Hillary Rah-Rahs Palin
I think it would be fair to say that the Obama campaign wishes Sen. Hillary Clinton’s statement on Gov. Palin were harsher.
"We should all be proud of Governor Sarah Palin’s historic nomination, and I congratulate her and Senator McCain," Clinton said. "While their policies would take America in the wrong direction, Governor Palin will add an important new voice to the debate."
There’s still time for Clinton to pivot and point out that she and Palin disagree on quite a bit — Palin opposes legal abortion even for victims of rape and incest, for example — but the Clinton-Obama psychodrama is very much present in these comments from the junior senator from New York. Sens. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, and Joe Biden, D-Del., risk looking like chauvinistic bullies when they go after Palin — they need women — especially Clinton — to do that for them.
Will she rise to the task?
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Clinton has already done more than any defeated candidate to support the winner – especially one who received such harsh treatment from her party and the “liberal” media. I don’t blame her for sounding moderate on Palin. Go Girl!
Posted by: tony | August 30, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Palin is an Ok Choice, But she is no Hillary. What about the scandal?
I dont know if McCain was considering everything, this pick just seems kind of rushed.? Obama will find it if there is anything on this girl.
Posted by: Peter | August 30, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
McCain gave us the “CHANGE” AND “HOPE” that Obama has been talking about. Obama talks the talk but McCain delivers.
Posted by: john | August 30, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Palin should be expected to stand up to the normal rigors and scrutiny of campaigning as a vp nominee as Hillary Clinton did with her own campaigning. If McCain and his cronies sweep down in a protective gesture while Palin is under test and fire, they’ll look solicitous and antiquated. Afterall, this is an election, not a re-run on Turner Classic Movies. Hillary Clinton was simply practicing statesmanship by congratulating her, it was hardly cheering her on.
Posted by: kat | August 30, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Since the DNC set up a primary process in which party bosses and super delegates could trump the voters (and in the aftermath, shafting Michigan, Florida, and Hillary), I think it is great H. Clinton seems to be taking the high road on the RNC VP pick. (Note – with the superdelegate scheme, the DNC had governors of states casting their votes for Obama when their states went Hillary (e.g., NM) – and probably even vice versa).
DNC party bosses had their selection in the bag for him since even before 2004 when Obama was tapped to give the 2004 DNC keynote address; which as a play by Kerry and Kennedy to spite the Clintons… funny how “Democrat” has so many syllables in common with “democracy” – the 2 couldn’t be further apart. Obama was a setup. Hillary got screwed though she won the primary.
Posted by: cpc | August 30, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Sarah Palin–you are NO Hillary Clinton!
Posted by: Rick | August 30, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
lmao Obamie tried to diss Palin and it backfired big time.. This big eared Goof of the democrat party is in over his head now.. As reported by ABC the “biden” bill may create more than 200,000 forclosures. yep keep up the good work dems..
Posted by: Hilly-Billy | August 30, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
She respects what it changes in Republican politics but she will be more negative as this goes on.
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | August 30, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
I’ve just been watching SP give highlights for a sports report. Not sure what to think. She twice said that one team “killed” the other. Perhaps this is an 80′s thing…or an Alaska thing.
Posted by: Tim | August 30, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
“Also, while I’m sure Sarah Palin appreciates your gallant preemption of chauvinistic bullying, my guess is she can defend herself just fine.”
And she does have to defend herself. If she cannot defend herself, then in no way should she be VP. Because if she cannot stand up for herself, then she cannot stand up for the US either as VP or potential POTUS.
Posted by: Dana | August 30, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Wow, what power the Clintons have. Every where you read it’s all about the Clintons and what they say or don’t say. Bet after the Obama’s defeat in November they will be right back at the helm of the Democratic party. Move over Scream.
Go Palin.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Jake,
I don’t think Hillary is “rah rah” for Palin. I just think it is a bland statement.
I think bashing her out the gate would have been wrong. Even the Obama campaign backed off from that as well.
The Obama campaign and I am sure Hillary as well knows that the enemy is NOT Palin but instead McCain. McCain is trying to reclaim his “maverick” image as the reformer and the original change agent. In his mind picking Palin helps him with that immage.
The Obama team has just released an ad basically saying that with the Palin pick NOTHING as change. McCain isn’t a maverick but is instead Bush’s sidekick.
Again the Obama campaign is reminding voters do you want more of the same.
I actually think it would be to Hillary’s advantage NOT for McCain to win (she can run in 2016 if Obama wins). If that was to happen the champion for women will no longer be Hillary but Palin. She will realize that she has not worked so hard to put 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling to have a 40 something hockey mom take her mantle away.
Hillary will come out swinging after the GOP convention. She wants to be the voice of women not Palin.
Posted by: vickie | August 30, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Palin will be something Obama never could be–one of the guys. Those clinging to their guns guys. They are going to love this woman.
And female Republicans/Independents have their own hero–their Hillary.
Obama supporters are so afraid of Palin they have resorted to defending Hillary.
Obama/Biden look pretty boring compared to the two mavericks. Obama talks change and McCain delivers.
Posted by: cindy in nc | August 30, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Sarah Palin is a small time Gov of a Small time Welfare State, Bought Paid for, and owned by Big Oil. They pay no Income, Property, or Sales tax, and get a check to boot. Whatever Oil wants it gets.
So while you are paying at the Pump, wondering why so much of your income is going to Energy, paying your Sales, Income, and Property tax, remember that you have been paying for Alaska too.
Sounds like she has been Gov of Saudi Arabia to me.
Posted by: Thinking | August 30, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Jay, I think Hillary is much closer in her point of views to Palin than she is to Obama. Please, I am a Dem. and I don’t really have a strong feeling about pro-choice stand. I am a Hillary supporter and will vote for McCain and happy to see another strong woman coming on board on the political scene.
Posted by: nancy | August 30, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
McCAIN/PALIN ’08.
[I'M EX-DEMOCRAT-HILLARY SUPPORTER
VOTING REPUBLICAN].
Posted by: NICHOLAS | August 30, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Palin definitely clinched it for me. Before it was hold my nose and vote McCain. Now I can do it and feel good about it. I have always been a pro-life Democrat, but the DNC’S treatment of Hillary sickened me, and I can’t stand Obama. I hope he will be soundly defeated. MCCAIN/PALIN ’08.
Posted by: Anita Baker | August 30, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Sarah Palin is the least qualified major party Vice Presidential candidate in American history. John McCain has made a mockery of the office by selecting her. This is an absolutely ridiculous, ridiculous choice.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | August 30, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Clintons gave Obama 7 points bounce, can this “YES WE CAN” guy does something for himself without Clinton’s help?? I am so happy that Hillary came out and congradulated Palin. Please Hillary if you read this, DON’T DISRESPECT PALIN because she is a Rep. She is a strong woman and has more guts and experience than Barry, who seems to be fake and phony.
Posted by: nancy | August 30, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
“Obama supporters are so afraid of Palin they have resorted to defending Hillary.”
Really, can you believe it. Now they are defending Hillary. Too little, too late.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Obama, made a major political mistake on not getting Hillary and bringing the whole party together, period!
McCain helped his campaign by picking another maverick and female who can stand up to anyone. Palin has as much experience as Obama on top of his ticket. Palin is a new inspiring pick the republicans need. She has 80 percent approval in Alaska and is the most popular Governor in America. She taxed oil companies and gave it all back to Alaska’s taxpayers at $1,200 each.
Obama is a smart inspiring speaker, but Palin’s actions speak louder than political words. She has fought corruption in both parties in Alaska. When she speaks she says it like it is, unlike polished career politicians. Some people can talk the talk, but Palin can walk the walk. Anyone with doubts about Palin should watch her interview with Maria Bartiromo on CNBC.
People are talking negatively about Palin without knowing all the facts about what she has achieved, including the media because they are in love with Obama. The media is saying McCain picked Palin because of Hillary not being picked and I love Hillary, but Sarah is the real deal for republicans and she gives them a new face that they need to reform their party. The republican party has always been for the rich and special interests, Sarah represents “we the people” and is against government waste and the good old boy network, this is just what republicans need to fix their image and party direction.
Now the race is exciting and change is coming to both parties! History will be made period with either Obama or McCain!
Posted by: abel | August 30, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
By the way I am a Hillary supporter and will, gladly, vote for McCain now!
Posted by: nancy | August 30, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Barack Obama, you are no JFK, MLK or any other decent Democrat I have heard about in the last 50 years. You a most corrupt guy from the Chicago machine that will say and do anything to get elected. How many politicians/business people are being investigated, are indicted or in jail that were your associates or supporters.
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO OBAMA, NOT NOW, NOT EVER.
Posted by: mary | August 30, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
“Sarah Palin–you are NO Hillary Clinton!”
But you’re close enough!!
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Libs are in a tither. Palin for VP is more qualified than BO is to be prez. And the good new is “she is no Hillary Clinton.” BO has no experience except to run for office.
Posted by: v racer | August 30, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Jake, after what the DNC and party did to her in the primary … I think that is her code-word for :
“I release my delegates to the McCain/Palin” ticket
Posted by: McCain/Palin 2008 | August 30, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
Lord! McCain first Exec decision. he screwed up. Are you people will give him a chance to decide for this country?
Posted by: change | August 30, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Which McCain adviser decided to put McCain’s acceptance speech up against opening night of the NFL? Fire him!
Posted by: Tim | August 30, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
It is a shame Hillary drank the koolaid.
You have to give her credit, She Honored her word.
I do Beleive Palin will Protect and Defend the Constitution, Protect and Defend Her Country. She will do what is in the best interest of the Country and the people.
She is a far better choice for VP, than Obama is for President.
I am sure Obama will get evil and dig up anything he can on her, if she removed a hang nail the wrong way he will use that against her.
Mr Obama has proven with his own track record he is evil, with his lies, deceit, twisting of facts and statements, smears and Chicago land tactics.
He will attack her evily and mericeless, Blame her for anything he can. For that is all he knows.
Posted by: seah | August 30, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Hillary Clinton sounds much more presidential than the Obama-Biden camp on Sarah Palin.
Obama camp has plenty of women such as Michelle Obama or Oprah Winfrey to attack Sarah Palin selection.
Hillary Clinton should not become Barack Obama’s “babysitter” cleaning up all the mess he created for passing her over as VP running mate.
Posted by: Angel | August 30, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Gov. Palin doesn’t have decades of experience as a DC insider. But then Barack Obama is inexperienced as well and he’s running for president, not VP. Sarah Palin has had two years of executive experience in state government, has fought corruption in her own party and has stood up to Big Oil as governor. Can Obama or Biden match that? I am a lifelong centrist Democrat who cannot vote for a book author who has lectured on constitutional law and hitched his star to the Daley political machine in Chicago. Another Democrat for McCain/Palin.
Posted by: Graniteman | August 30, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
MCCAIN LOST MY VOTE AS WELL….. I am a die hard Republican and this pick is a big joke designed to pander to the Hillary women who won’t vote for her anyway. I would of easily voted for him if he picked Romney or maybe even Huckabee or Hutcheson from Texas. I really wanted Tim Pawlenty, Colin Powell or Condi Rice. I have never heard of this woman only that a few years ago she was a PTA president and that she was a former Beauty Queen with topless pictures floating around the internet someplace, but that is all I know. Please, please, don’t try to justify her “executive experience” to me……the Presidency is WAY too important for a VP pick who is nothing more than a warm body… SHE HAS NO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE…..and as far as I’m concerned, McCain is 72 years old…if god forbid something were to happen to McCain and she was at the helm during a world crisis as President, I shudder to think what will happen with her at the wheel of the ship or her hand on the button. How can he say that she is the “most qualified VP pick?”…for what? More qualified than Condi Rice?? Are you kidding?? What is it with John and beauty queens anyway? Was that the Viagra taking effect? THIS IS LIKE “WEEKEND AT BERNIES” MEETS “LEAGALLY BLONDE”, I think I’m gonna sit this one out. I don’t care what my fellow Republicans say, McCain just lost the election, we don’t have a chance with the independents…………John, you just blew it or Palin blew you or something like that. WHAT IN GOD’S NAME WERE YOU THINKING JOHN!!
Posted by: Die Hard Republican | August 30, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
McShame is a fool to think Hillliary supportering is being used so McShame can win. No I don’t think Hilliary is being to soft on her at this presented time. There will be penty of time for Hilliary to dig into Palin.
Will she rise to the task?
Yes, she will when the time is right. Yesterday was not the time.
Posted by: gl | August 30, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
“BO has no experience except to run for office.”
They call him the One, but he really is the ZerO.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
It’s a shame when republicans have to pretend to be disgruntled democrats. LMAO
Support your candidate and let us know why you support them, not faking being a democrat to put a wedge. Talk about how great your candidate is like the Obama folks do.
Posted by: Ibro | August 30, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Who out there knows who their local state senator is? What do they do? Vote present? They execute and manage nothing. I bet most peopls know who their mayor is. Palin could go face to face and toe to toe with Obama and her work and government and executive experience would put her on top.
What has Obama done since he got to the US senate—finished his book and started his campaign for president.
Posted by: Helen in chicago | August 30, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
I think Palin was a great choice.As to the anti-abortion views: The President is not a King. George Washington already made that clear.
Posted by: mm | August 30, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
abel …your post is one of the most balanced post I’ve seen in months since this election started.
This will be an exciting election to watch :)
Posted by: McCain/Palin 2008 | August 30, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
I have to say that it was hardly a Rah- Rah!
She is still a typical Republican, with a Republican agenda. You know, Tax me, but not them, Big Oil, Big Business, religous right, knee jerk reactions, Party first, I have mine mentality, and let us raise the fees.
Oh, let’s send Alaska’s bills to the lower 48.
Posted by: Thinking | August 30, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Clarence Thomas, Harriet Meirs, and Sarah Palin. The Republicans do this over and over. Pick a token candidate ad dare the opposition to complain. They won’t get away with it, this election is too important. A desperate, cynical and shameful move by McCain.
More people watched the last night of the D-convention than the Opening ceremony of the Olympics of the last night of American Idol. Send a message … turn off the TV … don’t even watch the R-convention. It’s a re-run, you’ve seen it all before.
Bush/Cheney/McCain
No More Years.
Posted by: thebob.bob | August 30, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
If women fall for this cheap ploy, this ridiculous trick, it only proves how stupid we are as a nation. Sarah Palin is no doubt a strong woman but she will not advance women’s rights. As a matter of fact she will undermine them. How cynical and calculating a pick this is. I can’t believe women in America will throw away the progress they have made to have a TOKEN woman on the ballot. She is no Hillary Clinton!
Posted by: BellTolls4Thee | August 30, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Which McCain adviser decided to put McCain’s acceptance speech up against opening night of the NFL? Fire him!
Tim I usually don’t agree with, but on this I do.
Posted by: gl | August 30, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
I really don’t know how everyone can honestly say that Palin has all that much LESS experience than the rest of the candidates McCain had to choose from.
Ridge and Lieberman were not viable options for McCain anyway, as well as Hutchison and Snowe who are both pro-choice.
Romney was a ONE TERM (4 years) Governor from Massachusetts. All he had to offer in addition to that was his experience in business (which Palin also has, by the way), and a failed bid for the Presidency. Plus the fact that he is almost twenty years OLDER than Palin, and is MALE.
Pawlenty had a few years in the state legislature (just like the inexperienced Obama), and has just a couple of more years under his belt as Governor.
Other than the fact that these two are MALE, and a little bit older (in Pawlenty’s case anyway), I don’t see how either of these two are that much MORE experienced than Palin.
I think it just boils down to the fact that these critics feel better with a MAN at the helm, as opposed to a woman.
Posted by: Lee | August 30, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
To Hillary:
Way to go Hillary for being so gracious at the convention. You were great! You are still my number one pick.
Regarding Sarah Palin, please don’t be critical of her. Leave that to Obama and Biden. You should stay above the fray.
To Everyone else:
Sarah Palin reminds me of the 1993 movie called “Dave”. In an odd kind of way, I think she might be a very interesting candidate who can also bring change to Washington as McCain’s VP. It will be interesting to see how quickly she can climb the steep learning curve on international and domestic issues.
Posted by: keval | August 30, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
hillary is not obama’s mama. she did her job at the convention, as did bill. now it is time for boy wonder to step up to the plate. he and obama supporters gotta get out from behind hillary’s pantsuit geez!
hillary supporter in new mexico
Posted by: sonia trevino | August 30, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
As an independent voter who was leaning toward McCain, now I have no choice but to vote for Obama.
Posted by: glenman | August 30, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Woman led man into taking fruit from the tree of knowledge. While you would have voted democrat for a woman now ya’ll fil flop to republican just because of the gender. Very amusing. Go ahead and vote for them so we can give the rich more tax cuts and the power to the oil companies(the most profitable business)
Posted by: James | August 30, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
dear hareta – i voted for jesse jackson back in the day when he ran. i’m not voting for obama, and it has nothing to do with any fear of voting for a black man.
Posted by: tony | August 30, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Somehow the election has shifted its focus to Senator McCain’s impetuous decision to pick Governor Palin of Alaska as his running mate, rather than stay on course, in which I see being the main issues, our sagging economy and questionable foreign policy.
However, I will say this, Ms. Palin’s decision to accept the nomination for Vice President, without a doubt, creates serious concerns to serve in this capacity. As a parent myself, balancing equal time between work and family can be challenging. Governor Palin has small children, including a baby with Down syndrome, something that strikes a sensitive cord, since my first born succumb to an illness much similar to this one. Had my 4-day old daughter lived, it would have required much of my time in attending to her special needs and treatment throughout her lifetime.
The Vice President position comes with a great deal of responsibility, equally important as the job of President. A PART-TIME VICE PRESIDENT IS UNACCEPTABLE. Either Governor Palin will end up lacking in her obligations to fulfill motherhood duties, or struggle in effort to carry out that which is expected of her as V.P. This is not a small state like Alaska. It’s the United States of America that cannot accept anything less than to have someone WE TRUST to hold office.
Posted by: Sebrina | August 30, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
“There will be penty of time for Hilliary to dig into Palin.
Will she rise to the task?”
Hillary needs to be careful how she goes after Palin or she will lose the huge female/male base she has who see her as a champion of women’s struggles.
Hillary has nothing to gain politically by aligning herself closely with a losing ticket. Hype does not translate into votes. This isn’t a Britney Spears hyped video that translates into record sales, this is real life.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Why is anyone looking for Sen Clinton to attack Gov Palin, Sen Clinton is not on the democrated ticket and besides isn’t that why Obama wanted Biden to be the attack dog? Sen Clinton has done more than any losing nominee in history, this is Obama’s campaign and he has to be a big boy and deal with it and stop looking for Sen Clinton to get him out of bad situation. I think Sen Clinton did the right thing, Gov Palin gave her high praises how would it look if she attack her. Then the news would be calling Sen Clinton a bitter jealous woman. The DNC has nominated Obama, Sen Clinton should focus on the state of New York and let obama do his own dirty work.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | August 30, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Thinking, what is that comment about “tax them, not me?” Check the statistics. 40% of Americans do not pay any tax!! They live off the largesse of those who do. The 10% highest earning Americans pay 90% of the tax now. Where does the comment, “forcing the rich to pay their fair share” come from?? If they take their money and move to Switzerland, then what happens??
We need a consumption tax. If you consume, you pay.
Posted by: Captain America | August 30, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
and Jerry Carrier
I don’t think it was the woman from Norther Exposure
It was Karen Walker that Mccain picked yesterday for VP. I swear that was Karen Walker at the podium yeaterday… McCain did his best “just jack” impression.
everyone needs to read the newsweek article this woman didn’t know what the VP did in an interview this past year…
Kudlow had to explain things to her.
she has not paid “much attention” to Iraq.
She has almost no knowledge of 95% of the issues that are inherent to being President.
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Correction to an earlier post of mine: McCain will give his acceptance speech right after the football game ends.
Still, we’ll see if people make the switch from NFL to convention coverage.
Posted by: Tim | August 30, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Is Obama the Democratic Nominee or is Clinton?
Clinton gave the Democratic radio address today. Obama’s campaign is scared out of their pants.
You are suppose to be the nominee, not Clinton but you keep on focusing on her, keep on asking her to fight your battles. That is not her job. She gave you the speech. Obama needs to get some grit and get to work to win this. He has two months to prove himself. that is 65 days until election.
Posted by: knowledgeforreal | August 30, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
keval; looks like hillary is taking the high road with palen, good for her. we are so proud of you hillary.
it cracks me up that posters who were so critical of hillary now want hillary to save them from palen. proclaim her greatness one and all, thank you, for confirming what we knew all along that only hillary could beat the republicans.
hillary supporter in new mexico
Posted by: sonia trevino | August 30, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
“McCain’s impetuous decision to pick Governor Palin”
Impetuous? You have no friggin idea about the behind the scenes process in politics so go away.
“Either Governor Palin will end up lacking in her obligations to fulfill motherhood duties, or struggle in effort to carry out that which is expected of her as V.P.”
Retrogressive liberal, there is a nice garment that sells pretty cheaply and comes in one size fits all that you might have interest in purchasing to fit your retro mindset, it’s called a burka.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
I would hardly call that ‘rah rah ing’. Its pretty much exactly the same statement Obama gave.
Posted by: markymark | August 30, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Palin holds a Bachelor of Science degree in journalism from the University of Idaho, and two years as the governor of a state with the population of Omaha Nebraska. I don’t want her negotiating with Vladimir Putin. I wonder if she has ever been off of the continent?
Posted by: twb0392 | August 30, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
More people watched the last night of the D-convention than the Opening ceremony of the Olympics of the last night of American Idol. Send a message … turn off the TV … don’t even watch the R-convention. It’s a re-run, you’ve seen it all before.
R- Convention all ready have to compete with the storm and the NFL Opening. No one will hear the speech and the will go back to talking about Obama great speech. McShame can only get attention for a momement and by selected Palin was just to get the spotlight from Obama which worked, but will not have a long term effect. Next Friday, talks will be about Obama great speech and only a few heard McShame and it wasn’t have as good as Obama. No need for Hilliary to say any thing negative yesterday becasue she knew she would be criized on it anyway. Smart more on Hilliary!
Posted by: gl | August 30, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Why do I get the feeling that Sarah Palin is currently on a reality TV show?
Posted by: Rick | August 30, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
And I am certain that Nancy Pelosi will also come out at some point and viciously attack Palin.
Should Palin become Vice-President, it puts her CLOSER to the presidency than the post Pelosi holds.
If she did everything she could from keeping Hillary from being more powerful than she, I am certain she will do the same with Palin.
She will have fun trying, anyway.
Posted by: Lee | August 30, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
I wonder who Sen. McSame will propose as his Secretary of State–the dogcatcher from Truth of Consequences, New Mwxico?
Posted by: More Ethical Scandals | August 30, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
The Clintons have done far more than Obama deserved based on his treatment of them. It is up to him to win the election now—-or not.
Posted by: anne1244 | August 30, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
knowledge and judgment
Mccain’s got knowledge and bad judgment.
Palin’s got absolutely no knowledge…and her judgment
she does not believe evolution should be taught and believes that global warming has nothing to do with us.
she does not believe in science really…
especially if it flatly contradicts and gets in the way of her other beliefs
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Palin – what a refreshing candicate selection by John McCain. Exceleent judgement
For those Obamites, question her experience – perhaps some introspection of your own candidate would be a good place to start.
This democrat could not have been happier to be voting for McCain, especially now with Palin as his VP candidate.
John McCain – a real American hero. Palin – now there is a candidate who truely deserves the mantle of being an agent of change !! :)
Registered democrat for McCain :)
Posted by: AsBee | August 30, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Senator Clinton, stay away from these dirty political tricks. Take a long vacation and come back in 2012.
Posted by: stock_craft | August 30, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
As a long-time Democrat, I’m changing my vote to the Republican ticket this time! They now have someone who is young, hot, articulate and smart.
True, she doesn’t have much executive experience, but it beats having NONE!!
I like the fact that she is a true outsider, not impaired by Washington politics as usual. I’m impressed!
Posted by: Joel | August 30, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Putin – Her kids need to be her first job not running the USA. It is not like she have just one kid. She have five kids and a sick baby. Most women find it to be unfair to her kids.
Posted by: gl | August 30, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Senator Clinton, stay away from these dirty political tricks. Take a long vacation and come back in 2012.
Posted by: stock_craft | August 30, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
I have one thing to say to Hillary supporters who now plan to support McCain/Palin. Shame on you. You want to support a woman who just recently said she couldn’t stand Hillary’s “whining.” Excuse me? Whining? I don’t think I’d categorize Hillary’s accomplishments and calls for change as “whining.” This woman is the antithesis of Hillary Clinton. Don’t forget, Palin also doesn’t believe climate change is man-made. I suppose her bachelor’s degree in Journalism also qualifies her as a scientist. Please don’t dishonor Hillary Clinton’s decades of leadership and accomplishment by voting McCain/Palin.
Posted by: LuAnnn | August 30, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Pam
she is a straight shooter
but knows nothing about what she is shooting at.
do you all not see how dumb that is.
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Go ge her and she will they need to win and she will do all she can for after Obama she isa on the White house next….She will do all she can to move in that direction…..
Posted by: indp voter | August 30, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
gl – how sexist can you get? i have never heard a male candidate get scrutinized on childcare before. obama has 2 young kids. who’s going to take care of them? oh – i guess his wife, that’s “women’s work.” just pathetic. but that’s the true side of the democratic party, which is why so many women are pissed off.
Posted by: tony | August 30, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
“The Vice President position comes with a great deal of responsibility, equally important as the job of President. A PART-TIME VICE PRESIDENT IS UNACCEPTABLE. Either Governor Palin will end up lacking in her obligations to fulfill motherhood duties, or struggle in effort to carry out that which is expected of her as V.P. This is not a small state like Alaska.”
Hey, Clueless, read the article about her being asked to be VP. In a nutshell, she said If it’s not full-time, hard work, I don’t want the job.
“It’s the United States of America that cannot accept anything less than to have someone WE TRUST to hold office.”
At least you said one thing right. Obama is a walking mystery novel. Can’t trust him.
McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Emm | August 30, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Palin governed Alaska while pregnant!
How tough is that?
Obama’s worst nightmare–another woman tougher and more experienced than he is.
Posted by: cindy in nc | August 30, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
A woman in high office in my life time? Who’d have believed it! She seems to be a successful governor of Alaska and they seem to love her. She seems like a real honest down to earth person to me. Now she is going to be learning foreign policy from the experience she gains from McCain. I was going to stay home this election but no longer.
Posted by: grandma0f6 | August 30, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Hillary’s just being politically smart.
There’s no reason to knock Palin down when given a day or two she’ll collapse under her own weight.
Unvetted, ethically-challenged, uninformed VP picks don’t generally work out well.
Posted by: 08AMA ALL THE WAY! | August 30, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
gl does she know who Putin is…never mind the details and history of their nuyclear armaments…or the politics of their government…or where Georgia is?
I do not think she does?
so she is going to tak e over…
that’s John mcCain’s judgment pick the person to take over for him that has no idea about the world…has no history or commentary…
she was asked about Iraq…and in not being able to answer she says “I haven’t really been paying attention to Iraq?”
THIS is who John McCain picks to take over as the leader of the free world!!!!!
are you freakin kidding me!!!!
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Palin at least has executive experience….unlike Barack Hussein Obama, who has NONE…except for kissing derriere on the Chicago political machine bosses! And I’d **** sure rather have a President who is what I term as a statesman…he may be called a maverick, but he goes from the gut..and should anyone wish to, go search and see who McCain views as his role model…the last really solid President we had…Theodore Roosevelt! GO MCCAIN/PALIN!!!!
Posted by: angus | August 30, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
I am really disappointed in the Palin pick by Senator McCain. The reasons are many but I’d just like to comment on two: 1 If Mcain was elected to the Presidency at age 72, it is very likely that this woman with only a BSC degree would become President. She never went through the longest Primary campaign in history nor was she ellected by any party to run for this position. 2 Of all the people in the Republican Party there must be someone more qualified to fill this role than this woman from Alaska with 5 children or 3 children to care for including a 4 yo. Yes she might be a super woman but if she is the best that McCain has to offer, shame on him and may God help us.
Posted by: marcel | August 30, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
I am Republican who was going to vote for McCain.
Now I will vote for Obama.
We need a P/VP team to understand and be able to deal with multiple threats around the world from Islamic Extremism to South Korea to China.
This pick is way too risky.
I do not want to risk our country to a small town mayor and 1 year governor of a state less populous than Charlotte, North Carolina.
Posted by: edward Jakes | August 30, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Being an old desert rat from Arizona, it hurt to see John McCain throw the keys to the Whitehouse and Senator Obama. How I wish that Romney or Huckabee had made the ticket. I now fear for tomorrow and even more for my country
Posted by: T.Silvain | August 30, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
And I am certain that Nancy Pelosi will also come out at some point and viciously attack Palin.
You got that right and I can not wait. Palin just made the race to the white house more excited to wacth the who will win the white house. Obama/Biden2008
Posted by: gl | August 30, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
LuAnn – Obama called Clinton Annie Oakley. That’s worse to me – especially when he was dressed like Steve Irkel trying to bowl for votes in Pennsylvania.
Posted by: tony | August 30, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Palin = Obama in age and experience. The only different is one is running for VP while the other is at top of the ticket. The other different is one is beauty queen and the other is the beast. In fact they should run together as “Beauty and the Beast”
Posted by: stock_craft | August 30, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
grandma0f6
she would be the first and the last woman VP..
“she’ll be LEARNING foreign policy from John McCain”
you did not just say that.
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
If Hillary would have been furious about a Sebilius pick, imagine the possibility that Pallin would become the first female President.
I have been as cynical about Hillary as the next guy, but if she plans to run again (and I think she will, and that is why she supports the 65 year old Biden), then she will be pretty fired up to support Obama.
Posted by: MikeNJ | August 30, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Palin has more experience and leadership than Obama. I hear one more crack in the ceiling.
Posted by: martha | August 30, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
I am another democrat for McCain. I agree that more logical picks would have been Condi or Colin Powell( Oh, I would have loved to see Powell as president and still hold hope for Condi in a few years). Nevertheless, they did not want the job and they were too close to George Bush.
I am not comfortable with Palin’s experience, but for those who said she has no education please take off the Obama blinders. She is dynamite and erhaps, for whatever the initial reasons McCain picked her, it just may work.
Let’s see if Obama uses the “claws” reference as he did with Hillary. why are we forgiving him on his many unfair tactics against her and abeted by the media.? NO Way I would vote for the Obama-Biden ticket.
Posted by: Rose James | August 30, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
i wonder if someone will ask palin if she plans to take 75% of the vice-president’s usual salary of $208,100 since she agrees with mccain when he “dismissed the importance of equal pay, saying that women simply need ‘education and training.’”
hmm…maybe that’s why he chose palin. it’s another one of mccain’s strategies to cut government spending.
Posted by: BRC | August 30, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
McCain’s choice was a brilliant move. He picked a woman but it wasn’t the woman that we wanted. His choice also made us seriously think about whether we really wanted Hillary as Presdent or do we just want a woman. The answer is WE WANT HILLARY! In order to get her in by 2012, we must either vote Republican or stay at home. There is no other choice if we want to see her as president. If we vote Barack into office, most likely he will attempt a reelection. If he is reelected or even if he loses it will be 8 years before she will be able to run again. In 8 years, her age will be a factor for people to use against her. So, I urge you…and no I’m not a Republican…I am a die hard Clinton supporter…in order for Hillary to run again in 2012…we must either vote Republican or stay our behinds at home!
And yes, I am PO’d that B.O. did not pick her as his running mate!!! Then had the nerve to ask her for her support!
Posted by: SBern | August 30, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
“Obama’s worst nightmare–another woman tougher and more experienced than he is.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | August 30, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Senator Clinton has every right not to say anything to help Obama. She has her opinions and we voters have ours. Most voters are savvy enough to research political figures and draw their own conclusions.
Just as it is pointed out here, Palin is pro-life and does not support a rape victim’s right to choose. She’s against stem cell research. She is the daughter of a science teacher but supports the teaching of creationism in schools.
She leans so far right that she is in fact obtuse. I cannot fathom women who are against those things voting for her just because she’s a woman. A final thought regarding Hillary is she’s got to realize that she will need the very Democrats she is ignoring should she ever run again for the oval office. I’m just saying…
Posted by: dave.i.am. | August 30, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
As the governor of one of the most important states in the union to the United States’ economy, Palin has as much or more experience than Obama–and she’s not the one on the top of the ticket! As an executive, she has to make decisions every few minutes. She doesn’t have the luxury of a legislator to sit back on committees, pick a couple issues of interest, or vote “present.” Governors can’t vote “present!” If she were a democratic governor or the governor of an east coast state, we would already have heard TONS about the “superstar reformer.” etc., from the liberal, northeast media.
Posted by: anne1244 | August 30, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
WHAT was McCain thinking??!! Not only is this an abysmally STUPID choice, it is an uninspired one as well. With sooooo many other accomplished women in the Republican Party, he went with a third-tier, inexperienced, ethically challenged no-name…
So much for JUDGMENT being an issue in this campaign. John McCain just demonstrated that he clearly has NONE.
On to Nov 4!
Posted by: Chris in Denver | August 30, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
I hope Palin has time to write her acceptance speech for next week’s GOP convention. Wait a minute, forget that, Karl Rove already wrote it for her.
Posted by: hamishdad | August 30, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Does McCain really not recognize that he is 72 years old? He will turn 77 during his first term.
Country first? Seriously? If anyone is saying Pallin is not a gimmick, and tell me that she is the most qualified Republican, I would be shocked.
Posted by: MikeNJ | August 30, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
This VP pick is not about Obama or Hillary. What matters most for either party is that can the person chosen to be VP readily step in and make presidential decisions at a moments notice? This person must be able to consider what is best for our country, for all people. That takes a very intelligent, broad-minded, experienced, compassionate indivdual. We have too much at stake in this country and too much mess to clean up for someone to come in needing on the job training. We must keep what matters most in perspective during this election no matter who we vote for. We need strong, sound leadership!!!!
Posted by: kerry | August 30, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
From RAPCHAT’s comments:
“Clarence Thomas, Harriet Meirs, and Sarah Palin. The Republicans do this over and over. Pick a token candidate ad dare the opposition to complain.”
A great example of the liberal mindset. If the Republicans select a bright, successful individual into a powerful position and they happen to be a minority or female then it’s pandering. If the liberals do it, it’s groundbreaking. Your hypocrisy never ceases to amaze!
Obama who? Name one important decision he made as governor of Illinois. Which town was he mayor of? What company did he run? What critical decisions did he make impacting employees’ lives? The answer to all of the above is NONE! And yet all of you liberals absolutely believe he is read to lead this nation.
As far as being “just a governor”… she led a state that is critical to this nation’s security (militarily and economically) due to proximity to Russia, China, and the Pacific Rim. She is the commander-in-chief of her state’s Army and Air National Guard and is briefed routinelty on national and state security issues. She meets regularly with active duty leadership based in her state. She is far more ready than people think.
What exposure to the military does Obama have? Oh yeah, he visited the troops for a week.
Posted by: wdj | August 30, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
It seems irresponsible to me that McCain would put us in a position where we could suddenly have as our president a woman who 2 years ago was a small-town mayor.
She seems like a fine, interesting, woman, but not PRESIDENT material. The VP choice should always be someone who would be capable of taking over the #1 job.
I don’t think McCain (a man in his early 70s who has had bouts of cancer) is putting the needs of our country first, with this choice.
Posted by: Chris P | August 30, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
I would like to add one more comment or question. Anyone remember Ann Richards from Texas? How come she was never considered as a candidate for the office of The Presidency. She was tough, on the money….took no lip, did not fear the enemy. If a female was to be President, she would fit the bill to a “T” (for at the TOP)
What do you think ???
Posted by: Tony Silvain | August 30, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
McCain has changed the landscape of this election. Up until now, he was the ‘bad boy” for trying to prevent us from making history by electing the first african american as President.
Well, way to go McCain! Sarah Palin boasts a 80% approval rating – (somethiing ANY politician dreams of achieving) stands up to Congress, Repulicans, Democrats & the good ole boys to boot. She has her feet and ideals firmly planted on the ground and understands the reality of my kitchen table.
Heck, in addition to her effective governing of Alaska – not an easy place to live; Sarah Palin impresses me with her accomplishments in real life – successfully raising a large family while maintaining a strong marriage (not just a business partnership as the Clintons have offered.
It is appropriate for the Obama/Biden/Clinton train to recognize her in a positive way and then off with the boxing gloves for the debates.
I have a feeling Sarah can more then stand up and defend her record and choices in life with out help from anyone.
Posted by: carol | August 30, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
“And yes, I am PO’d that B.O. did not pick her as his running mate!!! Then had the nerve to ask her for her support!”
Posted by: Belle Starr | August 30, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Funny how all these obamabots spewed their hate and venom at Hillary but now they want her to help their weak candidate and his weaker still, VP!
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary 2012!!!!
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | August 30, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Gov. Palin came back to work three days after delivering a child. Obama has missed roll call 93% in the U S Senate.
PUMA is correct!
Posted by: Sylvia B. | August 30, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
I agree Jake – her failure, once again, to point out the differences between Palin and herself leave people scratching their heads and wondering what she is up to. Palin is anti choice, anti equal rights, anti environment, pro creationism, and pro oil. If Hillary Clinton does not agree with these stances, she should be very clear about that – isn’t it sexism for her to only acknowledge the fact that Palin could break the ultimate glass ceiling? Is that the only thing this VP nominee represents to Clinton? Sad, sad, sad.
Posted by: YakRob | August 30, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
chris in denver
McCain didn’t pick any of the more qualified women
because he doesn’t like what he deems as unattractive women.
sorry but can you find another reason…
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
It’s amazing how many brainwashed Obama supporters their really are. Palin’s time as mayor and governor alone give her much more experience then Obama in running things. I think they’re still trying to find a single thing that Obama has accomplished during his time in the senate. Obama’s only talking point is that he was against going to war in Iraq. I’m sorry I would rather have Palin as VP over a president who has friendships and ties with terrorists, crooked businessmen, and a America hating church.
Posted by: Eddie | August 30, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
tony,
You men have no idea what a mother duties are becasue you men are mostly part-time help. Being a mother is a full-time. I am a mother and you can not raise a big family and take on one of the most important job in the USA without one of them being neglected. Either it will be the USA or her kids bottom line!
Posted by: gl | August 30, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Palin has more experience and leadership than Obama. I hear one more crack in the ceiling.
Posted by: martha
Here’s some perspective for you Martha!
Palin won Govenor of Alaska with just 115,000 votes. Now, 80,000 people packed Invesco Field to here Obama’s acceptance speech on Thursday night. Want more? Alaska is 1/4, that’s right one quarter the size of Brooklyn NY.
Finally, Obama is a Harvard Grad and Legal Scholar and Palin is a former beauty queen who majored in journalism? She wanted to be a sports reporter for ESPN until she was told she’d have to move to Briston Connecticut.
Posted by: roxanne | August 30, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency? Now that’s a scary prospect for someone running on the same ticket as 72-year-old John McCain.
Posted by: Mark | August 30, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
A no foreign experience President or a no experience Vice President. Lets have a frank talk about experience then!
Posted by: Grandmaof6 | August 30, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
the DNC could of – and should of picked Hillary Clinton – SHE is qualified – obama is NOT. Now the Dems will lose – again.
McCain is a much better/safer choice to lead our country.
Posted by: Molly | August 30, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Palin is over-reaching. Her ego is much higher than her abilities. We already have ego rather than substance in the White House. The very fact she accepted the VP position should scare this nation. People who don’t realize when they are totally out of their league are truly dangerous if asked to perform.
Posted by: M2 | August 30, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Democratic ticket: 40 years of national experience
Republican ticket: 26 years.
For those of you who think that experience is so important, the choice is clear. And for those of you who argue that Obama is at the top of the ticket, whereas Palin is at the bottom, Obama without Biden would be weak…but, Palin without McCain would be disastrous!
Posted by: Rick | August 30, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Listen everyone this is a great pick. We and the politicians know that new younger age and new generation have to step in somewhere along the line in Washington. First you have (inexperience) Obama and now you have (tough) Palin lets get over ourselves and let these 2 youngster ride themselves out that’s the only way we can change Washington, that’s the only way you can bring in new generation to Washington. The best thing is both of these youngster is being stood behind by 2 longtime politician, what mistake can they make? except when 3am hits and the phone rings and Obama have to answer “oh….uh…can you hold on let me get Biden on the phone”.
Posted by: vegas | August 30, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
“Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency? Now that’s a scary prospect for someone running on the same ticket as 72-year-old John McCain.”
Obama as President is a scary prospect for all America.
Posted by: Mack | August 30, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
obama get out from behind hillary’s pantsuit.
send out your attack dog mr self-proclaimed ‘i’m a zionist’ biden.
Posted by: sonia trevino | August 30, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
I cannot believe some of these posts…
Has she ever been off the continent?
(Anyone who watched yesterday’s media coverage after her selection was announced must have noticed all of the video footage of her in camoflauge visiting the Alaskan National Guard troops in Iraq…..Obama had to be shamed into traveling there)
Either she will neglect her duties to her children or fall short of her duties as Vice-President
(OMG……does a MAN fall short of HIS duties to his children when he serves as either Vice-President or President??)
I do like the post that comments as to Palin being able to serve as Governor while pregnant.
(Yes, and she was back at work as Governor three days after giving birth. Obama needed a week’s vacation in Hawaii just to build up enough strength to deliver a so-so speech in front of a Greek temple…..)
Posted by: Lee | August 30, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Why are Obama supporters now so hysterical about Palin’s ‘experience’. Wasn’t the message that it was not Obama’s experience that mattered but his judgement and dedication to ‘change’? Well, I’ll take a tough reformer like Sarah Palin who is not afriad to bring her own party to task over a highly political opportunist like Obama any day.
Posted by: mpCT | August 30, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
“Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency? Now that’s a scary prospect for someone running on the same ticket as 72-year-old John McCain.”
Obama as President is a scary prospect for all America.
Posted by: Mack
I guess he’s not scary enough since he’s up 48 to 41 over the geezer in the daily gallup polls!
Posted by: roxanne | August 30, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
“Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency?”
Posted by: Belle Starr | August 30, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
WHy do people mock higher education? I think intelligence and education are important. A bachelor’s degree from University of Idaho is not equal to Columbia and Harvard Law, then Harvard Law Review.
Don’t we want the smartest guy/gal? Aren’t we sick of a President that is not the smartest guy in the room?
The experience argument is plausible, but don’t we want our kids to work hard and get the best education the country has to offer?
Aren’t the issues too important to have the decision maker be the one with the superior intellect.
He writes his own books and his own speeches. He is not an actor reading lines.
Posted by: MikeNJ | August 30, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
McCain made a quick and rash decision. You call that good judgement? The way I see it, he is fascinated with beauty queens and fell in political love at first sight with this woman. As a woman myself, and a Hillary supporter, there is no substance in this political marriage. Furthermore it insults my intelligence to think that as a Hillary supporter I would run to this “In-McSain” ticket. No way, no how, NO MCCAIN!
Posted by: A M | August 30, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
The DISASTER of Palin is magnified when you watch Bay Buchanan become absolutely hysterical and combative defending this choice.
Poor old Bay hasn’t an iota of acting chops, when she’s hysterical, it’s written all over her face. Mary Matalin or Tony Perkins can spin on air, but not Bay…bless her heart.
Posted by: mark | August 30, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
I wanted Hillary to be the first female president. And that still might happen one day.
But if something happen to McCain and Palin becomes president I would trust her judgement way more than Obama’s.
And as Obama says–it’s not about experience it’s about judgement.
Until someone proves Palin has a nutty anti-American pastor and terrorist friends I’ll trust her more any day.
Posted by: cindy in nc | August 30, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
The democrats are crying in their soup. The GOP VP is more qualified and knowledgeable than OBAMA NATION.
John is the MAN!!!
President McCain, you have earned my respect and vote in November !!!
Posted by: Vera | August 30, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Why are Obama supporters now so hysterical about Palin’s ‘experience’.
Posted by: mpCT | Aug 30, 2008 1:10:23
PM
Probably because when she was asked about Iraq she actually said that she hadn’t given it much thought. Considering that her son is now heading there really makes her sound like a complete idiot! I think what’s really odd is that McClown only met her once!
What this says about this pick is that his Country First line is just that! It smacks of desperation. Why didn’t he pick Condi Rice? At least she would be able to actually speak about foreign policy. Joe Biden will eat her lunch!
Posted by: roxanne | August 30, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Anybody that thinks this Palin pick is a good pick, needs to have his or her head examined.
Posted by: Kevin | August 30, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Clinton should stay out. How many times should she bail out Obama. Stop asking it from her! Clinton has done her bit, now McCain reaps the seeds Obama and Dems gave him by being an old boy’s network. Palin might be just what the doctor ordered to the McCharacter campaign.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | August 30, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Dear GL,
Today, only 5% of American families are the traditional “nuclear” one where you have a husband that works and a wife that stays home and takes care of the kids.
Like her politics or not, her balancing of career and family represents 95% of women with children today.
Welcome to the 21st century!
Posted by: Amy T | August 30, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
wdj…tkanks for the info…I wasn’t sure until I read you perspective! I always have to laugh when the pot calls the kettle….well… “inexperienced” in this case! You are right about the liberal mindset…especially issues regarding race and sex! They claim to be champions on these issues and yet their true colors are not hard to see!
Posted by: Ed | August 30, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
gl – being a PARENT is a full-time job. You are a sexist woman who apparently wants to imprison women. She, like men, can be a professional and parent at the same time. Obama has clearly sacrificed time with his two young girls to run for office. Why isn’t that a problem? Because he’s a man, I guess…Parenting is “woman’s work.” Running for president is “men’s work.” Great. This is what “change” looks like.
Posted by: tony | August 30, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
“He is not an actor reading lines.”
He’s not a Presidential candidate he just plays one on CNN and MSNBC.
Posted by: Mack | August 30, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
“Anybody that thinks this Palin pick is a good pick, needs to have his or her head examined.”
Anybody that thinks that the stolen primary is going to translate into victory in the general needs to start taking their meds now.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
O-M-G
FOX NEWS is attempting to act as if there are NO COMMENTS about how Palin was vetted. They did this after McCain’s houses gaffe too. This shows WHAT a DISASTER they fear this choice is. The houses story had over 5000 posts at Huff Po, and yesterday Palin had 9000 posts.
The level of denial at FOX is breath taking…really FOX no republican commented on Palin..REALLY?
Posted by: mark | August 30, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
I cannot believe how the Democrats are attacking Sarah Palin. Oh wait a minute, yes I can because when your own top of the ticket is a corrupt empty suit and the bottom of your ticket is a 36-year Washington insider, what else could you possibly have to say?
McCain has a proven record of being a maverick; Palin has a proven career of being a maverick. I believe both of them are the true CHANGE ticket that will clear out “politics as usual” in Washington.
McCain/Palin ’08 – Yes We WILL!
Posted by: marylou | August 30, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Most neutral observers are scratching their heads over this pick. McCain’s strongest argument against Obama, and one he’s used over and over, is that Obama doesn’t have the experience to be President. How can his first major personnel choice be someone with demonstrably less experience than Obama (6 years as mayor of a village with 5400 people and 21 months as governor vs. 8 years in the Illinois state senate and 3 1/2 years in the U.S. Senate)? Doesn’t that undermine his whole campaign? With so many solid choices available like governors Romney, Pawlenty, Sanford, and Ridge, why a total unknown who is being investigated by her own (Republican-controlled) legislature for possible ethical violations? What is McCain thinking? That women will vote for McCain, simply because there is a woman on his ticket? Nope. Hillary supporters are already lambasting the choice as insulting.
Posted by: Scott - Fort Worth | August 30, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Haha! What confidence. We’ve known this woman, what, all of one or two days and we all of a sudden feel she can run the entire country just because she ran a small town with a palm full of people? I’ll give it to her that she may be an intelligent and talented multi-tasker, but so-called “long time Democrats” are so eager to run to the voting booth based on the fact that she’s a Hillary replacement. Absurd! From the little we know about her she’s just another “good ole boy” but in a skirt. Before casting Obama/Biden off because your feelings were hurt, at least wait for Palin to prove herself to us like she did to Alaska. She darn well can’t do it in just a day.
Posted by: Anne | August 30, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
When will Obama stand on his own two feet like a man? Apparently never, as he still expects Hillary to fight his battles for him and Papa Joe to hold his hand on foreign affairs. What a wimp!
Posted by: marylou | August 30, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Hillary’s released statement to Palin was very appropriate. Palin doesn’t just pale in comparison to Hillary, she cannot and will not capture the women who followed and supported Hillary. Come on, we are talking about a dynamic US Senator, a woman is without a doubt has a resume that looks like a manuscript. Palin is a Hockey Mom, Pta member, which I have have on my resume, Mayor of a very small town and Governor for 18 months for a State that only carries 3 electoral votes..
Posted by: Sharonkathleen | August 30, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
dfugate – what has biden changed? he’s been around DC longer than McCain.
PS: what did Obama change in Chicago and in Illinois?
Posted by: tony | August 30, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
not only did obama and the democrats throw hillary under the bus, they also threw Presidnet CARTER who was denied a podium-Why? because of his book, and positions on palestine. in reality israel and Aipac control the democrat party.
when asked mr. sweetness CARTER said ah gosh i didn’t want to speak, yeah right. still loyal to the democrats/
Posted by: sonia trevino | August 30, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
At least she’s really hot.
Posted by: Larry David | August 30, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Sarah Palin should stay home with her children. A special needs child needs his mother. I cannot believe that she cares no more for that child than to run all over the United States and have no concern for his well being. Fruther she can say she doesn’t believe in abortion because of her moral beliefs but it doesn’t look like it matters to her because she doesn’t have to look after that child day in and day out like most mothers.
Vote Obama-Biden.
Posted by: Mills | August 30, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
And yes, I am PO’d that B.O. did not pick her as his running mate!!! Then had the nerve to ask her for her support!
Posted by: SBern
But Obama foot some of her $ 11 million bill ?
(Thats the monetary bill, not her husband) Obama
even asked his supporters to give to her campaign
fund to bring down this debt, which we did. How
about getting all of those 18 million supporters
to give a couple bucks each to help her instead of
the rhetoric that has been said.
FYI, Biden is 65 YO, and there is a good possibility
that Obama would pick Hillary in 2012 because
Biden would be too old for 2016 elections. Think
about it at 73 YO being a president? Only a party
not thinking of its future would do that.
Posted by: spacerook1 | August 30, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
John- First of all, she is not a girl. She is a grown woman. I still say that McCain is brilliant on this one. Did we want a woman in the White House? Well, yes, but we wanted Hillary. So, to punish us he will have the first opportunity to put a woman other than the first lady in the White House. It’s a brilliant game move. If we allow Obama to win, we won’t be able to get Hillary in office until 2016! We MUST Hillraisers get her into the White House before 2016. It has turned into such game at this point. So, my chess move is to vote McCain/ Palin for 2008 and Hillary Clinton- 2012!!!
Posted by: sbern | August 30, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Palin got it right when she said McCain was the only candidate that actually fought for his country.
I don’t care if I see pictures of McCain’s POW experience everyday.
That picture of McCain limping off the plane is powerful. Far better than the image of Obama’s pastor cursing America.
McCain/Palin08
Posted by: riley | August 30, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
“However, Palin likely knows, as McCain does, where Canada is, and likely knows who really supplies the majority of the energy to the good ole US of A.’
And is our largest trading partner along with the UK. but the zerO followers think it’s China.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Obama – affirmative action education, failed numerous entry tests for college
Palin – scholarship 3.79 GPA
McCain/Palin = Winners in ’08
Posted by: Susie in FL. | August 30, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
If Palin was such a bad pick, why is no one talking about Obama and his “brilliant” speech anymore? There was far more talk about Hillary and Bill. Palin knocked Obama offstage….
Posted by: tony | August 30, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Anyone one who once said they would vote for Clinton and switch to Palin.
The only argument they truly have for voting for her is that she is a women…
I’m a woman and I see right through it.
The difference is that I am not a dumb woman voting for a woman just because she is a woman. No wonder some men think we are dumb. Mcsame is playing on your intellegence. Your vote would be a vote on gender not intellegence.
Wake up!!!
Posted by: cekerri | August 30, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
How about this scenario. McCain wins,serves one term. Sarah runs against Hillary and wins.
Posted by: md | August 30, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
hoax
Palin was only launched as a HOAX, McCain will have a big belly laugh at his BIRTHDAY prank,the first day at the convention he’ll name his real VP.
We will laugh along in sheer relief, when Romney is announced. McCain you SLY old rascal.
Come on, no one really thought John was going to turn over control of America to “Ann Coulter of the KLONDIKE.”
Posted by: mark | August 30, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Pam to most of America Obama has proven during this primary…his abilities for longer than Palin was even governor!
She doesn’t believe evolution should be taught in schools
she doesn’t believe man has any effect on global warming (how in the heck is someone going to renegotiate with china and india’s explosion of carbon if you don’t believe in it’s effects…ugh)
she hasn’t paid attention to iraq?
she has no experience with the constitution.
she has no experience or knowledge…education etc…with the law…outside of 20 months being gov.
she has not experience with foreign cultures.
she has no experience or knowledge of trade agreements
she puts her religious beliefs ahead of science…or at minimum ignores science if they don’t fit with her religious beliefs.
she say she is a reformer…but like all newbie politicians she comes in that way and is already being investigated.
this is THE WORST possible person that could be second in line for the Presidency we have ever seen in history.
Period.
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
If Obama/Biden feel they have to go easy on Palen for fear of appearing chauvinistic, Obama is to blame, not Hillary Clinton. It seems no matter what happens in this election, Hillary will be the scapegoat for anything that goes wrong.
Posted by: Vicki | August 30, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
“He’s not a Presidential candidate he just plays one on CNN and MSNBC.”
Thanks Mack… can i use this line too? Hahahahaha…. that is perfect for this empty suit obama… straight out of the dnc’s and the 4th estate’s central casting.
Posted by: cpc | August 30, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Spacerook,
Do you honestly think that he will pick Hillary in 2012? Come on! He had the perfect opportunity to pick her in 2008. I am not willing to sit at his mercy to pick her. Plus, we want her as President and not the VP.
Posted by: sbern | August 30, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
The Dems will attack Palin to try to hide the fact that Obama has no business running for President of the United States. I cannot wait until the debates where he’s pressed hard regarding his relationship with his church, his friendship with William Ayers, and his business dealings with Rezko. Yeah Obama your judgement is superb.
Posted by: Eddie | August 30, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
can you all see McCain’s face when they tell him she was interviewed right after he announced her and she said
“I haven’t really been focused on Iraq”
and that she is telling people that globakl warming has nothing to do with us.
Just imagine McCain’s face at the lobbyist advisers who vetted her.
Tell me yopu all can’t see that face…lol Red? and grimmaced?
Laser beams coming out of his eyes…lol.
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
look folks john mccain was passed over for bush –what does that really say? he is a fine man and probably means well , but his record tells me much more than i need to make a decision for commander in chief.this palin decision will not cement the presidency on him. she already seems to carry baggage of investigations with her.although i probably would stick up for my sister too.just more of the same ole politic to contend with. help us Jesus
Posted by: dfugate | August 30, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
I don’t see how it’s Hillary’s place to slam Palin. Hillary did her part at the convention now it’s time for Obama to try to bring it home. See this was my problem with Obama all along. He stole everything from Hillary’s policies, he stole her ideas, anything he could because he had no clue except hope and change. I can’t wait to see Obama lose in November now for not picking Hillary. We have a female on a ticket now and we are going to vote for McCain/Palin now! Let’s shatter that glass ceiling once and for all women!!!
McCain/Palin 08′
Posted by: Dee-GA | August 30, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Obama and Biden have to fight their own battles. It’s cowardly to ask Hillary to attack Palin. She doesn’t owe Obama anything beyond token support.
Palin is a brilliant choice by McCain. All American mothers can identify with her. Yeah, she’s light on experience. However, she’s #2 on the ticket, not the top one. Besides, I’ll take her executive experience any day over Obama. He started running for president as soon as he got in the U.S. Senate. What accomplishments can he (truthfully) claim? Palin has solid achievements under her belt.
Posted by: Juju | August 30, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
I have been dumbfounded by this decision of John McCain, not for his pandering to women – that was obvious – not for her extremely right views, I expected that of his vice presidential pick- but her complete lack of experience – no matter how you try and spin this she is unprepared for this job. So why would he pick someone like this? A previous post has brought out the tie between Alaska and the oil companies and believe me if she wants to drill in ANWAR the oil companies LOVE her. And, she is a regular of right radio talk shows like Rush Limbaugh, so we have oil companies and the extreme right. And John McCain tried to throw in those that have or had ovaries and thought he covered all the bases. I believe John McCain owes a big debt to someone close to Oil; that would explain all the Rove clones on his campaign staff. The Rove clones are watching his campaign carefully to make sure it runs the way the Oil companies want it to run. Why Palin? McCain cannot pull in the kind of money Obama can so they had to get the religious right to start writing checks, before Aug, 31st if your on his mailing list you got the email. There are many more qualified Republicans with the same ideals as Palin and some even have or had ovaries but he needed that religious money and he did it with Palin. So the conclusion – McCain owes a big debt to someone associated with Oil (maybe the Bushses, read Confessions of an Economic Hit Man pgs 190 – 195; My Energy Company, Enron, and George W. Bush). He is willing to throw the American citizen under the bus because his debt is so high. God Save us All.
Posted by: Bev | August 30, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Palin: real, honest and she cares. God Bless America and she is proud of her country !!! Impressive !!!
Obama: associated with racist, anti-american church for 20 years. I am just now proud of my country Disgusting !!!
McCain/Palin in ’08, Palin in ’12
Posted by: Sherry | August 30, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
I can’t believe the sexist attacks this lady is being hit with 24 hrs into her VP-run.
And of course the Obama people is playing the age-card without any apologies whatsoever, even though Obama himself said he wouldn’t early in the campaign. A “heartbeat” from the presidency, what is that if not attacking McCharacters’ age?
This woman is dangerous for Obama, not for being female – but it makes you think on the Clinton onslaughter, of course. Not for being inexperienced, although she match Obama on being a bit light. Palin should worry Obama because she’s clean. Fighting corruption without compromise, she hasn’t sold out like Obama has to get the biggest campaign wallet in history. If Obama used the same rules on hiring as McCain, he would have to fire the campaign head, Mr. Axelrod. Obama plans to travel the country and raise money, selling policy to the worst of people, when McCain – Palin do churches and campaign stops. Not having to worry about with public finances.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | August 30, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
So WHY are we ENCOURAGING the politicians to get NASTY already?? C’mon now… they don’t need any encouragement. If Clinton managed to be gracious about yesterday’s announcement, then God bless her. I’m beginning to admire Hillary for being decent. She’s setting a good example. Don’t underestimate the power of being NICE.
Posted by: Annie | August 30, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Perfect example of how Neo-Cons view women; “We’ve got the babe” Rush Limbaugh.
Posted by: dan | August 30, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
profm2
Dan Qauyle actually makes a much better President than a woman who says human’s global warming is a fallacy… and thinks evolution should not be taught in schools and when asked about IRAQ for chrissake answers…”I haven’t really focused much on the war in Iraq”
ugh.
If you think Quayle was bad…she makes Quayle look like FDR.
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
dl, you took the words right out of my mouth.
And as far as Hillary supporters are concerned, they will vote for Obama, because they want Hillary to be Sec. of Defense or on the Supreme Court.
Which I’m sure Obama can make happen for her.
Posted by: Scott - Fort Worth | August 30, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
of course Hillary won’t attack Palin — she wants Obama to lose so she can run again in 2012
Posted by: Vicki | August 30, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
A woman in high office in my life time? Who’d have believed it! She seems to be a successful governor of Alaska and they seem to love her. She seems like a real honest down to earth person to me. Now she is going to be learning foreign policy from the experience she gains from McCain. I was going to stay home this election but no longer. P.S. My neocon husband loves and respects me.
Posted by: Grandmaof6 | August 30, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Mccain may have gained enthusiasm on the right with this woman…
but he lost votes.
People actually care about knowledge.
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
“complete lack of experience”….sounds like Obama to me! McCain has outdone the Bobsy twins and they are crying, again! Poor Obama…guess you can’t buy the White House even with all that welfare money!
Posted by: Ed | August 30, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
The only reason she was nominated was because she’s a woman. Nothing wrong with that, of course, because gender (and race and age) are legitimate issues in this election. But if THAT’S the most senior female candidate that the Republicans can come up with for VP, then the Republican party simply doesn’t deserve the female vote.
Posted by: michael | August 30, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
“Palin called Hillary a whiner and you don’t think Hillary should slam her?”
Correction, zerO and his band of retrogressive liberals called Hillary a whiner, so why should she go to bat for him (besides that fact that come Nov. he’ll history).
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
As I have said all along. McCaine is an incompetent hothead. He has accomplished nothing on his outstanding abilities. His heroics comes due to his incompetence as a navy pilot and his hotheaded behaviour. Now that he would have decisions to make that would demonstrate his insight judgement and executive abilities he is showing the world how dangerous incompetent he is. God forbid he is elected, who will he put in Defence or Sec. of State or education and Homeland security.
I shutter to think what this renegade incompetent man who has ridden his family and wife’s wealth to the threshold of the presidency would do with the world most powerful military, economy and nuclear weapons.
Posted by: mal | August 30, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
“If Palin was such a bad pick, why is no one talking about Obama and his “brilliant” speech anymore?”
Posted by: Belle Starr | August 30, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
sonia trvino — i believe mr biden has helped to create the respect around the world that the usa used to enjoy before gwb got there.he is a well respected man of his word around the world not just in the republican circles that have of recent become the only place this administration deems respect necessary. im sorry sonia this time we the people shall not be hoodwinked by the good ole boy network.
Posted by: dfugate | August 30, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
“THAT’S the most senior female candidate that the Republicans can come up with for VP, then the Republican party simply doesn’t deserve the female vote.”
But I guess it is Ok for the dems. to have a neophyte at the top of the ticket. Retrogressive double standard libs.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
What about WHAT scandal? Oh…you mean the political hatchet job being launched against Palin as payback for her taking down the corrupt good ole boy party in Alaska?
Won’t amount to squat. The commissioner himself said that Palin never asked him to fire her BIL the state trooper. But ya know…a state trooper who gets drunk on duty, threatens his exwife and tasers an 11 year old boy OUGHT to have his ass kicked to the curb. So either way…I say, “Good on ya, Sarah!”
Posted by: Baggem | August 30, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
McCain gave us the “CHANGE” AND “HOPE” that Obama has been talking about. Obama talks the talk but McCain delivers.
Posted by: john===========Amen! Let’s shatter that glass ceiling this November women!! McCain/Palin 08′
Posted by: Dee-GA | August 30, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Hillary urged her supporters to support Obama. It’s not her job to convert them, that is his job now.
It’s not her job to knock Sarah Palin. She should be able to congratulate another woman for being a selected to be part of an incredibly small group of women who have ever been nominated to be part of a presidential ticket without being tagged as “disloyal.”
She has been very loyal in supporting Obama, she is not required to play the part of pit bull too. Let Biden play that role.
Posted by: annetta | August 30, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
of course Hillary won’t attack Palin — she wants Obama to lose so she can run again in 2012
Posted by: Vicki | Aug 30, 2008 1:30:26 PM
*********
You realize that HRC would be running agaisnt Palin, right??? And the the RNC loves nothing more than a good old Clinton bashing. They will put up Saint Sarah agaisnt HRC and it will be a blood bath. Please use your head this election cycle.
Posted by: Jeanne from Michigan | August 30, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
John McCain was told to take Palin. McCain did not make the decision. He didn’t even know this woman. Everyone knows McCain wanted Lieberman. I’m done with puppet Presidents that do not control their own administrations.
Posted by: dan | August 30, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
I’ve been researching Sen. Obama’s U.S. Senate record and I’ve only found two resolutions that he has sponsored (not co-sponsored)that have passed. S.CON.RES.46- A current resolution supporting the goals and ideas of sickle cell disease awareness. S.RES.133- A resolution celebrating the life of Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson. Anyone else find anything more than this?
Posted by: buckaroobonsai | August 30, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Barack Obama’s audience for his acceptance speech likely topped 40 million people, and the Democratic gathering that nominated him was a more popular television event than any other political convention in history.
More people watched Obama speak on Thursday than watched the Olympics opening ceremony in Beijing, the final “American Idol” or the Academy Awards this year, according to Nielsen Media Research. In contrast, four playoff football games, including the Super Bowl between the Giants and Patriots, were seen by more than 40 million people.
Posted by: Scott - Fort Worth | August 30, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
belle starr
“and four score and seven years ago”…
wasn’t as good as one of your comments …
can we stay with some reality…i know it’s hard … but it was a brilliant speech…
given for Obama…it may only be in his top 5 of brilliant speeches…
he is a really smart man I agree.
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Mrs. Clinton is a decent person. She cannot and will not be harsh towards Palin. Some of the Obama supporters (if some of them could be paid bloggers) have to have their heads examined for lacking decency and being rude to the supporters of Hillary and John McCain. Please refrain from personal attacks and debate issues.
Posted by: Kris | August 30, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Obama made a big error, plain and simple, in not picking Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate. He better hope his ego does not get the best of him. If he has to depend on Hillary’s support to get into the White House what does that say about him and who he should have picked for Vice President.
Posted by: Richard Natoli-Rombach | August 30, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
“The only reason she was nominated was because she’s a woman. Nothing wrong with that, of course, because gender (and race and age) are legitimate issues in this election. But if THAT’S the most senior female candidate that the Republicans can come up with for VP, then the Republican party simply doesn’t deserve the female vote.”
She represents real change. Imagine that. Not just talk but actually walking the walk.
Posted by: Mack | August 30, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
I see the Republ is getting scare again and starting to lie that they were for Hilliary and now for McShame. A true Hilliary supporter will never for MShame. So please hang it up and is over for the Republ. Enjoy the moment becasue it will be short lived.
Obama/Biden 2008!
Posted by: gl | August 30, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
By the way, Governor Palin is no more a “girl”, than Senator Obama is a “boy”.
Posted by: Baggem | August 30, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Isn’t it time for Obama to campaign for himself, instead of trying to continue to pin the blame for all his ills on Hillary? Hillary attacked Obama on his lack of experience. The electorate obviously felt that that did not matter. Hillary’s not going to go after Palin on the same matter at this point is she? That would be doing Obama a disservice.
Fact is, the Republican Party has now symbolically shown respect for women in a form that does not exist in the Democratic Party. The only woman to ever run for VP (Ferraro) was totally castigated by the party this time out.
By the way, brilliant move McCain. I’m still voting Democrat, but brilliant move. However, I expect many of Hillary’s followers will solidify behind McCain because of the respect issue.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | August 30, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
I feel kind of bad for McCain.
Stuck not being allowed from the right wing to make his own decisions.
and that’s the truth and everyone knows it.
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
JT You just expose the Obama’s weakness. More and More you bring Hillary to picture more the Obama become less important. If you really want to help Obama keep Hillary away from your discussion.
Posted by: Tim | August 30, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Hey, everyone here who are blind: All presidential candidates choose their VP for political reasons, it’s even worse in Obama’s case since his pick reversed his “change” and “hope”message (though I still have no clue what they are but that’s not important now). So you people think before you whine here that McCain’s VP choice is political while Obama’s isn’t? Just how sad there are so many dumb naive Obama supporters in this country.
Posted by: tiger | August 30, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
CHANGE. Pronouncing “Change” 49 different ways does not mean it is going to happen or what is will look like. Have people forgotten how to ask tough questions?
Gov. Palin’s critics fail to note that she has actually introduced real reforms and taken on her own political party, at the risk of her career. Barack Obama’s Chicago, on the other hand, has been a nationally recognized symbol of corrupt, heavy-handed politics for DECADES. As a resident, I have heard plenty about the scandals of corrupt Democratic and Republican governors, but Barack Obama was not the one bringing them down nor did he ever challenge any of corrupt members of the local executive branches by running against them in an election.
I have never heard even a peep about Obama taking on the corruption within his own Democratic Party in Chicago or in Illinois state politics – he seems to have mostly side-stepped it on his way to the top.
If Barack really were Theodore Roosevelt, he would by now have plenty of evidence to support it.
One can surely be forgiven for asking aloud whether Barack’s inability to reform Chicago sheds any light on his ability to reform Washington.
Compared with Joe Biden, Sarah Palin sounds much more like deep change, rather than just changing political ideology. Sen. Biden, well, Barack’s assertion that he has been reforming the Senate for the past thirty years rings very hollow indeed.
Wait a minute – wasn’t this supposed to be a contest between McCain and Obama?
Posted by: ChicagoPalin | August 30, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
“And the the RNC loves nothing more than a good old Clinton bashing.”
And please tell me what the retrogressive liberal left did during the primary to the Clintons? Fear the right to bash Hillary, not one bit, we have our own camp to deal with first.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
“given for Obama…it may only be in his top 5 of brilliant speeches…”
Thing is that we need more than speeches. Do you get it?
Posted by: Mack | August 30, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
westcoast messenger
I agree it would be a brilliant move if you could stop it at the announcement.
In the end her sheer overwhelming lack of knowledge and subsequent ability to judge the situations that face a country…
will make this a stupendous blunder…obviously.
It’s not position you can just pick a woman for as the criterion…and then pick a woman who is overwhelmingly small compared to other women he could have chosen.
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Jake – If you call Hillary’s statement a “Rah Rah”, you obviously were never a cheerleader. I do think that what Hillary is trying to point out is that the four top spots will no longer speak as one from a male perspective.
You know, the worker bees of the Democratic Party, for decades, have been women. And only once has one of them been deemed “good enough” to be at the top. But such has been the experience of so many women in their educations and careers. So hopefully this will help you understand why we were, and still are, mad as hell.
I’m a Democrat and will vote for our candidate. But deep down inside me, I would love for the result in November to show the Democratic Party leadership that, because of the decisions THEY made, their ticket is ultimately unelectable.
Posted by: FactChecker1 | August 30, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
americans have spent a year and a half seeing Obama talking to leaders answering thousands of detailed questions on ALL of the issues facing us…whether you agree with him or not he obviously has shown over the past 5 years …he understands the things we face in detail.
Palin has no idea.
Posted by: dl | August 30, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
“John McCain was told to take Palin. McCain did not make the decision… I’m done with puppet Presidents that do not control their own administrations. ” – Hey there, how do you know this is what happened? Sounds like you must be an insider of McCain camp? Nope, I don’t think so. Please do not make up stories like this. If you do, just go away.
Posted by: tiger | August 30, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
“Obama is a Harvard Grad and Legal Scholar”….Ah yes, with no record of writings, reseach or publications in his field. The only publication Obana has are books about himself!!!
Posted by: eviee | August 30, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Hillary can afford to be gracious and silent. All she has to do is be patient. A woman with this kind of giant ego and the disposition of a barracuda will quickly demonstrate her incompetence to be president of the greatest nation in the world. The Democrats can take the high road. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
When it comes right down to it, I think Americans will not put a combination like this as our Executive branch of govt. Many people are VERY concerned that she is currently under indictment for abuse of power. We’ve already had eight years of that from our current VP
Posted by: M2 | August 30, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
I’m sure he would have taken Condi Rice but Rice wouldn’t work with McCain. She knows his reputation as a person with no respect for women. Too bad because if Hillary doesn’t make the first woman President and it had to be a Republican Condoleezza Rice has earned it. McCain was told to take the beauty queen from Alaska.
Posted by: dan | August 30, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
It’s truly amazing. People referring to Palin’s inexperience. Obama has exactly NONE and he’s at the top of the ticket. Palin may be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, but Obama WILL be the president if elected. How does “community organizer” become a platform for qualification. Oh right, he’s a senator. But wait, what has he done as a senator? Nothing. He states McCain has voted with Buish 90% of time BUT he has the most LIBERAL voting record in the senate with Biden being 3rd. Where exactly is his ability to unite people and cross party lines evident in his past? Palin at least has experience running SOMETHING. Running a city or a State is multiple times more difficult than simply casting a vote on bills that others authored. Obama has NO experience and he’s on the top of the ticket. Face it, criticizing Palin is like throwing a boomerang.
Posted by: Dismayed | August 30, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
My theory — The selection of Palin was simply a cynical attempt to steer the news cycle away from the Dem Convention (which was going far too well for comfort). The Reps have no intention of keeping her as their VP. During the convention (which they will probably postpone conveniently due to hurricane, which allows Palin to generate another week of buzz), she will regretfully decline the nomination after due consideration because the demands of campaigning would be too great a conflict with the needs of her infant with Down Syndrome. Plus she will probably mention her commitment to continuing rooting out corruption in the State of Alaska. This will leave her smelling like a rose, and the Reps able to trot her out again if need be. It will also, of course, cause another blip in the news cycle and give an unwarranted bump to whatever safe and lackluster pick they decide to go with.
Posted by: CitizenB | August 30, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
DL. Respect to you and all points considered. However, do you really believe Obama when he dreams that he can negotiate with Iran? I’d like to see the movie reel.
My comment is purely rhetorical of course.
It’s fine to talk about how Obama can spin an academic essay when discussing world politics, but backing up your opinions with actions is a far greater test when one’s feet are being held to the fire. And that will be the fun part to observe if he gets elected.
Posted by: Pam | August 30, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Beauty queen journalist small town mayor and Govenor of snow and ice Alaska, now thats a far fetched qualification to be seconds away from the Presidency and the necular trigger.
Posted by: Saddlesablazing | August 30, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Hillary has been beaten down by the arrogant Obama, Howard Dean and the entire press that has fallen for Obama hook line & sinker. Despite all that, she has risen…and risen & risen to the task time and again in supporting the party that she and Bill Clinto revived and rebuit. How much FREAKING “rising to the task” do people want?
At this point she could climb the Washington Monument and scream “Vote for Obama” and NOBODY is going to believe her after all the crap that was hurled at her.
the real question is “What do people want from Hillary Clinton???!!!”. It seems there’s no end.
Posted by: Dr. Dave | August 30, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Sorry folks, but you cannot shatter the glass ceiling with a woman who does not believe all other women own their own bodies and have the right to make their own decisions about that.
I voted for Hillary because she spent her whole life in the pursuit of justice for women and children of every creed and color.
Palin is the anti-Hillary. She wont shatter the glass ceiling, she will cement over the 18 million cracks WE put in it!!! Those cracks weren’t made by Palin, they were MADE by US!!! WE OWN them!!!
Posted by: Jeanne from Michigan | August 30, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
“I feel kind of bad for McCain.
Stuck not being allowed from the right wing to make his own decisions.”
And also feel sorry for zerO, his best bet was Hillary but the good ole boy liberal network wants to keep the ticket gender exclusive. And all the other male choices he made told him, thanks but no thanks. So he’s lucky Biden said yes. Even Biden comments repeatedly about his number two spot. I wonder what kickbacks from Chicago Biden is getting for his sacrifice.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Senator Obama’s speech on Thursday night was reported by Nielsen as the most watched event, beating out the Olympics, past presidential acceptance speeches and GWB’s state of the union address. The Nielsen numbers did not include the 48,000 present, CSpan, the Internet or watch parties, etc. It was simply amazing and left many, including anchors, speechless and was touted in newspapers around the world. I must admit that the Obama/Biden ticket is brilliant and easy on the eyes.
Posted by: D.H. | August 30, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Saddlesablazing,
What kind of trigger is a “necular trigger”?
Posted by: buckaroobonsai | August 30, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
“Senator Obama’s speech on Thursday night was reported by Nielsen as the most watched event” – So what? I didn’t watch at all!
Posted by: tiger | August 30, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Unbelievable polar opposites — Palin is a beauty, intelligent, actually values Family, knows the actual function of Gvt., does not seem corrupt, actually works for the people of all race and gender — not just lip service, has a moral compass and is proud of being an American and of her Country……WOW!
Barack, Joey and Hillery are, well, extremely just the opposite. THEY have proven that time after time (even the Beauty part).
Excellent choice! Which is why this ticket will be difficult to elect. The American public seems to better relate to scandel, corruption and lies. Sure says a lot about the people of America.
Posted by: freevision | August 30, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
for all you posters who say that mrs. palen BELONGS at home with her children.
let me remind you that Biden left his very young son’s bedside’s after the death of their mother and sister to go off and pursue his career. leaving them to cope with the trauma.
but it is not okay for a woman to do the same-a woman who has a husband and older children and a large extended family? that is sexism…period. yes biden went home at night as undoubtedly will mrs. palen. a modern woman today juggles career and family we are remarkable indeed. mr. palen is representational of contemporary american women in that regard.
hillary supporter in new mexico
Posted by: sonia trevino | August 30, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Oh, PLEASE, give me a break. Why should she ‘rise to the task’? Her job is done. And, it is about time that the main stream media and others stopped using her as Obama’s scapegoat.
If Mr. Obama wants to play with the ‘big boys’ (China, Russia, etc..), then he should ‘man up’ and take responsibility for the success or failure of his own actions. Instead, he points the finger at everyone but himself. Democrats should appreciate the fact that this sounds like someone else we have been dealing with for 8 years.
I am sick of hearing people support him in his inability to grow up and take responsbility! If he is going to be the President of the United States, then you should not let him get away with this childishness! We cannot afford another child in the White House.
Posted by: Sharon | August 30, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
[Obama] is a wolf in sheep`s clothing!
Posted by: Belle Starr | August 30, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
How soon Democrats seem to forget that John Edwards had zero political experience,other than 2 years as an NC Senator, when Kerry picked him for VP. I held my nose and voted for them anyway.
Posted by: Vicki in NC | August 30, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Do you people all think this was some spur of the moment decision McCain made?
Don’t you think the advisors have vetted her and all came to an agreement. This has been going on for weeks if not months and they managed to keep it under the radar. There are staffing decisions, travel plans, family movements,not to mention staffing the govenor’s office in ALaska.
Posted by: maryintampa | August 30, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
I thought after the Clinton’s speeches, Obama people wanted Clintons to disappear from the face of the campaign, now why ask them to do the dirty work for the fraud Obama
Posted by: akg | August 30, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
McCain didn’t even know this person. He had his people research the pros and cons of a pro-choice candidate so he could take HIS pick Lieberman (using abortion as a political football). He finally caved to Limbaugh and Hannity and their cronies. Yes McCain is just another Neo-Con Puppet the same as George Bush he will do what he’s told.
Posted by: dan | August 30, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Can you say ” Disaster”. this has disaster all over this VP Pick by McCain, Palin isnt going to work for McCain. She reminds me of Eggleston in 72′ and now i hear she under investagation for abuse of power for firing someone. This is a very Risky choice and Lastly she is no Hillary Clinton, and she had said about breaking 18 ceacks it is insulting to Women. i have news for you Palin ” You are and never will be Hillary Clinton”
Posted by: Matt.G | August 30, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Senator Clinton has already done more than her share!!!! Good grief!! Does she have to do everything? And, then she gets trashed by her own party!!! Fight your own battles….Nobama!!!
Posted by: DonnaD | August 30, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
C’mon Johnny your kidding, right? You made it up, right?
OK I just got it “Palin” REALLY IS Tina Faye from SNL, I knew she looked familiar. You’re just giving us a good laugh before the convention. Great joke, man, keep up the good work!
Posted by: bob10001 | August 30, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
This is another Rove ploy to bring axcitement to the Republican campaign but at great repercussions for the country. John Mccain does not even know Palin and has only spoken to her twice. This is insane! I truly think that Mccain is having either flashbacks or is experiencing major PTSD during this campaign. This country is in dire straits and need our issues seriously addressed by people who are going to help this country gain back the respect globally that we once had. McCain has made a mockery of this campaign and I know that the leaders around the world are looking at us as a joke. And I cannot believe that any rational minded person is seriously thinking about electing this mad man into office because if he gets in, you think Bush’s Administration drove this country into the roilet, you have not seen the devastation that we are headed for with a Mccain Administration in the White House.
Posted by: pdyoung | August 30, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
I think Clinton’s message is pretty clear: She is a woman = good for the Rupublicans. Her policies are wrong = bad for the country.
The Republicans are having their 1984 moment, forced by events in the Democratic Party. Good for them, that was about time. But to be a match for Hillary takes more than simpy being a woman. It will be interesting to see what else she brings to the ticket.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | August 30, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Very few voters will vote on pro life or pro choice….way down on the list. I am female and know that we will never go back to 1974.
Hillary is hoping Palin wins, because McCain has only shown interest in one term and then Palin and Hillary could run against each other in 2012!
Obama only draws attention to his empty resume by attacking a State Governor, even of a small populated state.
I love that Palin knows how to use a rifle and I bet she’s never done “blow” like Bozo. Give me a Palin on the bottom of the ticket vs. an Obama as actor/fraud/President ANYDAY.
McCAIN/PALIN
Posted by: Debra | August 30, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Anyone who already began trashing Palin before they even had opportunities to know her shows how uneducated and low class they are. Those who concluded she was guilty already solely based on the fact that there is an investigation are so ignorant and childish and are the biggest losers in the world! I don’t hat. Obama (yet) but I do (deeply) hat. most of his supporters on the internet!
Posted by: tiger | August 30, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
No need for Clinton to say more. It’s obvious that Palin is not qualified, let McCain deal with his new problem.
Posted by: Sallie | August 30, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
“Sorry folks, but you cannot shatter the glass ceiling with a woman who does not believe all other women own their own bodies and have the right to make their own decisions about that.”
The glass ceiling is only defined by abortion beliefs?
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Rick – I now. Sarah Palin is not Hillary Clinton. She’s better. A self-made woman, one who did not reach her level of political office because of her husband’s last name.
Posted by: America | August 30, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
I think she has done more than enough for this sham candidate,and she and Bill know it.Why do you think that was all she said regarding Palin??Obama needs to be on his own from here on out and quit relying on the Clintons to bail him out.
Posted by: Mary Leiby | August 30, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
The proof about whether McCain made a sucessful brave choice or an astondingly insane campaign-killing gimic, at the next report of McCain’s fund raising numbers vs. Obama’s fund raising numbers. Also the figures for new volunteers signed up for each campaign, and new registered republicans and democrats.
I have no doubt the money for Obama will triple McCain’s and volunteers and voters will easily double the republicans.
None of the spin on Palin matters, money, volunteers, and voters WIN ELECTIONS.
Posted by: mark | August 30, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Debra – why do I think your post would have been very much different if McCain was allowed to take Lieberman?
Posted by: dan | August 30, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
coming from someone who worked for hte nielsen corporation, you cant’ trust those numbers either.
Posted by: R | August 30, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
For as much as the left complains about religion being hijacked by the right, it sure seems that feminism has been hijacked by the left.
Posted by: Lollipop | August 30, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
You guys beat all I have ever seen. Hello? The ticket is Obama/Biden. It’s up to them to win the votes – not Hillary. Stop using this woman. I am so sick of you hypocritical ‘latte liberals’ or whoever you are. Classy Hillary Clinton put out a classy statement about the first woman to be selected by the Republicans for VP – an historic moment. Rejoice in it all for goodness sakes.
Posted by: Tim4Hillary | August 30, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
The DNC was just another Rock Concert.
Probably the only chance some of those folks will ever get to see the “Boss”.
Get real, it was FREE and that is driving force for the Democrats. WHAT CAN I GET FREE.
Remember Rush Limbaugh’s “Operation Chaos”? If all the repubs that crossed over to vote for Hillary in the primary vote for McCain maybe the odds change….who knows.
Posted by: MEW | August 30, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Why should Hillary attack another woman especially after the sexism she endured. No if the sexist Obama can’t take on Palin then he has no business being at the top of the ticket. I think Hillary should just concentrate on her job as US Senator and leave the fighting to the two punks that head that train wreak of a ticket.
We have moved on and are now supporting McCain/Palin “Get over it.”
Obama/Biden are going to lose because Obama wasn’t man enough to do what McCain did. Since I got robbed out of a woman at the top of the ticket I damn sure am going to vote for the woman at the bottom. Not that I dislike McCain I was going to vote for him now but now it just got sweeter.
As for the sexism. We are not going to allow anyone in the media to make comments about Sarah staying home with her baby. She has a husband at home who is just as capable as she is to take care of his son. He’s also more of a man then the empty suit at the top of the Democratic ticket.
Hillary stay away from these losers and be the best Senator you can be.
I am also proud of you for not attacking Sarah. You and Gerry are the only two Democrats I respect this year.
McCain/Palin 08 Real Change
Posted by: hillarysmygirl08 | August 30, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
This makes Obama look even weaker than he was before. He’s expecting Hillary, the one he passed over for VP to attack another strong woman? We Hillary supporters know Hillary should have been on the VP ticket. Now we will support McCain/Palin and crack that glass ceiling once and for all!!!!
Posted by: Amy | August 30, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Obama has tons more experience than Palin does. She is Inexperience to lead this country, with only 1.5 years in Gov Office, that doesnt impress me. She is no Hillary. She is under invesigation
a Women with a 4 month old baby. I dont know about ya’ll but she is not qualified to be VP, and espically President
Posted by: Matt.G | August 30, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
obamabots you guys argued that it is about judgement not experience ok you convinced us. at least mrs. palen had the good judgement not to surround herself with to say the least ‘shady characters’ and then have the gall to run for president.
hillary supporter from day 1
Posted by: sonia trevino | August 30, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Oh happy day. McCain/Palin 08. True reformers. Not just puff. Has Obama quit smoking yet?
Posted by: Kitty | August 30, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
The more I read about Palin the more she sounds like Cheney in a dress (and to be clear, this is NOT a good thing). OK, one caveat: she’s obviously a better shot…..
Posted by: SearamblerOne | August 30, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
WOW!!! Now Obama needs Hillary and her supporters. And, it is not Hillary’s job to go after Gov. Palin that Biden’s job. Who cares about Obama and DNC. I attended my frist republican meeting today, donated money and my time for the month of September.
Posted by: Sally298 | August 30, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Like Hillary once said, “If you’re in the kitchen you can take the heat.” Palin will now be vetted fairly and vocally by Obama, Biden, the Democrats, and the public. No need to attack her sex–but of course we must attack her politics, career, history, accusations and probe into illegal pushing to fire a state trooper who was in a custody battle with her sister, and character. She can’t hide behind a parasol and cry “Foul! Sexism!” when she runs for public office and is attacked fairly.
Posted by: Sallie | August 30, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
The DNC trashed Hillary and gave an affirmative action candidate the nod. It seems fitting that a woman on the republican ticket will win!
Posted by: Jeannette | August 30, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Hillary was campaigning for Bozo when he was bodysurfing in Hawaii. She and Bill did their jobs at the convention and now they should say privately “Screw you Nobama campaign”!
I hope they vacation in Martha’s Vinyard for the next two months and they are fed up of their party.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN/PALIN
Posted by: Debra | August 30, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Palin has no right to even speak the name of Hillary Clinton. Palin stands for the OPPOSITE of what Hillary stands for. I think that Hillary will certainly publically disagree with Palin pro-life crap, amongst other things. Any Clinton supporter who now supports Palin based on gender…..shame on you! THINK about the issues, NOT the gender.
Posted by: sjd | August 30, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Hillary definitely should come out and call this selection for what it is. As a woman, I am insulted by McCain’s tactics. I would hope that Hillary would be too.
Posted by: Mallory Mallory | August 30, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Clinton is going to have to take Palin on? Remember the democrats didn’t want Hillary, yet Obama can’t win without her. How much is Hillary expected to do for this ingrate? What a joke of a nominee the DNC selected, he’s afraid of a girl!
Posted by: Say What? | August 30, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Million to one odds, Hillary votes for McCain/Palin. :)
Posted by: paulette in Ocala Fl. | August 30, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Obama is petrified of strong women.
Posted by: brigitte | August 30, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Angie, I myself cheated Hillary out of the nomination, by voting for Obama in the primary. Along with millions of other voters and caucus members. Hillary cheated by not counting the caucus states, kind of a “Ok I’m losing, so now I’ll change the rules” cheating. She lost the election on her own, as history books will report. You may never believe that, but your children and grandchildren will be taught that in school.
Posted by: Sallie | August 30, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
FANTASTIC CHOICE by McCain. What courage and intelligence. Talk about “Change.” It sure as hell hasn’t come from Obama. Here is Democrat HYPOCRISY in action: Hillary and Bill clearly stated Obama did NOT have enough experience to run for Prez. ABC News broadcast the Stephanopoulos interview with Biden who said “Obama is too inexperienced,” and added, “the Presidency isn’t something you learn on the job.” WOWW!! Suddenly–BIDEN and Bill are saying experience is IRRELEVANT! PALIN has a TRACK RECORD within a few years years that WIPE’S OBAMA’S rhetoric off the map! I’m pro abortion, but she has NOT forced her values down the throats of others, has an incredibly independent mind and conscience, and was an amazing and courageous choice by McCain. Hillary can’t stand Obama. EVERYTHING she says is for one reason: to protect her chances to run in 2012. Inside, she would LOVE to see him fail because she Loves McCain far, far more! This is the truth. McCain put together the base of what he needed with Palin–women, some of the right of the Conservatives…and hey, man, this is politics if you want to win. Marketing IS involved. BUT–McCain CHOSE INTEGRITY and Palin already has far more experience than Obama who has done ZIP ALL as a Senator. He should have had a career in motivational speaking instead….
Posted by: marat | August 30, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Just because 39 million people watched Obama’s speech on Thursday night does not mean that all 39 million will vote for him. Millions of people saw Kevin Costner’s Water World too, but it sucked. To me though, I thought the speech was a great – filled with the traditional liberal sound points: Class warfare, victimization, entitlement and taxation without representation.
Posted by: Change | August 30, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
I was a Hillary supporter who has moved over to McCain. If Hillary attacks Palin it will hurt her chances of running again in 2012. She needs to start distancing herself from the thug tatics of Obama.
Posted by: Sarah | August 30, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
How come Barack Obama can’t close the deal by himself? How come everytime he needs someone to get the job done, he calls on Hillary? Because she’s the one the dumb Dems should have backed from the very beginning! And everytime they ask for Hillary’s help in doing what Obama can’t do himself, they prove again what a weak candidate he really is. Grow up, Obama, Hillary is finished cleaning up your mess!
Posted by: Grammy Barb | August 30, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Hillary simply echoed the Obama-Biden congratulatory statement.
Duh.
Posted by: Danny | August 30, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
You folks are a joke, that many people show up for a rock concert, just because they were there does not mean they support Obama alot of people went just to go so they could say they were there, every thing there was a collector item Kinda like the world first fair, every wanted to be a part of history, And as far obama running mate, he is rude, disrespectful to women and blacks, he has a bad habit of making off color jokes, so I would say Obama picked a real winner,
Posted by: oneofthecracks | August 30, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
What Nielsen cannot measure is how many fell asleep with the tv on during the hystarical speech.
Posted by: PaulE | August 30, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Let’s crack that Glass ceiling once and for all women! McCain/Palin 08′
Posted by: Amy | August 30, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
“Why did Mrs. Palin bother to have screenings done on her unborn child if they were committed to having the child even when Down Syndrome was discovered?”
They are routine tests done on every pregnancy. The tests are looking for many kinds of anomalies that babies are born with, heart defects, etc. This alerts the medical team in what to do during the pregancy and have the proper staff and equipment on hand for the delivery.
Posted by: cron | August 30, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
dl,
I have to respectfully disagree with you. McCain picked Palin, not because of her gender, but because of her politics, first and foremost. The strategic aspect is that a) it is a bold move, and b) it symbolizes respect for political participation regardless of gender. If you argue that Palin was selected because of her gender, and/or the fact that she is white, then you’ll have to say that Obama was selected by Democrats because he is a black male, and Biden was selected by Obama because he was a white male. Fact is, it depends on the view of the individual voter in each and every case.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | August 30, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Sallie,
For once and for all Hillary got half a million votes more than zerO. Children and grandchildren will read in history books how a qualified woman was denied an election she won in spite of rampant fraud at the caucuses. I will go down in history as the greatest injustice done to women in a country that tries to export democracy.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Kool-Aid drinkers, the last laugh is on you! Palin has more experience than “The One”, go ahead make a fool of yourselves, you do so well! She has 13 years political experience and Obama voted “present” in the IL assembly and showed up in the US senate, less tha 50 times in 3 years. If Obama had a real job, he would have been fired.
Posted by: Jerri | August 30, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Are we as women so shallow that any woman will do? I understand why McCain picked Palin. However, the dems did that first with Geraldine in the 80′s. It’s nice to see that the repub’s are finally getting on board. Again she is not Hillary.
For those of us who would have voted for Hillary, the only thing she and Palin have in common are pantsuits. She will make the choice for the rest of us. She is willing the help the repub’s take away our voice. I am so sorry about her child being born with downs syndrome, but she at least made the CHOICE to have her child. If she and John get in office WE will have no choice. And thought I personally am against abortion I am just as concerned with the millions of children that are already born and not getting the food, education and health care that they need.
Yes, Hillary left 18 million cracks in the glass. DON’T GET CUT BY JUST ANOTHER PRETTY FACE.
Posted by: bChandra | August 30, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Hillary owes Obama NOTHING. Obama owes Hillary & Bill Clinton, Geraldine Ferraro and ALL Americans an apology. Obama is a fraud.
Women have been failed by the DNC in 2008. Women have been the majority voting block of the Democratic party for decades under the illusion that the party stood for women’s rights. They do not. Women have been told we don’t matter, we can win without you, sit down, shut up, get in line, get out of the convention, and get behind Obama. WE have been subjected to death threats for speaking out for Hillary. WE will NOT be marginalized.
Women decide all elections and this one will be no different. WE need a loud, resounding voice of NO we don’t accept his nominee who is unqualified and unelectable.
Women will NOT fall for the tired old hook of Roe v Wade this year. The U.S. Supreme Court could attempt to overturn Roe v Wade right now if they wanted to, they have the votes. They do not. The battle for abortion rights is taking place in every statehouse in the country right now. If abortion is your issue, you need to pay more attention to your local legislature and get involved there and worry less about the U.S. Supreme Court nominees.
Women’s issues are about far more than abortion. Respect and equal opportunity are first and foremost. Hillary Clinton deserved respect and equal opportunity in 2008 from the DNC, Obama and the media. She received neither. They must be held accountable.
The DNC has really blown 2008 by nominating the wrong candidate(s). Hillary should be the nominee, she’s clearly the most qualified and electable candidate.
Hillary won more than 18 million votes, winning MORE votes than ANY candidate of ANY party in history and she’s NOT on the ticket? Biden gets the VP nod when he won less than 9? There’s a reason Biden has run and run and run for President. He’s a LOSER.
The Dems have lost 7 out of the last 10 Presidental elections. Bill Clinton won two of three we won. Bill and Hillary Clinton are the greatest political success story of the Democratic party since FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt.
Why would the DNC be so stupid as to fail to celebate Bill and Hillary Clinton? Why would they fail to celebrate Geraldine Ferraro? It takes the GOP to nominate a woman for VP and acknowledge the accomplishments of Geraldine and Hillary?
The DNC must be held accountable for this 2008 campaign debacle and the sexism, racism, classism, voter disenfranchisement and subversion of democracy that was rampant by the DNC, Obama and ALL media. It’s unacceptable.
To vote for Obama is to condone what has been done.
Vote McCain 08 and Hillary 2012.
Country first, party second.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex” Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: j | August 30, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Mccain-iacs and Palin-drones: perfect complements to the shrubs currently in office…………
Posted by: SearamblerOne | August 30, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Anyone who were moved by Obama’s speech and threw themselves behind him because of that, well, in my eyes, are naive. I’m no politician, English isn’t my language, but if I were given a well written speech in Chinese and got put on the national stage to deliver it, I could do equally good job as Obama can do. Why? Because I happen to be talented in that area, just like Obama! The thing is, there are so many people, especially the actors, are talented to do the same. If you feel delivering such speech is very hard, then chances are you might give your support to Obama after the speech.
Posted by: tiger | August 30, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
WOW!! Now Obama needs Hillary to do his dirty work agsinst Palin. This is not Hillary’s job to do but Obama’s VP, Biden. Who cares about Obama and the DNC party. I attended my first republican meeting, donated money and my time for the month of September. Remember, Obama does not need Hillary and her supporters and can win this race with her/her supporters.
Posted by: Sally298 | August 30, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
if palen is such a bad choice why are obama posters disguised as hillary supporters sounding so desperate. i have not seen this much activity on these boards since the primary.
run bambi run the woman’s got a gun.
hey let michelle come out and give palen that nasty glare she gave hillary during hill’s convention speech.
Posted by: sonia trevino | August 30, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
There was a speech Thursday night? By who?
Posted by: Jazz | August 30, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Hank,
That’s just downright mean. Sarah Palin is a lot better looking than Joe Biden, but last time I heard that wasn’t a criterion for the oval office. Else, why did we run Kerry or Dukakis?
What’s your political argument?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | August 30, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Hillary owes nothing more to Obama. He said he could win all alone when he didn’t pick Hillary for VP. Wallow in Obama. The real change is coming. McCain/Palin 08′! Let’s shatter that glass ceiling people of America once and for all!!!
Posted by: Amy | August 30, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Could everyone take a look at what is being asked of Hillary Clinton. Is the obvious just too much to grasp? The Democrats made it clear… they don’t want Hillary; so let her go already! Can’t the big boys make nice? Can’t the big boys handle a debate with a woman? What pansies! Quit the whining boys and do your jobs.
Wait, I forgot, the coward, aka Obama/Soetoro/Dunham can’t debate! He avoids it like the flue. Everyone is so intent on having the first BLACK guy as the president… they’ve lost all reality in what that man is.
Posted by: Kathy | August 30, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
“The DNC must be held accountable for this 2008 campaign debacle and the sexism, racism, classism, voter disenfranchisement and subversion of democracy that was rampant by the DNC, Obama and ALL media. It’s unacceptable.
To vote for Obama is to condone what has been done.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | August 30, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
If Hilliary as to keep bailing Obama out , does that mean if that 3 am call comes he is going to forward the call to her? if seems he can’t do anything for his self,
Posted by: oneofthecracks | August 30, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
“What Nielsen cannot measure is how many fell asleep with the tv on during the hystarical speech. ” – Haha, well said! It was boring, though I didn’t fall asleep, I turned it off in one minute.
Posted by: tiger | August 30, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Would the credentials of McCain’s pick been viewed as impressive if it were simply Sam Palin and not a female?
Posted by: Msswin | August 30, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
“Obama will find it if they have anything on this girl”
There is already a lot of shadyness on Obama that is overlooked. I think Palin’s past is saintly compared to this thug.
Posted by: jasoninpa10 | August 30, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Obama is becoming annoying
Posted by: hey | August 30, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Mark the ethics case against Palin is gonna go away. The policeman in question was tasing his wife and child abusing his rights as a police officer. There’s no way in the world anyone with a heart is going to go against Palin on this one. The man in question was TASING his family.
Posted by: Amy | August 30, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
SALLIE,
Sure took you a long time to figure out that Hillary is a cheat. Remember the 8 years she and her husband occupied the
White House…where were you then.
Posted by: MEW | August 30, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
This girl Palin is no good. She has no experience said Obama and his supporters
Posted by: paluy | August 30, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
@ Sally298
Of course Obama needs Hillary and her supporters, just like Hillary would have needed him and his supporters, had she won. That is how primary contests work: You fight hard, then you accept the outcome and rally around the nominee.
Unless of course you don’t realize that this is about the future of America and you are only in it for the exciting fan culture. Then you deserve no better than 8 more years.
Hillary knows what is at stake and she stands by Obama for the sake of the country. She knows this election is bigger than her and him. If you wanna campaign for more war and a weaker economy, that is beyond her control. But don’t call yourself a Hillary supporter then.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | August 30, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Sonia Trevino,
I’m not an Obama supporter disguised as a Hillary supporter. I think Obama was an extremely poor choice. I think the Obama-Biden selection probably makes for a slightly better ticket than Obama standing alone. I think McCain made a good choice, for his politics, in Palin. Fact is, I’m going to vote for Obama strictly on who I want to select the next Supreme Court justices. I think Obama will make similar choices to what Hillary would. I think the U.S. can probably survive an Obama administration for the next four years. we’ve survived George Bush’s eight year disaster. I respect you on your principles and who you need to vote for to be comfortable. After all, this is America, land of the free. So basically, I’m a Hillary Clinton supporter that will be pulling the lever for Obama while holding my nose the whole time.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | August 30, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
McCain’s judgement is very lacking in his his selection of Mrs. Palin. Yes, she is well liked IN ALASKA. We have highly qualified Republican women who have been in government positions and the political world much longer and who are certainly more knowledgeable on policy issues and the needs of America! These women were overlooked and bypassed by John McCain. He chooses a woman from a state with the smallest population as his running mate, WHY? Because she is a killer of animals, thinks young girls should be FORCED to have babies that were concieved through rape and incest. A woman who doesn’t even know what the heck is going on in Iraq and the rest of the world. His judgement has FAILED AGAIN!! “WE, THE PEOPLE” MUST NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, ENTRUST OUR COUNTRY TO JOHN McCAIN!!
Posted by: NinaK | August 30, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
I think part of the problem people are having with Palin is not so much her experience, but the fact that she represents our 49th state.
I’ll bet most of the posters on here couldn’t tell you who the Governor of Hawaii is either (that’s right run to Google real fast so you can post some slamming retort to this post).
Alaska is a relatively young state compared to most, and was the first state not part of the contiguous 48. I think both Alaska and Hawaii have recognition problems due to their geographic locations. If she had been the Governor from one of the 48 contiguous, I have a feeling more people would have known more about her.
I live in New Mexico, and for the longest time I think most people in the United States didn’t think New Mexico was part of the country either.
Not until our present Governor, Bill Richardson, was made part of both Clinton Administrations, and then when he became the Governor, and then launched his bid for President, did people first start realizing New Mexico was indeed part of the nation after all.
Hopefully Palin will do the same thing for the state of Alaska that Richardson did for New Mexico.
Posted by: Lee | August 30, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
So do you suppose the democrats are going to ridicule and knock yet another woman down? I already see Obama’s followers have zeroed in on her looks (which I think she is beautiful). They really need to grow up. Once again, Obama showing intolerance to women and those he considers below him and his Ivy League peers. He is so out of touch with true Americans.
Posted by: Jim | August 30, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
I had a man say to me, she has five kids and one has something wrong with it, how can she make a vp, I said well her husband has five kids and one has something wrong with it? so what the point, he said she needs to stay home and take care of her kids? and her husbands needs to do what? Obama has kids, does he need stay home and take care of his kids? Kids have two parents, both can and should take care of them, Women can and should be what ever they want, just like men, we have earned that right, so men deal with it,
Posted by: oneofthecracks | August 30, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
I am Democrat. I will not vote for Obama/Biden..Reason..The democrat delegates pledge themselves to her. Then they did about face. If you give someone your PROMISE or YOUR WORD. YOu should keep it. They give her their word and then turn and supported Obama. Nancy and the Democrats promise 100 days ..Nancy and her cohhors did nothing to bring the troops home, price of gas went up two fold….Obama promises he will solve all the problems..HOW IS HE GOING TO PAY FOR ALL OF THIS..BY RAISING OUR TAXES..”LOOK HOW MUCH MONEY THE DEMOCRATS SPEND ON THE LAST NIGHT OF THE CONVENTION…WHY DIDNT THEY HOLD THE CONVENTION IN MICHIGAN WHERE THEY ARE HARDEST HIT ECONOMICALLY INSTEAD OF COLORADO..AT LEAST IT WOULD HAVE GENERATED 200 MILLIONS DOLLARS….
I would vote for McCain/Palin…She is the kinda of woman we need…
DOnt worry ..Obama/Biden, you all will be sorry because the direction he wants to take this county..
Under Obama Plan, you dont have to work..the government will solve all your problems
Posted by: Chanel | August 30, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
I am a male democrat…I am pissed off at How Hillary Clinton was treated by the media and Barrack Obama and his circle…Yes, I will vote for McCain and Palin…So Pelosi and Dean caust the democrats the White House…I will always love Hillary,but even deep down she knows that we are better with some policy differences for four years than to elect Barrack Obama president of this country…She does have an obligation to try to help unite the democratic party,but alot of democrats know that Obama is not qualified to be president…Since i cant vote for the best…Hillary Clinton…I will do the next best thing and vote McCain /Palin
Posted by: michael | August 30, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
I love how Republicans care so much about saving unborn babies but are more than happy to ship boys who are barely 18 off to die over in Iraq.
Posted by: Tim | August 30, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
I’m not sure I agree with Jake Tapper’s suggestion that the Obama camp wishes Hillary had been harsher on Palin, because Obama, Biden, and now Hillary Clinton seem to be on the same wavelength – congratulate Palin and then sit back and wait to see whether she self destructs, or the media do it for her. By avoiding direct attacks, they appear gracious, and by letting the McCain camp be the next to raise the issue of “inexperience”, they can be in a position to let the electorate judge him on the issue of hypocrisy. If Palin unexpectedly proves to be an important asset, I expect Obama and Clinton will be more aggressive, but they see no need to rush.
Posted by: Fred Moolten | August 30, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Gov. Palin: brains and beauty, she has it all. Sarah will make a great vice-president and later, a president.
Hey Obama, you can always run for president of Europe, Ha, Ha, Ha!
Posted by: Jenifer James LA | August 30, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Why should the Clinton’s continue to bail Obama out? He wanted this so bad, let him fight his own battles. The Clintons did what they had to do and kissed up at the convention, I hope they don’t continue to do so.
Obama’s campaign had better be careful in heading down the sexism road again too, that and constantly twisting Bill Clinton’s words during the primaries is what totally turned me off of Obama long ago. Of course, his shady associations didn’t help either.
Posted by: dwc | August 30, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Oh now you’re worried about what Obama will look like? It’s Obama’s job to give the case for his candidacy. It is no longer Clinton’s job to HAVE to do anything. If this is the case, then I guess the republicans will need to pull out Colin Powell to question Obama, because everyone else who’s done it has become labeled a racist.
Posted by: Angela | August 30, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Hillary nor Obama nor Biden need to tear down Palin. Mark my words, this is Harriet Myers all over again. She is a hollow candidate. I simply can’t get over the fact that an ailing 72 year old presidential candidate would be that idiotic to put an unproven, unheard of, overwhelmed running mate. I don’t care if she is black, white, asian, male or female, her isolation to Alaska is a danger to us.
Vote for McCain Palin if you want a war with Russia, Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan at the same time while paying $10/gallon for gas as you drive to the unemployment line to tell people how smart you are by your soon to be flailing education system denying evolution while your wife has to listen to the government about your reproductive rights.
Great choice McSame… Great choice. If you PUMA people think this is your ticket then go ahead. No amount of intelligence or articulation will save your ignorance.
By the way, the president of PUMA looked great on Hardball last night. Was she strung out at the time!!!
Posted by: Rogue | August 30, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Well, this is a joke election and it reflects the reality: America is in joke stage.
All parties involved took opportunistic approach, and all of them get worse.
Obama. He should choose Hilary as VP. If so, his winning is almost for sure. But, he is afraid a strong VP and dreamed that he could get a way by choosing Biden. But, he just left a big hole for McCain to use and McCain did. I would say, O’s chance is very small now.
Hilary. She should stand for her independent candidate. Even though she will lose in the election, she still leave strong historical records. But, she tried to aiming 2012 and did cooperation with O and O trashed her without offering VP. But, now, her chance of 2012 is very very small.
McCain is another joke. We will see it more clearly when he gets into Oval office.
Posted by: laughlauder | August 30, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
“I love how Republicans care so much about saving unborn babies but are more than happy to ship boys who are barely 18 off to die over in Iraq.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | August 30, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
The “fraud” Sarah Palin is involved in is fighting the good old boys’ network in Alaska when the state troopers refused to fire her sister’s abusive husband. Unless think it’s OK to taser an 11-year old child, drive your police car while drunk, and threaten the life of your father-in-law. So go ahead and keep talking about this – Sarah Palin is a hero to every abused woman and child in this country for whom our system of governmental protection has often failed, and I salute her.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | August 30, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
El_Pajaro: And Hillary will stand alone with Obmaa without one of her supporters. This is my vote and my vote is NOW FOR MCCAIN/PALIN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
Posted by: Sally298 | August 30, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
McShame opposes stem cell research but open to skin cell because he has skin cancer. How selfish! “Country First”?
His VP choice re-enforces his hypocrisy.
Posted by: ct | August 30, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Well, this is a joke election and it reflects the reality: America is in joke stage.
All parties involved took opportunistic approach, and all of them get worse.
Obama. He should choose Hilary as VP. If so, his winning is almost for sure. But, he is afraid a strong VP and dreamed that he could get a way by choosing Biden. But, he just left a big hole for McCain to use and McCain did. I would say, O’s chance is very small now.
Hilary. She should stand for her independent candidate. Even though she will lose in the election, she still leave strong historical records. But, she tried to aiming 2012 and did cooperation with O and O trashed her without offering VP. But, now, her chance of 2012 is very very small.
McCain is another joke. We will see it more clearly when he gets into Oval office.
Posted by: laughlauder | August 30, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
I believe John McCain was a very poor choice by the Republicans, I also believe Mrs. Palin is a very poor choice by McCain and his campaign. What is McCain trying to prove??
Carol McCain = a modeling beauty
Cindy McCain = a rodeo queen beauty
Sarah Palin = a beauty pageant contestant in the least populated state of our union.
Hmmm, looks like McCain’s prerequisite for the women in his life is BEAUTY!! Did anyone notice how NERVOUS but EXICTED he was when he introduced Sarah Palin?? Playing with his wedding band as if he was going to remove it and throw it to the wind, then decided against it and opted to dig under his fingernails instead?? Real Class that John McCain!! Body language SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS!!
Posted by: NinaK | August 30, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
El_Pajaro: And if Obama needed Hillary, he should have placed her on the ticket. Not placing her on the ticket, is saying I do not need you. So, good by to you and Obama.
Posted by: Sally298 | August 30, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Let’s settle this argument right here, right now. The current sitting Vice President a) mainly presides over the Senate, b) goes to a lot of funerals, c) meddled quite often where he should not, and d) shot a guy in the face.
Either Biden or Palin should be able to at least match those credentials, or even exceed them. Don’t you think?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | August 30, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
It isn’t Hillary’s job to beat McCain, Palin. It is Obama’s.
Posted by: akconstant | August 30, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Hype bites,
Here is a fact for you. McCain met Palin ONCE. ONCE. Not twice… not three times. ONCE. You pick a likely president from a brief encounter. Is this the mark of intelligence? No… McCain is exceptionally ignorant. He nearly flunked out of the Academy. But you have a candidate that went to Columbia and Harvard where he excelled.
Intelligence and competence are on Obama’s behalf.
Palin was indeed a spontaneous and impetous decision that was the death knell for his campaign after a momentous month. Stupid is what stupid does!!!
Save our country. Vote Obama/Biden.
This independent is!!!
Posted by: Rogue | August 30, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Is it written somewhere that only a woman can be the total caretaker for a child? Who on this list is knowledgeable about the lives of the Palin’s to even dare to speak of their parenting?
Nobama has no experience in ANYTHING, yet the media has declared him a saint. I will totally support the McCain/Palin ticket, anything to keep Nobama out! If he should be elected, the idiots who vote for him deserve what they get!
This process has been the most biased that I have ever seen in my life, and I am 63 years old!
Posted by: Pat_M | August 30, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Don’t forget Obama doesn’t even know how many states in USA! What a joke! How can he be our president?
Posted by: tiger | August 30, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
I haven’t read any of the comments but just wanted to say, isn’t it like a politician not to want to do the dirty work so the voters won’t see him for who he is. If Obama wanted Hillary to be the attack dog he should have picked her.
Posted by: lordy lordy | August 30, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Response to Cekerri’s post on 8/30/08:
You are absolutely right. This Political circus is getting funnier with each passing day. I am also a woman and I can read between the lines. Apparently, McCain feels that he can’t win so he pulls this stunt on the uncertain people. We, the people, are NOT incompetent. We as woman have been underestimated and disrespected as in being coerced in believing that the GOP will conquer all ’cause a woman is on the ticket. As far as Hillary is concerned, she could change her rah-rahs to no-nos next week. This is a “low blow” to her in my book. Conclusively, McCain has played his last hand.
Posted by: Peggy | August 30, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Palen’s limited experience bothers me a little, but so did John Edward’s limited experience when I voted for Kerry/Edwards in ’04. And Edward’s had less experience than Palen. I am a Hillary supporter who will vote McCain/Palen ’08
Posted by: VL in NC | August 30, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Obama and the DNC did not want to deal with Hillary. They were so sure all Hillary’s supportes would move to Obama therefore if was not necessary to add Hillary as the VP. Surprise Obama and DNC…..we are walking.
Posted by: willie | August 30, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
It seems as if Sen. Obama keeps expecting Sen. Clinton to bail him out whenever there’s a problem. Would this continue if he was elected President?
Posted by: buckaroobonsai | August 30, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
NinaK,
Your comments are insulting and degrading to women. They are similar in ilk to the trash that Hillary faced through the primary. I didn’t hear the pundits attacking Biden when he teared up, yet Hillary has an emotional moment and the earth virtually stopped in talking head land. Fact is, age is a great equalizer, so a beauty contest 20 years ago has no meaning today. As far as I know Palin is a Governor. You failed to mention that along the way. By the way, Hillary is a distinguished Senator in case you want to throw some snideness her direction to.
At the end of the day, I’m voting for Obama because of Supreme Court choices. I will not feel badly if McCain prevails, though.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | August 30, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Hillary wants McCain to win so she can re-run in 2012…why else would she support a women she has nothing in common with ideologically and politically. She only thinks of herself, not the party.
Posted by: borninkl | August 30, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
One thing is for sure….I haven’t seen as much posting on these blogs during the last two or three months since Hillary left the race as I have seen since McCain announced his VP selection.
You have to admit, life would be pretty boring without the women around to stir everything up……………
Posted by: Lee | August 30, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
“I would say, O’s chance is very small now.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | August 30, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Why should Clinton need to do the bashing for Obama and Biden?? She already had to do Obama’s job to unify the party … why should she do any more. I think it is interesting how Obama supporters continued to bash her even after she has pledged to help Obama win the White House, but now they come full circle cause they need her to take care of Palin for them. Strange.
Posted by: TP | August 30, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Every time someone points out that they think Palin has too little experience it reminds America that Obama has even less.
No community organizers for President!
Democrat for McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: Alex | August 30, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
You people don’t realize that McCain picked Palin ONLY because Obama didn’t pick Hillary. Had he done so, you bet McCain would’ve NEVER picked that barely-known lady to run vs. the power of Hillary. If you think Obama is undersestimating women, I don’t know what you consider what McCain is doing by choosing a woman when Hillary is out of the ticket. It’s clear he thinks women will vote for him ONLY because there’s a woman in his ticket. He surely thinks we don’t have enough brain to see more than meets the eye. Women aren’t that stupid Mr. McCain! I for once wanted HILLARY, not just any other human being of the same gender!! If i felt insulted by Obama, i feel disgusted by McCain!
I’m pretty sure Obama will give Hillary the place she deserves if he becomes president. McCain just wants the votes to win, and fooling women is his newest strategy to do so. Shame on you Mr. McCain!!
Not
Posted by: Hope | August 30, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
the STARK difference of selectin Joe Biden vs Sarah Palin.
EVERY American was reasured by Obama’s selection that should the unthinkable happen he is fully prepared and fully competant to take over as president.
In contrast the selection of Palin makes voters wonder about John McCain’s competancy and soundness of mind.
“Ann Coulter of the KLONDIKE” isn’t getting within 5000 miles of the US nuclear aresenol, the safety of every American, or selecting ANYONE on MY Supreme Court.
Posted by: mark | August 30, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
“McShame opposes stem cell research but open to skin cell because he has skin cancer. How selfish! “Country First”?
His VP choice re-enforces his hypocrisy.”
You obviously don’t understand this issue at all. You can go to his website to find his exact position,but he opposes INTENTIONAL CREATION of embryos for stem cell research, he is not against using stem cell lines already existing. Like many others, he hopes the skin cell research which shows promise for a variety of disorders will replace the need for ANY embryonic stem cell research. He stated this clearly at the Saddleback Forum 2 weeks ago.
This is the type of argument that gives some Obama supporters a bad name and shows people against McCain do not know what they are talking about. Educate yourself on issues from both candidates before making uneducated arguments.
Posted by: dwc | August 30, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
I can’t believe all the Obama experience supports now. Just the day before yesterday you were grasping through history to say who had less experience and made it to the presidency. How many Lincoln posts were there? Vice Presidents are Presidents in training, not the other way around. I had hoped Obama could have used the next eight years getting the experience he needs as Vice President, the position he is qualified for, but instead we will have four more years of the lesser of two evils.
Posted by: lordy lordy | August 30, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
P. S. Let the double standards and sexist remarks begin anew! Obama is not the “Experienced” one?
Posted by: dwc | August 30, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Palin’s gender doesn’t need to be attacked. Her policies are enough, thank you.
Posted by: Hope | August 30, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
I am a life long Demo, I want to know if it is or is not true that Obama refuses to salute the flag….is this really true? Please tell me
Posted by: Mary Ann | August 30, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
When my husband heard about McCain’s pick, his first thought was it was only to get Hillary voters to vote for a woman. We watched the news talk shows on all the different cable networks (so we could hear the good and negative comments)and read many articles on the web. After doing so, we feel it was a good choice on McCain’s part. She is not just some lady from Alaska. She has done much in her two years as Gov., including taking on her own party. I remember reading about that disgracful “Bridge to Nowhere” that the representative from Alaska tried to get passed with all that pork barrel spending cr*p they try to pass every time the budget needs to be passed. The money he wanted for a project that was a TOTAL waste of our tax dollars was unbelievable.
As far as that news reporter on CNN that remarked how she will be neglecting her Down’s Syndrome baby, what an stupid remark. The baby has a father, too! Believe it or not, there are fathers who also stay home with their children in this day and age. And they do an very good job, too.
All the sexist remarks about her face being ugly, so what, are you voting on looks? McCain and Biden are old looking and Obama looks like Fievel the mouse from “American Tales”. If looks are all that matters, you are in trouble.
The debates will show who will be the most qualified, just as Hillary proved in the debates she was more qualified than Obama. The big question is, will the people vote for the most qualified or the most historic: first black President or first female Vice-President. The Democrats really dropped the ball on this one. We are registered democrats, but BO has not won us over yet.
Posted by: J.S. | August 30, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Hey, Hope, I mean, Fake Hope: you wrote: “you people don’t realize that McCain picked Palin ONLY because Obama didn’t pick Hillary. Had he done so, you bet McCain would’ve NEVER picked that barely-known lady to run vs. the power of Hillary.”. What would you expect Obama would do should McCain picked his vp first? Don’t you think McCain’s choice would influence Obama’s? This is a fair game, a political game. Of course McCain would not pick Palin IF Clinton is the vp. Isn’t it obvious? Do we need YOU to remind that? You are still telling us that Obama does everything not for political purposes. What a joke you are! What a shame that you called yourself “hope”. Delusional hope, indeed. Did you even attend elementary school?
Posted by: tiger | August 30, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Tiger – You’re right. Good post. Mac and Palin met twice: Once for a weekend in Feb. And then another time recently in Sedona. Aides say that he has talked to her evryday since May. He has been thinking about her for a while. It was a very calculated move. And the more time goes on, the more I feel that BHO is a little nervous about this.
Posted by: Obama is a crock | August 30, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Sarah Palin may be a woman, but she will absolutely nothing to further women’s rights. The Republican Party is the party that has been, and will continue to be, responsible for oppressing American women. Anyone who can’t see that needs to go take a History refresher course. She is just being used to help McCain stand a chance. I agree, Hillary will have to take Palin down, it is the only way to avoid the inevitable sexist charges. I have no doubt that Hillary will take Palin to task, and Palin will be embarassed miserably, just as she will be when it comes to debating the issues with Joe Biden. McCain ended his candidacy yesterday with this pick. She is so unqualified it is diturbing, and actually could pose a threat to National security. McCain and his staff should be ashamed of themselves for acting so irresponsibly. Luckily, it appears that most Americans are seeing right through the shockingly transparent attempt to pander. President Obama and V.P. Biden will take it from here, and all the way to the White House in January 2009.
Change is on the way!!!
YES WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Dr. Maurice Wallace | August 30, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
So now Obama and Biden won’t be able to attack Palin because she’s a woman? What about all the attacks from the republicans to Hillary? It’s time to stop looking at the gender and pay attention to what comes out of their mouths. Don’t give me this “going easy” at her cause she’s a woman.
Women are asking for equality? Well, how about starting with dealing with attacks just like men do.
Posted by: Hope | August 30, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Hillary to slam Palin?
Palin has more guts and integrity than Hillary.
She could have an abortion when she knew she would have a child with a Down syndrome. But she didn’t. No matter whether we believe in abortion rights or not, we should salute her strong conviction in the sanctity of life and her acceptance for what fate has dealt her. She still says her son is perfect. That is character. As for the other guy, it is “above his pay grade” to know when life starts.
Palin took on a corrupt Republican machine instead of pandering to their wishes. She increases taxes on the oil companies and return the money to the people. I heard her phone interview that she gave to a reporter some time ago about protection of polar bears, and she was very articulate and well-informed, and able to discuss sensibly on the technical issues. She actually “talk the talk and walk the walk” contrary to what some in the media claimed. Her legislative achievements are on written records, unlike others who only talk and give exagerated anecdotes of their achievements.
I am a guy and yet I donated to Hillary’s campaign because I thought Hillary would be a better choice compared to Obama. Hillary said during the campaign that he should not be trusted to answer the 3 am phone call. But when both Clintons ask people to vote for him at the convention, I felt so foolish to give to her campaign. That is an example of someone who panders to the party’s machinery. Hillary should be ashamed if she wants to slam Palin.
Gustav has become hurricane 4 and what has Obama-Biden got to say to New Orleans’ folks?..”Say a Prayer”
My car’s tires are already at maximum allowable pressure. How much more can I inflate them to get lower gas bills?
Yet the media (especially MSNBC and CNN) are hyping these two sky-high as if they are heroes of the Greek mythology, appearing from the Temple to save the nation.
Posted by: Jeff | August 30, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Mary Ann………..
He wouldn’t wear a US FLAG lapel pin
until we out here started to complain about it..he thought he might not be patriotic enough or would lose a vote he started to wear one. Did see a picture of him where he had his back to the flag when the pledge was being recited. Sounds like u as a DEM just might be questioning the “Anointed One”.
Thanks for your vote if you decide to vote Republican!!!
Posted by: MEW | August 30, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
HOPE”
‘I’m pretty sure Obama will give Hillary the place she deserves if he becomes president.’
Don’t count on it…. unless B O decides Hillary wants the first stall in the Senate locker room!
Obama plays the game like the Chicago type charatan politician he is!
For him, “Promises”…. are “Words…. just Words” .
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!
WE WOULD HAVE PREFERRED HILLARY,
but:
MCCAIN AND PALIN
will have to do
until the year
that ends in “2″!
Posted by: hmmmm | August 30, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Hillary is not going to slam Palin, in fact expect Hillary to be very quiet from now on.
She’ll need to stay neutral to better use this to her advantage no matter who wins, for 2012.
Posted by: Robert | August 30, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Hope: As someone who is pretty neutral on the abortion issue, let me remind you that civil rights are a very relative concept: What may seem like a civil rights victory to you pertaining to the choice of the mother may be a civil rights violation of the baby to someone else.
Posted by: Careful... | August 30, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
I live in Alaska, Palin won by default people..
The Republicans in Alaska are so corrupt, that a Polar Bear would have won the run for Office…
Palin is a empty skirt..
They say she stood up to Big Oil but will let them dril IN ANWAR at will killing off the wild life..
So much for A Pro-Lifer that supports the Death Penalty…
Posted by: AL | August 30, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
What a choice. What was the McCain campaign thinking? There is NO way he’ll win now. What a doof.
Posted by: Richard | August 30, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Hope – The Republicans did not attack Hillary. Your Democrats did.
Posted by: mm | August 30, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
maryann— what does it matter if he salutes the flag. patriotism is an individual personel thing some show it some dont– some for political realities some for morals— some blindly some with great insight. be more concerned with the direction he wants to lead the country.
Posted by: cisc | August 30, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
“So now Obama and Biden won’t be able to attack Palin because she’s a woman? What about all the attacks from the republicans to Hillary?”"
How about all the attacks from fellow DEMOCRATS and repressive retrogressive liberals of left toward Hillary. Huh, who’d needs the Republicans when we have the DEMOCRATS and liberals to do the job for them.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
It seems the McCain/Palin ticket is running against Biden. People are forgetting poor Barry O.
Posted by: Harold | August 30, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
To me all this the men will come across as chauvinists if they attack Palin crap has got to stop now! This mess was started with Hillary and it should have stopped with her.
To me if a woman is wanting to play in the wading pool with the men (political world is 90% male)then they need to learn to get their feelings off of their shoulders and take it like a man! Women who cry foul play as they watch are no better because we wanted to be treated as equals and now that you are when you have to face the heat or be debated (by men) we can’t come running back hollering well I’m a girl he shouldn’t talk to me. All during the campaign between Obama & Hillary women were crying she wasn’t treated right when they tried to be cordial & nice and when they tried the tough approach they said he was undermining her because she was a woman. Yet it is okay for women to sling the mud as long as it don’t come back at them, why because we were born a woman????
I say Biden needs to go into his debates with Palin (she chose her title she should be able to take it) as he normally would whether it is a man or woman, and those who cry foul need to go have their little, whittle feelings checked at the door. Because most women have chosen to take the roles of men and must learn to accept the challenges that comes with it and stop crying when things don’t go your way. Trust me if she was to become VP do you think the Saudi, Russia or China is going to be nice to her or say nice things, please it will probably be worse.
If they make a sexual/perverted comment towards her then I will cry foul other than that, shissh!
Posted by: okay | August 30, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
WHY ON EARTH should Hillary do their misogynistic dirty work for them??? Isn’t it interesting that BO doesn’t give Hillary an ounce of respect (i.e., allows others to call her a “racist” and “monster” while not even considering her as a running mate.) BO, take the pacifier out of your mouth and fight your own battles. Don’t spit in someones face and expect them to turn around and fight your battles for you.
Posted by: thetruthandonlythetruth | August 30, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
FactChecker1 -
No, you don’t have to vote along your Party line, as this voter who has never voted a rep presidential candidate will do in this November.
Posted by: d0 | August 30, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Firsr of all I am a woman. Those women that want to live in a ‘man’s world’ should be able to “stand-up and take it like a man”. If you can’t take the heat get out of their world.
Posted by: MEW | August 30, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
“WHY ON EARTH should Hillary do their misogynistic dirty work for them???”
good one. let the burka boys sink.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
I think Hillary has done enough for the Obama camp. Return to New York, Hillary, get back to your daytime job, and we’ll see you again in 2012.
Posted by: Roberta | August 30, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
” You are all personally responsible for America’s decline. Prepare to be destroyed.”
… so THIS is what Obama means when he
tells his followers to chant:
“YES WE CAN!”
Does this also mean that the “Change” he talks about is the one which will propel us back to the early 60′s?
I’ll pass!
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!
MCCAIN AND PALIN.
Posted by: hmmmm | August 30, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
hype bites—i would say she must have left an impression. sometimes u just know
Posted by: cisc | August 30, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
WHY ON EARTH should Hillary do their misogynistic dirty work for them??? Isn’t it interesting that BO doesn’t give Hillary an ounce of respect (i.e., allows others to call her a “racist” and “monster” while not even considering her as a running mate.) BO, take the pacifier out of your mouth and fight your own battles. Don’t spit in someones face and expect them to turn around and fight your battles for you.
Posted by: thetruthandnothingbut | August 30, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
My theory — The selection of Palin was simply a cynical attempt to steer the news cycle away from the Dem Convention (which was going far too well for comfort). The Reps have no intention of keeping her as their VP. During the convention (which they will probably postpone conveniently due to hurricane, which allows Palin to generate another week of buzz), she will regretfully decline the nomination after due consideration because the demands of campaigning would be too great a conflict with the needs of her infant with Down Syndrome. Plus she will probably mention her commitment to continuing rooting out corruption in the State of Alaska. This will leave her smelling like a rose, and the Reps able to trot her out again if need be. It will also, of course, cause another blip in the news cycle and give an unwarranted bump to whatever safe and lackluster pick they decide to go with.
Posted by: CitizenB | August 30, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
“”How about all the attacks from fellow DEMOCRATS and repressive retrogressive liberals of left toward Hillary. Huh, who’d needs the Republicans when we have the DEMOCRATS and liberals to do the job for them.”"
So what? Hillary is the female power of the Democrats no matter what. It’s time for Palin to deal with real politics.
Posted by: Hope | August 30, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Sorry but Hillary Clinton was kicked to the curb by her own party. She doesn’t have to do anything for Obama anymore. It’s time for Obama and the DNC to put up or shut up. They wanted this bicycle, now let them pedal without Hillary’s training wheels.
Posted by: expat4hillary | August 30, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
why should Hillary have to do anything? Time for the candidates to stand on their own, sans Clintons
Posted by: wildheart4mcpalin | August 30, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
It’s not Senator Clinton’s responsibility to do Obama/Biden’s dirty work for them. They made their beds and now they can lie in them. They pushed Senator Clinton and her supporters to the side, now they can fight their own battles. Senator Clinton’s comments were appropriate. She didn’t need to say anything less or anything more. They told us to get over it, well now they can just get over it!
Posted by: Vici57 | August 30, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
CitizenB your theory doens’t make any sense. She already accepted. And the convention will not be postpone.
Posted by: Hope | August 30, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
I am sick and tired of Obama asking Clinton to do things for him. Enough. She did more than enough! Please let her do her work for the good people of NY. It is time for Obama and the MSM to realize that he is a responsible grown up. It is up to candidate Obama to respond to his opponents it is up to him to win or lose the elections.
I do not remember other elections when the candidates where expecting others to do the job for them. What a shame!
Posted by: Marcelka | August 30, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
After the way the DNC and the media, back stabbed Hillary, and lied on her. And the way Obama was “given” the election. I think that Hillary should leave the party and become an independent. The DNC is an embarrassment. And CNN and MSNBC are worse than the Pavarazzi.
Posted by: Anna | August 30, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Go McCain/Palin.
I was a Hillary supporter and very disappointed in the way the media and the DNC and Obama treated her. I am switching to McCain/Palin.
Obama follows the old politicians, talk and walk the same old politicians way. McCain/Palin actually “talk the talk and walk the walk” of the REAL CHANGE.
No more empty talk, or words, or rhetorics. NO Obama/Biden.
GO MCCAIN/PULIN!
Posted by: tigerjcs | August 30, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
@ Chris:
Nice try in wanting to turn tables by telling us that Palin called Hillary a whiner, and on HuffPo no less. The same HuffPo who has been calling Hillary racist and other vile insults for months.
As far as I’m concerned, Clinton and Palin are not of the same party, and while I’m a Hillary suppoter to the core, those types of exchanges are typical of political opponents.
I am much more appalled at how the DNC and MSM treated HC, starting from said HuffPo. No use in crying wolf over what Palin said- it won’t work.
Posted by: expat4hillary | August 30, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
“So what??? spoken like a truhe regressive, retrogressive left liberal.
And it’s time for Obama to deal with real politics instead of empty rhetoric at rock concerts, this is politics, not entertainment.”
Obama is ready. That’s it.
Posted by: Hope | August 30, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
The way the DNC and Obama and his supporters treated Hillary and Bill, how on earth can they exepect them to do even more for Obama? I mean the man cannot stand on his own two feet already and the Clintons did their job at the convention. Start standing on your own two feet Obama and stop depending on Hillary. If you needed her you would have picked her as VP you idiot! REAL CHANGE IS COMING MCCAIN/PALIN 08′
Posted by: Amy | August 30, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
“By the way, did anyone see the video of Michael Moore saying there is a God,”
But the regressive, retrogressive liberal left just adore him. Then they spew venom at his conservative counterpart, Limbaugh. The RRLL are so full of double standard. I was an idiot once and thought the Democrats were better.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
“Obama is ready. That’s it.”
Ready for what, to give a telepromt speech in MLK fashion.
In politics, as opposed to entertainment, actions speak louder than words, yet just words.
Posted by: hype bites | August 30, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Obama is ready. That’s it.
Posted by: Hope | Aug 30, 2008 3:40:25 PM
____________________
…. but FOR W H A T ??????
ALWAYS PUT
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!
MCCAIN AND PALIN!!!!!
Posted by: hmmmm | August 30, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
truth what a way to wipe the thought of hillary (spongebob)pantsuits from our collective conscious
Posted by: cisc | August 30, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Translation??? “Should have picked me Obama.”
Posted by: CuriousIndep | August 30, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Can anyone here who supports Obama, tell us what he has managed? Obama is a legislator who isn’t capable of managing a hot dog stand!
Posted by: clyde | August 30, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Palin saying she doesn’t know what the VP does let’s me know, I won’t be voting for McCain or his stooge..
Posted by: AL | August 30, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Yesterday was such an exciting day, 24 hour coverage of McCain and his VP pick. This is wonderful news! Shows good judgment and highlights the dems inability to recognize what a wonderful woman they had in Hillary. Of course, yet again, Junior turns to the strong experienced Hillary to help him out. She, along with millions of others, called this months ago, he cannot win. Absolutely, cannot win.
Posted by: History in the Making! | August 30, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
John McCain was aiming to make history with his pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and historians say he succeeded.
Presidential scholars say she appears to be the least experienced, least credentialed person to join a major-party ticket in the modern era.
I guest McCain’s trailer gets some upgraded trash…
Posted by: Chucky | August 30, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
I loved Hillary’s statement. It was succinct, powerful, and respectful. Wrong direction is the clear point!! Why belabor it? I am sure there enough misogynistic folks out there to attack Palin.
Posted by: countallthevotes | August 30, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
See, Terrorist love this pick from McCain, she’s Pro-life and won’t know what the hell to do in a Military crisis..
McCain has really sold the GOP and Conservatives out..
I am Navy veteran now staying home..
Thanks McCain, I knew you could’t get the job done on your own merit..
Lackey!!
Posted by: Kip | August 30, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
A pretty woman she may be, but
she’s pathetic. In her acceptance
speech yesterday, Palin had zero
to say except asking women who
voted for Hillary to come out and
vote for her.
This beauty queen had nothing
but scorn for Clinton whom she
called a whiner during the
Democratic primaries.
Posted by: anon | August 30, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
It is beyond ridiculous that any supporter of Hillary Clinton would vote for McCain simply because he chose a woman as his VP running mate. If you care AT ALL for the principles for which Hillary stands, you should not vote for a woman whose platform is exactly the opposite. Clinton supporters, please, this is not rational thinking and you know it! Palin is anti-choice, supports creationist teaching in schools (under the label “intelligent design”) and is an NRA supporter. This is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of how vastly her political beliefs differ from that of Hillary’s. Please, don’t be reactionary! Remember why you support Hillary and don’t disavow Obama because you feel betrayed by the Democrats. Otherwise, you are just giving into superficial partisan politics that not only does a disservice to women (and women’s rights), but seriously underestimates the ability of American men and women to make intelligent and rational decisions about who we want to run our country.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Laura | August 30, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
THIS IS THE MOST SENIOR DEM.WE HAVE???? RIGHT BACK AT YA!!!!!
Posted by: RELD1127 | August 30, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Democrats will never vote for a Republican, their to intelligent..
Republicans will vote for a Democrat once they get educated…
Republicans for Obama has their own websites.
Veterans for Obama out number any support for McCain.
Vet’s Approval rating for Obama 80%
Vet’s Approval for McCain, 20%
Vet’s have donated more to Obama, 60-1
Posted by: Kip | August 30, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Obama’s campaign has been all about change, yet his most recent policy proposals (over the last month) are practically a replica of Hillary’s. How is this about change? Also if he wants to run a campaign so similar to Hillary’s why not pick Hillary? It would make him seem more legit. ~Confused
Posted by: Question | August 30, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
The Bush Sidekick pick his stooge, NICE!!
We conservatives are not stooping this low to support this idiot…
I am glad my Conservative group have decided to stay home..
50-70 year old Grannies don’t like being pandered too..
Posted by: Olga | August 30, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
I’m searching for a website that shows how both Obama’s and McCain’s policies are likely to effect the country. Can anyone give me a recommendation? I would prefer something factual with references to theory and past policies.
Posted by: Searching | August 30, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Yes, a woman can hold office and take care of her children. Women do it every day of the week. Run a country or the PTA. Basic common sense. If my sister had an abusive husband I would use every means available to help my sister. Do the research before we start pointing fingers!! Don’t depend on CNN or FOX to have all the answers. Who are the real puppets? AGAIN COMMON SENSE!!
Posted by: Marcia | August 30, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
wait until biden shreds that delicate little flower, she will cry all the way back to alaska.. palin is no hillary, hillary could stand toe to toe with any politician thsi palin will be chewed up and spit out mccain made a big mistake, this lady can not debate a guy like biden.
Posted by: tom | August 30, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Both men and women are suckers
for good looks. That’s the real
danger the pretty Ms. Palin
poses in this election.
She’s not the right girl, the
right woman, to be Vice President
or President.
Posted by: anon | August 30, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Senator Clinton is going to get back to work in the Senate. Obama made it perfectly clear that he didn’t need her or her supporters both before and during the convention. Now that the McCain team have changed the game plan, Obama will come running back to Senator Clinton.
Senator Obama you dug this hole for yourself, now you have to get out of it all by yourself. How’s Joe Biden working for you now?
Posted by: RepNY | August 30, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
In their congratulatory calls and positive words, the Democratic candidates and leadership have shown the kind of class and grace that Americans are looking for in the campaigns. Let’s see if the other side is able to respond in kind…
Posted by: DaveM | August 30, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
I think Hillary was pretty on target: “policies would take America in the wrong direction.” I for one am not interested in continuing the current movement in the wrong direction. This choice by McCain is an indication of very poor judgement— truly scary. While I didn’t plan to vote for McCain before, now I will work my hardest to make sure Colorado goes blue.
Signed,
A woman voter
Posted by: DR_JES | August 30, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Seems to me Hillary has every incentive to keep McCain/Palin from winning. Hillary would then no longer be the most qualified female to run for President in 2012. Give ‘em heck Hillary!
Posted by: Rob | August 30, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Obama who?
I forgot all about him when he and the DNC elites stabbed Hillary Clinton and the millions of supporters, including millions of women, in the back!
McCain-Palin is appealing for many reasons, one of which includes sending Obama nd the DNC out on their collective buttox!
Woot!
Posted by: US Vet | August 30, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Sarah Palin is a proven can do Governor. Here is a list of former Governors you may have heard about. During their time many (if not all) of these people were considered too inexperienced for the job at hand.
Experience is like IQ, it all depends on how you use it.
Following governors from Virginia, other presidents were governors first from a variety of other states:
1. Martin Van Buren: Governor of New York in 1829
2. James Polk: Governor of Tennessee, serving from 1839-1841
3. Andrew Johnson: Governor of Tennessee from 1853-1857 and then appointed by Lincoln to serve as military governor of Tennessee from 1862-1864
4. Rutherford Hayes: Governor of Ohio from 1868-1872 and again from 1876-1877
5. Grover Cleveland: Governor of New York from 1883-1885
6. William McKinley: Governor of Ohio from 1892-1896
Numerous presidents were governors first in the 20th century. The list begins with
7. Theodore Roosevelt, first Governor of New York from 1899-1901.
8. Woodrow Wilson: Governor of New Jersey from 1911-1913
9. Calvin Coolidge: Governor of Massachusetts from 1919-1921
10. Franklin Delano Roosevelt: Governor of New York from 1929-1933
11. Ronald Reagan: Governor of California from 1967-1975
12. Jimmy Carter: Governor of Georgia from 1971-1975, and the first elected governor from the South post Civil War
13. Bill Clinton: Governor of Arkansas for two separate terms, from 1979-1981, and from 1983-1992
Posted by: lamont | August 30, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Thanks for the information Lamont.
Is there a list of junior Senators that have been President?
Posted by: Mack | August 30, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
It’s just amazing how some people are just “Stuck on Stupid!” With McCain’s age the possibility of him not even completing his first term is very high. This country has serious problems that it is facing, how can you say this woman can do the job? Resolution of our problems will take the intelligence of a deep thinker, and organizer. One who can reach across the isle of the Senate and across the sea to foreign leaders in an effort to rebuild the relationships that have been bruised by the Bush administration? I don’t think an ex-beauty queen fits the bill.
Posted by: y.sister | August 30, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Senator Obama is over-reaching in his quest for the White House. He is not any more qualified than a good actor who can read a teleprompter or a community organizer. He was a Washington Senator for 143 days before declaring his candidacy. He has been a senator for almost 4 years now and still has not written and passed a key piece of legislation to help or protect all American on his own. He likes to embellish his own few achievements. He like to be the STAR. He likes to have the ATTENTION. He must be ADMIRED. He is an EGOMANIAC. He is not fit for the office. HE LIES.
McCain/Palin is the Best Team and the Winning Team.
Posted by: Martin | August 30, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
McCain can no longer claim Country First after this pick. He did this purely for political gains trying to get the female vote. The man is 72 years old and has had cancer several times. I can see him wanting a woman but he could have picked Hutchinson or Snowe. There are alot of qualified women out there. As a woman I am insulted.
Posted by: wlw100 | August 30, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Senator Obama’s and his campaign will take our country backward with more taxes and hand-outs for the irresponsibles. He is as artificial as the makeup on his face and his promises that he is a cure all and fix all for all our problems. Ask an ole timer what it was like in the 1930 when the Great Depression effected every family and business in the country.
OBAMA’S CHANGE–1930 type Depression
OBAMA’S HOPE–I can hand out freebies to my favorite people.
Posted by: Mary | August 30, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Time to cut the apron strings and fend for yourself Obama! You’ve got the new DNC, the AA’s, the young voters and the white guilters behind you! You don’t need Senator Clinton or her supporters, remember? Donna Brazille told us all to get on the train – Alaska here we come! The new democratic party will have to learn to play with the big boys without the old regime that they threw under the bus! Hey – good luck! McCain/Palin08
Posted by: susiewat | August 30, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Why is everything HIllary’s fault/responsibility?
Obama needs to do his OWN outreach to women, which does NOT include using phrases such as “get over it”.
He’s the candidate now, remember? Its HIS to win or lose, not HRC’s.
Posted by: ECHO21 | August 30, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
When you are in the position to be the top heads of our country, who cares if you are a woman or a man.
Obama and Biden should go after Palin on the issues just as they would do a man.
It’s Equal Opportunity, Baby.
We do not need weak, frail “oh please don’t attack me I’m a woman” staring at the face of Putin.
As Hillary Clinton said:
“If you can’t take the heat, get out the Kitchen.
All weak women who can’t handle pressure like Hillary, sit the h_ll down.
Posted by: equal opportunity | August 30, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
I think it’s great that Mc Cain is bringing an outsider in tired of all the good ol boys having lavish parties, spending, having to much time with call girls and out of touch with the middle america just New York, Washington, and Hollywood and they act like the rest of the states are trailer trash. Forget about big business, middle class have to start their own businesses because the fat cats in Washington gave tax cuts to take our jobs overseas, we have to start our own business, small farms, person to person businesses because Russia, China, and India are taking short cuts and putting our health on the line, using chemicals in our food, toothpaste and God knows what else. We have to do what our forfathers did start a business, let those who want to get involved in smoking, drinking, unprotected sex, over eating because they all think the people that are well follow the rules of healthy life styles will pony up and take care of everyone. We have to make choices and Palin is great she wined to no one about her baby, works hard, and her husband is in a union what more could a hard working American want—and she stopped the bridge to no where and saved Americans millions! you go Palin you are the breath of fresh air that Mc Cain promised. No some stale ol Washington fat cat!
Posted by: joyce | August 30, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Yep, that was pretty light, but it’s early. Without a doubt Hillary is going to come out swinging because I’m sure that she, along with millions of other women, are insulted by the Palin selection. This is gonna be good…
Posted by: Julianne | August 30, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
McCain has been monopolizing the statement “he has always put the country first”. Well, after picking Palin, he showed otherwise.
Posted by: Chitra J | August 30, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
I don’t get the Palin selection. I guess evagelical women are used to being subserviant and compliant – and maybe in their world being a hockey mother of 5 is qualifications enough for the vice presidency. In the real world, she’s nothin’ but an obvious campaign gimmick. Putting country first my bootie!
Posted by: Margaret | August 30, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
As we all know, in the end, VP choices don’t matter very much to who gets elected. I think Biden and Sarah Palin are both good VP picks for different reasons (although it does scare me to think Palin could be president… that is just weird…).
But I’m voting for Obama because McCain is a warmonger, and that is just wrong and dangerous for our times. We’ve had 8 years of that way of thinking, and that’s enough. Time for some newer and better ideas. Time for a change.
OBAMA/BIDEN ’08
Posted by: John | August 30, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
I just have to laugh when I see the BObots panicking. So now they start their hatred and name calling and insults. What a wonderful group of people BO has supporting him.
McCain made a great pick and this Democratic is definitely going to vote for the red ticket.
I hope Sarah wipes the floor with Biden. You go girl!
Posted by: WorkingMommy | August 30, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Sarah Palin as president? The rest of the world has been laughing at us for years over our current president. Can you imagine? If we ended up with Sarah Palin for president they would be absolutely wetting themselves.
Posted by: Sarah C. | August 30, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Hillary supporters need to stop whining. Obama beat her fair and square; the problem is she and her supporters felt entitled to the Presidency. Her own arrogance and her inability to muzzle her husband brought her down. Who wanted another term of Bill? Obama was right not to choose her as VP – how could he ever rest knowing Hillary was breathing down his neck and hoping he’d be assassinated? If her supporters vote for McCain out of spite they will get what they deserve — total reversal of everything Hillary fought for. Grow up, PUMAs!!!
As for Palin, most Alaskans can’t believe she was chosen. That should tell you something. This is an insult by McCain – he thinks any woman will do because we women are too dumb to see that policy positions, not genitalia, are what matter.
Posted by: Mary | August 30, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Maybe this new and unique Republican line-up with its support troop of Hillaryites and anti-Barry-ites… will emerge into a new party of possibilities with a refreshing and PLAUSIBLE platform of change!
The DNC is no longer democratic!
It’s nominee was chosen by Selection, not Election!
The Clintons were slandered and in essence, ejected…. until needed.
I CHOOSE THE HIGH ROAD!
HILLARY WAS THE SOLUTION
but
McCain and Palin
and, always:
COUNTRY OVER PARTY!
Posted by: 1 PLUS 1 EQUALS:>>> | August 30, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
For those of you who keep saying Palin is unqualified. Please remember there are a lot of rural and western Americans who feel they have never had a representative who was “qualfified” to deal with issues that are important to them. Palin may very well be the right person at this time. Maybe she can convince the Eastern Elites how silly and uninformed their opposition to drilling in ANWAR is. There is absolutely no negative environmental impact. I’ve been there. I have studied the issue. Elites like Biden who have never been to Alaska qualified? I don’t think so…
Posted by: Bill | August 30, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Well this has energized things. Either way history will be made. I’m in a third party but I’m voting for McCann/Palin now. No guts, no glory.
Posted by: Kate | August 30, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
I am a Hillary supporter, who will not vote for Obama on Nov. 4th. I will not vote McCain either. I will write in Hillary’s name on the ballot because it is allowed in Texas. The DNC and the Media elected Obama. Now they want Hillary to help them out. They treated her inhumane and they will do the same to Palin. If the Media continues to treat Palin like they did Hillary, I just might vote for Palin. I speak for many Teachers in Texas who will never forget how the most experienced woman with Integrity was abandoned by her own Party only to elect someone with shady friends, and no experience. May God Bless Us All, and the DNC.
Posted by: Fishingforthetruth | August 30, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
All Palin`s achiements have been posted…very impressive list…
And if it ever becomes necessary, Palin will have the necessary military advisors and Generals on the ground who she`ll listen too…she`s also a fast-learner, tough as nails, and is every bit the fighter and non-quitter Hillary is…Biden may be the 1st to find this out…the hard way!
She`s also never called Iran a tiny country who poses little threat to the US…like Obama did…only to correct himself within 24 hrs. once he realized his blunder…due to inexperience!
BOTTOM LINE: The inexperienced Obama is at the top of the D ticket…Palin is at the bottom of the R ticket!…America votes for the top of the ticket!
Posted by: justme819 | August 30, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
McCain is crazy like a fox. Obama took age off the table when he picked Biden. He took the ‘outsider’ topic off the table when he picked Biden. Now McCain trumped the experience question. Every time Obama’s camp complains about Palin’s ‘inexperience’ it reminds everyone of his own lack of experience. And McCain gets to remind voters that she’s the #2.
I’m completely comfortable with McCain for 4 years. The Dems control both houses – time for Nancy and Harry to start earning those paychecks. The Dems don’t need the white house to push their agenda – they have the numbers to move compelling legislation. They’ve wasted 2 years so far…let’s get it done.
Posted by: FishMonger | August 30, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Obama has not made history until he wins the presidency. Palin say a good word about Hillary and women of America. Obama and Biden had the bomb dropped on them so now they are frantic. I wouldn’t vote for Obama even if Hillary was on the ticket because I don’t want to see him win. Hillary should be happy there is a women on the ticket even if she is republican. Its time for a women to be president or vice president and I am happy for Palin. As far as experience, what experience does Obama really have besides missing 130 days or more from the senate. Palin was elected Mayor then Governor and was involved with the oil industry. She is a fighter and go head to head with Obama or Biden.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | August 30, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Oh yes, thank you Obama supporters who are trying to convince Hillary supporters with continued insults to vote for BO. Your charming tactics have never worked and they never will so stop with the advice. Make your opinions and we will make ours.
Posted by: irma | August 30, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Let’s crack that ceiling in November America!!! Time for a real change…MCAIN/PALIN 2008′!!!!
Posted by: Amy | August 30, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
w/w100: Hutchinson is too old to be VP. Get a grip. From what I seen of her she looks 10 years older than Hillary. Time for a younger women to be VP and McCain did the right thing.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | August 30, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Amy: You said it. It is time for a women and she is the right women. Hillary was cheated by Obama, Nancy and Dean so now is the time to slap Nancy in the face and send Obama back to the senate.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | August 30, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Michael: I am doing the same as you I am voting McCain/Palin. This will give a good slap in the face to the DNC and believe me they need it. Obama is not and never will be qualified to be president. It was stated on the internet he was studying the speeches of MLK because he didn’t know what to say. Obama couldn’t shine Palin’s shoes when it comes to integrity and experience. She has a very excellent background and I am sure McCain will take her to other countries to get experience. Her and her husband are very active people. They never associated with crooked friends like Obama especially anti-american Ayers. I am shocked that the people of this country would dismiss his background and vote for him anyway.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | August 30, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Davis at 7:31 wrote “It was the “exact same speech” she gave as her acceptance speech yesterday … ”
You ARE joking, right?
Obama has given the same speech for FOUR YEARS. DNC 2004 convention, for his own senate race, Jim Webb’s senate race, then 10,000 times during the primary.
Posted by: Echo21 | August 30, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Obvious CNN gave Obama an easy ride he got all the praises
Posted by: Gloria | August 30, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Sarah C. Why don’t you campaign for president in 2012 since you think Palin doesn’t qualify. Then you can join the ranks of the inexperienced Obama who is lucky he became a senator.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | August 30, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
John: Don’t be afraid if Palin became president because she is a fighter, will not take guff from anyone and would definately know how to handle foreign policy. She is ten times smarter than Obama ever will be and don’t tell her to sit down. She will go head to head with Biden or Obama and let them know which way the wind is blowing.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | August 30, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Judging a book by its cover will get the Demos in trouble. While on the surface, the lack of experience triggers a “hairline” reaction, it is typical sexism at its best. Men cannot see their lack of experience. Their confidence and judgement is “resume” material. Yet a woman with even Hillary’s experience is not qualified to lead this country. Barack, first a reminder…be careful not to focus on the age discrimination issue with McCain. In your own words, politicans offer themselves the best medical services, and the wealthy also get the best. So for an out of touch wealthy Senator like McCain, he’s medically covered on both fronts. I expect he’ll run for a second term.
Second, walk carefully Obama, for I as a “PUMA” will NOT vote for you if you think focusing on a #2 person’s lack of experience overrides your #1 lack of experience, sexism and ignorance. Her credentials far outweigh yours.
And for the media who think a mother is not qualified to be VP because of the job demands… walk carefully….She is America. A working mother juggling lots of responsibilities. I for one think her life will be much easier as VP. Afterall, she’ll have an entourage to handle all her family matters.
Sarah, I realized Thursday night what this country needs is a fresh face (Barack — you are NOT fresh anymore). Go shake up this government!
Posted by: sue | August 30, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Yup, it’s always Clinton’s fault. Obama declines to take a VP that would have guaranteed the election in favor of an old war-monger and it’s up to Clinton now to save his bacon.
Sen. Joe Biden a politician who, as champion loudmouth and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was calling for an invasion of Iraq in 1998, two years before there was a President George W. Bush. In 2002, when Bush demanded Congress give him powers to wage war against Iraq, Chairman Biden was Bush’s biggest Democratic ally. Biden depicted Bush as a man of peace, declaring, “at each pivotal moment, he has chosen a course of moderation and deliberation.” That course led to a war that is now deep into its fifth year – but that should not worry Joe Biden, who said, back in 2002, that the U.S. was “committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after….”
The selection of Biden was doubly offensive, applauded as it is by ObamaFanBoyz, who during the primary castigated all who voted for the war….well, not everyone, not Kerry and obviously not Biden. No, the only one to be smeared by Obama’s minions was Clinton. Typical boyzclub politics as usual. Looking like? More like emphatically are.
Posted by: Mike | August 30, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Hillary said the right thing. She should never be used by someone like Obama. Obama always uses others to do his dirty work. His supporters are the most mean people I have seen on any blogs. Except the abortion issue, Palin is a good candidate. Obama camp should stop using double standard on another female candidate! They were mean and nasty to push Hillary out, now they are attacking Palin. All sounds familar. Now they say Palin is not experienced enough. But she has more executive experiences than Obama. Where were they in the past 18 months? Why didn’t question Obama’s qualification? So So double standards!!!
Posted by: Jenny | August 30, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
I think that Senator Clinton has bent over backwards enough for Obama and his cult of followers. I think it was wonderful that she congratulated Palin as a woman who was able to move up. I NEVER would have stopped the roll call if I were her and I NEVER would have given half the speech she gave at the convention for Obama! NEVER!!!!!!! She owed him nothing! He owed her an apology for sexually bashing her throughout the campaign and for targeting her supporters as being misfits! Well, there are a lot of us misfits and we will be voting for McCain in the fall. I woudn’t have even done what she did for Obama. He’s just not worth it! He’s nothing, no experience, crooked real estate deals, associates with thugs throughout his career, and you think Hillary owes him anything? Pfffsssttt! We are just sorry that she gave such a good speech for him and that Bill Clinton endorsed that scroungel. We didn’t want him to and we didn’t want Hillary to provide any assistance to him whatsover. This was all a result of the left wing of the Democratic party, bending their arms behind their backs. They won’t be able to bend all of our arms behind our backs come November! Enjoy the bounce Obama because it will be the last one you have. The next bounce will be when the bottom drops out in November and John McCain is elected President!!!! I can’t wait! He may have been a novelty for the Dem party and developed a cult like following, but, the rest of us can think for ourselves. We don’t need Obama and the left wing of the dems or the right of the dems, which I may add have unfairly demonized Hillary and Bill Clinton, telling us who to vote for, etc. Good riddance to bad rubbish Obama and his followers!
Posted by: Mary Anne | August 30, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Mary -
Every time you and your like call Hillary supporters “whiners” or tell them to “grow up” you disenfranchise and push another worthy vote out of the Obama column and into the McCain camp.
If McCain wins, I dare say you and your compatriots will get the opportunity to point fingers and lay blame by taking a hard look in the mirror and be forced to swallow a much needed and overdue lesson in civility.
Posted by: Amy T | August 30, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Why the heck should Hillary lift one more finger for Obama, and why should she diss another woman to benefit the ultimate disser of women. Hell, no. Hillary made a perfectly appropriate remark, she said the policies of Mc Cain and Palin are in the wrong direction, and I hope she says nothing more. BHO didn’t need her, according to him. Wait til he sees how much he did need her. He is a fool.
Posted by: Hillary Supporter | August 30, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Rick: And Obama is no John McCain. Hillary Clinton was first lady then senator. Palin was mayor then govenor and now VP. That is a big jump for a woman that’s only 44 years of age. Hillary has been in politics as a young girl and was republican at that time. I believe she switched when she married Bill Clinton. Both Hillary and Palin are smart in their own ways and Palin would make a good VP. Especially strong enough to go head to toe with Biden or Obama.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | August 30, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
WorkingMommy: You got that right. I would like to see Palin in a debate with Obama or Biden. Obama and Biden couldn’t win debates and Obama failed on the forum interview. They are the worst democratic candidates this country ever had campaigning for president and vice president. John McCain and Palin both would make them look like beginners. I am voting for McCain. Its time for a women to be president or vice president.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | August 30, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Obama/Biden
One house
One spouse
Posted by: james | August 30, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
I don’t trust Obama one bit especially after I heard his speech today in ohio did not sound real he was so Obama is to phoney like can’t anyone see that. I can read his mind.
McCain stands for real unity, McCain stands for Unity and Sarah Palin will unify all for unity. McCain is the change for unity.
Posted by: Gloria | August 30, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
HOPE:
“I’m pretty sure Obama will give Hillary the place she deserves if he becomes president.”
________________
How can he do that when the position she deserves…. is PRESIDENT!”
Hillary would have been the solution
but, unable to have her,
then:
MCCAIN AND PALIN
COUNTRY BEFORE BROKEN DOWN DNC!
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY
Posted by: america*centric | August 30, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Sarah Palin for Unity she is real life for life and Truth and love.
Posted by: Gloria | August 30, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
The “fraud” Sarah Palin is involved in is fighting the good old boys’ network in Alaska when the state troopers refused to fire her sister’s abusive husband. Unless think it’s OK to taser an 11-year old child, drive your police car while drunk, and threaten the life of your father-in-law. So go ahead and keep talking about this – Sarah Palin is a hero to every abused woman and child in this country for whom our system of governmental protection has often failed, and I salute her.
Posted by: Grammy Barb
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Grammy Barb, dear, how can you give sarah Palin the CREDIT FOR FIRING her former brother-in-law, when she, herself, CLAIMS SHE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS BEING FIRED?? SO, looks like you are trying to make a hero out of someone who isnt, for something she DID NOT DO, but the same something YOU say she did! Looks like the woman was abusing her power which seems to be the norm for the Republicans!
Posted by: NinaK | August 30, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Sarah Palin: a young John McCain
in a dress.
Posted by: anon | August 30, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Gee, not vote for Palin just because she is a woman? Why not? African Americans turned out in the 90% range to vote for Obama just because he was an African American, and it was deemed to be all right because they were just embracing their righteouse sense of ethnic pride. Why shouldn’t I embrace my own rightgeous sense of gender pride? If its good for the goose, its good for the gander!!!! You better beleive I am voting for Palin, for no other reason than she is a woman. Me and a whole lot of other women. Remember the old song.. I am woman, hear me roar!
Posted by: jdona | August 30, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Mommy Hillary does not have to utter another word until after the election. Time for everyone in the media and Obama’s team to “get over it”. Mommy Hillary has a headache is going to lay down.
Posted by: Jim | August 30, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Palin is an extreme reactionary
just like McCain her good looks
notwithstanding.
Posted by: anon | August 30, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
I voted for Hillary. I thought she had more experience. I wanted someone to care about healthcare, Global Warming and the economy. Obama picked Biden which was good for me. Palin is not a substitution for Hillary supporter. She seems to be McCain pick to secure Republican far right.
Posted by: issues only | August 30, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
When it came time to ACT and not just speak Barack Obama played it safe and picked an establishment figure in Biden. McCain, on the other hand, picked a fellow maveric and reformer.
If this is any indication of what their respective presidencies would be like you’re only going to see REAL change from McCain.
ACTIONS BEFORE SPEECHES
Posted by: JA | August 30, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Mary said: “Hillary supporters need to stop whining. Obama beat her fair and square” – Hey, tell me all about this “fair and square”, I’m all ears. Give me all the specifics, please, plus all the specific examples that the media was NOT biased. I would absolutely prefer a democrat, but with all the medias and DNC have played out all along, with the fact that today’s Obama is a 90% creation of the stupid media, yet to make it worse, he is so darn arrogant, so I won’t vote for Obama regardless of what policies he has.
I look down upon and resent those who follows their stars and shed tears when they see them in person, that only shows they have low self-esteems, and/or have not much educations, and/or are too immature, and it is pathetic! Are stars better and smarter than others? NO! Do they work harder and contribute more to the society than others do? Not necessarily! How many stars are of good quality? How many of them are basically trash alike with low moral levels?
Don’t support someone largely because he or she is your star! Honestly, I happen to be very talented in language and speaking, I control the tones and body languages naturally well. So if I were given a well written speech, I could easily do as good job as Obama. Because I know this very well, that’s why I would never cast my vote to someone based on his speech alone. All good speeches can be done by any OK actors!
Posted by: tiger | August 30, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Take high road on Sarah Palin. Its still Obama/Biden vs McCain/Bush/Cheney.
Hillary and Bill did great at the convention. She will always be respected and admired. At some point she will responsed.
Notice that they also gave Sarah a nickname Barracuda. Bullet and McCain would think like that. They love nicknames while the voters don’t care about such tactics. Voters want to know the about the issues
People will pay attention to the Biden and Palin debate. Hoping it will be Barracuda vs Scrappy Joe from Scranton. Biden avoid that and debate the issues. Speak in a softer firm voice. Your a Senator so this will be a civil debate. Leave the fighters voice for the Republican smear machine.
Voters are more concerned about the real debate between Obama vs McCain.
Posted by: Annie | August 30, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Why the hell should she ..
Hillary, you have done more than you need to … Let Obama lose …. You have to say what you have to in public but we will NEVER VOTE OBAMA and you should know that … OBAMA DOES NOT DESERVE THE PRIVILEGE TO BE OUR PRESIDENT ..
And what has Obama done to help you with your campaign debt? ZERO right?
So the Hell with Obama and all he stands for
Go back to New York, Hillary, and take care of yourself, Bill and Chelsea. They are far more important to you than anything Obama can ever deliver …
I would sooner have even a President Palin than Obama …
Palin has more executive experience and she is running only for VP … Obama has NO EXPERIENCE and he has to nerve to want to be President ..
Posted by: GoBackToIllinos | August 30, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Jake asks, “Will she rise to the task?”
I say, don’t bother.
Hillary supporters wanted a liberal woman to break the glass ceiling. Obama vetoed that, even for veep. So now it is time for 2-3 million of us, enough to have the power to change the election, to break the glass ceiling with our second choice, a conservative woman. Obama/ByThen
We have the power to dump Obama, and that is exactly what we will do.
Posted by: sherry | August 30, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
I am sure Biden will be nothing but a gentlemen and a professional at the debate he is a class act. Obama on the other hand is a phoney and a fraud, and yes his experience at running anything (including his own campaign) falls way short compared to Gov. Palin’s executive experience. I am far more concerned about Obama being President than Palin being VP.
Posted by: Jim | August 30, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
We have the power. Obama/ByThen
Please vote McCain/Palin
- a Hillary voter and caucuser
Posted by: sherry | August 30, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
MCCAIN did the right thing in picking Palin. Obama has 92% of the Black vote …
MCCAIN needs his FULL BASE to vote for him in November … Good work MCCAIN …
It is so important for MCCAIN to win in November …
I cannot imagine a KNOW NOTHING and QUESTIONABLE OBAMA and a DO NOTHING Congress led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid running our great nation …
Puma, 28% Hillary supporters, Republicans, we need to win in November. All this blogging is senseless rhetoric if we lose in November … Results is what matters … words without results is a waste of time …
So let us get everyone out there to vote in November.
Thanks
Posted by: WinInNovember | August 30, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
jdona wrote:
African Americans turned out in the 90% range to vote for Obama just because he was an African American, and it was deemed to be all right because they were just embracing their righteouse sense of ethnic pride.
__________________________
How soon you forget that 90% of African Americans VOTED FOR BILL CLINTON, both terms.
Seems to have also slipped your mind that African Americans RALLIED BEHIND BILL CLINTON during/after his impeachment scandal.
So, when African Americans don’t jump behind a Clinton, it’s an ethnic issue without a thought about policy issues between the candidates.
BUT YOU CAN BET THIS: Had Hillary gotten the nomination, 90% of African Americans would have casted their vote in a heartbeat. And you know it.
Posted by: kate | August 30, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
This will finally motivate Hillary to go all out for Obama — she does NOT want somebody to come out of nowhere and make history as the first woman vice-president.
She will hit the trail hard for Obama — that’s all we can ask for.
Posted by: Brendan | August 30, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
“As for Palin, most Alaskans can’t believe she was chosen. That should tell you something.” – Hey, dear Mary, wow, there is really something magic in you! Can u show us the survey you have done in Alaska? Besides, “can’t believe” doesn’t mean they are not happy. Don’t you even know that? Can u explain why she receives over 80% (some reported above 90%) job approval rating? Another Obama supporter who doesn’t seem to have attended the elementary school. Gees, how embarassing!
Posted by: tiger | August 30, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Pelosi and Dean made a big political mistake, trying to call the nominating election early. In the end, Hillary won the most votes, but by then the bosses had their way when they gave it to Obama early.
I say, vote with one lever, and send the Democratic party bosses the simple message: This is the year we are breaking the glass ceiling, and this is the year we are going to stick it to those bosses who robbed Hillary of that priviledge.
McCain/Palin
Posted by: sherry | August 30, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Ms. Palin’s selection isn’t going to make one bit of difference in the long run because the Republican campaign is going to self-destruct simply because of her selection.
McCain would fare far better if he had selected another candidate. Ms. Palin’s qualifications are not ones that would serve this nation well in the event she had to assume McCain’s duties.
Posted by: George | August 30, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
George…The selection of Obama would not serve this nation well in a time of crisis!
Posted by: Jim | August 30, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
I would love to hear Hillary debate Palin. But she might be called a bully too.
Posted by: Kathy | August 30, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Hi guys, remember me? I gave a big speech the other day? Remember? Even though I said “I” 1143 times in the speech, it really was all about YOU! Remember when I said that? How selfless am I? Remember when I said I am my brothers keeper? Well good news, I just sent my brother $1 so he could take the month of September off! How awesome am I?… I mean how awesome are YOU!
Posted by: Barakulus at the Barakopolis | August 30, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Enough about Hillary. Hillary has done more then any candidate who lost the nomination in the past such as Kennedy who wouldn’t even shake Carter’s hand.
Obama has the nomination and selected his VP and they’re on their own now.
Why does she need to take care of him?
McCain saw an opening to reach not just women (because she won’t pull that many Clinton supporters in with her positions on social issues) but those blue collar and rural voters Obama has and will continue to have trouble reaching. Obama brought on Biden to compensate for his own lack of foreign policy and to attract blue collar
voters, so he shouldn’t need Hillary to go out and fight his battles. Let Joe do it, he’s the attack dog.
Posted by: alpaig52 | August 30, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Bloggers claiming to be
Hillary supporters are hard
to decipher.
Didn’t they hear what she said
at the convention?
“No way. No how. No McCain.
Barack Obama is my candidate.
And he must be our president.”
Posted by: anon | August 30, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Why would Hillary debate Palin? Remember, Obama picked Biden, so I say, Obama/ByThen.
Posted by: sherry | August 30, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
This election is not about Hillary. It is about us. It is about if women have the courage to claim power over a disrespectful Obama. That is why I encourage every self-respecting Hillary voter, both women and men, to vote McCain/Palin. The issues are not as important as Obama’s disrespect. We, not all 18 million, but a few million of us, are going to send Obama to defeat. It feels really good. Please come join us.
Posted by: sherry | August 30, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Why would Hillary waste her time going after a right wing nut job like Palin? The woman wants creationism taught in public schools and thinks global warming is a natural occurence. She belongs to a party that doesn’t believe in equal pay for women. She says her husband is a union member but she belongs to the party that has disempowered more unions than any other in history. She is under investigation for having the safety commisioner fired because he wouldn’t fire her ex-brother-in-law. She is definitely not a person I want to be running this country.
Posted by: JoAnne | August 30, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
“BUT YOU CAN BET THIS: Had Hillary gotten the nomination, 90% of African Americans would have casted their vote in a heartbeat. And you know it.”
That must be the world’s biggest lie.
I am black and I find it hard to believe that 90% of blacks would have voted for Hillary “in a heartbeat” if she had gotten the nomination. Obama Supporters trashed her and Bill so bad that the Republicans did not have to say a word. I would say, as a black person, that 70% of blacks (at least) voted for Obama because he was black and no other reason. There could not have been any OTHER reason, because no one knows anything about him. Obama’s senatorial records, medical records and educational records are all missing.
Remember, most of Obama’s Supporters labeled her and Bill racist for saying Jesse Jackson won SC and that LBJ helped to get the Civil Rights Bill enacted. Black media helped to support that lie – I know, because I listen to it, watch it and read it.
Then, his Supporters turned around and called anyone who didn’t support him racist. You all did a real good job of that. So good, that now, that is one of the reasons why Obama is going to lose this election.. Don’t blame Hillary and Bill, blame yourselves.
I, too, will be one of those people who will not be voting for Obama. My last action as a Democrat will be to pull the lever for John McCain and Sarah Palin and send Obama, the fraud, along with his missus, all the way back to Chicago to the house Rezko helped to buy. I will be leaving the Democratic Party to the “new” Democrats. I think it will be at least 90% black. Good luck.
PUMA!
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 30, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Hey Sherry..you do know that Palin called Hillary a “whiner”, don’t you? I think she’s the one who was disrespectful. Obama was never disrespectful to Hillary.
Posted by: DG | August 30, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Obama and the DNC did not want to deal with Hillary. They were so sure all Hillary’s supportes would move to Obama therefore if was not necessary to add Hillary as the VP. Surprise Obama and DNC…..we are walking.
Posted by: willie |
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Willie, just where did you get the idea Senator Obama, his supporters, and the DNC were so sure we were going to get Hilliary’s supporters whether or not he chose her as his VP?? Everybody goes around boasting about Hilliary’s 18 million supporters, well how about Senator Obamas 18 MILLION PLUS supporters? Don’t we count? Are you saying ONLY Hill’s supporters count? Furthermore, the number of Hillary’s supporters to belong to PUMA and those other such groups are far short of the 18 millions who voted for her. They ARE the intelligent and smart men and women who would have liked to see her win; but who recognize her policies are in line with Senator Clintons; while McCain’s are 180 degress to the RIGHT of Hilliary’s and Obama’s policies and stances, and WILL vote to put a DEMOCRAT in the White House. I belief a majority of Americans are sick and tired of being sick and tired have having to put up with the last eight years of everything negative the Republicans could throw at us to ruin our economy, threaten us with foreclosures, and downright treating us like we are a bunch of cattle going to slaughter!! If WE, THE PEOPLE do not put a halt to this downward trend by electing McCain, then we will all be slaughtered in one way or another—through war, or through foreclosures, through starvation (high cost of food), or through lack of health care or all of these together!! WE, THE PEOPLE CANNOT AND WILL NOT ENTRUEST OUR COUNTRY TO MCCAIN AND THE REPUBLICANS FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS!!!
Posted by: NinaK | August 30, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Mommy Hillary has done everything asked her by Nancy, Barry, and little john kerry, I think its time they stand up to that mean, nasty Gov. Pain and Senater McCain themselves.Mommy Hillary is going to go soak in the tub now and I hope she locks the door!
Posted by: Jim | August 30, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Local politics in Alaska is different then making then transition to the national stage. I could see why McCain chose Sarah who helps his conservative base. Sarah is the opposite of Hillary on issues. Classic Republican vs Democrat contrasts. Hillary did rock the house at the convention.
The question remains is Alaska ready for a change too. Right now Obama leads in Alaska by about 5 or 6 percentage points. If Alaska goes for Obama in 08 that would be one of the major stories of this election. If Ethan Berkowitz and Mark Begich win along with Obama then Alaska will be a player on the National level.
Posted by: Bobby | August 30, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Obama will have a good senate career, continuing in January.
Posted by: sherry | August 30, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Obama did not offer the veep job, to Hillary, and that was disrespectful, not just to Hillary, but to her supporters.
Obama made a political decision, and he said it, that Hillary supporters had no where else to go. I believe he will get a majority of Hillary voters. But ah, not enough of us for him to win. Too bad, he is so stupid politically, But what do you expect from someone who never won a contested election. At least Palin has already done that, and probably will win the one in 9 weeks..
Posted by: sherry | August 30, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
I have heard so many negative comments about Sarah Palin from the Obama posters. I think they may be a little scared. It seems that they are not ready to allow women to break the glass ceiling. Maybe now it is the republicans’ turn to embrace change and reform. Both McCain and Palin have always been reformers. About Palin’s experience, she has obviously held an executive office which is more than any of the three men candidates and has shown more experience than Obama. I prefer the experience at the top of the ticket than the bottom. For those saying what if McCain dies, what if Obama is incapacitated? Will the country have Biden as a president when he has barely gotten out of Iowa with either of his presidential runs? We would end up with a president that noone wanted in the first place!
Posted by: mccollegemom | August 30, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Obama not choosing Hillary for VEEP was another instance of bad judgment on his part.
Just like saying her supporters “will get over it”
The entry of Palin has totally changed the dynamics of this race. I bet Nancy, Dean, Brazile, Obama and Axelrod spent a sleepless night last night. Now what are they going to do???? :D
Obama has lost.
PUMA!
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 30, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
For a brief moment in time, I started to feel sorry for Obama and considered a sympathy vote because I like Joe. And then I realized I had lost my mind. I immediately took action. I ordered my McCain/Palin08 t-shirts and am looking forward to wearing them. $7,000,000.00 and counting. lol
Posted by: Kitty | August 30, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Obama is doing everything he can to put down Palin, just as he did Hillary. He is trying to portray her as being as lacking in experience as he is.
It’s not a good argument. He is running for President and she is only running for VP. A candidate for VP is supposed to be less qualified than a candidate for President.
Point #2 if she is lacking in experience in foreign policy and has no more than Obama, which appears not to be the case, you go back to point #1; she is not supposed to be as experienced in foreign policy as the Presidential candidate. So what is Obama’s excuse for not having any more than his opposition’s VP candidate?
Point #3 is that Sarah probably has a better handle on energy independence that even John McCain does. Obama hasn’t begun Kindergarten on this one.
Point #4 is that Sarah has a track record of reform against ineffective, wasteful and corrupt government spending. On this score, Obama should be worried. He not only has no experience and no accomplishments solving this problem, he has been a cause of the problem on all three scores. He has been a dud as a legislator, spends other people’s money like a drunken sailor and has had an association with a fellow on his way to prison for corruption that resulted in his ending up in a house that was way beyond his means at the time.
If you give Obama the best score possible on experience, he may tie her on one and she blows him away on two others. Two out of three ain’t bad. Especially when she’s running for VP, not President.
Maybe Obama thought it would be easier to beat on a woman than on a veteran. Wrong, big ears. This woman will feed you to a polar bear.
Go back to your level of competence and don’t come back until you accomplish something.
Posted by: ragnar30066 | August 31, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
I see you still have nothing better to do than fan flames that don’t exist.
Did you miss the part of the convention where it went well?
Give Hillary some credit. She’s knows what she’s doing. That’s why the Obama campaign backed off it’s initial statements and congratulated Palin.
Let Hillary show the woman some respect before she knifes her. :-)
Posted by: Stephanie | August 31, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
Stefanie – Surely youre not that naive to believe that the Clintons were at all sincere in their endorsemnet of the backstabbing Obama and his dem puppeteers? Hillarys words. “John McCain has a lifetime of experience,, Barack Obama hasa speech he gave in 2002″ Bill Clinton “They played the race card on me”. The Clintons swallowed their pride, and flat out lied for the sake of a party who has already selected their nominee months ago.
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Stephanie – I think it would be a big mistake for Hillary to knife Sarah. If anything she should knife her backstabbing party. Deanm, Pelosi, Reid, Obama etc. Sahrah did nothing to Hillary.
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
this is how she is supposed to respond SO SHE DOESN’T SOUND BITER AT ANOTHER WOMAN USURPING HER LEGACY.
wait two days.
Posted by: mm | August 31, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
This election is not about Hillary. It is about us. It is about if women have the courage to claim power over a disrespectful Obama. That is why I encourage every self-respecting Hillary voter, both women and men, to vote McCain/Palin. The issues are not as important as Obama’s disrespect. We, not all 18 million, but a few million of us, are going to send Obama to defeat. It feels really good. Please come join us.
Posted by: sherry
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Sherry, how very sad that you do not finds the ISSUES as important as respect. Wow! McCain has NO respect for Hilliary, yet you are voting for him? Palin has NO respect for Hilliary, yet you are voting for her??
Looks like neither the issues nor respect are important to you! Hilliary’s and Obama’s policies and issures are nearly identical; McCain’s policies and issues are entirely different from Hillary’s and Obamas and certainly do NOT benefit women. Recently he voted AGAINST EQUAL PAY FOR WOMEN! Is this what you and others like yourself really want? Republican leadership that doesn’t care whether or not you get equal pay for equal work as your male counterparts?? In other words, you and Johnny are doing the very same job for the very same company at the very same level, and Johnny gets paid $15.00 an hour while you are only getting $9.00 an hour, you think that IS FAIR TO YOU when in fact YOU KNOW IT is NOT FAIR?? Yet, you are willing to put the Republicans in office for another four years??? Figure it out, $15.00 minus $9.00 is $6.00 more that Johnny is getting than you are, multiply that times 8 hours a day, that comes to $48.00 more he is getting per day. Now multiply that $6.00 times 40 hours a week and you find Johnny is getting paid $160.00 more per week, than you are; multiply the $6.00 times 160 hours (4 weeks) and Johnny has made $960.00 MORE THAN YOU HAVE in one month! Now multiply $960.00 times 12 months and Johnny has made $11,520.00, and add $480.00 (half of $960.00 for two exta weeks in the year) and Johnny has made a FULL $12,000.00 MORE THAN YOU HAVE IN ONE YEAR!! This is exactly what John McCain voted against!!! John McCain WANTS TO MAKE SURE WOMEN CONTINUE TO GET UNDERPAID. I don’t know about the rest of you ladies, but I sure do NOT like Johnny getting paid a WHOLE $12,000 more a year than I am getting paid while we are both DOING THE SAME EXACT JOB, AT THE VERY SAME LEVEL, FOR THE VERY SAME COMPANY!! WHY does McCain believe Johnny should get paid more than YOU?? Are YOU less of a person than Johnny because you are a female?? Does McCain believe YOU are not doing the job as well as Johnny because you are a female? Just WHY does McCain believe we are not worthy of EQUAL PAY?? Ladies, this is called Prejudice!!
Posted by: NinaK | August 31, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Palin should hire Axelrod. If he can almost convince us the other night that we were watching Obama’s inaguration rather then the acceptance of his nomination then he could take Palin and make her look Presidential too.
Posted by: alpaig52 | August 31, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Ragnor, I don’t know that Pilan is all that against corruption in hte leadership in Alaska. She, herself, is being investigated for misuse of power!! Also, aren’t there a good number of Alaskan politicians who are connected with oil companies that have been indicted for taking millions in bribes from the oil companies?? How about Senator Stevens, his brother, and Stevens’son?? Alaskan politicians are very corrupt! How much of kickback will Pilan be getting for approving oil company demands from the state of Alaska?? Please do not forget, the Republicans are in bed with the oil companies….that is exactly WHY McCain wants to drill here, drill now!!
Posted by: NinaK | August 31, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
“Does McCain believe YOU are not doing the job as well as Johnny because you are a female? Just WHY does McCain believe we are not worthy of EQUAL PAY?? Ladies, this is called Prejudice!!”
Oh please! Can the fake concern about what Hillary’s Supporters want.
Her Supporters have “gotten over it” and moved on to support candidates that will not be calling us racist, uneducated and ignorant. Respect happens to be a BIG issue with us and we are going where we can get it. We are now supporting the McCain/Palin ticket.
Toodles!
PUMA!
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 31, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
For all those McCain supporters that feel he has made such a great choice, doesn’t it bother you that he has only meet this woman ONE time and has not worked with her in any way politically!!! Please women and former Hilary supporters, don’t be so naive to believe that McCain really believes in the credentials of this woman to be VP. She was only chosen because she is a woman and would be no more then a token in his administration.
Posted by: nns | August 31, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
I am a woman and I don’t vote gender. I vote policy.
It doesn’t matter that Sarah Palin is female. She could have 11 children, run 10 miles a day and be able to swap from blackberry to breast pump while hunting for moose and I would never vote for her.
Voting for her would be voting against every principle I stand for. It would be voting against everything that Hillary Clinton has been fighting for.
The Republican Party and John McCain do not believe in Equal Pay for Equal Work. They do not believe that women should have the right to choose what to do with their bodies.
This is not a pro-woman party or platform and as long as men like John McCain are members of this party, the 18 million cracks in that glass ceiling will be nothing more than window dressing.
This is the most important election of my life. The Supreme Court, our standing in the world, the future of our economy, our schools, our planet will come down to this vote.
This is not about girl power. It’s Republican politics as usual and women voters should take heed. Palin isn’t here to play to Hillary voters, she’s here to play to the Republican base. Guns, G-d and Gays.
I won’t get suckered by peep toe shoes. I am way too smart for that.
Proud member of Women for Obama.
Posted by: miami | August 31, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
I think the choice of Palin was more complex then just targeting Clinton supporters. Most Clinton supporters will not vote for Palin based on the positions of a McCain/Palin ticket.
Some women are insulted to think McCain thinks women would vote for any women
but I get rather insulted that the Dems continue to use scare tactics around Roe
vs. Wade. Despite what the Obama camp may think, women are as worried about the economy and Iraq as much as our male counterparts. Not all of us are one issue voters. Obama leads among women with the exception of older women and blue collar voters of both genders.
Palin has invigorated the conservative Republican base, appeals to the christian right and will have great appeal to blue collar voters. She’s a card carrying union member, hunts, fishes, snowmobiles, has held blue collar jobs, a working mom, she doesn’t talk like a politician and she’ll look as good on the cover of people as Obama does. She makes Obama look and sound like an entrenched career politician. With Biden by Obama’s side he looks even more like the same old politics and his speech the other night was the same old rehash of liberal rhetoric I’ve heard for years and years, granted he does a better job at it though. Biden was brought on to compensate for Obama’s lack of foreign policy credentials and to attract blue collar voters. I’m a big admirer of Biden’s and despite his riding the bus home every night and his being a nice guy, he’s still a politican whose spent almost 30 years in the halls of Washington. Given McCain’s well-deserved reputation for having been a maverick in the past, the addition of Palin on his ticket makes this ticket look like the change ticket rather then Obama’s. Her reputation and committment as a reformist reinforces that and in the debates she’s best to keep drumming that in every opportunity she gets- that she’s the candidate of change, reform , new politics and the Washington outsider.
I doubt there’s any way she could out debate Biden on the issues on a National level but she can reinforce what some of the pundits were saying the other night about Obama- that perhaps someone with less experience and who’s not an insider would actually bring a fresh, new perspective to the issues of the day. The majority of the people support off-shore drilling, want the oil industry to be taxed more and want relief from the energy crunch. She supports drilling, has increased taxes on the oil industry in her State and has no problem standing up to them and took those revenues and gave it back to the people of Alaska in the form of a $1200 energy rebate check. Her pick goes beyond just attracting women.
Posted by: alpaig52 | August 31, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex”
Susan B. Anthony
PUMA!
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 31, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
LeeLee: When you do vote for McCain remember to ask him what will he and Palin willing to do for you, (unless you don’t care) because after all people have fought hard and long for women’s right to vote now we’ll see in you and the rest of PUMA if that struggle was worthwhile, and keep in mind there are many men in PUMA too and they dont’t have anything to lose regarding Roe vs Wade.
Posted by: vote4peace | August 31, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
During the Democratic primaries
Palin called Hillary a whiner and
told her to drop out of the race
because Obama’s delegate lead was
insurmountable.
Why was it her business to pop
off about what went on in the
Democratic contest?
Now she talks about Hillary like
she has known her all her life
and wants Hillary supporters to
come out and vote for her in
November.
Posted by: anon | August 31, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
I’m insulted by some of these comments, mostly by women who think Palin was only chosen for her gender. Can’t a woman have a family, a career and brains? All these Obama supporters who boo-hooed because Hillary didn’t get it and you have a VP candidate that is even more experienced and you slam her. And all the Obama whiners who complained McCain is a woman-hater and he chose a strong, all-american woman as his VP, and you bash her.
I feel like I was in 2008 on Thurs and by Fri it was back to 1950. Make up your mind already.
Posted by: Kay | August 31, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
“LeeLee: When you do vote for McCain remember to ask him what will he and Palin willing to do for you, (unless you don’t care) because after all people have fought hard and long for women’s right to vote now we’ll see in you and the rest of PUMA if that struggle was worthwhile, and keep in mind there are many men in PUMA too and they dont’t have anything to lose regarding Roe vs Wade.”
We are not concerned with Roe v Wade – that is a bogus argument. I remember well the Women’s Lib movement and all they fought for and gained. However, the Democratic Party has set it back about 50 years with its misogynist treatment of Hillary and her supporters.
I can live with 4 more years of the Republican Party, I will not live with 4 years of Obama who was selected by the DNC and is totally unqualified for the job of the President of these United States. As he put it so well himself, “that is above my pay grade.”
PUMA!
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 31, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
Just because he has picked a
woman as his running mate,
McCain is not any less of a
misogynist.
This was a calculated political
decision. Keep the far right
happy in his own party and
try to woo still disaffected
Hillary supporters.
Posted by: anon | August 31, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
LeeLee: I sure hope you’re not a woman talking nonsense like that. When Obama wins PUMA will be history and fade out of existence, I can hardly wait for this embarrassing group to disband because any group that’s willing to spit on the sacrifices many made for women’s right to vote don’t desire to be mentioned of again.
Posted by: vote4peace | August 31, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
I am a life-long democratic woman who supported Hillary Clinton along with 18 million others. I keep hearing Democratic strategists declaring that we “disgruntled Hillary supporters” will not vote for McCain simply because he chose a woman to be his VP. But this is NOT TRUE!
Now what Americans needs to know is that I along with thousands of other Hillary supporters WILL be voting for McCain and Sarah Palin because we WANT to see a woman as VP and voters like myself see it as a brilliant move by McCain to reach out to us women voters.
The TVangelists threaten us of Roe V Wade being overturn but fail to mention that both Bush administrations were Pro-Life and women still have the right to chose.
We are sending a message to our Democratic Party leadership like Pelosi and Reed that THEY are not in charge of chosing our Nominee, WE the people are!
When Obama began winning caucuses Delegates were told to vote for Obama early in the Election, then when delegates had second thoughts they were threatened! When Colorado Democratic Party leader Billy Compton intimidated Sacha Millstone asking her to resign as a Delegate because she had second thoughts on Obama was outrageous! When the sexist/racist Emil Jones called Delmarie Cobb who supported Hillary an “Uncle Tom” infuriates us women!
We women are not going to “fall in line” behind Obama who has less experience then Palin in public office. At least with McCain and Palin they have proven that they can actually bring about change in our government and not just talk about it. As a woman I can’t beieve that it is the Republican Party who chose a woman as their VP. It shows the sexism that exists in our current Democratic Party and it is disgraceful!
I hope that the media will politely correct the assertions of the Democratic Strategists who dare suggest that the 18 million Hillary voters are going to back Obama because it’s not happening now, and our numbers are growing everyday to bring our vote to McCain and Palin!
Posted by: Alicia | August 31, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
No body is calling Pilan names, we are merely pointing out her lack of experience in various venues of governance. She hereself stated she has not paid attention to the war in Iraq! In my estimation, EVERY GOVERNOR MUST PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT’S GOING ON IN IRAQ!! After all, aren’t our military servicemen and women FROM EACH AND EVERY STATE IN OUR UNION?? AREN’T GOVERNORS THE “HEADS OF THEIR STATES” SHOULDN’T THEY KNOW WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON AROUND THE WORLD AND HOW IT AFFECTS THE UNITED STATES, YES, ALL 50 STATES?? The Iraq War has had a tremendous and negative effect on all of us and this woman has not been paying attention to the Iraq War??? And the republicans think she is ready to be president if, God forbid, McCain gets elected and he dies within the first year of that presidency? ANYTHING can happen to McCain—heart attack, anuerisms(sp), a fatal car accident, a fall, you name it, which would incapacitate him or kill him, and this woman would become the president? And please do not lie about Senator Obama not having legislative experience, he has 12 years of legislative experience and substantive bills which he authored, co-authored, sponsored, or co-sponsored, some of which have become law or awaiting votes! A major of a small villiage in Alaska and the governor of the smallest population in the USA does not a vice president make, and much less a president! Guess McCain plans on his VP not being involved in his governance.
Posted by: NinaK | August 31, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
NinaK,(12:24 AM) McCain has more women on his staff and they are being paid more than the men. Obama has very few women and they are paid considerably less than the men. I did my research on this and was very surprised since all the Obama supporters kept putting down McCain for not treating women equally, actually he’s not, he’s paying them MORE than men.
Really, you have been writing these very long comments about McCain and I haven’t seen one true statement. It’s all nonsense.
Posted by: Kay | August 31, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
LeeLee you said “No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony
That is so contradictory if you go to vote for McCain, get over your tantrum long enough to review his and Palin policies regarding womens rights, i.e no equal pay for equal work, no right to choice etc, then you’ll see that you’ll be dishonoring the same person you’ve just quoted. Totally hypocritical.
Posted by: vote4peace | August 31, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
WHY did obama not pick Hillary as VP is what we should be asking? His first big decision and he botched it. Obama knows it is best for the country with Hillary as VP(bringing back the Clinton experience and success of the 90′s), but apparently can’t get past personal feelings for the good of the country. Shows how much substance he has. Also, Hillary as VP would’ve locked up the presidency for him(his votes plus Hillary’s 18 mill would’ve been enough). Now he risks losing part of that 18 mill including myself. I will vote for McCain because, it’s obvious that Obama is all form and no substance as indicative from his first MAJOR decision debacle.
Posted by: Sean | August 31, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
I wasn’t a Hillary supporter but we have a lot to thank her for. She opened the doors to us women and opened the “all-male club for president” eyes that women are tired of men running our lives and our country. Palin was a brilliant choice, but McCain might not have considered her if he hadn’t seen the huge support Hillary recieved from women. Here’s a man that is actually listening to women and not the special interests like Barack Obama’s pick, Biden, whose son is a lobbyist by the way. Obama should have swallowed his pride at not being more worshipped than Hillary and picked her. He might have actually had a chance at winning.
Posted by: Kay | August 31, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
“LeeLee: I sure hope you’re not a woman talking nonsense like that but if you are that goes to show why unstable people have no business voting. When Obama wins PUMA will be history and fade out of existence, I can hardly wait for this embarrassing group to disband because any group that’s willing to spit on the sacrifices many made for women’s right to vote don’t desire to be mentioned of again.”
The interesting things about blogs are that you never know who you are really talking to.
That said, Obama is not going to win because he has lost most of Hillary’s Supporters. When this first started, I said Obama could not get into the White House without Hillary’s Supporters. That is true.
What you should be embarrassed about (if you are a woman and an Obama Supporter) is that you stood by and allowed members of your own gender to be denigrated and insulted by other Obama (male and female) Supporters.
Your pathetic attempt to try and guilt trip people based on women’s rights issues is laughable at best and does not impress me in the least. Nice try, but no cookie.
PUMA!
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 31, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
sean – Obamas real first botched decision was not vetting his VP selection team. Two of the three ended up under the bus in a matter of a couple of days.
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
McCain has a lot of experience
losing control over his own
behavior and going off the
deep end.
Palin’s a moose killer. She likes
to gorge on moose burgers. That’s
about the extent of her experience.
Posted by: anon | August 31, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Kay: Sounds like you and McCain just don’t get it. It has always been about the issues not the candidates.
Posted by: vote4peace | August 31, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Obama’s lack of judgment scares me. By not picking Hillary as VP, he shows a deficient decision-making ability. Are you still holding a grudge, Mr. Obama? You can talk-the-talk but you’ve fallen before even trying to walk-the-walk. Party Unity, eh? Only way was a joint ticket. No way, No how, NOBAMA.
Posted by: Christy | August 31, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Obama made the biggest mistake in his campaign not putting Clinton on his ticket. Think about… (slowly)
1) She got 18 million votes!
2) She spent millions and is debt now to get 18 million votes!
3) She worked for SEVERAL months to get 18 million votes!!
I’m sorry, but the dems do not deserve to win. They cheated out Michigan and Florida… not to mention the 18 million voters.
Go McCain/Pilan 2008. This Democrate is registering Republican next week. You deserve to win. You ran a democratic election and my family who has died for our freedom appreciates it. I’m American and will not be with a antidemocratic party… ever. Shame on you Dems! Shame!
Posted by: Sarah Jones | August 31, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
badger1: Are you sure you don’t mean McCainn instead, after all he’s the one who chosed a VP after only meeting her once?
Posted by: vote4peace | August 31, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
“LeeLee you said “No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony
That is so contradictory if you go to vote for McCain, get over your tantrum long enough to review his and Palin policies regarding womens rights, i.e no equal pay for equal work, no right to choice etc, then you’ll see that you’ll be dishonoring the same person you’ve just quoted. Totally hypocritical.”
I think you need to get over yourself.
PUMA!
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 31, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
“No way. No how. No McCain.”
Hillary Clinton
Posted by: anon | August 31, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Only the true Hillary supporters will stick with her, and like she said were you in it for her or the issues. Obama isn’t going to lose because he’ll still have the true Hillary supporters, he doesn’t need the “Any woman supporters” If any woman will do then John McPander is the one for you. I hope his no equal pay for equal work works well for ya.
Posted by: vote4peace | August 31, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Vote4peace–tsk tsk. Get your facts straight. Obama has 33 men on his staff and 31 women. The men are paid $10,400 more than the women. On the other hand McCain has 30 women and 16 men and the women are paid $3,000 more than the men.
Posted by: Kay | August 31, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
I AM a true Hillary/Clintons supporter and give me ONE good reason Obama picked Biden over Hillary. Any Democrat would probably agree Hillary is more qualified than Biden as VP(considering she’s(or more specifically team Clinton) been there done that and quite successfully I might add.
The point is not only the issues but also as Obama said himself, JUDGMENT. He has shown poor judgment in his first and what i would consider a no-brainer decision. As a life-long Democrat, I will vote for McCain. If he had picked a Romney(hardcore conservative
) as VP, I may have not voted at all, but I will vote for a Moderate Republican ticket over a grudge-bearing, judgment deficient Obama.
Posted by: Christy | August 31, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
vote 4 peace – That is true, but she is a remarkable woman, and a good choice. They may not have met but he was well aware of her acomplishments for some time,, for instance,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Governor Murkowski appointed Palin Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission,[23] where she served from 2003 to 2004. She resigned in protest over what she called the “lack of ethics” of fellow Republican members.[24][6] After she resigned, Palin exposed the state Republican Party’s chairman, Randy Ruedrich, one of her fellow Oil & Gas commissioners, who was accused of doing work for the party on public time and supplying a lobbyist with a sensitive e-mail.[25] Palin filed formal complaints against both Ruedrich and former Alaska Attorney General Gregg Renkes, who both resigned. Ruedrich also paid a record $12,000 fine.[6]
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
Am I really reading these comments from supposed former Hillary supporters who now plan to vote for the McCain Palin ticket just because Palin is female? That is the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard. The people making those comments were not really Hillary supporters, they are typical republicans using the usual tactics of lying and stooping to any low posing as “former Hillary supporters.” NO Hillary supporter, male or female could now support Palin if they have any sense at all. The ONLY thing Palin and Hillary have in common is their sex. Politically they are polar opposites and stand for completely opposite things. Just because Palin is a woman does not make her smart or capable. The Republican reasoning that women are so vapid and ridiculous as to vote for a candidate just because she is female and ignoring her stance on issues is truly demeaning. Palin may be female, but she is a Bush republican, conservative, gun toting, anti-choice, pro big business and oil, anti middle class, the polar opposite of Hillary. There is just no other way to say this, but ANYONE who agrees with Hillary’s stance on policies and would vote for Palin is an IDIOT. Sorry, don’t usually like name-calling tactics but, like it or not, that is just an indisputable fact.
Posted by: Zeke | August 31, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
Hillary supporters who are now supporting Obama – Shame on you. Do any of you actually belive that Hilary wholeheartedly endorsed Obama? She swallowed her pride and flat out lied. Remeber her words? John McCain has a lifetime of experience….Barack Obama has a speech he gave in 2002. Hillary doesnt want to see Obama elected,, are you kidding me? You all cant see the writing on the wall? She said that for the party,, a party who stabbed her in the back.
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
badger1: How long have you known that about Palin? And was she the most qualified person for the VP choice?
Posted by: vote4peace | August 31, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
Zeke, get over yourself. The liberal wing of the democratic party blatently shunned the people and had selected Obama months before the primaries ended. Hillary was constantly having to defend her right to remain in the race, even while she was amassing the popular vote. The fact that you are still supporting the candidate who was selected, and not elected, along with a party who violated the trust of the people is dispicable.
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Zeke: You are so right in everything you’ve just said. I would like to add that true Hillary supporters would saying “NO WAY, NO HOW, NO MCPANDER!”.
Posted by: vote4peace | August 31, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
dnc party bosses and super delegates selected obama, not the dnc voters. Michigan, Florida, and Hillary got sued.
The media was a party to the greivance, as it was so fawning over their messiah.
Posted by: cpc | August 31, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
Palin is not running for president. I am voting for McCain because he is a moderate and I think he’ll do a much better job than Obama (even though I was an Obama fan but Hillary supporter during the primaries). Obama has shown his true colors by not making the wise decision of choosing Hillary as VP. It would’ve not only guaranteed victory but would’ve been good for the Dem party and the country. However, the ONLY reason, he didn’t choose Hillary was because, he took things personal, couldn’t let go, and held a grudge. Essentially, he let his personal feelings get in the way of what was best for our party and our country. Me First, Country Second mentality, which to me rings ALARM BELLS of his capability to be commander-in-chief! That’s why I am voting for McCain this time!
Posted by: Christy | August 31, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
vote4peace – I dont see the relevance of how long Ive known that about Palin. I know it now, and I am impressed. As for her qualifications. All candidates bring something different to the table. She has taken on big oil, taxing them when prices sky rocketed, passing that along to the people of Alaska in the way of $1200.00 dollar stimulus checks. She is a shaker and mover, not a talker like Obama.
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am
I have a question for Obama. Why Biden over Hillary? It’s like picking an average Joe(considering how he did in the primaries) over the Michael Jordan of the Democratic party to be your wingman. Bottom Line: All Form, No Substance. At least McCain has substance and experience to back up his politics.
Posted by: Christy | August 31, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am
The true test of a politician’s worth is being played out an these websites. Obama’s supporters for months have made out like he has already won the election. Instead, since McCain announced his choice yesterday, the Democratic blogging machine has been in overdrive. If Palin is so bad, and we should all already realize it, then why are the Demos so worried? Why are they blogging day and night about her? They should be happy. They should be relaxed. You should be able to log on and read where the Demos say, oh well, Obama has won, who cares? That is not what we’re seeing. We see a party who had all their ducks in a row and ready to trash Romney or Pawlenty or Lieberman. After all, this woman hater McCain wouldn’t dare pick a woman, would he. I think it’s hilarious.
Palin has management and administrative experience which is what is necessary to run a country. Running a country is a lot like running a huge corporation. CEOs in the business world are promoted from divisions or smaller companies every day to higher management positions. The Obamabots have been arguing all spring that Hillary needed to get elected govenor of a state and then that would qualify her to be POTUS after Obama was through with it. Why they did not think their own candidate, with less experience in the Senate than Hillary, did not need to do the same was never explained.
As to why Hillary did not attack Palin, she may still do so. However, I fully believe that Hillary has more than paid her debt to a party whose leader decided last year that Obama was his golden child and did everything in his power to see to it that he won. From Dean’s disenfranchisement of the FL and MI voters on down, he has tried to pull the strings here. And then, the day before the sham roll call, he decided they can have their full vote. If the primary season had progressed as normal with the momentum Hillary got coming off early wins in these two states, she would have been the nominee and Dean knew it. Kennedy and company are supporting Obama because they knew from the start if Hillary won, they would not control her.
As far as the question of which candidate will survive the four years. McCain is 72, that is true. Reagan was 78 when he left office. This country is full of people who are in their 80s and 90s and some in the 100s. I just lost a friend last week at 56, who died suddenly with no warning. Age has nothing to do with it. Biden has had two brain surgeries to repair aneurysims, like the one that killed the Ohio politician last week. Obama was the first candidate to ask for protection because he was apparently receiving threats, and if you take into account news articles, he is apparently still getting them. There have been two people arrested from my state for making threats against him, and one in fact made threats against Bush also. Harrison caught a cold and developed pneumonia and pleurisy and died 30 days into his term. Warren Harding died from a heart attack at the age of 57, two years into his term. McKinley was assasinated at 57 in the first year of his second term. And of course, Kennedy was assasinated at the age of 46, and there were attempts made against both Ford and Reagan. The age of the POTUS has nothing to do with whether or not he makes it through the term. People die suddenly every day from previously undetected illness. The argument that we should vote for President based on who their vp is because they may have to take over is ridiculous. There is no evidence that McCain is less likely to survive his term than Obama based solely on their respective ages.
Posted by: Melanie | August 31, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
In the next couple of months
as voters get to know more
about Palin and her positions
on various issues, she’ll wimp
out like Dan Quayle.
Posted by: anon | August 31, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
badger1: Like McCain doesn’t use a teleprompter. The only difference is Obama is so good at it that he looks like he memorized his whole speech, unlike McCain.. remember that awful speech with that awful green backdrop? He stumbled so bad even the Republican pundits criticized him.
I would like to know how anyone could still vote Republican after George Bush lied to us regarding the Iraq war.
Posted by: pberry | August 31, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am
vote4peace – what is this obsession with Palin being the most qualified for the VP? Why dont you instead answer a much more important question. Who from the democratic party is the most qualified to be the Presidential nominee? I’m waiting
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am
pberry – Why would anybody vote republican after Bush lied? Because Bush isnt running for re-election. The party didnt lie, a man lied. A new administration will be sworn in. Make sense? Why would anybody vote Obama after he broke his pledge on public financing, or after he celebrated his right of passage into Chicago politics at the home of an admitted anti-american terrorist? etc etc etc
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am
badger1: You go first, I’ve asked that same question yesterday repeatedly and not one single Republican would answer it but instead answer the question with a question or dodged it all together why is that?
Posted by: pberry | August 31, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
I’m not so sure the Clintons are quite over being snubbed by Obama. Besides that isn’t the point. The point to me is Obama received a big F on his first test/decision and it does not bode well to me to put him as commander-in-chief for the reasons I’ve already laid out. He does talk a good talk, but action speaks louder than words. Party Unity? Action speaks louder than words.
The issues DO matter, but if a leader can’t make wise decisions and doesn’t have the substance to back it up, a Jimmy Carter-type debacle or in Obama’s case, i feel potentially many-fold worse could ensue. McCain, to me is OK at best, but I would rather a C candidate than an F candidate. If I recall, even John Kerry vetted McCain as a potential VP.
Obama’s VP decision/debacle speaks VOLUMES of his Judgment, Character and Decision-making ability(all important qualities in a good leader-not just the gift of gab). I may or may not vote for McCain, but Obama will not be getting my vote. To me, Obama’s first big failed decision is like a job applicant who completely botches his job interview or entrance exam.
Posted by: Christy | August 31, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
Obama leads McCain by 9 points
according to the latest polls.
Posted by: anon | August 31, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am
Does anyone understand that it is not acceptable to bite the hand that feeds you and then keep expecting more feedings? What the H–ll does the Obama squad expect from Hillary? Obama lost this election when he selected Biden, a less-qualified, Iraq war supporting white male to “balance” the ticket over a more qualified woman supported by half of the Dem. party. As a lifelong Democrat, he lost my vote at that time. Obama’s change is not change I can believe in. McCain’s change doesn’t require belief at all–it is real–he added a woman with executive experience to his ticket. Kudos McCain. For all of you who would criticize people for voting for a gender balanced ticket, note that 93% of all African-Americans are supporting Obama. I’d rather vote for Hillary and would have voted for Obama had he put her on the ticket. His stupidity and arrogance in noting doing so will be his downfall.
Posted by: DuskyDakota | August 31, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am
I find it amazing that Obama supporters have the audacity to talk about Sarah Palins experience, when Obama, who has no executive experience, and no foriegn policy experience, never balanced a budget, or had veto power is actually the nominee for president. Yet they dont question this?? Somebody please explain this one to me.
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
ZEKE:
“Am I really reading these comments from supposed former Hillary supporters who now plan to vote for the McCain Palin ticket just because Palin is female?”
________
Not “SUPPOSED” former Hillary supporters.
“Hillary Supporters” of a woman who was dissed, smeared, and discarded by an empty vest who didn’t have the guts to make her his vice president…..
Which was a great thing for HER because she has more valuable work cut ouf ro her than cleaning up after B O !
But to be ignored when she collected the same quantity of votes as Obama, makes it impossible for HER followers to back HIM! For this, he lost our respect!
So we’ll be voting for McCain not only because Palin is a woman but because McCain is not Obama!
So let me sum this up , a la B O:
“I hope I have made myself perfectly clear. This was just another stupid move on the part of Obama… but the one which will cost him a ton of votes!”
Posted by: america*centric | August 31, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
Joe Biden voted for that war, yet Obama’s main reason to vote for him instead of Hillary was that she was for the war and he was against. So, if Obama is elected and something happens to him, then we still have a President that voted for the war. Sorry, vote4peace, I realize you can’t grasp more than three word phrases.
Posted by: Melanie
You forgot the part where he has repeatedly said it was a mistake.
Posted by: J | August 31, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am
“vote4peace – what is this obsession with Palin being the most qualified for the VP? Why dont you instead answer a much more important question. Who from the democratic party is the most qualified to be the Presidential nominee? I’m waiting
Posted by: badger1 | Aug 31, 2008 2:49:58 AM
________________________________________
H I L L A R Y C L I N T O N
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
SENATOR HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
C L I N T O N
Posted by: america*centric | August 31, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am
Posted by: america*centric | Aug 31, 2008 3:16:41 AM
I am die hard Hillary supporter. Her speech and her backing of Obama is why I will be voting for him in November.
If you really truly did support Hillary you would do as she has asked her supporters to do.
What policies of McCain’s mirror Hillary’s? If you like the way things have gone the last 8 years, vote McCain. If you really truly supported Hillary then vote Obama because policy wise they are on the same side of the fence. To vote for McCain out of spite is ridiculous.
I happen to love this country and I am tired of the garbage that has gone on the past 8 years. The little stunt of putting a woman on the ticket won’t work. Palin is no Hillary Clinton.
“No way, No how, No McCain”
Posted by: J | August 31, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am
j – John McCain has a lifetime of experience he would bring to the White House,,, Barack Obama has a speech he gave in 2002 : Hillary Clinton
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am
I recently was a computer technician for the State of Alaska. Before that I was a full time Alaska Army National Guardsman. I had the honor of meeting Gov Sarah Palin once.
I was the driver for the Dep of Military and Veterans Affairs’ management (directors, commish, etc). They had me drop them off at the capitol building to meet with their newly elected governor and they invited me to sit in on the meet and greet.
I have to say that Gov Palin is a very good communicator by the fact that she really listens to you when you are talking. During the meeting she had to step out for a five minute prior arrangement.
We continued our briefing with her chief of staff. She returned and apologized for the interuption. She had promised her youngest daughter that no matter if she became the governor or not she would still take the time to pick her up at the bus stop after school.
That of course doesnt come from a power hungry politician. This is the kinda rare person that you run across at school or work once or twice in your life and you say to them, “Someone like you should be the President.”
That person emits such an honest quality about them…caring yet very strong. The person we wish all our leaders would be. And of course they always just grin and say, “Me, President? Yeah, right.”
But now’s our chance to have that kinda person in the White House, at least as OUR Vice President of the United States of America.
Posted by: Alaskan Soldier | August 31, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am
j – John McCain has a lifetime of experience he would bring to the White House,,, Barack Obama has a speech he gave in 2002 : Hillary Clinton
What if he dies while in office? His experience is like George Bush’s, after all he voted 90% of the time with what Bush wanted. Is that what you really want for this country?
Like Hillary said
“I want you to ask yourselves: Were you in this campaign just for me? Or were you in it for that young Marine and others like him?
Were you in it for that mom struggling with cancer while raising her kids?
Were you in it for that boy and his mom surviving on the minimum wage? Were you in it for all the people in this country who feel invisible?”
Posted by: J | August 31, 2008, 3:46 am 3:46 am
j.
I AM a supporter of Hillary… and will N E V E R vote for Obama because of the many ways he mistreated her and denigrated her and played the race card against her and Bill.
So… DO NOT iNSULT ME BY IMPLYING IN YOUR POSTING THAT I WOULD DO OTHERWISE…
as you did in your post of:
” J | Aug 31, 2008 3:30:47 AM”
Posted by: america*centric | August 31, 2008, 3:49 am 3:49 am
j – That is a big what if. Still,,,Sarah Palin has FAR more credentials than Barack Obama.
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am
j.
I AM a supporter of Hillary… and will N E V E R vote for Obama because of the many ways he mistreated her and denigrated her and played the race card against her and Bill.
So… DO NOT iNSULT ME BY IMPLYING IN YOUR POSTING THAT I WOULD DO OTHERWISE…
as you did in your post of:
” J | Aug 31, 2008 3:30:47 AM”
Posted by: america*centric
Obviously they can put it behind them and so should her supporters. Go ahead and vote McCain, you’ll get 4 more years of misery. To vote for him to teach the democrats a lesson is stupid. This is our country not some game.
Another Hillary quote that swayed me
“the time is now to unite as a single party with a single purpose. We are on the same team and none of us can afford to sit on the sidelines. This is a fight for our future And it is a fight we must win.”
Posted by: J | August 31, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am
j – That is a big what if. Still,,,Sarah Palin has FAR more credentials than Barack Obama.
Posted by: badger1
Go ahead and vote McCain and you will get more of the same garbage that we have had to endure for 8 long years. If you can afford it, by all means vote for him.
Posted by: J | August 31, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am
j – sorry to hear that your brainwashed by the Obama campaign, and the liberal media slogan of Mcain Bush 4 more years. Biggest crock of propaganda in this election. I have no problem with my current financial status anyway. I work hard, and make good money. McCaindoesnt want to raise your taxes, he wants to make gas cheaper by drilling. You opposed to his agenda to save you money? Sarah palin has been saving the people of Alaska money since she was a Mayor, and now Goveror.
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am
j – sorry to hear that your brainwashed by the Obama campaign, Posted by: badger1 |
This is not just about you, it’s about everyone. Some people do not make the money we do, what about them? When have any Republican Presidents ever saved you money????
What about my nieces future or my nephews who are and will be of age to get drafted if need be. I am not just thinking of myself but also for those who aren’t as fortunate as I am and yes for the younger generation of my family.
I make good money and I also work hard. Obama is not the one that made me rethink my vote it was the things that Senator Hillary Clinton said.
Posted by: J | August 31, 2008, 4:33 am 4:33 am
Every Democrat that voted for the war has said they’ve changed their mind. So, again, how is Biden any more absolved of the fact than Hillary is?
Do you think Obama will be putting Biden in charge of economic policy? After all, he was the driving force behind the bankruptcy law reforms which in turn helped create the current housing crisis. There was a time when people got into financial difficulty and filed bankruptcy and could keep their primary residence. Instead, they now lose the house. Biden earns 169 thousand a year, but he is worth somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 thousand, one of the poorest members of the Senate. One thing about it, when Bill Clinton was in office, we all had money in our pockets and I’m sure his wife is just as good as economics. Better than Obama’s Socialist policies.
Posted by: Melanie | August 31, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am
As a Democrat I always thought that the squelching of free speech and open debate would be something that Republicans have more of an inclination to do.
Sadly, given the media and all of Obama’s mendacity, the way his campaign has operated against Hillary, it is obvious that fascism is well and alive in the Democratic camp.
A vote against Obama is a vote for freedom.
There is a special place in hell for women who do not help other women.
~Madeleine K. Albright
Posted by: jvsp | August 31, 2008, 5:24 am 5:24 am
Enough! It’s not Hillary’s responsibility to attack Obama. She’s not a candidate. Hillary is gracious, and Obama got his attack dog, remember? His name is BIDEN.
Posted by: Dhyana | August 31, 2008, 5:41 am 5:41 am
MCCAIN WILL WIN****HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA*****
Posted by: Andrew | August 31, 2008, 6:12 am 6:12 am
MCCAIN WILL WIN****HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA*****
Posted by: Andrew | Aug 31, 2008 6:12:07 AM
Speak for yourself. After her speech this one is going to.
Posted by: J | August 31, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am
Hillary owes Obama NOTHING. He booted her to the curb.
He was convinced that he could do without the votes of myself and other people who had traditionally voted Democrat.
His pompus attitude got exactly what it worked for, he’s now the nominee.
But thank goodness this brat will never be president!
Posted by: Robin | August 31, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
THESE ARE VERIFIED QUOTES FROM GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS:”I don’t believe in interracial relationships, I was born in Idaho and raised to believe that whites and blacks shouldn’t date each other”, “I want creationism as the only theory taught in our schools”, “I don’t know a lot about Iran, I just heard that they are bad people”, “He can say he is a christian but as far as I’m concerned, Obama is a muslim, look at his middle name”, “The bible will at some point, be in every classroom in our great state if I have my way”, “Here in Alaska, we don’t have hardly any Blacks, I never talk to them, so I was surprised that a black girl beat me in the 1984 Miss Alaska pageant”AMERICA, WAKE UP, THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO ELECT…….Posted by:Opposition Research Company————————–Wow! Possibly could be the Commander in Chief? Not by my vote!!
Posted by: CW | August 31, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
65 days to the election. The American people say their most important concerns are the economy and the wars. Does anyone know what Gov. Palin’s positions are on any of those issues?
She said she hadn’t given the wars much thought. She probably hasn’t given the nation’s financial problems much thought either. She doesn’t have much time to get up to speed.
Her first interview will be with People magazine!? Do we really need to know how she decorates her home?
If she is going to be a heartbeat away from being president, we really need her to tell us where she stands on our national and international problems.
The Russian bear is also starting to prowl again. Would she have the standing to rally NATO?
I can’t understand the shallowness of those who suggest that the being a woman, a mother, and pro-life are the only merits she needs for the job.
She needs to stand before us now and convince us that she is ready and able to lead this country.
Posted by: JoeC | August 31, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am
Since when is it Hillary’s job to do the heavy lifting for the men who pushed her aside? Give me a break. The roll call that didn’t happen. I ask the DNC where the representation of the people was. I know Arkansas and Florida and California and other states did not give Obama a win. Yet, when the started the faux rollcall, they all went for Obama. Funny, do the American people know that the delegates were made to place their votes on paper in their hotel rooms to be gathered by Obama workers and were then threatened to change their vote from Clinton to Obama or else. Ask some delegates what happened. Many are willing to tell you.
Posted by: Glennmcgahee | August 31, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am
This pick was PLAIN stupid and you Repub’s know it…..
Its Popeye & Oliveoil
Posted by: Ernest T Bass | August 31, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
To all Clinton Democrats that have felt cheated:
This primary has revealed DNC “leadership” to be corrupt, mean-spirited, and lacking respect for basic democratic principles. They have completely and effectively ceded the moral high ground to Republicans at this point.
1. We have seen the race card played, with assistance from both Dean and Brazile.
2. We have seen rampant sexism with no objection by the DNC.
3. We have seen the superdelegates endorse as quid-pro-quo for campaign contributions.
4. We have seen arm-twisting of the congressional delegates by “neutral” Nancy Pelosi to declare for Obama.
5. We have seen an unabashed ageism campaign against John McCain, calling him “confused”, and that he has “lost his bearings”.
6. We’ve seen a softening of support for the gay and lesbian community.
7. We’ve seen caucus cheating.
8. We’ve seen intimidation of Hillary supporters, hack attacks and coordinated threats against voters and media that dare to dissent.
9. We’ve seen manipulation of the party nominating system and media to favor one candidate over another and the outright redistribution of votes cast for one Hillary and given to Obama.
This is now a democratic party in name only.
Thank God for McCain’s choice…………..
Obama the empty suit can’t win this election. What a disaster.
Obama never won the primary. Obama stole it from Hillary.The world watched the DNC hand the nomination to Obama by silencing voters.
Obama has destroyed the Democratic Party because of his own self centered narcissist personality.
The media can say what they want about Obama winning the primary but voters know the truth, especially Clinton supporters. Obama ignored voters. Florida and Michigan will never forget it.
Obama and Michelle were given a second chance to put Hillary on his ticket, but instead chose to hog the glory and embarrass the Democratic Party. Obama could have won these women over.
Now McCain is winning the Hillary women with his VP pick.
Obama is risky, radical and not a great patriot. Remember: Rezko, (the criminal), Reverend Wright (the anti Semitic racist) and William Ayers ( Obama’s coworker = domestic terrorist)
God is watching and the world is staring at our unfair voting process.
The Democratic Party is embarrassing, especially Barack Hussein Obama.
Thank God for McCain!
Posted by: Al from NJ | August 31, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
Here’s what the London Times says:
“In fact, even though the Clinton aides could barely conceal their satisfaction when she was chosen, the woman who Palin upstages most of all is Hillary. If Obama wins the election, Hillary will have to wait until 2016 to stand again. And if he loses, Palin will be first in line to become America’s first woman president.”
Posted by: John | August 31, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
mccain/plain if you haven’t noticed the evangelical vote isn’t going to matter one way or the other this year, its the independent voters who turn a state red or blue, and thats a fact.
Posted by: Saddlesablazing | August 31, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
I see the Obamatrons are trying to find a way to blame this on Hillary. LMAO
Posted by: Angry Democrat | August 31, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
The London Times has not predited anything right so far so why should any of us pay any attention to their opinion. Obama will lose in Nov., Pelosi will get ousted from the big chair along with Reid, the Dems will retain control of the House but fall short in the Senate. They probably should have been nicer to Leiberman, and Hillary will probably challenge McCain or Palin in 2012 and win.
Posted by: Jim | August 31, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
I find it amazing that Obama supporters have the audacity to talk about Sarah Palins experience, when Obama, who has no executive experience, and no foriegn policy experience, never balanced a budget, or had veto power is actually the nominee for president. Yet they dont question this?? Somebody please explain this one to me.
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Governor Murkowski appointed Palin Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission,[23] where she served from 2003 to 2004. She resigned in protest over what she called the “lack of ethics” of fellow Republican members.[24][6] After she resigned, Palin exposed the state Republican Party’s chairman, Randy Ruedrich, one of her fellow Oil & Gas commissioners, who was accused of doing work for the party on public time and supplying a lobbyist with a sensitive e-mail.[25] Palin filed formal complaints against both Ruedrich and former Alaska Attorney General Gregg Renkes, who both resigned. Ruedrich also paid a record $12,000 fine.[6]…………. Now that is real change. Sarah is a shaker and a mover, not just a talker filled with political rhetoric.
Posted by: badger1 | August 31, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
“Sorry folks, but you cannot shatter the glass ceiling with a woman who does not believe all other women own their own bodies and have the right to make their own decisions about that.
I voted for Hillary because she spent her whole life in the pursuit of justice for women and children of every creed and color.
Palin is the anti-Hillary. She wont shatter the glass ceiling, she will cement over the 18 million cracks WE put in it!!! Those cracks weren’t made by Palin, they were MADE by US!!! WE OWN them!!!”
Jeanne from Michigan you have it right, thank you.
Sarah Palin will seal the cracks, so well put.
Ladies, my step mother is a woman I love and respect. I think the world of her and she is a great mother/wife . However this is also a woman I would NEVER want to be president. Like Pallin she was a major supporter of Pat Bucahnan bid for the presidency.
I just have one question to each of you voting for the McCain ticket out of spite; which of you supported Pat Buchanan and his idealogies.That is what Pallin stands for, don’t be fooled. It takes more than a set of ovaries, and not any woman in the White House will do for this woman .
We cannot afford to cut our noses off despite our faces. Even Hilary will not be able fix the mess created by a McCain/Pallin presidency in 2012 , supreme court appointments are for life. This is exactly what the Rove camp wants and you are playing RIGHT into their hands.
Posted by: Andrea in Florida | August 31, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
I cannot believe how dumb some of you women are. I am a woman and I can see through the choice McCain has made. Palin is a housewife. Hillary has experience and talent.
I am voting for Obama. You should listen to his speech. Really listen. Yes, I wanted Hillary but that is emotional. I like her. I don’t like Obama in the same way but this isn’t about liking someone it is about who is the best person for the job. I believe Obama is. I also think his choice for VP was a good one.
Come on woman, think instead of being run by your emotions. Do you think I am patronizing? Maybe I am but it feels like I am talking to a bunch of children who can’t think for themselves.
Posted by: Ver | August 31, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
“Come on woman, think instead of being run by your emotions. Do you think I am patronizing? Maybe I am but it feels like I am talking to a bunch of children who can’t think for themselves.”
Yes, you are if you think we are being ruled by “emotions.” We have made a deliberate, conscious choice not to support The Messiah, the Fraud in the Empty Suit and the Corrupt DNC that selected him.
Please read Susan B. Anthony’s quote below and get a clue. It’s free.
PUMA!
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 31, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Hillary and Bill Clinton stepped up to the podium and did what was required of good Democrats…
Their speeches should not be interpreted as anything more than doing their duty as Democrats…
Not having a woman on the Obama ticket points to the control that Michelle Obama would have in the White House…
Is that what anyone really wants?
Anybody But Obama…
Posted by: Jayhawk | August 31, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
The true test of a politician’s worth is being played out an these websites. Obama’s supporters for months have made out like he has already won the election. Instead, since McCain announced his choice yesterday, the Democratic blogging machine has been in overdrive. If Palin is so bad, and we should all already realize it, then why are the Demos so worried? Why are they blogging day and night about her? They should be happy. They should be relaxed. You should be able to log on and read where the Demos say, oh well, Obama has won, who cares? That is not what we’re seeing. We see a party who had all their ducks in a row and ready to trash Romney or Pawlenty or Lieberman. After all, this woman hater McCain wouldn’t dare pick a woman, would he. I think it’s hilarious.
As Palin has management and administrative experience which is what is necessary to run a country. Running a country is a lot like running a huge corporation. CEOs in the business world are promoted from divisions or smaller companies every day to higher management positions. The Obamabots have been arguing all spring that Hillary needed to get elected govenor of a state and then that would qualify her to be POTUS after Obama was through with it. Why they did not think their own candidate, with less experience in the Senate than Hillary, did not need to do the same was never explained.
As to why Hillary did not attack Palin, she may still do so. However, I fully believe that Hillary has more than paid her debt to a party whose leader decided last year that Obama was his golden child and did everything in his power to see to it that he won. From Dean’s disenfranchisement of the FL and MI voters on down, he has tried to pull the strings here. And then, the day before the sham roll call, he decided they can have their full vote. If the primary season had progressed as normal with the momentum Hillary got coming off early wins in these two states, she would have been the nominee and Dean knew it. Kennedy and company are supporting Obama because they knew from the start if Hillary won, they would not control her.
As far as the question of which candidate will survive the four years. McCain is 72, that is true. Reagan was 78 when he left office. This country is full of people who are in their 80s and 90s and some in the 100s. I just lost a friend last week at 56, who died suddenly with no warning. Age has nothing to do with it. Biden has had two brain surgeries to repair aneurysims, like the one that killed the Ohio politician last week. Obama was the first candidate to ask for protection because he was apparently receiving threats, and if you take into account news articles, he is apparently still getting them. There have been two people arrested from my state for making threats against him, and one in fact made threats against Bush also. Harrison caught a cold and developed pneumonia and pleurisy and died 30 days into his term. Warren Harding died from a heart attack at the age of 57, two years into his term. McKinley was assasinated at 57 in the first year of his second term. And of course, Kennedy was assasinated at the age of 46, and there were attempts made against both Ford and Reagan. The age of the POTUS has nothing to do with whether or not he makes it through the term. People die suddenly every day from previously undetected illness. The argument that we should vote for President based on who their vp is because they may have to take over is ridiculous. There is no evidence that McCain is less likely to survive his term than Obama based solely on their respective ages.
Posted by: Melanie rocks | August 31, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Does anyone understand that it is not acceptable to bite the hand that feeds you and then keep expecting more feedings? What the H–ll does the Obama squad expect from Hillary? Obama lost this election when he selected Biden, a less-qualified, Iraq war supporting white male to “balance” the ticket over a more qualified woman supported by half of the Dem. party. As a lifelong Democrat, he lost my vote at that time. Obama’s change is not change I can believe in. McCain’s change doesn’t require belief at all–it is real–he added a woman with executive experience to his ticket. Kudos McCain. For all of you who would criticize people for voting for a gender balanced ticket, note that 93% of all African-Americans are supporting Obama. I’d rather vote for Hillary and would have voted for Obama had he put her on the ticket. His stupidity and arrogance in noting doing so will be his downfall.
Posted by: DuskyDakotaGetsIt | August 31, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Okay, I have read some of the comments above and I can’t believe some of the things American citizens are saying. I am an American Government teacher in highschool and a professor at a Florida University. Wow, I really don’t understand how a Democrat could possible support a Republican. Obama candicacy is very important and it shows America how race plays an important role in our society. Obama is a man of great intelligence and passion for this country. He attained 18 million votes in his battle against Clinton and many of them being white. McCain has regularly accused Obama for his lack of experience. Yet, McCain chooses a governor out of Alaska serving her first term as a governor to be vice president. This women has no type of experience at all. However, I do think McCains strategy was genius in the fact that a great deal of Hillary supporters are women will most likely vote for McCain. Obama and McCain’s views are totally opposite yet people still vote for McCain because his skin color is acceptable. I am disgraced at this country we live in. Europeans are laughing at McCains pick, especially the British. We would rather see our economy destroyed than for a black man to save it. It’s ironic that African blood is what built this country and it’s going to take African blood to save it.
Posted by: Ray | August 31, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
McCain is clearly going for Hillary’s supporters unhappy with Obama. But the last thing he should do is to put a woman who has less foreign policy experience than Obama in a position to become the first female president of the United States. McCain is 72 with a history of skin cancer. The possibility is very real that if he wins he may not finish his term. Do people really think that Hillary and her supporters will be happy that a woman with zero foreign policy experience might become the president of the United States before her?
Posted by: anthony | August 31, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
NO!
Hillary will not be used as a tool by the Democratic machine to attack another woman that has broken barriers.
If you want to attack Palin in a sexist manner, at least be upfront about it.
Shame.
Posted by: John | August 31, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
I find it incredibly laughable that the Obama kids are telling us that McCain is trying to fool us. Listen, we KNOW what is going on. We knew what went on when Obama’s camp tried to tear down the Clinton’s when he dealt the race card. We knew what was going on when he catered to the youth to tear down elderly support. We knew what was going on when he insulted the Working Class. We knew what was going on since the beginning when Obama won Iowa. Those of us who paid close attention saw the symbolic brutal beating of women, of Hillary as a woman and we saw it inhumanely increase throughout the campaign until people started fighting back against Obama’s (Old man Ted Kennedy (whose family has problems with women), John Kerry (whom I volunteered for and know he’s an egotistical, self centered jerk), Tom Daschel and the rest who are envious of the Clinton’s popularity, attack viciously anyone who supported the Clintons in order to win. Yeah, we know what dirty politics are…We know when a candidate speaks something and does something else looks like. We know, from Obama’s “New Politics”; Brass Knuckly beat them into submission to do what we say.
Posted by: irma | August 31, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
A dubious war hero selects a
dubious VP.
Posted by: anon | August 31, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
We know that we won’t be manipulated by the Obama bratz or the McCain Palin ticket. However, do you know that there will be people who vote as women for a woman. You should….many blacks (I am black and proud of it) are voting for Obama (I’m not) precisely because he IS black. We also know Math 50%+50%=100%. But the Kennedy old guys, wouldn’t have it. They are and they have been envious of the Clintons and were willing to throw a win for Dems away.
Posted by: irma | August 31, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
It is not Hillary’s responsibility to go after Palin, she is not the VP for obama so it has nothing to do with her, she does not owe him anything not a damn thing, she has already done to much. I hope that she just watch this play out and stay away from it, let him handle his own dirty work. If he wanted a pro to handle the issues he would have made her VP, let Biden do it.
Posted by: Kim | August 31, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
I’m offended that Sen. McCain thinks he can tease me into voting for him because he put a young, attractive woman on the ticket who is NO Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Rodham Democrat | August 31, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Palin was picked to “woo” the Hillary supporters but its not gonna work!! Any Hillary supporters that vote for the Mccain-Palin ticket, IS NOT a true Hillary supporter. That vote will set us back hundreds of years. Fyi….Palin was a Pat Buchanan supporter in the 90s, so ask yourselves “do you really want THAT in office?”…….
Posted by: dawn | August 31, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Hey Hillary supporters….the best ticket that would be perfection best would be Clinton/Palin or Palin Clinton!! The best of both worlds… I will not disrespect Hillary and vote for Obama…Hill said that Obama was not qualified, Bill said he was not qualified, even Biden said he was not qualified….what else does anyone need to know…Hillary, let Obama do his own dirty work….do not lower yourself to his level..besides, if you do they wills say you are jealous of her…do NOT give them that ammo against you!!
Posted by: mfmros | August 31, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
I DIDN’T KNOW PRESIDENCY CAN BE BOUGHT LIKE A CAR SHOWING IT WITH BEAUTIFUL LAYDY LAYINGBACK ON IT.THAT IS McANE DOING SHOWING THIS LADY AND TRY TO WIN BALLOT CHEAP.
Posted by: JOJO | August 31, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Hillary should tell the DNC to shove it. After the way she was treated, I was impressed that she had anything good to say and I am a Republican. Palin is a true conservative and McCain was smart to put her on the ticket. I was very lukewarm about McCain but now I am sending him money and then the RNC after the 30th.
Posted by: dlc | August 31, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Remember what Hillary said “No Way, No How, No McCain” Palin does not represent nor stand for any issues/policies the voters of Hillary Clinton stand for. Palin represents only one thing and anyone with 1/2 a brain knows what that is.
Posted by: Linda | August 31, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
McCain creamed Obama at the Evangelica Forum debate. It was Obama who stumbled on every word (because he did not have a teleprompter). McCain spoke eloquently and extemporaneously and made a lot of sense. Obama, as usual was a complete failure without a teleprompter.
Posted by: Doreen | August 31, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
My support is now behind Obama…. I have no other choice. Interesting though how Obama will need Hillary to play the “gender card” for him. The shoe is on the other foot. Now he’ll REALLY know what it feels like to have every word he speaks about Palin be judged as sexist, just as he played the “race card” on Bill and Hillary. It’s a round world. :)
Posted by: Texas Lil | August 31, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
It is not Hillary’s responsibility to go after Palin, she is not the VP for obama so it has nothing to do with her, she does not owe him anything not a damn thing, she has already done to much. I hope that she just watch this play out and stay away from it, let him handle his own dirty work. If he wanted a pro to handle the issues he would have made her VP, let Biden do it.
_______________________
Amen!
And don’t you know Biden’s gonna be like a bull in a china shop!
Posted by: Texas Lil | August 31, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
I wonder now if the Obama supporters who clamored for months during the primary that they would NEVER vote for Hillary if she were the nominee….regret those words!
Posted by: kmb08 | August 31, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
In a nutshell: Many of us HRC supporters want “democracy” to be injected into the “Democratic” process, once and for all!! Dean, Pelosi, all RBC board members, other DNC party leaders need a loud and clear message!
For those afraid of the Supreme Court, it takes a majority to confirm/deny, and by all accounts, the Dems should increase their majorities. The Dems would have the power to reject or accept.
Posted by: kmb08 | August 31, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
I think Senator Hillary Clinton has done quite enough for Mr. Obama, thank you very much! Time now for ‘Mr. Cool’ to do something on his own — come up with some original ideas, innovative policies, drop Hillary’s speech lines –and quit relying on others to do his job! After all, he doesn’t have Hillary to diss and dismiss anymore. McCain and his VP, Governor Sarah Palin, are on their own historic journey now and invigorating their party. Just think of what an Obama-Clinton ticket ‘could have and should have’ been? Come Nov. 4, Obama and the DNC may be shaking their heads in disbelief and swallowing their ‘male egos’ with a new campaign slogan ringing in their ears — not ‘yes we can’ but ‘we told you so!’
Posted by: mpwynn | August 31, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Most of you need to get the ANGER OUT, or Obama is not going to win this election or worse win the vote count and still lose to McCain.
Hilary is out; now move on save the country and make sure the Obama Ticket wins the election. Or God help us.
++++
The odds favor Palin as President by the end of four -4- years, folks.
++++
Posted by: SWV | August 31, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Many inequities stand out in the primary season between HRC and BO, but to name numerous ones:
We have: MSM declaring the race over when it clearly wasn’t, planting a dangerous seed by doing so. RBC rules violations. Inconsistent DNC rulings and subsequent penalties against two states that broke early election dates, but no penalties against three other states for same infraction. Caucus fraud, and inaction by DNC leaders to quell the fraud. Intimidation in caucuses being rewarded with disproportionate number of pledged delegates, even to the point of overturning millions of votes in Texas. Sexism, yes it was there too, and although I was repulsed by it, it isn’t my #1 complaint. MSM bias bordered on the sycophantic! No vetting of BO until after a year into the race. Disproportionate microscopic scrutiny of HRC for the last 16yrs ad nauseum. Questionable internet donations to BO from isp providers in the Middle East, per an article by MDowd. Emil Jones placing BO’s name on legislation to pad BO’s resume’, although BO didn’t actually work on these bills. Superdelegates being bought more heavily by BO, and being too spineless to throw their support to the candidate who had demonstrated she was the stronger candidate in almost every way measurable, particularly from the end of Feb. forward.
Democratic reform is very important to many of us HRC supporters. We feel in order to actually send HDean, Pelosi, & other DNC party leaders a message about the inequities in this primary season, we must vote against some issues near and dear to us for the greater good.
Posted by: kmb08 | August 31, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
With all do respect to McCain, being a POW does not make one exceptionally qualified in international diplomacy. Palin is favored as one best qualified to Govern Alaska. Her personal choice to value her baby’s life beyond complications of downs is honorable. But as a business woman and a full time mother of two young ones and a conservative independent voter Obama and Biden are the best choice for a stronger and prosperous America. Palin should be able to stand her own in a debate and the gloves should be off when up against Biden or anyone critic for the positional bid to occupy one of the highest offices in this country. I remember Dan Quayle and the Bush Sr, does anyone else remember how bad the economy went then? Yes they won and that team- Bush Quayle ran this country right into the ground. McCain/Palin is recycled policy from the same vein.
Posted by: Nina | August 31, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
I think the media is playing up the “drama” between the Clintons/Clinton supporters to sell news. No sensible person who supported HRC would vote for McCain or for Palin because she’s a woman. She is a polar oppisite of HRC in nearly every regard. They couldn’t be more diametrically opposed. Palin is against same sex marriages and unions and isn’t for gay rights, she is for more drilling, she doesn’t think global warming is man made, she is pro life even in instances of rape and incest and the list goes on and on and on….
Posted by: J78B | August 31, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
I truly don’t see how she is any less experienced then Obama. Maybe the press will have to lay their actual job experience and accomplishments side by side. It’s a good point that she has almost, more, or the same amount of experience as Obama who is the top of the ticket. Hillary has done her part to help Obama. The media seems to think she owes him everything. If he needed her help this badly, he should have put her on the ticket. Obama created this opening for McCain. Even if you don’t like Palin’s conservative background, McCain does show he is courageous and determined to energize his own party.
Posted by: rafraf | August 31, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Why should Hillary dirty her hands for Obama? Party unity? I really don’t like her much but from all I heard of her was that she was very prepared with facts and figures, was even reported to be a hard worker by McCain and did do well for the residents of New York. Compare this with the stuttering and stammering of Obama, his hope and dreams versus substance and the fact that I don’t see many coming forward to vouch for his character as his asscoiates seem to be Resco and Ayers types. He even had to write a book about his life struggles and accomplishments.
Posted by: david | August 31, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Nobama Nobama I mean No Obama or his troll. She hates America so Much go back to Africa And get his family out of the gutter. She all the sudden loves her country please how stupid do you think Americans are.
Posted by: Ron | August 31, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
What Hillary Clinton does not see or know is the fact that John McCain and the Republican party is writing her political epitaph. This is the DEATH of Hillary’s presidential bid, caput, GONE; should her supporters take the bait!!!
Here is the scenerio: If McCain becomes president for 8 years and Palin becomes a national figure (as Vice President) there will be a stiff competition for Hillary to dislodge her come 2016. By then Hillary will be 68 years old. If she (Palin) becomes president then, and gets her 8 years in office, then Hillary will be 76 years old. I think some Republican think-tanks are preparing a situation where the party can be in power for 24 years straight, if you include the last horrible 8 years of George W. This country will have gone to the dogs.
Does anyone remember how NcCain recently barked at the Russians about Georgia. And his BOMB BOMB BOMB, BOMB BOMB IRAN joke!!!!, courtesy of Rusty Humpreys. This ticket is going to land us in problems!
Posted by: Lucas Mackasmiel | August 31, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
She’s a nutter! Anti-science, anti-choice, pro-death, pro-oil, and pro-abuse of power. This shores of the Christian radicals in the country, but we will not be duped again. Science and reason will not be crucified for these archaic beliefs.
McCain fails to grasp that Sen. Obama is not the change, his approach to governance is. Obama is, and has been through the continual republican slanderfest, cool calm and collected. He is the product of some of our highest institutes of learning and has demonstrated great judgment regarding foreign affairs, energy, the environment and reform. His economic positions are not based on punishing business, but by bringing balance back to our economic systems. When business rules government and makes their own rules our power, the power of our great citizenry, is corrupted and the nation suffers.
McCain, this election is about vision. It’s about harnessing our innovation and intelligence, about aspiring to causes greater than the short-sighted gains of bloated bureaucrats, lobbyists and their constituents. We want to rebuild our electrical grid and develop our renewable resources so that we can free ourselves from foreign energy. We want to renew our standing in the world and reinvigorate world politics because we understand we are not alone in this world and that not only are the world’s problems are ours as well, but that they require more than bravado to solve. We want to provide the basic underpinnings of a smoothly functioning democracy; education, health and opportunity. And yes, it will take hard work and sacrifice as we strive towards these goals, but I for one am willing.
McCain, you my friend are still looking behind you, and while your choice in Palin is to be acknowledged as a step forward for the republican party, your policies and approaches to governance have failed. Hillary Clinton is a great woman, Palin pales in comparison, and your nod to her as your VP is indicative of your cynicism and disrespect for the American people and women in particular. To use the women’s struggle as a divisive political tool is disturbing to say the least, and I have faith in the daughters of America to recognize your long record of sexism in both your political and personal life.
Posted by: A slap in the face | August 31, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Living abroad allows me to look at America with a broader point of view.
It took me 30 minutes to roll thru all the petty blogs.
Wise up American, forget the personalities, and ask yourself. Do you want a nation off abortionists, and homosexuals, or do you want a nation of strong families, and people with respect for life. Women can control their own bodies with self control, and sex within their marriage.
Just ask, do you want the socialism offered by the Democrats, along with their movement away from solid Christian values, or do you want people who value the life of all individuals, and value the integrity of families.
It is not an Obama-McCain choice.
It is a socialism vs. free enterprise choice that we are making.
It is not a war vs. peace choice.
It is a moral vs. an immoral choice.
Posted by: Boyd J. Hale M.D. | August 31, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Oh Geez..I’m sure Hillary would just love to help out Obama with this Palin situation , but you know her “in box” is swamped, and she has a pretty full calender next couple months you know…. I wouldn’t worry about I’m sure all those Hillary voters have “gotten over it” like they were told to by the media and Obama campaign so….you know.
Posted by: Jim | August 31, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Obama is a communist liar.
Posted by: Bud | August 31, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Hillary has already done more for Obama then I suspect he would have done for her had she been the one nominated. Enough already, she deserves time to go off and lick her wounds not run around propping Obama up.
We’re tired of waiting for the ideal woman. Hillary was the best we could have hoped for in experience and pure tenacity.
Now, the republicans are offering another chance to push a woman through the glass ceiling once and for all.
Assuming Obama/Biden win in ’08, they’d likely run again in together in ’12. That means it will be at least 8 years before another female democrat would have the opportunity to run for VP or President.
No wonder, many women find McCain/Palin a tempting offer. It’s an opportunity to push a woman through the glass ceiling even if it’s not Hillary.
Obama should have picked Hillary for VP.
Posted by: ann | August 31, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
I wish that people would recognize that Palin adds more to the ticket than just being female. If Palin’s only plus in McCain’s eyes was that she was female he would have chosen a female that was safer. Also he is not trying to have another Hillary. If he wanted Hillary he would have asked Hillary or at least a more moderate female republican.
Posted by: Female | August 31, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Senator Hillary Clinton is NOT Obama’s MOTHER.
It’s not her job to unite the party, or attack Obama and Biden’s opponents for them, just because of her gender.
When the heck is Obama going to be responsible for Obama?
HILLARY is not Obama’s MOTHER.
Let him clean up his own dang mess!!
Posted by: kat in you hat PUMA | August 31, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
To: Slap in the face
I’m assuming your anti-science is the fact that Palin wanted creationism to be taught in schools. She just wanted creationism to be taught in addition to evolution and other theories to how humans came to be.
Anti-choice: I’m assuming this in reference to abortion. She has her morals, you have yours. However…
DANGERS OF ABORTION:
Hundreds of women in the U.S. have died from complications that are common from abortions and this is under doctors that may legally perform abortions.
Common side effects of abortion include ruptures in the uterus and cervical inflammation. Cervical inflammation may lead to Pelvic Inflammatory Disease and Cervical Cancer. Cervical Cancer is one of the more deadly cancers for women.
There is a 50% increase in chances of breast cancer for those who have had an abortion.
30% of women who have an abortion become infertile. The majority of these women want a child in the future just not at the present time.
There is a 200% increase in miscarriages.
There is a 400% increase in ectopic pregnancy.
This is information that the U.S. Supreme Court has deemed “not relevant to the woman’s decisions, and hat it may serve only to confuse and punish her and to heighten her anxiety.” That is why many of those who go in for abortions are unaware of the dangers. Their doctors don’t tell them because the Supreme Court does not want this information being known.
Pro-Death we will discuss later.
Pro-oil: Duh… Our nation is so dependent upon oil that even if we were to start phasing away from oil, we could not get away from it till at least 2050. If we don’t drill for oil here, we will continue depending upon foreign oil, which adds to our national debt and adds to the funds of corrupt regimes. In the mean time, businesses, middle and low income people will suffer from increased cost in fuel, increased cost in food prices, infrastructure, health care, etc. If we continue the way we are the Wall Street Journal and The Economist predict $6.00 a gallon for gasoline.
Also it takes time to develop renewable energy, and once it is, it takes time for the price to come down and become affordable. How many middle and low income people can afford a two year old hybrid car. Answer: not many. Too many are going through housing foreclosures, which is the responsibility of the Fed.
Posted by: Female | August 31, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
I don’t think that Obama is a Muslim plant by any means. But I do think he is dangerous to middle and low income workers. Several of the policies he supports have been used in the past and have proven to adversely effect he country as a whole, but the middle class was the hardest hit.
Posted by: Female | August 31, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
No offense to Senator Clinton or her supporters but not making a point to point out the differences between her candidacy and Governor Palin selected to be the republican nominee’s VP makes one wonder. It has already been reported that Senator Clinton’s brother a lawyer that was supporting her in her campaign met with Senator McCain’s campaign in Scranton. What was that meeting about? So, when you look at the somewhat endorsement of Governor Palin and this meeting, it makes you go mmmm????
Posted by: CitizenAJ | August 31, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
I have been following the election since January. I have only really looked at ABCnews blogs, and I must say, it is so hard for me to believe this is America. I do love this country, but I hate what we have become. We degrade women, we write racist remarks and we disrespect those who risked their lives for our country.
I am voting for Obama, but I think McCain does want to change this country. I honestly feel anyone will be better for America than Bush.
My family lost everything in Katrina even my grandfather died because of the lack of healthcare available.
I wish that everyone would stop all the bickering and hatred and try to unite. I do not agree with abortion, but I do feel that a women has a right to choose, it is just not a choice in my family – I am a Christian- and I know I am not going to hell because of this.
Just remember everyone, they are all politicians (just like a used car saleman). They will do, say and do and say anything to get your vote. Be smart make the decision that is best for your house and stop all the hatred. God does not like ugly. Ultimately, He has already made the choice of who will be president, so just pray for our country and the men and women who aspire to lead the country and that does include Bush!
Posted by: Are We Americans | August 31, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Men like to see women fighting each other. But luckily smart women don’t do that.
Posted by: Judy | August 31, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
God Bless America, I say. And, God Bless John McCain.
I am also a Naval Aviator and I know the kind of mental abilities that are required to survive in all situations. If you or most other Americans were to ever be asked to be a Naval Aviator, I am thinking that you would realize that you don’t have the ability to do what we have done and love doing it. You must think we are crazy to think that we can land a very heavy, fast jet airplane aboard a “postage stamp” in the middle of the ocean. But, while it is sometimes scary, it is a risk we are always willing to take.
John McCain knows how rewarding it is to take a calculated risk and “win” the battle.
So, his choosing Governor Sarah Palin is like what we do when we take “the risk” of landing on a moving aircraft carrier. But, with Governor Sarah Palin, she showed him that she can be as much a real person who knows “risks” as anyone that is on the horizon.
And, it will be a joke when Sen. Biden and Governor Palin “debate.” After all she has taken on bull moose and with a clear eye, she has brought them down. He will be a very inept man when she goes against him. She has a brain that operates “outside the Washington ‘ole boys club.” And, what a lovely WOMAN she is … with more brains than looks, and that says a lot!!
God Speed to Sarah and John …
Posted by: John in Charlotte | August 31, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Obama blew it when he chose Biden for VP.
HIS judgement is the one in question, not McCains.
Hillary has done everything she can for obama – what has HE done to reach out to Hillary supporters? NOTHING.
Didn’t even consider her for the VP job.
NOW THAT IS SEXIST.
I’m voting McCain/Palin and I’m a democrat who is SICK of Obama and his HUGE EGO…..
Posted by: Gina | September 1, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am
Obama has endured a grueling 18+ month long campaign season. He’s done more than 20 debates with the likes of Hillary, Edwards and Biden. It was his platform and his good tempermant and his good judgment that propelled him to the top. He has connected with and inspired millions of Americans. He earned his right to the top office. Palin was nothing more than a pick out of the blue.
Posted by: Jim | September 1, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Of course Hillary and Sarah disagree on many issues. But on one issue they agree: THAT WOMEN ARE OVER HALF OF THE POPULATION OF THIS COUNTRY and thus SHOULD REPRESENT AT LEAST HALF OF THE PRESIDENTIAL TICKET!!!
I will vote McCain/Palin in 2008.
I will decide between Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton for 2012.
Women unite! It’s about time!
P.S. I’m not “just a soccer mom.” I’m a Yale-educated successful attorney mom of 3 young children, who happens to drive my oldest to soccer practice twice a week.
Posted by: Educated WOMAN | September 1, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Since Obama likes to talk about AUDACITY so much, I want to know where he gets the audacity to expect Hillary to campaign for him after he was so condescending and disrespectful to her. She has gone above and beyond what she needed to do to be considered a good sport about all this. I don’t even like her and I think it was disgraceful the way she was treated by her own party and the media.
Posted by: Strangegir1 | September 1, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
why does Hillary have to babysit BO? He is the nominee, shouldn’t he be fighting his own battles now? Hillary has gone above and beyond what can ever be expected of a competetor. I wish she would stop now and look to her own future, BO is sure going to lose in Nov.
Posted by: dgfromtx | September 1, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am
I supported Hillary. She has always stood up for women’s causes.
I can tell you that she is not going to be Obama’s running dog and attack another women.
United we are strong, divided we will fail.
I think it is about time that we had a woman in the White House.
I am switching my support for Palin.
You Go Girl!!!
Posted by: janephilip | September 1, 2008, 4:54 am 4:54 am
This beauty queen had nothing
but scorn for Clinton whom she
called a whiner during the
Democratic primaries.
Posted by: anon | Aug 30, 2008 4:41:10 PM
You expect us to believe this BS after what Obama did to Hillary.
Obama must be desperate.
The fact is that the thrashing that Hillary (and Bill) got from Nobama was so bad that Hillary was in tears most of the time. He even got his attack dogs, the news media, in on the act.
Posted by: janephilip | September 1, 2008, 4:57 am 4:57 am
WHY ON EARTH should Hillary do their misogynistic dirty work for them??? Isn’t it interesting that BO doesn’t give Hillary an ounce of respect (i.e., allows others to call her a “racist” and “monster” while not even considering her as a running mate.) BO, take the pacifier out of your mouth and fight your own battles. Don’t spit in someones face and expect them to turn around and fight your battles for you.
Posted by: thetruthandonlythetruth | Aug 30, 2008 3:13:31 PM
I too feel that what Nobama did to Hillary was inhumane. I think you have expressed it very nicely.
Posted by: janephilip | September 1, 2008, 5:00 am 5:00 am
Reading through all the posts here, I feel strongly encouraged.
Women are uniting to prevent another attack from two known male chauvinists (Obama/Biden) on another woman.
What Nobama did to Hillary was unforgivable.
As age catches up with me, I hope my dream to see a woman in the White House become a reality in this election.
Posted by: janephilip | September 1, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am
I dont know if McCain was considering everything, this pick just seems kind of rushed.? Obama will find it if there is anything on this girl.
Posted by: Peter | Aug 30, 2008 12:04:40 PM
I have no doubt. Obama is an expert on dirty tricks. Look what he did to Hillary.
Posted by: janephilip | September 1, 2008, 5:14 am 5:14 am
This pick was PLAIN stupid and you Repub’s know it…..
Its Popeye & Oliveoil
Posted by: Ernest T Bass | Aug 31, 2008 8:48:10 AM
Funny but I’m not surprised that all the male chauvinists have come out attacking Palin.
They must be terrified of a woman in the White House.
Posted by: janephilip | September 1, 2008, 5:17 am 5:17 am
Remember what Hillary said “No Way, No How, No McCain” Palin does not represent nor stand for any issues/policies the voters of Hillary Clinton stand for. Palin represents only one thing and anyone with 1/2 a brain knows what that is.
Posted by: Linda | Aug 31, 2008 2:45:22 PM
Hillary stood up for women’s causes. I am sure she has changed her mind now that Palin is on the republican ticket.
Posted by: janephilip | September 1, 2008, 5:25 am 5:25 am
Palin is my real American hero.
After waiting 24 years to have another women on the Presidential ticket, I have only one more thing to add:
YOU GO GIRL!!!
Posted by: janephilip | September 1, 2008, 5:27 am 5:27 am
never knew americans were so dump,somtimes u embarrass us all..u have a candidate like never b4,y not give him a try atleasr for change..
Posted by: 4real | September 1, 2008, 6:04 am 6:04 am
You people are idiots! You’re going to switch your party just because a woman is on the ticket? OMG, I’m embarassed that the women in this country are so brain dead.
Since when do you need to be more qualified to run the local WalMart than you do to run the entire country?
Posted by: Sharon | September 1, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am
Palin nearly insulted HRC we all know that…
I was just wondering what would have happened IF Obama had called HRC “a whiner”?
Posted by: Avembe | September 1, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
I have just one question for all of you feminist. Where were you when Ferraro was on the ticket?
Posted by: william | September 1, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Obama the empty suit can’t win this election. He’s a disaster.
He should have taken advantage of the Clinton’s popularity and the love still felt for them throughout the world.
Obama never won the primary. Obama stole it from Hillary.The world watched the DNC hand the nomination to Obama by silencing voters.
Obama has destroyed the Democratic Party because of his own self centered narcissist personality.
The media can say what they want about Obama winning the primary but voters know the truth, especially Clinton supporters. Obama ignored voters. Florida and Michigan will never forget it.
Obama and Michelle were given a second chance to put Hillary on his ticket, but instead chose to hog the glory and embarrass the Democratic Party.
Obama could have won these women over.
Now McCain is winning the Hillary women with his VP pick.
Obama is risky, radical and not a great patriot.
Remember: Rezko, (the criminal), Reverend Wright (the anti Semitic racist) and William Ayers ( Obama’s coworker = domestic terrorist)
God is watching and the world is staring at our unfair voting process.
The Democratic Party is embarrassing.
Posted by: Al from NJ | September 1, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
After reading all of the blogs on this message board, I have to tell you guys that I find it appalling how the so-called Hillary supporters can be so quick to vote for McCain knowing that 95% of Barack and Hillary’s policies are the same. You all are just not getting it and when this country ends up being a third world country under the McCain/Palin presidency, I don’t want to hear any of you Hillary supporters who voted for McCain complaining about jack! If people cannot get past their prejudices (because that’s what this is really about) and would rather see this country fall to its knees then this country will deserve whatever it gets as far as I’m concerned. For the Hillary supporters who are women, if you’re planning to vote for McCain you can kiss your women’s rights good-bye and you would have caused other women who voted for the right candidate (Obama) to suffer because of your stupidity.
I’ve read several blogs talking about how Obama treated Hillary but what about how Hillary treated Obama? She wasn’t exactly polite herself by no means. She tore Barack down every chance she got so if she can throw a punch then she should be able to take them including from the media, just as Obama did. Some people in this country are so jaded to the point that if you’re not a person coming off very forceful then people think you’re weak. If Obama had attacked Hillary the way she attacked him, he would’ve been called all kinds of names. I am so sick and tired of people complaining about how Barack treated Hillary when she didn’t treat him with any respect. You reap what you sew. As an Obama supporter, I hope that they don’t have Hillary attack Palin because that would just be another excuse for some people to say that Obama is weak. He must not be too weak, he won the nomination and NO, he did not cheat and the media is not to blame, he had a better strategy than the other candidates and his policies are much better than what the repubs are offering. This bickering back and forth amongst supporters is gettting ridiculous! I’ll be so glad when November comes so we can know the fate of this country. Whatever the choice is, we’re gonna have to deal with it and that’s why it is important to make sure we set our differences aside and not vote for the candidate who will lead us to another 4 or 8 years of Bush. I don’t know about most of you, but I’m not making a 6 figure salary so I can’t afford another 4 years of the same. Like Barack said, “Eight is enough”.
Posted by: LadyT | September 1, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Lady T, Don’t worry about those idiots that don’t have the brains to figure this out as we have. The same was true when Gore and Bush ran. They were so sold on Bush that they could not see what Gore had to offer. Now you can’t find anyone that voted for Bush. Strange!
Posted by: william | September 1, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
all of you self righteous hypocrites,vote for palin because she’s a woman, you show me that you have no brains, only female desire to run and rule.
Posted by: bey | September 1, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Why is it Hillary Clinton’s responsibility to pull the Democratic Party out of the hole they dug for themselves? Let me get this straight: She is NOT the nominee; she is NOT the VP nominee. But suddenly, the failure of the democrats to excited the voters to their side is HER fault?
Get real!!
I am an Independent voter and my former-Hillary vote will go to McCain/Palin. I listended to Hillary’s speech and thought she showed great class and dignity — much more than the DNC showed her! I just don’t buy it.
…and the last time I checked I still owned my own vote, dispite Obama and the DNC.
Posted by: Teri Ann | September 1, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Women! Women! Please do not be fooled by the simple essence of being a woman. This country is not about woman, man, black, white, southern, northern, etc. Do you truly understand the issues at stake? We have no idea who will be on this earth tomorrow, next year, and/or 4 years from now. But we do understand what we need today. We NEED better heathcare. We NEED equal rights for women. We NEED a better foreign policy. We NEED a better educational system. Does Palin stand or understand any of this – NO! So before we stand as women understand that we are Americans. ObamaZ and Hillary stand for the same. And for that I have the passion and understanding to support Obama.
Posted by: Zoe | September 1, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
May I add, if Palin was a man we would not support him because of his views on very important issues. Do women not understand that McCain has slapped us in the face by acknowledging that the best woman he could select to try and “woo” women is one of the most under qualified woman to be Vice President. Vice President, does anyone understand what that is? Well Palin doesn’t. As women if we vote for Palin we are vocalizing our support of lowering the glass ceiling.
Posted by: Zoe | September 1, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
I can’t believe the uneducated voices on this website:
1) Obama did not STEAL anything from Hillary. He won by all legal accounts. Hillary’s campaign managers were her ultimate downfall. They mismanaged her budget and her campaign strategies.
2) Hillary is $22 million dollars in debt. The DNC and Obama are helping her to eliminate that. Former candidated aside, as a loyal democrat, US Sentator, former first lady, and one who is being helped financially, she should support the Democratic nominee.
3) Palin is no Hillary and Hillary of all people should be insulted by their strategy to take her supporters for a woman who is not qualified and would do more to set back women of this country.
4) As a dual resident of Arizona and Illinois, I can tell you that Obama has done more good, created more change in his short tenure as a state and US Senator than McCain has done in a lifetime. After many years as a senator, McCain has little to show for himself. He’s a hot head known to be reactionary before he thinks through ideas.
Bottom line -those who want the American rights of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness to be further eroded, those who make $3 million dollars a year or more, those women who want their rights of equal pay and reproductive decisions taken away, and those who want to be in Iraq for the next hundred years SHOULD vote for McCain/Palin.
Posted by: barb | September 2, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
Barb said:
2)” Hillary is $22 million dollars in debt. The DNC and Obama are helping her to eliminate that. Former candidated aside, as a loyal democrat, US Sentator, former first lady, and one who is being helped financially, she should support the Democratic nominee.”
There have been deals brokered between the Clinton & Obama campaigns. Obama was “suppose” to help with Clinton’s debt, as is the customary thing to do, and Hillary agreed to throw many top donors his way. Well, turns out…Hillary lived up to her end of the bargain…Obama, not so much! Clinton’s donors have already raised millions for Obama. Obama has done very little for Hillary to date. A very big reason why tensions were so great between both camps.
Hillary is no longer $22 million in debt. She never wanted the $10 she loaned herself, so we were only looking at $12 million or so. Many of us ardent supporters have supported her in her debt reduction, and, last I read, many vendors were now being paid off.
Obama never seemed to think he needed the Clintons or her supporters, but his arrogance could be his undoing.
Hillary has already campaigned far more for Obama than past candidates did for their opponents. Most candidates didn’t even endorse their opponent until the convention,but Hillary was put through hell for waiting four days to endorse!!
I’m sick of the sycophantic media for Obama. Only after the fraudulent tactics Obama’s party activists used at the caucuses, which gave him a pledged delegate lead(as IF, this represented the “will of the people” ha)was he vetted in the least. Do you really think he would be the nominee if the msm hadn’t held the Rev. Wright story for so long, and are still holding stories….
Posted by: kmb08 | September 2, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Does anyone realized that Obama would have to deal with Bill and not really Hillary, as evident during the primaries. Had Hill stepped up to the plate and shown she could handle her own without Bill’s further blundering, Obama would have picked her! She showed she is not ready to play quarterback in the game.
Posted by: gee | September 4, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Any Hillary supporter who votes for McCain-Palin is not a true thinker and supporter of Hillary. Don’t you realize that everything that Hillary stands for is the opposite of Palin? Are you willing to risk the plight of your country for revenge? Come on!!
Posted by: Bev | September 12, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm