Obama To Talk Tough-Love at NAACP, Despite Jackson Frustrations

Seems to be a typical political move that the phony BhO has always played. First he cannot disown his “uncle” as much as he cannot disown his grandmother. Then, he throw one under the bus and disowned the other simply the wind has turned directions. He used his beloved Trinity as a step stone to street organize, now he quit because it might not be most beneficial to him any longer. Now he thinks sticking to the gun would help him to pander the “anti-Jacksonians”, he talks tough love.
Yup, tough love, phony.

He knows the black community will forgive him of anything. He is pandering to the white voters. The proof is that Jackson kissed Obama’s ### at his sermon the other night in Denver. With the black vote secured, BO knows he can say anything and his homeys will still have his back.

This is not “Tough-Love”, it’s COMMON SENSE.

Ann:
First of all, no one is saying that our military personnel haven’t been working hard and doing their jobs. However, it was clear from the outset that Bush/cheney ensured that many of the benchmarks set for review of progress in Iraq were either meaningless or very easy to reach.
As to your figure that 86% of High School grads are multi-lingual, I’d like to see your source for that info. Probably not a credible one.
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

As a teacher, this message is for all parents. Stop the video games and constant entertainment. We need to realize that China and India are ready for a new world and we are complacent in our lives here in America thinking that we can continue to influence the world. When we give up the promise of what we can be, we give up our influence. Wake up, America. Bring some definition to your children’s lives!

OBama is right to state the known truth. Black men must become responsible to family values. Blacks must become accountable to their lack of educational results. The answers are devotion to family and a no excuse approach to getting an education.

Obama is pandering to white voters. The NAACP needs no lecture from him. After all this organization is a pioneer in any subject he can raise. Does he lecture to predominantly white organizations? He needs to show respect, and stop concentrating on negatives. There are many responsible Blacks. He keeps this up, he’s going to overplay his hand.

Again I say, I’m proud of Obama! As an African-American female, he is saying/doing what our village chieftains would have said/done. This is rather interesting though. Obama speaks out about responsibility; he’s pandering. What was the Coz’s (Bill Cosby) motivation again when he said the same thing and was attacked by other blacks?!
The bottom line is that there is a class warefare going on in the black community which no one wants to talk about and the ones who are progressive seems to articulate the same message, PERIOD! Some blacks who even agree with the Obama/Cosby message have been beaten into submission in NOT lending their voices in concurrence.
What I don’t get is how it is that my people are so STUCK on whites!! Stop worrying about how they think and what they do and concentrate on making our own families/communities more functional.
Because ultimately I don’t care how you try to dress it up or put furniture around it…yes there are some racists whites but even they aren’t powerful enough to make a triflin black man lay down, impregnate a woman then walk off as if he just discarded garbage.
MJ

That’s how we’ll truly honor those who came before us. Because I know that Thurgood Marshall did not argue Brown versus Board of Education so that some of us could stop doing our jobs as parents. And I know that nine little children did not walk through a schoolhouse door in Little Rock so that we could stand by and let our children drop out of school and turn to gangs for the support they are not getting elsewhere. That’s not the freedom they fought so hard to achieve. That’s not the America they gave so much to build. That’s not the dream they had for our children.~~I am not an Obama supporter but I do admire the way he will not back down.This IS an important issue and he DOES have first hand experience.

As Obama’s daughter sasha would say blah blah blah blah. This is nothing new. He is not the first person to discuss this how about move on from speeches where noone can ask you questions on policies how about a debate with McCain when will that happen?

GO OBAMA, NOW GET HILLARY ON THE TICKET, NOW!!!

How can you really disagree with this statement? The government can’t help those who won’t help themselves. I don’t care what your political views, it’s tough to refute this argument. Give credit to Obama.
“But I’m not going to stop talking about it. Because I believe that in the end, it doesn’t matter how much money we invest in our communities, or how many 10-point plans we propose, or how many government programs we launch – none of it will make any difference if we don’t seize more responsibility in our own lives.”

Obama should take his own advice. He was the one that took his children to Trinity church and listened to Rev. Wright and his racist, anti-america words. Why wasn’t the CPS called on all the members of trinity?

Obama is the “do as I say” and “not as I do” kinda politician.

It’s amazing. Republicans have been talking about personal responsibility for the longest time. It was the Democrats who kept telling Americans the the government can solve all their problems. So, Obama is on the Republican side on this issue.

What he is talking about applies to many many white people, believe me. Same story-children out of wedlock-neglect-multiple fathers-no responsibility. And of course the goverment incentive of free insurance, wic, checks, the whole mess. The government is the enabler. As a white guy, I can say that race is not why this is going on. It’s all races. The problems is when the government subsidizes the destruction of the family. Jackson has made alot of money on the victim game$$$, and he wants the checks to keep coming as he benefits, so no wonder he is upset with Obama. Obama is showing he is a real and wise leader here. I am a Dem, but this is so obvious. Obama is real.

Everytime the media comes hard on Obama, there is a suprise Reverend to his rescue, so he can pretend to discard, distance himself, and say “see I disagree” and calm down the nervous white folks who are politically from the center. Obama has given us Rev. Wright, Father fledger, and Rev. Jackson. When Obama wins those white folks from the center, his next challege will be the right-wing whites. In that case Reverend he will pretend to discard will be Sharpton!

There are over 40 Million single mothers in America. In 2006, over $37 BILLION in back child support was owed to children in America. Statistics and life stories support what Senator Obama is stating. As a single mother who has NEVER received even a penny of child support, I can conclusivley say that it has caused a negative effect on my child’s quality of life. I see NOTHING wrong with anyone calling upon parents to accept responsibility for their children.
This message reverberates across lines of race, sex, age, and nationality. The quality of life of the children of America should be addressed by anyone and everyone in authority. Poverty is a cycle. Bravo to Senator Obama for having the gumption to address this issue. The reality of the situation is out there for anyone to look at, but only if they wish to see the situation of single-parenthood as it is.
Senator Obama’s church affiliation has nothing to do with the reality of this situation.

So, BHO identified a problem everyone knew existed. What’s he going to do about it besides talk?

Obama: Continuing to prove you can always fool a fool!

Lotsa folks need to stop expecting the government to support them with hand-outs. They need to get off their fat asses, stop making babies, get an education or get training, and start working for a living like the rest of us poor slobs have to do.

Is no “typical black man,” like is no “typical white man,” or “typical Hispanic woman” or whatever. Stereotypes are as damaging to those who live inside them as to all of us.
And about the New Yorker cover, will everyone just take a deep breath? Sheesh.

After 11 years as a politician, he just realized there is a problem. I guess, he didn’t learn this from his community organizer job.

Michelle, Lenyon and others: conservative white guy republican dad married to a sistah) shouting out from the suburbs here…first, I don’t support BHO for POTUS but I do agree with about half of anything he says and he does frustrate me less than does the guy I support…Clearly, then, he is, as some posters note, pandering to guys like me…hey, he’s a politician; do you expect him to have core beliefs other than getting elected???? Anyway, on social and educational issues I probably agree with 80% or more of what he says, given that his speeches sound about like the same things that my heroes Bill Bennett and Charles Murray have been saying for the last 25 years. Let’s go even further back than that–to 1964. That’s when D. Patrick Moynihan (henceforth DPM…remember him? Late Senator from NY, whose seat HRC (Hillary) was elected to fill?) Well, in ’64 DPM was a young liberal Harvard prof working as an advisor to LBJ. He put out a study, “The Negro Family: The Case for National Action,” that pointed out the then-alarming statistic that nearly 25% of black children were born to unmarried mothers. The figure rose to about 70% over the next 20 years and has hovered around there since. The overall illegitimacy rate was about 8% when DPM wrote that study; now it is over 30% (and over 40% for Hispanics). That’s not a good thing. Clearly, there has been by this measure broad-based deterioration in the social fabric in all communities, though among predominantly white communities the impact has been proportionally less severe…sure, the absolute numbers of illegitimate white births is higher but in terms of impact on whites as a whole–bad enough as it is–it’s not as catastrophic as the impact on restraining black progress in America. The result is that the social problems that accompany high illegitimacy rates among lower income people have persisted. BHO correctly aims to cut this Gordian knot by stimulating focus on the role that men need to play in raising children; some might say that “the village chiefs” in the motherland would have provided adequate guidance on this to keep the tribe together and avoid the present crisis…but get real, this is the 21st century and the US is for the most part a highly developed country, so the black community isn’t going to have its problems solved by the village chief anymore than Braveheart is going to be a source of advice on modern living for Americans of Scottish anscestry, so you’re stuck with BHO as your leader (especially if he wins the election). Let’s see if he takes it the next step and goes after the role of culture and government-driven economic disincentives by naming names, including the boards and executives of the record companies, BET, and any other company that consciously strives to make money from this rot.

As a nyc teacher, I must agree with Mr. Obama. Parents need to take more responsibility for their children especially their education. We have played the blame game for too long. It is time to sit down read with our kids and help them with their homework. We need to show them that education is more important than buying the lastest fashion.
I love my job, but it is made difficult by parents that do not follow through at home. I send children home with homework and 40% -50% of them come back the next day without it. It is the parents responsibility to make sure it gets done.
We need to take distractions (tv, cell phones, video games, etc.) away from the kids at least during the school days. Although every ethnic group faces challenges, we have the highest drop out rates and lowest test scores. As far as I am concerned, we in the black community are in crisis.
I became a teacher to elevate our community, but my job is impossible without parental support.

How about a little tough love for Elizabeth Hasselback. Is ABC becomming a platform for lying, right wing sleazebags to lie about Barack Obama’s record. Her ridiculous comments on the clip of the View I just watched were disgraceful.
ABC may as well hire a FOX news ‘pundit’. I guess the View is just a platform for John McBush’s talking points to spew from Hasselback’s mouth like political diarrhea.

Hey Q Pulpit, I agree…there should be no one on the View who doesn’t agree with anyone else on the View. Heck, this is the 21st century–it’s time that everyone agrees with everyone else on every issue so that we could all live in harmony and if there are any problems that need addressing we all just ignore them so that we can all agree that things are great!! Are you with me??

mia,
“hes half white and half black, couldn’t he be called white? ”
he is half african and half american black and white is a color..
You can chose a blood line to identify you such as Irish or German but you can not choose what color you are.
i know our country is so caught up with the “black and white” issue that we have – with out thinking about it- meshed the two together.. i catch myself doing it sometimes.

A Dad ,
sorry didnt see your comment until now.
i was born in 1978 so i didnt know that..
i just knew that i seen it all the time with people my age and younger and that its more common than not. But i guess that makes sense nothing happens over night.

hey alovinggrandma,
if you’re saying mccain is a politician and does as politicians do, i’m with you on that….but you’re deluded if you think obama isn’t also a politician. i can understand my teenaged daughter swooning over him but grown adults should know better. just take a look at all the shady characters he dealt with as an illinois state senator…BHO has only been in the US senate for less than three years…give him a full term before you start seeing the typical senate behavior kick in–he’s just getting warmed up!

I’m so tired of Obama and his condescending statements. Is Obama now the father of the year and can lecture others about how to parent? People need to stop feeding into this man’s ego!

Jim – Would you rather he tooks his children to a catholic church and allowed them be molested behind the altar?

It would be nice to see a debate between Obama and Jackson.

Sosickofit -
It is in fact not clear which one is worse, catholic molestation or Obama’s sending his children to spiritual molestation. Which one do you want to choose? Is that what you were asking? I suppose that was the kind of logic this phony has been teaching, or shall we say, deceiving you.
Who is fool enough to bite it?

let me say i agree with obama. the only reason i got right, was because i wanted to and i dedicated myself to being right and comfortable. I did it. no matter what america or society does, i believe most of the problem is self inflicted on ourselves. and we get upset whenanyone notices.

Cindy,
You are my hero for exhibiting the typical Obama supporters why they support him; “Obama, as a child, used to watch t.v. a lot. It was his father who advised him to turn it off and that obviously made an impression on him and I think that’s why he includes it in his speeches.”
For your information so you can make an informed decision behind the booth: Obama’s father cared less what he did. His father abandoned his mother and BhO, and left him to his typical white woman grandmother to raise him.

Many of the comments written here highlights the level of understanding and pure commonsense. Fact:There is a crisis in the black community. Fact: parents are neglecting their responsibilities and setting poor examples. Fact: Parents have all but given up on society and accept their place on the bottom rung of the ladder. Fact: Parents don’t even want to raise their heads to see that the possibilities exists for them to push their children up the ladder.
Senator Obama is RIGHT! RIGHT ON THE BUTTON! Black people need to get their act together, accept responsibility for themselves and stop complaining and start acting in a positive way.

Which is better candidate cheat on his wife or candidate ex drug user

What really bothers me about the Bush administration is the No Child Left Behind Act. I wouldn’t blow my nose on the paper that act is written on.
To require kids in IU-13 classes to pass the same standardized state tests as children with a normal mental capacity is ludicrous, ridiculous, and a pure and undiluted fallacy. What really needs to be done in this country is to provide an across-the-nation standard level of accountability for the TEACHERS. Hold them accountable for basic, fundamental teaching skills and philosophy, and if they don’t measure up, bring ones in out of college who will. To hold the teachers accountable is one small step in changing this country’s education system, as some of you have brought up.
Another step would be to provide government funding for schools that are out-dated, books that are out-dated, and class sizes that are far too large for the majority of students to get a good, solid education in. It’s proven: small class sizes are the key to educational success, along with a good work ethic and the desire to learn. Provide funding for the new books, crumbling and over-crowded schools, and you WILL see a turnaround in our country’s overall educational success.
As a side note, I find it ironic that McCain, who’s supposed to stick to the fundamental family values typical of the Republican party, cheated on his wife. If THAT isn’t something that defines his character, I don’t know what is.

Obama talks down to white people, so in all fairness it’s only right he makes talking down to black people a policy.
If Obama wants to give the African-American male lessons in behaviour, he should start with the lesson “how not to treat woman” and use examples from the sexist campaign he ran against Clinton.

So many of you seem to be fixated on Obama’s admitted drug use as a teenager. Did you have the same problem with Shurb’s Bush II’s coke and alcohol abuse? The latter went on well into his forties.

McCain graduated near the bottom of his class, is a warmonger, old and way too conservative for the country and the world. More of the same bull as Bush if you elect him. So what if he’s a war hero? Does that mean he has the intellectual capability to lead this country? NO! Same as the local firefighter hero. Should he be the major of your town because he was brave? NOT NECCESARILY!

Hooray for Obama. Standing up to losers of any color takes courage. Bkacks don’t like to hear from leaders who don’t pander to them. Nobody does. I hope he puts words into action. Lets start with people who come hear and can’t speak the language and attack every other group who will not adapt and fit in. This is the USA so dont come here if you want to retain the loser concepts from your nation of origin. From many one – lets get back to what works – American Pride – If Mexico and these other places are so great go home. Black kids and white kids need to learn the skills, language and courtesy that will help them move ahead. A few rich athletes, rap stars and movie stars get in our face on television and everyone wants to mimic their bad image. I am not an Obama supporter but respect andbody who tells it like it is. Many thanks

I don’t have a problem with what Barrak is saying, I have a problem with who he is saying it to. Personal responsablity or lack of it, is not just a black problem. It goes across racial lines. As I said before in my last post, the black community knows what the problems are that plague us.And we are working on it ( of course you’ll never see that thanks to the mainstream media ) Contrary to popular belief, not all black people are irresponsable. The message Barrak was preaching should go to all americans. Derelict and irresponsable parents come in all colors.

but it is ESPECIALLY so in the black community. there are many studies that have been done, not by msm, but by african american groups, that support this. Dr. Cosby has been talking about this for a while.
Barack should be able to talk to black men about this,
I do not understand why jesse is not more public about this.
i will be glad when we more from all of the talk, and start seeing some results of all that you say is going on in the community. because the majority of what i see, is young men, aspiring to the thug life.

Patriot
“because the majority of what i see, is young men, aspiring to the thug life.”
Thats my point the only thing you see about black america is negative. Thats not true. There are roadblock in that you will never see because you are white. say what you will or may they do exist. All i’m saying is look beyond what the press puts out. We are not all thugs and goons out to rape pillage and kill.

It’s true that African-American fathers need to be more involved. It’s also true that African-American men have to fight against stereotypes and bad perceptions of them that naturally erode their self-esteem and confidence, as well as make the world a less pleasant place for them to operate and try to be effective. For instance, when a white man becomes a father, he is supported, his job thinks, oh, he needs more money for his family, etc. African-Americans don’t receive that empathy, are expected to use whatever money they have.

Keith T. Gilbert, you wrote: “I don’t have a problem with what Barrak is saying, I have a problem with who he is saying it to. Personal responsablity or lack of it, is not just a black problem.” You concluded with: “The message Barrak was preaching should go to all americans. Derelict and irresponsable parents come in all colors.”
You are correct. HOWEVER when you have 70% of African-American children being born out of wedlock compared to 48% of Hispanic and 25% of white children being born out of wedlock, a “color neutral” message is simply not enough. The current African-American leadership has failed their community for far too long. They need new role models. Role models who don’t have to say, “Do as I say, and not as I do!”
While I may disagree with Sen. Obama on most issues, I applaud him for taking this issue head on and directing it specifically to the African-American community.

Beckie – I am confused. I thought presidential candidates had freedom of speech and the public want them to talk about every day issues along with foreign policy and economics. What did Obama say at the NAACP meeting that goes beyond what the public wants to know?

James Danley you wrote 70% of African-American children being born out of wedlock compared to 48% of Hispanic and 25% of white children being born out of wedlock, a “color neutral” message is simply not enough. The current African-American leadership has failed their community for far too long. They need new role models.
I question that statistic, are you telling me there are very few white children born out of wedlock, I don’t think so. our biggest problem in our community is how we identify ourselves. Everytime we turn the tv on or see ourselves in the news, it is never positive. There are plenty if strong black male role models out there, but they never get noticed. And when White america sees us all they see is the negative side which contributes to the negative image they already have of us. the solution to our problems can be fixed by us and us alone, But there are images that have to be combated by all that effect us (I’ll go into that at a later date) The solution is tricky, it’s not as easy as it sounds.
But there is somthing I do agree with you on Our so called African-American leadership has failed our community for far too long. we need new role models.

Keith T. Gilbert, you wrote: “I question that statistic, are you telling me there are very few white children born out of wedlock, I don’t think so.”
First of all, these statistics are from the National Center for Health Statistics. Secondly, I do not consider a 25% rate of children born out of wedlock as being “few.” In the early 1960s the rates of children born out of wedlock were 24% for African-Americans and 3% for whites. I, personally, would consider 3% still being too many children being born out of wedlock.
You may ask why the skyrocketing in illegitimate births in 40 years? There are a lot of reasons. There are dozens of books that have been written on the topic. And the Internet provides an incredible wealth of information on this topic.

Marcus, you wrote: “However, this is 100% not my fault.” Sorry, but it is 50% your fault, unless the two women were impregnated by in vitro fertilization.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I’m an Obama supporter and have been for quite some time now. However, over the course of the past month and a half I have noticed some troubling issues with my allegiance to his campaign going forward. Obama has made appearances in front of two Hispanic organizations; [NALEO-National Association for Latino Elected Officials] and the group [La Raza]. Obama has been so consumed with garnering the Hispanic votes that he’s been catering to these factions on behalf of illegal immigration and making sure they know he will pass comprehensive immigration reform. Promising these people one thing and [delivering] on that promise is something altogether different. While Americans are losing their homes, struggling to pay for gas, higher food costs and massive layoffs at major companies and airlines; how can Obama claim to help a population of people that aren’t even legal residents of this country? What the hell is he thinking? Seeing Americans standing outside of banks trying to get their savings from failed institutions and losing half of their money in these banks is frustrating and sad to see. What is Obama doing? Then Obama goes on this crusade throughout the African American community touting self responsibility, which I agree is need; but what about also sending that same message to Hispanic’s and illegal immigrants in this country. How dare he have this double standard? African Americans who had been supporting Obama pretty heavily in these past few months are becoming disillusioned with this sudden turn of policy from Obama. I personally was about to send him another campaign contribution but stopped when I started watching his pandering to Hispanics and their fight for illegal immigration. I will not send Obama another dime. I’ve watched him recently and he’s become a little too [smug] and [arrogant] with his inevitability status. Careful now, Hillary had that same air of inevitability and she’s home watching from the sidelines. In addition, why would I contribute to your campaign again and believe part of that money would go to pay off debts for a [failed campaign] by Mrs. Clinton. What are you thinking sir? I may end up supporting you with my vote, but I will not send you another dime. The illegal immigration pandering has really angered and frustrated allot people that I’ve spoken with recently. We are not amused…

Is there really hope for peaceful race relations in the USA, especially for harmony within the African American community when a leader like Jesse Jackson can spout such malicious KKK-type vitriol? The message of personal responsibility is certainly applicable to all and Obama’s message to black fathers should not be seen as picking on blacks as he spoke it to a mostly black audience. Obama is not perfect, but do we have to be so petty and vicious?
Let’s not forget that Obama was forced to choose between his two racial heritages due to ongoing racism. He is embraced by African Americans when it feels good and is “not black enough” when he is challenging – a little immature, isn’t it? The truth is he has every right to talk about absent black fathers; his own father was an absent black father. Furthermore, his message is in line with the messages of many esteemed black leaders who have called/ are calling for blacks to be more caring toward each other and to be more responsible, more empowered.
We need to forgive Jackson for his awful words and the sick spiritual space he must have entered to say them, but if there is to be healing and uplift for the great land of the United States, there needs to be much more love and goodwill, especially in how sound principles are upheld or denigrated. Yes, all politicians, including Obama, must embrace higher principles and emotions, however, when any politician espouses wholesome ideals mocking them does everyone a disservice. Instead, hold them to their high oratories and let it motivate all of us to reach for better paths.

I don’t need a preacher man for my president. I’m one of the majority in this country who are functional and far beyond the need of having a parent lecture me on how to be a responsible citizen. I take offense to a wannabe president talking down to me and my family. If this guy can’t take me from where I’m at and inspire, then he doesn’t represent me.

Obama is absolutely right!!!! I agree with everything that he is saying…and for those who are getting offended…you know what they say….IF YOU CANT TAKE THE HEAT THEN GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN!!!!…