Obama Supporter: VP Pick Coming Soon
ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., said Sunday that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., will choose his vice-presidential running mate soon, but reiterated that it won’t be her. "I think that all the speculation is going to come to an end soon because at least we’re going to get choices before too long," McCaskill said on CNN’s "Late Edition". The Missouri Democrat said she talked to Obama about the process this week, but she still doesn’t know how soon he will make the pick. "I don’t honestly know," she said. "I talked to Barack about it this week and you know what he did? He just smiled." McCaskill appeared with Obama on Wednesday at campaign stops in the Show-Me State. She repeated Sunday that the Obama camp has not asked her to hand over personal documents as part of a vetting process for possible vice-presidential candidates. "They have not," responded McCaskill when CNN’s Wolf Blitzer questioned her on Obama requesting personal information. "I’m always honored to be mentioned," she added.

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The first to report tendency of media houses is just stupid. Everyday they ask the same question, amke empty speculations. When it is time we will know who the VP’s nominne for the 2 parties are. Now they have jumped on the Cantor bandwagoon- no more Pawlenty or Roomney. Gives other news Please.
Posted by: Sammysoa | August 3, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
duh! The convention is coming soon.
Posted by: Omentum | August 3, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
I read an article that said obama was thinking about embracing the boone pickens plan. I think it was at http://www.tboonpickens.com As far as McCain goes with all of his antics this week., I am sick. I really hope the McCain camp cleans up there act. This week has made me want to stay home in november.Has any one seen this video of McCain cussing. Wow what a potty mouth. http://www.mccanes.com
Posted by: Jane | August 3, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
It’s interesting that I think the process has come full circle. At this point, Obama needs Hillary on the ticket. He has to pull together the entire Dem base to win this. He can do this and shore up his weaknesses only by picking Hillary. With the race tightening up and Obama running behind the generic Democratic brand, Obama now very much needs Hillary. PLus at this point it would have an element of surprise to it.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | August 3, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
I wonder where Clinton, Gore and Biden are going to be on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Posted by: dl | August 3, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Obama is too arrogant to pick Hillary but he will pay the price. The Democrats have once again demonstrated to the nation that they are stupid, unprepared and divided. They cannot win the WH because they lack the sophistication, strength and tactical strategy of the Republicans. I will tell you this: If anyone chooses someone like Howard Dean who screwed his own Presidential bid in Iowa 2004 famous scream (They chose him because they though he was good at fund raising) if they chose him to lead the party, what does that say about the Democrats? That they would rather have a leader who can raise funds but assure the party that the WH will once again be lost to the Republican attack machine? Yes money is important but so is the right candidate and the country (Democrats) have said that they want Barack and Hillary (Actually the two got a 50/50 split in the primaries, Barack’s win is so slim, it does not give him a mandate to lead the Democratic party – alone) He needs Hillary, but he won’t pick her because he is proud and arrogant. There goes the WH in November to Mac’s gang. Go Mac, I will never vote for you, but I sure admire your calculations and the underdog status that always seems to work for you. You survived Vietnam; you sure can survive this bid. In Vietnam, you were dealing with torture, here you are dealing with idiots – the Democrats, my party which seems to have lost it’s path by trying so hard to make history without a well thought out plan!
Posted by: Emanuel | August 3, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Vote for the same crooks and party that has run this country to the groubd durinfg the past 8 years.More wars deficits, lies, lies and more lies and a $10/gallon gas price. I thought regular unleaded was less than $2/gallon 8 yeasr ago? Vote MaCain and the Republican or vote for change.
Posted by: Ugov | August 3, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
So, the big news here is that a senator claims she does not know when a VP will be picked Obama didn’t answer when she asked him.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 3, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Who cares who FRAUD obama picks as his VP – he will NEVER be elected. Obama is an Arrogant, Radical FRAUD – he is NOT qualified to lead our country.
McCain is a good 2nd Choice – and Millions of Americans feel the same way.
Posted by: Molly | August 3, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
I think McCain would pick Bush as his VP if he could.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Obama could pick a rocking chair to be his running mate and it would still be a better ticket than McCain and whomever he picks.
Posted by: Curtis | August 3, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
I still want Hillary for the Democratic party presidential nominee. Maybe McCain will win in November and Hillary can run again in 2012.
Posted by: Danny | August 3, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Hey Ugov,
The price of gas was actually still quite reasonable until the Dems took over the Congress two years ago. I’d challenge you to match the price of gas when Bush took over until Pelosi and Reid came to power and that price until this year and see how much of a percentage increase is greater. Who’s provided less leadership? Certainly the Democratic run congress, both Houses!
Hawaiian Dave :)
Posted by: Dave | August 3, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Whoever he picks, I wish it should not be Hillary Clinton because he can’t win anyway. Hillary, please stay away and come back in 2012.
Posted by: stock_craft | August 3, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
I just checked the price was about $1.90 when Bush took over and it dipped to about $1.50 about 2003. It raised back up to about $2.40 when the Dems took over and then shot up to $4.14 as of 7-7-2008. So from the highest prices with Bush and a Republican Congress, it increased about $.50. When your favorite Dems took over it’s skyrocketed by $1.64. Three times the increase. Who’s been better for the price of gas? Certainly not the Dems! Vote McCain 2008!
Hawaiian Dave :)
Posted by: Dave | August 3, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
That McCaskill sorry face do-nothing ex-druggy politician. She’s not fit to even shine Hillary’s shoes.
She can’t contain the hots she has for Obama. Dirty old broad.
Posted by: Mrs. Phoenix | August 3, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
I care less about Obama’s VP choice.
I voted for Hillary on primaries and
i will NOT vote for Obama in november
regerdless if Hillary is the VP.
What it matters to the american people
is the top of the ticket,and Obama is
unfit for commander in chief……
****************************************
If you believe Obama is “more” unfit than McCain, then there lies your answer. But, I truly doubt your sincerity from the onset. You are free to come on out of the closet now…the republican party awaits you.
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Danny – C’mon man. It’s over. She ran a lousy campaign, severely underestimated her opponent and failed. It was disappointing to me too. But a McCain victory isn’t good for her and it isn’t good for me or you. It’s time for this bitterness and hostility to end.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
ROBERT-
You and the rest of the Hillary supporters need to grow the f*** up! She lost, get over it and move on. As far as not voting for Obama…I don’t friggin’ believe that when the stakes are this high, you people will just take your vote and p*** it away. And people WONDER why I don’t like Hillary Clinton of some of her staunch supporters….un-effin-believeable…
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Dave – That’s about as a sohpmoric analysis as I’ve ever heard. That dribble you just typed isn’t worth the charmin extra soft you wipe your behind with.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
is jimmy carter eligible?
Posted by: kenneth | August 3, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
dave…
they wont hear that. ive tried it before. they still blame it on bush..
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Ha. Nice JimmyTMac
Posted by: Ray | August 3, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Obama & McWar are both UNFIT to be president…………………I back RON
PAUL for president all the way. He is the
only one who is telling the truth. WAKE UP
PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Sylvia | August 3, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
did anyone catch mrs pelosi this morning? again babbling about dipping into the EMERGENCY oil supply??!! does she think americans are THAT stupid??!! what the hell kind of a solution is that?? its not even worth my time of explaining it because it is just common sense!!! any replies from you dems about this brilliant “solution”?!
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
aside from just pulling out of iraq unconditionally, i support him too sylvia.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
After all these changes that he has made can you tell me which Obama did you vote for???
Here are the following principles that Obama has abandoned
+ FISA bill; was against, now for
+ Death penalty for child rape; was against, now for
+ NAFTA; was for, now against
+ D.C. Gun Ban; was for, now against
+ Public financing; was for, now against as long as it applies to him
+ Cuba embargo; was against, now for
+ Jerusalem undivided, was for, now against
+ Decriminalization of marihuana; was for, now against
+ D.C School voucher program; was against, now for
+ Meeting with Iran without conditions; was for, now against
+ Wearing flag pin; was against, now for
+ Kyoto agreement; was against, now for
+ Doing cocaine: was for, now against
+ Reducing troops in Iraq in 16 months; was for, now against “for 2 hours” on 7/3, now for again, on 7/3. Waiting for latest press release. This will change
+ Supporting the surge in Iraq; was against it, now on 7/15 for it and removed all traces of being against it from his web site
+ Delegates from Michigan and Florida; was against seating a full delegation now on 8/3 for it
+ Liquified coal; was for, now against
+ Drilling for oil; was against, still against. If four dollar gas doesn’t make him change his mind then what will, ten dollar gas??? Surprise surprise, on 8/1 he now supports off shore drilling. Why did he change his mind, the polls I guess.
I don’t know about you but why isn’t the news media asking why Obama is changing his core belief’s to get elected. If I were a Democrat, I would ask myself why is my candidate becoming more like McCain??? Is Obama getting elected more important than his principles??? I guess so. Another Republicrat in office
Obama is just like all the other politicians when it comes to his “principles”, he is a B.L.O.B.
Barack
loves
only
Barack
The true change that Obama wants, I guess, is in his mind……
If you are a liberal and can’t vote for McCain then vote for Nader and send the Democratic Party a message.
Posted by: DemNoMore | August 3, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
come on you democrats.. i know you’re still there??!! please tell me about your “leaders” ridiculous comments about taking oil out of the emergency reserves as an “immediate” gas price solution?!! come on, you can do it… someone has to be dumb enough to try this one
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Obama flip flops again on off shore drilling. He stuck his nose out late to see where the wind was blowing and realizes that the American people support off shore drilling. He opposed it before and now supports it. How can we trust someone that changes his stand on policies every time? He is dangerously inexperienced and cannot be trusted to make important decisions for the country. JUST SAY NO TO OBAMA!
Posted by: ArrogantObama | August 3, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Obama flip flops again on off shore drilling. He stuck his nose out late to see where the wind was blowing and realizes that the American people support off shore drilling. He opposed it before and now supports it. How can we trust someone that changes his stand on policies every time? He is dangerously inexperienced and cannot be trusted to make important decisions for the country. JUST SAY NO TO OBAMA!
