Obama’s Prayer Excavated from Cracks of Western Wall and Published in Newspaper
There are conversations between a man and his wife, a patient and his doctor, a client and his attorney… But this is about as intrusive as it gets.
After Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, left a written prayer in the cracks of the Western Wall in Jerusalem, a Jewish seminary student dug it out and the newspaper Ma’ariv published it (assuming of course that the note is the correct one).
The note Ma’ariv published — written on stationery from the King David Hotel, where Obama stayed — states: "Lord – Protect my family and me. Forgive me my sins, and help me guard against pride and despair. Give me the wisdom to do what is right and just. And make me an instrument of your will."
Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovitz, the rabbi of the Wall who accompanied Obama on his visit there told Israeli Army Radio, per the AP, that "the notes placed between the stones of the Western Wall are between a person and his maker. It is forbidden to read them or make any use of them." Ma’ariv’s decision to publish the note "damages the Western Wall and damages the personal, deep part of every one of us that we keep to ourselves," he said.
On his plane Thursday morning Obama declined to tell reporters what he had asked of the Lord in his note.
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Interesting, Jake, that you brought up doctor/patient confidentiality. Since McCain’s medical records have been scrutinized at the insistence of liberals, then I guess Obama’s prayer note is fair game as well. While I wouldn’t have dug out the note or published it, you have to give those Israelis credit for being both curious and transparent. Too bad Obama didn’t stuff his birth certificate in the wall!
Posted by: marylou | July 25, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
wow
these first comments and Ma’Ariv’s actions are only going to make more people vote for Obama.
ugh
Posted by: dl | July 25, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Never mind the hater-players.
God Bless Barack Obama! As President, he will make this nation proud!
Posted by: jefferson | July 25, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
and Marylou
the difference is McCain’s medical records are scientific facts about his ability to lead …given in a copy… and asked for.
they aren’t stolen.
Posted by: dl | July 25, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Speaking of medical records, has HE released them? Last I heard all that had been released was a “letter of health” from HIS doctor. McCain has fully released his if I am not mistaken.
Posted by: smith | July 25, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Agreed that this is an outrageous invasion of privacy .
Posted by: The Gentle Cricket | July 25, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
AIPAC can’t be happpy about this
and wasn’t this the same paper that printed that really bad cartoon (yes one of the sole outwardly racist spots of this campaign…not talking some “jesse Jackson won in the state stupidity” it was worse)
Posted by: dl | July 25, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
glad to see he said a prayer for america and the american people.
Posted by: lisa | July 25, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
McCain has fully released his if I am not mistaken.
Posted by: smith | Jul
********************************************** McCain has refused to release his mental health records.
Posted by: Truth Matters | July 25, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
What a great president and a leader of this great national Obama will make. I am so proud of him after his speech yesterday, it is never about him, it is always about US, the people of the world, he just wants to help us achieve peace and greatness. The same thing that God wants from us all. To love your neighbors and be your best daily.
Posted by: becky | July 25, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
I am not an obama supporter but it’s not cool to do that to someone.
Posted by: rachel | July 25, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Obama should have left a note chastizing whoever would be so arrogant that they could believe that they had the right to read something meant to be between a person and his Maker.
And what could possible be the reason other than political. I am disgusted with these people who have no respect for others.
Posted by: Truth Matters | July 25, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Jake,
Could you write about he Pentagon playing politics with the troop visit thing yesterday at Germany base. Look at politico’s Martin piece on his blog.
Basically, the pentagon first cleared his visit then told him he couldn’t visit there unless it was as a ‘senator.’ Perhaps to embarass him. This is the Bush Pentagon, afterall.
Posted by: David | July 25, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Lisa, we’re critiquing his prayers now? Sheesh.
Posted by: obamamama | July 25, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
His medical records are our buisness, his prayers are not. This *student* who took the Senator’s prayer from the wall has so much to learn.I don’t blame him for not commenting. How rude.
Posted by: -UA- | July 25, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
I’m less upset about what it does to Obama than as to what it does to the people who go and leave their prayers at that wall.
Not only Obama but the actual sanctuary was kind of …actually, it was violated.
I would guess the student …probably not a “student” anymore.
Posted by: dl | July 25, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
The seminary student who dug out this very personal note should be disciplined and Maariv should be ashamed for publishing the note. It was a private note between a man and his God.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | July 25, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Some people seem to amaze me and for all of you bashing obama for this trip claming hes not president yet well what about mccain and his trip to canada, mexico, and colombia discussing nafta and our jobs i dont recall him being president yet some people have nerve!!!!!
Posted by: angie | July 25, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Apparently truth does not matter but spin does. The question was a simple one…has HE released his medical records? Instead of answering Truth seeks to obfuscate.
Posted by: smith | July 25, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Doesn’t really matter what Obama wrote on that note because, as I understand it, God was at the Cards/Brewers game last night, at the request of a few of the players.
Posted by: DKNY | July 25, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
I wish I could say I was surprised to see a number of people who agree with this action just because they don’t like the guy.
What is wrong with a world that makes an industry of invading others’ privacy?
Re: health records: McCain is old, and since older people are more likely to have more serious problems (cancer, Alzheimers, etc.), it is his burden to show that he hasn’t had those problems and/or is in good health otherwise. A younger man like Obama has far fewer problems that warranty being made public. If there were any and they weren’t disclosed, that would be bad. But do we have any reason to believe that his doctor would lie?
Besides, I’d really like to see the mental health records of John McCain, given the reports about his temper and forgetfulness.
Posted by: Nick B | July 25, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Another publicity stunt by team Obama. The lead story this morning was McCain was closing the gap in the polls so team Obama reaches for pity votes by writing this mush. Poor guy, can’t even write to God without someone leaking it to the press. Come on people, think about it. This guy has more tricks up his sleeve I’m quite sure. The best trick so far has been his ability to take both sides of several issues, i.e. gun control, warrantless wiretapping bill, etc.
Posted by: Thomas - citizen of the world | July 25, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
I’m not an Obama fan, as regular readers/poster are well aware, but this was far over the line. Both in terms of Obama’s privacy and the sancity of the Wall.
Posted by: Charlie35 | July 25, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Can I just make one off the subject remark Jake…
I saw John Mccain more yesterday than I saw Obama.
Seems calling out the refs is working for him. Obama speaks to 200,000 people in Germany…challenges them to help us in Afghanistan and Iraq…
…Mccain visits a bratwurst shop and complains about obama…and he is on the MSM all over the place as if he said something of value…
Literally everyone may have lead the evening news with Obama speaking to this gigantic crowd which speaks to our standing overseas…
and yet Mccain is supposed to get equal air time…
sorry but Obama didn’t pay the 200, 000 people to come to that rally…so I am not sure why the news is again bending over backward to look unbiased.
On top of that…every report is nit picking any negative they can grab out of what happened… as if what Obama did was wrong.
The refs need to see when they are being manipulated again.
Posted by: dl | July 25, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
I’m not an Obama fan, as regular readers/poster are well aware, but this was far over the line. Both in terms of Obama’s privacy and the sancity of the Wall.
Rats! Knew that didn’t look right when I typed it. SANCTITY is what it should have been.
Posted by: Charlie35 | July 25, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
This is a bit intrusive.
Posted by: Ben Straub | July 25, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
What is truly remarkable and scandalous about this story is that a very smart man, Barack Obama, who will be our next President, seems actually to believe that writing a note to some fictional character and stuffing that note into a pile of concrete may actually result in his receiving some form of guidance or protection from said fictional character. It is beyond comprehension that people still seem to believe this hokum.
I visited the same wall a number of years ago and smushed a note (King David Hotel stationary; proceed to the front of the line, young man!) requesting bigger biceps into that same pile of concrete, yet hear I sit, these many years later, as scrawny as ever. God, why have you forsaken me!!
Posted by: DKNY | July 25, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
This is so sad that there is no privacy even in prayer.
That kid ought to be ashamed of himself.
Posted by: Rhoda | July 25, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
That shoud be “here,” not “hear.” God, have you forsaken me again?
Posted by: DKNY | July 25, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Jake I for one am glad you reprinted his note.
I am disgusted bothered by the paper that originally printed it…but considering some of the scommenters on here would take it and spin it…
I can hear it now…
“why can’t we hear what the prayer was” “he’s upset because he prayed to allah”
He wrote a note to OBL”
so thank you for printing the note…
It is sad that you need to do that but it’s sadder that everything Obama does gets spun by the whack jobs who lose on the facts of the election so make tons off crap up about a guy who just called on bringing our allies back to our side…
but yet they even want to trash that.
Posted by: dl | July 25, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
These people (fat cats/ corporate and political alike) will stop at nothing to prevent a labor friendly candidate from becoming president. Don’t be fooled, the FAT CATS will keep you uninformed and divided to push their own agenda. You are the reason America is great yet you are told you whine and don’t work hard enough. You deserve better! Orginize within your owm communities and stop the fat cats that want us (working Americans, no matter what your gender or race) to be at each others throats over bull****. Don’t be fooled, don’t take your eye off the ball for 1 nanosecond because they will continue to rob you blind. Come on America YOU DESERVE BETTER!
Posted by: mims nj | July 25, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Well, he sure needs the helpwith that “pride” thing!
Posted by: Beth | July 25, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
DKNY – God, if he exists, gave you the ability to go to the gym. Get on it man. By the way have spirituality, whether it be a belief in God or something else, isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
Posted by: Ben Straub | July 25, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Although really — did he honestly think that note wouldn’t get published? Of course he did! It was written so as not to offend in any way. I’m not saying that’s bad, either, just that he wouldn’t be inclined to get too personal in a note that was bound to be made public.
I’m vastly more irate that he ditched the troops because he couldn’t make political hay out of them.
Posted by: beth | July 25, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Lisa – that struck me as odd too.
The act of stealing the note, publishing the note, etc. was just gross ( I feel slimey reading and commenting on it it to be honest! Course its not going to stop me . . .), but I too was struck that the priority of his alleged prayer was to protect himself and his family, forgive his sins, etc. . . all Obama-centric prayers. . .
Posted by: Echo21 | July 25, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Beth
Bush, Cheney, and John McCain’s buddies at the pentagon told him he would be “ill-advised” to go to the troops at the base. Right before he was to go.
They told him not to go…
so please…here is a guy trying to do everything right…
and no matter what you are going to spin it.
Posted by: dl | July 25, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
This violates the wall. Obama doea not demonstrate prudence. When will he learn everything he does from now on is the publics. He no longer has claim to privacy – our laws say that about any celebrity. I am disturbed that Obama wanting to lead this country does not love it enough to include America in his prayer. He is all about himself and his immediate family. And that is the troubling impression the American’s have about Obama that he cannot overcome because any words or actions he puts out there is not sincere. His heart is not where it should be. I am not saying he is a bad man- he just is not a real patriot.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
great he is great
Posted by: rock | July 25, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Ma’ariv is a DISGRACE for doing this. I am not an Obama supporter, but his message was sweet and dignified but more importantly, PRIVATE. I am beyond disgusted at Ma’ariv. For those who are not Israelis like I am, Ma’ariv is a liberal rag, and the editors are likely Obama fans. A religious or conservative paper would never have done this.
Posted by: Beth | July 25, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
It is a profound and unacceptable intrusion, to be sure. The substance is revealing, though. Even in prayer Obama is all about Obama. A call to end misery in the world, or for the gift of world peace may have been nice. He could pray for anything — and yet, he asks only to help himself. I have yet to perceive a shred of empathy in this man’s heart.
Posted by: kdbono | July 25, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Set yourself up as a media darling and you have to expect this kind of intrusion. The guy won’t visit recovering soldiers because he couldn’t take a posse with him! Please. I am playing the world’s smallest violin for BO!!!
Posted by: beebop | July 25, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
This “news” is released to serve two purposes only. One is to “prove” that Obama is a Christian (Yeah!) and the other is to get people to sympathize with Obama that his privacy has been violated. Don’t think it will work with alot of us that are smarter. No belief or sympathy here!
Posted by: Another Dem For McCain | July 25, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
As an Instrument of God’s Will, Barack’s speech was such a different message and vision than the one we have had for the last 8 years built on greed, fear, war and rumors of war. It is the complete opposite. It was a message for the 21st Century ; a message to the Soul of Humanity and for the survival of the Planet — of Earth. A world where we celebrate each other based on the fact that we are all on this planet together. And that as a species of planet earth, we will not survivie if we continue to war with each other, especially with the atomic and nuclear weapons available to us today!
Barack’s message and vision (for without a vision, a man/nation/world perishes) is based on the oneness of Humanity and our shared and common goals — that we are, all of earth’s people, in this together and that we live in a Global Society. And, it was based on the dynamic and healing energy of love and goodwill toward each other; that we are not alone and without hope for a better world in this country and around the world. And, it was based on the premise that there should be a freedom from fear and want everywhere in the world and that only united and an understanding of one another can we build a better world for all.
What a great vision for us as a people to aspire too, especially for the young teenagers and adults and the children around the world — It Gives them something to look forward to other than endless years of war and hate based on geological differences, color or religious affiliation — because no matter what the outward differences of color, inwardly, the blood of each of us is all One Color, red!
The large crowd in Germany and the other large crowds that Barack generates attests to the fact that people hunger for truth and for a message of hope and inspiration, for inspirational leaders! Again Barack shows that he is indeed inspirational, a great healer/teacher/leader! Is it not great that we are talking about peace and unity for a change? Our common humanity? That speaks a lot in itself.
It is unintelligent to think that we are not interdependent and that what goes on in one part of the world does not effects us All! It does. Some think of the Internet ase the outward symbol of humanity’s “global brain”. Certainly, Barack generated a lot of powerful and healing energy throughout the world as he spoke to the heart and Soul of the World. The place where love and peace dwells. We must not loose it, because critics say he is not yet President. However, as a man of God and a servant of the world he ceased the Moment, and because he loves America and Peace, these things had to be said Now, to stimulate the vision — that we can have peace here, right here on earth!
Posted by: Angellight | July 25, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
there are much difference between mccain and obama. if we want the world to love us, certainly, we should vote for obama.we should understand how the world listen to him. therefore, my request to you all, dont make blunt choice.
Posted by: paul | July 25, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
It is all over the other news stations. YES, the pentagon stopped him. YES, he did visit other military hospitals while he was on his trip but he did not take the press with him.
Posted by: becky | July 25, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Maybe the MSM and his bots will treat it like the sacred shroud of Turin.
Posted by: Mack | July 25, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
another dem for mccain
the paper that released this and printed the prayer three months ago trashed him in a cartoon (yes that was racist) where Obama was painting the white house black …making comments that were not good.
so.
no,
this was not anyone could assure you…something the Obama campaign could have had anything to do with.
This was a politically slanted media source that is very anti-Obama froma very bad (yes again racist by the true meaning not conjecture) platform..
so read about the source before you try saying/spinning this as something that is not true…
People against obama on these blogs are getting worse and worse with their fiction and removing facts from the reality to suit their own whacked twist on ethics.
Posted by: dl | July 25, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Another Dem For McCain – McCain really. I can’t stand more republican arrogance. They have 8 years to destroy our country. I want them to sit on the sidelines for a while.
Posted by: Another Dem For McCain Then Republican For McKinney Then Paul Supporter For Nader | July 25, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
privacy never remains secret over time. but it was his prayer to the god, people are so crazy, do not care just enjoy spreading without taking view of circumstances
Posted by: jack | July 25, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
Talk about of limits. But it is great for the campaign to get it out in the news that Obama is fairly normal when it comes to prayer. Who doesn’t ask for these things? It humanizes him…
Posted by: matt | July 25, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Aston – No Christmas presents. Does this mean he practices fiscal conservatism in his own house while everybody else buys junk from China increasing our national debt. I will take him. I will be voting Barr, but hey this fiscal conservatism may be a start for Obama.
Posted by: Ben Straub | July 25, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Why should we even vote seems Obambi has already decided that he is POTUS.
Posted by: tiredofpolitics | July 25, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
I find this act of exposing what was written in Obama’s note horrible. But can be expected. I find no problem with what he wrote. This was in all ways of a personal nature. If he had mentioned anything about US it would have been criticized as being political. Critics will always be rise to complain.
Facts are facts, “damned if done and damned if not done.”
Note should not have been released to news media! Period!
Posted by: Sharonklim | July 25, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
our country is being isolated by the bush administration, they destroyed our strong economy and pride. only for this administration our country is lagging behind. it is our time we should not allow this administration go any longer. pls stop bush mccain so as get back our pride,love and ………
Posted by: jack | July 25, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
I went to the Wailing Wall in 1999 and put a prayer in a crack for the health of my family (those prayers are removed about once a week, placed in a small container and buried in the cemetery on the Mount of Olives). Since then all of my aunts and uncles and my mother have passed away. I’ve have two minor operations, then was diagnosed with type II diabetes, as was my sister and brother soon after. It was a nice experience, but I wouldn’t recommend going out of my way to pray there!
Posted by: Mickey | July 25, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
It was wrong to publish the prayer–whether from Obama or not.
Posted by: morninmist | July 25, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Since I am FROM Michigan, i will be happy to. We are in a 5 year, one state recession with NO end in sight. We have a Democratic Gov. Jennifer Granholm who is so completely inept it’s astounding. We have a Dem controlled Senate who can’t stop fighting. We have a Dem Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick that is charged with perjury AND new this morning apparently he is being investigated for assault and battery on a Wayne Country Deputy Sheriff.
