By Jennifer Parker

Aug 19, 2008 4:33pm

McCain Still Reaching Out on Pro-Choice VP

ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: Top aides to Sen. John McCain are continuing to gauge reaction from key supporters about the possibility of choosing a running mate who supports abortion rights, according to two Republican operatives with direct knowledge of the conversations.

veepbeat generic blog McCain Still Reaching Out on Pro Choice VP National Review reported Monday that McCain aides have been reaching out to key GOP activists to determine whether the Republican rank-and-file would revolt over such a pick. 

The Republican operatives tell ABC that those conversations have continued into Tuesday. Top donors and convention delegates have been getting calls from high-ranking McCain associates, including Campaign Manager Rick Davis, and senior advisers Charlie Black and Carly Fiorina.

Though no names are being directly discussed, McCain is said to be considering two main candidates who describe themselves as “pro-choice”: former governor Tom Ridge, R-Pa., and Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn.

The calls have drawn a decidedly mixed reaction.

“They’re getting a lot of pushback,” one veteran Republican said, speaking on condition of anonymity. “You’ve got to keep the coalition together. The Republican base is just coming home.”

Rush Limbaugh used his radio program Tuesday to blast the idea of McCain, R-Ariz., selecting someone who isn’t a solid abortion opponent.

"If he picks a pro-choice running mate, it’s not going to be pretty," Limbaugh said.

User Comments

Well of course it won’t be pretty if Obama gets elected. Now that would really be cutting off your own nose.

Posted by: lordy lordy | August 19, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

I vote for Sen. Joe Lieberman as VP, he’s certainly as republican as McCain and he isn’t as silly or deceitful.

Posted by: JR | August 19, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Yes!! Do it Mcsame show us what a flipper you are! LMAO!! The conservative right wingers will shun you for sure!! I mean if you aren’t going to stand up for a couple cells in the womb then why would they vote for you. What a pandering moron!

Posted by: Joe | August 19, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Lieberman would also be a first, the first Israeli senator in the white house.

Posted by: JR | August 19, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

Good point JR I think that means Mccain hates americans and secretly loves Israeli’s and looks out for there intrests more than his own countrymen

Posted by: Joe | August 19, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Picking Lieberman as VP does not make sense.
Lieberman already produced a loss in this capacity.
McCain needs to pick someone without a losing record as a VP candidate.
Also, Lieberman has proven himself to be a turncoat if the politics demand that he do so.
McCain would be well served to do whatever it takes to enlist the services of Colin Powell.

Posted by: Jayhawk | August 19, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

Colin Powell is a much better choice than a previous VP loser.

Posted by: Jayhawk | August 19, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

I’d rather have an American Jew as vice president under McCain than Obama as president with his choice of VP nominee any, any day or year. While I trust an American Jewish person as Lieberman, I know in my heart that Obama is a traitor to American and could very possible be a sleeper. My neighbor believes he is the anti-christ. Obama has lived in a Muslim country most of his youth and with Islamic radicals such as his step father, his father had a Muslim burial (he spent his first years with his father and a long month in Indonesia). His brothers are radicals and his aunts, uncles, step grandma are all Muslims. Obama was brainwashed and he is brainwashing his supporters here in American.

Posted by: Jan McCoy | August 19, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Powell, who supports BHO, would be a good choice as McCain’s VP? No thank you. Romney is my choice. I give him credit, when he saw the writing on the way, he withdrew and said, “Now I will work to get the Republican nominee, John McCain, elected.” And that’s exactly what he’s done. The Huckster is still out there bashing others. Give me a break. Romney should be the VP…I’m dying for the chance to finally see a businessman-like person in the white house.

Posted by: MAK | August 19, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Jayhawk, I think I agree with you but you also can’t count out a loser. Look at Nixon. He lost in 1960 and I believe lost as Governor of California, only to be elected President twice, and by a landslide the second time.

Posted by: tire | August 19, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Colin Powell has too much integrity to get mixed up in the current slimy GOP politics.

Posted by: hang | August 19, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Difficult decision. However, the bottom line is this is going to be a tight race. At the beginning, most republicans thought that McCain did not have a chance because of Bush having such low ratings.
Well, McCain does have a chance. In fact a very good one. He will need support from the republican base or they will GIVE the white house to Obama.
If this happens, we can only hope that God will Bless America.
Hillary supporter for McCain

Posted by: Phyllis/ PA | August 19, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Actually, these are the best vetted to be McCain’s VP Choice and I emphasize CHOICE:
Yosemite Sam-Strong on National Defense
Barney-Can pull in the Gay vote
Mister Ed-PETA will come running to McCain
Batman-Need I say more?
It doesn’t matter who he chooses. Lieberman, Romney and Ridge would be no better than Festus, Barney or Yosemite Sam. They’ll still be in the losers column.
POTUS OBAMA-ITS INEVITABLE CYNICS

Posted by: Nat Turner | August 19, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

One Democrat deserves another. How can ANY true republican even bother showing up to witness such a disgrace as the former Republican party. This election was over before it even started.

Posted by: ick! | August 19, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Really, take Lieberman. Dems certainly have no more use for him.

Posted by: hang | August 19, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Colin Powell is pro-choice and may be supporting Obama…I don’t think he’s a GOP kinda guy after what the Bush Adm did to him

Posted by: cj | August 19, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

McCain is showing his true colors regarding abortion and no one is saying ANYTHING about it!!! How can we elect someone that uses the lives of babies as a political throwaway!!! Where is the media!! Didn’t McCain tell Pastor Warren that he’s pro-life? How can a “pro-life” candidate even consider a person that agrees with abortions to be one heart beat away from the Presidency? McCain has two faces!!! and NO ONE is saying anything about it!!

Posted by: steve | August 19, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

In fact, do you notice how bored the media is with McCain?
His choice is based on who can assist him in being in the “CONE OF SENILITY”.
Hmmmm, Charles Manson would be a great choice, but unfortunately he’s “tied up” right now.
WHAT A JOKE! THIS IS GOING TO BE LANDSLIDE!
POTUS OBAMA – CYNICS CAN’T STOP IT

Posted by: Nat Turner | August 19, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

Actually, these are the best vetted to be McCain’s VP Choice and I emphasize CHOICE:
Yosemite Sam-Strong on National Defense
Barney-Can pull in the Gay vote
Mister Ed-PETA will come running to McCain
Batman-PUMA kitties love a man that’s “Tall & Dark”. (As long as he isn’t Bi-racial)
It doesn’t matter who he chooses. Lieberman, Romney and Ridge would be no better than Festus, Barney or Yosemite Sam. They’ll still be in the losers column.
POTUS OBAMA-ITS INEVITABLE CYNICS
LANDSLIDE

Posted by: Nat Turner | August 19, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Steve, didn’t Obama lead us to believe that if the money was right he could make a decision on abortion?

Posted by: tire | August 19, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Hey Jan ! Do you put white capes on your kids before you send them to school ?

Posted by: Ron | August 19, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

How can anyone vote for McCain? His father had a nazi helmet from WWII on his dresser when McCain was growing up which means that McCain is also a nazi. He went to a Christian school as a child where they preached that armageddon would be the end of the world and that only those who believed in Jesus would be saved and those that didn’t were not human and were spawns of satan that should be destroyed at any cost. Is that the kind of man we want as our President? He’s clearly brainwashing Americans into thinking he’s one of us.
Idiots….

Posted by: cj | August 19, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

I think he should pick another old white guy if he wants to truly represent his party.

Posted by: obamamama | August 19, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

Oh…I almost forgot
My neighbor thinks McCain is gay….so I do too.

Posted by: cj | August 19, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

“My neighbor believes he is the anti-christ.” Yeah, and McCain is Santa Claus. Please continue to believe every rumor you hear and read. We are counting on you, Jan.

Posted by: obamamama | August 19, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

The Cynics are s#@##@#$ their pants knowing that McCain doesn’t have a porkchop’s chance in a piranha tank of becoming POTUS.
The best bet would be for all of your to gather together, hold hands and sing KUM BA YA.
That’s about all the solice you’ll get in this election.
POTUS OBAMA – MCCAIN DOESN’T HAVE A CHANCE. (And everyone knows it)
LANDSLIDE

Posted by: Nat Turner | August 19, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

JR
Lieberman isn’t deceitful?
Except fot that part about him promising the Democrats of Connecticut that he would work to get a Democrat elected to the White House.

Posted by: jock59801 | August 19, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

If anyone’s the anti-christ, it’s that Cindy McCain chick…she is one scary, scary lady.

Posted by: cj | August 19, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

tire – I don’t plan to vote for Obama. I just don’t understand how Christians can vote for McCain. We have been hoodwinked. Picking the Lessor of two evils is not how I want my President chosen.

Posted by: steve | August 19, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

this is total crap. this is all the mccain campaign trying to perpetuate the image that mccain is a “maverick” and can “reach across the aisle”. which is pretty obviously empty campaign rhetoric, as mccain has proven throughout his career that the only opinion that matters to john mccain is john mccain’s. the man has already said that, if elected, he will take steps to overturn roe v. wade (although back in 1999, mccain is quoted as saying that the overturning of roe v. wade would ultimately be a BAD thing, because it would “force x number of women to undergo dangerous and illegal operations”. he now claims his comments were “taken out of context”). the man is 100% ANTI-choice. he’s also opposed to health insurance companies covering birth control and he supports abstinence-only sex education, so apparently he’s also PRO-unintended pregnancy. and in general, i would say mccain is anti-woman, a raging misogynist in my book. he doesn’t think women deserve equal pay in the workplace, he tells rape jokes (that he later claims to “not remember” telling), and he calls his wife a c-nt in public.
great choice for a president!

Posted by: ejohn38 | August 19, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

Gosh, Steve, isn’t that always the sad choice for us, the lesser of two evils? Don’t tell me you’re still happy with Bush!

Posted by: obamamama | August 19, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

McCain thinks a pro-choice VP will win him swing voters?
Most pro-choice are anti-war.
Not sure how he thinks that will win him votes. I can guarantee a pro-choice selection will cost him millions of votes.

Posted by: Dan | August 19, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

on another blog someone wrote, “Lincoln also said to win votes, impress the ignorant” …. and we thought that Obama’s supporters were educated.

Posted by: gottogo | August 19, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

America cannot afford another 4 years of a president who has a very low IQ. We will definitly and forever lose our credibility in the world as a nation of 300 million people.

Posted by: BKMC | August 19, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

McCain has already been widely criticized for not being conservative enough. And picking a pro-life candidate makes things seem so much worse for an already worried Republican Party. I say he should go with Tim Pawlenty or Mitt Romney.

Posted by: Jacob | August 19, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

McCain picking someone Pro-choice would be tantamount to political suicide.

Posted by: Fetus and Me | August 19, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

“I just don’t understand how Christians can vote for McCain”
I totally agree…just think of how many less fortunate people could be helped by all of the money that McCain wants to give back to the richest 10% of Americans. True Christianity is about helping those less fortunate than you, right?

Posted by: cj | August 19, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

Steve, I’m happy that you weren’t writing in support of Obama, and I can agree that we never want to take the lesser of two evils, but that is the only choice we have. I’m not about to take a chance on Obama.

Posted by: tire | August 19, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

McCain want’s to set the rules of law back to the day’s he grew up in, the 1930′s. That’s when men were men and women did what they were told and voted for who their husbands told them to vote for. Boy those were the good ol’ days.

Posted by: James | August 19, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

oh James, back in the ’30′s everyone voted for FDR.

Posted by: gottogo | August 19, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

Sure, listen to Rush Limbaugh. He urged us to vote for Bush.

Posted by: scott jeffries | August 19, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

“I love it” McCain says that life begins at conception, but him and the Republicans don’t want Sex Ed. taught in the public schools, they want to outlaw abortions,or not handout condoms to teenagers. But they don’t want to give these same teenagers Welfare or foodstamps when they get preg. Boy that’s Faith and compassion at work by the FARright

Posted by: timl wash | August 19, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

tire — I’m at a loss. We had a chance with Huckabee and everyone was afraid to put forth a man of Christ. Now we’ve settled for a man that I can’t trust or vote for.
I’m saving my vote for the next round in four years. Obama can do less harm because he won’t be able to accomplish anything in four years. It will take him three just to figure out where the oval office is. If McCain is elected he could screw up the hard work done on changing the courts and we could be potentially looking at McCain and then an abortionist to follow him. That could be 16 years of pro-abortion in the White House. I’ve already decided no vote for McCain.

Posted by: steve | August 19, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

Oh yes. I hope McSurge picks a pro-abortion VP. I’d love to watch the evangelicals heads spin off on that one. McSurge please Pick Romney or Ridge, Either one will assure the Conservative Religious voters will nail you to the cross.

Posted by: Sue H | August 19, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

C’mon Maverick…do it!!! Or are ya’ chicken!!!!

Posted by: Not fooled | August 19, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

We don`t need philosophically inclined robotic actuators in the office, we need original thinkers of deep commitment, even if their opposition is an issue of affronting God`s (or nature’s, whatever you like) jurisdiction.
But who would risk that voters might not get it? National security and economy on this precipice can NOT afford an Obama.
Higher values are a luxery we may well ill afford.
I would support Ridge or Joe Lieberman if the stakes werent so high. Obama obviously doesnt even understand the BASIC CONCEPT behind the of stem cell research debate.
`if we`re gonna toss `em anyway, why not use `em?` drrr.
It`s NOT ABOUT INDIVIDUAL CELLS! It`s about what venue we have a right or foresight to tresspass in!
When that’s unknown? We DON`T GO THERE. Why? Because YOU, Obama (allegedly) have a higher authority above yourself!
Or do the self-ordained enjoy a certain immunity?
Hate to put expediance before principles, but I say no WAY you risk alienating that many hard-liner voters by selecting either respectable gentleman. Even Churchill had to be pragmatic about sacrificing indefensible innocent lives.

Posted by: zak | August 19, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

A 72 year old man is going to pick a VP that is pro-choice and contrary to his belief and desire to overturn Roe v. Wade? That will never fly with the “evangelical” Republican base. Too many justices coming off the court and McCain is too old creating uncertainty of surviving his full term in office. I wish he he would pick a pro-choice VP because even more Republicans would stay home this November.

Posted by: Paige | August 19, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

The Mc stuff is getting old, McSame, McSurge….. How about this McObama, for McGovern who only won 2 states in 1972.
McCain will win no matter who he picks for Veep because America is not going to elect an inexperienced, radical, racist liberal with ties to the likes of Rev Wright, Father Phleager, Tony Rezko, William Ayres, and endorsements from Hamas and Louis Farrakhan. Christians will not vote for McObama because he is not only pro-abortion, but he is the only Senator to vote yea for late term abortions and giving no medical attention if the baby lives.
America’s value system falls in line with the Republicans. Look at 2000, Bush couldn’t form a complete sentence and had a nobody for Veep and he won, 2004, Bush had lead us into an unpopular war, still couldn’t speak well and still had Cheney as veep, still won.
Republicans have won 7 of the last 10 elections.
Democrats are becoming too liberal and more socialist in their positions.

Posted by: S Adams | August 19, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

I find it comical those that can only post regarding Obama with Rezko, Ayers and other associates attached. I think all Obama people need to start adding Keating 5, Phil Grahm, Hagee, Abramhoff anytime a word is mentioned about McCain. You people can name names, but am doubtful you can name policy on either side… Go back to letting Hannity brainwash you.

Posted by: Jennifer | August 19, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

VOTE DEMOCRAT! It’s easier than working!

Posted by: mom8336 | August 19, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

this is total crap. this is all the mccain campaign trying to perpetuate the image that mccain is a “maverick” and can “reach across the aisle”. which is pretty obviously empty campaign rhetoric, as mccain has proven throughout his career that the only opinion that matters to john mccain is john mccain’s. the man has already said that, if elected, he will take steps to overturn roe v. wade (although back in 1999, mccain is quoted as saying that the overturning of roe v. wade would ultimately be a BAD thing, because it would “force x number of women to undergo dangerous and illegal operations”. he now claims his comments were “taken out of context”). the man is 100% ANTI-choice. he’s also opposed to health insurance companies covering birth control and he supports abstinence-only sex education, so apparently he’s also PRO-unintended pregnancy. and in general, i would say mccain is anti-woman, a raging misogynist in my book. he doesn’t think women deserve equal pay in the workplace, he tells rape jokes (that he later claims to “not remember” telling), and he calls his wife a c-nt in public.
great choice for a president!
having “more experience” means nothing if all that experience reveals (like in mccain’s case) is that the candidate is racist, sexist, abusive, hotheaded, and closeminded.

Posted by: ejohn38 | August 19, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

This is a choice of the lesser of two bad choices. I am voting against Obama, because we are already overtaxed, and he will raise taxes because he believes in the disproved Keynesian economics.
We will not get out of the recession until they get rid of the 73 percent total tax rate (counting the business taxes hidden in product prices).

Posted by: Larry Robinson | August 19, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

Jennifer – With all due respect, McCain was cleared in the Keating 5 deal whereas Obama was with his pastor, Ayers and the like up until this election…..

Posted by: Laurie | August 19, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

This is actually pretty funny. McCain is lying to his supporters saying he’s prolife and they don’t even realize it. LOL

Posted by: dan | August 19, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Posted by: Frank | August 19, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Jennifer,
Keating 5 consisted of 4 Democrats and John McCain, 3 of those Dems were guilty Cranston, DeConcini and Reigle, McCain and John Glenn were cleared. Phil Gramm quit the campaign and John McCain was only endorsed by Hagee, which John McCain declined. He didn’t sit in Hagee’s church for 20 yrs listening to racist and Anti-American statements like Obama did for Rev Wright and Father Pfleager. Obama chose his anti-american and criminal friends, McCain just happened to be in the same party as Gramm. I wouldn’t put Bill Clinton, John Edwards or other Democrats mistakes onto Obama just because they are of the same party.

Posted by: S Adams | August 19, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Laurie – McCain never explained his good friendship of years with Keating and also didn’t come clean about air travel paid for by Keating until AFTER he was caught not reporting the gifts. McCain was dirty; he just had enough money to get away with it.

Posted by: dan | August 19, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Frank, You’re using CNN and Cafferty as a reference? Really? Why don’t you go to the other drive-by media’s websites, MSNBC, NBC, or better yet go to the HUffington Post and believe everything you read there. Someone’s been drinking the Kool-Aid.

Posted by: S Adams | August 19, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

S Adams – McCain had a much closer relationship with Keating than you want portray.

Posted by: dan | August 19, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

Laurie, Yes, McCain’s convictions were thrown out on technicalities. Obama is not Ayers or Rezko and shall we talk Phil Graham and the Enron loophole? The difference between Obama and McCain on their “associates” is Obama is loosely associated and McCain is still doing all his “associates” favors in addition to them advising him. Just ask the people in California that endured the rolling black-outs or people that lost everything with the collapse of Enron and on and on and on…..

Posted by: Jennifer | August 19, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981. Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in lawful political contributions from Keating and his associates. In addition, McCain’s wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating’s expense, sometimes aboard Keating’s jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating’s opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain did not pay Keating (in the amount of $13,433) for some of the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln (copied from Wikipedia)

Posted by: david | August 19, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

It is an absolute insult to the intelligence of women everywhere to equate with valid rights causes such as equal pay, equal treatment, etc the degradation and undermining of the very thing that epitomizes being a woman – the blessed virtue of motherhood and role of “life-bringer”. For too long the american people have bought into this warped kind of thinking and regardless of the legal status of abortion in our nation it is high time that we as human beings would stand up and call it the unfortunate tragedy that it is. To hail it as some great rights achievement is disgusting. There are many species of animals that are being treated as more valuable than human beings. Society needs to stand up and be responsible for a change.

Posted by: theregoesthecountry | August 19, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

How can I as a Christain Vote for McCain?
Easy.. God helps those who help them selves. I believe in charity for the needy, not charity for the masses.
I think children brought up with strong christain beliefs should keep their leggs together, therefore not need abortions. And Yes, we all sin and people arent perfect thefore there will be unwanted pregnancies, but these soon to be parents should take responsibility and work to raise their children. And again… as a christain I will gladly help the truely needy.
Also I believe as a christain that hard work is rewarded and with faith and hard work I will have be a prosperpous, taxpaying, economy stimulating, ethical person.

Posted by: mom8336 | August 19, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Obama is pro-infanticide, pro fetal murder by dismemberment, and pro behavior manifested reproductive dysfunction… …I find it difficult to stomach that there are so few in positions of prominence willing to speak the truth regarding the blatant intellectual dishonesty and governmental irresponsibility inherent in any validation of biologically nonsensical reproductive behavior. No one can tell another person that they cannot privately engage in such folly yet it remains highly irresponsible to encourage it. Those who attempt to place acceptance of homosexuality on par with valid human rights claims to race and gender equality have serious cognitive deficiencies. Who we unchangeably are is written into our DNA (race, gender etc.) and not defined by malleable, environmentally-influenced behavioral tendencies. There is not nor will there ever be discovered a “gay” gene, so placing opposition to governmental validation of homosexual behavior on even footing with discrimination against any verifiable DNA determined trait is foolish. What exactly is gained by society or moreover, what is this strange societal interest in perpetuating continued dysfunction in others? While we must accept that these behaviors will likely always exist within our society and that we should never breed hatred toward anyone, we still must demand intellectual honesty and responsibility from our leaders regarding these behaviors that must truly be recognized as the dysfunction that they are.

Posted by: theregoesthecountry | August 19, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

What a coincidence! Keating raised $11,000 for McCain’s first campaign, and Obama’s Arab friend, Rezko, raised $10,000 for Obama’s first campaign.

Posted by: S Adams | August 19, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating’s airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating’s luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain’s wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a “sweetheart deal.”

Posted by: Jennifer | August 19, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

What does it really matter WHAT the VP nominee thinks? They have no say & NO power. And no ONE issue should be a litmus test. I am pro-choice, but have voted for anti-choice people when the majority of their ideas coincide with mine.It scares me that people will focus on one issue to the exclusion of others – and that people like that are actually allowed to vote.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | August 19, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

Well said, theregoesthecountry!

Posted by: S Adams | August 19, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

The whole Democratic Party needs a psych eval…
I am hard-pressed to defend McCain… the establishment candidate who was not chosen by the people but foisted upon his party… but he is certainly the lesser of two evils…

Posted by: theregoesthecountry | August 19, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

Yeah, McCain needs Lieberman to be by his side whispering things into his ear like he always does. That’s really the reason he’s always around him. Watch as everytime McCain puts his foot in his mouth, Lieberman is there to whisper in his ear what McCain doesn’t know. Two old man, way past their time who thinks America is still in the 60′s. Both should have the decency to retire and let someone younger run. Old fools.

Posted by: Jake | August 19, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

Thank you S Adams!

Posted by: theregoesthecountry | August 19, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Jan McCoy…stop being ignorant!!!!!!!!!
S Adams, Phil Gramm did “quit” but he is back on the campaign trail advising McCain, so in Gramm’s words, stop whining!

Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

There’s no law that says stupid people can’t vote.
Politicians on BOTH sides can’t afford that! LOL!!!

Posted by: mom8336 | August 19, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

I guess John isnt so typlon after all! McCain is this biggest flip flopper, he is all weak aging muscle and no brain!!

Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

S Adams-Obama gave the money Rezko donated to charity. What did McCain do with the money from Keating? Use it to pay for the staff and Keating’s Bahama home? Also when people speak of Rezko, Republicans completely fail to mention that Rezko was indicted with a major Republican fundraiser.

Posted by: jennifer | August 19, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

LOL…’He’s a sleeper, a closet muslim, the anti-christ,’ and these people are allowed to vote?

Posted by: allowed to vote | August 19, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Jennifer,
Obama’s shady house deal with Rezko was also called a “sweetheart deal”. Obama was friend with slum-lord Rezko, who donated $150,000 to Obama for his White house deal and $21,000 for his Senate bid. Rezko brought to light how dirty the politics in the state of Illinois was.

Posted by: S Adams | August 19, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

There goes the country – It is an absolute insult to the intelligence of women everywhere to equate with valid rights causes such as equal pay, equal treatment, etc the degradation and undermining of the very thing that epitomizes being a woman – the blessed virtue of motherhood and role of “life-bringer”.
I take my role as “life-bringer” very seriously, but your post is an insult as my body belongs to me- not you.

Posted by: Jennifer | August 19, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

McCain has to have the biggest democrat traitor by his side whispering in his ear the correct answer (because of course he doesnt know) when he sticks his foot in his mouth, but this is the guy you want for president. The guy who has the biggest washington lobbyist surrounding him, the people (ex. Phil Gramm) who caused millions of americans (aka whiners, per Gramm) to lose their homes!

Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

theregoesthecountry
That was a very complicated and rather wordy defense of bigotry and intolerance.

Posted by: jock59801 | August 19, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Romney would be the only intelligent choice – but whoops, that’s a bad assumption.
McCain needs a handler and is ready to commit to only one term? Why would we want him then… good grief. He’s trying to get all Hillary’s supporters, I don’t think most are that foolish. He’s trying to get everybody but will only succeed at pissing off everybody.

Posted by: Disgusted | August 19, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

theregoesthecountry……theregoesthecountryismydad better hope he doesn’t have that gay gene….

Posted by: chris | August 19, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

S Adams – Yes, Rezko did donate that money to Obama’s campaign just as he donated to countless campaigns in Illinois. Obama gave all the Rezko donated monies to charity. In addition, Obama’s dealings have never led him afoul of the law and he never did any favors for Rezko. McCain, on the other hand has offered up and delivered on plenty of favors and many of my friends lost their pensions as a result.

Posted by: jennifer | August 19, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

Theregoesthecountry: Gays do not have a “DNA determined trait”, so we are “perpetuating continued dysfunction”. Are you a member of the Third Reich?

Posted by: LetUsLeaf | August 19, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

obama neglected his constituents as they suffered in substandard housing in his district because they were owned by rezko

Posted by: chris | August 19, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Damned if he does, and damned if he doesn’t. This is what you get when you dupe a strongly religious group for a quarter of a century. They are your base but their views alienate the majority who are pro-choice. Poor Republicans.

Posted by: Edward | August 19, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

furthermore, obama gave the most amount of money to superdelegates between 2005 and now….

Posted by: chris | August 19, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

I want Romney for McCain’s VP!
First Romney is about a foot taller than McCain, that should look real good when they are together.
Then Romney is a Mormon and we all know how much the right wing-nut church people like Mormons!
Then we can watch the Dem 527′s play commercials (from the Repub primaries) all fall with Romney insulting McCain and visa versa – in a continuous loop!
I vote for Romney, the best VP choice out there!

Posted by: Davis | August 19, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Nicole, What is typlon? Anything you come up with about a Republican can go back on a Democrat 10 times over.

Posted by: S Adams | August 19, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

Jock —- you obviously have the comprehension of a 2 year old. Bigotry and opposition to unfounded support for dysfunctional behavior are quite different… especially when dealing with maleable behavioral tendancies that one uses to define themself…
Jennifer – I don’t want control of anyone’s body… just acknowledgement that those who glorify tragedy are despicable souls… Society should deem abortion undesirable… and to be avoided at all costs but there are those who profit from it and promote it as some “right” what about the right to life? the rights of the father… To understand put yourself in the following scenerio… If an infertile woman’s surrogate decided half way through the pregnancy to kill the baby… the inability of the real mother to have a voice in that decision demonstrates the way a man is treated on this issue. How would you feel?

Posted by: theregoesthecountry | August 19, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

theregoesthecountry,
Fortunately “most” sane people in this country are pro-choice and don’t share your opinion or your grandpa’s opinion on when a cluster of eggs inside of a woman is called a baby… Thank god!
For you or any of you right wing-nut dumbasses to tell any woman what she can or can’t do with her own body during at least the first trimester of a pregnancy is just an insane.
How any government or group of wackos can tell a person what to do with their bodies and force them into back alleys to have abortions done is contrary to all aspects of freedom in this country and certainly around the “free and civilized world” as well – you dumbass!
Just an opinion of a regular guy that respects women, unlike you and your grandpa old fool candidate McProlife!

Posted by: Davis | August 19, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

When love short-circuits and confuses reproductively-rooted “Eros” love with the other valid facets of love that can be experienced between genders and even within same gender constructs you see the dysfunction known as homosexual behavior. It is in fact inane and misplaced. This is not bigotry… merely fact.

Posted by: theregoesthecountry | August 19, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Theregoesthecountry – you’re one scary dude. Learn to spell your big words.

Posted by: LetUsLeaf | August 19, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Isnt bush suppose to take the world over.im still waiting

Posted by: celi | August 19, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

Davis — one who revels in the degradation and devaluing of women for self-serving reasons is more accurate… Abortion is simply a human tragedy… face it…

Posted by: theregoesthecountry | August 19, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

Davis — one who revels in the degradation and devaluing of women for self-serving reasons is more accurate… Abortion is simply a human tragedy… face it…
Posted by: theregoesthecountry | Aug 19, 2008 8:06:32 PM
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Fortunately 60% of the US population doesn’t agree with your assessment, thank god. Neither does most of the people in most of the other civilized countries around the world.
The decision to end a pregnancy is a private one, between the father, her doctor, her pastor (or other) and her family and friends. It is not the business of the GOVERNMENT, no how and no way!
A lot of things are a tragedy in this world, like th 142 million orphans with no families to take care of them around the world. Now that is a real tragedy.
Where are all the right wing-nuts stepping up to take care of those children???
No they and your old fool candidate would rather make abortion illegal and add to that tragedy…..

Posted by: Davis | August 19, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

Joe says, “I mean if you aren’t going to stand up for a couple cells in the womb then why would they vote for you.”
Joe, are you really that ignorant? Don’t you know that for most abortiosn the baby is far mroe devleoped than that? Obama wants abortiosn to even happen until late third term, let alone partial birth and so on! Call it what you will to relive your conscience, but scinece is showing more and more jsut how human and developed a fetus is even after jsut 5 weeks–developed brain waves, beating heart, etc! Either way, its murder!

Posted by: NotJoe | August 19, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

I don’t think McCain is really considering a pro-choice VP as the media is leading us to believe. I think the story is just put out there just to lower the effect of last week’s forum where Obama performed horribly and for the first time it was seen that McCain could be a better and more decisive president than Obama.

Posted by: icen von | August 19, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Davis writes, “”The decision to end a pregnancy is a private one”
–Oh really? Was the developing baby inside given any otehr option?! You guys are so funny how you think there is only one life, one beating heart, one body affected! It is sick.

Posted by: NotJoeorDavis | August 19, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

I get the feeling he’s not serious about this. He’s just letting this leak out to try to appeal to moderates and women, but when the time comes he’ll go with a pro-lifer.

Posted by: Ryan | August 19, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

wont it be great when we rid ourselves of this evil republican party this fall when obama wins and most of the seats up for election become democrat…then we can repair all the damage the devils party has done.

Posted by: tom | August 19, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

I think that if McCain picks either Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman, it further shows his military/national defense tunnel-vision. Aside from support for the Iraq war and hardline stance on Iran, what do Lieberman and McCain have in common? Or is McCain in agreement with a great many of Lieberman’s stated positions and only running to the right in an attempt to win? Remember in 2004 there was a discussion about McCain being John Kerry’s VP candidate. Many people in the know say they were serious discussions and for it happen McCain would have had to switch parties. What does Tom Ridge add to the ticket? Economic prowess? Balancing budgets? Healthcare, banking, immigration reform? None of it. Just more bluster and saber-rattling. John McCain are you running to be president or Chairman of the Joint Chiefs?

Posted by: TSnow27604 | August 19, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

hey, tom, that sounds like a pig talking about dirty little human kids and offering to wash them up

Posted by: icen von | August 19, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

Hmmm…with Lieberman we get an Israeli Vice President. But with Obama we get a Kenyan President…gee, tough call

Posted by: Jane | August 19, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

icen von—very funny just like mccain and all republicans funny but very evil.

Posted by: tom | August 19, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

jane—and with mccain we get someone from panama.

Posted by: tom | August 19, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

TSnow27604 said “what do Lieberman and McCain have in common?” They shouldn’t have much in common. The idea for picking someone for VP, is to have someone with different ideas than yours – that way most “bases” are covered.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | August 19, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

These presidential candidates are your choices. Respect them and support them !!
It does not matter who or what their pastors religion their pastors are…..freedom of speech, religion and beliefs….remember the Constitution ?? Be positive and support their V.P. choices who were approved by the management. God help us !!

Posted by: g.coops | August 19, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

Davis writes, “”The decision to end a pregnancy is a private one”
–Oh really? Was the developing baby inside given any otehr option?! You guys are so funny how you think there is only one life, one beating heart, one body affected! It is sick.
Posted by: NotJoeorDavis | Aug 19, 2008 8:23:26 PM
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Hey NotJoeorDavis,
You dumbass I am not that passionate about abortion. However, my point is that a whole lot of women are – and they should be. Controlling ones own body should be a God given right.
Not the right of some right wing wacko like you or your old fool candidate McProlife!
I just hope all the women get the message, you need to get out and vote for Obama or else these Orwellian Republican thugs are going to be making the choice for you!!!!

Posted by: Davis | August 19, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

It seems all the paid posters for the Bush-McCain campaign are out in forces tonight spreading their lies, half-truths and more lies.

Posted by: Herb Gray | August 19, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Ain’t going to happen. Although McCain finished 4th from the bottom in his Naval Academy of over 800, he is still to smart to pick a pro-choice candidate. Co;in Powell would be his best choice, but Powell would never accept.

Posted by: Brother Bill | August 19, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Oh, and I should have said: then even more lies.

Posted by: Herb Gray | August 19, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

No matter who he picks he is most likely to loose, so why not experiment and be a true maverick and choose a VP that is a bit more reasonable than some American extremists who have run the country downwards. Everyone at heart is prolife but reducing abortions to the extent possible and keeping abortion safe, performing it very selectively and performing it very rarely under some special circumstances maybe the way to find some middle ground.

Posted by: gjkotw01 | August 19, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

S ADAMS ARE YOU SERIOUS, IS THIS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL..YOU MAY AS WELL SAY “I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I” THE GOP CANT STAY ON THE ISSUE SO I GUESS YOU CANT EITHER

Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Who cares? McSame sucks. No more Bushes! No more Republican misrule!

Posted by: adam | August 19, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

SO IS MCCAIN WILLING TO ABANDON HIS BASE TO WIN, THE SAME THING HE ACCUSED OBAMA OF DOING. WHY IS IT THAT MCCAIN GETS A FREE PASS TO POINT THE FIGURE THEN TURN AROUND AND DO WHAT HE ACCUSES SOMEONE ELSE OF DOING BUT NEVER BE CALLED ON IT??????

Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Obama is a filthy black muslim animal. McCain is the only real American in this race. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND SAVE HER FROM THE SUBHUMAN COMMUNIST ISLAMOFASCIST HORDES!

Posted by: RushMan | August 19, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

theregoesthecountry—what’s truly insulting and degrading to the women of this nation is that such a blatantly misogynistic main could be our next president. not only is mccain anti-choice, he is also opposed to insurance companies covering birth control and supports abstinence only sex education (so apparently, he’s also PRO-unintended pregnancy). john mccain himself said back in 1999 that overturnung roe v. wade would ultimately be a BAD thing, stating that it would “force x number of women to undergo dangerous and illegal operations” (he now claims those comments were taken out of context). john mccain also doesn’t believe women deserve equal pay in the workplace because they quote “need the education and training” because “so many of them are the heads of household”. on top of all this, the man tells rape jokes and called his wife a c-nt in public. mccain sees women as sex objects or dollar signs. he does not respect them, and having mccain represent the women of this nation would be a true insult.

Posted by: ejohn38 | August 19, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

rushman—dont you have a kkk meating to go to —-wow what a wicked rant.

Posted by: tom | August 19, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

ejohn38 – women have gone too far with their women’s lib crap and need to be reigned in. An old school guy like McCain will help put those selfish, spoiled liberal lesbians back in their place – THE KITCHEN!

Posted by: RushMan | August 19, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

tom – it’s a proven fact that blacks are inferior to white’s. you can’t argue with biology. This is why the stupid Dems are going to lose again.

Posted by: RushMan | August 19, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

gjkotw01,
I agree with your abortion stance, but realistically that is not how it is. Women are using abortion as birth control, and according to Obama it is okay to have an abortion in any semester of a pregnancy. This is scary. A woman who is 7 month preg, could get mad at her boyfriend and decide she doesn’t want to have his baby and abort it. There are thousands of people who are on adoption waiting lists for years who would love to adopt that aborted baby. Abortion is a selfish act, but abortion after the 1st trimester is murder. A woman has a right to do what she wants with her body, but killing a baby is not like getting a tattoo or body piercing. There are too many birth control methods available for women to even have to consider abortion.
McCain/Romney ’08!

Posted by: S Adams | August 19, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

No problem here with abortion. The world is overpopulated anyway.

Posted by: Maximeliano | August 19, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Mccain is a creepy old man of poor moral character and yellow teeth. He consorted with the enemy signing documents renouncing the United State’s fight against communism. He cheated on his sacred wife with a young slut, how’s that for family values? McCain was against Bush before he was for him before he was against him before he was for him again. Can’t trust McCain any farther than he can jump. McCain wants to provoke a direct nuclear war with Russia which could very well end with our kids and our wives being melted alive. McCain is a movie star elitist who wears $500 shoes and wants a tax cut for: himself.

Posted by: Scotti | August 19, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

Nicole, Using all caps means you are yelling, what are you getting so worked up about? Maybe it’s because Obama is dropping in the polls. I can keep up the conversation all night, but what is the point? I can give as good as I get.

Posted by: S Adams | August 19, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

rushman—you are a fool. we are all created equal..like you bible banging republicans like to always quote and use the bible god says we are all created equal..also obama and black people look alot more like jesus and all people of the bible then do we white people..so get over your kkk rant and go have sex with your sister you freak.

Posted by: tom | August 19, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

I was looking under the desk at Saddleback .. I like old men!

Posted by: Scotti. | August 19, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Rushman is a democrat, pretending to be a Republican.

Posted by: S Adams | August 19, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

McCain looks like Napoleon. McCain is covered with cancer. McCain says things about his opponent that turn out to resemble McCain more than his opponent. For instance McCain flip flops constantly on just about every issue out there. McCain signed anti american documents and went on Hanoi radio to denounce america (I think he’s a sleeper chinese communist) so McCain’s patriotism is very much in question wheras obama was in indonesia as a 6 year old, McCain was consorting with the enemy as an adult! McCain just voted against a huge veterans benefits program. McCain has starred in several movies and wears designer italian shoes, has hundreds of millions and looks down at his opponent like he’s a lesser human, sounds elitist as hell! McCain is constantly in the media..not for issues..but for attack ads. Now he’s hanging around with turncoat liberman who’s pro abortion just a day after McCain said he was pro life! McCain disgusts me and he should disgust you too.

Posted by: Scotti | August 19, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

S Adams: irregardless of the abortion debate, mccain has proven to the women of this nation that he’s a raging misogynist. i will point out that although he is anti-choice, he’s opposed to insurance companies covering birth control (although he’s okay with the coverage of viagra) and he supports abstinence only sex-education. so apparently he’s also PRO-unintended pregnancy. mccain himself said in 1999 that overturning roe v. wade would ultimately be a BAD thing because it would “force x number of women to undergo illegal and dangerous operations”. he was right then, he’s wrong now. banning abortions will not stop people (desperate women, esp. desperate teenagers) from seeking out abortions. women have been having abortions for thousands of years, long before there was ever such a thing as an abortion clinic.
but, moving on from the abortion debate. mccain opposed an equal pay bill for women, explaining that they “need education and training” instead. mccain opposed spending millions to prevent unintended teen pregnancy, opposed legislation requiring that abstinence-only programs be medically accurate and scientifically based.
mccain opposed Title X, the nation’s family planning program, which provides low-income and uninsured women and families with health care services ranging from breast and cervical cancer screening to birth control. he opposed repealing the “global gag rule”, and so on and so forth. the man also tells rape jokes, attacked a 17 year old girl at the time for being ugly, just because she was a clinton, and called his wife a c-nt in public.

Posted by: ejohn38 | August 19, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

If McCain picks Lieberman, he better watch his back, Lieberman has certainly demonstrated he can’t be trusted, ask any member of the DNC.
I still want Jindal, maybe he could exorcise ole John’s devils.

Posted by: JR | August 19, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

McCain is reckless and stupid. Shooting from the hip means literally out of his rear. McCain thought he was right about the sunni awakening shooting his mouth off and he was dead wrong. McCain DOES want to be in Iraq 100 years, make no mistake. McCain thinks you’re not rich unless you make more than 5 million a year, that was not a joke, it was moment of naked shoot from the hip honesty which he regretted almost instantly. Wow 5 million a year is when you’re finally rich? I don’t know about the rest 300 million Americans out there but 1 million a year is quite a long ways away from what I make in a year. America belongs to all of us not McCain’s wealthy elitist lobbyist buddies. Voting McCain into office would be an even worse mistake than voting for Bush. In fact I wish Bush were running, at least we know where Bush stands on things. Don’t have a clue if McCain is for something today or against it.

Posted by: Scotti | August 19, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

ejohn38—i agree mccain is a wicked nasty man and makes my stomach curn just listening to him say “my friends”.i am not his friend and never would be he is evil and i dont hang around evil people.

Posted by: tom | August 19, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

Dear McCain,
Don’t fall into the Liberal’s trap. Pick Powell. That will set well with the black community and set very well with the veterans…besides, wouldn’t it be nice to be a 4-Star’s boss…?

Posted by: Ken Richards | August 19, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Please do not pick anyone else but ROMNEY…We will lose the election if you choose otherwise

Posted by: Steven | August 19, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

I will laugh if McCain picks a pro-choice vp. All the supposed Christians who hated Romney because he is a Mormon get what they deserve.

Posted by: Steve | August 19, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

Mccain pick Sarah Palin!! Shes pro life and hot like Hillary!!

Posted by: Democrats 4 Mccain | August 19, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Sarah Palin for VP! This will give us women voters for sure!
and shes HOT!!

Posted by: Democrats 4 Mccain | August 19, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Who Started Cold War II ?
http://antiwar.com/pat/index_pat.html
John McCain’s War Experience, via the Russia-Georgia SetUp, Did Not Work..At All and Neither will John McCain’s attempt at the Presidency of the USA.
by Patrick J. Buchanan
The American people should be eternally grateful to Old Europe for having spiked the Bush-McCain plan to bring Georgia into NATO.
Had Georgia been in NATO when Mikheil Saakashvili invaded South Ossetia, we would be eyeball to eyeball with Russia, facing war in the Caucasus, where Moscow’s superiority is as great as U.S. superiority in the Caribbean during the Cuban missile crisis.
If the Russia-Georgia war proves nothing else, it is the insanity of giving erratic hotheads in volatile nations the power to drag the United States into war.
From Harry Truman to Ronald Reagan, as Defense Secretary Robert Gates said, U.S. presidents have sought to avoid shooting wars with Russia, even when the Bear was at its most beastly.
Truman refused to use force to break Stalin’s Berlin blockade. Ike refused to intervene when the Butcher of Budapest drowned the Hungarian Revolution in blood. LBJ sat impotent as Leonid Brezhnev’s tanks crushed the Prague Spring. Jimmy Carter’s response to Brezhnev’s invasion of Afghanistan was to boycott the Moscow Olympics. When Brezhnev ordered his Warsaw satraps to crush Solidarity and shot down a South Korean airliner killing scores of U.S. citizens, including a congressman, Reagan did – nothing.
These presidents were not cowards. They simply would not go to war when no vital U.S. interest was at risk to justify a war. Yet, had George W. Bush prevailed and were Georgia in NATO, U.S. Marines could be fighting Russian troops over whose flag should fly over a province of 70,000 South Ossetians who prefer Russians to Georgians.
The arrogant folly of the architects of U.S. post-Cold War policy is today on display. By bringing three ex-Soviet republics into NATO, we have moved the U.S. red line for war from the Elbe almost to within artillery range of the old Leningrad.

Posted by: o. | August 19, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

McCain should stick with a pro-lifer to have a decent chance.
I hope Obama loses.

Posted by: Mack | August 19, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

McCain’s Broken Classics…..
#1 Hit: I told You “The Surge Would Work”
Note: As Though McCain Originated “The Surge” When in Fact “The Surge” is General McFarland’s Military Strategy and it did not happen at Anbar, “The Surge” happened in (Bagdad) The Bloody Anbar Awakening Happened Almost a Year Before “The Surge” and General Petraeus was Not in Iraq, During “The Anbar Awakening” or “The Surge”…
The Anbar Awakening: Is the Crucial Turning Point in the Iraq War and without it, The Surge would still be at Day One and the Casualties Would still be Prevalent. Yet Semi-Senile John McCain has Projected himself as the Creater of “The Surge”, as though, Mccain Concieved, Created and his “Surge Strategy” was Implemented by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the President, based on Mccain’s “Military Experience” when all He did was Sign on a Non-Partisan BandWagon to send an Additional 20,000 Troops….
Thats All McCain Did.
McCain Hit #2: “I know how to Win Wars”
Oh Really John ? Are you Counting Viet Nam as a WIN for America ? You were Locked Up and being Tortured Day & Night, Remember ? John, Name One Military Strategy that you had Concieved, Created and had Implemented by the President & his Joint Chiefs of Staff…
Please and Don’t Mention “The Surge” I just Squashed that LIE
McCain Hit #3: “No Timetable for Withdrawal, Come Home in Victory”
What is a Victory to You John McCain ? The President of Iraq wants us OUT, The President of the USA is setting a “Time Horizon” and its been said, the Time Frame is (2010) Yet, We should Leave in Victory, Not Enough Dead Bodies, for you John ??
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John McCain Hit #4: “The 4 1/2 Year Military Strategy Failed, Because it was a Poorly Planned & Poorly Executed”
McCain is Condemning Joint Chiefs Of Staff, The President, The Vice President, Himself, The Senators & Congressmen and Women who Voted on all the Military Strategies, leading up, to the “Surge” and Above all else the US Military Performed their Jobs Incompetently, Thats Exactly what he’s saying…
Yet McCain Double Talks and Calls the U.S Military Honorable, Brave and Corageous..McCain has to Open his EYES WIDE and Accept that he was a Major Force in Voting 95% of the Time on the Iraq War and All Bush Military, Foreign and Domestic Policies….Fact

Posted by: o. | August 19, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Just happened to have my caps on, I wouldn’t yell. The point I was trying to make is hold both nominees accountable, dont excuse one because he is your partied nominee, and make excuses that make no since, and please dont make ignorant comments about the other person. Lets be fair to both.

Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Oh goodness- we are on fire tonight.
Hello people!

Posted by: clarity | August 19, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

Exactly o. McCain has a lower approval rating with veterans but he has never voted for any bill to help veterans. So the men and woman serving our country right now in a war that should have never happened that McCain voted for and wants to continue (even after the powers to be dont want us there) can not depend on McCain.
I am all for anyone in power changing their mind when they have better information, but when you have someone changing on everything at one time to please there party, maybe they shouldn’t be running for President

Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

With Old Man Lieberman, Alongside his Old Senior Citizen Pal John “Semi-Senile” McCain …
Look for one Hell of a Geriatric Presidential Combination…
Two Ugly Old, Pasty, Geriatric Looking, AARP, Which One will Keel Over First, In the Oval Office or Worse…
Which one will Fall Asleep During the Swearing In Ceremony or Worse, Have a Heart Attack, in the Oval Office ?
2 Of the Oldest Geezers to Ever Run for President & Vice President of the USA !!
The True, Senior Citizens Tour……
I Hope their Blue Cross is Paid Off ?
No Country For Old Men Campaign !!!!!!
Either Man would Not Fulfill their 1st terms….
What am I saying………
This Combination is Doomed for Failure !!!!

Posted by: o. | August 19, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

ridge ‘may’ help mccain carry pennsylvania, lieberman will not carry connecticut. what mccain needs is someone to help carry michigan, wisconsin and minnesota, while keeping florida, only colin powell will do that.he also can keep ohio and possibly pennsylvania, and put new jersey, maine and new hampshire in play.but mccain is a stupid man, and obama wins unless he screws up, which democrats have a habit of doing.as for me, i vote for a 3rd party candidate no matter what.

Posted by: jim | August 19, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

McCain has been an arrogant disrespectful barking mutt for a candidate. He’s dying (literally) to have a negative campaign, I think it’s time he gets what he’s asking for. McCain the 4 plane crashing, young tail chasing, enemy collaborating, flip flopping, elitist, wife cheating, lying out the side of his face old man has a history of being stupid and shooting his mouth off that goes back to the stone ages. Yes he’s a liar, remember when both he and his child bride both said he wanted to run a respectful campaign on the issues? Obama is a loyal family man, has been completely respectful of McCain, and has focused on the issues. Can’t say that about McCain. Obama’s a devout God-fearing christian. Does McCain even go to church? Obama’s never, ever collaborated with the enemy like McCain did. McCain’s doing it right now with Lieberman just a day after saying how pro life he was, he can’t even avoid flip flopping on that issue! I don’t trust McCain and neither should you. I don’t trust him not to get our wives and families killed in some made-up world war III. I don’t trust him to promote family values with a history like his and his wife’s. Have you seen him in SNL skits and his movies? Scary… I don’t trust him to keep America from sinking to China’s economy. I certainly don’t trust him to solve the problems of poverty and healthcare. I don’t trust him on the environment, which 90% of environmental scientists are warning over and over will be the end of us all, McCain wants more oil instead of focusing on a plan for getting us off oil altogether! That should be our #1 priority, not putting an oil well off California beaches and ruining their economy to boot. Bush proved it in 2000, McCain is a loser. Time to put him out to pasture and get on with 21st century here.

Posted by: Scotti | August 19, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

I use to think anybody would be better than Bush, but I’m starting to doubt McCain!

Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

ejohn38,
Where are you getting your facts about McCain and womens rights? Huffington Post or Obama’s own website? If Obama is for equal pay, why are there less female staffers on his team? Why are they getting paid $6,000 less than the males?
McCain’s staff has more women and they are paid more!
When Obama was asked about this issue, he refused to respond.

Posted by: S Adams | August 19, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

Nicole, I’m not making ignorant comments about either candidate. I’m stating facts. You want to put down John McCain, when Obama has a shadier background. Just pointing them out.

Posted by: S Adams | August 19, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

How can we be the number 1 country when all McCain wants to do is “bomb, bomb, bomb” Iran and any other country that does something he doesnt like, while China is getting richer and owning more and more of the U.S.????? He has no economic plan, I guess he will live that to people like Phil Gramm and Charlie Black (lobbyist) who work for the big banks that caused the mortgage crisis and foreign leaders labeled as gorillas.

Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

Jayhawk
oops! Um, have you forgotten that McWar has previously LOST THE NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT?
Anothe low information voter!
Ha Ha Ha Ha
I love McCain’s supporters. They have a lot in common with him!

Posted by: roxanne | August 19, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Jan McCoy
Another low information voter. John McCain was born in Panama!

Posted by: roxanne | August 19, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

John McCain, Randy Scheunemann, Joe Lieberman and Certain Republican Officials were counting on this Georgia-Russia CONFLICT to HELP Jon McCain…..
It has’nt, as well as the Saddleback SetUp
It Exposed John McCain as an Antagonizer and Propogandist, who will Do Absolutely ANYTHING to stack the Cards in his FAVOR, REAGARDLESS of the CONSEQUENCES.
JOE LIEBERMAN: WHO WOULD YOU WANT IN A WAR OR SECURITY CRISIS ?
JOE LIEBERMAN: IN EACH NEW PRESIDENCY, SOMETHING BIG HAS HAPPENED DURING THE FIRST YEAR OF A NEW PRESIDENT, WE NEED SOMEONE THAT CAN “HANDLE SUCH A CRISIS”…
RESPONSE: AN DO WHAT ?
START A NUCLEAR WAR WITH (RUSSIA) THE NATION WITH ONE OF THE LARGEST, IF NOT THE LARGEST, STOCKPILE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS…GIVE ME OBAMA.
JOHN MCCAIN’S CAMPAIGN: IF A WAR WERE TO OCCUR, BEFORE THE ELECTION OR DURING THE ELECTION, IT WOULD BENEFIT “JOHN MCCAIN”
CRAZY SAAKASHVILLI SHOULD’VE WAITED UNTIL OCT 31.08 TO ATTACK S. OSETTIA, OR UNTIL GEORGIA BECAME A NATO MEMBER !!
THIS WHOLE THING IS A POORLY EXECUTED PLAN, TO WIN THE WHITE HOUSE AN IT STINKS TO THE LOWEST OF LEVELS….
STRAIGHT DOWN TO THE BOWELS OF HELL !!!
JOHN MCCAIN IS A NUT…A BONAFIDE, CERTIFIDE AND QUALIFIED…. NUT !!!
CAUTION: WAIT UNTIL THE END OF OF THE OLYMPICS..HU JIN TAO IS A SUPPORTER OF RUSSIA, THEY DID WAR EXCERCISES LAST YEAR IN AUG OF 2007…
HU JIN TAO WILL MAKE HIMSELF KNOWN AND FOR WHO, AFTER THE OLYMPICS…MARK MY WORDS !!!!

Posted by: o. | August 19, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

Response to cj who said:
“True Christianity is about helping those less fortunate than you, right?”
True Christianity is about believing in Jesus Christ and his teachings. It is good and ethical to voluntarily give something you have to someone who needs it. It is not ethical to force a third person, upon pain of incarceration, to give their earned money to a someone who favors you or who you favor. Particularly when that type of arrangement disincentivizes national productivity and progress by punishing those who do well and rewarding stagnation and lack of self-improvement.
The richest 50% of Americans pay 96% of income taxes. The richest 10% of Americans pay 65% of the income taxes, but make far less than 65% of the income. The fact is that the top 10% already contributes a highly disproportionate share. My ’07 state+federal tax as a physician was 41% after deductions. That means I worked 41% of the year until I made my first cent. Obama plans to skyrocket my taxes with a 5% raise in federal, 6% raise in FUTA on my income, 10% corporate tax increase which affects part of my income, and of course a 10% tax increase on any capital gains I might have, for example from selling a house or stock to pay for all of his OTHER taxes. All told this will put me well over 50% income tax rate. I will work Jan – July before I make a cent of income. That is just wrong. So before you shoot off about how ethical it is to force other people besides yourself to pay more taxes, you might want to consider that personal generosity of commendable, but voting to increase taxes for another group of people is not being generous or ethical.

Posted by: HawkTheSlayer | August 19, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

scottie is another one deceived by the nobama campaign obama has sis nothing but play the race card oh i dont look like the other presidents on the money oh did i mention iam black wtf you are an idiot you probably dont even watch the campaigns just listen to sound bites or worse watch the lieing ass obabm and his anti american friends wright ayers farrakaun and who else what about his wish washy ethics and the people has has chose to be around in the past lead me to beleive he aint the one so go blow your anti american tax and spen liberal rhetoric elsewhere

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Nat Turner
That was hysterical and you’re so right!
Personally I hope he does pick Lieberman. Have you heard the tone of his voice? He and McCain are two of the most boring, mealy mouthed speakers I’ve ever heard. We’re talking human sominex. People will be dozing off in the aisles at their convention!

Posted by: roxanne | August 19, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

McCain picking a pro choice person would be a mistake. There are millions upon millions of us who are anti-abortion and we believe this is one of the main issues in our country; killing babies is done only by monsters.

Posted by: Jan McCoy | August 19, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Time for gymnastics but before I go, here are my choises for McLoser!
Mickey Mouse
The tooth fairy
Bozo the clown
Mr. McGoo

Posted by: roxanne | August 19, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

i have a little to add about taxes there hawk I know that the wealthy pay alot of taxes and it si not fair that someone works so hard to get to the top by being a doctor and going to med school and other who work themselves up but i too pay abit of taxes i make about 40,000 so when i get hit at the 33% tax bracket who do you think that hurts worse somone who makes 100,000 plus a year or me I can tell you me it takes a third of my income how is that fair i dont beleive however that you should be taxed more either but just remember what it was like to be the little guy I am a cma going to nursing school you know how many freaking hours I work to make that money i have to wrk agencies and travel plus school I understand what you are saying but you are not the only one that gets hit hard and you are right if that famn obama get in there i am looking to move to arizonz and become a soveirn citazen

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

i have a little to add about taxes there hawk I know that the wealthy pay alot of taxes and it si not fair that someone works so hard to get to the top by being a doctor and going to med school and other who work themselves up but i too pay abit of taxes i make about 40,000 so when i get hit at the 33% tax bracket who do you think that hurts worse somone who makes 100,000 plus a year or me I can tell you me it takes a third of my income how is that fair i dont beleive however that you should be taxed more either but just remember what it was like to be the little guy I am a cma going to nursing school you know how many freaking hours I work to make that money i have to wrk agencies and travel plus school I understand what you are saying but you are not the only one that gets hit hard and you are right if that famn obama get in there i am looking to move to arizonz and become a soveirn citazen

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

I think McCain will lose the whole conservative base if he choses a pro choice vp. He can’t be that stupid, can he.

Posted by: erin | August 19, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

yeah roxy i cant see you are baffled by nobama bull&*( because it is just rhetoric without the brilliance\

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

yeah roxy i cant see you are baffled by nobama bull&*( because it is just rhetoric without the brilliance\

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Jan McCoy
So abortion is more of an issue or important than the war and the economy?
I myself am not for abortion, but am more concerned with having a job and not having anymore soldiers loose their life in a point less war.

Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

i enjoyed how you criticized what i had to say about mccain’s position on “women’s rights” in general, yet only addressed the equal pay aspect, which was one of the smaller points of my post, and neglected to respond to any of the other more pressing issues. for example, the fact that mccain is anti-choice, yet apparently pro-unintended pregnancy. for the record you raise a good point, although i think it’s safe to say that obama and mccain do not personally handle the payroll for those working on their campaign. also, the equal pay bill mccain opposed was one which would ensure female employees that they would have the opportunity to receive backpay for discrimination, if they discover they are suffering from it. as long as the women working on barack obama’s campaign feel their compensation is commensurate with their education, experience, workload, and etc. there’s nothing of concern. once a female obama advisor voices that she is experiencing discrimination, then i’ll be concerned. and i never claimed to be real crazy about obama. i definitely think he’s a much more responsible choice than mccain. no politician is perfect, but in this election, it’s hard to believe mccain is even being considered.
what i’d really like to hear is an explanation of mccain’s opinions on reproductive health. since he is opposed to teaching young people how to avoid unintended pregnancies, and wants to make BC harder to obtain, yet also wants to ban abortion, i’d like to hear his plan for how to deal with all the unwanted babies that could result from such a combination of policies. in addition, mccain himself has even stated that the overturning of roe v. wade is a BAD IDEA, and will not stop abortions from happening. it will only make the process illegal and more dangerous. mccain’s policies on women’s health issues and reproductive rights are bothersome in themselves, but downright frightening when you compound it with some of his other behaviors. such as: perpetually cheating on his first wife, telling tasteless and offensive jokes about women enjoying rape or calling seventeen year old girls ugly, calling his wife a c-nt in public, etc. this is unacceptable, inappropriate, and disturbing behavior for anyone and ESPECIALLY a presidential candidate.

Posted by: ejohn38 | August 19, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

What most people seem to be missing is that abortion is a divisive issue. Most people are passionate on either side. McCain says he’s on the side of pro-life but if the numbers work out right he will put a pro-choice person one step from the presidency. You are either pro-life or pro-choice; there is not a lot of middle ground here. John McCain seems to have a position that what ever gets him elected is good for him. A political football if you will. Hmmm. You would think that would matter to the so called conservatives. On most issues they are very hard. McCain is either lying to the conservatives saying he’s pro-life or he’s lying to the moderates and the left saying he’s considering a pro-choice running mate. Either way John McCain is a liar. I’m pretty sure George Bush and even Bill Clinton waited until they were in the White House before they started lying to the American people.

Posted by: dan | August 19, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

nicole obama is just going to turn right around and go into afganistan dont you know that and that means you have to go into pakistan too to get osama he has threatened to go into pakistan even if they say no what do you think that will cause think biblw says quick to listen and slow to speak

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

dan no they didnt obama is doing the same

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

dan no they didnt obama is doing the same

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

Have any of YOU SEEN A BABY that has SURVIVED A (PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION) ITS TERRIBLE !!!
It would do those of You MORALIST a SERVICE to SEE what that LOOKS LIKE 1ST HAND AN SEE THE DAMAGE DONE in order to UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS TO BE DONE.
OBAMA DID NOT MAKE THESE LAWS….
NOTE: THESE LAWS & MEDICAL PRACTICES HAVE BEEN LEGALIZED FOR (DECADES) AND BUSH IN HIS (8 YEARS) WAS A (PRO-CHOICE PRESIDENT)
BUSH, CHENEY, RICE AND THE MORAL MAJORITY RING WING REPUBLICAN SENATE & CONGRESS, DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING REAGDRING ABORTION, NOTHING TO RID THE USA OF THESE LEGAL MEDICAL PRACTICES AND NEITHER DID JOHN “SEMI-SENILE” MCCAIN… FOR 25 YEARS !!!
NOW HE’S PRO-LIFE…
WHEN HE’S BEEN PRO CHOICE OR DEAD AIR SILENT ON THE ABORTION ISSUE !!!
BIG NOTE: DURING HIS 25 YEARS AS A SENATOR, WHAT DID JOHN MCCAIN AND HIS MORAL PRESENCE DO ON THE ABORTION FRONT, TO STOP, CHANGE OR ERADICATE THESE LAWS AND LEGAL MEDICAL PRACTICES….
ANS: NOT A DAMN THING, THAT MEANS MCCAIN, HIS SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT BUSH JR, A (PRO-CHOICE PRESIDENT) AT THAT,
MCCAIN AN HIS MAJORITY MORAL MAJORITY, RIGHT WING SENATE & CONGRESS, DID (ABSOLUTELY NOTHING) TO ERADICATE THESE LAWS, DURING A TIME THAT THEY IN FACT HAD CONTROL…
AS WELL AS NIXON, CARTER, RONALD REAGAN AND BUSH SR, BILL CLINTON….NOTHING AT ALL !!
THE SO CALLED RIGHT WINGERS DID NOTHING, THAT MEANS THEY AGREED WITH THE LAW OF THE LAND AND ROE VS. WADE…
SIMPLE AN PLAIN, WITH NOWHERE TO RUN AND HIDE AND NO EXCUSES….PERIOD
GOTCHA !!!

Posted by: o. | August 19, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

HawkTheSlayer – You nailed it!! It reminds me of a thing that went around e-mail several years ago. I found a copy in my saved files:
Putting tax cuts in terms everyone can understand:
Suppose that everyday, 10 men go out to dinner.
The bill for all 10 comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:
Man 1 would pay $0
Man 2 would pay $0
Man 3 would pay $0
Man 4 would pay $0
Man 5 would pay $1
Man 6 would pay $3
Man 7 would pay $7
Man 8 would pay $12
Man 9 would pay $18
Man 10 would pay $59 (the richest)
So that’s what they decided to do.
The 10 men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day the
owner threw them a curve.
“Since you are all such good customers”, he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20″.
So now the dinner for the 10 men only cost $80.
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.
So the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat free.
But what about the other six, the paying
customers? How could they divvy up the $20 windfall so that everyone would
get his “fair share”?
The six men realized that $20 divided by 6 is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then Man
5 and Man 6 would now end up being PAID to eat their meal.
The restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly the same percentage as they
were paying, so he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so:
Man 5 now paid $0 instead of $1 (100%
savings)
Man 6 now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%
savings)
Man 7 now paid $5 instead of $7 (28%
savings)
Man 8 now paid $9 instead of $12 (25%
savings)
Man 9 now paid $14 instead of$18 (22%
savings)
Man 10 now paid $49 instead of $59 (16%
savings)
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four
continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men
began to compare their savings.
“I only got a dollar out of the $20″, declared Man 6. He pointed to Man 10, “but he got $10!!”"
Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed Man 5. “I only saved a dollar too.
It’s unfair that he got TEN TIMES more than me!!!”
“That’s true!!” shouted Man 7. “Why should he get $10 back when I only got $2? The WEALTHY get all the breaks!!!”
“Wait a minute, yelled the first four men in unison. “We didn’t get anything at all!!. The system exploits the
poor!!!!”
The nine men surrounded Man 10 and beat him up.The next night, Man 10 did not show up for dinner, so the nine sat
>down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between
all of them for even half of the bill!!!
And that, boys and girls, journalists and college
professors, is how our tax system works. They people who pay the
highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too
much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at
the table anymore.
There are lots of good restaurants elsewhere.”

Posted by: ellsbells930 | August 19, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

luke poe
thats were we should have gon in the 1st place if we were going to declare war..Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11..I think everyone knows how horrible Saddam Hussein was but should 4000 americans have lost there lives in vain.

Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Please do not pick anyone else but ROMNEY…We will lose the election if you choose otherwise

Posted by: Steven | August 19, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

Yo o I have seen the nasty abortions and you no that child wouldnt have been that way if the mother would have waited and given it up what is a little more time hence the word partial birth that is such a lazy liberal way of birth control so in short if they wouldnt have done the abortion in the first place there would be no death oh again how can there be a death if it wasnt alive so again my point abortion is murdering a child it is killing life because how could it die if it wasnt born alive and then they finished it off sick dogs killing it man

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

Yo o I have seen the nasty abortions and you no that child wouldnt have been that way if the mother would have waited and given it up what is a little more time hence the word partial birth that is such a lazy liberal way of birth control so in short if they wouldnt have done the abortion in the first place there would be no death oh again how can there be a death if it wasnt alive so again my point abortion is murdering a child it is killing life because how could it die if it wasnt born alive and then they finished it off sick dogs killing it man

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

Nicole – that is where you and a lot of people don’t understand the war in Iraq. It wasn’t just about 9/11. It is about ALL terrorists – not just the perpetrators of 9/11. No one has lost their lives in vain in Iraq. Saddam is gone and the Iraqis are well on their way to democracy.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | August 19, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

o.–i would venture to say that MOST people who hold pro-choice views, still oppose late-term or partial-birth abortions. contrary to popular belief, pro-choice is not synonymous with “pro-abortion”. i do believe that many times when women choose to have an abortion, it is the result ultimately, of irresponsible behavior. there are, of course, exceptions including rape, failure of their chose birth control method, or potential health risks posed by carrying a pregnancy to term. however, it is true that many women end up making the choice to terminate a pregnancy because they cannot financially, psychologically, or emotionally handle the implications of a pregnancy and having a child, factors that they SHOULD have taken into account much earlier. HOWEVER, banning abortion is not the answer. a ban on abortion will result in two things: many women seeking dangerous and illegal operations, which will result in many more of them suffering serious emotional and physical injury, and even death. since the legalization of abortion, the number of women who have died from the procedure has dropped dramatically. and secondly, the number of unintended pregnancies will not drop if abortion is illegal, and therefore the number of unwanted babies will rise. if you think that receiving an abortion is something to be ashamed of, don’t doubt that there are many pro-choice activists that agree with you. however, making the procedure less legally accessible will not solve anyone’s problems.

Posted by: ejohn38 | August 19, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

Nicole it will be in vain if we pull out now you have to know that not to mention if we do we will have to go back and it would be alot bloodier that is something to think about did bush miss handle it yes but it is within grasp to have a stable nation there that is what should be done but you still skated around the fact obama is going to go into afganistan so money will be going there and he threatened to invade pakistan but you feel it is okay for him to do that a soveirn nation it isnt going to stop he is going to do the same and make iraq fail i cant beleive you would vote for him if you are even voting

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

Nicole it will be in vain if we pull out now you have to know that not to mention if we do we will have to go back and it would be alot bloodier that is something to think about did bush miss handle it yes but it is within grasp to have a stable nation there that is what should be done but you still skated around the fact obama is going to go into afganistan so money will be going there and he threatened to invade pakistan but you feel it is okay for him to do that a soveirn nation it isnt going to stop he is going to do the same and make iraq fail i cant beleive you would vote for him if you are even voting

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

I don’t doubt that Iraq is better off now that Saddam is no longer in power, but the truth is Americans were lied to by the Bush admin. and McCain aided in that lie.
Furthermore, if we don’t have a president who can fix this economy or we won’t be able to fund this war. McCain have yet to explain how he is going to do this. He has stated is lack of knowledge with the economoy.

Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

Why do men have any right to tell a woman what to do with THEIR body. They provide a little speck and think they can dtermine the rights of women. If men would have been the ones to be the child bearer, abortion would have been legal hundreds of years ago.

Posted by: Kris | August 19, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

JR: Did you mean that Lieberman would be the first JEWISH Senator to enter the VP spot? An “Israeli” is someone who resides in Israel.

Posted by: Jen | August 19, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

E.John & Luke Poe….
All that I’m saying is…
George W. Bush, Cheney, Rice, Their Majority Moral Right had the Congress and Senate Via a Majority and Especially John “Semi-Senile” McCain have Done NOTHING on the Abortion Front…
In 7 1/2 Years and All Past Presidents & Past Years, Regardless of Political Persuasion.
Yet Some of these Clowns are Touting John McCain as if he is a Pro-lifer, when he’s been a Do Nothing or Keep Quiet on Abortion Issues Senator.
Mccain is a Fake, is all that I’m Saying an Mccain will do Anything and Say Anything, to Win the White House…Period
Respecet to Both of You Guys

Posted by: o. | August 19, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Yes, we all remember “Loserman” very well. Lieberman and Tom Ridge are the absolute worst picks McCain could possibly make. Tom Ridge has no soul – he is the epitomy of an “empty suit”. The only sensible choice is Mitt Romney.

Posted by: Bill | August 19, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

ejohn there are some cases where it should be acceptable for women to hve them i agree totally rape incest molestation endangerment of the mother other than that i have no sympathy for someone who chooses to dispose of a life because it is inconvient for them to have this child i dont beleive that abortion is ethically right for a doctor to preform except under the above stated conditions they say it is their body but what they have inside of them isnt all theirs and the child has rights too and if the it is their body has merit then why is it that the government can say you have not the right to ingest substances they deem illegal they say it is unlawful why because they think they own you you see so to me the it is their body arguement doesnt hold water with me this is bosy not that i use drugs but if i did it is my bosy wont fly so i cansee how women hollar that when what they have isnt even all theirs the are just the package deliverer may sound crude but is true abortions shouls be illegal with circumstances

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

ejohn there are some cases where it should be acceptable for women to hve them i agree totally rape incest molestation endangerment of the mother other than that i have no sympathy for someone who chooses to dispose of a life because it is inconvient for them to have this child i dont beleive that abortion is ethically right for a doctor to preform except under the above stated conditions they say it is their body but what they have inside of them isnt all theirs and the child has rights too and if the it is their body has merit then why is it that the government can say you have not the right to ingest substances they deem illegal they say it is unlawful why because they think they own you you see so to me the it is their body arguement doesnt hold water with me this is bosy not that i use drugs but if i did it is my bosy wont fly so i cansee how women hollar that when what they have isnt even all theirs the are just the package deliverer may sound crude but is true abortions shouls be illegal with circumstances

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

nicole obama plan is to tax the crap out of us sorry but that is not a plan

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

just to straighten out the story nicole mc cain never had anything to do with the intelligence on iraq he voted for the war he didnt gather intelligence

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

just to straighten out the story nicole mc cain never had anything to do with the intelligence on iraq he voted for the war he didnt gather intelligence

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

Joe Lieberman: Israel 1st and America 2nd, as it relates to getting in the White House, to Strengthen his Agenda….
Whatever Joe’s Political Agenda may be ?
An if that does happen, John McCain is just a Stepping Stone…
Watch something happens to Ole Man McCain during his 1st 2-3 Years and Joe Lieberman Becomes President.
Iran will be Bombed, Russia and China will Nuclear Strike us and All Hell will be Unleashed upon the the rest of the Survivors.
Joe Lieberman, Thinks more of his Trollish, Ghoulish Looking Self, than he should….
But that has’nt Stopped his Crazed Ambitions yet …has it
Lieberman wants the White House and the Presidency, Not the Vice Presidency, thats just an Avenue to the Presidency…
What Joe Lieberman Truly Wants,is to be President and WOE the Day that Happens !!!

Posted by: o. | August 19, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

respect o i just agree to disagree on certain things that is like nobody agrees on everything that is what gives this world flavor i guess

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

luke poe – who cares? I don’t give a goddamn about Iraq and those ungrateful Iraqi f–ckers and I never have or will. We’ve got big problems here at home and the damn fool Republicans are wasting $10 million EVERY DAY on their stupid, pointless war. If the Iraqis wanted freedom and democracy, they should have taken responsibility and risen up and taken it for themselves. How much longer are we going to waste our time, money, energy and young men on ungrateful third world sh–tholes like Iraq while we let our own country go to hell? No way! No more! I am fed up and do not care about Iraq.

Posted by: anne c. | August 19, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

o aere you writing fiction or calling lieberman the anti ?

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

I think they should make abortion retroactive so that all these pro-abortionists could be lined up and releived of their souls. We could wave around banners that say “It’s MY country…” I suppose we could justify genocide in other countries too… I mean it’s their “right” and all….

Posted by: theregoesthecountry | August 19, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

luke poe – you’re full of crap on Obama’s tax plan. But don’t let that get in the way of your lies and smears.

Posted by: killminster | August 19, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

luke poe
You’re right. It’s not a plan. And it’s not Obama’s plan. But it is still the knee-jerk attack of most conservatives,as if saying it will make it true.

Posted by: jock59801 | August 19, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

theregoesthecountry – my sister was raped when she was in college. She got pregnant and chose to have an abortion. Now she’s in her 30s and has two children that she loves and planned for. Can you honestly tell me that she should have ruined her life by carrying her rapist’s child to term? Who the hell are YOU to judge anybody unless you’ve walked in their shoes? You anti-abortion nuts need to stop forcing your religious beliefs on the rest of us. If you really cared about freedom you would leave other people alone.

Posted by: mykonos | August 19, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

well ann get ready for more because obama is going to do the same damn thing in afganistan and if he goes into pakistan like he has threatened that will start some more crap we have lot of problems here one of them is tax and spend liberal wanting to take my hard earned money and give it to lazy ass welfare recipients so they can get some more free stuff they deserve bull)(*&

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

If the bloodshed of the Civil War was this nation’s pricetag for the scourge of slavery… what will be the cost (besides the mental and emotional anguish of the mothers) for the slaughter of MILLIONS of unborn? The silent scream will one day be vicariously heard…

Posted by: theregoesthecountry | August 19, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

anne c. – I agree with you. Iraq is pointless and was based on a lie. Bush and all his cronies belong in jail and anyone who voted for them ought to be deeply ashamed of themselves.

Posted by: how's your news? | August 19, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

I would not want to go back to Saddleback Church if I were McCain if he picks a pro-choice VP running mate!!

Posted by: Fetus and Me | August 19, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

luke poe – good. Afghanistan is where the war on terror should have been fought all along. I’m not against taking out Al Queda – I’m against damnfool “Presidents” who fight the wrong war in the wrong place and waste trillions of dollars in the process. Where is the damn accountability????

Posted by: anne c. | August 19, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

Yes luke poe he didn’t have anything to do with the intelligence but he made the decision to vote for the war. McCain is going to give big tax breaks to big companies, especially oil companies who already have us upside down shaling the change out of our pockets.

Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

theregoesthecountry – who cares? there are too many damn people on the planet anyway. There should be MORE abortions, not less. The planet won’t be able to sustain our population in another few decades and the resulting population crash is going to make your silly whining about the abortion “holocaust” look like a walk in the park if we don’t learn to curb our population growth.

Posted by: condor | August 19, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

kil and jock that is his plan i look and listen and check all of it out and he just wants to tax the S )(* out of us so i know what i am talking about i read the books and listen to both of them and it is the obama plan tax and spend liberal agenda leave my money alone why should i have to pay for someones 17 freaking kids because they are too lazy to work and want the free stuff pea on them

Posted by: luke poe | August 19, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

the problem is luke poe, once you start making stipulations and creating conditions like that, it can get a little blurry. for example, suppose a woman gets raped and several weeks later discovers she’s pregnant. should she be allowed to have an abortion? some people who consider themselves “pro-life” would say that in that situation it is permissible to do so. however, who’s to say whose sperm created that fetus? how do we know it’s resulting from the rape? what if she had consensual, unprotected sex with another man on the same day as the rape took place? or suppose a woman has diabetes or something along those lines and she gets pregnant, intentionally or not, and realizes after discovering she’s pregnant that carrying the pregnancy to term could potentially pose a health risk. could she terminate the pregnancy? how could someone determine how probable or how serious a potential health risk has to be in order to justify an abortion? do you see at all? once you start saying “it’s okay in some situations, but not in others”, things start to get mighty complicated. i personally see it as a very divisive issue. it’s mildly regrettable, but i really think someone has to be either all pro-choice or all pro-life. it just gets too hairy trying to clear a middle ground. and for that reason, i’m pro-choice. whether i find it irresponsible to receive an abortion or not, i don’t think making it illegal will do anyone any good.

Posted by: ejohn38 | August 19, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

thanks, how’s your news? – and I agree with you, too. At the very least Bush and his gang should be impeached. Every last one of them is a war criminal and anyone who says different is a fool or a liar.

Posted by: anne c. | August 19, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

luke poe – guess what. McCain is going to tax the hell out of us, too. Whoever is elected is going to have to tax the hell out of us to pay for Bush’s war debt. That’s the ugly truth that neither candidate is willing to admit. But we owe China and our other creditors over $3 trillion dollars and we’re going to have to start paying that back very soon. If you support this war then it’s time you stop whining about taxes and face the consequences of Bush’s disasterous policies.

Posted by: American Patriot | August 20, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/pastor-hagee-the-antichri_b_104608.html
On March 16, 2003, on the eve of the United States’ invasion of Iraq, Pastor John Hagee took to the pulpit to warn of the coming Antichrist.
In his sermon, “The Final Dictator,” Hagee described the Antichrist as a seductive figure with “fierce features.” He will be “a Blasphemer and a Homosexual,” the Pastor announced.
Then, Hagee boomed, “There’s a phrase in Scripture used solely to identify the Jewish people. It suggests that this man [the Anti-Christ] is at least going to be Partially Jewish, as was Adolph Hitler, as was Karl Marx.”
NOTE: This “Fierce” Gay Jew, according to Hagee, would “Slaughter One-Third of the Earth’s Population” and “Make Adolph Hitler look like a Choirboy.”
Hear Pastor Hagee’s latest Judeophobic, anti-gay rant in this video, created by Bruce Wilson of Talk2Action.org
Exposed here for the first time, Hagee’s comments identifying the Antichrist as a partly Jewish Homosexual arrive in the wake of a furor the pastor provoked by describing the Holocaust as an act of God.
Hagee’s chilling sermon about the Holocaust prompted Sen. John McCain to reject the Preacher’s Support, an unexpected turnabout after McCain spent over a year soliciting his endorsement.
Days after McCain’s rejection, I reported that a key McCain ally, Sen. Joseph Lieberman, planned to deliver the keynote speech at Hagee’s upcoming Christians United For Israel (CUFI) summit. As the story exploded into the mainstream press, pressure mounted on Lieberman to withdraw.
But Lieberman stayed the course, declaring in a prepared statement, “Pastor Hagee has devoted much of his life to fighting anti-Semitism and building bridges between Christians and Jews…
I will go to the CUFI Summit in July and speak to the people who have come to Washington from all over our country to express their support of America and Israel, based on our shared eternal values and our shared contemporary challenges in the war against terrorism.”

Posted by: o. | August 20, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

The fact that Bush, Cheney, Rove and the rest of the croonies are getting away with what they have done is ludacris. Bush is a disgrace, I hope McCain, if elected, will do a much better job than Bush. Again I have alot of doubts!

Posted by: Nicole | August 20, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

Anne it is not good! You are complaining of the trillions of dollars spent it will be the same thing in afganistan. When this no nothing liberal messes with pakistan it all will destablize I dont want to have to pay for more than I already do. Good you say so spend more and more trilions just as long as it is obama wasting it I see I can tell you what will happen will when obama tries to tax the oilers they will just pass it on to use in prices and /or they will just cut production which will drive prices higher that is not my philosophy there that is economist pudits who know what will happen they have the money they control the money I dont want big goverment running my life anymore than they already do The thing to do is give them incentatives to produce clean energy alternatives so they invest that money instead of taking and heading for high ground get them to spend it on energy uses not on taxes so obama can give it to his damn programs energy will make or break this country and it will be the private sector that has to step up and taxing them isnt going to help no one except obama big government programs which I wouldnt see any money from anyway read aboutthese things and not just in obamas blogs

Posted by: luke poe | August 20, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

Anne it is not good! You are complaining of the trillions of dollars spent it will be the same thing in afganistan. When this no nothing liberal messes with pakistan it all will destablize I dont want to have to pay for more than I already do. Good you say so spend more and more trilions just as long as it is obama wasting it I see I can tell you what will happen will when obama tries to tax the oilers they will just pass it on to use in prices and /or they will just cut production which will drive prices higher that is not my philosophy there that is economist pudits who know what will happen they have the money they control the money I dont want big goverment running my life anymore than they already do The thing to do is give them incentatives to produce clean energy alternatives so they invest that money instead of taking and heading for high ground get them to spend it on energy uses not on taxes so obama can give it to his damn programs energy will make or break this country and it will be the private sector that has to step up and taxing them isnt going to help no one except obama big government programs which I wouldnt see any money from anyway read aboutthese things and not just in obamas blogs

Posted by: luke poe | August 20, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

Its better to spend the trillions where its needed versus where its not for you and your groonies own personal gain, because what benefit did americans get.

Posted by: Nicole | August 20, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Mr Patriot I know who we owe and I know who is going to tax us and who is going to tax the hell out of us I am not whining just responding to individuals propaganda they spread about nobama I am very well informed on it thank you very much I will however complain if I so desire voting gives me the right I dont want to pay for some liberals welfare plan so some a hole dont have to work there is a right way and wrong way to get us out of it and making bigger government isnt it It getting spending under control and giving us working class people fair shake at it no taxing me for new government bungled programs

Posted by: luke poe | August 20, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

luke poe – no, kid, you have no clue. You’re just repeating a bunch of anti-Obama propaganda. You actually have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to taxes. All your claims aren’t fooling anybody.
Also, you need to belay that “big goverment” nonsense because Republicans have grown the government even more than the Dems have.

Posted by: American Patriot | August 20, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

luke poe – oh give it up. You know Bush invaded the wrong country and you need to just admit it. Frankly, with Musharraf’s resignation we need to be prepared for Pakistan to turn against us anyway – Obama is right, we need to stop coddling a terrorist state and deal with the fact that Pakistan’s intelligence service has been sponsoring the Taliban for years. So what if they have nukes – so did the Soviets and we weren’t scared of them. Guess what – we have nukes, too, and if Pakistan does anything stupid we will level their pissant country and leave a smoking ruin. You need to stop being such a coward.

Posted by: anne c. | August 20, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

luke poe: do you seriously think McSame will “get spending under control”? The Republicans are even bigger spenders than the Dems – and what’s worse, they borrow the money from foreign governments. You need to wake up and realize that McCain is lying to you – he will have no choice but to raise taxes, no matter what he says during the election. Just like when George HW Bush told the nation to “read my lips.” At least Obama is honest.

Posted by: lisa montefiore | August 20, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

luke poe, if we have a president who admittedly does not know how to make the economy better and have people around him that are only concerned with making the rich richer and putting more and more money in their own pockets, what will happen to the economy, people that want to work wont be able to. More and more jobs will be out sourced to foreign countries for cheap labor and americans will not be able to afford a car let alone gas, instead of a recession we will be in a depression.

Posted by: Nicole | August 20, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

Face it folks… we are witnessing the decline of western civilization… bring your burka…

Posted by: Bubby | August 20, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

I hope that the homosexual community enjoys living in an Islamic theocracy after destroying the best shot at freedom that they had…

Posted by: Bubby | August 20, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

O I dont see the blurry I was clear in what I had said before rape incest molestation and risk factors. The women would potentially who may have had one or more men that could be the hypothetical father in the scenerio would or could be tested. The doctor when testing with the rape kit would know that there were two different types of semen from labs tests results unless you are going to say she didnt get a rape test (not to mention she could get a shot afterwards that is from the rape that would negate any semen before the egg fertilized) she knows who she was with with permission and the other there are ways to test to see who is and who isnt it boils to rape that leaves room for error you say but she was raped that is the clear cut decision for leagal abortion I dont see gray if she chooses she could tell the other man about it and get a test if she felt morally obligated The other is easy the doctor can determine if she is capable or if the risk is to great he could tell her what the risk factors are then she has legal option however most doctors will tell then prior to it if they are planning a pregnancy but if not then the legal abortion would be health risk and the doctor who has studied medicine for years and years could make that dtermination and even get second and third opinion if neccessary that is clear to me

Posted by: luke poe | August 20, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

No one ever seems to mention the possibility that maybe… just maybe… the later joy found in a child who was the product of a rape could actually end up being the one positive facet to an otherwise horrible forever life scar

Posted by: theregoesthecountry | August 20, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

i THINK THERE SHOULD BE LIMIT PUT ON THE AMOUNT OF ABORTIONS A WOMAN CAN HAVE BECAUSE I KNOW WOMEN WHO HAVE HAD MULTIPLE ABORTIONS AND IT MAKES ME ANGRY THAT SOME WOMEN WOULD DO THIS, ABORTION IS NOT BIRTH CONTROL!

Posted by: Nicole | August 20, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

I don’t vote and i’m not into politics. I don’t see why people are so into this stuff. reality shows on vh1 is what rulz

Posted by: john william III | August 20, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am

Listen PatriotI am not a kid I know what the f i am talkin about it is not propaganda it is common sense that you lack and the dems have been the biggest spenders over the history of this country period i know what I talking about you need to learn macro amd micro economics and a liitle about the tax code boy.

Posted by: luke poe | August 20, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

THEREGOESTHECOUNTRY
WHO ARE YOU OR WHO AM I TO TELL A WOMEN SHE MAY FIND JOY IN CARRYING AND RAISING A CHILD THAT WAS CONCEIVED BY FORCE, VIOLENCE, EVIL!

Posted by: Nicole | August 20, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

I don’t vote and i’m not into politics. I don’t see why people are so into this stuff. reality shows on vh1 is what rulz

Posted by: john willamlll | August 20, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

Anne you know nothing about war I have holes in me from a war that was waged on bad intelligence coward you think nuking is the answer you are and idiot and should have been aborted dems are tax spend that is the way it is I dont care what you say you sit under a blanket of freedom provided for you by others shut up little girl they are ousting him because bhutto party won you stooge we want him out to loser why do you think we made them let bhutto came back tard go swim with the sharks you children alway try to make something personal it is politics and OBAMA IS A BIG DAMN LIAR

Posted by: luke poe | August 20, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

NICOLE AT LEAST YOU HAVE REMAINED CIVIL THE REST WHO TALK CRAP CAN GO TO HELL READ WHAT WAS WROTE i SAID I BELEIVE THAT THERE ARE SITUTAIONS THAT WARRANT LEGAL ABORTION AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS FUNNY MOST OF YOU THINK I AM A FN REPUBLICAN YOU CANT EVEN SEE I AM AN INDEPENDENT WHAT EVER

Posted by: luke poe | August 20, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

NICOLE AT LEAST YOU HAVE REMAINED CIVIL THE REST WHO TALK CRAP CAN GO TO HELL READ WHAT WAS WROTE i SAID I BELEIVE THAT THERE ARE SITUTAIONS THAT WARRANT LEGAL ABORTION AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS FUNNY MOST OF YOU THINK I AM A FN REPUBLICAN YOU CANT EVEN SEE I AM AN INDEPENDENT WHAT EVER

Posted by: luke poe | August 20, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

JESUS CHRIST FOR PRESIDENT

Posted by: luke poe | August 20, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

YOU KNOW IF NOBAMA TAKES HILLARY FOR VP HE MIGHT WIN HE STEADY LOSING GROUND AS THE ELECTION GROWS CLOSE IN A YEAR IN WHICH HE SHOULD BE RUNNING AWAY WITH IT DO YOU EVER ASK WHY

Posted by: luke poe | August 20, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

YOU KNOW IF NOBAMA TAKES HILLARY FOR VP HE MIGHT WIN HE STEADY LOSING GROUND AS THE ELECTION GROWS CLOSE IN A YEAR IN WHICH HE SHOULD BE RUNNING AWAY WITH IT DO YOU EVER ASK WHY

Posted by: luke poe | August 20, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

Nicole…
Does that make the child evil?
…And who are you or I to tell them that they could not find said joy at some point in time…. or for that matter joy in knowing that their painful memory was able to bring joy to an infertile couple somewhere… rather than wreaking havoc in their own soul for the rest of their life… deep down knowing that they murdered their own flesh and blood.

Posted by: theregoesthecountry | August 20, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

If he chooses a pro choice candidate for his VP then what is the difference between him and Obama? McCain’s pro-life stand is the main reason that I planned to vote for him but if he’s thinking of choosing a pro-choice candidate for his running mate is he really pro-life? Can we trust him to vote pro-life if he’s elected? The fact that he’s even considering a pro-choice candidate for his running mate makes me not trust him! I don’t know who I’m going to vote for now!

Posted by: carlyonsue | August 20, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

You’ve had one of the Worst, if not the Worst in American History.
The Lowwering of the Dollar Bill.
Massive Billion Dollar Debts to China.
Two 20 Billion Dollar Plus wars per month.
The Largest Forerclosures in the history of the USA.
The Biggest Big Spending Administrations in History.
High Taxes !!!
Largest Illegal Immigration in History by One Race.
High unemployment.
Outsourcing of American Jobs to Canada,Mexico,India and China.
No Problem….
As long as its Not Obama, Some of you People are Sick…
You have a Semi-Senile Ole Man and a Young Go getter and some you act as if McCain is a Great Man…
He’s Not, You’re just Desperate not to have an Afro-American as President of the USA an thats Sad.
I know Obama will Win, in spite of all the Negatives

Posted by: o. | August 20, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

Even if McCain picks a pro-life running mate at this point. He’s still a liar.
He can’t be trusted. He only SAYS he’s against abortion to get the vote from the religious right and they are too dumb to see it, or maybe they don’t really care either. Maybe it’s just a feel good cause for them. A chance to march together in front of clinics and show the world how self righteous they are.

Posted by: dan | August 20, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

luke poe – well lets see. Bush has run up a bigger deficit in the last 7 1/2 years than any President in the history of the United States. SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR IT!! Or maybe you just think China is going to forgive the debt as a gift. LOL

Posted by: dan | August 20, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

McCain’s Broken Classics…..
#1 Hit: I told You “The Surge Would Work”
Note: As Though McCain Originated “The Surge” When in Fact “The Surge” is General McFarland’s Military Strategy and it did not happen at Anbar, “The Surge” happened in (Bagdad) The Bloody Anbar Awakening Happened Almost a Year Before “The Surge” and General Petraeus was Not in Iraq, During “The Anbar Awakening” or “The Surge”…
The Anbar Awakening: Is the Crucial Turning Point in the Iraq War and without it, The Surge would still be at Day One and the Casualties Would still be Prevalent. Yet Semi-Senile John McCain has Projected himself as the Creater of “The Surge”, as though, Mccain Concieved, Created and his “Surge Strategy” was Implemented by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the President, based on Mccain’s “Military Experience” when all He did was Sign on a Non-Partisan BandWagon to send an Additional 20,000 Troops….
Thats All McCain Did.
McCain Hit #2: “I know how to Win Wars”
Oh Really John ? Are you Counting Viet Nam as a WIN for America ? You were Locked Up and being Tortured Day & Night, Remember ? John, Name One Military Strategy that you had Concieved, Created and had Implemented by the President & his Joint Chiefs of Staff…
Please and Don’t Mention “The Surge” I just Squashed that LIE
McCain Hit #3: “No Timetable for Withdrawal, Come Home in Victory”
What is a Victory to You John McCain ? The President of Iraq wants us OUT, The President of the USA is setting a “Time Horizon” and its been said, the Time Frame is (2010) Yet, We should Leave in Victory, Not Enough Dead Bodies, for you John ??
—————————————
John McCain Hit #4: “The 4 1/2 Year Military Strategy Failed, Because it was a Poorly Planned & Poorly Executed”
McCain is Condemning Joint Chiefs Of Staff, The President, The Vice President, Himself, The Senators & Congressmen and Women who Voted on all the Military Strategies, leading up, to the “Surge” and Above all else the US Military Performed their Jobs Incompetently, Thats Exactly what he’s saying…
Yet McCain Double Talks and Calls the U.S Military Honorable, Brave and Corageous..McCain has to Open his EYES WIDE and Accept that he was a Major Force in Voting 95% of the Time on the Iraq War and All Bush Military, Foreign and Domestic Policies….Fact

Posted by: o. | August 20, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

Bush said Iraq would pay for the war with money from oil. Hmmm. Iraq just made a 70B windfall due to high oil prices. They are buying bombs and guns from Cheney’s friends but how much money is going back into the American treasury? I’m betting NONE.

Posted by: dan | August 20, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

I think McCain’s dilemma is he can’t find another Republican that wants to run with him. Most true Republicans are slipping to the background hoping not to get picked. LOL

Posted by: dan | August 20, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

o. – here’s another fact; men and women CURRENTLY in the military are giving money to the Obama campaign 6 to 1 over McCain. The people doing the fighting want a change in leadership.

Posted by: dan | August 20, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am

That’s it John please pick Tom Ridge. First of all how good will it look to align yourself with another Bush cronie? Smart move! And they say you’re Presidential material because you make such good informed choices etc etc….
Second he will not deliver you PA because the people of this state know what a loser he is. I can’t wait to hear Tom Ridge tell the world what a wonderful job he did here in PA. How he left us in such great shape financially. Then the truth will come out that you never fixed a road and ran the infrastructure of the state into the dirt simply to float your own boat that you were so fiscally conservative.
Tom Ridge is just another example of Bush lite and if John McCain picks him to be his running mate it just solidifies that we’re in for more of the McSame…..

Posted by: dk | August 20, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am

MCBush is media celebrity, has been the media’s favorite politician. Even conservatives have long acknowledged that McCain enjoys a special place in the hearts of the Washington press corps.
Before “Mr. Straight-Talk” whips himself into a moral frenzy about sticking with positions, he needs to examine a few of his own “principled” flip-flops listed below:
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS
THEN: Running for president in 1999, McCain was opposed to repealing Roe v. Wade. He said, “Certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.” (San Francisco Chronicle, 6/19/2008)
NOW: McCain’s website says, “John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench.” Additionally, on several occasions, McCain has said himself, “I do not support Roe v. Wade. It should be overturned.” (MSNBC, 2/18/2007)
TAX CUTS
THEN: In 2001, McCain opposed and voted against Bush’s tax cuts, saying, “I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle class Americans who most need tax relief.” (The New York Times, 3/3/2008)
THEN: McCain opposed Bush’s additional tax cuts in 2003, because he argued the cost of the Iraq War was not yet known. (The New York Times, 3/3/2008)
NOW: In 2006, McCain voted to make these tax cuts permanent. In a 2008 presidential debate, he said, “We need to make the Bush tax cuts permanent, which I voted for twice to do so.” (CNN, 1/30/2008)
OFFSHORE DRILLING
THEN: During the 2000 Presidential campaign, McCain favored the moratorium on offshore drilling, promising to “never lose sight of the fundamental principle that federal land management decisions affecting local communities must be made in cooperation with the Americans who call those communities home.” (Sustainable Energy Coalition, 1/18/2000)
NOW: In June 2008, McCain called for an end to these federal bans, saying, “It is time [...] to lift these restrictions and to put our own reserves to use.” (CNN, 6/17/2008)

Posted by: kevin | August 20, 2008, 4:47 am 4:47 am

Does it really matter? Since he’s the GOP candidate then I think everybody should just get over it, if he’s not the perfect candidate for EVERY Republican. I’ve been a little disgusted that the preachers have been against him because he’s not conservative enough, yada yada… I’m very conservative, just as much as those mouthy preachers: but I’ve got sense enough to see what’s the alternative. It’s not as if the abortion problem is close to being solved, in fact I don’t think it will be. Abortion is basically a stalemate so it’s probably a moot point. We’ve got other problems. I hope McCain chooses his VP based on leadership qualities rather than perceived “issues.”

Posted by: Annie | August 20, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am

I do not trust McCain. He changes sides too often, now is McCain pro choice?

Posted by: Joel | August 20, 2008, 5:38 am 5:38 am

McCain might as well choose Hillary…

Posted by: theregoesthecountry | August 20, 2008, 5:53 am 5:53 am

Joel – Just because he MAY pick a pro-choice running mate, doesn’t make him pro-choice. It just means that particular topic isn’t a litmus test. VP’s don’t have to be puppets of the President. They are permitted to have their own ideas.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | August 20, 2008, 6:20 am 6:20 am

I have to hand it to McCain. He’s going to own the energy issue.
He’s right: we need to drill.
But there’s something that really concerns me about this. Can we trust the Big Oil Companies to uphold their end of the bargain???
In other words, while we all want energy independence, we’re talking about having the oil companies *willingly* give up literally TRILLIONS of dollars in money over the next decade.
To understand how much money this is, consider the case of Tanzanite, a rare gem that is only mined in the African country of Tanzania. The Tanzanian government sold the rights to a Canadian interest for about $1 Million. They did it because even their own president only made about $2000 a year. It represented SO MUCH MONEY that it was worth it to them. Now, out of every $100 made, only $1 goes back to Tanzania. But they did it because of the fortune. It was worth it.
Are we faced with a similar conflict of interest with Big Oil? Will Big Oil actually allow this to happen? Or will they drill here, make us feel better, lessen this “price @ pump” leash we’re on, and create a new economic stimulus to rely on big vehicles again, and then jerk this leash once again?
Their profits are not tied to our well being. It’s important to understand that our destinies are NOT intertwined. It’s the greatest conflict of interest in history. The worse we do, the better for them. Would they willingly give up this much money? And even though these companies are technically “American”… Who really owns them? And would they care?
Somehow, I’m very skeptical. And very concerned. I think we’re being duped once again. And this time we’ll go willingly.

Posted by: John Higgins | August 20, 2008, 6:20 am 6:20 am

why do Obama supporters always want to rewrite the constitution ? Talks about a surrender of freedoms. McCains VP choice is exciting he might break the norm or go for someone to fire up his base. I hope ABC can get the scoop.

Posted by: ABCnewsrocks | August 20, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am

George W. Bush and John McCain have jointly chosen Mitt Romney to be the next Vice-President.

Posted by: TonyfromMinn | August 20, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am

He should go with Ridge if he can’t get Colin Powell. It will help shore up PA and provide another reason for the forgotten “middle of the road” voters to cast their ballot for him. Having said that, I won’t vote for McCain regardless of who he selects for VP. I’m not voting for Obama either. Let’s face it, these days the media decides who gets elected and I won’t be a part of electing either of these unfit individuals for President.

Posted by: mhhunt | August 20, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am

McCain should pick Colin Powell or Condoleezza Rice.

Posted by: b4uvote | August 20, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

If John McCain picks a pro lifer; then I will not vote this year. This is equivalent to a no vote to both candidates.

Posted by: Say it isnt soooooo | August 20, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

ooops. my bad. meant to say if he picks a pro abortion vp. I am for life. Death is only an option if the moms life is in danger.

Posted by: Say it isnt soooooo | August 20, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

O: Where in the world do you get your facts? That is all BS! My son is in the military and is getting ready to go to Afghanistan–he has already been to Iraq for a year. That is not what he has told me about the soldiers fighting with him. They are definitely Pro-Republican and Pro-McCain. So, I don’t buy into your lies for one minute.

Posted by: b4uvote | August 20, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

What a scary time in our history.With over 300,000 million people in our country, these two fumbling idiots are the best we can come up with to be President, we’re finished!!

Posted by: bombem | August 20, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

You know the really funny thing is even as bad as Obama is—-had the dems not voting in the republican primaries to force the least republican of the candidates (the maverick and moderate)—–none of the independents that the Republicans MUST HAVE this year would be jumping ship—-thanks demmie guys. Because McCain is a moderate (and I hope the far right religious are smart enough and mature enough to vote for the best candidate instead of hurting their own cause on everything by allowing obama in.) BTW demmies, because McCain is palable among so many especially given the alternative of Obama and his terrorist friends, he should be able to help other Republicans running. The choice is real ease–a moderate republican or far left socialist marxist whose best friends are terrorists.

Posted by: chattyway | August 20, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Heads up reuters has McCain 5 points ahead of Obama.
Poll shows McCain in 5-point lead over Obama
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Posted by: chattyway | August 20, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Posted by: b4uvote: “O Where in the world do you get your facts? That is all BS! My son is in the military and is getting ready to go to –he has already been to Iraq for a year. That is not what he has told me about the soldiers fighting with him. They are definitely Pro-Republican and Pro-McCain. So, I don’t buy into your lies for one minute”
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No Lies to Sell Or Give…Sorry
Google Sometimes, Oppose to Reacting to Facts.
Source: http://www.politico.com & http://www.the huffingtonpost.www.reuters.com http://www.npr.or & http://www.pbs.org
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JEESH !!
You are The LIAR !!
Your Son as You Claim Does Not Speak for the ENTIRE MILITARY Over There…
Also in International Military Bases…Sorry
Obama has Garnered More Financial Support…Period

Posted by: o. | August 20, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Rush and all the other Rightwing loonytune haters are mad that McCain would pick a abortions right supporter. I say Greeat! Pick one! Please!

Posted by: AJ | August 20, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Conservative rightwing Republicans are the worst Americans ever! They support all the hate and teachings of SATAN! No wonder Bush and Cheney are their role models!

Posted by: AJ | August 20, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Senator McCain needs to pick MN. Gov. Tim Pawlenty to be the V.P. not Lieberman or Ridge. That will definetely be the winning ticket!
McCain/Pawlenty08

Posted by: Debbie | August 20, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Senator McCain needs to pick MN. Gov. Tim Pawlenty for his V.P. not Lieberman or Ridge. That will definetely be the winning ticket!
McCain/Pawlenty08

Posted by: Debbie | August 20, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

I think Ridge is good guy with a sound record and would make a good VP—-there is more to life than just abortion expecially in this day and age.

Posted by: chattyway | August 20, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Debbie: If McCain picks Pawlenty he is puh-len-tee stupid. I am a Minnesotan and his guy hasn’t done a thing since taking office.

Posted by: Go Vikes | August 20, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

McCain is supposed to announce his running mate on August 29. The significance of that date is that it is McCain’s birthday. I wouldn’t be surprised if McCain chose a pro-baby running mate born on that same day that will pick up votes in demographics where McCain does not have support. If Senator McCain hopes to make Evansgenitals happy, he needs to go Pro-Baby on his running mate selection, big time. One that comes to mind is Michael Jackson. I did astrology star charts on both and August 29 is very auspicious for them both!!! This will be a wild card choice for sure if it plays out.

Posted by: Go Vikes | August 20, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Ridge remains the best choice of VP even the evangelicals won’t be happy—–but it is what it is. Why would we want a less qualified VP just because he says he is against abortion?

Posted by: chattyway | August 20, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

chattyway: If McCain fingers Ridge, Evansgenitals will be sweating the election for sure!!

Posted by: Go Vikes | August 20, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

John McCain graduated 894th in a class of 899 at the Naval Academy at Annapolis. This guy is as stupid as Bush.

Posted by: spoon2456 | August 20, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

John McCain graduated 894th in a class of 899 at the Naval Academy at Annapolis. He is not any smarter than Bush.

Posted by: spoon2456 | August 20, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

If McCain picks a pro-choice VP it only means that the so-called Republican values are a sham, exploiting those who have heart felt objections to abortion. It it is an insult to those people.

Posted by: Rich | August 20, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

spoon, atleast McCain past……and wasn’t snuck in. How exactly did obama get into Harvard when his grades in high school barely qualified him for a community college? And how exactly did obama pass his classes when his co-workers basically thought of him as an idiot and as a lawyer the idiot can’t even talk without a teleprompter?

Posted by: chattyway | August 20, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

McCain & Colin Powell:
Two HEROs are better than None !!!

Posted by: BASKER | August 20, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

Abortion is illegal in Jamaica. When I lived there, dawtas were killing their babies by jookin them with a stick or a hanger.

Posted by: Rasta Mom | August 20, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

As VP, I am almost certain that McCain will pick Senator Larry Craig. This way they will have the “All-Wife- Cheaters Ticket” and can appeal to the millions of wife cheaters across the country. What a wonderful example they can set for our kids! Yeah!

Posted by: Michael J | August 20, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

spoon2456 – McCain graduating 894 out of 899 at an Academy makes him more intelligent than 95% of the population in this country.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | August 20, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

10 things you should know about John McCain (but probably don’t):
John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has “evolved,” yet he’s continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1
According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain “will make Cheney look like Gandhi.”2
His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3
McCain opposes a woman’s right to choose. He said, “I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned.”4
The Children’s Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children’s health care bill last year, then defended Bush’s veto of the bill.5
He’s one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a “second job” and skip their vacations.6
Many of McCain’s fellow Republican senators say he’s too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: “The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He’s erratic. He’s hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.”7
McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8
McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his “spiritual guide,” Rod Parsley, believes America’s founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a “false religion.” McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God’s punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church “the Antichrist” and a “false cult.”9
He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10

Posted by: Dennis Fort Myers Fl | August 20, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Rush Limbaugh is as hard-boiled and cynical as they come. I don’t believe for one second that he cares about the issue of abortion. His remarks are 100% political.

Posted by: Wilson | August 20, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

I don’t want a dried up old guy like McCain, or any of his dried up old colleagues, to decide what decisions I can or can’t make about my body. Being pro-choice means you believe in a woman’s right to make these deeply personal decisions herself.

Posted by: Jen | August 20, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

“spoon2456 – McCain graduating 894 out of 899 at an Academy makes him more intelligent than 95% of the population in this country.”
Sorry ellsbells but that’s one of the silliest things I’ve ever read…. Graduating 894 out of 899 means he was there only five students ***WORSE*** than him in a group of nearly 900 students. This is well-documented.
You have to admit that was a pretty idiotic remark on your part!!!!!!!

Posted by: Eva B | August 20, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Excuse my typo. Correction, Graduating 894 out of 899 means there were ONLY FIVE STUDENTS WHO DID ***WORSE*** than him in a group of nearly 900 students. This is well-documented.

Posted by: Eva B | August 20, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

Mccain to pick Jack Kevorkian…FILM AT ELEVEN

Posted by: daddyblue | August 20, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Watch the press complain about the traffic during the Republican convention, the bridge collapse you know. If Pawlenty gets the VP, McCain will regret it before the week is over. – MN Commuter.

Posted by: Rich | August 20, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

McCain is a B.S Pro-Lide when he supports the Death Penalty, hello, koolaid drinking evangelicals!!!

Posted by: Megan | August 20, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

McCain isn’t a American Citizen!!
Hello people!!
Check where he was Born, PANAMA!!

Posted by: Megan | August 20, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

McCain flunked flight school 4 times and barely graduated from the Navy College..
He admits he doesn’t know anything about the Economy.
He doesn’t know jack abotu Wars since he has never won one!!

Posted by: Megan | August 20, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

Muslims and big Oil have been in McCain’s pocket for 26 years, HELLO PEOPLE!!!
McCain all about big oil and high gas prices from them!!!
They gave him millions this year!!@
WAKE UP!!!

Posted by: Ricky | August 20, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Megan – Didn’t you ever have civics? It doesn’t matter WHERE he was born as long as his parents were U.S. Citizens. He was automatically a U.S. Citizen.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | August 20, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

Megan-Panama was U.S. territory.

Posted by: S Adams | August 20, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Megan, I don’t know where you get your info but McCain didn’t fail flight school 4 times, he openly admits he graduated 5th from the bottom of his class. Is that what you’re talking about?

Posted by: S Adams | August 20, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

In Jamdung, rude boys couldn’t afford jimmy hats so we had to use the bags that kali came in for connies. Hope it doesn’t get like that here if Senator McMan becomes the President.

Posted by: Rasta Mom | August 20, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Also Megan, Conservatives are pro-life for innocent babies and for the death-penalty for capital murderers. Liberals are for the killing of innocent babies and have compassion for murderers.

Posted by: S Adams | August 20, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

Hey! This conservative is pro-choice & pro-death penalty. At least it’s not hypocritical!!

Posted by: ellsbells930 | August 20, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Politico: Nader Predicts Obama to pick Hillary R. Clinton, Despite the HYPE…
Read Why
Nader says that “Obama has only 75% of Clinton Voters”
Count Ralph Nader as unimpressed by the crop of supposed finalists to be Barack Obama’s running mate.
“I don’t think he’s that dumb,” said Nader, commenting on widespread speculation that Obama’s choices are down to Sens. Joe Biden or Evan Bayh, or Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine.
The smart pick, according to Nader, is Hillary Rodham Clinton. Nader phoned into Politico on Tuesday afternoon to offer his prediction that a surprise nod to Clinton is actually what Obama has in store — never mind the talk of mistrust between the Clintons and Obama.
“He just has to swallow hard and do what JFK did” in picking rival Lyndon Johnson in 1960, said the liberal activist and maverick presidential candidate.
According to Nader’s logic, Obama may dislike Hillary, but will conclude he has no choice but to get over it if he hopes to leave next week’s convention in Denver with a unified party and a decent shot against John McCain in the fall: “The polls show 25 percent of her supporters have not gotten on board.”
“He’s got to be very concerned by the [neck-and-neck] polls and by what happened at Saddleback,” added Nader, referring to the recent candidates forum hosted by evangelist Rick
Nader said his own sources — and, to be blunt, they sound a bit sketchy — lead him to believe that Clinton remains in serious consideration. A friend, he said, recently saw Clinton family intimate Vernon Jordan on Martha’s Vineyard and reported the “usually very effusive” Jordan to be suspiciously “tight-lipped.”

Posted by: o. | August 20, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

The NRA and John McCain Conflict…
McCain does not own Any Hand Guns….
Yet he’s a Pro-Gun Man !!!!
Hahahahahaha !!!!!
Yet Semi-Senile John McCain’s their Gun-Man !!!!
Oh Yeah, what… HYPOCRISY !!!!

Posted by: o. | August 20, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

o. – Your post doesn’t make any sense. There isn’t any rule that says you have to own a gun to want the right to own them stay in tact. I don’t own a gun, but I don’t want my right to own one to go away.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | August 20, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

In Jamdung, we all had guns to keep away the crazy baldheads but that doesn’t mean I want to kill my babies wit dem…

Posted by: Rasta Mom | August 20, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

Eva but McCain graduated and no gave him anything…Now as Obamdummy, how did he get into Harvard when his High school grades were barely good enough to get him into a community college? And why did the people that work with Obama after College basically call him an idiot? And how can a trained attorney not be able to speak without a telepromter? And why does Obama REFUSE to release his college records? Did he even graduate? And on the off chance that snuck through all of Harvard, where is GPA and papers proving he past.

Posted by: chattyway | August 20, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

Correction: Eva but atleast McCain graduated and no one gave him anything…Now as Obamdummy, how did he exactly get into Harvard when his High school grades were barely good enough to get him into a community college? And why did the people that work with Obama after College basically call him an idiot? And how can a trained attorney not be able to speak without a telepromter? And why does Obama REFUSE to release his college records? Did he even graduate? And on the off chance that he snuck through all of Harvard, where is his GPA and papers proving he past.

Posted by: chattyway | August 20, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Chat At Anything: Obama attended a Jr. College…
Then Columbia University….
EXCELLED ACADEMICALLY !!!!
Then onto Harvard, where he EARNED his Magna Cum Laude !!!
McCain is the Dummy, when it comes to Academics…
Sorry, they don’t Hand You Degrees and Academic Accolades for just being a Bi-Racial Person or being a Minority…
Thats for You Low lifes who think that you are Superior Academically, yet don’t hold Any Degree Whatsoever…
Yet if Obama was White with No Degree or Jr. College or City College College Degree, like John McCain…
Your Bias-Predjudice Ass would be Calling Him QUALIFIED, like you are Claiming John “Semi-Senile” McCain is QUALIFIED !!
Hell anyone could be President, if the McCain’s Qualifications are SUFFICIENT to you !!!

Posted by: o. | August 21, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

HellsBells930: “O. Your post doesn’t make any sense. There isn’t any rule that says you have to own a gun to want the right to own them stay in tact. I don’t own a gun, but I don’t want my right to own one to go away”
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Its Very Important, that one of the largest Gun Owners Assc. Give him the Very Worse rating, regarding McCain’s records on Guns and Gun Ownership
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How are you going to Trust a Person that Advocates Gun Ownership on a Podium, but Not Own a Gun ??
Note: Obama Does Not Own a Gun either..
But You Low Lifes have Issue with Obama’s Lack of Gun Ownership…
Oh Brother !!
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HYPOCRISY
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Words Still Stand !!
The NRA and John McCain Conflict…
McCain does not own Any Hand Guns….
Yet he’s a Pro-Gun Man !!!!
Hahahahahaha !!!!!
Yet Semi-Senile John McCain’s their Gun-Man !!!!
Oh Yeah, what… HYPOCRISY !!!!

Posted by: o. | August 21, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Steve, One or the other will be so you might as well vote.
Obamamama, if they are satified with bush vote mccain because that’s what they will get; a repeat.
Tire, why not take a chance on Obama you took one on bush.
S Adams, the country is already gone let’s try get it back.
allowed to vote, you already have the anti-christ.
ejohn, remind him of his meeting he probably forgot.
Rushman, poorman put race aside and get rid of that richmans thinking.
Another man a Manager of a restaurant said he was a repubican, if people can’t patronize your business then you will be without a job. So you are a poorman.
Poor people can not play in the richmans box.
Demo’s 4 mccain, another 4 years of dumb bush.
Mack, kkk meeting you missed it.
It is alright to flip flop if you know you are on the wrong road, it’s best to turn around than keep going the wrong way until you realize you’re lost.

Posted by: debo | August 23, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Steve, One or the other will be so you might as well vote.
Obamamama, if they are satified with bush vote mccain because that’s what they will get; a repeat.
Tire, why not take a chance on Obama you took one on bush.
S Adams, the country is already gone let’s try get it back.
allowed to vote, you already have the anti-christ.
ejohn, remind him of his meeting he probably forgot.
Rushman, poorman put race aside and get rid of that richmans thinking.
Another man a Manager of a restaurant said he was a repubican, if people can’t patronize your business then you will be without a job. So you are a poorman.
Poor people can not play in the richmans box.
Demo’s 4 mccain, another 4 years of dumb bush.
Mack, kkk meeting you missed it.
It is alright to flip flop if you know you are on the wrong road, it’s best to turn around than keep going the wrong way until you realize you’re lost.

Posted by: debo | August 23, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

It does not matter who Obama’s VP is, he will raise taxes, implement as much socialistic agenda as he can and raise taxes even more. He was talking about how he want to tax the US to help the UN feed the world. Who does he think contributes the most to the world. That is why the US is broke and totally indebt. Let the rich oil countries contribute and Europe and Asia. In fact, do the US a favor and get the hell rid of the useless, money sucking UN who does nothing but vote against the US and we support these Pukes! We better wise up before it is too late. We are pretty close to losing everything because our population is so damn dumb and brainwashed continually by the crazy leftist media. They would love to see the US drop to a 3rd world country.

Posted by: tj jacobs | August 23, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

I think that is awesome that John McCain is against abortion and I am 13.

Posted by: sherlock | September 25, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

I think that is awesome that John McCain is against abortion and I am 13.

Posted by: sherlock | September 25, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

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