Posted by: ArrogantObama | August 3, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Tim – Wait a second now. We’re sitting on quite of bit of oil down in the gulf. We don’t even have to drill for it. It won’t take 10 years to get it or for it to affect oil prices. If were to release just a tiny insignificant portion of our reserve oil, a lot of smart people are saying that it could have an immediate impact on the price we’re paying at the pump. I know it’s for emergencies but would we really miss 10% of 700 million barrels of oil? We could always replace it later. So let’s not pan the idea as if it has no merits.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Jimmy and Henderson, you two are the only bitter people and the ones that need to grow up. No need for the attacks and the nasty language, people are free to vote for whoever they want. You can’t forced a candidate wearing an empty suit of fake promises to people. But most important you can’t shove down our throats a flip flopping candidate that is so full of himself that is walking around like he’s the president of the USA. That is just plain disrespectful to the candidates and the sitting president, whether we like Bush or not Obama needs to act like a candidate and not a present president.
Posted by: ArrogantObama | August 3, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
ArrogantObama – Whoa Whoa Whoa. Have you forgotten that it was McCain who flip-flopped on oil drilling first? The same way he did on Immigration, Bush’s tax-cuts, the war in Iraq, Roe vs Wade, social security, torture and on and on and on. So my question to you is How can we trust someone that changes his stand on policies every time?
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
The Dems will sweep the congressional elections from coast to coast. If Obama keeps this up and I believe he will, McCain will keep it close. The only way Obama can win is by choosing Hillary as VP. He has simply not shown enough strength on his own over the last two months to look elsewhere.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | August 3, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
jimmyt..
ahh i was beginning to think i was going to get nothing there for a second.. ok, first off you say ” if we were to release an insignificant portion of our oil reserve”… what does that mean?! if we had a national emergenycy tommorrow, would that be “insignificant” oil? then, what exactly is an insignifigant amount?! 5 barrels? 1000 barrels? a million barrels? ITS THERE FOR EMERGENCIES!!!!!!!!! do you know how much oil this country goes through in one day? 20 million barrels. so, how much would that “insignificant” amount help?! are we going to “steal” 100 million barrels? equivalent to 5 days worth?! how would that EVER help gas prices? its like “borrowing” money out of social security. its there for a reason, leave it alone. that isnt even worth a band aid analogy, because it wount do anything. all it is, is pelosi acting like they are trying when they have no intentions on doing a damn thing until the election is over. i would be offended as a democrat right now to have her out there blaming the president for not “giving the american people their oil”. what a joke.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
I am not saying McCain is the best option either but neither is Obama. Most of my posting i don’t tell people to vote for McCain so i don’t know where you read that i was for McCain. There are other options and other candidates, and if one has to choose from these two then choose the one that is the least evil of the two. But i am sick and tired of liberal democrats attacking anything that doesn’t look like Obama. He is damaged goods also so get down from your horse.
Posted by: ArrogantObama | August 3, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
arrogantobama…
oh believe me, i deal with on a daily basis. im not a mccain supporter, but people just assume that you speak out against obama that you’re a right wing, mccain supporting, idiot. they dont stop to listen that its a lesser of two evils debate, and id rather spend my time trying to persuade people that obama is NOT the choice rather than mccain BEING the choice.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Obama Supporter: VP Pick Coming Soon
How do they know? When she ask Obama, he just smiled. Let’s see convention starts Aug 25th. So I guess it will be soon. This must be a Joke article.
Posted by: waggdogg | August 3, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Tim – I believe the consensus is that more oil supply = lower prices. That’s why we’re entertaining the idea of more drilling. That’s why Bush went to Saudi Arabia earlier this year to meet with the king right? To beg for more oil supply. So doesn’t it make sense that if we release more oil that we already have and aren’t using, it would have an effect on pricing? So based on rational logic, you can’t dismiss the notion of releasing oil from our reserve. That’s all I’m trying to say. It is a perfect solution? No. But neither is drilling for more oil simply because of the fact that we don’t even know for sure how much is out there. At least we know for certain how much we have in the reserves.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
you guys havent figured out that abc and all other media outlets are just over dramatizing this?! this article, yet again, has no importance.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
The only way to squeeze out Hillary from the nomination is to announce before the convention. If it gets to the convention there’s no way that Obama walks out without Hillary on the ticket. If he chooses ahead of time, though, it is a high risk maneuver, because if it backfires then Hillary may walk out as the nominee instead. I expect Obama to fall flat on his face on this one. The guy has no political sense whatsoever, other than the pathetic experience associated with Chicago politics.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | August 3, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
WestCoastMessenger – You’re making the same fatal mistake that Hillary made. You’re underestimating Obama. He’s a lot better politician than you give him credit for. He may very well need a lot of things to win this election, but Hillary Clinton is not one of them.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
jimmyt…
with respect here, you cant honestly believe that??!! ITS AN EMERGENCY OIL RESERVE!!!! the name says it all. dont touch it. its a classic example of government trying to do something obviously wrong to any normal person, and will end up regreting it later on because they’re chicken #### to do the right thing. what happens if we had an ACTUAL emergency and needed the oil? then who’s to blame?? of course, the GOVERNMENT!!! i dont know if you have realized this or not, but governmaent tends to screw up everything it gets its dirty little hands on. (the main reason i want smaller government) but you liberals, would be the first one to point the finger on SOMEONE else if we took it and then needed it for another hurricane katrina. supply and demand have nothing to do with taking oil out of those reserves. thats why we need to drill for every frickin drop of oil we can get. at the same time, starting on alternative fuels. or do you want our president to be the laughing stock of the world by having to go overseas and beg for more oil? im sure as long as its a republican you’re fine with it.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
McCain should be portrayed in a commercial with celebrities Wile E Coyote (falling off a cliff) and Daffy Duck (having an incomprehensible hissy-fit). Now THAT would be funny.
Posted by: Scotti | August 3, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Im totally sickened by the democrats and i will punish the party by not voting for ANY democrat this year and maybe the next three elections unless the clean up their act. Maybe next election they will keep it civil
Posted by: saddened | August 3, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Must be slow news day. No sh#@ he is going to pick a vp. But i hope real news stury becomes that the convention falls apart and they conduct a vote from the floor. Obama will be very limited it was he does for the next few weeks. He can not afford to screw up any more than.
Posted by: David, ny | August 3, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
sadly saddened, im thinking about doing that to the republicans as well. we need 4 years of chaos from obama to get the republican party back to the common sense party and not the sellout party.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Is it just me or does Senator MacCaskill remind anyone of the character in that movie “The Devil’s Advocate” that nurtures Keanu Reeves’ character as the son of the devil? I think the comparison to be really interesting since Obama is after all the Antichrist.
Posted by: Eric | August 3, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Tim – We can’t have a small government with so many Americans suffering. That’s kind of a recipe for disaster. We learned that during the Reagan years.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
i thought obama wasn’t a politician? i thought he was different, he would bring change, he wasn’t the same kind of person that has personified “washington politics” for all these years? it turns out the change he promises is just his youthful appearance and charming personality…..otherwise, he is as manipulative and conniving as the most selfish and successful elders in politics today….
Posted by: chris | August 3, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
do right by your children and our troops….support the only candidate capable of being the best President and Commander-in-Chief for their safety, security, health and general well-being: Senator Hillary Clinton……supporting anyone else (mccain/obama) to take on the enormous task of giving them a better future is a disservice to them…
Posted by: chris | August 3, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
jimmyt…
what???!! that makes no sense whatsoever. but why do you think we need a huge government to “fix all the suffering”? who made you believe this? time after time, government has proven to us, the bigger and more complex it is, the more corruption there will be. i cant make it any more simple than that. the government was not designed to “babysit” the american people!!!!
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
i can look my child in the eyes knowing i supported and continue to support the only candidate who is ready and able to be the best leader for him……if you support a lesser candidate (mccain/obama), i doubt you can do the same….
Posted by: chris | August 3, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
obama lemmings are the same as dubya’s robots
Posted by: chris | August 3, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Obama supporters,
Take a look at Chet Edwards from Texas for VP. He is one remarkable guy and I think he would offer a lot more to the ticket than some of the other names being talked about now…
Barack Obama / Chet Edwards ’08!!
Posted by: Davis | August 3, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
chet?! seriously, you want to vote for a guy named chet??!! only teasing.. lol
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Tim – I’m sorry. I didn’t explain myself. When Reagan shrunk the government and cut spending on social programs, certain things started to happen. Unemployment was already high. Then the crime rate skyrocketed. Followed closely by the crack-cocaine epedimic. Do you understand what I’m saying? When the government doesn’t invest in its people, society as a whole suffers the consequences.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
After all these changes that he has made can you tell me which Obama did you vote for???
Here are the following principles that Obama has abandoned
+ FISA bill; was against, now for
+ Death penalty for child rape; was against, now for
+ NAFTA; was for, now against
+ D.C. Gun Ban; was for, now against
+ Public financing; was for, now against as long as it applies to him
+ Cuba embargo; was against, now for
+ Jerusalem undivided, was for, now against
+ Decriminalization of marihuana; was for, now against
+ D.C School voucher program; was against, now for
+ Meeting with Iran without conditions; was for, now against
+ Wearing flag pin; was against, now for
+ Kyoto agreement; was against, now for
+ Doing cocaine: was for, now against
+ Reducing troops in Iraq in 16 months; was for, now against “for 2 hours” on 7/3, now for again, on 7/3. Waiting for latest press release. This will change
+ Supporting the surge in Iraq; was against it, now on 7/15 for it and removed all traces of being against it from his web site
+ Delegates from Michigan and Florida; was against seating a full delegation now on 8/3 for it
+ Liquified coal; was for, now against
+ Drilling for oil; was against, still against. If four dollar gas doesn’t make him change his mind then what will, ten dollar gas??? Surprise surprise, on 8/1 he now supports off shore drilling. Why did he change his mind, the polls I guess.
I don’t know about you but why isn’t the news media asking why Obama is changing his core belief’s to get elected. If I were a Democrat, I would ask myself why is my candidate becoming more like McCain??? Is Obama getting elected more important than his principles??? I guess so. Another Republicrat in office
Obama is just like all the other politicians when it comes to his “principles”, he is a B.L.O.B.
Barack
loves
only
Barack
The true change that Obama wants, I guess, is in his mind……
If you are a liberal and can’t vote for McCain then vote for Nader and send the Democratic Party a message
****************************************
Get a life dude or write a book or blog for McCain. Your long posts are boring!!!!!!
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
In 2008, there are still too many racist white Americans out there…that’s one reason McCain is so close in the polls even thought Bush has a popularity rating of 30%. However, I’m hoping that a few or enough intelligent white Americans can look beyond the color of a person skins and select Obama who would represent change. McCain is simply a third Bush term and 100 years in Iraq.
Posted by: Arlando L. Cantley | August 3, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
tim-
That “lesser of two evils” you speak of is a great crutch for people who don’t want to imform themselves on the candidates. I see it all the time both online and when speaking to people about their political views. It’s sad, really, that so many voters, whom are responsible for electing our officials, base their opinions on the talking points and 30 second sound-bites from cable news networks.
What we need in this country are voters with some f***ing convictions, not just people saying, with little to no knowledge of the issues “well, I’ll go with the lesser of two evils”. That attitude is why we are where we are in terms of a tattered reputation, an ever-worsening economy, and a never-ending military operation.
Anyway, this soapbox is lonely this time of day, so I’m done for now…
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
While American continue its republican created chaos, China is on a pathway to world dominance. Obama is the best oportunity this country has had in a while. Don’t let your ignorance and antiquated way of thinking ruin this country.
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
jimmyt…
wow, you just hit a very broad group of conditions there. first off, he inherited the unemplyment rate, and did a fine job with it. secondly, are you saying the crime rates are the federal governments responsibility?! i guess i dont understand that one. the war on drugs is a tough one. and still is. im not sure we have EVER had a president who oversaw a good tactic on this one. but not dealing with the border issue (which neither of these two knuckleheads are going to do) is only going to keep it rolling along. as far as cutting out social prgrams go, i applaud a good portion of it. again, a VERY broad subject, but it goes back to my statement that government was not designed to babysit us. the welfare program needs to be COMPLETELY overhauled and reduce greatly. thus having an effect on alot of other social issues in the long run. welfare is the most damaging domestic social issue we face. and believe me, i see and work with it on a daily basis. BILLIONS of dollars wasted on a group that will never better themselves based on incentive. so reducing government handouts, not only will save money, it will help produce a mindset. a mindset that the rest of america is NOT RESPONSIBLE TO TAKE CARE OF YOU. a mindset that we need to get back into place before its too late.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Okay, this is to EVERYONE on the board:
WHEN DID IT BECOME UNACCEPTABLE TO CHANGE YOUR F***ING MIND!? I’m so sick of all of this “he flip-flopped” bulls***! If no politician ever changed their minds, we’d have an entire government full of George W. Bush’s. McCain changes his stances often, so does Obama, Edward, etc, etc, etc. PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR MINDS…get the f*** over it!
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
henderson (if your still there)…
dont assume you know who i am please. i am well informed, and both of these clowns are a joke. flip flopping jokes. but just because idont support YOUR canidate, im uninformed. right.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Let me get this straight. Every poll tells us the economy is the #1 concern. The democrats fail to nominate the Clinton brand known for a fabulous economy. The person they do nominate evidently has followers so full of themselves they can’t even bear to put a Clinton on as veep to help with what will obviously be a tough race centered around the economy. Oh.. and yes the ultimate irony… Obama squeaked into the nomination telling us about his fabulous judgement and you can bet he is going to nominate one of his thin resume crony boys like Kaine for veep in the year of the economy. Some judgement. No doubt only the mindless media will cheer, totally out of touch with what all those Clinton supporters are thinking, because there were no Clinton supporters in the media. Clinton supporters were just normal people who value a good economy. Not sexy, not cool, and sometimes even caught being middle aged females. Everyone knows uncool peoples votes don’t count right?
Posted by: CapC | August 3, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Henderson, you are wasting your time trying to convince the morons on here who are voting for McCain. Apparently, they like the fu$King that have gotten over the past 8 years…….maybe this time, McCain will kiss them.
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
To Arlando L Cantly: Obama is that really you?
Calling white Americans RACIST and asking for their votes at the same time. Obama, you are shooting yourself in the foot.
OBAMA NEVER. Sorry but my family is biracial.
Posted by: Mrs. Phoenix | August 3, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Hussein Obama is now FOR the Florida and Michigan delegations to be seated in the convention – what the fxxx is wrong with this moron.
Hussein Obama should change his name to Fliping-Floping Hussein Obama.
Posted by: Rob | August 3, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
dmac1…
are you saying that anyone who goes and puts a vote for mccain is an moron?? its a MUCH broader subject than just voting for the president. dont go there please.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
tim-
I wasn’t pointing that AT you, man. I’ve read enough of your posts that I know you have the info. I was just pointing out the “lesser of two evils” statement that you made. I agree, these are not the BEST 2 for the job, but we stil have a responsibility to inform ourselves about them before we vote. That’s all that was.
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
It is not that Obama is flip-flapping, changing his mind, negotiating, wants to be on America’s richest oilman’s side, Mr. Pickens.
The problem is that Obama has no scrupples, no convictions, no integrity, no honor, no resume, and his followers are insulting goons.
NOBAMA
Posted by: Mrs. Phoenix | August 3, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Tim – The gov’t cannot just ingore the middle-class and the working poor. You may not agree with program such as welfare but they do help society as whole. Welfare keeps people off the streets. Welfare and other such programs keep people from having to commit crimes to survive. It may also keep those people from getting off their buns and getting jobs, but it’s a neccessary evil. Capitalism creates winners and losers. You can’t simply starve the losers. It doesn’t work that way, much to the chagrin of the right-wing.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
henderson..
ok, i understand. just a matter of miscommunication, no big deal. and i agree, but i guess my point is that how did we end up with these two?! i mean, these two are REALLY bad choices.. lol
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Obama supporters need to get over themselves, admit they need the Clinton supporters and do it in the traditional way of putting a close runner up on the ticket. I don’t expect this since Obama seems to have surrounded himself by the most devout immature believers I’ve ever seen who keep saying “we don’t need you” or “get over it” to the Clinton people. The people who need to “get over it” are the blind Obama supporters who think he won’t need all the help he can get. Yes “the one” will need help from normal people. Gasp.
Posted by: Llarson | August 3, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
On the Veepwatch front, nothing’s on Obama’s schedule yet, but the traveling press registration e-mail has us flying to South Bend at 6:30 p.m. Tuesday and not leaving until 3:25 p.m. the next day.
It seems seems like an awfully long time to be in one place. (Where exactly is Evan Bayh?)
Bayh’s home town is near Terre Haute, Ind. — about four-hour drive from South Bend. But South Bend is a nice geographical point between Illinois and Ohio, and just south of the Michigan line.
Obama communications stretegist Robert Gibbs says all that should be taken from it is that “Indiana is competitive and winnable for us,” he said.
Not that I care because I’m voting for McCain.
Posted by: tigg | August 3, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
okay Tim, pick an issue and I will happily debate you into the ground on it!
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Mrs. Phoenix – Ok now say something good about McCain. Tell us how he doesn’t have a history of flip-flopping. Tell us how he hasn’t gone back on his word to run an honorable campaign. Tell us how he’s so much different than Bush. Go on. We’re all listening.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Might I suggest that Obama and the socialist part “swing for the fences” and pick Osama bin Laden’s top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri. He’s still alive and would be the enforcer to the socialist agenda.
Posted by: scott | August 3, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
jimmyt..
i didnt say ignore the poor and middle class.. i AM middle class man!!! im just saying that while i understand there are “winners” and “losers”, both of those groups are MADE and not BORN that way. thats the problem with welfare. its a generational thing, that does nothing but hold those people down. (but its great for votes; coincidental maybe??) im not saying abandon welfare and its everyone for themselves (which i cant lie, would be tempting) but im talking BILLIONS of dollars are wasted on this program. its too deep of a subject to get into, but i see it everyday and every law abiding, tax paying citizen should see it as well. its not just the fact that we are wasting money, its t6he fact that we are enabling them to be the “losers”.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
dmac…
nancy pelosi saying that the democrats solution to high gas prices is to take oil out of the national emergency reserves.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
tim-
I’ve got your reason in 2 words. 1.)Cable 2.)News
That’s it…people seemingly LIKE to be told who they should vote for. I mean, it’s really depressing how many people vote for the (R) or (D) and not the person…half of the time they don’t even know WHO is running, and even if they do, they’ll vote for the candidate that gets the most airplay on the networks. It’s something I’ve been looking at for the last 6 years, and it’s the truth….sadly. Anyway….off to lunch. Back in a bit…
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Tim, that’s a small part of the solution, including offshore oil drilling, but the strategic objective should be alternative energy sources….sources that will Middle East
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
It has to be before 8/8/8 right? If the choice is, the expression a wet noddle it will lead to more questions. He has really only three choices in my mind. If he picks a Dan Quale, he is going to lose. Simple as that.
Posted by: joshua | August 3, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Tim, that’s a small part of the solution, including offshore oil drilling, but the strategic objective should be alternative energy sources….sources that will make America independent of the Middle East.
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Robert: Obama unfit? That’s your opinion. Personally, I believe that McCain would be a grave danger to this country. Just because McCain was a military man and a prisoner of war doesn’t make him “fit” to be president. On the contrary. He’s got a war mentality and no apparent ability to rationalize and that makes him dangerous. Obama will win, no question about it, despite you Hillary supporters who abandoned the party, and he will do just fine.
Posted by: counting crows | August 3, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
dmac…
you’re saying taking a portion out of the emergency oil reserves should be PART of the solution?! think about that again, and ill give you a second chance to answer that one.. lol
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Tim – I’m a middle-classer too and I’m feeling pretty ignored by the Bush white house. I’m still trying to figure out why he gave a trillion dollars in tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans who did not need or ask for them. Sure I pay a little bit less, I didn’t make out like the higher tax brackets have. I have yet to meet a rich person who’s grimmicing at the gas pump like I do every week.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Take a good look at Obama,,Mr flipflop,who would wan,t him for presdent..Take a good look at the dem party a disgrace to the usa..Who with good common sence would support this party,ahead of JOHN MCcain,,not me.. I hope all of Hillary voters will stick with me and go for MCcain..we need to show these dumb a== dem we mean what we say
Posted by: sue | August 3, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Claire McCaskill is another Junior senator who knows it all. She and Obama are very arrogant. McCaskill has even taunted Hillary Clinton who has more experience. I can’t imagine why anyone would consider her for VP position.
Posted by: stacy | August 3, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Mrs. Phoenix: What a silly thing to say. Methinks you doth protest too much. It’s more likely that YOU are the one who has the hots for Obama but you have a need to go around accusing a respected senator. A really juvenile statement.
