Carville: This Convention Has No Message

But, where exactly is David Gergen gotten to? eh?
Yikes.

Michelle talks about leaving a powerful job for a “career in public service” — her current job as a $300k per year director of community relations for a hospital? That’s public service? She works for a private entity. How is that public service?

Carville and Gergen are too close to this. They’ve lost the perspective of the average guy watching at home from 10-11pm. In that hour they got to see a replay of the Kennedy speech and then the Michelle Obama speech with a final endearing moment with his children. He wants red meat because his perspective is inside the beltway. That being said, it is important to go after Bush-McCain as Kerry failed to do for the Democrats four years ago. Tomorrow I think you will see Hillary go after McCain very, very hard. Should be interesting.
Also, on an earlier post. I think McCain is using the “war-hero” card way too often and in response to attacks that are tenuously linked to his service. When Obama goes after his houses and he responds with his time in Hanoi it comes off, to me, as forced, calculated, and intellectual dishonest. He did it again on Leno and it just seemed very fake.

Bitter? Party of 1?
Your table is now available.

deep release,
LOL.

Doesn’t matter if Oprah gives them all free cars…..DEMS 4 McCAIN AND HILLARY SUPPORTERS 4 McCAIN will dot them in.

By all means change the convention to suit Carville.

With his butchering of the English language, I’m suprised anyone knows what Carville said.

I glad I didn’t spend my money for a trip to Denver to see that crap.

I switched the channel after listening to Mrs Obama for 1 minute.

Carville is stuck in the 90s with the Clintons. A few comments were made tonight about handing the keys over to the next generation and he’s still thinks the Clintons holds the keys. He’s an alien anyways so who cares what he thinks.

this reminds me of a speech by the cowboy humorist and philospher Will Rogers in front of both houses of congress. As you with a few gray hairs remember, This was in the 1930′s and he closed his speech with the comment “We’ve got the best politicions money can buy” 70 plus years later nothing has changed except now they cost more!

Calm down James!.. there is plenty of time to get there, you would think the election is this friday .
and lets not forget james give advice to hillary and she proceed to lose 10 states in a row.
If you overkill and drive bush and iraq every other word by November it can fall on deaf ears.
Barack should stay with the number one issue on people mind the economy, hit McCain hard there,the republicans have ZERO issue/platform that address things on the domestic front.
And if Mccain mention iraq , come back with bush/mccain wasting billions of dollar , and we neglect healthcare , schools, our infrastruture.
trillion dollar WAR tag help RUIN our economy.

JG: After all, he is the only Democratic political strategist to engineer 8 years of the Presidency in the last half century.
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I don’t know about that. Clinton didn’t have much competition to run against at the time. Clinton did a great job, but Carville is just an annoying, loud mouth. He needs to embrace Obama if he really wants to help the dems, but he’s still holding a grudge because Hillary isn’t in the running. Dems need unity, not Carville ranting and raving.

Well, there wasn’t much of a message on this, the first night of the convention, but it appeared that they had a “theme” for the evening. It was obvious that they were trying to “humanize” Obama and Michelle, but all the efforts seemed so staged as to be blatantly manipulative. There certainly wasn’t any genuine connection made and I’d be surprised if anyone changed their opinion about either of the Obamas.
Ted Kennedy was genuinely moving. In spite of all his personal peccadilloes, there is no denying that he has been one of the finest Democratic senators of all time. He’s a man who needs no “humanizing” or assistance at “connecting.”
Obama still isn’t speaking to me; he’s just too focused on himself. You really don’t warm to a person when you can’t rely on what they say. That line in Michelle’s speech about his word being his bond was kind of a hoot. That’s been one of the biggest disappointments about this guy.
Who knew that was what he meant when he promised change?!

james advice hillary on her campaign.
i think he should be the one taking lesson from the Obama camp.
james must realise you cant go on for hours on bush .you have to bring something to the table.
I say go after McCain more, bring up pass videos of him flip-flopin on issues. script him as someone who sold his soul to get the republican nomination.

There was a message tonight, Obama and friends do not know what they are doing. Scary to think about that for the country.

Debra: The Mother Teresa story was indeed a lie. Everyone knows this by now. It’s all over the web.

James Carville of the War Room speaking.
Perhaps James is missing the picture?
Those that are always in attack mode often do.
This night was a emotional night.
This was the emotional highlight of the first convention night. The old lion of the Senate roars again. A reminder of why we support Obama. When the Kennedy clan joined Senator Ted Kennedy on stage it became a rally cry. Join us! Yes we can!
Michelle Obama filled in the picture of her husband. America fell in love with their children. We can live with them in the White House. She is a great communicator.
James will love Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Lots of action for a warrior like him. But this first night was just as important.
This is for James Carville my inspiration -
McCain is like a Grumpy Elephant with no vision and a flip flopping memory! There is a reason this Elephant is always attacking without a postive message. His trainers are Rove & Schmidt at the circus! We know what to expect at the McCain’s convention a Grumpy Elephant entwining his trunk with 2 Rogue elephants in Bush/Cheney with two cheering trainers in Rove & Schmidt who are trying to sell the American People a 3 rd George Bush Term.

The bad news for Anti Obama people,
Since the gap of degreee of support is 2 to 1 between O & M, even though poll is close, the turnout will be 6-7% different.

This coming from a guy who the wife make thousands of dollars demonizing the Democratic Nominee and he did not openly critic the book in question and false issues it raised …am i supposed to believe his sincerity without doubt; …surely “he knows how to run his mouth without knowing what he is talking about”

Maccain supporters vs. Obama supporters
past oriented – future oriented
fear oriented – hope oriented
having a old frame of world view – 21st century globalized world view
where do you belong to?

carville and gergen know exactly what they are talking about. they saw kerry, and gore throw in the towel and play nice, soft, and sweet and they both lost. they know that if obama wants to turn the momentum around the campaign has to come out swinging right out of the starting gate.
the time for the brady bunch comes later.
unfortunately based on the comments by obama supporters it is evident that you are all determined to self-destruct.
hillary supporter from new mexico

this is a sinking ship with an egomaniacal hypocrite at the helm…..

I’m not an Obama supporter, but I thought Michelle looked absolutely gorgeous and the close with her children talking to their daddy was very emotional and sweet.
Whether that should have been the message or not is for others to decide, but if the Obama’s wanted to make themselves looked like an all American family, they succeeded.
They have achieved the American dream, and good for them. And I say this as someone who does not like Obama’s politics at all.

Aconcernedbrit: it’s Hillary’s supporters who are doing that, not Hillary herself.
There’s a difference.

Chris: “this is a sinking ship with an egomaniacal hypocrite at the helm…..”
The man at the helm is Bush and McCain is his replacement.

“My vote goes to the person w/REAL plans”
McCain’s plan=Bush’s failed agenda. McCain is a war monger if he’s elected get your kids ready for the draft.

Carville is right… of course.

People, James Carville and Paul Bagala have not yet overcome the results of the primaries. They have to understand that the DNC is in new hands and they have to face the reality. That is very important and should support Obama’s perspectives about the party and the convention. They sound like republicans talking without knowing what they are talking about and jumping all otehr the place trumpeting that Hillary and Bill are not involved in this or are not consulted on that. Enough, the republicans are already using Hillary’s talking points against Obama and the DNC. We have enough of the Carvilles and Bagalas. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA/BIDEN08.

It was painfull to watch

The less you know, the more you fear.
The more you know, the less you fear.
It’s better to know more than to “no” more.
Have you noticed how fearful most Republicans are?

“We have enough of the Carvilles and Bagalas.” Leave it to an Obama supporter to sound so partisan. It’s like saying, “if you’re not for us, you’re against us”. The Carvilles and Begalas are seasoned pros in the political game, you shouldn’t just throw away such wisdom because you want (a vaguely defined) “change”. Carville and Bagala in particular want democrats to win, above all.

I decide to change my old name (Chris) to new name (Christm) because there is a chris (republican troll) with the same name.

Now I understand why Obama once said James Carville often opens his mouth and does not know what he is talking about.
Yesterday’s theme was “ONE NATION” and it was meant to present the true Obamas to the American people and NOT the caricature that the GOP and its evil acolytes like Limbaurgh and Hannity of faux news have falsely sold to the American people.
I am sure from today, the “meat and potato issues” people like Carville are looking out for will start to come on board.
A stark difference between “change” and “more of the same” will henceforth be at the centre of this convention.
We cannot afford to have 4 more years of McBush failed policies.

was carville asleep?
i heard iraq, bush, sooo many times…
lol so funny, oh wait maybe he just watched teddys speach…
what a moron

i hope you do not degrade yourself and vote for mcdummy—-that would be self degradation on a monumental scale—-it is nice to see the obama family—-and not disfunctional mccains.

Of course the speech played well for the many Obama supporters at the convention but to those of us out here in reality- it came up short. Yes, she had to “reintroduce” her husband to us because they should have already done that but as usual no specifics- hopefully the rest of the week will show SPECIFIC contrasts between the republicans and the democrats as well as SPECIFICS ON HIS AGENDA IF PRESIDENT.
Enough of the fluff speeches- 1) whose taxes would be raised under Obama- $100,000.00, $200,000.00 or $250,000.00- I have heard all three numbers 2) aside from an immediate $1,000.00 per family rebate for higher fuel prices what are his long term energy independence plans 3) for those that have good healthcare will that be changed- what is his plan to provide health insurance for those that need it but can’t afford it 4) how would he win the war in Afganistan- the one we really need to win 5) general economy- what is his plan to get over finally this mortgage mess and get the economy moving 6) what penalties for employers who lay off US workers in this country and then move the job out of the country to save money, ETC ETC ETC
this country has real problems- too many to list- we need to know OBAMA’S specific plans and also Mc Cain’s specific plans-
And yes, we will say it one more time- had Obama picked Clinton there would already be a comfort level with many of these issues

I saw a party adrift last night. Teddy was a swing and a miss, and actually reminded everyone that the long run of the Kennedys is coming to an end, the Clintons don’t know they’re not welcome anymore, and the Obamas are not quite ripe yet. Sadly he was more like a lion in winter than the lion of the Senate. I agree with Carville. There was no message that swing voters could identify with, and at the end of the day that’s who will decide this election. Bush, the war, etc., that’s red meat for the base. What about jobs? What about economic growth? It’s still the economy, stupid! The Dems will never have a better chance to grab the White House than right now but they look flacid, rudderless and divided.

listen gang
The problem was not there was too little attack (and if carville had been listening to the actual speakers instead of pontificating with all the other talking heads he would have heard it)
the problem was the attacking came mainly from three sources…
1. Pelosi did a lot of attacking…but she delivers a speech like Mccain. If you were not in the hall (even if you were really lol) there are parts you would have fallen asleep with. I think she was given partly that responsibility (of course she ahd to slip in how proud she was of a congress that has gotten little to nothing done ugh)
2. Jesse Jackson Jr. …oy was this just the wrong speaker to bring out the first night… exactly what Obama does not need in a speech…sounding like Jesse Jackson Sr (sorry not a fan really)
3. Ted Kennedy whose speech if you actually listen was almost ALL attacking…but everyone was so caught up in the tears …that it seemed
well it wasn’t a “charge” moment.
I think outside Kennedy and Michelle…the speakers probably looked good on paper but just …it didn’t roll out like it looked on paper.
having said that…I think Michelle’s and Kennedy’s and the films… were still a really good foot to start out on.

I am a lifelong Democrat but I am not supporting Obama. I have to say that Michele Obama’s speech was very well done and made her seem much more human. However, no matter how great the speeches are, no matter how personable and likeable the Obama’s are, no matter how much they bash Bush and talk about change, I still believe that Barak Obama is completely inexperienced, way too liberal and not ready to lead this country. While Bush has led us into an economic mess, if we can’t defend our borders and our interests in this fluid and dangerour environment, we will have no control over the economics at home

Woody
I would agree on almost all but …I don’t think it is “the Clinton’s” that don’t know they are welcome yet…
I think it is the Clinton’s that don’t know that Bill (and James Carville) is like the ex-class president that came back to his high school two years later to visit his younger girlfriend telling them how good it was when he did his prom… and then trying to plan theirs.
he should just stop at saying a simple statement like
“well here is what worked for us but it is a different time”
You know…it’s not “the Clinton’s” that are not welcome… because I personally and I think the majority of Obama supporters would have been so excited if she was (because she is) our team mate…
but Bill needs to grasp his time has moved on.
Hillary’s time is now with us.
Hillary is part of this new generation and I think (personally as a die hard obama supporter that originally volunteered for Hill) most are hopeful that people will stop referring to them as the Clintons…
it’s not Bill time…
It’s Hill’s time. and She is part of the NEW leadership.
How amazing Hillary would be if there was no such thing as Bill Clinton’s id.

Brenda
Barack is almost exactly as liberal as Hillary Clinton…outside going to war and healthcare (which Hillary is left of him on)
so that’s an excuse…if you read his policies…he has extreme facilities when it comes to his understanding of the logisitcs…FAR MORE than John mccain as anyone who has sat through a questionand answer with both candidates can attest to…
I will also say
he also is far more adept than any of the other candidates at small group communication, management, and project organization on a massive level.
Next to character (which from seeing him in small groups a number of times I can tell you he seems to have in great amount…no matter how they want to spin it)
that is the quality that needs to be in the presidency.
The presidency is a management position.
He is the only Senator who seems to be good at MANAGEMENT.
and he was the Senators who ran …seem to be the only ones who had a full grasp of the issues.

“Change”, “Change”, and “Hope” is all they have! Mr. Obama will tell us as we go along because he will have to ponder on the problems, or start something and then change it along the way several times.

The presidency is a management position.
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If that’s the case, you must think George Bush hung the moon. He’s done a fabulous job according to you.
Bush has been a heck of a manager.

My post was getting long, so I ended it, but wanted to make a related point.
Michelle did what needed to be done last night. The American people agree with the democrats on the lion share of the issues that most concern them. What concerns the American people is the seeming “otherness” of the Obama’s.
Michelle humanized herself and her husband. She inoculated herself, and to a large extent, Obama against many of the character attacks regarding values and patriotism. This was extremely important, even more so than a discussion of bread and butter issues–at least on the first night. Once the American people see the Obama’s as just like them, with the same values, hopes, and dreams, then the chips will begin falling Obama’s way.
Great speech by Michelle. I tend to be quite cynical, and I teared up. The back and forth between the kids and Barack at the end was worth its weight in gold. Unscripted and real: a family that is integrated, loving, and real. An American family.

Carville hit the nail on the head….and how about that speech from Nancy Pelosi? WoooooooHooooooo…
Now that was inspiring!

@dl
You have a point about “a Clinton” as opposed to “Clintons” not being welcome anymore. That was a great analogy with the 2-year-removed jock returning to high school! Unfortunately for Hill, Bill comes with the package. Even so, as an independent voter I would have to say if she was the nominee this whole thing would be OVER, even with Bill’s baggage. Both Hill and Bill can withstand the mudslinging but I’m not so sure about Obama. He can come across as a weak whiner and the Republicans haven’t even started playing hardball yet. You know they’ve got a lot of stuff queued up between Rezko, Wright, Ayers, etc. Let’s see how Obama handles it.
@ChrisNBama
Thanks for the reminder about ’80. More recently, Kerry, Gore and even Dukakis had double-digit leads in the polls heading into their conventions and still lost, so maybe you can look at the current Obama-McCain deadlock as a good thing for Obama. The Republicans won’t be able to develop that come from behind momentum that always seems to carry them over the top at the end. On the other hand, maybe there is something fundamental about Obama that will prevent him from ever peaking above 45%. The Warren church thing didn’t help. Without his teleprompter he stammered quite a bit, which leads to your point about the Reagan debates. We shall see.

I predict that Hillary Clinton will lay it out tonight with the speech of her life. The country has been driven way off track by a miserably failed presidency and McCain promises more of the same Bush wars, tax cuts etc. Never has the choice been more clear. Catastrophic GOP leadership vs. Dem problem solving for a better future. Again, I have a feeling that we are really going to see something with Hillary tonight.

Carville hit the nail on the head.
Even the crowd at the DNC was so subdued at times, it is truly amazing that this is all the democrats have to offer.
When will the democrats realize that far left liberals just can’t relate to middle America, no matter how hard they try to fake it.

Carville’s full of crap. The Democrats still have three nights to define their message and define John McCain. If Hillary had been the nominee, they could’ve skipped the “introduction” night, but a large portion of the electorate still wants to know more about what kind of man Barack Obama is, what makes him tick, whether he and his family are like the rest of Americans.
Michelle Obama’s speech did a wonderful job to address those issues.

How dare Obama think that Clinton supporters would jump on board.
They don’t like him.
He’s radical, flip flopper, sexist and has friends I would be scared to death of.

Who cares what Carville says. This man’s wife put out the latest slime book on Obama and he can be objective? Last night was about family. The fireworks will start soon enough. Watch C-Span and you won’t have to listen to all those talking heads telling us what we should think.

“Who cares what Carville says. This man’s wife put out the latest slime book on Obama and he can be objective?”
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Carville is a fighter, and a man that worked prominently in the elections of a two term democrat. His words matter. I just think he’s jumping the gun. Michelle had to seat herself and Barack at the center of American life, so he wasn’t forever the exotic one. In my view, that was accomplished last night.
Beginning tonight, the contrasts between Obama and McCain will be drawn.

James Carville is only half-right. The convention not only doesn’t have a message, it doesn’t have a viable candidate. I’ve been around a long time, and this is the first time I’ve ever seen a convention where actual Democratic delegates are telling people they will not vote for the candidate. I’m loving this!!!! My republican relatives keep telling me the Democratic Party is just too stupid to be a part of. I don’t believe that. The Democratic Party is the best party for the people. We’ll come together again, just not this election. PUMA!!!!

“My republican relatives keep telling me the Democratic Party is just too stupid to be a part of. I don’t believe that. The Democratic Party is the best party for the people. We’ll come together again, just not this election. PUMA!!!!”
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I truly do not understand such sentiments. How can you forswear the party that represents Hillary’s values for a party that is antithetical to them?
If McCain is elected, he will be in a position to nominate as many as two justices to the Supreme Court. The most likely replacements will be the liberal wing of the court, meaning that an already right leaning court will be cemented there for a generation.
If you respect Roe V. Wade, then realize that one or two more conservative jurists will most certainly overturn Roe.
Moreover, when it comes to the rights of employees compared to employers, you know which side a conservative court with side with.
So you vote McCain if you wish, you will cut off your nose to spite your face.

“Who cares what Carville says. This man’s wife put out the latest slime book on Obama and he can be objective”
The guy wants obama to win, but this is how many of you Obama supporters talk about anyone who dares criticize the false Messiah. PUMA was born out of this hate.

JAMES CARVILLE IS A ANGRY/BITTER LOUDMOUTH! THE FEMALE HILLARY SUPPORTERS ARE ANGRY/BILLER WOMAN! GET OVER IT, HILLARY LOST THE RACE TO BARRACK, YOU ARE ACTING LIKE A BUNCH OF CRAZED WOMAN WHO HAS JUST LOST THEIR MAN TO THE ANOTHER WOMAN! HILLARY HAS ASKED YOU TO SUPPORT SEN. OBAMA, SHE IS A TRUE DEMOCRATE NOT A WHINEY FEMALE. HILLARY WILL GO ON TO DO GREAT THINGS IN THE SENATE, SHE IS A LEADER. OBAMA WILL BE A GREAT PRESIDENT, HE WILL BRING RESPECT BACK TO THE USA, HE WILL GAIN HIS EXPERIENCE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER NEW PRESIDENT WHO TAKES OFFICE. BARRACK WILL SURROUND HIMSELF WITH VERY A INTELLIGENT, CAPABLE CABINET. KNOCK OFF THE RIDICULOUS BEHAVIOR & BUCK UP, BE A GOOD DEMOCRAT, QUIT TALKING ABOUT SUPPORTING JOHN MCCAIN. GOOD LORD DO YOU REALLY WANT 4 MORE YEARS OF MCBUSH?
NE MOM

You’ve got a Carville admitting the o-bama wagon lost 25% of Convention, that’s already 25% votes they’ve lost.

He’s right. It was unwatchable.

Carville is an idiot. He still has not gotten over the fact that the Clintons, are not going to be in the whitehouse. She LOST fair and square, get over it!!

Organization is a great thing. The Democratic Party should try it sometime.

I don’t consider myself republican or democrat but I guess you could say I’m a conservative. Barack Obama will lose in November. Say what you will about Michelles “wonderful” speech and the darling children, reality is people don’t agree with Obama. They may hate Bush but ultimately Obama has too many unknowns or possible issues that scare people off. He is WAY too liberal, all the democrzts voted in favor of the bill protecting babies which manage to survive an abortion and Obama argued against it not once but twice as being a burden on abortion doctors. Whenever a difficult vote got to him he would vote “present” to avoid showing his true opinion. He has flip flopped on all the major issues and the people he has surrounded himself with over the years provide more fodder for the republican cannon shots that we know are coming.

I never ever in my life thought that I would agree with Carville, but he is right their was no message. I would go a step further though and say that their was no message because they have no message. The only thing I have heard out of babbling Barry is that we need change. He never once stated what that change is or how he would accomplish it. Based on his associations that change would be a move toward Communism. An awful lot can be said about a person based on who your friends and supporters are. Why would anyone vote for someone with the supporters that Obama has?? He is an empty suit and the first night of the convention proved it, absolutely no substance. The problem for him is that if he puts out the message he believes in, Marxism, he is dead meat, and if he avoids any message he is wounded meat so he took the lesser of evils.

“The only thing I have heard out of babbling Barry is that we need change. He never once stated what that change is or how he would accomplish it.”

I watched the first day coverage of the Democratic Convention. And I have extensively watched all developments/articles from multiple news media organization in the US throughout this election. I was particularly interested in researching the Obama/Clinton merging to join forces to elect a Democratic President.
DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION – I am particularly discouraged by James Carville, a Hilary Clinton Campaign adviser continuing to discredit the Barack Obama Campaign and the 2008 National Democratic Convention. I find it a particularly interesting question why he is linked to Fox News Network that is a well known Republican ally??? Why and what political purpose is he attempting to develop???
I am concerned:
(1)Hilary Clinton did not release her delegates. She appeared to suggestively encourage her support voters to continue their fight for her even though she lost Primaries. Because of delegates she won she should be entitled to a vote. I sincerely welcome this vote. This must be a Democratic process.
(2)Hilary Clinton Campaign Advisers are the outspoken supporters of enabling this continued division of Obama/Clinton supporters. Democratic Convention her advisers are continuing criticism towards the Obama Campaign, nuturing a division in Democratic Party, and criticism of the actual 2008 Democratic Convention format and activities.
(3)Hilary Clinton is playing good guy saying she is doing all she can. But her campaign advisers continue to publicly create /continue/encourage division. Wofson, Carville, Begalia, McAuliffe. They are keeping news on this subject. News yesterday concentrated on Clinton all day???
(4)President Bill Clinton per news and Hilary Clinton Campaign Advisers claim he is not happy. As a Democrat he has not/will not endorse Barack Obama. Bill Clinton per reports is not happy he can not give a speech on topic he prefers. But this is not his convention sadly. This is Barack Obama convention. Withholding his endorsement for this long definitely is saying he does not support. He said McCains energy bill is better than Barack Obama’s. He says this to residents of Nevada which is a state Democrats are trying to get this election. I ask why he as a past Democratic President is supporting Republicans??
(5)President Clinton is unhappy he was accused of using the race card. I am white and unfortunately I did see some racial issues. Facts do point Clinton was using suggestive reference. News caught. This is all part of political campaigning. Folks racial issues do exist in this campaign. US has come a long way, but this is still a problem.
(6)Hilary Clinton feels she suffered “gender bias” Hilary Clinton herself complained of this.
(7)News Reports out were Clintons wanted to be consulted who Vice President selection would be. Rumors spread and leaked out they were not treated well. Felt Hilary was not vetted for Vice President even though they requested to not be vetted. Clintons factually and actually set their own rules regarding any vetting. They said they did not want to be. They definitely did not want to release names of donors for Presidential Library. So many rules and confrontational roadblock obstacles they personally set. How was this stance viewed by the Barack Obama Vice Presidential vetting committee?? Obama was actually the campaign setting the rules for vetting as he won and this was his right, not the Clintons. Obama Campaign ran into huge roadblocks with the Clintons. Did Hilary really want to be Vice President??
(8)CAMPAIGN DEBT-Clinton Campaign is having difficulty paying off her campaign debt. Hilary Clinton did a wonderful job raising campaign donations. She raised close to what Barack Obama did. I have difficulty understanding where sound financial business management advisers were/existed in making sure her campaign stayed in the black. I will excuse this, and then I look at the amazing and wonderful 18,000,000 votes she got. Yes, she did break the glass ceiling for all of us women. She was a wonderful ambassador for advancing women issues for us. What I can’t understand is why her 18,000,000 voters can’t give just $5 each. Her debt would be wiped out. $18,000,000 x $5 = $90,000,000. Hilary Clinton was raising 20-30+ million each month while campaigning. This would be a great tribute to her. Why aren’t these voters honoring her with a small donation??? It would be so easy!!
(9)News articles state Hilary Clinton Campaign feels Barack Obama should pay off her debt. I don’t understand these accusations. Please refer to above numbered article. I can also see so many innovative and constructive ways these debts can be paid off without criticizing the Obama campaign. His supporters did give $600,000 as a good will gesture even during these difficult times. Fact is people personally are responsible for debts they accumulate. This is sad but so very true for Hilary.
(10)Hilary Clinton Campaign Adviser – James Carville, Wolfson, McAuliffee, etc – Hilary Clinton continues to let them criticize Barack Obama and Democratic Party. Hilary Clinton has not put a stop to this. She continues to silently let her campaign advisers discredit and complain.
(11)Hilary Clinton says she supports Barack Obama. She wants him elected. Her campaign says just the opposite.
BARACK OBAMA AND BARACK OBAMA CAMPAIGN
(1)I have researched and found he has gone to great lengths to welcome and praise Hilary Clinton. I saw one speech here his supporters were trying to “boo” her. He immediately put it down and said this would not be tolerated by his campaign. I seldom see any problems publicly except in internet blogs.
(2)As far as Hilary Clinton – Obama spoke very highly of her accomplishments. I find he would not tolerate any criticism of Hilary Clinton. This was swiftly and quickly dealt with.
(3)Obama Campaign did put site link for his supporters to give to Hilary Clinton to help with her campaign debt. His supporters gave approximately $600,000. This seems to be a nice amount considering the alarming financial problems Americans presently face. Michelle and Barack gave personally to Hilary Clinton to help. His campaign is limited by certain campaign laws. Also it is difficult for his campaign financially as he is currently running for President. Democrats do not have as many super rich support special political nonprofit groups assisting campaign financially. Republicans do. Karl Rove is now a high paid consultant for Republican Freedom Watch. McCain started using “Rove Playbook Attacks” rampantly.
(4)Obama Campaign has not criticized Hilary Cliton Campaign. They have been quite careful and respectful. Obama Campaign has been blasted with criticism for not paying off Hilary Clinton Campaign debt she personally accumulated even more by continuing to campaign heavily even when she knew she could not win the Primary Race. This is not even his debt. He has run a financially sound campaign and actually backed off heavy campaigning at the end to save money. Yes, it may have appeared he gave up, but fact is campaign must be financially sound. Obama has shown tremendous oversight at employing good judgment here. Michelle and Barck Obama do not make alot of money. Yes, he had large royalty revenues from his books these past few years. This will end though, as market does become saturated at a certain point. Obama’s could not personally assume huge financial debts. Obama selected excellent campaign financial management advisers and oversight was quite good.
(5)Obama Campaign welcomed all Hilary Clinton supporters. Campaign still has Hilary Clinton Supporters link on their website.
(6)Any Obama complaints about Clinton and media news attacks lodged against him during primaries?? OBAMA IS NOT CRITICISING NOR IS HE COMPLAINING! He has suffered harm himself too from Clinton Campaign. But is still not complaining. I am white and see race is an issue with some voters. This appears more evident among the older voters. they are from a different generation. Culturally they grew up hearing and learning racial prejudice. I find Obma is not continuing to dwell on these issues. Nor does he try to bring race into contest. And I find from my records Obama did get attacked viciously too.
(7)Obama is getting criticized heavily by Clinton Campaign advisers. I find there is really no real sound reason for this, except for Hilary Clinton Political personal gains. Maybe these advisers are hurt? But the Primary Race is over. The losers although quite disappointed need to set an excellent example of unapproachable good character.
All of you judge as you like. I have just researched and am listing what I have seen and reporting as such. I am attempting to be as objective as I can. I am tentatively leaning – WE VOTERS ARE STILL GETTING USED POLITICALLY BY CLINTONS. Facts seem to support Hilary Clinton Campaign is attempting to create many problems and encouraging division of the Democratic Party. I see too much of Clinton’s being portrayed as good guys and Hilary Clinton Campaign advisers being the bad guys who are fostering a division in Democratic Party. I see Hilary Clinton could put a stop to this pursuit quite easily. She has not taken care of this immediately. The wonderful Hilary Clinton supporters are getting two messages, and they can understand which message to believe. As a professional in medicine I am quite familiar with particular psychological campaign methods used upon the us as voters. Folks I have been college educated here.
If her advisers change then I could change my mind. Since they I haven’t, I feel she is actually endorsing her advisers actions despite what she is saying. I find it very sad.
I truly hope I will see a change. I would love to change my mind.

What ever sharonklim, but James Carville is RIGHT!

Everyone keeps talking about how bad everything is at home. But you seem to forget that 4 years ago, Pelosi, Reid and all the Dems said elect us and we will change everything. Yes, it has. Since they are the majority the last few years have gone down hill.

The only plan, the only program the Dems have had since 2000 is to whine like infants…complain, criticize..and offer up nothing new in the way of anything except raise, taxes, bankrupt the country with mandatory health insurance…which will limit health care avaiablity…continue blocking any new energy production (while pretending to support it…sound familiar…”I support the troops while undermining the war?)….Same ole same ole….
Yet they don’t in truth offer up anything new….never have, unless one sees undisguised socialism as some sort of solution.
I guess if one is looking for freebees..(at someone elses expense) and some sort of appeasment for the envy, and class warfare they stir up perhaps there is a message there somewhere.

The characteristically angry, “Hate America”, Michelle Obama experienced a Hollywood makeover that will beguile the “willing dupes” in the electorate. But, her previous well-publicized radical associations; and, her multiple attempts to trash our Nation, will betray her scripted persona. It was a foregone conclusion that the Obama handlers would have Michelle with a smile-cast to cover-up her normally angry countenance, and chain-locked to the teleprompter with their carefully scripted commentary so as to obscure the prospective 1st lady’s deeply angry disposition towards America. What a tragic example for our children; what a disastrous blow to societal cohesion at home; what a disconcerting message to our friends and allies; and, what a comforting message to our fanatical opponents abroad; to see a woman who has expressed her beliefs that: “our souls are broken in this nation”; “blacks must join in solidarity to combat a white oppressor”; “we’re a country that is just downright mean.”; “We’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents.”; “America is guided by fear, and getting worse all the time.”; and, laments that she will face, “further integration and/or assimilation into a white culture and social structure”; to have a potential opportunity to secure the White House itself as the platform for her hate-filled dictum. And, of note to practicing Christians in our society, is Michelle’s pledge that: “Barack will be tireless in keeping legal the practice of partial birth abortions”. All of this from a woman who has benefited enormously from affirmative actions which she conveniently neglected to mention in the convention speech! Along with her husband’s long-term subversive associations, his immersion in seditious anti-American diatribe; and, his recent proclamation: “I don’t want that (referring to America in its current form) for my little girls.”, has indeed revealed the Obamas as the real-life Manchurian Couple. Greg Neubeck

Carville is full of himself and sour grapes. At least he managed to get in 2-3 minutes of fame during the convention.

plenty of message coming from the Dems:
we have no clue …
but change people change

Carville’s wife has probably been promised a job in a McCain administration — He’s doing his part to keep the Democrats dysfunctional, and raise her job prospects.

blah blah blah..Iraq…blah blah blah…Martin Luther King…blah blah blah…Put a man on the moon…blah blah blah i’m black but I achieved anyway. These people have 5 million in the bank. They aren’t middle class! And people are defending the poor and protecting this country…people like firefighters? no,people like policemen? no,people like nurses and doctors?no, People like Hillary Clinton! Policitical hyperbole and claptrap all of it, This type of feel good look at my family and my cute wife crap is why i’m staying home on election night.

Remember what happens when your allegiance and desire is more for the strength and power of your Political Party than for your Country, you end up with Nazi Germany. If the Democrats continue with this format and attitude, then we are all doomed if they gain back power of both houses and the Presidency.

I am a Rep this year and proud of it, my candidate did not sit in a racist pew for 20 years, did not have political friends that are being hailed as criminals, has a wife that cares deeply not only for America but the worlds poorest and most war torn people in the world, has sat in congress for 25 years and has experience on how to run our country versus a man that has spent so little time in serving the country and more time running for offices to boost his own agendas, my candidate believes in country first and all its people, Obama selects who he is for and tells it that way. In this election the American people should see a hugh difference in the way politics are played and since we are an educated people, know that to vote with intelligence is to vote for McCain. He is experience, integrity, honesty and loyality for America.

Mrs. Obama’s speech, where she said we could create the kind of world we want..paraphrasing…did me in!
I don’t want more Presidents that give more thought, more time, and more of our jobs and tax dollars to foreign countries.
Give me a President that puts this Country first, puts our economy first, ditches the WTO, and keeps our tax dollars here, with one exception if a foreign country is hit with a earth quake, flood, etc.
With issues like illegal immigration, more & more visa workers, giving our jobs away, and the Dems blocking votes of drilling for our own oil…….I may just write in a vote this year, for the first time in my life.

My buddy just heard about Ayers for the first time yesterday (as per recent Obama ad) AND IS DISCUSTED!! I know he was on the fence before, But definitely NOBAMA NOW. The Obama campaign was stupid to bring up Ayers again – I had not forgotten , but I appreciate the reminder!!

Looks like the far left has managed to sieze control of the party. Thats not good for future elections.
Most American’s do not agree with the plank advocated by the far left. Be it gay marriage, lack of a national defense, illegal alien amnesty, more social programs, refusal to drill for our own oil, etc…
Thats how Republicans will stay in power using the far left’s positions against them with the mainstream voter.