The Detroit automakers are bleeding profits and jobs. We rank 3rd in home foreclosures.
So folks around here are leery about elected another Dem. Obama can win, but he does have some work to do here.
But it’s early, if the polls are this close after Labor Day when people (not political junkies like us) start paying attention, then I will be worried.
Posted by: Jane Hussein | July 25, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
no weapon form against me shall prosper.and every tongue that’s lift up in judgement shall be condemed (the bible say’s). I pray that the one’s that made fun of Obama understands this. You are not only making fun of him,you are making fun of the people who felt that he was worthy, maybe you have the judgement to know their hearts and your. God have mercy on your soul.
Posted by: dr j | July 25, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Echo21 – well said. It is odd that Obama did not mention anything about taking care of America and American’s – with all of the crisis we are facing. But narcassitic pride is a problem he does suffer from. He needs to mature before he is ready to be President.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
I am a dreamer. I dream of November 9 when the Bush policies go away.
and we close this really bad chapter on American history going so far off track.
and there is only one way this election will go for that to happen.
and unfortunately John McCain sold his soul, his last attempt and his ethics to the Bush policies and platform. So that chapter needs to close.
Posted by: dl | July 25, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
dl,
My son and I went to see McCain last Friday at the GM Tech Center. First he reversed his stance on Federally REgulated car emissions, saying state should set emission standards (which would KILL Detroit Automakers) and then went on to promote NAFTA. {GASP}!! It was the worst message to send to an audience of UAW workers, some of whom will be out of a job at the end of August.
Posted by: Jane Hussein | July 25, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
and just so everyone knows because I have heard this on other blogs…
November 9 is the start of the first week after the election.
Posted by: dl | July 25, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
meaning it wasn’t a typ-o
Posted by: dl | July 25, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Mickey,
Yikes!! Thanks for the tip, LOL! I pray all is well now!
Posted by: Jane Hussein | July 25, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
This violates the wall. Obama doea not demonstrate prudence. When will he learn everything he does from now on is the publics. He no longer has claim to privacy – our laws say that about any celebrity. I am disturbed that Obama wanting to lead this country does not love it enough to include America in his prayer. He is all about himself and his immediate family. And that is the troubling impression the American’s have about Obama that he cannot overcome because any words or actions he puts out there is not sincere. His heart is not where it should be. I am not saying he is a bad man- he just is not a real patriot
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
“but I too was struck that the priority of his alleged prayer was to protect himself and his family, forgive his sins, etc. . . all Obama-centric prayers. . .”
Wow… How many people do you know of who pray for anything other than for their family and self? I bet you haven’t.
I very much doubt that anything, at this point, will convince those who don’t think he’s Christian… its too deeply ingrained.
Posted by: Nick B | July 25, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Who the heck cares what Obuma says or does, we are so sick of this phony!
The term overkill comes to mind with all this mindless coverage!
Posted by: HP Boston | July 25, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Nick B – I happen to pray for many people and events that are way beyond me and my immediate family. It is called being a Christian- and not being selfish.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Jane, nice criticism of Michigan and maybe you ought to move to Canada,or the next time you travel Europe you should stay there. Why suffer and live in America? Let me guess, It’s the best place on Earth, isn’t it?
Posted by: bombem | July 25, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
I hope that the seminary student was expelled. In this case, the matter was between Obama and God. Obama might be powerless to do anything about it but God is not. I would not want to be in the student’s shoes or the paper’s shoes.
Posted by: Beto | July 25, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Nick B – good lord! Do you attend church? I have hard prayers for world leaders, for the state of the world, etc. THOUSANDS of times. Are you for real, asserting that you bet I’ve never heard someone praying for something other than themselves? I’m stunned, really.
And who questioned BHO’s Christianity? His religious affiliation? His beliefs? I have no idea – nor do I care – what his religious beliefs are. I don’t think he’s Muslim, I think he’s an opportunistic atheist – and guess what? I don’t care! I would like religion out of politics period. And vice versa.
The prayer struck me as odd. Period.
Color me racist. Color me Republican. Color me cynical. Color me “disgusting”. Whatever floats your boat.
The message I am getting is “thou shalt not criticize The Obama”. Now that’s “ech”.
Posted by: Echo21 | July 25, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
This is so sad that there is no privacy even in prayer.
That kid ought to be ashamed of himself.
Posted by: Rhoda | Jul 25, 2008 11:21:46 AM
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OH PLEASE! The kid was paid to get the paper and it was just another publicity stunt. All rock stars are self centered and lapping up any bit of crappy limelight they can conjure up.
If any of the wall prayers did any good it would be gone by now!
Sad you fall for this lunacy!
Posted by: HP Boston | July 25, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Jane, I also live in Michigan and work in the auto industry. Your attempt to explain away Obama’s inablity to get any kind of lead over McCain is lame, self centered and based on self serving assumptions. It also does not address the 3 other states that are normally strong democratic states that have given support to McCain making it a dead heat with Obama. Our president is Republican – that party would not help this state. The DNC and Obama however did disrespect the voters in Michigan by taking a long held stance that our votes would not count. Obama has since tried to make us believe that he cares about us – again another case of his sincerity not being believable. When will he learn that we are not stupid. He under estimates the ability of the average middle class white citizen to see truth and heart. It is not about wearing a flag pin -so please don’t even go there- it is about the heart – and that comes through witho or without wearing a stupid lapel pin.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
bombem wrote:
Jane, nice criticism of Michigan
**************
I was asked to critique why McCain is closing in the polls in Michigan. It’s not criticism, it’s an honest observation of what is going on in this state and why people may be afraid of vote Dem at this point.
While I may not be suffering, many in this state are.
American used to be the greatest, now we are isolated and treated with disdain on the world stage due to the Bush Administration.
Posted by: Jane Hussein | July 25, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
“He ventured forth to bring light to the world…”
After the “Too Good To Be True” video, the RNC can now take statements and videos of this kind of statement. One makes a laughing stock of the MSM, and the other will make a laughing stock of a segment of his supporters. Together they are a one-two punch highlighting the Creep Factor.
As I said, his biggest problem will be his own supporters. Once realized, the dilemma they will face is do they want to be a prominent part of his organization more than they want him to win, or do they have to slide into the background as Michelle and the Battling Reverends have?
It’s an interesting test of commitments. People like the person who made that comment need badly to belong to something, and when denied, they turn ugly or don’t depending on which of their own agendas they follow most strongly.
Posted by: len | July 25, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Senator Obama probably knew his prayer note would be retrived and published. Is this another political stunt?
Posted by: Mary | July 25, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
That was an offensive invasion of privacy. I hope that seminary student was expelled. Another religious person doing something hypocritical.
For those criticizing Obama’s prayer, find something meaningful to pray about in your own life. Every single human being is allowed to have their own private relationships. Shame on you for criticizing him for his prayer.
Posted by: anne | July 25, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Privacy of prayer- the bible says to go in your room and pray in privacy. You are not to pray as a public display, just as you are not to do charitable cats for all to see or to wear torn sack cloth and a sad face when you fast. Obama’s prayer was anything but private- it was telecast for all to see, with a great crowd around him. He violated the bible’s request to pray in private so no one sees you do it.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Did the sacred text bear the faux-presidential seal of the chosen one?
Posted by: Mack | July 25, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
this election wrote:
just as you are not to do charitable cats …
****************
REMEMBER people, don’t do chartiable cats!!! Only the uncharitable cats!
Posted by: Jane Hussein | July 25, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Did the sacred text bear the faux-presidential seal of the chosen one?
Posted by: Mack | Jul 25, 2008 12:42:12 PM
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No seal, just turned in his lapel pin as an act of faith!! lol lol lol
Posted by: HP Boston | July 25, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Someone should tell Obama there is no light at the end of his tunnel!
Posted by: HP Boston | July 25, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
The fact that the polls are so close in America says a lot about americans.
There is absolutely no reason why mccain should come close to Obama in the polls considering the direction the country is headed at the moment.
We now know that Americans will never learn. They are bent on bringing their nation down to its knees economically, socially, diplomatically etc.
They are obviously putting race and other frivolous factors above their own survival as a nation.
Unbelievable!!!
Posted by: UK Resident | July 25, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
“Invasion and violation of the privacy of prayer” ??? – the bible tells us when we pray to go in our room and pray in private. You are not to pray as a public display. However,Obama did this wailing wall performance for all to see for his own political and personal gain. Another blogger said God will take action against the student who pulled out this prayer. Maybe God will take action against Obama for using prayer for personal show and gain. The bible tells us not to do charitable acts for all to see or to wear torn sack cloth and a sad face when you fast. Obama’s prayer was anything but private- it was telecast for all to see, with a great crowd around him. Obama was the one who violated the privacy of prayer – not the student ot the newpapers.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Come On. he clearly knew that it was going to be dug up. Shame on Obama for draging religion into politics and using god to collect vites. SHAME ON HIM.
Posted by: Anyone but Obama | July 25, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Obama supporters- please stop calling anyone who finds flaws in Obama a “racist”. I am not a racist. Obama is flawed and it has nothing to do with his skin color. Obama’s heart and character and ego are flawed. Obama has too much “audacity” and not enough prudence or humility.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY WHEN WE VOTE FOR MCCAIN!
Posted by: peoples_prez | July 25, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
The fact that the polls are so close in America says a lot about americans.
There is absolutely no reason why mccain should come close to Obama in the polls considering the direction the country is headed at the moment.
We now know that Americans will never learn. They are bent on bringing their nation down to its knees economically, socially, diplomatically etc.
They are obviously putting race and other frivolous factors above their own survival as a nation.
Unbelievable!!!
Posted by: UK Resident | July 25, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Republicans shouldn’t complain about media coverage differential if they believe in free markets. The market wants more of Obama, and less of McCain in a super market. That’s capitalism for ya.
Posted by: twb0392 | July 25, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Hey I liked seeing McCain among the cheese. And the Sausage Haus and the Pronto Pup. GREAT photo op for the AARP crowd!
Posted by: Jane Hussein | July 25, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
UK Resident – the problem with American’s not supporting the democratic candidate in the numbers we should based on the terrible condition Geo. Bush has gotten this country into (not to mention the 9% approval rating of the democratic congress led by Lousy Nancy Pelosi). I am a democrat – have been my whole adult life. I am P.O.d that once again the DNC has put up a flawed candidate. I will not vote for McCain – he is wrong on all of the issues. I will either stay home or vote for Nader. This election is one for Obama to lose – and he is certainly not able to bring it home. It is not an issue of race- for me anyway. It is an issue of Obama the man – he is lacking with priorities and allegiiances either lacking or in the wrong place to be leader of America.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Jane,putting all criticism of you aside for a moment I would like to say that I really do respect you,re opinions. You are obviously educated and well informed. My frustration with you and peole who project similar views like yours is that you never express what you like or even love about America. Pretending to be Canadian is the type of statement that I find difficult to comprehend. Pretending to be what your not is Imature and cowardly. Don’t you think? What ever happened to “My Country, right or wrong”? It’s that anti American reteric coming from Obama that will with out a doubt cause his defeat in Nov., just like Kerry. So Let’s hear something positive from you.
Posted by: bombem | July 25, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
A sincere prayer from a sincere man. Something we haven’t experienced for a while in our country. God bless Obama, God bless America, and God bless our next president. I pray it will be Obama.
Posted by: Ron | July 25, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Ron – are you implying god prefers democrats?
Posted by: Aston | July 25, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
In any other circumstance , given the quality of the two candidates, Obama would be miles ahead in the polls. The qualities this man has are extrordinary and yet he is in a dead heat with McCain!..a man who barely remembers what room he has just left. Once again you Americans will inflict upon the world a leader who , clearly is not up to the job (just like your last great choice for president..well done!)and you will have squandered a chance for a truly real chance for a change purely because he is (political pundits won’t say it but I will) an African American. Elect McCain..when he proceeds with Bush’s policies and the US falls into an even deeper hole…I will be laughing all the way
Posted by: jonn jones | July 25, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Jane Hussein…you can make fun of the “AARP crowd” but that’s the crowd with the most voters that actually show up at the polls so kiss off beyatch. That’s the crowd that can see right through that empty suit. That’s the crowd that was once young, naive and starry eyed that at one time might have bought Barry’s load of BS but not now. That AARP crowd is too smart and too wise to buy into anything Barry and Michelle will dish out.
Posted by: BabsNJ | July 25, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Ya think Obama would put anything down on paper in his handwriting with the letterhead from his Hotel AND RISK IT EVER BEING DISCOVERED AND TRACED TO HIM…..C’mon…people what else was he going to write….”Please Lord see to it that I am coronated King of the World”?
Posted by: bsmeter | July 25, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Aston: I’m praying – I’m not implying anything. Maybe you should try praying too. It might even inspire you to spell God with a capital “G”.
Posted by: Ron | July 25, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
“We now know that Americans will never learn. They are bent on bringing their nation down to its knees economically, socially, diplomatically etc.”
And the Jr. Senator from Chicago with street organizing experience under his belt is going to save the country and the world? His ardent supporters can’t even name a single significant accomplishment. Give me a break.
Posted by: Mack | July 25, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Ron – if your god interferes with politics, he should indeed have his name spelled entirely in lower case letters.
Posted by: Aston | July 25, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Yay….BabsNJ…tell Jane Hussein like it is. Our demographic IS the group that determines the outcome of this election, not the Germans or the French, but us God loving, Country loving middle to middle-right Americans. Too bad Obama’s numbers here aren’t as good as in Germany….I wish he’d just stay abroad and dazzle THEM, because the polls keep telling us WE’RE JUST NOT BUYING IT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!
Posted by: b.s.meter | July 25, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Ron: God Bless America? No, remember Rev Wright?, according to him God Damn America. How can we forget that Obama was a member of that church for 20 years and then LIED about hearing anything? If you read what Obama wrote one week later (I think 9/19/01) it is CLEAR that he heard Wrights speech that blames America (chickens home to roost) because Obama’s op-ed basically said the same thing, just a little softer since he is a politician. This was in the New Yorker article that everyone was too busy talking about the cover to actually read the article. Wake the heck up people.
Posted by: BabsNJ | July 25, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Agnostics, atheists and
rationalists of whom
there are millions in
the country will find
the prayer a superstitious
crutch. Public officials
should stop wearing religion
on their sleeves.
Posted by: anon | July 25, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
You people who would criticize his visit or mock his prayer should step outside of your partisanship, look at the situation objectively, or turn your cynical, all questioning eyes on politicians of BOTH parties.
Its reprehensible to have removed the prayer. PERIOD. Its doubly so to publish it in the paper. But to question if it was written with the INTENT of being removed and published in the paper is morally bankrupt.
Posted by: DvlsAdvocat | July 25, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
What did people expect him to write? No news here.
Posted by: mhm | July 25, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
DvlsAdvocat
Come on — BHO did it knowing it would be found. He’s the king of creating PR. The student was probably in cahoots with him. Based on BHO’s history, there is no other probable conclusion!
Posted by: Aston | July 25, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
this election counts *****************
With all due respect to you, People like me living outside america understand americans better than you understand yourselves it seems.
It’s so easy to find flimsy reasons to cover up one’s feelings about race. The greater percentage of people who are racist tell themselves they are not – they deny that fact even to themselves.
There is just no other reason why the race is close.
Mccain’s policies are just Bush’s with minor retouches here and there. These policies have been tried out over the last 8 years and they failed woefully.
Why would some americans believe they will work this time around?
Posted by: UK Resident | July 25, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Did he write:
I’m Barrack Obama and I approve this message
Posted by: Mack | July 25, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Ron – where do you see this “sincerity” in Obama? Boy, I wish I could see even a slight trace of sincerity, but I see an unfeeling, unconnected, unempathetic, unsympathetic, unreligious, unpatriotic man in Obama. I do see he loves his wife and children so I am not blind when I look at Obama. Just don’t see any love of country and it’s citizens other than the black ones.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
UK Resident
That’s pretty presumtive isn’t it?
Posted by: Aston | July 25, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
UK Resident- you do not know me and cannot tell me from an ocean away what my motives are. We donated money to Obama’s campaign until it became evident he is a flawed man. I have been a steering committee member for the doemocratic party. It has nothing to do with his skin color. He is not the best candidate that the DNC should have put up for President. Period.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
whiner,
You must be joking about Obama vandalizing the wall? It is a centuries old tradition to place prayers into the cracks between the stones. Literally millions have prayers have been placed there, including prayers sent to the students of Aish HaTorah, and placed in the wall for those who can’t make the journey. The wall represents the closest connection to God on Earth, the original Temple. This prayer should have never been removed.
Posted by: DvlsAdvocat | July 25, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Religious beliefs are
superstition – not the
ethical teachings
embodied in a religion.
Praying for your safety
and that of your family
or seekiing forgiveness
is not high religion.
High religion is about
universal peace, justice,
equality and protection
of the earth’s environment
and all creatures in it.
Posted by: anon | July 25, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Great comment Mack, that is exactly what I was thinking. It is obvious to me that this was a staged note and discovery. More propaganda from BO.
