Aug 21, 2008 6:55pm
New McCain TV Ad Hits Obama Back — on Rezko
The spot is titled "Housing Problem."
"Barack Obama knows a lot about housing problems," says the narrator. "One of his ‘biggest fundraisers’ helped him buy his million-dollar mansion. Purchasing part of the property he couldn’t afford. From Obama, Rezko got ‘political favor’ including ’14 million from taxpayers.’ Now, he’s a convicted felon, facing jail. That’s a housing problem."
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It cracks me up to hear the republicans refer to Obama’s ‘mansion’ – it may be, but it cost alot less than any one of McCain’s condos.
Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
BORING, does NOTHING for me, Obama is probably making the keating 5 ad, where mccain was repremanded by the senate for his illegal dealings and stealing of 3.2 billion.
Posted by: johnosahon | August 21, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Oh Goody! We can now drag Charlie Keating out of the closet!
Posted by: ChrisNBama | August 21, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Let me guess. This is gonna be played on Fox News tonight and … that’s it.
\LOL
Btw for most Americans a “housing problem” is the fact they may be losing their home or are swamped by a mortgage they can’t afford. Not cheap misleading and disproven assertions about a politician.
Just the fact the McCain people think THIS is going to move votes (as if !) is prove of how out-of-touch they are.
Posted by: Michelle | August 21, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Can you say, “Keating 5″, John?
Posted by: JR | August 21, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Actually, McBush probably can’t say “Keating 5″, at least without Lieberman there to correct him.
Posted by: JR | August 21, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
“Purchasing part of the property he couldn’t afford. ”
Couldn’t afford? Isn’t this off message? I thought Obama was a rich celebrity like John McCain?
Hypocrisy, thy name is John McCain.
Posted by: Nobodys fool | August 21, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Political favors? What about the banking/Enron loophole favors McCain has done for Phil Gramm resulting in foreclosures of homes all across the US. Dumb move McCain but thanks for opening the door!
Posted by: Jennifer | August 21, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Barack Obama 2008
Posted by: Ronaldraygun | August 21, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Obama bought his house with laundered tax payer money thru Rezko a convicted felon. Obama deserves to be in jail
Posted by: power wolf | August 21, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Obama shouldn’t throw rocks when McCain will fire Rockets back at him. Hillary had to hold back or she was called racist.
Posted by: power wolf | August 21, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Right on target Jennifer and I’ll be willing to bet he’s got sneaky Phil Gramm back on his staff on the sly.
Posted by: Saddlesablazing | August 21, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
If John Mccain makes Rezko fair game, then Obama needs to bring up
KEATING 5
Posted by: keith Griffin | August 21, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Obama is jealous that McCain and Cindy own more houses than him. Big Deal, who cares how many houses belong to the McCains ? Maybe they are for future investments. But that just proves right there that McCain has more incentive than Obama to put America first! And it also proves that McCain didn’t make a pack with the devil to buy them either! Obama has greased the palms of Rezko others to get his house and where he is politically. John McCain is where he is at because he has characther, ethics & fortitude.
Posted by: NoObama | August 21, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Keating 5 isn’t the only deal McCain has in the closet. McCain secured millions in federal funds for a land acquisition program that benefited the firm. The Washington Post reported that McCain had championed a deal to trade valuable federal land in northern Arizona to a rancher who then enlisted Tempe-based SunCor Development to build as many as 12,000 homes on the property.
McCain dealings outstrip Rezko by millions.
Posted by: JR | August 21, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Sorry Mr McCain but guilt by association does not make anyone a guilty person or we all would be in jail. Most people know someone who has run afoul of the law that doesn’t make them a crook. Not even a good try send your people back to school.
Posted by: Ronaldraygun | August 21, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Am I mistaken, or is all hell breaking loose?
Posted by: Julian | August 21, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
If any of you have reserched the Keating 5 scandal then you will know that Mccain was let off with no wrong doing! Thank You
Posted by: paul | August 21, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
McCain has had several shady land dealings with Arizona developers. He as crooked as a dog’s hind leg.
Posted by: JR | August 21, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Keating 5, as I understood from CNN’s bios last night on both candidates….said John Glenn and John McCain were proven not guilty….and the other 3 were.
Don’t give a fig one way or the other, McCain is my man!
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Keating 5 is nothing for McCain. Beside this is such an old story, the issue here is McCain has made so much achievement in Senate to help him regain people’s trust and respect. Does Obama has any solid record to help him gain people’s trust? NO, nothing. All he has is his words, which as more and more information reveals, are not consistent with his action.
Posted by: amy | August 21, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
keith Griffin
do you even know what the keating 5 is. It all democrats except for McCain. And McCain was the only one found not involved in any wrong doing at all. The others even though not charged with anything were very suspicous. You foolish Democrats trying to make a person guilty when no charges are filed or found innocent. Is that the change Obama promises+
Posted by: power wolf | August 21, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Bravo, McCain, right on target, and so quickly done too! Wow, in less than a day.
Hahaha, you think that Obama can dig up anything new against McCain? McCain has been in politics for 26 years, do you really think he hasn’t been vetted by prior opponents, time and time again?
Don’t you think that is why Obama is so despertae, that he is using silly things like mcCain’s joke at SAddleback, or his houses, as pathetic little attackes? DESPERATION!!!!
Obama, on the other hand, has a completely unvetted and scary past. Time will only tell what will emerge about REzko, Ayers, and many many many other issues. The GOP is sitting on a small mountain of issues that will bury the poor precious Obama.
and I will love very minute of the truth that will come out.
He is done.
President McCain…..hero, maverick, patriot.
Posted by: decentAmerican | August 21, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
“Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses? Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people “cling” to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans?
Posted by: paul | August 21, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Obama just been hit by a cinder block in this AD. This is very damaging to Obama dealing with convicted felons using tax payers money to hand out special favors
Posted by: power wolf | August 21, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Ronaldraygun…..DOING business with criminals is a problem….Rezko got Obama’s house for him UNDERMARKET and Rezko’s wifey bought the empty lot next door so the Obama’s could expand their property by buying some of it from her.
OBAMA KNEW WHO HE WAS DEALING WITH AND FAVORS BETWEEN THEM EARNED TONY REZ 17 MILLION.
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
And to think Obama lived next door to this creep Rezko.
Posted by: power wolf | August 21, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
I’m John McCain and I aprove this house of mine which I can’t remember if its number one or number 5 mabey number 4.
Posted by: Ronaldraygun | August 21, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Ronaldraygun….Rezko and Obama is WAY more than guilt by association. There was even a story about it in the New York pOst today….take a read, you will be enlightened. Obama helped Rezko develop his slums, and REzko helped Obama get ahead. And the land deal was a classic example of this issue. It is not just an association.
Can you say corruption?
I love it, I love it, I love it. More please!
Posted by: decentAmerican | August 21, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Keating 5 is an old story, yeah, old and true. The Rezko thing is mud thrown to cover McBush’s underhanded dealings.
Posted by: JR | August 21, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
I hate to say it but Obama started this one. Obama forgot that he is not dealing with the Clitons who were always charged with RACISM anytime they said the truth about Obama
Posted by: power wolf | August 21, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
McCain lied 4200 have died and 32000 have bled, how many more do we sacrafice for China to come get the Iraqi oil?
Posted by: Viet Nam Vets Against McCain | August 21, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Paul-Hawaii is a state, Obama grew up there, he visted family while he was there and spent time at the location where his mother’s ashes were spread. That makes him human so what does that make you to call him out on it?
Posted by: Jennifer | August 21, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
paul
Obama not only lied about his support of Pro Abortion born alive. He also lied in another debate with Hillary that he did not sign anti gun bills. You can even look that one up on the internet and see his signature and writing all over the bill
Posted by: power wolf | August 21, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
How many houses could Obama have purchased with his income last year? Obama is a flake. If this is the best Obama and his cast of characters can do, the Dems are in deep doo doo.
Posted by: Kitty | August 21, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
MC CAIN OFFICES IN DENVER RECIEVED THREATENLING LETTERS AND THAT DAMN WHITE POWDER…HERE WE GO AGAIN.
Also the NH office.
Posted by: i am so I can!!!! | August 21, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
By McCain’s standards of wealth, Obama is middle class.
Posted by: Jennifer | August 21, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
McCain “08″ Keep You Change!
Posted by: paul | August 21, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Jennifer
Whats worse a misstament. Or Obama running a campaign of CHANGE. And all the while his change is taking our tax money to hand out political favors to convicted felons and buy houses from under market price.
Posted by: power wolf | August 21, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
May I suggest why I favor McCain on one item alone? He can lay clear claim to possession of greater character. obama by contrast offers to “help” certain parts of our society. No matter how well intended, that sort of help is a form of favoriism.
I hold to but two basic beliefs. Most simply stated, they are that all should be treated equally, and that corruption is unacceptable. If all are not equal in their rights, in their treatment before law, then those charged with enforcement of the law have the power to favor some. That power can, indeed surely will, corrupt. The greatest threat to any regime is the loss of its constituents’ trust. Nothing will erode that trust more swiftly than corruption. Thus the state, for its own interest, must govern equally.
Posted by: Tom Beebe | August 21, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Obama how could you do this to us. Its worse than the John Edward debacle. Hillary was right this was going to be a big issue during the Primary Election
Posted by: power wolf | August 21, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
McCain is our man. Thanks allot for showing Obama for what he really stands for. Not his JUST WORDS speeches that he gives.
Posted by: power wolf | August 21, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Bring on the keating 5! It’s like shooting a gun with blanks. Nothing like Obama’s crooked past.
Come on John – pain the real picture of this ugly American!
Posted by: Martin Slueg, jr | August 21, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
McCain didn’t know how many houses he had.What the big deal? Cindy and her Children and heirs own them, not McCain.
Obama put his foot in his mouth with this one, there is nothing illegal about owing 8 or 80 houses, but getting a kickback for political favors to be able to buy a home out of your price range may very well turn out to be.
Posted by: Jay | August 21, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
The bottom line is that the majority of folks will not vote for a black guy…period. So Obama can yuck it up all he wants with Seal and fitty cent and Chris Rock….but he’s not getting elected. You ObamaBots enjoy it while it lasts.
Posted by: Maximeliano | August 21, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Obama will say “Did i do that”
Posted by: paul | August 21, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
“Cindy and her Children and heirs own them, not McCain.”
Oh, now McCain is hiding behind his wife’s skirts?
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Obama 2008, Obama 2008.
Posted by: power volf | August 21, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Willem van Oranje can you be a little more corny with the jokes?
Posted by: paul | August 21, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
McCain 08 if you want the draft, and more of the Bush failed policies. We knew that after McCain buried his head in GW’s sweaty armpits he was a Bushie all the way. Bush partied with McCain while Katerina slammed the Gulf coast, just 2 good old boys having fun.
Posted by: Katie | August 21, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Hah: prepare for the Keating Five ad.
Also prepare for the Lobbyist ads:
McCain said today Washington had too many lobbyists. So that’s why he took 160 of them with him on the Campaign Trail? Problem solved?
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
McCain “08″ Keep You Change!
Get use to it!
Posted by: paul | August 21, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Cindy McCain seems to have daddy issues where men are concerned, but at least she had the good judgement to have a pre-nup and made sure her assets were protected from McCain if she chose to ever leave.
Posted by: Ronaldraygun | August 21, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Obama should donate his house to charity now since this bad news has been uncovered
Posted by: power wolf | August 21, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
HaHa get ready for the William Ayers ads!!
Posted by: paul | August 21, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Zach, are you completely oblivious to the FACTS that have already been published by Chicago papers about Obama and REzko, and was just in the New York Post today? Let me refresh you: Obama was influential using his power in the senate to channel money to Rezko land deals; REzko then helped Obama with his campaign financing. Rezko did not have enough cash to pay for heating for some of his housing units, yet still had money to donate to Obama’s campaign. Obama has been invovled with REzko for years. It is all out there, that fact that you dont know it ( or know it, but refuse to recongize it) is scary.
But every one else knows it. That is why the DNC is tanking like the titanic for having the gall to nominate the country’s worst candidate in history (yes, worse than Bush), Obama.
Posted by: decentAmerican | August 21, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Nobodys fool wrote:
“Couldn’t afford? Isn’t this off message? I thought Obama was a rich celebrity like John McCain?”
Exactly. First thing I saw too.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | August 21, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
“and I’ll be willing to bet he’s got sneaky Phil Gramm back on his staff on the sly”
Phill ‘nation of whiners’ Gramm IS back on his staff, just not in public anymore. I wonder why
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Rather Interesting…
Looks like NObama decided to play the “house” card…
McCAIN’s Roberts stated it best regarding NObama:
“Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses?”
Guess so – Now it looks like we will have to hear ALL about NObama’s “PAST and Present Adventures in Chicago Politics”: esp. with Rezko, CAC, Ayers, Wright, Farrakahn, Pfleger, Dohrn, Sharpton et al…
Stay tuned – should be very enlightening (and it IS – tip of the iceberg re. NObama!!) !!
McCLAIN or Hillary in ‘08
Posted by: CJB in CA | August 21, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Why oh why did Obama have to go their my brothers and sisters?
Posted by: tamika | August 21, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
maximeliano…..I am a Hillary supporter for McCain and I disagree that America won’t vote a black man into the highest office….it’s just THIS black man. I am so fine with it, just a Colin or a Condi. Obama has too much anti American stink on him.
McCAIN ’08/HILLARY ’12
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Yeah, this and the McCain house thing are basically the same. I mean it isn’t like there was an investigation that failed to find ANY impropriety with the puchase. And it isn’t like McCain has not been associated with felons and land deals right Mr. Keating? McCain is the GOP sacrifical lamb in this campaign. They know that the record of the sitting President has killed their chances this year.
Posted by: Louis | August 21, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
The more Obama takes swipes and plays politics as usual, the more risk he takes from Reps. bringing up his unmentionables…..he better not go there.
McCain ’08/Hillary ’12
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
I’m a McCain supporter and wish he would just stick to the issues. He needs to tell folks why he would be a good president. Lately, all he’s been doing is trying to tear his opponent down.
Posted by: moi | August 21, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
About time JM played real hard ball! BHO – time to play with the big boys! Don’t know why you Obama fans would want to bring up the Keating 5: 4 of them were Dems, and JM was cleared. Anyway, don’t you think Rezko kinda made that charge moot? Anyway, who boasted about new politics? Sounds like same ole, same ole.
Posted by: Beckie | August 21, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Oh oh… Does McCain really want to go here? Does he want Keating 5 to be brought? You know, the Keating 5 that cost the US government $3.4 billion, and one that McCain was involved through his eyeballs. Or G. Gordon Liddy…
Posted by: David | August 21, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Debra, Thank you for the EXCELLENT point – do not have the same reservations / concerns regarding Colin Powell, Condi Rice… !!
Is there any way Hillary can be nominated in ’08?
McCAIN or Hillary in ’08
Posted by: CJB in CA | August 21, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
CJB wrote:”Debra, Thank you for the EXCELLENT point”
Oh thank you dear. Actually I don’t think there is a chance in Hades that Hillary would lower herself to McCain’s level.
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Willem…Your a good egg! wink wink
Posted by: i am so I can!!!! | August 21, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
So what if McCain has 7 houses…who cares…I would want someone who had attained some of that success…unless it is all Cindys…look at Trump he is loaded and smart as a whip….I don’t think weath is a bad thing.I think it shows how succesful one is in life…if you are a self made person who attains wealth that is not something to be ashamed of…in JMC’s case he had help…but this also affords those people with the ability to tap into the best brains and move mountains…so I hav eno problem with 7 houses….I am sure some of them are rented out and generate income.
As Ring Lardner said” The rich are different than you or I. “
Posted by: i am so I can!!!! | August 21, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
There are many rich Americans in America. Is that a problem with Comrade Obama now? His fundamental change will mean what? Everyone, all of us will be poor?
Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Obama has done nothing and it’s already proven……Boy McCain camp is scared this time….bringing everything out? Nothing will be left for the fall – ROTFLMAO Bring it on!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mr out of touch mcsame | August 21, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
My mistake it was F Scott Fitzgerald who said:
The very rich are different than you and I.
No kidding … but I wish I were rich…just for a nanosecond…lol
Posted by: i am so I can!!!! | August 21, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Hahaha. This going to be so much fun.
All the McBushes have got is innuendo. They can’t stand it that Obama earned his house by hard work, instead of marrying into wealth.
He did not get a ‘deal’ on the house, he bargained with the seller: the house had been on the market several months. You know what that means … It brings down the price.
Simple as that.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
The Republicans weren’t planning to run with the Rezko in August. They had it planned for October.
By November, voters are sick of Republicans yelling ‘Rezko’ and ‘POW’ every time their man is in trouble.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
I feel so bad for Debra on this board.
She hitched her wagon to a loser in the primaries, now she’s hitching her wagon to a loser in the presidential too.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
@Debra
Every time I see the “McCain ’08/Hillary ’12″ slogan I wonder: Which one is it gonna be? You need to make up your mind, because you can’t have both. Not in the real world of politics.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | August 21, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Rumsfeld is throwing McWar under the Bush.
McCain wants to portray himself as an early critic of Rumsfeld but according to a Rumsfeld aide, that’s a fairy tale:
From the Washington Times, that ‘liberal rag’:
An aide to the secretary said Mr. McCain’s account is incorrect. “In November 2003, Secretary Rumsfeld and Senator McCain had one of a number of conversations that ended with the two in agreement on the need to win in Iraq,” Keith Urbahn said. “Senator McCain may prefer to characterize their meeting as a Showdown at the OK Corral, but that’s not straight talk. It’s a fairy tale.”
Mr. Rumsfeld wrote a two-sentence summary shortly after his meeting, according to his office. “I had breakfast with Senator McCain. He said, ‘The answer may not be more troops in Iraq, but the answer is not the status quo.’ I agree with him.”
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Obama really stepped in it!
Lol!
What a moron. He was goaded into launching a sleazy attack on McCain, and now it blew up in his face, as predicted.
Posted by: OxyCon | August 21, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
“All the McBushes have got is innuendo. They can’t stand it that Obama earned his house by hard work…” william tangerine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>earned his house by hard work in pork bellies and (big)ear marks and money from the likes of Rezko…. with payment due to the likes of Emil Jones and those legislators who lent Obama their legislation to pass along as his!
He also used the funds returned to the Obama’s in the shape of a noticeably large raise in her pay by Michelle’s
thankful employer.
And wasn’t there something about the rate of the mortgage percentage…. which was running m i g h t y l o w?
And the $15,000,000 Barack earmarked for his erstwhile church….. Wasn’t that used to pay of Jeremiah his $10,000,000 plus multi-million dollar retirement home?
Now McCain…… didn’t need to stoop that low…..
And I LIKE that in a candidate!
Posted by: eyes opening... | August 21, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
Outstanding!!!
As we all knew, the Rezko connection would be the one that will stand out when it counts.
One could probably say that we won’t hear too much more about “housing” from the Obamabots and their campaign groupies…
Posted by: Jayhawk | August 21, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Bring it on, McCain! This “attack” is pretty weak beer. Keating 5 anyone?
Posted by: Ruth | August 21, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Well, Obamabots…
For those of you who think the Rezko connection will wear out before the election, think again.
Rezko is on trial, and the plot that is unwinding to his long and deep connection to Barack Obama is growing thicker each and every day.
Rezko is not some pathetic, racist, hate-mongering preacher that Obama can hide or buy off. Actually, it was Rezko who did the buying off.
This item will not play out like the twenty years of religious hatred found in Jeremiah Wright and his congregation (of which the Obamas were members).
Rather, the trial (and the story) will continue just like the Energizer bunny…
It just keeps going, and going, and going, and going, and going…
Posted by: Jayhawk | August 21, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
The Rezko trial is done, he just needs to be sentenced……next.
Posted by: d | August 21, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
This ad is kind of bizarre. It doesn’t even make sense. The house looks like homes near my neighborhood, not like a mansion.
A real housing problem is people struggling to stay in their homes. McCain doesn’t seem to get it.
Posted by: cincyr | August 21, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
I feel so badly for the poster upthread who said that Obama didn’t do anything wrong with the Rezko deal.
Apparently the poster doesn’t know that Obama admits it was wrong and a boneheaded thing to do.
Do try to keep up.
Posted by: Peach | August 21, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Obama says he doesn’t take lobbyist money, but we all know that’s a lie since the Chicago Tribune outted him.
Posted by: Peach | August 21, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Gosh, the class warfare that Obama plays is really sad. And the dummies fall for it every time.
Posted by: Peach | August 21, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
I’m looking at the names of the Keating 5 and 4 of them were Democrats. I’m stunned, simply stunned. /s
The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board
Posted by: Peach | August 21, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
A disturbing number of you are under the illusion that John McCain was convicted of something in the Keating 5 scandal. Wrong. The only people convicted in that mess were Democrats.
After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised “poor judgment”.
Posted by: Peach | August 21, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Another little tidbit from Keating 5 history:
Democrats asked McCain to do something unethical and he refused.
Now, I know that you are all entitled to your own opinions, but you aren’t entitled to your own facts.
By March 1987, Keating and DeConcini were asking McCain to travel to San Francisco to meet with regulators regarding Lincoln Savings; McCain refused.[8][6] DeConcini told Keating that McCain was nervous about interfering.[6] Keating called McCain a “wimp” behind his back, and on March 24, Keating and McCain had a heated, contentious meeting.[8]
Posted by: Peach | August 21, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Hmmm — just five minutes investigation and it looks like, of the 5 involved in the Keating mess, McCain looked like the best of the bunch.
From Wikipedia:
On April 9, 1987, a two-hour meeting[4] with three members of the FHLBB San Francisco branch was held, again in DeConcini’s office, to discuss the government’s investigation of Lincoln.[8][6] Present were Cranston, DeConcini, Glenn, McCain, and additionally Riegle.[6] The regulators felt that the meeting was very unusual and that they were being pressured by a united front, as the senators presented their reasons for having the meeting.[6] McCain said, “One of our jobs as elected officials is to help constituents in a proper fashion. ACC is a big employer and important to the local economy. I wouldn’t want any special favors for them…. I don’t want any part of our conversation to be improper.” Glenn said, “To be blunt, you should charge them or get off their backs,” while DeConcini said, “What’s wrong with this if they’re willing to clean up their act? … It’s very unusual for us to have a company that could be put out of business by its regulators.”[6] The regulators then revealed that Lincoln was under criminal investigation on a variety of serious charges, at which point McCain severed all relations with Keating.[6] Glenn continued to help Keating after that revelation, by setting up a meeting with then-House Majority Leader Jim Wright, which turned out to be the only questionable thing Glenn did throughout the whole affair.[9]
Posted by: Peach | August 21, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
More from Wikipedia:
The Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of McCain in the scheme was also minimal, and he too was cleared of all charges against him.[18][17] McCain was criticized by the Committee for exercising “poor judgment” when he met with the federal regulators on Keating’s behalf.[6] The report also said that McCain’s “actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him….Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate.”[14] On his Keating Five experience, McCain has said: “The appearance of it was wrong. It’s a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do.”[6]
Several accounts of the controversy contend that McCain was included in the investigation primarily so that there would be at least one Republican target.[21][22][23][9]
Posted by: Peach | August 21, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
I am quite certain of one thing — none of the actual facts about McCain as it relates to Keating will stop the liberal mantra that he did something wrong.
Posted by: Peach | August 21, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
“By November, voters are sick of Republicans yelling ‘Rezko’ and ‘POW’ every time their man is in trouble.”
BY November
McCain will be President elect McCain
Posted by: geevill | August 21, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
It sure got awfully quiet in here the minute someone came along with actual facts about Keating and how McCain didn’t do anything wrong.
Posted by: Peach | August 21, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Beebee,
Boy are you smart. You put into words exactly how the country feels about Bush and his cronies. You could not have said it better. Guess who follows in his footsteps, John of course.
His first wife could not trust him,his religion he has mocked(a fortune
from sale of alcoholwhich is against the teaching of the SBC), and his experience is lacking,
Posted by: aw | August 22, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Obama’s initial volley here reminds me a bit of Georgia’s venture into South Ossetia. Gave the Republicans the pretense they were waiting for. Now when they unload on him they can say they are simply returning fire. And unload they will—Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Pfleger, Exelon, Killerspin…
Posted by: Nancy | August 22, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
I don’t really get the Rezko thing. Is there any suggestion that Obama did anything improper? Honestly I am not sure if there is? I think actually the charge sheet on some of these things counts more against McCain (7 houses versus 1, Not calling Reed as a witness in the Abramoff hearings, having Reed host a fundraiser vs an uncertain connection with a convicted Felon, going out and seeking the endorsement of certain nasty right wing evangelicals vs happening to go to the church of 1 left wing evangelical, constantly saying ‘my friend’ then grinning innanely vs not saying my friend)
Posted by: markymark | August 22, 2008, 5:31 am 5:31 am
We now have ads out featuring both William Ayers and Tony Rezko. Not exactly the lift the Democrats were looking for going into their convention.
Americans have to be asking themselves: Who are the idiots running this party who are actually going to nominate this loser? And maybe there’s a reason the Democratic-controlled Congress has an approval rating that’s HALF of Bush’s approval rating.
Trust the Dems to always have the ability to make dust from gold – an election that should have been a slam-dunk is shooting down the tubes!
Posted by: marylou | August 22, 2008, 6:08 am 6:08 am
Obama had nothing to do with rezkos crimes FOX NEWS YES FOX NEWS even said no ties linked to rezkos crimes and rezko DID NOT HELP OBAMA BUY HIS HOUSE!! once again mccain is lying and spinning again man that mccain sure does lie alot!!!! some president he will make we wont know when hes telling the truth or lying!!!!
Posted by: angie | August 22, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am
Obama is grasping for anything to deflect attention away from the attacks he is getting from the pro-life groups.
He voted 3X against a bill to protect infants that survive abortion. He was the only one to vote against it.
Then he accused the pro-life group of lying about him. Where are the values Obama preaches about?
Posted by: riley | August 22, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
John McCain ‘approves this message’? As in this Rove-like spin on the facts? So much for the Straight-Talk Express. Now we’re seeing the real McCain: the say-anything-to-win McCain.
Posted by: Tom J | August 22, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
Angie – all one needs to do is google Rezko+Obama to see that Obama was in the wrong. He has admitted as much. It’s unfortunate his supporters can’t do the same. But nice spin and A for effort.
Posted by: Peach | August 22, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
You keep bringing up Rezko but what was Obama convicted of, nothing. Was he even on trial, no. What exactly was his crime. It’s a non issue. You can spin it all you want.
Posted by: d | August 22, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
d – I get a real kick out of the fact that Obama admitted what he did was wrong, but his supporters can’t do the same. Carry on — it’s most amusing!
Posted by: Peach | August 22, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Yes peach he admitted he was wrong but where is the crime here, poor judgement maybe. You have yet to explain that. Of course McCain was accused of poor judgement in the Keating 5 issue right. So please explain the difference.
Posted by: d | August 22, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Obama supporters can keep saying Rezko is a “dead issue” and Rezko is no big deal. But, all of Mccain’s ads are well-produced and hard hitting. They work. Obama’s ads look like bad GE ads.
And, telling people that McCain is rich is like telling Americans that have too many credit cards. Who cares? Everyone in America wants to be rich. No one will see it as a crime on McCain’s part. If McCain came off as a rich elitist that would be another story, but he doesn’t. He seems more in touch than Obama. Maybe it’s because he suffered in a POW camp just like every other solider in the war.
Posted by: katherine | August 22, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Obama had said that wives and family were off limits in the campaign, but now that Obama flip flopped again, and decided it was ok to take a swipe at Cindy McCain in his latest negative television ad, I think McCain should go after Michelle Obama for saying “America is a mean country” … “It’s the first time in my adult life, that I’m proud to be an American” … taking her kids to Jeremiah Wright’s church, and her going there for over 20 years … etc..
Posted by: Gina | August 23, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am