote for our president. Since when did the US decide to elect a president because he was popular in Europe anyhow?
Posted by: James | July 24, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Iamforthiscountry wrote:
Also – the “worship” level of Obama support has gotten a little frightening. Now he’s going to lower the gas prices (how, exactly?), get all the unemployed people their jobs back (how, exactly?), and zing the economy back into full swing (how, exactly?). And, in the absence of telling us how exactly he’ll do this, we’re just supposed to melt trustingly into his baritone voice and the very idea of Barack Obama.
Um, can you tell me what McLame will do with these same questions? You all ask how will Obama do it but NEVER say what McCain will do better and how.
Posted by: Dippa | July 24, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
“Um, can you tell me what McLame will do with these same questions? You all ask how will Obama do it but NEVER say what McCain will do better and how.”
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To begin with, McCain probably tell the truth….. and it might not be so euphoreous or glamorous …… but it would definitely be more down to earth…and honest.
I LIKE that in my candidate and the knowledge that he has been re-elected many times…. is indicative of the trust others have placed. place in him now.
I have seen the non-effects of Obama the newbie on my home town….. and I am
suffering from the effects of another newbie… Todd Stroger.. on my home town which NOW BEAR THED QUESTIONABLE HONOR OF HAVING THE HIGHEST SALES TAX IN THE NATION!
Posted by: prophet | July 24, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
wow a crowd of 200,000
mccain hasn’t got that much people together in every event in both 2000 and 2008 campaigns and maybe even senate rallies combined. And this was in a foreign country to boot.
Just give up mccain save your wife’s money
Posted by: Omentum | July 24, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
hahahhahaha!!!!! Of course the world wants Obama. They know he would destroy America in his first day as president. That is what they want, they want America to be destroyed and they see Obama as the best puppet to accomplish this.
Posted by: The Who | July 24, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
He is so full of himself it is making nauseas.
Posted by: ILL | July 24, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Here we are Thursday evening. Barack Obama drew a massive estimated 200,000+ audience in Berlin!! The pictures were breathtaking.
Obama’s speech lived up to all expectations!! Yes, there will always be some debate on issue topics. This is natural. Obama did it!!!
This junior senator’s speech will be remembered!!
Posted by: Sharonklim | July 24, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
I am a white 76 year old with a master’s degree in history from Indiana University. Barack appeals to the higher educated & intellectual voters.The reason for his poll ratings is that he does not appeal to the poor who loathe the idea of an African American running their country. Instead, they will vote for a fraud who tries to impress upon us that he’s a war hero because he refused early release from prison – if he had accepted it, he’d have been court martialed & his family would be disgraced even more due to his arrogance & astounding ignorance while at the naval academy. He NEVER would have been admitted if his daddy hadn’t been an admiral.
Posted by: cjay | July 24, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
I make the following comments as someone who is well-educated, left wing (in fact, LEFT of left) & definitely, by any standard, not on the lower end of the income bracket. In fact, I am repulsed by Barack Obama. I will, however, give him credit for his masterful “persuasion” techniques & how well he has played the role of “confidence man.” Daily, there are incidents clearly indicating that B.O. has misrepresented himself to the public. Yet – if we are to believe all that we hear – people continue to fawn over B.O., forgive him for his daily position changes & 180-degree flip-flops, & believe what he says even though his remedial history suggests otherwise. I am perplexed as to how anyone could believe in & vote for someone who lacked substantive history & voted “present” 121 times. That, in itself, should “persuade” the “believers” that Obamacon is NOT the person he claims to be.
Posted by: Susan; Central California | July 25, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
Ich bin ein Beginner – NOBAMA NO WAY
Posted by: Johnny | July 25, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Well clearly McCain sucks. But just as clearly, Obama sucks so much MORE!
McCains’ sin is that too often he acts like a democrat. Obama’s sin is that he acts like an American, but he’s DEFINITELY a globalist who desires the destruction of America.
Posted by: Tony | July 25, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
“My German is not real good,” he said. “I can speak Bahasi Indonesian but I don’t think…there would be a lot of appeal to that.”
In his speech to LaRaza, he said he was embarassed that he did not learn any languages when he was growing up.
Which is it?
Posted by: Theresa Jones | July 25, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
I agree with Tony.
Posted by: Theresa Jones | July 25, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
m e brooks:
I agree with you. However, I also believe that this plan has been in the works for a long time. Americans are kept fat, dumb and happy by our Government beginning with our schools. Our Constitution guarantees a Republican form of government; yet our schools for a long time have been spreading the lie that we are a Democracy and majority rules. I was taught this and believed it until recently, when I read our Constitution. Even our President is spreading Democracy around the world. We need a President who will restore our Republic and our sovereignty.
Posted by: Theresa Jones | July 25, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
“This junior senator’s speech will be remembered!!”
Please. There was nothing memorable about that pathetic speech at all. Having heard it, I’d bet that you couldn’t remember a single line without going back and looking it up first.
And whoever coined “Ich bin ein Beginner” is brilliant. Pure genius.
Posted by: Midas | July 25, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
The spectacle of the obuma rally is that a community leader/activist is a frontrunner for Our President’s seat.
It is an embarrassment to our country.
Who does this obuma really think he is……
to keep all his promises during the campaign—he will be raising taxes, and lowering our National security and promising Billions of aid to Africa and every other 3rd world counties….
it’s like voting in a boyscout leader as a General to our Armed Forces.
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | Jul 24, 2008 2:42:28 PM
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Love your post…I find Obuma to be sly like a fox and as stupid as a rock!
Posted by: HP Boston | July 25, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
I find it interesting the total disdain the Obama supporters hold the backbone of America which is the blue collar types. Indeed, we have the post here from someone who holds a Master’s degree from Indiana calling those not as educated idiots and racists basically. In my experience, and I have two PhDs by the way, it is those who believe they are “intelligent” that are the most easily persuaded and the most easily swayed by those that tell them what they want to hear. These people so-called intelligent people are so arrogant and believe they are so correct on every issue that if someone comes along and regurgitates these “intelligent” positions like Obama has they are fawn all over him. Critical thought has been lost in the zealotry of those who follow Obama. Obama is telling these people what they want to hear and they are stumbling all over themselves to worship Obama without once stopping and asking critical questions of Obama.
I find it a fascinating study of how the self proclaimed intelligentsia of the US and even Europe so easily fall lockstep. A true intelligent person would ask very critical questions even of a candidate they support. However, this has not occurred with Obama. In fact, the opposite has occurred. Those that have dared to question Obama are summarily attacked by his supporters. Check history people. It is repleat with disaster and misery because people latched onto those that were charismatic without asking the hard questions about who they are. Recall 1930s Germany for instance. I am not saying Obama will be remotely that bad but it is an example of how even the intelligentsia can make HUGE mistakes when they don’t ask difficult questions.
Posted by: James | July 26, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Obama has missed his calling. He should go to HOllywood because he is a bigger actor than Ronald Reagan. He is a big theatrical bag of nonsense and full of fluff. I am voting for McCain in November!
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