Hillary’s Ringing Endorsement

It may be that if Hillary Clinton can’t bring herself to totally and unequivocally endorse Obama, she’ll find herself tossed out in the cold by those democrats who really, really want to win the White House no matter who the candidate is.

If you are in the superbowl and your come out the losing end of 20 to 19 score…you still loose and the team that score 20 is the winner and takes home the trophy..there is no do over..lick your wounds and congratulate the winner…please let all this nonsense END and move on!

an illusion of power makes one drunk

I love you Hillary!!
You are tougher than Obama and Biden put together.
You didn’t win the primary but you won our hearts!
Time to throw back a few shots and celebrate your success.

“Ringing” endorsement, indeed! With endorsements like this, who needs enemies? Another political pundit, Mark Shelds of the “Boston Globe,” described this as “the psychodrama that is the Clintons,” words which were well-chosen. What Sen. Clinton fails to recognize is that if she and her husband contribute to the slightest appearance of fostering disunity or of sabotaging Sen. Obama’s campaign, then people will remember come 2012, 2016, or whenever she runs for nationwide office.

Clearly “give or take” is code for “don’t support Barack Obama no matter how many times I tell you that’s what I want you to do”.

She lost, get over it.

I used to be on the fence, not caring much about either Clinton or Obama winning the candidacy – either one would do.
But I’m now getting increasingly irritated by Hillary Clinton. Who exactly does she think she is? She’s beginning to resemble Joe Lieberman. Does she know that she’s not just an individual politician, but also a committed member of a political party that has already decided on its candidate for the presidency?
If she truly can’t bear to support the chosen candidate for her party, then maybe she should stop being a member of it. She’s not being disloyal to Obama, she’s being disloyal to the Democrats.

Hillary just doesnt get it!. Why doesnt she tell the world that Vice Presidency was supposed to be handed over to her because she is entitled to it.

Obama more or less considered HC for the VP spot and Hillary give or take endorses Obama. Isn’t it a very balance relationship? If Obama has to rely on Hillary to ‘deliver’ her supporters to him, he really underestimates their intelligence and if he cannot win their support on his own, he’s just plain not ready to win anything. Stop blaming HC for Obama’s woes. He is who he is and he gets what he can take.

Yeah “give or take”. He did get less votes than her. What is the question here?

I’m sick and tired of Republicans and Obama supporters dissing the Clintons. This convention is about Obama/Biden. If I didn’t know better myself, its the Republican attack machine wanting to drive a wedge between Obama and Clinton supporters so there is a rift to sell news. Obama supporters get over it and be glad about his nomination. Clinton supporters know that the Republicans want to divide and conquer. McCain can not be elected. If you want the economy to remain the same just because you’re mad at somebody, you guys are bordering on insanity. You’re democrats so act like it. I was a Clinton supporter and I know a Republican strategy when I see it.

p.s.
Obama should have learned from the Chinese:
“Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer”
Imagine if he’d announced that he wanted her on the ticket and praised her to the rafters? Could she have ever refused? If she did refuse and he lost, she’d get a good portion of the blame for abandoning her party in their time of need.
But his pride has kept her off the ticket and she’s free to send mixed messages. Undermining his campaign while retaining plausible deniability about her supporting the party.
Look for many weeks of carefully parsed statements.
Checkmate Obama.

People voted for Clinton because she was the best candidate. Now they are voting for McCain because he is the best of our choices. Obama is grossly under-qualified so many democrats are not voting for him, not because secretly Hillary is telling us to vote McCain. Conspiracy theorists are running the news.
Democrat for McCain

There isn’t much difference between McCain and Clinton. This is why many Republicans aren’t too fond of McCain. As I heard someone say; “the Democrats have nominated the ONLY Democrat who can lose and the Republicans have nominated the ONLY Republican who could win.”

Sammy,
I’m sorry to have to say this, but you seem ill-informed, so let me help you out.
As has become clear, Hillary Clinton would never have agreed to becoming Obama’s VP.
That was made very clear when the Clinton campaign told Team Obama that it did not want Hillary to go through the usual vetting process.
Numerous reports, from numerous separate sources, have corroberated this.
And from what I hear, Clinton herself told a small group of campaign managers that “no”, she would not accept the Veep-slot. One day later, the campaign team was effectively dissolved.
And don’t forget: tough-loving Republicans like you thought that John F. Kennedy would be a Democratic push-over. So did Nikita Kruschev.
Truman? “Pushover”, you say.
This man took the final decision on nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and then he stood up for freedom in Korea.
Lyndon B. Johnson? “Pushover”, you say.
Jimmy Carter? “Pushover.”
Carter Doctrine, Pershings in Europe…?
Bill Clinton? “Pushover.”
Haiti, Serbia, Sudan, Iraq…?
I could go on.
Now, I’m not a big Obama fan. But even the miserable failure George W. Bush was able to show resilience when it was needed – right after 9/11. (That’s excluding invading Iraq.)
Just as you Republicans have always cut Reagan, Bush and Bush some slack, try keeping an open mind on others.

Oh, give me a break. I saw that press conference today, and it was clear in its support of Obama.

Absolutely, Sammy. I can’t think of another Republican I’d vote for; I’d probably stay home. But I’ll be proud to cast my vote for John McCain. It would have been truly bittersweet to have to cast a vote for Hillary over him in the general.

Kaj
“As has become clear, Hillary Clinton would never have agreed to becoming Obama’s VP.”
Probably true. But he fell into her trap and he could have prevented it if he was savvy.
Remember when Biden was announced and there was that story in the press that she wasn’t even vetted? That was the Hillary making SURE everyone knows she wasn’t considered? Remember her announcement after her conceding that she’d consider the VP slot?
That was the set up.
She’s now free to undermine him, subtly, and say “I told you so” in 2012.
Hi only way out of the trap would be to make a big deal about how the party NEEDS her to be the VP. Make it public, make it an appeal! There is no way she could then say no and not escape blame if he then loses.
Hi lack of experience is really showing here. This is BASIC stuff. If he can’t handle this….

Kaj
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! You have summed my sentiments exactly. She is acting like some pouting child who didn’t get her way, and is hiding behind the fact of the number of votes she received. We are aware and RESPECT that. however it’s time to move on. And it is a total disgrace. No wonder, they don’t want a women with her finger on the “button” who could trust someone who harbors resentment this long? that’s why I can’t vote for McCain. I know a lot is made of his POW exprience, and how that makes him the best choice for president. Why? because we feel sorry for him? He was in a POW camp for 5 years? well then, he wasn’t acually “in the war” not fighting or advising anyway. I do so much respect his service, however, I don’t think that makes him any better qualified to be President.

THe CLINTONS WERElam the Democratic Party.
And when Obama falls on his face this year, don’t blame the CLINTONS!
Posted by: EYES WIDE OPEN….” | Aug 25, 2008 4:29:48 PM
That’s exactly why Hillary was voted against. She and Bill thought THEY were the democratic party. The party is much bigger than them. Everyone was tired of their superior attitude, especially thinking she was entitled to the nomination and obviously still does. No more dynasties in the white house. The other 18 million of us has spoken. And I’m afraid some will blame the Clintons if he loses.

“give or take” means she got MORE POPULAR vote than he did, about 500.000 more, according to David Gergen, CNN.
Since she did, she has every right to shout it from mountain tops. The same people that have been trying to silence her since February of 2007 are the same ones that cried for years of how Bush stole the election. Well, get over it, you learned well and now it is our turn to cry for YEARS how Obama stole the primary.
And as for the threat that she will have no support in 2012 if she or we don’t pony up, guess what, just like we have denied Obama our support in November, we will deny him our support in 2012, in 2018. Plenty of time for him to be legally disqualified for the fraud that he is.

Hillary Clinton has had her share of gaffes, and apparently let out another. But I don’t question her sincerity of wanting what’s best for the country. Early on in the race, she made it clear she would support Obama if he were the winner.

“Ask yourself these two simple questions.”
But remember one more thing. People never change. How Obama is now is how he’ll be after you pull the lever. If questioning him now makes you a racist then you’ll be a racist again if you question him. If he’s automatically *entitled* to your support now, he will be later…

Please stop the back and forth attacks. Please start thinking about the issues and the severe damage from a John McCain Presidency. Our financial future has been mortgaged for generations to come from the Republican deregulation of the financial industry and futures trading. The Iraq and Afghanistan war cost are not included in the huge deficit figures.
The primary force behind the damaging deregulation was McCain’s friend of 26 yrs & his financial adviser “Foreclosure” Phil Gramm & his wife that belong in prison
Within hours of 9/11, McCain started to attacking Iraq, Iran and Syria. “There is a system out there or network, and that network is going to have to be attacked,” Mr. McCain said the next morning on ABC News. “It isn’t just Afghanistan,” he added, on MSNBC. “I don’t think if you got bin Laden tomorrow that the threat has disappeared,” he said on CBS, pointing toward other countries in the Middle East.

Whatever potential damage a McCain presidency might or might not do, the damage from an inexperienced and politically naive President should also give you pause.
If Hillary were the nominee we could have a lengthy debate about policy, but with her out of the picture we have to have a debate about minimum competency for Commander and Chief.
No matter what a candidates position may or may not be a weak President will be and ineffectual one. How far back did Jimmy Carter’s Presidency set the Democratic Party?
Do you think Obama is the next Kennedy or the next Carter? And how bad do you think a McCain presidency would be? Those are the questions to ask.

Didn’t Hillary just say a few days ago something about “my opponent”?

Obama has the same or more experience than several of the higher rated former Presidents:
Barack Obama
Federal Years = 4 State Experience – 6 Total = 10
Hillary Clinton
Federal Years = 8 State Experience – 0 Total = 8
Abraham Lincoln
Federal Years = 2 State Experience – 8 Total = 10 Rating = 2
Theodore Roosevelt
Federal Years = 2 State Experience – 4 Total = 8 Rating = 5
Ronald Regan had eight year
Federal Years = 0 State Experience – 8 Total = 8 Rating = 8
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Federal Years = 0 State Experience – 0 Total = 0 Rating = 9
Woodrow Wilson
Federal Years = 2 State Experience – 2 Total = 2 Rating = 11
Grover Cleveland
Federal Years = 8 State Experience – 0 Total = 12 Rating = 12
Franklin Roosevelt
Federal Years = 6 State Experience – 6 Total = 12 Rating = 3

eyes wide open, I’m not saying I wouldn’t vote for Hillary if she were to run again. I just don’t know. But I’m sure a lot would be adamantly against it, just like Hillary supporters such as yourself that would never vote for Obama.

Let McCain have the presidency. He is so much better than Nobama. However, to keep him in check so he doesn’t give us more of the same Bush style of governing, make sure the democrats take over a larger majority in the senate and the house so they can keep a tight rein on him. The majority they now have has been ineffectual in curtailing Bush’s antics because it is not large enought to override the veto happy jerk.

Let’s enjoy this GREAT moment with our fellows in Moveon.org. How are you guys doing under the bus? Winter is coming, did your friend Nobama bring you any clothing?
Yahooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“then people will remember come 2012, 2016, or whenever … “

It’s comical to watch democrats fret over this for one single reason. The Clintons are simply doing what they’ve always done, and that is act on behalf of the one single thing about which they have any interest: The Clintons! But, now that their malignant narcissism has turned inward onto the Party itself, democrats are just shocked, shocked!
And, Senator Obama’s decision to hand over two full nights of the convention to the Clintons speaks volumes about his obviously faulty leadership skills. It suggests that as president he might send Putin in to keep peace in Georgia.