Ich Bin Ein Georgian

But Georgia started the invasion in Ossetia.We are backing the aggressors. Look up foriegn press outside of just BBC, and you will find the truth in this matter. America is expanding NATO to pressure Russia, and Americans are dying for nothing in another unprovoked war of choice.

So McCain is perfectly comfortable saying he’s a Georgian, but he gets all hot and bothered when Obama talks about being a citizen of the world?
Jingoism when it suits him, I guess …

if i rember corectly the republics broke away with their borders in tact, the current russia is the soviet union minus the republics putin wants it all back
hello wake up

Easy there Tiger,
Obama would have spoken too, but he’s too busy catching some rays in Hawaii. And we all know better than to bother BO when he’s on vacation, if you recall last time

As an update can the text of McCains speech be provided?

Hey Obama fans, pick your critique.
Either McCain’s a know-nothing or he’s a Georgian stooge. He can’t be both.
Given that he’s been there, gone jet-skiing with Saakashvili, and knows all of the players personally, I think that the latter is your better play, if you must insist on siding against Georgia on this one.

Another distraction? Another threat?
John, Misha is you friend? You advised this action?

I’m not.

Hey, I’ll say it … I consider McCain’s statement presumptious. I’ll even say that I don’t agree 100% with his “take” on the situation.
But, you know what? At least he has one.

McCain may be a Georgian
but he should leave others
out.
Instead of bogus proclamations
about Georgia, he should get
out of Iraq starting today so
Iraqis can be free and prosperous.

“Look at the foreign press outside of just BBC, and you’ll find truth in the matter.”
Ick – You can look no further than Reuters to get the facts, such as Georgia invading Ossetia late last week with an estimated 2000 fatalities and their bombing occurring almost entirely on civilian targets. When you mix entertainment, the commercial and political slanting with news, all sorts of interesting deviations from the actual news occur.

Senator is corect about supporting the Georgian people..but the Russians are finding that their borders are closing up..I can’t see that the Russians would fear a USA attack..that gives me the understanding that Russia has more private thoughts concerning borders than POLITICS offer in the world..countries should have some security that is “mentionable”…talking that the Georgians are liars is absurd…weither true or false that statement is volatile…another example of the “un-mentionable” tales that LEAD-Russia…comparing Palestine to what Georgia might fear…leaves one without doubt that a simple life does excist in one instance and then you have the hidden persuasions of a un-friendly class…/democracy seems to be birthing Georgia…that should suffice for now.[end]

Hey why is no one talking about McSame’s Presumptuousness by claiming he ” speaks for every American” … ?
Even Busch does NOT go that far in his Russia-Georgia conflict statements …

“Either McCain’s a know-nothing or he’s a Georgian stooge. He can’t be both.”
Nah.
He can be both.

The human gaffe machine strikes again!!!!

So, McCain standing with the democracy against the totalitarian is a bad thing? And Russia didn’t provoke this whole thing (through increased attacks from their Ossetian puppets) in order to move their troops in? The Russians moved at an alarming speed, Which almost certainly meant they were planning this whole thing in advance. Obama supporters back the Russians in this affair?

1. McCain might have called the Georgian President by his nickname, but he also mangled the pronunciation of his last name.
2. I know Georgians. Georgians are friends of mine. You, John McCain, are no Georgian.

Just saw one of McSame’s supporters (and former Bush Defense Dept. official) say that we should be prepared to provide the Georgians with “technical advice, arms, and troops if necessary.” Arms and troops from where? We’re going to need to reinstitute the draft to keep McSame’s threats credible.
Is there a problem in this world that this war-mongering yahoo doesn’t think he can solve by either the threat or actual use of force? While McSame’s been sabre rattling, the French have quietly managed to broker a cease fire agreement.
Just as distressing as his war mongering is his lack of judgement in making someone who was a lobbyist for the Government of Georgia until March of this year his main mouthpiece on this affair. The mind faileth.

Funny headline.
Reading up on the recent events leading up to this conflict I find myself revising my very anti-Russian opinion of yesterday. Not that I have become pro-Russian, I just don’t know what to believe.
Two questions remain to be answered:
- Who fired the first shot?
As in any war, each side say the other did it, and I haven’t come across any credible, independent reporting on what really happened. Apparently, Georgia launched an operation into South Ossetia thursday evening. But why? And Russia’s response was so swift and overwhelming that I find it hard to believe they were just responding to an aggression. This has got to be planned, or at least anticipated.
- What will Russia do next?
Hopefully, this will help answer whether this war was part of a Kremlin masterplan or just a response to Georgian aggression, as they claim.
One thing I have learned is that the Bush administration have been playing with fire in Georgia by providing military equipment and assistance, working to include Georgia in NATO and using a rhetoric that led Saakashvili to view USA as a big brother who would keep him safe from Russia.
America let him down. Putin won this round. For McCain to continue using the same rhetoric is like a sad echo of a failed policy.

NATO is not monolithic. Germany
and Russia are close. France is
not a reliable ally. Bush and
McCain are misguided if they
think the Europe of today is
the same as it was in 1960.
These two gunslingers have been
using Georgia among other things
to taunt Putin for a long time.
Their brand of foreign policy
and distaste for dealing with
the problems at home are the
reason why the country has come
down a few notches in the last
eight years.

“I know I speak for every American”
If Barack Obama had said that, we would be hearing from the media how presumptuous Obama is.
But since McCain said it, it’s spun off as speaking emotionally about the crisis.
More double standard.

No, not today John. I, for one can not afford it. I’m spent on this war on terror bull—-in Iraq. This Georgia thing is just way too much. Fact is your buddies in the White House have gotten fat off of their war profiteering. It’s only natural in this ‘target rich’ geo-political enviroment that you would be drooling over this ‘shot at the ruskies’. I can not afford your lust for war. We are spreading ourselves way too thin as it is. This man is insane, I’m afraid if we elect McCain…we ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

How dare McCain speak for america when he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Georgia initiated this and now McCain jumps at the chance to get us involved in another war. Especially when his top advisor made bundles advising the government of Georgia. Sounds like Iraq all over again.

McCain is repeatedly showing a lack of insight into international affairs. He is demonstrating that his previous military and POW experiences don’t transfer into sound commander-in-chief assessment and strategy. Unless you perceive Bush as an appropriate model.

McCain is repeatedly showing a lack of insight into international affairs. He is demonstrating that his previous military and POW experiences don’t transfer into sound commander-in-chief assessment and strategy. Unless you perceive Bush as an appropriate model.
Kat
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I couldn’t agree with you more. When you replace Georgia by Irak in his discourse, you realize it could have very well been the same person.

This conflict is all about Russia flexing its muscles and an oil pipeline that runs through Georgia that the Ruskies can’t control. It was also a test for our reaction. McCain reacted appropriately; Obama didn’t even understand the history or repercussions of what’s going on.
We so often have to look beyond the apparent truth to find the real truth. At first glance, it seems Georgia struck first. Then we see how quickly Russia responded – and how they struck the oil pipleline which was nowhere near the conflict.
The world is not a rosy Kumbayah kind of place. It’s a murky, muddy place where the bad guys often win and the good guys have to be on constant vigilance.

I wonder if McCain is getting a bit carried away with the whole georgia thing. Its going to be virtually over, at least from a media standpoint by the end of the day, and he has said virtually nothing about anything else for the last few days. Meanwhile Obama is resting and relaxing whilst the media worries more about Michael Phelps. For all of the ‘should Obama still be on holiday’ stuff of the weekend, he has had a rest, and I doubt McCain will get much of a blip in his ratings over Georgia.

I’m not a Georgian. McCain is sounding an awful lot like Bush/Cheney/Wolfowitz with his bellicose remarks. Talk about presumptuous (and stupid). Butt out dummy.

I feel bad for the people of Georgia for what has happened there…but, please don’t drag me into the affair, John McCain. A little presumptuous to assume that you speak on behalf of the American people, don’t you think…at least wait until November. Oh wait. You won’t be able to do it then either.