Bush Calls for Peace in Georgia

Honestly, if Bush thinks that the Russians are going to respond to any plea that the American government makes, he is very mistaken. The Russians seem to feel that their influence is being further infringed on by the west. The U.S. recently made an agreement to set up a radar system in the Czech Republic, and the Russian government was not very happy about it.

You have to be kidding me Bush and PEACE please that war criminal doesnt know what the word peace means I cant wait for that man to get out of the white house he is an embaressement to this country!!!!!!!!!!

Thermal
Obama did speak on it nice try!!!

supporting breakaway republics is big on the white houses’ list of favorite things…as long as the breakaway republics are allied with the usa or are democratic ( our particular flavor of democracy that is…).
we need to butt out completely in eastern europe and let russia do whatever it feel like OR step up and let russia and china know that they cant do whatever they feel like with no consequent international ramifications.
we supposedly have allies in europe and they need to step up big time as well because bullying militaristic nations like russia and china will only recognize a unified front of similarly powerful nations unafraid to use force ,anything else they will ignore , as they have since eisenhower and jfk .

It is so hilarious to me that president Bush is calling for peace.
First you stage a terriost attack on your own country to wage war in the middle east to control oil and you turn around and try to tell other countries who they can and cannot invade.
And I agree with the comment above -the media has our nation more concerned with John Edwards affair than an actually hostile situation

canary papers , i dont think its that simple. the us involvment in georgia ,eastern europe ,africa ,etc is just an ongoing democratization of the post cold war world.
the problem is that countries like russia and china look to expand politically and economically etc etc ,using military power ,not political means and to think otherwise is to ignore their very history.
these are not saber rattling nations ,they are saber wielding nations ,ready to use force to get what they need or just want. to ignore that pre fact starts any discussion out on the wrong foot.
also ,to assume there are wars fought for oil is pretty mainsteam/kneejerk thinking . if that is the case ,why is oil at all time highs in the usa ,going higher when we are dominating and basically ruling by proxy one of the largest oil producing nations ? i read the other day that iraq had a gov . surplus of 50 billion dollars because of the oil price skyrocketing recently.
so ,that begs the question…why is oil so expensive in the usa? apparently oil prices here are NOT tied to the usa winning (or losing ) some particular conflict.
the real reason we (the usa) is backing georgia and other nations around the world is that we (western civilization) need to keep russia ,india and china contained and afraid to try to expand using military force, and without our assistance ,military and economic , these smaller ,militarily weak but still SOVEREIGN nations would eventually be assimilated into the russian or chinese culture, by creeping expansionism , pogroms targeting political parties deemed problematic,etc etc, and from there it is a tiny step to political and economic domination.
now when the usa or whoever steps in to stop that kind of expansionism ,russia doesnt get what it wants ,ergo the current situation.
georgia was once (not that long agon) part of the ussr ,albeit a satellite (puppet regime) state . russia had control over its rich resources ,but the people of georgia decided they did not want to be part of russia, and using POLITICAL MEANS NOT MILITARY they started a new democratic government that is allied with their historical adversary.
now russia is using any means possible to regain the territory .thats all thats happening here ,dont sugar coat russia .

Bush seek calm? Yeah right. His hyper-response to Iraq was anything but calm and I doubt he learned anything from the experience to apply to this situation. Just keep Bush out of international affairs for the next 5 months to minimize any further damage he has done to this country and to the world.

yeah if there was a radar it shows who fired first maybe unless the other was provoked no one will know unless they were a witness, was CNN there to see what happened fist of all?

This conflict is about a province (South Ossetia) trying to break-away from the Republic of Georgia which had previously broken away from the former Soviet Union. Somebody, probably the Georgian’s, had broken a truce that was established in ’92 and the Russian’s responded with force. The Russian’s had been acting as “peacekeepers” enforcing the truce between the Ossetian’s and Georgian’s. The US has no roll in this other than to try and broker a peace between the two sides along with the EU, NATO, and UN. The US is an ally of Georgia and helps arm and train their troops as they have forces in Iraq with us. I would love to know who started shooting first and why?

Todd!!
Georgia started first shooting
Osetian forces had to defend
they were too small
so th capital was almost immidiately in georgian hands
russian peacekeepers were bombed too so they started defending themseleves and russian people that are there
they are constitutionaly tere to keep peace in the region and stoop the shooting from georgia side,which they are trying to do

Or Bush could just walk over to the other side of the bleachers give Putin a good slap. LOL

They shut down 2 planes, cause they use russian technologies sold by ucraine, which they got from deals with Russia

Alex,
nice to see that you know sme facts that are not in any american press!!!
i think that all that georgians do is like a planned action. and it’s nasty haw they are trying t show that russia started it
and the most trragic is that press is supporting their idea

Victoria, yes. This is tragic and it’s fearing me. Georgians are trying know to fool people and involve more and more countries in conflict! Nobody needs another world war. We should leave this conflict to Russia and georgia. None wants to destroy georgia, Russia has still its problems and doesn’t need another on georgian territory. The only thing that needs to be done is to claim Ossetian independence and punisment for georgians who killed innocent russian and ossetian people!

There are now some news that says that georgians are using unknown mercenaries at the scene of war! It totally desn’t look like establishing a constitunional control. More than that! They do not let people to leave the city and use artillery for it to make more casualties! Pleas, say it to your press, don’t make fools of yourselfs! You should know the truth!

RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
actually in this case it’s funny when americans say that they have democracy and especcialy freedome of speach and press. they are publishing only onesides point of view, and people are believing it. It’s awful.

Why aren’t we standing beside Georgia in this conflict. I am ashamed of of our wimpy response. If we can’t find the guts to support Georgia against Russia, I am concerned for our own future. We must support Georgia in this! To do any less will only embolden those who would destroy us. Surely we as a nation have not become so self centered that we can not see what is going on around us. If we don’t help Georgia stand up to a bully (Russia) how long until that bully comes after us?

Carl….the US trains and equips the Georgian’s who send troops to Iraq (2000). Are you implying we sent them on a suicide mission to provoke the Russian’s? IF you are it’s utter baloney.

Carl in Texas
keep your things like that!!!!
Oh I wish americans wouldn’t be so beliaveble to thir own press and history books!!!!

you are writing that Bush is not that smart, but this is not that important!!!
WHO is Saakashvilly?
He bombes osetia, killes people when he was promissed not to shoot, bombes to nothing S. Osetia’s capital and than declares in perfect english that russia invadedhos country. That’s nuts!!!!!!!

not eve hundreds. It’s thousands! That’s terrific! Georgia has to be stopped! Personnaly saakasvili!

Riiight like they will listen to him .
you talk about LAME DUCK.
You and i have a better chance of getting their attention.

Alex—I may live in Texas, but that’s not the limit of my travels in this world. I would suggest you need to visit a few places less friendly and see for yourself the real world. I have worn a uniform and stood a watch, as has my father, and many members of my family, etc. Have you? It doesn’t seem to me that you understand the cost of freedom nor how to protect it.

I don’t want to argue with you, but you don’t know anything about Russia nad this conflict.

Victoria….I know a couple of things regarding the US and USSR during and after the “Cold War”. For Instance we had a treaty with the Soviets regarding biological weapons, it turns out the Soviets were violating the treaty the entire time and had HUGE stockpiles of weaponized anthrax ready to go.

Soviet Union won in ww2, not america,not europe, remember it.

Well, that should do it.

I know my history. Thanks for supplies and operation in Normandy/ But the biggest contribution to victory was from Soviet Union.

The president of Gorgia, sakashvilli is a filthy lying war criminal. He was building up forces on the Ossetia-Georgia border for 2 weeks now – how can anyone think it wasn’t the georgians who attacked first?! This sakashvilli guy is related to Stalin, who was also a georigan and changed his name from djugashvilli when he came to Russia. You all know how much havoc this georgian monster Stalin wreaked on the Russian people. Now saakashvilli thinks it’s his turn.

This is a thinly veiled attempt by the Russians to prop up the price of oil. They’re one of the World’s largest producers of oil. They don’t like the fact that prices are falling (they can’t fund their military build-up) so they’re cynically invading a smaller country to control it’s oil pipeline from neighboring countries to Turkey, thereby threatening Europe’s oil supply.

Let me get this right…”Georgia is a sovereign nation, and its territorial integrity must be respected,” Bush says.
So what was Iraq before we invaded it, our 51st state? Give me a break, I’m laughing so hard from this ridiculous statement. I’m sure the Russians are hysterical with laughter. Is there two meanings to “sovereign nation”?

Hope this destroys the EU, who have turned their backs on us! Maybe they need their own Iraq.

There happen to be two oil pipelines that go through the area from the east. If you can’t get oil through here there is only one way: Russia.
Or I suppose you can goto the middle east. And everyone is thrilled with what is happening there.
Anyone remember when Russia shut the oil off to western europe? Why do you think they blew up the port so quickly? Starting to make sense now?

Do you really believe that Russians only want to protect Ossetians? It is ridiculous. Ossetians are a small ethnic group. They can live in democratic Georgia or in authoritarian Russia. Georgians do not want to exterminate Ossetians. Then just want to reintegrate a province which is a part of Georgia according to the international law.
The real aim of Russians is to re-build their authoritarian empire.

Pawel,
Exactly, not to mention they would like to reinflate the price of oil, which they have a large stake in.

Yeah, and Obama’s right where he’s most effective in a crisis.

I said wanted, long time ago in the times of kings.

Georgia did not start the war. It started by the so called Russian Peace keeping forces who for years refused to leave Georgian territory. They bombed villages around Georgia for days when Georgian goverment asked for cease fire. A week before Georgian side started military action the so called Osetians with the help of Russians evacuated Tskhinivali, capital of Geogia. How come Russians knew that Georgians were going to attack a week after they evacuated the tskhinvali?
So, my dear friends Russia has been planning to attack Georgia for a long time. State owned News Agencies in Russia has been spreading hatred and distrust about Georgia and Georgian people.
Georgia is a democratic country with strong democratic pricicples and asspirations. West needs to defend and support it’s democracy against Russian aggrassion.

Why is everybody so upset at Russia? The Georgians have weapons of mass destruction and they have to be stopped before there is a mushroom cloud over Moscow.

Georgia has been knifing Russia in the back for the past twenty years.

It was a wonderfully myopic and suicidal strategy on the part of the Georgians: invade ethnically Russian territory, then proceed to massacre Russian peacekeapers and undertake some ethnic cleansing against the Russian population, after which they simply “declare a ceasefire,” expecting that the Russians won’t avenge their fallen brothers.
I bet Georgia’s puppet president is wondering where all his CIA/Mossad buddies are right now, as Russia poises to completely crush them.
Notice the comments of both McCain and Obama re: Russia. They seem to be reading from the same zionist, anti-Russia playbook.

Georgia was planning this attack for a weeks. To tell the truth S. Osetia an Abhazia have never gerorgian territories. There live another nation and georgia is the only one who needs to be stopped. They killed civilians and peacekeepers.

TOO LATE!
Encouraging the recklessness of Georgian lost leader is what bush should not have done!
It was criminal of Georgians to go in and smash up Ossetia.
The reckless criminals of Georgia have been cruising for a bruising.
Now they need to be persecuted and prosecuted!

I of all people do not or can not claim to know what is best for our countrys and or the world wich case belongs to us all,except for the different skinn shade and eye shade that God noticeably shared with us as a reminder of our lands that we are or were at one time from,as sure as we all look alike and different,we look like we act diifferent as night and day.I hope that no one must fight as painfully as did the Demacrats and the Republicans do every day of the year in government in the USA,how ever in its owne way that fight helps police the white house for the average people,and the average Countrys,knock on wood the world hasnt any average countrys,I wish the best for Georgia and its because I feel for them!

The russian attack on Georgian territory is just an application of the Bush Pre-emtive Strike Doctrine of which the world is going to get more of in the future. Don’t think the rest of the world has not learned this.
Bush appeared more interested in the Olympics than in the invasion of an independent country which had thought of the US as an ally.

Seems like the Russian-Georgen conflict was very well planned by republicans. Tell me that I”m wrong knowing all these facts.
1. McCain and georgen president are best friends and actually americans helped him to get ellected paying for his compain.
2. Right before the conflict you could hear among the republicans that another tragedy like september 11 could help Mc Cain to be elected, because it would remind Americans that the world is SO dangerous and McCain is the best and the most experienced candidat.But it becomes another reminder with another international conflict where McCain could demonstrate its “beauty”.
3.McCain was too fast react on this shootings and painted Russia as agressor…without listening another side of the story.(Seemes like he was ready for that). At the same time you see the media (especially FOX channel) questioning how both of the candidates would deel with the problem.
Tell me that I”m not in my mind saying that McCain needed this conflict and Russia became a puppet of political show in America.