Aug 20, 2008 8:46pm

McCain Backs Away from Abortion Pledge

ABC News’ Teddy Davis and Rigel Anderson Report: John McCain’s campaign signaled on Wednesday that the Arizona senator is backing away from his previously stated goal of changing the GOP’s platform on abortion.

"There’s a process in place for the delegates to work on the platform and we are going to let that process work itself out," McCain spokesman Brian Rogers told ABC News.

McCain’s plan to take a hands-off approach with the abortion platform stands in stark contrast with the position he took during his first presidential run.

Back in 2000, McCain clashed with then-Gov. George W. Bush over his unwillingness to change platform language that called for a human life amendment banning all abortions.

McCain implored Bush to join him in wanting to add exceptions for rape, incest, and danger to the life of the mother.

Watch the McCain-Bush sparring here

McCain’s desire to change the platform did not end in 2000.

During an April 14, 2007 media availability which followed the Iowa GOP’s Lincoln Day Dinner in Des Moines, McCain reaffirmed his support for changing the platform.

But now that he is the presumptive Republican nominee, the McCain camp is making it clear that he has no plans to push for changes to the platform.

McCain’s decision to leave the platform untouched follows a warning from a prominent social conservative.

"If he were to change the party platform," to account for exceptions such as rape, incest or risk to the mother’s life, "I think that would be political suicide," Tony Perkins, the president of the conservative Family Research Council, told ABC News in May. "I think he would be aborting his own campaign because that is such a critical issue to so many Republican voters and the Republican brand is already in trouble."

While leaving the platform untouched would please many in the GOP’s socially conservative base, it could alienate some of the more moderate voters that McCain is hoping to attract.

"If he doesn’t change the platform, then he’s being the same kind of hypocrite that he accused Bush of being in 2000," Jennifer Blei Stockman, the co-chairwoman of Republican Majority for Choice, told ABC News in May.

"Many people think of him as a moderate," she added. "But when it comes out that he doesn’t want to change this extreme, right-wing Republican platform, the word ‘moderate’ is going to disappear from any description of McCain."

User Comments

Is ABC so desperate to make John McCain look bad that you have to go back to 2000. Make a comparison, then put it on the front page.
That is pathetic, you know that don’t you.
Why dont you do a story on tha lack of an Obamas birth certificate, that will make for a real good story.

Posted by: Bing | August 20, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Sen. John McCain, There is more than one persone who changes like YOU ! Sen. Barack HUSSEIN Obama has a History of Flip-Flops on this issue ! Please look Here ! http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/08/18/campaign-admits-obama-lied-about-abortion-vote-media-asleep
Question: Isn’t it big news when a leading candidate for president of the U.S. admits that since 2003 he has been lying about a vote he once made? Even more to the point, isn’t it big news when the candidate himself was on TV not long before that admission saying that everyone else is the liar? So, why is the media silent on the 180 degree about face that the Obama campaign has just made concerning Obama’s BAIP vote? This is why Sen. Clinton is the Best choice to lead this Nation !

Posted by: Jesse Jackson | August 20, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

Instead of wasting your time on BS like this, asking a known baby killer what she thinks, why dont you ask Obama for a copy of his birth certificate.
I bet you wont get one.
Further Ibet you wont ask for one.
Because you are not news business you are a propoganda network.
Your boy Obama is not going to win, give it up.

Posted by: Bing | August 20, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

This could be why he is entertaining the idea of a pro-choice VP. It’s hard to make everyone happy.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | August 20, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

OLD McSAME RepubliCON War Monger, BIG SPENDER and BORROWER, FLIP-FLOP and loves bush FAILURES. Hypocrite supreme!

Posted by: m | August 20, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

LOW CLASS RIGHT WINGERS+++LIE AND THEN LIE AGAIN

Posted by: TIREDOFSTUPIDASSPEOPLE | August 20, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

I bet McCain has bigger fish to fry. When McCain is elected in November, he can look into this situation.

Posted by: barry | August 20, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

HEY BING
The porch lite’s on , and your mommas calling ya…better get home now…
When you come back bring a brain…

Posted by: oldwhiteguy1 | August 20, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

So I guess he must be OK with infanticide now, right?
The Base won’t mind too much. They are pretty rational about these things

Posted by: The Commander Guy | August 20, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

C’mon ABC. Your paltry attempt to tag McCain to abortion pales in comparison to Obama’s juggling act involving crucifixes and late term aborted fetuses.

Posted by: Drake Eight | August 20, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

This guy flipps more then the divers I saw last night in the Olympics.
Just pick a position Johnny. You’re as bad as Pelosi…

Posted by: GLock | August 20, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

WHY DON’T YOU ASK JOHN MCSAME TO TAKE A POLYGRAPH ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT HE HAD FORE KNOWLEDGE, ADVANCE ACCESS, PRE-PREPARATION, ETC… TO THE QUESTIONS AT THE SADDLEBACK MCSAME SUPPORT JOHN MCSAME FORUM????? I BET HIS ASS WON’T TAKE ONE. AND FOR GOOD MEASURE, LET RICK WARREN TAKE ONE,TOO. THEN ASK HIS OLD ASS HOW HIS BIGGLEST FAILURE IN HIS FIRST MARRIAGE OCCURRED?? I BELIEVE HE AND CINDY WERE DOING THE JOHN EDWARDS IN EVERY WAY.

Posted by: TIREDOFSTUPIDASSPEOPLE | August 20, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

This is a very weak story…
Let’s look at Obama and the Resko problem. Obama, during the primary debate, stated he only knew Resko a few hours. In reality, Obama knew Resko, a criminal muslim that was convicted on 16 counts, for 17 years. Resko was his friend, supporter, and business associate. Obama owes Resko for the finicial start of his political ambition in the U S Senate.

Posted by: abe | August 20, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

What does Obama’s birth certificate have anything to do with the price of potatoes, as we old timers say.
If you believe the last 8 years of non and bad governing in this country are wonderful and want more of the same, buy all means vote Republican.

Posted by: charles almon | August 20, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Quiet day, a “no” story. Is it true McCain is now ahead in some polls. Time for Obama to display more dirty politics, but “the one” would never stoop to dirty politics.
***** McCain is the Man ********

Posted by: Charles | August 20, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Fear not, this article will be buried soon enough.
There is GIANT controversy brewing as we speak. We have tape of Obama regarding his view on abortion rights for botched partial birth abortions. He has made statements that were outright lies the last couple days.
This is going to get ugly fast.

Posted by: JA | August 20, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Any jerk who feels the need to make some kind of issue of Obama’s middle name has already LOST, not made their argument.

Posted by: charles almon | August 20, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

I am glad to see McCain is thinking, Obama has to wait on the tele-prompter for an idea.

Posted by: Baron | August 20, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Yet another example on McCain FLIP-FLOPPING. You conservatives have the nerve to get angry at ABC for reporting this. At least they are sticking to the issues. But I guess that is why you are angry.. you McCain supporters don’t like to stick to the issues. i.e. Paris Hilton/Barack Obama Comparison… yeah I guess we should start discussing what a celebrity Obama is rather than stick to the issues. Maybe then your candidate would look better. Nah he would still look like an adulterating flip flopping idiot.

Posted by: Jessica | August 20, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Experts agree McCain is already showing signs of early stage dementia.
Cindy McCain stole another woman’s husband and their children’s father. But hey, she was younger,prettier, had tons of money and ‘the war here, was HOT for the stealing.

Posted by: charles almon | August 20, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

war hero

Posted by: charles almon | August 20, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Zealibs desperate for anything to reverse Obama’s decline in the polls, I recommend that you make a big deal out of this and really energize the evangelicals and conservatives.

Posted by: HawkTheSlayer | August 20, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Of course McCain has flipped on this. He’s backed away so many time from everything he claims to believe in…there’s no “there” there. He’s a liar who’ll do anything for political advantage.

Posted by: anotherpatricia | August 20, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

That’s nothing compared to changing your religion from Episcopalian to Baptist and embracing the same criminals (Rove & Co) who spread false rumors about your fathering an illegitimate black child, in order to curry the favor of the Judeo-Christian fascists.

Posted by: Bill | August 20, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

Where is the news about Obama’s views on abortion??? There is a huge controversy going on RIGHT NOW and you blog about McCain changing positions from 8 years ago???
ABC is a shill for Obama

Posted by: JA | August 20, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

For those who support OLD McSAME. McSAME has fed at the public trough all his life. What has he done in over 20 years in Congress??? NOTHING. If he is so great, why is Washington D.C. “broken” as he proclaims in his political ads???

Posted by: m | August 20, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

Actually, ABC is letting ‘Still in Saigon John’ off light.

Posted by: Bill | August 20, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

hmmm who’s flip flopping here?http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/17/obamessiah-has-nowhere-to-hide-on-this-one-the-walls-are-closing-in/

Posted by: Kim | August 20, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Now that he is for the DRAFT, McCain needs all the body’s he can get to fight his many WARS.

Posted by: doug | August 20, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

What about a birth certificate?
Obama doesnt have a birth certificate?
How did he get into the Senate then?
Why doesnt he just show it to stop this talk about it?

Posted by: Hope | August 20, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

McCain is one of his word?
HA!
National Security Policy
1. McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.
2. McCain insisted that everyone, even “terrible killers,” “the worst kind of scum of humanity,” and detainees at Guantanamo Bay, “deserve to have some adjudication of their cases,” even if that means “releasing some of them.” McCain now believes the opposite.
3. He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”
4. In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.
5. McCain was for closing the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay before he was against it.
6. When Barack Obama talked about going after terrorists in Pakistani mountains with predators, McCain criticized him for it. He’s since come to the opposite conclusion.
Foreign Policy
7. McCain was for kicking Russia out of the G8 before he was against it. Now, he’s for it again.
8. McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.
9. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.
10. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.
11. McCain is both for and against a “rogue state rollback” as a focus of his foreign policy vision.
12. McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.
13. McCain was against divestment from South Africa before he was for it.
Military Policy
14. McCain recently claimed that he was the “greatest critic” of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as “a mission accomplished.” In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course.” In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.”
15. McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions, concluding, on multiple occasions, that a Korea-like presence is both a good and a bad idea.
16. McCain was against additional U.S. forces in Afghanistan before he was for it.
17. McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”
18. McCain has repeatedly said it’s a dangerous mistake to tell the “enemy” when U.S. troops would be out of Iraq. In May, McCain announced that most American troops would be home from Iraq by 2013.
19. McCain was against expanding the GI Bill before he was for it.
20. McCain staunchly opposed Obama’s Iraq withdrawal timetable, and even blasted Mitt Romney for having referenced the word during the GOP primaries. In July, after Iraqi officials endorsed Obama’s policy, McCain said a 16-month calendar sounds like “a pretty good timetable.”
Domestic Policy
21. McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)
22. On Social Security, McCain said he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Soon after, asked about a possible increase in the payroll tax, McCain said there’s “nothing that’s off the table.”
23. McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.
24. McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.
25. He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.
26. In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won’t commit to supporting a regulation bill he’s co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris’ former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.
27. McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.
28. McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting “irresponsibly.” His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.
29. McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.
30. McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.
31. McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.
32. McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
33. In 2005, McCain endorsed intelligent design creationism, a year later he said the opposite, and a few months after that, he was both for and against creationism at the same time.
34. And on gay adoption, McCain initially said he’d rather let orphans go without families, then his campaign reversed course, and soon after, McCain reversed back.
35. In the Senate, McCain opposed a variety of measures on equal pay for women, and endorsed the Supreme Court’s Ledbetter decision. In July, however, McCain said, “I’m committed to making sure that there’s equal pay for equal work. That … is my record and you can count on it.”
36. McCain was against fully funding the No Child Left Behind Act before he was for it.
37. McCain was for affirmative action before he was against it.
Economic Policy
38. McCain was against Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy before he was for them.
39. John McCain initially argued that economics is not an area of expertise for him, saying, “I’m going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues; I still need to be educated,” and “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should.” He now falsely denies ever having made these remarks and insists that he has a “very strong” understanding of economics.
40. McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal. And soon after that, McCain abandoned his second position and went back to his first.
41. McCain said in 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy.” By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and falsely argued that he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.
42. McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.
43. McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.”
44. McCain has changed his entire economic worldview on multiple occasions.
45. McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off economically than they were before Bush took office.
Energy Policy
46. McCain supported the moratorium on coastal drilling ; now he’s against it.
47. McCain recently announced his strong opposition to a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.
48. McCain endorsed a cap-and-trade policy with a mandatory emissions cap. In mid-June, McCain announced he wants the caps to voluntary.
49. McCain explained his belief that a temporary suspension of the federal gas tax would provide an immediate economic stimulus. Shortly thereafter, he argued the exact opposite.
50. McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.
51. McCain was for national auto emissions standards before he was against them.
Immigration Policy
52. McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. In 2007, he announced his opposition to the bill. In 2008, McCain switched back.
53. On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own bill.
54. In April, McCain promised voters that he would secure the borders “before proceeding to other reform measures.” Two months later, he abandoned his public pledge, pretended that he’d never made the promise in the first place, and vowed that a comprehensive immigration reform policy has always been, and would always be, his “top priority.”
Judicial Policy and the Rule of Law
55. McCain said he would “not impose a litmus test on any nominee.” He used to promise the opposite.
56. McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.
57. McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.
58 In June, McCain rejected the idea of a trial for Osama bin Laden, and thought Obama’s reference to Nuremberg was a misread of history. A month later, McCain argued the exact opposite position.
Campaign, Ethics, and Lobbying Reform
59. McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.
60. In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.
61. McCain supported a campaign-finance bill, which bore his name, on strengthening the public-financing system. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.
Politics and Associations
62. McCain wanted political support from radical televangelist John Hagee. Now he doesn’t. (He also believes his endorsement from Hagee was both a good and bad idea.)
63. McCain wanted political support from radical televangelist Rod Parsley. Now he doesn’t.
64. McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.
65. McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.
66. McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.
67. In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
68. McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
69. McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’” Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.
70. McCain believed powerful right-wing activist/lobbyist Grover Norquist was “corrupt, a shill for dictators, and (with just a dose of sarcasm) Jack Abramoff’s gay lover.” McCain now considers Norquist a key political ally.
71. McCain was for presidential candidates giving speeches in foreign countries before he was against it.

Posted by: William | August 20, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

The rest of the world has moved waaaay past the abortion issue. The repubs. keep it going for votes. Do you think they will ever overturn Roe v. Wade? No. It’s guarenteed votes from the Bible thumpers. Let’s move on and try to prevent unwanted pregnancy and leave it up to the woman. I feel sorry for the Repub. candidates who have to suck up to a minority of Americans who are so archaic it’s pathetic. If you don’t like abortion, don’t have one. I personally think religion should be abolished but I’m not going to spend my life trying to make it happen. Believe what you want. It’s legal and I respect that. Let’s move on.

Posted by: md | August 20, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

Open polling…I’m so confused.
I’m white,50+, male,got gassed by Daley senior in Grant Park, chicago/68. I live 7 1/2 miles from town on a dirt road. A lot of my buds were on the nam, many died there. I’ve paid soc. sec taxes for 39 years. My current retirement plan is die soon. I haven’t gotten a raise in 3 years, drive well over 100 miles a day for work so 40% of my take home goes in the tank.
This primary season I’ve been called “bitter, clingy, delusional and a whiner”. My long hair won’t cover up my red neck. I got my ged 3years out of grade school so I could work. Its all I do. I build with Habitat in my spare time and contribute to the local food bank regularly. I AM AMERICA…
Obama has been my choice since he spoke at the Dem convention. He’s differant. He MAY BE SOMEWHAT HONEST,who knows-
McCain has been lying to America since way before Nam. He has been on the government dole SINCE HIS BIRTH. Even now he’s double dipping taking a senators pay AND collecting social security. HAS ANY US PRESIDENT EVER BEEN ON SOCIAL SECURITY AT HIS SWEARING IN?
I’m old…but this guy could be MY grandfather.
Every one fears Change. BUT . If America doesn’t CHANGE she will perish!
Sorry if I don’t fit into your supposed polling.
Obama 8&12

Posted by: oldwhiteguy1 | August 20, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

First you say you will and then you won’t, then you say you did and then you don’t, your undecided now so what are you gonna do?
As the Indians of old used to say, McCain speaks with forked tongue (just like a snake). Is there any issue that he hasn’t taken both sides?
BTW, the latest thing about McCain is that he wants to reinstate the draft. I guess he realizes that he doesn’t have the manpower to wage war all over the globe at the same time, but he’s damn sure gonna try.
All in all, McCain is unfit to serve.

Posted by: lockes ghost | August 20, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

Remember that Michelle, also, wrote a letter stating that she and Barrack supported late term abortions. Both of these people should have to watch what happens in a late term abortion, when the baby is born and is alive, crying, trying to hold on to life.
I HOPE AND PRAY THAT BARRACK OBAMA NEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. HE BASICALLY SUPPORTS KILLING BABIES!

Posted by: NurseTammy | August 20, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

Poor McGoo, what next.

Posted by: puma what | August 20, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

John McCain wants the moderate vote AND the theocratic (“religious right”) vote. He CANNOT have both.
Stop juggling, John! Decide which one you want.

Posted by: Rhys | August 20, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

Flip Flopper.
Say goodbye to your children America. McCain said today he would agree to re-instate the draft.
(See New Mexico Tour today) and MSNBC’s coverage

Posted by: spoon2456 | August 20, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

Tired of TIREDOFSTUPIDASSPEOPLE Like TIREDOFSTUPIDASSPEOPLE

Posted by: RealDemocrat | August 20, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

I continue to see Obama fall in the polls and will continue to do so. The Democratic Convention this year will be ALL about Hillary Clinton:
Tuesday nite: Chelsea and Hillary speak
Wednesday nite: Bill Clinton speaks
Thursday nite: Floor vote for Hillary
Whether Obamabots like it or not, Hillary controls Obama, and I LOVE IT!
Obama cannot win without Hillary and he knows it….this is going to be good…can’t wait to see Obama’s expression as Hillary takes over the convention!

Posted by: ChicagoJane | August 20, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

This is a LAME article. I read it twice to make sure I was not seeing things. This is a clear redirect trying to protect Barak (Howdy Doody) Obama. The 5 point lead of MCCains is making the Lib Media crazy.

Posted by: RealDemocrat | August 20, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Saint Cindy also lies when she she claims to be an only child of her father – who fathered another daughter, by HIS first wife. Her half-sister is very upset.
I guess all those facelifts did something to her brain.

Posted by: charles almon | August 20, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Its apparent that after the forum this weekend that Obama cannot speak without a teleprompter or speech written by Axelrod. McCain will shred Obama in the debates, that is, if Obama is the nominee. If Hillary is the nominee, then McCain will have his hands full. I can’t BELIEVE the DNC will allow this flake, Obama, to be their nominee….I hope and pray that Hillary wins it somehow.
As far as VP picks….Obama will choose one, then if he continues to sink in the polls as he is doing, he will flip-flop and say he meant to say someone else. It will be ok, cuz the DNC and the Obamabots are so full of Obamaberry Kool Aid!
Face it, Obama is falling in the polls and is basically toast! He needs Hillary….after all, the Convention IS about Hillary this year….remember? Obama, who?

Posted by: Will | August 20, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

Where is the documentation for Michelle’s letter on her and Obama supporting late term abortions, Nurse Tammy. This is the first time I have ever heard that.
Bing,
What is the deal with the birth certificate? Are you saying Obama doesn’t have one? I thought he was born in Hawaii. Please give details if you can.

Posted by: Matt | August 20, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

Here we go again. Men and women discussing abortion. After many years of discussing the same problem, again, especially the conservative right, discuss the answer has been in our reach
always. Lets discuss male responsibility. Use those resources in and out of churches to teach males birth control and responsibity. Women in society will always see sex as love while their most counterparts will always see it as recreation. And thus the problem of unwanted pregnancy will continue. If Roe v Wade is overturned we will go back to the same. Conservative women will be able to get safer abortions(which have always been available to them under another title)
so they can put out the face of aposing
abortion and still feel safe. If you write back that doesn’t happen, you are kidding the public.

Posted by: aw | August 20, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Insted of writing in all these blogs you people need to get a life !

Posted by: Rick M | August 20, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

It would take me too long to write down how far the USA has fallen from grace since George W Bush went into office and we are still in that downward spiral. What I don’t get, how could so many people want to continue that downward spiral by voting for MCCain. I don’t get it, they say Obama has the educated voter and McCain has the less educated and the elderly. Does that mean the idiots might be running the country???McCain’s nothing but a beer peddler…

Posted by: Jim | August 20, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

We are forgetting another Obama VP nomination choice. Here is a quote from April 28, 2008:
“We both know that, if Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected.
Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls, Huffington, whoever’s doing the polls. Preachers say what they say because they’re pastors. They have a different person to whom they’re accountable.
As I said, whether he gets elected or not, I’m still going to have to be answerable to God November 5th and January 21st. That’s what I mean. I do what pastors do. He does what politicians do.
I am not running for office. I am hoping to be vice president.”
- Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

Posted by: HawkTheSlayer | August 20, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

Sheesh. So much pointless bickering. Everybody’s worried about the Iraq War, gas prices (which have been dropping consistently over the past few weeks), gay rights, and abortion (to name a few). Yes, there has been some talk on the enviornment, and some on the economy (a rare positive side effect of rising gas prices). But what about education, and research in technology and medicine? How is the US going to compete in the future with other countries? What about a secure power supply for our country (I’m all for nuclear power, except for the little problem of securing the nuclear waste)? Personally, after 8 years of an incompetent Republican as Presdient, I hope for a Democrat to assume the office. Bush has ruined much that was wonderful about America.

Posted by: someone | August 20, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – In a sharp turnaround, Republican John McCain has opened a 5-point lead on Democrat Barack Obama in the U.S. presidential race and is seen as a stronger manager of the economy, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.
McCain leads Obama among likely U.S. voters by 46 percent to 41 percent, wiping out Obama’s solid 7-point advantage in July and taking his first lead in the monthly Reuters/Zogby poll.
read it and weep dailykos kiddies

Posted by: Hilly-Billy | August 20, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

McCain hints that the VP may be a pro-abortion
candidate, then Rush Limbaugh fires a shot across
the bow warning that this is not a conservative
approach.
McCain flips his story. WHO IS RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT !! WHO WILL BE RUNNING THE COUNTRY
if McCain is elected. Looks like WE’RE the ones
waking up at 3 AM!!

Posted by: spacerook1 | August 20, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

Hilly, don’t you know polls mean nothing. Who exactly are they polling, certainly not the millions who don’t have landlines and only use cell phones.

Posted by: d | August 20, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

This is an INSANE debate and an INSANE issue. We have a war for nothing that killed nearly 5 thousand people and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. These are ALL FULL TERM HUMAN BEINGS. I don’t hear the religious holy rollers taking about that. We have an economy in the toilet and a planet burning up. Pretty soon you religious fools won’t have a planet to even argue this insane issue about either cells in a petrie dish or a FETUS yes a FETUS. It’s a FETUS. Let me say that again a FETUS. Remember when you were in utero three months into your mother’s pregnancy? OH SURE. How many of you were products of incest…or rape? You utter insipid fools wake UP full term human life on earth may depend upon it!!

Posted by: Natalie Rosen | August 20, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

Posted by: Don Corleone | August 20, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

John McSame is a loser,a flip flopper and a serial cheater.All the rightwing bigots will vote for John McSame.

Posted by: AJ | August 20, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

I can guarantee McCain will pick a pro Life for life person.

Posted by: Bing | August 20, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

My wish is that every right to lifer has a wife or daughter who gets pregnant and will die if the pregnancy continues. I bet 999% end the pregnancy!

Posted by: AJ | August 20, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

Well if McCain doesn’t pick someone who is pro life then he will lose the entire conservative base. He wouldn’t be that stupid.

Posted by: annie | August 20, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Did you watch the video at the top of the posts?
Here is another copy of it.
http://www.electionnews2008.com/obama-lies-on-abortion-again.htm

Posted by: Bing | August 20, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Hypocrite!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Geoff | August 20, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

And once again McCain tells people what they want to hear. Well politicized McBush, never say what you really think on an issue.

Posted by: JR | August 20, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Hey Bing, Obamas birth certificate is filed right next to McCain’s, in Panama.

Posted by: JR | August 20, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

WHAT DOES OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING. WHY DO YOU PEOPLE TRY TO AVOID THE TOPIC OR QUESTION BY BRINGING UP SOMETHING THAT HAS NO RELEVANCE.

Posted by: Nicole | August 20, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

Good ol’ McC-ain’t. What won’t the Pander Bear reverse himself on???

Posted by: foxisms | August 20, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

WOW…… If you are a woman who is raped by a mentally retarded man homeless man of a different race, and you become pregnant, JOHN MCCAIN WANTS TO FORCE YOU TO HAVE THE BABY. JOHN MCCAIN THINKS HE KNOWS BETTER THAN YOU WHAT SHOULD BE DONE.

Posted by: Justin | August 20, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

I’m pro-choice, but I’m celibate, so the abortion plank of the platform doesn’t really matter to me. I don’t really care about it. Right now, I’m just wondering if Michelle is ready to announce her VP pick.

Posted by: Kitty | August 20, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

John McCain continues to hold a strong lead over Barack Obama in Louisiana. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the Bayou State finds the Republican on top 55% to 38%.
Posted by: Will
************************************************
Almost fell on the floor laughing regarding the
above!
No one has telephones anymore, If they did
then they probably still are listening to their
8 track Players. Had a pollster called my cell
phone, I’d be damned if my minutes were
wasted on that crap!

Posted by: spacerook1 | August 20, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

McBush is just your regular low down dirty pol that will do anything to get elected.

Posted by: McBush's Flipflops | August 20, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

spacerook1:
I think its evident, after this weekend’s forum, that John McCain is the one America wants to receive that 3 am call. Obama, well, he needs to be back in Chicago, sleeping at 3am.
McCain 08!
Posted by: david from texas
David,
Not quite, McCain just said what they wanted to
hear, not what he is going to do. After all IF McCain
was totally against abortion, why is his family exempt from this issue. Or like he said “it’s only a
Family Issue?” Duh…

Posted by: spacerook1 | August 20, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

My wish is that every right to lifer has a wife or daughter who gets pregnant and will die if the pregnancy continues. I bet 999% end the pregnancy!
Posted by: AJ
This has been a question haunting me for a while.
If a pregnant Woman gets into an accident and the
fetus is killed, is a manslaughter or murder charge brought up against the other person who caused it?
Curiously, is anyone out there a lawyer who can
answer this?

Posted by: spacerook1 | August 20, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

Time for bed, but it SURE is nice going to sleep knowing that President John McCain will be able to answer that 3 am call!
McCain 08!
__________________________________________________
McCain is totally incapacitated at 3 Am as he takes Ambien every night for sleep.

Posted by: No Draft | August 21, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

Of course McCain is a terrible, terrible candidate who’s sold out everything he once believed in. But I really, really hate black people, so I’ll vote for an incompetent old fool rather than vote for some jumped up mulatto.
Posted by: ObamasNemesis
**********************************************
ObamasNemesis, I’m hoping that someone
is using your name illegally. This is not a
statement that is tolerated in todays society.
an i

Posted by: spacerook1 | August 21, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

Alice – why would you vote for a guy whose party stands against everything Hillary believes in? That makes no sense to me. I supported Hillary in the primaries, too, but I’ll support Obama now if it means preventing another 4 years of Republican misrule. Please reconsider!
Posted by: kelly schirmer
Hey someone with wisdom.

Posted by: spacerook1 | August 21, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

JukeBox John McCain’s persistent and daily flip-flops, and his irrational and bellicose anger will become evident to the American people. He’s been living a protected corporate media dream until now. Now Obama will go negative on McCain, but unlike McCain’s lies what is said about McCain will be the truth. The ugly truth.JukeBox John McCain’s persistent and daily flip-flops, and his irrational and bellicose anger will become evident to the American people. He’s been living a protected corporate media dream until now. Now Obama will go negative on McCain, but unlike McCain’s lies what is said about McCain will be the truth. The ugly truth.

Posted by: Frank | August 21, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

I can’t vote for McCain. He’s just another disloyal wife cheating creep. And ya, I think anybody can see that this straight shooter can’t shoot straight. He lies and lies and lies

Posted by: Scotti | August 21, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

and lies and lies and lies and lies and lies and lies and lies…Oil Slick McCain makes Clinton look like Honest Abe

Posted by: Scott | August 21, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

Let me get this straight, there is no room for an abortion when the mother’s life is in danger, on the republican platform?
I realy didn’t know that. I am not big on abortion, but this stand is ridiculous.

Posted by: Thinking | August 21, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

Hey Republicans how can you support a liar like McCain? You like liars or something??? Not just on one or two issues, he lies constantly! McCain today is not the McCain of 6 months ago, who wasn’t the McCain of 4 years ago, who wasnt the McCain of 4 years before that. If a man says he’s honest but changes his position every time the wind blows then he can’t be nothing more than a liar. McCain is a LIAR. How can you believe anything he says?

Posted by: Scotti | August 21, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

Obamas birth certificate:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert?source=SEM-google-facts-87&gclid=CP7s8IuOnpUCFQOcFQodvySxjg
Its amazing how fast McCain’s suckers will go into denial.

Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Actually Kelly, its worse than that. Alexander Solzhenitsyn never told the cross in the sand story himself, but right wingers had been going around telling the story it happening to him for a number of years before McLiar started doing it.
Its like the ‘spitting on the soldiers’ stories. There are no contemporaneous accounts of that ever happening, that only started after the movie ‘Rambo’ came out.
Most of America’s political discourse is built upon narratives that have been constructed out of whole cloth without basis in reality. A bit sad, when you think about it.

Posted by: Flash Override | August 21, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

ObamasNemesis, are you seriously trying to claim that the US President is a ‘higher pay grade’ than God?

Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

McCain’s going to have to make a choice at some point on who he is and who he pretends he is.
What’s the point in having a platform if the candidate doesn’t believe in it?

Posted by: 1percenter | August 21, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am

ObamasNemesis – McCain lied in the forum
He is using the abortion issue as a political football. He says he’s pro-life yet he’s floating the idea of a por-choice running mate. That makes him a liar.

Posted by: dan | August 21, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am

McCain could really do it. He could win and be even worse than President Bush. America, you cannot solve the problem by letting the problem continue. I am not moved or inspired by McCain’s arrogant grimace or his constant shifting to whatever sounds good to voters instead of holding to his true beliefs. McCain was for some forms of abortion, he cannot suddenly be against it. I was not impressed by McCain’s response to Georgia that sounded like childish bluster. I am not impressed that McCain can call his opponents names, in fact that is a complete turn off. Two year olds call each other names. I thought McCain was a much bigger danger to Obama when he was running a respectable campaign. Now he’s a much bigger danger to America in general spreading propaganda and trying to disenfranchise and mock the America that is angry and wants real change. He’s talking down his nose to you younger voters and poor Americans and I don’t think you should put up with it. Like Bush he’s a reckless foolish and, yes, old man set in his ways who thinks he’s always right and a person who thinks that he’s always right is almost always wrong.

Posted by: No way John | August 21, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am

From reading this board, it seems that right wingers have some serious unresolved issues from their childhood, and are desperate for a strong ‘daddy’ figure.

Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

obama supporters are sounding really desperate. obama polls are taking a nose dive with no end in sight and the convention is right around the corner…oh my! and those darn hillary supporters like myself that were projected to come on-board are well, not.
the only way i would support obama at this point is if he has hillary on the ticket.

Posted by: sonia trevino | August 21, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

BAIP?
There is a problem with your view. Why did the state of Ill. need a law that was Identical to Federal law? Word for word, worded exactly like the federal Law, these are there words not mine.
Why didn’t the good nurse then stop the deaths of those babies if there was a Federal law preventing it?

Posted by: Thinking | August 21, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

best way for Obama to lose: put Hillary on ticket.
best way for McCain to lose: put Lieberman on ticket.
we’ll see who is dumber…

Posted by: 1percenter | August 21, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

hard to argue with irrational posters. my guess is some are having fun antagonizing others. have a good time…

Posted by: 1percenter | August 21, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

Nose dive!
In Jan McCain had 45% today he has 44%
In Jan Obama had 45% today he has 45%
Where is the nose dive?

Posted by: Thinking | August 21, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

polls are for strippers.
both candidates will get a bump after the conventions. the election will be close just like the last two have been.

Posted by: 1percenter | August 21, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

Is it just becoming clearer now that McCain is, indeed, a hypocrite? It is just not just on this issue, but so many others. Did he not say, quite vocally, that he would not run a dirty campaign? Look who is running his campaign now: Karl Rove protégé and “swift-boaters” who dunked him in 2000. And despite all his previous railing against lobbyists in Washington, lobbyists are today running his campaign and are his principal advisers on many pertinent issues–the economy, foreign affairs and more. Wasn’t McCain previously against oil drilling off-shore, against Bush tax cuts for the rich (defined by McCain in the $5 million dollar range and more), against wind power, against enhancing benefits for Vets (note the GI Bill that just passed)? Now he is for all those things. This man will say and do anything to be elected President before he expires.

Posted by: Dr. Sam | August 21, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

I’m sure the hypocrits on here who say life is sacred wont tell you that they’ll kill animals without thinking twice, they’ll ignore the poor and the homeless and the inner city kids as hopeless human beings to be kicked to the curb, throw them in jail (2 million Americans in jail now and rising) they’ll pollute our earth until we’re all dead, will go to needles war where 100,000 people are killed by our bombs, will let stem cells rot in a garbage can instead of being used to cure diseases and disabilities, that’s the true pro life platform of Rove’s party. I’m willing to adopt a more pro life platform, but unfortunately I cannot support the twisted hypocritical snobs called the Republicans whether they’re pro life or not. I will support Obama who worked hard and turned down great money making jobs to help inner city kids: that’s somebody who truly cares about life! And maybe in time with education and public support, abortion can be clamped down to a very rare occurance which is the only realistic solution.

Posted by: Scotti | August 21, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

mad mike-i really do not know yet. but mccain sounds better all the time. i just really do not believe that obama is up to the task. i give him credit for lofty ambitions but that is about all.

Posted by: sonia trevino | August 21, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

actually zogby does online polls.

Posted by: sonia trevino | August 21, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

The greatest trick each party tries to pull is to have people vote against what is in their own self-interest.
There are pretty clear differences between the candidates on the economy, healthcare, taxation, spending, and the war. If you don’t know what the differences are, you aren’t paying attention. It should be pretty clear to everyone which candidate’s policies are in their personal interest. Ignore the chatter and the choice will be easy.

Posted by: MIguy | August 21, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

Can there really be any doubt that with the dirty campaign McCain is running that he wouldn’t listen to radio on the way to the event and find out the questions that were being asked? The fact is he wasn’t in a “cone of silence” as was falsely promised by the host and that throws a shadow of doubt over the entire McCain interview! He had every access he could want to the questions being asked and thus more time to formulate slick answers. The obvious give away was McCain answering quetions before they were even asked! I think McCain cheated, he’s too wiley not to have and I don’t think his campaign would’ve hesitatd to get any opportunistic upper hand it could.

Posted by: Abe | August 21, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

It doesn’t matter now who McCain adds to his ticket. The cat is out of the bag and it’s a cat he can’t put back in. You can’t even consider a pro-choice candidate if you are truly against abortion. There is no way the Christian right can justify voting for McCain. Even if he chooses the man they want, McCain can’t be trusted to make the decision they want when it comes to abortion. Once he’s in place there’s nothing they can do to stop him from making a decision to appease the middle and left and they know it. LOL

Posted by: dan | August 21, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

Calling a US senator, or any American citizen for that matter, a terrorist comparable to Bin Laden is treason. I am convinced that neo cons are truly evil and enjoy terrorism more than they hate it, they should be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail in the true American tradition. These people are not Americans, they’re anti-Americans. They hate Americans that don’t agree with them. If we continue to listen to neo-cons, the American way of life will be destroyed by white supremist fascism or theological fanaticism, pick your poison, neo con’s embrace them both.

Posted by: Scotti | August 21, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

McCain did nothing in his little show with Pastor Warren than tell the people what they wanted to hear. It was all a just a pandering show. LOL

Posted by: dan | August 21, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

I’ve been quiet for a while, but I can’t hold back any more. McCain is creepy! I don’t like that somebody who is being negative is trying to be our president. And what he did to his first wife was flat out un-Christian. I am pro life but I don’t think anything will change about abortion one way or the other. Clinton didn’t change anything nor did Bush with a republican congress, it’s not a presidential matter, it’s a people matter. We should vote for a complete change of direction in this country because I am sick of the way things are on all the other issues we are dealing with. If people truly want to outlaw abortion they should vote for a constitutional amendment, which can be done without a president. I am a devout Christian living in a red state and i do not think McCain identifies more with Christians than Obama does. I think Obama really identifies with the Bible, with marraige, and with the teachings of Jesus, whereas McCain prays only when he’s in trouble.

Posted by: Sandy | August 21, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

How do Obama supporters justify that Obama wants to continue Bush’s war on terror in Afghanistan? Of course we’ll be withdrawing from Iraq because we need to move our troops over to Afghanistan. There was no reason to invade Iraq nor Afghanistan. The threat from terrorists is real but the war on terror didn’t require that we invade a Country when there were other ways to wage a war on terrorists. Obama stood on that podium in Berlin and asked that our European allies support us in Bush’s war on terror as we march over to Afghanistan. The war in Iraq was never about WMD’s, Hussein or Bin Laden in the first place rather it was about oil and our dependency on it and the Carter Doctrine which every President since has adhered to in some shape or form. Out of the Carter Doctrine evolved our US Central Command who’s purpose is protecting our foreign oil interests, where do you think Petraeus is from? There is little if any difference between Obama and McCain on foreign policy in the Middle East- both would just be maintaining the status quo in regards to foreign policy.
Just like Pelosi and company have done absolutely nothing but continue to fund a war we should never have gotten into in the first place and what happened to Pelosi’s promise to get us out of Iraq?
Gee, if that wouldv’e happened then we wouldn’t be seeing the Democratic sweep we’ll see this Fall just like the Dems sat on Webb’s GI Bill for a couple years until it was politically expedient for them to bring up .

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Dan Tell me it’s not true, a politician pandering?

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

McCain is trying to play both sides of the issue. Flip-Flop Flip-Flop. I have NEVER seen a person truly against abortion stray to the other side, NEVER. True abortion foes are very passionate in their beliefs. There is NO middle ground. Therefore due to McCain’s Flipping and Flopping the only conclusion that is possible is that he is just saying he’s against abortion to get elected. Once elected he’ll do what he pleases with the issue because that’s always been McCain’s Modus Operandi.

Posted by: dan | August 21, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

Im not sure why all this political talk about abortion?
it would be CRAZY for anyone to ban abortion with the state this country is in thats not even debating a womens right to her own body thats just talking economy!
so why debate it? so that the religious right will feel warm and cozy about you?

Posted by: melissa | August 21, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

alpaig52 – I’m really sorry to tell you this, but yup. McCain, Obama, Clinton (both of them) Lieberman and on and on and on it goes. I think it’s a hazard of the job. People lie to get elected. It’s impossible to please everyone but you’re still expected to or you loose votes. I just wonder what lies people can live with. For one, I don’t really care that Bill screwed Monica. But I really think the right wingers care that McCain is lying about abortion to get elected.

Posted by: dan | August 21, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

i think mccain is screwed with the abortion thing no matter what he does if he doesnt flip flop he is sure to lose the right if he does then its going to be brought up as he isnt strong on his belief and is pandering all the while i think everyone knows its not going to matter because its not going to change…

Posted by: melissa | August 21, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

melissa – abortion is their top issue, even over the war. They’ve been fighting to stack the Supreme Court against abortion for years. It’s not something that’s just going to move to the back of the platform. McCain can’t win without pandering to the far right and he knows it. I can’t understand why the media has not been grilling McCain on the Flip Flopping. They are just letting it slide by. This is not an issue that can be flipped or flopped in my mind. There is no way I would ever vote for someone that would tell a woman what she can and can not do with her body. I’m just pointing out that the issue is nothing more than a football for McCain and he doesn’t care which goal line it crosses even though he’s lying and saying he does.

Posted by: dan | August 21, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am

I find it unacceptable that women’s rights are being tossed around like a political football.
Now to debate when man thinks it is ok for a woman to have an abortion takes this debate to a higher level of insanity, no matter who is president.
This attack is against women. No man has the right to play God.

Posted by: clarity | August 21, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

Dan Agreed, many have strong feelings about McCain’s committment to pro-life issues. He certainly has the voting record on reproductive rights but the fact that someone who is pro-life is also pro- stem cell research should make one ponder a bit.

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am

McCain has a pro-life record but supports stem cell research so his statement that he will have all pro-life policies isn’t true right there.
McCain isn’t a social issues guy, that’s not his thing, it’s not his priority. If McCain let’s himself be McCain then he’ll select a VP he thinks would make a good President and that person’s reproductive rights stance won’t be high priority when doing so and he won’t have a litmus test for the Supreme Court in regards to Roe vs. Wade. A reminder that any Supreme Court nominee needs to be approved by the majority of the Senate which will likely be predominantly Democrats this election and that the Judge who wrote the majority opinion on Roe vs Wade was a Republican Judge from MN, Harry Blackmun, who was appointed by the Republican President Nixon. Three of the four Supreme Court Justices appointed by Republican Presidents were on the majority opinion of Roe vs. Wade. McCain is pro-life but is considering pro-choice supporters as VP and Obama is pro-choice and has been considering pro-life supporters as VP.
Neither of these candidates are making abortion rights the end all or be all of their campaign.

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am

Ninak Obama totally caved in to AIPAC and has been very clear that he will not take a military option off the table in regards to Iran. If Israel doesn’t do an aerial attack on Iran before the end of this year you can be assured that regardless of whether it be Obama or McCain that Iran will not be allowed to go nuclear. The Middle East does not want a nuclear Iran, Israel will not let Iran go nuclear with good reason and the US will have no choice but to be involved in some capacity. Wasn’t it Obama who mentioned the 57 States? or was it 53?
what’s that, early dementia or fatigue from being on the campaign trail?

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am

What a non-issue falling attempt to attack McCain. McCain hasn’t backpedaled here, he didn’t say that he supports no abortions even in the case of rape, incest, and the life of the mother. What he did say is “There’s a process in place for the delegates to work on the platform and we are going to let that process work itself out.” Last I checked we still live in a democracy not a dictatorship. In a democracy at some point you are going to be in the minority and you have to suck it up and live with the decision of the majority. That’s life. When McCain comes out and says he actually supports unequivocal anti-abortion platform then you can call him a flip flopper on this.
Oh and alpaig52 don’t be ridiculous, there are more than enough embryos from natural miscarriages to do all the stem cell research necessary.

Posted by: Nevada Pundit | August 21, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am

Yeah, and everyone thought Edwards was the devoted husband to his wife who was struggling with cancer. Do you really believe that most of these men who have some power haven’t or aren’t cheating?
The other ones just probably haven’t gotten caught. At least McCain was paying alimony and child support while someone like Edwards was paying or having his friends pay cover-up money and McCain wasn’t running for office at the time. I don’t like this behavior on any of these guys parts either, regardless of political affiliation, but if the criteria was fidelity then most of these guys would be booted out of office or wouldn’t be able to run.
So you shouldv’e voted for a woman but then you’d probably have a problem because they stuck with their cheating spouses. Personally, I’m a bit more concerned about how they plan to turn the economy around and their foreign policy positions then whether they cheat on their spouse or not.

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am

I agree with one of the posters. ABC should look at Obama’s vote against the born-alive infant protection act (containing the Roe V Wade protection).
I am not sure why they are not touching that topic. May be they don’t want to harm the chosen one.
Fox News is really beginning to look fair and balanced.

Posted by: Roger Miller | August 21, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am

Nevada Pundit Sorry, being pro-life and supporting stem cell research still does not jive no matter how you cut it.
Also, I didn’t call McCain a flip-flopper. He’s been consistent on both abortion rights and stem cell research.
Also, I’m an independent who leans towards McCain so I have no problem with his positions.

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am

So Obama brings Biden on who has more foreign policy experience then him.
Didn’t Biden support going into Iraq?
Wasn’t it Biden who in 2005 said ,”I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain”.
Wasn’t it Biden who said in 2007 about WMD’s ” the point is, it turned out they didn’t, but everyone in the world thought they had them ” and ” this was not some, some Cheney, you know pipe dream. This was in fact catalogued”.
Wasn’t this the Biden who also said ”
the more people learn about them (Obama and CLinton) and how they handle the pressure, the more their support will evaporate”. The same Biden who said in 2005 ” McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against McCain, because I think the Country would be better off, be well off no matter who..”. Wow, he gets to come in and save Obama now that we know how he handles pressure and if they don’t win no problem because his good friend McCain will do just fine.
Good going Barack.

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am

alpaig52,
We’ll see about that…
Obama/Biden ’08!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | August 21, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am

Davis Again- any Supreme Court appointee needs to be approved by the majority of the Senate which most likely after this election will be predominantly Democrat. Also, Again,
the majority opinion on Roe vs. Wade was written by a Republican Judge from Mn, Blackmun, who was appointed by a Republican President Nixon and three out of the four Supreme Court Justices appointed by Republicans were in the majority opinion on Roe vs Wade.

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am

Davis Like Obama doesn’t have lobbyists on board his staff and like the majority of politicians, Dem or Repub, don’t have some questionable financial dealing involving themselves or someone around them. I suppose you believe Obama’s campaign funds consist of 100% donors who contributed less then $200 also?

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am

Hey, Biden won’t be able to hide from the comments he’s made on record about Iraq and Obama and McCain. But if he is brought on because he has more foreign policy experience then how do you explain his vote to invade Iraq?
his pushing for more troops along with McCain? his comments in opposition to setting deadlines on getting out of Iraq? so this is what those with the most knowledge around foreign policy support? geez, what does that say about Obama. Thank god Biden came on board I guess.

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

alpaig52,
Since over 60% of the people in this country are pro-choice, I think when it really starts getting around (especially after the conventions) it will not bode well for McCain, especially with women voters…
Women vote in larger numbers than men. As of at least a week ago (before McCain’s “performance” in Orange County in front of his right wing-nut choir) almost 17% of voters thought he was pro-choice….
He is having a good week or two I will grant him that. However, after the convention I think that Barack and Biden are going to start hammering McSenile.
Polls go up and polls go down “My Friends” and after next week when the conversion is finished you will see Obama/Biden go way up!
So I am just here informing all the ladies, that’s all!
Obama/Biden ’08!!!

Posted by: Davis | August 21, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am

Not that theres room for principles since Obama will make the whole discussion MOOT.. The man barely understands the concepts of life issues. He’ll be too busy caving in to every lobby that forms around every obscure special interest they can invent.
If the far right can’t bend, they’ll be broken off.
I’m pro-life, but how could anyone force a rape victim to carry his child?
Can anyone imagine what trama that could bring having the government not even defend HER? To have the act perpetuated further by government force??
And an endangered mother. That’s not even pro-life, it’s WHICH life! NOT your jurisdiction, uncle sammy! That’s purely family turf!
I’m with McCain.. if I understand the amendment correctly.
It wouldnt be “political suicide”, it would be a party that understands that life contains only one absolute (that I’ll ever know of).

Posted by: zak | August 21, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am

Davis I agree, the majority of this Country is pro-choice. I’m adamantly pro-choice and worked at Planned Parenthood for 10 years. Obama’s problem isn’t with younger women but rather with older women for whom the abortion issue will not be the priority it was when they were younger ( for some it clearly still will be but less so then younger women). Reproductive rights are important for many women regardless of what side they fall on but you need to remember that women are also being impacted by $4 a gallon gas prices, by rising costs of food, by foreclosures, some have children who have or are serving in Iraq or they themselves or their spouses are, that they can’t afford the premiums on their health insurance and so on. So yes, the abortion issue pro or con is an issue for women but it’s not the only issue and for some it will be the top issue and for others the state of affairs in regards to the economy or foreign policy will be at the top. Women’s concerns are not all that different from mens so abortion is not always at the top of our list. And I agree that McCain has had a good week and polls go up and they go down and where they land in November is yet to be seen. If Clinton Democrats move over to the McCain camp it clearly will not be over the issue of reproductive rights but rather regarding some other issue which they deem more important.

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am

But Biden supported the invasion of Iraq and how will he attack on McCain on that? he felt we needed more troops there along with McCain and how will he attack that? he’s friends with McCain and wouldv’ve been honored to run with or against him so why should I take to seriously any attack he lodges at McCain since it’s clearly just politics and about winning?

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am

In an election year when any normal Democratic candidate such as Gore or Kerry would stroll into the Oval Office, the Democrats succomb to their famous political suicide tendency by nominating Barak Hussein Obama. Are we kidding? Probably the only candidate who could not win on the Democratic ticket. The Dems have stabbed themselves in the political heart for the 2008 election cycle. They have allowed the radical lefties, such as Pelosi (what kind of a party would make a left wing like her Speaker of the House?), to shove Mr. Non-American down the throats of the regular folks who make up the Democratic Party.

Posted by: GroversCorners | August 21, 2008, 4:15 am 4:15 am

I am pro choice (the only thing I agree with Obama on) but will vote McCain no matter where he stands on this. It’s sad that a woman’s body and her rights are still such an issue, since 1974 Roe V. Wade. The religious right is going to have to be happy with McCain’s VP choice I guess. I don’t care who he picks, OBAMA IS NOT AN OPTION (yet he has this one right).

Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am

There is no doubt that the reason this race is tight in an election year where Mickey Mouse should be able to win in a landslide against any Republican is because the Repubs were smart this year and nominated the only possible Repub, McCain, who could possibly win after 8 years of George W. What do the Democrats do? The usual. They put the least strongest candidate on the ballot and put an inexperienced, relatively unknown Obama up against the experienced and well known McCain. They threw the moderate and conservative Democrats, the one’s who can be counted on to vote every time in all the local, State and National elections and vote Democrat, under the bus. They said we can change the map and bring in voters who traditionally don’t vote or have low voter turn-outs so we don’t need those traditional Democrats or those blue-collar Reagan Democrats because we are going to change the dynamics this election. I don’t know how many times I saw Obama supporters on these blogs telling Clinton supporters that they weren’t needed and to just move on and do what they needed to do even if that meant voting McCain. Now Obama can’t even break past a 7 point lead on a good day and all those Obama supporters are throwing the blame at the Clinton supporters. Sorry boys and girls, if you couldn’t figure out that the supporters of a candidate who carried about 500,000 more votes then your candidate, half of the Democratic party, 18 million voters- if you couldn’t figure out that the Obama needs those voters well too bad. We have seen a decline amongst those who identify as Democrats. Duh. And guess what, we’ve also seen a decline amongst youth supporting Obama and increase amongst youth supporting McCain. Duh.
If the Dems lose the White House they have absolutely no one to blame but themselves.

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 4:36 am 4:36 am

Hey, Obama is a decent man. He loves his Country. He’s not Muslim. He’s not a socialist. He’s not a racist. He has many, many strengths and attributes but he has limited experience at a time when we have an economy that’s in the dumpster and a mess worldwide in regards to foreign policy. Obama needs to go back to Senate and actually show up for work and do some work and acquire the depth of knowledge, perspective and experience needed to run this Country and come back in 4-8 years and I’ll cast my vote for him but today he’s not ready.

Posted by: alpaig52 | August 21, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am

For all his so-called experience, John McCain’s judgement is terrible. Osama bin Laden owes his life to John McCain. Bin Laden’s best friend is Mr. McCain.

Posted by: FilmMD | August 21, 2008, 5:45 am 5:45 am

Another item—Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are two of the most crazy idiots. I have listened to them on the radio. They are two of the most dynsfunctional radicals I have ever heard. They twist absolutely everything that Obama says. They are going nuts trying to stop the Obama Express. These two creeps should not be allowed on public radio. They are laughable. If they are so smart why aren’t they running for the Presidency? Limbaugh is a druggie that comes across as a loser. Hannity is coming across as a dysfunctional idiot that has an unhappy life. They sound almost panicky. Even though they claim otherwise, they sure are in McCain’s corner.

Posted by: CS3539 | August 21, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am

one thing about mccain is you never know from one day to another what he stands for—–guess it is what is popular for that particular day—the ultimate flip floper

Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am

It seems like mccain is taking a pretty “hand off” approach on a lot of things. What type of “leader” would he really be. Pretty ineffectual.

Posted by: Not fooled | August 21, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am

The GOP says it is OK for a pregnant woman with cancer to die because her fetus is more important than a mother’s life and life-saving chemo may kill it.
The GOP mind is twisted beyond reason.

Posted by: Becca | August 21, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am

So, McCain is turning into an over the hill version of Mitt Romney, but without the business sense. Such a deal!

Posted by: Ruth | August 21, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

Atop crying about Obama’s birth certificate – here it is

Posted by: Ben | August 21, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

Posted by: Ben | August 21, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

2 things that strike me as sad:
1. 150,000 americans are stuck in iraq, but mccain is more worried about pleasing james dobson
2. several trolls are toiling away on this site just to gain ‘mccain points’ while mccain himself can’t remember how many homes he owns.

Posted by: cha cha cha | August 21, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Obama’s birth certificate???? It was signed in the state of Kansas, where was McCain’s signed?
BTW.. it is McCain that wants to give your country away to the sovereign funds and multi-national oil companies.

Posted by: SDindependent | August 21, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

The hell with the debate on abortion. The real debate is on freedom. Last I looked this was America and people were free to live their life the way they want, free to work where they want, and free to make decisions about their own health care. If some son of a b***h tried to tell me what medical procedures I was allowed to have I would knock his teeth out. Republican or Democrat – STAY OUT OF MY LIFE!!!!!!!

Posted by: Todd | August 21, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

p.s.–condi just farted on mccain’s iraq position.

Posted by: cha cha cha | August 21, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Jennifer Blei Stockman, the co-chairwoman of Republican Majority for Choice may want to change the name of her organization to Republican Majority for Defeat if she gets her way.
If 28% of the GOP has no place to go because DemoKKKrats believe in killing even babies who survive botched abortions (their standard bearer’s position) and the GOP has become pro-abort at heart, those who tolerate some follishness from the GOP because it’s the only major party that at least gives lip service to social issues will no longer have a reason to support the Republican Party.
With McCain being for the most part a moderate on the abortion issue, his using surrogates to gut the abortion language from the platform will confirm pro-life supporters’ worst suspicions.
McCain will have to make a strong case that killing off the next generation is preferable to merely surrendering to our enemies as O’Bamma wishes to do.
In the end, without a moral compass, America may as well elect O’Bamma and his Surrendercrat sychophants. Then we can kill babies all the way through Kindergarten.
How sick!

Posted by: Quiverdaddy | August 21, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

GO Bob Barr!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: a | August 21, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

HERE IS BARACK OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE. SEE FOR YOURSELF:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

Posted by: OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE | August 21, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

McCain is a man who supports having a woman DIE before permitting a physician to perform an abortion. He is supporting NO exception even when the LIFE of the mother is at risk. How is that pro-life????? That is strictly pro-fetus, screw the LIFE of the mother. This is an EXTREME position. McCain is staking his claim on the far right of the RIGHT WING.

Posted by: Jackie | August 21, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

ABC make McCain look bad? Jake Tapper has taken just about every conceivable jab at Obama, while McCain basically gets off scott free. Why is McCain willing to bring back back alley abortions?

Posted by: Tarik | August 21, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

You republican hypocrites! If you’re fanatical about “Jesus” and the bible, how come you’re neglecting the fact that McCorpse cheated on his wife while she was at the hospital suffering?How come the Keating 5 means nothing to you? you evangelical freaks find all kinds of excuses to get McCorpse elected.All of a sudden your crappy values are thrown out the window when it comes to this immoral, stupid, risky(sick) idiot.You guys use religion as a weapon to line your pockets and deceive American idiots who have no clue how to think for themselves.It won’t work this time!

Posted by: joseph pierre | August 21, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

and it doesn’t stop there, Jackie. repubs want to overturn Griswold v. Connecticut. no contraception for you or anyone.

Posted by: cha cha cha | August 21, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

I’ve always thought it was funny that the GOP has no issue killing after someone is born, regardless of age and mental status, but OH NO that 8 week old fetus must be saved, regardless of whether it was the result of rape, incest or that it my kill or cripple the mother. The GOP position is not about the preservation of life, it is about control of the citizenry. If you want to really end abortion, EDUCATE! Convince people of the choice you believe to be correct.

Posted by: louis | August 21, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Let’s get serious people!
The McCain camp is bent on making Obama a risky choice.Here’s the funny thing:If you look at those two guys, based on medical issues, and bellicose propensities, who do you think is the riskiest?Even a blind can answer this question, but I’ll let the bible-thumpers have a go at it.

Posted by: joseph pierre | August 21, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

I’m not surprised – i think the neocons are worried about fertility out there, they want to class contraception as abortion too.
McCain never really was a maverick as evidenced by his willingness to go which ever way the wind blows.
McCain has gotten such a free pass from the media, we never hear about his involvement with Jack Abramoff – his previous involvement with the Savings&Loan taxpayer bailout.
Electing McCain would just be a continuation of the current administration’s policies that are tilted too far towards corporate america ignoring ordinary people’s issues.
No more cowboy politicians with handler (Cheney hands the reins over to Lieberman)

Posted by: Citizen Voter | August 21, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Repuglicans: WAAAAAH! WAAAAAH! WAAAAH!

Posted by: richard olveda | August 21, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Will the real John McCain please stand up!

Posted by: Just Capri | August 21, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

John Mc Cain! War monger.
John McCain! two time adultorer.
John McCain! Oil monger
John McCain! very poor learner
John MccCain! More of the same

Posted by: mark musselman | August 21, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

alpaig52, you are truly ignorant. stem cells do not necessarily have anything to do with fetuses, aborted or miscarried or whatever. the most recent and promising human stem cells (which, ahem, save lives.. you’re pro-life, right?) have been found in adults’ spinal cord fluid and amongst the cells shed by the endometrium into period blood. oh i’m sorry, is having your period anti-jesus now?

Posted by: nova | August 21, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Are you not capable of understanding that charging that Obama doesn’t have a birth certificate is ridiculous? It deflates every other argument you might try to make. Aside from the FACT that it is posted online, consider that you must show a passport to travel outside of the country and you must show a US birth certificate to get a a passport. If you live in a hole in the ground maybe this truth escapes you.

Posted by: linda | August 21, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

First of all, Obama does have a legitimate birth certificate. Actually, if there was a question about that, McCain was born in Panama, but that is legal, so moving on.
Obama does NOT want late term abortions for frivilous reasons, but wants to protect the health of the mother and voted so that the mother could have an abortion if her health was dependent on it. Otherwise, she would die and then of course the baby would probably die also. That is why he voted as he did. He is for giving women a choice, but wants to decrease the NEED for abortions by implementing programs to cut down on unwanted pregnancies.
It is sad to read some of the ignorant and immature responses on here.

Posted by: Becky Montgomery | August 21, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

Good going, Obama, if you choose Biden for your VP. Remember, Biden agreed with McCain and voted FOR the war in Iraq. Again, Obama is falling apart at the seams and doesn’t seem to know what direction to take anymore.

Posted by: ObamaSenior | August 21, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

america, land of small minds and racists.
you are to stupid , not your fault, to see the world is watching and shamed by your behavior. the world is dying and you think edwards sex is important. thanks for the last eight years of pollution, hate, and war. you make your mama’s proud. freedom fries, gates of hell, dead or alive, no global warming, WMD’S, ………….
AMERICA SUCKS AND YOU REALIZE IT.
AMERICA IS OWNED BY THE CHINESE.
SOLD BY THE PATRIOT GWB.

Posted by: bobby robert | August 21, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

america, land of small minds and racists.
you are to stupid , not your fault, to see the world is watching and shamed by your behavior. the world is dying and you think edwards sex is important. thanks for the last eight years of pollution, hate, and war. you make your mama’s proud. freedom fries, gates of hell, dead or alive, no global warming, WMD’S, ………….
AMERICA SUCKS AND YOU REALIZE IT.
AMERICA IS OWNED BY THE CHINESE.
SOLD BY THE PATRIOT GWB.

Posted by: bobby robert | August 21, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

You on the lunitic fringe are spreading lies faster then you can read, so full of hate and I bet your mama’s would be proud of how ignorant you are, you know McBush will lose because everything he and the smear campaign put out there about Obama is true of himself!!!!!!!!Hate breeds hate, are you having babies to breed more hate?

Posted by: Tiredof the crazy right | August 21, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!
This should be used in a commercial!!!!
BWBWBWWWWWAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Avembe | August 21, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Ask John McCain with the 10 houses and the trophy (100 million dollar) wife where he was born?
Panama
Why is everyone so afraid of a man who was born outside the US?
because that’s how Republicans win, by playing on the “fears” of Americans.

Posted by: mykidsfuture | August 21, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

Can some please explain to me how one can be pro life, and believe that it is right to enter another based on a forged documents and lies, and kill the leader of that country. You do not want a women to make a choice on the life of a child before it is born, but you have a right to kill a person after it is born, because you have judged them to be evil.
You call this following Christ. Could not the God of whom you say you believe in and is defending, take the breath of life from that leader when He chose to.
You want a leader who say he will follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell. Well would not that leader be leading you to the gates of hell.
I have a question for you who say abortion is a sin, and againt God. Is not adultry a sin and against God. murder, lies? The Bible says Satan transform himself as an angel of light, his servants will do the same.
It’s a way that seems right to man but that way leads to destruction. Let him without sin cast the first stone.
Even the Almighty God Himself, do not agree with man sinning, but He never takes away our will to sin. freedom to choose, even when we know right from wrong. Mercy triumph over judgment.
CHANGE..the way you think, stop letting others place their thoughts in your mind. Bush was pro choice, how many abortions was stopped? his vp has a gay daughter? AND, it time for a change in Washington, after all they are alreading following every suggestion Obama has made concerning the direction this country needs to take, ha ha Obama is leading them even before he is elected president, Paskistan, oil price is going down, trying to set a date to withdraw our troops. now if we could only get them to tell the truth

Posted by: dfortruth | August 21, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Maybe this is why the media isn’t chasing the “birth certificate” story?
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert
Did it ever occur to you guys that some of the rumors flying around about Obama may be lies? Just ask yourself what is more likely: A) A US senator running for president doesn’t have a birth certificate or B) Some republicans are suggesting a false rumor about a Democratic candidate in order to win an election?

Posted by: PW | August 21, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

RACISTS…vote for McCain

Posted by: Fiona | August 21, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

It is so important that the facts get out there.
It’s amazing what some will or say for power.
Here is the link to Obama’s birth certificate:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert
We have to come together. We truly have real problems and all of this vitriol is not going to help us, but despite all of your rhetoric, you truly don’t put “Country First”.

Posted by: Just For The Record | August 21, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Are some you people on drugs? Or you just don’t read the paper? You’re going on about Barack’s birth certificate as if that were news? It’s been established for a long time that most of what you people are going off about is no more than smears; and, in most cases, committed by the replubican party. Granted if you are on board with McCain’s stance on abortion just stand up and say so. All this childish name calling does not change the facts.

Posted by: Chamay0 | August 21, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

I like to think that there probably one last thing that could realy prevent senator Obama to get some major support from many evangelicals republican and that is racism’s yes they presents themselfs to be noble birth right of the lord Jesus-Christ but all the deeds reflect the one that is call the devil oh yes you dont have to be a SHOLARD TO UNDERSTAND THIS ABOUT ONE WAYS OF ?It just a fact that this MCcain guy doenst deliver anything solid yiet they continuous to rally not behind the candidate Himself but behind the so call leaders of the evangelicals fractions well that unfortunate because this peoples themself have nothing but decievers to the body of Christ on earth they just dont do what He the Lord tell them to do they dont preach repentence to the world yiet they accecpt lecture from senator MCcain Himself on gorgiveness while at 71 years old still an unborn Christian and yiet highly regarded by they church leadershi[p as they representative that bring me to conclude they just racist.and I olso think that they are just the accomplisment of prophesy by the Lord Jesus-Christ Himself that this are the falses prophets that the Bible speack about they lies and it’s oke they support a lies. and a evryday liar and it’s all good with them they even say it day after day,by rev:odson testimony He even admit to be flipflopping for the sake of feeding His greeds and personal hatry and yiet yes it’s oke please the Christian those who know the bible need to revoque and change thing to please God and not men did not God shose the least among men and do great thing whith one just think about that and make up your own mind this time for your country and for for other men they rich for themself and they family look around you tell me with good conscience ouhhhh is it not true this peoples are so rich from the parishioner and they dont do nothing for the poor but just pretending and by using the poor name that need to stop and that need to change and you only you can bring that change in at this november election to say no no no nomore of this.God Bless America the world is washing and listening.

Posted by: Ronald Roy | August 21, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Hey spacerook1:
Yes, you are entiled to your own opinions on race, but you also have the right to be mocked. What kind of idiot are you? You’d sacrifice competenced (not that Obama is neccessarilly competent, but he’s definately more so than Bush) for a stupid prejudice? That way of thinking is old, out-date, and inncorrect morally, financially, and simply impractical. It’s people like you who should be deported to the past, you’d be far happier there, you ignorant buffoon. I hope you’d write back so I could try to understand how an eliteist like you could function.

Posted by: someone | August 21, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Dear spacerook1: (and other readers)
I apologize. I didn’t realize that the African-American slur was by Obamanemisis. My sinceriest apologies. Please replace your name with obamanemisis. Again, I am so sorry for using your name there. Sorry. :(

Posted by: someone | August 21, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

Why are the repubs so hung up on abortion? It’s such a dumb issue. Frankly, McCain is right not to touch it with a ten foot pole. Maybe he’s personally pro life, but when the chips are down isn’t sure the president, or the government in general, is the right entity to police these private matters. I am sure a lot of republicans, and reasonable americans, feel the same way. Mike Huckabee can wail all day long, but there is a reason he lost the primary. Smart repubs know this is not an issue where the “official platform” jives with public opinion.

Posted by: a reader in georgia | August 21, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

If I recall correctly, for the first six years of this decade, Republicans had control of Congress, two additional years of control of the White House, and new conservative recruits to the Supreme Court. I wonder when the party’s “base” of right-wing religious fundamentalists will wake up and realize that the Repub party has held most of the power in the 21st century and yet their has been no real progress made on their quest to ban abortion (and more lately also to ban birth control. You’d think they’d finally get it that their pet issue is rolled out every four years just to get their vote without any intention on the part of the Repubs to actually pass such legislation. Paraphrasing the words of the master, “Fool me once, well, you can’t get fooled again.”

Posted by: petersjo | August 21, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

If I recall correctly, for the first six years of this decade, Republicans had control of Congress, two additional years of control of the White House, and new conservative recruits to the Supreme Court. I wonder when the party’s “base” of right-wing religious fundamentalists will wake up and realize that the Repub party has held most of the power in the 21st century and yet their has been no real progress made on their quest to ban abortion (and more lately also to ban birth control. You’d think they’d finally get it that their pet issue is rolled out every four years just to get their vote without any intention on the part of the Repubs to actually pass such legislation. Paraphrasing the words of the master, “Fool me once, well, you can’t get fooled again.”

Posted by: petersjo | August 21, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

McCain is Not Backing away from
Anything!
He made it clear in Saddleback that he
believes that life begins at conception!
It’s time for the MSM, ABC included,
to Stop Lying For Obama and let the
American People Decide the Election!
To bring up something from 8 years ago
is pathetic!
Obama changes his positions every
couple of weeks!

Posted by: reaganfan | August 21, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

I know the economy is on people’s minds but it the war that sunk the economy.
What does John McCain mean that he wants to win in Iraq? At this point what would it mean to win? Haven’t we already won?

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Posted by: bill hicks | August 21, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

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Posted by: bill hicks | August 21, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

Dad’s pro-choice…as long as the choice is which of our 17 houses to stay in!! LOL!!!
mccainblogarella.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Kaylie McCain | August 21, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Dad’s pro-choice…as long as the choice is which of our 17 houses to stay in!! LOL!!!
mccainblogarella.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Kaylie McCain | August 21, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Is ABC so desperate to make John McCain look bad that you have to go back to 2000. Make a comparison, then put it on the front page.
That is pathetic, you know that don’t you.
Why dont you do a story on tha lack of an Obamas birth certificate, that will make for a real good story.
Posted by: Bing | Aug 20, 2008 9:10:03 PM
Actually BING… they only have to go back to Saddleback….

Posted by: Show me | August 21, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

Why dont you do a story on tha lack of an Obamas birth certificate, that will make for a real good story.
Posted by: Bing | Aug 20, 2008 9:10:03 PM
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Bing, you should REALLY get out more. factcheck.org has already debunked that little birth certificate myth.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Posted by: Tina | August 22, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am

People who comment on Obama’s middle name and state he is a Muslim show little else than their prejudices.

Posted by: Vix | August 22, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

Tina if you go to Politifact.com they have looked into Senator Obamas’ Birth Certificate information. Check your facts at the door, not you ignorance. McCain is lying through his yellow teeth.

Posted by: Wallace | August 22, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran…. alright you young man …. be sure to register for the draft….. You can pick up the handy little pamplet at your Local United States Postal Service…

Posted by: oneone | August 24, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

How can true Republican and supposebly a person of God, support anti abortion and a war at the same time?
God Bless
Frank
Bridgeport, CT
his2ndcoming@optonline.net

Posted by: Frank | August 28, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

yall are all lame, shutup jesse jackson u racist ignorant %*$&#*#, OBAMA 08 B*TCHES!

Posted by: obama | October 21, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

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