Independent Group With Links to McCain Campaign Assails Obama on Ayers

If McCain picks Romney watch that little lead mccain has disappear. Romney will Hurt McCain with the evengelicals and christian base of the Party, they will turn and Run. Put Huckabee on the ticket and get the Base excited all ready, Then you can win this thing. No one is going to “Not” vote for McCain if he picks Huckabee., If he Picks Romney There will be a ton of People that Wont Vote for McCain. Whats really going on is Romney belongs to the RNC. The RNC wants to make sure that they stay in power. By putting bush 4 in office ie (Romney) after McCains term is over. The RNC dont like Huckabee because he is more for the working class. That is blasphemy in the GOP. Y McCain will lose if he picks Romney

Interesting note is that FOX News refused to run the Ad.

I cannot wait for the debates between John McCain and Barack Obama. McCain says what he thinks. Obama says what he thinks people want to hear. John McCain changes his mind on an issue when circumstances change. Barack Obama changes his mind when he thinks it will benefit him politically. John McCain and his wife own seven houses, all of which were legally paid for. Barack Obama owns one house, and bought it with the help of a sleazy crook on his way to prison. John McCain served the country. Barack Obama whines and criticizes his own country. John McCain is married to a woman who respects her own country. Barack Obama is married to a woman who thinks Americans can fix their broken souls by voting for her husband. John McCain is a man who has sense enough to realize there is a time and a place to criticize conditions in your own country. Barack Obama is a man who tells a 7 year old that America is not what it was, not what it could be. John McCain attends a church that respects all people. Barack Obama attends a church where the minister condemns white people, Italians, Jews, and the United States of America. John McCain has been conscious for the past twenty years. Barack Obama has either been in a coma, or on another planet, since he sat in a church for 20 years and had absolutely idea no idea what his minister was preaching or his fellow parishoners were cheering. For this moderate Democrat the choice is simple: John McCain, war hero, patriot, fine American.

The co-host of a recent top-dollar fundraiser for Sen. John McCain, Carl H. Lindner Jr, oversaw the payment of roughly $1.7 million to a Colombian paramilitary group that is today designated a terrorist organization by the United States.
McCain has done favors on Lindner’s behalf. Last May, the Washington Post reported that in the late 1990s, McCain “promoted a deal in Arizona’s Tonto National Forest involving property part-owned by Great American Life Insurance, a company run by billionaire Carl H. Lindner Jr., a prolific contributor to national political parties and presidential candidates.”

McCain can you say Keating 5

At the convention, Obama will, as usual, talk a lot but say very little. His followers will not notice the lack of substance but the vast majority of viewers will.

Prediction: the MSM spends more time discussing the ties to McCain of the group that did the advert than they spend digging for information on how close Ayers and Obama have been.

cardinal, you’re late to the game. Obama has already requested those records released. The UIC is working with the donor of the recorcs to get the records released as soon as possible.

Release the UC records without redaction.

I guess the re education of America to exactly who John mccain is…
and that big vacuum we have had about his flights and vacations and senatorial introductions…and contracts granted by in laws…and donations…etc. etc…
with His literal “best friend” Charles Keating…
while Charles Keating was fleecing America…
needs to start.
Rezko, Wright Ayres….etc
nothing compared to the billy club that is JohnMccain’s relationship with Charles Keating…
and before you all go on about ethics committee clearing him…
yeah the committee that “reprimanded” Larry Craig?
Just because McCain didn’t go to jail and people say “well he shouldn’t have been charged…
doesn’t mean the details don’t stink like a giant pile of dead fish to high heaven”
they want to talk about Rezko…bring it on…
Keating and his crimes against America (amnd his subsequent “best friendship with mccain during that time and all the favors) makes rezko look like a 12 year old stealing Binaca.

Accusing Obama of being linked to terrorism is like assaulting a teddy bear. Obama is a nice, normal guy, who speaks very respectfully and truthfully at his events. I don’t care about what the spin says. Nothing about him is scary.

This hould be a wake up call to everyone . DO NOT VOTEE FOR OBAMA.

Johm Mccain’S Fund raiser
Carl H. Lindner Jr., the billionaire Cincinnati businessman, was CEO of Chiquita Brands International from 1984 to 2001, and remained on the company’s board of directors until May 2002. Beginning under his tenure, Chiquita executives paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (known by the Spanish acronym AUC), which is described by George Washington University’s National Security Archive as an “illegal right-wing anti-guerrilla group tied to many of the country’s most notorious civilian massacres.”
Following a Justice Department indictment last year, Chiquita admitted to illegally funding the paramilitaries and agreed to pay a $25 million fine. Chiquita’s payments to the AUC began in 1997 and lasted seven years; roughly half of the funds came after the group was designated a Foreign Terrorist Organization by the U.S. State Department in 2001.

Martin says
“Fair game. Obama’s associations are even more critical to examine because he has almost no political accomplishments to justify seeking the Presidency.”
I think it is the relationships that have made Mccain successful including and especially his closest relationship with Charles Keating when he started as a Senator for years… flying on jets and Bahamaina vacations and contracts rewarded and donations…
etc…
that America actually really does not know…that we should discuss.
How about the guy whose political achievements are littered with people like Keating…and Gramm…and Black…and Scheunneman…
How about knowing the details behind his history in the Senate…
and why Nancy reagan would not speak to him for years…
and why he had introductions and parties where Charles Keating seemed to be a constant figure in his life…sipping martinis and introducing him to committee heads…
all the while the guy was committing crimes that effected ALL of America.
if it’s fair game then lets get the details out…
Obama’s details have been out for months.
Mccain’s have not.
You want to play on that field sure…
go ahead this big billy club called “the best friendship between Charles Keating and John mccain” : alson known as “the building years”

This isn’t a suprise this is the type of thing the crazy rifht wingers do over and over. But what I want to see is obama start running adds on how Mccain got in a fight with some guys in panama, the keating five, then I want to see his wife tore down for being on hieress like they did edwards wife. But Obama will probably take the high road and not mention it. I don’t know why he’s giving Mccain a ride on these there are WAY more skeletons in his closet. But who wants to pick on a tired old man.

I can no longer support Obama even my parents who were leaning to voting for him now call him Mr Dopey.

This is the most ridiculous thing the McCain camp could try to paint Obama with. It is thoroughly laughable.
McCain is bereft of ideas and morally bankrupt, and the veil of his infidelity, his growing senility of even the most basic aspects of his own life, and his dangerous Georgia/Russia foreign policy blunder, is going to be lifted in short order for the United States voting public to see in all its dishonorable vainglory.
Sorry John, you really screwed yourself going after Obama for economic issues when you yourself are totally out of touch with what really is on most American’s minds these days.

Now I think Hillary is great but isn’t this what she tried to do to Obama as well and it failed. I mean don’t get me wrong Obama does know Ayers but this is insinuating that when Obama was 8 he was building bombs with Ayers. Also isn’t this Ayers guy a well known colledge professor now? I think people are takeing this way too serious. But what ever right wingers this line of ataack is played out so waste your money it’ll be good fun. Call a man everything but a man and see were our country winds up.

If Obama’s “relationship” with Bill Ayers is relevant, let’s start asking McCain about his friendship with Gordon Liddy.

@oldspice:
At 8 years old? Give me a break. Nice vitriolic hyperbole, but it is completely stupid. If you think the American public can’t see this for what it is — a baseless smear — then you must like Jerome Corsi and Karl Rove.

Well, Obama says he has a professional association with Ayers, in whose home Obama launched his political career, Ayers, who to this days is unrepentant and believes the Weatherman did not create enough destruction, and with whom Obama has associations with through CAC. And he has the audacity to compare Ayers to a US Rep. Senator. To associate with and work with Coburn is his friggin job!
How gullible does Obama think the Am. public is. His statement is like Ken Starr saying his association with the Christian right and his position as dean at Pepperdine U. is only relative to his a flimsy association with the conservative right. Does anybody believe Starr really doesn’t hold those Christian right beliefs?

Funny how this attack ad was launched by a new, conservative non-profit group. Isn’t ‘conservative non-profit group’ an oxymoron? Then again, non-profit doesn’t mean non-agenda, non-hateful, non-spin, non-intelligence, or non-lying. Their profit may not be monetary but if their guy wins you can damn sure bet they will profit from it!

Thank you Stella. I’ll spread the word on this association. After the Republican convention Obama should air a Gordan Libby ad. Maybe in between a commercial break.

and the NRA will point out Obama’s association with the Joyce foundation

“Obama knew exactly who this man was and yet chose to nurture a personal and professional relationship with him.”
That’s ridiculous, do you do background checks on the people in you neighborhood and the people you work on charities with? And if you did find out that they had done something illegal 40 years ago but were now contributing members of the community would you refuse to work on the charities that you believed in because those people were also involved?
What a ridiculous concept.

Obama has displayed, and, in some cases actually ADMITTED extremely POOR JUDGEMENT over the span of 15-20+ yrs wrt – Rezko, CAC, Ayers, Wright, Farrakahn, Pfleger, Dohrnezko, and the list goes ON and ON – as being investigated / vetted by Dr. Corsi, Freddoso, Penn, Morris, Barnes, Hannity, and MANY MANY others!
McCAIN or Hillary in ’08 !!
Posted by: CJB in CA | Aug 22, 2008 11:25:09 AM
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That is just so sad. None of your “experts” are in any way reliable.Lame just like your candidate, McCain. Next?

-”Obama knew exactly who this man was and yet chose to nurture a personal and professional relationship with him.”
That’s ridiculous, do you do background checks on the people in you neighborhood and the people you work on charities with?-
OK, you not serious with that question are you? Have you ever done any political work? Do you know how board members are chosen? pls go away with your nonsense.

If maccain wants to deal with the past of obama, one of pro obama group has to make an ad regarding Maccain’s betrayal of first wife.
fair is fair.

Pls Go Away,
Yes, Obama knew about the bombings. If you’re a political figure and don’t know a close supporter was a terrorist….then you should be passed up on that alone.

sorry it was 1 DOLLAR A MONTH !!

If maccain wants to deal with the past of obama, one of pro obama group has to make an ad regarding Maccain’s betrayal of first wife.-
Yeah Zen, get Ken Starr to do the moralizing for you progressive left wingers.

Ads that attack Obama have a very large impact because criticizing Obama is new.
The press doesn’t say negative things about Obama, so when a new ad against Obama runs it has a big, attention-getting impact.
On the other side, an attack ad against McCain has little impact. For months the press has droned on and on and on daily with negative attacks on McCain. We are now all immune to critiques of McCain.
Obama’s negative advertising has little impact, whereas when McCain hits Obama it works – as shown by the drop in the ratings for Obama.

“Mack wrote:
McCain betrayed his wife and Barry betrayed America by becoming friends with a domestic terrorist.
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Ok, then let’s deal with the whole Charlie Black issue. He’s gets paid MILLIONS of dollars to lobby!!! So WHY, oh WHY is it Ok for McCain have THIS slimeball working on his campaign??”
Not sure. Did he ever actually build a bomb and then plant it in a building hoping to kill and maim innocent people?

Not sure. Did he ever actually build a bomb and then plant it in a building hoping to kill and maim innocent people?
Posted by: Mack | Aug 22, 2008 11:43:08 AM
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Great NON ANSWER!! McCain’s associations have MORE impact than any of Obamas. The Keating scandals caused thousands of senior citizens their life savings. Enron (and Phil Gramm) costs hundreds of thousands of people to lose their retirement and investors MILLIONS of dollars. These are REAL!!!

Why would someone that loves America as much as Obama claims he does–even want to associate at all with a known terrorist that shows no remorse?
Kind of makes owning 7 houses look petty in comparison.
And where is Obama’s distibution of wealth idea when it comes to helping out his own brother?

Cracker, and you fall into the trap. You aregue like obama. Did I say Obama was a terrorist because Ayers is? Nope.
But you cannot reason why obama has lied about his relationship with Bill Ayers. Why has Obama lied about it? Why is the university of Chicago blocking PUBLIC records detailing their workings on the Anneberg challenge? How many random people from your hood have you worked on 3 public projects with? Try answering those questions if your capable of independent thought instead of trying to act like I’m saying something I did not.
Also now I’ve got you applying double standards. if McCain comes off tough on Russia its bad, if obama does the same its good. What the Russian invasion of Georgia showed is just how far gone obama is when it comes to world affairs. he first reaction was to tell the invadee not to fight back against invasion. Yeah its always the victim that needs to calm down. Not to mention the only idea Obama could come up with is to use the UN security council….which Russia holds veto power…brilliant! But the next day Barry changed his tone to “I condemn Russia’s aggressive actions and reiterate my call for an immediate ceasefire,” Obama said in a statement.
“Russia must stop its bombing campaign, cease flights of Russian aircraft in Georgian airspace, and withdraw its ground forces from Georgia.”. How was that different then what McCain said except McCain said it the day before? It isn’t. This was McCain’s statement that the Obama campaign railed against (before of course flip flopping) “Today news reports indicate that Russian military forces crossed an internationally-recognized border into the sovereign territory of Georgia. Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory. What is most critical now is to avoid further confrontation between Russian and Georgian military forces.”. Oh yeah I forgot McCain also wanted to involve EU and OSCE. So cracker why is Obama fine for saying the same thing as McCain, especially when it was well after McCain’s statement which Barry complained about? Could it be Barry found himself completely unprepared, realized McCain knew what he was doing and did what he’s done all campaign…copy from someone else.
Riddle me this cracker, how did the obama campaign’s claim that he produced peace in our time work out with Georgia and Russia (“Today news reports indicate that Russian military forces crossed an internationally-recognized border into the sovereign territory of Georgia. Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory. What is most critical now is to avoid further confrontation between Russian and Georgian military forces.”)? I mean Russia is still there, outside the autonmous regions of Georgia, blocking the port city of Topi, capturing Georgian troops, destroying Georgian infrastructure, having chechen mercenaries run rampant over Gori, how has that all worked out?
To help you with that question here is an excerpt from independent journalist Michael Totten filed from Tbilisi ““The West saved the capital. They were moving to Tbilisi. There was one night that was very dangerous. The Russian tanks were very close to the capital. I don’t know what happened, but they moved the tanks back.” And my translator, whose husband works for Georgia’s ministry of foreign affairs, made a similar guess that the West helped save the capital. “The night they came close to Tbilisi,” she said, “Bush and McCain made their strongest speeches yet. The Russians seemed to back down. Bush and McCain have been very good for us.”

Again. Did any of them ever actually build a bomb and then plant it in a building hoping to kill and maim innocent Americans?
Which image has more of an impact; a bunch of guys walking out of a court house, or images of the aftermath of bombings on American soil of American buildings?

“Not someone who spouts off radical political theory, but someone who carried through terrorist acts.”

Which image has more of an impact; a bunch of guys walking out of a court house, or images of the aftermath of bombings on American soil of American buildings?
Posted by: Mack | Aug 22, 2008 11:50:36 AM
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The Weather Underground never blew up anyone but themselves. So the “image” of an unsucessful group and the “image” of penniless senior’s is stark. Ayers group never hurt anyone but themselves and Keating and Gramm HURT thousands!!!

Llama,
Just because the Weathermen were incompetent doesn’t forgive them of their intentions:
“Three Weathermen had blown themselves up while building a bomb in a Greenwich Village townhouse, no more than a mile from where Rudd is sitting today. To the group’s everlasting shame, that bomb was intended for an officers’ dance at Fort Dix, N.J., where it presumably could have killed not only military personnel but their civilian dates and whoever else might have been in the building.”

pls go away,
The whole mortgage thing with Johnson was stupid. I got a better rate than Johnson from Countrywide on my mortgage!!

“Did any of them ever actually build a bomb and then plant it in a building hoping to kill and maim innocent Americans?”

McCAIN is like IMELDA MARCOS. The difference is – They collect HOUSES instead of SHOES.
Oh, I forgot, he wears the $520 FERRAGAMO shoes as well.

Ok, lemme get this straight:
Barack Obama graduates from Harvard Law, with honors; President of the Harvard Law Review. He’s a hot commodity. He’s aggressively recruited and could get a fancy job at a big name law firm with a big salary anywhere he wants. He could go to clerk for the Supreme Court, if he wanted. Instead he goes to Chicago, takes a job with a small civil rights firm and starts teaching constitutional law. He is accepts positions on the boards of local charitable, community development organizations. He decides to run for a seat in the Illinois State Senate, which is being vacated by Alice Palmer (who has decided to run for Congress).
To do this, Obama has to meet all the necessary political people in the neighborhood, among them, the (in)famous Bill Ayers, who had by then become a highly-respected professor at UIC, a luminary in the field of urban education reform. In fact, Alice Palmer arranges to introduce Obama to the neighborhood as her successor at a meet & greet house party in the Ayers’ home in the small, liberal enclave of Chicago’s Hyde Park.
Now a State Senator, Obama is asked to be President of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a $49.2 million effort to strengthen public education and the quality of teaching in Chicago’s schools – part of the national Annenberg Challenge, the largest public-private partnership to improve public education in U. S. history. (Bill Ayers, by the way, was one of the founding members of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge).
So what’s the point? a bunch of liberal do-gooders trying to improve the wrecked Chicago Publics School system — Wow. Sounds really radical.
John McCain needs to get a life.

This is so ridiculous, there is no way it’ll get any traction. I know these sleezeball liars are hoping to inject this venom into the mainstream by getting a national media organization to post a story about it on their website. Forget it, nobody in the media is going to be that stupid.

Please, tell Dr. Corsi, Freddoso, Penn, Morris, Barnes, Hannity, and MANY MANY others that they are unreliable (no, it is NOT just Dr. Corsi, but ALL of them)…
The only one that is UNRELIABLE and has Terrible JUDGEMENT for 15-20+ yrs is:
NObama !!!
McCAIN OR Hillary in ’08 !!

I always hear this BS from you right wingers so here:
FactCheck staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

I’m amazed how often McCain can be linked to supporting and engaging with paramilitary groups. We already have Colombia in this thread, but there are also ties with paramilitary terrorists in Venezuela and in Haiti/Dominican Republic.

“FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate.”

About time somebody put a spotlight on his terrorist promoter Ayres.
‘-a guy who lives in his neighborhood’
Give me a break…

Newsbusters reports that Obama campaign admits that Obama lied about his vote against saving the life of a baby born alive after an abortion and the fact the media says nothing and instead makes a big deal about McCain and his so called house “gaffe”.

Obama’s mother lived her life as an atheist.
Obama’s father was buried “in the Muslim tradition”.
How is that radical?

I agree with this Ayers intent to stop that war. However I don’t agree with his methods but with Nixon what do you do?

The Georgians invaded South Ossetia and Russia came to their defense. That was a major screw-up by Georgia and one for John McCain, when he decided unilaterally to come to the aid of the Georgians after this remark from President Saakashvili:
“Yesterday I heard Senator McCain say we are all Georgians. Well very nice … but of course it’s time to pass from words to deeds.”
What the media neglected to report was that Randy Scheunemann, a top McCain adviser, was a paid lobbyist for Georgia to the tune of $800,000. With that kind of money in the lurch of course Saakashvili wanted action. For McCain to try to turn the tables and point to Russia as the aggressor is asinine and inaccurate. Not to mention the extremely poor judgment he exercised in doing so by sending Lieberman and Graham to Georgia BEFORE the arrival of the actual diplomatic channels of this country via the State Department and Condoleeza Rice. What business did they have circumventing actual, official U.S. Government policy? That was very dangerous. Russia could respond with sickening swiftness and endanger many American interests abroad easily, and the rhetoric on the Russian side was understandably bellicose as a result. The broader question the media fails to ask is why does John McCain think that trying to reinstitute the Cold War is a good thing? Note also that McCain and his surrogate Joe Lieberman have gone on record as saying they want to kick Russia out of the G8 as punishment.
How does McCain’s response square up to the facts on the ground? It doesn’t. He’s a very dangerous man indeed.
When you’re bought and paid for by the president of Georgia via your adviser-onetime-lobbyist Scheunemann, and you’re actually proud of that influence peddling making its way into your pretend presidential policy toward Georgia, I think you are automatically disqualified from being a leader of a free republic.

Here is some more:
In fact, nobody died as a result of bombings in which Ayers said he participated as part of the Weather Underground, at the New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, in a men’s lavatory in the Capitol building in 1971 and in a women’s restroom in the Pentagon in 1972. The deaths to which Clinton referred were of three Weather Underground members who died when their own “bomb factory” exploded in a Greenwich Village townhouse on March 6, 1970. Ayers was not present. Also, two police officers were murdered in connection with the robbery of a Brinks armored car by Weather Underground members in 1981. That was about a year after Ayers had turned himself in and after all charges against him had been dropped.
Ayers did say ”I don’t regret setting bombs” and “I feel we didn’t do enough” regarding the group’s violent protests against the Vietnam War. That was in a New York Times interview that was published the morning of September 11, 2001. The interview had been conducted earlier, in connection with the publication of a memoir of the year Ayers spent as a fugitive with his wife and fellow Weather Underground member Bernardine Dohrn. Ayers is now a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Obama and Ayers served together for a time on the board of an antipoverty charity, the Woods Fund of Chicago, from 1999 to 2002. Ayers also contributed $200 to Obama’s campaign for the Illinois state Senate on March 2, 2001.
When moderator George Stephanopoulos asked Obama about Ayers, the senator said he is “a guy who lives in my neighborhood … who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.”

I thought we were all educated adults who went off facts. LMAO!!!! That will be the day!

Obama needs to release all of the papers that the University of Illinois is holding, which will most likely document how closely Obama associated himself with the unrepentant terrorist. The truth is going to come out sooner or later anyway. Better now, than before he gets the chance to step foot in the White House, because once the country finds out how cozy Obama is with terrorists, they will turn away from him by the millions and he won’t be able to govern.

So, genocide is a better reason than.. Ummmmm, uhhhh, WMD’S yea thats it even though my country soild them to him. It is one big lie that got us into Iraq

This ad is a bigoted ridiculous rehash of an old story brought up months ago. The ad is an insult to a person’s intelligence as it invokes the logical fallacy of ‘guilt by association’. It is ‘red herring’ propoganda with no other purpose than to deceive the American voter’s into believing Obama has done something wrong. Obama has done nothing wrong! Barack Obama was 6 or 7 years old when this chapter in our nation’s history took place and he has stated he deplores these despicable acts which occured 40 years ago. Ayers was not punished by the government and it is hatemongering to try and blame Obama. This ad is merely more right-wing propaganda based on insinuation, the sole purpose of which is to deceive and distract the voters from the REAL issues of TODAY. This election the voters will not be fooled again, they will see thru the trickery!

And when Bush is convicted of war crimes I’m going to laugh as well. HOw many people is he resbonsable for murdering? Hmmm? WE’ve killed alot of civillans. Crazy, eye for an eye right wing ideology, is going to be the end of the human race.

I know some POW’S and they are screwed up! Just a little unstable but they can still function and not all of them are the same. But agree I do think Mcain’t gets a free pass because of that status.

Tom, “in full compliance or face serious consequences”
Let’s see, what has history learned us:
By 2003, Iraq HAD been in full compliance with all the relevant council resolutions. They had gotten rid of all WMD’s, and had presented all their documentation to proof it.
However, the US was so intent on invading Iraq, that they fabricated intelligence to ‘proof’ that Iraq had ‘hidden’ their WMD’s. Rumsfeld and Cheney ‘knew’ were they were but they weren’t going to tell the inspectors.
Now we know they lied in front of the UN. The French and the Germans exposed their lies but he US still went in illegally and unilaterely, without a sanction from the UN. The UN inspectors were still working in Iraq to search for these socalled ‘hidden’ WMD’s.
The US was afraid the UN-route would proof to be unsuccesful so they pulled the inspectors out under the threat that the US was going in.
As we all know: No WMD’s were found. No ties to Al Qaeda were found.
France, Germany and the UN were right. Iraq HAD been in full compliance with all the relevant council resolutions. They had gotten rid of all WMD’s, and had presented all their documentation to proof it.

NObana, with so little experience / exposure at the Federal / National level, is finally being fully investigated and VETTED – and it is by far more than just Dr. Corsi, Freddoso, Penn, Morris, Barnes, Hannity, and MANY MANY others!
As the vetting of NObama progressed – Hillary won 500K more votes than NObama in the final Democratic Primaries (based on NObama Elitist “bitter” remarks, et al) and, in a very recent poll Hillary is doing MUCH better than NObama vs McCAIN!!
NObama – BUYER’S REMORSE !!
NObama: NO Judgement to LEAD – esp. for US President
BTW, would have REALLY APPRECIATED the opportunity to chose between..
McCAIN or Hillary in ’08 !!

If there’s no damaging relationship between Obama and Ayers, why is the Annenburg Challenge refusing to release its records from the period when Obama served as Chairman of the Board to Ayers attempt to “revolutionize” education?

Looks like its time to take a look at the launch of McCain’s political career. It’s juicy … convicts and mob connections.
BTW … Obama was 6 years old when Ayers was leading weather underground.

Bring it on. Let’s fight the sixties culture war all over again. Did we lose in Vietnam because America was unwilling to do everything possible to win or did we lose because (as McNamarra said) it was a mistake and we never should have gotten involved.
Some one who was in the Vietnam war should have known better than to support the invasion of Iraq. That’s not lack of patriotism, it’s lack of judgment. That’s why McCain is not Presidential material.

“That’s not lack of patriotism, it’s lack of judgment. That’s why McCain is not Presidential material.’
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YOU weren’t there. YOU didn’t hear the information given to the members of our congress by Bush….. shortly after 9/11!
It is easy to “judge” in retrospect….. but who would have thought that our PRESIDENT would have lied to our legislators…..
I’m sure THEY didn’t! And “THEY” were both Democrats and Republicans!
Give it a rest!

BTW … Obama was 6 years old when Ayers was leading weather underground.
Posted by: hesingswithfrogs | Aug 22, 2008 1:20:46 PM
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BTW… that was THEN; this is NOW!.
And as recently as 9/11, Ayers stated that “he should have done more!” when talking about his bombings!
Nor is the relationship between Obama and Ayers just a casual one.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

Not true eyeswide open he didn’t say that on 9/11 he said it earlier the story was published on 9/11 and Ayers wrote that in his memoiur, Jeeze republicans can’t or choose not to read I already posted all these facts on Ayers.

The most risky person to be a President will be McCain. McCain must be asked to take an IQ Test and the results must be revealed to the public. I hope his blind followers will wake-up, then.

In fact, nobody died as a result of bombings in which Ayers said he participated as part of the Weather Underground, at the New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, in a men’s lavatory in the Capitol building in 1971 and in a women’s restroom in the Pentagon in 1972. The deaths to which Clinton referred were of three Weather Underground members who died when their own “bomb factory” exploded in a Greenwich Village townhouse on March 6, 1970. Ayers was not present. Also, two police officers were murdered in connection with the robbery of a Brinks armored car by Weather Underground members in 1981. That was about a year after Ayers had turned himself in and after all charges against him had been dropped.
Ayers did say ”I don’t regret setting bombs” and “I feel we didn’t do enough” regarding the group’s violent protests against the Vietnam War. That was in a New York Times interview that was published the morning of September 11, 2001. The interview had been conducted earlier, in connection with the publication of a memoir of the year Ayers spent as a fugitive with his wife and fellow Weather Underground member Bernardine Dohrn. Ayers is now a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Obama and Ayers served together for a time on the board of an antipoverty charity, the Woods Fund of Chicago, from 1999 to 2002. Ayers also contributed $200 to Obama’s campaign for the Illinois state Senate on March 2, 2001.
When moderator George Stephanopoulos asked Obama about Ayers, the senator said he is “a guy who lives in my neighborhood … who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.”

“Obama also correctly said that President Bill Clinton had pardoned or commuted the sentences of two Weather Underground members,” …..
and, unlike Ayers later showed that they were repentent!

good job, Joe…..
but you need to go to more than one source…..
I’ll give you a B!

So it’s okay if you are convicted and repentant but not okay if you weren’t convicted and unrepentant? This is a dumb argument with someone who just refuses to look at facts.. Or is it ok because Bill did it? I know how you really feel now.

it seems that obama has been making too many defensive statements about his questionable friends……all these questionable characters do have one thing in common: obama

Imagine Obama with Pelosi and Reid…
- Truly SCARY !!!!

Cracker, let me try to make this very simply so you can understand. Even obama came round and recognized Russia over reacted and was the aggressor. You cannot escape that fact no matter how many words you want to put on my keys.
Who said anything about militarily backing up Georgia? Not McCain. The difference is Obama could only think of the UN security council. Anything done there would be vetoed by Russia. Hell they met 5 times in 5 days and could not even issue a STATEMENT! But good to know what people in obama-land consider a good responce. In fact even to this day the UN STILL has yet to do anything.
McCain, on the other hand, called on the UN, the European Union (EU) and the Organization for Security and Co-operation (OSCE). Why those last two? Because McCain knew, unlike Obama who as usual is clueless in all things foreign, the the cease fire between Georgia and ossetia (its never been part of Russia, which makes one wonder how they got Russian passports) was brokered by and observed by the OSCE.
Also the EU could actually bring economic pressure onto Russia.
That is far from acting unilaterally and calls into question your knowledge of the basic facts of foreign policy and current events.

Ok zaggs. How do you explain Mccain’t's veiws that after 9/11 that we need to go after North korea Iran Iraq afganistan pakistan china and other nations. He basicaly calling for the United States to start WWIII. That is the hot head you people want in office. And Russia will attack Poland and agree with them for doing so.

Thank goodness courageous people are putting the truth about Obama out. And clearly Obama has LIED about the relationship with Ayers! He makes it out to be casual, but Obama launched his campaign at Ayers home….you call that casual, someone who justlives in his neighborhood? Ayers has been Obama’s benefactor for years! Another exercise in poor poor judgement from Precious Obama.
Americans will come to know the Wrights and Ayers of Obama’s ways.

” Many younger voters do not remember the Keating Five Scandal – but John McCain was the greatest hypocrite amongst the lot. ”
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EGADS!!!!
How many times must you be told… and told again…. that McCain was cleared of any complicity or guilt in this event which occurred more than twenty years ago and which you bring up like an after-dinner burp every time you run out of something to beef about!
Give it up!

Eyes wide open, it just goes to show that McCain didn’t show good judgement when he got involved with the Keating 5. Is there a time limit on bad judgement.

Eyes wide open, it just goes to show that McCain didn’t show good judgement when he got involved with the Keating 5. Is there a time limit on bad judgement.
Posted by: d | Aug 22, 2008 3:59:53 PM
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How far back should we go to forgive barack for HIS blunders?
Let’s see…… about twenty or so years ago, he was still into drugs…..
hmmmmmmmmm

@Zaggs:
I stand by what I wrote. McCain had no business circumventing the State Department. Period. If they were slow to respond it’s because Condi Rice is an incompetent boob, just like the rest of the revolving door Bush administration.
Georgia attacked a small enclave of pro-Russian Georgian citizens within their borders. But these people also had Russian passports. What’s the only way you can get a Russian passport? By being a Russian citizen. End of story.
What happened in Georgia was an act of aggression of Georgia on Georgians. Only the South Ossetian Georgians are in fact Russian of some stripe. The Russians were dying to humiliate Saakashvili and give the West something to think about over the now-ratified U.S. missile shield in Poland, so they seized this opportunity to make their point. South Ossetia, Georgia, and in fact the whole region was part of the former Soviet Union; the same Soviet Union that produced KGB-agent Vladimir Putin. Perhaps it’s not water under the bridge.
Even the U.N. security council can see this is gamesmanship between the U.S. and Russia and chose to stay the hell out of it. Don’t be so naive.

What is truely ironic is that Republicans like to portray them as ‘Real Christians’, and that Christianity is about forgiveness and not being judgemental because God is the only one who has the right to judge.
Yet, when they are confronted with Ayers who has been a bad man but who has turned his life around and has become a truely valuable and distinguished member for his community and society through his work and his charity work, all they can muster is hate.

Obama says Americans should know better but in all reality their are way too many ignorant Americans and their are some that just want to believe these lies as gospel.

Apparently Barry never learned that we are known by our associations. And his are doozies.
But we shouldn’t be surprised. He admits in one of his biographies (the first one, I think) that his favorite professors were Marxists. I can see he hasn’t changed or grown through the years either. Pity.

Zaggs -
Good memory about Obama wanting to go after Pakistan. I’d forgotten that. He’s a little quick on the trigger with some things and then a little slow on the update with others — like the crisis in Georgia/Russia.

McCain got away with just a slap on the wrist in the Keating Five scandal was by
…
I’m sure you can guess it
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Correct. Raising the POW card.
Take for instance his supporter Senator Bob Dole back then: “He has been held hostage before under very difficult circumstances. So let us not keep him hostage here in the Senate,”
Source: New York Times, October 23, 1990.

Let’s try it this way.
Peach: Ayers did not target civilians, he targeted objects. Do you believe that destroying (government) property is *always* bad? Even when you believe that you are doing it for a greater cause?
What’s your opinion on the Gaspée Affair and the Boston Tea ‘Party’?
To refresh your memory: in the first, insurgents destroyed a warship from their government; in the second terrorists destroyed property owned by a government-friendly company worth roughly $1,2 million (in 2008 dollars).

Willem van Oranje: Haven’t you been up todate with politics lately? Of course McCain can’t find Osama bin Laden in Pakastan because that country will not permit us to look for him there. Get a grip and read more. If he is in Pakastan they will not release him to us. Obama is not interested in Osama bin Laden and never will be. That was just one of his false statements made as usual. Bush didn’t even look for Bin Laden. Its too much trouble and a waste of time for us when the soldiers should be coming home instead. And we don’t want trouble with Pakastan we have enough being in Iraq.

Peter: Yes, you do have to make 5 million per year to be rich. How far do you think a million goes. There are houses and condo’s selling for a million or more. And for your information Biden was for the war like McCain and Obama said he was against it but he wasn’t in the senate when the vote was decided. He is wishy washy, a liar and fake. Get a grip. He doesn’t even have the intelligence to run this country that’s why he picked Biden. Obama if elected will be president in name only Biden will be running the country.

Fact check: Why wasn’t the original birth certificate shown on TV and I don’t mean the registration of birth. I mean the words birth certificate. Who is kidding who.

con me not: I love those true comments. And you are absolutely right. Most of the American public believes whatever Obama says because they think he is going to change the world. The only change he knows is what is in his pocket. I know that Bill and Hillary Clinton know him like a book without the cover. The only reason Hillary is supporting him is because she will run for the senate again and the democrats would turn against her. Many democrats are turncoats. They are like a bunch of cry babies. Its either or with them. Kennedy, Kerry, Carter and three turncoats that turned their back on Hillary. I don’t like any of them. And to show how crooked the DNC is they now want to seat all the MI and FL delegates but when Hillary wanted that they wouldn’t do it for her. Hillary should never endorsed Obama or campaigned for him she just should have supported him. He is making a fool out of her and she don’t realize it but I hope Hillary’s voters are smart enough to all vote McCain and leave Obama in the dust.