By Natalie Gewargis

Aug 6, 2008 11:00am

Obama: “In the Coming Days It’s Going to Be Interesting Watching this Debate Between John McCain and John McCain”

Before a crowd of 1,600 in Elkhart, Indiana, at Concord High School, just now, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, added some more air in the tire-inflation debate again, saying:

"A few days ago somebody asked me what they could do personally to help America save energy. So I said something that some of you heard, which is all of us we could get better gas mileage and save oil in the process just by keeping our tires inflated. Turns out the experts agreed. Turns out that we can save 3-4% on our total oil consumption just by keeping our cars tuned up and inflating our tires."

Obama continued, per ABC News’ Sunlen Miller, saying, "McCain and the Republican National Committee, though, mocked the idea, and they went around sending tire gauges to reporters saying ‘Barack Obama’s energy plan’. Well, you know that sounded clever except last night, after all that, Senator McCain actually said that he agreed that keeping our tires inflated was a good idea. Which makes sense because it turns out NASCAR which knows something about tires apparently said the same thing, so did the Triple A. So in the coming days it’s going to be interesting to watch this debate between John McCain and John McCain."

This is a reference to McCain saying, during a tele-town hall last night, “could I mention that Senator Obama a couple of days ago said that we ought to all inflate our tires, and I don’t disagree with that. The American Automobile Association strongly recommends it, but I also don’t think that that’s a way to become energy independent." (Listen HERE )

This really isn’t very different from what McCain said on July 31 in Racine, Wisc., when he, his campaign, and the RNC began making an issue out of this tire inflation deal:

"Yesterday, he suggested we put air in our tires to save on gas. My friends, let’s do that, but do you think that’s enough to break our dependence on Middle Eastern oil? I don’t think so. So I believe that every energy source needs to be part of the solution." (Watch HERE )

But the disconnect is strange.

Why is the McCain campaign mocking an energy-savings measure McCain acknowledges is a smart one? The campaign insists they’re mocking the idea that this is Obama’s entire energy plan, which of course it isn’t.

My personal theory — and it’s just that, pure conjecture — is that we’re seeing the disconnect between McCain the senator who has shown in the past efforts to be intellectually honest and McCain the presidential candidate who wants to win, even if that means putting Paris Hilton in a TV ad.

So, my theory is that Obama’s right in that there’s a debate going on there — but he’s not correct in what it’s about. It’s not about whether tires should be inflated to bring in energy savings. It’s about what tactics the candidate is comfortable using.

Thoughts?

- jpt

User Comments

and Obama also said it was a replacement for drilling new oil. Boy he looks like a dimwit by keeping harping on it. and by the way -air is not free anymore -it cost 75 cents or a dollar at most stations.

Posted by: geevill | August 6, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

McCain is mocking, and rightly so, the absurd claim by Obanma that putting air in our tires is a substitute for drilling new oil.

Posted by: geevill | August 6, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

The sad fact is that Obama’s “energy” proposals were mainly about inflating tires. It was only this week that he started to try to include more specifics. What Barry learned too late was that you can’t run a general election campaign by being vague. So McCain jumped on him for it.

Posted by: yup | August 6, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

let’s not forget that Barack offered nothing new to the debate except for “inflating tires”. And now he’s incorporating McCain’s ideas into his platform, reversing his opposition to off-shore drilling and using the reserves.

Posted by: trustthesky | August 6, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Obama did not say it was a replacement for drilling.
From his website here is the glance of hies energy goals:
Reduce the Burden of Rising Gas Prices on Working Families
Reduce Carbon Emissions 80 Percent by 2050
Invest in a Clean Energy Future
Support Next Generation Biofuels
Set America on Path to Oil Independence
Improve Energy Efficiency 50 Percent by 2030
Restore U.S. Leadership on Climate Change
Now go read the plan, get educated before commenting.

Posted by: Hovey | August 6, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

once again we hear St. John of Hanoi is too good to really mean it when he runs an empty, negative campaign. What does that mean if he wins? That someone like Cheney will easily be able to manipulate him. McCain needs to be held responsible for his own campaign.

Posted by: te | August 6, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

jpt: “It’s about what tactics the candidate is comfortable using. ”
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I would say both candidates have used some jabs against the other, with Obama’s campaign constantly and wrongly invoking McCain’s “100 years” comment earlier in the campaign, picturing him with Bush, and using the words same OLD politics.
I don’t know if either one is especially comfortable doing it, but it seems pollyanna-ish at this point to assume the two sides are going to represent the other side entirely fairly.
That’s why we need a fair press, and that’s why I’m glad to have Jake Tapper.

Posted by: MayBee | August 6, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

We are electing a President not a replacement for “Hints from Helouise.”
yeah we know. drive less, drive slower, put air in tires, yada, yada, yada. Obama just another liberal leturing us.

Posted by: geevill | August 6, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

What dishonest posters here. Obama has touted conservation and green technology since last year. He has always been for increasing auto mileage standards for years while McCain has been against it. Obama has understood our energy problems while McCain has been supporting a war in Iraq to protect Mideast Oil. McCain just wants to drill, drill, drill even though that will not help us right now. McCain has taken big big money from Big Oil. He is in their pocket. I think the tire gauge is just a tactic to divert attention from Obama’s energy rebate, stop oil speculators and tax windfall profits plan. McCain really does not have a plan.

Posted by: al | August 6, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

yup, thats totally wrong and you SHOULD know that. It was only last week that Obama ridiculed McCain’s offshore leasing ideas by comparing them to inflating your tires.
Obama was being overly generous, though. There is no evidence that increasing offshore leases will actually lead to drilling for oil, and even if it did, it would be many years before that oil could get refined into gas.
Closing the Enron loophole is the only proposal that will bring a significant decrease in gas prices in the short term.

Posted by: Mike | August 6, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

“Now go read the plan, get educated before commenting.”
Those are not goals, but not an actual roadmap of how to achieve it.
Oy vey, I guess our country is due for a meltdown.

Posted by: trustthesky | August 6, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

correction: Those are goals, not a roadmap.
We need a leader who has answers, not pie-in-the-sky rhetoric!

Posted by: trustthesky | August 6, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

If you think that allowing oil companies to drill off shore will save you a dime tomorrow, next yeat, or in ten years you’re mistaken. In fact in twenty years it may only save you thirty cents on a gallon.
You fools would sell out what’s left of our environment for that?
Great plan.

Posted by: R | August 6, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

We are never going to achieve those goals. besides Obama scrubs his website daily. Wright (gone) Pfleger (gone) Anti-surge comments (gone) I suppose he now favors drilling.

Posted by: geevill | August 6, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

It’s very simple. Obama wanted to change demand for oil. McCain wanted to change both supply AND demand. Do you really believe that McCain is not for saving energy and reducing consumption? OF COURSE HE IS! Most politicians worth his salt are! The difference is taht McCain understands that you have to attack a problem from both supply and demand. Obama does not understand taht, he just wanted to attack the problem from Demand side. However, this week he realized he was wrong and tried to incorporate McCain’s plan as well.
Obama won the nomination by being ideological with his base, but he’s gonna lose it in the general because that is not what Americans want.

Posted by: trustthesky | August 6, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

geevill
That is a McCain talking point.
Obama said it would be equal to or better the savings in the short run until alternatives kick in. He did not say it was a replacement

Posted by: focus | August 6, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

“and I don’t disagree with that”
“let’s do that”
McCain did not say keeping your tires properly inflated is a bad idea. More media lying

Posted by: geevill | August 6, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

“believe that McCain is not for saving energy and reducing consumption?”
Well, if you can pretend that that is the entirety of Obama’s plan, I can pretend that it isn’t in McCains plan, cant I?

Posted by: Mike | August 6, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Bottom line is tire inflation doesn’t cut it as BHO has suggested. The more Obama talks about this, the better McCain looks.
The country overwhelmingly favors additional drilling for US oil. McCain has a comprehensive plan while Obama is stuck behind Pelosi’s refusal drill.

Posted by: padhorn | August 6, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Jake,
Obama didn’t say the debate was about inflating tires. It could very well be about what you said in your last paragraph.

Posted by: Lance D. | August 6, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

geevil,
He never said it was a replacement for drilling new Oil. He was only suggesting an alternative way to save energy which has been advocated by Experts before now.
Please lets get our facts right and stop playing dumb politics with the lifes of Americans.
Off-Drilling will solve the problem marginally and in the short run. But the environmental degradation it will bring about will far out-weigh its benefits.
Please becareful what you wish for because it may come back to hunt you and I.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | August 6, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

OBAMA’S GRASPING AT STRAWS. THE GOP HAS EXPOSED OBAMA FOR THE FRAUD AND INEXPERIENCED FOOL HE IS.

Posted by: Foodforthought | August 6, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

“Well, if you can pretend that that is the entirety of Obama’s plan, I can pretend that it isn’t in McCains plan, cant I?”
McCain has been more specific with his energy plan. Obama tried to unveil his this week, for the first time, and he failed because people realized that he was just touting important parts of John McCain’s plan!

Posted by: mccain 08 | August 6, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

“We could save all the oil that they’re talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could actually save just as much,” Obama told a campaign rally Thursday in Springfield, Mo.”
Yes he did. Can’t that genie back in the bottle.

Posted by: geevill | August 6, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

Padhorn,
Some People who thinks that the easiest way is the best way out overwhelmimngly favors additional drilling for US oil.
I will suggest that the Dems back down and vote in favor of Off-Shore drilling so that those that are being misled to think that Off-Shore drilling holds the solution to Energy Crises will once and for all see their folly.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | August 6, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

And the cynic is…….Obama

Posted by: smith | August 6, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Just another example of BO “open mouth, ad lib” in between the parts his advisers teleprompt him to say.

Posted by: Emm | August 6, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Bingo, Jake. But I’m not sure the debate is ongoing. It looks to me as though Senator McCain has made his choice. He is, it seems, willing to flush his reputation in order to win an election.

Posted by: Miles Archer | August 6, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

BO’s $1000 energy relief rebate= Can I buy your vote?

Posted by: Emm | August 6, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

white-haired-dude has no clue! he is totally clueless about anything. I tried to watch him the other day, I felt so sorry for the few who showed up. He just rambled and rambled, nothing he had nothing but Obama this and Obama that. I actually thought he was going to indorse Obama before he was finished. LOL

Posted by: beck | August 6, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

The problem with Obama`s tire pressure scam is that his projected oil savings assumes we are all nincompoops driving around with under iflated tires.

Posted by: Luke | August 6, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

That was meant to be under inflated tires. Let the Obama vs Obama debate begin.

Posted by: Luke | August 6, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

Obviously McBush and RNC know better about tires than NASCAR and Triple A.
Just like he knows the difference between Sunni & Shia.
All right minded literate people know that Obama’s plan does not only involve inflating tires. BTW I am a proud Republican.

Posted by: linda | August 6, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

This entire narrative/debate is stupid.
The man (Obama) was asked what someone PERSONALLY could do. I don’t know about you, but I don’t have an extra oil derrick out in the back yard that I can PERSONALLY start drilling with…I do have 4 tires on my car that I can PERSONALLY check the pressure in…which I did…and which were underinflated at 28-30psi vs the 32psi prescribed for those particular tires.

Posted by: Williemo Pena | August 6, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

You gotta hear Paris’ energy policy ad. The GOP gang might want to reconsider John McCain and think about Paris instead. Aside from being able to speak English she seems to be a heck of a lot smarter than McCain..plus she’s prettier…maybe that will help you win the White House again. Never know…it might be worth a try cause you can’t win with McDummy!

Posted by: Paris' Energy Policy | August 6, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

We have heard this naysaying before. replace drilling for oil with the surge.
Obama was wrong then and wrong now

Posted by: geevill | August 6, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

It isn’t nearly as amusing as watching Obama twirl like a weathervane with whichever way the wind of opinion blows.

Posted by: marylou | August 6, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

geevill: How much do you know about the Oil Industry??? Almost zilch I’m guessing. The Oil industry here in American are drilling. They have started over 15,000 new well starts this year alone 499 off shore and on inland waters. If you care to learn about what your lacking knowledge of try doing some reaserch before spouting off at the mouth. FYI, yes I’m aware a well start does not always translate into a producing well.

Posted by: depravedmaniac | August 6, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

My point geevill is all this “drill here, drill now” is McCain crapola because they are drilling here and now.

Posted by: depravedmaniac | August 6, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

I wish Mc Cain would give one inspiring speech or offer more intelligent arguments.
But I am not getting my hopes up.
He voted 90% of the time with George Bush. Have you seen Barack Obama’s commercial with a film clip of Mc Cain saying “I voted 90% of the time with the President (referring to Bush).

Posted by: change is good | August 6, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

Paris Hilton’s energy plan is much better than “the old wrinkly dudes.”

Posted by: pieceof cake | August 6, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

It’s a disconnect between the campaign McCain wants to run, and the campaign his advisors know he must have to win.

Posted by: taricha | August 6, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Hope Hussein, you said that “Obama did NOT say inflating your tires was a substitute for drilling” then went on to say “he said the amount of oil that consumers could conserve… could yield as much as off shore drilling”.
Those two statements draw one and the same conclusion as stated by Obama: “we could save ALL the oil that they’re talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires”.

Posted by: marylou | August 6, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

I disagree, McCain is not debating himself, he has no problem lying, he has run his campaigns like this before, remember his “facts” during the debates with Mitt Romney? What is remarkable is that McCain is seen as honest to start with and Romney for example was not.

Posted by: Rick | August 6, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

McCain needs to raise fears about electing a man they don’t know who has only a few years of experience in federal office. (Indeed, Obama’s only been in the Senate since 2005, and he spent most of 2007 and 2008 running for president, paying almost no attention to his duties in the Senate, as witness his absentee record.)
These fears will focus on two key areas: the economy and national security.
People need to know what the impact of doubling the tax on capital gains would be — how it would drive investment out of the country and cost us one to two points a year in economic growth for the rest of the decade.
Voters should know how Obama can’t possibly finance his programs — particularly his health-insurance schemes — with the tax hikes he’s advocating. They need to ponder the impact of these tax hikes on an already slowing economy, it’s legitimate to fear a new depression, not just a recession.
Economics is a field voters don’t know much about and, consequently, fear greatly. Obama can capitalize on the current hard times, but he can lose big time if the impact of his tax policies is explained.
On national security, events could take over and put the issue center stage. McCain must lay the groundwork to take advantage of whatever situation develops. He needs to hammer home the accusation that Obama is “naive” and “inexperienced” — both of which are obviously true.

Posted by: Eric | August 6, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Uh, there is no “disconnect.” Of course, improving one’s own energy efficiency is important. But, it has been shown that Obama’s original statement that proper tire inflation would lead to the same amount of oil as we would gain from drilling is false. It was also based on the false premise that no one inflates their tires properly. Obama also mischaracterized that he wasn’t promoting it as policy and was rather responding to a person’s specific question “what can I do” which I don’t believe happened (I may be wrong on that)
All McCain is saying is personal choices that lead to better efficiency are good, but are not a reasonable way to expect increased supply. It is a common sense statement and easy to understand. It is not a contradiction in the slightest. Now, the better off in four years, eight years thing, that was a little deluded, I admit.
Jake, you are a good reporter, but I think the senator slipped something in your piece of cake.

Posted by: Wade | August 6, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Yup – guess I must have missed something because I haven’t heard Lame Brain McCain offer any “specifics” on his solutions.

Posted by: Debbie, Columbia, SC | August 6, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

If I fill my tires, I save money. If we drill, Mccoil makes money.
If God had meant for Republicans to vote, he’d have provided candidates . . . .

Posted by: DAVID NH | August 6, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Geevill,
If you know better than Obama, then perhaps you should be running for president yourself.

Posted by: susie | August 6, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

Senator Obama and his campaign crew should go out, buy roller skates and skate board to get to their next campaign stop. Their jet flying across the country probably takes as many gallons of fuel as a thousand cars driving across the country.
Sometimes, this guy is unbelievable with his political rhetric.
Even AAs on news channel were shaking their heads at the foolishness of Obama.

Posted by: Mai | August 6, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

geevill I took my car in for scheduled maintance 1 1/2 years ago and dropped at the dealers, I asked them to check and see why my gas milage wasn’t hitting the 32 MPG I had been getting, on the highway and 26 MPG in city traffic. When i picked up my car the next day I was told there was only one reason they could find for my lousy gas milage, under inflated tires. I have kept up regular tire pressure checks twice weekly since and my milage is right on all the time. So stick that info where your conservative sun don’t shine.

Posted by: depravedmaniac | August 6, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

McCain admitted lying about his beliefs on the Confederate Flag in 2000. He admitted lying to Cindy about his real age until they got their marriage license. McCain got caught lying last month when he claimed he was a Pittsburgh Steelers fan back in 1967. Anybody who thinks McCain is above lying when it profits him is naive. Oh, and how does it feel to get punked by Paris Hilton?

Posted by: D | August 6, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

The best the conservative can do is attempt to be high school cut down artists, and that routine is getting very tiresome and lame.

Posted by: Ronaldraygun | August 6, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Yup,
Obviously, you make judgments unsupported by facts. You claim that Obama has no energy plan other than inflating tires and it’s only lately that he is introducing his energy plan. You make outright judgments out of hearsays. Why don’t you try listening to what Obama is saying first before making your ill judgments?

Posted by: susie | August 6, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Jake, it’s really a simple thing. You and the rest of the media have conveniently forgotten what Obama originally said. He said that inflating tires could save as much oil as *all* the drilling they are talking about. This is what the McCain campaign is making fun of, because it was a statement that is wrong by a magnitude. When juxtaposed with the original statement, the McCain campaign response is totally justified, whether inflating tires to proper levels is a good idea (which, of course, it is) or not.

Posted by: Buford Gooch | August 6, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Liberals want higher gas prices. That way, uneconomical alternatives become competitive.
They choose for you to you suffer financially so that they can get their clean energy vision….as if China and India will soon follow suit.
Of course, they’re nuts.

Posted by: notafool | August 6, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

Mike Wallace must be a real proud parent, know what a prostitute for ther Republican Party his son & Fox news are.

Posted by: Ronaldraygun | August 6, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

Paris Hilton has more sense than B.Hussein Obama.
He actually promised Americans we would break our addiction to foreign oil in 10 years.
And even more surprising—the fools in the audience fell for it.
Sometimes I wonder if they actually are listening to him, or maybe they are responding to an applause sign.

Posted by: riley | August 6, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

A rule-of-thumb for prudent individuals is not a national energy policy. You can be in favor of the rule-of-thumb on an individual basis, yet oppose an argument that suggests the rule-of-thumb should substitute or augment a national strategy. Barring a reason to believe that there’s a “market failure” in air delivery, there is no reason for tire inflation levels to play any role in the national debate on energy.

Posted by: Victor | August 6, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

McCain vs. McCain….finally he debates someone with substance! It’s good to see he’s not afraid to show up and actually debate – now that would be a spectacle!

Posted by: dan | August 6, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Obama said we could save as much energy by inflating our tires as we could by drilling for more oil. This is wrong we all know it, and it does not help us get off our addiction to foreign oil.

Posted by: mostfairminded | August 6, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

People are tired of hearing over and over again “HOPE” and “CHANGE”, I’m good he’s or she’s evil, Rev Wright, Rezko…….. The Republicans are actually putting humor into the campaign and it’s working. I personally like looking at Paris Hilton (thank you John)

Posted by: Time to walk | August 6, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

At least mccain is providing some good material for Leno, Letterman, etc.. You really can’t make this stuff up, it’s too good.

Posted by: pt | August 6, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Yup, better than John McCain debating a no-show chicken, who is afraid of debating.

Posted by: Atom | August 6, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

If McCain does not like Obama’s idea of proper tire pressure, then why does the US Department of Energy and NASCAR — make the same recommendations to save gas. McCain is “out to lunch” and should be committed.

Posted by: Michael | August 6, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

People like Geevill will believe anything that the GOP tells them. Time Magazine did the math, and determined that properly inflating your tires would save 3 to 4 times as much oil as more drilling offshore would eventaully produce. In other words, Obama is right.

Posted by: Patrick | August 6, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

MCCAIN IS DEBATING HIMSELF ? YOU KNOW WHY BECAUSE OBAMA IS ABSENT OR IS IT “PRESENT’. OBAMA, “THE ONE” IS OVERSEAS SPEAKING TO CITIZENS OF THE “WORLD”
MCCAIN IS FOR AMERICA
OBAMA’S ELITIST BUS IS ABOUT TO CRASH.
SOMEONE IS SAYING “BRING HILLARY QUICK!”
TJ, THE CLINTONITE,SAAYING OBAMA IS READY TO DEBATE NOW. THE “ONE ” IS COMING DOWN TO EARTH, THE POLLS ARE REAL..

Posted by: TJ | August 6, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

mostfairminded – Actually, what Obama said turned out to be about right, depending on who’s numbers you use. The point was that “all the drilling they’re talking about” is not the panacea that McCain is pretending it to be. It is not going to bring back cheap gas, any more than inflating your tires would.

Posted by: jock59801 | August 6, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

It’s not McCain who agrees with Obama, it’s Obama who agrees with McCain, at least today. Tomorrow, he’ll likely have a different opinion.

Posted by: MIssy M | August 6, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

Obama is not too afraid to debate, for you uninformed posters. He just does not want to play McCain’s game, which is doing useless Town Hall meetings. Lame-o. McCain loves those because he doesn’t have to worry about looking so much like a doofus as he does with a genuine debate — which is what Obama wants and does great in.

Posted by: Mykolas | August 6, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

Jake, why don’t you mention in the article that John McCain has been for energy independence since Obama was a kid in college. Funny how none of you like to point out that one of the few Democrats who voted for the Bush/Cheney Energy bill was the Great One, Obama. John McCain was one of the Republicans who went against his own party and voted against it. Sure would like to see some real journalism during this election. Obama is such a FRAUD, it makes me miss Hillary.

Posted by: josephine | August 6, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Is Obama running for Last Comic Standing? He is making a mockery of everything. Does it surprise anyone that Obama now wants to fully seat all the delegates from MI and FL? When it would have affected his lead, he didn’t want them to count, but now when he personally needs them, he wants them to count. What a politician!
I think John McCain is too subtle for most journalists. Of course it is good to keep tires property inflated, but that isn’t going to solve our energy problems like Obama seems to think it will.

Posted by: Susan | August 6, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

geevill: “I have kept up regular tire pressure checks twice weekly since and my milage is right on all the time. So stick that info where your conservative sun don’t shine”
There ya go!! Geevil proves it. Obama’s tire inflation plan is the secret to energy independence.

Posted by: notafool | August 6, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

TJ
1. Obama has already agreed to debates.
2. McCain has been absent from the Congress more than Obama this year.
3. When Obama was overseas, McCain couldn’t get out the message fast enough that he went overseas a lot too!
4. Obama is moving back up in the polls.

Posted by: jock59801 | August 6, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

geevil: “and by the way -air is not free anymore -it cost 75 cents or a dollar at most stations.”
You have to pay for air in the US??!!!!!!!!!!!
When will the Republicans start allowing Big Oil to charge you for sunlight?

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 6, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Susan
1. Obama never said inflating our tires would “solve all of our energy problems,” so why are you pretending he did.
2. Seating the MI and FL delegates a couple months ago would NOT have affected the outcome.

Posted by: jock59801 | August 6, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

McCain is neither an intellectual (fifth from the bottom of the class at Annapolis) nor honest–so intellectual honesty for him is a very strange concept indeed! This man lacks integrity, even to the point of suggesting that his wife participate in a nude contest. Currently, he goes where he can find a ready-made crowd; Obama is the big buzz who creates a huge crowd just by showing up. McCain is all worked up and seeking identification with macho crowds such as bikers. Some of these groups have generally been associated with criminal activities such as drug trafficking and prostitution. However, by such an identification and by code communication, McCain wants to translate working class authoritarianism into working class votes, with all the racial over-tones implied in the modus operandi of bikers. Unfortunately for McCain (a man of patrician background and privileges), he is so far no winning the working class votes. But his present antics shows clearly again that he will say and do anything to get elected President of the United States. In doing so, he has damaged his old propagandized brand as a maverick beyond repair.

Posted by: Dr. Sam | August 6, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Reporters were all saying that the paris/brittany ad was beneath mccain. I don’t think it was beneath this sleezeball, since he said he was proud of that ad. He should just retire with the wife he cheated wife while he was still married to his first wife.

Posted by: pt | August 6, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Actually the disconnect is between dirty Rovian campaigning and a confused, pandering candidate who can’t stay on message.

Posted by: Jim | August 6, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

Mia,
You wrote: Senator Obama and his campaign crew should go out, buy roller skates and skate board to get to their next campaign stop. Their jet flying across the country probably takes as many gallons of fuel as a thousand cars driving across the country.
Why don’t you tell McCain to skate to his next stop? He flies to his events as well. But don’t stop there, Ms. McCain says that the best way to get around Arizona is to fly a small private plane. Now who’s shaking their head?

Posted by: jb20084 | August 6, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Yup said, “It was only this week that he started to try to include more specifics”
That is untrue. In fact, OBAMA has had an energy since early in the primaries. Facts aren’t things you can just make up, or whatever spills out of Sean Hannity’s mouth. No, facts are facts. Obama has put forth a plan to spend over $150 billion on new energy sources, and that’s more than McCain’s plan. Instead of spouting off GOP talking points, why don’t you do a little research, read what the candidates actually have to say on issues? Oh, that’s right, it’s easier to let the GOP, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly do your thinking for you.

Posted by: AppeaseThis | August 6, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

The phony, Mr.-I-am-Constitution-Law-Professor, is willing to vigorously defend Bush and Cheney to not impeach them because he thinks it was “divisive”. According to his “Constitution Law prof”, Constitution can be put aside, for the sake of simply pandering voters, not to be “divisive”, to get a few more votes.

Posted by: Atom | August 6, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Hy Jake
You are growing on me !! ha ha
I think you are a shoe in for Meet the Press – now on to your question.
I am no McCain fan – but I despise Obama – ok with that out of the way.
They are both doing what politicans always have done
I cannot believe this is the 1st time McCain hedged since being described as the straight talker – we know for sure its not Oz’s first time.
So – while it is an interesting NIT to pick – discussing it won’t change the fact that both of these canddiates are capable of doing more than a man on the street to get elected.
The nuances you point out here are baby food compared to what is yet to come = from BOTH of them – But thats just my belief – Heck – PARIS looked more ready for POTUS in her clip (8-> !! just kidding – but you get my point I hope.

Posted by: few | August 6, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Implying that were not seeing the ‘Real McCain’ and that it’s all the work of his campaign team is implying that he’s not a LEADER.
We already know that he’s doing the bidding of his lobbyists. That has been clear for decades, most prominently during the Keating Scandal. And it’s clear through his campaign.
McCain is a soldier, he’s following orders.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 6, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

McCain debated with himself and the American people.
Obama debated with GOD. Obama is the Chosen One.

Posted by: tom | August 6, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

It’s funny how this all blows around like loose trash(talk).
Routine maintenance on your vehicle does reduce the RATE by which we depend on oil (foreign or domestic). It doesn’t reduce the dependency altogether. Obama was simply responding to a question asked as to what could a person personally do. The answer couldn’t have been simply “buy a green vehicle” as that is unreasonable to jump up and do. As this is fact, it was not Obama’s full energy plan, nor a part of it. He simply took it a bit further (maybe too far) when he said that it would save about as much as drilling domestically would produce. That’s just a bit far reaching IMO, but could be true, who knows.
Hilton simply echoed what many are thinking: drill domestically (which we HAVE been doing) while developing alternative energy sources. Scary thought, I know…

Posted by: xpsiter | August 6, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

McCain the true elitist. He’s far wealthier than Obama, he’s been going to classy expensive Washington smooze dinners for very a long time, wears $500 shoes, married to a high society wealthy wife, came from a well-off family that was well established in the halls of power, McCain’s as elitist as you get.

Posted by: Scotti | August 6, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

I heard about this when I first started driving, which was about 13 years ago. How is this big news. Keep the tires properly inflated and you get gas mileage. Not something I need to hear from a politician. How is this something new?

Posted by: Common Sense | August 6, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

The experts are lining up behind OBAMA on issue after issue. Of course, the Republicans have angered a lot of people these last eight years so people are speaking out against the continued lies of the Republican Party. Plus OBAMA is smarter and obviously does the research. McBush is just a pandering politician with his head in the sand and so what does he know? McCane compared his Harley Rally to OBAMA’s Berlin rally. It was a pathetic unpresidential performance and I was embarrassed for him. OBAMA 2008!!

Posted by: Perspective | August 6, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

McCain has generated so little excitement among Republicans that he now only does media appearances where there is a built-in big crowd. How PATHETIC can an old guy with old ideas get? Call the medical van and take him to the retirement center.

Posted by: John James | August 6, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Think you’re “disconnect” analysis is on target. I believe John McCain’s a fundamentally decent, but flawed man who’s been led to believe that the only way to win is the Bush/Rove attack and slime nonsense.
He doesn’t seem comfortable with this stuff…perhaps because the people doing it for him now are the ones who did it to him in South Carolina in 2000.
It’s kind of sad and real disappointing.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | August 6, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Common Sense
Nobody said it was new.

Posted by: jock59801 | August 6, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Jake,
For once I agree with you. McCain’s debating with himself over who he is. Mr Straight Talk Express vs. Mr. Arshole Who Will Do Anything To Get Elected. But as Obama said, it’ll be fun to watch to see which one comes out on top. Methinks the latter.
And by the way, you keep missing one important point Obama is making – tire inflation saves us oil and brings down prices NOW, not 7 years from now when McCain’s in the box before he finally gets any effect from his drilling. Heck, the way things are going with Bush and McSame in power, we might all be in the box 7 years from now.

Posted by: cmgmaggie | August 6, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

In Obama’a own words, “Is this the best he can do?” This is in reference to his comment about John McCain debating himself. Of course he doesn’t like John McCain calling attention to his inexperience and the fact that he is more a motivational speaker than a person prepared to lead one of the largest countries in the world. Obama is a huge flip flopper just like his ole’ buddy John Kerry. As soon as McCain calls attention to something about one of his platforms Obama conveniently changes it. It figures. He is supported by John Kerry, a huge loser, so it figures he is a big flip flopper now. I don’t know why the press isn’t sinking their teeth into this like they did with John Kerry. Obama is just a repackaged John Kerry. He is a marionette with strings, being pulled by the likes of John Kerry and Teddy Kennedy. What’s the matter? I guess it’s tough when you can’t go running to the ole gasbags from the DNC to shut someome up like he did with Hillary Clinton. It is incredible that with a country so disgusted, rightfully so, with George Bush’s administration follies, that people still cannot be completely convinced to vote for the Democrat who is running. Doesn’t this tell you something about how far off track the Democratic has gotten? They would not have had this problem if Hillary Clinton was the candidate. Even if people weren’t crazy about her, they would have voted for her, because she has the experience to follow through. So all I have to say now to the Dem party is, you made your bed, now you can sleep in it. I hope John McCain pulverizes Obama in November. I will dance in the streets!!! I was a lifelong Democrat until the powers that be in the Dem party put their own dislike of a candidate, Hillary Clinton, above what would have been best for the country, and which candidate could have gotten the Democratic party back in power. They let their egos and their tunnel vision get the best of them and now we have a mess to deal with thanks to them.It is no wonder that we cannot get anyone elected to President. I will now only vote for a woman candidate who I believe in, and I will vote against Obama and any of his backstabbing cronies, and the rest of the votes, I will be pushing the Republican button. When the Democratic party wises up I will return but until than, I am done with them! They are useless! They haven’t done a darn thing since they got the majority. They should be ashamed of themselves! It is like we have two Republicans running, Republican A and Republican b and in my estimation, it really doesn’t matter who you vote for in this election. Obama is outspending McCain 5 to 1 so you tell me who the true Republican is now? Go McCain!!! Perhaps this is the slap in the face that the DNC needs to wake the heck up and stop the nonsense!

Posted by: Mary Anne | August 6, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

McCain has to debate…Himself…
Hum I hope he does not go Blind doing that
Mcsame is such a shame…….
Maybe he will ask Pairs Hilton if she
world be his VP…Well
its better than debating himself or whatever… LOL

Posted by: Anita Yova | August 6, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

If my tires are under deflated, Obama’s brain is underdeveloped. He would be better prepared to be president if only——————————–.

Posted by: Martin | August 6, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

I feel bad for the people who watch any extremist. I have no use for the far left or the far right news people. Limbaugh, Olbermann, etc., etc. do a great injustice to the election process with their slanted coverage of events. What happened to the days when journalists lambasted everyone despite their own personal preference politically? We need more people like Wolf Blitzer and less people like Limbaugh, hannity, olberman, matthews, and cooper. They are a joke to the journalism professionals across the country. And, what’s more, they are playing games with a very important election process. They should be ashamed of themselves! I will not have any of them on the televison in my house unless anyone in my family wants to see the television kicked in permanently!

Posted by: Mary Anne | August 6, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

NotTheMcCainCampaign: “This is the deadly waste that Senator McCain will be creating with his planned 45 nuke plants.”
FYI…France gets about 80% of it’s electricity from nuclear plants. They re-use the waste until it’s largely depleted and then bury it in an area roughly the size of a football field.
But McBush is evil, so he will probably set up a system where he can do the maximum damage, right?

Posted by: notafool | August 6, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

My view, as a non-American observing from a distance, is that McCain is trivializing the energy debate to the point of trivializing his own candidacy, and — worst of all — Us Presidential elections (and the very Presidency to which the elections pertain). He seems rather like a Third World who has no respect for logic and reasonableness.
There’s plenty of those around. HE should be different — for Pete’s sake!
As I see it, amid all the buzz, he has roughly a 50-50 chance of being the next US President. Alright, let’s correct that to an eventual 47-53 chance, or thereabouts.
Consequently, leaders around the world must have begun to wonder — they would be wondering despondently were it not for the general thrust of those stats –if that is the same style (if style it be) he would use in prosecuting US foreign policy, and in particular dealing with world leaders who may happen to have strongly held opinions different from his. Will he seek to demean — and even to intimidate — them. Can he succeed? Will they let him? His first challenge might be Iraq itself, where the leaders are likely to call for a specific timetable for withdrawal, to be completed by the end of 2010. He asserts that Iraqi leaders will NOT insist on such a deadline — presumably if McCain in the White House, and presumably if it is the kind of Iraqi leaders a President McCain will insist on after January 20th.
McCain seems inclined, in a dangerously self-defeating way, to ignore Truth even when Truth stares him in the face.
As President, he would portray the US as mean-spirited and even small-minded — except that the US is so consequential in world affairs (just as China is about to become) that the rest of us can ill afford to give up on her.
What would await such a one, in a world increasingly interdependent and increasingly self-assured? Certainly something more consequential than Paris Hilton chide.
As things stand now, the world no doubt takes comfort in the unlikelihood of such a one — that is, let’s be blunt, in a McCain defeat in November. But does the world matter to the US? Of course it does. And if not, it should; and if shouldn’t, it will!

Posted by: Mauri Yambo | August 6, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

I wish all of you who keep using “the One” comments would shut up. The fact of the matter is that Richard Nixon has cornered that market. In 1968 his campaign slogan was “Nixon’s the One” and there is no indication that he gave that up to Obama or anyone else. Try history my friends. Its a good thing.

Posted by: Tommy Thompson | August 6, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Mauri Yambo “rocks” !
You are a smarter and better analyst of the campaign than 75 percent of the Americans commenting on this board.
Thank you for sharing from overseas! Too bad you can’t vote in the election.

Posted by: Mauri Yambo Fan Club | August 6, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Give it up, B0 – if you really do want your silly gaff to go away! Or could it be that you looking for McCain’s approval! Two gaffs don’t make a right!

Posted by: Beckie | August 6, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

McCain has a “dry” sense of humor. It is a little more subtle than Obama, so don’t just assume that he doesn’t know what he is saying.

Posted by: Susan | August 6, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Obama was offering a suggestion to someone in the audience asking how she could help save on energy costs today. Obmama, short of telling her to drill her own well, gave a logical reasonable conservation-type answer. McCain’s an idiot and thinks we’re all idiots too. Very tired of McCain’s horse and pony show. He supports off-shore drilling…since June that is…and before that he didn’t…for 26 years!…so by what right does he have to mock Obama for not supporting/supporting off shore drilling? And how does more drilling solve the global warming problem which threatens to wipe us all out? McCain’s an idiot.

Posted by: Scotti | August 6, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Mary Anne has some pure thoughts based on truths. It is good to know there are informed voters.

Posted by: Mai | August 6, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

Hey Mauri Yambo – POTUS means President of the US – not the World! Which countries are you speaking for!

Posted by: Beckie | August 6, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Just for fun, over my lunch break today, while driving, I looked at the tires of other cars to see if they appeared properly inflated. Mostly at stop lights. Anyways, I must have ultimately seen about 200 other cars, and not one – not one – appeared to have tired that were not properly inflated. These stats Obama supporters are throwing out there presume everyone has flat tires, etc. It’s obviously not true! I’m going to keep doing this the next few weeks for fun, just to keep proving this point!

Posted by: D'Obama | August 6, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Anybody realize one thing – Air expands when it is heated ok, so now people who follow Obama’s dangerous instructions are looking at Blown tires.
The only solution is All of The Above!!
Drill here Drill now
Build Nuclear Power plants
Build Windmills (which was opposed by Kennedy in Mass.)
The minute the Dems lift the law baning drilling oil will drop to below 100$ over night.
Flip Flop Obama does not like to be questioned, a reporter questioned him and the Messiah struck him down!!
The way Obama changes his opinion, means that he will not do anything he says if he wins.

Posted by: spock | August 6, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

Principal,
I have one more thing to say to you and than I have to go because I have a life and can’t be in here all day like you. Keep up the good work for the McCain campaign. People have told the Hillary Supporters Count too group that it is this kind of behavior that is propelling them to not just stay home on election day, or not just write in Hillary Clinton’s name on election day, but it is actually tilting the scales enough for them that they are going to vote for John MCCain in November. On behalf of John McCain, I thank you for your unsolicited help! lololololololololol

Posted by: Mary Anne | August 6, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

speculation without something to base
it on is a very fast way to lose a lot of
money…. Hey call your broker and
try it for yourself….

Posted by: Anita Yova | August 6, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

McCain is a sensible politician. He is not all about drilling, but as most people open for alternative energies. But one task is to drill and rely on new technology. It’s Obama who has flip-flopped from no plan, to “people must shower less” and now open for lifting drilling ban.
Next step is what Obama’s done all along. Now, as he finally has a defensible position – which by the way is similar to McCains issue, he attacks McCain on a bogus nuance. Postering and in fact gambling that he wins on style.
And when the politics are similar, guess what: Obama wins on style. He is stylish, likable and totally wrong to be a leader.

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | August 6, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

“So we complain about the sad state of affairs our country is in, namely our domestic and international economic woes but cannot shake our overdependence on hate and adulation.”
Just for the record, unemployment is near historical lows (the recent uptick is seasonal because employers won’t pay the new incrased minimum wage to students for the summer); we haven’t had even one quarter of negative growth; core inflation is about 2.5%; 98% of Americans are having no problem paying their mortgages (you know, the Americans who bought houses they can afford);four countries (England, France, Germany and Italy) have recently elected pro-American governments. The populations of India and China are also pro-American. Al Queda is defeated in Iraq. There has been no terrorism attack on U.S. soil since 9/11. Illegal immigration is declining.
If liberals hadn’t forced their dumskull “Communiity Reinvestment” plan on the mortgage industry, we wouldn’t have had the recent financial problems.
If liberals hadn’t blocked drilling for 20 years, gasoline prices would be very reasonable.
And if liberals don’t get their way, the resultion of Iraq will be beneficial to all parties.
Elect Obama and it will be back to the success of the Carter years. Remember those halcyon days?

Posted by: notafool | August 6, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Obama has now basically adopted Hillary’s platform. I hear he is now supporting nuclear power. Obama now wants all the FL and MI delegates fully seated at the convention. When fully seating them would have hurt him, he fought to keep them out, now that they might help him, he wants them counted. He is much more than a typical politician!

Posted by: Susan | August 6, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

jpt: “my theory is that Obama’s right in that there’s a debate going on there …. It’s about what tactics the candidate is comfortable using.”
I like you Jake. You are one of the few “journalists” who doesn’t have a mush-crush on Obama. But you are wrong about what the debate is.
The debate is about whether the country is allowed to criticize Obama. He says no. The country is beginning to wake up and say yes. McCain has found a way with humor to point out a few of the many painfully obvious gaping holes in the Obama mystique. Obama doesn’t like it.

Posted by: notafool | August 6, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

So, to all of you who think McCain’s foolish, mocking ads are going to work against Obama, keep hoping. They just make McCain look like a clown, and a stupid one at that. His campaign stinks. Wait until the debates. You will feel so sorry for the “old, white-haired, wrinkled guy” that you’ll turn your t.v.s off and cry yourselves to sleep. Oh, and that Sturgis thing yesterday, that should help McLame with his “base”. Real class, there!!

Posted by: geecee | August 6, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Republicans must love flip floppers because they love McCain, The Ultimate Flip Flopper. Flip flops on his own bills. Flip flopped on offshore drilling over a month ago after 26 years of supporting the ban. Flip flopped on taxes. He just goes on flip flopping like crazy, does anyone really know what McCain is? He’s a shapechanger. He changes to the flavor of the day as quick as you can say flip flop, doesn’t even think about it. Poor leadership.

Posted by: Scotti | August 6, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

The Tire-Gauge Solution: No Joke… Reports show that Obama (once again) was right. Even some republicans now admit he is right on inflating your tires properly and doing the upkeep regularly on your vehicles will help bring the gas prices down lightyears compared to off shore drilling. Go Obama, they are following your lead every day boo… You go boy!!!

Posted by: Obamaall theway | August 6, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Obama, give us some new ideas besides inflating our tires.

Posted by: al4mcattack | August 6, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

I disagree in Obama’s energy policy except for when he said, strategic oil reserves are for emergency only because I believe high cost of fuel is not considered an emergency but Obama has also changed his view on the use of strategic oil reserves. I am also surprised in the number of his flip-flops within the span of one week. He is now advocating the Clinton’s energy policy he criticized during the Democrat primary. Is this how Obama going to lead this country? I also disagree in his latest ad “in the pocket of big oil” because both him and McCain are on the receiving end of big oil contributions. In addition, Obama, not McCain, was the one who voted for the Bush-Cheney energy bill. Furthermore, it seems Obama and the Democrats are not consistent with each other. ——————————————————————-***Obama is becoming more confusing, the more he changes his energy policy.

Posted by: al4mcattack | August 6, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

The republicans have never looked so stupid to me. It’s like I’m looking at a bunch of drowning blondes who can’t swim and are trying to stay afloat by their implants. This is hilarious. I CAN’T WAIT FOR THE DEBATES. Mccain is going to give new meaning to the word gaffes…

Posted by: Obamaall theway | August 6, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

So Obama’s telling people something simple they can do themselves that could end up making a big difference–we need more of that these days, good for him. Everyone was asked to pitch in for World War II, and guess what? We won the war. We can win our independence from foreign oil too, if we have an active and involved President helping and encouraging us all to do our part. Keep your tires inflated and tune up your engine, and you’ll burn up less gas, save more money, and it’ll do a lot more to help our trade situation than just buying up more oil from Saudi Arabia and Russia, and more cheap crap from China.

Posted by: swg | August 6, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Only the Chosen One can cut the line and be President without having to make any contribution to this country or the democratic party.

Posted by: tom | August 6, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Obama ditched women’s right issues during his term in the Illinois’s State Senate in order to avoid controversy so that he could climb the political ladder.

Posted by: tom | August 6, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Can’t wait to hear how McCain surrogate, Hannity spins this and McCain pimping out Cindy in Sturgis, as I drive to work today.

Posted by: devilkev | August 6, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

tom – Do you have a point or are you just spewing out the current memes from the right wing noise machine (“Chosen One” “Tire gauge”)?
Yes, Obama was chosen by the Democratic voters to be our nominee. That is called democracy. Do you have a problem with it?

Posted by: jock59801 | August 6, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

It still amazes me that the Republicans after being in power the last 8 years, have the nerve to try and change the debate from real important issues challenging America right now and if not rectified will send America down the road of history like ancient Rome.
I for one want dialog pertaining to the issues, not lies, distortions, character assasination and Paris/Britney.
We should expect and demand more from our politicians. The I don’t care attitude gave America 8 years of Bush. We can’t afford to sleep in this election.
Obama 08

Posted by: Elitist | August 6, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

geevill,
Get with it. All the experts have already weighed in. mccain has lost this one, air pressure and tune-ups have a significant effect on saving fuel. And the air is free, you are just paying for the equipment to have it delivered to you, you can always use your own pump.

Posted by: pt | August 6, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Appparenty most Obama supporters were unlike the rest of us unaware they should have thier tires properly inflated. Look how impressed they are with such a well known old school tip. Change?

Posted by: geevill | August 6, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

I think McCain might have to change course a bit because the media is so overwhelmingly in the tank for Obama. It’s no secret. The media doesn’t care about objectivity. It’s all Obama all the time. That’s why a Rasmussen poll shows that the American people are tired of hearing about Obama. So, McCain may not be playing nice, but it might be what he has to do in this “in the tank” for Obama media/political context.
McCain 08! PUMA Democrat

Posted by: katherine | August 6, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

tom-
Because god knows that Barack Obama is the only politician to EVER do that. Good god, every time I turn around, Obama’s detractors seem to have grown a little more desperate, and are pointing out exceedingly feeble arguments as to why he’s not the guy for the job

Posted by: Henderson | August 6, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Also, it’s not that experts don’t agree with the air pressure issue or that McCain disagrees. But, it just “sounds” like a foolish solution. And, that’s part of getting one’s message out to people–not making it sound foolish. Why even make a huge issue of tire inflation at this point? It makes Obama look silly.

Posted by: katherine | August 6, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

obamaalltheway: “I CAN’T WAIT FOR THE DEBATES”
Obama can. He refuses to go do townhalls with McCain. Why’s that?

Posted by: notafool | August 6, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Automobiles after 1985 don’t require tune-ups. Shady mechanic’s will convince you that your car needs a tune-up, then when nobody is watching- they will over inflate your tires and tell you that you’ll see the auto is getting better gas milage when you leave the shop so if you believe in the “air theory” make sure you ask to see all of the parts that they replaced.

Posted by: squeakyfeet | August 6, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

pt: “All the experts have already weighed in. mccain has lost this one, air pressure and tune-ups have a significant effect on saving fuel”
now we know what a liberal considers significant.
Bush lifts the executive ban on drilling…oil drops 15%.
Obama suggests inflating tires. If EVERYONES tire needed to be inflated, maximum gain 3%.
This is called “liberal math”.

Posted by: notafool | August 6, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Obama:
“A light will shine down… from somewhere. It will light upon you. You will experience an epiphany… You will say to yourself, ‘I have to vote for Barack’ ”
Rev Wright’s man alright..

Posted by: Al Johnson | August 6, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

This is why Obama does so poorly in debates. he always has to have the last word in. Instead of answering the current question he frequently goes back to the previous question and changes his answer. he cannot let something go. He is losing badly on this issue but realible Obama must continue to hammer home that he is right or thinks he is.

Posted by: geevill | August 6, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Tommy Thompson:
“The fact of the matter is that Richard Nixon has cornered that market. In 1968 his campaign slogan was “Nixon’s the One” ”
You think Obama will follow more of Nixin’s doings?

Posted by: Al Johnson | August 6, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

A plan is a map of executable steps to achieve a certain goal. It’s different from a vision. The central question here is how much in what Obama has offered is practical, reliable and adequate. And it’s a legitimate question concerning Obama’s leadership rather than cheerleadership.
It’s easy to say we go for world peace.

Posted by: Julian | August 6, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

notafool, thanks for the response.
So we complain about the sad state of affairs our country is in, namely our domestic and international economic woes but cannot shake our overdependence on hate and adulation.
By mentioning low employment numbers as proof our economy is solid is plain and simple limited and severly myopic. Gas prices are fueling the economic debate between McCain and McCain, the mortgage crisis didn’t just affect those who reside in the “COMMUNITY” ask Ed McMahon and a well to do friend of the family who’s husband is a broker and wife is in Real Estate. Americans are paying a hefty price. Look at CA where a Republican Governor Arnold the Terminator is poised to cut 200,000 jobs and downgrade pay for state employees to minimum wage.
Then for you to travel to China stating they are pro-America. Hell yeah, when we have mortaaged our souls to them in the name of paying for a war that never should have been authorized and never been waged since the wages are TOO HIGH!

Posted by: clarity | August 6, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Obama VOTED FOR the Bush-Cheney energy bill in 2005 written in secret by Vice President Cheney and the energy lobby(that’s 3 years ago, he already forgot?)
McCain Voted AGAINST.
Hillary Clinton voted AGAINST.
Now, ist it McSame or O’Same?

Posted by: lamecandidate | August 6, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Obama, did not make a big deal out of this issue, it was the McCain campaign in typical fashion taking something out of context and playing dirty childish politics, to create a diversion from the real issue. Surely, they know this is not his ENTIRE energly plan. McCain has completely let his campaign sink into the netherworld of negativity and it’s astonishing how he has turned on himself and his values in the desperate attempt to become president. There is a disconnect between the intellectually honest McCain and the presidential hopeful McCain.

Posted by: J78B | August 6, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Obama supporters want you to believe he is unique, a new kind of leader, unlike all other politician, blah, blah.
Yet, when you point out any inconsistency (there are so many) the inmediate reaction is: “but…but…McCain!”
He’s not supposed to be like Hillary, or McCain, THAT’s HIS WHOLE POINT! If he’s not ‘different’ he’s got NOTHING!!!

Posted by: lamecandidate | August 6, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Gallup poll shows:
Whites for Obama 39%
Whites for McCain 49%
Blacks for Obama 91%
Blacks for McCain 3%

Posted by: Al Johnson | August 6, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Obama VOTED FOR the Bush-Cheney energy bill in 2005 written in secret by Vice President Cheney and the energy lobby(that’s 3 years ago, he already forgot?)
McCain did not.
Hillary Clinton didn’t.
What is it, McSame or O’Same?

Posted by: lamecandidate | August 6, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Saw the townhalls on CNN website for both Obama and McCain today. The McCain one was a some plant in Ohio and the crowd was obviously employees who where not enthusiastic. There were about 20 people standing behind him looking like they did want to be there. It seems McCain can’t attract a crowd himself and needs to go to places where an audience can be compelled to be there, like at work, or someplace where a crowd is already there and he can shoehorn his way on the stage, like that biker thing in South Dakota. No wonder he calls Obama a celebrity, jealous much?

Posted by: Rich | August 6, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

“The best the conservative can do is attempt to be high school cut down artists, and that routine is getting very tiresome and lame.”
That’s ironic because the Obama campaign loves to say the word “OLD” whenever they mention McCain. Like “same old policies”, “same old this” and “same old that”. It’s vieled AGISM, quite frankly.
Barack Obama is actually very immature when he pokes fun at people. Remember when he teased Hillary Clinton for trying to be an “Annie Oakley”?

Posted by: trustthesky | August 6, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

“Saw the townhalls on CNN website for both Obama and McCain today. The McCain one was a some plant in Ohio and the crowd was obviously employees who where not enthusiastic. There were about 20 people standing behind him looking like they did want to be there. It seems McCain can’t attract a crowd himself and needs to go to places where an audience can be compelled to be there, like at work, or someplace where a crowd is already there and he can shoehorn his way on the stage, like that biker thing in South Dakota. No wonder he calls Obama a celebrity, jealous much?”
It’s because real working class people are ACTUALLY AT WORK in the middle of a work day! Yeah those were plant workers, who else would be at that plant? Like Paris Hilton would say… “duh!”
The reason why Obama has bigger crowds is because they’re students or well-paid YUPPIES who don’t have jobs to go to.

Posted by: trustthesky | August 6, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

I wonder if John McCain will turn out to be the new John Kerry. If Obama can make the flip flopping unproncipled thing stick, he might just have a chance in painting McCain as that.
I do thnk McCain has made a lot of compromises with himself to run this campaign. Does he really want to go after Obama, the person, agressively. The ‘Is he ready to lead’ mantra might easily he answered yes. And I think the compromises he makes might end up with him looking like the Bush 3rd term candidate that Democrats want to make him out to be.

Posted by: markymark | August 6, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

Well at least McCain is man enough to debate!

Posted by: politicgirl | August 6, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

I agree with your analysis, Jake, although I think Sen. McCain is also having an ongoing “interior dialogue” about which Rovian tactics to use in trying to discredit his opponent without compromising his “integrity” too much. Or, to put it another way, McCain is trying to figure out just how much mud he can sling without becoming too uncomfortable.

Posted by: chuck | August 6, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

I just heard Truman Burgess talked to Sean Hannity. He did not exactly tear up Hannity as Obama said. He couldn’t even provide a direct answer why he is supporting Obama. Sean treated Truman well. Truman seemed to be a cool guy. Barrack Obama is a total coward. Why send Truman Burgess to tear up Sean Hannity? He challenged Hannity so he should debate Hannity and answer the tough questions.

Posted by: al4mcattack | August 6, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

al4mcattack-
Why should Obama even appear in the same room as Sean Hannity? What could he possibly gain by talking to a sensationalist that will smear ANY democrat over ANYTHING? The only person Obama should be debating is John McCain, and we’ll get to see that as November draws near.

Posted by: Henderson | August 6, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Here in California, Chevron has a radio spot saying that we could save gas by inflating our tires properly. Even BIG OIL agrees with this.

Posted by: bryan | August 6, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

McCain intellectually honest?? Why not start with his involvement in the Saving and Loan rip off of the Amercian taxpayer; and take a look at his military record while you are at it, you can start with the Forrestal..

Posted by: indc | August 6, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Wow. People STILL think Obama’s plan is just about inflating tires?
Seriously, you need to go read his energy policy. There’s a pdf on HP that’s easily downloadable. It has a lot more to say on the issue of energy, and guess what? There’s nothing about inflating tires in it.
If you can’t educate yourself before posting, you really can’t be taken seriously.
As for Obama stealing McCain’s ideas… thanks for the laugh, i haven’t really had a good one all day. That did the trick, tho.

Posted by: theMightyT | August 6, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

I’ve read so much crap on here about Bush somehow being behind the price drops in oil. Get a clue. Oil dropped because the number of people driving and flying dropped….PERIOD. It’s simple supply and demand, and the President, as well as Congress had NOTHING to do with it.
As far as McCain’s energy policy is concerned…it’s laughable. I love the part about 45 new nuclear plants by 2030. How? Please let me know. How are you going to get the money for that? How are you going to get people to agree with THAT much nuclear waste disposal when people already don’t want it? All the while, he’s making fun of Barack Obama and his energy plan, claiming it’s all about inflating tires. As with EVERY OTHER issue that has been brought up, McCain’s only response is to smirk, make fun, and act like a 3rd grade student.

Posted by: Henderson | August 6, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Edmunds tested various tires to see if inflation really had a significant effect on gas mileage. They lowered the pressure by as much as 8 psi and found no measurable difference in mileage – today’s tires have excellent rolling resistance properties even when underinflated. There is a significant safety issue at such low pressure because the tires can overheat and blow out. Net net, inflating tires won’t replace drilling, not even close.

Posted by: AmericanObserver | August 6, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Jake, your critique of Obama, while essentially accurate, is really parsing his words with a fine tooth comb.
This just serves to underscore the real double standard in our politics. The disparity in the treatment of Obama and McCain recalls the media’s treatment in 2000 of Gore and Bush. Namely, that the clearly more intelligent candidate gets held to a much higher standard than the less intelligent one.
Presidential politics should not be reported on a sliding scale. I, for one, wish the media would cover McCain more, so as to get the truth out about his gaffes (Sunni/Shia), untruths (see many of his political attacks), political misdeeds (Keating Five), personal problems (recklessness, temper, marital infidelity), underachievement (bottom five of Naval Academy), privileged upbringing (son of admiral), etc.

Posted by: Gene L | August 6, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

trusthesky said: “Barack Obama is actually very immature when he pokes fun at people. Remember when he teased Hillary Clinton for trying to be an ‘Annie Oakley’?”
Immature? I thought it was very astute of him to reference someone OLD people would remember.

Posted by: Broadway Carl | August 6, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

American Observer said: “Net net, inflating tires won’t replace drilling, not even close.”
Well that test would be in opposition to the EIA, the NHSTA, AAA and NASCAR to name the majority of those who say inflating tires helps. But the point was never replacing drilling, it was what individuals can do to save fuel and this was a patial answer in addition to keeping your engine propery tuned. Like so many other dittoheads, you believe that this is the sole policy of the Obama Energy Plan. Unfortunately for you and McCain, it isn’t. Read and learn.

Posted by: Broadway Carl | August 6, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

The amount of energy we would save by keeping our tires properly inflated is more than the most optimistic estimates (read: George Bush’s) of what we’d get from drilling in the long term (decades from now).
That’s the debate between John McCain and John McCain:
Reducing our demand by X barrels of oil a day will not help us achieve energy independence, while adding Y barrels of oil to our supply will. But X > Y.

Posted by: shiva | August 6, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Mr. Tapper,
McCain is clearly comfortable using the tactic of lying. He did so when claiming Obama refused to visit troops overseas and again while attacking Obama’s suggestion to improve mileage by inflating tires. He’s proven he’ll lie about anything –until he gets busted.
Only after Triple-A, NASCAR, and others publicly said Obama was right and McCain wrong about inflating tires did he flip-flop. Remember Bush’s tax cuts, amnesty for illegals, drilling, etc., etc. –it’s McCain’s entire flip-floppin’ career in a nutshell.

Posted by: Salvatore C. | August 6, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

McCain doesn’t want any air in the tires on which a discussion of the issues deciding the future of our country turn. He knows that the Republicans have broken through the rubber and been running on the rims for several years now. So, if his opponent tries to make a sensible point, however positioned it may be as only a partial answer, the corrupted McCain, these long decades separated from his heroic sojourn in the Hanoi Hilton, must ridicule any movement toward policies that would follow a rational path and use common sense to pull the nation away from his own party’s calamities.

Posted by: Joseph | August 6, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

> It’s about what tactics the candidate is comfortable using.
Agree.
How much insolence and sense of entitlement does the candidate have if he placed 894th out of 899 at the naval academy?
Would that same insolence and sense of entitlement serve him well now, while he makes tactical choices in front of the whole country?

Posted by: gmkuhn | August 6, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

McCain said it from the get go that this economics thing is not his game so why are you surprised. Have you forgotten how republicans mocked Obama when he said we need to start conserving our a/c and SUV use. Thats economics 101, hypocrites. Your ability to choose between wants and needs.

Posted by: bade | August 6, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

McCain has shown himself wanting to win at any cost. It’s no secret that Karl Rove is an “informal adviser” and that his proteges are active on his campaign. He and his family were certainly treated cruelly by Rovian tactics in 2000 and 2004. There were apparently no scruples in presenting his wife as chattel to a horde of bikers last week. McCain has gone well beyond “intellectual dishonesty” and into the Faustian. He’s on the Hell Express, not the Straight Talk one.

Posted by: kat | August 7, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Obama is comfortable using the same tactics as every other politician, what he is not comfortable with is getting called on it.

Posted by: pennsylvaniavoter | August 7, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

“McCain has shown himself wanting to win at any cost.”
I don’t see him reversing on major positions. Unlike Obama.

Posted by: mccain 08 | August 7, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am

THE WORST PART OF MCBUSHS “TIRE INFLATION” SCHEME……IS HE INSULTS OUR INTELLIGENCE. SUGGESTS THAT AMERICANS BELIEVE THIS IS OBAMA’S COMPLETE PLAN…..HE HAS INSULTED ME!

Posted by: VP | August 7, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

McCain ’08, are you serious. McCain said he wouldn’t even vote for his own bill. How is that not a major reversal. He reversed himself on drilling, he reversed himself on the Bush tax cuts. You don’t see these reversals, because you don’t want to see them. Stevie Wonder could see them.

Posted by: Craig | August 7, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am

A debate between Primary Obama and Election Obama would be even more interesting

Posted by: Norman | August 7, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

The only way McCain can win is by adopting Karl Rove attack-dog tactics, defaming the character of anyone who opposes him, lying and distorting, and generally distracting the electorate from the issues. He loses on all the issues (Iraq, economy, energy, environment …). So, we better get used to a very nasty Republican offensive every few days until this election is over.

Posted by: Martian | August 7, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

I think you might be reading too much into this.
The Republicans need continued support from Oil based industries. They are trying to depart with a gift of off shore drilling and stable consumption levels. Period.
We don’t need to shift dependence on foreign oil to dependence on domestic oil.
We need to delete dependence on any oil, one percent at a time.
Awareness measures like Obama’s gage/tuneup comment are powerful, and the Republicans know and fear it. My gosh, these guys faked us into a war over oil!
Notice oil price is going down latey? That’s because everyone is checking their gages, tuning up, commuting in groups, telecommuting, reducing trips, choosing alternates, just to name a few. Consumption is dropping, price too.
Republicans want that trend stopped; they think consumption levels can be maintained and create a price drop, thereby retaining more control in the future, thus the tactic.
Their economics are faulty, the grandstanding is shallow. Why keep oil at production at current levels when we know we don’t need it?
JPT, I think you fell for the distraction.

Posted by: damix austex | August 7, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Correction: McCain dealt with Rove tactics during the 2000 campaign, certainly not during 2004 when there were no Republicans running against Bush. It has been established that Rove himself was behind the South Carolina smear tactics with Bridget, the McCains’ adoptive daughter from Mother Theresa’s orphanage who had a seriously deformed cleft palate. She was presented as a part black illegitimate daughter. Now the McCain camp has Rove as an “informal advisor” and some of his operatives running the show. It’s chilling how hell bent McCain is on winning. Intellectual dishonesty as a descriptive doesn’t do the situation justice.

Posted by: kat | August 7, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Sir, you failed to mention that Obama said inflating our tires and tuning our engines would TAKE THE PLACE OF ALL NEW DRILLING. That is why folks are laughing their heads off….Something I’m noticing about the Obama folks and Obama himself. No sense of humor. None. McCain and his folks thought the Paris Hilton ad was a stitch (besides, she supports McCain’s energy policy). Obama seems to have the self-effacement displayed by Richard Nixon. Just think. Richard Nixon’s personality and Jimmry Carter’s foreign and economic policies!

Posted by: Portia | August 7, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

TE? Obama DID say inflating tires was a replacement for drilling. I heard him. So did everyone else. It’s like Obama claiming McCain supports Bush’s energy policy and tax breaks for oil companies when Obama voted FOR the Bush bill and McCain voted against it. Honestly, I have no idea how Obama folks can tell outright untruths so often, with such conviction.

Posted by: Portia | August 7, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

I am so exasperated. Doesn’t anyone remember why off shore drilling was banned in the 70s?
Do you really want a lot of people punching holes in a fragile continental shelf off the cost of California? I’m sure there are other places like in the bay of Mexico but really off the coast of California? Everyone knows that shelf is not stable and yet nobody is saying a word about it. If the worst happens what are you gonna say ..Opps?
Or do you just not care that it increases the possibility for dissaster? But hey less demand right?

Posted by: ric | August 8, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

Why don’t we put a ban on oil exports.
Nobody except the oil companies (and politicians heavily invested in the oil companies) benefit from oil exports.
In 10 years, once the offshore oil rig is actually operational, it will yield 200,000 barrels a day.
However, we export 1.8 million barrels of oil a day. So… if the idea is to lower dependence on middle eastern oil, why don’t we keep our own and use it!
Maybe because that’s not what the agenda is. The problem is, oil exports make more money than the sale of oil stateside.
Why would we need to drill offshore for 200,000 barrels a day in 10 years, if we can keep 1.8 million barrels in the country every day now?
hm?

Posted by: Scott | August 26, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

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