Posted by: Nikki | July 25, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
“Why would some americans believe they will work this time around? ”
We are not crowning a King. Neither candidate is ideal with Obama being the worse of the two. 4 years of a McCain presidency with Democrats in control of everything else, will not be the end of the world. He has proven that he is willing to work across party lines, unlike the faux-uniter who has been all talk and no action.
Posted by: Mack | July 25, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
this election counts ******************
Is John Mccain the best candidate the RNC should have put up?
Does the DNC select who their candidates are or are they elected by regular people like you?
Posted by: UK Resident | July 25, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
DVLSADVOCATE Removing the prayer is not the greatest violation in this event the”Invasion and violation of the privacy of prayer” falls on Obama’s shoulders – to make a PR event out of his praying. The bible tells us when we pray to go in our room and pray in private. You are not to pray as a public display. However,Obama did this wailing wall performance for all to see for his own political and personal gain. Another blogger said God will take action against the student who pulled out this prayer. Maybe God will take action against Obama for using prayer for personal show and gain. Obama’s prayer was anything but private- it was telecast for all to see, with a great crowd around him. Obama was the one who violated the privacy of prayer – not the student ot the newpapers.
Obama is an opportunist of the highest order using God, prayer and phony patriotism for his own personal gain. And truly since his prayer was all about him – noted his pridefulness – and did not include anything about America or the world and the people in either – we can soundly deduce that his priorities fall only with his own selfish personal gain.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
UK Resident
The DNC (and RNC) elect nobody!
Posted by: Aston | July 25, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
UK Resident . This is my last response to you. Obama’s “win” is highly questionable. Popular vote does not select the candidate. Not all voters votes count equally as 1 – the DNC has a convuluted crazy way of assigning delegates and there was a lot of pushing to get the delegates Obama got. Hillary CLinton received more popular votes. There were a lot of strange questionable circumstances surrounding the selection of Obama. Not any clearer and more fair than the selection of Bush as President in 2000. Secondly McCain is not my choice – I am not a republican and usually the party not in favor to win puts up a less than desireable candidate so as not to taint the one they really support when times are more conducive to their party winning.
Thirdly – I will vote for Nader or stay home. I don’t like either McCain or Obama. You are very arrogant to be telling us Americans that we won’t support Obama because we are racist and I will not waste my time on such people.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
I have a question! Obama says that he will unite our country, yet I see as much hate posted about him as I see posted about Bush. Bush also said that he would unite our country and look where it led us. Why can’t we all tell the truth and admit that there is no one that can unite us because we the Dems are at one end of the line and the Rep are at there other end. If you want to be fair, McCain has worked across the party lines more than anyone on either party and he does not have a change of uniting us. So forgetting all the bull that both of them say, my question to you is if Obama says he can unite this country when we all know he can’t, is he just a fool or a does he take us average people as fools?
Posted by: hughck | July 25, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
anon – You express it well what is “high religion” and what is not. Obama is about himself – not higher loftier motives.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
this election counts,
You must be joking. McCain visited the western wall already, as have Laura Bush, the Pope, Vladimir Putin, and a host of other political figures. To suggest this visit is an unprecedented display is criminally ill-informed or simply disingenuous.
As for “praying in private, not in the streets as hypocrites do” please keep that in mind when the next “prayer in schools” movemnt comes to your town. The difference is that the Western wall is a holy place, the remnant of God’s Temple, and is intended as a place of prayer.
Posted by: DvlsAdvocat | July 25, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Aston ***********************
Right, why is ‘this election counts’ complaining that the DNC put up a flawed candidate when they actually have little say in who becomes the nominee?
Is it not clear that he is grasping at every straw to hide the real reason why he is against Obama?
Posted by: UK Resident | July 25, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Public officials on a
political visit should not
go to religious places
either at home or abroad.
The words of BO’s prayer
are vapid and insipid.
Posted by: anon | July 25, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
hughck – I beleive Obama thinks we are fools. He has greatly underestimated the middle class white people as another blogger stated – the AARP people. We see through this stuff. We are not as easily hoodwinked as the youth or naive yet so greatly hopeful black voters.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Nothing happens by accident in the Obama campaign!!! I’m sure he gave the seminary student the prayer to get it published!!!! This man is all POLITICS! CROOKED POLITICS!!!
Posted by: Politicgirl | July 25, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
“Right, why is ‘this election counts’ complaining that the DNC put up a flawed candidate when they actually have little say in who becomes the nominee?”
The DNC made it clear which candidate was their choice. It was the candidate that was able to raise the most money.
Posted by: Mack | July 25, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
DvlsAdvocat – No where did I ever suggest or even hint that Obama’s visit to the wailing wall was unprecedented. As for you trying to make some points with your “Prayer in school” comment- that is not the topic of discussion so you have no idea whether I support it or not. Your response is totally irrelevant. You are obviously struggling to try and defend Obama’s prayer privacy when he violated God’s pray in private command. Did the others who also visit that wall – yes- and if their prayer was read would they make a big deal out of their privacy being invaded? Would it have been a personal all about me prayer that the Pope prayed at the wall? I highly doubt it. I personally think it is sacriligious to say a wall is sacred. God, Jesus are sacred – not a man made wall. If you go there to pray – it is not a private prayer. That is what I am saying.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
this election counts
I have to agree with you! I’ve been around for almost 65 years and have seen all the hope and lies sold to the American people. There is no perfect person that will please all the people and anyone that says they are that person is someone to stay away from. Me I want someone that will tell me the truth even if it means that they will lose my vote. There things athat I agree with the Reps on and things I agree with the Dems on, but I do not want to save money on lower taxes, better health care or anything else it my country is not going to be defended and if my own personal live is improved while my county is being destroyed. I don’t trust Obama! McCain, I have many disagreements with, but overall he seems to tell us what he believes, even if he is wrong. The Reps don’t like him because he is not conservative enough and the Dems don’t like him because he is too conservative. Sounds to me like he is more in the middle of that line, like most Americans are. Unless the starts lying to me I will always vote for honesty over what is best for ME!
Posted by: hughck | July 25, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
It’s interesting listening to the venom coming from Obama haters.
Do you guys just hate him this badly because of his policies or is there more to it?
Posted by: Independent | July 25, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Mack – Thank you. It is so naive of anyone to think the GOP and DNC do not see to it that their candidate of choice gets “selected”. If we did away with super delegates and delegates and the electoral college than I would say the people elect the candidates and president. But when some votes count as 2 while others count as 1 and some votes don’t count at all -and delegates are assigned differently for caucuses, and major cities, or areas with a historical larger turnout get a higher number of delegates. and when Superdelegates do not give their support according to their states or city’s popular vote then I say the candidates put up for election are SELECTED by the party- not the people. It is a sham and a kangaroo court.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
To those who don’t really know how a candidate gets selected here are some facts: 1) delegates select the candidate not popular vote 2) the delegates are not selected fairly based on 1 vote = 1 count. In fact some votes count as 2 where others in the same state count as 1 based on the area’s historical voting turnout. Caucus’s are a whole other can of worms not based on popular vote results 3) super delegates did not support the candidate their city/state selected based on popular vote 4) even in the presidential election it is the electoral college who selects the president – not the people based on popular vote (in 2000 it was the Supreme Court who selected our president) So until we do away with delegates and the electoral college- NO the PEOPLE do not put up their candidates of choice or elect the president. It is all a sham – a kangaroo court. In fact the parties control (and if you do not think they have the strings to pull and the corrupt actions to make things happen all the way from media coverage (i.e.Roosevelt never seen in wheelchair)) who they want to to run you are very very naive.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
‘You must be joking. McCain visited the western wall already, as have Laura Bush, the Pope, Vladimir Putin, and a host of other political figures’.
YES, THEY DID!
And NONE of them initiated the breu ha ha (yes, it’s mispelled!) and pomp and litter that B O did… not only because
they were there as visitors rather than contestants…. but (aside from the Pope and possibly the President)also because they did not pretend to be there in any capacity other than as individuals…
Obama is an egomaniacal presumptuous candidate who is so full of “pomp”, he has forgotten that the people he is supposed to protect and provide for should he win… ARE HERE!
… AND THE PROMISES HE MAKES.. should be probable.
Looking at all the unfinished jobs.. some untouched… he has left behind in his climb to the top of the political heap.. the prospect of this is doubtful.
HILLARY OR MCCAIN
but always:
COUNTRY BEFORE BROKEN DOWN DNC AND FORCE-FED B O!!!
Posted by: questioner | July 25, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
It’s interesting listening to the venom coming from Obama haters.
Do you guys just hate him this badly because of his policies or is there more to it?
Posted by: Independent | Jul 25, 2008 2:23:50 PM
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ALL OF THE ABOVE!!
