RNC Plans Ad Assault
ABC News’ Rick Klein Reports: The Republican National Committee is planning its first round of advertising to support Sen. John McCain’s candidacy, with an initial wave of ads set to run this weekend in four swing states, Republican officials tell ABC News.
The RNC’s initial buy of approximately $3 million will target the differences between McCain and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., on energy policy. The ads — produced and purchased by the Republican Party’s newly established independent expenditure arm — will air in Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, according to GOP officials.
“Following Barack Obama’s decision to become the only major party presidential candidate in history to not adhere to campaign spending caps, the Republican National Committee has begun an independent expenditure campaign in accordance with FEC regulations,” Brad Todd, who was named this week to head up the party’s independent expenditure arm, said in a statement provided to ABC News.
“The RNC will first advertise this weekend in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, highlighting the issue of energy security, which is emerging as a defining difference in the race for president,” Todd said. He declined to discuss the content of the ads in further detail.
Under federal law, the RNC can spend only $19.1 million in coordination with the McCain campaign. But it can spend unlimited sums through its independent expenditure entity, which legally cannot have any contact with RNC officials or the McCain campaign.
Such help will be critical for McCain particularly in light of Obama’s decision to reject public-financing spending limits. Some observers expect Obama to outspend McCain by a margin of 3- or 4-1 during the final two months of the campaign. With no major 527 groups emerging on the GOP side, the RNC will be charged with making up as much of that difference as possible.
Todd, a founding partner of the GOP ad firm OnMessage Inc., most recently handled ads for Gov. Bobby Jindal’s, R-La., 2007 gubernatorial race. In the 2006 cycle, his clients included Maryland Senate candidate Michael Steele and Michigan governor’s candidate Dick DeVos.
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I hope the ads show that McCain is all about oil companies, gas tax holiday gimmicks, and off shore drilling that will do NOTHING to lower gas prices but screw up our environment.
Posted by: Betty | July 2, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
And so it begins… The GOP picked the best issue to target Obama over. Energy is a surprising achilles heel for Obama.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | July 2, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Obama flip flopped… or at least he didn’t keep his word. The RNC is doing what it needs to do. McCain’08 Clinton’12
Posted by: Giovanni | July 2, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
This is not news! The RNC has nothing good to say about anyone, even McCain. So, in a pathetic attempt to stay in the game, they do what they always do – attack anyone who has a different idea or thought rather than focus on what McCain could do to show he is a better candidate. Washington is a joke because the RNC and the DNC don’t give a hoot about the real issues we care about.
Posted by: blurp | July 2, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
McCain should never accuse Sen. Obama of ‘flip-flopping’ when he has flopped on the following issues: MLK Holiday, Confederate flag controversy, S. African Divestment, GI Bill, Grassroots Lobbying Bill, Immigration, Gay Marriage, Abortion, Storage of Nuclear Waste, Military action against rogue states, negotiating with enemy dictators and terrorist, warrantless wiretapping, torture, Iraq War, Bush tax cuts, Estate tax, win-fall profit tax, privatizing social security, Balance Budget, Bush fundraisers, Offshore drilling and Swift boat ads/attacks. McCain clearly has been one of the most inconsistent presidential candidates throughout his political career and his track record proves that he cannot be trusted as he so aptly claimed about Sen. Obama.
Posted by: peoples_prez | July 2, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
peoples_prez:
Go through and list sources for all of the things you mentioned. After you prove every single one of those look at this: http://giorocks.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/olie-a-thon/
And then decide who flip flopped more.
Posted by: Giovanni | July 2, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Good – Someone must Vet this radical fraud obama – before it is too late.
OBama CHANGES his message daily for political gain. Let the GOP – Attack – let the people know all about this fraud!
Posted by: Molly | July 2, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
how dare the republicans whine about someone spending more money they sicken me.they are makeing sure its kept under the hat all the other funds they will use in campaign adds, every thing they are about is against american workers, the entire party are 2 faced liarslook what they did with total control of washington for 6 years. now they blame the dems for not getting anything done when infact they are blocking any legislation to help americans, they are corperate santa clauses, what a pathetic pack of voltures
Posted by: joe | July 2, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
The real assault has been going on for 7.5 years, the assault on our basic freedoms, the environment, the middle class, etc. Who cares about the next round of Swift Boat lies? I have already heard enough, and no amount of negative advertising from the garbage mongers on the right will ever win my vote.
Posted by: DM | July 2, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Molly says: “Obama CHANGES his message daily for political gain.”
So I’ll re-post peoples_prez’s excellent comment, just for her:
“McCain should never accuse Sen. Obama of ‘flip-flopping’ when he has flopped on the following issues: MLK Holiday, Confederate flag controversy, S. African Divestment, GI Bill, Grassroots Lobbying Bill, Immigration, Gay Marriage, Abortion, Storage of Nuclear Waste, Military action against rogue states, negotiating with enemy dictators and terrorist, warrantless wiretapping, torture, Iraq War, Bush tax cuts, Estate tax, win-fall profit tax, privatizing social security, Balance Budget, Bush fundraisers, Offshore drilling and Swift boat ads/attacks. McCain clearly has been one of the most inconsistent presidential candidates throughout his political career and his track record proves that he cannot be trusted as he so aptly claimed about Sen. Obama”
Posted by: wilder5121 | July 2, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
John SIDNEY McCain III needs all the help he can get. Since he is such a weak candidate about all the RNC can do is try to tarnish the image of his opponent. McCain will give lip service to running an honorable campaign even while the RNC runs “independent” negative ads. Are we sure McCain wasn’t on a swift boat in Vietnam? He sure seems ready to adopt their strategies in order to get elected.
Posted by: fletc3her | July 2, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
obama joined and abandoned the same church purely to further his political career…..change you can believe is more of the same….
Posted by: chris | July 2, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
The RNC gonna say Obama has an illegitimate black “love child”…like they did with McCain in 2000?
Posted by: wilder5121 | July 2, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
The RNC gonna say Obama is a “Manchurian Candidate…brainwashed by the Viet Cong”…like they did with McCain in 2000?
Posted by: wilder5121 | July 2, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Where in this article is the word ‘assault’ used? This yet another example of irresponsible journalism.
Posted by: tadlar | July 2, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Well we all knew it was coming. The only thing the gop is really good at. The lies and innuendos. When it comes to stretching the truth and outright lying noone excells more than they do. That is why the favorite button on my tv remote is the MUTE button.
Posted by: con me not | July 2, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Hillary supporters,
This coming ad blitz would have been against Hillary and Bill had she won the Democratic nomination. When the GOP starts attacking Michelle, I hope you realize they would have treated Hillary the same way. The Republicans know how to attack. They have had plenty of practice with Hillary.
Posted by: tony | July 2, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Interesting that the republican spin machine is now using the phrase “Obama’s decision to reject public-financing spending limits.”
The real truth is that Obama is being financed by the public on an uprecedented scale, while 90% of McCain’s money comes from PACs and Lobbyists who would have used the broken “public financing” to limit Obama while spending vast sums “off the radar”.
Obama made a shrewd and wise choice and I wouldn’t have respected him if he caved to this lie that use of “public financing” is somehow “playing by the rules”.
Posted by: CJ | July 2, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
4 More Wars! 4 More Wars! Spend some time attacking that.
Posted by: Joe Cass | July 2, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Well it’s about friggin’ time! I was wondering if the RNC and Repubs were ever going to finally start fighting back. We are going to need everything we can to fight these hateful Marxist Stalino-facist bastards from stifling dissent, silencing those who disagree, and robbing us of all of our freedom. These MoveOn.org groupies do this all in the name of their self-proclaimed and condescending belief that only a holy, pious government that implements their twisted version of morality is the end all, do all solution to all of our problems and the alpha and the omega that must be obeyed.
Posted by: Crusader | July 2, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Obama is a weak, confused, unpatriotic, radical left-wing candidate. Way to go Dems, giving us yet another unelectable candidate. Another noble loser, like Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry.
Posted by: Jane | July 2, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
“Following Barack Obama’s decision to become the only major party presidential candidate in history to not adhere to campaign spending caps, the Republican National Committee has begun an independent expenditure campaign in accordance with FEC regulations,”
Yea right. It’s Obama’s fault. Playing to the extreme right of their party. Firm them up boys, there is nobody else to get.
Posted by: Thinking | July 2, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Well it’s about friggin’ time! I was wondering if the RNC and Repubs were ever going to finally start fighting back. We are going to need everything we can to fight these hateful Marxist Stalino-facist bastards from stifling dissent, silencing those who disagree, and robbing us of all of our freedom. These MoveOn.org groupies do this all in the name of their self-proclaimed and condescending belief that only a holy, pious government that implements their twisted version of morality is the end all, do all solution to all of our problems and the alpha and the omega that must be obeyed.
Posted by: Crusader | July 2, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Tony, Hillary said that Obama was not qualified to become PTUS..nothing has changed except dollars from his hand to hers!! She threw the majority of 18 million voters under the bus for a few dollars! She should have stuck with her word and told Obama and the DNC to shove it..so now you think she deserves our loyalty….no way will the majority of Hillary voters vote for Obama…we took her at her work…Obama is not qualified!!! She would have gotten more respect had she not sold herself and her credibility!
Posted by: mfmros | July 2, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
mfmros -
You should stay home feeding BhO’s dogs.
HRC did what she has to do, unless you want her to become Liberman.
It has nothing to do with money, although BhO frames it that way.
Posted by: skinny dog | July 2, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
The American people are tired of all the lies the GOP are dishing out and it will show in the General Elections when President Obama would cream McSame.
President Obama – get use to it!
Posted by: ob08 | July 2, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
prisoners released in columbia—–how convenient— how much did mr nafta sell us out for now—-columbia sure wants our jobs and money—–i sure would have liked to be a fly on the wall to hear this deal—–i guess we will hear about torture and a whole lot of repub pr.how long was this in the plans to glorify mcbush.
Posted by: rodney | July 2, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
jane
and give us another bush way to go—-this one is dumb and senile–cannot remember where sudan is.
Posted by: rodney | July 2, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
When Barack Obama announced he would not be accepting public funds, he sited that attacks would be launched from entities not paid by John McCain’s campaign.
Alas, he was right. Amazing how hollow the attacks on his choice not to have his campaign finances limited seem now.
Unfortunately for us, McCain and the RNC will almost certainly bombard us with manufactured claims, lies, and distortions practically continuously for the next 4 months. Just like they did to John Kerry in 2004.
So much for the straight talk express. The onslaught of slurs will just show that McCain is cut from the same cloth as George Bush. Such a shame too, as McCain actually is more honorable than that.
Posted by: Mickey | July 2, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
it is amazing after 5 years of war and every concievable blunder high fuel prices —no jobs–the repubs at election time will change and tell us what we want to hear—and if they get back in it all will start all over again—skunk cannot change his stripes.
Posted by: rodney | July 2, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Skinnydog….you mean to tell me that Hillary NOW thinks Obama is qualified..why did she go so far into debt and why would she run at all if she thought he was qualified? Was her word not to be trusted? She did not have to go independant…she could have just told the dnc that she would not back him and call it a day! She gambled and she lost…now she wants to recoup her money by selling her crediblity to Obama…I would not call that in the best interest of her supporters! Money talks and bs walks!
Posted by: mfmros | July 2, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
HRC implied that Obama was unqualified because she was trying to beat him. Duh. She failed to beat him, so now it is on to plan B.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 2, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
scott
when all the truth comes out about mccain the public will be shocked—this guy was and is a failure at all he has been involved in—dumbest in all his classes—and now people want him to run our country–remember it takes someone with a sharp mind and a goon education–top of the class not the bottom
Posted by: rodney | July 2, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
The dems are digging their own graves by promoting an affirmative action phony. Pity, what a pity.
Posted by: skinny dog | July 2, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
“Barack Obama has asked for this to be a non-mud-slinging election season.”
It’s nice when you can have your minions(Clark) sling the mud, so you can keep your hands nice and clean. Change my a$$.
Posted by: Mack | July 2, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
“Barack Obama has asked for this to be a non-mud-slinging election season.”
Who is the one who framed Joe Biden as a racist for praising him, and who framed the Clintons as playing racist card in the primaries?
Yeah, slinging butt.
Posted by: fact check | July 2, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Mack – Exactly what “mud” was Clark supposed to have slung? A reporter asked him if Obama was at a disadvantage because he hadn’t had a plane shot down and he said No.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 2, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Well there is certainly lots and lots and lots of mud to be slung at Obama. It’s pats time to start calling Obama out.
Posted by: chattyway | July 2, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Clarks comment was a cheap shot…meant as an emotional attack on McCain’s military service…a poor attempt to neutralize the only candidates with military service military record. Obama’s camp orchestrated it in hopes a dumb insult by another military guy (not even a good military guy) would somehow work. It failed and the attack was seen for what it was a childish name calling gimmick. Obama’s comments about Clark and his flip flopping over this subject won’t cover this up. If Obama had been 1/2 a man, he would have said yeah I have no military experience, but I am willing to learn and work with service men and women…but nope again he shows his true colors—yellow.
Posted by: chattyway | July 2, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Three years ago Obama was fixing parking tickets and zoning neighborhoods. Anyone who can honestly vote for him to be President of the United States is just not thinking straight. Seriously, not thinking at all. And hating the Bush administration is not a policy and is not a reason to vote for Obama because there is NO reason to vote for Obama.
Posted by: Chas | July 2, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
FLIP-FLOP seems to be the buzzword lately
but YOU ALL should know, they BOTH have flip-flopped in the past couple of months…….
the issues they have flip-flopped on is important…
For McCain and Obama have opted out of public financing……both not keeping their word to accept it….
for Obama he opted out because he can make more money from the people…..McCain opted out in response, but also because he took out a loan against his general election funds that he is not paying back…..stealing?
Energy, McCain is on both sides of the issue so he hasnt flip-flopped….he wants clean renewable energy and offered a 300Million prize for a better car battery…..but he also wants to lift sanctions to give big oil more places, than they already have and dont need, to drill…..doesnt make sense…
Obama wants to invest 10billion over the next 10 years for R&D in the Green sector and get our Veterans green training and counseling for when they return……mccain diddnt even want to give the veterans any educational benefits under the new GI Bill,which he opposed, american hero my A$$
Mcbush is very fitting…..
Posted by: Oregon4Obama | July 2, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
How is Clark’s comment a cheap shot? He was asked a question whether McCain’s service record related to his qualifications for president. Clark said that John Sidney McCain was a hero, but that one’s war record does not automatically qualify a person to be president. I agree with that (and apparently so did George Bush, who had no problem attacking John Kerry’s war record).
Gio’s list of Obama “flip flops” is actually just a list of smears on Obama, most of which are not substantiated (most of the “evidence” he cites are statements made by conservative bloggers). I suggest you review fightthesmears.com.
Posted by: Craig | July 2, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
In contrast to Chas’ statement…three years ago, John Sidney McCain was eating cake and laughing with GWB while citizens of New Orleans were drowning and waiting for rescue. Don’t believe me?
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/24/flashback-as-katrina-raged-mccain-celebrated-69th-birthday-with-bush/
I agree that voting against a third Bush term is not the ONLY reason to vote for Obama, but it is a pretty good reason.
Posted by: Craig | July 2, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
idea4u: that would not work because it would disinfranchise Third Party Candidates even more.
Posted by: Giovanni | July 2, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Bring it on, RNC.
Obama looks set to take Ohio anyway.
Posted by: Mokopane | July 2, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
People, all you have to do is look at BHO’s voting record during his time in the Senate… His is the MOST liberal of any of them. Elect him, and you will discover that BHO will be the “step ‘n’ fetch it” for Moveon, Huffington Post and Daily Kos, and will return this country to the Carter administration years quicker than you can say, “Reverend Wright.”
Posted by: anon | July 2, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Stop picking on McCain. If you were running on Bush’s record you wouldn’t exactly want to visit too many places in the US either.
Posted by: Miri NY | July 2, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Clark’s comments were correct. Being shot down and spending 5 years as a POW doesn’t give you the kind of experience needed to be president.
Posted by: Paul | July 2, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
OBAMA’S ARTISTRY OF THE AMBIGUOUS – It is not his lack of experience that will work against him.
Obama would be well served by his hired help if it could move him to specifics on numerous critical fronts.
Voters are looking for definitive action while they battle overwhelming increases in costs on all fronts.
http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-artistry-of-ambiguous.html
Posted by: PacificGatePost | July 2, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Paul, I’m betting you could not survive one day without a shower. Just what qualifications does Obama bring to the table? A racist past, few ties to America, friends who are convicted felons and bomb-throwers, being a brave man and voting “present” while in the Illinois Senate? That all ranks really high in my book of who I don’t want as my president.
Posted by: To Paul | July 2, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
McCain Test: Staying alive and sane in a rat cage for five years.
Obama test: To wear or not to wear a flag lapel pin.
Posted by: Mary | July 2, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Finally the RNC is gearing up to “Swiftboat” the pansy. Where will Obama’s the next photo op take place? The man is spinning faster than a teacup ride – and about as exciting.
Posted by: Obama is Not for Me | July 2, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
How dare anyone put up ads except Obama?
He is the only voice for change! I can’t wait until everything, and I mean everything, changes. This country is in the worst position ever, even worse than in the Depression or the Civil War, or World War II.
We are on the wrong path! Once Obama gets in there, he is going to tear it up. Change it up…with a changerific attitude. Jobs for everyone, and the homeless people will have jobs, and everything. And the rich people will pay more taxes like they are supposed to.
Oh, and no more wars, ever! And we will have respect in the world, finally. Automatically.
…finally those rich republican fatcatasses, repuli-neocon whores with devil horns in league with Geohn McSame the warmonger Hitler jr will get put up against the wall…oops, said too much.
Posted by: Wade | July 2, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
I’m so glad that Obama is not adhering to the campaign cap. I will send my checks in monthly to make sure that we can get rid of the GOP attack machine that has bought up all media corportations in the U.S. WHAT LIBERAL MEDIA IS THERE? Mccain will turn this country into a place where are kids will be dying because we don’t no when to say enough is enough. AND if MCCAIN wins by some unlikely chance, then i hope this country crashes and I will be sitting here saying I told you so
Posted by: Jeff Reece | July 2, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
ANd another thing, those who supported Hillary Clinton, stop being so like you lost. We had two great candidates. Now i would have been really upset if Clinton would have won, but GET OVER IT…Its time to cream MCCAIN. PUT HER ON The ticket and take back Washington
Posted by: OBAMA08 | July 2, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
You said it Wade. We are the change that we’ve all been waiting for! All we need is to hope for a better tomorrow.
Posted by: Mack | July 2, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
history has proven the gop lie to get people to vote for them!! you’d have to be a moron to just assume what they say is true, but they have mccain and have nothing to lose cause they arent going to win just on his ability alone. when even the republicans didnt want to see him as president and he cant get his own right wing base to follow him that has to say something when he is following all the bush issues and has changed all his “liberal” thinking.
he’s a loose canon just waiting to explode thats what we need right now more wars over pride and anger?
Posted by: melissa | July 2, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
to all you blind rethuglicans……Hillary went into so much debt because she knew the dems candidate was a shoe-in……..so why would she not go to the last possible moment ……Hucklby or whatever his name is held out why not Hillary……..nice try RNC……Obama will call you then raise you 1000
Posted by: Country folk | July 2, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Peoples Prez: McCain can’t be trusted. What have you been reading. McCain has never attended a racist white hating anti-american church for 20 years like Obama did. That’s makes Obama not a true American and its people like you that would vote for a candidate like Obama. McCain is a true American. Obama is faking everything he says and does and the American people eat up his speeches that he copied from RFK including the words hope and change believing he is so great. I agree with Rush, Obama cannot do anything for himself. If elected president this country is in for a disaster and I agree with Joe we could be attacked because they already know Obama doesn’t know the ropes about foreign policy or politics. They must be dancing in the streets hoping he gets elected so they can plan their attack.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | July 2, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Anyone else notice the Obama’s camp self defense mechanism. It is quit telling psychologically. Given all of Obama’s flaws when any start to mention them they attack much like a bunch of kids on a playground. The ignore their “Obama’s” actions and start trying to claim others act just as bad so their messiah is exempt from critism whats even funnier is that anyone no matter how unrelated to McCain actions justify their crooked lying leaders many instances of very bad behavior.
Posted by: chattyway | July 2, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Wade: You certainly did say too much and you didn’t make sense. The know nothing, do nothing wanna be president Obama is not going to do what he says. Get a grip. There still will be thousands of homeless people on the street, he won’t know how to balance the budget and clean up the deficit, he doesn’t know on thing about foreign policy and will no be ready on day one. For a Harvard graduate he certainly has many people fooled when he speaks on the platform with copies of RFK speeches that he has a book on. Was a racist white hating anti-american for 20 years attending a racist church listening to a racist pastor. That’s what you call true American? And he’s running for president of our country?
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | July 2, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
chattyway. I don’t think Obama is exempt from criticism. We criticize him all the time. But I will defend him against smears and lies and charcter assasination every chance i get. Your deep need to hate him is getting a little creepy.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 2, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Mariann Pepitone
You seem to be another one with this deep need to hate Obama no matter what. You obviously do not consider the possibility that some of your judgements might be mistaken, so either you are just talking trash on purpose, or your hatred is overwhelming you. Not pretty either way.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 2, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
To Paul: You made the right statement. I don’t want racist white hating anti-american as my president. I can’t understand the people of this country voting for a candidate like him unless they are just like him. McCain is a true American and would never attend a church like the one Obama attended. Obama knew that pastor was racist and so was he that’s why he joined it. Now he broke away from Wright to satisfy the American public but I still believe he talks to him on the phone. And he is also friends with Ayers who bombed this country three times. That’s just what we need coming to the white house, Wright, Farrakhan, Dorn, Ayers, Father P. and his whole family from Kenya. What a mess that white house would be in. Obama doesn’t have the intelligence to run this country even graduating from Harvard. He couldn’t win a debate and stammers sometimes when asked a question because he has to think what the answer is. I am a democrat voting for McCain and so is my family and friends. Let’s hope he wins.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | July 2, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Nonsense Jock…for instance take Mariann last post located about 3 above your last post. Notice the poor attempt at justifying Obama extremely poor choice of church and personal mentor of Reverend Racist Wright with all his loud mouth ugly sermons and his support of terrorists such as Hamas and idiolizing Farrakan? We all know that Wright’s comments would have been impossible to not hear and no sane parent would expose their kids to this church or this man. However, Notice the defense mechanism kick in by this Mari Obama supporter—–basically trying to justify Obamas bad pasteur by completely making up nonsense about McCains?
Posted by: chattyway | July 2, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
Ooops sorry Mari..that is Obama supporters that Mari is referring to. I didn’t mean to imply you would defend Obama.
Posted by: chattyway | July 2, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
chattyway-
I don’t condone attacks against McCain any more than against Obama. I’m getting sick and tired of all this juvenile hate-fest. You accuse people who you don’t even know of being hateful and racist, but you don’t even notice all the frothing at the mouth you are doing to get it out.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 2, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Crusader: I agree with you 100%. It is about time the RNC attacked Obama and they should have done it over a month ago. It too bad that Rice won’t take the VP position but I believe she turned it down because Obama is half black and she is all black and she didn’t want to compete with him. She should have accepted it. Obama would have without hesitation. The media states Obama is doing good without the Clintons, if so, why does he want Hillary and Bill to campaign with him. Maybe he already knows there are states that are racial and will not vote for him so he needs help. If I was Hillary I would say to him, what’s in it for me? I either be the VP or not campaigning.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | July 2, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Mariann Pepitone
I don’t want a racist white hating anti-american as my president either. Good thing there isn’t one running.
And what do you have against Obama’s family in Kenya?
Posted by: jock59801 | July 2, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Jock: Listen Jock, its people like you that would vote for a candidate like Obama even if he had a prison record. Face the facts as they are because Obama cannot deny any of them. Yes, he did belong to a racist church for 20 years that hated white people and was anti-american. Are you trying to tell me that Obama wasn’t racist and white hating? You better read more about him. I read his bio in the NYT. Obama was a racist at a young age even starting to dislike his mother and grandmother. That’s why he joined that church and his children were baptized there? What kind of father and mother would have their children hear a sermon by Wright. Was Obama bringing his children up to be racist also? Get a grip.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | July 2, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
i really dont understand my fellow democrats,is party and winning more important than perserving this country?in obama you have a person that has associated with known communists ,participated in very shady deals and associations with the likes of tony rezko and who has lied consistantly.on the other hand you have mcain who on the forrestal as a young man during a terrible fire on deck risked his life to save another shipmate.this is a matter of characture and obama does not have any while mcain by his actions that day and also when he refused early release showed it in spades.
Posted by: don tufts | July 2, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Marianne -
I think you are the one who needs to get a grip. Your haterd is completely out of control. Yes, I am trying to tell you that Obama is not racist or white-hating, because there is absouletly nothing to say he is. If yuo actually read his book rather than a newspaper article, you owuld know that he did NOT hate his mother and grandmother. He loved them very much. But you CAN’T believe that, because then your hatred would not be justified and you might have to stop hating.
I have never accused anyone of being racist and I’m not going to start now, but you really should re-read some of your comments to see if this is really how you want to be viewed.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 2, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
mfmros: I totally agree with you. The DNC especially Dean and Nancy went behind the scenes to make sure the superdelegates voted for Obama. Nancy is jealous of Hillary and didn’t want Hillary to have that power. Nancy wants to be the worman in power. I would not have endorsed him or campaigned for him if I was Hillary. Obama also talked to the superdelegates no doubt making deals with them. He is a fake and a liar and I can’t believe how thousands of American people can eat up his garbage he is selling to them. Obama is going to be a dictator if elected and this country will be in a disaster. I know the terrorists are dancing in the streets. They are waiting for him to become president so they can plan their attack.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | July 2, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
don tufts
This is ALL about preserving this country. That is my only goal. Preserving a country that is actually still worth defending.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 2, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Same old trashy republican tactics. As usual the republicans have no solutions or plans and attack ads are their only hope.
Posted by: bushrots | July 2, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Mariann -
Never mind. That last comment of yours was borderline insane. I am going to leave you to froth at the mouth and go back top the real world where Americans still love decency.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 2, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Jock: Evidently you don’t read too well. Obama did not like his mother’s race and he did become a racist at a younger age. You need to get a grip. I already read it. And it wasn’t just a newspaper article it was a whole bio of his family and himself. You are not going to make me believe that attending a racist white hating anti-american doesn’t make you in the same category. Why would you attend it for 20 years then. He would still be going there if Wright didn’t make that sermon. Why do you think the media kept playing that video? And telling the truth is not racist its real. Its people like you that don’t know which way the wind is blowing.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | July 2, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Oil companies paying for the Republican candidate’s attack ads??? – If you still don’t get it, you’re brain dead.
Posted by: hiendurance | July 2, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Jock: You say whatever comes into your head. Obama is lucky if he knows all his family over there. His father was married and divorced four times and his mother three times. There are eight or more children involved. And he only knows his half sister in Hawaii. And yes, you didn’t read the part where he said he was starting to hate his mother’s race. And Dreams Of My Father? His father abandoned him how could his father have dreams for him. His mother was educating him as a young boy not his father.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | July 2, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Mariann – not to sound like I’m attacking you, but you sound like a gossipy old lady with all your psuedo-factoids. I know it’s a fool who looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart, but can’t you try to get informed on some important issues that will make a difference for our children?
Posted by: hiendurance | July 2, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Jock: You talk of decency? Don’t make me laugh. It was stated on the internet over a week ago that 52% of college students are on drugs. And what about the babies born out of wedlock everyday. That’s decency? This generation is fast moving. When the Cubs are in town you can’t even see the bar due to the fact of all the boozers and I have seen many of them almost drunk getting on the “L”. Decency is when you live decent.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | July 2, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
hiendurance: What issues are you talking about. Are you talking about the issues Obama is lying about to get elected? Don’t worry about the issues, your responsibility is raising your children not the president’s. And what can you do about the issues you don’t like? Nothing. The trouble with people like you and others you don’t want to hear the truth when its told. Obama can’t change the world and he never said what changes he would make if any. I can read him like a book without the cover. I have voted for several president’s and he is the worst candidate that ever ran for president of this country. He is no Bill Clinton and never will be. And true Americans do not belong to a racist church.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | July 2, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Nice to know that us Americans really know how to stick to the issues.
Posted by: Jordan | July 2, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Trinity Church was a turning point, Obama is not electable, Clinton was right. As soon as the Republicans get these commercials out, everyone will know, the only people supporting Obama are young and in the dark about who he is. Clinton did not go after Obama the way she should have. I do not believe for one minute that Obama was sincere when he denounced Wright. PUMA Democrat voting McCain.
Posted by: rogersm234 | July 2, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Obama’s character is his biggest issue.
Posted by: rogersm234 | July 2, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Rick,
This is not the 80′s! Obama is not Dukakis. The good old boys, better watch out, this is the 21 st Century and it will bite then right in the ASS! The great grand son of Geronimo, is here, am I not? The truth seeker lives on, in me. Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.
Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | July 2, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Mariann – Thanks for explaining yourself, everyone has a right to opinions and yours are just as valid as the next guys. It sounds like you have a good heart and just want what’s best for our country. I think that is what the vast majority wants too – we just all have different ideas. Happy 4th ! -Bob
Posted by: hiendurance | July 2, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Mariann – We want to hear the truth, we just dont’ believe you’re telling it. You say Obama isn’t about change, we say he’s as much about change as any politician has ever been. You say he’s racist. We know him better than that. The fact to the matter is that this election is too important to be narrow-minded, prejudiced and as petty as you are.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | July 2, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
The problem with Obama supporters is they don’t care if Obama was part of an openly racist church. They do not even care if Obama has anti-Americana ssociates. Obama supporters behave more like a cult, they even attack their own Democratic Party, this is why Obama only has sixty percent of his own party.
Posted by: rogersm234 | July 2, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
The problem with Obama supporters is that they’re watching their candidate march toward the presidency of the United States and can hardly hold back their excitement.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | July 2, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Many Democrats do not believe Obama will actually get the nomination,many delegates may turn on him by August. If he some how does get the nomination, Hillary Democrats will make certain victory goes to McCain. Then PUMA will go on a mission to shake up the DNC, and toss all those responsible for this out, or will be breaking away from the DNC for good and staring a new Party.
Posted by: rogersm234 | July 2, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
That sounds like a conspiracy theory. This is Obama’s election to win. He can only stop himself. He’s in the driver’s seat. The GOP’s only hope really is that he makes some type of Spitzer-esque mistake. They can’t swift-boat him like Kerry. It will be fun to watch them try and fail though.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | July 2, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
First of all people need to learn what “racist” is. Just because something doe not put a white person on top does not mean its racist against whites. Racism is the belief that one racist of people are superior to another. Nothing the Obamas or the Trinty church has said has ever suggested they are better or superior to whites because some of them are white. In fact over 90% of the denomination are white. The real racist people are those of you out there who say you are a democrat but don’t want to vote for your candidate because he is a racist. You are pushing your own racist beliefs off on him. You seem to be angry that there is not a white person at top. That to you is antiwhite which is racist in that is suggests that whites are superior and should always be at the top. Truthfully, that is the sad part because it shows that in the 21c there are that many racist people in this country. To now suggest Obama shouldn’t run because a a black person he can’t win. That’s just racist and ridiculous because it would suggest no black person can ever run and white people would always be on top, the definition of racism. So for all of the rogersm234 and Mariann Pepitone look to your self before you accuse others of racism. If you don’t like the fact that someone other than a white person can be head of state leave American, got to England there you are guaranteed a white head of state or maybe some place in Scandinavia. Here in America we have a multicultural society and you don’t have such guarantees.
Posted by: Jason | July 2, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Words like racist, communist, anti- American, flip-flopper, etc. have no real meaning, but are just inaccurate general terms meant to smear a persons character without having to offer any evidence or proof. I prefer the term “dumb crackers” myself when describing my good friends from the right side of the political spectrum. Don’t worry Jason and others – there’s only about 20% of them our there and this time the dumb crackers won’t get their way no matter how much they lie and whine about patriotism!
Posted by: hiendurance | July 2, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
And its also interesting to note that that people question Obama’s integrity and military service and patriotism and ignore the alternative, how honest and patriotic is he putting his comrades in danger to get benefits for himself? Not to mention he lost 5 planes costing the military about $31,337,119.58 in 2007 money:
After being periodically slapped around for “three or four days” by his captors who wanted military information from him, McCain called for an officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, “O.K., I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.” -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain “When the communist learned that McCain’s father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital (U.S. government documents), a medical facility normally unavailable for U.S. POWs. ” “Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship’s name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant.” Page 193-194, Faith of My Fathers by John McCain And as for being tortured, last week on the BBC his jailer endorsed him saying that he and John were friends and John was never tortured. In fact, John taught him English slang and drank tea and played chess with him. I understand not trusting him but also
“Phoenix New Times, March 25, 1999—Two former POWs, Air Force Colonels Ted Guy and Gordon “Swede” Larson, said in a feature article that while they could not guarantee that McCain was not physically harmed, they doubted it. Both Guy and Larson were senior ranking officers (SRO’s) in McCain’s POW camp at a time he claims he was in solitary confinement and being tortured.
Larson told the New Times, “Between the two of us, it’s our belief, and to the best of our knowledge, that no prisoner was beaten or harmed physically in that camp [known as ‘The Plantation’].
“My only contention with the McCain deal is that while he was at The Plantation, to the best of my knowledge and Ted’s knowledge, he was not physically abused in any way. No one was in that camp. It was the camp that people were released from.””
Posted by: Jason | July 2, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Oh and how much does Mccain like America??
not much more than Michelle Obama…
Mccain: “I didn’t really love America until I was deprived of her company.”
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/22/mccains-unpatriotic-words-caught-on-tape/
Posted by: Jason | July 2, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Obama voted FOR the Bush/Cheney energy policy that was concocted behind closed doors with the oil companies and resulted in huge tax breaks and benefits for those same oil companies. McCain and Hillary voted AGAINST it. That’s all you need to know to figure out who is really in the pockets of the big energy companies, and I’ll give you a clue, it’s not McCain. Wake up, Obama fans, do the research and find out how much of his money is really from those “grassroots” folks he keeps bragging about. He is heavily supported by Wall Street (privatization of social security?), the financial community, the energy companies, much more than McCain. Go to noquarterusa.net to read the facts, and then realize that you are being played for patsys by the biggest fraud to come down the pike in the history of this country.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | July 2, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Think you know who this man is?
This possible President of the United States ?? Read Below and ask yourselves, is this REALLY someone we can see as the president of our great nation!!!!
Below are a few lines from Obama’s books; In his words
From Dreams of My Father: ‘I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.’
From Dreams of My Father : ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.’
From Dreams of My Father: ‘There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.’
From Dreams of My Father: ‘It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.’
From Dreams of My Father: ‘I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa , that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.’
And FINALLY the Most Damming one of ALL of them!!
From Audacity of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’
Posted by: Al | July 2, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
The latest PEW poll shows nearly half of those surveyed — or 47 percent — now rate energy exploration, drilling and building new power plants as the top priority, compared with 35 percent who believed that five months ago. The number of people who consider energy conservation as more important declined by 10 percentage points since February from a clear majority to 45 percent. The number of people who said they considered increasing energy supplies more important than protecting the environment increased from 54 percent in February to 60 percent and the number of people who favor oil drilling in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge also increased. The number of Democrats who said they saw increased production as the top priority jumped by 16 percentage points since February to 46 percent.
Obama and the Dems and their no drilling attitude could be in danger. The American people want increased drilling. This will immediately take the pressure off prices as even the thought of increased supplies in the future will quiet the buying fever.
I hope the Republicans show that Obama is not qualified to be President. No leadership in the State Senate or COngress, no experience as an executive or in negotiating passage of bills, and no experience in foreign policy. He is the least experienced candidate in over 50 years.
Posted by: jschmidt | July 2, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Obama cult members have been programed to call anyone not voting for Obama a racist. There is something worse than being a racist, and that is being called a racist when you are not one. Trying to bully people into voting for your candidate by calling them a racist, just makes your candidate look bad. Obama supporters are his worse enemy.
Posted by: rogersm234 | July 2, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
I’m glad to see the RNC come at Obama on energy. Obama has no idea about energy and how to precipitate a plan to help America right now. All he wants to do is increase the captital gains tax which will inevitably destroy our economy even worse. Added to this, the idea of insuring the illegal aliens under the same plan that the officials receive in Washington….and oh yes, he wants to give illegals drivers license…where does this guy get off. I am glad that today the evangelicals are going to back McCain. I’m Southern Baptist, and the SBC is 5 million strong, a HUGE support and endorsment for McCain! Along with the SBC, the Catholics and other protestants are supporting McCain….Obama just cannot talk out of both sides of his mouth and expects to win. The GOP is on a role, McCain will prevail. So long NoBama,you did make the election interesting!
Posted by: Will | July 2, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
The nerve of Obama supporters to think the presidency is already his. Hmmnn, you’ll have buyer’s remorse once you see your tax increase. He pledges to help Israel, what a fake! OBAMA IS A FAKE LEFT WING LIBERAL!
Posted by: Fairview Chick | July 2, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
I am not a Bush fan by any means, however, it appears that Obama is becoming more aligned with Bush and his message by moving to the center. It’s almost like Obama is an “heir” to Bush! Boy, has Obama pulled the wool over his supporters…..with the GOP about to attack, I want front row seats…its going to be fun to watch Obama go down!
Posted by: ObamaIsNoGood | July 2, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Fairview Chick this is America not Israel that he is running for president of. He is under no obligation to them. Only to our people
Posted by: Jason | July 2, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Consider Obama’s proposals:
• In effect, he would legislate a 60 percent tax bracket for upper-income Americans, killing all initiative and innovation. He’d raise the top bracket to 40 percent. He’d apply FICA taxes to all income, not just that under $100,000 as at present. So add 40 percent plus FICA’s 12.5 percent plus Medicare’s 2 percent plus state and local taxes averaging, after deduction, at 5-6 percent, and you have a 60 percent bracket.
• He would double the capital gains tax, saddling the 50 percent of Americans who own stock with dramatically higher taxes.
• He’d double the dividend tax, hitting elderly coupon-clippers now retired and depending on fixed incomes.
• He wants to cover 12 million illegal immigrants with federally subsidized health insurance, dramatically driving up costs and forcing federal rationing of healthcare. As in the U.K. and Canada, you will not be permitted certain medical procedures if the bureaucrats decide you are not worth it.
• He proposes requiring Homeland Security operatives to notify terror suspects that they are under investigation within seven days of starting the investigation
• He says that unless they can establish that there is “probable cause to believe that a certain individual is linked to a specific terrorist group,” Homeland Security cannot seize his documents and search his business. The current standard is only that the search be “relevant” to a terror investigation.
• In effect, he would legislate a 60 percent tax bracket for upper-income Americans, killing all initiative and innovation. He’d raise the top bracket to 40 percent. He’d apply FICA taxes to all income, not just that under $100,000 as at present. So add 40 percent plus FICA’s 12.5 percent plus Medicare’s 2 percent plus state and local taxes averaging, after deduction, at 5-6 percent, and you have a 60 percent bracket.
He does not oppose $5-per-gallon gasoline but only says that he wishes there had been a more “gradual adjustment” to the higher prices.
Obama can talk about the Rev. Wright and flag lapel pins and his wife’s love of America all day long. But what he resists is a specific discussion of his own plans for our country. That’s the discussion he fears and he avoids. And it’s the discussion John McCain must force upon him if he is to have any realistic chance of winning the election.
Posted by: Will | July 2, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
I’m a Former Moderate Democrate – Gone Independent. With All The Dishonesty The DNC has done in the Primary to select Obama, And Obama Changing his positions almost everyday about everything – it all tells me that Obama is not a steady, solid canidate. He has nothing in his political carreer to show he has experience or vision either. I know John McCain will Put America First. He can Lead on National Safety, that GW Bush messed up. He is more Like Bill Clinton on economics… which in the 90′s the economy was GREAT!
McCain has Qualities, of Leadership, Experience, Trustworthy, & Solid Decisions, Obama hasn’t proven any of these things. We should choose our President, expecting to know where he stands. And He Should be standing on solid rock, not on sinking sand. Vote McCain, He Has Princibles & He Has A Good Excellant Plan, Obama Can’t Make Up His Mind & That Is Dangerous too, because he just doesn’t have what it takes to make a solid decision.
Posted by: Voteing McCain | July 2, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Obama was a member of an openly racist church for twenty years,…..Obama has two books out full of racist sounding quotes. I guarantee you I never would have been part of a racist Church. If Obama did not think his church and Wright were racist, why did he find it necessary denouce Wright and quit Trinity Church? ( by the way I do not believe Obama when he says denounced Wright, I also do not believe for one moment that he did not know what Wright was all about)
Posted by: rogersm234 | July 2, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
jschmidt – That poll you’re referencing just highlights the fact that people don’t have all the facts. The only reason dems don’t want more federal land being made avaialable for drilling is because big oil already has land that they’re not using. Big Oil is greedy. They care more about profit than fixing what is a long-term problem for citizens of this planet. Oil is a non-renewable natural occurance. It is finite. It will run out. Democrats are the only people to seem to want to do anything about it. And as far as experience goes, it doesn’t equal smart and it doesn’t equal right for American. For all his “experience” McCain couldn’t be more wrong for America. Experience should tell him that American needs to go in a new direction, but he’s not interested.
Posted by: JimmyTmac | July 2, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
like this is news we wouldnt expect anything less from the republicans after all thats their thing thats how the campaign let me give you some examples
1- lies smears rumors spin facts
2- install fear fear us with terriost and silly security codes
Posted by: angie | July 2, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Obama thinks he’s above reproach with his flip-flopping:
Consider what’s happened since he clinched the Democratic nomination and Hillary “suspended” her campaign:
• Obama flip flopped on his pledge to spurn private contributions and finance his campaign publicly – as long as his opponent did likewise. McCain said he’s willing and Obama flipped and said he’s not.
• The Democratic candidate was caught flat footed by the sudden spike in oil prices and even defended their high level, lamenting only that we had not been given a period of time to make a “gradual adjustment” to the higher price.
• McCain urged off-shore drilling, which Americans support, according to Rasmussen’s polling, by 70-19, while Obama said no.
• Obama urged that we give foreign terror suspects constitutional rights, including habeas corpus, and even implied that if we caught bin Laden, that’s how he should be treated.
• The head of the commission Obama set up to vet Vice Presidential candidates, Jim Johnson, had to resign after he was found to have gotten millions in sweetheart loans from Countrywide, the mortgage giant that is at the heart of the subprime scandal.
Posted by: Will | July 2, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
McCain’s claim that tax cuts “increase revenues” and that increasing taxes has the “opposite effect” is contested by his own senior domestic policy adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin. As director of the Congressional Budget Office, Holtz-Eakin estimated in 2005 that a 10 percent individual income tax cut would result in a revenue loss of $1.24 trillion over 10 years.
Under the most optimistic assumptions, increased economic growth generated by the cut would offset this loss by $345 billion, resulting in a net revenue loss of nearly $900 billion. Holtz-Eakin said by e-mail that McCain believes that “cutting middle-class taxes will generate additional growth” but “has never supported the idea that tax cuts pay for themselves.” This, however, is precisely the impression created by McCain’s National Review interview.
Posted by: JimmyTmac | July 2, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
i wonder how much john mccain sold us out and how much cindy paid and how liberman created what happen in colombia so conveiant with john there please can anyone say phoney phoney it kills me what these repugs do to get elected!!!! just gotta laugh
Posted by: angie | July 2, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
JimmyTmac- I think you don’t have the facts. Since 2006,q4 world demand has outstripped supply by 1 million barrels per day. Big oil makes an average of 8.5% as an industry. They are not making outrageous profits as a percentage of sales. They sell a lot of oil at a high price and that results in record dollar profits. They could make more if they had more to sell. Even though drilling will not make an immediate affect on supply, their is psychological advantage to cool the markets. Windfall profits taxes will only decrease supply as it did in the 70s. Democrats are not interested in the costs to ordinary citizens. Obama and the Dems are going down the wrong path, but they would give GW a perceived victory on this.
Posted by: jschmidt | July 2, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
rogersm234 – So why do you get to call people racist if you insist no one else can?
Posted by: jock59801 | July 2, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
The Republicans won’t have to lie about Obama – the dirty tricks, the lies, the pandering to whichever group he’s speaking in front of on a certain day, the flip flops in a time span of days, they’re all on tape for all the world to see. It won’t be lies, it won’t be innuendo, it will be the truth, and in this case, may the truth set this nation free from the corrupt Chicago thug named Barack Obama.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | July 2, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
BREAKING NEWS PUMA DEMOCRATS LEARNED THROUGH CNN KNOWN TO BE AN ANTI OBAMA SMEAR CAMPAIGN FOR MCCAIN POSING AS HILLARY SUPPORTERS THEY ARE NO MORE DEMOCRAT THAN GEORGE W BUSH!! well pumas i hope mccain is paying you well enough to get a good education i hope!!!
Posted by: angie | July 2, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Obama and the Dems are going down the wrong path, but they would NEVER give GW a perceived victory on this.
Posted by: jschmidt | July 2, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Jock,
I answeeed this question at 11:29.
Posted by: rogersm234 | July 2, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Hillary Democrats and Republicans are on the same team now…we do not care if you call PUMA’s republicans.
Posted by: rogersm234 | July 2, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Obama’s ideology is saturated in the race issue:
Obama believes that he, himself will bring to fruition Martin Luther King’s dream of a post-racial America. To this end, Obama is not advancing himself as one who should be President because he’s the best man for the job, but as one who should become President because he, personally, by being some racial fulfillment incarnate, will save us from the last remaining “stains” that the Founders created.
Obama actually believes he is the savior of the race hatred vetted by the founding fathers. He feels his transcension across racial lines will unify, when its dividing. Obama actually believes that when he speaks, people will take it to heart without question. His arrogance and elitism is unlike any presidential candidate ever to grance the soil of America.
There are many following this “Pied Piper” who will only lead them to destruction and despair. I know Americans are hurting and are desparate for change, but don’t sell your souls to a deceiver.
Posted by: Will | July 2, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Obama voted against a ban on partial birth abortion – what more does anyone in the religious right need to know to vote against him? Actions speak louder than words, and Obama’s actions are not reflective of someone who will garner much support from the religious right, no matter how much he panders. He’s trying to pander to the gun folks as well, but the NRA already has his number and have come out strongly against him. The longer this election season goes on, the more people will finally see this guy for the fraud that he is. No courage of his convictions, heck, what convictions?
Posted by: Grammy Barb | July 2, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
Anyone seen the latest RCP National Average? Obama is up nationally by 5.4 points. He’s way ahead in PA, he’s ahead in MI and OH. Tied in VA. All I have to say is YES HE CAN.
Posted by: JimmyTmac | July 2, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
i will take obamas flipping over john mccains any day because i understand why he is flip flopping you see hes not in the primaries any more courting democrats hes in the general election courting everyone republicans independets which i happen to be independet every politican does this now on mcains flips he just down right doesnt have a clue he either forgets what he says or hes in denial about saying it if you pay attention more to obama and listen you will understand his need to do this remember we know mccain obama is new he is trying to introduce himself at the same reassure people who he is remember folks polititcs are polititcs and obama is pretty brilliant
Posted by: angie | July 2, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
rogersm234
That is not an answer. You have called Obama a racist many times. You enjoy even more calling all 8000 people in Trinity UCC racists. You don’t even know these people, yet you feel justified in slandering them, even as you criticize others for doing the same. Why?
Posted by: jock59801 | July 2, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Will – And McCain believes we’re better of than we were in 2000. And he, not surprisingly, admitted that he doesn’t know the first thing about the economy. You say Obama is racist? So let’s elect an old moron instead. Yeah that makes complete sense.
Posted by: JimmyTmac | July 2, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Grammy Barb
Well I certainly hope the religious right is not going to vote for Obama! Otherwise I might have to re-consider my own support.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 3, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
That is a solid anwer Jock, you are just double talking, if you really cared about racism you would not defend Wright or Trinity Church, if the shoe was on the other foot, and in my life I have had the opportunity to stand up against racism and I did. I do not repect people who see racism and choose to be blind.
Posted by: rogersm234 | July 3, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
The Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee promotes himself as the political Messiah, as one who will bring “hope” and “change” to Washington, D.C. and American politics.
His legion of adoring fans includes wealthy patrons of the entertainment and mass communications industry as well as billionaire stock manipulator George Soros whose group MoveOn.org has vowed to make the Democratic Party their own and to rule the United States.
This is not change Americans want.
Besides, Mr. Obama is not really offering change, he just offers more of the same politics of personal destruction that became an art form during the Clinton years. Indeed, Mr. Obama won the nomination by out-Clintoning Hillary Clinton.
Here are just some examples of Mr. Obama’s deceit.
Recently, Mr. Obama reversed an earlier pledge that he would accept public funding and instead announced he would rely totally on private donations – the first to do so. His rationale was “John McCain’s campaign and the Republican National Committee are fueled by contributions from Washington lobbyists and special interest PACs.”
The nonpartisan, nonprofit, Annenberg Political Fact Check – which is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania and which monitors “the factual accuracy of what is said by major U.S. political players” – said that Mr. Obama’s allegation about Mr. McCain is disingenuous. They wrote, “We find that to be a large exaggeration and a lame excuse. In fact, donations from PACs and lobbyists make up less than 1.7 percent of McCain’s total receipts, and they account for only about 1.1 percent of the RNC’s receipts.”
Posted by: Will | July 3, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
JimmyTmac – Well, to be fair, McCain didn’t really say that. And must we call everyone morons just because we disagree with them? If you mean “ignorant,” then say it. That’s not the same thing.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 3, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
angie: Sorry to disappoint you, Angie, but the PUMAs I know are either Democrats or recent ex-Democrats, or Independents. Are we working with the McCain campaign with our dollars and our support? You betcha! So you can accuse us of being Republicans if that makes you feel better about the groundswell support against Obama, but in truth we are Democrats and Indepandents working hard to help elect a Republican president so that we can bring about the return of decency and democracy to the “Democratic” party.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | July 3, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
rogersm234
I haven’t seen racism at Trinity, so I guess I’m off the hook. Do you even know what “racism” means?
Posted by: jock59801 | July 3, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Thanks jock, just trying to stick to the issues, however, like many Obama supporters, they will spin post and stories to Obama’s benefit.
Posted by: Will | July 3, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Got news for you Jock, a personal attack is a personal attack, and I had someone permanently removed for calling me ignorant.
Posted by: rogersm234 | July 3, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
I’m a PUMA -
Moderate
Democrate -GONE Independant! BECAUSE I Believe in voteing for the BEST Qalified Person for President. I Determine That By The Persons Record & Characther. DEAL WITH IT! & VOTE MCCAIN!
Posted by: Voteing McCain | July 3, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
hey ROGER 234what are you saying obama brought you hillary democrats and republicans together now wow thats change last i checked republicans couldnt stomache bill and hill and hill despises repugs as bill does too well good for obama proven he can bring change and bring people together thanks puma now we see obama can really bring change!!!
Posted by: angie | July 3, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
The jobs report is coming out tomorrow. I wonder how many thousands were lost this time around? I’m guessing we can expect a bump in the polls for Obama.
Posted by: JimmyTmac | July 3, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
Jock….Why did Obama denouce Wright?
Posted by: rogersm234 | July 3, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Is there anything fair about criticizing Obama. His supporters always scream foul even when there is legitimate critism to be cast. He is a phony baloney. And, if he had any guts, he’d recognize drilling is necessary to alleviate the middle class suffering. Since he’s flipping and flopping all over the place with no rhyme or reason, this is where he needs to flip and flop and fast.
Posted by: bluebird | July 3, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
rogersm234
“Ignorant” doesn’t have to be a personal attack, but I’m sure it could be used that way. I am completely ignorant on the subject of electronics, but I don’t consider that a personal attack on myself. If McCain actually had said that he “didn’t know the forst thing about the economy,” I suggested that “ignorant” would be stronglly preferred to “moron” for describing that situation.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 3, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
GRANNY BARB
that has got to be one of the funniest thing ive heard how old are you are you even old enough to vote after 7 years of the worst republican president and repug adm you want to put another repub to bring democracy to the demo party wow granny i really enjoy your comedy tonight!!!
Posted by: angie | July 3, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Double talk Jock….it’s not working
Posted by: rogersm234 | July 3, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
I just want to talk numbers folks.
McCain voted with President Bush 95% of the time in 2007.
President Bush is viewed unfavorably by 70% of the American public.
I don’t even know what we’re arguing about here.
Posted by: JimmyTmac | July 3, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
News flash: McCain is not Bush. Never even liked him. The claim isn’t working cuz everyone knows McCain! Best choice for this election!
Posted by: bluebird | July 3, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
rogersm234 – When Rev. Wright runs for president you have my permission not to vote for him.
Posted by: JimmyTmac | July 3, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
rogersm234 -
Obama denounced Wright partly in the vain attempt to get the right-wing noise machine to move on to something else, and partly because Wright was continuing to grandstand and offend for attention.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 3, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Long gone is Obama’s admirable rhetoric about how he could “no more disown” his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and implicitly his now-former church, than he could disown his own grandmother. Now, Wright has been disowned. The church has been disowned. And Grandma should watch her back.
Barack Obama continues his wild ride through the world of American politics. And his supporters are right to worry about the price of the ticket.
Posted by: Will | July 3, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
bluebird – I beg to differ. I think the claim is working. The shoe undeniably fits. Why on earth else would Obama have higher favorability ratings than McCain?
Posted by: JimmyTmac | July 3, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
To NoBama08:
Did you hear the latest? Obama claims to have supported a welfare reform bill put out by the Clinton admin. and it turns out he was completely against it! I think the media has tapes of Obama speaking out against it. It should hit the media tomorrow morning if not already.
Posted by: bluebird | July 3, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
To NoBama08: Also, even though I think Drilling is what the American people want, I’d much rather have the new Honda hydrogen fuel cell car.
Posted by: bluebird | July 3, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
McCain has many difference from Bush, and couldn’t help but be a better president. But if he is President then the movement conservatives will still be in control, and that is unacceptable.
Posted by: jock59801 | July 3, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
bluebird i didn’t say what you said was true or that Obama did not support Welfare reform. i just pointed out that “working class” people who are losing their jobs and may need welfare may be happy to hear that Obama was for it being available for them in their time of need. Sorry the sarcasm and irony might take a bit of thinking…
Posted by: Jason | July 3, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
To JimmyTmac: But, you have to agree that on issue number one to most Americans, which is the economy, McCain and Bush are twins.
That’s because he’s a republican. Democrates are middle/lower class. Of course, the democrates perfer tax cuts on that will benefit them. The problem is I don’t think the fed gov can afford to cut even the middle class tax. Plus, Obama’s plan puts only allows $1 million to go tax free for estate taxes. That’s not enough for those who have managed to accumulate a million or more in assets. McCain is offering 5 million go free for estate taxes. Today, middle class families have accumulated $1 million or more. That’s small compared to the wealthy. I hope this makes sense.
Posted by: bluebird | July 3, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
I guess I just want to go back to the Clinton years when we had a budget surpluss, people had jobs, the dollar had value and gas was cheap. Not to mention we weren’t at war. What a difference 8 years makes. I guess I’m hoping Obama is more Clinton than Carter. And more Roosevelt than Kennedy.
Posted by: JimmyTmac | July 3, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Actually today he was doing his best Kennedy rendition with his call to public service. That’s a good chord to strike. It resonates well especially because I think this younger generation has lost the meaning of public service.
Posted by: JimmyTmac | July 3, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
jock how do do that with a marxist?
Posted by: don tufts | July 3, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
bluebird and one more thing, limiting people to 36 months of social services does not work. it increases crime because when that person 36 months are up they dont say oh i will go get a job now they say I still have to eat and I need to do what ever I can to eat rob, murder, whatever. Its better to spend the money and ensure these people are educated and have jobs available to them rather than going to Columbia to talk up more free trade agreements like NAFTA to send our low skill jobs over seas before ensure the workforce is prepared for the transition to more complex industries.
Posted by: Jason | July 3, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
I don’t think Americans want another FDR, even if we are in a recession. I don’t think they want another Reagan either. Obama needs to find a balance.
Posted by: JimmyTmac | July 3, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Jason,
Your point is well taken. But I can’t support EVERYONE who might to decide to take on a life of crime if my tax dollar doesn’t help them out. I end up paying for the prison term anyway! So I guess, it kind of evens itself out in the long run. Good debate with you though.
Posted by: bluebird | July 3, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
That’s actually what Bill Clinton wanted to do. Cut welfare and get tough on crime.
Posted by: JimmyTmac | July 3, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Actually many people would do well to research history and learn how gullible the German people were to fall for Hitler…Obama’s rise seems to have alot of Hitler’s vague promises of greatness and hidden sometimes glimpse hatred of other people. Like Hitler, Obama has surrounded himself with some very unsavory hateful racist people such as the terrorists Ayers, his wife Michele, and his evil Reverend. Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Posted by: chattyway | July 3, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
Voteing McCain – You say McCain is not Bush but you sure can’t do a good job of proving it. You say Obama in no Clinton but I can make a very compeling case to prove that he’s exactly like Clinton. You couldn’t name one single signicant policy disagreement between Bush and McCain. And even if you could name one, I could name twice as many agreements on policy between Clinton and Obama.
Posted by: JimmyTmac | July 3, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
How many Senate votes will John McCain conveniently skip
Posted by: musicisourhigh | July 3, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
The RNC plans attack ads… and exactly why is this news?
Posted by: Paul | July 3, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
The RNC simply has ZERO credibility after all that has happened the last eight years right before eyes. They have absolutely no right to be critical of Obama or anyone else. They are as big of a joke as McCain himself. Anyone who will take anything they say as the truth should just go ahead and move to Zimbabwe where they would be in good company while the rest of us here goes on with the task of finally rebuilding this country
Posted by: jimi | July 3, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
So either ABC News has seen these ads already, or ads highlighting the difference between candidates are attack ads now? I’m not saying they won’t be attack ads, but honostly, none of us know yet.
Sure, Obama said that it’s going to happen. But the last time we blindly followed a politician we wound up in Iraq. Yes, Obama says he’s differant from the other politicians, but that’s the politicians’ motto. “I’m not like them.” What has Obama done to deserve such blind trust?
No, I think I’ll wait and decide on what the candidates do and don’t do. Not based on the reputation of the party they belong to.
Posted by: Kevin | July 3, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
I am more concerned about the bigger picture: the true moral character of Obama. I totally distrust his “preacher like” politics and will always question his affiliation with Wright. Turning Wrights hateful remarks into racial issues only skirts the real issue. I want a real patriot to look up to to be my president. I believe he is the epitome of a very glib “politician”.
Posted by: Tina | July 4, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am
As expected, the RNC will demolish Obama by simple comparisons between the most liberal, left-wing Democrat to a moderate Republican.
The whining from Pelosi, Dean, Reid, Kennedy, Kerry, and the rest of the ultra-liberal crowd should follow shortly.
Then, they will all face the east and bow to Mecca for their evening prayers…
Posted by: Jayhawk | July 4, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
You racist people please stop venting your racist feelings under the guise of political opposition. In other words I know you wear your bed linen after you get up and about. Nothing but the worst america has to offer. I oughta know I was once a part of your crowd. I never could figure out why I hated blacks so much. I never lived near them or anything I just hated them for no reason. I guess I was just plain stupid like the rest of the fools against Obama because he’s black. Wise up before you find yourself in hell like me.
Posted by: Jesse Helms | July 5, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am