Obama’s Iraq Quagmire

Keep dreaming, ABC.
Obama in a landslide ’08

Obama is simply a liar.

Call it what you want…wiggle room, flip-flop or just a young inexperienced man trying to learn as he goes along.
OBAMA made it clear and “pledged”, you know “promised” to his voters that he will “immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months.”
Now it is “when I go to Iraq and I have a chance to talk to some of the commanders on the ground, I’m sure I’ll have more information and will continue to refine my policies”. So he made the statements without consulting, verifying, talking, interviewing, meeting with or visiting Iraq. It just sounded good to win him votes.
Now remember he keeps saying he is “consistent throughout this process”. He has NEVER been consistent on any topic so far to date. He is playing the voters as he goes along. They will hear something and stick with it as OBAMA said. Good strategy for OBAMA, bad for America.

To the person that said “Obama is not flip-flopping, he’s just clarifying his platform on Iraq. That just isn’t so my friend. He stated very clearly to everyone that he would begin bringing home the troops immediately. He could have been truthful and said he will have to talk with the generals and find out what is going on and base his policies on this approach, but he did not. He stated he would start bring the troops home immediately–he lied and took this approach to win votes.

He’s going to look at ALL of the facts and THEN make a decision.
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Well he shudda done that BEFORE he made a reckless promise!

Susan Rice, Obama’s foreign policy advisor said several months ago that Obama would not be held to anything said on the campaign trail with regards to a timeline for getting troops out of Iraq. It’s all politics with Obama. Nothing more. The man has absolutely no qualms about lying in order to win votes. Frankly the flipflop label is too nice for him – bald faced liar is much more accurate.

Biden stood on the stage with all of the Democratic candidates and made it clear that none of them were shooting straight about an Iraq withdrawal. Any good logistician knew what Biden was saying was true. That was one of the reasons for mainstream Democratic outrage with Obama’s insistence on the rightness of what he was claiming for his qualifications and intent.
Well, you know what? They were right to be outraged. The Dems are on a death march but they did it to themselves jiggering the election rules to make Obama the inevitable nominee.
Let’s see how Axelrod spins this.

Sooooo…….
Obama wants to be as careful getting out as Bush was careless getting in….And the conservative-slanted MSM, driven by McCain’s talking points and McCain’s talking points only, wants to tell us this is a bad thing?

McCain is the flip-flopper…
* First he’s for public financing, then he’s against it shows he’s against it by breaking the law.
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but later decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks. (Indeed, McCain has now hired Falwell’s debate coach.)
* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.
* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June, he abandoned his own legislation.
* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.
* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.
* McCain gave up on his signature policy issue, campaign-finance reform, and won’t back the same provision he sponsored just a couple of years ago.
* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.
* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
* And now he’s both for and against overturning Roe v. Wade.

Obama’s position sounds more sensible. Going into the Presidency with a hard-set withdrawal could harm our troops and harm the innocent civilians of Iraq.
While this may be (at worst) a slight shift in his position, it’s a smart one. Much like the public financing decision.

We will see he will change his mind all his promises during the election if he is elected. I don’t believe in him from day one. I’m disappointed DNC and superdelegates chose the wrong candidate to beat McCain.

And WHAT exactly is George W McCain’s plan in Iraq?
I forgot…did he say he wanted to stay there 100…or was it 1,000 years?
And someone remind me…exactly WHY we’re in Iraq?
I forgot if it was “Weapons of Mass Destruction” or the other one after that tanked…”Getting Rid of Saddam Hussein”.

This is ridiculous. If he’s inflexible he’s Bush. If he thinks that plans should be adjusted to fit the circumstances as circumstances change, he’s a flip-flopper. So the future President wants to base his judgement on the facts as they are now after he talks to the generals on ground? Heaven forbid!

Anybody here actually SEE his press conference?
He says he’ll do what he’s always said he’ll do…get out of Iraq as soon as possible AS LONG AS OUR TROOPS ARE SAFE DOING IT, IRAQ IS STABLE, AND OUR SECURITY IS PROTECTED.
Sixteen months is what the generals say will work…but if that changes…he’ll look at it and then decide.
Sounds intelligent to me.
Sorry folks…there’s no story here. Move along now.

Don’t blame me, I voted for Hillary.
Posted by: A reader in Georgia
Same here. Can’t be blamed for these 2 fools.

Obama will say anything to get elected just like your average politician.

One of the biggest problems over the last 8 years is the dogmatic approach of our politicians, Republican , and Democrat, have taken.
Sorry right wing Republicans, that Obama keeps taking away your ammo, and sorry you left wing Democrats that Obama is not what you expect.
The truth be told, no one can know what McCain or Obama will do in the end.

McCain has NO plan.
somebody ask him…”what is your plan John McCain?”
wait and see? with no plan…
a halh hearted attempt to get them to handle it themselves…
you know…that civil war that has been going on for hundreds upon hundreds of years…

When Obama become president he will rule this country like where his ancestor, Africa.

dl, you’re confusing the economy pre democrat takeover with the Clinton era where it WAS a bubble.
Catch up.

Jo
your an idiot…if you think the bubble from the Clinton’s is the bubble that caussed this…
the realty market grew through almost all of Bush’s plans…no oversight of banks and mortgage lenders…
and now with the looming gas crunch coming for a long time…the bush and cheney republicans sided with the oil compnaies…because guess what?
as the country suffers the oils companies are making more money than ever…
and this will continue…
instead of saying to the oil companies…
drill in the places (that have lots of oil…maybe not as clean and cheap as they want to continue their record profits…but it’s there) …drill in the millions of acres we have already given you…or we will whack you with the profits tax and take the proceeds to the car companies r&d to get us off this continental drug…
the list goes on…healthcare…
failing infrastructure…
borrowing from china…
continue bandaiding with lowering the dollar…
get a clue please.

this is not going to be the thing that breaks Obama…
it will be the thing that breaks the RNC who sided with one directive Bush…
he is not changing the goal…he is changing the plan.
that’s what good presidents do.
morons don’t.
morons don’t have a plan…
they just occupy a country and don’t worry how long we will be spending trillions and lives.

lolololol So Obama is migrating to the middle and is going to change his promise about bringing troops home as soon as he said he would! Well, isn’t that interesting! Hillary supporters have said all along that they were basically thinking the same way and Obama’s camp tried to present their views on IrAq and other agenda as having the Holy Grail to solve everything! And, Obama supporters just kept lapping up the drool he shoved out to them. He is so PREDICTABLE and somehow spins a yarn and hs followers think he is the greated thing since sliced bread! What a joke! I hope his campaign bottoms out and he losses big time in November! So, tell me now, what do you young draft age voters think of your fearless leader now?

jackdoggies@yahoo.com
I think he’s great…
he has a goal of getting them home…16 months…
the plan may change but that’s his goal…
what’s Mccain’s goal.
morons don’t adapt…
morons occupy a country …insite AIPAC to Iran…the same way they did for Iraq…to get us to go in…
and hope the rest will work itself out…
with absolutely NO plan…
oh besides going to war with iran.

this is not surprising. long been predicted by the repubs. Obama is an unknown but his flip-flopper is a known quality of his character. Who can predict what is the next issue he will “change”?

July 3 Obama Iraq Update:
Obama “backed off his firm promise to withdraw combat forces from Iraq immediately and instead said he could “refine” his plan after his trip to Baghdad later this month”.
“[S]enator is not “wedded” to a specific timeline”.
“Obama later said at a second news conference he still intends to stick to the timeline.”
“The original Obama plan, still on his website, promises: “Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months.”” ?
Flip-flop-flip-flop, say anything to get elected.
Is anyone paying attention to the metamorphosis from the candidate who pledged to eschew politics as usual into an ordinary pol with weekly positions on every fundamental issue?

if flip-flop means having a strong goal with peripheral vision…
that is what he promised in NH.
He has always said the goal is 16 months.
but a President who does not adapt as we move forward is…
Bush.

Obama Knows the people are dumb, look how many are following him on hope and believe.
The Man stands for nothing, He changes his polices like people change their underware.
Past few weeks he Took Hillarys Universal Healt Care. He took bushs eviro. plan. Bush’s religious plan.
Will He go the whole way with Bushs war plan.
He is suppose to ask people to join the military service in his new speech.
Can he talk his followers into that.
The anti-war activist to Recruiter

This guy has taken their lunch money and they can’t admit they’ve been rooked. Now they’re going to defend his newfound love for the Iraq War.
Democrats will support any war that is waged by a Democratic President.

here is the transcript from Meet the Press … way back when…
this is what Obama has said consistently…
per the NBC website…
MR. RUSSERT: Will you pledge that by January 2013, the end of your first term more than five years from now, there will be no U.S. troops in Iraq?
SEN. OBAMA: I think it’s hard to project four years from now, and I think it would be irresponsible. We don’t know what contingency will be out there.
What I can promise is that if there are still troops in Iraq when I take office, which it appears there may be unless we can get some of our Republican colleagues to change their mind and cut off funding without a timetable, if there’s no timetable, then I will drastically reduce our presence there to the mission of protecting our embassy, protecting our civilians and making sure that we’re carrying out counterterrorism activities there.
I believe that we should have all our troops out by 2013, but I don’t want to make promises not knowing what the situation’s going to be three or four years out.
I saw Obama say this many times in NH…as many times as McCain was threatening Iran.

Of course Obama is going to flip on Iraq – his early analysis on Iraq was based upon his typical lib positions. Now that he is getting some practical advice, PERHAPS in some way he is coming to understand that Iraq is only PART of the bigger picture in the middle – east. A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX THAN HE THOUGHT! THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A PLACE FOR AN INTERNSHIP!! OBAMA DOES NOT HAVE THE BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE FOR THE PRESIDENCY. HIS NEED TO FLIP ON THIS ISSUE CLEARLY SHOWS THAT!!

changing your mind on something due to changing facts makes you very wise——not changing makes you a very narrow minded self certered idiot—or just plain old and senile

You know his motto is: “Change you can believe in!”. It should read: “I’m going to change, you can believe it!”

Heywood U. Reedmore
you obviously have not read that our infrastructure is failing and there hasn’t been a serious investment in years… their have been people in various departments of BUSH’s OWN administration that have been sounding those alarm bells…
as well as economists who are saying if you think oil is bad watch what happens if we don’t do something about the infrastructure of this country in the next ten years…
meanwhile McCain wants to take states moneys away from that infrastructure to give people 30 bucks for three months…
and why don’t you read something about the acreage that the oil companies asked for and we gave them.
There is oil there…why don’t they say that it’s worth it because it is not going to keep there profit levels at the records they have seen.
I know I know say something you think is witty…quick.
facts are facts do a little research.

simple solution in iraq—–pull out in a year and let isreal deal with iran.

Obama says, “I am for it while I am against it.”

rODNEY..
“changing your mind on something due to changing facts makes you very wise”
Then I guess Senator McCain is very very wise…… AND experienced.!
A good package to vote for!

Would you rather he say “I don’t care what the generals say from the ground, the troops are leaving within the first 16 months of my presidency”
There will be a withdrawal but it must be consistent with what the generals are saying from the ground. This is not a flip-flop. It’s being practical and responsible.

Obama will Flip-Flop himself into oblivion.
McCain will be president in November while Obama will wind up nothing more than a Trivial Pursuit question once the elections are wrapped up!

This July 4th We give a shout out to not only our Troops in Iraq, but also the 29,978 US wounded and Over 40,000 to 70,000 are with post traumatic stress, many who will be marching in Tomorrows Fourth of July parades arcross the country.
I wanted to share this -
Obama says America’s veterans deserve better. Posted by Scott Helman, Political Reporter.
In a speech in Fargo, N.D., Obama touted his work in the Senate on veterans issues and pledged to do better by them if he becomes president. He reiterated earlier vows to improve the Veterans Affairs system with more funding, end homelessness among veterans, and pay appropriate attention to Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, or PTSD.
Honoring American ideals, Obama said, “requires more than saluting our veterans as they march by in a 4th of July parade. It requires only sending them to war when we must, and giving them the equipment they need to complete their mission safely. It requires giving them the care and benefits they have earned. And it requires standing shoulder-to-shoulder with our veterans and their families after the guns fall silent and the cameras are turned off.”
Obama cited what he called “deplorable conditions” at military facilities such as Fort Bragg and Walter Reed, and the “broken bureaucracy of the VA.”
“It doesn’t have to be this way. Not in this country,” he said, according to prepared remarks. “There are many aspects of the war in Iraq that have gone inalterably wrong, but caring for our veterans is one thing we can still get right.”

Actually dl, Obama initially said he’d have all the troops out within one year – then moved it back to 16-18 months, now he won’t be held to a timeline, tomorrow… your guess is as good as mine.

hoosiersue
he is not fliflopping…show me a statement out of his mouth that is not consistent with what he is saying.
You listen to half of his sentences…and then say oh… he’s flip-flopping…
no
again go look at every video /soundbite on him talking about Iraq…
he has said the same thing…
what happened was the press (especially ABC and Fox…NBC and CNN say that these statements were consistent with what he has said in the past duh) jumped on his first statement because he did not say 16 months…kind of like they did with that stupid”ignore the kids fist bump malarkey”…
and so he cam back out and said…I am still planning on getting them out in 16 months….
but as I have always said I will listen to how to do that from the people on the ground… he has consistently said this was not a promise to remove them in 16 months…that would be stupid and “irresponsible”…his words.

I watched Obama’s press conferences today. His policy has not changed. The only people saying they have are the press, who function like a herd. If one reporter breathlessly leads with “Obama is changing his policy,” they all scramble to follow so they won’t be scooped.
Those of you who say you support Obama but are getting tired of reading that he has changed his views better start complaining to the press, because they are the ones who cannot be trusted to tell you the truth.
The press theme in 2000 was Al Gore was a liar who made stuff up about himself.
It turnmed out the press made most of the stories up, not Gore. When the real lying started by Bush, the press rolled over and played dead. Now 4,000 plus American soldiers are dead.
The press theme in 2004 was Kerry is a flip flopper, Now they are so lazy they cannot even be clever enough to come up with a new theme. So they are combining 2000 and 2004. If they cannot find a real flip flop they will invent one. That is what Obama’s “changing” Iraqw policy is all about.
Meanwhile, the Republican candidate flat out lies and the media ignores it.
Check out how ABC ignored John McCain lying about statements he made about his lack of expertise on the economy.
He told his lie on their network and they ignored it.

HoosierSue he has said 16 months since he was campaigning in NH.
He has said over and over 16 months with advice and taking a look at the status quo.
Go read a statement…over and over he has said this for a year.
but lets go back a year and a half and not change a plan…oh that’s right that would be Bush…and now McCain
the only 2 reasons the sons of iraq joined up was because obama said we were leaving and they know a change is coming as reported by several people on the ground including reporters like richard Engel…
and they have been promised positions with power and money…
of course there are only 1 of those position to every three sons of iraq that signed up…
so tell me what do you think is McCain’s plan.
Obama’s has stayed consistent…16 months is the goal…and actually listen…but unlike McCain
the goal is to get US money and soldiers back to the US…
McCain doesn’t worry about that as much as going to war with Iran.
Which he has hinted at and talked about almost as much as obama has said 16 months with change of pace depending on the ground.
but you keep fighting that really smart fight and spin half sentences and unformulated plans…from before he started running. lol

Obama had said on multiple occasions that if the generals told him we needed to stay in Iraq, he would not let that change his policies because “the President sets the mission.” Before he said he’d listen to them for advice on tactics on how best to withdraw our forces. Now he’s saying he’ll listen to the generals and revise his policies. He’s not exactly backtracking on his withdrawal policy (yet?) but he definitely seems to be creating the space to do so later.

Heywood U. Reedmore
did you read the quote from the Russert questions…those are the same from the cnn questions almost word for word…
it is the same thing I have heard him say over and over.
what happened was he said he is still working on the plan…
the press jumped all over it because they took that as he was changing the 16 month goal…
he had to come back out but articles like the one above went to print…
and say…”I am still planning on 16 months”
but also that he has ALWAYS said and I have heard him in many rooms say the same thing whether it be a living room in Exeter nH or a gym at a middle school in Hampton or a coffeehouse in Portsmouth…
the same thing…he will not promise 16 months…but that is his goal and he has not seen anything that changes that YET.
He said that in the spring of 2007.
He said that on the Russert question.
he has said that over and over

Rick Klein, in this blog, reports this:
“There will be only one relevant question now out of Obama’s trip now: Do you stand by your plan? Obama is unlikely to give a direct, yes-or-no answer — and that’s where Sen. John McCain and his allies can and will pounce.”
He will say I stand by my goal and yes…I plan on taking out troops one or two brigades at a time”
Just as he said today.
and then the press I would hope turn to McCain and say “what is your plan?”
and his plan will have nothing about getting us out.

Barack Obama was saying things about Iraq when he hadn’t been there for over 14 months. Now he wnats to wait until after his Iraq visit to change his position? It was the McCain camp who made it an issue for Obama to visit Iraq. Now that he is changign his position on keepign the troops in, I’m happy. The surge is working. Both Barack Obama and George Bush was against the surge. It’s great that Bush decided to suppor MCain and go ahead with the surge. Barack Obama is not only a typical politician, he is an Impressionist.

It’s not really fair to hold BO to anything regarding Iraq at this point.
1 – The entire Iraq issue is an intangible issue to him. To-date, he’s talking ‘in theory’.
2 – HRC isn’t around for him to copy from.
3 – The teleprompters may have been mal-functioning earlier when he made his comments in ND.

eyes wide open – What papers?

I feel as if I have been “bait and switched” by Obama. During the primaries, I actually believed he was not your “typical” politician, but he will say and do whatever it takes to get elected.
His about face on Iraq is all the proof I need. He promised public financing to get special interests out of politics and he turned on that; he said NAFTA was wrong and now he has backed away from that stand; he was a supporter of the DC gun ban now he says it was a mistake, and today he said mental health should not be a reason for abortion even though he voted for mental health exceptions as a senator.
Enough – I am bummed but I am now voting for the only “honest” candidate.
Go Nader 2008

“eyes wide open – funny! You’re making this up and you know it. Get real Buster.
Posted by: Aston | Jul 3, 2008 9:41:10 PM
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Aston,
I hope you’re not depending on these blogs for enlightenment about your candidate!
Granted, there are some great posters for both candidates around…. but they’re few and far between… and mostly saddled with a tad of of opinionism one way or the other.
The papers arer opinionated, too, which is why you should try to read as many asa you can.
That’s why we have libraries!,,, in addition to wet deliveries!

Yes Mary, vote for Nader like so many did in 2000. We have the dead American soldiers in Iraq to remind us why we need to keep our politicians pure.

“There will be only one relevant question now out of Obama’s trip now: Do you stand by your plan? Obama is unlikely to give a direct, yes-or-no answer — and that’s where Sen. John McCain and his allies can and will pounce.” Rick Klein.
Wow. What a clever clairvoyant man ABC has working for them. So humble too.
Maybe we should get Mr. Klein to tell us now how the whole November thingy will turn out so we can save time and work on our Import-Export business with Colombia.

Nan, my Dad drove a 61 Pontiac Tempest and bought me a Corvair. I’m still alive and Ralph Nader has not accomplished a single thing since he got those models off the road.
Yes, Obama will bring the troops home before Nader. He will do it before Nader gets 3% of the vote on his sixth or seventh attempt to bring back the attention he once had when he was relevant.

ricky
we need to make a few more corvairs will give nader something to do

i still think we should get out of iraq in a timely manner——give israel what they need and let them deal with iran—they are very good at doing so—-had to for many years

scotty —-remember it is republicans that got us into the iraq mess.

So ummm.. how about an update? Since, you know, there was that second press conference and all? No? Journalists try to hide it when they jump the gun and the candidate calls them on it, don’t they?

Win or lose, Obama is condescending. All he does is say “let me be perfectly clear” when he shifts his position 45 degrees or so. Too clever by half in my book.
This time he admonished, “let’s try this again” as if people were just too dense to get his nuanced position.

Wow… the media is getting duped by the RNC and the McCain campaign. The RNC’s distorted talking points are being written on verbatim. The media has been in John McCain’s pocket for a long time now. It’s no surprise, after all, you guys are his base. You shameful cowards should start doing some reporting, instead of using RNC talking points as facts.

What was that about Obama’s “Judgment to Lead”
If Obama had such good judgment he would have judged the surge would work and he should have had the judgment to figure it out LONG ago.
McCain was one of the first to suggest the surge and deemed we needed to stay the course after the surge had begun. We are now on the verge of VICTORY, in part it is due to McCain’s judgment and dispite of Obama’s LACK of judgment!
McCain is the only one in this race that has the “Judgment to Lead”.

I equate Obama’s judgement about the same as Rene Marie’s – who was supposed to sing The National Anthem in Denver, instead sang The Black National Anthem just because she wanted to express her feelings about being a black woman in America.

Hope to God you don’t delete this:
This guy got you blinded by his white teeth and smoothess. How can we stomach four years of this flip flopping? If this is not a sign I don’t know what is. The next thing he is gonna come up with is that the Republicans are putting words in my mouth! And the sad thing is you’re gonna believe that too.
This guy IS UNSTABLE. How is he going to fight hard for issues that he’s not even sure he wants to keep Promises, promises, promises! Weak promises how are thy going to hold faced with an unfriendly congress. (No press no voters) It’s a lonely place up there. Do you think he’s got the experience to fight for the like warm issues that are not even sure about. You better wake up soon. Come on you people. Get I grip. I give him credit for trying to divide this countryfor his own agenda. That’s what I give him credit for.
He is not the one to do us proud this time. We should wait for the right guy or gal.Or, are we that desperate because he is part white and he is our half chance? Heh! Ok the truth now.
I say no. We have 250 years of history. With men and women who walked the walk and talked thThis guy got you blinded by his white teeth. How can we stomach four years of this flip flopping? If this is not a sign I don’t know what is. The next thing he is gonna come up with is that the Republicans are putting words in my mouth! And the sad thing is you’re gonna believe that too.
This guy IS UNSTABLE. How is he going to fight hard for issues that he’s not even sure he wants to keep. Promises, promises, promises! You better wake up soon. Come on you people.
He is not the one to do us proud this time.We should wait for the right guy or gal. Or are we that desperate because he is part white and he is our half chance? Heh!
I say no. We have 250 years of history with men and women who walked the walk and talked the talk.
I say let’s wait for Condoleezza Rice. She encompasses everything. SHE is the ONE. She is lot smarter than him. You better believe it.
He’s maybe pretty and all but he still needs a lot of character grooming, and senatorial experience.
First off Senator you don’t treat voters like commodities. and the 50 States like Real Estates. This the United States of America. It needs a leader. NOT a broker not a Real Estates investor. A plain good well rounded leader. He surrounded himself with everybody wanting a piece of the action and they all are clobbering the voters.
Hope to God you guys don’t delete this..
I say let’s wait for Condoleezza Rice. She encompasses everything. SHE is the ONE. She is lot smarter than him. You better believe it. Don’t blame the administration on her now she had enough on her plate. She is well respected in all Europe and the Middle East. She is the iron Lady
He’s maybe pretty and all but he still needs a lot of character grooming, and senetorial experience.
First off Senetor you don’t treat voters like commodities. and the 50 States like Real Estates.This the United States of America. It needs a leader. NOt a broker not Real Estates investor.A plain good well rounded leader. He surrounde himself witheverybody wanting a piece of the action and they all are clobbering the voters.
Hope to God you guys don’t delete this.

Hey Cindy – they can always use Rene Marie to keep the race issue humming along.

I miss Hillary. Now we’ve got two REALLY bad candidates to choose from. Thanks Moveon.org! I hope you guys feel used! Obama.. no experience, flip flopper, to liberal.. and McCain.. old as dirt, a GOPer that will continue the Bush era of disaster, knows nothing about economics.
Geez, which of these fools do you vote for? Can I have a door #3? Maybe I’ll just write Hillary in.

This latest chapter in “The Obama Flip-Flops” is one that will haunt his campaign drastically until November. Obama has flat-out lied to America about his stance on Iraq by promising them, not refining, that he would begin bringing the troops home immdediately. Now, he said this without visiting Iraq, consulting General Patreus, or any other official’s expertise on the war. This just goes to show that Obama has and is pandering for votes all along, he says what he thinks America wants to hear, and then when they are hooked, he reels them in to be netted in his lies and uncertainty. McCain, on the other hand, is now stating and has always stated that there is no way the troops would be brought home immediately. Obama supporters, say what you want, but McCain took a stand on Iraq and continues to support his stand. Obama, on the other hand, the ultimate flip-flopper has not idea what Iraq is about. This latest chapter in Obama’s campaign will hurt him more than you think. Spin it anyway you want, but he’s not fooling America anymore with his pandering and lies!

Obama flip flops and lie about it.He say he is a christian and he want all christians to vote for him, but in his book he wrote that if the political wind gets ugly, he will side with the muslims.He thinks we are all fools?

Hey Rick…
Why no update? Why no correction? You got this way wrong. But don’t feel bad, so did most mainstream news outlets. But to absolutely fail to correct your reporting is malpractice.

The only difference is that Imelda had one right shoe for every left shoe….
Posted by: landlines | Jul 4, 2008 1:10:57 AM
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Well Bo has his days too, some days he is way left(wears both left shoes). Some days he is waY right (wears both right shoes) JUST KEEP AND EYE ON HIS SHUFFELIN FEET!
MOST days he is in flip flops!!!

Obama Erasing Rationale For His Candidacy?

Obama fuels debate on Iraq pullout with his remarks from the New York Times reports on Senator Barack Obama’s efforts to refine his approach concerning Iraq – given that there have been positive reports from such unlikely sources as the

So which one of Bush’s “failed policies” is gun-loving-faith-based-wire-tapping-free-trade-no-withdrawl-without-victory-Obama going to change? Oh, that’s right: no new oil, and much higher taxes. Change we can believe in, I’d say.

You people keep talking about dead american soldiers in Iraq. While one to too many, I wish to remind you of all the democratic presidents that started wars.
WWI – Wilson
WWII – Roosevelt
Korea – Truman over 50,000 dead
Vietnam – Johnson over 57,000 dead
What was accomplished in Vietnam and Korea? American troops are still in the Phillipines and Cuba since the Spanish-American War, in Europe since WWII etc. Saw Ted Koppel on one of the Sunday programs. He said that there will be over 80,000 troops in Iraq from at least 6 more years and Obama has known that from the beginning.

“And it increases the likelihood that his trip to Iraq later this month will not turn out like Obama wants it to.”
Barack Obama just wanted to inform a future meeting with General Petraeus when he said “to talk to some of the commanders on the ground”.
This win-win move is designed to stop the criticism by the McCain camp and conservatives claiming the so call “willingness to meet Iran President” while he (Obama) has not met the US commander in Iraq the last 2 years.

Obama doesnt seem to understand that we didn’t care about him as a person, we cared about his ideas. Now that they have completely changed, I just feel regret, because I now don’t care about Obama at all, and realize I should have voted for Hillary.
I made a mistake, so I apologize Hillary supporters. I let my idealism run away with me, again.