Candidate X: McCain Using Bill Clinton’s Words Against Obama

Who cares. You don’t have substance so far.
Zero value for you

“John McCain has a record of taking stands against his party”
John McCain has voted with a majority of his Republican colleagues 88.3% of the time during the current Congress
“By putting his country first, John McCain hasn’t always been the most popular public official”
Putting his country first to John McCain is telling his POW story first thing as a response to any criticism.

McCain collaborates with the dems about 50% times. Zero-bama, zero with reps.

I will be voting for John McCain 08
I am a PUMA

Fake Obama == Candidate X. Clinton’s words make sense to a lot of us. If OBama wants to debate this, go ahead list all the things you have accomplished, and list how you accomplished them, not those handed to you by political god fathers, not your Harvard Law Review president, not your street organizer stuff. I, for one, am not impresses with any of those things.
Obama = paper thin resume

I have an off topic question, sorry, but I am hoping someone can tell me-
During the roll call, what does it mean when a state “yields”?
Thanks!

Ben
When a state yields, it is merely postponing that state’s roll call until later. This allows the other states in line to jump ahead. Pretty common in past elections when power was being brokered.

Ooooh.
Obama should have been better to Bill Clinton’s record, rather than run against the 90′s in the primaries. I don’t think Bill Clinton feels the need to do Obama any favors any time soon.

What is the big deal? Bill Clinton spoke the truth. It is not a stretch to say that McCain is candidate Y and Obama is candidate X. The problem comes with the half of those things that you DO NOT agree with, and what candidate Y might do about those issues. For example, what if candidate Y is a bad selector of Supreme Court justices, and its about the one thing that Candidate X can’t miss on. I love Bill Clinton, but would have to vote for Candidate X. Bill’s logic is a bit flawed in this case.

Let’s see. Voting with Bush 95% of time is a Maverick. Damn, all the GOP members are mavericks then.

I totally agree, this was Bill free thinking his endorsement of McCain no matter what he says tonight. I don’t think he’ll heal and move to unity by Nov. 4, and he will pull the lever for McCain too. Good, then in 2012 President McCain can step down and Hillary will have her turn.

So who is x and y. Since McCain supported Bush by 90 per cent every year except one.. is he x or y? Guess we will find out tonight.

“Obama may have a thin resume but has better judgment than McCain. In 2000 America thought Bush would be a better president than McCain.
Obama 08, Judgment over experience any day.”
20 years in hate church = bad judgment
Friends with domestic terrorists = bad judgment
Barry = No President

Can someone tell me — is it always “bad” to vote on something the President has asked for?
Or does it always have to be “partisan” politics?
Did the Democrats and Republicans both vote on SOMETHING together?
Tax Relief?
Aids Research?
Education Bills?
Anything???
Or do they just decide they couldn’t possibly vote “yes” on something because “their” party didn’t think of it first.
This is why Washington is so screwed up!
Why is it always “us” against “them”?
I mean if John McCain voted with Bush 85% percent of the time….. you mean not one Democrat voted “yes” on the same bills? Or will it always be all Democrats voted against anything Bush approved 100% of the time?
I thought it was America first — Not Democrats / not Republicans / not Independents.
I am expecting some sarcastic answers to this — but I would hope all of you would be American’s first.

Money — and Power — Control
America Last!
I guess that’s it.

ABC news is reporting Obama in Never-Before-Aired Nightline Interview from 2004: Attacks John Kerry’s Cut and Run Proposals for Iraq.
Oops.

Obama, – an empty suit

Why can’t John McCain make an ad using his own words. Obama should make an ad using Romney’s words against him, but why recycle what someone else has said. He’s suppose to be the tough maverick, well why is he relying on old primary campaign talk from other people? He’ll spend all of his money on these same kinds of ads. Using other peoples comments and approving the message. Boring!

The McCain campaign is jumping at every perceived opportunity to use Democrats to attack Democrats. It’s a real old campaign strategy probably going back to the Romans’ divide and conquer strategies. Maybe that’s why they’re making such a big deal over the columns – they feel Obama is moving into their territory.

Obama should use Hillary’s “no way, no how, no McCain” line in one of his ads. I think that would stop him from using Hillary’s words in his ads then.

Obama is the perfect candidate in that he has no record he has to defend, i.e. he is malleable. Not even in his various positions in academe has published or contributed. Was he even offered a clerkship? He is an intellectual epigone, a giant in landscape of the mediocre. The Clintons provided polished, well formulated, and SUBSTANTIVE speeches thus setting the bar. From Obama one ought to expect Nuremberg oratory littered with linguistic lacuna.
As for the Dems, “you too, Brutus?” Unity by fiat is reason to flee. Sorry Hill, I prefer the devil I know.

What a racist remark! McCain is playing the race card – labeling Obama ‘Candidate X’ to try and associate him with the nation of Islam!
We won’t be fooled McSame!

Lame McCain.

John McCain is the empty suit. I believe the only original thought he has had recently is “Attack!” Nothing of substance has come out of that man’s mouth since he decided to cowtow to the Republican establishment. Maveric? What a laugh!

Only in America can an individual Harvard trained lawyer and a member of the US Senate be referred to as an empty suit, unpatriotic, not ready to lead, while the village Idiot Bush was elected not once but twice by the same electorate. Don’t tell me how far America has come. The US is not only divided red states and blue states but what is being revealed in this election is the split in the Democratic Party between the party elites (Hill, Bill, Carville, Begala, Davis and their ilk) and the rest of us who are trying to wrest away some power for true democracy. We have a party divided because people like the Clintons who enjoy the largess of Lady d Rothchild think they own the party and the people in it but it is the people’s party not Bill and Hill’s party. They make me sick! This timem we’re taking back our party and our country!

To those who say Obama has a thin resume…too thin to be president, I either have to submit that you are either biased against him for some personal reason or you simply are unaware of how much legislative “experience” past presidential candidates have held prior to running.
*** Obama’s legislative Experience ***
From 1997 – 2007 he has been working on legislative matters either at the State or Federal Level prior to running for President.
*** Hillary’s Legislative Experience ***
From 2001 – 2007 she has been working on legislative matters at the Federal Level prior to running for President.
*** George W. Bush Legislative Experience***
From 1995 – 1999, he was the governor in Texas prior to running for Office.
Who has the thinnest resume on legislative experience? ITS NOT SENATOR OBAMA.
People who push this idea of a thin resume for Senator Obama are doing one of two things: (1) being deliberately deceptive in pushing this position or (2) being woefully uninformed of the facts.
Either way you should not push “opinions” and personal bias not grounded in fact as FACT.

Yeah, and JMC is linked to the syndicate crime family in the WH.. Illegal war, profiteering, theft and murder… But hey, he was a POW so none of that counts .right?

Here is what I find to be of absolute hilarity or either an indication that African American men in American have somehow turned a page.
Since when did African American men become the chosen ones to hold THEE top positioning in America, the office of President?
Look around your office… How many are there first off and secondly more to the point of the argument, are in positions of managerial importance (VP of Finance, CEO, President, etc.)
To those that say Barack is being grandfathered into the Presidency…HOW? Please provide the evidence and your model. He misses on all the archetypal cues in every way.
Either American reality has changed or some people’s perceptions are not in line with it to suggest he was groomed from day one to be the President.
We have an example already in office that fits this perceived reality to a “T.”

Anyone who is pro-life for only the womb is a hypocrit and not a faithful steward of everything that God has created.
1.) Pro-life
2.) Anti-Execution
3.) Anti-War
4.) Anti-poverty
5.) Healthcare for the poor
6.) Environmental Steward
Which party has a platform that has a full respect for and covers a true stewardship of God’s creation?
You should be either hot or cold, not lukewarm.

To Animal Farmish – don’t talk about Abortion as being illegal and murder until you’ve attended the funeral of babies under the age of 4 months who died of neglect. I’ve been to two in the last two years in which they were left alone one with a bottle in the mouth so mom could get high in the other room. Did those babies deserve to come into this world just because. NO they did not deserve to come into this world to be abused -

Here we go with wedge issues.
So lets say we vote “yes,” to an anti-abortion platform but “no,” to environmental responsibility that ultimately changes weather patterns, disrupts ecosystems, and harms farmers in poorer countries.
Or say “yes,” to anti-abortion platforms and “no” to harmful subsidies that stack the deck against local farmers who are the bread basket for whatever country they live in… If malnutrition, violence, and deaths results, isn’t our vote responsible?
We need to be making adult decisions on every issue.

I’ve read all the comments so far and my response to McCain supporters is to repeat Dennis Kucinich’s words from last night: “Wake up, America! Wake up, America!” It’s pretty simple. You who are so wild about McCain: When you look around, can you honestly say that the Republican “regime” has made this country better? I don’t think so. If you want more of the same, go ahead and vote for McCain. Then don’t complain when the economy spirals into a further decline while we continue spending precious dollars on the war in Iraq that would be far better spent on this country where we have so many important issues to deal with — home foreclosures, increasing cost of gas, insurance, food, loss of jobs, etc., etc..the list of negatives goes on. The Bushites, including Mccain, are only too willingly to commit our troops to a meaningless war in Iraq while ignoring Afghanistan and the brave men and women veterans who come home to be disillusioned when they discover how little this government is doing to care for their needs. Wake up, America!

I actually hadn’t said anything yet on the topic. You will see from my last post that I feel a holistic view must be applied to life.
However impassioned you may feel about the topic, please refrain from personal attacks.
If your goal is to persuade me (in this case I’m already there) then post your argument and leave it at that.
In American we have to be able to have a logical discussion without personal attacks in order to move this country forward on sound logic, compromise, and a shared objective… be that to provide healthcare to prevent the funerals of babies…
I am a father of three and wouldn’t want to bury my children.
What I do want for them is opportunity. An opportunity to grow, to help others, to live.

I wonder of Obama is going to make the ads of all the republicans that have spoken ill of McCain?
Gosh, there’s so much material. Where do you start?
If it were me, I would start with Thad Cockburn’s premonition that the notion of a McCain presidency sends icy shivers down his spine.

The equation canidate X or Y refers to the past. He was referring to President Bush Sr. and President Clinton(him self). The argument at the time was Clinton was unknown and untested President Bush Sr. was a known and tested but the public didnt agree with him on the economy remember read my lips no new taxes. The then Governor Clinton bashed Bush about the ecomony and the people of America agreed with him. But he was unknown and untested. He futher talked about it in his speech at the DNC. Mcain fell into and trap set by the former President Clinton. Wait till Clintons rebutatal and you will see that IM right.

I read that included in the republican party platform is provision to continue the abusive expansion of executive power used by the Bush administration to lie to us, cover up, and avoid penalty for their misdeeds. If McCain were truly a maverick he would not have allowed this to be included. Instead, as always, he has sided with the Bush, Cheney and Rove machine.

Clinton was bringing up parallels between 1992 and 2008, between himself and Obama and their respective battles against the Republican opponent. This Candidate X & Y thing is a non-issue, taken out of context – so typical, I might add of the press corps. Clinton’s own words in his speech last night should clarify things for all of you – Obama is ready to lead:
“My fellow Democrats, sixteen years ago, you gave me the profound honor to lead our party to victory and to lead our nation to a new era of peace and broadly shared prosperity.
Together, we prevailed in a campaign in which the Republicans said I was too young and too inexperienced to be Commander-in-Chief. Sound familiar? It didn’t work in 1992, because we were on the right side of history. And it won’t work in 2008, because Barack Obama is on the right side of history.”

Lieberman is the only person of equal weight to Biden. Romney is however the pick of the McCain handlers. Bush and McCain are surrogates for the corporate interests that are presently running this country.
Obama would offer some fresh change in leadership. A president who is his own man. At least with Obama you know what you are getting. With McCain, like Bush he’ll do what he is told. He is already doing that.

Hear, hear! Exactly, Ben! I wish the Obama campaign would put that into an ad. Add up all the years of experience that GW, Cheney, and Rumsfeld have and what do you have? The answer is: a disaster! It’s disgraceful and disgusting what they have done to bring down this country. The Hillary supporters who are turning to McCain are delusional. It’s time to let go of egos and do what is right for the country and for the future of our children and grandchildren.

Obama has flipped flopped on just about everything. He’s great at making speeches but there isn’t too much substance.

“Since 2001, the Republicans controlled
congress and the White House ..”
Actually…. the Democrats have controlled congress for the last year or so…….

I’m an independent voter. I don’t really like political parties D or R. I always vote for the best canditates that the election offers. I would vote for Clinton, but no Obama, no way. Simply inexperienced. He needs big arena with big staging like rock star. I’m laughing at all the people throwing money for that for nothing. They should save the money for sensible things like helping disabled than an Italian arena. It doesn’t even look American. Lousy taste.
McCain is the BEST choice for 2008.
VOTE McCain 2008

Similar to the substance of your complaint about his flip flopping? Are you serious?
Have you been paying attention to the two campaigns at all? Mac doesn’t go for a day without reversing his stance on something. Sometimes he does it twice in a week! And you say Obama is a flip-flopper? You can’t be serious.
The same old tired complaint that’s been a GOP talking point for months now. The reasons against Obama presented by re-thug-licans are starting to sound like the same broken record that their candidate has been playing.
Come back to play again when you can think for yourself and don’t have to parrot the GOP/Fox talking points…

Once again. Anyone who says he/she would’ve voted for Clinton and not Obama based on a charge of “inexperience” is not being true to him or herself.
See my earlier post on how much legislative experience Barack has over Hillary. He’s been legislating at the State and Federal level since 1997, Hillary since 2001.
Who really has more experience representing voting populations – NOT Hillary.
Just say you don’t want to vote for Barack but don’t throw out statements as fact based on inexperience when they are NOT FACTUAL.

McCain doesn’t know enough words to quote Clinton.