Posted by: calista, ma | August 3, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Hey people get a hold of Obama’s new flip flop. Now he wants to count full vote for Florida and Michigan. Does he have any decency or respect for the USA and voters? This guy is all over the map of policies and rules. Wasn’t he the one that wanted to punish these states and kept pressure to punish them for voting early? Now he wants to include them full vote so there isn’t any damage to his reputation as a candidate on these states. What happened to punishing the states for breaking the rules Obama? You are a disgrace to America.
Posted by: NoToObama | August 3, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Sue – You know what they say. If you’re not a part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
jimmyt…
now you’re drifting on me.. lol listen, im middle class. i havent noticed an abnormal increase in my taxes in the last 15 years. im not saying everything is ok, but my taxes have not really been directly affected. now, do you mean “tax breaks” for the rich, or simply not gouging the rich for more tax money? those are two totally different things. now remember, the rich ARE the ones who create jobs. i think we have to be really careful on how much to “gouge” them. thats not to our outrageously high corporate tax rate in this country. too many on the left are going aroung pointing the finger at the rich and oil companies evern if their profit margins are normal and ethical. there is a fine line there that too many people want to croos directly punishing the job creators. stealing from the rich to give to the poor is, and has never been the answer. ITS A SPENDING ISSUE, NOT A TAXING ISSUE.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Henderson needs to take a chill pill or get your sorry self to another site that tolerates and want to hear your rants.
Posted by: NoToObama | August 3, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
sue, you make a good point.. the only problem is the republicans need a serious reality check too!! they need some time off from the white house to have time to get back to common sense.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
dmac1 and Obama zombies continue the attack on anyone that doesn’t support the empty suit Obama. No need to call voters morons just because they don’t see the light, they don’t bow to the messiah, they don’t drop everything to follow the ONE, Obama.
Posted by: NoToObama | August 3, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
The point I make about McCain is that this man is from a generation not even close to mine. Things have changed drastically since he was a young man, but his ideas have not. Nothing against old people, but McCain’s time has past. We need young, innovative, talented,energetic people to run this country. I don’t care about ethnicity… tell me how you plan to fix this economy, how to improve the deflated dollar, how to reduce the cost of fuel, how to end this trillion dollar war, how to restore American integrity through out the world, how to make healthcare affordable to all, a long term energy plan..not a tax holiday. McCain is my daddy’s age, and I love my father…but he is not the man he use to be..neither is McCain. Search your souls..I can’t believe you will see McCain as a better choice. The fact that we are even having this discussion or that the race is even this close is very sad. But, most people understand that there is always a game being played behind the game. I have watched GW’s administration destroy my 401k along with this country, and I can’t afford 4 more years of this. I CAN’T!! These are serious matter…..not whining as the republicans will have you believe. Read, educate, form your own opinions and ideas. Stop letting the media think for you.
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
McCaskil is a fawning sychophant and sets feminism back to the 1950s. Her presentation style is much like a sorority girl of that era, intimating that she is really tight with that popular guy, barry. What a huge turn-off.
I couldn’t care less if Jesus Himself came down to be BHO’s running mate. I wouldn’t vote for him under any circumstance, and at this point, I hope Hillary won’t be his running mate under any circumstance.
Posted by: Jo CHGO | August 3, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
NoToObama – Obama wants to compromise so that America actually has a chance to get the comprehensive energy policy we so desperately need, rather than let congress keep up with their partisan bickering and have America end up with nothing. Shame on Obama. And Obama, who said that he would fight to get the full MI and Fl delegations seated if he won the nomination, is actually keeping his word. Shame on him. You’re right, he’s a disgrace. We can’t elect somebody with a brain.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | August 3, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
If Obama doesn’t pick Hillary he will go down faster then he is already going….But i will still not vote for him… I would like to see Obama pass on Hillary and let McCain ask her to be his V.P …This would be the dream ticket .Then Obama wouldn’t get near the White House….Boy would this not upset the Obama campaign….Hillary doesn’t need Obama Obama needs Hillary.And if he ask her i really do hope she turns him down…
Posted by: PCC | August 3, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
dmac…
i thought you said you wanted to debate me “into the ground” on the issues??!! you quit on the first subject??!! you never replied on why pelosi and your democrats think its a good idea to steal oil out of the reserves??!! cmon man, dont talk smack if you’re not going to back it up… its a simple question, and you ignored it.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Tim apparently you failed to read my response. You must read dude!
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
dmac…
i know, but you gave an answer and i did a follow up to it and you ignored it?!
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
NoToObama-
See, the thing is, this site DOES tolerate my “rants”, and frankly, if you’re not interested in what I have to say, just don’t read it…I won’t be upset, I promise.
I’ll make you a deal….I’ll take a “chill pill” as soon as people stop acting like coke-addled children….
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Oh my,, Mr Obama should be tried by a court of law for lieing.. Surely he thanks we the people of usa are dumb..I was for him ,not any more.I see what he is,,but don,t know what he would do..My how can people who see how he has flipflop on just about ever thing trust him with our country..I was a dem.but this has been so bad I am ashame of my party..oh my GOD help the people of usa to wake up before it to late
Posted by: sue | August 3, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
PCC-
If you think McCain would even DREAM about picking her, OR if you think Clinton would even consider that position, you’re in lala land. I know if would be a strong ticket, but it will NEVER happen.
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
in defense of henderson, i dont really see where he needs to “chill out”?! he is stating his beliefs. dont like it? leave.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
dmac…
you’re saying taking a portion out of the emergency oil reserves should be PART of the solution?! think about that again, and ill give you a second chance to answer that one.. lol
*************************************
What’s the purpose of an emergency oil reserve? To satisfy an emergency, correct, which is a short term solution Tim…as well as the fairy tale gas tax holiday. Long term solutions: offshore oil drilling, alternative energy sources, innovative technologies, and conservation. When would you suggest we used emergency reserves? Don’t tell me this is not an emergency!
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
tim-
Thanks for the defense post. I suppose I should really start thinking about whether or not what I say could offend the fragile sensibilities of such wonderful posters…. *rolls eyes*
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Tim, are you there?
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
The problem I have with offshore drilling is that the effects won’t be felt for a decade, and moving beyond that, we need to figure out how to get energy from other sources. Oil will run out…not for a while, but eventually it will, and if we’ve done nothing to correct this problem, then we’ve failed as a race….harsh words, but IMO, they’re true.
I understand that further offshore drilling is an inevitability, but my point is, it would be less costly in the long run, and would be a better solution to explore REAL alternative energy….not this ethanol crap that actually magnifies the problem.
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Thanks for reiterating what I just said Tim. It’s ok to agree in a debate. You didn’t address the emergency oil reserve question.
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
It does not matter, in November the people will elect a president, not a celeb. President McCain in ’08
Posted by: carlson | August 3, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Companies that manufacture antidepressants stand to make a lot of cash of this election, especially if you support McBush!
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
The polls show Obama dropping daily in the polls. In November this will be the biggest defeat for a democratic nominee in history.
>>>>>>>>> John is the Man <<<<<<<<<<
Posted by: Abe | August 3, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
McCaskill is thoroughly unpleasant. It is people like her that will make it easy for me to vote Republican in November (for the first time ever). Throw in Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid for good measure. Obama beat Hillary in the primary but it was only because of the totally ludicrous way in which delegates were alloted. For Obama to have gotten a huge delegate count from moribund caucuses is ridiculous. Hillary handed his @$$ to him in Texas and got less delegates!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If only 22% of blacks had voted for her she’d have won N Carolina! Blacks, in any case, dominate all major committees of the Democratic Party when they make up only 17% of the population,not a good thing.Hillary waxed him in open and fair head-to -head competition. I could never vote for BHO, in any case, after all the Rezko nonsense came out.He’s dirty. That’s beyond any doubt whatsoever.
Posted by: Marty | August 3, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
dmac…
apparently you dont know what kind of “emergency” that its set up for. its there for events such as natural disasters or a war, or any event that would cause oil supply to decrease dramatically or to NOT EXIST! as far as i know, right now we have the supply. its not an emergency. its an urgent situation, but not an emergency. so, given the situation, do you think that it should even be a consideration? considering that we go through 20 million barrels of oil a day here? how would it ever have an effect on gas prices?! even if it did somehow, how long would it last? a week?! then we are left with a depleted emergency oil reserve? it makes absolutely no sense. its a ridiculous political ploy by the democrats trying to make george bush and the republicans like they “wont give us our oil”. sadly for them, americans are not that stupid.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
dmac…
relax man, i dont type for a living. you will know when im either ignoring you or leaving the room.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Tim, I have a question for you. No personal attacks. Name me 5 accomplishment that can be attributed to McCain during his 30 year stint in Washington. We’ll exclude the keating 5 scandal. Then, give me 3 reason why he’d be a better presidentthan Obama.
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
That will make two loosers running on the DNC ticket. Obama’s lack of an energy policy cooked his goose. Too many people under the bus…
Posted by: BR549 | August 3, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
yeah Obama has the brain to try and deceive the voters, he’s smart on that. We got better choices than Obama. As for Henderson you can rant all you want, most people read your first line and then turn away. We all have the right to post our opinion on here, with respect for others, just because you don’t agree with others doesn’t mean u need to attack them, I have seen a lot of that going on from Obama supporters in the primary and now looks like Obama supporters will continue to attack because that’s what they do best.
Posted by: NoToObama | August 3, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
dmac..
ok, first off i would have REALLY liked to hear your reply to my last post, but i guess you feel its over.. lol im not here to support john mccain. im not a big fan of his. all i can say is that he is the closest thing to a conservative out of the two. that person will ALWAYS get my vote. thats all i can really say about that.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
NoToObama,,sorry but if Obama win we won,t have a white house to get back to.I thank Polosi,Ted,Kerry,Carter are the ones who need a rest..Bill and Hillary are the only 2 that have common sence and they push them out there nothing left for me,,it will be easy for me to go for MCcain
Posted by: sue | August 3, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Tim, it appeared you completely agreed with my post. I didn’t see a lingering issue on the matter. What part of your post did I not address?
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
ahhhh, maybe the part where you said taking the oil out of the reserves was a good idea??!! just that part…
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Sue it is not all lost, just because Obama is going around acting like he’s the president doesn’t mean he will win. He’s just showing us his condescending arrogant side of himself besides his famous almost every day flip flopping of policies. Now i know Obama doesn’t beleive in anything in particular. Obama believes in whatever helps him win the White House.
Posted by: NoToObama | August 3, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Tim, first let me ask you to present the criteria necessary to utilize the emergency oil reserves, being an emergency does not qualify. Then, I will answer you question, and hopefully I can get a response to mine. This works both ways. So tell me, when can emergency reserves be used? Let’s establish a baseline first.
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
I heard that mccain is going to pick dan quayle.
Posted by: pt | August 3, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Emanuel, you got it right, my friend.
Posted by: Hillary Supporter | August 3, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Tim, I’m headed out for dinner, but I will retrun looking for your response.
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
I’m still trying to figure out why mccain confused the Packers with the Steelers last month while speaking to a Pittsburgh crowd. He said he used the names of the famous Steelers Defensive line of the 1970′s while being interrogated, too bad these guys weren’t even playing when mccain was being interrogated. He is either going senile or he was trying to pull one over on the Pittsburgh crowd, either way this is BAD news for mc-more-war. You can check out the article by going into google and typing “mccain steelers” and picking the first link.
Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | August 3, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
dmac… well, i dont have anything off hand to “prove” to you what the criteria for the use of the emergency reserve is. im sure i could find it on one of the fed’s websites, but i dont have it handy. but i thought it was common knowlege that it was for major emergencies that resulted in a severe decline or end to oil supply. i believe the last time we used it was during hurricane katrina. anyways, this is NOT a supply emergency. agreed? we are paying ALOT for ir, but the supply has not been disrupted. so take that, with the fact that it wouldnt be a significant amount to sustain a change in gas prices, it would be a no brainer. even pelosi wont give numbers on the issue. she just says “its the american peoples oil and george bush wont give us acces to it”. its just ridiculous, even as part of a short term goal.
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
NoToObama-
Who did I attack? I went after people whining like children, and those who came at me….that’s it. I’m not calling anyone stupid for their candidate of preference, and I’m not being a troll. If most on here read the 1st line and turn away, I’m honestly thankful, because then I don’t have to hear about how mean I am, or how I should move to another site or, blah blah blah…..
Anyway, the point of this post is that if you don’t like what I post, don’t effin’ read it. If you DO read it, and you want to discuss it, I’m fine with that, because I do post about the issues. But for god’s sake, don’t tell me to go to another site, or whine about me “attacking” people. It’s a political message board….tempers get hot.
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
henderson, apparently you’re the bad guy today?!
Posted by: tim | August 3, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
How much money is mccain collecting in Social Security? Is his first wife
still living, the one he cheated on and then went on to marry the millionaire?
Why did he flip-flop on the tax breaks for the super rich? Why did he not
denounce the hagee endorsement earlier? What was his role in the keating-5?
Why didn’t he want any cameras around during the bush fund-raiser last month??
Really makes you say hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm doesn’t it??
Posted by: pt | August 3, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
come on Hillary voters let me hear from you..stick with your word,,we must show the dem. they can,t choose our presdent-Hillary we love you but we just can,t let you get pushed out and not be angry.we can,t let den. talk about Bill Clinton and not get angry,,we have to show them we love you and Bill,,and we are more than angry..No vote for Obama never he can,t change my mine.I will black his name in Nov..
Posted by: sue | August 3, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
tim-
Looks like it. Turns out, abcnews.com isn’t running a f***ing day care center. Oops….was that too mean?
I’m getting used to it. I am, at times, a bit hostile, but who isn’t when waxing political. Oh well, what can ya do? As long as I know you still love me…. j/k
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
sue,
Hillary already said that you need to support Obama. She will also say this at the convention. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | August 3, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
sue-
I’ll say this yet again. You Hillary supporters need to grow up….quick. I understand that you’re frustrated that your candidate of choice didn’t get the nod, but are you seriously going to jeopardize the next 4 years of this nation by essentially cutting off your nose to spite your face? Read this carefully:
SHE F***ING LOST! Say what you will about Michigan and Florida…they knew the rules and they decided not to abide by them. Hillary has already pledged her support to Obama, and it’s high time that you do the same.
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Congress just passed a resolution that apologizes to black Americans for slavery. They are already getting ready to pass a reparations bill if and when Obama is elected. By apologizing, Congress is saying the US government is responsible, not the slave owners. This will make it a lot easier for Obama when it comes time to sign the reparations bill. NCOBRA, the organization at the forefront of the reparations movement, estimates that reparations should be in the neighborhood of $5 trillion. Rev. Wright is an officer of NCOBRA and was the main speaker at their 2007 National Conference. Many other members of Obama’s church are also members. Our country is already $9 trillion in debt, how can we pay $5 trillion in reparations, especially when there is no money to pay social security benefits past 2020?
Posted by: Walter | August 3, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
It all comes down to whether or not you think we should continue the bush policies. If you think the war should continue indefinitely, while we spend $10,000,000,000 a month, and you think that bush has done well with the economy then mc-more-war is your man. If you think that it’s time we start to get out of iraq and do some positive things for the average American instead of just the top 1% then vote for Obama.
Posted by: pt | August 3, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Walter-
The US Government shares responsibility, because they let it go on for quite a long time. Now, having said that, I oppose monetary reparation…how do you put a price on that kind of trauma, and furthermore, how do you determine how much the descendents get? Anyway, just wanted to throw my $.02 in on the reparations issue.
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Walter,
That is a blatant lie. In fact Obama has been very clear just in the couple of days since Congress passed this apology “resolution” (which carries no weight by the way), that he is dead set against any reparations!
Another McSenile supporter telling lies about Obama, gee what else is new? Hey Walter what shade of red is that neck of yours???
Not your OLD FOOL of a candidate, that is for sure!
Posted by: Davis | August 3, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Gee, I wish he would pick McCasgill. I love her howdy doody look with her chin and that straw hair.
Not only is she a dummy – she looks like one too!
Posted by: s. valenti | August 3, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
dmac… well, i dont have anything off hand to “prove” to you what the criteria for the use of the emergency reserve is. im sure i could find it on one of the fed’s websites, but i dont have it handy. but i thought it was common knowlege that it was for major emergencies that resulted in a severe decline or end to oil supply. i believe the last time we used it was during hurricane katrina. anyways, this is NOT a supply emergency. agreed? we are paying ALOT for ir, but the supply has not been disrupted. so take that, with the fact that it wouldnt be a significant amount to sustain a change in gas prices, it would be a no brainer. even pelosi wont give numbers on the issue. she just says “its the american peoples oil and george bush wont give us acces to it”. its just ridiculous, even as part of a short term goal.
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I believe Bush Sr. and Clinton both used these reserves. It all depends on your definition of emergency. I’ll have to see what rationale was used by the 2 previous presidents. The “experts” do agree that such use is a way of immediately driving down fuel costs. Personally, I think that $129-$150 for a barrel of oil is an emergency, and for many $4 for a gallon of gas is also an emergency, but the matter does have a subjective premise. I don’t know if that addressed the matter to your satifaction, but the reserves have been used during the past 15-20 years. I would assume both instances were for emergencies.
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Obama has to pick Edwards. Even though Edwards has a love child and cheats on his cancer stricken wife, I still think he will make the best running mate because he can help deliver the south for Obama.
Posted by: Vandross | August 3, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Tim, unlike most, I do appreciate your willingnes to address the issues and refrain from shallow and venomous rhetoric. Enjoy your evening. I’m done.
Posted by: dmac1 | August 3, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
@ Dave–I couldn’t agree with you more. The price of gas has Tripled since November of 2006. And there were times that you could find it for under $2 a gallon during the winter months prior to the Democrats taking over Congress. And if this winter is a cold one–people are really going to feel the pinch in ways they never knew existed when they have to decided between heat and food. Not that people aren’t already stretched to limit as it is now.
Posted by: my two cents | August 3, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Hillary now – Obama “Maybe” later but not now as he is a big ? mark. Consequently, my vote in November will be Hillary or McCain. Never for Obama.
Posted by: Phyllis/ PA | August 3, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Davis – You believe what Obama says to get elected? Every black commentator I hear says that Obama has to say that stuff to get elected. Rev. Wright even said that the reason Obama had to throw him under the bus is so that Obama can get elected. Grow up fool. Reparations is almost a surety if BHO is elected and you’re an idiot to think otherwise. BTW – Your full name wouldn’t be Frank Marshall Davis, would it???
Posted by: Walter | August 3, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Senator Barack Corruption Obama now says he wants the delegates from Florida and Michigan to count. That statement is two months too late. His popularity is going down the drain and he trying to stop the flow by more political pandering.
To a question by a member of the audience in Florida, he as usual danced around without answering, only blaming the Bush Adm. for the problem. The guy asking the question sat down just shaking his head. Seems Obama has no real answers to our problems except more hot air.
If he picked Clinton as VP, I still will not vote for him. Obama seems inept to me on all levels.
Posted by: Martin | August 3, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Obama is short on experience, supported drilling offshore only well after McCain to pacify Florida voters. He is wrong on the economy of taxing small businesses out of existence and raising the capital gains taxes, plus raising taxes in general in a weak economy, he is definitely cut and run and NOT suited, EVER, for being Commander-in-Chief, has little to NO foreign policy experience, has a weak record of “present” a lot of the time. What’s to like about this candidate. NOT much! At least he will have to announce his VP choice shortly. We’ll see if he has any better judgment there than he does nowhere else. Why the TV broadcast media follow him around like a small puppy is beyond me. He truly IS an empty suit, but in a sense, he is also UNsuited for the job.
Posted by: curtis41 | August 3, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Obama Bin Lying is about to announce his vp pick:: I be picking mr albert sharpten, he no wasnt to cut my nuts off so I be picking him and we wil have chitlins and biscuits for everbody yeaaaaaaaa
Posted by: Rosco | August 3, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
ROBERT-
You and the rest of the Hillary supporters need to grow the f*** up! She lost, get over it and move on. As far as not voting for Obama…I don’t friggin’ believe that when the stakes are this high, you people will just take your vote and p*** it away. And people WONDER why I don’t like Hillary Clinton of some of her staunch supporters….un-effin-believeable…
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I think you need to see a dr man..sounds like you are the one having issues with this. but then obama supporters cant face reality anyway. but you will when he loses in november because of his arrogant, holier than though, attitude..um, sounds like yours doesnt it..
Posted by: she will | August 3, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Walter,
It sounds like your the one that needs to grow up! For your further information Obama didn’t even vote for that apology resolution you dumb-ass redneck!
All you Repukelican losers can do is to try and damage Obama reputation and his character by telling lies about him and his positions…
That is because all of you McCrazies and die hard Sore Hillary losers have got an Alzheimer’s patient for a candidate. That Mr. Magoo old fool will be lucky if he even remembers his name come November!
All I have to say is watch out when the first debate comes you losers! When McSenile doesn’t have any notes to read from or isn’t in front of some phony Republican stacked deck of a town hall.
Obama is going to rip that old senile lying flip flopping fool a new one! Man is that going to be fun to watch! As your grandpa gets the floor wiped with his a**!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!
Obama ’08!!!
Posted by: Davis | August 3, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Rosco-
Any other gems you wish to share with us, or are you done acting like a racist buffoon?
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
she will-
I’m not the one whining about my candidate, now am I? Jesus, ever since Obama won the nomination….I’ll repeat that: OBAMA WON THE NOMINATION, I’ve heard nothing from Hillary Clinton supporters but what amounts to “HMPH! I’m taking my ball and going home!”. I understand that people are upset, but for the love of god, they’re acting like spoiled kids.
Maybe she should’ve won….but then, wouldn’t that mean she should’ve waged a more effective campaign? Could it simply mean that MORE people wanted Obama as the nominee? No…of course not. Their must be some other reason why Hillary lost….it couldn’t be her pro-censorship stance could it? It couldn’t be her “stellar” healthcare plan, could it?
As far as me being arrogant or “holier than thou”, I don’t believe I’ve acted that way. Caustic, yes. Hostile…sometimes, but then again, as I’ve said before, this isn’t a day care center, it’s a political message board…don’t be shocked when people speak(type) in a forceful tone.
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Hey McCain Supporters,
All Obama has to do is stick that old senile fool McCain like glue to his best buddy George Bush by November and that will be about it….
With the WORST approval rating of any president in History (even lower than Herbert Hoover), Obama’s job will be to show everyone A vote for McBush is a vote for Bush’s 3rd term!
The Obama campaign knows it and they are just being smart. It is too early to waste that kind of ammo. That fool McSenile is already shooting his wad and we are three months before the election, what a idiot!
Can’t wait for the Repukelican Convention when George Bush and Cheney make their big speeches and remind everyone that when they vote for McBush they will really be voting for Bush’s third term!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!
Obama ’08!!
Posted by: Davis | August 3, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Under Obama’s tax-cut plan, the working poor and the middle class will get to keep more money. McCain’s tax-cut plan favors the top 1%. If you like money, vote for Obama.
Posted by: AkaDad | August 3, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Rosco,
Nice one fool. Say I have a suggestion why don’t you and Walter go out on a date. You are perfect for each other, as your bright red necks shine right through your pointy white hoods…
Posted by: Davis | August 3, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Davis-
The problem will be convincing America that McCain=Bush. Now, while I would agree with you based on McCain’s positions and rhetoric lately, he was one of the only Republicans to stand up to Bush for the past 7 1/2 years, so it’ll be a pretty tough sell.
As for Obama not wasting ammo…he has to, and soon. Look what happened in ’04 to John Kerry when he wouldn’t respond to George W. Bush’s ridiculous attacks…he was decimated because he wouldn’t go on the offensive until it was too late.
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Claire McCaskill is Obama’s best choice for VP. So many positives, few, if any, negatives. I hope that smile she spoke of has a deeper meaning.
Obama/McCaskill ’08!!
Posted by: AnAmericanPerson | August 3, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
AnAmericanPerson-
McCaskill would be a good choice, but she does have her fair share of detractors. I’m personally hoping(probably unrealistically) that Chuck Hagel gets the nod. He’s got that “experience” that’s all the buzz, he’s got military service, and “cross-aisle” appeal. Doesn’t hurt that I’ve been a fan of Hagel’s for about 10 years….
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
ROBERT-
Do you have anything to say about Senator Obama that isn’t f***ing plagiarized from either a McCain ad, or a FoxNews groupie? Seriously, your posts are a joke…we hear that same crap 20x a day, and it doesn’t sound convincing no matter how many times we hear(read) it. Come with some specifics….tell us WHY Obama is unfit….REAL reasons, please….
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Why does Obama need Senator Clinton on his ticket? Why does he need President Clinton and/or Senator Clinton campaigning for him? After all isn’t he the “Great One?” Aren’t the Clintons vilified by the Obama crowd? Why would Obama want either of the Clintons stumping for him? Did he, via his campaign and his followers clearly and eagerly classify the Clintons, particarly, President Clinton, as racist? (By the way, wasn’t it President Clinton who appointed more minorities, especially African Americans) to federal judgeships than any other president and more than any of the four previous presidents, before him, combined?)
I don’t see the news media asking questions concerning whether any particular person(s) will or will not campaign for Senator McCain. Yet, the media claims Obama needs someone to add foreign policy credibility to the ticket; or, to improve his chances with white working-class voters, or,strengthen his chances among white female voters, or, to strengthen his economic credibility, etc. My goodness, if he needs someone to do all this for him, the question then must be asked: What does he, himself, bring to the table. Oh, I know, he brings the ability unique ability to plagiarize without anyone knowing he has plagiarized. No wait, he was caught plagiarizing, wasn’t he. And, it was the “Hope” speech he used to deliver early on during the primaries. To make matters worse, he stole the words from his friend, Governor Patrick of Massachusetts. To his credit, once caught, he stopped using the “Hope” speech.
I hope the Clintons stay as far away as possible from Obama and his group. Let him choose Sen. Claire McCaskill. Now wouldn’t that be a ticket? Everytime he belched, she would fall on the floor laughing. Everytime he made a decision, she would jump up and shoou, “You are so perfectly correct, Guru Obama.” Now that’s real change.
Posted by: Percy | August 3, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
I’m still trying to figure out why mccain confused the Packers with the Steelers last month while speaking to a Pittsburgh crowd. He said he used the names of the famous Steelers Defensive line of the 1970′s while being interrogated, too bad these guys weren’t even playing when mccain was being interrogated. He is either going senile or he was trying to pull one over on the Pittsburgh crowd, either way this is BAD news for mc-more-war. You can check out the article by going into google and typing “mccain steelers” and picking the first link.
Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | August 3, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
I am so HAPPY….is NOT her..THANK GOD !!!!
Posted by: Neil | August 3, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Percy-
The only people I’ve heard claim that Obama NEEDS Hillary are….*drumroll*….Hillary supporters, who have shown all of the maturity of a spoiled 6-year old as of late.
I believe that she would strengthen the ticket, but only with Democrats. I honetly believe Obama’s best move would be to pick Chuck Hagel…
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Neil-
I’m right there with ya, brother. . .
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Obama DOWN NINE POINTS since his overseas prominade…..
I though he said he did the overseas thing very well…
I guess not.
Posted by: Turtles | August 3, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
ROBERT-
This is almost to easy, but here we go:
1.)EVERY presidential candidate is an opportunist…yes, even McCain.
2.)I have no idea what your point about the VP not running was(specify?)
3.)How did he “manipulate” the caucuses? That’s a tough sell, and in certain circles, that’s considered slander…but I digress…come specific or stop saying that nonsense.
4.)NO candidate has experience “on the job” unless they’re running for re-election.
5.)He went to a church run by an idiot. OTHER than Wright, link some of these wannabe terrorists to Obama or stop saying THAT nonsense.
6.)ALL POLITICIANS CHANGE THEIR MINDS! This is human…we all do it…get off their nuts about it.
7.)How is McCain so much better tested than Obama? Let me guess, that POW line again? B-F-D! He wrecks 4 plains and spends time in captivity, and all of the sudden he’s best qualified!? Gimme a break.
Posted by: Henderson | August 3, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Just because mc-more-war was a pow does not mean he should be president. The guy used to have a spine but now is nothing but a flip-flopper and a panderer. He’s also an OLD fart. The real straight-talker, John Murtha said that the Presidency is no place for an OLD man. There’s a reason they make pilots retire at age 60. mc-more-war needs to retire with his millionaire wife. (The one he had an affair with after his first wife waited for him to come back from the war.) Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | August 3, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Turtles,
There are still 3 more months, a couple of conventions, and oh, those debates…
Gee, McSenile with his pasty death white completion, his bad comb over, his hamster cheek, crypt smile and his Mr. Magoo stumbling way of speaking is going to look real good on that stage next to Obama, right?
What a blowout that is going to be! Obama is going to wipe the floor with that flip flopping senile old fool!!!
Just can’t wait, for that first debate!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!
Obama ’08!!!!
Posted by: Davis | August 3, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
ROBERT,
Obama is an oppotrunist……
He run for president in time where NO
VP from the other party was running..
He manipulated the caucuses to win
the nomination…….
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You need to learn how to spell and to write. You are sounding just like that old fool candidate of yours…
Obama ’08!!!
Posted by: Davis | August 3, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Henderson
Your post is the best yet i love it when people question mccain experience over obamas and they dont respond, your post have great points yeah mccain might have been senator more years than obama but what has he really done thats so great and im not talking about his pow im talking about his time as senator from what i understand hes missed more votes than any other senator he was barley ever there!!
Posted by: ANGIE | August 3, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
It wont be Hillary unfortunately. Obama can choose who he wants he wont change the fact that he reversed almost every issue that got him the nomination. I also wish people would stop dogging Hillary, its not like Obama won by a landslide he barely got to the finish line. People complaing about Hillary and Bill not showing their support, umm the dnc and Obama deceided they didnt need them so they told them to shut up and sit down and they did leave them alone. If the ballot had a box to check none of the above that what I would mark in November. The DNC need to come up with a better way than telling unhappy democrats to shut up sit down or get out. The RNC are much better to their members, Ron Paul wasnt pushed out like Hillary was, and he has his own convention. The DNC is truly a tyrannical organization. If its not already it should be on the FBI’s watch list.
Posted by: rachel | August 3, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
RACHEL
CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW HILLARY WAS PUSHED OUT AND GIVE US FACTS PLEASE???
Posted by: ANGIE | August 3, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
To all the Hillary supporters that are considering a defections to McCain. Please do a web search on the jokes he has made on women, rape and homophobic topics. You will be running counter to everything Hillary represents in voting McCain.
Posted by: Rick_VT | August 3, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
I will never for Osama. He is a balony.
Posted by: cj | August 3, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
I just wish the hillary supporters will explain how they feel hillary was thrown out or treated unfairly by the Dnc,And why they feel obama stole it from her. Why is it because some super delegates endorsed obama and not her?? Where they all suppose to endorse hillary??????
Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | August 3, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
obama is an Arrogant Radical FRAUD!!!
He is NOT qualified to lead our country – I will NOT vote for him and Millions of Americans feel the same way. His latest on “count the votes” in FL & MI is a disgrace to ALL voters.
The people in FL & MI together with the Millions of Hillary supporters will Remember in November – and our votes will count!
Posted by: Molly | August 3, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
The “Hillary supporters” are republicans trying to muddy the waters. She moved on, and do you really think women would support or vote for someone so against their issues. No, the people here that “claim” to be Hillary supporters and voting for McCain are republicans in drag.
Posted by: JR | August 3, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
I feel the same
there should be a place, a blog something that we can all sign and show our support to Hillary and pull the votes up for her.
someone out there must be able to do this for all to see
this is not the time for Obama
I second this
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I care less about Obama’s VP choice.
I voted for Hillary on primaries and
i will NOT vote for Obama in november
regerdless if Hillary is the VP.
What it matters to the american people
is the top of the ticket,and Obama is
unfit for commander in chief……
Posted by: Michelle | August 3, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
How many PUMAs does it take to change a light bulb?
Just one.
How many PUMAs does it take to repetitively post the exact same comment on over one thousand message boards?
Regrettably, still just one.
Posted by: Mr. X | August 3, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Angie, since the middle of feb, the press and the dnc continued to say she had no chance of winning which was not entirely true. About a week before the last primary Pelosi and other DNC memebers called superdelegates to demand they make a decison(which they really had a right to hold off until the convention) and you know as well as I know who pelosi and dean were for. Pelosi especially threatened to step in if Hillary threatened to go to the convention. I think her word were I can’t allow that to happen. Hillary had the right to take to the floor if she wanted to. I want someone to answer me this now though. Now that Obama wants to okay seating of all florida and michaign delegates, why did he not do this during the primaries? I mean the Media, Obama’s camp all said Hillary had no chance of winning even with these votes so whats the difference between now and then?
Posted by: rachel | August 3, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Seems the republican trolls are at it tonight claiming to be hillary supporters no hillary supporter i know specially women that are voting mccain after they have done their research on him and his stances on woman and his voting record on womans rights no way in h– are they voting for him they will vote for obama their not happy about it but they will never vote mccain!!!!!!!
Posted by: ANGIE | August 3, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Robert: nobody actually believes that you are a hillary supporter who is voting for mccain. Thanks for the laugh though.
Posted by: mark893 | August 3, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
RACHEL
First of all hillary would of never have taken it too the floor that would of been political suicide, Second I dont recall anyone saying she couldnt win, Third that was the dnc rules for fl and mi not obamas rules. obama did not stop them from being seated the dnc did they broke the rules, And hillary didnt seem to mind in the begining she even stated their vote would not count. and her name was the only one on the ballot in mi so if someone wanted to vote for edwards or obama they couldnt is that fair? As far as obama saying now to seat them maybe its not a bad thing the super delegates might change their mind and hillary will end up the nomoniee afterall, but I dont think its fair to keep blaming obama he didnt make the rules!!
Posted by: ANGIE | August 3, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Angie you are right, as I a woman I couldnt find it within myself to vote for McCain, but you were you are mistaken is thinking that if my vote doesnt go to McCain it must go to Obama. That is wrong. I have yet to settle on whether to vote 3rd party or stay home. I am not voting McCain but that doesnt mean I am voting Obama.
Posted by: rachel | August 3, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Who cares! He is not going to win anyhow, besides that he is not even elected as a nominee and until the convention is over. He was selected!
Posted by: peaches | August 3, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Hillary Dems – we’ve lost some -The al gore lost really hurt – and I know this hurts – and it is hard to move on but you have to let go and think about what is good for the country – and it is certainly not 19th century deceptive 2-faced John McCain who manages to make soldiers think he’s all for them and has voted against every bill that would further enhance their lives – and who finished 5th from last at the military academy with a silver spoon in his mouth just like Bush. . . He’s the elitist – and who said that the public housing was extraordinary – OMG – please visit the inner cities in this country – they’re like war zones completely ostracised from society.
Any democrat who gets sucked into the Barack Obama charges made by the republican politicians ie arrogance, elitist and inexperienced and you know. . . why you don’t like him, etc. etc. Shame on you! Previous famous Presidents have had very little Washington experience and have been quite successful. This is not just about history or you as this is what the press is saying – this is about winning the white house and preparing for our children’s future and for this country -You’re falling right into the Republican’s playbook – and by the way, they were waiting to slaughter Hillary with Whitewater and a bunch of other crap – Remember they think us dems are too stupid/unsophisticated to win because we don’t fight dirty like them. Let’s show them who is smartest – Obama is not arrogant – just smart – he was raised in the white community not the black community – he acts like a free man – like you – Are you arrogant? Get behind him Dems – he really needs you – He won the nomination fair and square – Please help put a Dem in the White House! You will be proud of his
Cabinet, leaders and military commanders.
Posted by: Evelyn | August 3, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Angie are you kidding me it was all over the news and from Obama camps Hillary cant deny the math, the math doesnt add up for hillary, thats all people were talking about and Hillary still won one of the last primaries. I am not saying that Hillary would have taken to the floor but Pelosi threat and the pressure on the superdelgate were forcing a hand. The only reason Obama working for seating the delegates is because he knows its doesnt matter he has the nomination. The nominees had the opition of leaving their names on the ballot, its not Hillary’s fault people still came to vote for her even though they were told it wouldnt count. Also I listened to a variey of radio station geared toward us african americans and they were urged to vote non committed and it would count for Obama so there was nothing stopping them from going to vote. I am not totally placing blame on Obama heck he and Hillary were both playing to win, I just cringe at his notion that he is a different type of politican he is the same as any politican that has been in washington since the begining.
Posted by: rachel | August 3, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
I wouldn’t count Obama out. Just look at the electoral map. And the convention is only a formality. He is the nominee.
Posted by: erin | August 3, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
RACHEL
you have that right and im glad with you being a woman you have made the choice not to vote for mccain,But dont you think obama and hillarys policies are pretty similiar maybe not exact but close and i can tell you she may not be his vp but she will be part of his administration somewhere somehow but the choice is yours and i respect that.
Posted by: ANGIE | August 3, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
RACHEL
the math was against her and the reason they were pushing the delegates is because she was pushing and pushing for fl and mi to get seated and they couldnt they BROKE THE RULES same thing if your children broke the rules you dont reward them you have to admit hillary got very bitter when the math was going against her, She kept crying the popular vote the popular vote but that is not how the primaries work. They never have in the past so what your saying is they had to change the rules for hillary????????
Posted by: ANGIE | August 3, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Ok Liberal Dems – beware of the Nader gang who is working very hard to still your vote from Senator Obama – Senator Obama has not changed his position on issues – he is assessing our current situation which is what a true leader should do – and our economic situation has changed since he started his presidential campaign – particularly on off-shore drilling – he is totally pro alternative energy but have always said that we should do anything we can at home and if it includes off shore drilling as long as the environment and economy was protected then it should be considered -When Senator Obama began his campaign gas prices were not at $4.00 to $5.00 per gallon -
In regards to the snoop bill – Obama must have found out that we have been very successful in catching terrorist this way – let’s be practical and reasonable and trust our nominee – because remember …. once he’s sworn into office, this bill can be tweeked even more – Be smart guys! We do want to catch those who want to harm us don’t we??
Posted by: Evelyn | August 3, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Angie, it seems some of Obama supporters think that Hillary will be in his cabinet, I am not sure of that. I think that if Obama wins this election Obama will keep her in the senate or if she loses her senate seat she will be put out to pasture.(as beign past 50 is just not cool) I can respect your choice in Obama because lord knows we do need a change, I am just not sure what change we will get. I can admit that many of Hillary and Obama’s polices were identical, but Obama has waved on some of those like wire tapping. I also am upset that Obama dogged Hillary about her healthcare plan but acknowledges he has adopted part of it. To be really honest I cant seem to get over the fact that its okay for Obama to call his grandma a typically white person, but its not okay for hillary to say LBJ helped with the civil rights movement bill to say that Jesse Jackson won south carolina. If someone could explain how that is okay maybe I could get past it, but until I will be like many of Hillary’s african american supporters labeled an uncle tom because I dont beleive in hypcorisy.
Posted by: rachel | August 3, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Watch out Indiana.
Here comes VP Bayh.
Posted by: Chad | August 3, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
No, Angie I am not saying they have to change the rules for Hillary. I am now asking whats the difference between now and the primaries? Why is he now willing to seat the delegates when he had a lawyer fight against seating them during the primaries. The rules were still broken right? And if the math was against her even with the michigan and florida why not just seat them anyway during the primaries? Pelosi and many other DNC memembers pretended to be undecieded but we know they were deceided and they called superdelegates to put pressue on them. Can you tell me why Ron paul didnt get this type of treament from RNC he is doing his own convention and the rnc is not calling for his head on plate, yet Hillary delegates who mention they are thinking of voting for mccain are getting unseated.
Posted by: rachel | August 3, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
RACHEL
yes we do need a change and i feel obama will bring it, like ending the war, healthcare, taxes education etc the grandmother thing was taking out of content with him by fox news obamas grandmother was racisit and did not like black people probably because obamas father left his mother which was her daughter whatever the reason, Obama is not RACIST and i think he did not like that part about his grandma,As far as hillarys healthcare plan he will be able as president to work with her and im telling you she will be part of that administration, Obama is not stupid and no he is not god HE IS A POLITICAN he knows hillary has alot of supporters look all i am saying if it were the other way around and hillary won i would vote for her i wouldnt be happy about it because obama is my choice but i wouldnt sit home or waste my vote on a third party i would vote for her SO MCCAIN DOES NOT GET IN THAT WHITE HOUSE MCCAIN IS VERY DANGEROUS HES SCARY TOO OBSESSED WITH WAR one more thing on the fisa bill its not final it still has to goto the courts and if obama becomes president he will have the power to change it, you have to remember obama running for potus he had to do what he had to with fisa.
Posted by: ANGIE | August 3, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
RACHEL
politicts are politicts and you know i dont even belong to a party im independent sometimes i get so sick of the repubs and the dems bickering and fighting over the issuses they need to start learning to compromise, americans are suffering and their going back and forth like children i understand the dems in congress has had it rough with that my way or the highway bush veto everything i think thats why i like obama so much he seems like hes willing to compromise and work across the isle to help the people mccain will be my way or the highway JUST LIKE BUSH we dont need that anymore and i think that is one of the kind of change obama will bring.
Posted by: ANGIE | August 4, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
I feel sorry for Obama’s VP Pick.
They will have to be a person with some guts, and thick Skin.
Anything that goes wrong, Obama will blame them.
If Obama does not win, he will blame them.
Everyone knows Obama does not accept any responsibility for himself. His blame game has been an on going thing through his campaign.
That poor soul who takes on that task.
Posted by: seah | August 4, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
RACHEL
just look at what the gop is doing to obama look at the dirty things their doing can you just imangine what they would be doing to the clintons with their baggage bills affair, their court for the money scandel, maybe the super dels knows things we dont and im not putting the clintons down im just stating facts
Posted by: ANGIE | August 4, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Doesn’t matter who Obama picks. He’ll win regardless. McCain is unfit to be President and a fraud.
Posted by: Iraq Vet | August 4, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
Even now it is evident Hillary cannot control her “Hippy Fans”. Imagine how she would control the USA?? She spread diversity into her campaign the year and a half she was out on the road. What do you expect from a Clinton? She is a disgrace to the Party and to her own following. Now you can understand why she is not the nominee. She is very nervous she will not get re-elected to the Senate, and she won’t! Those New Yorkers can see right through her and how she did Obama.
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Posted by: www.OsamaForObama08.com | August 4, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Isn’t this FUN?! The juvenile guessing game being played by BOTH candidates is getting tiresome.
Posted by: Rhys | August 4, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
Well, angie we can only guess what would have happened if Clinton was the nomniee, but she would have been in a better position to fight back because she didnt set herself to be some kind of new age nonpolitican who didnt run attack ads. McCain or the Rnc would have been able to say anything about Bills affair because Clinton would have unloaded on McCain about him leaving his first wife. Obama is probably gonna win, but I just don’t know what will happend after he wins. I mean he ran a lot of his platform on the fact that he was against the war? Wells that all fine and good but he never had to cast a vote( and lets be honest most people were calling for blood after 9/11) do we really know what he would have voted? And the whole race thing, I mean maybe the typical white grandma thing was taken a little out of context but can you imagine what would have happened had bill or Hillary said somebody was a typical black person, Al and Jesse would have lead protest marches in the street. The double stanard it unbeleive able Imus calls someone a nappy headed hoe and its off with his head(he is a shock jock its his job to shock) Bernie calls someone a hoe and its all just a joke cause he is a comedian. Then we have fox calling Michelle Obama’s baby mama we have nas and many others protesting fox and news caster losing her job. But luda releases a song refering to Hillary as a B and its just freedom of expression. I am tired of double standars. I hope you are right and that Obama show some courage and puts HIllary in his cabinet, cause like I said he’s probably gonna win, but between his wire tapping vote, and his continuation of bush faith based programs and now his offshore drilling stand he makes me nervous.
Posted by: rachel | August 4, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am
I don’t agree that Obama “needs” Hillary, but I do think he would be smart to put her on the ticket. I think it is an unbeatable ticket. Any “baggage” that Hillary carries that the repubs. try to use against her will be offset by Obama supporters. Anything megative the repubs. throw at Obama will be offset by Hillary supporters. I don’t think Hillary would sabotage an Obama white house despite the fears of some of Obama’s supporters. She still want’s to be president in 8 yrs., and that wouldn’ help her cause. Bill Clinton is still very popular, even if African-Americans aren’t that crazy about him right now. He is still a very strong advocate for the democratic party, and would help the campaign immensely.Obama, Clinton supporters, and the democratic party need to realize the main thing is to take back the white house. Bygones.
Posted by: Randy | August 4, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am
JimmyTMac: That’s where your wrong about Hillary. Hillary should have been the nominee but low and behold comes the crooked DNC and pressured the superdelegates into voting Obama because Dean hates her and Nancy is jealous of her. Nancy wants to be the only woman in charge and Hillary got cheated out of the MI and FL delegates. Get a grip and read more on politics. Obama is the most underhanded candidate that ran for president of this country. There isn’t anyone he would doublecross to get what he wants and this generation of foolish college students have eaten up his copied speeches from the book of RFK’s and his words of hope and change. Its people like you that would vote for a candidate like Obama that is elected would turn this country into a disaster because of lack of experience, foreign policy and the incapabilities to clean up the mess. He is not Bill Clinton and never will be.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | August 4, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am
yes, lets shake things up and create buzz because our campaign is falling off the cliff. we need people to start talking about obama the great. the elitist Harvard Lawyer. McCain is about to pass him in the polls for the first time. Barry cant let that happen watch for the VP selection announcement by tuesday.
Posted by: DEAN O | August 4, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
Looking at Obama’s experience and his ego, he will have to pick someone who doesn’t take his spotlight and has less experience.
I quess that leaves out Bozo the clown.
Posted by: Independent minded | August 4, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
Seah: You are so right. Anyone he picks for his VP will have to spend time teaching him how to run the country because he certainly don’t have the intelligence or capabilities to run it. And his supporters are a joke. They should star in the comedy hour. Let’s hope the PUMA pulls off what they are going to do at the convention and all of Hillary’s voters vote for McCain or write her name in to prevent Obamaosama from being elected. Obama is part of the ruination of the Democratic party along with Nancy, Dean and Reid. They are all underhanded and crooked.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | August 4, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am
counting crows: I don’t believe McCain has a mental problem, Obamaosama has an inexperienced,incapability problem along with no knowledge of foreign policy. His world tour was a joke. And he thought it would give him a bounce. He may not do as fine as you think because there is a black website that is against him along with thousands of Hillary’s voters. If he thinks he doesn’t need Hillary wait until the election and he doesn’t win enough states. And I believe there are states that will not vote for him no matter wha the inflated polls are saying. And if he is elected pity America. If you think we had it hard with Bush you haven’t seen anything yet.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | August 4, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
The DNC convention is in a few weeks and that’s about the time when we will learn the DNC VP. Barack is indecisive and keeps adding people to the list. He will do anything to keep from selecting Hillary who seemed to measure up to all his predefined attributes for his VP choice. He doens’t want to pick someone who would outshine his ego or have better ideas and solutions. He’s been saying his VP selection is close for some time now. This is not the first story on his VP selection being close – this is just his tactics to ramp up his FREE press coverage – and avoid paying for campaign ads.
Posted by: Jilly | August 4, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
Funny….MS Mcgaskill said the same thing a week or 2 ago…. No announcement has been made & she is, as usual, clueless and out of the loop. Watch her reaction when Rockbama kicks her to the curb after he loses her State…..
Posted by: jimbo | August 4, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
I don’t care who he picks. I voted for experience and I am still voting for experience and that BO doesn’t have!!! Mcgaskill needs to be voted out of office herself along with Pelosi, Reid, and Kerry. Send a message to the DEMOS that we pick the President NOT THEIR ROBOT SUPERDELEGATES!!!!!
Posted by: politicgirl | August 4, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Hey emanuel who has really been running washington the last couple of years yea thats right the dems.Dont blame Bush or the republican party for this oil crisis.Blame yourself blame your neighbors blame china for wanting big suvs like you have.I cant stand the democraps blame everybody beg for change but wont even look at Obamas Ill voting record.Obamas arrogance will lose this election.I cant wait to see all the dems who think the world is ending when McCain gets elected.God bless the gop.I would rather a lifetime of Bush than one day of the socialist,marxism of Obama.The best used car salesman ever Obama.
Posted by: Joseph L | August 4, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
The Hillary voters did nothing to hurt Obama reputation,he has flipflop and lied and hurt his own self..Who wan,t a lier in the white house,,not me..Pelosi stay out of TEXAS we don,t need you…The saying goes like this ”Don,t Mess With TEXAS”
Posted by: sue | August 4, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Joseph-
While amusing in a slightly sad way, your rant falls well short of the intended result.
First off, you’re trying to deflect blame, and doing a horrendous job of it. If you want people to take that seriously, you’d do well to put examples in your posts to back up some of the seemingly silly comments…I.E:
“The majority Democrats are blocking votes on offshore drilling”. Not the best in the world for a sensationalist, I know, but hey, do your own thing.
Secondly, you literally try to blame EVERYONE but republicans for the current mess we’re in….that’s unreasonable AT BEST.
Third, stop using talking points like “Obama’s arrogance will be his undoing”. There are two good reasons for this: 1.)It makes you sound like a cross between Karl Rove and Senator Palpatine. 2.)It makes people think you’re a clone….the statement a.)lacks substance, and b.)seems to be wrought with jealousy, along with the whine….
I won’t address the “I’d rather live….marxism of Obama” statement, other than to say it’s a stupid and baseless statement.
Finally, your second post was just regurgitated trash. He doesn’t want to legalize pot…he, like MILLIONS of other Americans, including several members of Congress want serious reforms to laws regarding marijuana. Also…and I know you’ve heard this: Obama is NOT…I repeat N O T a Muslim. Also…”lay off our military”…c’mon man…I KNOW you can troll harder that THAT…
Posted by: Henderson | August 4, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
“Tim – Wait a second now. We’re sitting on quite of bit of oil down in the gulf. We don’t even have to drill for it. It won’t take 10 years to get it or for it to affect oil prices. If were to release just a tiny insignificant portion of our reserve oil, a lot of smart people are saying that it could have an immediate impact on the price we’re paying at the pump.”
That’s extreme short term thinking.
Our strategic energy reserve is about 9 days worth of the worlds oil use.
We have about 50 TIMES that amount in ANWR, offshore and 1,000 TIMES that amount in recoverable shale oil. Release a bit from reserves and you have a temporary drop. But open up drilling and you have a long-lasting impact for 10-30 years.
Even bringing UP the offshore drilling idea was enough to cut the price of crude oil from $145 to $120 a barrel. The more the Republicans and President Bush push for this, the more the price of oil falls.
The more Democrats obstruct them on this, the more the price of oil rises.
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2008/08/pelosi-is-disastrously-wrong-on-energy.html
Posted by: Travis Monitor | August 4, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Travis-
Expanded offshore drilling is wishful long term thinking at best. We need to figure out a better way to get energy, it’s that simple.
Not only that, NOBODY has proposed just how we’re going to PAY for this little endeavour. If we want to drill, the conservatives may not get their wish for (yet another) war to break out.
Posted by: Henderson | August 4, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm