Deal: Clinton’s Name Will Be Placed in Nomination at Dems Convention
ABC News’ Kate Snow reports: A deal has been brokered between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton that will allow Clinton’s name to be placed in nomination at next week’s Democratic nominating convention, sources close to the Clinton camp told ABC News.
"Both sides agree that it is in the best interest of party unity and making sure that everyone’s voice and vote is honored to make sure her name is put into nomination," a person close the negotiations said. "It’s to honor everyone who worked so hard on both sides."
The two sides have been jockeying over how to win over Clinton supporters who were bitterly disappointed by her loss and the chance of seeing the first woman to win the presidential nomination of a major political party.
It is also apparent that Clinton is not being seriously considered as a running mate for Obama.
The deal that allows Clinton’s name to be placed in nomination is meant to help mollify those hurt feelings.
“I am convinced that honoring Senator Clinton’s historic campaign in this way will help us celebrate this defining moment in our history and bring the party together in a strong united fashion,” Obama said in a joint statement released by the press offices of both senators.
The statement said Obama’s office "encouraged" Clinton’s supporters to place her name in nomination. Nevertheless, it has taken weeks for today’s agreement to be reached.
The joint statement quoted Clinton saying, “With every voice heard and the Party strongly united, we will elect Senator Obama President of the United States and put our nation on the path to peace and prosperity once again.”
Some details are still being worked out, but Clinton’s name will be put into nomination at the Denver convention on Wednesday. That will be one day after Clinton addresses the convention.
"This truly was a joint decision," according to the Clinton source. "This wasn’t something she was itching for, looking for. But so many of her supporters said it was important to them. And the Obama people got how important it was to smooth over any tensions and that it was the right thing to do."
What also hasn’t been settled yet is who will nominate Clinton and whether she will stand up with the New York delegation when they are called on.
What has been settled, however, is that after both Clinton and Obama names are placed into nomination there will be a roll call vote.
What has also been hashed out is that at some point during the convention, Clinton will release her delegates officialy to Obama and that she will make it very clear that she is voting for Obama, the source said.
One more thing…
As of last night, there are still no decisions on whether Chelsea Clinton will speak at the convention, although a Clinton source said, "I wouldn’t be surprised if she did" introduce her mother.
That would make the convention a true family affair with Hillary, Bill and Chelsea Clinton all having podium time.
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Good. Her name should also be submitted for the VP nomination, and she will then become Obama’s VP since many of Obama’s delegates “owe” the Clinton’s their current status in politics.
Posted by: Maria | August 14, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
What a formula for disaster!!!
Posted by: Mike | August 14, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
It would be REALLY funny if Hillary Clinton actually GETS the nomination! Old Man McCain could pack his bags and retire in Arizona. He MIGHT be able to defeat the New Messiah, but he could NOT defeat Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Rhys | August 14, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
This is the rule of the Convention. Obama did not want to follow the rules initially and wanted like Kenyan Politics. Lord Obama was forced to follow the rules.
McCain’08
Posted by: tom | August 14, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Big mistake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.They willdo ANYTHING to get this mark my word.
Posted by: indp voter | August 14, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Not sure if anyone knows the answer to this, but why would having her put on the nomination have to be done by a deal between them? Don’t they just follow party rules?
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
tom – there would have been no violation of any “rules,” and now it is not even an issue. Give it up.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
this isn’t over. hillary won’t quit until she gets what she wants…and she might just end up getting what she wants. obama: you’re screwed! hillary will make you look like more of a fool than you already are!
Posted by: isy m | August 14, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Obama!!!!Are you out of your mind? Clinton now has two nights(hers and Bill’s) and you give them this! The Clintons are nothing but thugs trying to steal your show if not even your nomination—careful Mr. O for the Devil still has designs!!!!!
Posted by: rockychance | August 14, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
jmengate
They are following party rules. I don’t think anyone could have blocked Clinton from getting the vote if she insisted on it. The negotiations were just trying to persuade her not to insist upon it.
I’m glad for the vote, though. I think it looks better this way.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
It looks like Obama is about to shoot himself in the foot. But oh well…. it is starting to look like 1968 Chicago once again…
Posted by: Fernao de Magalhaes | August 14, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Didn’t Hillary Clinton merely SUSPEND her campaign? I can’t remember hearing her actually say she is quitting.
There is still a remote chance to stop the runaway charisma train. Yes, I know it’s a REMOTE chance, but McCain should be at least a LITTLE bit worried.
Posted by: Rhys | August 14, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
If Hillary steals the nomination, Obama backers in mass will vote Mccain and Hillary will get totally devastated by the vote against her. Don’t give McCain this sure win if ever there was one.
Posted by: rockychance | August 14, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Hillary is such a sore LOSER; she can’t give it up. She LOST! This has always been all about the Clintons; not aboaut heer supporters, as she tries to make us think. They’ve thrown their fit and gotten their way. Now will they just go away after this? I knew she still had soemthing up her sleeve! What a phony LOSER!
Posted by: Mary | August 14, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
I think it will be fantastic, if Obama gets what he truely deserves, and Ms. Hilary gets the nomination. This is just sweet!
Posted by: McCain 08 or Clinton? | August 14, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
This is how the DNC rules are suppose to work. Also, I would like to point out that it has been the tradition in the DNC for candidate who had delegates to be voted on at the convention. Best example is Dean himself! Why this even became an issue is only because the DNC wanted a corination rather than a nomination.
Also, it is important to point out that neither candidate Obama or Hillary won enough delegate to be the nominee during the primaries.
The purpose of Super delegates is to vote for the candidate who is most likely to win in the general election. Based on current polls Obama has become a BIG question.
Can we risk not regaing the white house?
Hillary for President – Obama for VP
Posted by: Phyllis/ PA | August 14, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Historically Jock, the party that is the most divided is the party that loses. If there is a split in the Democratic party, and that is what this looks like, I’m pretty sure they’ll be handing McCain the election.
Posted by: jfm125 | August 14, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
I think this is a HUGE mistake by the Obama camp.
Posted by: Vanessa | August 14, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
Baby Boy Obama really does not have a choice. Many of us Hillary supporters will not vote for Obama either way (unless he makes her VP) but I am sure this will sway many of them toward Obama. I love how the Obama supporters hate this move…some unity he has inspired. What are they afraid of? If Obama can’t handle the little ‘ol Clintons then he surely cannot handle the job as Commander in Cheif. That is why I am voting for McCain.
Posted by: BabsNJJ | August 14, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
The Democratic Party (as dictated by Howard Dean) has bet on the wrong horse. This is at least a SLIGHT opportunity for them to correct the problem and win in November.
Posted by: Rhys | August 14, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
its obvious to anyone who truly cares about their children that only Senator Clinton is capable of being the best President for them right now…..such hatred and disrespect for her and her supporters is only meant to disguise guilt over having compromised the best interests of those they love by supporting a lesser candidate (mccain/obama) to take on such overwhelming responsibilities and problems
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Way to go, Hillary! We want YOU as our Democratic nominee! NoBama!
Posted by: Jane Hussein Obama | August 14, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
I am a Republican exicted at the opportunity to vote for Obama……the horrific idea of having Hillary on the ballot is making me think twice about the Democratic Party….not a good decision to put someone as DIVISIVE as Hillary on the ballot…..keep it simple and let us vote for Obama and change….not the same ‘ol same ‘ol of McCain and Clinton
Posted by: ray | August 14, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
She will not be stealing anything. Obama has not been named the Nominee, ONLY the presumptive Nominee. I hope that all of the things he has said and done, has now backfired on him. The only way he had a chance was for him to pick Hilary as his vp. Either she said no or he was too bullhead to allow it. And I think by now that the person’s that backed him before are now having second thoughts due to his actions lately. Hahahahahah. You go Hil! Your a very smart woman. I think that Obama even told the convention people that he wanted Michigan and Florida Deligates to now be able to vote. haha. Bye bye O.
Posted by: Hahaha | August 14, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
I am not worried about Hillary, I honestly think she is doing everything she can to unify the party, but I am very concerned about her supporters. She needs to do more between the convention to convince her supporters that any kind of floor fight or disrespect of the nominee will not be tolerated.
Posted by: markymark | August 14, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
jock59801 – Thanks for the clarification. I agree that allowing the delegates to vote for Clinton is a good idea.
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Once again -no one has been nominated yet. The RULES require a vote.
Posted by: geevill | August 14, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
obama can beat mccain if he were alone…..but he can’t withstand the severe attack campaign headed his way courtesy of special interest groups not unlike the swift boat vets…..only Senator Clinton has shown the tenacity and perseverance to thrive under such hostile conditions and adversaries….obama is toast and his naive lemming supporters don’t even see it coming….
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
I have always said that when Hillary merely “suspended” her campaign, that she had an alterior motive. I think we see that being played out. Obama could very well lose the nomination now!
Hillary 08!
Posted by: david from texas | August 14, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Most of the time, political conventions are a complete waste of everyone’s time and money. But THIS year, it could be different!
BOTH parties have selected the WRONG candidates (for different reasons). Hillary Clinton could beat ANY Republican candidate, but if the Dems stick with BHO, they COULD lose in November.
If the Republicans had chosen a stronger candidate, they could defeat Obama, but McCain will have a hard time, especially with the weak and reactionary campaign he is running.
Posted by: Rhys | August 14, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
I am a strong Obama supporter but this makes me wonder if he is too willing to placate bullies. This is no time, in the state of the world, to be weak. On the other hand, I don’t want an old reactionary (male or female).
Posted by: jj | August 14, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Clinton only cares about HERSELF and HER power…she is extremely greed in regards to her NEED for power and influence….this is just another example of Clinton’s ME FIRST attitude and Democratic Party comes second…..its a shame she was able to pull the wool over the eyes of all the uneducated people and the women of the US……she doesn’t care about you..she cares about HERSELF …..
Posted by: jim | August 14, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
This is a big mistake.
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | August 14, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Anyone who really thinks Clinton is going to come away from this as the nominee has completely lost sense of reality. Unless some horrible skeleton comes out about Obama from now until then.
Also, it’s not about following the rules.. it’s typical for the candidate who end up on the short end to withdraw their name from the ballot.
Posted by: Derek | August 14, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
maybe Clinton will get the nomination and the Bo could be her VP yeah thats the ticket.
Posted by: Bishop | August 14, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Hillary couldn’t even manage her own campaign staff. She is a horrible manager and is the most divisive and selfish person in the Senate. It’s no wonder her unfavorable numbers are sky high. She disgusts me. I hope she gets booed at the convention.
Posted by: Lisa | August 14, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
I think Obama went way out on a limb on this one. Shows how much the Clinton’s are addicted to power. Just can’t let go here. who knows how this roll call vote would go. I don’t favor either but this is nuts. Suppose there is a near tie on this vote. This could be very interesting. A night to remember for some or for the democrats, a night to forget.
Posted by: richard warren | August 14, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Could our wildest dream actually come true????
Contact your delegates for Hillary…Make sure they vote for her! She could actually WIN!
Posted by: seethetruth | August 14, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Will, you are absolutely correct. I am one of those Hillary supporters/contributors who has already decided to vote for McCain, even though I don’t like him very much.
Posted by: Rhys | August 14, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
When is the losing party of 2009 actually the winner??? When the candidates are Obama and McCain..and we get to cast our vote again in four years……….
Posted by: CuriousIndep. | August 14, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
If Hillary where to actually be nominated, delegates are not bound by voters, the Democratic Party would be split and we truely would have the opportunity to have a three party system
Posted by: David | August 14, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Clinton will mess everything up and if she were to win the nomination it will probably make McCain president as there will be a lot of Dem. and Obama supporters that would be so upset at her they wont vote for her in the GE. Then she also would have no chance in 2012 as she will be seen as the canidate that lost the election for the dems in 2008. Its a no win situation. Thanks Sen Clinton for being the spoiled sport you are and I hope you and your sorry husband take that into you legacy.
Posted by: CW | August 14, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
“this isn’t over. hillary won’t quit until she gets what she wants…”
Not usually a Clinton defender, nor do I assume any politician is above putting self interests first, at least some of the time, but I really think we can avoid losing any sleep over this.
There’s no way Clinton can still try for the nomination. Even if she isn’t above it, she obviously understands the consequences of such action. It would shred any chance she had of party support in future endeavors. And even if she got the nomination, it wouldn’t be the nomination of anything anyone could consider a major party this time around.
If you think the party is split now, lol, just think through your nightmare scenario to its logical conclusion.
The bigger concern, for those who see the worst motives in Clinton, is the covert things that would be designed to undercut Obama while feigning support for him and the ticket. I doubt this is happening, but if it were, it would look something like what Howard Wolfson was saying earlier this week.
Posted by: Paul | August 14, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
“Clinton will release her delegates officialy to Obama and that she will make it very clear that she is voting for Obama”
After envisioning it the idea doesn’t sound as a bad idea as I orginally thought.
Posted by: Vanessa | August 14, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Only 112 Obama superdelegates would have to abstain from the first vote to deny him a first ballot victory. After the first ballot, all delegates are free to vote for whomever they choose, even someone who did not run in the primaries. Gore/Obama ’08, anyone?
Posted by: rlb1961 | August 14, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
And I thought we’d have to wait until November to defeat BHO! Now there’s a chance this insanity could end this month!
And McCain could stop wasting money on a badly-run campaign, because he would lose to Hillary Clinton, no matter what he does.
Posted by: Rhys | August 14, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Protocol – that’s all it is.
But too much Clinton time is happening at the convention. Bad decision by the DEMS. Boot them out once and for all.
Posted by: kayla | August 14, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Obama will be seen as weak if he keep letting the Clintons strong arm him. Next will be reading that Hilliary is Obama VP. Hilliary is not for the party but to satifiy her ego only. I can not wait until the Convention is over and Obama is the Dem Nom. – then what! Hilliary will be crying until Nov. she was cheating out of the Dem Nom.
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
what kind of democracy is this. Do the Clintons own the Democratic party now. There is winner not two whether by one vote or one hundred votes. Why can’t Clintons accept this. They are just treating the public as fools.
Why introduce Chelsa ? To me it sounds like a monarchy?
I used to love Cliontons, not any more. If I see any Clinton’s name then I’m voting for someone else.
Posted by: sp | August 14, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
On a note, Im sure she has agreed no matter what the outcome to turn her delegates over to Obama at the end. If she wins and does turn it all over, the spoiled looser Hillary supporters will be really upset and try to blame Obama again. I think I will vote for Nader.
Posted by: CW | August 14, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Operation chaos continues!!!!
Posted by: Gregor | August 14, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Is this good for Hillary??? She can’t win because the Superdelegates are not going to vote for her now, but she will look pretty bad among democrats. This is a win win for that undeserving politician Barack Hussein Obama.
Posted by: tom | August 14, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
There is going to be a BIG COUP D’ETAT in Denver. Obama and his fans just don’t know it yet………….
Posted by: Allen Ridge | August 14, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
The Democrats can’t help but shoot themselves in the foot. What happens if by some fluke she’s voted as the nominee. There will be so much turmoil John McCain will just waltz right into the White House.
Posted by: George | August 14, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
If I recall past conventions correctly, all candidates running in the party got nominated, the vote held, and the winner declared; this seems like status quo. The Hillary camp wins the sore loser prize. Fact is, they were not only but they lost. If they’re feeling betrayed by anyone, they should first take a good look in the mirror.
Posted by: mwiklund | August 14, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
About damn time. The only way that Obama can truly say that he beat Hillary is if her name is a nominee and she loses at the convention. I’m “supposed” to vote for Obama for the good of the “Party”. Guess what people, I’m NOT voting for Obama.
Posted by: Vivian | August 14, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
I think this is a REALLY bad idea. She ENDORSED him, and now she wants her name on the ballot? This will only deepen the rifs in the democratic ranks, and possible hurt Obama, maybe enough to cost him the election. I swear if she causes him a loss, I will absolutely trash her and ensure she NEVER gets elected. This election is about saving lives in IRaq, not her or his ego.
Posted by: N Smith | August 14, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Maria – It aint going to happen. Maria get over it she lose fair and square. Obama don’t own you are the her supporter anything. Y’all need to respect the people choice and go away al ready!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Dang, I thought everyone’s voice and vote had been heard. Only in the progressive movement could this statement be made in earnest.
Posted by: dablueshound | August 14, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Yes, she has shown great courage and strength. I am amazed that it is so hard for everyone to see what a fantastic leader she will make. God bless her, we need her, I hope everything turns around.
Posted by: Go Hillary | August 14, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
I am a older women and ashamed of what I am witnessing. Sometimes we need to be careful what we wish for. I pray that she gets everything she deserves.
Posted by: michelle | August 14, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
I think that alot of people that had backed Obama are now having second thoughts. Had they known who he realy was they would have stayed far away from him.
Posted by: See ya O | August 14, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
LOSER! She is making a fool of herself.
Posted by: hang | August 14, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
This is Stunning!!! This country is about to vote for an deserving, inexperienced, self-absorbing,and hypocritical guy like Obama to be President during a time of crisis. For God’s sake!!! Wake up people!!! This democrat sincerely hope that McCain will win.
Posted by: tom | August 14, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Yea, Obama graciously agrees after Clinton supporters start getting close to having enough signatures to have it happen. Besides, he was losing alot of support by trying to intimidate all those delegates. I guess he had some push back on his Chicago Politics.
John McCain will not be laughing at many B&%$* beating jokes for at least 10 days. And if Clinton actually wins the nomination, Cindy is going to need another face lift.
Posted by: Not Fooled | August 14, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Hopefully the super delegates have had an attack of intelligence and will switch their votes to Hillary. Obama hasn’t been able to outpoll McCain despite all his spending and bhis farcical foreign trip. Now is the time to cut our losses before we lose yet another presidential election.
Posted by: Lynn | August 14, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
For all of the Obama supporters, if your man is so great, then you have nothing to worry about do you? I wonder if Obama is comming back from Hawaii? I wonder if he is kicking himself that he did not want her as his vp. I guess I will be watching the dem convention after all. I sure would like a ticket now.
Posted by: Sorry O | August 14, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
r933o – Nice try
Repubs have been saying there is something “big” about to come out for months now. It is an old ploy to get people thinking there might actually be something “big” out there, without ever needing any actual evidence. It’s kind of like lying.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Regarding comments about Obama’s electabilty…the media is playing us…they report the percentages 47vs45 to make it look like a close race. The FACT is the independent electoral college predictions show Obama with +105 over McCain..not a landslide…but a clear cut, Phelps style victory.
Oh and BTW we don’t need to go negative on McCain, he’s a good guy, it’s just that Obama is much better, he brings high IQ, enthusiasm, and flat out.. he IS a leader.
PUMA people: just like that American gymnist the other day, get over it …she lost
Posted by: Cautiously Optimistic | August 14, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
We need to have a roll call vote. Problem after the first call there will not be a winner if all pledged delagates vote the way they are pledged. Hillary should then release her delagates to vote for Obama. Obama could use some humble pie. Don’t forget the super delagates chose him not the people!!
Posted by: elva | August 14, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
This is Stunning!!! This country is about to vote for an undeserving, inexperienced, self-absorbing,and hypocritical guy like Obama to be President during a time of crisis. For God’s sake!!! Wake up people!!! This democrat sincerely hope that McCain will win.
Posted by: tom | August 14, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Sorry O
Agreed. We have nothing to worry about.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
she is allowed on to help ‘heal those hurt feelings’ well I’m sure glad she isn’t going to get it. We don’t need a leader with feelings that can be hurt by their own failures. ….BUSH IN ’08
Posted by: CHRIS | August 14, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Where did this myth of the Obama campaign abusing Clinton and her supporters come from?
There was much more soreness and negativity coming from Clinton than the other way around.
As a third party (Canadian), you Clinton supporters are being patently absurd about all of this.
Posted by: dk | August 14, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
“what kind of democracy is this. Do the Clintons own the Democratic party now. There is winner not two whether by one vote or one hundred votes. Why can’t Clintons accept this. They are just treating the public as fools.”
It’s not as if she is just elbowing her way on stage. She did or does have the support of about half of the Democratic party. She does feel a sense of obligation to those voters.
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
I didn’t think anything could ever make me vote republican in this election, but I assure you, if Clinton gets nominated after this, I, and the rest of my family, will certainly vote for McCain. It would be the end of this country if that woman became president.
Posted by: Richard | August 14, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
I still think an Obama/Hillary ticket is the winner!
Posted by: Bill in NC | August 14, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
elva – There will be only one vote. The superdelegates vote with the others, so someone has to win. And unless the superdelegates suddenly decide to overturn the pledged delegate count, that will be Obama.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
While I’m voting for Senator Obama, I still think both of these candidates should be on the ballot. They’re both great candidates. They both have a lot to offer. Every person should have the right to express their opinion at the convention. I do believe that Senator Obama is the better candidate, but I know that many people also believe Clinton to be very strong. In any case, we should vote fairly. Equality and freedom is the American way.
Posted by: Allen | August 14, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
To the comparisons of Howard Dean, please. They both have different bases, and Clinton has tons of older, almost spoiled voters, many of whom used race ALONE to excuse (as opposed to justify) not voting for Obama. Look no further than Ed Rendell from Pennsylvania, who said that whites there would not back him. For the shade of his skin? I don’t use this term often, but that’s clearly RACISM.
Posted by: N Smith | August 14, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
McCain will trounce either one of them. He has real experience, military experience and legislative experience. Obama and Clinton are empty (pant)suits!
Posted by: itwolan | August 14, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Thank you Clintons! As a republican I can save my gas and stay home on election day! You have just officially taken the democratic party out of the election. Watch how many Obama backers jump ship to McCain after you try a Hail Mary in the 4th quarter.
Thank you Clintons!!!!
Posted by: Murph | August 14, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
No doubt Obama will find his usual sly way of giving her the finger….it is his CORONATION after all!!!!!
P party
U unity
M my
A arse
The Dem party imploded thanks to Michigan and the Rules Committee…..the lousiest, most incompetent nomibnation in history….Barack Hussein Obama!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Paul | August 14, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Obama did not win–Hillary received more votes in the popular vote, and if we had been able to count all of Florida and Michigan, she would have had the nomination. I will not vote for Obama because he was the “Chosen One”–the only way I will be voting for the Dems. this year is if Hillary is on the ticket. Otherwise, it is going to rain McCain for me.
Posted by: Carolforhil | August 14, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
d by: Rhys – Get over it you Clinton supporters she lost and will lost again!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
gdguy4hillary
Most Democrats were happy with both candidates and would be fine with Hillary on the ticket. I can’t see how it would be the best move politically for either one of them, but that’s their decision.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
N Smith – “I think this is a REALLY bad idea. She ENDORSED him, and now she wants her name on the ballot?” – Even though I’m an Obama supporter I disagree. I think her name should be on the ballot and I have enough trust in her supporters that this isn’t a gimmick to start a fight at the convention. If that were to happen McCain would be guaranteed the election and both candidates would be history.
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
If Clinton wins the nomination, all those Obama supporters who have been giving advise on Party Unity will get to demonstrate their own ideas. Or they will look like a sad bunch of hypocrites who never deserved their presumption.
Posted by: Not Fooled | August 14, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
I’m just trying to understand how anyone would believe she would get the AAmerican vote if she stole the nomination. There is just no way…lol
Posted by: SmootheNupe.... | August 14, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
also a guarantee that mccain will win the election: obama as Democratic nominee
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Hey N Smith: 90+% of blacks vote for Obama. That’s not racism? They are voting for him JUST because he is a fellow black.
Posted by: goldmineman | August 14, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
What an ego…sheesh.
Posted by: Dean | August 14, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
obama lemmings care more about obama than the party and the country….otherwise, they would be Hillary supporters…
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
OMG! That is hilarious. Obama isn’t as smart as I thought. Wouldn’t it be funny, if Clinton got the vote… Stood at the stage of the Obama Convention and accepted the nomination. “But, I didn’t know!”
Posted by: John | August 14, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Well as long as Obama is still the nominee and Hillary is not VP. A Clinton on the ticket would be the best thing to happen to McCain since Hillary is able to mobilize the conservative better than McCain can. I don’t see how people honestly think that Hillary would be winning by a landslide if she was the nominee. She’s too polarizing, she can’t win with independents, or even with a lot of the more conservative Blue Dog Democrats.
Posted by: J Munoz | August 14, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
I wonder if the Chinese mililary–People’s Liberation Army– will also experience “catharsis” at the DNC?
Posted by: Luis Rodriguez | August 14, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Not Fooled – “If Clinton wins the nomination..” – pssst, you’re a few months behind….might want to check out the committed delegate count.
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
to answer ahorner’s post copied below, if you give all of the superdelegates associated with a state to the winner of that state and leave the pledged ones intact you come up with Obama 2013 Clinton 1878 pre MI and FL
add those two in and it’s 2149-2107 still Obama
Yes, we want her nominated.
Neither one of them got enough pledged delegates, remember??
Obama did not win.
I have a question for Kate Snow, or anyone else that can answer this:
If all the superdelegates voted according to who won their state, what would the tally be right now?
All superdelegates from Illinois, Hawaii, Utah, and so on vote for Obama.
All the superdelegates from Ohio, Pennsylvania, Massachussetts and so on vote for Hillary.
Isn’t that what Donna Brazile wanted?? She wanted superdelegates to follow the will of the people–remember???
So if the superdelegates did follow the will of the people of their states,
what would the new “tally” be???
That is what I most want to know…
In any event, Obama did not win and if
he is the nominee I will vote for McCain. Me, and everyone else I know!!
Posted by: Mopy the Whale | August 14, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
just like obama joining and abandoning a church for political survival, anything else is expendable for his supporters, so long as the primary purpose, obama himself, is served well by the action
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
What good is the primary if it can all be changed at the convention. If this is the case, what a waste of time/money and effort.
Posted by: Concerned__2 | August 14, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
And… if she was nominated… the violence in the streets will be atrocious. Riots everywhere. Guaranteed.
Posted by: John | August 14, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
For some reason Obama supporters like Nancy Pelosi think that the democrats should not vote their concience and should fall in line. That sounds like repbublican politics to me. Everyone has the rigt to vote for whom they chose. They are not bound to a party.
Party unity is just another way of saying chroneyism. Elections are not games the has winners and loosers.
They are a way for people to have a voice. Why do Obama and Pelosie not want listen to what 18 Million democrats said with their vote? If he and she are what they say they are Hillary would be the VP, but neither are what they say they are. They are both all talk. I also believe that Nancy deos not want Hillary stealing her thunder.
This whole winner and looser thing in Politics is making all the citizens loosers because it does not promote unity it promotes division.
Posted by: texas outlaw | August 14, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Maybe the DNC is trying to “X” Obama but can not find an easy way to do it without a backlash for the black community. This may be the best way to do it. Allow Clinton’s name to be placed in nomination with Obama for vote, and maybe Hillary get the nomination! I strongly believe that the DNC is worry about Obama since the new book ‘Obama Nation” has been released. What a change of heart within since the release of the book.
Posted by: willie | August 14, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Either way it is a win for the new Communist Party; Hitler gave good speeches too!
Posted by: Gofa Curself | August 14, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
I can’t believe all these losers are really Democrats. Obama didn’t steal anything. He ran a “brilliant” campaign and she ran herself into debt. I have met both Clintons and always admired them. Not anymore — I think they have shown their true colors. Both the Democratic Party and the Clintons need to move on. We are soooo stuck in the past. If McCain wins, the Democrats will only have themselves to blame.
Posted by: diana | August 14, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Wow, Bill speaks then Hillary speaks, then Chelsea speaks…wait, where’s their dog?? By the time Obama speaks, everyone will be sick of listening. Oh well, wouldn’t matter…
Posted by: rktsci3127 | August 14, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
This is why I love Democrats so much. They are just too funny.
They take a simple thing like voting, and manage to turn it into one of the biggest foul-ups ever concieved. And these people think they can effectivley rubn the country? Puhlease, they cant even getting voting down, how the hell can we expect them to deal with REAL problems.
Posted by: Steve | August 14, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
“The days of turning your back on anyone who doesnt agree with you 100% are soon to be over. This is why Obama is the best choice for the highest office in the land, he will get everyone to work together.”
He has proven to be a divisive figure and there is no evidence in his past of getting everyone to work together. He talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk.
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
goldmineman – 90% of blacks have always voted for the Democratic candidate, who has always been white.
And no, liking the idea of a President who might understand you better is not racism.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Neither candidate won the 2025 delegates needed to secure the nomination. Sen. Obama announced he was the winner based on adding in 400 super delegate endorsements. Whether you support O or C this attempt to bypass the democratic process should be a concern to all Americans. After living abroad I’ve known for years we don’t really have a free press, but it has gotten completely out of hand in this election. I’m glad they have decided to follow the rules, as it would come back to haunt them if they didn’t.
Posted by: Mary | August 14, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
: goldmineman – Your statement is not true. Blacks have supported whites for years and large numbers so why can they support a black man in large number for a chance. This is not racist just on to cast their vote behind someone other then whites. Whites have been running the White House for far too long.
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
May I remind you… [[ "Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Sen. Obama than Sen. McCain," Clinton told her cheering audience in the Las Vegas suburb of Henderson. "Remember who we were fighting for in my campaign."]] Democrats have little to nothing in common with McCain failed ideas. McCain’s policies and war mongering will bankrupt our country.
Posted by: JD | August 14, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
its really sad to hear some disrespect Senator Clinton because it is plainly obvious that such passion against her is a weapon of those who do not have the courage to overcome their own pride for the best interests of their own children
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Ha, maybe as she accepts the nomination, she’ll ask “Citizen of the World” to be the VP. This convention is going to make the one in Chicago look like a picnic.
Posted by: Lars | August 14, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
The Kenyan was stopped here, but wait until he gets the whitehouse. We’re gonna see armed guards all over that place and in our airports too. wait! we already have armed guards everywhere.
excuse me, go back to the limbo and your rum drinks america.
Posted by: Drx227 | August 14, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
If “None of the above” were running they would win in a landslide victory. When you choose between the lesser of two evils, you still end up with evil.
Posted by: Jim | August 14, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
When will the Clintons JUST GO AWAY…….this woman was near bottom of her class at Yale Law, FAILED the Washington Bar Exam…….she has been built up by the media. God help us if she returns AGAIN in 2012. Thats why the posturing for the convention – the Clintons want Obama to lose so the Pill can try her “magic” in 20012.
Posted by: Grant | August 14, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Tom Remember honey, Hill and Bill tried to do an end ruun around Michigan and Florida rules in February. How interesting that when following the rule benefits them, they want to do so and when it does not they dont want to follow the rules.
Posted by: jenny | August 14, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
can’t believe how muck of a bad loser the clintons still are, always have been even in arkansas they were always bad losers, look out barack shes gonna sneak in the back door and your out
Posted by: edbenoit | August 14, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
I’ve been saying all along that Hillary would get on the roll call.
I just don’t see her agreeing to turn over her delegates to Obama. Don’t see it.
She wants to be President too much.
Watch. Now that Obama has asked the Credentials Committee to give Florida and Michigan their full votes, Obama is only 55 or so pledged delegates ahead of Hillary.
This means they are practically tied and Obama does not deserve to be coronated at the convention.
Look out for a surprise folks!
Hillary can literally use the party’s own rules, and walk away with the nomination!
Go Hillary!
(And I’m a Republican voting for McCain…..but I’m watching this very carefully, and it appears that Dean, Pelosi and Obama have all tried to subvert democracy, disenfranchise millions of voters in Florida and Michigan, and steal the nomination…..).
Hillary deserves the nomination.
And with all the negative stuff finally coming out about Obama, the Democrats are having second thoughts—go Hillary!
Posted by: glc | August 14, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
As you can see from all the posts here, Hillary’s bullying her way into the convention really is unifying.
(dripping with sarcasm)
Posted by: jds | August 14, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Ok this is good for party unity and if she loses again maybe the pumas will shut the he– up, If she should happen to STEAL this from him ME MY FAMILY MY FRIENDS WILL NOTE VOTE FOR HER, WE WONT VOTE FOR MCCAIN, WE WILL SIT HOME ON ELECTION DAY AFTER THE CAMPAIGN SHE RAN (like mccains all negetive) THE DEBT THE DIRTY LITTLE GAMES SHE PLAYED(fl and mi) THERE IS NOWAY WE WANT THAT WOMAN AS PRESIDENT AND YOU CAN BANK ON THIS PUMAS THERE WILL BE NO VOTE FOR HILLARY GRASS ROOTS STARTED!!!!!!
Posted by: angie | August 14, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
What a woman? She got them to fold.
Posted by: larry | August 14, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
I don’t like this at all!!! But, hopefully, we can’t just get it out of the way. She will not get the nomination, because most people at that stadium are showing up for Obama. My job as an Obama supporter is to ignore anything “negative” about him, the swiftboating books, the trash talk, the stupid childish ads, and this Clinton thing. My job is to stand by and behind my man, Obama until I see him moving in the White House. I will not be moved! Hillary Clinton is just showing everyone how childish she is, too. What I want to see is the 2nd place guy who finished behind that swimmer, Phelps ask for his gold medal! Hillary, you lost. Period. Yes, you are a Clinton, but you are not GOD. There is always 1st and 2nd place, just take your second and go back to the Senate. Obama is the best person to be president. We don’t want your scandals, etc. back in our White House. Get going already. This is not Russia. We don’t want an unending Clinton dynasty. Like how Putin won’t truly go away in Russia. NO! If you are an Obama supporter, the trick is, ignore Clinton and everyone against Obama. Keep your eye on the prize. It will not be easy, but nothing worth it is ever easy. There’s going to be some turbulence, the sea is going to rock the boat a bit, the earth’s going to shake from time to time, just brace and push through. Keep on keeping on. Hang tough, hang tight, and hold on. It’s Obama, ALL THE WAY! We told Clinton good-bye in the primaries, and we’ll do it again at the convention. Let’s get ready to tell McCain good-bye next.
Obama 08!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Vegas | August 14, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
of course, when your candidate is content having voted “Present” on so many issues, i guess voting “None of the Above” is par for the course
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
The Clinton ego is all that ever matters to the Clintons.
Posted by: Thomas Mc | August 14, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
You mean they are going to actually nominate Barry O and not crown him????
What a joke…
Posted by: dandydon | August 14, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
I think we should all face reality. the Democratic party was “split” during the primaries. There is nothing Obama or Hillary can do, except that they are on the same ticke to bring unity. Without a joint ticket, we should all get used to saying, “Welcome, President John McCain.”
Posted by: david from texas | August 14, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
“My job as an Obama supporter is to ignore anything “negative” about him, the swiftboating books, the trash talk, the stupid childish ads, and this Clinton thing.”
Yikes! A true mindless bot.
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
So ya’ll think that Obambie is tough enough to run the freakin’ country and he can’t drive a stake through the heart of the Clintonistas?
Face it, this is the Clinton Convention not the Democratic Convention. Two straight nites of Clinton pornography and propoganda! Hope Chelsea gets a chance to speak, too.
Michelle better loan Barack back his cojones cause he is obviously in need.
Hey, Barack, you WON the nomination and you get to call the shots.
Power is not conveyed, it is taken!
NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME v the Wicked Witch of the East CAGE MATCH!
Posted by: Jakie | August 14, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Hey Blondie,
What if I’m black and voting for McCain??
What do Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Edwards have in common?
None of them will be decorating the oval office! bawahahahahahahahah
Posted by: Murph | August 14, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Calm down everyone. Pure and simple, Obama is the very best we can offer up at this time. He can unite people. We see that already. The young, hip and future of our great country rides on that. He can grasp new ideas and refine them, with the help of the best brains of this country. Clinton and McCain are another time and place. Change is afoot. Go with the flow. We could continue to lead the world by doing the right thing and the real will of the people. And personally I would have loved Hillary to win….but she will in the long run and she will have more power in Congress than anyone else to make things right for families, women and in general.
Posted by: Paula | August 14, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Mopy the whale,
If the panel did not “GIVE” Obama the MI delegates he would have been behind.
Pelosi and Dean did their part in keeping Hillary from winning MI and FL. They are both trying to push people to fall in line now. They critisize republican politics and then act just like them.
Posted by: texas outlaw | August 14, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
put hillary where she be longs in prison for a very long time not in the white house
Posted by: BEEMAN | August 14, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
i am glad that obama has brought many into the fold with his grandiose speeches, but this is not American Idol, and plans and policies will matter A LOT…..the supporters of obama have allowed their enthusiasm for him and his candidacy to overwhelm their more rational sensibilities, and this is to the detriment of our country….mob mentality is not exclusive to acts of violence….
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Botton line Hilliary can not win this election without the black votes. If she happen to still the nom from Obama at the convention, blacks just won’t vote. Blacks usually will not vote for a Repub they just won’t vote at all. Obama have votes from all races where Hilliary wouldn’t so McShame will be our next President and you whites people will be the one hurting the most. All the White nuts that are running around shotting people!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
chris
They thought it was safe to take their name off the ballot in Michigan, because Hillary promised that the contest would not count and that she was only leaving her name on for diplomatic reasons.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
I call BS! The Clinton’s have never “cared” for anyone other than themselves! This whole thing about letting her join in on the nomination by adding her name is strictly for personal gain. She is only doing it in the hopes that something happens to Barak to force him out, be it something from his past surfacing to harm his standing or something more serious such as him being assassinated as SHE implied earlier in the campaign by referencing the assassination of Robert Kennedy. She has no intention of loosing this race and mark my words she is still in it to win it. The Clinton’s are red faces angry at this whole thing and are up to something, just wait.
Posted by: Bob Whiite | August 14, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Most of these discussions continue to resemble drunken disagreements between Packers-Bears fans.
Posted by: Mike | August 14, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Excellent. Now maybe I can support Obama with a clear concience.
Posted by: a reader in georgia | August 14, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Will: Right On!! This action is to show Obama and his supporters our power.
Posted by: suzy | August 14, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Is this election EVER going to be over?
Posted by: CharlotteNC | August 14, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
I finally found a copy of “The Obama Nation”, after searching for it all over the place. Everyone is sold out, Amazon has it on backorder. I drove 30 miles to a Wal Mart to get a copy. When I got there, there were about 25 people waiting in line to get one of 15 books to be put on the shelf. The book distributor said this book is selling faster than the Harry Potter series. I’m telling you, this book will be a a very negative aspect on Obama’s campaign. I don’t see him recovering, especially now with Hillary being able to be nominated on the floor. Afraid it is all over for Barack Obama this year!
Posted by: anne | August 14, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
I saw a video on Penn (of Penn and Teller) website that said he has come to believe that the Republicans are the candidates of fear and the Democrats are the candidates of hate. That seems to be true on this blog.
Posted by: disambiguates | August 14, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
I understand why this decision was made but man, Hillary can’t go away.she wont give up. Obama is the nominee.This is all about her not the Democratic party.
Posted by: L..A. | August 14, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
tom, it is not the rule of the convention. Since Clinton has conceeded to Obama, there is no rule requiring her name be put into nomination. Doing this effectively nullifies her concession, which is why they took so much time to script this the way they did. There will not be any surprises.
Posted by: Mike | August 14, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
This is horrible news. The Party doesn’t need discention, we need UNITY
Posted by: Jeanne Senatore | August 14, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Why would Obama voters want to ignore negative information about him?
Doesn’t that make you kind of ignorant?
Don’t you want to know everything you can about your chosen candidate?
Don’t you think it’s important for America as a country that its leaders be fully vetted? That you know as much as possible about them?
Don’t be ignorant, please.
Posted by: glc | August 14, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
This is the Happiest Day of my Life!!! Democracy has stepped up and paved the way for Our Nation to truly correct this hugh Mistake. Hillary not only is best qualified but compared to Obama she’s a real blessing that we all can be proud of!!!!! Go America Go!!! Hillary can win if we want her too..all we have to do is unify and make it happen…..Never say Never and step out on Faith and good ole American attitude and we can get this done!! Hillary, the People’s President the Next President of these United States.
Posted by: msthinkonthis | August 14, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
The republicans will tear hillary apart with all her and bills baggage bills numerous affairs, hillarys sniper fire, i belive the clintons are in the middle of a court battle swindiling money!! the republicans will have a field day with them!! look at what their doing to obama and their all lies and smears at least the clinton baggage are facts!!!!
Posted by: angie | August 14, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
I always assumed Clinton backers were intelligent people. After reading some of the blogs, I can see I was wrong. Anyone Hillary backer who would vote to McCain never really wanted Hillary in the first place. Hillary and McCain could not be further apart on the issues. Hillary and Barack agree on just about every issue except he has more charisma and will do more to elevate our country’s image than Hill. You Hillary fanatics are nuts!
Posted by: Julie Bailey | August 14, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
anne: I was able to get a copy from Amazon and wait for it to be delivered on 18th of August. Cannot wait to read it.
Posted by: willie | August 14, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Wouldn’t it be nice to know who the V.P. for each candidate would be. I DO NOT feel comfortable voting for someone on the fly. Especially “Barry” (grin)
Posted by: Cherie | August 14, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
DNC finally gets it right, Hillary should be acknowledge in this matter. I’m glad that the Obama camp didn’t get their way on this one, regardless of what they now say they would have preffered it not be this way. As far as the Vice Pres. Nomination Hillary is material to be a President not VP that position is more suited for the junior senator with very little real life experience Obama. He’s beeter suited for American Idol than being the next President of the United States which we know he will not become because he will not get the vote from a third of Hillarys supporters. He lost us at Hello a very long time ago! Hillary 2012 McCaine will get one term and then he’s out, see
ya…
Posted by: Cas | August 14, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Well wasn’t it nice thinking we’d actually beat the Republicans this time around?
Thanks to Hillary’s hubris and her supporters whiny victimhood, this one is going down the toilet.
I’ll be at the convention. If she eff’s this up, i will be there to fight. I can’t believe this crap.
Talk about ENTITLEMENT. CRY ME A RIVER.
Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.
Posted by: Nooooooooooo!!! | August 14, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Maybe the DNC read the book “Obama Nation” and needs a safe way out.
Posted by: cookie | August 14, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
After voting for the Clintons 3 times – I have completely wiped them from any future considerations. These people are Clinton first and to hell with everyone else.
Never again…
Posted by: PulSamsara | August 14, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Good bye election–hello President McCain–well done Hillary and Bill. you have really done it.
Posted by: StLouisMan | August 14, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
glc
We do know as much as possible about Obama. Enough to know that the lies are….well, lies. How does reading more lies tell us anything new?
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Hillary, be warned. We are 2 million strong. You are a couple thousand disgruntled. We will revolt in ways you have never seen. Be very very careful of your EGO.
Posted by: RIOT | August 14, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
I think this was an important step for the party in the name of fairness. Ends need to meet and we need to elect a democrat in November. People call this divisive but if Clinton’s supporters were ignored, it would be the same story with different words. Stop the bickering – come together. I have confidence in our party, in Obama, and in Clinton. She deserves this gesture. Lets win in November.
Obama 08.
Posted by: Suggestion | August 14, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
anne: I was able to get a copy from Amazon and wait for it to be delivered on 18th of August. Cannot wait to read it.
Posted by: willie | Aug 14, 2008 12:38:49 PM
Willie, I’m about half way thru it. I can’t BELIEVE some of this stuff and it is backed up by over 50 lawyers and nearly 700 footnotes of authenticity! Obama has MISLED the American public. Very good reading and I thank Dr. Corsi for writing it. It’s the NO# 1 Bestseller on the New York Times right now! This says something of how America feels about Obama!
Hillary 08!
Posted by: anne | August 14, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
I think we should just all retire this word “racist” for the next three months. No one seems to know what it means anyway.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
He Can’t Win Without Her!
Posted by: Louis Jacinto | August 14, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
anne
Lawyers and footnotes are your proof of authenticity????????????
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Shame on YOU Hillary Clinton! You are the most divisive individual I have seen in recent history. And, shame on your ‘supporters’. Hillary Clinton doesn’t care as much about Americans – as she cares about POWER. You are willing to follow blindly behind her because she’s a woman? I’m a woman, too – and at least I have enough intellegence to think for myself. I would love to see a woman President – but the RIGHT woman, not her. I watched her during the primaries with an open mind – she could not believe that she was not getting what she was ‘entitled to’. She stooped so low, lied, mislead (sound familiar – hmmmm George Bush – Iraq War?) Remember Michigan and Florida? She did not take her name off the ballot as she said she would. Sneaky, sneaky snake in the grass. She is NOT the right person to lead this country. She is more of the same establishment that has been in Washington for years. Making the rich richer and the poor poorer. Taking away our privacy, our liberties. Why do you think Bill wants so much to get back in power? And, your head is in the sand if you don’t think he’ll try to take as much power as he can. What a scary thought. If you think she has a chance to win against McCain – think again. There are so many skeletons in her closet, that the Republicans would LOVE the opportunity to bring them to light. Why do you think Republicans changed parties during the primaries and voted for her? They KNOW she CANNOT win.
OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!! Seek positive change for this country.
Posted by: sisleo | August 14, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Ras Charles: I am a Hillary supporter and definitely my vote will go to McCain. I have already registered as a new member of the Black Republican. With John Edwards affair and book release on Obama (Obama Nation), Obama and DNC now need all of Hillary’s supporters. They did not care a couple weeks ago. Go Hillary.
Posted by: Sally298 | August 14, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
This is the stupidiest idea that the DNC has come up with ever – this will be a huge embarrasment for the DEMS and a real recipe for disaster – the DEMS are setting themselves up for failure. Shame on Hilary Clinton and her supporters for making the DNC continue down this path. I will now boycott the DNC convention and hope another party emerges soon to wipe the DEMS/REP off the planet who both seem to be hellbent on destroying this country. Neither party cares any longer – Remember John Lennon – its time for a REVOLUTION.
Posted by: daisy | August 14, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
This is good news for Democrats, as it underscores the importance of following the Democratic process.
It actually makes Obama appear more fair, informed and mature than some of his radical supporters.
If they both somehow end up on the tickt, it would be a golden day for the Democratic Party.
Posted by: 12SeakOut | August 14, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Some of you Hillary supporters are just dreamers.
Do you think Dems are fools?
Giving the nomination to anyone other than Obama is a guarantee that the Dems will lose.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | August 14, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Barack Obama has been awesome. At first people said he was too black. And then the blacks said he was not black enough. I suspect that Obama will go down in history as one of the best presidents ever, something this country really needs right now. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | August 14, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Melanie – honey, if this is the first time you realized politicians have manipulative personalities and are “con men”, it’s a leap in consciousness. That’s how these people get to where they are. Now, turn around and look back at the past 8 years. Want to continue that status quo?
Posted by: CaliRules | August 14, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Melanie
Sorry, you don’t always get what you want in a democracy. Other people get to vote too.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
I am not a an Obama supporter but this shows smarts. As a Hillary supporter this was one of the biggest things that grated my nerves acting like having a roll call was something out of the ordinary it wasn’t. Hillary will not be president and she will not be president, but Obama supporters need not worry I am almost certain what will happen is that before there is vote Hillary will release her delegates.
Posted by: rachel | August 14, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Hillary will have her name placed in nomination as this is the traditional manner in which we Democarats place our candidates into nomination regardless of their total delegate count and real chances of gainign the nomination. Its about recognizing all of the candidates efforts including cheater Edwards! Im glad that the Obama camp idn’t get away with their grandious coronation ball for Mr. Obama! How i dispise this little man I’m a life long Democrat but this time i will break party line and vote for McCaine allow him one term which I’m certain he’ll screw up somehow. Hillary will be back in 2012 and the mistakes of 2008 will not be repeated and we will finally have a true champion of the poor and under priveledge back in the white house. Thier will not be now or ever a rock star in the white house Obama needs to go back to Chicago and get a job as a producer on the Oprah Winfrey show!
Posted by: Cas | August 14, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
anne: I am sure the DNC got a copy and read it. Maybe this is way they have a change of heart with Hillary.
Posted by: willie | August 14, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
This is the price of the most divisive candidate ever in the history of the Democratic Party: Barack Obama.
The Party has abandonned us and Barack Obama has been the main instrument of division.
Obama is the most divisive man I have ever met.
Why so much resentment and lust?
Posted by: Minerva | August 14, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
12SeakOut – I bet my life on this one Obams will not put Hilliay as his VP – he give her to much all ready. He don’t need her ont he ticket to win. He is a smart man and playing his hand right.
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
What arrogance ? It’s clear she’s still in denial about losing. I am so glad she won’t be Obama’s VP and we can get her off the national stage for good !
Posted by: southamco | August 14, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Until Obama wins a General Election this is still the party of Bill Clinton; a person who won two General Elections for the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Gerry | August 14, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
It only confirms the fact that Hillary is nothing but George Bush in a pants suit!!! The Ego runneth over!!!
Posted by: Ray Fisher | August 14, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
It is interesting that many of the same people who kept saying that Obama couldn’t bring people together, are now saying he is a wimp for making a gesture to help bring people together!
And he is not “giving away” anything, because this decision costs him nothing.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Melanie – are you sharing McCain’s wife’s hillybilly herion (oxycotin)? You are one bitter pill. PS Praying to Jesus you don’t have a gun at home.
Posted by: daisy | August 14, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Wow! What a big mistake for Obama. To go into the convention under these circumstances will hurt Obama’s chances. My instincts tell me that Clinton is not done yet. Obama’s kindness has opened a crack in the door and let Clinton slip in. There is no way she will go quietly or tow the party line. She is a master strategist and pure politician. To bad she screwed it up during the campaign and couldn’t keep her team in line. However, redemption may be around the corner and we may see some sort of overthrow of the nomination at the convention. Simply amazing and I look forward to a possible Clinton Presidency.
Posted by: Sean | August 14, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Reports are that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have agreed to allow her name to be placed in nomination at the Democratic Convention in Denver. It appears that the Democrats are determined to lose a race it should be impossible to lose. Here’s how it’s gonna go down, boyos…
Clinton will lobby those superdelegates who supported her to vote for her in order to stay the course. She will lobby those who supported her but switched to Obama after the primaries to vote for her in order to “give an accurate count for history.” She will lobby those supporting Obama to switch support since “he can’t win, you know.” Her goal will be to keep him from winning on the first ballot, at which time all pledges are dropped and all delegates can vote for whomever they wish. She will promise all that, if she is nominated on the second ballot, she will draft Obama to be her VP.
If this works for her, she will get the democratic nomination. If that happens, Denver will make Chicago in ’68 look like Woodstock…
McCain doesn’t even have to campaign- he just needs to shut up and let the Democrats commit presidential hari-kiri…
Posted by: TJ | August 14, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Hillary will now start campaigning again so expect to suddenly see much more of her. This is a disaster for Obama. Hillary is doing this for everyones “feelings”??? please….don’t unsult our intelligence. Obama camp got suckered and will regret this day. They should be all ashamed of themselves. A majority of hillarys “millions” of votes were republican crossovers, dont be a fool.
Posted by: Lempp | August 14, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Obama and his people are truely idiots for allowing this to happen. Hillary is trying to steal the election. She doesn’t care what stands in her way or how she achieves it. The only way of uniting the democrats is by Obama telling Hillary it’s over and he won the nomination fair and square. Which would have made him a little more presidential. But now, he should be regarded as a weakling.
On the plus side, all this drama should make it easier for Mccain to win. So I suppose we should thank Hillary heh.
Posted by: Katie | August 14, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Cas – “I’m a life long Democrat but this time i will break party line and vote for McCaine” – 1) I seriously doubt you’re a Democrat, much less lifelong. 2) I could care less who you vote for.
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Hey if it keeps the lady out of the White House ina any capacity it works for me. My concern is that DNC caves on this issue then what next. She cannot and does not need to be Vice President.
Posted by: jenny | August 14, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
No way in hell will I vote for Obama. He and his wife are racists and liars. Do people not remember Rev. Wright or Michelle’s anti-America statement? Wake up people! McCain in ’08!
Posted by: voice_of_reason | August 14, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Now the super delgates will have no choice but help huillary become Obama’s vice….Because her supporters will not
stand for nothing but….
Posted by: alen | August 14, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Perhaps, Obama finally does not want to be a President…. So what is the problem for giving the nomination to HRC?
Posted by: ddnca | August 14, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
gl: This election is not about making history for the first “African American”. Coming from a black person, it about selecting the best candidate that can protect and lead out country. American first and party second.
Posted by: Quincy | August 14, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
rachel – you are dreaming Hilliary will never release her deletes. She is too full of herself!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
oh yes he does
Posted by: allen | August 14, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
01-20-2009 The end of an “ERROR”.
Posted by: pt | August 14, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
OMG…here we go again, those stupid women who cannot understand the word “NO”…She lost, get over it!!!! I cannot believe these women who fought so hard to be recognized as strong, independant, successful women “need” tohave this. How weak you all are? Do you think, if the rolls where reversed, that Obama would be demanding his name be put in? I think not….That’s why he won. Good example to your young girls mothers, “I can whine and get what I want.”
Posted by: newvoter | August 14, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Barry will not be the dem nominee. Hillary may or may not be but Barry never.
There will be a landslide victory for Republicans if Barry where the nominee..therefore it will never happen.
Posted by: Cindy | August 14, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Nooooooo!
Already comming up for excuses for Obama’s lose I see. Obama can’t be responsible for anything.
His religous affiliations to extremists.
His business affiliations with criminals.
His political affiliations to extremists.
He is not even responsible for what he is recorded saying.
“Bitter, clinging to relegion”
All he has to do is say I didn’t mean that and he is excused.
Excuse after excuse. Seems like he is a highschool or college student not a world leader.
Posted by: texas outlaw | August 14, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
IT IS A DISGRACE, BUT THE DISGRACE WILL SOON BE OVER AND WE WILL ALL MOVE FORWARD. THE LARGER ISSUE IS THESE BULLYING, THREATENING MACHINE SUPPORTERS WHO THINK THEY ARE BETTER THAN ALL OF THE REST OF US AND BELIEVE THEY DESERVE THE MOON AND THE STARS FOR HAVING SUPPORTED A FAILED CANDIDATE. THEY ARE THE SAME ONES WHO HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING AND ABIDING BY THE CLINTON “SHADOW GOVERNMENT”–AND NOT OUR DULY ELECTED OFFICIALS–EVER SINCE BILL LEFT OFFICE. THEY ARE OPERATING A GUERILLA INSURGENCY RIGHT HERE IN OUR UNITED STATES, AND THAT INSURGENCY MUST AND WILL BE SNUFFED OUT FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL. GRAB A SHOVEL.
Posted by: Rex Range | August 14, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
One thing that’s not being brought up (yet) is the pressure that’s going to be put on Obama to nominate a woman as VP. Hillary can’t win the nomination, but if she wants to, she could bring up the whole Michigan-Florida mess again and see to it that Obama loses the election and loses badly.
Also, if Obama loses the election, you can bet that the rules are going to be changed to remove Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina as the chosen first primaries and caucus and replace it with a rotating system. The votes from Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina count at the Democratic convention, but the votes from Michigan and Florida don’t. Considering the size of those 2 states versus the other 3, Pelosi is going to need to make some major deals with Florida and Michigan representatives to keep them content and well-behaved in the next 2 years.
Posted by: John | August 14, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Shouldn’t all Obama supporter be writing these posts in Spanish?
Posted by: bluebird | August 14, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Michelle Obama’s speaking role at the Democrat convention should be more of a concern than Hillary’s presentation. In spite of her previous well-publicized radical associations; and, her multiple attempts to trash our Nation, the Democrats have chosen to have Michelle Obama to be a featured speaker at their Denver Convention. It is a foregone conclusion that the Obama handlers will have Michelle chain-locked to the teleprompter with their carefully scripted commentary so as to obscure the prospective 1st lady’s deeply angry disposition towards America. What a tragic example for our children; what a disastrous blow to societal cohesion at home; what a disconcerting message to our friends and allies; and, what a comforting message to our fanatical opponents abroad; to see a woman who has expressed her beliefs that: “our souls are broken in this nation”; “blacks must join in solidarity to combat a white oppressor”; “we’re a country that is just downright mean.”; “We’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents.”; “America is guided by fear, and getting worse all the time.”; and, laments that she will face, “further integration and/or assimilation into a white culture and social structure”; to have a potential opportunity to secure the White House itself as the platform for her hate-filled dictum. All of this from a woman who has benefited enormously from affirmative actions! Along with her husband’s long-term subversive associations, his immersion in seditious anti-American diatribe; and, his recent proclamation: “I don’t want that (referring to America in its current form) for my little girls.”, has indeed revealed the Obamas as the real-life Manchurian Couple. Greg Neubeck
Posted by: Greg Neubeck | August 14, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
This still won’t get me to vote for Lord Obama. I plan on voting for Mccain. I’ve been a registered Democrat all my life, but cannot support this man.
Posted by: Wayne | August 14, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Murph:
In considering what you said concerning true Christians…..I have a question:
Do you believe someone can be a Christian and still vote for senator Obama over McCain?
The abortion issue since 1973 has had two terms of Reagan; Ford served; two terms of George Bush and 1 term of his father….all Republicans. And abortion is still legal. Do you believe that by continuing voting republicans will ever change that?
What about republicans being less concerned with the poor and down cast?
What about republicans being quick to go to war?
Posted by: shalom | August 14, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Yeah, I’m sure Hillary will be the nominee with $13 million in debt and no money for the general. You Hillary supporters are wacko.
Posted by: Iraq Vet | August 14, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
“one reason why obama lemmings are naive: obama’s campaign will soon start to look like john kerry’s and they are nowhere near prepared to withstand with the same attack campaign….”
The MSM, especially CNN and MSNBC, are heavily invested in the chosen one and aren’t going to let their cash cow go down without a fight. The crypt keeper (Larry King) and a stooge from media matters were pummelling Corsi last night. Corsi looked like an angry, bitter troll.
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
She will get a smaller number delegate count then what she had coming out of the primaries !!! Obama knows what hes doing… this is simply a symbolic gesture to wipe the tears from the eyes of the Clinton supporters… He just wants to make it known that he beat Hillary a few months ago, and he can beat her now… He can also beat McCain with “Charlie Brown” as a running mate… He does not need Hillary…
Posted by: Levi | August 14, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
By allowing Clinton’s name to be placed in nomination, she now has some control over the convention. Obama does not control the convention any more. He has to share the format with her. She can bring in her own speakers and change the format. Great job Hillary.
Posted by: Quincy | August 14, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
gl – “you are dreaming Hilliary will never release her deletes.” – I hope not! I heard releasing your deletes isn’t even legal in some states!
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
To the McCain supporter that stated “those who voted for Obama have no brains”…do you know anything about McCain? Hero, yes. Intelligent (by any measure), no. I suppose it is opposite day in the world, too….those who have no education are smart, and those with an education are stupid. Is this another “taking pride in ignorance” moment? I think it is. No one is saying a college degree is the pinnacle of intelligence or achievement, but to look down on educated with such contempt only breeds further typecasting of the uneducated. What a wonderful example to set for you children. And I have to ask: what has the Republican Party done for the working poor and middle class that gets this group to invariably vote against their self-interest? Oh, yeah, gays, guns, and bibles. While your family is struggling to put food on the table, at least you’ll have hate to get you by, right?
Oh, and Clinton supporters…what a bunch of losers. You get a massive concession and you are still talking this nonsense? What a joke. You must be in the aforementioned demographic or a women’s lib member who still thinks it’s the 60s. Your support is superfluous. So vote for half-wit McCain; it is only fitting. And I hope you enjoy a 7-2 conservative vote on the Supreme Court for the next generation. You people, McCain, and his supporters deserve each other.
Posted by: TR | August 14, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
I though reading these posts was about Party Unity. Where is my party? Am I forced to believe that there are greener pastures? So far, that is all what you guys are convincing me to.
Posted by: Lynette in Texas | August 14, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Anybody want to swap lunches? I got a cheese sammich and an apple, I think…
Posted by: Aaron | August 14, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Will the woman not just fall off the face of the earth already and do the Democrats a favor? EGO!!!!!!!! EGO!!!!!!! EGO!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Lisa Again | August 14, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
As a Hillary supporter I am really happy that the DNC decided to allow the candidate roll-call to be taken.
That is how democracy works and the Democrats would not be Democrats if this was not done.
I however feel bad because HILLARY WILL LOSE AGAIN and my nightmares will come back.
I thought I had “gotten over it” and had this behind me. Damn. Why is the DNC doing this to me?
Posted by: Steve_NJ | August 14, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
After all this bickering and “poker game” back and forth….I could care less about this convention. Like, Obama has the authority to allow her name to be put up for nomination!
This procedure has been part of the democratic party for years…
Only reason he is taking it to this step is because the Clinton die hards won’t go away…
The real vote will come in November…no bargaining back and forth then in the voting booth..
McCain is looking better and better every day this nonsense goes on…this DNC is doomed for failure…
Posted by: MollyM | August 14, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Quincy
Actually, it is just the opposite. The whole thing is part of the negotiations, so to get the roll call vote she is more likely to have to give in on something else than to have more “control.”
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Voice…what about McCain and his pasters who hate Catholics and gays…and he is totally against womens rights. HIs wife looks like a sick Barbie Doll and only speaks when spoken to. McCain has some REAL skeletons in his closet.
Posted by: newthinker | August 14, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
love this conflict…the democrats are screwed royally….they can’t be serious about running the country…
let them argue….i expect john edwards to prove he was set-up by this campaign aide, no woman in her right mind sleeps with a man without protection unless she WANTS TO GET PREGNENT…..i wonder is paid her to run this slimeball scam? Hillary? i would not put it past her or obama….John Edwards is the clear winner here….come on john wake up and see …YOU WERE SET UP FOR THIS GREAT FALL….PICK YOURSELF UP AND GET CLEAR OF IT BY EXPOSING THE SCAM.
THEN…it’s a clear the path for his independent run for the presidency….and he’ll win…stay tuned folks!
j
Posted by: j | August 14, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
I really can’t understand these so called family-value voters who say they are voting for mccain. Obama is a great example of a devoted family husband and father, whereas mccain cheated on his first wife and then left her after she was in an auto accident. Real family values huh. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | August 14, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
New voter.
Obviously a young person using texting words.
Like if Obama don’t win I will be a looser too!
This is not a game of winning and loosing like a ball game.
This is about getting it right for our future not just winning elections.
It’s not like these people are going to change their beliefs because he barly got the nomination, nor should they.
Your attitude is what is wrong with the system. People want to treat it like American Idol instead of getting right people in position to make the right changes.
Posted by: texas outlaw | August 14, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
This is a very bad idea…the Clintons speak out of both sides of their mouths to their supporters, quietly urging them on their vitriolic quest to impugn the legitimacy of Obama’s nomination. The sour grapes mentality–indeed the outright hatred spewing from her supporters–is nothing short of astonishing and disgraceful. Expect a Democratic party more divided than ever, a convention peppered with Clintonian grandstanding and upstaging, a McCain presidency owing in no small measure to Clinton’s scorched earth primary campaign, and a smugly satisfied Clinton machine that has already shifted political gears toward the 2012 election. Political dynasties are pernicious and the Clintons are no exception.
Posted by: cameotoo | August 14, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Obama 46% McCain 43%
Gallup.com
Way to go, McCain!
Posted by: Frank | August 14, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
As long as she never is a candidate for a cabinet position nor a candidate for the supreme court. she can do anything she wants. her seniority in the senate is very low and i hope the good folks of new york vote her out next time around. She is looking pathetic
Posted by: jcr | August 14, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Wayne – “I plan on voting for Mccain. I’ve been a registered Democrat all my life…” – Wow, another ‘lifelong Democrat’ voting for McCain. So ‘lifelong Democrat’ is now the codeword for Republican (caught you dude!). In any case, no one cares who you’re voting for. Hope that didn’t bruise your ego.
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
I know as a democrat I’m suppose to vote for Obama, but I just can’t get past his use of the race card, inexperience, poor judgment and now flip flops. Who is this guy???
Who knows if we are really even voting for a democrat? His stance is all over the place lately ranging from Marxist to Reaganomic.
Posted by: Dev | August 14, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Hillary is a weak pathetic woman who should have divorced her cheating husband years ago.
Barack is a weak pathetic man who should have divorced his rascist pastor years ago.
McCain in ’08!
Posted by: voice_of_reason | August 14, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Lynette in Texas
If you read a comment board where angry people are more likely to comment, then you are likely to read angry comments.
The party is not nearly as divided as the trolls and other bitter people in here want us to believe.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
big surprise, the superior intelligence of Clinton and her supporters seems like arrogance to lesser individuals….
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
O.K. SmoothNupe. Attacks like that is what makes the Hillary supporters determined to not vote for B. Hussein.
We know what your racial/ethnic background is. How is everything in the hood?
Posted by: Tony in Texas | August 14, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
“Who knows if we are really even voting for a democrat? His stance is all over the place lately ranging from Marxist to Reaganomic.”
Whatever it takes to get elected. True agenda to follow.
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
If she is not strong enough to leave her husband when he cheated on her, how will she be strong enough to lead this country ??? She acts like she’s so tough, but its an act…
Posted by: Levi | August 14, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
If someone would take a serious look at Obama’s money trail they might find the information that they need to derail his nomination. We all know that Hillary deserved the nomination but the MEDIA conspired to deny it to her when they refused to print anything unflattering to their Golden Boy during the earlky primaries. The DNC added more fuel to the fire when they obviously praised Obama every chance they got while they demonized Clinton. I hope this Convention is a complete disaster and we have more Obama-Drama for he truly is full of drama !!!
Posted by: jimbo | August 14, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
The only way there will be party unity is for Clinton, and not Obama, to be the nominee. Better make it happen or I will vote for McCain and that is a promise!
Posted by: Puma | August 14, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
I’m voting for the Dems regardless of who it is. I prefer Hillary.
Hillary won all the Blue states and Obama one the Red states. I think Hillary has a better chance of winning. Obama supporters are the reason Hillary supporters haven’t gotten behind Obama. Why are Obama supports so full of hate? Anyone that hates Hillary hates themselves!
Posted by: dkr | August 14, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
If Hillary didn’t have the cojones to stand up to her philandering husband in the 90′s, she CERTAINLY doesn’t have them to run this country.
Posted by: Bill | August 14, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Frank
That’s about where the gallup poll has been for months.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Obama camp HAD to do this or they would look insecure BUT it will do nothing for all the HILLARY FOR McCAIN supporters. She won’t be the VP choice (she’ smarter and stronger than Obama anyway and deserves top of the ticket).
For those of us who are not party loyalists and don’t just vote on platforms that may or may not come to fruition, but vote for trust, patriotism, experince, American values…Obama is not the guy.
McCain ’08/Hillary ’12
I know the Clinton’s have to show up and look all “Party Unity”, but deep inside they know the flawed, weaker candidate was pushed through the system after all his negatives were exposed in March. America is ready for a black President, just not this guy….way too many judgement calls on who he associates with. Serious voters need to read Obama Nation!
Posted by: Deb | August 14, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
First off I just would like to say I don’t understand anyone who would vote for McCain just because Hillary didn’t win. If you are a democrat you are a DEMOCRAT. Voting for McCain would just be a vote of spite not a sound one, I believe. Anyway, here is what I think is going on. Hillary IS the VP choice and by having her votes counted at the convention, Obama will use that as justification to choose her based on the will of so many voices. The surprise of it would make news for day, catch McCain by surprise and blow him out of the water. They are just smoke screening us now with names like Biden or Bayh or having Hillary speak on night 2 (they could easily change that). As I see it, Obama is just “Biden” his time and trying to “Bayh” us over with a trick. Has anyone else considered this?
Posted by: kyle | August 14, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
When Obama caves and puts Hillary on the ticket and if God forbid they win, if Hillary gets the Oval Office, Bill gets the Vice Presidents office where does Barry go?
Posted by: frank3108 | August 14, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
I agree with the statement Posted by: Calis | Aug 14, 2008 12:47:03 PM.
You fools are so wrapped up in your “Party” that nothing of substance is even debated.
Symbolism Over Substance.
I fear for my country when intellectual debate is displaced by “My **** can beat up your ****”.
Much like Children playing with firearms.
Remember that the ambitions of people have not changed. History is littered with frilly speech and despicable act of many.
Actions Are More Important Than Verbose Rhetoric.
Posted by: PainfullyAware | August 14, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
There should be a battle to the finish on the convention floor, and Hillary should be the nominee. Do you really think we want Obama? Get over it! Edwards’ cheating stole the nomination from Clinton and Obama knew about it and let it happen. He has forfeited his nomination.
Posted by: Banks | August 14, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Tony in Texas – “We know what your racial/ethnic background is. How is everything in the hood?” – That’s one of the most pathetic put downs I’ve ever seen.
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
jock59801: I hope you are right ! But this is worst than the campaign. One thing I can assure you: The Party has changed and does not support the majority anymore. This is like a bad dream. Should I compromise to all this insanity? If so, until when? I am loosing faith.
Posted by: Lynette from Tx | August 14, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
In the end, Hillary will pick Obama as a VP running mate and all will be happy! Then Bill can train him to be Pres.
Posted by: rktsci3127 | August 14, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
The joint statement quoted Clinton saying, “With every voice heard and the Party strongly united, we will elect Senator Obama President of the United States and put our nation on the path to peace and prosperity once again.”
Yes, peace, piece and prosperity! Free Lewinsky’s for everyone! Free abortions for those who want one, and free food stamps for the ones who don’t want one! Hurry, get some free air before Bush takes that away from you, and while we are giving things away, get a free tire gauge! Happy days are here again ….., well, they’re coming soon.
Posted by: thefive | August 14, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
I have a feeling there are ALOT of Republicans shaking in their boots this afternoon. LOL!
Posted by: Baggem | August 14, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Anyone who asserts that Clinton lost the primaries due to Edwards’ infidelity is not all there. I think what lost it for her was her HUSBAND’S infidelity!!!
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
She is such a Bitch and Sore Loser!!!
Posted by: Kim | August 14, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Im a Democrat, but
(insert missive full of RNC talking points)
God, I love the impersonal internet!
Posted by: Mike | August 14, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Lynette in Texas: party unity is parted during the primary. VOTE FOR MCCAIN IS A VOTE AGAINST THE DNC PARTY. SORRY OBAMA!!!
Posted by: Perry | August 14, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Let’s not forget that Obama has not clinched the nomination with pledged delegates, he needs the support of superdelegates. This means if the Clintons have dug up some devastating dirt on Obama and they dump this next week, Clinton may come out of the convention as the nominee.
If you think I am crazy head over to
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and check out the futures market, Obama is trading at 93% to win the nomination, Clinton at 5%, up 1.8% today.
Posted by: rightwingprofessor | August 14, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Puma – “Better make it happen or I will vote for McCain and that is a promise!” – Dude, get over yourself. No one cares who you’re voting for.
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
I want see a Birth Certificate before I vote for him.
Posted by: Bing | August 14, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
The resentful Obama does not have cojones. He has been threatened and defeated. The eyes of America are filled with tears. Disgrace !
Posted by: Garcia | August 14, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
I will never forgive Obama and his camp for the sexist campaign they ran to smear Hillary Clinton. He lost my vote.
Posted by: Britty | August 14, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
i will not vote for a black man ! i think black men belong in jail not the WHITEHOUSE . i hope hillary gets the vote , thats the only way i will vote in november !
Posted by: hillary supporter | August 14, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Clinton/Obama 08
She would have picked him a long time ago to bring the party together. Obama and his supports have no reason to hate Hillary!
The Clintons have done more for our party than anyone in the party. What has Obama done? Yes he offers hope but that’s not enough.
Never a Repug again, never!
Posted by: DKR | August 14, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
I propose we do away with the two-party system. I want all congressmen and house representatives FIRED, and American can vote for who they want, not just the ‘lesser of two evils’. The system is BROKEN.
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Lynette from Tx
No, you should not compromise anything. You should vote for the candidate that you think will be best for the country. Period. Everybody should, and most people will.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
What is the big deal.Every convention they do a roll call. It’s not like it was just created.
Posted by: J | August 14, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
It’s funny how Obama supporters take aim at Bill and Hillary being a political couple, but are just fine with he and Michelle.
Posted by: texas outlaw | August 14, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Mr. Obama did not appear to be a damn fool, but now I am having my doubts. Letting the Clintons speak is about as smart as choosing Mrs. Clinton to be VP. If she was VP Obama would have to watch his back.
Posted by: Mary Bastida | August 14, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
If she is not strong enough to leave her husband when he cheated on her, how will she be strong enough to lead this country ??? She acts like she’s so tough, but its an act…
Posted by: Levi | August 14, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Texas outlaw–Barak and Michelle don’t have the history of narcissism and underhanded-ness that the Clinton’s have, thus they’re hardly comparable.
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Quincy – I don’t need your opinion! White people think this world belong to them only and it doesn’t. It is time someone other then white people run this world. White will be the miniority very soon anyway!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
hillary supporter
No one believes you are a Hillary supporter. That was kind of a pathetic attempt.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
No matter how the media spins it, it is simple:
The Democratic Party is divided beyond repair this year and the GOP will rule again for the next 4 years.
It wasn’t Obama’s or Hillary’s fault…it was the DNC and the likes of Dean, Pelosi, Ried, Kerry, and Kennedy.
A Democrat all my life and this year, I’m ashamed of my own party!
Posted by: david from texas | August 14, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
BHO strikes again with a weak move. Why not chose her as his VP running mate? The man along is just not ready to be President at this time. Maybe later.
Posted by: William | August 14, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
BHO strikes again with a weak move. Why not chose her as his VP running mate? The man along is just not ready to be President at this time. Maybe later.
Posted by: William | August 14, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
The bloger that said black men should be in jail needs to be shot! You’re not a Hillary supporter your a repug trying to make Hillary supporters look bad! Get a life.
Posted by: DKR | August 14, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
This issue concerning abortion must be reconciled as it pertains to voting Republican or Democrat….
Who is responsible when a 26 year old unmarried woman decides to abort her child? Who is to be held accountable? Her doctor? Her parents? What about her? Senator Obama? Her neighbor? Who?
If John McCain becomes president, will he change this? Will he have an answer to this question?
People must take responsibility for their actions, and stop blaming the US gov’t for their choices in life…..
I am not convinced that only pagans vote Democratic; and Christians vote Republicans…..I am not convince of that…
Posted by: shalom | August 14, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
You have to be careful with Obama. He only knows about fake winning utilizing unsubstance and dirty tricks and self portraying himself as the big victim. Enough ! Hillary Clinton is better off.
If Hillary is not the nominee, I am voting for McCain.
Posted by: Stan | August 14, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
BHO strikes again with a weak move. Why not chose her as his VP running mate? The man along is just not ready to be President at this time. Maybe later.
Posted by: William | August 14, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Melanie – I’ve read your repetitive negative posts. For years the US Congress has been at odds with the President. Whoever steps into the White House has to heal that divide if America is going to address SERIOUS problems at home: Energy, Health Care, Infrastructure. Obama is not exhibiting “delusion of grandeur” or proving he’s “incapable”. He’s showing how to reach across the aisle, heal wounds, save face, and find ways to build consensus. The Clintons are who they are – he’s working it to his advantage.
Posted by: CaliRules | August 14, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Obama’s the best man for the job. He is an American. Period! I look at all the evil hateful Hillary supporters and wonder what they are speaking of when they say that about Obama supporters. You know what? Keep your old votes or vote for McSame! You lost either way. Hillary lost in the primaries and McCain is a loser.
God and one make a majority! Quote from the greatest Republican, Frederick Douglass! We are going to keep on pressing for Obama, we are going to break that glass ceiling even though you want plexiglass there. Obama all the way, no one else. Period!
Posted by: Vegas | August 14, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
She should be VP. That makes her the President of the Senate. She’ll keep them in line…
Posted by: Playin Possum | August 14, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
This is wonderful. The only reason Osama/Obama is where he is at is because of the color of his skin and many people are voting for him for this reason alone. All of my black friends are voting for him but they know nothing about his campaign. McCain will take Hillary down in a landslide. Sweet! McCain 08. Has a great ring to it.
Posted by: RS | August 14, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Poor Frank,
Check this out. Your man is down by almost 7 Points.
ELECTORAL COLLEGE
Obama 302
McCain 236
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html
Posted by: Steve_NJ | August 14, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
The streak of ruthless, arrogant elitism so prominent in Barack Obama’s makeup, and his dishonesty, just can’t be hidden
His campaign didn’t want Hillary’s name put in nomination, but the rules evidently required it. So, rather than admit Obama had no power to stop her being nominated, a “deal” to “allow” her name was “made”.
If Obama is elected, he will be a left-wing dicatator. But then, we’re already practically a thrid wolrd country due to massive immigration and exporting jobs to other countries.
Posted by: RPhillips | August 14, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
“If Obama gets the nom, I’m voting McCain!” If this is the intelligence level of our voting public, I’m leaving.
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
This could get really interesting. I agree Senator Clinton’s name should be placed in nomination. However, if her campaign has any devastating ‘dirt’ on Senator Obama it’ll be leaked to the media in about a week. Stay tuned.
Posted by: Bubbler Dad | August 14, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Scott – “The best choice would be Arnold Swartzennager for president with Tony Blair as his vice-president.” – What about Chuck Norris for President and Arnold Swartzennager for Vice-President?
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
chris
Obviously people differ in what they think is best for our country. That is why we have elections.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
texas outlaw – Becasue Hilliary thinks her and Bill is suppose to win becasue they are spoiler!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Its crazy everyone calling everyone racist and sexist for defending there canidate. Threatening to vote across the board if there man or woman is not nominated. I personally say so what if Hillary steals the nomination and by steal I mean “gets”. So be it, I dont fully trust her but I am not voting for McCain Who is pretending not to be in bed with Bush when it is so obvious that the same people that Bush used to devestate McCain when they ran against one another in their past primary are now pushing to get McCain elected.
I dont think McCain is a bad man i just think he has surrendered his style of politics to bad people.
Anyhow Hillary need not die at any man’s podium, Scott. Congress would be much better off with her alive
Obama is not the anti-christ the term itself is a tool used by the “religion machine” to keep us enslaved by the false prophecies we’ve been spoon fed as children. Just more propaganda designed to have us fearing a new more even way of communicating.
Oh ya and McCain his name is not McSame that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard just because it rhymes how childish can we be… besides I think McSimilar is way more accurate.
Posted by: Light of the Rebellion | August 14, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
I hope the Obama campaign knows what they are doing. This is like swimming with sharks.
Posted by: HonestAbe | August 14, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
to the detriment of her and her husband, she championed the idea of Americans’ right to health care years before it has become a central issue that any serious candidate must address….
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Hilary would sell Chelsea down the river to get what she wants. Her and Bill should move to Russia and hang out with Putin.
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Oh goody goody gumdrops!! I knew Hillary would not let her reputation of being ruthless go! Yupee! Poor Obama, I mean, you gotta feel sorry for him in this instance. Sleazy Chicago politics against the Clntons. I think I’ll buy some popcorn during the convention! A community organizer with 143 days as Senator against an attorney with 15 felon friends and ex-first lady who couldn’t find her Rose law firm files for two years. Gee, the Democrat Party has these two as their front people? Gosh, and the party let Bayh, Warner and Bill Richardson stay by the sidelines! Oh, my sides hurt so much in laughing! They’ve run out of limousines for the convention. Oh, I’m laughing. A former ex-Pres. candidate ran on two Americas caught cheating on his wife who said he got too smug and elitist and builds himself a 10,000 sq ft. house! Oh, this is toooo funny! I think SNL should replay that skit when Obama calls Clinton at 3am. Oh, I’m laughing! Funny!!!!
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Posted by: Roger Weber | August 14, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
No matter what is done at the Democratic convention, a very sizable number of Hillary supporters will never vote for Obama. Out of 32 Hillary supporters I know who live in NJ, NY, Mass, Tex, and Ga, 3 will vote for Obama, 6 will not vote, and 23 will vote for McCain. The media keeps saying Hillary supporters will come around. It’s working the other way. The more is known about Obama, the less the Hillary people are supporting him. We all know she is a captive of the party, but we’re not.
Posted by: MVPeach10 | August 14, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
From reading these posts, it seems there are more people against Obama than I have ever seen! I’m afraid, if Hillary is not the nominee, then McCain will be President!
BTW, “The Obama Nation” is a good read. You should buy it and invest in the truths about Barack Obama!
Posted by: david from texas | August 14, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
If by hook or “crook” Hillary somehow gets the nomination, I encourage all Obama supporters to please don’t vote for McCain, just don’t vote, let your opinions be heard loud and clear through ever media possible that Bill and Hillary stole the nomination and that they will stop at nothing to get what they want. NO to Hillary for president and NO to Hillary for VP!!
Posted by: LANNY EDWARDS | August 14, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
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Posted by: Wow | August 14, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Both candidates know exactly what they’re doing. Senator Obama knows he needs to bring the party together and having Senator Clinton on the nomination helps this. Senator Clinton realizes if Senator Obama loses the GE that she will be blamed unless she does her best to heal the rift in the party.
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
If Obama on vacation, if so, who is pulling the rope…..LOL
Posted by: willie | August 14, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Levi
Not strong enough to leave her husband? They married for better or worst! She did the Christian thing and forgave him. What a lame excuse for not voting for someone. Do you have any idea how many people cheat? If you really love someone you work it out. Get a life. BTW McStupid cheated and has no family values!
Send all Repugs to Iraq and let them have their own country there. Seem as though the only thing Repugs are good at is destroying countries!
Posted by: DKR | August 14, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
I do not trust Hillary. This could produce more divisivness. I don’t think it was a wise decision to do this If Hillary were a man, this would never be happening. A man would have conceded and let it go, albeit mpossibly with some lingering bad feelings. I am a W-female so no gender bias here, I just don’t trust her!
Posted by: eyeonyou | August 14, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
in a country where a fluff piece like American Idol is the top-rated show, why am I so surprised that obama has so many cult-like followers?
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
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Since Hillary won MORE THAN 50% of the votes in the primaries, and the Dems claim to support democracy, then she will be the nominee. Right?
And certainly the Dems would not stoop so low as to allow Kerry-like shallow, arrogant, platitude-spouting, elitist, inexperienced, narcissistic, flip-flopping gas-bag – who is so mentally deficient from extensive drug use he even has to plagiarize his hollow platitudes, to hijack the nomination with fewer votes than Hillary received. Right?
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Posted by: ALEX H. | August 14, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Hillary is actually better when up against the wall, as proven in her strengthening primary performance (BO lost the last 9 out of 14, and she won the big blue states NOT BO). He was exposed too late (after his Feb. wins) and Obama Nation had not been published yet. As much as the Axlerod Management team wants us not to question anything regarding the anointed one…it’s all coming out and will be common knowledge by Nov.
Why is angry Michelle speaking the first night, when they’ve muzzled her so successfully lately? Someone must really be working on a speech for her as I type, and hopefully she can fake a smile that night….she reminds be of Naomi Campbell with their anger management problem. Why is she such an unhappy, angry woman? I can’t stand listening to her, even more than her stuttering husband.
McCAIN ’08/HILLARY ’12
Posted by: Deb | August 14, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
The media keeps saying Hillary supporters will come around. It’s working the other way. The more is known about Obama, the less the Hillary people are supporting him. We all know she is a captive of the party, but we’re not.
Posted by: MVPeach10 | Aug 14, 2008 1:28:03 PM
I live on the east coast, North Carolina to be exact! I see this happening more each day. The more Obama is vetted, the more people are recanting their support of him. Whats more, with John Edwards and his dispicable escapade, people in N C have, in their minds, locked Edwards to Obama. Now, we feel that Obama knew all along about Edwards and has publicly thrown him under the bus. Sorry, Obama supporters, (and I WAS one at one time), Obama has shown weakness thru his flip flops and pandering here lately. More and more North Carolinians are turning against him as we get closer to November.
Posted by: teddy | August 14, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Typical Democratic way to face a problem…..just do anything to appease people, even though it has nor serves an legitimate purpose.
Posted by: pfbcne1 | August 14, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Obama is a loser—no doubt about it.
“Sreamin” Dean and the DNC definitely put up the wrong candidate; but they won’t admit it. It’s obvious, the guy cannot break 50%. What a shame–the democratic party really had a chance to win back the WH–if they would have backed a winning candidate. Clinton would have easily won over McCain, it’s that simple.
This election is a real joke.
Posted by: NielPA | August 14, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
I’m glad to see Hillary’s name placed in nomination. However, I won’t vote for Obama, even if he chose her as his running mate. When he said he’d raise the capital gains tax in the “interest of fairness,” whether or not it increased tax revenue, he lost me. That was probably the most stupid comment I’ve ever heard from a politician.
Posted by: Anjeanette | August 14, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Reading these blogg white people are the most racist out of any race group. They have some much to lose and they are very angry about Obama being the next President. Watch and see how many of these White nuts go on a shotting spree closing it get to the election.
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
CaliRules,
How has he shown he can bring everyone and everything together?
With all that he did in the Senate?
Nothing.
Has he brought Democratic party together?
No
Has he won over the 18 million that did not vote for him in the primary?
No
There is nothing to indicate that he can do this other then his words.
The problem with that is his words on the same topic change with the wind, so tell me why you so infatically say he has shown that he can do it?
Posted by: texas outlaw | August 14, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Soooo much hate in these comments! Let’s be honest – in the end, BHO gets his nomination and HRC gets some time in the spotlight. ALL (at least most) Democrats will rally around the Nominee and work to make sure that we have a filibuster-proof Congress, and a Dem in the White House. Anything else will almost ensure defeat.
Posted by: FIDO | August 14, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
I’m a Obama supporter and I’m not worried about those disaffected Clinton supporters. If Obama loses, the Democratic party will lose it’s biggest constituency. For many years, over 90 percent of African-Americans have voted for the Democratic party. They have voted for white men for years. Now that a black man has the nomination, you have so many Democrats defecting to the McCain camp.
What if it were Edwards vs. Clinton (puttng his infideltiy issues aside), that Clinton supporters would move into the Edwards camp without any problems.
The Clintons know this and are using it to their political advantage.
As I said, I’m not worried, Hillary will never be president of the United States the way the parties are currently aligned. I’m confident there are caucasian and hispanic voters that will not vote for Hillary either.
God bless whomever is the next President of the United States.
Posted by: Marvin | August 14, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
chris – “in a country where a fluff piece like American Idol is the top-rated show, why am I so surprised that obama has so many cult-like followers?” – So, you have two candidates with devoted supporters, but the Obama supporters are labled ‘cult-like’. Perhaps you’re not seeing things objectively. This tends to be one of the first things that happens when you join a cult, by the way.
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
+++++++++++++++++OMG+++++++++++++++++++
Posted by: grailh | August 14, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
If some of you don’t like Obama fine, but he is the Democratic candidate and your choice will be either McShame or Obama. Hillary is not part of the picture so get over it! the soomer you get over it the better for everyone.
Posted by: eyeonyou | August 14, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Botton line Whites have a real problem with voting for any black man. But there are more then whites in this world and Obama will win without some of the hater white votes.
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Ok, Obama didn’t want Florida and Michigan to count in the primaries.
The DNC gave Florida and Michigan 1/2 votes.
Obama changed his mind and wants Florida and Michigan to get FULL votes at the convention.
Hillary now has her name in nomination and will take Florida and Michigan at the Convention.
Hillary will come away with more delegates and win the nomination.
Hillary has Obama by the b*lls and will win the Presidency in November.
Posted by: TJ | August 14, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Gl,
Your an Idot.
Posted by: texas outlaw | August 14, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
MVPeach10,
You are a liar.
I am a Hillary supporter and party organizer and the picture you are attempting to paint of Hillary supporters is blatantly false.
Of the Hillary voters who said they will not vote for Obama about 18% were sexist Repug women who crossed over to vote for a woman.
Nice to note that 5% are staying to vote for Obama (about 23% of Hillary voters were crossover Republicans).
So the Dems had a net gain of 5% so Hillary contributed quite a bunch to Obama’s eventual victory in November.
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Posted by: Virginia Harris | August 14, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
About supposed Clinton supporters who now say they’ll go against her expressed wishes and vote for the guy who will do his best to further curtail women’s rights: I suppose cutting off your nose to spite your face makes it easier to stick your head up your butt.
Posted by: James McPherson | August 14, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Most of you bloggers make me sick. You are so caught up in what you want that you can’t see which candidate would really make the best president. “Rhys” Wake up (1)The PEOPLE don’t want Hillary as president. (2) She is no more qualified to be president than my mailman. “Ahorner” You must not know very many people if you don’t know anyone who is going to vote for Obama.
Posted by: Juice | August 14, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Happiness is “watching Liberals eat their own”.
Posted by: Homer Simpson | August 14, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
I hope the Obama campaign knows what they are doing. This is like swimming with sharks.
Posted by: HonestAbe | Aug 14, 2008 1:26:05 PM
He is swimming with them now. Nancy Pelosi, Larry Reid, Howard Deans, Joho Kerry, the Kennedy, and many other sharks of the DNC party. Obama cannot make a move without the approval of the DNC sharks family.
Posted by: willie | August 14, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
If Hillary where to actually be nominated, delegates are not bound by voters, the Democratic Party would be split and we truely would have the opportunity to have a three party system
This is truely a bizzare comment. Is the claim here that the idealogical differences between Obama and Clinton are so stark that a third American political party must exist to account for this? This while the right-wing spectrum of militants, upper-class welfare, big socialized military and defense spending, ultra-conservatives, moral majority, big debt spending and low taxes for the rich and socialized capitalism supporting so-called “small” government advocates, pro-gun AND pro-”life” advocates all form (I’m sure I’ve left out many other parts of this bizzare idealogical spectrum) a collective Republican hive-mind of social and parasitical pariahs that would have no political existence worth mentioning outside of America — that’s clearly one political party?
Posted by: Dean | August 14, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
I still have HOPE for Hillary to get the
nomination. Isn’t that what Obama is running on….HOPE and CHANGE…
Otherwise my vote will go to McCain because he has the experience.
Posted by: Brigitte F. | August 14, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
i think i’m still voting for clinton Just write it in.
Posted by: hamil10 | August 14, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
TJ – “Hillary has Obama by the b*lls and will win the Presidency in November” – Wake up, you’re dreaming.
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
The media keeps saying Hillary supporters will come around. It’s working the other way. The more is known about Obama, the less the Hillary people are supporting him. We all know she is a captive of the party, but we’re not.
Posted by: MVPeach10 | Aug 14, 2008 1:28:03 PM
I live on the east coast, North Carolina to be exact! I see this happening more each day. The more Obama is vetted, the more people are recanting their support of him. Whats more, with John Edwards and his dispicable escapade, people in N C have, in their minds, locked Edwards to Obama. Now, we feel that Obama knew all along about Edwards and has publicly thrown him under the bus. Sorry, Obama supporters, (and I WAS one at one time), Obama has shown weakness thru his flip flops and pandering here lately. More and more North Carolinians are turning against him as we get closer to November.
Posted by: teddy | August 14, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Good golly, Miss Molly!!! Have the DEM’s lost their grasp of reality with the Clintonian evnironment?! Has the vapors overcome reason in this whole affair?! Oh, and big deal, Chelsea may appear to introduce her mother!!! She’ll have to fight her father for the mic.
Posted by: KevinH | August 14, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
blah, blah, blah!
It doesn’t matter who said what, when the day comes I’m writing in Hillary!!!
Posted by: Tiffany | August 14, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Chris, I agree.
The Obama supporters sound just like
they have the Republican attitude they have been saying he is going to change.
They just want to say they won and are for a winner. It’s about the blacks finally being represented not what he really is.
Posted by: texas outlaw | August 14, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Tiffany–You’d have better luck writing in Spongebob Squarepants when the day comes.
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Obama had to allow her as it is the practice at the convention. Like everything he does, he takes one position and then has to change it (he seems to do that a lot). However, I think this one is too little too late. The way I do math, Hillary would have been the nominee (or very close to it) if not for the superdelegates and wasn’t it the Obama camp who were saying that the supers should vote the way of the people instead of doing their own thing and don’t forget that there were a number of supers who never committed. If he doesn’t have her as his VP, nothing else he does now will make much difference. There are no names who have been mentioned for VP who would have the support that Hillary has.
Posted by: Susan | August 14, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
H-I-L-L-A-R-Y!!!!
“Madame President, Hillary Rodham Clinton!”
Posted by: carpe' diem | August 14, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Michele would make a deadly vooddoo and would prepare a deadly potion to Hillary and will place Bill in the freezer in in ice cubes to get what she wants.
Her and Barack, are real cons and they should move with Jeremiah and take their inability, cowardiness and frustratrion. Satan go away !! And the fake Jackie O, pls go away too !!
Posted by: Mildred the witch | August 14, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Maybe there is something about the Obama rumors. Seems that after listening to 20 years of Rev Wright that he wasn’t inculcated into the “message”, he is either “dumb” or telling an outright lie. He and Edwards make a good team.
Posted by: Marty, Boston | August 14, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Will you people get a life? DNC rules lets her name be put in nomination, she isn’t going to get the nomination, Obama is, it’s as simple as that. So all you conspiracy theorists can go home now, it ain’t going to happen. geez.
Posted by: jj | August 14, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
What the black that will not vote for Obama? I am African American and I am not voting for Obama but I love his wife. There are many black that will not vote for Obama. Man, it is not about the color,
Posted by: willie | August 14, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
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Posted by: BHO | August 14, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
I am SO sick of hearing people talk about Reverand Wright. I grew up in a very strict Southern Baptist church. I attended every Sunday until I was 18. However, I don’t agree with the pastor’s racist, homophobic and altogether exclusionary view on life. I can think for my own, and Obama can too.
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
obama gave more money to superdelegates than Hillary did, and he was raking in record amounts of money, much of it from corporate donors (not the corporations themselves, just their high-ranking officials and spouses and spouses of lobbyists, so he’s technically correct that he does not take money from such special interests themselves), so the superdelegates knew who the golden cow was….
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
H-I-L-L-A-R-Y!!!!
H-I-L-L-A-R-Y!!!!
H-I-L-L-A-R-Y!!!!
H-I-L-L-A-R-Y!!!!
H-I-L-L-A-R-Y!!!!
H-I-L-L-A-R-Y!!!!
H-I-L-L-A-R-Y!!!!
H-I-L-L-A-R-Y!!!!
H-I-L-L-A-R-Y!!!!
H-I-L-L-A-R-Y!!!!
Posted by: BHO | August 14, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
I’m a democrat and I hate this idea. We should just hand it over to McCain and disolve the democratic party.
Posted by: vicki | August 14, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Willie:
You can vote for whoever you want to….
Your skin color is not important at this time……
And you can like his wife all you want to…..I’m sure he likes her too…
You seem to have some issues…
Posted by: shalom | August 14, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Hillary for VP of course, its her way to be President. Remember her Kennedy comments? What is she really hoping for?
Posted by: Theory | August 14, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Susan – “However, I think this one is too little too late.” – Honestly, would it have really mattered to you if he had done this earlier?
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
BHO, you went as a child, Obama as an adult made a choice to attend that church with the lovely Rev. Wright.
Posted by: Tiffany | August 14, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Chris, You’re so right. We DO need, desperately, a 60′s liberal in the White House.
* One who has been internationally
humiliated due to a spousal affair,
* One whose first excursion
into “public service”, Healthcare
reform, flopped even with a
Democratic majority in Congress & led
to a GOP sweep in ’94.
* One whose solipsism knows no bounds. * The Military? give me a break!
Her hubby gutted the military
remember the “peace dividend”?)
* Families? What do we need those for?
Marxist doctrine (& Hillary’s Book)
clearly says “It Takes a Village”
Yeah, that’s the ticket!
Elmer
Posted by: Elmer Mudd | August 14, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Obama, you wimp! You won. Ignore her!
You can’t stand up that snake woman? How will you do against Iran? Russia?
Posted by: JerryFLA | August 14, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
hillary supporter – Your mother and your whole family belong in jail – you racist big. BIG, BIG, AND BIG. Bring it on you so called Hilliary supporter. I had it up to her with you white haters! Bring it on!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Obama has become a fiasco and an embarrassement to the US. Obama, pls, just go away once for all ! What a phony LOSER and MADFIOSO!
Posted by: Melanie | Aug 14, 2008 1:45:14 PM
EXCELLENT STATEMENT!
Posted by: Franklin, TN | August 14, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
I hate to admit I am a democrat anymore I feel what was done to Hillary Clinton was a slap in the face for all women. I heard Obama speak at the last convention or 2000 and knew there was someone great. I do not like being told because I vote for Hillary I am uneducated while Obama is getting the educated vote. My parents both staunch republicans switched parties to vote for Hillary in the Pa primaries. I don’t like to be told I am a racist because I am not going to vote for Obama…I will if he does pick Hillary , but Dean and Pelosi will stop that I am sure. Our other Senator from Pa Casey is speaking Tuesday night before Hillary…a pro life candidate another slap from the Obama team towards women. Obama is an amazing orator and I don’t want someone in office that will speak above me rather than to the population. The Democrats screamed in 2001 when Bush was declared winner and yet Gore had the popular vote , now we have a sure winner on our hands that has one every major state needed to win an election plus the popular vote and we are going with the junior Senator with the fabulous oratory skills. And as for Mccain I think he just might say F#@K it to his party and bring in someone with a punch that will have people thinking he just may be playing along party lines now but he will go back to the fiery guy he was pre 2000 before the Bush machine humiliated him and his family. And as for the Super Delegates going against who their state voted for SHAME on them come their next election cycle.
Posted by: Gay Angst | August 14, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
People that say they are a “Republican supporting Obama” are either the biggest fools in humanity OR are fifth columnist/propaganda agents sent by the “messiah” himself. Obama counters almost every Republican principle.
Posted by: Paul | August 14, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
It doesn’t surprise me that somehow Hillary managed to make the Democratic Convention ALL ABOUT HER. She and Bill just can’t stand anything LESS than being in the spotlight and are so power hungry, they will do ANYTHING to get what they want. This is what Hillary had planned all along and hooray for her that Obama is stupid enough to go for this deal. What a scum-sucking piece of white trash Hillary is and I say that because that’s what she IS, not because I’m black, because I’m NOT. I’m as white as the driven snow. John Edwards could never be as narcissistic as Hillary is. John Edwards could never be as much of a scum of the earth in morals as Bill Clinton is, yet Bill and Hillary are front and center of this whole convention and Edwards is an outcast for doing the same thing Bill did when he was president. I hope Hillary comes away from that convention embarrassed and rejected like she deserves to be!!
Posted by: Jen | August 14, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Michele would make a deadly vooddoo and would prepare a deadly potion to Hillary and will place Bill in the freezer in in ice cubes to get what she wants.
Her and Barack, are real cons and they should move with Jeremiah and take their inability, cowardiness and frustratrion. Satan go away !! And the fake Jackie O, pls go away too !!
Posted by: Mildred the Witch | August 14, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
If this country is soo ready for Obama’s change, the why are the polls so close?
Let me guess. It’s Hillary’s fault.
Well, if he is what all of you make him out to be this would not be the case.
I think more and more people are realizing he is not what they thought he was. If he does not listen to the 18million that voted for Hillary, then he is going to have some real problems come November.
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Posted by: teddy | August 14, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
F Obama. Unless Clinton is the VP choice I am voting for McCain and I am bringing several friends with me to do the same.
Posted by: John | August 14, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
CORSI’S BOOK ON OBAMA DEBUNKED AS TRASH
Visit:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200808040005
for a lengthy rebuttal if you have really read that trash heap.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | August 14, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
When we last had a Democrat in the White House (Bill Clinton- 1993-2001):
The budget was balanced;
Unemployment was at an all time low;
Fuel cost was 1/3 as much;
The dollar was worth twice as much;
Real wages went up;
Inflation was historically low;
More people were off of welfare than ever before;
More people were elevated to the middle class;
We weren’t fighting wars all over the globe;
And the US had the respect of its Allies for its commitment to human rights.
Happy days are here again!
Posted by: Gerry | August 14, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Willie:
You can vote for whoever you want to….
Your skin color is not important at this time……
And you can like his wife all you want to…..I’m sure he likes her too…
You seem to have some issues…
Posted by: shalom | Aug 14, 2008 1:46:21 PM
Are you telling me that a black person has issues if they do not vote for Obama? So sad….
Posted by: willie | August 14, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
The King Is Dead.
Long Live the Queen!
Posted by: Reality check | August 14, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Chris said: “obama’s a hypocrite who relies on his minions to do his dirty work, is utterly devoid of foresight, inspires his lemmings to act racist and sexist on his behalf and cannot take it upon himself to accept responsibility for anything negative he has done.”—–Sounds a LOT like Hilary’s hubby.
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
It doesn’t matter whether Hillary gets her token honor or not. I wouldn’t vote for a sleaze like Obama if he paid me (which, by the way, isn’t beneath him.) He changes colors (no pun intended) so quickly, even he has to be told which positions he supports and which he doesn’t.
Posted by: julesuc | August 14, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
John,
Vote for MCWarMonger. Who cares.
You wil still lose you RepubLoser.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | August 14, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Na, na, nanna boo boo, Hillary’s right behind you (Obama). Better watch out! Gosh, I haven’t bought my popcorn yet. To see the DNC squirm is too funny. They are in trouble. If Obama can’t hold off Hillary, then how the heck can he run against terrorists, rogue nations, Russia and the Republicans? Please, someone get Obama back from Hawaii!
Posted by: justrighttoo | August 14, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
I’m a lifelong republican voting for Hillary!
Posted by: DEMO | August 14, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
And the suspens continue! I support Obama but what is going on with those fox. I am starting to be tired of this game and if I am tired so for thousands more people.
Posted by: GoDem | August 14, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
I am just going to say this. If you want change in this country and you are a clinton supporter, how can you vote for Mccain? Its seems like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. You would rather have 4 more years of the same thing then vote for a chance at change because you didnt get your way. If clinton was the better person for the job then she would of won. If things were differnet and she had won would all of this trying to get on the ballot stuff even been coming up if it was Obama? I say no because people would of said he not entitled to anything. But since she is a white woman and a Clinton people want thier voice heard. Something about that is not right.
Posted by: dennard | August 14, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
OH MY GOD!! LET THIS WITCH DIE .. I AM SO SICK OF THE CLINTON FAMILY.. SHE IS SUCH A RACIST .. AND NO I AM NOT BLACK .. I AM WHITE .. GIVE IT UP HILLARY, YOU LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND YES, TO A BLACK MAN !!! I KNOW YOU CAN’T BELIEVE IT BUT IT’S TRUE!!
Posted by: DEBORAH | August 14, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Hillary for VP? Bad idea for Barrack. Wouldn’t at all surprise me when Obama mysteriously ends up with a bullet in his head and then guess who just happens to be in line for the White House…The Clinton Thug Regime. If Obama puts Hillary on as VP, he might as well be signing his own death certificate. Wouldn’t be the first mysterious death surrounding the Clinton’s.
Posted by: Rick V | August 14, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Hillary won’t be able to get the nomination unless something really bad comes out about Obama in the next few weeks (a scandal like Edwards’). Otherwise, no one is going to unseat Obama because all the people who have used racism as the only reason anyone has a problem with Obama, will use it again and the democrats in power are afraid of the issue. However, the smartest thing McCain could do is to nominate a female for his VP if Hillary isn’t the democratic choice. McCain would win for sure.
Posted by: Susan | August 14, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
come on people…hillary isn’t going to be the vp…you need to get over it NOW.
this isn’t a popularity contest so stop taking her loss so personally. this campaign is bout the country not you.
i cannot believe you people are still having difficulty moving on. could be you are all people who resist change or getting your way? come on, get real…obama will be the democratic pick and he will pick whom he feels right. she will end up being secretary of state or defense. now GET OVER YOURSELVES AND JOIN THE REST OF US IN REALITY!
Posted by: hemnebob | August 14, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
She will get a smaller number delegate count then what she had coming out of the primaries !!! Obama knows what hes doing… this is simply a symbolic gesture to wipe the tears from the eyes of the Clinton supporters… He just wants to make it known that he beat Hillary a few months ago, and he can beat her now… He can also beat McCain with “Charlie Brown” as a running mate… He does not need Hillary…
Not more needs to be said! I totally agree! Great Statment!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Chris… you calling it naivete doesn’t make it so. But it depends on what your definition of “doesn’t” is. And he did not. Have. Sexual. Relations. With that woman. Right?
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
It does not matter if her name is placed into nomination. It does not matter if her name is on the ballot in November, because guess what? McCain will win. Just like Hillarys voters are sore losers, watch and see what all of the Obama supporters will do.
If Hillary cheats McCain ’08!!!!!
Posted by: America White | August 14, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
justrighttoo
Hillary is not an enemy.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
The last time Michele Obama’s kitchen burst into flames doing her Voodoo. Be prepared..the stadium will have thousands of Voodoo dolls now. F..ing vulgar witch !!
Posted by: Dolore4s | August 14, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
HRC lost and now needs to GO AWAY like a good soldier. I do not see any of the Republican also-rans with their faces in the camera like Queen Clinton. The whole Clinton clan has been voted off the island – the people have spoken.
BTW – I love the idea of having Monica Lewinski at the convention. It would be crass and crude, but Hillarious!!!!
Posted by: james in texas | August 14, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
The Democrat Party is still the party of Bill Clinton until another Democrat is elected to the White House. When we last had a Democrat in the White House (Bill Clinton- 1993-2001):
The budget was balanced;
Unemployment was at an all time low;
Fuel cost was 1/3 as much;
The dollar was worth twice as much;
Real wages went up;
Inflation was historically low;
More people were off of welfare than ever before;
More people were elevated to the middle class;
We weren’t fighting wars all over the globe;
And the US had the respect of its Allies for its commitment to human rights.
Happy days are here again!
Posted by: Gerry | August 14, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
It is really time for this two faced bitch to go away for good, she is trying her hardest to steal the election away from ”Obama” I really think her sneaky dirty rotten hubsand had alot to do with this, I bet he had some good dirt on someone, and told somebody either my wife get’s on the roll call for the nomination, or I will release this information to the news media, I wouldn’t trust those dirty Clinton’s, at all. They will do anything at all to get back in power, I never thought I would say this, but if she steals the nomination away from ”Obama” the afro americams that were for ”Senator Obama to be next president all across america, should take to the streets in protest. Obama was fairly nominated fair and square, Hillary needs to get the Hell over it!!!
Posted by: frank | August 14, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Obama and the voters do not know what kind of reptile they are dealing with.
VP? Think again.
Not long before the convention starts, there will be some horrible news released about obama, just like edwards suffered the leaks which drove him out of the VP slot.
Posted by: Charlie | August 14, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
doug……its too bad the past is in the past….that way, obama’s voting record on iraq being nearly the same as Hillary wouldn’t matter as much…..i guess his actions speak louder than his words….
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Wait and see. For every delegate who votes for HRC, BHO will keep the tally: “racists, racists, racist.” That’s the arrogance of this man – those who are against him can’t be against him because of changing policy, thin veneer of experience, or just plain ignorance. The convention ought to be interesting to watch.
Posted by: Frustrated Voter | August 14, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
If you support Barack Obama and Hillary “steals” the nomination, how could you possibly vote for that woman? If you support Hillary and let Barack Obama “steal” what is rightfully hers, how could you possibly vote for that inexperienced newcomer? Boy, you Dems have alot to fight about, Good Luck! See you in November :)
Posted by: Thanks | August 14, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Out of respect Hillary should be placed in nomination. However, those that think this will change anything are being very naive. Do you honestly think the delegates will change their minds and put the party in further turmoil. No they won’t.
Posted by: erin | August 14, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Hey smoothnupe: You’re a jerk. I guess Obama isn’t the only one playing the race card. Frankly, I’m tired of it. I don’t mind calling a spade a spade. Woops, was that a crackerism?
Posted by: bill | August 14, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Hillary owes nothing to the DNC or Obama. When she makes her speech she should tear him and McCain apart. The vote is the next day. SAVE AMERICA VOTE HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Vote Hillary | August 14, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Any Democrat that votes for McCain is a traitorous dog and should be ostracized by true Democrats. Whether it was Hillary or Barack at this point doesn’t matter, the party should line up behind the nominee. Since Hillary lost, she and especially her supporters should shut up, stop the backstabbing, and support the Obama. If she or her supporters refuse, the party should discipline them, expulsion would be my choice.
Posted by: Cos | August 14, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
by: DEMO – You can not vote for Hilliary she lose! ha, ha, now move on all ready you nut case!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
oh gawd chris…
how do you walk by any mirror without staring at yourself? your vote isn’t about a democratic president, it is that you are right and everyone is wrong. well stay home on inauguration day and stay in your pajamas too…nobody will want to see that old face of yours either!
OBAMA ’08
Posted by: hemnebob | August 14, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
This is a bad decision. Watch the Clintons pull the rug from underneath Obama. If it happens then i will personally form the Obama-Puma.
Posted by: peoples_prez | August 14, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Why can’t you Democrats all get along?
Posted by: slim | August 14, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
I fully expect Obama to admit that he does not have truth on his side every time he refuses to debate McCain.
Yeah, as if.
What a dishonest hack Obama is turning out to be.
Posted by: Dolore4s | August 14, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Although i would rather see hillary than mccain this is insane!!
Im a new voter but common sense would tell you every year people are disappointed because the person they want to vote for doesnt make it to november!!
People say WE have issues and think we are following a messiah? she has convinced people that not being able to vote for her is them being ignored? but she just wants to bring the democrats together for obama?!! you have to give it to her who else could get people to buy this line of bull?
Posted by: melissa | August 14, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
And just as predicted, Clinton continues to press for the nomination up to, through and beyond the DNC. Ignore anything the Clintons say and have said about party unity and supporting Obama. Their agenda is self-centered, transparent, and speaks for itself. And once November comes and goes, expect Clinton to start her campaign for the 2012 ballot, just as she started her campaign for this one back in 2000.
Posted by: Publius | August 14, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Roland Martin, Keith Olbermann,and Chris Matthews must be having convulsions.
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
chris – You seem obsessed with lemmings. Something you want to tell us?
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
So, what exactly are the differeces between Clinton and Obama?
Posted by: me | August 14, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
This has been done at previous conventions but the Obama cheerleaders who know nothing about politics are ENRAGED. Get over it !! Your Bam Bam has nothing to fear because all will be well in the OBAMANATION. He will spread love and cheer and rainbows and lucky charms and rice crispies and moonbeams and sunbeams etc because he is “THE ONE.’ What a friggin joke ! Question is will his terrorist, racist and criminal friends all have fronbt row seats to see their bought and paid for Bam Bam get the nomination ?? Oops..I forgot Oprah takes up the whole front row herself …so give the others the 2nd row. Too too funny… McCain the Electoral college vote is yours…. Cindy would make a better first lady than mad Michelle anyway !!!
Posted by: jimbo | August 14, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
I have no doubt that Obama will win at the convention as expected. However, as a moderate independent who has worked in both parties, I would like to see Clinton upset Obama because that would end the current democrat party and help drain off some people from the republican party to create a large third party by 2012. Both democrats and republicans are more concerned with their parties than us Americans or the country. Both want to spend as many tax dollars as possible for their special interests and not ours. It would be nice if we had elected officials that really did work for the people.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | August 14, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
The con Obama uses standard democrat double talk:
“I fear no man when I’ve got truth on my side!”
He fears no man W H E N he has Truth on his side. That’s the angle he’ll flip to when he get’s cornered.
Poor Michele. Does he flip flop in bed? I wonder..
Posted by: Dolores4S | August 14, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
I still have HOPE for Hillary to get the
nomination. Isn’t that what Obama is running on….HOPE and CHANGE…
Otherwise my vote will go to McCain because he has the experience.
Now if Satan, Elvis, Martin Luther King Jr. (and the other one), Winston Churchill or Bugs Bunny were also running, I would really need to think about which one would deserve my vote.
There’s enough experience, charisma, personality and personal hygiene here to confuse any adult undecided voter.
God Bless America (a fate truly deserved)
Posted by: Dean | August 14, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
To all you delusional voters who think Obama won,just how do you appoint delegates and votes to a man from a state where his name is not on the ballot???It’s called voter fraud.Those delegates are not obliged to vote for him and she can easily win the roll call as she did the popular vote.Giving the FACT that everytime he opens his mouth lately he is making dan qualye look like a rhodes scholar..a little buyer remorse may be coming to the show in Denver real soon.
Posted by: Charlie | August 14, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
I believe that half of Barry’s supporters would be willing to crown him despot for life if they were able. Scary.
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Steve_NJ – right on. The book “The Obama Nation” is Swift Boat 2. Nasty invective written for the GOP faithful – facts and accuracy are optional. What independent is going to read this muck to determine Obama’s fitness as President? Kinda like digging through a landfill for a change of clean clothes.
Posted by: Center One | August 14, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Vote Hillary – “Hillary owes nothing to the DNC or Obama.” – psssst, did you forget about her campaign bills?
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Honestly, I will not label Obama a coward just because he refuses to portray himself with what he truly is.
I will say that I do not think that The Truth is part of his language.
Posted by: Stan | August 14, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
OJ
OJ
OJ
…I mean Obama, obama…..
Posted by: Justin | August 14, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Dolores4S
If you mouth off like a despicable human being, people may think you ARE one. Just some basic advice.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Jen,
Your not helping your candidate.
If Hillary is white trash what does that make you.
You have not even tried to do anything to help this country, but your one to judge. I bet you have never even spoken in public venue.
I can be that you have never had to make a real important decesion that impacted a large group of people.
You have never had to sway public opinion.
Forgive me for not taking much stalk into you stupid comment.
Posted by: texas outlaw | August 14, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
From Rhys: “It would be REALLY funny if Hillary Clinton actually GETS the nomination! Old Man McCain could pack his bags and retire in Arizona. He MIGHT be able to defeat the New Messiah, but he could NOT defeat Hillary Clinton.”
What drugs are you on?? It is truly hysterically funny that you Hillary fans (and why you are is beyond me) actual believe she could WIN. Please just make her and Bill go away — and take their arrogance and deceit with them.
Posted by: PD | August 14, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
So the DNC has come to terms with their big blunder- Obama. They see that he is not electable because they slighted the 8 million Hillary supporters. They are also having more buyer’s remorse every day. Obama is a phony, liar and totally unqualified to represent the Democratic party. If he is gets the nod at the convention, I will stay home in November. BTW, you Obama supporters sure are a mean bunch. Everyone is a racist to you if they don’t like Obama. Thanks for securing his failure. Americans are not that dumb and they see just how any criticism will be responded to if BHO becomes POTUS. That is a good enough reason to not vote for him right there. Thanks again! NoBama…ever!
Posted by: sane democrat | August 14, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
”Obama” the afro americams that were for ”Senator Obama to be next president all across america, should take to the streets in protest. Obama was fairly nominated fair and square, Hillary needs to get the Hell over it!!!
I will be the first to be marching and they really don’t what a brunch of angry black people who have notthing left to lose. Blacks are not to be play with right about now! This is not the 60ies.
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
justrighttoo:
“then how the heck can he run against terrorists, rogue nations, Russia ”
I am so tired of the terrorist boogie man! How many years has to elapse before we realize this is a paper tiger and move on to dealing with the nation’s real problems, such as how we save ourselves from the mess the village idiot and his pals have gotten us into economically.
Posted by: Cos | August 14, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
OK gl, GO GET SOME GRAMMAR LESSONS!
Posted by: Teacher | August 14, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
jock59801: I would suggest ou to talk with Obama’s long time lover Jeremiah. He can really explain to you he is a real flip flop. A flip flopper will always be a flip flopper.
Posted by: Dolores4S | August 14, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Go Hillary!!! Obama cannot win and many conservatives and independents would vote for her and not him. I hope she upsets the whole convention and makes history!
Posted by: dianeremarx | August 14, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
chris
We had an election, and decided we wanted Obama. Are you suggesting we do it over until you get the outcome YOU want?
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Ron Paul 2008 – The only candidate with a plan to save the economically ruined nation.
Posted by: PC | August 14, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
“Mack – nice use of the word ‘despot’. Did you steal that one from Sean Hannity? And do you even know what it means?”
Unlike you I don’t need someone to do my thinking for me and I definitely don’t need a Messiah to “save” me.
Vote for Barry and all of your wildest dreams will come true!
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Good grief … what’s it take to get rid of these … these … clintons.
Posted by: beaupritchard | August 14, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Ron Paul 2008 – A great way to throw away your vote!
Posted by: CP | August 14, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
My vote is for the best candidate…strength, self-assurance, strong follow-up; strong on the issues most important to me and I believe for most of this nation – Hilary Clinton.
I like Obama – not convinced he has the experience and strength. His ‘delivery’ often lacks the self-assurance that Hilary has earned.
Posted by: Kathryn Isherwood | August 14, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Maybe Obama and the Dems are realizing that, despite the aparent mood in the country that Republicans are lower than dirt, he cannot pull ahead in polls and it is already a lost cause. As he is already becoming a Carbon Copy of Kerry’s dripping arrogance and elitism. So the Dems are going into Plan B mode to prevent history from repreating itself. Which is to Nominate Hillary and then “for the sake of Party unity” she will Veep Obama in the same minute. The Dems already got away with this kind of game in NJ
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1032128669652
Would not suprise me at all.
Posted by: Elephant Rampage | August 14, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
The problem that I have with Hillary is her supporters. They are clearly sore losers and divisive. Regardless of what the rules are Hillary feels as if she can make her own rules along the way. SHE ran a crappy campaign and SHE could not or would not make the right decisions to win the nomination. SHE scoffed at all of the little states and SHE assumed that SHE was the presumptive nominee!!!! I don’t agree with Obama on making this deal, but I am guessing he is doing this for the sake of unifying the party. After this election I am switching my party affiliation to Independent because the Democrats sure know how to louse something up!!!! This is only happening because Obama is black!!!!! This would have never happened between two white candidates!!!! Racism at it highest levels!!!!!
Posted by: Flowerchild64 | August 14, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
This just shows how stupid Obama really is – he trust the Clintons?? It sounds like a way for her to steal the nomination from him – who knows what she and slick Willy have been doing behind the scenes. I hope there is a really good cat fight at the convention – could make for some really good summer TV viewing. I really don’t care who gets the nomination, John McCain will win no matter who they nominate.
Posted by: ravenhair49 | August 14, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
All of you OBAMA haters have him wrong. He is too moderate for most liberals, a moralist, extremely intelligent, pro free markets, and well researched. To align OBAMA with terrorists is just false, classless and a sign of extreme ignorance or worse. There is a saying I over E. Intellect over emotion. That explains this campaign. Obama is the intellect and McCain is a fear/war monger cold war relic using emotion to get votes. I am an independent and I must say the Republicans have lost touch of reality. I find many of the extreme right blogs speaking from egoic dysfunction. They believe they are right on all issues and everybody else is crazy or there is an international conspiracy that explains it all. Like Obama being a Muslim plant. These are the same charters that predicted Russia would take over America. Get a perspective.
Posted by: Perspective | August 14, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
I guess the obamanations got the word to fan out & try to decieve on the blogs.
Like their candidate, they’re so transparent, you can see right through them
P.U.M.A.
Posted by: Stan | August 14, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
MARK MY WORDS, OBAMA WILL PICK CLINTON,MAYBE EVEN BILL AS THE VP.. I REALLY WOULD LIKE HIM TO PICK BIDEN SO WE CAN GET HIM OUT OF DELAWARE…
Posted by: ALLAN | August 14, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
the nonsense posted by Hillary’s “people” are astoundingly lacking in reason. What part of losing don’t they get? this is like the kid in the store melting down because mom won’t get them the toy they desire. so they scream and scream and scream, then the mom is the bad person by taking the action required to stop the tantrum.
Posted by: wk | August 14, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO OPEN TRHEIR EYES? THE CLINTON CLAN IS NOT GOOD FOR AMERICA. THEY ARE SOME OF THE WORLDS BIGGEST CROOKS, AND SOME HOW, THEY CONTINUE TO WORM THEIR WAY INTO THE POLITICAL ARENA. JUST BECAUSE SHE A WOMAN, IS NOT GIVING CREDENCE TO HER ABILITY TO RUN AMERICA.
SHOW ME ONE THING, ONE ITEM OR ONE ISSUE WHERE AMERICA BENIFITED FROM HER ACTIONS. AND AS FOR HER DAUGHTER…. GOOD LUCK?
REMEMER HER POLITICAL AD ON T.V. A WHILE BACK. THE ALARM CLOCK GOES OF, BUT HILLARY IS WIDE AWAKE….WAITING FOR THE CALL? PROOF POSITIVE THAT THE DEVIL DON’T SLEEP!!
WAKE UP AMERICA
Posted by: T Silvain | August 14, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
May I remind you… [[ "Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Sen. Obama than Sen. McCain," Clinton told her cheering audience in the Las Vegas suburb of Henderson. "Remember who we were fighting for in my campaign."]] Democrats have little to nothing in common with McCain failed ideas. McCain’s policies and war mongering will bankrupt our country.
Posted by: JD | August 14, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Steve_NJ writes:
CORSI’S BOOK ON OBAMA DEBUNKED AS TRASH
Visit:http://mediamatters.org/items/200808040005 for a lengthy rebuttal if you have really read that trash heap.
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You trust mediamatters? Are you kidding me!?
Posted by: ylem | August 14, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
What I hate the most about elections is that people feel entitled to lie about candidates they do not support. Obama, Hillary, and McCain are all good people. Unfortunately, power corrupts and the two major parties are controlled by special interests. At least 75% of what is being said in this blog are outright lies and distortions of the truth. Winning is more important than honesty. These comments do not make me a proud American. Getting the best out of everyone and pulling together (like WWII) is what makes me proud!
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | August 14, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
It is the right thing to do, it was an extemely close primary. Neither candidate had the number of delegates needed. How does it look for the DNC and Obama to not allow it? It is truly the first right thing to do whether you hate her or not she deserves to be placed into nomination.
Posted by: Cathy6224 | August 14, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Melanie
Yes we heard you the first 4 times you copied the same thing without bothering to proofread it. So you don’t like Obama. We get it.
Where does all that hate come from anyway?
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
chris…northern mexico???
I guess I can add geography to the list of things you might want to brush up on.
I hope that you are not try to imply that HRC is doing this out of patriotism! She is a vain egoist who can’t stand the fact that she lost her right to sit on the throne. Her PUMAS are even worse – acting like a bunch of petulant children.
Posted by: james in texas | August 14, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
I truly do not understand all of the people claiming that Hillary wants to steal the election. To suggest she wants to steal it presumes the nomination is already owned.
When did 0 win the nomination of his party? No candidate has enough votes to win and it is possible that neither will win the first round of voting.
What happens if neither wins the first round? The ‘rats have earned and deserve all of this confusion.
Posted by: Bonzo | August 14, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Clever media spin. The Democrats found a way to ensure record viewers for the convention. Every night, more suspense, more suprise. Then who wins?
Tune in and find out!
This is Designing Democrats, Season 1.
Posted by: len | August 14, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Obama is a coward!
He would bend over and kiss Russia’s ass.
And…why has Obama been in Hawaii?
He has probably been getting the best Fake Birth Certificate that Soros’s millions could buy.
There may be some Hawaiian State Officials who are suddenly millionaires now.
Why else would he have gone to Hawaii, just as this Birth Certificate issue is reaching critical mass right before the Convention.
Posted by: Dolores4S | August 14, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Throwing away your vote is voting for the lesser of two evils. That is why we have GWB. Real change is voting with principle. Ron Paul – Revolution, A Manifesto. Read how the American Republic should work.
Posted by: PC | August 14, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Michelle Obama, her brother, and Barack’s half-sister, and Chelsea should not be speaking at the convention. They have no required competence. The same is true for Caroline Kennedy being on the committee to recommend a VP nominee; indeed, another incompetent has already resigned from that committe; and the otehr member violated Justice Department policy by not informing the department about the effort to pardon Rich.
Posted by: Richard L.A. Schaefer | August 14, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
chris – Thanks mate for the explanation, but I already know what a lemming is. I was just wondering about your cult-like obsession with them. Seems a little odd to me, but, hey, to each his or her own!
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
If the shoe were on the other foot, they would not have added obama’s name. Hillary is sore loser.
Posted by: Jay | August 14, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
This infighting among the leftist DNC is not surprising. To a liberal, being elected means getting to RULE over the people;not one of them is going to back down if there is a chance to be GOD for at least 4 years. Conservatives win elections in order to SERVE and PROTECT. Usually conservative candidates make more money in the private sector and take pay cuts to take the job. Many liberal candidates are career politicians looking for a promotion.
Posted by: Paul | August 14, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
obama doesn’t lead mccain by double digits despite mccain’s embrace of nearly all things dubya, who enjoys record low approval ratings and is easily the worst president in U.S. history…..obama couldn’t put Hillary away despite winning 11 primaries in a row and raising record amounts of money, outspending her in some states 2 to 1 which he LOST….obama talks a good game, but when it comes to it, much like his nearly identical votes on iraq to that of Senator Clinton, he can’t walk the walk….
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Dolores4s: All over the internet is Barry’s Indonesian school records listing him as Barry Soetoro and as an Indonesian citizen texasdarlin(dot)wordpress(dot)com
Posted by: Stana | August 14, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
MikeMo,
I agree. I have been making the point about winner take all instead of winner listens to all.
Instead the Party Leaders and the Media have turned our political process into a game with a blue team and a red team.
I think we need the white team (a third party) to put the whoop on them.
Posted by: texas outlaw | August 14, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Obama did NOTHING to clean up HIS CHICAGO- what makes you robots think he will do anything to clean up America ?? Because he chants for change and hope -change How What ?
Many of us are not feeling those butterflies for Bama no more and we have stopped drinking the koolaid. You go Hillary !! Take back the DNC and America !!!
Posted by: jimbo | August 14, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Dolores4s: All over the internet is Barry’s Indonesian school records listing him as Barry Soetoro and as an Indonesian citizen texasdarlin(dot)wordpress(dot)com.
Posted by: Stan | August 14, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Wow I see this article has brought out the “Hags for Hillary” faction.
Posted by: elrushmo | August 14, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
You want to know where Ron Paul is going to be in December??? Because I can tell you if you want to know. . .
Posted by: CP | August 14, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Excellent. This is the kind of thing Lincoln did in his efforts to unite warring factions in his time, and he was misunderstood and villified for such actions as well. More and more Obama looks like an heir to Lincoln’s legacy all the time.
Posted by: EricR11 | August 14, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Hm…the DNC Chairman shot dead in Arkansas yesterday…Hillary back in to the nomination after announcing the end of it several weeks ago…what a horribly chaotic party for anyone to join and to vote for…McCAIN 2008!!!
Posted by: ablanche08 | August 14, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Dolore4s where did you learn all that hate? Whoever is elected President will have to work with both Democrats and Republicans in Congress to get things done. Get used to flip flops. Your buddy McCain is the poster boy.
Posted by: CaliRules | August 14, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Obama 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Vegas | August 14, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
If Hillary accidently gets the nomination because her votes are being counted, will there be a RECOUNT? Surely Obama would not settle for this! I think this is VERY bad idea for the Democrat Party. This is only going to remind people how the Democrat Party is divided. Your party is suppose to come together during the convention, not be reminded that their candidate wasn’t good enough by the majority. BAD IDEA FOR DEMOCRATS, GREAT FOR REPUBLICANS.
Posted by: xinunus | August 14, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
“Obama did NOTHING to clean up HIS CHICAGO- what makes you robots think he will do anything to clean up America ?? ”
It’s safer in Iraq. Thanks again Barry.
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
May I remind you… [[ "Anyone who voted for me or caucused for me has so much more in common with Sen. Obama than Sen. McCain," Clinton told her cheering audience in the Las Vegas suburb of Henderson. "Remember who we were fighting for in my campaign."]] Democrats have little to nothing in common with McCain failed ideas. McCain’s policies and war mongering will bankrupt our country.
Posted by: JD | August 14, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
now obama is the reincarnation of Abraham Lincoln….
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
I so sick of Hillary. If Obama loses, I’m blaming her and Bill.
Posted by: Marilyn | August 14, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
How could anybody vote for obama…he is the most spineless, toothless, weakling we have witnessed forever on America’s political landscape. We now know michelle is proud of her country, but how could she ever be proud of her hubby?????
Posted by: Crusader | August 14, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Boy oh boy oh boy.
Just got this from an insider.
Obama is a Machiavelian politician.
That boy he good.
The only reason the Obama campaign was threatening to pull the candidate roll-call out of the convention was to wrench out a concession from Hillary and they got what they wanted.
Hillary will release her pledged delegates before the vote.
With everything we know about the campaign I can guarantee you that Hillary will get less votes than she got during the primaries. Everyone will go with the winner or at least a substantial portion.
Well, not too “bitter”. Hillary will still have her day. I will be there to cheer her on.
I will also attend Obama’s Convention Speech at the Stadium. Boy am I lucky I got a ticket. The tickets sold out in 24 hours.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | August 14, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Hillary is more pathetic than I ever imagined. If the Clinton demands end up giving her even the slightest chance of a nomination, I will turn Republican and vote for McCain (who I think is an idiot on the verge of senility). This country is in big trouble if the people allow the Clintons to dictate according to their wants and needs.
Posted by: Jacki L | August 14, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
chris: “obama doesn’t lead mccain by double digits.”
LOL
You mean: “we’re not losing as badly as we could be”?
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
IF HE WINS I HOPE THEY PULL OUT THE PRESIDENTIAL PLASTIC TO COVER UP THE ANTIQUES SO THAT THEIR SMELL AND HAIR JUICES DOESNT GET ON PRICELESS FABRICS.
Posted by: CARL | August 14, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
this country is in big trouble only if mccain or obama is the next President
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
“I will also attend Obama’s Convention Speech at the Stadium. Boy am I lucky I got a ticket. The tickets sold out in 24 hours. ”
Make sure to bring smelling salts in case you faint.
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
“Perspective”, it’s interesting that you call McCain a cold-war relic. Haven’t you been watching the news about this little issue between Russia and Georgia? Putin as an old-world KGB thug who is now the man pulling the strings of his puppet. They’ve successfully split a sovereign country in half and are in the process of overthrowing a democratically elected government. Barack wants to get the U.N. involved, but Russia is on the Security Council, so that will come to nothing. McCain is the one standing up for Georgia. He has called for this to end from day one, while Obama was calling his 600 foreign affairs advisors (including George Clooney) and President Bush was watching lipsyncing and hugging beach volleyball players in China.
What’s going on in Russia and Georgia isn’t some abstract little game, it’s life and death, with Russia the primary dealer in that death. Do you really, really want a resurgent Soviet empire, except one based on the much more successful economic model of capitalism rather than socialism? Do we really want to have Europe held hostage to Russia, who controls the flow of most of their oil and natural gas?
If nothing else convinced me that Obama is the MUCH more dangerous choice, it’s this situation. I don’t want the USSR II to rear its ugly head. I certainly don’t want a President who wants to run to the UN when a veto-holding member acts up.
Posted by: Tom | August 14, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Dear Hillary:
WHY?
Why are you such a sore loser? Can you imagine if Obama was demanding his name be on the ballot at the convention? Would you stand for it Hillary? We don’t think so.
HOW are you going to feel when your political career is OVER because you refused to help unite the Democratic Party, and caused the loss to the Republicans in November?!
YOU SUCK. We used to like and admire you–now we hate you and wouldn’t vote for you if you were the only candidate on earth.
You are PATHETIC. Leave it to the same old tired Democrats to SCREW UP the ELECTION.
p.s. We are WHITE PEOPLE, who live in FLORIDA.
Posted by: GS | August 14, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Crusader
Opinions differ.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
obama would be a weaker version of jimmy carter and mccain would be a more clueless version of gerald ford….
Posted by: chris | August 14, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
It is a good idea to have Hilary’s name placed at the convention.
Posted by: I.A.T.SMITH | August 14, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Barack Obama & hard working is an oxymoron. Obama is now on vacation AGAIN !! Oh My God !!
Half of the people voting for Obama dont work at all, at 11am they are all watching MAURY.
Im so tired of the staus quo make these low lifes work for their money but they’re all voting for Obama beucase of the free s.h.it he will give them. Generations on welfare, if you keep giving them handouts why should they work. Mac Daddy 08
Posted by: Minetrva | August 14, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
The Clintons have b*t*h-slapped the
Democrat party into line for years.
Looks like they’re going to keep right
on doing it. Obamites are shaking in
their boots and sweat is dripping from
furrowed brows…..it’s evident in
the comment threads throughout the net.
Posted by: Trajan | August 14, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
chris – “i’m not the one following obama/jim jones to the ends of the earth like his “supporters”….” – ok……not sure where that came from…..but could you explain what you’re doing with the lemmings?
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Cos, the terrorist boogieman came in and tried to blow up the World Trade Center in the 1990′s and Clinton treated it one way. Guess what? They tried again. Not to mention the marine barracks in 1983, the kobalt towers nor the U.S.S. Cole. Your village idiot went against the terrorists when Clinton didn’t have the guts to. We closed our eyes about Germany and guess what happened. It’s so funny that the Dems elect a guy with 143 days experience and was a community organizer and beat people like Richardson and Bayh. That is baffling to me. Hillary is no better than Obama (not to mention her whitewater, chinagate, travelgate problems). She has no governing experience either. I still think it’s funny that the DNC would think that the Clintons would play by the rules. Come on! Please, these people are ruthless and will stoop to all lows to get what they want. Power.
Posted by: justrighttoo | August 14, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Hm…the DNC Chairman shot dead in Arkansas yesterday…Hillary back in to the nomination after announcing the end of it several weeks ago…what a horribly chaotic party for anyone to join and to vote for…McCAIN 2008!!!
Posted by: ablanche08
And Nancy Pelosi giving the house a five week vacation to avoid a floor vote she may have lost; a floor vote on one of the most important issues of the day. What a tangled web the Dems are.
Posted by: bullyforhim | August 14, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
One thing’s for sure about these blogs….whenever it’s a Hillary/Obama headline….there is fast and furious division, more than any McCain/Obama headline. Tells me more division within this party….spells NO FRICKIN UNITY, as teflon candidate Obama promises.
HELLO PRESIDENT McCAIN OUR 44th PREZ!
Posted by: Deb | August 14, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Tom
Oh goodie! You found a new “threat” for your fear mongering. You must be so excited.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Funny, I thought the reason why they decided to do this was because Clinton lost one state to John Edwards and if his lies and love child had been exposed on the campaign trail, she would have been on the list. But there was no mention of Johnny-boy. Hmmm.
Posted by: Paula | August 14, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Kevin…what does that have to do with anything????
Posted by: HereandThere | August 14, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
If the shoe were on the other foot, they would not have added obama’s name. Hillary is sore loser.
Posted by: Jay | Aug 14, 2008 2:18:35 PM
—————————————- I love how Obama supporters presume to know how any other candidate would handle situations Obama faces. Yet you all get so angry that you call names if anyone does that to your candidate. No one can know how she would have handled it. I personally believe she would have put him in nomination because she believes in the democratic process that is just my opinion.
Posted by: Cathy6224 | August 14, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
People keeps saying that Clinton is the one keeping the Democratic Party apart, when in reality it is up to Obama. All he has to do is accept her as Vice President! Vuala, the party is unified. Obama obviously does not have the unification of the party as his number one priority.
Posted by: WomenOnGuard | August 14, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
I will be the first to be marching and they really don’t what a brunch of angry black people who have notthing left to lose. Blacks are not to be play with right about now! This is not the 60ies.
_____________________
No affirmative action in the voting booth…. even if he is the nominee. Personally I don’t care if he’s green with purple polka dots, I don’t HAVE to vote for him. He’s not ready or qualified to be president, and it’s NOT because he’s black!
Posted by: obamasbinlyin | August 14, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Melanie
Still haven’t proofread your little vitriolic diatribe?
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
“obama would be a weaker version of jimmy carter and mccain would be a more clueless version of gerald ford….”
That’s an accurate summation.
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
jock
I get it. You’d rather ignore the issue. That’s cool.
Seriously, though. What’s the alternative? Do you believe that Russia should be ignored (That’s worked so well before)? Should we leave Russia to overthrow any democratically elected government that they want, simple to get access to a sea port? Do you honestly believe that if they go unchallenged on this that other nations won’t follow?
Or do you just believe that it’s an issue for the Untied Nations?
Posted by: Tom | August 14, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
I’m surprised they didn’t put Osama Bin Laden Or Putin on the ballet.
Posted by: BT | August 14, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
DemocratNoMore2
If someone can actually prove that Obama is not an American citizen (and prove it to someone who matters, not just to each other), then maybe someone will listen to you. Until then, put up or shut up.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
YIPPEEEE!!!!! Justice will be had. They have read the blog’s, and the people have spoken, the DNC knew that the writing on the wall wasn’t great and they knew that pushing OBAMA down all democrat’s throat’s was going to cost them the election, and it still may. Hilary deserves this, and the DNC is beginning to see that OBAMA is going to be a possible loss cause in the fall. The young people in this country yes have for the first time really stepped up and taken a walk into the world of government politics. They are voting for a candidate they think will change things, the problem is CHANGE is only a word and someone with no experience in a country that is already having crisis is not the way to go. Now I hope when the role call happens that there will be a shock and Hillary will win the nomination instead. Good Luck Hillary!!!!
Posted by: smackgurl1960 | August 14, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
I LIKE OBAMA VERY MUCH, BUT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PICK HILLARY CLINTON AS YOUR VP TO HELP GET THIS COUNTRY BACK ON TRACK. I’M SURE YOU ARE VERY CAPABLE TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT AND HELP OUR COUNTRY, BUT WITH HER 36 YRS. IN POLITICS AND ALL HER EXPERIENCE & CONTACTS-PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PICK HILARY CLINTON AS YOUR VP-SHE’S THE MOST QUALIFIED RUNNING MATE YOU CAN PICK! WHICH WILL ALSO, I’M SURE, DEFINITELY HELP YOU GET ELECTED AS OUR NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. AND OF COURSE, YOU’LL BE GETTING BILL CLINTON AS WELL, WOW! WITH YOUR WIFE, WHAT A FOURSOME WHICH WILL WORK GUARANTEED……..WILL BE THE BEST, NO DOUBT! EVERYONE I’VE TALKED TO ALL YEAR, AGREES..GOOD LUCK!
Posted by: Linda Basso | August 14, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Women….Obama nor the Dems want Hillarys baggage or Bill Clinton hanging over them. Obama doesn’t have tp accept anything, let alone name her for VP. She’d be a much better Attorney General, which would put her in a great position for 2012 if she wanted.
Posted by: newvoter | August 14, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
This is awesome. It is just like the world series. They don’t let any side win until the 7th game to generate more advertising revenue. They generate more buzz for the Dems by doing this. Barry didn’t produce a birth certificate for weeks and when he did it was a fake. What a big soap opera. I wasn’t a big fan of McCain but at least the Reps are not pulling this BS. The media learned this trick with th 2000 election. Look how long that was drug out.
Posted by: Vince | August 14, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Hey Tom. Even conservative columnist David Brooks says Republicans are dupes if they think Obama isn’t a clever, experienced politician. And Brooks says that’s not such a bad thing with the likes of Putin. What’s wrong with calling for UN involvement? Fear starts wars.
Posted by: Center One | August 14, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Melanie: He was made like Paris Hilton, so remember that Obama’s friends in the media will cover for him. Remember they will be asking the questions.
Boxers or briefs? Price of milk?
Posted by: Stan | August 14, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
I wish the Clinton bashers would do a tally of all they have done for their country in service and what Obama has done for his country…..all I see is a lucky black guy (like Ferraro), who has served 143 days in the Senate and as a community organizer got some asbestos removed from a neighborhood building.
REALLY, WHAT HAS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA DONE FOR THE UNITED STATES, EXACTLY?
And don’t even compare his non service to McCain’s FAMILY HISTORY of loving and serving THIS country…..not Kenya, not Indonesia, but THIS flippin country!
GO McCAIN (or Hillary) NEVER OBAMA NEAR THE WH!
Posted by: Deb | August 14, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
DemocratNoMore2,
You are a liar.
Kenya does not accept dual citizenship.
Go check your facts Bozo.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | August 14, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
It ain’t over ’til the fat ankled woman sings.
Posted by: Rich in Texas | August 14, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Melanie,
Obama wants to be our version of Neville Chamberlain. He’s negotiate our freedom and our lives away if he thinks it will get him votes.
Posted by: Tom | August 14, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Chris-
Pathetic = Clinton(s)
Screw up the elections = if McSame wins in November
White People in Florida = Non-racists, Florida residents, who don’t support Clinton.
There’s your 2nd grade reading lesson.
Posted by: GS | August 14, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
obamasbinlyin – well said – I have a very close black friend and she believes that whites will say what they want in public because it’s politically correct, but when they enter the voting booth – well, you can figure that out.
GL – I would suggest you spend a bit more time in school and learn some proper English rather than spending your time marching.
Posted by: whatisright | August 14, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
The attitude of many in the Clinton camp is simply another way of showing their racist attitude by code. Obama does not owe them anything. They did not help Obama to win nor did Obama contribute to their disastrous campaign that is highly negative and totally disfunctional and mismanaged. Obama has got to show he has the strength to be President by standing up to the Clintons. Al Gore and Kerry totally ignored them–that is leadership. Nothing will ever satisfy the Clintons except going back to the White House and they will never be loyal to Obama. Appeasement cannot work with the Clintons. Obama should have been calling the short and telling them to jump camp if that would placate or assuage their hurt pride. Many of them, including the Clintons, will no doubt vote for McCain who they admire. Even now, McCain is working his campaign by the Clinton playbook and enjoying it. The Clintons have betrayed the democratic tradition and their avowed equality mantra. It is all about the Clintons, and racists in their camps are attacking Obama by code and by any other name, pretending Obama is the one at fault. Hypocrites.
Posted by: Dr. Sam | Aug 14, 2008 12:21:29 PM—————————– How the hell do you get racism out of what is the right thing to do. This calling clintons and everyone who questions the process or Obama racists is exactly why I won’t vote for him. I know he will be the nominee that has been pelosi’s plan all along. But I am not voting for anyone who uses the race card when things don’t go there way. It is getting old and it is bullsh*t.
Posted by: Cathy6224 | August 14, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
something smells awfully fishy here, and its not hillarys va-jay jay.
Posted by: venicesurfer | August 14, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
I think what sticks out in my mind is the fact that at one time Clinton lead by 20 – 30% and had a healthy war chest. Obama out organized her, raised more money, virtually came out of nowhere. Clinton’s campaign was poorly thought out and unprepared. She got terrible advice and paid too much for it. But at the end of the day, the one person ultimately responsible for a campaign is the candidate. When things got bad, Clinton went negative. Obama remained respectful in my opinion. So, I don’t understand the anger towards Obama from hardcore Clinton supporters; I think it’s unfounded. Clinton kept her campaign going despite the fact she couldn’t win a delegate majority, adding debt to a campaign already bleeding badly. She lied about sniper fire and the happenings in Tuzla. At the same time, our people in Iraq were at real peril. I think we all know she hawked it up big time when it came to Iraq. She didn’t even read the NIE, but she did vote for war. I can’t comprehend voting for war without reading and analyzing all the data available. I don’t think that represents judgement I find appealing, nor is running a poor campaign. I think most of the ridiculous posts from Hillary supporters voting McCain are trolls or done by a few. Do you think McCain will nominate judges who aren’t total conservatives? Do you think McCain and the GOP represent your values? There’s a real chance to get things back on track with stronger majorities in the house and senate, but we still need a Dem President to ensure success. If Hillary steals this somehow, I’d hold my nose and vote for her even though I’d feel cheated. I’m not particularly fond of Hillary, but a dem is preferential to a Rethuglican, period. If McCain is more experienced, it doesn’t show. Go to the websites and compare the policy statements. McCain is clueless. McCain = more war, that I can tell you. He’s in bed with big oil and the lobbyists just like every other Repugnantcan. I think a vote for McCain is against everyone’s best interests.
Posted by: GMan | August 14, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Center One
The United Nation is hamstrung on this issue, because Russia is a permanent member of the Security Council. Because of this, neither condemnation nor resolution against Russia will ever happen. You think that Russia would vote to allow the U.N. to sanction them? That’s lunacy.
Posted by: Tom | August 14, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
The Democrat leaders and liberal media made a HUGE mistake! Obama is a loser! Please give us Hillary back!!!
Hillary 08!!!
Posted by: D | August 14, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
One thing’s for sure about these blogs….whenever it’s a Hillary/Obama headline….there is fast and furious division, more than any McCain/Obama headline. Tells me more division within this party….spells NO FRICKIN UNITY, as teflon candidate Obama promises.
HELLO PRESIDENT McCAIN OUR 44th PREZ!
Or very, very, very much more likely, there’s a whole lot of “undecided” Republicans blogging.
Posted by: Dean | August 14, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Tom
Of course I do not think it should be ignored. I did not say so. I do not expect either candidate to “ignore” it when they get into office.
As for the UN, even McCain said you go to the UN first, to show the world that Russia is uncooperative, and then you go to the next step.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Hillary lost and she ran a poor campaign. Don’t give her any breathing room as she will suck the air right out of the room for our candidate Obama.
Posted by: eyeonyou | August 14, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
1. Clinton does’t have to have anything on Obama to convince superdelegates to switch- she just needs to have something on enough of the superdelegates, which is a lot easier to have.
2. Kerri, your poli sci lesson is flawed. Conventions no longer nominate candidates- they coronate them, and have since the Democratic Party disaster of 1972. If they were still intended to nominate, why have delegates committed through the primary process?
3. An earlier poster asked why didn’t Clinton divorce her husband and Obama divorce his church? I guess McCain did it the correct way when he did divorce his crippled wife for a beer heiress…
People, if you are just too stupid to think through your posts, then stay off the page. you’re just hurting the candidate of your choice. Leave the chat to the grownups…
Oh, and don’t take any one source seriously, especially books written by people who state that their goal is to “defeat (insert candidate name).” Use your brain, openly consider more than their race, gender, or age, and live up to the hopes the Founding Fathers had for our democracy. it takes an informed electorate to provide a strong free society, and an uninformed one to destroy it.
An independant voter and thinker…
Posted by: TJ | August 14, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
well now that obama agrees to seat all the michigan and florida delegates…doesnt that mean she could now have more pledged delegates? surpassing obama. since both needed super delegates to win the nomination. they’ll vote for either one. many dems now have voters remorse with obama. not sure if he can win.
and you never know what could possibly come out that can hurt obama between now and the convention. clintons pressed this for a reason. could they release something potentially damaging on obama?
im not an obama supporter but he’s stupid for this. he should have given the clintons one night. and one night only. and i voted for hillary.
Posted by: venicesurfer | August 14, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Come on folks,.. for you who wine this is a democracy everyone needs to be heard. Its a good thing that the Hill is put in as a norminee let the people speak. Be proud this is what’s it’s all about.
Posted by: rjr | August 14, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Do you people really think this is not a show! she says she is voting for BHO, well this is to little to late, I am sticking to my guns no HRC noBHO ,and Hello JOHN MCAINE,at least a real vet and always AMERICA FIRST…..VOTE COUNTRY NOT PARTY!!!! we can atleast trust him for 4 years!!!
Posted by: RELD1127 | August 14, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
To Funny! You liberals are a bunch of Clowns.
Posted by: Porkchop | August 14, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Melanie
Enough with the anti-Christ bull. We are debating this in reality. Where are you?
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
GMan – right on!
Posted by: GS | August 14, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
I am so sick of those American hating western european nations. Let there be a USSR II across all of Europe. We can pull out our troops and let western europe fold to the Russians rather than fight for their sovereignty. We’ll trade with whoever is alive and in charge. I dont want to defend those bastards anymore.
Posted by: Paul | August 14, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
I think Obama was born in Hawaii, so what’s the big question with the birth certificate? I’m more concerned with Obama Sr. having had four wives and 8 kids, being a raging drunk, lost his legs in an accident, still fathered a child after that, but died from an accident while driving drunk at 46. Let’s hope Barry is free of drugs and drink….as we KNOW he can’t seem to give up smoking. People need to educate themselves by reading OBAMA NATION. APPLES NEVER FALL FAR FROM TREES…..and Obama’s family is freaky deeky. He and his mom weren’t even speaking (for 2 years) before she died of ovarian cancer alone in a hospital room. Yeah, Obama is a great family man. We all know MICHELLE keeps him in line….will she get a cabinet position, as she surely runs the show.
Yuck.
Posted by: Deb | August 14, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Jock,
Yeah, I saw that McCain had done that, but that was to show, as you said, that it was ineffectual. I believe Obama stated that he expected the UN to actually do something about this.
You called it fear-mongering, though. The approaches the candidates espouse is quite different. On Obama’s side, it’s a Chamberlain-like approach of saying “please play nice.” On McCain’s, there’s more of a stick involved. Which do you trust more?
Obama’s approach to foreign policy appears to be like that touchy-feely “Use Time-Outs. Don’t spank your kids because it will bruise their ego” crap. I want someone who will spank countries that are bad, or at least who will say “Wait till your father gets home!”
Posted by: Tom | August 14, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
venicesurfer
No. Seating all of the Michigan and Florida delegates would not give Clinton more pledged delegates. Never had and never will.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
According to some documents, Obama WAS born in Hawaii. Then again, according to some documents, Chinese female gymnasts are all 16 years old or more.
JUST A JOKE! I believe that Obama is American. I just don’t like him.
Posted by: Tom | August 14, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
> > I wonder if the judges will uphold this one…..Yikes, I hope this is
> >true. Wow! Think about this. I always thought that Clinton had something
> >on Obama.
> > A birth certificate is a matter of public record. I wonder where it is.
> >
> > We know that Obama refuses to release his birth certificate, and for
> >some reason it is not on file in Hawaii, so this is very interesting.
> >Is Obama even legally eligible to be President?
> >
> > SOME TIME AGO HILLARY SAID SHE HAD SOMETHING ON OBAMA THAT WOULD CHANGE
> >THE ELECTION AND THAT’S WHY SHE ONLY SUSPENDED HER QUEST FOR THE
> >PRESIDENCY, WELL HERE IT IS.
> >
> > This came from a USNA alumnus. It’ll be interesting to see how the
> >media handles this…Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born
> >citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth,
> >which falls between December 24, 1952, to November 13, 1986. Federal
> >Law requires that the office of President requires a natural-born
> >citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents. This is
> >what exempts John McCain, though he was born in the US Panama Canal
> >Zone.
> >
> > US Law very clearly states: ‘If only one parent is a U.S. Citizen at
> >the time of one’s birth, that parent must have resided in the United
> >States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of
> >16. Fact: Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen.
> >
> > Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though
> >she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen of Hawaii being a
> >territory), his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years- prior-to
> >Barack Obama’s birth, but-after-age-16. Obama’s mother alone is simply
> >not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At
> >most, 2 years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack
> >Obama’s birth when she was 18. His mother would have needed to have
> >been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him
> >to be a natural-born citizen.
> > Barack Obama was already 3 years old at the time his mother would have
> >needed to be to allow him natural citizenship from his only U.S.
> >Citizen parent. Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen . .
> >.but that would disqualify him from holding the office!
> >
> > The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized citizens are ineligible
> >to hold the office of President. Though Barack Obama was sent back to
> >Hawaii at age 10, any other information does not matter because his
> >mother is the one who must fulfill the requirement to be a U.S. Citizen
> >for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961,
> > with 5 of those years being after age 16.
> >
> > Further, Obama may have had to remain in the USA for some time frame to
> >protect any citizenship he might have claimed, rather than living in
> >Indonesia This is a very clear cut and glaring violation of U.S.
> >Election law. I should think Gov. Schwarzenegger of California will be
> >very interested in discovering if Obama is allowed to be elected
> >President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would
> >set a precedent.
> > Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information
> >will be leaking through over the next several days.
> >
> > If this is true, it needs to spread rapidly.
Posted by: Porkchop | August 14, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Do you people really think this is not a show! she says she is voting for BHO, well this is to little to late, I am sticking to my guns no HRC noBHO ,and Hello JOHN MCAINE,at least a real vet and always AMERICA FIRST…..VOTE COUNTRY NOT PARTY!!!! we can atleast trust him for 4 years!!!
Posted by: RELD1127 | Aug 14, 2008 2:43:47 PM——————————I absolutely agree this is all a show to get all Democrats to back Obama.
Posted by: Cathy6224 | August 14, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Its really sad to see that the selfishness of one person who is only concerned about HERSELF has amounted to. Instead of working to get the Republicans out of office and get this country back on track, someone is working to get HERSELF in office and get the glory. What ever happened to the good of the people? Aren’t government official supposed to serve us and not their own personal interests? This is so sad to see. A party still divided at a time where they need to show memebers of the Democratic Party and the world unity and prove to the skeptics that the Democratic Party can fix the mess that was created over these 8 years that Bush has been in office. It shouldn’t be about gender or race, it shouldn’t be about who gets the most votes, its about who can do the best job. We are supposed to be working together. Not against one another.
Posted by: Annoyed | August 14, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Tom
I would never trust ANYONE who went for the stick FIRST. That’s how we got into this mess.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
GLEN CLOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: ablanche08 | August 14, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
If Bill Clinton, adulterer and abuser of women, gets to speak at the convention, why can’t John Edwards be so honored?
If Edwards is to be shunned because of his extramarital affair, Bill Clinton should be given the same treatment.
Why is the Democratic leadership so hypocritical? What’s good for one adulterer, should be good for the other adulterer. Heck, why stop there? Let Elizabeth Edwards speak if Hillary gets to speak
Posted by: V. Young | August 14, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
WOW WHAT A GOOD THING MORE FIGHTS BY THE DEMS
Posted by: MCCAIN | August 14, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Go Hillary!(from a (R) in NC)
Posted by: Tripper | August 14, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Obama caught on in the primaries because Americans are basically pretty superficial. Obama is a product of an advertising, media manipulation which used “change” as its matra, probably one of the greatest shows we have seen in politics. Obama is initially charismatic and pretends to be all things to everyone. The problem is that once you dig beneath the surface, he is a “typical” politician just like all of them, except that he really is inexperienced, not much of a leader and truly doesn’t have very good judgment. He is however a very good actor.
Posted by: Susan | August 14, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
This is horrible, It truly upsets me that Obama has allowed the Clintons to disrupt what is suppose to be his convention, Not only does he give these hateful people speaking roles on two seperate nights, she gets her name placed in Nomination. He should have dis what Gore did, and gave them one speaking role on the same night.
Clinton lost, not because of the media, or because Obama knew the rules of his party, but because she was arrogant and mismanaged her campaign.
Even if Obama loses in November, and she runs again in 2012. I will never vote for this vile and digusting creature that gives real women a bad name. And I know alot of african americans who feel the same. STAND UP FOR YOURSELF OBAMA, STOP ALLOWING THESE PEOPLE TO STEAL YOUR SPOTLIGHT.
Posted by: No More Republicans | August 14, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Porkchop
That story has been circulating around the right-wing noise machine for months. And yet somehow no one has ever been able to produce any legeal evidence. Hmmmmm…
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
This is a miracle! Let’s fire Obama as President of the World!
Posted by: S | August 14, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Oh for the love of Pete, are you people blind??!
Look at Obama’s crowds, and then look at how he’s doing in the polls against McCain. Do you NOT see a HUGE disparity there? Do you not realize that the reason he has throngs of fans, but scant votes is because…(wait for it)…most of his fans aren’t OLD enough to vote.
Hello?! Anyone home, DNC?!
Posted by: Baggem | August 14, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Oh for the love of Pete, are you people blind??!
Look at Obama’s crowds, and then look at how he’s doing in the polls against McCain. Do you NOT see a HUGE disparity there? Do you not realize that the reason he has throngs of fans, but scant votes is because…(wait for it)…most of his fans aren’t OLD enough to vote.
Hello?! Anyone home, DNC?!
Posted by: Baggem | August 14, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
By this mess, I take it you mean Iraq? Where we had sanctions for how many years, and obstruction by the other Hussein? Where we had no proof that his programs were destroyed?
Regardless of your opinion of the motivation, you certainly cannot be saying that we used the stick on Iraq first, before trying to get them to comply with U.N. sanctions to which they agreed.
Posted by: Tom | August 14, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Hillary’s name back in the nomination? IT’S A GOOD THING.
Posted by: ablanche08 | August 14, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Don’t be surprised if Obama “slips” on a banana peel or some strategically spilled glass of water on the steps up to the stage and severs his spine. followed by a piano falling on him from the rafters. followed by the ceiling falling in on him. followed by a lightning strike on the pile of rubble that covers him. Those Clintons are mighty thorough.
Posted by: matt | August 14, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
GO PUMA GO HRC 08 IF NOT GO MCAIN!
Posted by: RELD1127 | August 14, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
The only good thing about this will be if 90% of Hillary’s so-called delegates vote for Obama instead of Hillary. Maybe then she will shut up and go away. It’s more apparent every day that both Clintons are living in an alternate universe and will do anything – including wreck their own party – to gain the presidency. Egos like that belong in wards eating off of plastic plates and forks.
Posted by: KSD | August 14, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Baggem
The DNC can read the polls as well as anyone.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Go to
http://www.barackbook.com/
Then vote Hillary at the convention
Posted by: Vote Hillary | August 14, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Obama trying to steal Ohio with his special early voting for blakcs and college students.
Posted by: geevill | August 14, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Those nasty insults about the clintons will not get her supporters to back him. We all know he will be the nominee. We want the process done. He has not won the nomination yet as neither had enough delegates. She did not drop out she suspended her campaign. Why can’t you Obama supporters stop the name calling of clintons. Even if you hate them can’t you be civilized.
Posted by: Cathy6224 | August 14, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
What a horrid thought that JM could be president. As old and angry as he is plus his overall condition needs to be looked at. I am tired of old school people who are out of touch with the new-age running. He is out of touch with reality, lacks in understanding global issues and wants to be a bully like the moron in office now. Stay in Iraq, make waves with Russia, and just lie about his competition. Actually, all politicians get on my nerves as none of them really do anything to help the average American. If that was the case middle America would not be declining.
Posted by: Steve, San Diego | August 14, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Thanks, Porkchop for the update regarding citizenship of BO. His Kenyan dad was only here two years for a free education, and his mom was quick to leave the U.S. for Indonesia and hubby #2. That alone, turns me off, but to find out there is some legality snag, I can’t believe this wouldn’t be examined before now, and a background check wasn’t done. I’m just grateful we have until Nov. 4th to put B. Hussein under the microscope and there are about 4 books out now, dissecting Obama, since his “handlers” won’t let anyone ask the tough questions.
Someone needs to put out his real birth cert. to stop all the specultion.
Posted by: Deb | August 14, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Wow I see this article has brought out the “Hags for Hillary” faction.
Posted by: elrushmo | Aug 14, 2008 2:20:18 PM
You must be the typical Obama supporter. How’s your spanish coming along? Sexist jerk.
Posted by: bluebird | August 14, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Chris – again with the lemmings & Melanie with her over the top biblical bombast – I’ll give you two kids this – you both are passionate, if not a bit ‘off.’
You two might want to consider getting together…bring the lemmings!
As a Democrat, I would prefer to focus on McCain. Obama won – get over it PUMAS – and it is time to move on!
Will somebody buy the Clintons some one-way tickets to ELBA? Hopefully they will stay put!
Posted by: james in texas | August 14, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Well… at least if Hillary wins the nom and the election, it won’t be so bad. It’ll be nice to see that nice Lewinsky girl working again.
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Obama trying to register and get the inmate vote….can they vote behind bars? That AA demographic should work in his favor.
Posted by: Deb | August 14, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
I’m gonna keep it real. Hillary ids just a plain out and out sore loser. She is not going to be the nominee no matter what.
Her ego is just plain retarted. I have lost all respect for her and her campaign.
Good luck I believe the Clinton era is GONE this will be good enough for the DNC to leave her out of their future plans.
OBAMA for President 2008.
Posted by: Lou | August 14, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Rielle wants to speak at the DNC too. She wants to clear her name.
Posted by: ablanche08 | August 14, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Tom
Obviously we will differ on Iraq. I think it was one of the worst foreign policy blunders in history and will make us less safe. You probably don’t
I still can’t believe McCain had this to say about Georgia: “For anyone who thought that stark international aggression was a thing of the past, the last week must have come as a startling wake-up call.”
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
That’s funny, Bluebird. How about Hillary Clinton, El Presidente de Estados Unitos!!!!
Posted by: Laurie | August 14, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
I strongly suggest we democrats choose Hillary Clinton for the VP running Mate. At least we already know her backgroud. No telling what we will hear if someone else runs. Affairs, love childs, being gay while married, What next.
Posted by: Sandra Taylor | August 14, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
i have maintained all along that it is the clinton’s intention to take the nomination away on the convention floor.
Posted by: jggrimm | August 14, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Funny, all of the racist remarks come from democrats. The color of a man’s skin is never an issue, except with an Obama supporter. Ever think that maybe, just maybe, one year as a senator, and very little else in a resume just isn’t enough to lead a nation? Clinton is the clear choice for experience…Obama the clear choice as a figure head.
Don’t let the word “racism” steal the election from Hillary.
Posted by: dncman | August 14, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
“Obama caught on in the primaries because Americans are basically pretty superficial. Obama is a product of an advertising, media manipulation which used “change” as its matra, probably one of the greatest shows we have seen in politics. Obama is initially charismatic and pretends to be all things to everyone. The problem is that once you dig beneath the surface, he is a “typical” politician just like all of them, except that he really is inexperienced, not much of a leader and truly doesn’t have very good judgment. He is however a very good actor.”
A must read for all of Barry’s supporters.
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
BHO HAS NO CLUE! WENEED SOMEONE THAT CAN LEAD FROM DAY ONE WITH OUT TRAINING WHEELS!!!! GO PUMA CLINTON 08!!!! IF NOT I WILL VOTE FOR THE NEXT BEST THING FOR MY COUNTRY ,AND THATS MCAIN!! DNC SHOULD BE ASHAIMED OF THERE SELF
Posted by: RELD1127 | August 14, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Wow….
It’s amazing at how quick the Libs are to eat their own.
For years all we heard was how wonderful Hillary was. She was the best thing since sliced bread.
And now…well…the very animals that blindly followed Hillary have now turned on her and began to throw stones. And for what? An empty suit that can read a tele-prompter?
tisk, tisk….
Posted by: WorstNightmare | August 14, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
But Mack… that’s what Americans want! Something pre-packaged, flashy, and distracting. Exactly why most Americans can recognize Britney Spears and not the current president.
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
I have an idea.
Let’s all hurl insults at each other and the candidates, and this will be a great way to choose the next President of the United States of America!
Or we could talk about the future of our country, if anybody cares about that.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Looks like the process called for by Democratic Party rules is going to take place after all.
Go Hillary!!
HILL-A-REE! HILL-A-REE! HILL-A-REE!
Posted by: Carol | August 14, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
“Obama trying to register and get the inmate vote….can they vote behind bars? That AA demographic should work in his favor.”
Didn’t he fight for equal rights for gang members in Chicago? One time that he took and stand and didn’t vote Present.
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Partial lyrics of Hillary’s theme song at the convention: “You say ‘goodbye’, I say ‘hello’…”
Posted by: ablanche08 | August 14, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
KSD…yes, the DNC can probably READ the polls, but do you think a few of us might need to explain it to them?
I really thought that BY NOW, they’d have figured out that, in order to win a damned election, you have to present an electible nominee. C’mon…this ain’t rocket science, folks.
Posted by: Baggem | August 14, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
This is a good thing I hope she gets it because if its obama I not voting and I know lot of people feel the same way
if they put in obama then McCain is the winner case closed
Even if Obama loses in November, and she runs again in 2012. I will never vote for this vile and digusting creature that gives real women a bad name. And I know alot of african americans who feel the same. STAND UP FOR YOURSELF OBAMA, STOP ALLOWING THESE PEOPLE TO STEAL YOUR SPOTLIGHT
THIS IS HOW I FEAL ABOUT OBAMA a digusting creature
has no busness running
Posted by: stingray | August 14, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
leeLee FOR VP CLINTON/LeeLee 08
Posted by: RELD1127 | August 14, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
“Happy days are here again!”
Posted by: ShermansSam | August 14, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
What a shame!! Shame on the Clintons!! I have lost what little respect I had left for them. Hillary is such a sore loser! She does not care about the citizens of United States!! She only cares about what she wants and that’s to be President at all cost!! If by some chance Hillary is able to steal the nomination from Obama, I for one will not vote for her! I will not vote in this election if the choice comes down to her and McCain.
Posted by: Carla | August 14, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Clinton should be the nominee she does better than Obama does against Mccain: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/obama_leads_bush_by_twenty_but_clinton_does_better_against_mccain
Posted by: CP | August 14, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
No wonder most other countries can’t stand us. We can’t stop hating each other.
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Jock,
As you said, we will have to agree to disagree on Iraq.
As far as McCain’s statement, I have heard many liberals say that we don’t need a military because national military agression on large scale is a thing of the past. I disagreed then, and now. You don’t get peace by being weak. You get attacked by being weak.
Posted by: Tom | August 14, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
It is all a “show” to desperately get the Hillary supporters on board for Obama. Hillary will not pull any punches…she’ll play by the rules, like she did when Mark Penn told her to run against Obama as unAmerican, and they had so much they could have used against BO and she chose not to. If any of you have worked one day more than Hillary in any given governmental area, go ahead and bit–, but please…when people have worked decades in public service and all you do is sit on your a– and blog…please shut up already.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Deb | August 14, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
All join in to the tune of Willie Wonka’s Candyman:
Who can take an earthrise,
Sprinkle it with cool?
Cover you with change and a miracle or two
Obamaman, Obamaman can,
Obamaman can ’cause he promises you some change
and makes the words sound good
Who can take a rainbow,
Wrap it ‘round your eyes?
Soak your brain with speeches, you’ll believe his cattle pies
The Obamaman? Th’ Obamaman can
The Obamaman can ’cause he mixes it with promises
and makes his world sound good
The Obamaman makes
everything he states
Satisfying and delicious.
Talk about his childhood wishes.
No one can dispute his disses!
Who can take tomorrow,
Dip it in a dream?
Separate the sorrow and collect up all the cream,
Obamaman? Th’ Obamaman can, the Obamaman can
The Obamaman can ’cause he mixes it with fluff
and makes his worlds taste good
And all the words sound good
’cause the Obamaman thinks it should
Posted by: Ken Taylor | August 14, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Does Hillary’s plane have to crash before we finally get her out of politics? Enough, already. Just go away.
Posted by: Mary | August 14, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
what a selfish, self-centered twit! Who the h.e.l.l. remembers who came in second in the Super Bowl in 2004? She’s a wanna be, and a not to be, and a never will be, all rolled up into one UGLY human being. GOOD RIDANCE CLINTON!!!
Posted by: Namako OH3 | August 14, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Carla – Why the animosity towards Hillary? Seriously, I would like to know what you think she did that is so horrible for Americans?
Posted by: Laurie | August 14, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
“You don’t get peace by being weak. You get attacked by being weak.”
Tibet learned the hard way.
Posted by: Mack | August 14, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Hey you guys need to remember that there is a margin of error attached to these polls that may be between 3-5%. So what appears to be a 4.6% lead for Obama could actually be even. But – to reiterate what others have said – polls don’t say a whole lot.
Posted by: Toto | August 14, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Obama’s secured the supderdelegates and they are now ready to play political theater. Shame on them!
Dele
Clinton should do what she promised: To fight. Fight! I want Hillary to win, and if she doesn’t win president, she should do her best to be VP. I want to see it her fight because I cannot believe Dems would not pick her then.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | August 14, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Obama’s secured the supderdelegates and they are now ready to play political theater. Shame on them!
Dele
Clinton should do what she promised: To fight. Fight! I want Hillary to win, and if she doesn’t win president, she should do her best to be VP. I want to see it her fight because I cannot believe Dems would not pick her then.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | August 14, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Scott,
Hope you die right there at your computer keyboard:}. All in good fun, right? Ain’t politics grand?
Posted by: k | August 14, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Here we go again with another epsiode of the Clintons. I read an earlier post that stated the super delegates owe the Clintons for giving them a political career. My response, even if that were true, I submit that debt was paid when the Democratic party prevented Bill Clinton from being impeached. Senator Clinton simply had a poor strategy, and a poorly ran campaign. She got off message and went negative when she fell behind, that’s the same strategy John McLame is using now. I voted both times for Bill Clinton and I began the primary season with Hillary as my candidate. It was during the primary season and all the negative and personnel attacks from the Clinton Camp that I switched to Senator Obama. They are basically even with their ideas and thoughts on how to improve this country. I never bought into her time as first lady should count toward presidential experience. I am a black American and I never thought for a second that Bill or Hillary were/are racist. Let’s move beyond the skin color because we are all feeling the pains of George Bush and his corrupt administration
Posted by: DarinD | August 14, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
The DNC rules require Senator Clinton’s name be placed in nomination. This is no gift from the DNC or Senator Obama.
Yesterday Ed Rendell sent out a mass email urging Clinton Delegates to rethink their decisions.
Do we no longer care about the VOTERS in this country? When the Democrats turn to ROVE politics, stealing delegates and strong arming constitually responsible delegates into voting against their precincts wishes.
It appears so. I cant trust the democrats any longer.
First time in my life I will vote for a republican.
Posted by: Ben Franklin | August 14, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
What this means is that Hillary believes that Obama will lose to McCain and that she is already running for 2012. She’s going to make it look as if she’s doing everything she can get Obama elected, but he just wasn’t the right candidate, so that she’ll have the stage all to herself in 2012.
Posted by: Brian Levine | August 14, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Oh I can’t wait for the real dirt to come out on Obama. What a loser. Anyone that would believe in this guy is nuts. Good for Hillary…..at least she is American.
Posted by: B | August 14, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Oh I can’t wait for the real dirt to come out on Obama. What a loser. Anyone that would believe in this guy is nuts. Good for Hillary…..at least she is American.
Posted by: B | August 14, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Tom
It would be a VERY small minority of liberals he thought we didn’t need a military. I’ve never heard of such a thing. That’s a bit of a straw-man argument.
“Peace through strength” requires more than just strength. You actually have to work on the peace part too.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Annoyed.
Talk to Obama about your posting.
The selfishness of one person?
18million voted for her.
Most I am sure don’t mind her name on the ballot as it should be.
If their should not be more then one on the ballot then there would not be a slot for more then one.
All these Obama supporters whining about our political process because they don’t understand how it works.
Hillary isn’t making the pitch anyway it is her supporters. Supporters are people that make a nomination.
If you want to disagree with them fine, but don’t try to supress what they have a right and obligation to do as American voters. Vote for what you believe in even if it is a voice of decent. Why are people complaining about our political process. Can anyone point out in the constitution where we are all supposed to just fall in line with the presumptive nominee?
Posted by: texas outlaw | August 14, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Just wait till Americans start finding out about Obama’s Global Poverty Act (Senate Bill S.2433) Which basically demands the U.S. pay a $845 Billion dollar TAX to the United Nations so they can give away this money to any dictator or rouge country in the ‘name of eliminating poverty around the world’. Obama’s Bill will also make America subordinate to U.N. doctrines & mandates that will weaken & bankrupt our country.
Obama is for ‘world governance…NOT America!!!
BEWARE.
Posted by: Stan | August 14, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
All Obama (God’s gift to mankind) had to do to unite the party was pick Hillary as VP. She earned it plain and simple. Hubris kept him from doing this.His arrogance will be his downfall.
Posted by: mackie | August 14, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
DemocratNoMore2…thank you for that breakdown about role call at the conventions. Why can’t Obamaphiles follow the rules?
So glad the majority in this country is women and I really believe Obama will lose because of that (and ignorant young BO supporters who will be too drunk to find their way to the polls on Nov. 4)
HILLARY SUPPORTER NOW FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Deb | August 14, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
This sounds great to me…
If the dems nominate hillary, the repugs will be forced into nominating Ron Paul.
He would wipe the floor with her at any debates. McCain doesn’t have a chance. (he’s not even eligible anyway)
Posted by: AAAAANDRE | August 14, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
John Schneider
If people you respect like Colin Powell have said good things about Obama, maybe they know something you don’t know?
Or you could trust Rush Limbaugh instead.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
If Hillary plays games and steals the nomination, all the youth votes that the Obama camp got registered with be totally disenfrancised and turned off. I hope Hillary realizes she will never be president. She will never get the votes in any general election! I am White Female over 55!
Posted by: eyeonyou | August 14, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Does anyone really honestly think that any of the candidates TRULY care about the likes of you and me? All three of them have more money than probably most of all the posters on this board put together. They care for the upper eschelon of this country, and are pandering to you and me to ensure they win. I have utter disdain for any politcian.
Posted by: Really? | August 14, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Jock,
Peace through strength does require more than just strength. Without adequate strength, however, there can be no peace.
The world is full of examples where those with inadequate defenses were laid waste. The dodo is one from the natural world. Kuwait in 1989, Tibet… The only dividend we got from the fall of the Soviet empire was a military too small to handle multi-front conflicts and a populace that forgot that there really are big bad people out there. 9/11 reminded us of the latter. We still haven’t recovered from the former.
Posted by: Tom | August 14, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
I’m pulling for Obama to win….I was too young to really enjoy watching JFK “lose his haircut”……this time, I’ll have my DVD player all spooled up.
A President Obambi will be a walking road sign during deer season. It’s gonna be hillarious!
Posted by: Ken Taylor | August 14, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Why does puma feel they are the voice of all dems. They certainly don’t speak for me and for millions more like me.
Posted by: erin | August 14, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Most of the negative Obama comments are by right wingers (GOP) who are pretending to be Democrats for Hillary and trying to cause more hate to create division in the Democratic party. They GOP right wingers) are Satan’s little helpers. We are a sick country!
Posted by: eyeonyou | August 14, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Neither candidate had the delegates required — Obama people are unwilling to admit it. Superdelegates, according to DNC rules do not count until convention. Hillary was bullied out by Pelosi and Dean (the unity BS). It is sad, but if no Hillary then the silent Democrats for McCain will be deciding factor. Consequenctly, Republican President 4 more years.
Posted by: Mission | August 14, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
chris – “i’ll give you some credit for your karl rove tactic of completely ignoring my point and insisting upon a collateral non-issue….” – Ok, you’ve mentioned lemmings like 100 times. I’ve noticed your little obsession and asked you about it. Maybe you’re the one who’s ignoring the point?
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
I am ashamed of most of what I see here. Racism, blatant bias, and prejudice… This is the land of the free, but unfortunately some of us feel that gives us the right to speak unjustly of others. I think Thumper said it best with “If you can’t say somethin’ nice, don’t say nothin’ at all.”
Why does everyone think they know everything?
I am just hopeful that there is a greater percentage of people that will not cater to random gossip and use it as fuel for clearly radical ideas on who to vote for. I’m going to vote for Obama because he’s a figurehead of peace and bringing the U.S. into a global arena, and I agree with more of his stances than I do with McCain’s. The hope is that an administration run by Obama will prevent itself from scorning EVERYTHING that the Republican party stands for just because of our current President (who, by the way, is not stupid or evil, but just got carried on the wings of other people’s bad hypotheses). In truth, most people are neither Republican or Democrat; they are just people.
There are a couple of key issues that I disagree with McCain on, which is what sways my vote. Otherwise, I believe he’s a good guy with good ideals. Our politicians are so often viewed as either heroes or as rotten to the core. They are people, people! A president is very much a puppet, but understand that there are other Americans pulling those strings. People are behind everything, and they have feelings and they want to prosper, and no one wants to usher ill will toward other people for no reason. It’s just that sometimes those reasons can be very self-serving. That’s why we need to elect our politicians to be people that will look out for our best interests.
I’d like to know what makes people think that they can dismiss others as being stupid. Do you know every truth about the candidates? Do you even know all the truths about the candidate you stand behind? If you say you do, you are a liar. The wisest man in the world knows that he knows nothing. Please try to remember that before you go spouting such horrors out of your mouths. Have some class.
Posted by: Brit | August 14, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Funny how Obama says he is not a part of the policies of the past and he is not the typical politician. Yeah right! He surrounds himself with those from prior Dem administrations and he is banking on the Clintons reigning him into the Oval Office. Sure looks like he is running for a third term of the Clintons. I forsee a fiasco a comin! The dem convention may be fun to watch although it would be hard not lose my supper by having to watch and hear any of them speak. They all make me sick!
Posted by: KSGrl | August 14, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Scott…your comment on Hillary dying was scum bag low. You know karma has a way of justice in life. I’d take that statement back dude. Never wish ill will on someone who never did anything to you personally. Dirt bag.
Posted by: mackie | August 14, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
higher taxes, negotiating with our enemies, drilling for more oil, building nuclear power plants, socialized medicine….
Like Indiana Joe says…just another politician…while we hunger for a statesman! Will we ever see a true leader who loves the USA more than they love their special interest groups or their own pocketbook?
Posted by: Mission | August 14, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Since we’re on the subject of Tony Rezko…let us not forget that it was Senator Obama who personally recommended Mr. Rezko for the government contract on low income housing in Senator Obama’s very own 13th district. Most of those low income housing units went into foreclosure, while Mr. Rezko continued to fatten Senator Obama’s campaign coffers. The residents of these appalling slums? Predominately african american.
So I’ll ask again…just what the hell has Senator Obama done for the African American community in his OWN 13th district? Answer: not a damned thing. Unless, of course, you count helping his 20 year, slumlord friend defraud them of government funds.
Not a damned thing.
Posted by: Baggem | August 14, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
I think now that the lead has shrunk to 3 points over McCain…the smart thing to do would be to nominate Hillary.
Posted by: suesue252 | August 14, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
PLAIN SIMPLE. REJECT BARACK OBAMA FOREVER !!
Want the truth ignore what Barack Hussein Obama says and look at his voting record and associations. Actions speak louder then words and Barak’s voting record speaks volumes!
These so called flip flops are nothing but political posturing to make himself appear as a centralist. There is nothing centralist about Barack Hussein Obama; he is an extreme leftwing socialist LIBERAL! Barack and his cheerleaders in the main stream media know he can not win the Presidential election if his voting record is analyzed exposing the true Barack Hussein Obama.
Posted by: Dolores4s | August 14, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Some of these comments are funny. Especially you PUMAs. Go ahead, vote McCain, we don’t want your whiny bitter antics anywhere near the party anyway. It can’t be Hillary’s fault for spearheading an ineffectual campaign, it must be that damn Obama’s fault for being so charismatic and inspiring. How dare he do that! The people demand more of the same vanilla, boring politicians!
Clinton will not steal the nomination, there’s absolutely NO chance in hell the Superdelegates will overturn the so-called “will of the people.” It’s a done deal, stop with the hysteria!
Obama ’08!
Posted by: Dan | August 14, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
And McCain’s voting record is one of the worst against women. Why would any women vote for someone who doesn’t have their best interest at heart. You guys are strange.
Posted by: ll | August 14, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Yes, John..and we should take copies of the NY Times LA Times and the rest and making bonfires of them. Instead of a Burning Man festival, there ought to be a Burning Liberal Media fest.
Posted by: Stan | August 14, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
THIS IS A MISTAKE! FORGET PARTY UNITY! THOSE CLINTONS HAD THIS MESS PLANNED FROM THE BEGINNING WHEN SHE GAVE HER SATURDAY SPEECH AND WAS LATE GETTING THERE. WILL THIS EVER END. AS MUCH AS I WANT OBAMA TO WIN SO I CAN SEE IN MY LIFE TIME A AFRICAN AMERICAN FINALLY BE PRESIDENT HE MAKES A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL. HOW MANY TIMES HAS HE SEEN THAT THE CLINTONS TALK FROM BOTH SIDES OF THEIR MOUTH. HOW CAN YOU LET THAT FAMILY STEAL YOUR THUNDER THIS WAS TO BE YOUR MOMENT IN TIME NOW THIS IS ALL THAT GOING TO BE TALKED ABOUT. WHY CANT THOSE CLINTONS JUST SIMPLY GO AWAY!CAN SOMEBODY ANSWER THAT PLEASE
Posted by: terryswifey | August 14, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
So while he hides in Hawaii Obama gives the Clintons a chance to be heard at the Convention. And while Pelosi hides from a floor vote and suspends Congress for five weeks, the Clintons take the opportunity to weasel into the public eye one more time.
How can any thinking person support any of these high profile Dems? What are they doing (one single thing?) that is good for America?
Posted by: bullyforhim | August 14, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
And how will make Hillary’s supporters happy? Just by putting her name in the nominations. Oh boy, we are doomed as a country. We have two idiots running for Pres and one of them has to win.
Posted by: Ugh | August 14, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Do any of you nut jobs read the articles? Hillary is a Superdelegate and she plans on voting for Obama. She knows that this is a formality. This is what happens at conventions. You paranoid Obama and McCain folks need to read more carefully before you start writing your opinions.
Posted by: Lois, California | August 14, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
chris – Step away from the lemmings!
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Eyeonyou – Not sure your conspiracy theory of right wing bloggers bears much credibility. I am a Democrate, former Hillary supporter that will vote for McCain if Obrama wins the nomination.
Posted by: Laurie | August 14, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
GO OBAMA 08
GO AWAY CLINTONS!
Posted by: terryswifey | August 14, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Tired of Hillary (above)…..I’m always always comforted when I read these blogs and it confirms my belief that Obama supporters are a) black and b) ignorant rude 20-somthing guys…two demographics that WILL NOT determine our next Pres. Hillary’s poll numbers most often showed her defeating McCain and honestly, I would be fine with either she or McCain (I’d love them together, actually)….BUT, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER OBAMA. He is the most underserving candidate EVER to be thrown at us, and I’m glad we’re all moving to be more PC…but this is the WRONG black candidate! He better not get an O.J. pass (as I recall all my black friends thought O.J. was innocent). I understand their desire to have his face on the dollar (BO mentions it enough that it’ll be one of the first things he does….create some money with his face on it), but any black man as Prez. IS NOT WHAT IT’S ALL ABOUT! He is flawed, lacking, and puts world before country.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN.
Posted by: Deb | August 14, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
sorry – typo unintentional..
Posted by: Laurie | August 14, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
This comment is to those that may be disgruntled with your partys’ choice for President.
Is your party loyal to the Constitutional Principles of our country? Does your party deserve your loyalty, your allegiance or your support? I am an Independent Voter,I swear no allegiance, nor loyalty to any party. My Allegiance and my Loyalty is to the American People and to Constitution for The Republic as well as the community I live in. Where does your loyalty and allegiance belong? When I vote, if I vote, I will vote for the person that I believe will best serve the Republic and the Will of the People, not the will of large corporate interests and banks that buy legislation from unscrupulous politicians who always ask “What’s in it for me?”.
Our America is no longer a United States, but a country divided (on purpose) by two parties that have adopted Socialistic and Fascistic political philosophies. Both parties have over thrown the Constitution and ignore the best interests of the American People. They have bought off the Main Stream Media, who have in the large part lost their fairness and credibility as well as their integrity by ignoring the Constitutional views of the other candidates. How can we Americans believe or even trust our news organizations when they print and broadcast obvious political propaganda that represents only the red and blue parties? Where is their loyalty to the American people? I strongly urge voters to reexamine your partys’ intentions for us as a country and if you find that you have doubts, vote for the candidate that will best follow the principles of Individual Freedom, Justice and the Constitution.
Posted by: BLH | August 14, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Obama is finding there is a difference between representing the South Side of Chicago and representing the whole country. You might say he isn’t yet prepared to be President. Being raised in Hawaii and Indonesia isn’t the best background to be a President. It might, perhaps, qualify a person to be an advisor to a President.
So now obama has really gotten Potomac fever and he really wants to win. First he threw most of his everyday associates under the bus and now he is willing to throw any of his political positions under the bus. ……what ever it takes to win that prize. Michele is even worse !!!!
Posted by: Mission | August 14, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Hillary is as big a crybaby as most of the McCain supporters. Putting her name in nomination is a bad idea – she WANTS her minions to disrupt the convention. O well. Ultimately the general election will come down to Obama or Abe Simpson. Lol!
Posted by: Fube | August 14, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
It would be REALLY funny if Hillary Clinton actually GETS the nomination! Old Man McCain could pack his bags and retire in Arizona. He MIGHT be able to defeat the New Messiah, but he could NOT defeat Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Rhys | Aug 14, 2008 11:31:27 AM
Rhys:
You are truly an idiot. If Hillary steals the nomination from Barry, there is no way in hell she wins. All the Blacks will either stay home or vote for McCain.
Posted by: Bill | August 14, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
bullyforhim, Pelosi isn’t hiding. Washington always shuts down in August. That is their vacation time, republicans included. So don’t be fooled thinking it’s some sort of plot.
Posted by: erin | August 14, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
It needs to be Obama/Clinton! Undoing a result no matter how unjust the primary was, would keep us in this DIVIDED HOLE. Obama/Clinton would unite the Hillary and Obama halves to equal at least 80-90% of Dems. We will lose the mysogenists, racists and those obesessed with hating the Clintons/Obama, thus uplifting the party. It’s already been said they vote the same. He is black, she is a woman; that is Fireworks History for the Democratic Party; which prides itself in being inclusive and standing up for the people. That is fitting for two groups who have voiced deep discontent with the way our society has treated them. I don’t believe any Democrat would turn down such a ticket. We will practice what we preach while making incredible history. My choice all along was Clinton/Obama, but as is the tradition for women, I’ll accept a Obama/Clinton compromise. I cannot and will not support anything else because of the unjust primary. BTW, no one has ever had to have permission from the nominee, to have a roll call. Deals are the NORM.
Posted by: irma | August 14, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Baggem wrote: “Since we’re on the subject of Tony Rezko…let us not forget that it was Senator Obama who personally recommended Mr. Rezko for the government contract on low income housing in Senator Obama’s very own 13th district.”—-Oh, much like current VP Cheney gave all the government contracts for the Iraq war to Halliburton and Blackwater? Hardly an issue… there is not a politician alive that hasn’t done favors. It’s the nature of the biz.
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
This is the rule of the Convention. Obama did not want to follow the rules initially and wanted like Kenyan Politics. Lord Obama was forced to follow the rules.
McCain’08
Posted by: tom | Aug 14, 2008 11:35:00 AM
Wow, Tom. Coupla things: first off, great grammar. Secondly, what does this have to do with Kenyan politics? Seriously, what do you think Obama knows about Kenyan politics? Some of you people are so idiotic. Please, Tom, fer chrissakes, just THINK before you post next time. Ugh!
Posted by: response to tom (11:35am) | August 14, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
I have never in my life seen so many excuses made up by the liberal press to cover up for this “loser.”
What is amazing is this, they know what they are doing is covering up for hin, because they know he is a “loser” (or they would not be covering up for him).
So what kind of logic or reasoning is in the mind of liberal US press that they would want a “loser” for their president? It is incredibly stupid behavior.
The results can be disastrous and they just do not care if the country is ruined by this.
NOBAMA AND MICHELE ARE WORTHLESS
Posted by: EdwardFT | August 14, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
jmengate – I think the lemmings have Chris’ tongue….
Melanie – i’m pretty sure it’s you who has a wee ‘delusion of grandeaur..why is that?. ‘
Wow this is like some twisted political Gong Show! A few, very few, good threads going on, but mostly comedy of the absurd.
Posted by: james in texas | August 14, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
At least big corporations are getting their candidate on the ticket. Who? you ask. Obama, McCain or Clinton, the three candidtes of big business, dummy!
Posted by: steve | August 14, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
DONT BLAME HILLERY, FOR HER SUPPORTERS BEING LOYAL! BLAME THE DNC DEAN POLOCY AND CO. THEY ARE THE NIT WITS WHO BROUGHT THIS ON!!!!
Posted by: RELD1127 | August 14, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Obama actually is in pretty good shape on the electoral map, which is what counts. Sorry to say that it was Hillary Clinton’s mismanagement of her campaign that cost her in the primary, although the media did hurt her. Unfortunately, Obama is getting hit by both McCain and Clinton loyalists, which will make this election closer, and perhaps McCain could win. But’s it’s not likely. Obviously the Clinton’s hope Obama loses, or they would not be playing this game. Personal ambition beats party loyalty, even loyalty to country, in this age. But they aren’t the first or the only ones.
I predict Obama wins with 320+ electoral votes. Sorry Hillary! Good luck in 2016!
Posted by: Elliott Shannonhouse | August 14, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
It is now being reported that, after her name is placed for nomination, that Hillary may release her delegates and vote for Obama herself.
Maybe, before we judge people, we should wait to see what they ACTUALLY do, rather than vilify them for something that YOU think they might do.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
There is no need to attempt to persuade Hillary supporters from voting for McCain. It is their right.
Obama will not choose her as running mate because that would probably lose him more votes than he would gain (remember PUMA?).
Posted by: Dennis | August 14, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Kerri, you might as well vote for McCain. No way will Hill be the nominee. It just won’t happen no matter how many times you click your heels together.
Posted by: ll | August 14, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
I can live with McCain.
If I HAVE to.
Posted by: Baggem | August 14, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Kerri: The dems could not of picked a WORST pres. candidate.
I think a lot of the smarter ones know it. My family who are staunch union would rather have their arms sawed off before they would vote for a black Marxist radical with a mooslum name.
He will go down in flames!
Posted by: Soraya | August 14, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
It was all about Iraq…until the situation there got better. Then it was all about the Mortgage crisis. Then it was all about the price of gas. Now its about leadership in the Russia-Georgia crisis.
The truth is that Obama has mis-stepped on foreign policy. Not admitting that the surge has worked, equivocating on Russia’s aggression, it all works in McCain’s favor. Clinton isn’t blind to all of this. I’m sure she’d love nothing better than to see McCain leading in the polls going into the convention. I promise you that once he announces his running-mate (not Clinton), more of her supporters will defect to McCain. If you think she isn’t working all of her strategies out right now, you’re naive.
And by the way, the economy is much more about Congress than the president (and even more about global and market factors).
Posted by: Brian Levine | August 14, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Rhys
That’s where you’re wrong idiot! See, the Obama supporters would never vote for her which is why she lost in the first place! This is going to be great! She’ll end up with less delegates than she won initially which will be very embarrassing! Save your pipe dream because that’s exactly what this will be!
Posted by: dara | August 14, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
jock59801 – “Maybe, before we judge people, we should wait to see what they ACTUALLY do, rather than vilify them for something that YOU think they might do.” – What fun is that :)
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Let me get this right… Hillary thinks she deserves to be the President of the United States of America because she was endowed with all of the physiological tools needed to be a prostitute? In other words, just because she’s a woman? Isn’t that the EPITOMY or PINNACLE of sexism?? Too bad she had the last name of “Clinton,” or it might have actually worked!
Posted by: Namako OH3 | August 14, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
There’s no point in arguing motives or party rules…the fact is that both Obama and Hillary are inexperienced and lack a grip on reality (just like their kook fringe base).
Posted by: SouthernFarmer | August 14, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
grammar. and Obama has looked like the incompetent rookie he is with energy and Foreign policy blunders.
Posted by: geevill | August 14, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
OBAM the old double talk express .. can change tracks faster than a speeding bullet and tell you it wasnt a change at all. Such an IDIOT ! He hasn’t even earn the minimum of respect..just read all these posts..With only two years in the Senate he is so hated..imagine with two years more..he will be buried. Go Away !
Posted by: Soraya | August 14, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Ok Melanie, I’ll bite with your numerous cut and paste post. How is Obama an embarrassment to this country.
Posted by: erin | August 14, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Would you let B.O. drive your children’s school bus?
Posted by: Dolores4s | August 14, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Brian Levine
Speaking of idiots, explain to me why McCain made this idiotic statement regarding the war in Georgia!
“In the 21st Century, nations don’t invade other nations? What? Does he realize that we’ve invaded Iraq and Afghanistan? Of course not because he’s a joke when it comes to foreign policy
Posted by: Kim | August 14, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Obviously, the Democratic Party IS NOT BIG ENOUGH for these two with such HUGE EGOs. What a waste. I hope McCain wins.
Posted by: Pedro Twinbrook | August 14, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Obviously, the Democratic Party IS NOT BIG ENOUGH for these two with such HUGE EGOs. What a waste. I hope McCain wins.
Posted by: Pedro Twinbrook | August 14, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Obama supporters I have a question——
If you are so sure that he won (which he hasn’t yet you all seem to ignore that) or will win- WHY THEN ARE YOU SO AFRAID OF FOLOWING THE PROCESS AS IT HAS BEEN DONE FOR YEARS? Because you don’t have faith in your candidate? You all can blame everyone and everything else when he loses but the fact is, he is hiding too much from the public, he refuses to allow the press or anyone to question him and that my fellow americans is what will be his downfall. BUT… Again why are you all so afraid of the nomination process that the Democrats have been doing for years? If you believe he will win, why the anger of Clinton (rightfully so) being placed into nomination? The primary was extremely close, neither candidate HAS enough delegates to claim nomination. Clinton suspended her campaign because she was pressured to, she didn’t want to.
Posted by: Cathy6224 | August 14, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Obama is much dumber than I ever thought agreeing to this. She and Willy will disrupt this convention. Cheating is the only way a clinton knows how to take anything.
Posted by: Felix | August 14, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
You Clinton supporters are a really stupid bunch. I can’t believe you think that crazy power hungry wacko woman should still be up for nomination. Obama all the way!
Posted by: Biff | August 14, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Some of you can diss Obama all you want. But he is the winner and she is the loser. Whether he defeats McCain or not, he still has done better than Hillary. She is toast.
Posted by: Dennis | August 14, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
It amazes me how stupid Obama thinks the american people are. He thinks he can tell us anything and we will believe it. Some are just finding out he is all rhetoric and no substance. The DNC, super delegates and Pelosi don’t deserve to win for installing Obama. What a sham!
Posted by: Stan | August 14, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
This will not appease us. BO bought the SDs, the caucuses were fraudulent and delegates were awarded to caucuses dispreportionately. The media was biased, BO was given HRCs delegates, and despite all this, HRC won the popular vote. So now after hijacking the nomination they are going to put her name up as a token. What is standard protocal, HRC had to negotiate for. This does not work. McCain it is!
Posted by: margie Chassman | August 14, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Typical obama approach:
prevent any real vote that might go against him.
Remember, he won his nomination to senate seat by challenging – at the very last minute so the opponents could not to the same to him – signatures on their petitions. He had friends disqualify even slightly questionable signatures until the opponents were off the ballot by the slimmest of margins.
Here he wanted acclamation, based on his claim to have lots of delegates, to avoid a real count of delegates == which might just show that he did not have as many as he thought.
This guy will do anything to get the office – by hook or crook.
Posted by: Snotty | August 14, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
…and what does this say about Obama’s ability to LEAD his party? It appears to me that he’s just a puppet FOR his party, with Hillary still able to pull more than just a few of his strings. I sense that this is just a sign of more embarassments to come in an Obama Administration.
Congress will finally get what it has drooled over getting for a century or more, COMPLETE control over BOTH that Legislative Branch (which the Constitution endowed them with) AND the Executive Branch (which the Constitution forbid them to have).
But then again, what’s the Constitution but a piece of paper?
Posted by: Namako OH3 | August 14, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Obama is another poll chasing politician prostitute!
Posted by: Dolores4s | August 14, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
I don’t get it. All the venom. She lost, based on the numbers…so that should be it. He wasn’t my guy, but the rules are the rules. His stance are not so much different than her stance, so there is no way I could vote Republican. So instead of complaining and name calling…vote for McCain or whoever, if you don’t like who is on the democratic ticket. All this about Kenya politics and out right racist views are just silly. No one can tell you how to vote come November, but you can choose to be a decent human being.
Posted by: Richard | August 14, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Obama is a phony windbag. He has no solutions at all. If the MEDIA was doing its job McCain would be leading by 20%.
Posted by: Mission | August 14, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
I am FAR from a democrat, but I think that our country’s only hope for right now is to have an election between Hillary and McCain. I want McCain to win, but I’d take Hillary over Obama any day of the week. I truly do hope she has a trick up her sleeve and plays it during the nomination process. I truly hope she does, for our sake!
Posted by: Tracy | August 14, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Obama is running politics of fear and grab power; if Michigan and Florida counted in time Hillary would be the delegates and now he wants to be nice; you cult OBAMA NATION DON’T FOOL US.
Posted by: hillfany | August 14, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Guess what? The people who will be exuberantly happy if Hillary is not on the ticket are REPUBLICANS!
Posted by: irma | August 14, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
this is the only way for the democrat party to save face. in the next couple of weeks you will see the curtain of deceit come down and the media will start to report about obama’s friends, activities, marxist beliefs, etc, etc. once the public is aware of this guy’s history, you will see a landslide in favor of mccain. the dem leadership knows this is about to happen and can at least try to derail obama at the convention.
Posted by: virg | August 14, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Obomas talks out of both sides of his mouth.
He doesn’t have a clue about anything.
He doesn’t listen to what people are saying.
He only listens to what comes out of his own flip flop mouth.
They dont have a chance to say anything.
Even if he did listen to their words, they would in go in one ear and out the other.
keep on lovin’. He is a loser. LOSER LOSER LOSER!
Posted by: Soraya | August 14, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Snotty – “Remember, he won his nomination to senate seat by challenging – at the very last minute so the opponents could not to the same to him – signatures on their petitions.” – Not exactly how it happened, mate. The leading Republican contender was caught in a sex scandle (though not in a stall per the GOP norm) and they put a wacko up to run against him. You might want to re-read the history on this one.
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Obama has just walked right into a big old trap. Hillary may have the right to have a roll call vote but anyone with any grace would have released his/her delegates months ago. Then for Obama to allow every Clinton on the stage with two of them giving speeches, I’m wondering about his campaign management. We know Hillary’s was awful but for the Obama camp to give in to all this Clintonism at the convention looks like chaos ahead to me. As I life-long Democrat, I’m ashamed. The party is just a mess this year and the result will probably be another Republican win.
Posted by: Kristena | August 14, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Soraya you say he’s a loser. Umm really. Have you checked out the electoral map.
Posted by: ll | August 14, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
John Schneider – Who care if you white hater Clinton supporters vote for McShame becasue he is more like you anyway. It is you white nuts screaming about not having a job and losing their home and it will continue under the McSahme machine. Most minitory people know how to make it though hards times it is you white nuts that can not and have proved it the other day. Most whites can not deal with living poor so since they nolonger can go on a shopping spree they go on a shotting spree! Voting for 4 more year of Bush I see is hurt the whites the most and becasue of their racist the can not see that they are hurting themself more by voting for McShame!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Tracy, just want to let you know my post is about the party, not you okay? Just in case, don’t want a misunderstanding….
Posted by: irma | August 14, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
The momentum was going Hillary’s way. Her supporters should get their voice. She is the one who could beat McCain and these Obama supporters are nuts for thinking otherwise, frankly.
Posted by: Ellen Hilburn | August 14, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
After reading these posts, I really think people need to read or re-read the constitution. All citizens have the right to free speech in the U.S.A., this also includes the right to vote, whether at a convention or the polling stations. The supporters of Hillary Clinton “will” be heard one way or another, so whats your pleasure? You can listen to them now or in Nov.
Posted by: Jim | August 14, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
John: He will say anything and do anything to get elected then…voila…He will revert to Liberalism!
Posted by: Dolores4s | August 14, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
writehillaryin.com —- http://www.clintons4mccain.com —— PUMAPAC.ORG —— 18 MILLION VOTERS CAN’T ALL BE WRONG.
Posted by: Jeff | August 14, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Hillfany…are you illiterate or just plain stupid? I just said (above) that I want Hillary on the ticket to run against McCain, b/c she’d be a better president if, God help us, she got elected. I AM A REPUBLICAN!!! GET IT? We want Hillary over Obama for the sake of this country. I hope you can read this and understand english!
Posted by: Tracy | August 14, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
“Fixating on – and pandering to – this fickle crowd is all about messaging tailored to avoid offending rather than to inspire and galvanize.
And isn’t galvanizing the electorate to demand fundamental change the raison d’etre of the Obama campaign in the first place? Watering down that brand is the political equivalent of New Coke.
Call it Obama 0″
Posted by: Dolores4s | August 14, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
They did order HRC a whaaaaaaaambulance! LMAO!!!!!
You crazy crazy HRC supporters are nut jobs! This still won’t make them happy because there is no way they will nominate her. Why should they Obama is up in the polls and is going strong. All Hillary has been doing since she “suspended” her campain is trying to get you crazy supporters to stop being crazy. But this new move won’t work because.. psssssst…. THEY ARE NUT JOBS! And they still don’t get over this florida and Michigan thing.. When HILLARY HERSELF SAID THEY WON”T COUNT. That is of course untill she starts losing. Bunch of cry baby sore losers and we don’t need you.
Posted by: Joe | August 14, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Clinton. A family whose ethics (or rather, lack of ethics) are more revolting than any we have in this country. New York!!! Wake up!!!! Send this wench packing next election – she played you like a drum, just like she unsuccessfully tried to play the rest of the U.S., for her personal gain.
I can’t believe there are people on this blog who are moronic enough to still think she cares one iota for your welfare. She doesn’t.
And now Obama is showing how weak a leader he is, by letting her play HIM at the convention like he was some instrument in a band.
IT’S INCREDIBLE!!!
And THIS is what the Democrats have put up in 2008 as Presidential material.
Indeed! INCREDIBLE!!
Posted by: Namako OH3 | August 14, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Sorry, Hilfany! My comments above should have been directed at IRMA, not you!!! Please accept my apologies!
Posted by: Tracy | August 14, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
jimengate; the “wacko” they brought in at the last minute also happened to be the one recycled Republican, African American, perpetual Republican candidate. However, the history is correct that Obama challenged all the oponents and had most removed from the ballot before they people got to know ANY of them.
Posted by: irma | August 14, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
It is about time — These idiotic stupid super delegates need to do some homework on this empty suit before that August convention. He is not fit to be our President and he comes from the cess pool of Chicago politics. Obama has many dirty little secrets and more scandals and hop[efully they all come out before he actually becomes he NOMINEE. All his oratory and chants are masking the real man who has no experience and one who has risen on other peoples coattails and work to get where he is. “Post turtle ” sums it up perfectly. Don’t be fooled by this Pied Piper. Wake up America
Posted by: Soraya | August 14, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Are they going to write her in for co-president too?….ridiculous!
Posted by: WTF? | August 14, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Are they going to write her in for co-president too?….ridiculous!
Posted by: WTF? | August 14, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
gl – Desist. Your terrible grammar and spelling, in addition to your blatant rants of racism, are making my head hurt.
Posted by: Laurie | August 14, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
“Y’all need to respect the people choice and go away al ready!” GL, the funny part about democracy is we can and will VOTE NO to bigoted Obama supporters like you. Go Democracy!
Posted by: Jim | August 14, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Are they going to write her in for co-president too?….ridiculous!
Posted by: WTF? | August 14, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Do you think if we stop paying attention they’ll all just go away?
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Obama just got his lunch money stolen by Hillary, and he is too darn stupid to realize it. You been took, Barry!
Posted by: Billy Bob | August 14, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
This is not complicated. He made the promise to stay within the system on four different occasions and then broke the promise. He is a new type of politician however, he doesn’t even wait to get into office before breaking his word.
Posted by: Stan | August 14, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
After she had an obama delgate killed I wouldn’t be suprised if she has obama killed at the convention.
Posted by: Joe | August 14, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
This Obama is absolute poison. His arrogant, condescending demeanor is more than I can stomach. I cant believe that people are not seeing this empty suit for who he is. Lies, broken promises, racist church, radical left associates. Where is the new politics in that? Where is his sound judgment? And the coward wont even debate or participate in a townhall meeting after he said ” he would be happy to have a debate anytime, anywhere with John McCain ” People, please wake up, take a much harder look. There is already enough that he should have been out of this race months ago. This guy will throw you under the bus far faster than he did his pastor of 20 years.
Posted by: Soraya | August 14, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
It’s not the Hillary Clinton Convention, it’s the Democratic National Convention!!
Hopefully putting her name in the nomination will stop the PUMA people from yammering on and on about how she was wronged, etc..
Posted by: Jennifer | August 14, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
I have been waiting for this moment to come! Go team Obama/Clinton!
Posted by: Vickie | August 14, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
I can not wait until all the Clintons supporters get knock down again at the convention!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
What a nonesense people are taking about
no body is talking to take back nomination from Obama, even Clintons!!!
Poor MCBush supportes are out their mind.
Posted by: kevin | August 14, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Incredibly stupid.
So what is Obama’s next move if Hillary wins the vote at the convention?
Doh!
Posted by: ragnar30066 | August 14, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
And the whole DNC is a bunch of stupid idiots who need to look at the empty suit..
F’in bunch of cry babies! I can’t belileve you guys are old enough to vote! This is the dumbest crap I think I’ve ever seen! I hope hillary goes down again someone dump water on her or something. I kind of agree with PUMA only F*** crazy Hillary supporters!
Posted by: Joe | August 14, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Hussein obama will be cooked right after Denver!
Posted by: Stan | August 14, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Obama supporters need not fear Hillary Clinton. Obama used pac money to outspend and buy the super delegates. I predict McCain will win the presidency but the democratic congress will stay intact. One thing is clear on this thread, Obama has not united this country, he has only stirred up the political and racial division. He has proved substance no longer matters to many of the American citizens.
Posted by: Debbie | August 14, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
irma – However, the history is correct that Obama challenged all the oponents and had most removed from the ballot before they people got to know ANY of them.” – ooohhh, that explains how he got 70% of the vote lmao.
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Melanie: you say “screw unity”? So that’s your definition of “core American values”? Surely you must know Hillary’s closet is not empty of skeletons. Same with McCain. You just sound bitter and shrill.
Posted by: CaliRules | August 14, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
I’m curious about one thing. Hillary Clinton says her superdelegate vote is going to Obama, after she frees her delegates to also vote for Obama.
How are the Clinton supporters viewing that move?
Those thinking she may actually have a shot at winning the nomination, are you hoping she wins even after releasing her delegates – or are you suspecting the candidate you support is lying?
Posted by: Paul | August 14, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
: Laurie – Good because this is what you white people do to my heart everytime you make a fault statement about a black man you hate becasue he is black. There is no other reason to vote for McShame if you are a Dem. but pure hate toward the black race. Most people that state on here that will not vote for Obama are white people so that say it all! I am black person that is not afair to speak my mind about all you white haters. Get over yourself all ready!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
THANK GOD! Go Hillary!
Posted by: jeep395 | August 14, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
The republican red armies are scared!! They are trying to pretend they are Obama’s supporters across the internet to strike the blue soldiers.
Posted by: Vickie | August 14, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
The problem with McCain is that his brain is no longer working.
If anyone looks at MCBush campaign from 2000 you will see he is an obvious flip flopper and suffering from alzheimers.
OFFSHORE DRILLING
THEN: During the 2000 Presidential campaign, McCain favored the moratorium on offshore drilling, promising to “never lose sight of the fundamental principle that federal land management decisions affecting local communities must be made in cooperation with the Americans who call those communities home.” (Sustainable Energy Coalition, 1/18/2000)
NOW: In June 2008, McCain called for an end to these federal bans, saying, “It is time [...] to lift these restrictions and to put our own reserves to use.” (CNN, 6/17/2008)
McClueless, MCold, MC stupid, gotta love McFlipFlopper should retire.
He is going to be worse than Bush and will start more dumb wars.
Posted by: kevin | August 14, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Mission – sorry, but I happen to think the biggest threat to our national security is our public debt.
Following the Republican low-tax playbook is just pandering for votes in the near term while even heightening the risk of financial collapse just a few years down the road.
Posted by: Paul | August 14, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
All of you need to calm down and wait for the 25th. All this speculation! It’s like watching Fox News!
Posted by: Doug | August 14, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Oh stop your whining Obama supporters. It is fair and square to have her name as nominee.
Posted by: bluebird | August 14, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
If this is juat to appease the Hillary supporters Obama and the DNC must really have a low view of us. I’m getting tired of being viewed as a typical white woman or a racist.The fact is if the voters wishes had been followed it would be Hillary’s convention. Let us not forget Pelosi Kennedy and the gang carrying on about having to go with the voters wishes when they thought Obama would lead in votes but not delegates. I’m so sorry the dems are turning into a flip flopping shady group. I started my voting career as an independent became a democrat and may have to finish my career again as an independent.
Posted by: maryintampa | August 14, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Dolores4s/chris – “Barack Obama’s brand? “Nowhere man.”" – Haven’t heard that song in awhile. I forget, who wrote that. Was it Paul McCartney or John Lemming?
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
gl – First, I am not white. Second, I can see you have not taken the earlier poster’s advice relative to education. I have an idea…. I will start the sentence for you….I support (fill in your candidate’s name here) because (fill in some relatively valid reason here). Or – just desist. Do you know what that mean or you want me splain to you?
Posted by: Laurie | August 14, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
From reading the other comments, it would seem that Sen. Obama’s supporters feel that they are above the voting process. Perhaps we should just do away with the election all together and make him King for life. I hope I’m not giving away any of there future plans. With all the hate directed toward Sen. Clinton, you’d think they were hate filled Republicans.
Posted by: Ratfinkrus | August 14, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
All these nasty and negatives comments about Obama will not change the fact that he will get the nomination at the convention. So is your intention to try and persuade people to vote for McCain.
Posted by: erin | August 14, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Lynnette,
I don’t believe you were a “Dem”, if you honestly believe you were – then I doubt you understood their principals. I don’t see how you can call Obama a liar, cheat, and crook without saying the same about McCain and any other politician.
I imagine you have fallen for the deception propagated by the Republican party.
Posted by: Sam | August 14, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
The Dem. party should be running off with this election but thanks to Hillary and her Mich, Fl flip flop and now this we will be lucky if McSame isnt our next president. I like Clinton but my respect for her drops every day. All she cares about is herself and thats nothing new with the Clintons. What gets me are her supporters that acually believe that she cares about them. Sorry but that just isnt true. She is aiming on causing devision and rehashing anger at the convention just for her own agenda. I would of liked to see her as VP and maybe that may be a big surprise at the convention but I doupt it. Now I wish she would just go away.
Posted by: CW | August 14, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Who on earth would would want to endure more Clinton deviousness.They are an arrogant lot who have little regard for the American people! Their goal is simply power in order to continue their Clinton dynasty of ego, self indulgence, and plenty of immorality to further embarrass our country.
Posted by: Lee Eltringham | August 14, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
I love reading all the Hillary supporters aka Republican paid bloggers with the same bullsh*t on every news blog. Hillary Clinton deserves to be recognized for her historic run. She is getting here time in the spot light. But make no mistake Obama is the nominee and come Nov he will be our new President of the United States. All this other talk about about Hillary supporters voting McCain or even McCain winning is a joke. If by some act of god he does win Hillary Clinton and her supporters will rule the day they started with Obama supporters.
Posted by: Obama Guy | August 14, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Mission. I too travel a lot for work around the world. You need to take another look at both economic proposals. According to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, the overall effect of the McCain tax plan would be to reduce federal revenue by more than $5 trillion over 10 years. That’s a lot of revenue loss — enough to pose big problems for the government’s solvency. And where did McCain’s economic policy come from? Phil “Enron” Gramm.
Posted by: CaliRules | August 14, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Who on earth would would want to endure more Clinton deviousness.They are an arrogant lot who have little regard for the American people! Their goal is simply power in order to continue their Clinton dynasty of ego, self indulgence, and plenty of immorality to further embarrass our country.
Posted by: Lee Eltringham | August 14, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
It’s amazing how far some people will go to accommodate one woman’s vanity… Clinton lost, she lost fair and square.
If you want to analyse the loss it was simple – despite her much vaunted experience and all star campaign team she misread the field of play, assuming that a win was inevitable; she was caught unaware and and failed the most important test of leadership of her career – she couldn’t hold her campaign team together. Barack held his nerve, stuck to the plan and trusted his staff.
To Clinton democrats, I promise you that president McCain will have far less sympathy for your issues than president Obama. Quit whining and get on with electing your chosen leader – sore loosers never win.
Posted by: Anthony | August 14, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Yes jimengate, he got close to 70% because the other choice became Alan Keyes, the perpetual, Republican candidate.
Posted by: irma | August 14, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Lynette where in the world do you get your info from. You are downright scary.
Posted by: erin | August 14, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Lynette,
I can only guess that by the absurdity of your statements of what Obama will do if he is elected that you are exaggerating the consequences, but honestly with any of the candidates we had to choose from either party – who would you wish you could have put in office?
Posted by: Sam | August 14, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Everyone just calm down – jeez. Clinton is not the first candidate who lost the nomination to put her name in nomination – no one has ever over-turned the delgate winner and Clinton won’t do it this time. She wants her supporters to be heard and then she and Bill Clinton will throw their complete support behind the winner – Barack Obama. This is healthy for the Democratic Party – everyone is heard and we all unite behind the winner. Maybe Hillary will end up being the vice-president and McCain will be running for the hills – because there is no way that the old geezer could beat an Obama/Clinton ticket.
Posted by: Kate G | August 14, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
: Laurie go to hell you and your vote! Obama don’t need you vote anyway!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Good question Sam. I realize it was not directed towards me, however, if I answered it, my answer would be Colin Powell. Sadly, not running…respected his family too much to put them through the “race” – which only makes me respect him more.
Posted by: Laurie | August 14, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
when Americans look for a change in leadership — for the crumbling economy, skyrocketing gas prices, encompassing budget deficit, health care, the environment, education, and on and on – they only see MCBush economic advisor blasting a “nation of whiners,” , MCBush is totally out of mind and out of touch when is continuing failed Bush policy while ignoring that 81% of the nation says America has pretty seriously gotten off-track.
Posted by: kevin | August 14, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
No sane,Balanced person would want to be
a polatician in this shameful society
of ours.Corruption and influence for sale is the norm. Just look at the red
ink of deficiate spending by both houses
since Clinton was President. Haven’t they proved to be tratiors of americas
future? If it takes a Hillory to call them all to account, SO BE IT !!! The
other two can’t do it.
Posted by: Larry Mayes | August 14, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Kate G – Why would Obama want her as his VP – He would have to wacth his back and peas the Clintons all the time. No way to run the white house. She have strong armed him for too long and it time Obama cut ties with her after the convention.
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Is this the words of our new leader. i think not
As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride. . .’we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, . . ..
As with so many other statements I’ve heard him (and his wife) make, I never thought I’d see the day that I’d hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation. To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation–and to have this man say with pride that we are no longer that. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers intended it to be.
Posted by: jojo | August 14, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
to say that Obama is “in bed with” any person, corporation, or industry is a bit simplistic. I don’t know what you are specifically referring to, but all politician have to deal with industry leaders in trying to accomplish goals. I don’t see anything wrong with working with the ethanol industry. And before you say that all the use of corn by the ethanol industry has caused the rise in food, you are partially correct, but it is only responsible for a small percentage of that increase in prices.
I guess you would also have to say GWB was in bed with big oil and Haliburton.
Posted by: Sam | August 14, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
I am watching the Situation Room and they have reported that Hilliary and her supporters are demanded more and more. This is not the Convention for Hilliary or her supporters. She is edgeing her supporters on to upstage Obama and the media feel the same way!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
BO and his cohorts had no choice. Her delegates were going to do it anyway!!! So he isn’t giving her anything she didn’t already have.
Posted by: lovingpolitics | August 14, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Why are so many of you against Obama when he and Clinton have the same postions and both support the Democratic platform? You all need to look into your heart and see if the color of Obama’s skin is at the core of your feelings about him and not his political positions or political style. I have a hard time believing that if Hillary Clinton had lost to Joe Biden there would be these kinds of vicious comments about voting for McSame instead of backing the candidate of the party you claim you belong to. If this is not the case then there are alot of Stinking Republicans on this sight. Which is it – Stinking, Roting Republicans or racist, bigots?
Posted by: Kate G | August 14, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
After she had an obama delgate killed I wouldn’t be suprised if she has obama killed at the convention.
Posted by: Joe | Aug 14, 2008 4:17:08 PM
-=————————————–YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE PATHETIC WITH STATEMENTS LIKE THIS. Obviously you have no confidence in your candidate, or you wouldn’t be scared or angry of having the democratic process done. NEITHER CANDIDATE HAD ENOUGH DELEGATES TO WIN THE NOMINATION. HILLARY NEVER CONCEDED THAT OBAMA WON, SHE SUSPENDED HER CAMPAIGN (BIG DIFFERENCE) HE HASN’T WON ANYTHING YET (THEREFORE HE HAS NOT WON THE NOMINATION FAIR AND SQUARE) You people only see what you want because of your hatred against the Clintons. SO IN THE WORDS OF YOUR FAMOUS CANDIDATE AND THE DNC You all need to get over it. This is the way things are done when neither candidate get enough delegates. You are obviously afraid he won’t win or you wouldn’t be so damned threatened by the real process.
Posted by: Cathy6224 | August 14, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
jojo, Obama is right. But there is nothing bad about it. We have so many different religions, one is not better than the other. And we are free to practice whatever religion we want. What is wrong with that.
Posted by: erin | August 14, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
gl-The media, who gives a d*** about the media they are the ones that created this mess in the first place by not doing their jobs, they are the last people that you should use as a reference.
Posted by: Kim | August 14, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Lynnete, which is it? First you say you used to be a Dem but not anymore, but the last couple of post you say you are a devout democrat.
Posted by: Sam | August 14, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Hilary supporters, who are willing to be turncoats if she isn’t miraculously nominated, show a lot about the unity of the democratic party and the spirit of her campaign.
It all makes me ashamed to be an American when people rally behind negative campaigns, blood money thrown into commercials and partisan news stories.
All the candidates promised changed, yet it seems more of the same behavior and will probably end with the same outcome: A corrupt and money hungry republican party winning the election.
===
Why oh why are there so many Republican supporters when they have only catered to the top 5% of the population in the past two terms? So many people seem to think the party is representing them, when truly they are in the same boat as the other 95% of us Americans.
Posted by: Disgusted | August 14, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
When is the losing party actually the wining party?? When the candidates are Obama and McCain??? Either one will be a one term President. Look forward to 2013. One step back 2 steps forward
Posted by: leanrepub. | August 14, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Chris is still at it with his lemmings over on CNN.
gl – I agree with you 100% about HRC as VP – no way in hell that would work!
Lynette – you make me ashamed that I hang my hat in Texas – your racism is ugly. Vote for whomever you wish, but don’t try to hide behind BS arguments.
Posted by: james in texas | August 14, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Joe-you are an obvious idiot, why don’t you all read and understand before you make ignorant statements. Th Arkansas chair was an Hillary Clinton Super Delegate, for God Sakes use your brains and do the research before spewing venom, you hateful little creatures.
Posted by: Kim | August 14, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Go Hellary …. way to divide the Democratic party.. ALL THE WAY TO THE OVAL OFFICE WITH McCAIN!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jim C | August 14, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Women vote for Hillarious because she’s packing a vagina, Blacks vote for Obama because he has high melanin in his epidermis. Is this what America has reduced itself to? What, exactly, is so damned “historic” about an American running for President representing the Democrat Party? NOTHING!!!!
This is a HOLLYWOOD drama, and nothing more. Vote for who you think can actually LEAD this nation for the next 4 years.
Obama has shown that he is NOT a leader of any sort, much less the leader of the most powerful nation on the faceof the planet – he has bowed to the party, and accepted Hillary as an equal (if not superior) in what is supposed to be HIS nomination. He’ll just be a finger puppet for the Congress for the next 4 years, giving Congress complete control of not only the Legislative Branch, but the Executive Branch as well.
Hillarious continues to think SHE leads the Democrats, when in fact, she’s just a moronic Sophomore senator from New York, with VERY, VERY little real experience (sorry, but staring at the ceiling in the White House while good ol’ Bubba get off doesn’t really count as experience).
What an election this will be. And the Dems will be surprised when McCain takes the oath in January? Hardly!!!
Posted by: Namako OH3 | August 14, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
If this was a reverse situation and Obama was in Hillarys place the Clinton supporters would be jumping off buildings and running in front of cars. It would be like someone hit the Hillary bee hive. So they can slam us Obama supporters all they want, but if the shoe was on the other foot these Clinton people would be bouncing off walls.
Posted by: CW | August 14, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
One of Hilliary suppoters just stated at the Convention they want Hilliary to get the nomination. This doesn’t sound like united to be it sound like an accident waiting to happen. If this happen, there will be a war right at the convention. Blacks today are not to be played with. Push us if you!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
gl; just curious, what is your first language? There is nothing wrong with your English or anything, I am just curious.
Posted by: irma | August 14, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
I want a woman president. Or, at least, a woman vice-president. No more boy-boy tickets for me. I don’t trust boys.
Posted by: thecandypoem | August 14, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Stan
Yes, being consistently ahead in the polls is SUCH a downer.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Hillary won’t need to release her delegates once she becomes the official nominee! Justice will be served at last. The truth of the popular vote will prevail.
Obama isn’t being gnerous now, nor is he being a gentleman. A gentleman would have conceded his loss to Hillary and not accepted the rigged nominee selection long ago. He’s an immoral, black liberation theologist who is too dangerous to be President.
Posted by: Zeb | August 14, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Disgusted – “Why oh why are there so many Republican supporters when they have only catered to the top 5% of the population in the past two terms?” – Because they have been effective at using the politics of fear to divide the country. It’s sad, but true.
Posted by: jmengate | August 14, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Pelosi isn’t hiding. Washington always shuts down in August. That is their vacation time, republicans included. So don’t be fooled thinking it’s some sort of plot.
Posted by: eri
okay she isn’t hiding, she is doing a tour promoting her liberal book. But her vacation for the house is five weeks, August is 31 days. More importantly, she dropped the gavel when discussion started on offshore drilling. Is there any more important item on the agenda than that? Since early in Clinton’s presidency, Dems have blocked off shore drilling. Now Pelosi and Obama want to tap the strategic reserves. If the Dems had allowed the drilling years ago, we would not be talking about a potentially disastrous tapping of reserves. Pelosi is a phony leader, perfect for Hillary “shot at in Bosnia” and Obama “buddy of Rezko and Wright” to associate with.
Posted by: bullyforhim | August 14, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Kate G – I believe that there is a none-too-thinly veiled racism at work here. People are scared shitless that somebody besides a good ol’ white boy might become president.
Posted by: james in texas | August 14, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Zeb
Obama won in virtually any way you add it up. So you think he should concede? Sorry, you only get one vote.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
I cannot beleive Obama is going to let this snake Bill Clinton speak at his convention. You know he will stab him in the back in order to get that shrill woman into the white house so Bill can have his way with women again. Scary how wicked the Clinton’s are…
Posted by: Robert Young | August 14, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
early in the primary, I was supporting Hillary, by mid primary, I switched to Obama.
If hillary was to be the pres.nominee, I would support her, just like I am suporting Obama.
I am a proud DEMOCRAT,and I will always vote my party. To all Obama haters, can you also say honestly,that…YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT.
Think about it.
jean pierre
Posted by: jean | August 14, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Letting Hillary be nominated just adds another nail in Obama’s coffin: if he can’t handly this cry-baby woman who insists on special treatment at all times…how is he going to do against Putin?
No one should doubt that Hillary will do everything in her power to undermine Obama because she need his defeat more than the Republicans. If he wins, she can kiss all political hopes good-bye.
If Obama wants to do something classy and finally put a stake into the monstrous ambitions of Hillary-witch, he should pick Pelossi for his VP!
Posted by: riviera | August 14, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
It is one thing to tout your slogan, “Change you can believe in.” But what happens when you change so much that no one knows for sure what the hell you believe in? For Christ’s sake Barack, read your own damn policy paper! You ran on the theme that we cannot win a militay victory in Iraq and promised to have all U.S. forces out of Iraq by December 2009. That’s not my interpretation, it is the policy you signed off on.
OBAMA IS A FAKE !!
Posted by: Dolores4s | August 14, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
There is no reason to open up additional offshore drilling, that would not help unless we were able to be at least 70% self sufficient – I doubt that would be possible.
Pretty much if we start drilling in more places and producing more oil, the Arabs will simply cut back their production to maintain the necessary supply to keep demand at the same level and thereby oil prices would not really change much.
Posted by: Sam | August 14, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
No wonder she is not being considered seriously for the #2 spot. She is still hoping for somethign to let her win.
Posted by: scott jeffries | August 14, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
No truer words were ever spoken. Obama is like the weather here in New England. If you don’t like what you’re seeing, just wait 10 minutes and it will be different.
CNN doesn’t discuss the ambiguity and dishonesty of this Obama’s ineptitud and ignorance so this probably won’t be posted. Can’t spell censorship without CNN huh?
Posted by: Mission | August 14, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
How did it ever get to the point where they are “allowing” Hillary to be voted on anyway? It is in the rules. Every candidate who received delegates is automatically in the first vote. Dean’s name was on the ballot in 2004 even though he only had a piddly 161 delegates. These are the same rules that have been in place for years and years; why now did they try to change them and disallow Hillary from having her delegates cast their vote for her? And why are they trying to censure her delegates who do not support Obama. Is this the democratic party or has it been totally taken over by radicals?
Posted by: Deborah from Oklahoma | August 14, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
I have to say; I couldn’t possibly be the only Dem who recognizes a lot of Republicans posing as either an Obama or Clinton supporter attacking the other. There are key phrases and words that are typical Republican rhetoric we have come to reognize. They are very intent on division. Obama/Clinton ’08!!!!!!!
Posted by: irma | August 14, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
AND NANCY PELOSI CALLING PRESIDENT BUSH A TOTAL FAILURE IS LIKE THE PROVERBIAL KETTLE CALLING THE POT BLACK..
SHE IS AS BIG IF NOT MORE OF A FAILURE AS BUSH. WHAT IS SHE TALKING ABOUT?
Posted by: Lynette from TX | August 14, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Mission
Why don’t we let the voters decide? Is that OK with you?
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Melanie
A quick search shows that is the 15th time you copied the same post on this board, and it still doesn’t make any sense. Can you at least proof-read your diatribe, please?
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Let me make this perfectly clear..osama is not a flip-flopper, he just experiences different changes of enlightenment.
Posted by: Mission | August 14, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
I love how you Hillary supporters think her taking the nomination from Obama is a good thing, or that if that goes down all of the sudden we would have a united party.
African Americans would freaking lose there minds if she was able to walk out of Denver as the nominee. And I know alot of you so called Clinton supporters dont take them serious, but she cant win without there vote.
And what about the young voters who turned out in overwhelming numbers and supported Obama. Do they not count.
Its amazing that some people think there voice is the only one that needs to be heard, its amazing that you are so willing to overlook her many faults during this process, and jump on the blame everyone but Hillary bandwagon.
And youre delusional in thinking that african american voters will forget how the Clintons went out of there way to tear down The 1st sucessful black candiate to make a serious run at the White house if she does decide to run again in 2012.
I hate that Obama is caving in to this pressure, but i understand his reasons. Give the Clintons the much needed spotlight they crave so much, and then once thats done.He’ll be done with them and can move on and prepare for the fight in November.
Sometimes I wish he would have waited to run, and that she would have won, that way he could show her how to bow out in a gracious way. His supporters could show you idiots how to come together in a proper way and unite our party. I doubt we would be acting all me,me,me,mine mine mine, like so many of you whining babies.
Posted by: No More Republicans | August 14, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
I cannot stop laughing at the Dem party proffering what must be their weakest candidate since Dukakis! Someone can write a sitcom about the new black Jimmy Carter. I am a black man btw.
Posted by: Stan | August 14, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
This is too funny. So, now they ‘agree’ to put her name up for nomination. If Obama was so inclusive, this wouldn’t be news. Despite ‘official statements’ this continues to show the divisive state of affairs amongst Dems.
Of course, Obama will get the nom. The unofficial stand from the DNC is “We’ll put HRC’s name up for vote, but you guys better NOT vote for her.” The threats have already begun within the ranks of delegates.
Posted by: FishMonger | August 14, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
As a democrat I find it disturbing the way our process gets manipulated from party insiders.
For the Hillary people I would be miffed to say the least how the media pushed obam all the way.And the Obama supporters should be aware that Obama has manipulated them, he has turned on every issue . He is not change, he is more of the same. I am leaving the democratic party. I do not like at all the way our people(especially Pelosi and Reid have refused to get something done with energy. this has been a mess for 30 years. The truth of the matter is the goverment is making more on oil then the oil companies.Lease fees are 25% off the top then 15% at the pump. they dont want cheap oilAnd Obama is for the same principal
Posted by: scott | August 14, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
am a lifelong democrat- and I have never seen a bigger flip flopper than Obama.
The man’s position is whatever polls well at the time.
Obama has changed his position on everything just since the primary: campaign finance reform, NAFTA, FISA, foreign relations, the timetable for withdrawal from Iraq.
McCain changes his position also- but in response to changing circumstances.
For the first time in 35 years of voting in every election, I am not able to support the nominee of my party. He won not on his merits but by cheating, playing dirty politics, manipulation of public opinion, creating perception of strength, trashing his opponent and playing the race card.
Posted by: Soraya | August 14, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
If you do not like Obama’s position- just wait 5 minutes, he will refine it to conform to whatever polls best.
Lying hypocritical pandering dirty politician.
Posted by: Stan | August 14, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Man, the Republicans with their usual dirty tricks, are taking all the fun out of the blogs. All they do is call names, give false representations and are obviously and desperately trying to keep an Obama/Clinton thing from happening because they would be majorly screwed if the party truly came together. Dems need to stop insulting each other as well, accept and support each other. Obama/Clinton ’08 or sadness all across for DEMS. BTW ClintonsforMcCain is another example of Republican Bull. No Democrat would call McCain “The Right Man.” He’s simply not Obama to those who are sincerely pissed at the primary injustice.
Posted by: irma | August 14, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
IT IS BUT JUST RIGHT THAT THEY PLACE HER NAME IN NOMINATION BECAUSE NOBAMA WAS’NT ELECTED? HE WAS SELECTED. HOW COULD THE DNC SELECT OUR NOMINEE WHO IS EVEN INEXPERIENCED, MY GOD 1 YR IN THE SENATE AND HE THINKS THATS ENOUGH TO QUALIFY HIM TO BE POTUS? JUST BECAUSE HE OPPOSED THE WAR (EVEN WHEN HE DID OPPOSED THAT HE WASNT IN THE SENATE YET), HE THINK HE CAN BE POTUS? EXCUUUUUSSSSSE ME?? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TOUGHEST JOB IN THE WORLD!!! HILLARY IS THE MOST QUALIFIED!!! BESIDES THEY SHOULD PLACE HER NAME IN NOMINATION… AS PER HISTORICAL RECORDS.. HERES WHAT WE HAVE…
1980:
Jimmy Carter – 1981 delegates
Ted Kennedy – 1225 delegates
Uncommitted – 122
No way Kennedy could win, but his name was placed in nomination.
2004:
John Kerry: 2192.5 Pledged delegates
Howard Dean: 114.5 Pledged delegates
Dean had already dropped out with no chance of winning, but his name
was placed in nomination.
2008:
Barack Obama: 1766.5 Pledged delegates
Hillary Clinton: 1639.5 Pledged delegates
The contender is being told to shut up for the sake of the party.
In addition, Teddy Kennedy has had his name on that first ballot in
1968 (12 votes), 1972 (12 votes), 1976 (1 vote), 1980 (1150 – he lost
some supporters along the way).
Jesse Jackson has had his name on that first ballot twice: 1984 (465
votes), 1988 (1218 votes).
Why then should Hillary’s name not be placed in nomination?? Why is Dean and Pelosi so determined to keep Clinton off that ballot?
Maria in NJ
Posted by: Maria in NJ | August 14, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Unfortunately, the “new” Democratic Party still doesn’t get it. Clinton’s supporters are neither “bitterly disppointed” nor do they have “hurt feelings” that must be mollified.
It was the party’s decision to step away from its hithertofore deeply held principles with respect to nondiscrimination, the disenfranchisement of voters, environmental protection and campaign finance reform, among other things, that has caused a rift in the party.
It should be obvious, then, that people who held these principles dear, who believed in them, sacrificed for them and fought for them, have no desire to “unify” with a party that not only doesn’t share their views but actually made deliberate and strategic decisions to abandon them, making it appear that their sincerity and commitment failed to extend beyond their own self-interest.
Some people, amazingly enough, still think those principles are important, and these voters are committed to Clinton because she – unlike Barack Obama, David Axelrod, Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi – is perceived to not have abandoned them.
As long as the Party and its representatives continue to espouse one thing but do another (and yes, we’re actually smart enough to perceive it!) and as long as the Party and its representatives refuse to recognize this (albeit unattractive) truth and choose instead to cling to and perpetuate this inaccurate, ill- informed, stereotypical and one-dimensional view as to why loyal Democrats have chosen to leave the party and refuse to “unify” with it, no progress is likely to be made.
But certainly WORDS alone will never be sufficient again.
Posted by: GM | August 14, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
My vote is committed to John McCain even if Hillary is chosen as little boy Nobama’s vp.
The DNC leadership under Howard Dean, Kennedy, Palosi, Oprah, and Brazzil, bunch of losers, have damaged the democratic party with their rigging of the elections. I was born a democrat and will vote republican for the first time in my life.
If Hillary is selected to be the president at the convention, I’ll vote for Hillary. I Love You Hillary! Hillary won all the major states and the popular vote with out the african american vote. They stuck a knife in Clinton’s back. And still President Clinton continues to do work for all black people. Shame on you black people. NO to Obama. You don’t deserve to be president and you are not qualified to be president. Go away.
Posted by: Mrs. Phoenix | August 14, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Hillary Clinton was the one who tried to put us on the road to universal health care years ago, only to be shunted by narrow-minded bureaucrats who put corporate interests above the wellbeing of our people. we are a nation of people who don’t go to the doctor until it’s too late, because we cannot afford it anymore. this is not a bloody soccer game. i don’t care if she’s got a puffed up attitude. we need people in office who will help to enact policies that benefit us as a people. Hillary has the right ideas where it counts.
Posted by: angelfish | August 14, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Maria in NJ
Um, the title of this story is that her name WILL be placed in nomination. So what was your question again?
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
way to keep them in line jock59801!
Posted by: james in texas | August 14, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Obama gets to show off his theatrics and professional speaking voice by accepting the nomination in a Denver football stadium.
Of course all of the networks have been spending big bucks to cover the convention in Denver, so the public could view and be a part of the action, but now they might be required to scale back for the first three nights of the convention and just focus on the 4th final night the acceptance of OBAMA.
Nothing else is important but OBAMA. We do not need to see the speeches, watch the convention, and feel the spirit of democracy in action. The Obama campaign feels that they can fill at least half of the Denver football stadium with Colorado residents all chanting OBAMA and this will make the big difference and everyone will see the great OBAMA.
This reminds me of another time in history, another place, where people were blinded and just followed the great leader that turned out not to be so great.
NOBAMA
Posted by: Edward | August 14, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Mrs. Phoenix
Black people actually get to vote for who they want like everybody else, without you saying “shame on you”. If you don’t like the outcome of elections, what do you want us to do about it? Give you your way anyway?
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
GM: Exactly. The democratic stood for high principles, justice for all, count all the votes. No one in the democratic party stood up to defend Hillary against the Obama and goon attacks against her character, service to country. Instead Obama goons called her dirty names and used racist remarks against her and President Clinton.
At the end, the DNC awarded Hillary’s delegates to Obama as if this was a third world country.
All I know is that the new Obama democratic party must have been created by Obama’s cousin Odinga, a murdering thug in Kynia.
NO OBAMA for this life-long Democrat.
Posted by: Mrs. Phoenix | August 14, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
The LEFT has no candidate in this election.
Obama is the same as McCain.
He’s going to keep us in wars in the middle east for his entire term in office, should he be elected. However, Obama is a hypocrit about it.
Let’s say it straight out. The Left is the party of PEACE. We don’t want more Americans killed in a land war for oil. We want out of Iraq and Afganistan. We don’t want into Iran and Pakistan.
Frankly, Obama is identical to McCain on these issues. He’s going to keep us embroiled in wars and having American troops (people) die for oil.
It’s horrible and a disgrace.
Go foR Hillary Clinton..Let’s keep appealing to the Superdelegates !
Posted by: Abe2000 | August 14, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Is there anyone who still believes Obama’s fairy tale of a premise to his original campaign, that he would have voted against the authorization to use force in Iraq?
Anyone who bought that is a chump and owes a big apology to President Clinton.
Posted by: Stan | August 14, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
OK, all of you who say the nomination should of gone to Hillary:
Prove it. Right here. Right now. Or STFU.
Hint: the popular vote, which she really didn’t win anyway, was meaningless according to the rules that SHE agreed upon.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Obama Supporters: Anyone who speaks English knows that Obama has not been consistent.
Give me a break.
Posted by: Dolores4s | August 14, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
I love watching the Obamacons squirm and finally realize that Backtrack Obama will not win the election! It’s GREAT! I hope that Hillary comes away with the nomination and defeats McCain…if Hillary is not the nominee, then this Democrat will vote for McCain.
———–Response. Dont you get it? If Hillary were to win the nomination she would win the GE or the GE in 2012. Obama supporters would see her as the reason the Dem lost this election and she would go down in History as the canidate that lost the GE for the Dem’s.
Yes I know there are a bunch of looser republicans ons this blog trying to stir the pot and re hash hard feelings. Comes from listening to your God Rush Pillhead.
Posted by: CW | August 14, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Melanie
Yell loser all you want. And yet he keeps winning. But keep HOPING!
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
I was and still am a Hillary supporter. But Obama will be the nominee. This is nothing more than honoring Hillary and respecting the 18+ million who supported and voted for her.She also deserves respect for her accomplishment.Some of her supporters are still angry and won’t vote for Obama. I believe she is trying to help Obama. Stop looking for something that isn’t there.People are so sinister and hell-bent on trying to create controversy. Is it really that hard to believe Obama and Hillary are unified? Not for me. The media is looking for a story and whipping everyone into a frenzy. Give it a rest. It’s getting old.
Posted by: Bea | August 14, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
jock59801 and Tired of Hil-LIAR-y: Hussein DID NOT beat Hillary in the primaries, he was SELECTED by the super-delegates. But it doesn’t matter, Hillary’s name belongs in the nomination- the race was too close and besides, it’s in the rules. What truth are you afraid of?
Posted by: Zeb | August 14, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
This is Freakin hilarious! Clinton will do ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING to get elected. This is SOOO obvious! All she has to do is claim that she’s going along, trying to help ‘heal’ the party by casually agreeing to let her name be nominated.
She HAS to know the states will be called in alphabetical order, with the early states going in her favor. She HAS to know that this will in turn help save face for those delegates who may now want to change their mind. She also HAS to know that there are a lot of Edwards delegates who will now want to vote for her rather than look foolish. She HAS to know there are a lot of superdelegates who are nervously wondering why Obama isn’t further ahead in the polls against a mediocre candidate like McCain. And she definitely knows that Delegates can change their vote at any time.
There are a lot fewer candidates now. The vote can be so much different now that there’s only 2 left to choose from and a lot of nervous delegates.
She is going to make a play for the nomination and then claim innocence. She’ll simply say, “Well, if that’s what the party wants, if it’s for the good of the party, then I humbly accept. But in reality she KNOWS it’s coming.
Obama is TOO NAIVE TO SEE THIS COMING!!! If he has this kind of lack of judgement now, what kind of judgement will he have as commander in chief???
Posted by: JustCuzIDisagreeDoesn'tMakeMeRacist | August 14, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
nice job kerri keep up the good work!
Posted by: RELD1127 | August 14, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Hey Democrats, here’s an idea. Drop both Obambi and Shrillary. YOU guys take McCain, and we Republicans will start over and find a real conservative to run on our ticket!
Posted by: p3orion | August 14, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Zeb
I have no problem with a roll call vote. I have always said I was for it. And there is nothing to be “afraid” of, because Obama won fair and square according to the rules that everyone had agreed upon. Anyone telling you different is LYING.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
For those of you who claim to be republicans, and are voting for obama…
Don’t claim to be republican because obama is probably as far left on the issues as can go. He is only starting to lean center to sway the conservative vote away from McCain.
IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN… VOTE THAT WAY!
Posted by: TRUE CONSERVATIVE | August 14, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
I see there are many who think they know politics. Do a little research. Look at past conventions and see how it’s done. This isn’t the first time a nominee has gone to the convention and not won unanimously. That being said. Obama will still win the nomination. I think it was predetermined. I have already digested my bitter pill and will be supporting Obama.
Posted by: Miki | August 14, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
DemocratNoMore2
Ann Coulter?????
Why don’t you just admit that you were never a Democrat. It’s Ok. You can come out of the closet. We’ll be nice.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Everybody needs to lighten up. Hillary cannot steal the nomination at this point. She’s still panhandling to try to retire her debt.
I am an Obama supporter, but I don’t dislike Hillary. I would have been fine with her as the nominee. I think the so-called “split” in the party is just among all of us political junkies.
I feel pretty good about 284 electoral votes for Obama, which is enough to win. A lot can happen, but I don’t think Hillary can do anything to derail Barack.
Also, as an Obama supporter, I’m completely in favor of Hillary’s name being put into nomination. A lot of people worked very hard for her, and they all deserve to have their say.
Posted by: steve | August 14, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
This will indeed show how “historically” mentally ill the creepy Clintons are. The racist, women abusing, creepy Clintons had better soak up all they can, because they are now through. No democratic party official will ever support them again. Probably a good thing.
Posted by: disambiguates | August 14, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Democratnomore….Ann Coulter ? You just gave yourself away. If you read and quote Ann (gag) Coulter, you were never a democrat to begin with.
Posted by: Harry | August 14, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
I think these “PUMA” people are just upset that they won’t have anything to protest anymore.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 14, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
what a joke…clintons are out to destroy democratic party now for their own selfish reasons. These whiners want Bush/Clinton dynasty because they are pure evil and sold out long ago. Remember when Clinton swept all the transgressions and crimes of Bush I under the carpet in the interest of national unity??? What did it get us? It got those same criminals a chance to come back 8 years later despite Iran Contra. Negroponte, Elliot Abrams, Poindexter, etc etc. Clinton and Bush families have been criminal partners since the early 80′s and WE LET THEM. WAKE UP!!!!!!
Posted by: mo glenn | August 14, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
It would be a big mistake not to put Clinton on the ballot. It is… after all… a democracy. Let’s suppose that Clinton gets 25% of the convention vote. That would mean that around 50% of her support was hard core and just wouldn’t follow her lead in voting for Obama. Out of that group, with human nature being what it is…if 60% of them ultimately vote for Obama (after being able to officially register their dissent) in the general election, that leaves about 10% who haven’t voted for Obama… and most likely wouldn’t be voting for McCain because his policies are so counter to Democrat and Clinton policies. Much better to increase the likelihood of a significant part of the hard core group voting Democrat in the fall. It’s a big old complex situation… and Obama… once again… is coolly making a good choice. He’s definitely the right politician for our times because in addition to being an idealist and a strong believer in the fairness principle, he is a fighter and a very effective pragmatist.
Posted by: jake1492 | August 14, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Clinton’s racist? Woman abusing? What are you 12? Well actually I know 12 year olds that show more maturity.You know nothing about the Clintons. Go drink your milk and cookies and get ready for bed.
Posted by: Miki | August 14, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Obama supporters please post your comments in Spanish.
Posted by: bluebird | August 14, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Folks, quit using the REALLY STUPID line: “Nobody cares who you’re voting for.” Of course we all do! That’s why we’re here taking shots at each other. I’m all for lively discussion, but come on, try to be original or at least intelligent.
Posted by: Zeb | August 14, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
These posts are both truly hilarious and pathetic at the same time. Obama’s camp is accused of fear mongering when in reality that’s what both McCain’s and Clinton’s campaigns were based on.
And for those defiant, (and in denial) Clinton supporters who insist they’ll vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee, then please don’t you dare complain when he appoints more conservative Justices to the Supreme court, and you end up getting your abortions in back alleys when they become illegal.
Obama wasn’t pushed on anyone by the media. He inspired a grass-roots effort that caught the media’s attention.
But…stay in denial. Just like most of you probably have during the past 2 years since the recession/housing crisis started.
Whoever the next president is, he’ll have a huge disaster to clean up after what Hoover, I mean Bush has done to this country.
Posted by: Kelly | August 14, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
jock59801…Oh believe me… as a woman we will ALWAYS have something to protest. Times are better, but we, as a male dominated society, have a long way to go. I could write a book about my experiences, as I’m sure many women my age and older could.
Posted by: Bea | August 14, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
I didn’t know Bea Arthur posted on this blog!
Posted by: Kelly | August 14, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Abe2000,
Not sure why you believe what you’ve said about Obama keeping us in wars for his entire term.. and the suggestion that Hillary wouldn’t. Clinton has been a real hawk all along, just as McCain is outdoing himself as a hawk on the Georgia situation. Both of them have found it necessary to posture in a fairly extreme way. Obama on the other hand… has had very sensible foreign policy positions and hasn’t found it necessary to posture. Of the three, only Obama fits the description “walk softly and carry a big stick”. Obama seems to fully understand that American power is best served by getting the fundamentals right and thereby staying strong. It’s the strength that counts, not talking tough.
Posted by: jake1492 | August 14, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Miki: Bill Clinton exposed himself to the Arkansas subordinate employee who brought the suit in which creepy Bill Clinton lied under oath that he was not having an affair with Monica Lewinski. You may not call that abusing women – give me another term for it. We know that they think they own black America and get furious if one African American steps out of line – Clyburn comes to mind.
Posted by: disambiguates | August 14, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
to: GL
the UNITED STATES IS a Republic not a democracy read the constitution or say the pledge of allegince
Posted by: parn | August 14, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
I think Clinton could just win the roll call vote! Specially if Michigan and Florida are allowed full votes. I think a lot of delegates now have doubts about Obama beating McCain. They’re right! If that happens, all hell will break loose! Clinton may become the candidate, but this debacle will split the Dems like nothing else. McCain will stroll to victory in November, with a lot of Obama supporters either not voting or supporting John S. Assume now for a moment, that she narrowly loses the roll call. Obama becomes candidate but many Clinton supporters will be incensed, no matter how conciliatory she is, and they won’t support Obama. The closer the vote, the more likely this is. I think the Dem convention will be a winner for McCain either way!
Posted by: Jack J | August 14, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Appeasement, this will backfire tremendously. Wait until Willie gets on stage and talks about how he defeated Jesse Jackson just like his wife should have defeated NOBROMA. Doesnt matter McCain will be laughing all the way to the WHITE house when this circus is over.
Posted by: NOBROMA | August 14, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
I am assuming that the creepy Clintons will release a tape of either a sexual affair like they released on Edwards or they will release a tape with un-American content with Obama in it. They will do this a few days before the convention so that no response cane be put together to defuse or disprove it.
I think the creepy Clintons have totally lost it this time as they have exposed themselves to all of America – interesting term when one thinks of creepy Bill and how Hillary enabled all of that by sicking th elikes of Pelicano on women who complained.
Posted by: disambiguates | August 14, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
What about those Edwards Delegates. Can they change things up now that his status has changed.
Posted by: Steve | August 14, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
What about those Edwards Delegates? Can they change things up now that his status has changed.
Posted by: Steve | August 14, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
she can definitely beat mccain. obama will have an up hill battle. she should be nominated. i really hope that obama does something incredibly stupid this week before we make a huge mistake and nominate him.
Posted by: jeffsd | August 14, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
I’m an Obama supporter. I am not nervous that this agreement will hurt Obama. It’s standard procedure.
What is very troubling is that as much as I was caught up in the primary contests, at the end of the day, my choice was either Clinton or Obama.
If you supported Hillary and won’t support Obama, then you weren’t looking at anything other than the fact that she was a woman or you didn’t want a black president.
If you supported Obama and wouldn’t have supported Clinton, you either didn’t want a woman as president, or you only were voting for him because he was black.
This isn’t the basic…”you are a racist if you don’t vote for Obama” argument.
If you take our race and sex, their take on many issues is the same. It is baffling to me that anybody would vote for McCain if you were strongly supporting a democratic candidate in the primaries.
Look at the issues. Think a little bit. This isn’t a vote for class president. If you truly believed in the issues Clinton stood for, and the solutions she presented….voting for McCain doesn’t make much sense.
I’d like to think that McCain supporters are the ones saying they were Hillary supporters in order to create some sort of buzz for this idea that Hillary supporters are jumping to McCain.
I really hope Americans aren’t that stupid.
Posted by: Jason | August 14, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Any “Hillary” supporter who says they will vote for John McCain is either a McCain plant or never understood anything that Hillary stood for in the first place. Get your heads out of your asses; this election is too important to hand over to the Republicans over hurt feelings. A woman will be elected President one day – maybe even Hillary – but it ISN’T happening this time. Get over it and start thinking about defeating the Republicans – like Hillary wants you to!
Posted by: Ghost | August 14, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
She is just like the shark in ‘Jaws’. Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water, there is her fin, sticking up out of the water. So happy when she just goes back to the Senate and does something truly useful there.
Posted by: Dora | August 14, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
She is just like the shark in ‘Jaws’. Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water, there is her fin, sticking up out of the water. So happy when she just goes back to the Senate and does something truly useful there.
Posted by: Dora | August 14, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
I am a “used to be” democrat since the DNC decided to stack the deck and shove this empty suit down our throat..and now Pelosi is calling Hillary supporters bad mannered people! I guess Pelosi has been getting a lot of mail from disenfranchised Hillary supporters! I am a Hillary supporter for McCain and so in EVERY BODY I know! I have not met ONE person, even blacks who will vote for Obama…I cannot imagine who these pollsters are calling, but NO ONE I know has been called! Guess they are using demographics in their polling!
Posted by: ethics08 | August 14, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
As an American Citizen and registered voter, I have one vote, it is mine, and I will cast it only where I feel it is to the good and welfare of my Country and it’s Citizens; I cast my vote for Hillary Clinton. Never send an inexperienced, self interest person to do the job . We have been in that situation for the past 8 years, get a clue!
Posted by: quincy | August 14, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
If Hillary steals the nomination, who wants to bet liberals will claim it was due to the vast right wing conspiracy? Liberals are certainly making it a habit to contest every election (when they lose). If they win though, everything was fair.
Posted by: Chris | August 14, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Now we know how weak Hussein Obama is,he is letting Hillary on the ballot.He should of said no. Now Hillary will be the true nominee.And Obama could go back to his golfing in Hawaii with Michelle.
This was his stupid mistake.
Posted by: Francis | August 14, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
The Obama camp encouraged her to put her name in? Yeah right! It’s more like he was forced to do it. PUMA! PUMA! PUMA!
Posted by: ANGRY WHITE WOMYN | August 14, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Stock up on the popcorn!!! We always knew HillBilly weren’t going to let anyone else take it!
I can hear HillBilly’s subtle threats now as they work the phones even as we wait… Watch your backs, Superdelegates and McCain. Those who get in HillBilly’s way have met with some grim demises.
Posted by: nowaybaby | August 14, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Go Hillary Go! Go Hillary GO! Around the bowl, and down the hole… GO Hillary, GO!
Posted by: joe in big d | August 14, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Samantha,
Obamabot? Name calling, a grade school tactic? And you expect anything you say to be taken seriously? And you are going to vote for “overturn Roe vs. Wade” and “bomb Iran” McCain…. out of spite? Seriously!
Posted by: jake1492 | August 14, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
If you have ever watched “Blazing Saddles” it fits “The Messiah” DFN Obammer to a tee. Shiny clothes, no brains, and whitey is dumb.
Posted by: Kendall W. Taylor | August 14, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Vote McCain.
Bomb, bomb bomb Iran.
PUMA PUMA PUMA for McCain
Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Posted by: puma | August 14, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Its about time Hillary was rightly named. Obama didnt win anything, he was placed with the help of the Republicans who know that Obama CANT win against McCain. If the choice is between Obama and McCain, McCains the choice, only Hillary can beat McCain. We need the Clintons back in office to fix the economy like Bill did during his terms!
Posted by: Li | August 14, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Great, lets put Hillary in the White HOUSE, then the Clintons can continue to sell out the middle class with more trade deals, like the deal they did with Mexico and Communist China.
Do you know where all the good paying middle class factory jobs went?
Don’t you know who was responsible for those factories going to those countries?
Hillary was on the Walmart Board, Bill is now worth over 100 million dollars,get the connection!
Did you see any savings at Walmart since the import tariffs were taken down?
I don’t think so, but the Clintons have become millionaires, but not by selling books or consultant fees!
Conect the dots!
Posted by: lyn | August 14, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Just when we thought Hillary was dead and buried her fingers claw to the surface once again. If she doesn’t get the nomination this year she will get it in 2012. either way this ploy is designed to cut Obama off at the knees. She will not rest until she gets her place of power.
Posted by: TruBluRepug | August 14, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Samantha, Roe v Wade hasn’t been overturned because the Supreme Court has been balanced. And it is their decision. It has nothing to do with the white house. There will be 2 justices retiring within the next 2 years. McCain has said he wants conservative justices and he would also like to see R v W overturned. So yes it is very possible for it to be overturned even with a dem congress.
Posted by: erin | August 14, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Because of his association with Bill Ayers, Obama could not get the security clearance needed to enter the Army as a private. Commander-In-Chief???
Obama is unfit, unqualified and dangerous.
Posted by: Garland | August 14, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
The only chance Hitlary has to ever become president is for Jigobama to lose. If he is a one termer she’s looking at a minimum of 8 years if he is a two termer she’s looking at 12. No one will elect a 68 year old bag let alone a 72 year old bag. She is out to thwart him.
Posted by: Jigobama | August 14, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Gregor… Quiet big guy. The idea is to blend in :-)
Imagine Hillary using her vast power of persuasion to take over Harry Reid’s job and rule next to Pelosi…maybe then we-the-people can have a real energy future that includes personally owned vehicles.
Anyone here ever read the US Constitution? The black men got the vote before the white women, and they’ll get the Oval Office first too. Someday, but not in 2009. I can think of some way better black men for the job.
Posted by: Maggie | August 14, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Oh pul-leeze, let’s CUT THE BALONEY. Where’s the hook? The Clintons have been on stage far too long. Barack Obama is the choice of Democrats far and wide. I’m a 63 y/o white female feminist and I find the Clinton antics – both he and she – pathetically self-serving, at best. It’s past time we all got behind Barack Obama. He’s a wonderful candidate and he will win in November. January 2008 shall see the beginning of an entirely new political era.
Look at the opposition: Bush/Cheney/McCain… Look at what we stand to lose… again, IF we don’t pull together. Bill and HIll, put “self” aside, and think of the country, damnit.
Damnit, think of the PLANET!!!
Posted by: Sharen | August 14, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
While the Messiah was in Hawaii working on his tan Hillary & Bill were romancing the Super Delegates and the Edwards delegates.
Hillary kept to 1,437 pantsuits for a reason. Bill can’t wait to get back to the White House to check out the new crop of young interns.
Ha-Ha-Ha Watching these Democrat morons is such great entertainment.
Posted by: Garland | August 14, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
There is no unity…Obuma split the party with his hate filled cult members!
When is this egomaniac going to pass the poison kool aid?
It is time to call all you bots home to Jesus!!
Posted by: HP Boston | August 14, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Quite the nasty one aren’t we Samantha. Why is that. I don’t care who you are. You could be the pope for all I care. Oh, I’m sorry. Am I suppossed to be impressed. You certainly don’t act like a professional with your snide comments. Roe v Wade could very well be overturned with a conservative court. If I don’t like Obama then I’ll vote him out in 4 years. I won’t take a chance with a conservative Supreme Court though for the next 20 plus years. I’m surprised any dem would.
Posted by: erin | August 14, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Some details are still being worked out, but Clinton’s name will be put into nomination at the Denver convention on Wednesday. That will be one day after Clinton addresses the convention.
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Ya sure, she must toe the line or no more Hillary! If she says one bad word…………..sorry! you have been duped no nomination for you! We changed all the rules to keep you from spoiling the coronation of king Barry O’Buma!!
Any delegate caught voting for Hillary….OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!!
Posted by: HP Boston | August 14, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Vote McCain.
Bomb, bomb bomb Iran.
PUMA PUMA PUMA for McCain
Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Posted by: puma | August 14, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Biden Obama’s VP? ANOTHER big mistake!
Biden is one of the Waco smoke-jumpers and smells nothing like change. He is one of those gangrenous Dems desperate to control the history for corrupt Dems & Repubs.
About Hillary(team Clinton)… NOBODY needs to CONTROL their history more then the wicked Witch herself…NOBODY!
If Obama wants to claim change… stay clear of Hillary and Biden!
Once again the best of the worst is a Republican. McCain will win.
Posted by: trax | August 14, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Davis, sorry. you lose..I am a retiree and so are most of my friends…we have never been called…and a lot of our families and friends are young with lan lines and they have never been called either…so just blew your theory!
Posted by: mfmros | August 14, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
If you people are so worried about Roe v Wade…learn to practice birth control! Killing babies shows you where your mentality is…and if you vote for someone because you think you will be able to kill an unwanted baby then you are sicker than sick! Such thinking shows you have a lack of humanity..I am surprised you can fill out a voting form!!
Posted by: mfmros | August 14, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Now we know how weak Hussein Obama is,he is letting Hillary on the ballot.He should of said no. Now Hillary will be the true nominee.And Obama could go back to his golfing in Hawaii with Michelle.
This was his stupid mistake.
Posted by: Francis | August 14, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
mfmros, no one likes abortion but no one should tell women what they can and can’t do with their bodies. It’s called pro-choice.
Posted by: d | August 14, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Obama had better be careful, he may end up going the way of Vince Foster…
Posted by: Norino's | August 14, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
“Then comes Sandy Berger to ‘sweep’ everything clean.” …into his pants!
Posted by: Norino's | August 14, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
I happen to be a staunch Hillary supporter even though I am a registered Republican. I have never voted Dem in my life, but was willing to do so for her knowing she is the smartest and best qualified for the job. Also, she would work her a** off just to shut up the good old boys.
Obama could run against the Geico gecko and the latter would get my vote. Leftist, Marxist, socialist, elitist, egotist BHusseinO scares the crap out of me and millions of others. I can’t wait for Hillary to say ‘I told you so’ once Barry starts screwing up everything. I really can’t stand the man or his over-opinionated wife.
If Hillary isn’t on the ballot, McCain gets my vote.
Posted by: Republican for HRC | August 14, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Most people don’t stray from their party lines when push comes to shove, and the political machine can pretty much sweep Clinton under the rug by lulling the average American into compliance with effective advertising (it’s their purpose). So, you gotta wonder why they’ve let Clinton stick around for this long …
Posted by: starksy | August 14, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Samantha, no where in any post have I said I am concerned about Roe v Wade being overturned. My concern is the Supreme Court going conservative and the direction this country will take because of it. I am looking beyond the next 4 years. Good thing I would never have you on retainer. I like my lawyers to be professionals. That’s not being naive, that’s being smart.
And McCorvey wasn’t on the Supreme Court which was balanced. She just wanted it overturned. If it goes conservative who knows what will happen.
Posted by: erin | August 14, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Erin,
I know what will happen, the scotus will interpret the constitution as it was written. The constitution says nothing regarding abortion, so it is left to the states for example.
Posted by: Norino's | August 14, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
d//if calling it “pro choice” makes you feel better, use it…in my opinion it is just an excuse to kill a baby because you were too stupid to practice birth control or abstain!!! What other reason would a woman need to use “pro choice…except for abortion…stupid!!
Posted by: mfmros | August 14, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
LeeLee how was my statement wrong on Roe V Wade. It’s not opinion, it’s fact. But like I said my concern is not Roe v Wade, it’s the Supreme Court in general. And you are wearing blinders or thich glasses if you can’t see that. You have puma on the brain.
Posted by: erin | August 14, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
I think it important that Hillary and her supporters save face. This is one election for the history books. It was a honor just to be a part of it on the forums.
I’m looking forward to this convention. Lots of drama. And Yes lots of Creative Artists. I’m also happy that the artists got involved this election year. Their voices count too and they have fans. Despite Rove and Schmit’s plan to take them out of play and just label them all celebrities.
Posted by: Katherine | August 14, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Damn, those Clintons just won’t go away.
Posted by: Alan Scher | August 14, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
What if Hillary gets more votes during the roll call?
Posted by: Norm Fankell | August 14, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
by: parn – And you point is what!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
If anyone thinks Hillary has given up, you have another think coming! Hillary has a scheme up her pants. I bet she will wind up with the nomination and completely dump BO. You can go to the bank on that one!!
Posted by: John | August 14, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
My, my don’t you understand.Obama knows he can only win unless Clinton is on the ballot as VP.This is more Hollywood set up for Obama to dramically announce Thursday night, Hillary is my VP!
Posted by: Mr Rove | August 14, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Gl, come to me. I’m the blonde witch who lives in Central Islip, NY. If you can find your way here anyone will be able to point me out to you. I’ll happily square off with you right now, just cus you need your teeth kicked down your throat for the non-stop violent threats. I’ll happily stomp your face in. All 5’5 150 blonde haired, blue-eyed, non-racist, very liberal bit of me.
I hope you take me up on that..and I HOPE that you STFU until such time.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming…
Posted by: Kerri |
Bring it on bitch! No blonde will be able to kick my ass! Bring it on!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Hey Kerri and gl, can I get in on this? What should I bring? I’ve got all sorts of toys and straps and such….
Posted by: Norino's | August 14, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Funny, all of the racist remarks come from democrats. The color of a man’s skin is never an issue, except with an Obama supporter. Ever think that maybe, just maybe, one year as a senator, and very little else in a resume just isn’t enough to lead a nation? Clinton is the clear choice for experience…Obama the clear choice as a figure head.
Don’t let the word “racism” steal the election from Hillary.
Posted by: dncman | Aug 14,
She lost what part don’t you Clinton support understand. If the Republ are saying she lost and need to move on. Some Republ really feel bad for Obama that his have to fight Clinton as well as McCain!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Outstanding Job, Senator Clinton! This is a terrific way to still fight and split or divide the party even more. This is really making the Republican party even happier as they will watch their candidate move into the White House. It should be a combined ticket between Sen Obama and Sen Clinton. This will scare the Republican party and cause them to come in second place.
Posted by: OH | August 14, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Go Hillary! If she is not ballot the Dems will not get my vote!!
Posted by: P. D. | August 14, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
I thought hillary had the popular vote. how can B. Hussain Obama be the nominee? or does the popular vote only count against the gop?
Posted by: Ackbar | August 14, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
I thought hillary had the popular vote. how can B. Hussain Obama be the nominee? or does the popular vote only count against the gop?
Posted by: Ackbar | August 14, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
So what do you Hillary supporters have to say about the electoral map.
Obama 284 McCain 241
Anyone?
Posted by: ll | August 14, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
That should be a good one… You know I forgot exactly when that “bitter woman march” is supposed to be, any of you Clintonistas know when I can tune in to see that one!
Please let me know the time for the “bitter woman march” Ha, Ha, Clintons supporters label as bitter women!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
I do not care if I look stupid. I do not get it. I wish ABC might run though the Convention process a bit.
Posted by: jfuser | August 14, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
You can not tell me that race will play a big part in this election. WalMart is telling their employees not to vote for Obama. Hamm – I never did like WalMart.
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
LeeLee07
Hilliary career is over after this mess.
From reading your comments, I know yu are one of those bitter white old women!
Posted by: gl | August 14, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Actually Hillary could be very powerful if she stays in the Senate.
Posted by: d | August 14, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
VOTING for Obama for president makes just as much sense as voting Paris Hilton for President …
ABSOLUTELY AND RIGHT ON, MCCAIN
THANKS FOR THE AD.
Posted by: GOBACKTOILLINOS | August 14, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
The thing I hate about the democrats is this pathetic desire for fairness. They are supposedly doing this so that people’s feelings arn’t hurt, and to make sure that everyone has their say. Of course we all know that this is Hillary’s last hope to get the nomination. It’s been months since we’ve heard about “super delegates”, but they could still give Hillary the nomination. Neither candidate got to 2025, so it really is still up in the air. Don’t think for a second that Hillary wouldn’t except the nomination. I would bet that she’s been quietly planning this move for months. The Clintons need power like vampires need blood.
Posted by: Ryan R | August 14, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Let Hillary’s name be submitted, all it will do is ensure discourse in the Democratic party and insure a sure win for McCain. YeeeHaaaa!!!
Posted by: Jimbo | August 14, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Oh, and one more thing. This goes to show what a spineless pushover Obama is. If he can’t stand up to the Clintons, I hate to think what would happen if he met with Ahmedinijad or Putin. As much as I would hate to see our country in a state of disgrace, I say let Obama have it, just to show America what a joke Obama is, and the kind of lousy leadership you get from democrats.
Posted by: Ryan R | August 14, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
NOMINATE HILLARY! You go girl! Ryan R was right when he posted “This goes to show what a spineless pushover Obama is. If he can’t stand up to the Clintons, I hate to think what would happen if he met with Ahmedinijad or Putin.”
Posted by: GREGOR | August 15, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
I hope and pray that our country remains safe.
I voted for Romney, and will vote for McCain.
However, I’m truly waiting for the 2012 election!
Posted by: Marla D. | August 15, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
I’m not surprised, Obama has already exhibited the ability to build a high powereed team to get the job done.
The Clintons will continue to carry their weight in the democratic party, he will use all the oarsmen he can get to solve problems that face the country.
I like it.
Posted by: Citizen Voter | August 15, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
I am a Republican exicted at the opportunity to vote for Obama……the horrific idea of having Hillary on the ballot is making me think twice about the Democratic Party….not a good decision to put someone as DIVISIVE as Hillary on the ballot…..keep it simple and let us vote for Obama and change….not the same ‘ol same ‘ol of McCain and Clinton
Posted by: ray | Aug 14, 2008 11:50:03 AM
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ROFL, excited to vote for a socialist that is a Republican? Obama does have tons of cash to pay idiots like you to post on message boards.
Posted by: Chuck | August 15, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
The article said Clinton’s supporters are disappointed because she lost but based on what I’ve read, people are disappointed mostly because the DNC and the media ganged up against a great leader who can fix our economy, strengthen our national security, and improve health care. If the DNC had treated HRC and Obama equally well, then it is reasonable to assume that Clinton would have easily won the nomination by mid February. For any one who doubts this, how many fewer votes would Obama had gotten if the Wright story had been on the news every day one week before the primaries began?
Posted by: Nancy Kallitechnis | August 15, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am
party unity? surely you jest. hillary could care less about party unity. this is about her, plain and simple. hillary is nothing more than a cold, calculating, self-centered, narcissistic egomaniac. she wants the presidency more than a junkie craves his next fix.
hillary could care less about those 18 million voters. if she truly cared about party unity, she would take a stand with all her supporters and say ‘look folks. obama won the fight fair and square. yes, it was a close fight. yes, i know you have doubts about obama. but it’s time to rally all our support behind him and work to re-take the white house in november. so, let’s all come together on this. please do not bring my name up for consideration. if nominated, i will not accept.’ that would surely demonstrate true party unity. that would demonstrate true leadership on her part. unfortunately, her actions and words (or lack of them) since suspending her campaign june 7th show her true intentions.
and one final question; why is it obama’s responsibility to pay off her campaign debt? she’s the one who mis-managed all those millions of dollars and is now deep in the hole in debt. if she can’t manage that piddlin amount of money, what will she do with hundreds of billions of dollars? she’d make bush look like a tightwad.
Posted by: pafiddler | August 15, 2008, 6:09 am 6:09 am
It is a role call and NOT a vote for the nominee. But if I were Obama I’d have someone or two or three… standing by the fire alarms ready to pull on them if Hillary and her supporters try any funny business.
Posted by: john morton | August 15, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am
I’m sick of the way the Clintons and their supporters have whinned and cried. OH we are women don’t play so rough, but let us in to play. It’s time to sent the clintons out to pasture and be rid of this pair of jackels. Neither Clinton, McCain or Obama show change they’re all part of the mess this country is in. Lets get rid of all the incumbants and start over. But all you Clinton, McCain, & Obama supporters blindy follow like sheep and vote in the same crap we have now
Posted by: rikicad | August 15, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
I say it’s great that Hillary will get this chance. She is a stronger candidate than Obama. I think the downside is that a split among democrats would likely cause mini-Bush to win…
Posted by: h | August 15, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
First of all, most of us are not voting for Senator Obama just because he is black. There have been black candidates in the past few elections and I did not vote for them, I didn’t even vote Democrat in 2004 even though I now realize I should have given Kerry a shot. The reason that I am voting for Senator Obama instead of John McCain is because the Republicans dont care about most Americans, they wrap themselves up in the American flag and throw out simples terms like Shrinking Big Government and Support our Troops. But when closely examined when they say shrink big government that means they only want to privatize government functions and continue to fleese the American taxpayers with huge ridiculous contracts to corporations whose sole purpose is to gravy train off the US Treasury. And when they say Support our Troops, they really mean Support those Corporate contractors. Every single thing that was done under the Bush Administration was to great benefit to the contractors, not the American people. Senator Obama is a departure from that and really anyone making less than $250K a year should run from McCain.
Posted by: AfroTexan | August 15, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
If you consider yourself a Democrat and believe in the Democratic ideals then why would you vote for McCain? No matter if you are a supporter of Clinton or
Obama, shouldn’t you be a supporter of the party? I know I want my son to grow up under the watch of the Democratic party and not to return to a faux
Reaganomic Era where the majority of Americans are hurting for money.
Posted by: St. Clair | August 15, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
The committed superdelegates have to vote for that candidate in the first round..correct ?
Obama’s superdelegate lead looks insurmountable ? Does anyone concur ?
Posted by: SouthBeach | August 15, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
@ Ackbar
no she don’t have the popular vote. She’s like 300+k behind and even if they would have allowed her to get the Florida ones she still would have been 15+k behind the popular vote.
Posted by: WIL | August 15, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Should be Clinton-Obama, NOT Obama-Clinton ticket!
Posted by: golfgirlusa | August 15, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Obama already challenged her and she lost disgracefully! What else does she want? They might as well give this to Obama coz he has won!
Posted by: Angie | August 15, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Hillary has been fighting most of her life to bring equally to all races while Sen. Obama has been hating the white race by listening to hate filled speeches in his raciest church for much of his. How could anyone try and paint her and her supporters as being raciest is beyond me. We are not blind and will not close our eyes to the truth.
Posted by: Ratfinkrus | August 15, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Mark, you are so on it today! That’s right I so agree with you. Let them all tell the truth. They don’t want a black president.
Posted by: Henderson | August 15, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
The COLB has to do with his citiseoship with out it you cant be the POTUS….
Posted by: RELD1127 | August 15, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Answer the question…
WOULD YOU VOTE FOR HIM?
Answer this question..
What are your views on McCain cheating on his FIRST wife. He’s had multiple wives. What kind of commit that? He made an Oath with GOD to till death do they part and he broke that promise! He lied to GOD and got a divorce. What makes you think he won’t lie to you?
You want him for pres?
That explains all of his “flip flopping”
He has no soul. He soled it to the devil to get out of Vietnam alive!!
Posted by: Mark | August 15, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
I do commend his service to this country. I really do…..
But he has no spine. The republicans ripped it out of him when got the nominee for pres and they didn’t.
We all know they hate him.
Posted by: Mark | August 15, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
I’m also a vet! You watch it…I’ve seen soldiers freeze! He was a POW cause he got caught! Not because he was brave.. Getting caught has nothing to do with bravery..
Bank robbers get caught! Are they brave?
Whats your beef with Obama?
0 scandals
No real controversy. (Only the conspiracy theories)
Family values are in tact.
He has been right all the points regarding foreign policy and the economy.
Posted by: Mark | August 15, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Obama does not owe the Clinton’s anything. Hillary is behaving like a spoiled brat who can not accept the fact that she lost. Hillary, I’m going to help you out and give you a head start for November. Get ready now and say it with me, “Congratulations, President Obama”
Posted by: Denise | August 16, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
I am happy that Senator Clinton’s name will be placed in nomination, it would be simply ludicrous if her name wasn’t placed in nomination. Sadly, if this is purely a symbolic event, we will clearly all be aware of it, and it IS sad because I know Obama can’t win and Hillary can. I don’t care what Obama-Media says, and I know we’ve already had the American media dictate our reality for far too long, and worse, we have allowed the news media to make the news, but the truth is that Obama doesn’t stand a chance of winning the general election if he is the nominee.
Obama didn’t win the popular vote, nor the big blue dem states, nor the all important purple swing states, and he mainly won red republican states by caucus. He is an extremely weak candidate because of this, and also the fact that he is very inexperienced, has a flimsy resume, a questionable record, and a disturbing background. Beyond that, Obama outspent Hillary 4 to 1 in places like PA, and Hillary just kept winning and winning, especially toward the end, which is a bad sign for Obama. Obama only made it this far because the media has been in the tank for him, protecting and promoting him, while never vetting him as they concentrated on attacking the Clinton’s and Hillary’s supporters. Absolutely no one will forget that delegates were stolen from Hillary and given to Obama, no one will forget the under-handed actions at the caucuses, and no one will forget that accusations of racism and methods of misogyny were used for politcal gain.
NONE of it will be rewarded with my vote. There are millions of democrats who will not vote for Obama, and one need not look any farther than the exit polls to see that a HUGE number of democrats will not vote for Obama. You have to remember that the media covered up all of Obama’s shocking associates and history until the very end, and not even Pastor Wright hit the mainstream media until a year after he was first interviewed on Fox. Clearly there has been a media cover-up, not unlike what was done for Edwards. Only a small child would not be able to see that.
Beyond that, Hillary was called on to quit since Iowa and she kept winning and winning. It doesn’t matter what the media says, and it doesn’t matter what the “changed” dem party big tops say: MORE people want Hillary and MORE people said they would not vote for Obama if he got the official dem nom.
It’s either Hillary or McCain in 2008. I want a democrat NOW, but if Obama gets the dem nom, obviously McCain will be president, and then I will furiously wait until 2012.
DEMOCRATS are USED to losing and waiting…and waiting…
Nothing new!!
That’s why I am TIRED of waiting, and we need to elect the stronger candidate NOW..
Hillary Clinton for president in 08 OR 12.
Just Say No Deal
Puma Pac
The Denver Group
P.U.M.A.
Posted by: kat in you hat PUMA | August 16, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Don’t attack McCain’s service. It’s just as dirty as when Kerry’s service was attacked. POW to Senator is pretty impressive and powerful stuff and should be. Leave that part alone….it will backfire…Issues are enough; especially in this election after the BUSH/Republican years.
Posted by: irma | August 16, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Reaganfan; Listening to women and half the Dems is not considered weak. It’s considered leadership. It’s considered being open minded, inclusive etc. The necessary ingredients to unite people in order to lead them. Weakness is doing whatever in the hell you want regardless of the desires of the people you claim you want to lead. Let me think….oh like BUSH! Now there’s not only a wimp, but a total moron to boot!
Posted by: irma | August 16, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
I’m an Obama supporter 100%! If by some unjust fate Hilary is nominated I will make my voice(& vote) heard in another way. I strongly urge all Obama supporters to not vote in ’08-if Clinton is on the ballot. Make our voice count with extremely low turn out to show how we despise selfish,soar losers(Clinton) & that we refuse to hand over our votes out of spite to an out-dated,Bush2(McCain) or who’s that other guy(Nader)! NO OBAMA-NO VOTE!!!
Posted by: Renee | August 17, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
After reading quite a few responses that are posted here, it seems that
“white” americans have completely swallowed the bait, hook, line and sinker when it comes to their true feelings about people of any other color other than your own. Why is it ok for people of different races, religions and backgrounds to elect presidents as long as they are “white
men”; but you all don’t WANT TO SUPPORT
anyone that is not from your so-called world-be it racial or gender? I wish to God that someone would tell me out of all the past presidents we’ve had, how
many of them had “any” experience at being president “before” they got the
job!!?
Posted by: S2S+rs2008 | August 18, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Is there any question that Obama is a big liar? Vote for a liar and you’ll be a slave of liars. Why should he keep his promises to you when it does not matter, and he would get your vote anyways? If you have no principles about who you vote for, why do you expect your candidate to have any principles?
Posted by: Peter Man | August 18, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
This is the first truly “democratic” decision that this party has made since its undemocratic actions on May 3l. If Hillary’s name is truly put into nomination, as in all the past conventions in my lifetime, she will have an opportunity to win the nomination. If Obama, Dean, and the DNC do anything else, they will lose forever the Democrats for Hillary who know that the media and the DNC misinformed the American people by letting them believe that the superdelegates could vote before the convention. A “delegate” is a delegate to a convention and must cast his/her vote there; until that time, no vote is official. It is sad to read all the comments above from US citizens who are so uninformed about the Democratic Party nomination process.
Judy
Posted by: Judith Wish | August 21, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
This is the first truly “democratic” decision that this party has made since its undemocratic actions on May 3l. If Hillary’s name is truly put into nomination, as in all the past conventions in my lifetime, she will have an opportunity to win the nomination. If Obama, Dean, and the DNC do anything else, they will lose forever the Democrats for Hillary who know that the media and the DNC misinformed the American people by letting them believe that the superdelegates could vote before the convention. A “delegate” is a delegate to a convention and must cast his/her vote there; until that time, no vote is official. It is sad to read all the comments above from US citizens who are so uninformed about the Democratic Party nomination process.
Judy
Posted by: Judith Wish | August 21, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Ahhh… How sweet it is to have this discussion instead of discussing which poison we think the prince used to accend to the throne, and other palace intrigues. At least they still have to lie and bribe enough of us to make their presidency look legit.
Sure there are Gore-like tricks of counting the leftist counties twice in the close races for state electors, but it is still us making those votes that have to be creatively counted. If McCain wins this time, it’ll be 2000 all over.
Gruesome, but still better than the Royals alternative.
Posted by: Maggie | August 21, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
I don’t dislike Obama, I just – like most other Clinton supporters – have not heard a word of substance in anything the man has said. We need a president not a pep rally. Many of the people voting for Obama are so young that they have no recollection of how good Clinton politics were… and after the last 8yrs.. anything looks good. The younger people that are coming out in swarms for Obama are mostly young adults that are still living at home and do not know what it is like to struggle in the job market, worry about healthcare for their families, or have ever owned a home – let alone had to worry about losing it. The VP choice is going to make or break him – It’s bad enough that he needs to hang on to a VP’s coattail to strengthen him against McCain (who is not a very strong Rep candidate to begin with).
Posted by: D. Maguire | August 22, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm