We’re here at Saddleback Church, the main sanctuary where 2,200 are watching Pastor Rick Warren’s "Civil Forum." More than 4,200 others are watching from satellite locations elsewhere on the Saddleback campus, not to mention those checking it out on basic cable.
Warren’s first question related to Proverbs 12:15 http://bible.cc/proverbs/12-15.htm — "The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that listens to counsel is wise."
"Who are the three wisest people you know in your life and who are you going to rely on heavily in your administration?" Warren asked.
Obama joked that obviously the question would have to exempt Warren himself, then mentioned his wife Michelle, "who is not only wise but she’s honest. And one of the things you need — I think any leader needs is somebody who can get up in your face and say, boy, you really screwed that one up. You really blew that."
"Your wife’s like that, too?" Warren joked.
Obama also mentioned his grandmother, then politically he mentioned former Sen. Sam Nunn, D-Ga., Sen. Dick Lugar, R-Ind., with whom he’s worked on nuclear proliferation issues, and ultra-liberal Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., as well as uber-conservative Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.
"What I’ve found is very helpful to me is to have a table where a lot of different points of view are represented and where I can sit and poke and prod and ask them questions…so that any blind spots I have or predispositions that I have that my assumptions are challenged."