Posted by: HP Boston | July 25, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Independent
I don’t know about anyone else, but I do not hate Obama, in fact I admire him. My problem is I do not trust him because he does not seem to say the same thing to everyone. I also over my years of living have found out that people hang around people that are like them. So I have a hard time with him going to a racist church for 20 years and being friends with a person that bombed USA buildings. I find it hard to believe that he did not know what these people he was friends with stood for. If he really did not know what his minister stood for after 20 years of friendship, then I have to believe that he is either a fool or just plain stupid. If that is the case I don’t want him leading my country.
Next to all of you that say you won’t vote for either McCain or Obama, I say you are fools. This country and who leads is is important. To not vote or waste your vote on someone that can’t win, when one of these 2 men will come closer to what you think is best for this country than the other, is disgrace. It is better to have someone leading this country that you agree with 60% of the time than to have the other person that you only agree with 5% of the time.
Posted by: hughck | July 25, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Posted by: questioner | Jul 25, 2008 2:35:31 PM
————–Your post is 100% 0n target. THanks——————–
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Posted by: HP Boston | July 25, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Independant: I do not hate Obama. Like I said earlier we had donated money to his campaign. But now too much has proven to be false. He has too much audacity and not enough prudence, humility or maturity.
Obama is a typical politician – no change in fact he was raised on dirty Chicago politics, he has a selfish ego objective, he flip flops for his personal reasons, he is not secure in his beliefs and positions, he cannot relate to the people of this nation other than blacks (I believe he is racist) he is not truly patriotic- (words are cheap), he is lacking good judgment – he should have waited until he had more experience, he is inexperienced and insecure in what he should be doing and saying and has too many “What I meant was” episodes. There are more similarities between Bush & Obama than his supporters will see. I could go on, but no where does his race enter into the decision – his racism does however – not mine.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Bho, should have prayed for his country and the troops as well as for peace,…. not so much just of self! and I beleive it was staged like the rest of this empty suit,and empty soul, go back to his church of twenty years and just see what hatred and bigotry he ingested for over 20 years, and then lies about it, I would take you back to what his very own mentor and spiritual adviser said about him,he speacks as a politition!…lies!!!!
Posted by: RELD1127 | July 25, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Questioner – well said!
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
“With all due respect to you, People like me living outside america understand americans better than you understand yourselves it seems.”
Black Adder was more than a spoof. It was a clinical analysis of the British failure to come to terms with its failures as a modern society.
Brits think a sonic screwdriver is something one uses to open doors to other dimensions. Americans think it is a drive-in drink to which one adds a little vodka.
Posted by: len | July 25, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
How manny of you out there dont have in your prayrs ,for our troops and for our country and for peace? I would find it very sad,if it were very manny,at all, and those that forget,well they seem to be praying for self,and god will find this very un christin and shallow!! and here it is still god bless America,and not God damn America,as that is taking the Lords name in vain, as well as other things …hate! But I guess he wanted the news coverage,you reep what you so
Posted by: RELD1127 | July 25, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Obama: First and always for Obama.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | July 25, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
“we need a man of peace and future President Obama is the man that will help bring about that peace.”
After he invades Paksitan in search of Obama that is. It sure will be peaceful on earth after we invade an unstable country with many nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Mack | July 25, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Obama prays to who?
Obama is a theif…he stole John Edwards’ campaign platform in the beginning…John Edwards was the candidate for CHANGE…..obama stole his idea….and he prays to a God for show only…..he is an “actor”, for his real god is “Ala”
Posted by: j | July 25, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
After he invades Pakistan in search of Obama that is. It sure will be peaceful on earth after we invade an unstable country with many nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Mack | Jul 25, 2008 3:00:54 PM
Posted by: HP Boston | July 25, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
hughck : What are we going to get if we vote for Obama? He is untested, unknown and flip flops constantly. I know what we would get with McCain and I don’t want it. So I will vote for Nader or stay home because I cannot say with any degree of certainty which of the 2 would be the lesser of evils. We don’t know what Obama has in his heart – what I see I don;t like. We don’t know what Obama will end up deciding and irrationally I might add later to claim it was a mistake. We don’t know what Obama really knows about the facts- he is a poor debater and avoids any specifics and is very hesitant and inarticulate when talking one-on -one without a pre written (by someone else) prepared speech. This is the first election- national or local that I ever considered having to abstain. I desperately want to tlike him- keep trying but can’t get over his mistakes. He had no business acting as “president” with the Berlin speech at this point in time; or acting as “president” in negotiating with middle east leaders. He oversteps his position – just wait if he gets in the white house. His head will swell up and there will be no stopping him. Even his brother knows Obama has a big head problem – said that he had to watch it when asked a couple of months ago. Absolute power breed absolute corruption. That is what I fear- because Obama has not been tempered. He is naive to history, naive to this country, naive of this country’s people, naive to the intricacies of foreign policy, our government- which he WILL have to work with and through regardless of his initial naive claims of bringing change to Washington. Jimmy Carter failed at this too. I am not a disgrace because I won’t vote for McCain or Obama. That is my right as a citizen to vote for who I feel would be the best choice- and today I feel it will be Nader. Am I a disgrace because I vote my conscience even though I am discouraged that it will be a throw away vote because the DNC & GOP block any 3rd party from participating? Am I a disgrace because I will not be forced to support whoever the party selects regardless of popular vote? If so- then so be it I am a disgrace.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
After he invades Pakistan in search of Obama that is. It sure will be peaceful on earth after we invade an unstable country with many nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Mack | Jul 25, 2008 3:00:54 PM
Posted by: Mack | July 25, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
RELD1127 – Very good point. With our country at war- wouldn’t you think a future president would have our country in any prayer he uttered whether private or public as the wailing wall was? How disgraceful that he would not include troops and an end to war. He is not fit to be president of this great nation.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Personally I don’t think ABC should have republished this. Yes he is a public figure but some things should not be made public. It is no different than if he had gone to confessional and the priest recorded him and published it.
Posted by: FSI | July 25, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
this election counts …This election is one for Obama to lose – and he is certainly not able to bring it home.
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If you truly do not think Obama should win the election, why would you stay home on election day? You need to do everything in your power to see that he does not win. I would rather not vote for McCain too but I do believe that McCain will be less damaging to the country than Obama. There is no chance for a third party candidate to win but you have to help tip the scale against Obama. Everyone, if you don’t want Obama to win, you must vote for McCain. The bottom line is that one of them will be President so make a realistic choice and chose the lesser of two evils. Both are bad but one is better than the other!
Posted by: Another Dem For McCain | July 25, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
HP BOSTON,
Please Google McCain’s visit to the Western Wall from March 2008. Tell me how his visit to the wall differed from Obama’s. He also went as a Senator and a presumptive Presidential candidate.
And guess what? It was chaos. Look it up, get the facts, THEN make an actually INFORMED comment about the brouhaha caused.
That is all….
Posted by: DvlsAdvocat | July 25, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Obama leads his lemmings through twists and turns and those lemmings are too busy playing follow the leader to notice they’re now going opposite the direction they started on. Lemmings are blind little creatures.
Posted by: Soetoro No! | July 25, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
I am no Obama fan. I don’t think he should be elected to any public office. Prayers however are between God and the person praying to him. The seminary student is scum and Ma’ariv is nothing but a dirty rag. Israel should be embarrassed by both of them. They have certainly shamed the entire nation and disgraced the Jewish people.
Posted by: Royce | July 25, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Royce
It’s an Obama PR trick. What’s telling is that his ‘prayer’ was a request for god to bless HIM. If that’s not shameful, what is?
Posted by: Aston | July 25, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
this election counts
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Want you to know that I posted my reply BEFORE I read your latest message. I do not think in any way that you are a disgrace to vote as you believe. I just wanted to give you further food for thought because I am thinking pretty much the same way you are. But in my gut, I know I absolutely do not want Obama so I want to do the realistic thing to keep him out of office. The way I think is “A vote that counts against him is better than a vote that doesn’t count at all.” Please do what you need to do! You are great to take such an interest in the election. Many will not even look for answers, they will just pull a lever on election day out of habit or because that is the way their father always voted, etc.
Posted by: Another Dem For McCain | July 25, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Obama now proposes the very things he said he opposed. Same old Obama, different day (SOODD)!
Posted by: Soetoro No! | July 25, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Royce – Whenever you write anything down it is no longer “private”. Obama should have kept his prayers between himself and God as God has directed us to pray. He has no right to privacy when he did this public act with TV cameras all around and he has created a hand written document. He should have written a prayer for the world knowing this was a public prayer – not personal and private.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Another Dem For McCain – Thank you. I understand and have the same logic pulling at me in my head. This election choice is such a dilemma for me and our country is in such need of great strong knowledgeable leadership. I am taking one day at a time – maybe something will happen to make me feel differently about the candidates.
Posted by: this election counts | July 25, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
And this gem: “whenever you write anything down it is no longer private”….is just astounding. Do you really think about what you are saying, or is the job of carrying water too much of a strain on you?
Posted by: DvlsAdvocat | Jul 25, 2008 3:28:56 PM
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Look we do not care about the freaking wall!! It is about Obuma and his crappy publicity stunts and self centered wash my feet and kiss my butt attitude! Obuma the the guy who will most likely back you into a WALL!
Posted by: HP Boston | July 25, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
-Too bad Obama didn’t stuff his birth certificate in the wall!-
Which one?
Posted by: dead end trip | July 25, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
“guard against pride”
even he knows he’s full of it
“and despair.”
depressive tendency?
“And make me an instrument of your will.”
It should, make me an instrument of the will of the people (democracy). And the will of the people was for you to lose the primary.
Posted by: dead end trip | July 25, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
You know, the seminarian’s accomplishment could have been made much more easily. All he had to do was contact the team of writers and aides that wrote the ‘prayer’ in the first place.
Posted by: PAW | July 25, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
You Obama bashers have no shame! If he went to see the troops, you’d accuse him of using them–as Bush never had a problem doing–as a political backdrop. Rather than have it interpreted as such, Obama doesn’t visit them and you STILL criticize him! My God, it’s tough to be proud to be an American these days when one has to share the country with fools and hypocrites like you!
Posted by: Darth_Romney | July 25, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
That is all….
Posted by: DvlsAdvocat | Jul 25, 2008 3:11:59 PM
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And for you also! It is not nice to come here and call people names and disparage any and all opinions.
Shalom.
Posted by: HP Boston | July 25, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
HP BOSTON,
I’m not disparaging any and all opinions, just those that were freely admitted to be uninformed. Why would anyone give undue respect to uninformed opinions?
Posted by: DvlsAdvocat | July 25, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
this election counts:
So what does Nader stand for, he is and has been a loser for the last 20 years. I would gather that you are a Dem, but unhappy with Obama. In which case I’m glad that you are wasting your vote, since I want to see McCain win. I only hope that all Dems do the same thing! By the way you say that you know McCain, then you know that he had been more middle of the road than anyone that has run for President in the last 30 years. So therefore you must be ultra left leaning, where you along with the ultra right think that everything is black or white and that everyone has to believe 100% the way you believe in order to get your vote. I wish that all people that are that far to the left or the right waste their votes since they do not live in the real world anyways.
Posted by: hugh | July 25, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Thought I saw it all…guess not…just another chapter in the daytime soapy “The Many Faces Of Obama”!
Posted by: mfmros | July 25, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
I agree with all those who have taken umbrage at the act of publishing the man’s private prayer at the Western Wall. Wrong as that is, I’m also thankful to have a peep into the senator’s spiritual leanings.
For those who critique the contents of his prayer, saying that he’s selfish and should have prayed for America, or some other subject, please be still and meditate a bit. There’s a place and time for every subject. God does ask us to pray for others; but we must also be right with Him first. Consider Christ’s teaching that if you bring offering to God, but remembers that you have offended your neighbor, you should leave the gift at the altar and first make amends with your neighbor before you do anything else. Then consider when King Solomon assumes the Jewish kingdom from his father David. God gave him a blank check, to ask for anything. Solomon asked for one thing: Wisdom. God rewarded him for not really asking for wealth or anything else that would have been for him alone. He gave Solomon wisdom and tossed in wealth in the bargain. Today, in the Judeo-Christian world, Solomon is ordinarily regarded as the “wisest man” in the word, even when that world would also regret Solomon’s insatiable apetite for women.
Obama prays for his family; he asks for forgiveness; he confesses his inadequacy, and then seeks wisdom from Yahweh. And we have a problem with that?? People, be kind.
It has to be something of mean-spiritedness for anyone who claims to know anything about prayer in Judaism and Christianity to not find comfort in Obama’s prayer. Nothing is out of place or “odd” about his prayer. Christ on the cross was concerned for his earthly mother and made sure he passed her over to the care of one of his beloved followers. Paul asks Christians to ask for wisdom from God, who gives such without restraint. Check out the prayer of Jabez as well.
Please attack Obama on other subjects, but join in condemning the acts by the seminarian and the newspaper for invading the privacy of a supplicant at the Wall, and back off from criticizing the contents of that most intimate of spiritual acts, a conversation a person engages with their God–prayer.
Posted by: Chiji | July 25, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
>>>Chiji | Jul 25, 2008 4:38:44 PM
Thank you; You’re absolutely right.
Posted by: eyes wide open | July 25, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
He should have stuck a
blank piece of paper in
the cracks of the wall.
Posted by: anon | July 25, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Wow!! love or hate Obama …I think if he become president ..there is always going to be people who are going to hate him either because he is black or because he is liberal or a democrat people are going to find a reason..it is easy ..If he didn’t pray for his family ..people would say he is not a family man or what ever the opposite point would help spray their poison ..don’t forget people this is only one prayer of out many..People who actually pray everyday know that we pray for different things at different times ..So all of you trying really hard to define him on one prayer had already had made your mind up that you hate or dislike him ..that is fine… But don’t pretend like his personal prayer to god should be about you so that you would start to like him…So ask yourself this question when is the last time you prayed for country or even your family when you miss them and you are far away in a foreign country…and then have the world look at that one PERSONAL prayers and spray venon and hate on it because you love your family.
God bless you all
Hope you all pray tonight for forgiveness
amen
Posted by: American | July 25, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
I’ve been hearing for 8 years that God was on the Republican side, talking to Mr. Bush directly. So… this wasn’t actually the truth either? No wonder some people here are so angry. Let us prey.
Posted by: Rick_VT | July 25, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
It would seem to me to be abundantly clear that this was, indeed, Senator Obama’s prayer slip. How would I know? Well, it’s almost word-for-word what he told Newsweek in last week’s print edition.
After telling the Lisa Miller and Richard Wolffe that he prays in his daily life, he was asked “What do you pray for?” Here is his response: “Forgiveness for my sins and flaws, which are many, the protection of my family, and that I’m carrying out God’s will, and not in a grandiose way, but simply that there is an alignment between my actions and what he would want.”
Now whether these sentiments are genuine or carefully crafted is not a matter that can be objectively verified. I make no claims to that. But you’ve got to admit, he’s certainly been consistent.
(Oh no, here come the attack dogs, yelping: “He’s not consistent! Didn’t he say he would consult the generals and modify his Iraq strategy as conditions on the ground changed?” Yes, yes he did say that. Which is what he has consistently said since Iowa and before. Whoever says otherwise proves that when Obama talks, they don’t hear him, but some invisible voice inside their own heads…)
Posted by: stupid media... | July 25, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Is there any proof that this prayer was written by Obama? We have only this “student’s” word that it was Obama’s. The student could have easily written the prayer himself. Shame on the newspaper that published the note without verifying that Obama actually wrote it.
Posted by: Missy M | July 25, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
he didn’t even pray for other people, he only prayed for himself. what a selfish man.
at least he knows his fallacy is his pride… being too cocky.
Posted by: mccain 08 | July 25, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Leaving personal prayers
in the fissures of a wall
is for children or
adolescents – not for
grown men.
Posted by: anon | July 25, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Go Obama! You have my vote and always will. May God protect you and your family.
Posted by: jp mcdaniel | July 25, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Who or what gives any of you the right to determine what anyone should be praying for at any time in his or her life? I don’t think any higher power has given you the right to judge a person’s personal prayer to their God.
Some of the comments on here are really shameful. If you are Christian, the Bible states ‘Judge not, lest ye be judged…’ Would you like anyone to deem your prayers as insufficient or a publicity stunt? It doesn’t matter where or how he prayed, only THAT he prayed – and it’s neither that student’s business, nor the paper’s business, nor the business of any of you posting your tripe.
Any way you choose to look at it, it’s a shameful invasion of privacy, and it’s immoral for anyone to try to stand in judgement of a person’s prayer.
Posted by: KimJ | July 25, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Obama’s prayer, if it really is his prayer, is a beautifully and humbly stated prayer. It tells you a lot about the man: one, that he really believes in God; two, that he does not assume he knows everything; three, that he recognizes his imperfections; four, that he depends on his creator for wisdom and guidance; five, that he is a godly leader; and six, that he really loves his family.
Of course, to those who hate and doubt him and disbelieve in God, this prayer will not reverse the hate, doubt or disbelief they feel. Nevertheless, for those of us who are truly followers of Christ, we know he possesses what this country really needs in a leader: real faith. And we also believe whether he becomes President or not, this man is on his way to heaven.
Posted by: leon | July 25, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
who in their right mind believes bho did not realize that a slip of paper he put in the wall would not be taken out to be read!
his prayer was just as calculated and scripted as everything else he does.
Posted by: pp | July 25, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
The self-righteous hatred of some of us Americans never ceases to amaze me. Obama is criticized for praying for his family, and for surrendering his will to the Father. Jesus himself would not stand a chance in America today – he would be labeled a socialist liberal, condemned for being conceived outside of marriage, and shot by a right-wing fanatic.
Posted by: Prophet1 | July 25, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Never before has a person had their prayer removed from the wall and published. All of the people accusing him of somehow “knowing this would happen” need to get back on your meds. World leaders and millions of average people have placed their prayers in that wall and they have all been left alone.
It is disgraceful that someone has done this, it causes harm in many directions to many people.
Posted by: Chris Blask | July 25, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Obama is sent by God, a true blessing to us.
Posted by: Mari | July 25, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
This guy is running for president.
He and his family have SS
protection 24/7 and he is still
praying for more of it.
Posted by: anon | July 25, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
The seminary student who grabbed the paper in the wall was nothing more than a petty opportunist. There’s no proof Obama wrote it unless handwriting samples are compared, and I would hope no one stoops so low. It sounds like the Israeli media is as bad as the American media.
Posted by: kat | July 26, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Chris Blasks:
Obamas radical views on abortion make his so called Christianity, ajoke!
Posted by: Jen | July 26, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am
I am amazed of all the people with suspicious minds. I wonder how well they get a good nights sleep with all of the many skeletons that are hidden in their closets.
Jesus loves Obama, and I love Obama
I am voting for OBAMA 2008
Posted by: mary | July 26, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am
Why would anybody but the Obama campaign or their propaganda arm, the New York media, grab and publish Obama’s “prayer”? Who else would care? Who else would do something that tacky? At 5:30 in the morning during an unscheduled stop.
They already desecrated the site with their campaign posters. True Believers know no bounds and have no principles.
Posted by: ragnar30066 | July 26, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
How much more intrusion into Obama’s spiritual life are we going to tolerate? This man has had to bare his soul literally. The attacks on Senator Obama are off the charts. Anyone who actually follows the teaching of Jesus would be very disappointed that a man’s sacred conversation with God has now become political fodder
Posted by: Stormy | July 26, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
To the pure all things are pure; to the corrupt all things are corrupt
Posted by: Danah | July 26, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
REMEMBER GOD’S WAY.
Posted by: CHUCK | July 26, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
I am not a supporter of Obama however, I believe that the note should have stayed where it was at and no one had the right to read it. That note was between God and Obama not for the public to hear. I am surprised at the actions of people.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | July 26, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
There will come a time when all evil sayings and irrational thoughts will be brought into judgement. Ladies and gentlemen please consider the things you say about our presumtive leaders (Barack/McCain). They are both decent men and should not be demoralized and demonized in such a manner. Let kindness and brotherly love exude from your hearts and ultimately your lips. We are tired of the hatred and filth that is now suffocating our society. Each person is entitled to their opinion but have we forgotten about objectivity in our conversations? LORD HELP US!!
Posted by: stimey | July 26, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
the spiritual leader of the wall has said that such prayers can’t be touched or used for and any or made the subject of discussion. Yet people still have the boldness to violat this devine warning. Obama did what God promised Solomon at the dedication of the temple that if the people should pray at that place He will from heaven hear their prayers.Therefore, people should be carefful what they say. He has prayed the way he feels he should pray, lets leave the young man alone. The question Obama’s critics should ask themselves is our business is Obama’s business with God?. As men have gone into those issues meant for God alone because of election, this election will be decided the powers of devine providence. Those who lean on the arm of flesh will cover their faces in shame. May God help America. Amen.
Posted by: ANTHONY EGBE SON | July 26, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Obama had no business going
to that Solomon’s wall as a
public official on a political
tour.
Posted by: anon | July 26, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
I see they got the same kind of low-lifes overseas. What goes around comes around and the folks that printed it are just as bad.
Indeed , what a SHAME.
Posted by: k2007 | July 26, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Can Obama have any privacy. Gee! I thought better of folks overseas , what a dumb thing to go and print
Posted by: 1 Obama | July 26, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Someone picked up the note
stuck in the wall. A
newspaper published its
contents.
What’s dumb or low-life
about that?
Dumb is sticking a personal
prayer into the wall in the
first place.
Posted by: anon | July 26, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
McCain is a God fearing man and Obama is a God fearing man. Let’s be careful with what judgement we make or say, because God is no respector of persons, just blessings. If you think just because a person has all of the highest protection he/she can receive from the SS in the US and they don’t need the most highest protection that they can receive from the God of the universe, you are a sad individual and I hope that everyone who is writting on this blog will pray for you as a person, that you receive more wisdom and knownledge as a person. Yes, I am a Obama supporter, but whomever God allows to be President, we shall pray for their guidance be from God on their decision making for this country. When we pray in our daily lives this effects what our life and country will be like.
Posted by: shirley | July 27, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Perhaps YOU need to step up your research. Obama joined his wife’s family church when he married her. In it. A very common practice.
Posted by: whosyerkitty | July 27, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
The place of religion in a
modern secular democracy is
the church, the home, the
seminary, the department of
religion at the university,
or institutes dedicated to
its study and research.
Religion has no place in
public schools, the courts,
the military, businesses and
corporations, and the halls
of government.
Posted by: anon | July 27, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Obama (and I’m certain McCain as well) recognizes divine authority, as did the founders of our nation. Obama is absolutely correct to pray for divine protection for himself and his family, and it is encouraging, I think, that he prays to be an instrument of God’s will.
Collectively and individually, Americans need to look to God, we have many problems to face as a nation, and we need God’s help with them.
Posted by: American | July 27, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
They should take that student outside and whip him with a 1,000 lashes.
Posted by: JD | July 28, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
What a prayer! does it remind anyone of King Solomon’s prayer for wisdom in the Bible? I’m so deeply touched by this prayer. God bless Obama
Posted by: Jeshurun | July 28, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
I’ve always thought in many ways the Bible was an allegory waiting to be revealed in the development of individual and collective experiences. The first most puzzling one was the tree of knowledge and why a God who had given free will, would in any way forbid the partaking of it, the second being the tower of Babel, now I think understand the inherit dangers of knowledge and language, my great fear is that the human race will forever be separated by both!!
Posted by: Curtis j | July 28, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
The politcal genius he is, it wouldn’t surprised me if Obama orchestrated the entire thing, from the guy stealing the note from the Wall right down to the publication.
Posted by: Kristi | July 28, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
To Anon…
So many confuse religion with doctrine a person may acknowledge his or her religion anywhere he or she chooses, it is the dictates of its doctrine which should impede on or deny the civil liberties of persons.
Posted by: Curtis J | July 28, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
PEOPLE TALK ABOUT HIM, SAYING HE IS AN UNGODLY MAN, WHEN HE DOES PRAY, YOU STILL SAY HE IS FAKE. LOOK THERE IS A SAYING IN THE CHURCH, THERE ARE SAINTS AND THERE ARE AINT’S.NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES, SOME PEOPLE ALWAYS SEEM TO TALK NEGATIVE ABOUT HIM. DAMM IF YOU DO DAMM IF YOU DON’T. GOD BLESS YOU BARACK AND HAVE HIS ANGLES TO PROTECT AND GUIDE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
Posted by: marian | July 28, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
If it is so intrusive and if a Rabbi tells you that the notes placed between the stones of the Western Wall are between a person and his maker. It is forbidden to read them or make any use of them, then why did YOU just publicize the contents of that note? You have no personal integrity.
Posted by: tom | July 29, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
I knew the Obama Kotel note was a transparent PR-Stunt the minute I read it’s content. This was a deliberate effort to counter the public image Obama has earned, of being elitest, snobbish, and high-browed. “…guard against pride and despair” ? Come on, can it be any more obvious ? “pride” ? He needs to be guarded from “pride”, because everybody has seen how tremendous his ego is – and he knows it. Puhleeeaze !
Posted by: Barack Is God | August 12, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
How naive are we going to be, just back up and look at these two pictures? This is the same man who sat on the floor of congress and denied the rights of a living breathing child, who survived an abortion. He voted NO, this living child should not receive medical care or be allowed to live. CHECK HIS VOTING RECORDS IT’S A FACT. This is the man who sat and listen to hatred and slander for years in a church then denied knowledge of the message. Then picture him writing this prayer and putting it in the wall. Sorry it just does not add up. Jesus who he says he serves was an expression of ultimate love, you be the judge does the above facts sound like love.
Posted by: beau | August 15, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
She’s not too bright. She
was asked in a recent tv
interview what are duties
of the Vice President.
She drew a blank.
You can google and find
out in a few minutes what
the Veep does.
Mr. Mediocrity McCain picks
Ms. Mediocrity from Alaska
who is not a woman of substance.
Posted by: anon | September 2, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm