Obama ‘Puzzled’ by Frenzy Over Iraq War Plan Comments
EmailABC News’ Sunlen Miller reports: Sen. Barack Obama told reporters he was “puzzled” by the press coverage he received on Thursday when he held two separate press conferences to explain his plan to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq.
On Thursday in Fargo, N.D,, Obama told reporters in a morning press conference that he will “continue to refine” his plan to withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq in 16 months.
Reporters immediately jumped on the comments that showed that Obama’s expressed openness to adjust his long-held 16-month withdrawal plans was at odds with the stance that he took during the primary campaign.
At his second hastily called press availability Thursday, Sen. Obama insinuated that the McCain campaign had primed the press and were to blame for the interpretation of his position.
En route to a speech in St Louis today, the Senator told reporters on his plane that the news cycle his comments caused was perplexing.
“I was a little puzzled by the frenzy that I set off by what I thought was a pretty innocuous statement, which is that I am absolutely committed to ending the war,” he said.
Obama reiterated his commitment to his withdraw plan again. “I will call my joint chiefs of staff and give them an assignment and that is to end the war,” he said. “I think what’s important is to understand the difference between strategy and tactics. I have always believed that our invasion of Iraq was a strategic blunder.”
He continued, “The tactics of how we ensure our troops are safe as we pull out, how we execute the withdrawal. Those are things that are all based on facts and conditions, and you know I’m not somebody who, unlike George Bush, is willing to ignore facts on the basis of my preconceived notions. I want to pay attention to what’s happening on the ground.”
Sen. Obama — who plans a trip to Iraq this month — took issue with reporters who “finely calibrated” his statements, and specific words, on his Iraq War plan. “I wasn’t saying anything that I hadn’t said before,” Obama said.
“I don’t think in anyway it is inconsistent with prior statements and doesn’t change my strategic view that this war has to end and that I am going to end it as president," he repeated again.
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Americans should be very concerned about Obama “being puzzled over his comments on Iraq.” Free Ride does not get it because he has had a free ride and has not been vetted by the press. Now that he is the party’s nominee, he gets more scrutiny, particularly when he screws up like on his comments on Iraq. It is good that he is being held accountable, though for this Hillary Democrat, I will be voting for John.
Posted by: benvictor | July 5, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Did poor Barry think he controlled the press???
Get a clue, pal–if you FLIP FLOP, they will call you on it. Since you do it almost daily, they just wait for the next one to come out.
Whining that the McCain camp primed them is just plain wimpy and dishonest.
Backtrack Obama is his new name.
Posted by: Foodforthought | July 5, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
The press say one negative thing and he doesn’t get it. Just think what he would say if the press really did it’s job.
Posted by: FL voter | July 5, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
I want our next president to actually listen to others. The McBUSH way is to stay the course in spite of the facts. Disaster.
Posted by: kta | July 5, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
The journalist and newspapers did a poor job of reporting. In speeches going back to 2007 he always said he would not be careless about the withdrawals and include input from those on the ground.
Poor reporting and very littl critical thinking being done when covering both candidates lately.
Posted by: musicisourhigh | July 5, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
>>>>>dl:
You quoted <"I'm so smart that I knew this was going to be a long hard fought war and I still wanted to go" "heck me and Joe lieberman were put in charge of selling it by the Bush administration.'
lease reference your "cite".
Enquiring minds want to know.
Thanks
Posted by: hmmmm | July 5, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
If it was good governing to withdraw troops on an absolutely inflexible schedule regardless of new developments, any stubborn moron would make an excellent president.
Look no further than the last eight wonderful years of Cowboy George to see how this theory works out.
People who live their lives like that are ultimately taken care of through a form of natural selection, but it takes a bit longer with those born into rich families with political connections.
Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | July 5, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
This is the MSM trying to make a story out of nothing again. Pathetic.
Posted by: HonestAbe | July 5, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Where is John McCain? I understand he does not do work on weekends because he needs his rest. If he ever becomes POTUS that won’t be acceptable. Is McCain up to the task??
Posted by: HonestAbe | July 5, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Refine does NOT mean reverse.
Posted by: JR | July 5, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Oh yes, the media is trying to influence this election. McCain is given a free pass from the media regarding his flip flops on Iraq. First, Mcwar stated USA will be in Iraq for 100 years, then he said maybe 50 years. Then he said, in his dream USA be in Iraq until the year 2013. Last week he said “we will withdraw, but we will withdraw with victory and honor”. Notice in his earlier statement he gave a timetable for withdrawing and now he is not given a timetable. The media has clearly showing their bias.
Posted by: suv2001 | July 5, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Nixon did not got us out of VN you guys need to dig and study more of your history.Ixon was forced out VN by congress not funding anymore money. I just want to put that message out to you Obama lovers to understand the President cannot just say “That’s it no more war”. Come on guys think for just a little I don’t even think at this point Congress can even be able to do such a thing however they did prommised so to win their o6 majority in the house. So my point is please don’t beleive the troop out of iraq tactic. you will be fool.
Posted by: vegas | July 5, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
After all McCain’s so called military experience he led us into the most senseless war. If as a military guy and all the experience in the senate McCain got the war wrong then why is he even in the senate, let alone run for president.
I can not vote for a person who gets his area of expertise so wrong. What is the point?
Posted by: Jay | July 5, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
It sound like the Republicans are trying to get Obama off message.
Posted by: Deborah | July 5, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Hey, the media got it wrong again. The Media just can’t get it right. Obama plans to talk to the generals and learn “first hand” in a few hours the entire situation in Iraq but plans to continue on with his full plan of removing all of our troops from Iraq in 16 months no matter what the generals tell him. Obama has judgment based on his own judgment.
Posted by: Anne | July 5, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
HonestAbe,
You are exactly right, Obama has not changed his position…
You see the media needs to make this a “horse race” to keep ratings up. That is why if they find even some fake chink in Obama’s armor they go after it and trump it up. Can you imagine what would happen if they quit propping this old senile fool McBush up? The race would all but be over and this is only July!
So they throw it out there on the blogs and immediately all of the ignorant die hard sore loser Clintonites and Republican McCrazies jump on it and pile on!
Too bad for all the Clinton sore losers and the McBushes, because it won’t change the outcome in November.
The country wants a change and does NOT want 4 more years of BUSH!
Obama will win in a landslide come November!!!!
Posted by: Davis | July 5, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Puzzled? The guy is as dumb as a stick!
Posted by: Soetoro No! | July 5, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
He used the word “redefine” which simply means no changes to my original plan—doesn’t anyone understand. And it doesn’t matter what the general say we are going to leave Iraq, left them have their country back to lose it to the terrorists and let the terrorists grow in strength to come over here and get us. Hey, Obama let’s remove all of our soldiers from all of the bases around the world and just sit tight and wait and see what happens.
Posted by: Ann | July 5, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
The freshman Senator is in for a very rude awakening when/if he is finally allowed to talk to people who actually serve in the military, know how troop movements work, and what is involved in moving a force of that magnitude out of that area. Now is not the time to put someone in the Oval office who was not even a cub scout when it comes to responsible management of the military. I have personally watched him in an interview say that he would move troops against the advice of his generals because he was the CiC and I do not find it acceptable to lose more lives in an unsuccessful retreat than were lost in Nam.
Posted by: Skyebeader | July 5, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Obama has not talked to any active Generals yet.
Will the real Barack Obama, Please stand up.
Posted by: waggdogg | July 5, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Hey Davis:
It might actually be better that the pathetic media keeps pushing the perception that McCain can actually win. This will help keep the Obama campaign and Obama supporters on their toes until November. We don’t just want to beat McCain we want to destroy McCain and also take full control of the House and Senate.
Posted by: HonestAbe | July 5, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
waggdogg, the meaning of refine means “to improve or perfect by pruning or polishing”
If Bush and McCain had refined thier policies, our troops would not have died and the country will not be in debt, the economy will not be going down south, we might be paying $4.00 in gas.
Posted by: Jay | July 5, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
In other words, BHO reserves the right to flip-flop on all fronts through the “refinement” clause posted on the bottom of his designer shoes. Great. Just what we need. An elistist cub scout that once organized a local community bake-off.
Posted by: samfrombama | July 5, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Obama is going to learn not to be puzzled by the “frenzy” of the right-wong noise machine. This is their goal; manufacturing frenzy.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 5, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Major325 -
What change in the direction? Ending the war is ending the war.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 5, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
McCain is already showing signs of senile dementia — confusion, forgetfullness, irritablity, anger — by November he will be a basket case. Lieberman and Cindy will be taking all questions.
Posted by: HonestAbe | July 5, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Well then OBAMA does not communicate correctly. Everyone gets a different message. This guy is not suitable as a President. He needs much more experience. People need to know him better. He needs to develop a track record so people know what he stands for. He is just too big a gamble.
Posted by: DemocratNoMore2 | July 5, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Phillip Greene….Well said. Obama 08 Yeah Baby
Posted by: linda n carolina | July 5, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
waggdogg: “Obama has not talked to any active Generals yet.”
That’s kind of the whole point.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 5, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Like I said… desperate times call for desperate measures. THE GOP IS UTTERLY HOPELESS and trying all the backalley tactics they can to sway voters.
After 8 years of gwb and a promise of 4 more, howdy doody would be my choice.
Just so happens we have a candidate who is redrawing the electoral map with skill and brilliance.
so for all you GOP nutjobs …. get ready for a trouncing and tell your geriatric wonder there will be no need to stay up late on election night.
Posted by: Omentum | July 5, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
That’s why they call him flipper, flipper cause he flips his words around all the time. OBAMA THE NEXT McGovern!!
Posted by: buba | July 5, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
General Colin Powell has met with Obama back in June and is thinking about endorsing him. I hope he does. He would send the right message to the world!
I’m supporting Barack Obama because our troops want to come home and know that McCain/Bush/Cheney/Rove what to keep them fighting a senseless war. For what? There was no WMD! They destroyed Powell’s reputation on this. The media played along back then! Now with stories like this they are helping the Republicans once again. Score one for Rove he has the media dancing to his tune again. I can hardly wait until John Edwards debates Karl Rove.
Colin Powell endorsing Obama would shock the world and hopefully rock all the scary Republican attack dogs who always win.
I’m for Barak Obama!
Posted by: Frank | July 5, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
“Obama is going to learn not to be puzzled by the “frenzy” of the right-wong noise machine”. That is highly inappropriate and extremely racist, to single out a segment of our population such as this. I think that an apology is more than necessary.
Posted by: Skyebeader | July 5, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Vote Mccain he is the best thing are country needs. Obama is just not trustworthy.
Posted by: Omentum | July 5, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Skyebeader – Are you referring to my typo? I’m not sure what segment of the population that would refer too! LOL
Posted by: jock59801 | July 5, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Vote Mccain latest polls have Mccain and Obama about tied. This should bring Mccain over the top!!
Mccain 08 Baby!!!!!
Posted by: Snarxon | July 5, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
“Change”…change the message again…that’s change he was talking about?
Posted by: lois | July 5, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
OIL OIL OIL Once OBama pulls troops out OIL will go $300.00 mmmmmmmmmm so that means you pay about $10.00 + a gallon.
Posted by: Snarxon | July 5, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
DemocratNoMore2 -
How is bin Laden going to get Iraq’s oil? He has never been there and likely never will be. “Al Qaeda” in Iraq could not possibly take over the country. They don’t have the numbers or the public support.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 5, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
If you look close at McCain he is really a pretty nice and good person. He will do an honest job. He is not Bush.
Posted by: DemocratNoMore2 | July 5, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
DemocratNoMore2-
“Obama only wants windmills.”
LIE
Posted by: jock59801 | July 5, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
I’m glad not to be an American. You guys don’t know the magnitude of your vote in the general election and what it means for your continued existence. You guys should mark my words today, if you vote McCain in, you would go to not only Canada and Mexico in search of food but Cuba. Am happy to come from a country where things are done well and where issues count in elections and not what the opponent or the press term the other guy. You should be ashamed of yourselves, your $10 billion is wasted in another country (Iraq); most of your people including your veterans are hungry and homeless; your roads are broken; your educational system is at the brink of collapse; the high gas price is killing you. Do you still want the same, probably the worst for the next 4 – 8 years? Your destiny is in your hands now, so be wise!!!
Posted by: mania4real | July 5, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Molly: Ok So Hillary LOST…not screwed out of the nomination as alot of you keep saying.You know as well as I do Obama and Hillary were almost side by side on the issues. So how can you go against everything Hillary stood for. Your angry ok so after you vote for McCain then what? Your happy with the last 8 years? Great!!!! You’ll get another 4 more just like it with McCain.
Posted by: linda n carolina | July 5, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
A tie at this point means trouble for Obama. He needs to come out of the convention with at least a 10 – 20 point lead to have a chance. Most of these polls do not reflect the electoral college factor – WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC – NOT A PURE DEMOCRACY, AND RIGHTLY SO. Sad, but many of you guys either don’t know the difference or just don’t know what the heck I am talking about!
Posted by: Manitu | July 5, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
JFK served in the U.S. Congress for 6 years, starting almost immediately after his discharge from his own military service, where he was injured in combat, and then served 7 years as a U.S. Senator before being elected President. He was an author, but chose to write non-fiction books about the heroism of other members of the U.S. military, and not about fictional events such as his Kansas roots and living on foodstamps before they were introduced.
Posted by: Skyebeader | July 5, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
samfrombama
People criticizing Obama for legitimate reasons (e.g. issues, experience) are not racist. But I have to wonder about the people who insist on calling him stupid. I realize that “stupid” is what people with small vocabularies always call other people they don’t like, but since Obama is so obviously NOT stupid, I do wonder about the motivations.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 5, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Good get us out, and be smart about Iran. We don’t have the money for another adventure.
Posted by: antenian | July 5, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Manitu
Obama is more clearly ahead in the electoral college calculations than he is in the national polls (which show at least a 5-point lead, not a “tie”).
Posted by: jock59801 | July 5, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
McCain is a pathetic candidate. He will be so easy to beat. Compared to Hillary, McCain is a lightweight. It’s like beating up your senile crippled grandfather. I think the GOP needs to seriously look into replacing him if they want to have any chance at winning. IMHO.
Posted by: HonestAbe | July 5, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
If the republicans are squawking about Obama ‘refining a plan’, then they’ve already lost this presidency. Let them continue to ‘sit’ and squawk and bitch about petty little things. It makes the republicans look weak and stupid and their arguments against Obama pointless, even irrelevant. Obama by a landslide.
Posted by: Seagull politics | July 5, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
The reason McCain is losing is because the bold independent maverick John McCain of the past has been replaced by a semi-senile confused pandering old angry fool surrounded by an army of lobbyists and special interests.
Posted by: HonestAbe | July 5, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
WE CAN CHOOSE ONLY BETWEEN 2 GUYS. JOHN McCAIN OR BARACK OBAMA. IF McCAIN WAS ANY GOOD, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT 8 YEARS AGO, NOT GEORGE BUSH. WHY NONE OF YOU EVER VOTED FOR HIM IN 2000. YOU ELLECTED GOERGIE THE DUMMY FOR PRESIDENT. NOW YOUR GEORGIE IS SUPPORTING McCAIN JUST SO HE COULD SCREW US ANOTHER 4 YEARS. DON’T BE STUPID AND LETS MOVE AWAY FROM THE FEAR TACTICS AND GEORGE W BUSH. DO NOT ELLECT McCAIN BECAUSE HE HAS TO LISTEN TO GEORGE W BUSH.
Posted by: BOBSTER | July 5, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
jock – what do you think about the current relevance of the electoral college? I certainly understand its historical base and why it was established because of demographics and distance. I have seen a number of proposals for revisions that would nullify the effects of states like CA/FL from overpowering the heartland. I’m a little torn to see the votes of the people being tread upon as they are. Military votes being tossed. Votes in early states that were thrown away on “they didn’t get the nomination so we’ll put ‘em where we think they oughta go”, and the like. Do you think that we might have evolved as a nation to actually allow the highest office in the land to be decided by the true will of the people?
Posted by: Skyebeader | July 5, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
I do think that Obama has truly earned the name flip flop Obama. He just does not know which way to go on the issues. He is for one thing one day and the next day he has changed his mind.
Posted by: s4b0 | July 5, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
He’s surprised because no one in the media held him responsible for the things he said during the primary. He never thought they would catch up with him!
Posted by: beebop | July 5, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
rc—-AND HE WILL
Posted by: rodney | July 5, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Obama!! YES WE CAN! Obama will be lucky if he gets 25% of the vote in the general election. He is going down in the polls and he will just keep sinking. Get used to it McCain will be the next president.
Posted by: s4bo | July 5, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
The media has no love they will turn on Obama watch and see.
Posted by: rambo | July 5, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
The only people committed to ending “the war” FIGHTING TERRORISM are the people trying to win it. Obama and the rest of the Liberals aren’t anti-war, they are Pro Terrorism and Pro Genocide. More sick Liberal hypocrisy. The real enemies are here.
Posted by: Neo Politicus | July 5, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Obama!! yes we can! Obama you know does not have a chance. The polls show the last time I checked Obama was leading by only 1%. Obama is on his way back to Chicago and does not realize it yet.
Posted by: n9b12 | July 5, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
skyebeader
i was at work at the time–it was the most shocking sick feeling i ever had—–his famous speachwill always be with me and has guided me to some extent all my life——(FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION)
Posted by: rodney | July 5, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Obama is running for Bushes third term!!
Posted by: jack | July 5, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
i don’t care what the media says about Obama – he’s my candidate and I’m sticking with him. The liars and crooks in the MSM can talk all the trash they want, but the people are sticking with Obama not the old man!
Posted by: jillian coe | July 5, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
honestabe—-along with his military records.
Posted by: rodney | July 5, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
That’s the spirit, jillian. Vote for your candidate regardless of credentials, past affiliations, or stated agenda. Just have someone show you which lever to pull…
Posted by: samfrombama | July 5, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
honestabe–some of us do know
Posted by: rodney | July 5, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Mr. Obama,
What’s your next change?
Posted by: Alex | July 5, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
I can’t imagine how it must fill to be a Democrat. Almost every election they get beat time after time. They couldn’t even beat George W. Bush in 2004.
Posted by: chris | July 5, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
not as stupid as a Democrat!
Posted by: chris | July 5, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
I remember when I used to think Republicans were competent, had depth of thought and truly cared. That was when I WAS a Republican and before they proved all those perceptions wrong. They led us down a path that puts us between a rock and a hard place. Now, they want us to continue that path with a few small and insignificant changes. They deserve to be ousted at every level of government. It’s time for REAL change.
Posted by: seenthelight | July 5, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
chris – if Republicans are so smart, and Democrats are so stupid, how come Democrats won WWI and WWII and Republicans can’t even pacify a cheap falafel stand like Iraq? Nice try, dude. But you lose.
Posted by: kelly schirmer | July 5, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
GO OBAMA —-FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION
Posted by: rodney | July 5, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
candy says
What in the world are you trying to say?
Posted by: A | July 5, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
chris – do you think the Presidency is the only elected office in the United States? Grow up.
Posted by: mad mike | July 5, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
HonestAbe
Can you prove that assertion? Posted by: A
========
Which one? I made about a hundred in that past 60 minutes.
Posted by: HonestAbe | July 5, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Obama has been puzzled from the start.
Posted by: rdotx | July 5, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
chris – i live in the adult world where decent people work hard, raise families, play by the rules and don’t go in for the kind of sleaze that you seem to be so proud of. I don’t know if you’re just immature or if you were raised poorly or not properly educated or what, but you don’t seem like a good person to me. You seem like a bad human being with alot of problems. Maybe you should work on yourself instead of getting all worked up over politics. I think this is just a distraction from your real problems as a person. You are not a good man.
Posted by: candy says | July 5, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
We all know that most of the bloggers that post negative biased message against Obama are either working for Mccain campain or pro Hillary extremists. It is very clear that regular voters don’t have this kind of ruthless attitude against Obama.
Obama 08!
Posted by: Independent Josh | July 5, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
The U.S. military will not take orders from Obama. And he won’t be able to do a thing about it.
Posted by: tanarg | July 5, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
candy says
Well, that’s about the most opinionated bigoted thing I’ve ever heard.
Posted by: A | July 5, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
HonestAbe – “I think the POW stuff is off-limits.” – I couldn’t agree with you more. I don’t plan on voting for the honorable Senator McCain, but to disparage someone who went through way more than I ever will for my country, well, that’s just wrong.
Posted by: jmengate | July 5, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
“However, had it been the other way around I suspect the wacko right-winger swiftboaters would have come up with some crazy story about him being friendly with commies and got special treatment by giving away military secrets. HonestAbe”
========================
Actually that is exactly what I heard McCain did, for real!
Posted by: Davis | July 5, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
chris – please don’t misrepresent yourself and lie about being in Iraq. That’s really sad.
Posted by: hanno | July 5, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
A bonehead will always make boneheaded mistakes. Then, he denies it. then, he shifts the blame to his opponent. What do you expect. He deceives.
Posted by: fat cat | July 5, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
i guess chris’ mommy took the computer away from him – if this is the quality of the typical obama-basher, then i’m even more sure that i’m doing the right thing by voting for him.
Posted by: candy says | July 5, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
People think that Mccain has national security experience because he got shot when he was flying a fighter jet. People need to realize that Mccain didn’t design any millitary strategy or didn’t give any millitary instruction from a high ranking position. He was also a pow and didn’t have a chance to learn or give more attention to national security related issues during the vietnam war. This means he is a hero but doesn’t have the necessary experience to make decision on national security. As a proof we saw when he was confused betweem Shite and sunni. Apart from that he is too old to be alert on 24/7 to examine and assess the national security situation of the nation. I think all I have mentioned so far is even clear for high school students.
Posted by: Dan | July 5, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Brilliant inspiring visionary or senile aging warmonger — you decide.
Good night all.
Posted by: HonestAbe | July 5, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Davis – isn’t PUMA just a Republican Front Orgnaization anyway? I don’t know any real Hillary supporters who have switched their allegiance to McSame. I think this is all just a Republican campfire story.
Posted by: lascar | July 5, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
skybreader – that’s a fine emotional speech, and I salute your spouse’ service. But I don’t see how it qualifies John McCain to be President. I’m basing my vote on policies, not romantic military associations, and I just don’t like McCain’s policies – and I didn’t like them when they were originally Bush’s, either.
Posted by: nicodemus | July 5, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
REDNECK – “Hey Obama’s supporters………Did you hear about the “august suprise”?” So THAT’s what you’re smoking REDNECK!!!! Please, please, please, give me some of your August suprise!
Posted by: jmengate | July 5, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
“skybeader – i think the answer is pretty obvious: McCain got alot of preferential treatment and free passes throughout his military career because his father was a famous admiral.”
Just post the links. Those little, pesky, UCMJ records are just so public. You can cert yourself with this one (or as many as you would like) link. BTW, they do end with a very traditional three-character suffix to show their authenticity before newbies click. That’s like .com, .org, you know those pesky things…
Posted by: Skyebeader | July 5, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
skybeader – actually, not all of McCain’s military records are public. i think that there might be something to this – after all, he did crash alot of planes and get alot of preferential treatment even though he was near the bottom of his class at anapolis…
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | July 5, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Omentum:
No problem.
Posted by: Snarxon | July 5, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
gen lied – Ummm, dude, I think you went to the wrong board….
Posted by: jmengate | July 5, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Manitu – quite true. Easy to see, easy to bust, but they will come back and pretend that they are you. Not that any of the oldtimers do not recognize the difference – ;-0
Posted by: Skyebeader | July 5, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Jimbo – first of all, I’m not a lib, I’m a moderate. Second of all, I don’t recall any carbombs in Chicago killing any US soldiers this week, like what happened in Iraq on Wednesday. Third, limited good news doesn’t mean the war is over yet. No real political progress has been made and without that, the surge is just a lull between the next round of fighting.
Posted by: Leo Fuld | July 5, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Hmmm. Checking back on this board, I see the dregs of the internet are continuing to degenerate into depravity. Let’s see who can call each other the worst names, and whoever succeeds in disgusting the most people, that’s how we will choose the next President of the United States! God bless America!
Are you all 10 years old? – no, most 10-year-olds have actually developed some aspects of human decency. I would despair for America, if I didn’t know that out here in the real world, America still has people worth fighting for.
Honestly, people, do you ever listen to yourselves? For shame.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 5, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Man, you are some sick people. I thought Abe was delusional…
Posted by: samfrombama | July 5, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
wow, the rightwing psychos are out in force now… oy vey…
Posted by: kimbers | July 5, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
A bonehead will always make boneheaded mistakes. Then, he denies it. then, he shifts the blame to his opponent. What do you expect. He deceives.
Posted by: fat cat | July 5, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Being puzzled? Obama should have felt ashamed to lie to the public again and again in order to get elected. I am puzzled American people are so easy to be fooled by him.
Posted by: pat | July 5, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
I think the only people who are confused is the media – Obama hasn’t changed his position at all. It must be a slow newsweek.
Posted by: marnie | July 5, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
“actually, not all of McCain’s military records are public.” Divorce records and USFSPA records are very public in the military and that is what we were talking about.
Posted by: Skyebeader | July 5, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
ha. stupid libs.
But I do kind of agree with what he was saying…
Posted by: Jose | July 5, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Jose – me too…
Posted by: Jimbo | July 5, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Why is Obama ashamed to be Obama now that the primaries are over?
Posted by: James Thornton | July 5, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
tanarg – amen. Our military will never bow down to a black Marxist – if Obama is elected there will be a coup and we will have military rule and get rid of the Marxists once and for all.
Posted by: Jose | July 5, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Matitu – the funny thing is that I don’t really disagree with alot of what he says. I just wouldn’t put it so vehemently, but essentially I think that we could use a good purge in this country to get rid of all the leftists and traitors.
Posted by: Temagami | July 5, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
tanarg: “I do realize what I am advocating…”
Careful there, pal – so does everyone else, and you better believe that law enforcement keeps an eye on these blogs too. You could find yourself in deep doo-doo for it.
So now exactly who are you accusing of treason?
Posted by: Snarxon | July 5, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
olderthanadem,
You seem to have forgotten Obama recently said he didn’t mind the high gas prices, he just wishes it hadn’t happened so quickly.
And Gore is famous for saying he wanted high gas prices so people would cut back.
Don’t think for a second that the democrats would do a DAMN THING about the cost of gas. They love it. It suits their agenda.
Posted by: Jo | July 5, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
“Sen. Obama insinuated that the McCain campaign had primed the press and were to blame for the interpretation of his position.”
That is exactly correct. I do not want to find out what it would be like when he tries to explain himself through a second press conference after a period of hours when he has made a boneheaded comment that he didn’t realize he did, after 20 years of listening to the shapers of his thinking, when those he irritated have nukes. I think most people would say “collateral in the millions”. Not worth the risk.
Posted by: Skyebeader | July 5, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Sounds like he’s trying to scare off the press from making any remarks…. I doubt that will scare them… maybe anger them instead. Wouldn’t that be great if they started vetting him like they should have done a year ago?
Posted by: PA_Voter | July 5, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
jo
You seem to be under the misguided impression that the Republicans can do a damn thing about the cost of oil. No amount of drilling is going to get us out of this mess. The ever increasing demand by China and India, to name a few, for the worlds energy supplies is here to stay and increased production by U.S. oil companies will benefit no one except themselves.
Posted by: olderthanadam | July 5, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
It has been suggested that the end ofthe world will be in 2012. If so, I suggest that we just get it over with and vote in Obama and end this misery in 2008.
Posted by: Scott | July 6, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
SCOTT.
PRICELESS!!!
Posted by: Temagami | July 6, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Go ahead and vote for McCain. If he wins it will be a guarantee that government of special interests, by special interests, and for special interests shall not perish from this earth.
Posted by: olderthanadam | July 6, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Smooth talker tries to smooth things over as usual.
Nothing was over blown He changed his stance and time table. After being so Infatic on His Iraq plans.
When you change your mind, ideas and how you stand on you own polices and platforms, It shows instabilty.
He can lead a country or have the people believe in him, when he doesn’t know what he believes in Himself.
The Past two weeks He has let americans down with his changing his mind and stance. Trying to fluff it over only makes him look worse.
We he ever stand up and be a man and be firm on any of his polices, I think not.
I honestly do not think he knows what he wants besides a vote.
Posted by: seah | July 6, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Yet what he says is exactly the opposite of what his website is saying.
Posted by: Winners in Iraq | July 6, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Obama is a liar, he used Iraq war to win the nominee, now he faces the reality and the Republican, so he changes his tone, “Change we can” of Obama. If who ever against the Iraq war for any reason, then would you serve the country for any reason? If you don’t serve the country in uniform like Obama, then the Iraq war in some how, some way is not your business.
Obama is the socialist, he will take money form the middle class and give to the lazy, the tax payer will pay for all the bill, not him.
Posted by: Kevin P | July 6, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
Obama is a liar, he used Iraq war to win the nominee, now he faces the reality and the Republican, so he changes his tone, “Change we can” of Obama. If who ever against the Iraq war for any reason, then would you serve the country for any reason? If you don’t WANT to serve the country in uniform like Obama, then the Iraq war in some how, some way is not your business.
Obama is the socialist, he will take money form the middle class and give to the lazy, the tax payer will pay for all the bill, not him.
Posted by: Kevin P | July 6, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Kevin, you are right. If America had known Backtrack Obama’s real feelings concerning the war during the primaries, Hillary would have been the nominee. What a loser Obama is and a fake!
Posted by: Will | July 6, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
hillary4change,
Gee and what mess would that be? Being ahead in the polls for weeks, you mean that mess?
Let’s face it you dried up die hard Hillary sore loser – you lost, now “get over it sweetie.”
I can’t wait for the first debate when your new old fool senile candidate goes up against Barack. Sorry he won’t have a prepared speech or a “hand picked” town hall crowd to rely on this time…
Barack is going to kick that old fools butt!
And as far as Hillary goes, well we can see just what she is doing nowadays. Begging money from Obama and supporters like me to pay off all her bad debts from her totally mis-managed campaign!
American really dodged a bullet on that one. Most people in America would never want a president that stands up in front of the country and LIES about being under SNIPER FIRE! Too reminiscent of her “has been” husband BillyBob wagging his finger at all of us lying about “not having sex with that woman.”
Good riddence to that delusional sore loser Hillary!
Vote for McBush if you want you and the handful of die hard loser supporters she has left. Because it won’t make a dent in the coming Obama LANDSLIDE in November!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!
Posted by: Davis | July 6, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
Will,
The media is simply trying to keep this a horse race… I mean it is just July and they need to keep the ratings up all summer until the reruns end and the new TV season begins!
If they were to tell the truth and reveal all the flip flops and “senior moments” this old fool has been having, well it would already be over!
Just wait until October. The media (well except for FOX Noise) wants Barak in there. They will stretch it out until October until the new TV season starts (to keep ratings up) and then the hammer is coming down on McBush!
Obama is going to win in a landslide!!!
Posted by: Davis | July 6, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
As far as Backtrack Obama debating McCain, McCain will rip Obama a new one! Remember, Obama lost all of the 21 previous debates…why, because he doesn’t have Axelrod writing his responses and he doesn’t have a teleprompter. Face it, Obama can’t speak on the stump. He has great rhetoric from written speeches, but, when he has to respond on his own, he flip-flops and goes all over the place. McCain will destroy Backtrack Obama in a debate…Obama is waiting because he knows this and is afraid. I can’t wait to see NoBama respond….”uhh…ummm…uhhh….I agree with Mrs. Clinton”. LOL…what an idiot Obama is!
Posted by: Will | July 6, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
It’s just words. Everything that Obama says is just words, man!
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Obama — words in an empty suit!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | July 6, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Obama doesn’t get it. In 2002 he made a speech opposing the war, without access to Intelligence paper, trumpeting his superior judgement over then generals, without the responsibility of voting since he was not in Senate at the time. Now in 2008, he said that he will listen to the generals and refine his strategy. Talk about two-facedness and hypocrisy at the highest level.
Posted by: Yes_we_will | July 6, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
move on.org must be busy swollowing their pride. Don’t hear from them much lately.I sure like to see one of them big ads in respose to Obama shoving them under the bus for few extra bucks I mean votes.
Posted by: gloria | July 6, 2008, 4:02 am 4:02 am
sounds great!
I’ll get the goat!
Posted by: questioner | July 6, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am
Keep up the good work!
Good Night, HFC
Posted by: questioner | July 6, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am
Obama is exercising common sense when dealing with ending the botched war in Iraq.
1. He has consistenly stated this is a war that should not have been waged.
2. He has brain power enough to know we have to withdraw with a better plan than the one used to get us into this mess.
3. He also knows there are several permanent bases that we have to deal with due to the Bush/McCain plan of staying there for an eternity. It’s not our land and we should stay out of the affairs of the middle east that are none of our business.
It is an oil war, simple and true and it does not have anything to do with protecting Israel.
Any commander in chief has to use credible intellegence when dealing with a matter of this magnitude as he weighs the pros and cons on any troop withdrawal timeline.
The media is grilling him because they have nothing of interest to cover right now.
They need to grill McCain on how he just by chance planned a trip to Columbia when the hostages were freed.
Was someone planning a crafted McCain campaign moment by possibly aligning him with this historical posistive international story that has a domestic interest due to the 3 freed Americans?
Now that is a story worth investigating. Not this lukewarm, lunch leftovers, grilling of Obama on a subject he has already consistenly declared a stance on months ago during the primaries.
Where there is smoke there is fire. What a bunch of BS.
Posted by: clarity | July 6, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am
Obama has conned all of his supporters and is laughing at all of them that fell for his fake policies.
I am so embarrassed of him representing American values.
He’s worse than Bush.
Posted by: Rick from Pa | July 6, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am
Godncountry.
Posted by: Jimbo | July 6, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am
Al from NJ: You’re the best! Thanks.
Posted by: tanarg | July 6, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
timmy i agree semms to be some fishy things going on all negitivity about obama and all greatness about mccain
hmm your right interesting
Posted by: ANGIE | July 6, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Clarity stated:
The media is grilling him because they have nothing of interest to cover right now.
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The media is grilling Obama now because they have seen through his empty logic and substance. I knew this was going to happen this summer. The media, who was so pro-Obama during the primaries, have now turned their backs on him. Remember, in the early days of the primaries, there was the idea that the media (GOP Controlled) wanted Obama to be the candidate. The GOP knew Hillary would be impossible to beat in the GE. So, the media got behind Obama, along with the DNC, and StupidDelegates, to “select” Backtrack Obama, because he would be the easier to beat. I’m laughing, because NoBama and his supporters thought he would just waltz in and take the White House. However, now that NoBama has become arrogant and basically stupid, the media is vetting him. America sees him for what he is, a liar. Thats why he’s outspending McCain 6 to 1, but can’t close the deal. Because of his flip-flopping on major issues, he’s losing many Independents, the few Hillary supporters he may have had, and even many of his own supporters (me for one). He actually thought he had this election won, even made a presidential emblem for himself. Obama is a fruitcake and now, he will suffer to the end. The GOP hasn’t even started their onslught of attacks on him. They are waiting, just patiently waiting, slowly attracting the prey (Obama) into the trap and then they’ll pounce on him and that will be it. Obama, because he is weak and no intellect, is succumbing to the GOP. Make fun of McCain, but he has taken a stand and has not wavered. You NoBama supporters thought McCain would be an easy win, its time for you to quit drinking the Kool Aid and realize that Backtrack Obama will not win the GE this year.
Posted by: Will | July 6, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Let’s not forget that Afghanistan is falling apart because they had to use all of the troops in Iraq. The success of one should not be at the sacrifice of the other. We started out in Afghanistan because of the real terrorist threat there. Most soldiers are being killed in Afghanistan than are being killed in Iraq. I wouldn’t call that success, I would call that a failure.
Posted by: The Unshrub | July 6, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
hey giovanni do you really think creating such a transparent piece of work is going to sway even one person? Possibly away from your cause.
Posted by: abram | July 6, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
As the campaigning progresses, the Press and Public will pay more attention to Obama and BHO’s flip-flopping will continue. This time the nation does not have much choice. Choosing between BHO and McCain is going to be diificult. I have lost faith in the two-party system. Eventually, you will have to settle for lesser of the two evils.
Posted by: Kris | July 6, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
BHO will lose by a landslide. Mark my words. I ain’t just a whistlin’ dixie.
Posted by: Delbert | July 6, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Obama is committed to making sure that Obama gets paid. That sums it up.
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Don’t vet Obama. It’s Obama’s turn to get paid!!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | July 6, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Obama is puzzled when anyone questions him. He’s so used to the media giving him a pass.
Or perhaps puzzled that Americans aren’t as dumb as he thought we were.
McCain08
Posted by: riley | July 6, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
In reply to the person who said.” Mc Cain has to earn my vote” I say
Ask not what your vote can do for you rather ask what your vote can do for your country.
Ask me not who i am voting for, but rather ask me what I am voting for.
Senetor McCain has proven himself throughout his life.
Election campaign is and as it should be “Showtime”
But if you are still at the rehersal stage. I’m afraid you missed the show.
Mc Cain has a standing ovation. while obama is backstage with make up!!!
Posted by: gloria | July 6, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Obama “puzzled”…..Obama “puzzled” How could anyone be puzzled when they flip flop DUH…..Is he puzzled because he failed to think BEFORE he opened his mouth or because the American people are finally getting wise to the flip flopping liar from Illinois…
Posted by: glenda | July 6, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Seems, Senator Obama can not remember what her says from Friday to Monday, then is puzzled when the press starts asking questions. Is this really a man who thinks he is entitled to be President of the United States????
LOL- that is funny.
Posted by: Mary | July 6, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Exactly what McCain was saying when he said that Obama is untrustworth. This is definitely a BIG problem for BHO and it has taken a long time for the press to catch onto his ability to delude the public. So with more smoke and mirrors, BHO chastises the media by describing them as ‘in a frenzy’ by his statements.
Posted by: Tellyv8 | July 6, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Obama has three years in the senate and he really doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Poor judgement and no military record is not the type of experience we need in the White House.
Obama is conning us all.
Just like Reverend Wright said he would do.
Posted by: Rick from Pa | July 7, 2008, 5:11 am 5:11 am
He is puzzled. He has told so many lies he cant remember them all.
Posted by: KC | July 7, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am
Voters should be very afraid of what is awaiting this country should McCAin win. More years of personal suffering will await the working middle class if McCain wins. He has no real plan for “hard working Americans”. He wants to keep giving the rich tax cuts. The military servicemen will never come home, the elderly will have no security and the young will suffer too. Tuition hikes are stopping the bright students from studying.Jobs will continue to disappear.Gloomy enough for you? Then don’t vote repuclican this election. Give the democrats a chance.
Posted by: MAria Hopgood | July 7, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Hey jay, here’s another definition of refine: 1. To become pure; to be cleared of feculent matter.
And Obambi is truly full of feculent matter. No experience, rehashing failed liberal policies, tax, tax, tax. Puzzled, I don’t think he has a clue.
Posted by: brwillham | July 7, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
What else can we say? He lies. Trying to one-up others in the debates, he insisted that he would have the troops out in 16 months, maximum. Then, he stupidly said later that if there was a crisis and Al Quaeda came back, we would go back in. Whoa! Anyone debating him on these issues can call him out on his previous words. Like he says, however, “words don’t matter!” Once a double-talker, always a double-talker. Same as lie after lie after lie. By the time he has evolved far past his current greeness, it could be too late on his stupid judgement.
Posted by: georgia | July 7, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
I’d be puzzled, too, if after being crowned King of the Universe someone had the audacity to question me or my words. I mean, afterall…the media did annoint him, crown him, and insist we worship at his feet.
Posted by: Benji | July 7, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Americans supporting Obama,
You are buying the packaging and ignoring the product inside. Google Donald Young,Larry Sinclair, and Rezko and find out who this man really is before you vote. Don’t forget your flip flops! NobamaNetwork.com
Posted by: NobamaNetwork.com | July 9, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm