Biden’s Stock Rises in Obama Vice Presidential Speculation
ABC News’ Ed O’Keefe reports: Sen. Barack Obama still isn’t saying who he’s picked as his vice presidential running mate, but speculation surrounding Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., has increased as the Democratic ticket’s unveiling in Springfield on Saturday nears.
On his blog, Marc Ambinder first reported on an in-bounded private charter from Chicago Midway (KMDW) to New Castle, Del. (KILG). The flight — EJA863 — took off at 6:05 p.m. ET and arrived one hour and 28 minutes later at 7:36 p.m.
Just as the Raytheon Hawker 800 took to the sky, ABC News has confirmed that Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and Gov. Tim Kaine, D-Va., had both been told by Obama that they were not going to join the Democratic ticket.
Reached by phone by ABC News’ Teddy Davis just after 8 p.m. ET, former Sen. Birch Bayh, D-Ind., father of Evan Bayh, was not in a position to either confirm or deny the report that his son had been scratched off Obama’s short list.
"Tim and Evan aren’t in the mix? I don’t know anything about that," the elder Bayh said.
Activity outside Biden’s home in Delaware has increased this evening.
Biden’s son Joseph R. "Beau" Biden, Delaware’s attorney general who served in Iraq in the Army National Guard, arrived at the residence as had, for a short while, both his state director and driver.
Biden, 65, first won his job in the Senate over 35 years ago and has been re-elected five times. The Delaware Democrat has chaired both the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and Judiciary Committee, and has cast more than 12,500 votes during his political career.
A Biden pick, so goes conventional political wisdom, would bring gravitas as a running mate to the 47-year-old presumptive Democratic nominee.
Earlier this week, Biden told reporters outside his home, "I’m not the guy."
The long-awaited text message from the Obama campaign confirming or disproving that statement has yet to arrive.
ABC News’ Justin Anderson, Lisa Chinn, Matt Jaffe, Jay Shaylor, and Jake Tapper contributed to this report.
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Gravitas? heh. I can think of many words to describe Joe Biden. Gravitas would not be one of them.
Posted by: slick | August 22, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
no hillary no go,he doesnt choose her his arrogance will cost him the election
Posted by: Michael | August 22, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Please dont be the other Edwards. Now is not the time for a get to know you tea. We need experience, drive, guts and tennacity. We need Hillary on the ticket. Obama/Hillary 08
Posted by: roberincharlotte | August 22, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Biden would be 74 when Obama’s 2 term ends. That is to old to carry on what is supposed to be a presidency that could change America. There is no legacy to carry on in this guy !
If Obama goes Biden, he’s lost my vote.
Posted by: Scott NH | August 22, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
oh you sore loser hillary supporters.. she is backing obama and so should you other wise we will have more evil bushies like mccain .
Posted by: tom | August 22, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
It’s Biden, because it’s the one guy I like and I’m voting McCain. I love Hillary but knew he was never even considering her.
It’s just going to look wierd with #2 so much stronger and experienced and puppet head gets the crown.
SORRY, THIS HILLARY SUPPORTER WILL STILL VOTE McCAIN.
D-IC-K MORRIS SAID McCAIN SHOULD GET A STRONG WOMAN ON HIS TICKET AND I AGREE, (OR ROMNEY WHO STILL HAS FISCAL CRED)
Posted by: Debra | August 22, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
When the Dems got together early on and had all of them debate together, I remember one of the last things the moderator asked was for each one to look at the candidate next to him/her and say what they liked about him/her. Biden turned to the person on his left and said he liked the guy’s wife. Hilarious.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson | August 22, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Slick, than obviously you do not follow politics or read the congressional record. Or maybe you are just another right-wing partisan lemming who ignores facts and choses instead to distort facts and use fear-mongering.
Biden would be a great choice for VP.
Posted by: miles1967 | August 22, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
They are playing tape on H & C of Biden saying he would not accept a VP offer, some months back. Wish he would stay true to his word.
Posted by: Debra | August 22, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
we dems always find a way to lose. biden has a big mouth and is out there. hillary could unite the party but obama is too proud to select a strong woman. obama has made his decision; so have i; this dem is voting mccain.
Posted by: ron | August 22, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
we dems always find a way to lose. biden has a big mouth and is out there. hillary could unite the party but obama is too proud to select a strong woman. obama has made his decision; so have i; this dem is voting mccain.
Posted by: ron | August 22, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Joe Biden supported Obama when Bush slammed him in his speech before the Kenesset, in Isreal. This was months ago, before he won the nomination. I respect Joe Bided because he will stand his ground – when others are just looking at polls. The VP must always be a STRONG candidate – working with the president and strong enough in his own right to assume the presidency should he be called upon to do so.
For that reason I am aginst HRC as VP- she spent billions trying to convince us that Obama would NOT make a good president – I would question her loyalty. Yes, she has party loyalty and I respect her – her best position to serve our country at this time
would be Secretary of State.
Posted by: White Mountain | August 22, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Biden has no economic experience.
Obama and Biden have never been governor, never run a business, never been on economic committees.
Obama should have picked someone with business and economic experience because Obama has no economic education.
Posted by: James | August 22, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Obama should have picked governor kaine or convinced governor warner of virginia.
Kaine has economic experience.
Biden and Obama both have no economic experience.
Posted by: James | August 22, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
No matter who Obama picks please understand that it will be Obama who people do not vote for and Biden will be a temporary bounce next week. Biden will be a riot in any VP debate tying to limit his answers to the actual questions asked (Joe has a big problem with diarrhea of the mouth).
Hillary supporters are ready to cause problems next week, should be fun.
Posted by: Matt, Delaware | August 22, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Years ago, Biden was running for the nomination when a reporter questioned his qualification/credentials. Biden angrily responded that he won moot court, but he had to eat his words later on when the truth came out that he didn’t win. I’ll never forget that moment when this guy was so arrogant. It would be fitting for him to be BHO’s VP because their combined arrogance would cause the room to burst.
Posted by: Frustrated Voter | August 22, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Biden had the lousy idea of splitting Iraq into three parts for the sunnis, shiites, and kurds which would have been a disaster.
Kirkuk would have had an all out civil war under Biden’s plan to split up the region from the kurds, shiites and sunnis.
Posted by: James | August 22, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Same old politics – two males to run for President and Vice President.
Posted by: lordy lordy | August 22, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Debra
Like I said last night debra, who cares? Like Hillary, you’re a loser! You can vote for anyone you like but Obama is going to win! Your posts are so boring! I’m voting McCain….I’m voting McCain! It doesnt’ matter! Like Hillary and McCain, you’re a loser!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
slick -
I’d take Biden’s gravitas over Cheney’s gravitas any day. Come to think about it, I’d take his gravitas over McCain’s.
Posted by: 63tango | August 22, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Debra – he said – “he was not seeking the VP” but that he would serve if his county if called upon him! Big Difference!
The HRC supporters need to think about the “Clinton Baggage” who wnats to go through this “crap” for the next four years! It’s always something with them -they are either being sued or investigated!! We cannot get bogged down in that garbage – we have to move forward as a nation – Use HRC’s strenghts – that would be Secretary of State – anything else is going to demean and incompasitate her and her ability to effectively serve our nation.
Posted by: White Mountain | August 22, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Someone owes me ten bucks, O’Keefe.
Posted by: isaac | August 22, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
ron
How could she unite us? With Bosnia stories? She is a shrew to the Obama supporters. As a woman she has no credibility with me. Staying with that perv Bill afeter years of humiliation in the hope that she could someday run for president? Dream on!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Um, James, if you actually take the time to research it, Sen. Joe Biden’s idea is the only intelligent, rational, and more important, practical one. It worked just find in Bosnia et al. McCain 2008/Hillary 2012!!!
Posted by: PhillyPaul | August 22, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Scott NH;How old is McClain? he’s running for president, one foot in the grave.
Posted by: gman | August 22, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Does anyboby think maybe hillary don’t want vice president,and maybe she already know that he wouldn’t pick her, they might have talk about it.
Posted by: gman | August 22, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
roxanne, I have been reading these posts and the disrespect that Obama supporters show for Hillary confirms to me that Obama supporters do not want Hillary voters support. So be it, I’m voting for McCain.
Posted by: jerry | August 22, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
gmam, Obama has one foot in his mouth and the other up his A###
Posted by: Hillary supporter | August 22, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
James
He’s doing a pretty good job of running his campagin which is more than you could say for Clinton who is 23 million dollars in debt!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
I remember when Biden was asked the question “will he takes the VP job if ask.” Biden said, ‘No and he will turn-down any offer for VP.” Another lying on the ticket.
Posted by: willie | August 22, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
ROBERT
Fortunately there are not enough of those idiost to make a difference!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
I toast OBAMA & BIDEN – THE WINNING TICKET – BY A LANDSLIDE!!! Unless Bush starts a nuclear war with Russia or Iran – then were all toast! Would somebody please help GWB – sit on him if you have to! There aren’t enough drugs or alternate realities to convince any “normal” person that we coould win a nuclear conflict. How GWB he be THAT STUPID?
Posted by: White Mountain | August 22, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
All you Hilliary lovers will be going crazy that he didn’t pick her. I hope Obama will be saft with Hilliay nutting ones.
Posted by: gl | August 22, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
“IF” it is Biden, he was saying it ISN’T me on TV yesterday. Just what we need another LIAR!
Posted by: BIDEN is a Weakling | August 22, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
If Hillary is not on this ticket, I will be voting for McCain period! The only reason that Hillary should not be on this ticket is if she was offered it and did not accept it. I hope Obama makes the right decision or he will not be the next President of the United States!
Posted by: Joe | August 22, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
This is just toooooo good to be true!
If it is Biden…Obama is toast!
What America needs is leaders that bring the parties together to finally get things done (unlike the Pelosi/Reid do-nothing’s)…and folks..Biden ain’t no uniter! He’s as partisan as they get!
Let’s see…dem ticket equals the most liberal and the most arrogant partisan candidates ever. McCain just needs to pick a moderate like Romney that can manage the money and the game is over in August!
Posted by: clarkOHrepub | August 22, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
James;if he had choosen someone stronger on ecomony I am sure you would say than he needed someone one with more foreign policy skills—-you people!
Posted by: gman | August 22, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
I’m an Iowan. During the caucuses, Biden was my top choice (followed by Dodd). I wish the ticket was Biden/Obama – I’m not one of the Obama cheerleaders, but a Biden VP makes me much more comfortable. You know Biden is the only one of the candidates who isn’t a millionaire?
Posted by: Mike | August 22, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
hillay is a disgrace and too arrogant like her followers..BIDEN is the man..
Posted by: oladele | August 22, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
All of you HIllary fans were going to vote for McCain anyway! Funny how “operation chaos” backfired – McCain had the nomination in Feb. and all the Republicans kept voting for Clinton because they knew they COULD beat her! GET HONEST – you were never going to vote democratic to begin with – YOU JUST WANTED TO SCREW UP THE PRIMARY AND LET MCCAIN “RUN” FOR AN EXTRA 4 MONTHS!
Posted by: White Mountain | August 22, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Ahhh…White Mountain! Hate to break it to yeah, but GW ain’t in this race fella! And don’t even get me started on the hacks that like to suggest John is McSame!
Posted by: clarkOHrepub | August 22, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Hilliay is not the only one that can help Obama win so all you Hilliary angry supporters move on all ready! After tonight, it is over for Hilliary. They all ready have jail gates up at the Convention to put you nutting Hilliary supporters in them. The are not going to let Hilliary angry miserable supporters mess up the event.
Posted by: gl | August 22, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
You crazy Hillary nutters, STFU. Biden is a much better choice than Hillary. Besides Bill did not want to hand over his shady financial records and do we really want one of Bill’s girlfriends as an October surprise??
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: Melinda | August 22, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Obama will have a excellent Cabinet full of qualify people, the full spectrums, that may include senator clinton and bill.
Posted by: gman | August 22, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
jerry
Well at least you’ve finally got it! As I said, fortunately there are not enough of you to make a difference! If there were more of you, she would have won!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
The one experienc Hilliay have is her Husband being the President and that that! Obama young and Joe Biden is the right age to make this ticket a winning ticket.
Posted by: gl | August 22, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Hussein picked himself!
Go McCain!
Hillary 2012!
Posted by: Rob | August 22, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Hillary supporter
He beat her considerale ass!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
All of these Hillary suppporters can you please tell me why you all have not retired her debt??? Some of you diehard bitter enders seem to not put your money where your mouth is.
Hypocrites.
Posted by: David | August 22, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Rob
Yes, go Mccain! Back to one of your houses because the Whitehouse won’t be one of them! Looking forward to seeing all of you back in in November when Obama wins!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
During one of Biden’s caucus stops in Iowa, he brought up that he had given a speech on Sept 10, 2001 about military spending in which he said our biggest threat wasn’t an inter-continential missle but a terrorist attach such as in backpack or belly of a plane. I found the speech text and he really did say it. Biden has a level of understanding of the international issues and threats that we haven’t had in the WH for some time.
Posted by: Mike A. In Iowa | August 22, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Ouch! Senator Biden is an admitted plagiarist – a fine example of moral character. Just what this country needs
Posted by: Long memory | August 22, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
If Obama picks Biden, the age argument is out the window.
Biden is of the McCain generation, and he is much more cynical and vindictive.
But, why not pick Biden?
Biden has lost in every one of his own runs for President.
Why not lose as a candidate for Vice President for the empty suit?
Jesse Jackson had the best plan for Obama’s future.
Obama/Jackson ’08
Posted by: Jayhawk | August 22, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
We’re going to elect a president. This isn’t a beauty contest. Its not to pick the one you’d like to have a beer or coffee with.
I’ve supported and worked for many candidates who did not get nominated. John Kerry was definitely not my first choice.
However, John Kerry was running against George W. Bush, so there was absolutely no hesitation in choosing to vote for Kerry.
This time, a senator who voted with Hillary something like 97% of the time is running against another senator who has supported GWB something like 97% of the time. Shouldn’t that be what determines who you vote for?
John McCain has nothing in common with Hillary Clinton. If you were energized about Hillary becoming President, you should be very energized about stopping McCain from becoming President.
Posted by: bco | August 22, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Hillary supporter; some of these messages or not from Obama supporter the repubs will do anything to keep the flames high!
Posted by: gman | August 22, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
BIDEN is a Weakling
Did you consider the possibility that he hadn’t been notifed yet? Of course you didn’t. That would require rational thinking!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
I love Joe Biden, but agree with Michael: “no Hillary, no go. Obama’s arrogance will do him in.” Even for Biden, I wouldn’t vote Democratic for the first time in my life. I can’t vote for McCain but I can certainly write Hillary in.
The Democratic party had the election wrapped up and, in typical fashion, will manage to screw this up by going for sparkle over experience. Their lack of loyalty to Hillary, who earned it, will do them in. Five years from now, people will be saying, “whatever happened to that Obama guy after he lost the election?”
Posted by: Claudia | August 22, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
well Obama and Biden sure have something in common, the booth know how to plagiarize big speeches! LOL
Biden= Change We Can Believe In?? 36 years in Washington? partisan politics?
Obama inexperience is doing with Biden exactly what Bush did, Bush got Chenney the “loyal old man” to fill his inexperience gaps!
Posted by: Tom_DC | August 22, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Hillary sucks or maybe she doesn’t and that’s why Bill did what he did. Anyway, please Obama anyone but the crazy lady!
Posted by: Obamaramanator | August 22, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Biden would be a great addition…Chet Edwards is not to well known..hate to say it but a Obama/Clinton ticket equals SURE FIRE VICTORY!
Posted by: Mike | August 22, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Did they s on their people today or what? Can’t you give a brother a break and let it go a day before you give the big speech. I am not happy. Hillary should be the pick. I love Joe Biden but come on people! He has a very big chance of losing!
Posted by: j | August 22, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Long memory
You mean as opposed to cheating on your disfigured wife? Or playing the POW card eve time you’re stumped? Or plagiarizing the cross story? Now there’s a real paragon of virtue
Ha Ha Ha Ha
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Question, why has Obama waited until saturday Morning to announce his VP? Is it because of pressure from Hillary?
It seems this has gone on too long.
If its Biden, why the suspense? and if it is Biden, who is Mr. washington, can Obama really claim to be the candidate of Change? Actually, I’m rooting for Chet “the Jet” Edwards, the dark horse, who is , in reality, John Edwards secret half brother and the real father of Reil Hunters baby!
Posted by: deepthought37 | August 22, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Biden said Obama was a “clean and articulate” black candidate sounds a little racist to me.
Posted by: tim | August 22, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
if you vote mcshame that mean this counrty will go further recession and the rich will get richer and the poor get poorer. mccain left his first wife just to marry his new wife why you don’t not all the republican are not supporting him. to all the little children that supported hillary your need to suckit up , get over it, grow up and do the right this for your children, the next generation and this country. mccain is a airhead republican just like bush.
Posted by: michelle | August 22, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Another broken promise.
Obama said his supporters would know first. He said he would text message them before anyone else know. He said he would do it Friday. Now he says he will do it Saturday.
And his supporters will be among the last to know. The word is already out and spreading like fire.
Oh well, he promised Hillary he would help retire her campaign debt as well. What’s another promise to a professional politician?
Posted by: ragnar30066 | August 22, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Obama: “I want a V.P. who will challenge my thinking”.
Dear Voters,
We sent out letters to the “National Undergraduate Teachers Society for Kids in Kindergarten” (N.U.T.S.K.I.K.) for short. All of the teachers said they were not interested.
In fact, when word got out that kindergarten teachers were being solicited for the V.P. slot, kindergartner’s across the country planned mass protest. Their spokes-child, Career kindergartner Nancy Pelousey replied “We object to us being compared to someone like Obama, his qualifications make him an irrelevant candidate for class president, let alone President of the United States”.
Sincerely,
N.U.T.S.K.I.K.
P.S. We chose Nancy Pelousey, career kindergartner to represent us because, she was the only cry baby who could best represent the intellectual diversity of our six year old constituency.
Posted by: dave rappoport | August 22, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Roxanne,
I get your point…but I do think we could, and should, do better. This is not a race to the bottom
Posted by: Long memory | August 22, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Hillary underestimated Obama and look where she is now. An also ran! I just love all the angst from you Hillary and McCain supporters! The geezer is toast!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
What a great site! Not only Women, but every McCain supporter needs to take a look…
http://www.womenforjohnmccain.com/
It is about time the conservative women in this country stood up and backed our candidate!
Even Obama supporters should take a look at what a great man John McCain is! He will beat Obama like a rug with women like this standing behind his historic candidacy!
PUMA Gals voting for McCain, please come join us as well – together we can win!
McCain ’08!!
Posted by: Daisy | August 22, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
No Hillary on the ticket and McCain gets my vote. Who would be so stupid enough not to vet the person who got 18 million votes and is so arrogant he thinks he can win without her. I’ve had it with the Dem Elite.
Posted by: Carol 17 | August 22, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
No “Dem” would ever vote McCain
Posted by: lookitsjeska | August 22, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
ragnar30066 |
Blah Blah Blah! He’s done what he could. The fact is that his supporters don’t give a dam about the debt of someone who’s tax returns showed that she and Bill have over 109 million dollars. Why haven’t the 18 million voters she claims to have had donate just $1 dollar? Or was that more BS? Clearly it was! Obama is going to win so all of you haters can suck it! Suck it hard!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
who would vote for someone that doesn’t even know how many homes they have? certainly doesn’t sound like anyone i can, or would want, to relate to
Posted by: lookitsjeska | August 22, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
No Hillary on the ticket and McCain gets my vote. Who would be so stupid enough not to vet the person who got 18 million votes and is so arrogant he thinks he can win without her. I’ve had it with the Dem Elite.
Posted by: Carol 17
Um, the same people who voted for him and knocked her fat ass out of the primaries! Does that ansewer your question?
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
If Obama has trouble making a decision about who his running mate is how can we expect him to make any hard decisions if he becomes President. Like Hillary said in her anti-Obama 3 a.m. ad showing a telephone call to the White House and warning, “Something’s happening in the world. Your vote will decide who answers that call.” Obama is too green and indecisive to be President that is more clear than ever.
Posted by: jim | August 22, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
John and Cindy- the Family Values team-
except that John left his first wife after she had the bad taste to be in an accident, so he could marry a multi-millionaire trophy wife 20 years his younger.
And except that Cindy’s dad left his first wife in a similar fashion, and then stiffed his daughter by that marriage, leaving all of the cash to- Cindy. Did Cindy right this wrong by sharing some of the hundred or so million she inherited from their dad with her half-sister? No, in fact publicly she pretends that her half-sister does not exist.
So there you have it- fidelity, fairness, generosity, honesty- pretty much all of the Christian values in this one lovely if age-mismatched couple.
Posted by: andy | August 22, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
What a pick? Goodluck. This independent will not be fooled by the party unity at the Democratic Convention. I will definitely vote for McCain in November. And by the way Middle Class people wake up. Actions speak louder than pretty words. He needed Hillary and snubbed her no matter what they say. Hillary can give a good speech adn try to unite the party but I know this is the lowest blow of the Democratic Party yet.
Posted by: Steve | August 22, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
iam sorry but Obama is going to pick Hillary. Hillary has Obama by the balls. The numbers show that Obama can not win unless he gets all 18m Hillary’s supporters not half of them. Sorry but it will be Hillary/Obama ticket.
Posted by: willie | August 22, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
lookitsjeska, who would vote for anyone who does not know how many States there are? 57 according to Obama. Beyond stupid.
Posted by: gary | August 22, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Daisy
Dream on HAGGS!
Housewives Against Good Government!
Ha Ha Ha Ha!
Go take your estrogen! Your faces look bloated!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
FOR THE GOOD OF THIS NATION CAN WE PLEASE ELECTION A PERSON WHO CAN PASS A BASIC I.Q. TEST. GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Joe | August 22, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Yipeee! Pick Biden! He’s so “clean and articulate” (except for that plagerism thingie).. He also is a bigot, one time saying you couldn’t go into a 7-eleven without seeing an Indian guy (or something like that)…
McCain in a landslide!
Posted by: Jo | August 22, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Vote against Obama is a vote against the DNC party. NObama and no more DNC
Posted by: Quincy | August 22, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
According to Obama’s words several months ago, he wants and needs to unite the party behind him so that his base can be strong enough and he can focus more on reaching out to undecideds and independents. The only way to unite 36 million primary voters is to pick the candidate who got 18 million of those votes as his vice presidential nominee….Hillary Clinton. As always, STOP JUDGING HILLARY BASED ON BILL. If anything, Bill did good for this country (budget surplus, low unemployment rate, peaceful times, no nonsense wars)….In any case, Hillary has her own credentials, experience, and history. SHE IS QUALIFIED FOR PRESIDENT AND OVERQUALIFIED FOR VP!
OBAMA/CLINTON 2008
^
otherwise….we will suffer through four more years of iron-fist ruling by Satan’s party.
Posted by: Alan | August 22, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
lookitsjeska, who would vote for anyone who does not know how many States there are? 57 according to Obama. Beyond stupid.
Posted by: gary
I think your lover would disagree!
Posted by: kim | August 22, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
A Vote For McCain in 2008 is a Vote for Hillary in 2012
DEMOCRATS FOR MCCAIN 2008
HILLARY 2012.
oh by the way has anyone noticed that this election is getting boring?
Posted by: al | August 22, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Well a private jet has landed from Chicago in Delaware for Joe Biden. The “Politics of change”, “the candidate of change” yea right. Will someone go tell Sphincter boy
his 15 minutes are up!
I’d vote for a Mugabe/Putin ticket over these two self-serving miscreants.
Democrat for McCain!
Posted by: dave rappoport | August 22, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
I just don’t get it-
WHAT DOES LIKING HILLARY CLINTON HAVE TO DO WITH VOTING FOR McCAIN ?????
THEY HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON.
McCain opposes the policies that Hillary ran on. Obama’s policies are almost identical to Hillary’s.
Please, sit down, take a deep breath, and try to remember who Hillary Clinton is, what she meant to you, and why you supported her. Then look at Obama and McCain and make an intelligent choice.
Posted by: Its a Presidential Election | August 22, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Does anybody know if Biden has a wife, and could she ever get along with angry country hating Michelle….I couldn’t.
HILL SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | August 22, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Why would any women vote for McCain when he has one of the worst records of voting women’s rights. You have me shaking my head here.
Posted by: annie | August 22, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Hillary supporters – why would Hillary want to take the job? Look, after Biden and Dodd were out of the caucus, I went to support Hillary through the precint and district caucuses.
I don’t think Obama/Clinton is a ticket that we can believe will work. Obama/Biden is a much better ticket. If McCain wins, Clinton will run again in 2012. She’ll be able to do much more as a Senatrix for the next 4 years than a VP.
Posted by: Mike A. In Iowa | August 22, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
MCcain=Bush,How smart can a person be that doesn’t even know what kind of car they drive ?
Posted by: P.A.M.S | August 22, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
THIS TEXT MESSAGE GIMMICK IS A FAILED ATTEMPT TO BRING SOME EXITEMENT BACK INTO A CAMPAIGN THAT HAS GONE FLAT, EXCEPT THE EXCITEMENT LEVEL DROPPED WHEN HILLARY LEFT AND WON’T COME BACK TILL 2012
HILLARY 2012.
Posted by: al | August 22, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Alan
I don’t think so! She is the Senator from New York. A carpetbagger at best. Why didn’t she run as the Senator from Arkansas. She basically ran because her husband was a former president. As for her experience…it’s limited to her failure to get her healthcare bill passed and that Bosnia story was the final nail in her coffin. A gaffe is one thing… Obama’s 57 state gaffe but she repeated that bullshit Bosnia story several times before the press finally pulled the footage and called her out on it. Fact it, she mismanaged her campagin and couldn’t make the tough decisions when it counted. As for PUMA, as I’ve stated on this post many times without one of you disputing it, they have raised just $50,000 dollars! Obama rasied 7.8 million dollars on Tuesday in San Franciso on Tuesday. Now that’s what I’d call enthusiasim. If Hillary is so great, why hasn’t she been able to retire her debt! You’re all delusional!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
THIS ELECTION IS GETTING SO BORING WILL SOME INTERN GIVE MCCAIN OR OBAMA A BLOW JOB
Posted by: al | August 22, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
D-ic-k Morris said tonight on FOX Hillary supporters are going to be a big problem for Obama and McCain should pick (a woman who’s name I can’t recall). It IS a great idea…I wish there was a credible Rep woman out there that Reps could embrace….I wish Hill could be McCain’s choice…he is so bipartisan and everyone knows his record for working across the isle .
HILL SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN
Posted by: Debra | August 22, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Biden? Just what we need. A guy who plagiarized and got a hair transplant to “tell it like it is”.
Posted by: TMan | August 22, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
THIS TEXT MESSAGE GIMMICK IS A FAILED ATTEMPT TO BRING SOME EXITEMENT BACK INTO A CAMPAIGN THAT HAS GONE FLAT, EXCEPT THE EXCITEMENT LEVEL DROPPED WHEN HILLARY LEFT AND WON’T COME BACK TILL 2012
HILLARY 2012.
Posted by: al
It won’t be any different in 2012. She still won’t get the nomination. She be even older, fatter and more jowley faced.
Posted by: kip | August 22, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Biden does have a wife of three decades. His first wife died in a car accident along with one of his children many years ago.
As far as getting along with Michelle Obama. 1) why does this even matter? 2) Yes, of course – 2 grown women are going to get along.
Posted by: Mike A. In Iowa | August 22, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Biden withdrew from the Presidential Election in shame during the NH Primary in 1988 for plagiarizing, word for word, a speech presented by someone else in England.
Obama is just another Chicago-land political hack with very disconcerting associations.
This time, I am sorry, I have to vote for the moderate in the election: Senator McCain.
Posted by: Steve | August 22, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Biden withdrew from the Presidential Election in shame during the NH Primary in 1988 for plagiarizing, word for word, a speech presented by someone else in England.
Obama is just another Chicago-land political hack with very disconcerting associations.
This time, I am sorry, I have to vote for the moderate in the election: Senator McCain.
Posted by: Steve | August 22, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
I USE TO LIKE OBAMA’S SPEECHES BUT I’M TIRED OF THE SAME NON STOP TALK ABOUT THE SAME NON STOP CHANGE. JOE BIDEN HOW LONG HAS HE BEEN IN THE SENATE?
Posted by: al | August 22, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Obama’s policies are not identical to Hillary’s Hillary loves America and does not have a spouse who was “in the first time of her life proud of America.”
Posted by: Hillary supporter | August 22, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Caroline Kennedy, that would have represented change I could believe in.
Hillary-to much baggage, beside we’d have to cancel the intern program at th Veeps office with bill back.
Posted by: dave rappoport | August 22, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
you hillary people have become such sore losers. cry me a river.
Posted by: ray | August 22, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Lets get the show on the road, Everyone vote for who you want. Either Obama or Mccain will be president. If the democrats lose,it will be the end for both obama and clinton for president.
Americans, and most democrats, are sick
of the child like pettiness that has come from supporters of clinton and obama. It is an embarrassment to those of us other democrats who hoped it would be our turn to really change and
help more of the little guys, and bring
back the middle class.
Posted by: mary | August 22, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
scott nh
there are lots to take on the legacy in 2016.
and I would guess after Caroline Kennedy takes on a senate seat from her uncle (and don’t fool yourselves that is exactly what she is planning)
she will be set up perfectly to run in 2016.
Obama Biden 2008
Kennedy 2016
Posted by: dl | August 22, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Obama better be getting that bump in the polls after the circus in Denver. Wish the Edwards affair had come out today instead, wouldn’t that have been fun?
If Obama had got the bump after Hill dropped out and another bump after the world tour he would be closer to that 15 point bump the Repubs want to see.
Posted by: Debra | August 22, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
OBAMA WILL APPOINT THE FELON REZKO TO HELP END AMERICA’S HOUSING CRISIS APPARENTLY HE DID WONDERS GETTING THE OBAMA’S A 1. 6 MILLION HOME.
Posted by: al | August 22, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
The Dally Bama says:
Guess who my running mate is. No really guess. I will anounce Wed, no I will announce Thurs, No I will annouce Fri. No no I will announce on Saturday.
Guess who my running mate is…. Nanny Nanny Boo Boo!!!!!
Nanny Nanny Boo Boo!!!!! Nanny Nanny Boo Boo!!!!!
I knew he was the junior senator, it turns out he is not even Junior High School level while playing grade school level guessing games. Nanny Nanny Boo Boo!!!!! Nanny Nanny Boo Boo!!!!!
Go home for 8 years and try again when you grow up NoBama.
Posted by: Nanny Nanny Boo Boo | August 22, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Who is true to their party? How can someone state, “We dems always find a way to lose, I’m voting for McCain.” Didn’t Hillary speak of bringing the dem party together after her campain? If you are a Democrat then be Democrat. If you are a hipocrat then I guess that is why you jump ship when you don’t get your way!! That is why you are losers!! Republican all the way! Not Republican today democrat tomorrow. What is the real truth behind the story??
Posted by: Gary | August 22, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Hillary underestimated Obama and look where she is now. An also ran! I just love all the angst from you Hillary and McCain supporters! The geezer is toast!
_______________________
Zogby reported today McCain LEADS Obama by FIVE percent. The angst is yours. It just hasn’t sunk in yet.
Posted by: BoneheadedObama | August 22, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Biden triggers my gag reflex. I think he has that effect on a lot of voters, so I’m all for Nobama/Bye-den ’08!
Posted by: The Oracle | August 22, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
This country is in a big mess. It is only important who will actually do something and serve the country. Not line the pockets of a select special interests.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen | August 22, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Obama Biden Laden – Yeah that’s the ticket!
Posted by: Roone | August 22, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
I SEE OBAMA AND I SEE THE SAME GOOD OLDE POLITICS I’VE SEEN FOR DECADES, HE IS SUPPORTED BY THAT FAMOUS CANIDIATE OF CHANGE TED KENNEDY WHO HAS BEEN IN THE SENATE SINCE 1963 AND STILL WON’T LEAVE WITH BRAIN CANCER AND ALSO SUPPORTED BY CHRIS DODD THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE BANKING COMMITTE WHO DID NOT KNOW HE HAD A VIP MORTGAGE FROM COUNTRY WIDE. REMEMBER THAT LINE FROM THE GODFATHER II “SENATOR WHERE ALL PART OF THE SAME HYPCRISY”
Posted by: al | August 22, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
I wish Hill could be McCain’s choice…he is so bipartisan and everyone knows his record for working across the isle .
HILL SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN
Posted by: Debra | Aug 22, 2008 11:03:55 PM
Yes, everyone except you debra. McCain voted against equal pay for women and most of us find her tolerance of her husband’s repeated infidelity offensive. Do your homework! You’re an embarrassment to our gender! If you want to vote for her that’s your right but don’t try to convince the rest of us that Hillary and McCain aren’t repulsive!
Posted by: kip | August 22, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
I think it time for respect we are the supportor not the manouvers or the manipulators we must respect the elect chioce from His best political judgement in respect to whom is best fit for the task that’s the it will be in a competition is two team that compete in this case it’s senator Barack Obama and senator MCcain in it will be Barack Obama because is evrybody choice.God Bless you and God Bless America and please be strong do your Home work make your calls of support for Barack in put your on trade mark on this election and elect senator Barack Obama president of the United states of America and it is for republicans and independent and Democrate one nation under God a United states of America yes this what Barack Obama wants and I believe it’s achievable we just have to make it happen “yes we can” yes we can”thank’s God almighty yes wecan and we will.
Posted by: Ronald Roy | August 22, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Biden is the one…stupid enough and and egotistical enough.
Posted by: Jessie Jacksoff | August 22, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
My fellow republicans, you are so amusing toying with these dems.
Posted by: Proud Republican | August 22, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
For the record Hillary got approx 500,000 more votes than Obama did. The same amount Al Gore had over Bush. Obama got the nomination from the so called super delegates. Hillary supporters are just as outraged as all democrats were in 2000. We need to go to a popular vote system and let the voters choice prevail. This delegate/electoral vote system is no longer working.
Posted by: maryintampa | August 22, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
I’LL TELL YOU THIS I KNEW EDWARDS WAS CHEATING ON HIS WIFE (HE WSA A PRETTY BOY ) AND I SUSPECT THE SAME OF BIDEN. (NO PRETTY BOY BUT HE HAS A BIG EGO AND HE’S BBEN IN THE SENATE FOR 36 YEARS. POWER GOES TO BOTH HEADS)
Posted by: al | August 22, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
roxanne.
According to the media experts those
democrats are about 13%.
13% is pretty high number….it can
make difference in november…..
Posted by: ROBERT
But it won’t offset the group of Republicans, Vets and the young people who are for Obama!
Posted by: kip | August 22, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
REZKO REMEMBER THAT NAME
Posted by: al | August 22, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Thanks kip! I couldn’t have said it better myself! I’ve read the posts of all of these McCain and Hillary supporters and they haven’t convinced me that Hillary would help Obama, or that McCain can beat him.
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
NOW I SEE WHY EDWARDS WAS SO RUDE TO HILLARY , HE HAS NO RESPECT FOR WOMEN.
Posted by: al | August 22, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Since Obama played the race card first,
lets take a closer look?
The bottom line is you do not spend 20 plus years sitting under a radical like Rev. Wright, aka “potty mouth” a Black Liberation Theologist and say “religion is irrelevant”.
Let me give you an excerpt from Dr. James Cone distinguished Professor, and creator of Black Liberation Theology.
Cone writes: “Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man ‘the devil.’
“Perhaps the most widely quoted of James Cone’s expressions of black liberation theology is this one:
“Black theology cannot accept a view of God which does not represent God as being for oppressed blacks and thus against white oppressors. Living in a world of white oppressors, blacks have no time for a neutral God. The brutalities are too great and the pain too severe, and this means we must know where God is and what God is doing in the revolution. There is no use for a God who loves white oppressors the same as oppressed blacks. We have had too much of white love, the love that tells blacks to turn the other cheek and go the second mile. What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors, here and now, by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject God’s love.” [A Black Theology of Liberation, p. 70]
If after you have read the above and think religion has no relevance, take a step back. Because in the end, the two greatest influences in our thinking after parents is education, and religion, or the lack thereof!
Do not be fooled for a minute! Obama is by far the foremost closet racist in this country with a definitive black agenda, including monetary reparations to black America in the billions. Don’t you find it a little coincidental that 2008 was the first year congress apologized for “Jim Crow Laws”?
Posted by: dave rappoport | August 22, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Is Biden the guy that lied when he ran for Pres? Whoops…..silly me. He’s a democrat. Forgive me for being redundant….
Posted by: snakesup | August 22, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Face it polls mean nothing since they don’t account for cell phones which is more the norm these days. And both parties will be crossing party lines to vote. So unless we have a crystal ball we can’t predict who will win.
Posted by: erin | August 22, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
REZKO REMEMBER THAT NAME
Posted by: al
Why? He’s not going to be president. He’s been indicted, not Obama!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
BIDEN HAS BEEN IN THE SENATE FOR 36 YEARS, SO WHAT KIND OF DIRT DOES THAT BRING, WELL I’D SAY ALOT. LETS SEE.
Posted by: al | August 22, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
without Hillary, obama will lose……with her, he might have a chance…..
Posted by: chris | August 22, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
MILLIONS of parents care too much about their children to vote for anyone other then the best person for the job (Clinton)…..WriteHillaryIn.com
Posted by: chris | August 22, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Interesting that Obama said he would not have picked Clarence Thomas for the Supreme Court because of a lack of experience and then in a television commercial accuses McCain as being part of the problem in Congress because of his 25 years in the senate. Evidently he does not hold the same standard for experience for being President and it must be okay to be VP (assuming he picks Biden) after being in the Senate for 26 years.
Posted by: ms1236 | August 22, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Top 5 Things to Know about Biden:
1. Windbag
2. Stutter as a kid
3. Lousy Hair Transplant
4. Plagiarist
5. Wanted to divide Iraq into 3 countries.
Posted by: Roone | August 22, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER PEOPLES HOUSES OBAMA SHOULD MIND HIS OWN BUSINESS. BOTTOM LINE IF YOU LOOK AT HIS 1.6 MILLION CHICAGO HOUSE PURCHASE IT STINKS BAD.
Posted by: al | August 22, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
average polling in each state, as noticed by cnn the other day, would have mccain winning the electoral vote right now……you know, the only vote that matters on November 4th?
Posted by: chris | August 22, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Thank you erin! I’ve been saying that for months! I think it’s a mistake to discount the cell phone crowd. They are not being polled and that is what I think will be the crux of the landslide for Obama!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Biden would be 74 when Obama’s 2 term ends. That is to old to carry on what is supposed to be a presidency that could change America. There is no legacy to carry on in this guy !
If Obama goes Biden, he’s lost my vote.
Posted by: Scott NH
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Scott, There’s no law stopping Obama from picking
Hillary for VP in 2012. He needs her ideas in the
Senate right now.
Posted by: spacerook1 | August 22, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
obama’s represented to be the messiah and mccain is represented to be the status quo of the worst president in American history……why then, are the polls so close, with mccain ahead in the most important poll, the electoral college vote?
Posted by: chris | August 22, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
I use to be interested, but this is all so junior high.
Posted by: LA Tom | August 22, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
I GUESS OBAMA HAS ALOT IN COMMON WITH MANY AMERICANS, HE WANTED MORE HOUSE THEN HE COULD AFFORD. MAYBE HE SHOULD HAVE ASKED SENATOR CHRIS DODD FOR A REFERRAL FROM COUNTRY WIDE.
Posted by: al | August 22, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
If it is Biden, as it appears, it’s a good pick but not great. Ted Kennedy through Caroline made the pick and chose one of his two best buds (Chris Dodd being the other). Also Biden was Obama’s chair of the Foreign Relations Committee and also chaired Judiciary, and he is an effective fighter and knows the issues. He’s not careful though and can make trouble through carelessness. And he’s as Washington as they come. I also don’t know specifically what state he helps in. What’s worse, if the stories about Hillary not even being vetted are true, there is the potential for civil war. Ted Kennedy had made it clear that Hillary would not be considered but if they were that dismissive it will be a disaster for Obama.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | August 22, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER PEOPLES HOUSES OBAMA SHOULD MIND HIS OWN BUSINESS. BOTTOM LINE IF YOU LOOK AT HIS 1.6 MILLION CHICAGO HOUSE PURCHASE IT STINKS BAD.
Posted by: al
Not as bad as not knowing how many houses you have and your campaign manager pulling the old POW card. Pathetic! Much like his candidate! Nice try but like McCain you have no defense of his bullshit attempt at this man of the people crap!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
ONE HOUSE, ONE SPOUSE — OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!
Posted by: cindy | August 22, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Biden’s actual EXACT comment on video:
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Biden said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
There is a campaign ad waiting to happen.
Yasss suhhhh maser biden you sho nuff be right bout that. the res of us uns, we aint got no good engllishh and wwee anint had no baths for longgg timmeeee. yep maser biden thattt obammy he be a storryyy boook sho nuffff maser biden suhhhh. he be awwfulll bright and cleannn for a blackk mannn huh maser biden man – you racist pricckkkkkk.
Posted by: Master Biden the Racist | August 22, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Christian Theology students gets mob by Obama’s childhood friends in Indonesia where he went to school in a muslim school!!! What does he think about this? Liberals are wishy washy, no conviction blown anywhere they feel comfortable. Now he wants someone as VP to make their decisions for him or when ever he fails he got someone else to blame other than him self. No to Obama, yes to McCain.
Posted by: OM | August 22, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
The only thing more disturbing about the US than the fact that there are so many Republicans, is the fact that there are so many Hillary supporters. Feel free to vote for The Cranky Old Coot, you pathetic whiny sore losers, but also feel free to drop dead.
Posted by: TS | August 22, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Top 5 Things to Know about Biden:
1. Windbag
2. Stutter as a kid
3. Lousy Hair Transplant
4. Plagiarist
5. Wanted to divide Iraq into 3 countries.
Posted by: Roone | Aug 22, 2008 11:23:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>
1) Windbag? – try to meet him/have a conversation with him, he’s got a lot of good stuff to say.
2) Given the tone of what you’re saying, I guess you view this as a negative. It doesn’t matter.
3) Why does the man’s hair bother you?
4) Plagarism – decades ago, owned up to it. Move on.
5) Divid Iraq. Dude, its still likely to happen. Read the plan, it made sense. High fences make good neighbors. The reason for the civil ware over there is the ethnic groups. Its the reason for Bosnia. Its the reason Georgia is back to its own country.
Biden – has the background needed in the WH.
Posted by: Mike A. In Iowa | August 22, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
hopesprings52
But you can’t have it both ways. On the one hand people say Obama doesn’t have enough experience but if he picks someone who does, there will naturally be some risks. I think that Bieden would be great! Despite what the media says he’s just the kind of straight talker that Obama needs. I particularly liked his description of Guliani. A noun, a verb and nine eleven. As someone who works at the World Financial Center which is right in the pit of where the Towers fell I’m sick of that clown and I love the fact that they have Guliani, another adulterer speaking at their convention. Birds of a feather!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
What I don’t wholly understand is that the liberal media has conveniently forgotten that Biden was disgraced, ~12 years ago, for plagiarizing a speech by then British Labour Party leader, Neil Kinnock.
I would have thought that such a shabby action would have tarnished his political career beyond repair but, apparently not.
The liberal media would rather make much of the fact that McCain couldn’t say how many houses were owned by his business magnate wife. So what?
Posted by: Marty | August 22, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
we dems always find a way to lose. biden has a big mouth and is out there. hillary could unite the party but obama is too proud to select a strong woman. obama has made his decision; so have i; this dem is voting mccain.
Posted by: ron |
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Unite the party? If that were so, why, after
she told YOU to vote for Obama , you want
to vote for McCain? She is not uniting it,
she is dividing it! If McCain wins, there will be
no chance in Hell that she will get anyone with
intelligence to vote for her in 2012!
Posted by: spacerook1 | August 22, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
I reside just north approx. 3 miles from Delaware and often read The Wilmington New Journal and I can tell you from the headlines Biden often makes is that he is ONE SMACKED ASS !!!
His wife was the former wife of the U of Del college bar– The Stone Balloon. Yes, a real whoop de du !!!
Posted by: ray | August 22, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Ok.. So lets just show the world how the “Princess syndrome” works. I don’t get my way, then I’m going to go somewhere else to play. Then we can wait another couple of hundred years before a woman is nominated.
Posted by: sharon | August 22, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
With regards to houses, at least McCain paid for his house at the right value. Not in a corrupt way that Obama’s friend NOW IN JAIL!!! Obama’s friend gave him what a 60% discount!!! Is that how they pull strings in Illinois for corrupt politicians such as Obama!!! MEDIA SURE ARE NOT TALKING MUCH ABOUT THIS!!!
Posted by: OM | August 22, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
spacerook1
You’re so right! I can’t understand why Hillary’s supporters don’t get this. Actually I can. They can’t handle the truth. If the country thought she was so great, Obama would not have won! Her supporters continue to say that the election was stolen from her when it was her own history and incompetence that sunk her! We saw her for what she is and they refused to do so!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Biden is the VP
He is in Committee on the Judiciary
* Subcommittee on Antitrust Competition Policy and Consumer Rights
* Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs, (Chairman)
* Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law
* Subcommittee on Immigration Border Security and Citizenship
* Subcommittee on Technology Terrorism and Homeland Security (big one)
Caucus on International Narcotics Control (Co-Chairman)
Has been to the Balkans many times
Georgia recently had war with Russia which is seen by many as a sign to the Balkan region not to talk to the west
Good friends with Republicans such as McCain
He got the package, I assume Obama will choose him, since he is honest, open minded, and does not follow other democratic senators but what he believes is best. Has good domestic and foreign experience.
Posted by: roberto | August 22, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
The Dally Bama says:
Guess who my running mate is. No really guess. I will anounce Wed, no I will announce Thurs, No I will annouce Fri. No no I will announce on Saturday.
Guess who my running mate is…. Nanny Nanny Boo Boo!!!!!
Nanny Nanny Boo Boo!!!!! Nanny Nanny Boo Boo!!!!!
I knew he was the junior senator, it turns out he is not even Junior High School level while playing grade school level guessing games. Nanny Nanny Boo Boo!!!!! Nanny Nanny Boo Boo!!!!!
Go home for 8 years and try again when you grow up NoBama.
Posted by: Nanny Nanny Boo Boo |
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Time for your medication “Nanny Nanny Boo Boo”
Posted by: spacerook1 | August 22, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
YEP.. the secret service are being dispatched to BIDEN. I was right days ago when I said he was going to get the nod. He said on MEET THE PRESS he didn’t want it .. but IF ASKED he would do it. hmmmm
They are doing a whole bio on BIDEN ON nightline right now. Guess that cinches it!
Posted by: caroldee | August 22, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Great! Biden and Obama….that would certainly round out the conceit and megalomania! At least Biden can complete a sentence without sounding like a blithering idiot.
Posted by: JP McT | August 22, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Doesn’t anyone remember that Biden is a plagiarist? That’s why he had to drop his last presidential bid. Here’s a guy who can’t even be trusted to submit his own work in school and someone would choose him to be VP?
I suppose he can just copy whatever Obama does.
Posted by: Mike | August 22, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Mike A in Iowa:
Did u watch the Roberts Supreme Court Hearing that Biden chaired? He bloviated for his 15 minutes and didn’t even ask a question! There are many other occasions he has done the same at Senate hearings – that’s why he is a windbag.
On Iraq, he supported the war and his solution was to divide country in 3 – more places for terrorists to hide.
How can Obama pick someone who voted for the Iraq war? He’s based his campaign against Hillary and McCain on having the right judgment on Iraq.
Posted by: Roone | August 22, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Here is a crazy thought. What if the VP choice is Hillary!!! Do you take back all the comments you made!
Posted by: Gary | August 22, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Regardless of all comments posted I recalled an article during the aftermath of the last presidential campaign between Bush and Kerry stating “Is 500,000 American that dumb?” I just wanted to let you guys know I know some of you were in that crowd so please don’t make that same mistake for the rest of us again. The choice for the next President of the United States should be crystal clear here, come on now.
Posted by: living_thinker | August 22, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Why should Barack go for Hillary?
Her negatives are too obvious, and have been known for too long. Namely:
1. Bill
2. Baggage
Next topic?
Posted by: tex805 | August 22, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
OM
That’s because there’s no story. Do yor homework! The couple that the Obama’s bought the house from said that the Obama’s made 3 bids and they took the third one. The deal you’re talking about was a purchase of part of the lot next to the property that Obama bought from Rezko’s wife. In hind sight Obama said that it was a boneheaded decison given that Tony Rezko had contributed to his campaign for the Senate. Stop watching faux new and read up on the facts!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
To all you LiamObamaians who say McCain is too old: well, Biden is not far behind him////so whatsa say now?????
64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80 ARE NOT TOO OLD. IT TAKES EXPERIENCE TO BE A GREAT LEADER, NOT BOOK LEARNING. YOU YOUNG ONES WILL FIND THAT OUT. MOST OF YOU WHO TALK ABOUT AGE ARE SO WET BEHIND THE EARS AND HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO TRUE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IT REALLY TAKES TO BE GREAT, BUT SOME OF YOU WILL LEARN.
Posted by: Michael McCoy | August 22, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
It should be made Federal Law…
The Legal Manadatory Age(s) to run for President of the USA will be…..
Minimum Age: 45
Maximum Age: 57
Nothing More, Nothing Less.
I Like Biden..But he’s Too Old !!
Biden also Tends to Talk Too Much !!!
Posted by: o. | August 22, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Here is a crazy thought. What if the VP choice is Hillary!!! Do you take back all the comments you made!
Posted by: Gary
No, we don’t. See, if Obama pick her he will lose because all of the people who voted for him will not vote for him if he picked her. See, we voted for him because we didn’t like her. This is why she wasn’t vetted. He knows that he could win without her but he couldn’t win with her. Got it?
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
If it is Biden, get ready for the biggest GOP landslide ever!!! Because Obama is so jaw-droppingly stupid, choosing Biden would just provide more evidence of the mental void. Biden is a megalomaniac (pathological egotist), and that is bad for “The ONE”. What a screwed up bunch the Democrotches are!
Posted by: William | August 22, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
McGoo is too old and Biden is not running for president.
Posted by: zz | August 22, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Obama has one foot in his mouth and the other up his A###
Posted by: Hillary supporter
****************************************
Please vote for Nader, your definitely
not Democrat or Republican material.
Posted by: spacerook1 | August 22, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
OMG who care? What is this a child saying “i know, but I’m not going to tell you, you have to guess.” PLEEZ, spare us and grow up already.
Posted by: bluebird | August 22, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Biden’s an excellent pick. He’s experienced, yet he still is a breath of fresh air and represents change. Absolutely the best pick at this point.
Hillary would have been okay, but she showed that her management skills were very poor, with a collapsing campaign and so much debt. She had anger problems and mood swings. Biden is the best pick.
Posted by: john93 | August 22, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Obama also said he barley knew Rezko and had luch once or twice a year. Later he said he may have been more than that and he finally owned up to many months he spoke to him daily. The fund raising by Rezko started at $50,000 and turned into 250,000. Obama also had a man in Rezko’s trial everyday monitoring it to see if he would be incriminated. All of this information and much more is available. Everyone needs to do their research.
Posted by: maryintampa | August 22, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
“Obama and Biden have never been governor, never run a business, never been on economic committees.
Obama should have picked someone with business and economic experience because Obama has no economic education.”
You couldn’t be more wrong. Obama ran a spectacularly successful campaign, built from the ground up, which is why he defeated Hillary, despite the fact that she had every possible advantage.
Posted by: Deeplip | August 22, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Posted by: Roone
Unlike McCain who claims he would reach out across party lines, Obama would actually do it! As opposed to McCain with his stunt about picking someone who was Pro choice just to remain in the news. It was really transparent. He wasn’t getting enough press because everyone is interested in the new guy so his campaign came up with that crap and those idiots in the media jumped on it. Dopes!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Source: Clinton has been told she’s not the VP pick
Posted: 11:01 PM ET
From CNN Correspondent Jessica Yellin
Clinton has been informed she will not be Obama’s VP.
Clinton has been informed she will not be Obama’s VP.
(CNN) – Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama has ruled out Senator Hillary Clinton as his vice presidential running mate, a senior Democratic official told CNN on Friday night.
Clinton — Obama’s main rival during the primary season — has been informed by Obama’s campaign that she is not his choice to be his vice presidential candidate, the source said.
Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton
Posted by: jimmy | August 22, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Post at 11:29….is that on tape, Biden saying that about Obama?
Great ad material for McCan
Posted by: Debra | August 22, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Okay, it’s a deal. Don’t vote for Obama this time and I won’t vote for Hillary next time. Let’s see, we are currently suffering through eight years of the worst presidential term in history and McCain will continue that. I don’t think I’ll need to vote in 2012. Given the damage Bush has done and the continuation with McCain, I’m not sure.
Posted by: Mike | August 22, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
maryintampa
So!
Tell us maryintampa, who is facing jail time? Can you tell us that?
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Obama economics 101 “Our 482 billion dollar deficit is reprehensible”
I pulled figures from the census (Census.Gov) and here is what I found.
The least Obama’s health plan will cost is
422 Billion dollars first year.
His plan to give every family in America
$1.000 Dollars= 311 Billion dollars.
Total Just 2 of his programs:
733 BILLION (with a B) dollars,
These two of his programs (not counting his other major financial programs) represents 1.2 Trillion dollars
in new spending. This represents 48.7% of the governments total take in taxes in 2007. (2.437 Trillion dollars)
This represents for the 153.6 million working Americans a NEW tax burden of
$7,812.50 for everyone.
How will Obama pay for this: Defense Department your fired! Hey Putin/Mevedev
we are eagerly awaiting you to annex the U.S. as a suburb of Russia.
Obama President…this will end racism,
cause we all gonna be his negro’s!
Posted by: dave rappoport | August 22, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
No Justice No Peace
Posted by: Hillary supporter | August 22, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Roone,
No, I did not watch the Senate hearings or Roberts’ confirmation hearings. I’ve heard/read what you say before, but when I went to campaign events in Iowa, I got good, direct info. If the issue is as bad you would like to believe, I think he’s worked to minimize it.
He didn’t publish the 3-state solution until after the civil war issues. The 3-state solution would lead to a much more peaceful settlment. To which terrorist do you refer? We can’t find them in Pakistan/Afganistan what does it matter if Iraq is one or 3 countries?
Obama can pick someone who voted for the war because you don’t always have to agree. I wouldn’t expect the VP to be a parrot.
Posted by: Mike A. In Iowa | August 22, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Post at 11:29….is that on tape, Biden saying that about Obama?
Great ad material for McCan
Posted by: Debra
But not enough to derail the freight train that’s going to crush the old man with the yellow teeth and the memory lapses!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
MOST OF YOU WHO TALK ABOUT AGE ARE SO WET BEHIND THE EARS AND HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO TRUE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IT REALLY TAKES TO BE GREAT, BUT SOME OF YOU WILL LEARN.
Posted by: Michael McCoy
*********************************************
Sorry, Experience and age are not homogeneously
entwined in this case. Running a country is not the
same as running a business.
Posted by: spacerook1 | August 22, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Debra and other Clinton Loyalists,
Grow up!
If you’re actually planning on voting for McBush, I mean McCain, your either naive, blind, vindictive, Nader-ites, stupid or all of the above. I can’t imagine any Democratic considering actually voting for McPandercane, unless they’re bluffing or in need of a medication change.
Get a grip, remember the supreme court, and get real.
Duhhhhh.
Posted by: mctommy | August 22, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
I guarantee you Hillary Kool-Aid drinkers that a vote for McCain in ’08 is not a vote for Hillary in 2012. If you can hold your noses long and hard enough to vote for that moron (McCain) for President, then you get the country you deserve, and you were never Democrats to begin with. Also, if it looks like Hillary is only going through the motions for Obama while hoping for a turn in 2012, that turn is not going to come. You might want to look more along the lines of Obama/Biden ’08–Obama/Clinton ’12. If those of you who are not Rethuglican trolls are seriously thinking of voting for John “I Don’t Know How Many Houses I Own” McCain as some kind of protest for Clinton losing the nomination, you might want to plan on Clinton running as a Republican in ’12–if Obama doesn’t win because of your petty malfeasance, you and she won’t be as welcome as you think you’re going to be.
Posted by: James Sweet | August 22, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
maryintampa:
Will you guys shut up with the ayers and rezko crap? I don’t care that he bought a house from some developer who bribed somebody. Obama had nothing to do with it, it’s a load of crap. As for Ayers, Obama was 6 years old and didn’t know ayers when Ayers did the vandalism. Obama met ayers when he was a college professor, serving with republicans and others on a board.
Obama had nothing to do with them and should have to answer for every action that every person he know ever did. It’s just ludacris
Mccain was involved in Keating 5 corruption himself, and should be held to account for that since HE DID IT.
Posted by: john93 | August 22, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
So Roxanne
that makes lying OK? Just so you don’t face jail time.
Posted by: maryintampa | August 22, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
I wish you Hillary and McCain supporters would just shut the hell up. Hillary lost okay? Get over it. McCain is so out of touch with what is going on in the world today he doesn’t even use a computer. You want more of Bush, vote for McCain. Idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: geocoo | August 22, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
No Justice No Peace
Posted by: Hillary supporter
Ha Ha Ha! Now, we’re really scared! You’ve really made a sound argument with that comment!
No Hillary, no problem!
Posted by: roxanne | August 22, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Do the stubborn Hilary supporters realize McCain has pledged to overturn Roe v. Wade??
Posted by: Reason | August 22, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Saw on CNN the other morning the DNC is reviewing their primary process and by 2012 will reduce super delegates, change dates and get rid of caucuses….TOO LITTLE TOO LATE.
Popular votes won should be the system…won’t help Hillary now but maybe the next best Dem candidate (2012) will have the benefit.
HILL SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN
Posted by: Debra | August 22, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Actually geocoo I think McGoo just sent his first email.
Posted by: zz | August 22, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Looks like McCain has my vote now
Posted by: TeeJay | August 23, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Dear Debra at 10:59 P.M.,
Your question was” Does Biden have a Wife?
I checked my 2008 Bagdad street walkers directory, he is in fact married, 3 list him as husband
Great question!
Posted by: dave rappoport | August 23, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
: geocoo
You’re so right! I’m sick of reading the post of those idiots. Obama is going to win and it’s killing them. They can see the writing on the wall and there lashing out with some of the stupidest comments I’ve seen. I’m so tired of them. I’d like to line them all up and btch slap them….you know, like Obama did to Hillary! I read the other day that she had some work done on her face. Too bad you can’t get a personality transplant!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
I met Joe Biden a long time ago in NH. It was a small gathering during the Democratic primary and I was struck by how well he handled himself in front of a group of very smart people. He was brilliant. He answered every question without hesitation, and had a grasp of domestic and foreign policies that was remarkable.
His idea to split Iraq into three countries has a lot of merit and worth pursuing for obvious reasons. If I were president, I’d want a guy with a breadth and depth of knowledge of how both Washington works and how Washington relates to (or doesn’t relate to)the world as my go to guy when the crap really flies. For a closer look at the guy, stream an interview he did with Tom Ashbrook on NPR’s On Point show. He’s still got it, and my vote.
Posted by: Jeff | August 23, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
I still remember when Biden plagiarized that British politician’s speech and misappropriated his life story — similar to what Hillary did with the sniper fire in Bosnia. This is like a train wreck waiting to happen — so sad. I’m voting for McCain, and I am sure there will be millions of other Dems like me who do the same.
Posted by: Disillusioned Democrat | August 23, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Debra
Schedule an appointment with your psychiatrist. You need to deal with your Hillary issues. Do this before its too late (Nov 4th). A concerned friend.
Posted by: mctommy | August 23, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
dave rappoport
Actually dave you’re right. He is married. Or more accurate, he’s remarried. His first wife and infant daughter were killed in a car accident. His two boys survived the accident and his sister moved in with the family right after the accident. His is a tragic and triumphant american story. Most of the idiots on this post don’t have a clue because they don’t do their homework. Typical McCain and Hillary supporters!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
I heard from a source today that Obama’s VP choice was Tom Daschle.
Posted by: GroversCorners | August 23, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Roxanne,geocoo,maryintampa, john93,James Sweet,
mctommy,Mike A. In Iowa, We need to pull together
because the untrue rumors will be flying now
Posted by: spacerook1 | August 23, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80 ARE NOT TOO OLD. IT TAKES EXPERIENCE TO BE A GREAT LEADER, NOT BOOK LEARNING. YOU YOUNG ONES WILL FIND THAT OUT.
MOST OF YOU WHO TALK ABOUT AGE ARE SO WET BEHIND THE EARS AND HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO TRUE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IT REALLY TAKES TO BE GREAT, BUT SOME OF YOU WILL LEARN.
Posted by: Michael McCoy
——————–
MCCAIN AND THE WORDS “GREAT” & “EXPERIENCE” DO NOT MESCH.
SORRY…
JOHN “SEMI-SENILE” MCCAIN IS TOO OLD AND HE’S A BLATANT “CAREER POLITICIAN” & TRUE TO FORM OUT OF TOUCH “ELITIST”
JOHN MCAIN WOULD’VE HAD THE USA MILITARY, FIGHTING IN GEORGIA AGAINST RUSSIA AN EVENTUALLY OUR (1ST NUCLEAR WAR)THOUGH WE ARE SPREAD PAPER THIN, AS IT IS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN AND OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD.
NOTE: CHINA WILL SOON SOUND OFF ON THIS CONFLICT, AFTER THE OLYMPICS AN IT WILL NOT BE IN THE USA’S FAVOR…
YOU SEE OBAMA’S “DIRECT DIPLOMACY” BEING USED IN IRAN AND NOW IN THE RUSSIA-GEORGIA CONFLICT…
IT FOREMOST SAVES LIVES AND IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE, THAN MASS MURDER ON BOTH SIDES….DUH
YOU SEE JOHN MCCAIN CHANGE HIS “WE ARE GEORGIAN” STANCE AND SAID TUESDAY, WE WILL NOT SEND MILITART MIGHT TO THAT REGION, IT WOULD NOT BE WISE…
MCCAIN TOUGH TALK…SQUASHED AGAIN.
OBAMA “DIRECT DIPLOMACY” PREVAILS
I GUESS SOME OF YOU WON’T BE SATISFIED UNTIL, WE ARE NUKED BY RUSSIA, CHINA, PAKISTAN OR INDIA..
THIS IS NOT A JOHN WAYNE, CLINT EASTWOOOD, LEE MARVIN MOVIE…
THERE ARE BIGGER BOYS ON THE WORLD STAGE AND THEY ALSO HAVE A STOCK PILE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND MEAN BUSINESS
———————–
NOTE: MCCAIN IS A WAR MANIAC AN IF ELECTED, HE WILL IMPLEMENT THE DRAFT…
BECAUSE OF THE LOW ENLISTMENT RATE OF US MALES AN FEMALES…
YOU CAN HAVE JOHN MCCAIN’S “EXPERIENCE”
———————
GIVE ME OBAMA’S BALANCED MIND AND LOGIC AND HIS WAR, WHEN ALL ELSE HAS FAILED..
UNLIKE, MCCAIN, BUSH, CHENEY AND RICE.
Posted by: o. | August 23, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
I am so so very sad that I find myself entertaining hateful thoughts. So sorry hillary. You are the best. i used to thing that Obama was OK but 2nd rate next to u. Now i find him despicable.
Posted by: as | August 23, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
All these posts from Obama and Hillary supporters show how divided the Democratic Party is. If Obama cannot even unite his own Party, how can he unite the Nation?
Posted by: david | August 23, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
roxanne,
I really think you need to take a look at our site. You would especially find it interesting…
http://www.womenforjohnmccain.com/
After you look maybe you can help us spread the word to all McCain supporters and Hillary PUMA women…
Posted by: Daisy | August 23, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
Quotes from Joe Biden that will haunt the campaign if he is Obama’s VP Pick.
On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”
Assessing Obama’s Iraq plan on September 13, 2007: “My impression is [Obama] thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany” of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. “I’ve seen zero evidence of that.”
December 11, 2007: “If Iowans believe campaign funds and celebrity will fix the debacle in Iraq, put the economy on track, and provide health care and education for America’s children, they should support another candidate,” said Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro. “But I’m confident that Iowans know what I know: our problems will require experience and leadership from Day One. Empty slogans will be no match for proven action on caucus night.”
Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who…”
Posted by: susie | August 23, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
Just wondering BUT, What if Hillary won by ohh lets say 200 votes like the chosen one will next week and she didn’t even vet the chosen one for veep. How many of you obama fans would be pissed at her. Be honest . So Im sure since you don’t care about half the democratic party you wont complain when we vote for Mccain. The chosen one failed to unite our party, how pathetic.
Posted by: ed | August 23, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Joe Biden is an accident waiting to happen. Are these guys really serious? They want to end the week with Biden after the gross mishandling of the Georgian affair, the brother in a crate mess, the ill-timed Hawaii vacation, the tele-prompter disclosure, the abortion bill lies, and a free-fall in the polls. Unbelievable!!!!
Posted by: Steve C | August 23, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Posted by: Disillusioned Democrat
Only if they’re on crystal meth. The fact is that the story you’re talking about was similar to Bieden’s and he’d credited that person every time but once. The difference is that Hillary’s story was just that…a story. She made the whole thing up because it sounded more dramatic. That’s the kind of experience the majority of us rejected! It was complete bullshit!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
God/ you guys get so pissy with us Hillary supporters….your guy is gonna win right? Show some confidence, like your Messiah….he said to his S.F. big money doners the other night “he’s going to win”….you don’t need all 5 million plus, of us…chill.
INDEPENDENT WHO WAS FOR HILLARY NOW OBAMA…..Leave me alone. I usually vote Republican.
McCAIN ’08/Hillary ’12
Gerri Ferraro said on H & C the other night she doesn’t know if she can vote for BO…this from a former Dem VP candidate!
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Steve C
Who’s still leading? The only reason that the Obama camp is likely prolonging this is because of the gift from McCain. He’s toast and you can all suck it! Suck it hard!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
Obama bin Biden.
Posted by: jason | August 23, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
I can’t wait to see who McGoo picks.
Posted by: zz | August 23, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Big typo, I’ve never made that mistake before. Should be HILL SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN at 12:11!
For what it’s worth…since blogging in Feb. til now…..I notice the most passionate fighting takes place within the Dem party…Hill vs. BO….not good. Those 18 million cracks in the ceiling are coming down.
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Will you guys shut up with the ayers and Rezko Crap? I don’t care that he bought a house from some developer who bribed somebody. Obama had nothing to do with it, it’s a load of crap. As for Ayers, Obama was 6 years old and didn’t know ayers when Ayers did the vandalism. Obama met ayers when he was a college professor, serving with republicans and others on a board.
Obama had nothing to do with them and should have to answer for every action that every person he know ever did. It’s just ludacris
Mccain was involved in Keating 5 corruption himself, and should be held to account for that since HE DID IT.
Posted by: john93
——————————-
John
I Agree
Some of these Racist-Bigots are So Fearful and Scared to Death of Obama…
Yet they Embrace the Most Feeble Minded, Dull, Wealthy, Career Politician to ever represent the Republican Party since, well…
Since George W. Bush Jr himself and I would have to say Bush Jr. is a Brighter an More Brilliant Light Bulb, than…
John “Semi-Senile” McCain and that says a lot, when comparing Bush Jr. to John “Semi-Senile” McCain !!!
Posted by: o. | August 23, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Debra,
If you actually think that a vote for McIdiot in ’08 would facilitate a vote for Hillary in ’12, then you need to REALLY change your meds.
Posted by: mctommy | August 23, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Posted by: Debra
Gerri Ferraro? She’s a bitter, old, and wrinkled up hag whose ovaries atrophied a long time ago and she’s also a loser! No wonder she supports Hillary.
As for Hannity and Combs. Sean Hannity is a pigged face loser who actually quoted Corsi’s book on his show and attributed a quote to Obama that was actually made by Rev. Wright. Now this probably pleases you but did you know that this same scum bag Corsi also wrote an article about McCain where he said that his campaign in 2000 was partially funded by Al Qaeda? At least now we know why your comments are so off base and misinformed. Once again, I emplore you to do your homework and stop watching Fox News! It’s owned by Rupert Murdoch. He’s a foreigner you know! I would think that someone like you would find that offensive!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
I live in Washington and a reliable source tells me that Senator Obama has chosen Michael Phelps as his running mate. Mr. Phelps is now on his way back from China.
Posted by: Frank | August 23, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Dear Democrats…WAKE UP!
John Dean rigged the election, knowing that Florida and Michigan would have gone for Hillary. In spite of this Hillary still won the popular vote by 252,000 plus.
So Democrats, your party says “You is irrelevant, cause us party hacks knows whats best, not you good fo nothin mowrons who vote”.
Our Country has a law called the Stolen Valor Act. I propose a new addendum to that law after Hillary’s Bosnia Landing story, it’s called the Acquired Stupidity Act!
Posted by: dave rappoport | August 23, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
I will wait for President McCain’s selection for VP. McCain’s selection will be the Vice President of the United States.
Posted by: martha S. | August 23, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
Obama, where’s the text?
Look dippy, grown-ups don’t like it when you make a commitment and don’t keep it.
We need a grown-up for President.
Hillary ’08.
Posted by: ragnar30066 | August 23, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
Biden is from the working class, his son was in harms way,he knows as much as
Cheney, Bush, Mccain and Rice together
about Foreign and Domestic Policy and is not out for him/herself like Billary. Obama needs some one to keep and Eye on the Trilateralists and the Neocons. Biden knows the danger of both cliques. Obama and Biden both realize how much the Bush regime has cost us
in the US and Abroad. The Sheeple and Dittoheads notwithstanding, They will
evicerate the warmonger and whatever
used car salesman he picks. The Hillary
Hacks back MCBush? Shows you where their
hearts really lie.
Obama a
Posted by: Joe Maleon | August 23, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
Biden is from the working class, his son was in harms way,he knows as much as
Cheney, Bush, Mccain and Rice together
about Foreign and Domestic Policy and is not out for him/herself like Billary. Obama needs some one to keep and Eye on the Trilateralists and the Neocons. Biden knows the danger of both cliques. Obama and Biden both realize how much the Bush regime has cost us
in the US and Abroad. The Sheeple and Dittoheads notwithstanding, They will
evicerate the warmonger and whatever
used car salesman he picks. The Hillary
Hacks back MCBush? Shows you where their
hearts really lie.
Obama a
Posted by: Joe Maleon | August 23, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
This news dribbling out late at night is not a big news break. They blew it. so glad on Larry King they just said people vote for the top of the ticket, thank God because I like Biden and hate Obummer for prez.
HILL SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Roxanne, it’s trailer trash like you and the other obamabotts that really make it impossible to support Obama. Although I voted for him in the primary, I will give my support to McCain because I wouldn’t want to be consider an idiot such as yourself. You’re the perv…rumor has it that Obama likes the guys, maybe that’s why he’s married to such a manish woman who for her first time in her adult life is proud of the US. What a joke these two monkeys are.
Posted by: Oprah McCain | August 23, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
o and mctommy
You’re both dead on and to tell you the truth between debra and these other moron McCain and Hillary supporters, my arm and fingers are starting to hurt from typing so fast, responding to their idiotic comments. I think I’ll take a break and have a few beers!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
Biden, the man that wanted to be on the same ticket with McCain, 8 years ago. I’m glad Obama picked a McCain supporter!
Posted by: Art in Dayton | August 23, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
Joe Biden is running for reelection for his Senate seat in 2008 — Can he run for both VP and the Senate at the same time?
Posted by: susie | August 23, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
What say you Obama ?..Your lack of knowledge have you running for someone who can teach how to be a leader. Obama is a fake,hands down. I know that when “something sounds to good to be true” is ussually correct, a fake.Let’s see your resume> 1. A civil leader in Chicago 2. A couple of years in the Illinois Senate and 3. Half a term as a US Senator.Wow that is a resume! At the best Obama you can be a New Orleans, Honolulu , Louisville etc. mayor and nothing else.You have a long way to go before you can reach the top of the ladder.What is visible is this man is going to be a puppet for big interest groups that by the way are pouring millions on his campaign and there you have it.
Posted by: Frank | August 23, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Q: Biden’s 65 – not that much younger than McCain. Doesn’t that sort of put a damper on the bigoted “too old” charge from Obama supporters?
A:Probably not there is no double standard too blatant and ballsy for Obama supporters.
They’d say that McCain was too old and 90-yr-old Byrd was wise and experienced in the same breath.
Posted by: jerry | August 23, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
Senator Biden has stated he would not accept the V P spot, if offered. Maybe, he is a flip-flopper like Obama.
Posted by: abe | August 23, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
This is a sad day because you Obamacans were determined to be arrogant and do it your own way when you know it may not work and you are destroying the democratic party in the proocess… you are pathetic! Obama will not win… you liberal nuts who are gufawing over Mccains housing gaffe are crazy to think that that has any traction when you yourselves have about 10 houses each and it was probably given to you! THe Democratic has never changed and it wasnt Clinton using the nuclear option after all it was Obama that used it… THis is America you do not destroy people just for spite!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Oprah McCain
Trailor Trash? Perhaps you can’t read ass wipe but I work for Merrill Lynch at the World Financial Center. They’re the building that were connected to the World Trade Center. It’s typical of morons like you to make statments without facts to back them up. I suspect that you have a really small penis! If you’re a woman, you’re probably a smelly whore. See, I can give as good as I can get!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Roxanne will your drinking a few beers why don’t you do what you always do, suck it, suck it hard.
Posted by: Oprah McCain | August 23, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
OBAMA KENNEDY 2008
OBAMA KENNEDY 2008
OBAMA KENNEDY 2008
OBAMA KENNEDY 2008
OBAMA KENNEDY 2008
OBAMA KENNEDY 2008
OBAMA KENNEDY 2008
Posted by: Aristotle 2008 | August 23, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
staniam
What? But that celebrity crap was supposed to be hard hitting?
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
“See, I can give as good as I can get!”
Which only proves Oprah McCain’s point!
Please, wipe the kool-aid stain from around your lips and shut up.
PUMA!
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 23, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Biden stated that Obama is too inexperienced to be president. He further stated there is no on-the-job training for president. Is Biden the VP nominee for the democrats or republicans?
Posted by: Barry | August 23, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
BARACK OBAMA CAROLINE KENNEDY 2008
BARACK OBAMA CAROLINE KENNEDY 2008
BARACK OBAMA CAROLINE KENNEDY 2008
BARACK OBAMA CAROLINE KENNEDY 2008
BARACK OBAMA CAROLINE KENNEDY 2008
BARACK OBAMA CAROLINE KENNEDY 2008
BARACK OBAMA CAROLINE KENNEDY 2008
Posted by: Aristotle 2008 | August 23, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Well Miss Thing, if you work for Merrill Lynch, then I guess spelling isn’t important to them because you sure can’t spell worth a damn. I’d fire your ass on the spot. Just one example would be like your home you mentioned in your last posting, don’t you know that trailer is spelled trailer and not trailor. Excellent education, must be one of those educated voters supporting Obama.
Posted by: Oprah McCain | August 23, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Please, PLEASE choose Biden! That way, its for SURE Obama will lose the election in November!
Posted by: LMAO! | August 23, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
I love watching Democrats stil bickering over Clinton and Obama, it just means Rush’s plan is working. Obama 08 Osama 09
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | August 23, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Wow, the foul mouthed youth is here to represent Obummer.
So glad Candi Crowley just reminded me people always vote for the top of the ticket….I was getting worried, cause I like Biden and hate Obama and there are millions more like me out there….Hill supporters. Biden won’t help him….for that matter Hillary wouldn’t have helped him with me either.
McCain ’08
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Roxanne,
I agree that a beer is in order after reading the disordered cognitive processes of the repubs posing as independents and dems on this string. Some of them seem demented and need serious help. Obama will win, and maybe then they will see the Light. He is a good man, and I can’t wait for him to restore American honor in the world after eight Macavellian years of Cheney-Bush. Plus, he actually has a brain of his own, vs. the RNCbots
Posted by: mctommy | August 23, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Oprah McCain
Nice, but it is you who will have to suck it hard when the dirty old man is crushed by Obama! Besides, you strike me as a tiny little man, like McCain!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Barry that’s a good question however the answer is clear the text in the morning will be:
BARACK OBAMA CAROLINE KENNEDY 2008
Posted by: Aristotle 2008 | August 23, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
I can give you 9.8 million reasons why Obama won’t be the next president. The DNC cheated Hillary, now they lost the election.
PUMA PUMA PUMA PUMA PUMA PUMA PUMA PUMA
Posted by: Art in FL. | August 23, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
IT’S OFFICIAL…OBAMA OFFERS VP TO BIDEN, ANNOUNCING NOW ON CNN
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
mctommy |
Exactly mctommy! Unlike McCain, Obama actually speaks for the Obama campaign!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
I think McCain will be able to win with just the p*ssed off Hillary supporters alone.
What a pathetic party this is. No wonder our emblem is a jackass!
Posted by: Molly Ringwater | August 23, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Look, you don’t need nasty comments and childish personal attacks. This election in the fall will increase the democrat’s ranks in the House and the Senate, no question. The other given is that McCain will win. It’s almost September and in this “perfect storm” year Obama and McCain are tied.McCain is actually way ahead with both likely voters and undecideds. The resolution of the Iraq war along with recent developments with Russia have pretty much put an end to the Obama party. Throw Biden in there and we can call it a night. We had our chance with Hillary and we let it slip away. All the party leaders know that.
Posted by: Steve C | August 23, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
So Biden went for the D version of McCain, Great! What if Hilliary’s crazy supporters follow up on her RFK threat and “Sideshow Joe” is President… I got two words for that “Oh S***!!!”
Posted by: argh! | August 23, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
I see from the postings here tonight that the Republicans are very afraid. And rightly so.
Posted by: Richard | August 23, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Listen roxanne, your islamic messiah will never rise to power no matter how many times a day you pray on your magic carpet. get over it.
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | August 23, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Actually, I’m a tiny little woman and I don’t like McCain anymore than I like Obama, they are both creeps, you strike me as a pot bellied old man, like McCain with moles all over your face like Obama.
Posted by: Oprah McCain | August 23, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
What if it isn’t Biden—America you’ve been punked?
Posted by: clarity | August 23, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
LARRY KING’S FIRST CALLER AFTER ANNOUNCING IT’S JOE BIDEN, A SCHOOL TEACHER FROM NY, SAID HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A DEM AND CANNOT VOTE FOR BO NOW. HE WAS A HILLARY SUPPORTER AND BIDEN IS NOT OK WITH HIM
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
The news of Biden as the vp nominee, put a smile on the face of Karl Rove and the republican party. :)
Posted by: Bart | August 23, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Oh, please, please, please, let it be Biden. McCain supporters are going to have so much fun with Barry and Biddy. Let’s see in 1988, in a run for president, Biden plagerized his entire BIOGRAPHY speech, how pathetic!, Aug 10, 2007, said he would unequivocally not be vice president if asked. January 31, 2007 he said “I mean, Obama is a mainstream African-American, who is articulate and clean-cut” Wow, what a racist. At least he and Barry will have something in common.
Posted by: S Adams | August 23, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
of course it isn’t biden. ITS OSAMA!
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | August 23, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
IT’S OFFICIAL…OBAMA OFFERS VP TO BIDEN, ANNOUNCING NOW ON CNN
Posted by: Debra
Well thanks Debra! If they’re correct, that’s Great!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
of course it isn’t biden. ITS OSAMA!
Posted by: PatrioticTexan |
Ah! Another insightful observation!
Moron!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
Dear Debra,
Thank you for you gracious comment regarding my knowledge of Biden and his wife.
I already know everything I need to know
about Mr. Biden: Liar, plagiarist, thief.
It’s not Obama’s race that scares me, the decision making ability of this intellectual geopolitical neophyte.
By the way, scroll up to my Obama econ 101 comment, and you will clearly see he is an individual who would require a geological mining team to perform rectal-cranial inversion surgery.
P.S. Since you obviously need the same procedure, let me know where I can contribute!
Posted by: dave rappoport | August 23, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
I wonder if Obama’s Supporters are still waiting for their text message????
lol :D
PUMA! Coming to the polls with YOU!
cluck…
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 23, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Roxanne…
You obviously never studied international relations…Bosnia did not pan out, the problems still exist as does the inter-ethnic violence.
Cutting Iraq into three parts is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard. Once that happens every region of the world that has a diverse ethnic makeup will ask for the same thing.
OH WAIT…ITS ALREADY HAPPENING IN GEORGIA.
Read up on history, Roxanne.
Posted by: roxanneneverbeenthere | August 23, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
excuse me sandman,
your liberal state of mind is very odd to logical persons. racism is no excuse.a bad childhood is no excuse. poverty is no excuse. quit accusing others of racism sir, when it is accually you, who is the only one to point it out, is the racist who speaks among us.
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | August 23, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Roxanne
if the first woman to run for Pres and be serious about it comes up just 200 votes short..that alone says your man and savior Obama will not win theelection and certainly not by a landslide the pick of Biden is a contradiction to what the messiah said that he could tolerate throughout the campaign… you people will never recover from this!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
The news of Biden as the vp nominee, put a smile on the face of Karl Rove and the republican party. :)
Posted by: Bart | Aug 23, 2008 12:47:54 AM
I totally agree. With Biden as the VP and his “always sticking his foot in his mouth” speeches, Obama will sure lose in November. Also, remember, that Biden supported McCain in voting for the Iraq war and stated that Obama was too inexperienced to run for President. The GOP is LOVING this! Obama just gave them more fire power to cause McCain’s win to be a landslide in November! America, get ready to say, “Welcome, President John McCain”.
Posted by: david from texas | August 23, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
The reason that Senator Biden is the best choice is not only because of his experience and expertise in foreign affairs and judicial system; but also the fact that B. Obama will be able to focus on his job without worrying a VP who could be disloyal and ambitious to dislodge his presidency in the future. BTW, can somebody tell me how many enemy planes did McCain shot down before he was captured?
Posted by: Sutter197 | August 23, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
I thought Biden was a McCain fan/friend? They probably have more in common than Biden and lil boy bama.
Biden was the most agressive choice, equal to Hillary to go at it.
Sad Obambi needs to find those nuts Jessie cut off.
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
It’s on the news, Biden is the VP for Loserbama. He will be Obama’s teacher for foreign relations and government.
Posted by: Arttie | August 23, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
I live in Delaware, we don’t like Bidden here except in the city of Wilmington. It is a wander that this mans vioce box still works, he never shuts up. All should look into how he became a U.S. Senator here in DE, he won the election because his wife died a few weeks before the election. He spun is so good that everybody felt sorry for him and voted him in. As much as we would like getting rid of him, sending him to the White House is not the answer.
Posted by: Buzzville | August 23, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
actually blacks are not subhuman, they are human, no better or no worse than a white person. they dont deserve any worse or better treatment either. but to you, everyone is a victim in life.
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | August 23, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
sandman
Hopefully you’re wrong. While everyone knows that there are some people who will not vote for Obama because of racism, I suspect that the majority of Americans do not feel this way and are enthusiastic about Senator Obama and are not hung up on his race. I think that this country is waiting to show everyone that they are intoned to the issues and the fact that after 8 years of garbage we do not want another idiot in the Whitehouse! I’m excited and can’t wait for the convention!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
Biden was clearly the more experienced of the bunch in the Democratic primaries. I wasn’t a Biden supporter but I have alot of respect for him. The guy is ego personified though. I fail to see where Biden represents change or new politics though. I’m over 50 and this guy has been part of the political machine as long as I can remember. He supported the war in Iraq and an increased troop presence in Iraq along with McCain. In fact while the GOP is digging up the negative stuff Biden has said about Obama I’m sure they’ll dig up the quote where Biden talks about McCain being a great friend and how he would be honored to run with him or against him. Biden already had a run as VP and that obviously didn’t turn out. I look at the picture of Obama and Biden together and all I think is how it should be the Biden/Obama ticket.
I think Biden can overshadow Obama and I think points out Obama’s inexperience more then adds credibility to the ticket. Biden is old politics, not a change candidate, supported the invasion of Iraq, good friends with McCain- geez, if Obama wanted that he shouldv’e picked Hillary because at least she comes with almost 20 million voters. Not to mention that Clinton wasn’t supposedly even given a courtesy vetting which will go over well with her supporters who are straddling the fence. If this is his first Presidential decision I’m not impressed.
Posted by: alpaig52 | August 23, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
why do libs think they can tell the weather to be rainy or sunny? i guess they haven’t found christ so they believe themselves as god.
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | August 23, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
confirmed Biden the two faced liar was picked.. check DRUDGE
Posted by: Ron Paul 2008 | August 23, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Obama picked Biden. This is proof, that Obama needs help in foreign relations.
Posted by: 90210 | August 23, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
CNN confirms Sen. Barack Obama has chosen Delaware Sen. Joe Biden to be his vice-presidential running mate.
Posted by: what about Brain | August 23, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Its OFFICIAL:
Joe Biden is Obama’s VP choice!
Hillary supporters will take over the convention this year and the Democratic party will be torn to shreds. Obama just lost the election. Welcome, President John McCain!
Posted by: david from texas | August 23, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
It’s on the news, Biden is the VP for Loserbama. He will be Obama’s teacher for foreign relations and government.
Posted by: Arttie |
You need to keep up. Every foreign policy issue that Obama has held has been implemented by the Bush administration! McCain’s foreign policy credentials are a shame. Look it up!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
leelee07
there has never been a coup in US history there has always been peacefull transfer of power but if they Obamaites want to trade a sure presidency for a posible one and a few debilitating jokes aimed at the heart of the democratic party, they sealed their own fate!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
I, who am better than any american, give my life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness to communism. Just because biden won.
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Biden is the VP pick, McCain is elected president.
Posted by: martha | August 23, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
He Slick, comin’ back at ya:
I can think of many words to describe John McCain, but honesty is not one of them.
Posted by: allen_osuno3 | August 23, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
david from texas
Hillary supporters couldn’t get 200 people at a recent rally! PUMA has raised 50,000 dollars to date! Those supporters will be shouted down and shown the door! Get real!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
It’s Official….the DNC has managed to Loose the WhiteHouse Again!!! Obama/Biden = Dumb/Dumber…I’m DEFINATELY VOTEING MCCAIN!!!!!
Posted by: NoObama | August 23, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
the slap heard round the world
Posted by: noelle | August 23, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Roxanne
Iwasnt going to go there but you need might need a little help to look up your own facts… most people that give unsolicited advice shouldnt be givign it in the first place because they dont know what they speak of…I talked to some Obama peeople who are friends of mine yesterday who had no idea who ayers is…Obama isnt running for President of a fantasy world!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
AP has confirmed it’s Biden.
Posted by: Nobel | August 23, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Patriotic texan,
the correct term would be sand niggers. hes got a lil arabic in him too.
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
As long as we do not accept responsibility for putting an administration in power that caused so many deaths in a preemptive war based on lies there no redemption for our country. Let us face it like grown ups and remove all those who voted for this war from office. Let us make sure that our country is never again put in situation where the ideals on which it was founded are compromised by greedy men and women.
Posted by: worldsam | August 23, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
I, who am better than any american, give my life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness to communism. Just because biden won.
Posted by: roxanne
This bullshit was not posted by me. It’s clear that the loser who did post this doesn’t have the balls to post his or her name! Twinkie!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Just how many gotchas do you think the McCain camp has on Biden? For over thirty years I’ve seen this guy careless and less about Delaware and more about keeping is job.
Bye, bye, Obama.
Posted by: stan | August 23, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Biden was picked as VP because he assured Obama, the Russians didn’t invade Georgia, the state, but a country along the border of Russia. Obama, then assured the residents of Alabama, that they were safe.
Posted by: Thore | August 23, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
If Barack Hussein Osama wins it’s open season on niggers in Texas! We killed one Dem President here and we can do it again! Best stay out of Dealey Plaza, Barry!
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | Aug 23, 2008 1:02:06 AM
You’re sick! Don’t discredit Texas like that. We don’t believe as you do. You’re an embarrassement to the state of Texas!
Posted by: david from texas | August 23, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
I am black and am (like most Americans) getting tired of this racist crap that is constantly spewing from Obama’s Supporters.
We could ALL get over racism if they didn’t bring it up in d*mn near every post they write.
People are not voting for Obama because he is DUMB as a rock, not because he is black/white – or whatever the h*!! he is, so stop using racism as an excuse to cover up all of his flaws – which are many.
PUMA!
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 23, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Obots will have to lay off the agism now as Biden is 65.
Biden is friends with McCain but Bummer campaign expect him to protect the chosen one and do his fighting for him.
When is B. Hussein going to get his nuts back from Jessie?
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
I’m appauled at the language women use this day. Parents didn’t have enough money to send you to boarding school, roxanne?
Posted by: gilbert | August 23, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
This is a fascinating string of comments. I wonder why all the right-wing, whack-job, pro-mcCayne contributors have such a problem with the English language, logic, decency and self-esteem. I feel sorry for you. Please get help. Barack would want it too.
Posted by: mctommy | August 23, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
An excellent choice. Biden is someone who is incredibly knowledgeable in foreign policy and has one crucial characteristic that most politicians don’t – he is adept at being able to disagree with a colleague and still treat the person, in words and tone of voice, with respect. This will be an invaluable addition to the Obama administration both on the Hill and with foreign leaders. Those who dismiss this ability and talent don’t understand the art of negotiation and doplomacy.
Posted by: steve | August 23, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
PatrioticTexan, What city do you live in, Jasper? What is your IQ and how many teeth do you have? Shouldn’t you be at a KKK meeting right now?
Posted by: S Adams | August 23, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
I totally agree with you leelee
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | August 23, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
Debra, if you vote McCain you’re voting for the destruction of the USA. McCain has said he favors a restoration of the draft and has also said he would work outside the UN. This guy is VERY dangerous, he is terribly dishonest, mean, immoral and womanizing, corrupt…He is not the mild mannered Maverick you think he is. You and those like you who support McCain are making a huge mistake that could finish the bankrupting and destruction of our country. I don’t think you really know John McCain because if you did I bet anything you wouldn’t vote for him. He is NOTHING like Joe Biden (McCain isn’t). Joe Biden is a straight shooter and an honest man. John McCain is the opposite. I really hate ex Hillary people saying they’ll vote for a third term of George W. Bush, only worse. I can’t believe you can look at our national situation around you and want another corrupt Republican after all the harm they’ve done to this country. It is not something I understand why any sane person would do. You’ll be sorry if you vote for McCain and he gets in. Mark my words.
Posted by: allen_osuno3 | August 23, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
McCain best bet for veep,
Condoleeza Rice, or Carly Fiorina, intelligent,resilient, resourceful woman, who could change America for the better.
Get over it guys, with Bill “pardon me ma’am did I just accidentally fall inside you” Clinton as a bench-mark, they can’t truck things up any worse than the white bread, soda cracker, honky boys already have.
Posted by: dave rappoport | August 23, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Nobama
I think Pelosi engineered this because she is #3 and pull some strings if you know what I mean… you people can say Im a clset republican but I was a part of the clinton movement that brought the democrats back in after Dukkais humiliated us in 88 … you ultra left wing nuts want to repeat history… the Iraq issue et all is dead….PERIOD…furthermore you all probably supported Moveon.org in denying Lieberman his nomination for his senate seat so therefore I will enjoy it when he becomes VP of the US … he wanted to be a Democrat but the odd looking guy head of DailyKos, dictated that he be taken out what a farce!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Some of my comments might have offended some. Some came from my fingers, some from roxanne. But every ounce of true racism only comes from roxannes fingertips as she is trying to make me look like a racist southerner. When in fact she is a racist communist.
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | August 23, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
Patriotic texan,
the correct term would be sand niggers. hes got a lil arabic in him too.
Posted by: roxanne
Nice try saltine but as an black female I would never use that word! You’re a real btch hiding behind a female’s name! You’re all just pissed because this seals Mr. McGoo’s coffin shut!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
Well, i can see why you see yourself as a victim. Slavery hasnt been around in over 100 years, get over it. my ancestors were slaves to the dutch when they first came over. do i want freebies and gimmes and payback fo what they did to my family? no, i got over it.
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | August 23, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
PatrioticTexan
Read all of my posts you twit! I have never used that word. Either you or some other queen has used my name to try and push back but I have to tell you that it’s flattering! I’ve clearly hit a nerve with many of you McCain and Hillary supporters and that’s exactly what I was going for! Suck It! Suck It Hard!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Thank God It’s not Hillary. Obama and his bitter Mrs. are not even fit to shine Hillary’s shoes.
Hillary doesn’t need to be associated with Obama’s corrupt associates; Farrakahn, Rev God Dm america Wright, Ayers, etc.
NO Obama
Posted by: Mrs. Phoenix | August 23, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
it doesn’t matter if your were white or black, roxanne. nobody feels sorry for you
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | August 23, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
McCain should pick Hillary
McCain/Clinton 08′!!!!
That would crush Obama Bin Ladin!!
Posted by: lawofattraction | August 23, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
it’s okay roxanne, washington dc will be the new mecca for islamist on their march when BHO comes into office.
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | August 23, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
@PatrioticTexan – Thanks!
PUMA!
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 23, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Well said LeeLee. His skin color is not the issue with so many of us. I believe America is ready for a black Prez, just not this empty suit.
Don’t trust him, don’t care for him. When is someone going to delve more into this guys past? CNN couldn’t even get anyone from his college days to speak on his behalf on their bio piece they did the other night. Who are his friends, since his mom and dad are dead and granny is off limits and only the half sister in Hawaii is allowed to talk…while 8 half siblings from the drinker dad are in Kenya…let’s learn more about this guys family.
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
the best interests of my family comes before all else, and I am thus obligated to vote for the one candidate I know will be the best President: Senator Hillary Clinton
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Is it really true? There are actually people who are STILL supporting a baby killing, anti-american, whose only experience is 20 years in a black lib church? Ooooops, sorry, I almost forgot about his tenure as a community organizer,,,, my bad.
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
PatrioticTexan
See, the fact that you agree with this leelee idiot which is something you haven’t seen from me says it all! Your parents were clearly brother and sister. Another toothless banjo player!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
I would have no problem if Condo. Rice was running. She’s black and female. But she doesn’t have a non-negotiable commitment to africa, islam, and communism
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | August 23, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
allen
thats it you dont want Mccain because of some fictious draft… nobody cares that you want to keep your kids from going to war or whatever you reason its a non issue to destroy the democratic party over you people have really screwed up!after that you deserve what you will get!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
i have yet to hear a single obama lemming articulate a specific policy plan or proposal that obama will bring to “change” washington or the status quo….
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
My question is this: Biden and John McCain are good friends; Biden supported the Iraq war with McCain; Biden is always opening mouth and inserting foot; so, I have to ask…is Biden a Democrat or a Republican? Does he support Obama or McCain? Many of Bidens defense of the issues are the same as McCain’s. Biden has great foregn affairs experience, but nothing on the econmomy. What in the heck was Obama thinking? Without Hillary, Obama will lose. I think you can already see that from these posts. Even Obama supporters are disappointed and are planning to vote for McCain. You know this will push the Independents to McCain. Guess Obama didn’t want the Presidency after all!
Posted by: Will | August 23, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
One of Obama’s keynote speakers is a Muslim Extremist….serioulsly and I foget her name, but she was wearing a scarf on her head. Hope she does at the Convention.
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
obama joined and abandoned his own church, purely for his political aspirations……biden better hope obama doesn’t have a similar change of heart before November….
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
badger1
Do you have a uterus? Because if you don’t I can’t see how this affects you. Maybe a penile implant or Viagra but not abortion!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Roxanne,
It is amazing that you are still full of anger. I refuse to live in a country that supports laziness, ineptability, and stupidity by living a socialist/communist standard
Posted by: PatrioticTexan | August 23, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Chris
Absoutely! Biden is a contradiction in terms for the Obama camp because he is epitome of status quo in washington! THe did that just for points with a few people rather than real points in tracking polls because he will lose now!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
For the First Time in My Adult Life, I Am Voteing Republican. The JackAss for the DNC and Obama/Biden is Very Fitting.
Posted by: Voteing McCain | August 23, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
Hillary was a much stronger candidate then biden….otherwise, they represent the same qualities that obama’s lemmings did not want on the ticket (of course, only as they applied to Hillary)…
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
WriteHillaryIn.com
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
Sen. Obama’s veep decision has let me one of my own. I have been a devoted democrate since my first vote for John Kennedy. I will admit that there have been elections that I chose not to vote because neither candidate addressed the issues that I cared so about. I will now have to decide if I should elect not to vote, or vote for Sen. McCain so that a totaly inept, inexperienced, egocentric out of the White House.
Posted by: Beverly | August 23, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
Overall, the whole thing is pretty anti-climactic.
All the hype, all the coverage, all the press…..aaaaaand yeah, the world keeps spinning
Posted by: BlueBalls | August 23, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
One of Obama’s keynote speakers is a Muslim Extremist….serioulsly and I foget her name, but she was wearing a scarf on her head. Hope she does at the Convention.
Posted by: Debra
Welcome back debra! It’s good to see that you’re back on message. It’s a stupid one but then, that’s what we’ve come to expect from you!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
Debra – I heard Mike Huckabee say on a news program yesterday that no one will vote for Obama once they find out about his past.
I think Obama’s free ride is just about over – the Republicans are going to do what Hillary couldn’t. They are going to air all of Obama’s dirty laundry, and I, for one, can’t wait.
PUMA! Over 9 million voters – coming to the POLLS with you.
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 23, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
i wonder how much money it cost obama’s lemmings to wait for that “supporter-first” text that is now irrelevant?
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
There are a lot of ‘personally offended’ dorks on these boards. I’m voting for the ticket, not my lovers quarrel feelings. Some of you need therapy, seriously. If it was Hillary or Obama or Steve Jobs or a water cooler on the ticket…I am NOT voting for a Republican! Not after 8 years of what they gave us and yes I have a memory that long! Amazing! They have a track record that is abysmal! ABSOLUTELY ABYSMAL! And the same old dirty politics of McCain turned me completely off to him a month ago. Those so called attack ads seemed desperate, was desperate, and is forcing the election down to the gutter level of Republicans, sorry some of you fell for it. You’re a cheesehead if celebrity means anything to you after Ronald Reagan (actor) Jesse Ventura (WWF) and Arnold Swarznegger (foreign-born actor), you love those guys so what the frack do you care about “celebrity”? You’re full of crap! And McCain is clearly the elitist here. Get real! Obama’s sole claim to fame was working hard and rising up through the ranks of politics, not rising up through the ranks of acting school or getting caught by the enemy 40 years ago! Either Obama or Hillary are the most inspiring intelligent candidates that the party has had since Bill Clinton, so why fall to such cheeseball tactics that Republican political scientists use to manipulate you and divide you instead of having a little faith and a little hope here? And it really is as simple as that for me. I’m voting for change of party in the White House, end of story. And I don’t care if Chicken Little McCain crys crocodile tears about his POW record, we’ve heard enough! At least he wasn’t killed! He’s alive! For 4000 of our guys and young girls who were in Iraq, it isn’t McCain who’s lying in the ground right now. From the sound of McCain’s constant usage of his POW stories for every little thing, you start to wonder if it wasn’t the best thing that ever happened to him!
Posted by: Scotti | August 23, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
the passion obama’s lemmings show against his detractors would probably be better served for the benefit of obama!
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
I will now have to decide if I should elect not to vote, or vote for Sen. McCain so that a totaly inept, inexperienced, egocentric out of the White House.
Posted by: Beverly | Aug 23
As opposed to an idiot who will continue to run this country into the ground? Tough choice…for you maybe!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
To those who think Hillary in 2012, she’s already 24 Mil in debt. You think she can crawl out from underneath all that and want to do it all over again? It’s not gonna happen! Obama made the right choice tonight, one that will win his election in November. Not many democrats here on this board as they don’t want to listen to all these Republican tantrums. I’m gonna join ‘em with a cold beer. CHEERS!
Posted by: Richard | August 23, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Hey everyone!
Just wanted to thank you for being suckers and ponying up some cash for us!
Oh, and now that everyone submitted their email addresses to register and get the text, we will be sure to hound you for donations!!
Posted by: CellPhoneCompany | August 23, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
It’s BIDEN and the DEMs find yet another way to LOOSE
Posted by: carljr | August 23, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
“but if they Obamaites want to trade a sure presidency for a posible one and a few debilitating jokes aimed at the heart of the democratic party, they sealed their own fate!’
staniam – You are SO right!
PUMA!
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 23, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
patriotic Texan
I never thought I would swing so far right but people like Roxanne need to be stopped from imposing an Obama agenda that half or just more than half the country doesnt want and trying to do it without anyone that can actually get it done… just amazing!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Seriously, sending out a couple million text messages…how much of the fund raising goes to that? You know AT&T aren’t doing it for free….
Posted by: CellPhoneCompany | August 23, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
Senator Clinton is the only candidate capable of being the best President that our children, our troops and our country needs right now
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
Let’s just hope Biden doesn’t have a John Edwards love baby story he didn’t confess to BO campaign about.
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
So, let me get this right. Obama has been saying for days that he would text his supporters first to tell them who the VP pick was. Now, he broke the news to the major News media without even texting his supporters? You’ve got to be kidding me. Obama just outright lied! He made America think that he was going to share the news with his supporters first via email, right? Obama is definitely a liar! He will lose in November for sure!
Posted by: Will | August 23, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
Yes, Senator Clinton is JUST the person our troops need…
You have no idea how many troops would resign commissions/terminate contracts to avoid that one. No idea.
Posted by: Soldiersupportithinknot | August 23, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
Leelee07
its not the first time I was quoted on this thread! I was outspoken in the primaries and noboyd listened but I know Im right because Ive been there done that… Donna Brazile who started it all is the absolute devil!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
All the texts is Obama’s data base to send out reminders to vote and other obnoxious messages.
HILLARY SUPPORTERS DO NOT WRITE HER NAME IN AND ALLOW BO TO INCH CLOSER. A no vote or write in is a BO victory. Must vote McCain. Hillary 2012
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
soldiers
you dont know how many soldiers wont be permitted to resign commissions but be drafted outright by both Obama and Mccain its just too bad Im beyond draft age but Im not sorry!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
Obama supporters are pretty shallow folks. Biden represents everything Obama was running against.
At least the young and naive who communicate by text message, like my great grandpa used to do, have been well trained into thinking every Republican is the McSame.
Petty, small, ignorant people they are.
Posted by: Nobel | August 23, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
richard….sounds like the kool-aid will be flowing tonight to celebrate the continuation of the obama cult!
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Will…Obama’s promise to text everyone and get their numbers is a way to data bank for future messages and houndings about contributing and voting.
Smart move by BO campaign. They are all over the youth vote and that WILL BE THE ONLY WAY HE WINS THIS. It will be a generational election (even tho Biden is 65, VOTERS ALWAYS VOTE FOR TOP OF THE TICKET).
VOTE McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
ABC would be well-advised to close this string down. The Rushit/BillyO’s have come out from under their moldy bogs tonight to dispense their psychotic logic and dissociative hate. Barack and I pity them, and we make this suggestion for their benefit and in hopes that a good night sleep will restore their seratonin balance and lost decency. (BTW, some of these people really shouldn’t have Internet access.)
Posted by: mctommy | August 23, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
Speaking of Donna Brazille,,, Didnt she claim that she would quit her party if the DNC/super delegates over rode the will of the people? She said that when, Obama was leading popular vote, but Clinton had alot more super delegates. At the end of the primaries it was the other way around. Get your fat stanky azzzz down the road Donna. Racist b!!tch
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
Neither McCain or Obama have said anything about reinstating the draft…thats just another scare tactic thrown on the table that people pick up and run with.
We are one of the few countries with a professional military, made up of people who volunteer. But certainly, if Hillary were to be sworn in as the CINC, there are a ton of those that would rather hang up the uniform and say “Not so much.”
Posted by: Soldiersupportithinknot | August 23, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
Haters Step Off I think your theory is too simplistic. That’s not an insult I just think it’s more complex then race. There clearly are those who will not vote for a person of color nor a woman. We’ve seen that with both the Obama and the Clinton races. There was some research done pre-Obama where they looked at races where there were black candidates on the ticket and they found some difference between political affiliation and race. When the candidate was a black liberal what they found was that they saw a larger voter turn-out amongst blacks but a larger turn-out also amongst whites which countered that effect. When it was a conservative black there was no significant difference in turn out between either. Blacks didn’t turn out to elect a conservative black nor did whites turn out to ensure they weren’t elected. Powell and Obama are a good example. Anyone who has been around for sometime knows that at one point, and today for many, Powell was one of the most trusted Americans in this Country. There is no doubt for many that had he ran for President that he very well could have won and at the least certainly been the first black nominee of what most likely wouldv’e been the Republican party. I know many whites older then 50 who would not have hesitated to cast a vote for Powell in the slightest. Not only is/was Powell a conservative/moderate (unlike Obama who has been portrayed as left of Kennedy) ,
he was also highly experienced and well known to most. To negate the impact of experience/inexperience or being a known
vs. an unknown is just remiss. I don’t know how old you are but many things have changed over the decades other then just attitudes about race. The older generation grew up believing you start from the bottom and work your way up, that you work hard and that will be rewarded (even though in reality they often didn’t see that pan out for themselves) and that the most experienced and hardest working should be the one to be promoted. This younger generation has seen something very different in that we’ve seen young men/women in their 20′s who haven’t even finished college become incredibly successful and rich by thinking outside the box, taking a risk and all while working outside the traditional workplace (while working just as hard though within their own framework). One example would be Mark Zuckerberg who founded Facebook while still a student in college and of course Bill Gates.
So there is a generational divide in many degrees on the issue of experience vs. limited experience. You also mention the merit of Obama’s positions and I would say if one doesn’t agree with Obama’s positions that does not make them a racist or in anyway implies the issue is about race. Obama himself has said that the Democrats do not have a monopoly on good ideas, so one can agree to disagree on issues such as energy, climate change, national security and the economy without race being at the root of that disagreement. Your candidate strongly advocates a bi-partisan and recognizes the merit of both liberal and conservative thought on all the issues you cited. So to suggest that just because one supports drilling and nuclear power, and as such they opt to not vote Obama, that the bottom line though was about race not the issues is just ridiculous and naive and simplistic.
Posted by: alpaig52 | August 23, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
AMERICANS ALWAYS VOTE FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE….thank God, I like Biden and detest the arrogant one.
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
If Barack Obama picks Al Gore for VP, would that be an algorical obimination?
Posted by: Oonogil | August 23, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
All of you who are trashing Biden would be trashing Tim Kaine or Evan Bayh for their lack of experience if Obama had chosen him. Grow up! Obama could have picked Charles Manson and he’d still whip that crazy old man! It’s interesting that none of you have mentioned the fact that Bush has now instituted a TIMETABLE for troop withdrawal from Iraq. They also quietly sent troops into Afghanistan on Wednesday. These are policies that Obama has been calling for for months. I noticed that none of you McCain supporters have mentioned this. I suppose now you’ll want to talk about the surge but remember…the surge wouldn’t have even been necessary if we had never invaded Iraq! Also, remember that that idiot McCain actually said about Georgia, that “In the 21st century, nations don’t invade other nations…forgetting that this is exactly what he voted for and what the United States did by invading Iraq! Idiots!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
To Whom It May Concern:
I’m extremely upset. Every time Mr. Obama speaks the statements just become a lie. Mr. Obama committed to telling his “online text message members” first. However, all the outlets are reporting it first as “confirmed” meaning they’ve spoken with someone in the Obama campaign. As an initial member of Hillary Clinton’s California campaign, and now this I’m extremely upset. If you can’t control things like this now, imagine how it would be during an Obama presidency.
This whole text message thing was just to get potential donors to his website.
I’m a gay American, and was a Democrat, but Mr. Obama has lost my vote and I’m voting for John McCain.
Posted by: Andrew | August 23, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
staniam – Donna Brazile is as two-faced as they come! I can’t wait to see her face along with Dean’s and Pelosi’s when Obama loses this election!
PUMA!
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 23, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
mctommy – whats wrong bro? Got a problem with people who are opposed to a baby killing, communist becoming our next president? That’s too bad, sorry about your dilema.
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
Mr. Obama’s campaign for change has definetly struck a chord with voter. I’m now changing my vote from Democrat to Independent. Maybe the Democrats will get it right the next time around.
Hillary in 2012!
Posted by: Lisa in Oklahoma | August 23, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
Dear leelee07, A DISCOURSE ON RACE…
I appreciate your comment, a true discourse on race begins by looking at Whoopie’s comments on the View. I quote
“I’m sorry Hasselbeck you and I are not equal” Now here is Whoopie Goldberg on the same show as an equal Co-host, making as much if not more money than Hasselbeck.
Until blacks drop “Black Liberation Theology” and dump the “Slave mentality” we are going to have racial tension. Could you imagine what would have happened in Denver if some “white trash, trailer park idiot broke out in the “White National Anthem” Black America, Whoopie Goldberg, you are equal with Hasselbeck and every person in America.
(Except for Al “Tawana Brawley” Sharpton! If he were white, He’d definitely be white trailer park trash).
Obama, race is not the issue for America
it’s an inexperienced geopolitical moron
who’s decision making is absolutely suspect!
300 advisors for an overseas trip, give me a break.
I’m ready for a black president, not a schmuck like Ca’racked Obama!
Posted by: dave rappoport | August 23, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
After the Libs, having put down McCain on his academic placement at the Naval academy, it so ironic that Obama picked Biden who recieved an F for plagerizing a paper at Syracuse Law, recieved all C’s & D’s (Oh he got an A in phys Ed) and an F on ROTC. He then lied and said he graduated at the “top of his class” (he actaully graduated 76 out of 85). He also said he attended on a full scholarship and with 3 degrees when actually he only recieved one B.A. and no scholarship.
We just thought Obama was a racist, inexperienced, arrogant, posturing, radical liberal, but now we can add clueless idiot to that list.
Posted by: S Adams | August 23, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
Biden – Obamas CHANGE…. Words…Just Words!
Posted by: Voteing McCain | August 23, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
Joe Biden killed his first wife and daughter in 1972 while he was driving drunk.
He recently suffered an aneurysm in 1988 and nearly died.
Posted by: Ted Kennedy Part 2 | August 23, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
Will
there is no end to the negative advertisng that will be donr against Obama/Biden they knew this, they didnt even offer the VP to someone who came 200 votes short of the nomination but Kerry the windsurfing giant of a man picked Edwards to which we in NC knew was a fraud!
Posted by: Staniam | August 23, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
here is a link letting you know, by state, how your write-in vote for Senator Clinton will be counted, if at all: http://writehillaryin.com/Write_In_Facts_by_State.html
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
Joe Biden killed his first wife and daughter in 1972 while he was driving drunk.
He recently suffered an aneurysm in 1988 and nearly died.
Posted by: Ted Kennedy Part 2 | August 23, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
AMERICANS ALWAYS VOTE FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE….thank God, I like Biden and detest the arrogant one.
Posted by: Debra
Is that because like the star quarterback of the high school football team, he knows he’s going to score with the prom queen on prom night? We’re flattered!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
Me too, Andrew. I agree!
McCain 08!
Posted by: Will | August 23, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
Joe Biden killed his first wife and daughter in 1972 while he was driving drunk.
He recently suffered an aneurysm in 1988 and nearly died.
Posted by: Ted Kennedy Part 2
Your parents must be so proud of you!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Lisa
the DNC aka Obama campaign sends me 2 letters a day I will not give one red cent to them… its not deserved!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
i have a clear conscience and sleep well every night because i voted for Senator Clinton in our primary and will vote for her on November 4th, as she is the only candidate capable of being the best President that our country needs right now
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
you all wait and see, obama’s face will be the only one on Mount Rushmore in no time!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
roxanne…unless you have walked in my shoes, you will please allow my inner debate. I certainly respect your opinions and ask that you please respect mine.
Posted by: Beverly | August 23, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Lisa in Oklahoma
Why don’t you vote for Bin Laden or Hitler? It will have as much of an affect!
I’m going to go now because all of you Mccain and Hillary supporters have lost your bearings! Good Night Losers!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
nbc just announced on their site that biden has been tapped as obama’s VP
Posted by: rocko273 | August 23, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
All we have gotten from Obama, from the onset, is a bunch of feel good, sunshine happiness that is utterly vague and pointless.
Change is coming…CHANGE IS COMING…well give me some specs, bro, because so far its a bunch of NOTHING
Posted by: TiredofBloviating | August 23, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Roxanne
your trying to justify Biden any way you can but thetruth is Obama lied to you obamanuts because he said he was going to tell you first he didnt….a bunch of soft patsies that dont know too much is what you are!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
you all should be groveling and praising me for i have personally given you Obama to lead you to eternal happiness!
Posted by: jesus christ | August 23, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
just like obama, roxanne cannot take the heat when justifiable arguments are sent her way…
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
No VP choice can save the ARROGANT ONE. I am dumbfounded that there are actually any people who would still support this condescending creeep. If he just had another couple of years as a community organizer in Chicago, I might have considered voting for him. Darn,,,, so close :(
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
roxanne…unless you have walked in my shoes, you will please allow my inner debate. I certainly respect your opinions and ask that you please respect mine.
Posted by: Beverly
Hold on Beverly! Your inner debates implies that it’s just that…inner but you’re posting them here in gen pop! Again, Good night losers!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
Pass me the Kool-Aide, Jesus!!
Posted by: Judas | August 23, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
I will be so happy to watch the expressions on Donna Brazille and Roland Martins faces when they have to give an analysis of why Obama Bin Lyin lost the election. I can’t wait to see them and hear them have to refer to McCain as President John McCain. Obama added to his loss of the election tonite and I am so glad. Obama did not need to be in the White House. As a gay American, I can tell you that many, many gays will vote for John McCain now. Biden is a loser, as is Obama!
Posted by: Will | August 23, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
Scotti …shhhh , youre being way to intelligent for this “discussion”.
more name calling and less thought!
(my $ .02 worth is : mccain is too old and too rich to vote for under any circumstances…hillary wouldve been the better nominee for most americans but anyone/anything is better than a republican ….even republican-lite obama. he needs to pick hillary to heal the party and assure victory though ,anything else is arrogant and plain old stupid)
Posted by: bah | August 23, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Roxanne
please go you were the one being vulgar when I first logged in tonight… you have no sense of reality yourself! go and prepare to lose!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
@ dave rappoport – Thank you, you said it better than I ever could!
PUMA!
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 23, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
I’m no Obama fan, but I wouldn’t have my back to Hillary in an instant with her as VP…to tempting for her.
Posted by: Wouldn'twannabetakingtheoath | August 23, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
just like obama, roxanne cannot take the heat when justifiable arguments are sent her way…
Posted by: chris
What justifiable arguments? I’m trying to get off but you folks are making it difficult! Could you answer my post below? It’s actually from me! I’ll wait!
All of you who are trashing Biden would be trashing Tim Kaine or Evan Bayh for their lack of experience if Obama had chosen him. Grow up! Obama could have picked Charles Manson and he’d still whip that crazy old man! It’s interesting that none of you have mentioned the fact that Bush has now instituted a TIMETABLE for troop withdrawal from Iraq. They also quietly sent troops into Afghanistan on Wednesday. These are policies that Obama has been calling for for months. I noticed that none of you McCain supporters have mentioned this. I suppose now you’ll want to talk about the surge but remember…the surge wouldn’t have even been necessary if we had never invaded Iraq! Also, remember that that idiot McCain actually said about Georgia, that “In the 21st century, nations don’t invade other nations…forgetting that this is exactly what he voted for and what the United States did by invading Iraq! Idiots!
Posted by: roxanne |
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
will, you can add Chris mathews, Keith Olberman, and Andrea Mitchell to that list of Obama nuthuggers.
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am
candidate/party before country = dubya and obama supporters
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
It’s 3AM and the phone just rang at the Whitehouse! Thank God I know it will be President John McCain answering and making the decisions!
Posted by: Voteing McCain | August 23, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
badger1
Im glad I have some allies on here tonight I do not feel guilty one bit for opposing a charlottan from our party! There never was a chance that Obam would get even a plurality of the vote in November..they just shot themselves in th foot we tried to help them!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
roxanne….i didn’t realize that giving the example of charles manson as vice president would make your argument that much more valid and compelling….
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
Thanks chris! Your silence speaks volumes. Now I can go!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
roxanne – Please go already. It’s obvious that you not ALOT of rest.
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
So Obama has made his pick…
…what will John do? Who will he pick? He benefits from being able to react now, and counter Obama’s pick…
Posted by: Whathappensnext | August 23, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Hi badger
1. Barack is opposed to baby killng. He’s clearly pro-choice. Are you?
2. He’s a Christian and actually believes that you can be a Christian and have an intellect at the same time. Atlantic Monthly had a great article on point. Do you read? You should.
3. I don’t have a “dilema.” You should consider taking a spelling class and turn off your NASCAR network. Voters should be literate, don’t you thynk?
mctommy – whats wrong bro? Got a problem with people who are opposed to a baby killing, communist becoming our next president? That’s too bad, sorry about your dilema.
Posted by: mctommy | August 23, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Roxanne
in true Obamacamn fashion you are acusing other people of what you yourself are… good luck in political purgatory… go away!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Hillary’s supporters should vote for McCain.
Should them? Is he the candidate that is going to represent what you believe?
Are you willing to risk 4 more years of Republican party for a hope that Hillary will be elected in 2012?
Are you going to jeopardize US economy because you are too arrogant?
Ok, let McCain win. He is your candidate to make America the worst so you can wait for your lovely Hillary.
Posted by: Pete | August 23, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
roxanne….i didn’t realize that giving the example of charles manson as vice president would make your argument that much more valid and compelling….
Posted by: chris
That’s it? Noting on Georgia? Iraq troop withdrawal? Afghanistan? To quote Edward R. Murrow “Good Night and Good Luck?”.
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
why did obama join and abandon a church for purely political reasons? why did he subject his own children to such divisive and negative rants from his own pastor, which he denied attending, then later had to recant such a denial? why did he neglect his own constituents when they suffered in sub-standard housing owned by his friend/donor? why did he over-exaggerate the extremist nature of his schoolmates in his books to make himself look more tolerant and progressive? why does he parse words and use semantics to deny any donations from drug companies and lobbyists when their ceo’s, spouses and members donate and work on his campaign? why does he now believe in off-shore drilling when he was against it? why did he vote for FISA? why did he think it was ok to give a solid 16 month timetable for withdrawal, only to change his mind when actually talking to petraeus? why did he finally visit our allies, when he’s been on a foreign affairs committee for the last 3 years? why has he voted present so often on bills in illinois? why is he so hypocritical and why are you so enamored with a charmer with little substance?
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
McTommy…you might want to hold onto that dictionary of yours and study it.
Posted by: umm | August 23, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
staniam – You’re not alone. Most know that, Obama is an obvious SHAM.
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
roxanne – Please go already. It’s obvious that you not ALOT of rest.
Posted by: badger1
You’re right badger1. I not a lot of rest! See you in english class!
Posted by: roxanne | August 23, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
Dear Soldiersupportithinknot,
Your are absolutely correct! When Jimmy Carter was elected, I terminated my eight year military career. How bad did Jimmy Carter Decimate the military?
When we invaded Granada to rescue American hostages, we had to use a credit card, make a collect call to Camp Lejeune, from a land line for arty support to repel mechanized Cuban troops. Absolutely true story.
With Russia playing the “Drunken Bear”
If Obama got in and I was still active, the wind speed of me exiting the service, would suck half of my last duty station with me.
Obama, when are you going to return the campaign contribution from “Al Jeezera T.V.”!!!The most radical terrorist television network in the world!
Obama/Biden 08 PLEEASE.
I’LL TAKE MY CHANCES WITH
MUGABE/PUTIN TICKET FIRST
Posted by: dave rappoport | August 23, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
What is scarier still…is images of Mrs. Obama as the First Lady….dear GOD
Posted by: FirstLady | August 23, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
@Roxanne: “Joe Biden killed his first wife and daughter in 1972 while he was driving drunk.
He recently suffered an aneurysm in 1988 and nearly died.”
Are you a troll? You know he wasn’t even there. It was a drunk driving a tractor-trailer that killed them. And 1988 was 20 years ago, hardly “recent.”
Posted by: Ernie Mercer | August 23, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
the fact that he preaches unity and compassion but his supporters use racist epithets against Clinton supporters says something…..the fact that he expressly avoids the race card, only to strongly imply that Clinton disrespected MLK, when she merely acknowledged LBJ’s contribution to the Civil Rights Movement, says something….the fact that he cannot stand the heat when faced with adversity, faltering on the 2nd “super saturday” (tx, oh, etc.) after winning 11 IN A ROW, says something….the fact that he is VIRTUALLY TIED with mccain, despite his outrageous fundraising and unprecedented movement and volunteer efforts, says something…the fact that mccain would win the electoral college today, using the average of state by state polls, despite being largely tied to the worst president in the history of our country, says something….the fact that not one obama lemming thus far, has been able to articulate any of his specific plans or proposals for change, says a lot…..
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
“I’m gonna change Washington”…”We don’t need or want the old timers up there anymore” “They’ve been there all this time, talk talk talking and didn’t fix anything” So Obama, why did you pick the dem whose been up there longer than most of the others? Thought you “were the change man”…Proof you say anything, lie about anything, to stroke your ego and win an election. It’s obvious Biden will be the decision maker if Obama wins, and Obama will take all the credit. Experience wins out again. So much for “the change man”…just another politician playing the game…
Posted by: Kim in Texas | August 23, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
Roxanne
its easy for complete ignoramouses like you to criticize other people no matter how unfounded it is.
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
mctommy – a sure sign that you’ve been exposed with damaging, factual information pertaining to your messiah, is when you start pointing out spelling gaffes, and or playing the race card. Can you say, Pathetic?
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
obama is not ready, his supporters have displayed racist, sexist, ignorant, arrogant and naive behavior CONSISTENTLY (though certain not all of his supporters, just the lemming ones), he has had to defend his association with questionable characters on more then one occasion, and if you have to keep making the same defense of questionable characters who all have the one person in common, what does that say about the one person?
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
pete
you just put yourself in the same class as roxanne get out!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
roxanne – I have no doubt that you have misspelled a word or two whether out of ignorance, or by accident. So? Unfortunately for you, it’s your candidate who comes from the racist church, and who has cultivated friendships with people who are radical, and communist ideologues. Whose got the problem here?
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
i cannot afford to have someone learn on the job, to have someone who does not adhere to the spirit of what he claims are his principles, whose strongest selling point is apparently just a selling point (change), who is all flash and little substance, whose power of eloquence has turned so many into ruthless subjects who fly accusations of racism towards the slightest hint of disagreement, whose mistake in the details of hypothetical scenarios could cause a nuclear exchange between india and pakistan (in obama’s scenario of attacking bin laden in pakistan, he needed Senator Clinton to remind him to notify pakistan PRIOR to such a hypothetical incursion, lest pakistan mistake such an action for an act of aggression by their longtime nuclear nemesis)
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
“It is wonderful to be back in Oregon,” Obama said. “Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it.”
(UPDATE: At a later stop Obama was talking with reporters and expressed concern he’d also mis-stated the number of potential cyclone victims in Burma. He said, “I hope I said 100,000 people the first time instead of 100 million. I understand I said there were 57 states today. It’s a sign that my numeracy is getting a little, uh.” At that point, an aide cut him off and ushered journalists out. Before he could mis-speak again?)
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
Sen. Barack Obama came up with some novel reasons why the U.S. may be struggling in the war in Afghanistan.
“We don’t have enough capacity right now to deal with it — and it’s not just the troops,” Obama, D-Ill., told a crowd in Cape Girardeau, Missouri.
Obama posited — incorrectly — that Arabic translators deployed in Iraq are needed in Afghanistan — not realizing that Afghans dont speak Arabic.
“We only have a certain number of them and if they are all in Iraq, then its harder for us to use them in Afghanistan,” Obama said.
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
obama is not ready to take on putin
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
biden, maybe
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
I think that Pakistan would notice that an “attack” from the west couldn’t be from India…
…being that India is EAST of Pakistan.
Posted by: christakesgeography? | August 23, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
Barack Obama’s campaign scrambled Tuesday to set the record straight after the Democratic presidential candidate said on Memorial Day that his uncle helped liberate the Auschwitz death camp at the end of World War II.
There were two obvious problems with the tale: Auschwitz was liberated by the Soviet Army, and Obama’s American mother was an only child.
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
christakesgeography……because secret incursions to take out osama bin laden are always from the direction of the nation which the secret forces are citizens
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
Obama/Biden “The only Al Jeezera Candidates endorsed for U.S. prez and veep…
Give me a Mugabe/Vladimir Putin ticket!
At least with these two you really know what your getting???
Good Night all!
Posted by: dave rappoport | August 23, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
the ignorance of the obama camp keeps re-establishing its dominance in such a delusional world…..
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am
The DNC has been in collusion with Obama from the very begining… Obama knew he was going to pick Biden way baack in the primaries and never even considered Hillary but he didnt know that biden will make him look even sillier than he already is this is jus a nightmare!
Posted by: staniam | August 23, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am
Your point was that Hillary had to point out to Obama that a strike against Osama in Pakistan, if left unannounced, could look like a strike by India.
If SOF attacked UBL in the northeastern part of Pakistan…I really don’t think that the Pakistani government would logically think it was from India..
Posted by: christakesgeograhy | August 23, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
its like the obama lemmings keep attempting to argue against others (convenient that they rarely argue in favor of obama), but all that comes out is more inane and delusional circular arguments which consistently support the fact that they lack the logic and reason required to realize that their deity-candidate is pulling the wool over their eyes….
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
so is there a possible way that hillary could WIN at the convention? I mean, if there are not enough delegate votes for Obama?
Posted by: just wondering | August 23, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Joe Biden : “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Biden said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
Not good joe :D
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Biden – “He’s a clean, good looking African American, and articulate too”
Wow….there’s a quote guaranteed to pizz off the 14% of Obots (black population).
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
I can’t believe I just posted that without reading any prior posts and the guy before me got it right…thanks. Sorry I botched it. Either way this could upset the 98% of his black base (14% of voters).
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
christakesgeography…..if actionable intelligence had bin laden in kashmir, the long-disputed region between india and pakistan, and such action as directed by obama, as president, were initiated in the region, probably using low to mid range missiles to avoid American casualties from a personnel mission, it could likely not be considered an attack by india, but wouldn’t you want the President to notify pakistan any way, just to make sure even the remote chance of such a disastrous mistake is nil?
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
Debra – We must be soul mates. Will you marry me ? :D
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
Senator Clinton, on the other hand, has extensive contacts and instant credibility with the international community, from her record travels as First Lady, to her commitment to human and women’s rights, such as establishing the international coalition Vital Voices, which empowers women around the world to become involved with their local political spheres…..
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
and Bill’s influence cannot be discounted, much as his detractors would wrongly try….his administration and leadership provided America with unprecedented goodwill and cooperation with the world community, whose support and assistance is ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED to ultimately defeat terrorism…..something that only a President Hillary Clinton would be capable of beginning and possibly achieving….
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
The Pakistani government already gave the Coalition permission to strike UBL without calling ahead if need be.
One of the concerns is that senior ranking members of both the Pakistani military and government are hesitant to cooperate publically due to the reprecussions they would face with the local populace.
Therefore, there would definatly be a “hey, thanks for giving us a call” made in public, but at the same time they want him out as well. UBL is a de-stabilizing entity for Pakistan as well, and him no longer serving as a figurehead would be appreciated by all those in the area.
Hence, if there was a limited window of opportunity to take him out…lets say in Kashmir, which is not a hotbed of his supporters…the strike would be valid and condoned.
Posted by: christakesgeography? | August 23, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am
Just trying to get the word out Badger, and I’m sure to be too old for you. Let’s just vow to work our as-es off to keep Obama far from the White House.
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am
Let’s not go overboard with giving Hillary all of this credibility. She made some pretty boneheaded remarks during her campaign, some of which bordered on delusional. She had many opportunities to take advantage of Obama gaffes, but time after time, she or her husband would drop the ball. She is still a far better choice than the baby kiliing, communist who hails from Chicago, the home of black nationalism.
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am
mccain’s ideology and ignorance would prevent him from recognizing what is required to defeat terrorism and obama’s inexperience and apparent unwillingness to make the difficult choices would prevent him from doing what is required……only Senator Clinton is willing and able to take on such an overwhelming and decidedly essential goal….
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am
What exactly is McCain’s ideology, Chris?
Posted by: christakesgeography? | August 23, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
Chris Matthews yesterday referred to Obama as “the king”. I swear, I fell off my chair…I could see his hard on from where I was sitting. NEVER WATCH MSNBC.
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
I live 20 minutes from DE. The state is a disaster area! Everyone I know winces in agony when they have to do anything in that state.
Good choice obama. A guy who can’t effectively handle his state would make a great VP. If biden wasn’t liked enough to last longer in the run for the the Democratic nomination, why would he be a good pick for VP? All of his “experience” didn’t help then.
No matter. After busting my butt at work all day,teaching my low-income students with 90% less academic support and 50% reduction in supplies,I’ll take the time I would have used to vote for Hillary, for some extra R&R. I can’t vote.
With my two choices being either an obvious woman hater who values a clump of non-self-sustaining cells more than the living, breathing woman or the closet, reverse-racist who either didn’t have the guts to walk out on Wright’s radical beliefs or stayed because he actually BELIEVED them, I have NO choice!
Since I’m both a woman and a European-American, I find both of them offensive.
I’ll stay home that night wearing two pairs of socks,sweat pants,a couple of sweaters,and be wrapped in a blanket, with my ELECTRIC space heaters running, because I won’t be able to afford the 600+ dollars a month it will cost me to use my oil heater.
Yipee!Hooray for Election Day!When the U.S. sinks deeper into the abyss.
Posted by: Indiana | August 23, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am
badger…Hillary couldn’t play too hard with BO, but McCain can and hopefully will.
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am
Debra – Chris Mathews, Keith Olberman, and Andrea Mitchell are so deep in Obamas rectal cavity it’s a wonder they can breathe. Absolutely disgusting, and appalling.
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
You know, Alec Baldwin and Tim Robbin’s girlfriend…what’s her name…they both said that if John McCain won the presidency, they would leave the United States.
Now, both said that four years ago about Bush, and they are still here. Do they need help packing their bags?
Posted by: TWA | August 23, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
Every old, out of touch, and memory jab is off limits towards McCain by BO now, because
Biden is on board. That is a silver lining. We won’t hear Obama throwing age jokes, unlike the late night guys who have triple the jokes against Hill and JM, but HANDS OFF OBAMA. So sick of the PC double standard!
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am
Badger et al,
I know it’s late and your reactive arousal and aggressive postings are increasing. Do us all a favor and tyke a Valiym and go to slyeep. We will appreciate your recovery in the morning. Not that it will work, but I hope the the morning light will provide you with some measure of sanity and balance.
i believe you can change. Hang in there. Vote for the better man, which is obvious to anyone with a brain larger than an an almond,
Which may be a problem for you. Too bad.
Posted by: mctommy | August 23, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
McCain campaing just released a statement re the Biden pick and used Biden’s own word in saying Obama was not experienced enough. Great….that should be played over and over all next week…continuous loop in Biden’s voice.
Came from CNN John King on Larry.
Posted by: Debra | August 23, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am
mctommy – another self annointed voice of reason. Mind telling me which of my arguments you are disputing? This should be good. I’m waiting, mctommy, spin doctor.
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am
Chris, you are killing me, man…its been twenty minutes and you still haven’t been able to define your statement.
Posted by: christakesgeography? | August 23, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am
I would have to agree that Hillary will be obsolete in 2012. We dont even know if she would have pulled this election out had she been the nominee. The Clintons have a huge pile of bones in their closet.
Posted by: badger1 | August 23, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am
the funny thing about these lemmings, is that they fail to realize that history likes to repeat itself, mostly because it wants to be heard, like a parent whose children’s short attention span require such repetition to get the message across…..obama is john kerry in this instance, running against a member of a very unpopular party right now, but for some reason, despite all his advantages, financial and media-driven, obama is still in a virtual tie with mccain, when by all measures, he should be leading by double digits….
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am
two more historical parallels could be apt analogies: analogy 1: JFK and LBJ – the two contenders were rivals for the nomination, ultimately won by the younger, more charming Kennedy….however, Kennedy had the presence of mind to realize that he needed LBJ’s experience and presence not only the White House, but just to win in the first place….this is where obama made the ultimate mistake which will inevitably cost him the White House this year, by failing to pick as his running mate his own adversary in Clinton……
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am
analogy #2 – jimmy carter and ted kennedy – the style and personality of the two couldn’t be more different, with carter’s more congenial approach to politics eventually returning him as the nominee in 1980, only to face the juggernaut in reagan….now, mccain is no reagan, which is a compliment in terms of policy to mccain, but definitely a minus in terms of personality and charm…..but obama is very much like carter, not prone to attack politics, and, retrospectively, probably comparatively weak when compared to reagan….on the other hand, Clinton is also comparative to Kennedy, perhaps not in terms of years of service by that time in 1980, but definitely in terms of political aptitude and fire…..the result of those two personalities after 1980? by all accounts, Kennedy has become known as a Senator with a long record of distinguished service, and carter has become known as a great humanitarian…..however, his administration is another story…..
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am
i’m sure its hard to hear and understand for those who would rather bury their heads in the sand, but some problems are not so different or foreign that we can’t find examples and situations in America, of course on a different scale and scope, that share the same characteristics……when one perceives that they do not have any viable alternatives in their life, they may turn to the only alternatives that are given to them, whether beneficial or not….
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am
first and foremost, Hillary would re-establish America’s credibility on the world stage, in a way and time period that is unavailable to either obama or mccain, one because of his inexperience and unfamiliarity, and the other because of his ties, perceived or actual, to the prior administration…..
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am
Senator Clinton, in meeting and putting forth a comprehensive plan for solving these issues, will solve the age old problem of hunger? Of poverty?
This is pie in the sky stuff, these are issues that have always existed and will never be irradicated. I am not saying we should do nothing…but what particular points has Sen. Clinton made in addressing these problem sets that other candidates have not?
Posted by: christakesgeography? | August 23, 2008, 3:38 am 3:38 am
clinton hasn’t done a thing here, and couldn’t save thw world if she tried. shes dried up and done, and no crying will bring her back. FACE IT OBAMA HAS IT IN THE BAG! AND CLINTON IS HOLDING IT OPEN FOR HIM! THANKS FOR NOTHING!
Posted by: NYC | August 23, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am
i’m not saying Senator Clinton will solve world hunger and poverty, but her intelligence, experience, and resources give her the best chance among the three candidates to begin a process of having a positive effect against such problems…….
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am
i want every obama lemming to be here on November 5th, because he now cannot win on November 4th….
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
I agree, there was a power vaccuum following the invasion. The standing military should never have been disbanded, and similar organizations should not have been dissassembled.
How would Hillary empower Bangladesh? How would Hillary empower Indonesia?
Talk is merely that…talk. What would she DO?
Posted by: christakesgeography? | August 23, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
furthermore, such disrespect and/or hatred for Senator Clinton only serves to weakly disguise one’s own guilt for supporting a lesser candidate (mccain/obama) to take on such daunting challenges that the next President will have to confront…
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
There comes a point though, where the president can’t hold the world’s hand. Leaders of their respective country have to WANT to change the way things are…and I am sorry, but I don’t think that any volume of talking from Senator Clinton will change that. So in essance, it is still the status quo.
Posted by: christakesgeography? | August 23, 2008, 3:49 am 3:49 am
The UN? The UN is up to it’s eyeballs in corruption! After seeing firsthand the nature of the organization, I would never want to be a part of their missions! Their personnel are not looking to solve problems- they want the problem to continue so that their contracts get renewed year after year after year! I met UN officials that wanted things to remain stagnant so that they could work on their 8th year in country! The UN needs an overhaul, not another mission to go on, escpecially when our country foots a great portion of the bill!
Posted by: christakesgeography? | August 23, 2008, 3:53 am 3:53 am
I’m sorry, but to think that China or other countries that won’t play ball would listen to Bill…his days of being a mover and shaker are done and gone. They had the 90′s…its done, and I know that’s a tough pill to swallow for supporters. But their tenure in the political scene is over.
Posted by: christakesgeography? | August 23, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am
like it or not, the UN is one of the few organizations that may have the capability and support that such international conflicts and regional problems require for resolution……like our system of public schools in America that have many problems, we cannot afford to completely throw it away because of its varied flaws…..we must work within the system, revamp it and reorganize to make it more efficient and clean…..yet another effort that our next president will have to face, but one which is not nearly as public as the other pressing issues which dominate the headlines….
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am
“counterbalance” means not in cooperation with, but to balance out…….of course it is likely that china won’t be persuaded by Bill Clinton when it believes it is protecting its interests, no one said anything like that…..and considering his Clinton Foundation and the efforts and work he is still doing, and the initiative and drive of Senator Clinton as well, only a fool would believe that they are obsolete and irrelevant…..thus, here you are…
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am
but go ahead and count them out……they have been dismissed and disrespected more so in the past, but they certainly known for their ability to fight back and make a difference……that is what separates them from obama and mccain…..
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 4:07 am 4:07 am
and now the drying is done, and i have more house work to do…..i shall go to bed and sleep soundly knowing that I continue to support the best candidate for President that my child and family deserves…Senator Clinton….
Posted by: chris | August 23, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am
Why the heck are you talking about Clinton when its about Obama’s character is the question here. He quit on his church after saying the reverend he called his uncle at one point is a mess. Quit on on our nation when its a mess? He went to school in Indonesia where they lynch mob Christian theology schools, then he is proud to where his muslim heritage costume while he drops his fake commitment to his Christian church after his political agenda is done? Yes roxanne thanks for confirming that he bought a lot from Rezko the corrup friend of Obama with 60% discount, what will he try to pull in the white house and worst yet how will he sell out our country? NO WAY!!! TOO MUCH AT RISK!!! NO TO OBAMA YES TO MCCAIN WHO LOVES OUR COUNTRY.
Posted by: OM | August 23, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm