By Kate Barrett

Aug 25, 2008 3:22pm

Clinton Reminds Reporters of Popular Vote, Says There is No Doubt This is Obama’s Convention

ABC News’ Eloise Harper Reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton, whose final argument to superdelegates in the last throes of her campaign was that she had won the popular vote, subtlety reminded reporters of that fact again on Monday.

"Remember: 18 million people voted for me – 18 million people, give or take, voted for Barack," Clinton said.

Still, Clinton has spend the first morning of the Democratic National Convention arguing that she is pushing for party unity. She responded to inquiries about whether she was stealing the limelight by saying, "There is no doubt in anyone’s mind that this is Barack Obama’s convention as it should be. And there is no doubt that what we are doing is tying to bring everybody together."

"It would have been the same way if I had won and Barack was here supporting the unity of the party," Clinton said. "This was a hard-fought campaign and there was a lot of intensity and passion associated with it in part because of the historic nature of our two candidacies."

Clinton also defended having a roll call vote at this convention, saying that was the norm. "We are doing what is traditionally done. We’re following the traditions of a party convention where Senator Obama and I and our campaigns agreed that we would both be put in nomination, which is a sign of respect and recognition for both of our candidacies  – there will be, as there has traditionally been, a roll call vote."

Turning to the vice presidential selection process, Clinton did not say whether she thought she was given the proper respect, instead praising Obama’s pick, Senator Joe Biden.

"I am very pleased in the outcome of the process I am a great admirer of Joe Biden," Clinton said. "I’ve worked with Joe. I know him well. I think he will serve Senator Obama well in his campaign. He will bring a level of real intensity to the campaign trail and he will be a great vice president. He has a wealth of knowledge and understanding of the world."

Clinton was also asked if it was true she would run for election again, as Governor Ed Rendell stated yesterday. Clinton did not say whether or not she was planning a run and denied ever saying that. "I’ve never said that," she said. "I really appreciate the strong support that I have received from a lot of people who worked hard for me but I am intent upon making sure that I have a Democratic president to work with in the Senate."

As for reports of bickering between her and Obama’s camps, Clinton said that they have a "very good working relationship." Clinton was also asked what more she could do to bring her supporters over to Obama and simply said, "I don’t know. I’m doing everything I can possibly do."

User Comments

My God, leave the woman alone! Do you think they’d be pushing Obama to get all 98% of his black support behind Hillary if this were turned around?
What does the woman have to do to sell this loser to Americans?
Nothing…..he can’t do it himself and he will lose, NOT BECAUSE OF HILLARY OR BILL!
How about the seating of FL and MI AFTERALL? Since Hillary would have won both those two states and BO was against counting them…now he’s OK after the primaries WHERE SHE WOULD HAVE WON? I can’t stand this sock puppet!
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!

Posted by: Debra | August 25, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Boycott celebrities who endorse Obama!

Posted by: SamVA | August 25, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Why are the Democrats who support McCain called Hillary supporters. Yes Hillary Clinton is the best candidate that we have seen for a long time but if the Democratic nominee had been qualified for the job of President, then we would be voting Democratic.
Dem for McCain
PS: I like the “Boycott celebrities who endorse Obama!” idea.

Posted by: JasonDC | August 25, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

Sorry Hillary, we love you, and you can vote as you please. I own my vote, and will not be bamdoozled to vote for BHO, the worst candidate in Presidential history. We appreciate all that you have done here, but your work is done. It’s McCain all the way.

Posted by: decentAmerican | August 25, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

All I hear is people saying how Obama will bring “hope” and “change”, no mention of what that actually means. I questioned his experience and was called a racist for it.
These people though have no problem dumping on Hillary and with no charges of sexism being raised. Most people seem to glory in the fact he actually has no experience, because they say experience means corruption.
A more deluded bunch I have never seen.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!

Posted by: Debra | August 25, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Hillary, you lost!
Get over it and move on.
It’s not about you!

Posted by: Tom | August 25, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Obama has to have someone to blame when he loses in November so no-matter what Clinton does Obama and his goons will blame Clinton. Just because people like Clinton and know that she would be a great president doesn’t mean that we are bitter. If Obama was qualified for the job I would vote for him…but he is not.
Democrat who is voting for McCain in ’08

Posted by: Walter | August 25, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Vanessa dear, BO should have been up by DOUBLE DIGITS NOW. After Hillary dropped out we heard he’d get the bump, after the World tour, he’d get the bump….honey the only bump he’s had is with Michelle’s fist. He wouldn’t need to get a 16 bump now if he had kept up since Hillary left the race.
Kerry was 16 POINTS AHEAD BEFORE THE CONVENTION.
Not even Oprah can help him now.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!

Posted by: Debra#1 | August 25, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

My God, leave the woman alone! Do you think they’d be pushing Obama to get all 98% of his black support behind Hillary if this were turned around?
What does the woman have to do to sell this loser to Americans?
Nothing…..he can’t do it himself and he will lose, NOT BECAUSE OF HILLARY OR BILL!
How about the seating of FL and MI AFTERALL? Since Hillary would have won both those two states and BO was against counting them…now he’s OK after the primaries WHERE SHE WOULD HAVE WON? I can’t stand this sock puppet!
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | Aug 25, 2008 3:31:34 PM
HILLARY SUPPORTERS, TAKE A STAND. HILLARY IS BEING PRESSURED HERE. A VOTE FOR MCCAIN IS A VOTE AGAINST OBAMA BIN LYIN! DON’T VOTE FOR OBAMA…WE DON’T WANT HIM IN OUR WHITEHOUSE! POWER IN NUMBERS AND LETS SHOW THE DNC THE POWER WE HAVE! VOTE FOR MCCAIN…..NEVER, EVER, OBAMA!!!!!!

Posted by: DAVID | August 25, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

I’m a democrat for McCain…….
Never Obama….the worst candidate in
history………

Posted by: NICHOLAS | August 25, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

There are two Debras here, so I guess I’ll chage my post name…not sure I like the words of Debra, although the message is right on.

Posted by: Debra#1 | August 25, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

I don’t get all you “HILLARY SUPPORTERs FOR McCAIN”….You act like children…McCAIN IS A REPUBLICAN! HE WILL GOVERN LIKE A REPUBLICAN! If you are okay with that then you never were a Democrat to begin with. You were simply a member of the Clinton party and not a very smart one either since your leaders (Bill and Hill) will do what they have to to get Obama elected. Grow up! It is because of people like you in the Democratic party that I will remain an Independent…

Posted by: indy_voter | August 25, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

If John McCain was smart, he would go after Hillary for his VP running mate.
Obama’s foolish behavior and scandalous pas will cost the democrats the white house this fall. Hillary as VP for McCain would give her a solid leg up in 2012, plus she would be the sitting VP. These days, Washington DC is one party anyways — the SCANDALOUS party. Neither side can stay out of trouble.
It would be a winning ticket with McCain and Clinton. Redefine American History, Hillary and become a true champion of change and reform by backing McCain. It would send a clear message to Obama that his inexperience and political games are no longer welcome.

Posted by: David | August 25, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Fact is Obama is up in the polls. Up in the electoral votes. And after the debates his leads will increase.
Posted by: Vanessa | Aug 25, 2008 3:39:07 PM
Vanessa…you are lying and you know it! Obama has fallen in the polls and continue to fall. He will not get the 10 to 15% bounce because he lies and Biden is the worst he could have chosen. Hillary, yes, she was the stronger candidate and would have gotten the bounce.
It’s over for Obama and you know it. Hillary supporters are die hard and will NEVER vote for Backtrack Obama! I love the fact that there are protests and I can’t wait to see Obama and his ugly wife’s face when he has to concede to President John McCain!
Hillary 08!

Posted by: DAVID | August 25, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

indy_voter….we, Hillary supporters, will continue to come together in numbers and defeat not only Obama but the DNC as well.
A vote for McCain is a vote against Obama. We don’t want Obama in OUR Whitehouse!

Posted by: Alice | August 25, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Apparently those who plan to vote McCain because Hillary is not the Democratic candidate really do not care who will be nominated to the Supreme Court of the US should McCain win the election. This is cutting off your nose to spite your face. I can understand loyalty to a candidate, but what about loyalty to the party? If Obama looses this election Hillary supporters will be the blame and you will find it will be hard for Hillary to ever win back the Obama voters should she run in 2012. I just think everyone needs to stop and think about what issues are important to you – and then vote McCain if he represents your values; vote Obama if he represents what is important to you.

Posted by: sunny | August 25, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Tom,
Instead of telling Clinton and her supporters off you should be appreciative that Clinton is openly supporting Obama. It is hateful people like you who make Democrats not want to be affiliated with Obama or his supporters.

Posted by: JamesUVA | August 25, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Haters & liars

Posted by: truth | August 25, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

PUMA=Faux Democrat/Undercover Republican
A Democrat who claims they’re voting for McCain, was never a real Democrat to begin with..

Posted by: Jennifer | August 25, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

You people who say you support Hillary and will vote for McCain are insane. How are you supporting Hillary if you are voting for someone who believe the exact opposite of what her and Bill have fought for in both their careers? How can you vote for someone that has 7 houses, but doesn’t know that, and thinks anyone making under 5 million dollars a year is middle class? This is why this country is losing all credibility and any type of honor in the world. Because we keep voting people into office that have no clue and only hope to gain from our suffering.

Posted by: gina | August 25, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

just as a previous writer wrote, I don’t believe that if this were the other way around Obama would be encourageing his 98% if black voters to vote for Hillary. She does not owe Obama anything, if anyone owes anyone anything he’s the one that owes her. Obama just does not deserve to be president and I don’t think people should be voting for him. This is a more serious situation than the celebrities and college and high schoool students should have so much influence over. I am a democrat but will pull the lever for McCain and hope that enough Americans join me in this venture to get McCain elected. It just hurts to watch young people who have had more experience voting for American Idol than voting for president with be part of the decison making process for choosing the president of the US. The rest of most of their time is spent playing video games and eating juck food. Nowhere else in the world do adults abdicate to their children such important tasks as this. In most countires that I’ve visited, children know thier place until they have actually gained enough experience have a role in the countries most important business. Only in America!

Posted by: diddy | August 25, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Tim,
Calling people racist will not make them change their minds about Obama. Some people may have white guilt and so they think voting for Obama will help but in reality if Obama was elected and he screwed up the country due to his lack of experience and judgment, it would make black people worse off. Not to mention that all he does is talk down to black people.

Posted by: Albert | August 25, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

HIllary…It was a give, not a take.

Posted by: beck | August 25, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Debra | Aug 25, 2008 3:43:01 PM
First Debra, your post above is offensive and disgusting. Second, Barack Obama is as much white as he is black. You need to do some serious soul searching as to why you beleive only 100% white Americans should serve as president. You being a 100% white person, are an embarassement – and what most would call racist. You tend to forget that black Americans pulled together to vote in Bill Clinton twice as president and Hillary twice as Senator. I would say that black Americans have done as much for the Clintons as the Clintons have done for them and they are pretty even.

Posted by: sunny | August 25, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Debra–I hate to break this to you, but we have *already* suffered through eight years of withering incompetence from a “mindless monkey-eared boy,” and the economy is already IN a recession, because he sent it there. (Oh, and not that it matters, but W. was white.)

Posted by: Bob | August 25, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

To all of you former Hillary Supporters who are for McCain. Do Whatever You Like…But do not complain if McCain isn’t all what he claims to BE. I’m a Republican who’s voting Obama/Biden ’08 because my brother is fighting in Afganistan on his 3rd tour and I feel betryaed by the Bush Administration

Posted by: Just Twan | August 25, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Why do you think Obama should not be president?
Lack of experience?? He has more than Bush did?
Because of some baggage… Lets see… they all have really bad baggage. Some more than others. I am getting why some of you are sooooo against Obama.
His policies and plans are for you and you only unless you are one of the top 15% of the very wealthy in the US.
Someone please answer this question for me…

Posted by: beck | August 25, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

I feel sorry for you Obama supporters who call the Democrats who are voting for McCain, faux democrats or say that we were never real democrats. You clearly cannot think for your self.
I have voted for Democrats my entire life. Does that make me a democrat, I guess not. I am educated and an independent thinker. I will not vote for a Democrat just because they are a democrat. I vote on experience and judgment and Obama has neither. I don’t even know where he stands on the issues because in the short time he has been in the senate, he has constantly changed his positions to further his political career.
I am an independent thinker who has voted for Democrats until this year. This year I will vote for McCain.

Posted by: Thomas | August 25, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Beck,
Obama was only in the senate for 1 year when he started to run for president. He voted “present” on over 100 of the issues while in the senate. He has changed his positions so many times that no one really knows where he stands. He has more corrupt ties than anyone in Washington and he is brand new to politics.
He knows he is not qualified for the job of President and said so himself in 2004. He is running on his judgment since he has no experience but his judgment is really poor (Ayers, Rezko, Wright, the surge, Russia, wire tapping etc…).
I find Obama to be arrogant, corrupt and grossly under-qualified therefore I will not vote for him.
Democrat for McCain

Posted by: Alex | August 25, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

I guess these “Hillary Supporters for McCain” actually think they matter right now. Just like the Clinton’s, these supporter’s obviously have ego’s that blind them from reality. Even with all the energy they are spending on anti-Obama ways, he still has the edge in the polls. WITHOUT YOU!!!This process moves on with or w/out you, time doesnt stop because you are withholding your support. Oh yea, by the way, if Barack loses and the Clinton’s are blamed…Out of the 98 percent African American’s that favor Barack, and the new voters that are brought in that favor him; how much of that support do you think will go to Clinton? It is just going to be the same situation with his supporters as it is with hers, only times 10. Which would lead to a Republican President for the next 12 or so years. If you arent going to vote for Obama, okay, just shut the heck up; nobody cares, he’ll win anyway…Open your mouth when McCain takes a lead in any poll…
-Obama08-16…Kaine16-

Posted by: Dem-4-Life | August 25, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

tsk tsk tsk, trying to herd these paid McCain posters is like herding cats.
Ding-Ding-Ding Darlings!! Time to check in with our leaders at McCain’s campaign headquarters!! Let’s collect our points for $$ and prizes, have a team hug.
http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx
XOXOXO

Posted by: Cindy | August 25, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Seems to me this is the result of the cult of white guilt that has been force feed upon the last 40 years of school children. If everything that is wrong with the world is because of white people then the logical outcome of such thinking is to put a minority in power. Whites think that by putting Obama in power it will finally “prove” white people are not racists anymore and all our race problems will be solved. They’re in for a real shock when negros still act like negros.
Posted by: sunny | Aug 25, 2008 4:08:52 PM
There must be a second sunny posting here – sounds more like “debra”. I am not a racist but I do believe she is. I will now post sunny in tulsa.

Posted by: sunny in tulsa | August 25, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

I know it is hard for Mrs Clinton and her supporters to forget about the process but frankly speaking Barack Obama was not the cause of mrs Clinton defeat or set backs it was her own poor lack of judgment and her own inability to stop the infighting in her camp, she made a poor judgment about florida and michingan from the start when she said their vote will not count, but if there is any one to blame she has to blame her chief strategist Mr Mark Penn who could not identify which states holds primary and which states holds cucurses, but this convention is not about Obama is about the democratic party which Hilary is a memeber if she chooses to spoil the convention then she has spoil her own political carrier if her supporter thinks that America is on a right course for the past eight years then they should go and vote fo Mccain but those same supporters should know that Mrs Clinton did not came into this race thinking that the republican and Mccain has done any thing better for the last eight years

Posted by: louis | August 25, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Debra#1, you will totally abandon what Hillary fought for if you vote for McCain! Why oh why would you do that? Do you really want another Bush term? Do you want troops in Iraq for 100 years? Do you want the draft reistated?Do you want big oil determining our nation’s future?

Posted by: Hoo-Ahh! | August 25, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

That is racist. Everything is racist.
What, you said something about a black hole in the atmosphere, that is racist!

Posted by: Power | August 25, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

hillary

Posted by: hosting | August 25, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

hillary onlye

Posted by: hafriyat | August 25, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

That’s right Hillary… keep reminding everybody about all the votes you got. Right now Obama is not getting about 22% of Clinton voters. If he picked her, he would be losing 50% of his supporters, so he is doing ok. What I think is really pathetic is that John McCain needs Hillary supporters to win the election.
HEYYYYYYYYYYY get your own votes.

Posted by: Ron | August 25, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

hillary onlye

Posted by: hafriyat | August 25, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

The latest poll is out… Conservatives are brain dead.

Posted by: Ron | August 25, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

I am so glad to not be affiliated with Obama supporters. I want to live in a compassionate world not a world filed with so much hate.
Democrat for McCain ’08

Posted by: Rick | August 25, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

PUMAS could saddle Hillary with disrupting the Democratic party, which would effective end her career. If the Clinton’s are blamed for a fractured party, it is political suicide for Hillary. Personally I want to see her in a position of prominence down the road. How about Sec. of State or Atty. Genl.?

Posted by: Hoo-Ahh! | August 25, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Change I can believe in, Democrat for McCain 2008

Posted by: Brian NY | August 25, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

I could not stand 4 to 8 years of Obama’s “Ahs” “Uhms” and “Long pausing Ands” in his answers to questions. He would surely flunk speech 101. I don’t understand why everyone thinks he is a great speaker. Sure if there is a canned speech in front of him. But ask him when babies first have rights and he will say that is above his paygrade.What a joke.

Posted by: Dave | August 25, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Rick,
I too want to live in a world without hate and the politics of personal destruction. This is exactly why I am voting for Obama.

Posted by: Hoo-Ahh! | August 25, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

you people are ignorant. just vote and be done with it. who cares what you think. remember, there is no comment box in the voting booth. ha!

Posted by: BK | August 25, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

It’s not Clinton’s job to get voters for Obama just like it wasn’t her job to state whether obama is a Muslim or not.

Posted by: geevill | August 25, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

This just reminds me of the total disbelief I had when Democrats passed up one of the most qualified candidates they have ever had, Hillary Clinton, for an unproven man with no record, shady associations, and, quite frankly, delusional rhetoric (tides stopping to rise, earth healing, and all that mumbo jumbo).
If this were Clinton vs McCain, you Dems do realize Republicans wouldn’t have stood a chance. It would have been a landslide.

Posted by: JA | August 25, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

I am so glad to not be affiliated with Obama supporters. I want to live in a compassionate world not a world filed with so much hate.
Oh darn, that didn’t get you any points because it wasn’t sincere enough. Try again, this time try to put a sob into your tapping. Remember, we don’t give points at headquarters for half #$& work.

Posted by: Cindy | August 25, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

Hey Nicolas, you have it wrong… the worst candidate in history was George Bush

Posted by: Ron | August 25, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

Barack Obama will not win this nomination. He will have to be carried over the finish line by the super delegates. So much for party unity.

Posted by: Carrie | August 25, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

SamVA said, Boycott celebrities who endorse Obama. Sam, I’ve been doing exactly that. No more Oprah, not that I ever watched that fat cow in the first place. But if I did watch her, I’d quit.

Posted by: JB | August 25, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Hey Carrie, you think Hillary can?

Posted by: Dem-4-Life | August 25, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Tom said, Hillary, it’s not about you! Tom’s right. It’s not about Hillary. It’s about her supporters. They hold the key to this election. Without them, Obama cannot win this election. So why did he pick Biden? Simple. Arrogance trumped common sense.

Posted by: Carrie | August 25, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

Carrie,
do you support McCain’s positions on issues?

Posted by: Hoo-Ahh! | August 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Debra people call you a racist because that’s exactly what you are. You can pretend all you want, maybe even deny it, but that won’t change what is so obvious.

Posted by: ll | August 25, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

I am a life long republican mom of 3, who has looked at the candidates available and has chosen to vote for Barack. We need his intelligence, willingness to seek diplomatic solutions rather bluster, his ability to stay calm under pressure and the great ideas his has put forward on the economy , education and energy in particular.
Re: Clinton, to those who say he did not vet her, pls note that Barack sat down and talked with HRC at length about the VP.
HRC and her camp did not want to provide info to be vetted unless she was guaranteed the VP Slot. With Bill’s List of Donors, and other dirt and information that the Republicans have on The Clintons, they would have had to provide info. Look at what just happened with Edwards. As a republican, we have waited and loved nothing but to run against this Clintons, do not mind the fake crocodile tears. If McCain and the Repubs are so upset about HRC not being Obama’s pick, they may want to ask her. They dare not because she will tell them where to go.
As a republican, I am willing to consider a democrat this time, I simply cannot continue for four more years of this. My house has lost value; my once profitable business is struggling as costs are increasing. McCain is simply out of touch on the economy and foreign policy. Being a POW does not confer that you. I am also so ashamed of the negative tact of his campaign, since he hired the Rove people, the same people who did the same to him.
I ashamed that I was a republican for so long, after this I will switch to independent.
All Ex HRC Supporters, from this Repub do not vote for McCain, he has no respect for women his personal life and comments have shown that. The Repubs are just trying to divide the democrats. Trust me if Barack loses because of this no-sense HRC will never, ever win the Presidency and the Democratic Party will become a relic because they will not get the white house in years to come.
America, put aside your hidden prejudices, this is really what it is about and let us turn the page this time.
I seriously urge you to vote for Barack, we cannot continue down this road.

Posted by: Linda | August 25, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Wow all I hear and see is a bunch of angry white people bashing the Democratic Nominee who was appointed in the same Democratic fashion that Hillary used to run. Now your bitter? Now you want to support McCain? Is it because he is WHITE?
With all this chaos, and the Clintons no longer in power, all the white folks are mad. Obama has a closer grass root to the American Middle and lower class than any Clinton every did or ever will.
There is no experience to being President when you are the first lady, so I say to you WHAT EXPERIANCE DOES SHE HAVE? NONE
And for the last post, how can whites find a country when its inhabitants were Native American. Last I looked; my forefathers and ancestors built this country. Last I looked Many blacks invented, founded, and pioneered many great things in this Nation as well.
If you didn’t like or don’t like the area or surroundings, I suggest you go back to England or Britain. O wait, they seem to Love Barack Obama as well.

Posted by: MO | August 25, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

Holy cow, I wondered what kind of nutty Democrat would want to keep this country in ruin by voting for McCain because they’re such spoiled brats and didn’t get their Hillary, and now I know: Idiots, racists and narrow minded dweebs.
Get this: Our country is in a mess because of Bush. Don’t let the Republican propaganda machine fool you. Democrats — Obama, in this case — must win back the White House. For the love of God and your children, get over it, get on board and let’s save this country.

Posted by: jeezlouise | August 25, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

I am a life long republican mom of 3, who has looked at the candidates available and has chosen to vote for Barack. We need his intelligence, willingness to seek diplomatic solutions rather bluster, his ability to stay calm under pressure and the great ideas his has put forward on the economy , education and energy in particular.
Re: Clinton, to those who say he did not vet her, pls note that Barack sat down and talked with HRC at length about the VP.
HRC and her camp did not want to provide info to be vetted unless she was guaranteed the VP Slot. With Bill’s List of Donors, and other dirt and information that the Republicans have on The Clintons, they would have had to provide info. Look at what just happened with Edwards. As a republican, we have waited and loved nothing but to run against this Clintons, do not mind the fake crocodile tears. If McCain and the Repubs are so upset about HRC not being Obama’s pick, they may want to ask her. They dare not because she will tell them where to go.
As a republican, I am willing to consider a democrat this time, I simply cannot continue for four more years of this. My house has lost value; my once profitable business is struggling as costs are increasing. McCain is simply out of touch on the economy and foreign policy. Being a POW does not confer that you. I am also so ashamed of the negative tact of his campaign, since he hired the Rove people, the same people who did the same to him.
I ashamed that I was a republican for so long, after this I will switch to independent.
All Ex HRC Supporters, from this Repub do not vote for McCain, he has no respect for women his personal life and comments have shown that. The Repubs are just trying to divide the democrats. Trust me if Barack loses because of this no-sense HRC will never, ever win the Presidency and the Democratic Party will become a relic because they will not get the white house in years to come.
America, put aside your hidden prejudices, this is really what it is about and let us turn the page this time.
I seriously urge you to vote for Barack, we cannot continue down this road.

Posted by: Linda | August 25, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

As a Hillary supporter, I will be voting for Obama, I am being selfish here, however, I have had two sons in the war and another not in the military. My family has done its part. Also I need my daughter to have health care since her husband decided he didn’t want a one-woman marraige. She works and works hard, therefore she does not qualify for welfare, all my kids work. She cannot get independent health care (she is a realtor) because she has had cancer twice in her 30 years. What am I suppose to do, sell everything I have to pay for one MRI, Pet Scan, Treatment and Hospitalization. McCain is for the Draft, his Health care only gives tax credits – He calls the Draft “Mandatory Service” on his web site. I would have loved to see the first woman president, I can’t afford to be prejudice or bitter right now. I have to look ahead as to my daughters rights to health care, as well as my youngest son to be here to help raise his two children. This may and probably seem stupid to alot of the other Hil supportors, or even the many republicans – but it doesn’t to me.

Posted by: Mary | August 25, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

As a Hillary supporter, I will be voting for Obama, I am being selfish here, however, I have had two sons in the war and another not in the military. My family has done its part. Also I need my daughter to have health care since her husband decided he didn’t want a one-woman marraige. She works and works hard, therefore she does not qualify for welfare, all my kids work. She cannot get independent health care (she is a realtor) because she has had cancer twice in her 30 years. What am I suppose to do, sell everything I have to pay for one MRI, Pet Scan, Treatment and Hospitalization. McCain is for the Draft, his Health care only gives tax credits – He calls the Draft “Mandatory Service” on his web site. I would have loved to see the first woman president, I can’t afford to be prejudice or bitter right now. I have to look ahead as to my daughters rights to health care, as well as my youngest son to be here to help raise his two children. This may and probably seem stupid to alot of the other Hil supportors, or even the many republicans – but it doesn’t to me.

Posted by: Mary | August 25, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Obama/Biden 2008.

Posted by: voter in PA | August 25, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

If the roles were reversed, they would not make Obama concede everything. They really need to give her some breathing room and quit acting like this election wasn’t close. Don’t they realize that half of her supporters are democrats? She’s ready to move ahead. Why hasn’t Obama been able to bring her supporters forward? Perhaps he deserves some responsibility. Maybe the media could take a look at that?

Posted by: rafraf | August 25, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

Anyone with any kind of sense can tell that this is so insincere.
” I will throw my support and do my utmost to get Barack Obama elected so that we have a Democrat in the white house!”
Where is
campaign aggressively
speak out against all the negative McCain attack ads that use her
This woman is vindictive !!!!
Obama/Biden 2008.

Posted by: voter in PA | August 25, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Some whites think we OWE hillary clinton something. no, not at all.
we do not OWE anyone anything.

Posted by: voter in PA | August 25, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

I really don’t understand Hillary Supporters. No amount of complaining and protesting is going to get her in the white house. Play the game with the players you have now. Unless you want the economy to stay where it is and the U.S Government to CONTINUE invading our privacy, continue to bash Obama. He may not be perfect, and maybe he did steal the nomination, but that is who we have in the game. So let’s get the most we can out of him.

Posted by: Brian | August 25, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

BLACK WOMAN HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR MCCAIN.

Posted by: BILLIE | August 25, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

I can’t take it….I’ll tell you poor little guys what is going on. Women for Hilliary are annoyed at the racist and other ugly comments that Obama and his supporters have called the Hiliary AND HER supporters——-HELL HAVE NO FURY LIKE A WOMAN GUYS. Now you want Hilliary dem votes, after all the lies and names you did? Bwahahahahaha…

Posted by: chattyway | August 25, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

Not to mention, the disenfranchisement of voters both in MI and FL but now want them and are lowering yourselves to finally allow all those voters you didn’t want to vote before?

Posted by: chattyway | August 25, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

Can anyone answer the question no one seems to want to face? I am a Hillary supporter, and I believe she should be President. However, if Obama wins, he invariably will be the nominee in 2012, so the earliest Hillary could ever run would be 2016, at which time she would be bumping up against the “age” thing that we are going to use against McCain…. So why doesn’t anyone address the fact that by backing Obama, Hillary’s backers are ending her quest for the White House FOREVER?

Posted by: Richard Feynes | August 25, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Hillary and the MAINSCREAM media are conveniently avoiding a very big FACT…that in every state where it was allowed, republicans marched to the polls at the behest of HUSH BIMBO’s Operation Chaos and voted for Hillary. It would be very easy stats to offer up estimates of how many of these 18 million Hillary voters were Operation Chaos clowns. The fact that polls say only 47% of Clinton supporters will definitely vote for Obama would be your first clue to make an educated guess…but in the vast wasteland of AMERICA under the bushbaby cheeny packer regime…educated guesses don’t hold much muster…Film at Eleven folks!!!!

Posted by: daddyblue | August 25, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

No one is turning against Bill and Hillary. I for one appreciate the attention Bill paid to the African-American issues while he was in the White House. However, that attention came with a price. When he got in trouble at the end of his 2nd term,he counted on and received the support of the African-Americans. The majority of his own people threw him under the bus.
Now, the primaries are over and Obama won. In one breath this morning Hillary told her supporters she supported Barack, yet in another breath she brought up the number of votes she received during the primaries. (stirring up the pot) Does that sound like unity to you? that sound like someone who can’t accept …what is.
If you want to talk about corruption, let’s talk about the all the corruption that has gone on under the Bush administration.
The media manipulates our conceptions of each other so much. Usually, the images you see on TV about blacks are thuggish, so when you see a Barack and Michelle you don’t know how to relate to them.
I also believe the media is instigating this so-called split between Hillary and the Obama camps. Look! Barack won and I personally don’t want 4 more years of a Republican rule. Can’t we agree to disagree and get the Republicans out of the White House????

Posted by: y.sister | August 25, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

One other point….did ANYONE thing of taking Obama into a room and talking some sense into him. If he would really rather LOSE his way than accept the “baggage” a Clinton Vice Presidency would allegedly bring (I don’t necessarily agree with that), then perhaps he is too narcissistic for me to vote for him. To me, his failure to recognize 18 million voters belies his claims that he can compromise. Too much ego, not enough pathos.

Posted by: Richard Feynes | August 25, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

If the USA listens to idiots like DEMOCRAT NO MORE 2 then they deserve 2012 to end things as we know it. SURVEY SAYS…it is far more likely that ronnie rayguns was the 666 BEAST and if not him then CHEENY boy fits the bill pretty well…but as the HARMONIC CONVERGENCE has showed…most Americans are not thinking real well right now and 2012 might just put them over the top…9.5…9.0….9.5…9.0…9.5…9.5…GOLD!!!!!!!!

Posted by: daddyblue | August 25, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

wow, where did ABC news find such a large number of Republican trolls to fill the comments on this post? what planet are you people living on?

Posted by: onceler | August 25, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

The more comments I hear from the die hard Hillary supporters, the happier I am that she lost. The kind of vitriol spewing forth from some of you is absolutely atrocious. I initially supported Hillary, I now support Barack. I am a Democrat and I believe in the principles of the Democratic platform. I could have voted for McCain in 2000 but not for this version. For all of those who chose to vote for McCain, it is your perogative, it is your right. Your reasoning and some of the raically offensive postings makes me relieved that we are not on the same side.

Posted by: Vote_with_your_brain | August 25, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

if you don’t think racism is still a problem in this country…just read a few of these posts. On another topic, you diehard Clinton fans are just bitter and angry. Don’t forget there was a primary and Clinton lost a close one to Obama. Obama was just better organized and won many more states. It was NOT the DNC that gave the nomination to Obama…he had an insurrmountable lead in delegates…or have you just conveniently forgotten that fact? And for you who want to vote for McBush…it just shows your intelligence and bitterness voting for somebody who is against everything that Hilary Clinton and the Democratic party believes in…frankly you make me sick!

Posted by: Brad | August 25, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

Obama wants to ignore 18 million votes thats not only unfair its not smart. All he had to do was include Hillary in the hunt for the vp. and it would have been easier for us to all get along. If he can ignore 18 million people before the election can you you imagine how he will ignore us later. For you Obama supporters getting mad at us doesnt make you smart either. You can get more with honey–or maybe you are so arrogant you dont think you need our 18 million.

Posted by: arnold | August 25, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Debra,
You are clearly a racist Republican masquerading as a Democrat so why don’t you go put your KKK robe back on and stop pretending you know anything about Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. You are a dyed in the wool racist.

Posted by: DW | August 25, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Stop with the racist rantings. I am voting against Obama not because he is black but because he is a presumptious arrogant buffoon with no experience to back him up, just radical left wing nuts and felons as his compadres.

Posted by: Cheri from Oregon | August 25, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

Great to see these Hillary supporters for McCain. We’ll know exactly who to blame when our nation faces four more years just as bad as the last 8. Come on people – if you seriously believed in Democratic ideals, you’d have the sense to realize that Barack’s policy is almost exactly in line with Hillary’s. How can you seriously consider voting for McSame?! SHAME ON YOU – don’t ever call yourself democrats.

Posted by: McShame on the PUMAs | August 25, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

So Cheri are you saying you like the repub policies and are satisfied with the economy.

Posted by: ? | August 25, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

I am black disable vet from Mississippi and a suporter of Hillary. No matter how hard I try I can not find a good enough reason to volt for Mr. Obama.
Sure, I would love to see a black man for president in my life time but my love for this country is stronger than volting on a person because of the color of their skin. I have fought for and got hurt for this country. I do not think that Mr. Obama is ready yet to be president. I think he will be one day but not now. Although I have always voted for a Democrate all my life, I will vote for Mr. Mccain because I think he has the experience and dedication to be president…
Just a old solders’thoughts

Posted by: Commander | August 25, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

Obama is nominee because of superdelegates, let’s not forget that fact. He also lost the popular vote (at best it was even). Clearly 18 million people voted “not Obama”. 18 million also voted “not Hillary”. Only the quirky counting of caucus delegates made the difference.
That said, it was clear Obama got his support from the left side of the party and they were NEVER going to vote McCain. We always knew Hillary was more of a centrist. Some of her followers were ALWAYS going to move away from the liberal. That’s all there is to it.

Posted by: Johnson | August 25, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

I for the life of me can not understand this cult or movement for “so called change.” All of these sheep-like Whites are falling in love with this guy based on what? The guy has said and done absolutely nothing at all. Listen to his speeches, everything he says is obviously rehearsed and he always speaks in generalities. Name one specific policy this c**n has laid out? No one can.
McCain/08

Posted by: JA | August 25, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Boy it’s sad that Clinton supporters have stooped to the lowest denominator by claiming that Obama’s supporters have made racist and sexist remarks, by tagging the Obamas with racist and sexist remarks..
All of these people who claim they’re Democrats who are voting for McCain should trot righ ton over to Fox News where Howard Wolfson, Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity will welcome them with open arms..
But to blather on and on about how Hillary didn’t get this or she didn’t get that, over two months since she lost the primary, is just down right stupid!!
PUMA=Faux Democrat/Undercover Republican

Posted by: Jennifer | August 25, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

I’m so glad that there are so many PUMA’s here! I’m so pissed off that Hillary lost that I’m going to vote for McCain so that all women can be forced to use back alley abortions. That is the perfectly reasonable thing to do.

Posted by: Jane | August 25, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

So many hypocrites on both sides of this. It’s embarrassing to be associated with this party.
If the roles were reversed, and Sen. Clinton, had won by a razor thin margin, BHO supporters would be saying the Clinton Machine fixed the election, claiming that racism tipped the scales against their guy, and threatening to protest in Denver.
And current PUMA types would be calling them all whiners and telling them to get over it.
BHO supporters would swear their 18 million voices will not be silenced.
HRC devotees would point out that, policy wise, they should just get on board with Hill if they want their issues heard.
And yet so so many of the hysterical people on either side completely fail to see that.
Alas.

Posted by: Sammy | August 25, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

What will you so called, “PUMA=Faux Democrat/Undercover Republicans” say after McCain gets a Bush III term.
Oh, I’m sorry, I thought I was voting for Hillary!!!!

Posted by: geevill | August 25, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

I’m a former Clinton supporter who’s leaning to McCain myself (we’ve seen how an unqualified president can mess things up, what difference does it make if he’s a Democrat?). If McCain has the guts to pick his friend Lieberman as his running mate like he really wants to do he’s got my vote 100% Obama may talk about bridging partisan gulfs but McCain has actually done it. Look at who McCain hangs around with vs. Obama.

Posted by: Rob | August 25, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

Oh geesh, these PODs are saying hurtful things. Wahhh! We were never dems! We don’t care about the supreme court! Oh woe is me!
The DNC under Howard Dean and Donna The Brazilian is no longer the democratic party, it’s the Obama Party. We were never part of that. That is the one that brings the race card up each and everytime. That is the inexperienced and unvetted one. I switched to the Independent Party right after Clinton suspended her campaign. You want to be fair then have an honest open roll call…not one where Clinton delegates are being replaced with Obama delegates. The supreme court? Doesn’t the Senate have to approve of the nominee. We got Alito and Roberts BECAUSE the dems agreed to them, not because of which party was in power in the executive branch.
McCain in ’08! He’ll have to work with the dem senate and dem congress. There’s your bipartisanship!

Posted by: NYSmike | August 25, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

These paid McCain posters are transparent. They’re hoping to take McCain’s worst characteristics and slap Obama’s name on them. Can’t speak. No real agenda. Corrupted by lobbyists. Votes that benefit corporate interests more than the middle class. Despised by Hillary supporters. Lacking any real knowledge of foreign policy. Who do you really think those characteristics refer to?

Posted by: Rollo | August 25, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Who knew that so many Clinton supporters are bigoted against black men or were so stupid.

Posted by: Mick Lewis | August 25, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

I love how I get called an elitist, and then two posts later get called a stupid moron who’s just too stupid to know he’s been duped by a cult leader.
Is there a more elitist argument in the book than “you’re too stupid to know better”?

Posted by: Yawn | August 25, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

Just out of curiosity, can one Clinton supporter who is supporting McCain please tell me what policy decision they are basing their vote on? The candidates were 98% similar and both are huge improvements (in my opinion) over McCain. If you are a Republican, all I can say is that I disagree with you. If you were a Clinton voter who is now voting for McCain, I’m just perplexed and taken aback. Clinton and Obama held all of the same views. It isn’t the politicans who are ruining this country, its stupid voters who vote based upon whether they ‘like’ someone rather than the issues.

Posted by: Andrew | August 25, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

I think it’s getting so oooooolllddddd already that the Obama supporters are blaming Hillary for Obama not getting more of Hillary supporters behind him. Have you seen his campaign in the past two and a half months? Can you clearly see that the guy doesn’t know what the hell he is doing? Did you see the big photo op trip abroad? Did you see his many flip flops on issues? Did you see how he picked a guy who has like 35 years in the senate to work under him to highlight the fact that he only has four and has NO foreign affairs experience!!! Stop blaming Hillary! Blame Obama! He’s not ready to be Presdient. We don’t want to vote for him, not because we’re bitter, because we need someone who can handle our problems. And Obama is not that person. So stop blaming Hillary and tell your guy to do his homework, get some guts, and take McCain up on some more debates, put down his speeches and show America if he can handle the REAL DEAL UNSCRIPTED!!!

Posted by: harry2 | August 25, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

Democrats for McCain . . .
Oh, that’s brilliant.
How about Democrats for Republicans, or
Pro-Choice for Pro-Life, or
Peace Lovers for War

Posted by: Avstown | August 25, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

I am not voting for Obama because I am mad at how Hillary was treated or how lowsy the Kool-aid drinkers treated Hillary supporters.
I am not voting for Obama because he is the worst candidate in history. Pretty bad when you trust a Republican to do a better job then a Democrat.
If Obama looses it won’t be because of Clinton – it will be because of no Clinton on the ticket.
The DNC screwed up the first time and then they turned around and screwed up again!!! Screw me once shame on me. Screw me twice – Screw the new DNC!!

Posted by: Carol 17 | August 25, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

I actually really feel bad for Hillary. After such a great campaign, where she managed to redefine her negative national image, she doesn’t deserve these types of “supporters”. These PUMAs are now deemed to represent their former candidate when they, in fact, do not share most of her priorities (based on the fact that she supports Obama and the basic Dem party platform, and they support pro-war, anti-choice, pro-trickle down McCain).

Posted by: Poor Hillary | August 25, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

It’s pretty funny.I’ve never seen a comment on any of these sites that have explained why I should vote for Obama as a Hillary supporter. I am a man, but it’s always:
1. You are not voting for Obama because you are bitter and are a woman.
2. Hillary and Obama share thesame views so you should vote for Obama.
or the very common -
3. You are voting for Obama because you are racist.
I have been on these sites for months and no Obama supporter has listed his political accomplishments, just his, without a question of anyone elses, as a reason to vote for him.
It’s always an accusation of why I’m not voting for him rather or just because they share the same views, but it’s never about his political national and/or international policial achievements. Though I do hear the word Change a lot.

Posted by: yeah yeah | August 25, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

I’m a Democrat shaking the DNC dust off my feet as I gladly leave the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Jan | August 25, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

I’m with y’all! Just say Nobama! I haven’t voted for a Democrat since they chased Gary Hart out of the race back in 1984. I have complete loyalty to Senator Hart and he would have been the greatest President in our nation’s history!!!
I’ve voted for Bush Sr (twice), Dole, and W (twice) in each of the elections since. They don’t necessarily share my views on taxation, separation of church and state, a woman’s right to choose, supply side economics, the role of goverment in our society, or the importance of the Bill of Rights. But I swore I’d never be a part of the Anti-Hart Party and I never will!
Stay strong PUMAs!!

Posted by: I'm With You | August 25, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

President Obama — the pions are running scared. Don’t worry you have your own 18 million plus voters. There is nothing Satan (HRC), Repigs, or anyone else can do to stop you. NOTHING!!!!!
OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA!!!! YEAH BABY. WE WILL FINALLY HAVE A PRESIDENT WITH AN IQ HIGHER THAN 2!!!!!!!!!!!
OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA

Posted by: Shianne | August 25, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA
YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, AND YES WE WILL!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Shianne | August 25, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Yeah, Yeah
So Senator Obama doesn’t have the resume you think he should have. He has been in the US senate only during Bush Jr second term and well there have not been many major accomplishments from any Senator. It is not about the past with him it is about the future. There is something to be said about leadership qualities. Have you read any of Senator Obamas books? If so then you should know how he thinks about things if not then you should read his writings and educate yourself about the next President of the US.

Posted by: Mick Lewis | August 25, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

HILLARY SUPPORTERS FOR McCAIN?? ARE YOU FLAMING KIDDING ME? I supported Hillary but would not vote for a Republican even with a red hot poker pointed at me! Are you seriously voting McCain through spite?! I am a non-believer. I believe most of these so-called Hillary for McCain jobs are republicans trolling for their guy. NO WAY IN GOD’S GREEN EARTH WILL I – A HILLARY SUPPORTER – VOTE MCCAIN!

Posted by: DiannaD | August 25, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Jan — we don’t want you or NEED you.
OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA
YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, AND YES WE WILL!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Shianne | August 25, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

What the St. Hillary Cult fails to mention at the Sour Grapes Festival is that 49% of the electorate would never, under any circumstances, vote for her in a general election. Period.
If HRC had been nominated, the Republicans would have brought up every scandal, gaffe and mistake both she and Bill ever made. She would have been unable to win even one Southern state.
These are the actual FACTS — something the HRC crowd, in their mass adulation of a flawed candidate, can’t seem to grasp.

Posted by: vernon patterson | August 25, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

DiannaD — to be honest I was never a Hillary supporter. Frankly she detests me, however, if she would have won the nomination, as a REAL Dem, there is no doubt I would hold my nose and vote for her. No doubt whatsoever. Afterall, as a Dem Hillary would stand for what I believe in.
To call yourself a Dem and vote for McStupid is a vote against Obama based on what? I’m sure I know what the “what” is — as Pat Buchanan says “he’s not one of us”. Call it for what is really is.
OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA
YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, AND YES WE WILL!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Shianne | August 25, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

Boy, the Rethuglican trolls are out in force here! I know MANY, MANY people who voted for Hillary, and not one of them is voting for McCain. Most of these “supposed” Hillary supporters are trolls. Boy, you Rethuglicans must think Hillary’s supporters just fell off the turnip truck. The GOP gets more like Nazis every day.

Posted by: Margaret | August 25, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

Obama needs to be more gracious to Bill Clinton..they have treated him like crap.. He had a 62% favorable rating when he left office..until Obama gets anytwhere close to that…respect what is the best Democrat in history of our times
hillaryisourchoice.com

Posted by: MM | August 25, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

P.uppets
U.nder
M.cCain’s
A.dministration

Posted by: yeaaaahhhhh | August 25, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Vernon Patterson — could not have said it better myself.
What the “cult” does not understand is that their “idol” will be BLAMED if Barack loses. Fair or unfair, that is what is going to happen and her career will be over. She WILL NEVER win the Dem nomination let alone the general election. She will be looked upon as a traitor, poison.
She and her silly hubby are pissed that this junior Senator kicked their asses! He deserves the nomination and will win the general election. The American people will no longer sit idly by and watch Repigs or STUPID, SPITEFUL, so-called Dems, which I do not believe they are at all, take this election from this man.
OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA
YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, AND YES WE WILL!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Shianne | August 25, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Respect is EARNED not GIVEN. They, meaning the Almighty Clintons, are NOT the face of the Democratic party anymore.
Barack — keep doing as you are. Show them you will NOT cower to there every whim.
Respect Bill Clinton my a@%! Respect this 47 year old young man who has a different plann for this country. Bill is JEALOUS and he is too stupid to hide it. As usual its all about the Clintons, but not this time, not this year, not with Barack.
OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA
YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, AND YES WE WILL!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Shianne | August 25, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Obama will bring hope and change… by losing to John McCain in the general election.
Sorry but I don’t buy the “soak the rich to help the poor” spiel from a guy who lets his own brother live on $1 a month in a 6*9 foot tin shack while he lounges in his two million dollar mansion with a $4.2 million dollar income.
Lets also mention that Obama donates 2% of his income to charity, 1/9th of the normal for his income level and nearly all of it to Trinity (God D**n America) Baptist Church. John McCain donates over 25% of his income to charity.
Actions > Words

Posted by: Eagle | August 25, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Who fricking cares?
If Obama wins, the Democrats get a chance to screw up the country in their own original way. This time, they get to go REALLY far left, lead by Soros and his fellow Marxists.
If McCain wins, the Democrats get a chance to screw up the country, but they get to
1. use McCain as both cover and a scapegoat when he goes along with some of their schemes.
2. rely on McCain’s tight-wad tendencies to save Democrats from themselves – McCain would force the Democrats to act with some degree of fiscal responsibility, much like the GOP congress brought out the BEST in Bubba Clinton.
The best thing for America would be divided government, but the best thing for the GOP would likely be the Democratic meltdown that will most assuredly follow an Obama victory.

Posted by: stickety | August 25, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

NO to Obama!
I am a Hillary Clinton Democrat, voting Republican for the first time, and proud
to declare my support for Sen. McCain as the next President of the United States!

Posted by: lola | August 25, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

All you Hillary supporters why don’t you ask McCain that if her cares so much about you why doesn’t he offer his VP slot to her? Last time I checked, he still had not picked his vp. You won’t ask because you know he would never do it.
Sen. Obama has made all kinds of concessions to Hillary and her supporters and they say they still won’t support him. Sen. McCain hasn’t done and thing and won’t, yet these HRC supporters are going to give him their vote. They are all some sorry excuses for Democrats. Pathetic and sorry and bitter.

Posted by: Vernon | August 25, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

EVERYONE! There is NO SIGNIFICANT CONTINGENT of former HRC voters that will vote McCain! The two candidates are diametrically opposed on every issue. They are paid staffers, that are ignorant and sexist to boot!

Posted by: jd | August 25, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

I’ll be showing my support for Hillary by voting for McCain in Nov. We will be heard! No amount of arm twisting from the DNC, Obama, Polosi, Brazille, and Obama’s nasty supporters will change our minds. There will be no unity, no one to blame but you all.

Posted by: Dee-GA | August 25, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

I would never vote for NObama. Democrat for McCain.

Posted by: Jimmy | August 25, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Eagle — oh yeah he is responsible for his brothers plite. The brother that admires him. You are pitiful soul. You are what is SO wrong with this country.
McStupid does not know how many houses him and his wife have! Get real you silly FOOL.
Oh my goodness Rev W. Who is he?
Climb back under your rock dude.

Posted by: Shianne | August 25, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Hillary’s delusion that she won the popular vote (she did only if one throws in Michigan, where Obama wasn’t on the ballot, and Florida, where he agreed not to campaign) has taken on an obsessive life of its own, in her own mind.
She may appeal for unity, but you can bet that in the bowels of her cold heart, she still believes she was robbed/

Posted by: Greg A | August 25, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Yeah Yeah.
In his first two years as a US Senator, Barack Obama authored or sponsored 37 bills including:
Four bills pertaining to congressional ethics reform
Multiple bills aimed at protecting our health, our children’s health, and environment including:
- Lead-Free Toys Act to require the Consumer Product Safety Commission to ban any children’s product containing lead
- Mercury Market Minimization Act and the Missing Mercury in Manufacturing Monitoring and Mitigation Act which would significantly reduce the amount of mercury that is deposited in oceans, lakes, and rivers, which in turn would reduce the amount of mercury in fish
In terms of national security Obama (and Senator Lugar) introduced a bill in which funding would be provided to eliminate unsecured conventional weapons and assist countries in improving their ability to detect and interdict materials and weapons of mass destruction. He also introduced bills to increase security of chemical plans, drinking water supplies, rail transit, and spent nuclear waste.
He passed and sponsored legislation to provide for adequate attention and healthcare for our troops including:
- providing electronic medical databases for troops to help them transition to the VA care system,
- requiring traumatic brain injury to be evaluated on troops returning home
- funding to help prevent meth addiction among combat troops
- providing better healthcare for veterans and housing for homeless veterans
Co-sponsored two bills to help register and track sex offenders and notify the public of their presence, and another to extend the Violence Against Woman Act.
He played a key role in the crafting of the Senate Immigration Bill that provides more funds and technology for border security, and offered three amendments included in the bill that strengthens the requirement that a job be offered at a prevailing wage to American workers before it is offered to a guestworker; makes it simple, but mandatory, for employers to verify that their employees are legally eligible to work in the US; and authorizes $3 million a year for the FBI to improve the speed and accuracy of the background checks required for immigrants seeking to become citizens.
He has sponsored multiple bills to help aid and reform primary, secondary, and post-secondary education to address achievement gaps.
And he has sponsored bills increasing our readiness and response to disasters such as Hurricane Katrina.
Not to mention that he performed all of this as a Freshman Senator ranked 99th and 98th in seniority.
How’s that for a resume?

Posted by: avstown | August 25, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Lola, Dee-GA, and Jimmy — we don’t want your KIND, nor do we NEED you. Now go and change your soiled pampers!!!

Posted by: Shianne | August 25, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

So, all of you Clinton supporters who are voting for McCain?
Are you pro-life?
Are you wholeheartedly in support of the Iraq war?
Are you a supporter of big oil?
Do you agree with the NRA’s platform?
Do you advocate extended tax cuts for the richest Americans?
Do you support a tax on the middle class in the form of employee-financed health care?
I hope you answered “yes” to all of these questions, because that is what you will get when you vote McCain.

Posted by: Chris | August 25, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

if Rosie O’Donnell comes out for Obama during the convention, McCain goes up by 5 points

Posted by: Jeff | August 25, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

I can’t believe what I’m reading…please tell me my eyes are playing tricks on me. How on earth can a democrat vote for a republican in 2008. I wonder if these ‘so called’ Hillary supporters were ever really Dems. Voting for a Rep right now with so much at stake, I just don’t understand it. It pains me to say this but I would have so much more respect for my ‘Hillary supporters’ if they would just say what the real issue is…you don’t want to put a person of color in the white house. I’d much rather hear them say that then be the typical ‘bitter woman’ that didn’t get her way. I know the race card is not what you want to hear and it pains me to even put it in writing, but how else can the economy be in the toilet, Dems in the house/senate in record numbers-obviously a slap in the face of Bush, Bush’s ratings as low as they are and your voting for McCain. Are you seriously willing to have McCain elect a Supreme Court Justice-the thought alone frightens me. Do you want your children who are so blessed not to see color yet-do you want them to see how your fear, dislike or whatever it is gave them 8 more years of Bush. The issues are so much more important to this Democrat and I can honestly say I was a Hillary supporter and Obama had to earn my vote just like Hillary did-she doesn’t get a pass b/c her husband was Pres., my vote isn’t cheap and it isn’t easily swayed by Rep. double talk. Hillary ran a good champaign she was a tough candidate, but she lost and it’s over. I bet the Reps are having a great time with this, instead of pulling the wool over our eyes with the dreaded same sex marriage and ‘we love God you don’t b/c your pro choice’ they’ve once again already won…b/c Dems are so easily swayed. Obama’s record while not as long as her’s in Congress (b/c that’s what we should go on I would not consider Mrs. Bush b/c she was married to a Pres)is very much the same have you even compared the two they’re the same Have you looked at McCain’s voting record, seriously a Dem would not vote for this man. I just can’t figure this one out, I’m really confused what a beautiful thing it could be if we were truly a united party…I just wonder if we would have this same problem if we were voting for ‘Barry Oswald’ a 2 term senator from Delaware….don’t you?

Posted by: La | August 25, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

La I am a person of color so that’s not an issue for me. Hillary was treated poorly and cheated out of the nomination by the DNC, Dean, Polosi, Obama, Brazille, and all of you supporters of Obama did nothing but bash Hillary the whole time she was winning. They did everything they could to keep Florida and Michigan from counting so that the annointed one Obama could win. We Will be heard in November. We will vote for McCain. You people just thought we’d roll over and vote for a man we don’t trust, Mr. Obama after you got rid of Hillary? No way, not going to happen. In my opinion Obama is another Bush term and I will vote for the candidate that could do the job and that’s McCain since you all railroaded Hillary out.

Posted by: Dee-Ga | August 25, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

Don’t be fooled people: These ‘Hillary voters for McCain’ commenters are just GOP trolls. Remember: Keep moving toward the light. McCain claims to be an honorable man, but his campaign shows otherwise. A grave disappointment. I worry for his fragile mental state.

Posted by: Scott in PacNW | August 25, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

Can any Clinton-turned-McCain supporter explain how McCain’s health care policy, economic policy or foreign policy in any way differs from Bush’s?

Posted by: Harris | August 25, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

Harris: It is not about issues anymore, it is about saving and protecting our country against Obama and the DNC party. Country First, party second.
When I read Obama-Biden, Osama Bin Laden when through my mind. Did you know that Obama has planned for the president of the Islamic Society of North America to speak at the DNC next week? Islamic Speaker unindicted co-conspirator in terrorism trial
Read for yourself: http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2008/08/dncs-islamic-speakerned.html
Lawsuit filed today against Obama and DNC. Obama not U.S. Citizen- Lawsuit filed- Enjoin DNC
http://www.obamacrimes.com/

Posted by: willie | August 25, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Clinton supporters are vowing to vote for someone who has promised to pack the Supreme Court with Scalia/Thomas justices, keep our troops in Iraq indefinitely, increase Bush’s tax cuts for the most wealthy .01% and expand off-shore drilling…all out of spite! No wonder we are the same country who voted for two terms of Bush.

Posted by: Harris | August 25, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

Now, the news is saying Obama picks reminded them of Bush/Cheney. Well people look what we got from Bush’s pick for VP. Bush with “0″ experience (Bush/Obama) and VP with strong milliary experience ( Biden.Cheney) and a bad war, no jobs, no money, etc. Bush lets Cheney run the White House because he could not. Do Obama picked of VP want to be compared to Bush/Cheney. I am sorry to say but they are right, Obama/Biden and Bush/Cheney are similar.

Posted by: larry | August 25, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Obama is the worst choice for President ever. He is inexperienced, arrogant, smug, and black.

Posted by: J | August 25, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

Country first indeed. If Clinton were the nominee, I’d vote for her. And if John McCain said he would protect a woman’s right to choose (not threaten it), reverse the economic policies of Bush (not expand them) and end the destructive conflict in Iraq (not prolong it) then I would vote for McCain. I don’t care what letter is next to a candidate’s their name.

Posted by: Harris | August 25, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

It should be self-evident to any fair person that it is not Hillary’s responsibility to persuade her primary voters to support Obama. It is Obama who needs to attract these voters and convince them he deserves their vote. So far, he has been doing a lousy job in that regard.
We keep seeing a manifest display of the “blame-Hillary-syndrome” that the MSM and Obama supporters seem to suffer from. That’s evidently unfair to Hillary. Let’s be clear, if Obama loses in November it will be due to an exceedingly inept DNC promoting the weakest candidate in memory.

Posted by: All4America | August 25, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

I love Hillary!!! YAY!!! Vote for McCain!!!!

Posted by: Pauli | August 25, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA! Never Voted Republican In All My MANY MANY Years Of Voting ! This Time I MUST!

Posted by: Justinin Time | August 25, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

Democrat for McCain!!!!!!!

Posted by: keith1212 | August 25, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

I agree with “Alice”….this is no longer about Hillary….it is about not voting for an empty suit. Obama and his Rev. Wright, Terrorist friend Ayers, strange dealings with Larry Sinclair, Crooked Rezko, and a wife who made a personal attack on Hillary Clinton during the campaign for the nomination (I personally feel that Michelle Obama is the racist in this matter.) I thank God that HRC is NOT the choice for VP because it would break my heart to vote against her in the general election, but I would if Obama is on top of the ticket. God Bless America and God Bless McCain.

Posted by: Janbitt | August 25, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Willie, I read the lawsuit against Barrack Hussein Obama, Barry Soeroes, Barry Dunham, etc.. The evidence does look very damning for Obama or whatever his name is. What were the Democrats thinking? I guess they weren’t, either that or they haven’t read the Constitution of the United States, where it states you must be a natural born citizen of the United States to be eligible to be president.

Posted by: S Adams | August 25, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

I voted for Clinton in the primary because I believe for the values she championed. Yes, I’d rather vote for Clinton than Obama, but I’m not going to risk a woman’s right to choose, America’s standing in the world and the economy just so I can I say “I told you so!” Cut off my nose to spite my face? What am I, a twelve years old?

Posted by: harris | August 25, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

I am a Hillary supporter and cannot for the life of me vote for Obama. If he comes back in 10 years and can show what else he has done beside community organizing, maybe!
I am voting for McCain.
Baba

Posted by: babarum | August 25, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

Hillary not getting the nomination doesn’t suddenly boost Obama’s qualification to be president. Picking Biden as his veep is his admission that he lacks the experience to be president. The problem with the Obama-Biden ticket is that the wrong man is at the top of it.
I am one of those Democrats who will be voting for McCain no matter what any of the Dem leaders say. We voters are not sheep who can be told what to do.

Posted by: Nick | August 25, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

I think a lot of Dems are midguided about the abortion issue. If that is the only reason you are voting for Obama it is weak. Unfortunately Roe v Wade is here to stay. The only difference between the party’s positions is Obama thinks it’s okay to have late term abortions and if the baby lives through the horrible, painful procedure, let it die. McCain plans on stopping any bills that focus on late term and partial abortions.

Posted by: S Adams | August 25, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

I admire Sen Obama’s audacity and self promotion. I understand his unwillingness to commit himself to any specific plan or ideas other than the vast, emotional conept of *hope*and *change*. I have followed politics for over 65 years and I can’t remember any election on any level where anyone ever said they were opposed to hope or change.

I think Joe Biden is a great runnning mate for a man who has no accomplishments in any position he ever held. Biden is a career Washington politician. He knows Washington and its players. His son is a lobbyist. He has been in the Senate since the ’70′s.
I don’t agree with John Mc Cain on much but I intend to vote for him. If Obama shows that he can be a capable Senator and actually do anything other than promote his career interests I may consider him in the future.(Right now I think he is a phony and insincere. For example, his short lived but much heralded public service stint is hardly heroic sacrifice. Only a fool with political aspirations works in a high paying law job. Everyone goes the public service route. That is the way to political office.
I am concerned that the media pays so little attention to what the Obama’s have actually done and the connections that have brought them to this point. And, I will never vote for him in this election because of Hillary Clinton. Obama was annointed by the male liberals in the Democrat Party in order to side rail Clinton.
And, what on earth did the Clinton’s do to Caroline and Ted Kennedy to cause her vicious support of Obama? Did they bill her for the recovery of her brother’s body from the ocean by taxpayer funded Naval vessels?

Posted by: not as smart as you | August 25, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

not as smart as you: John Kerry and Al Gore lost the race to the White House becasue they did not want to assoicated with the Clintons. Now, we will add Obama to the list.

Posted by: willie | August 25, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

I think we should note that McCain has a staff of paid bloggers putting anti-Obama stuff on blogs all over the internet. If didn’t there would be few pro-McCain messages on these type boards.

Posted by: Rich | August 25, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Rich,
I think the same about Obama supporters sometimes. Frankly, I think these blogs represent fears that people have with both party’s.

Posted by: S Adams | August 25, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Barack Obama will win without the help of Hillary’s supporters. It will be close but he will win. Clinton’s supporters were going to support McCain regardless of Hillary being chosen as VP. They cannot accept that when you compete two things could happen… you either win or loose, and she lost. Instead of complaining why don’t just give 1 dollar each to Hillary Clinton and that would pay off her debt ($18 million dollars/one per puma). Vote for McCain or whoever you want to vote for, and if you hate Obama so much just stop reading articles about him. SIMPLE !!!

Posted by: Miguel | August 25, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

No presidential contender has ever been held to this standard. Ever.
Hillary did not fight to the convention as her predecesors have. Hillary endorsed Obama for President within days of his getting the Super Delegates’ support, months before he will officially clinch the nomination.
Hillary has gone out campaigning for him long before her predecessors every supported their rivals. She has said all the right things time after time to support him. She has offerred to campaign anywhere any time for him.
These constant attacks on her are despicable. You people will never be happy no matter what she does. She has behaved graciously as a consumate party loyalist. Nothing short of her slitting her wrists and apologizing for ever having dared to run against the messiah will satisfy the monstrous ego of Obama and his supporters.
Leave the woman alone already. She’s done everything she can to deliver our votes. Now it’s his turn to go out and EARN them.

Posted by: michaelp0429 | August 25, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

All of these whiny women…no one supported Clinton as rabidly as women….it’s like their entitled!

Posted by: Whine whine whine | August 25, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

I’m a Hillary supporter for McCain and I’m not being childish about it. It am sickened that for the first time in my life I won’t be voting for a Democrat. But here’s the problem – I am a MODERATE Democrat who puts country before party.
If this were a sporting event, I’d be supporting my team no matter what, but this isn’t American Idol it’s the Presidency of the United States of America and the Dems just nominated a grossly underqualified ego maniac who lies constantly, tries to hold all sides of all issues at all times depending on which audience he is speaking to and who plays the dirtiest politics right out of the Republican play book while spewing empty placating rhetoric of hope, and change and unity despite having never done anything to achieve any of those lofty goals.
I dearly, dearly wish Obama was the man I thought he was in 2004 when I saw him run for Illinois Senate. But unfortunately he is not.
This Clinton Dem will vote for the only moderate left in this race, the man who is just barely across the other side of the aisle from me. The man who fought against all of Bush’s greatest mistakes, showing wisdom and political courage. I will not vote for the ultra liberal who has never achieved anything other than getting elected.
On the contingency from far right to far left, this Democrat stands far closer to McCain than Obama.
I’m sorry you Obama fantics can’t understand that from your extreme left position. But please stop insulting us as being childish. It’s a rather rediculous argument – that we should just blindly support the Democrat no matter how incompetent they may be – coming from supporters of the man who claims to believe in a post-partisan politics. It also shows that many Obama supporters have absolutely no clue how to reach out to those with whom they disagree – a critical skill for those who would lead.

Posted by: michaelp0429 | August 25, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Sammy,
You are dead wrong. Clinton never threatened that her supporters would not support Obama (as Obama did).
Had she won, she would have offerred the VP slot to Obama, or at the very least asked his oppinion of it.
Had she won she would never have started blaming Obama for her eventual loss as Obama’s supporters have been blaming Clinton since MARCH.
Had she won, whether for decency or triangulation, she would have pushed her backers to retire his debt.
Had she won she would have immediately reached out to his voters by publicly and repeatedly praising him and applauding those of us who voted for him.
Had she won, she would have incorporated as many leaders from his movement into her team to promote unity.
The Clintons are professional politicians. Through that they have learned much about how these things are done. Obama is just now learning them as he goes.
True, some people would still complain, in an election this close it is NATURAL that there are some hard feelings. That is why the WINNER is supposed to be gracious and accomodating to the LOSER – because they want their votes and need to unify the party.

Posted by: michaelp0429 | August 25, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

Hoo-ahh,
Regarding your assertion that a vote for McCain is a vote for Big Oil running our energy policy – let me remind you that OBAMA is the only candidate of the three (McCain, Clinton and Obama) who voted for that BUSH CHENEY Energy bill that was written behind closed doors by ENRON.
The fact that Obama decry’s that deal but HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO VOTED FOR IT is just one of the hypocritical lies that makes it impossible for me to vote for him. That he goes further and accused both of THEM of being bought and paid for by oil companies – when he’s the only one who supported Bush on this crap bill – makes me hate him as a complete and utter con artist with no integrity whatsoever who plays the dirtiest of politics the Republicans ever came up with.
I supported Clinton and now McCain becuase they both had the integrity to vote againt the multi-billion dollar give-away to the big oil companies.
Just because your candidate lies about these facts is no reason for you to spread them as well.

Posted by: michaelp0429 | August 25, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

avvston,
You are inflating Obama’s resume. I’ll pick just one example:
While it is true that Obama worked on the Immigration reform bill, (with John McCain, btw), once the bill met any kind of popular resistance, Obama pulled his support of the bill and backed away from it infuriating almost everyone who worked on the bill.
Some leadership.

Posted by: michaelp0429 | August 25, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Mick Lewis,
I’ve read both of Obama’s books, read his wife’s college thesis and done a great deal of research on this campaign as well as Obama’s time in the Illinois Senate.
When I saw him give his speach in 2004 I was thrilled and so pleased because I was certain I was looking at the first black president. Unfortunately, in the years since I’ve learned that he has never, ever done anything that supports his pretty speaches. Instead I’ve found a past full of racial politics, cynism and the dirtiest of machine politics.
You have to go beyond looking at what the candidates say when they are trying to win your vote. Anyone can SAY the right things. For me I need someone with any evidence that they have or ever will DO the right things. Obama has no such record, in fact, his record is much the opposite.

Posted by: michaelp0429 | August 25, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

La,
You are an ignorant and hateful person and the prototypical post of the sort of rubbish that has helped turn so many of us off about your candidate.
Whatever happened to “there is no Democratic America and there is no Repbulican America, there is only the United Stated of America?” Those words from your candidate meant something to me in 2004 when he said them. Too bad they didn’t really mean anything to you.
Obama is not only inexperienced but he has shown incredibly poor judgement again and again in this campaign. I cannot support him no matter how much I wish I was voting Democratic this time around.
His skin color is one of the few things that make me wish I could vote for him.

Posted by: michaelp0429 | August 25, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

Do the Kennedy family control or own the DNC party?

Posted by: willie | August 25, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

Dear Clinton Dem,
We are finally getting to the end of this brutal primary season. So many of us have gone from being simply “Democrats” to being political activists. Average american voters all over the country have been working hard to make sure that our voices are heard by a party that has lost it’s way.
A new documentary about fraud has been created that is extremely important to the future of our party. We are calling on you to to distribute this video to everyone in your address book, to delegates, and to any members of the media you have access to.
It is time for reform. It is time for party members to take a hard look in the mirror and ask themselves what being a Democrat means to them.
WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED!
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm
The Democratic party has a long history of selecting nominees that do not represent the majority of Americans in this country, despite having core principles that tend to benefit those very Americans. Once again, despite factors swinging to favor Democrats, our party seems destined to choose a losing candidate.
The fatally-flawed caucus system essentially throws the core value of “one person, one vote” under the bus, and it apparently has been manipulated to advantage Obama over Hillary Clinton.
Clinton Democrats have been sounding the alarm since Iowa about the manipulation of the process and where it would lead. The super delegate system was created in order to avert disaster in case the nominating system produced a candidate with no chance of winning. Of course, that system was created with the hope that integrity, principles and backbone would rule the day and delegates might vote their conscience. Fat chance.
We have not given up on Hillary’s chances at the convention for a meaningful roll call vote. However, if past actions are an indication of future outcomes, the die may already be cast.
We will not quit fighting. Whatever the outcome in Denver, we will carry on. Our transformation to activist is complete. There are huge challenges ahead and we, the (unpaid) lobbyists for the American people, have an important role in the future of this country.
We may not have the big hairy dollars of corporate America, but we still have our votes. Let’s spend them wisely. Stay involved and pledge to only support candidates that represent you…and pledge to toss out the legislators that do not.

Posted by: Al from NJ | August 25, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

America…….you do have more than two options on election day.
You have a write in vote on the machine or that piece of paper on election day…….USE YOUR WRITE IN VOTE AMERICA!!!!!!!
Type or write in Hillary Clinton on election day.
It is the only way to save this great nation of ours. The old man and the pre-schooler are not this country’s only choices on election day.
Again, select the “Write in” button on your voting machine or paper ballot and type/write-in Hillary Clinton.
Do it for your children’s future…..do it to save this country today!!!!!

Posted by: Linda R. in Virginia | August 25, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

‘Harris’ asked above how McCain was any different than Bush on three broad categories. Here’s my reply.
On Health Care:
Sen. McCain proposes a $5,000 tax credit to allow families to buy their own private health care plans and requiring that pre-existing conditions not disqualify people from getting them.
This would allow most of the 17 million people currently uninsured to get private health care. Bush has never even conceived of such a thing.
On the economy:
McCain is an actual fiscal conservative. Something Bush gave lip service to but never was.
Bush spends like a drunken sailor on shore leave, McCain has never in over two decades in the Senate asked for any earmarks for his state. McCain promises to veto any wasteful earmarks that come across his desk – Bush signed more into law than all of his predecesors combined.
McCain fought publicly against the Bush tax cuts which have helped bankrupt our country. Opponents will argue that he now is opposed to eliminating those tax cuts but as any economist will tell you – you never raise taxes durring an economic slowdown.
McCain fought against the 300 Billion dollar give-away for farm subsidies (in a year when farms are making record proffits, food costs are soaring around the world because of our subsidies for ethanal (which uses up food recourses that would otherwise feed the world’s hungry). Bush and Obama supported that wasteful spending.
McCain fought publicly and loudly against the Bush Cheney Energy bill. You know, the one that Obama loves to make fun of as having been written behind closed doors, the one that gave away BILLIONS in tax credits to the oil companies. McCain voted against that bill because he knew is was a corrupt give-away. Obama? Oh yeah, OBAMA VOTED FOR IT.
McCain is vastly supperior to Bush on the fiscal responsibility that is destroying our economy. Obama on the other hand has proposed an orgy of new spending that will only speed up our demise.
On Foreign Policy:
McCain, like Biden, voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq. This is true. Since then, however he has been right again and again when Bush has been wrong…
McCain criticized Bush early and loudy about the mistake of going into Iraq with too few troups, just as he fought Reagan about sending too few troups into Berlin in the early 80s. McCain citicized Bush about debathification and resolution of the army – the two central mistakes that caused all of our problems in Iraq.
McCain pushed Bush into finally adopting the Surge strategy which has snatched victory in Iraq out of the jaws of defeat. This is the single most important foreign policy decision since both men have been in the Senate and McCain was right while Obama was dead wrong. Thanks to McCain, we have a strategy for winning in Iraq and moving on to win in Afghanistan – the strategy Obama now advocates for Afghanistan.
On foreign policy, McCain knows the dangers of war – something that was lost on Bush – and he knows how to win them when we find ourselves in one. I love that Obama didn’t want us to go to war in Iraq, that’s great, but unfortunatley we now find ourselves in the middle of two critical wars and we need a President who knows how to win them, no matter how bad the decision was to get into one in the first place.
Shall I continue?
The complete and utter falacy that your messiah has sold to you is not true. Obama knows he can’t beat McCain so he is trying to run against Bush (who, btw is not running for President this year).

Posted by: michaelp0429 | August 26, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

I h
ave lost so much respect for hiliary,
she is showing she and bill are more about themselves then the party

Posted by: Betty | August 26, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

You said it, Debra!! I think you speak for many of us, and you do it well!
Love Hillary!!!

Posted by: Scott | August 26, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am

I think it’s the media that needs UNITY. You have scrambled and incorrectly portrayed every aspect of this election process.
Get over your hatred of the Clintons.
Her supporters are ready to move on…….
If the media is entitled to free speech so are we.
Yes, you are right we are supporting McCain because Hillary lost the primary but it has NOTHING to do with being bitter at Obama. I just do not believe Obama is the best candidate. He lacks experience, has poor judgement and is stuck on himself.

Posted by: rebecca | August 26, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am

You never raise taxes during an economic down period? Wasn’t that the same argument disproved by Bill Clinton after he took office during the rescission of the early 90s? Moreover, putting a band-aid on a broken health care system (a $5,000 tax credit?!) is hardly a substitute for universal coverage. What about McCain’s appointees to Supreme Court? Can you spin some magic pixie dust on that too, or do you now believe that a woman’s right to choose should not be constitutionally protected?

Posted by: harris | August 26, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

Dear folks who are mad at Obama enough to vote for McCain. I literally beg you not to do this. I don’t want my boys drafted (real possibility), and I am struggling to make ends meet. I can’t go 4 more years with a Republican president, who is not the least bit interested in me, my family or other families like mine.
My husband and I both work. I have 2 kids with severe learning disabilities and one with heart defects. My husband and I are skipping meals several times a week to make sure our kids get fed. We share a car that is falling apart.
You can be mad as hell at Obama, but think what will happen to me and millions like me if you vote for McCain. Gas prices have bumped up food prices, our rent has gone up since there are so many renters who have lost their homes. We are paying $1000 a month for health insurance when we add medical car copays and insurance payments. We make little, and we are really suffering.
McCain doesn’t care about my suffering, because he believes that trickle down economics works. It doesn’t, and my husband who works in a factory as a non-union employee knows it well.
People will be judged by whether hard times make them good to others or evil. Your refusing to commit to a democratic platform when times are this hard make this a real evil.

Posted by: jazzkitty1 | August 26, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

I am about to fall over laughing at White supremacy in women’s frocks. I was a Black woman in the “Woman’s Movement” in the 1970s. For years during the “Civil Rights Movement” the theme was “minorities and women”, then after White women, some of whom were tired of suburban life; some of whom HAD to work because those White husbands’ salaries were not stretching far enough, decided to take to the workplace. Magically, the theme changed to “women and minorities” as they learned how to co-opt the hard won gains of the Civil Rights Era. Turns out, it was not the “Women’s Movement,” but rather the “privileged Women’s Movement,” as Black women were supposed to be kicked to the curb, while White women –and their husbands, sons, and fathers, were to enjoy the nation’s bounty. Then came the demographic shift with “people of color,’ becoming competitive and professional, as well as soon to be the aggregated majority in the good ‘ole USA. Hillary was more than a symbol for the Women’s Movement — Hillary was the woman’s version of the “Great White Hope.” Witness she and Bill running up to Appalachia, WV, eastern KY, Ohio, PA and “coding” –”hard working White people.” Hillary should be hurt and beside herself as the REAL covers come off her supporters. The “Hillraisers” would rather abandon her –their so-called ideal– by voting for McCain –another old White man –rather than stick to the Democratic party where at least Hillary has a stake and can work with Obama to bring about some of the things Hillary wanted to see in her OWN presidency. This whole “Hillary Supporters for McCain,” is just another name for sore-losing White supremacists, who are pissed because a ba-a-a-ad, Black couple have risen to the top of the American Dream and their rise portends as much of a loss for White folks of a certain persuasion as the loss of the Confederacy. In another time, Missy Ann on the plantation would be trying to get Michelle to clean the house, as opposed to seeing her invite the Ambassadors and world royalty TO the White House. Sorry, girls — take your sorry, racist booties on over to the “wrinkled, old white haired dude.” Me? This ‘sistah’s’ going shopping for the inaugural gown so I can boogie. Toodle-loo!

Posted by: Kate | August 26, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

I’m sick of OB people playing the race card all the time. The more they do that, the worse they will get. American people are smart enough to see who is the most trusted to be elected.

Posted by: thinkagain | August 26, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

Hi from Asia. I don’t understand. What’s the big deal in recognizing roll call votes for Hillary at the DNC? I think she rightfully earned them. Why should she release her votes to Obama? That would be untruthful. Would the Democratic party want to gloss over the popular votes so that it would seem like a landslide victory for Obama? Obama has the numbers in delegate count anyway, and the nomination. So, what’s the fuss? I just can’t believe the disrespect and flak the Clintons are getting from some Obama supporters. Are these the kind of values that Obama supporters have, or of Democrats or, heaven forbid, of Americans? You wouldn’t see this among Asians. We may bicker and wrangle in our politics but we always respect our elders and those who came before us. We recognize and appreciate the fact that they helped build the way for us.

Posted by: derek tan | August 26, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

I cant believe some HRC supporters threatening to vote Replican cos their candidate didnt win..such sore losers, u should all hide your racist faces, this is 2008 not 1908!..SHAME ON U!!!

Posted by: Deji | August 26, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

Deji wrote: “I cant believe some HRC supporters threatening to vote Replican cos their candidate didnt win..such sore losers, u should all hide your racist faces, this is 2008 not 1908!..SHAME ON U!!!”
MOCKERY & NAME-CALLING… trademarks of the OBAMA campaign? BEWARE. Anger and hate must not have a place in the DNC. At least most decent Democrats, Clinton supporters included, are straightforward and logical in their criticisms.

Posted by: andrew | August 26, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

I agree with the name calling bit. That’s why I got turned off with Obama. He has this backhanded way of attacking opponents in his stump speeches. And he doesn’t tackle his critics head-on. He mocks them, backtrack out of the issue or let his people deal with the matter. It’s so NOT what a president should be. I think Obama is just motivated by ambition and is more concerned with his image.
Anyway most of his supporters are the same. Like the Kennedys. That’s a family that thinks they have the birthright to the Democratic Party. Even random supporters in here have the same arrogance and impudence to mock and name call those who oppose them like this comment that yeaaahhhh wrote about the Clintons: “She and her silly hubby are pissed that this junior Senator kicked their asses! He deserves the nomination and will win the general election. The American people will no longer sit idly by and watch Repigs or STUPID, SPITEFUL, so-called Dems, which I do not believe they are at all, take this election from this man.
OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA
YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, AND YES WE WILL!!!!!!!!”
THIS IS REALLY DISTURBING.

Posted by: red_rose | August 26, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

yeah. i find that disturbing too. no wonder some see it like a cult following. its because of over zealous supporters. and the obamas handling of criticisms isnt much help either. get some balls man and face your critics head on. image is nothing. courage is everything if you intend to change things.

Posted by: no to fascism | August 26, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

I own my vote–Hillary doesn’t. If Hillary had NEVER been on the scene, I would have supported ANYBODY but Obama. I don’t like his style of politics. I don’t like his associates. I just flat out don’t like him. I don’t want a Chicago style politician in the Whitehouse. I don’t want a racist in the Whitehouse. I don’t want another person who supports wiretapping in the Whitehouse.

Posted by: JKIR | August 26, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

I must be losing my mind! I am a 40 year Republican who is tired of the path we have been on for the past 8 years. I see John McCain as a continuation of the same plan with minor variations. So I started studying what was available on the Democratic ticket. What was obvious was “the first viable woman candidate” and “the first black candidate”. I am very interested in what a woman could bring to the presidency. I am equally excited by what a black man could bring to the office. I watched the primaries and thought I was watching a horror show as each democratic candidate trashed the other as if nothing important was up for grabs. When Obama won, I watched as Clinton wouldn’t concede. It was like watching a political stalker who just won’t go away. Now the convention is here and Clinton in interviews is still reminding people how many votes she got! Sure, a roll call is a historical part but the purpose or effect of this roll call is to underline the fact that one side has not joined the goal of the entire party. Regardless of who you favored, both candidates AGREE on most of the Democratic platform which is bigger than any individual candidate and certainly more important to all Democrats in the end. But wait!!! Now 3-4 out of every 10 Clinton supporters have switched to John McCain out of anger, protest, or whatever! How can the view of another 4-8 years of Republican platforms be better than a slightly amended Democratic platform??? I used to wonder as a practising Republican why the Democrats seemed to self-destruct around convention time and here it is yet again. It really is true that Democrats have a death wish and once again you will let down your PARTY because of your petty, selfish complaints. There goes the dreams of the platform and everyone’s efforts for decades. Now I am totally perplexed. Do I support a party that is leading us to early destruction or one that self-destructs every 4 years? Thanks for the options folks!

Posted by: Michael Hall | August 26, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

Obama failed his first JFK moment. In Obama’s place, JFK would have chosen Hillary for vp, as he chose LBJ for vp. He would have done it for good of country and united the party. Obama is either too insecure or too selfish to make such a decision.

Posted by: JKIR | August 26, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

I have to laugh at the naive notion that a Hillary speech tonight will somehow cause me to move to Obama. While protocol dictates that Hillary makes the speech, no-one will dictate to me who I will vote for. Look, if Obama has the message to sell the American people, he will be elected. If he doesn’t, he won’t. I recommend Obama voters worry about their vote and I will worry about mine.

Posted by: AFCOL | August 26, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

What a load of nonsense, ABC. Is there anything you won’t do to make Obama look like the Savior of the world?
Obama is bad for this country and Hillary knows it.

Posted by: Michelle | September 2, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

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