Did Edwards’ Lies Hurt Biden and Richardson?

Let’s have somebody do some research into what the Press was saying about Edwards and rumors of his infidelity during the primaries.
Was there a slanting of the news to hide or shove this aside to help Edwards and Obama? And even trying to blame the Clinton campaign for bringing this Edward’s issue up?
Without Edwards in the race (or any candidate) it would have been a different race.
Did the press sideline this Edward’s story in order to make an effect the primaries?

The blame goes to anyone but Clinton for these Hillary supporters. It was Obama, it was the media, it was Edwards, it was sexism, it was Mark Penn. Face it, if she had the skills to be President she would have won the nomination. It’s time to put the blame where it belongs.

Sally
it is sad and revolting when people are using Elizabeth Edwards’ tragedy to further their own candidate.
John Edwards if he had not run would have had almost no effect on Clinton’s numbers…
…it is revisionist history to say they would. If anything Biden and Dodd being stronger would have taken away more from Clinton.
It is sad when Howard Wolfson is still so slimey he will use something like this to further a client who probably lost because of him (Wolfson) using tactics like this.
It is so self-serving at another persons tragedy to use this as has been done in the past 24 hours. It speaks to and reminds people of the worst side of this campaign and makes people like Clinton even less.
which is sad.
wolfson should shut his mouth.

C’mon, Jake. We all know NOTHING would have made a dramatic difference for Biden or Richardson. Biden is a good man but was overshadowed by Obama and Clinton (and Edwards too but that’s beside the point). Richardson performed abyssmally during the debates. No way either of them would have gotten the nomination.

The Clintons had to answer on 60 minutes to the Enquirer-led story about Gennifer Flowers. I’m not sure Wolfson’s conjecture holds up, but I can absolutely understand the Clintons feeling that Edwards was protected in a way they were not. And that did have some effect on the primaries.
It’s like a bad call from the ref against their team. It’s natural to ask “what if?”.
I can’t blame the Hillary camp for being upset over the protection Edwards got, and feeling that it might have changed the game.

I can only go by fact and since my family were edwards supporters and switched to Obama when Edwards dropped out plus the fact that the election was always Hillary’s to win or lose since she had such a huge advantage, someone is barking up the wrong tree to think Edwards’ affair would have helped Hillary one bit. In fact, it may have hurt her more since she didn’t do anything while Bill was running around having affairs left and right.

The media totally protected john edwards. Why they did this is beyond me.
Quite frankly it points to the liberal bias in the media. But this same liberal bias does not protect the Clintons… remember Bill and how the press loved to shame him about extramarital affairs?

If the mainstream media had followed up on the story, would Edwards have been able to endorse Obama at the critical point in the primaries thus influencing both the superdelegates and the late State voters?
Is the mainstream media deflecting criticism to the Clintons to avoid questions about why they were beaten to the story by a tabloid?
It seems the people who are getting hurt are the Edwards’ family. He really screwed up, but there is a lot of fancy footwork going on in the media. CNN covered it for 12 solid hours while Georgia was being bombed into submission.

“The media totally protected john edwards. Why they did this is beyond me.”

Edwards-Gate and the media non-response to it. This is a good conspiracy theory on how the media tried to protect Obama by not defusing Edwards so that Edwards could throw his support to Obama during a critical part in the nomination campaign.

“so that Edwards could throw his support to Obama”

He screwed up, Belle. Men in his profession don’t go near that kind of action precisely because it can be a setup. I don’t think it is. I think he bit down on the candy and it bit back.
Bernie Mac died of pneumonia. Issac Hayes is gone too. It’s a sad day really. Don’t try to make political hay out of genuine grief. I’m not a Mac fan but I appreciate his talent. On the other hand, Issac was genius incarnate and left a phenomenal catalog of work. I’ll miss the Chef AND Stax’s Black Moses. He was the real deal.

It is real funny that people are talking in hypotheticals…If, If, If…Guess what, Clinton WILL NOT BE ON THE TICKET! I wonder if the people who’ll vote McCain, or vote Anti-Obama will move out of the country, or still be crying when he inevitably wins the White House.

It’s a moot question.

“Bernie Mac died of pneumonia.”

What are the main stream media hiding still? That is the question. I know there is a slew of stuff on Obama, but they just refuse to even consider it. They are determined that he will be our next POTUS, just like they were with George Bush and then the Iraq war. (How’s that working for you?) They insist on creating our reality and we are the ones who take the consequences.

“Richardson turned out to be really bad as a candidate.”

If the democrates don’t nominate Hillary they are going to lose. Obama isn’t half the man McCain is, but Hillary is.

“Question everything, question everybody.”

I would still like an explanation about the comment policy at this blog.
My comment 2:08:59 was edited, which is your prerogative. However, it no longer makes the point I was making.
Why not just delete it?
Jake is such a great reporter, but the comment policy here is quite puzzling.

Jake is such a great reporter, but the comment policy here is quite puzzling.
Posted by: MayBee | Aug 11, 2008 3:06:36 PM
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Yeah I got EDITED also, must be a slow posting day for the site. Most days it is delete, delete. delete!!!!

Yeah I got EDITED also, must be a slow posting day for the site. Most days it is delete, delete. delete!!!!

Belle, I hear your black helicopters coming over the hill…
The NE will be releasing verified stuff on Edwards in dribs and drabs in the coming weeks, exposing even more lies.
It’s a sad, sad day when the NE has more credibility than the main networks!
I, for one, am looking forward to the entertainment of it all.

“We are planning a third party,”

With Obama we will have 2 Peloci’s and a Harry running the country. They will be more liberal than Karl Marx.

My take: Edwards has hurt the cantidate he endorsed: Obama.

My take: Edwards has hurt the cantidate he endorsed: Obama.

Obama won this nomination fair and square. Hillary lost this nomination for several reasons: 1) Hillary and her campaign didn’t realize this was a change election and ran her campaign as if she were a successful incumbent running for re-election, 2) Hillary’s campaign ran the same 16 state stategy (big states versus small states) during the primaries that has failed the dems in the last 2 national elections. A strategy that basically ignores two-thirds of America and only campaigns in a handful of states. Her campaign didn’t for example really focus on the caucus states. Out of several caucus states, Hillary only won 1 of those states. That strategy really hurt her campaign, and 3) Hillary assumed that the primary would be over with by Super Tuesday and did not budget financially for the race to go further should that had been neccessary. Hillary herself was interviewed during the primaries by one of the major networks and said that the primaries would be over with by Super Tuesday. To PUMAS and the rest that will not except that she fairly lost this primary, you need to go to therapy treatments now. There was no conspiracy against Hillary. Her campaign’s strategy was wrong. That is what cost her this nomination period.

Obama won this nomination fair and square. Hillary lost this nomination for several reasons: 1) Hillary and her campaign didn’t realize this was a change election and ran her campaign as if she were a successful incumbent running for re-election, 2) Hillary’s campaign ran the same 16 state stategy (big states versus small states) during the primaries that has failed the dems in the last 2 national elections. A strategy that basically ignores two-thirds of America and only campaigns in a handful of states. Her campaign didn’t for example really focus on the caucus states. Out of several caucus states, Hillary only won 1 of those states. That strategy really hurt her campaign, and 3) Hillary assumed that the primary would be over with by Super Tuesday and did not budget financially for the race to go further should that had been neccessary. Hillary herself was interviewed during the primaries by one of the major networks and said that the primaries would be over with by Super Tuesday. To PUMAS and the rest that will not except that she fairly lost this primary, you need to go to therapy treatments now. There was no conspiracy against Hillary. Her campaign’s strategy was wrong. That is what cost her this nomination period.
Posted by: Newswatcher | Aug 11, 2008 3:54:45
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This is and has always been the Obama and DNC RETORIC!!
It is hogwash and does not past the smell test. You are probably an EDWARDS fan too!

“Obama won this nomination fair and square.”
Absolutely NOT. Clinton lost because Obama was not well vetted until after the first 11 primaries. It was nip and tuck for Obama after that. The early primaries he won were before his scandals (Wright, Rezko, Ayers, etc hit the news. Many who voted for him have regretted it.

“Obama isn’t half the man McCain is, but Hillary is.”
Agreed. Obama refused to debate Clinton. He is just not a stand-up person.

“Recent polls have shown 86% of the people who voted for Hillary are happy to support Obama now.”
Did they use word “happy”?

I think we all need to move on past the primaries. They’re over!
As regards former Senator Edwards, can anyone put themselves in the mind of a man who has lost a child in a car wreck and is losing his wife to cancer?
Let’s not be too hasty in judging his actions which he has admitted were wrong and deeply hurtful to his family.
It is a pity that this episode will detract from his message which was focusing media attention on the issue of poverty in America in a way that it has not done since the Johnson administration.
Des
IRELAND

Howard Wolfson doesn’t exactly sound like he’ll be winning any good sportsmanship awards.

I was present at the Iowa caucus. This majority-White state punished Hillary Rodham Clinton specifically for her vote to authorize the Iraq War and her refusal to acknowledge that her vote of authorization may have been a mistake in judgement. Likely because apologizing didn’t work for Kerry four years prior. But… that was four years ago. HRCs vote for war is why Obama was the first choice for Iowans and Edwards was the second choice for Iowans with Clinton last. EVEN AFTER EDWARDS SUSPENDED HIS CAMPAIGN… Iowa reaffirmed its decision at the next convention and nearly all of Edwards’ delegates decided to align themselves with Obama’s campaign, NOT CLINTON’s. Why? It was always the Iraq War. Hillary lost the Iowa caucus years ago. If she had ignored the bad triangulation advice from Bill Clinton to vote for the war, she probably would have won Iowa. If she had ignored the bad campaign advice she got from Penn (or likely Wolfson, since he seems eager to deflect blame) to refuse to apologize or back down during the campaign, she would have won Iowa. She was given many, many opportunities to open her mouth and say the words in debate after debate. She either would not or could not. And now, her campaign advisers continue to blame everyone except Hillary Clinton for Hillary Clinton’s lost. Doesn’t look good now. Won’t look good in 2012 when Hillary has to ask Iowa for support again. Just a few moments of bad strategy and judgement in a long line of bad strategy and judgement this past primary season.

In every corner of America we are hunkered down.
PUMA will be here long after the dust settles. We are planning a third party, the cats are on the prowl..
THE IMPERIAL PUMA PARTY!
Posted by: HP Boston | Aug 11, 2008 3:24:44 PM
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YEH Lets do a new party. the old one is dead and rotten carrion. the new leader has proven to be totally corrupt. what can be expected from a Chicago politician.
Democrat No More
Looking for a place to park
Voting for McCain this election.
Punish the Dems for their arrogance and abuse of the voters.
People should have fought against the other great orator Hitler and we would have a better world. Our Democratic Constitution demands we fight to the bitter end. NO MORE ABUSE from Obama and DNC.

Hillary was repeatedly abused, scorned and lied to during the course of the so-called Political Campaign.
Sexism oozed from every pore of the mainstrem media’s so-called correspondents. they cheered her failure. they laughed at her woe.
Woe is all of us. WE have lost.
Hillary will stay strong. She will overcome. This woman is remarkable.
But will we overcome?
god bless america.