Obama’s Speech, By the Numbers

Great Speech …

Experience got us into the crap we are in right now …
It’s time for good judgment and temperament …
Democrats ’08 …

Typical Obama speech – lots of rhetoric, no substance. Outlined a dozen things he is going to do, but not word ONE on how he plans to accomplish these goals. No specifics – the thing Hillary had in abundance. Loft rhetoric, typical class warfare drivel. I was not impressed. Still Carrie, Still a Dem, Still Voting McCain.

People constantly make the experience argument, but actually the US is pretty good at electing inexperienced people. Carter had 1 term as Governor of Georgia- oh but President Carter was a failure. Ok Wilson had only served one term as Governor of New Jersey. But he didn’t do that much really, accept take the US into an unpopular war. Ok then FDR had only served one term as Governor of New York, and led the country through depression and war, and almost out the other side. But they are all Democrats. Ok Teddy Roosevelt had only served a term as Governor of New York, and barely a year as VP. Oh but they are all executive jobs. Ok then Abraham Lincoln served 1 term in the House of Representatives, 8 years in the Illinois state senate.
It really isn’t about experienced or inexperienced. Its about who has the best ideas to move the country forward. And that is Barack Obama.

It really doesn’t matter to me who wins but I would hope that the new President would make every effort to ramp down the deficit spending. Both Bush and Congress share in the blame for this real threat to America’s survival.

If experience got us where we are today, I’ll take a chance on the Obama. I’m not sure how much more Republican “expertise” this country can take.

He had no flesh to put on the bones. There were no economic speicifics.
He’ll get us off oil in ten years? Someone needs to tell him that he won’t be princess,er, President in ten years.

and how is Obama going to eliminate our use of fossil fuel in 10 years? Dumb and dumber strike again.

Back in the primaries, people made fun of Hillary Clinton and her tedious, boring monologues on specific policy proposals and how she would go about achieving them. People loved Obama’s loft rhetoric and calls for Change! Now Change, change, change is getting old, old, old. Don’t tell me there isn’t some buyer’s remorse going on in Denver. I know better. The Democrats made the wrong choice, and they know it. But it’s too late now.

The word is that McCain is going with some woman that is the Gov. of Alaska.
Talk about LAME.
This guy doesn’t stand a chance.

Bottom Line: Osama is in this for himself – not you, not me – HIM!
Now where do you think the money will come from to make him a hero as President when he starts giving paid sick days to all, feebies, giveaways, help to the poor and urban masses of unemployed?
Why from YOU, of course. You will be taxed to death and he will shine on for another term.

Watching that speech last night made me wish I was 18 years old again. Obama promises free college tuition, free health care, free head start for my kids, robust Social Security for my parents, government investments in science projects, no more dependency on Middle East oil (notice he didn’t say foreign, since the vast majority of our oil imports come from Canada and Mexico), electric cars, great public schools, strengthened relations with friends and foes alike, nuclear disarmament and on and on.
Wow, what a list. I will admit this is the first time I’ve listened to any of his speeches in its entirety. I’ve never listed to a McCain speech in its entirety, either. All I can say is, who actually believes this stuff? There’s no such thing as a free lunch, someone is paying somewhere. And by the way, show me where in the Constitution it says any of these programs are the responsibility of the government, i.e. taxpayers? Who is going to pay?
Answer: Me. I’m in my mid 40′s and work hard, supporting a family of five. Doing OK for a guy who graduated high school with $100 and an 11 year old Ford Torino. I don’t believe for one second that my taxes won’t go up to pay for all this “change”, not to mention whether any of this stuff is good for America or not. I can understand why teenagers get swept away by this sort of unbridled idealism, but adults?
Jimmy Carter, part deux, here we come!

I am waiting for Obama to make good on his promise to debate McCain “anytime, any place”.
He promised that during the primaries and backed out.
I say 1 town hall debate every week until the election.
no glitz, no glamor, no fire works, no bands……just real answers to the questions without all the double speak.
It is something I would like to see before I make up my mind.

@JP: It was Von Braun’s vision; it was Kennedy’s speech. It was America’s money.
Try not to rewrite history too much for the purpose of a candidacy. When a country loses its true history for political correctness, it gives up its one anchor to reality.

JP, JFK would be considered too conservative to be part of today’s Democratic party. The space race was as much a military endeavor as a source of national pride, make no mistake about it. When Sputnik went up the US immediately fell behind in the communications and spying war. JFK knew a mission to the moon would by default place the US ahead of the USSR both militarily and nationalistically. One of the by-products of the moon missions was the development and refinement of ICBM’s.
Economincally, JFK would be villified today by the Dems. “A rising tide lifts all boats”, is a well know JFK quote he used to summarize his economic philosophy. This is known as “trickle down economics”, the idea that lower taxes on the business community will make American goods and services more competitive, creating jobs and wealth, and utlimately benefiting all Americans. Of course when Reagan stated the same thing he was lambasted as a pawn of corporate America. It’s all about perspective.

Why do we have the suppressed biography of Obama’s life, and his belated dumping of Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, and even teenage mentor Frank Davis. The “bitter clinger” sneer at Pennsylvanians. Smearing Bill Clinton as a racist. Trying to intimidate the Milt Rosenberg show on Chicago radio station WGN, just because the host was interviewing Stanley Kurtz about the Bill Ayers alliance.
Two nights ago Michelle O discovered her inner Jackie O, but not before revealing her entrenched anger for all to see. It was a great performance, but nobody who’s been paying attention to the lady believed it. When this campaign gets in trouble it becomes Stalinesque and starts to stamp on its critics.
we always get suckered by our elected leaders like George W. Bush — so now they will sucker us even better than ever before.

How many times did Barrack say “I will”? To which one asks, with who’s money?
That was creepy. Short on specifics, long on promises, long on the same old promises, short on any inkling of how to deliver.
The Democratic candidates best qualified are Senator Clinton and Al Gore. What we saw last night was spectacle designed like a made for TV movie.
Let’s see what the next guys have.

Obama and Oprah want the government to provide free healthcare for all. Does the government then have a right to demand that Obama stop poisoning his lungs with cigarettes? Does the government have a right to demand that Oprah drag her fat as$ to Jenny Craig? There is no such thing as “free” healthcare for all. “Free” healthcare is another massive social program that will cost trillions. Increasing taxes on the so-called wealthy can’t cover the cost. How many rich people do you know? There aren’t that many of them out there. “Free” healthcare will be paid for by the people who pay for everything in this country – the MIDDLE CLASS.

“But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why, 35 years ago, fly the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas? We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.”
Quoted by JFK
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My point to the original poster, geevil, is if America has no vision, we can’t complain where we end up. Case and point – right now. Our energy crisis is a matter of national security and to propose a bold plan to reduce fossil fuels in 10 years is worthy of our attention.

If Obama wanted to invoke the image of JFK, he should have married a woman with some class. Jackie Kennedy went to France and spoke French to the people. Michelle will go to France and whine about her mean country.

JP:
The costs alone guarantee we will reduce fossil fuel consumption. If Barack wants to take credit for that as he has taken credit for the legislation and hard work of those around him while he voted present or campaigned for a job to which he is ill suited, then fine.
But the reduction will not come from a vision. It will come from necessity and smart engineering. It will not come from another group of long-winded lawyers. It will come from our pocketbooks.
Let’s see who has the best plan for investing our money because that is what this is about.

How about these numbers…from ABC news
Personal incomes plunged in July while consumer spending slowed significantly as the impact of billions of dollars in government rebate checks began to wane.
Consumer spending edged up a modest 0.2 percent, in line with expectations, but far below June’s 0.6 percent rise. When the impact of rising prices was factored in, spending actually dropped by 0.4 percent in July, the weakest showing for inflation-adjusted spending in more than four years.

Obama and his liberals always say we can’t tap new domestic oil for at least 10 years. Our vision is to tap those plentiful oil deposits.

Woody’s education level shows in his comments. First of all, he LIED about what Obama said during his speech. He never mentioned free college or free healthcare. He’s worrying about his taxes going up because of Obama’s proposal to help the working class, but he’s aparrently not concerned with his taxes going up due to this sensless war that’s costing a fortune right now, every day.That money will have to come from somewhere also. He (Woody) also mentioned the ” trickle down” economic theory as being a matter of prespective.
Well, any way you look at it, it’s not working because look at the state that we are in right now.

That’s a good one: mentions America 52 times in 44 minutes.

First impression of last night -
Obama’s speech gave 80,000 supporters and millions of Democrats, Republicans, Independents watching TV their moment. When the 80,000 energized supporters started to yell”Yes we can!”, all of us watching TV across America hear their rally cry. Watch out relentless Republican Attack machine! You heard it too! Obama and 80,000 supporters inspired us all. That was the Democrats I grew up with! This is the Democrats I know!
Obama on stage we saw two warriors with heart and courage. Oamaba/Biden and Democrats are ready to rumble against Republican Attack Machine. But most important they are ready to court Republicans and Independents on the issues. Which voters care about. The Race has started!
Al Gore, Bill Richardson and Susan Eisenhower also inspired us! When Susan ended her great speech with “Yes we can!” We cheered!
Susan Eisenhower -”The history of free men is never really written by chance but by choice; their choice!” Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote
Obamacan’s – “The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry.”
William F. Buckley, Jr. quote
“Few will have the greatness to bend history itself; but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total; of all those acts will be written the history of this generation.” Robert Kennedy Quote
Vote Obama/Biden ’08

Boy, Obama sure is blessed and higly favored. Not a drop of rain, pure sunshine, a beautiful sunset to the conclusion of an inspiring convention.
Many people left as inspired by the convention as they are motivated by the evilness in the hearts of those that are trying to roadblock change. Their impact will catapult VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
This is a Movement, people.
And just as MLK lead a movement that were not deterred by the evilness of attack dogs, fire hoses, police dogs, whips, chains, arrests….the People’s Movement will not be stopped.
So all you George Wallaces, Strom Thurmonds, Trent Lotts, Jesse Helms David Dukes, who attempt stand in the way of Change and who speak with vile and hate, Move Mountain!

Wow – McCain picked Sarah Palin for VP – going to be a real fight.

Hi Pete,
Thanks for the unprovoked personal attack. I’m sure you think it makes your argument stronger but in fact it has the opposite effect.
As with any speech you must read between the lines. I know I’m not as sophisticated as yourself but I will attempt to draw attention to what was said and what was meant. Now try to follow along.
“… if you commit to serving your community or your country, we will MAKE SURE you can AFFORD a college education.” Did he say “free college tuition”? No, like most of the time Obama is much more nuanced than that. How does a government MAKE SURE one can AFFORD a college education? By paying for it, of course. How else? Also, by saying “serving your community or your country” he’s drawing a moral equivalence between military service and the very vague notion of “serving your community”, whatever that means. Does that seem right to you?
“If you have health care, my plan will lower your premiums. If you don’t you’ll be able to get the same kind of coverage that members of Congress give themselves.” Um, if that’s true you will see every company in the country drop health care coverage simultaneously and/or massive opt-outs by individuals as soon as the inauguration is over. Woo-hoo! Congressional-level health coverage for all! Sounds free to me.
BTW Pete, I had no health coverage for many years of my adult life. It inspired me to put myself through college and get a good job so I could stand on my own two feet.
Reagan’s trickle-down policies have been systematically and slowly reversed over the years and Bush hasn’t exactly been a champion of them. This may come as a shock to you but I’m not particularly fond of W. But let me ask you, are you better off than you were four years ago? Or eight years ago? I am, mostly due to my choice to work hard and sacrifice my time to improve my lot in life. If you’re not, ask yourself “why” and then ask yourself what you can do about it.
“And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.
My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.” JFK – January 20th, 1961

Alaska’s Governor now facing ethics-related probe
Submitted by crew on 24 July 2008 – 9:10am. Alaska Sarah Palin
It’s never a dull moment in Alaska. You may recall that all three members of Alaska’s Congressional Delegation, Senator Ted Stevens, Senator Lisa Murkowski and Rep. Don Young, made CREW’s list of the most corrupt members of Congress, Beyond DeLay.
Now, the relatively new Governor, Sarah Palin, is in hot water and may be facing a legislative investigation. Via the ever informative Anchorage Daily News:
Alaska Senate leaders want an investigation of whether Gov. Sarah Palin pressured and then fired the public safety commissioner because he wouldn’t get rid of a state trooper who had gone through a bitter divorce with Palin’s sister.

Obama’s speech was pure leftwing tofu.
McCain-Palin 2008!

Under investigation for firing
But Palin’s seemingly bright future was clouded in late July when the state legislature voted to hire an independent investigator to find out whether she tried to have a state official fire her ex-brother-in-law from his job as a state trooper.
The allegation was made by former Department of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan, whom Palin fired in mid-July.
“It is a governor’s prerogative, a right, to fill that cabinet with members whom she or he believes will do best for the people whom we are serving,” Palin told CNBC’s Larry Kudlow in an interview on Aug. 1. “So I look forward to any kind of investigation or questions being asked because I’ve got nothing to hide.”

LOL.
Months making issue of Barack’s experience only to hire a governor in the 2nd year of her 1st term!
But I see its already been rationalized away by the duped masses

“…the duped masses”
You mean voters? You mean those bitter cynical clinging to their guns folks?
Dupes? Who talks like that in the 21st century?
Got a problem with women? Feeling sexist?
Oh you liberals. You’re such screamers!
I’ll be interested in Palin’s story and her positions. I’ve heard almost nothing about her except the bits about being a Mom, having a Downs syndrome child willingly, etc.

Sarah Palin is a marathoner and a hocky player.
Obama can’t even bowl!
Oh this is going to be fun…
Ladies we have our woman VP!!!!
It’s not Hillary but the next best thing!
McCain/Palin 08 Hillary 2012

Tiff
I’ll tell you what is cool..
A woman VP!!!
The 72 year old McCain had the guts to make a bold choice–a game changer.
Obama went with the typical Washington insider.
I’m sorry if you have a problem with srong women and “change”.
McCain/Palin08 Hillary 2012

Senator Obama’s speech rated a -3 out of a perfect 10. His ability to accomplish his promises and “I wills” is -1. His being elected by informed voters is is also -1. Good show, Rock Star Obama.
For a corrupt candidate from the most corrupt area of the country to claim he has the “Magic Wand” to fix everything is absolutely ludicrous. He has nothing but empty words and a transparent resume of accomplishments. Even former state senators who worked with him for 8 years hate the guy. The “Movement” will be as welcome as a 9.1 earthquake under Santa Barbara.

Are people here just stupid thinking she’s the next best thing to Hillary. She doesn’t even come close. Are you that desperate to have a women on the ticket.

“Sarah Palin is a marathoner and a hocky player.”

An African-American presidential nominee – I think all of us in the US are little better because of this historic moment, whether you like Obama or not.

After this speech, McCain will have his work cut out for himself. I was dissapointed about Obama’s outright support for Georgia against the Russians in his speeach when it was Georgia that was largely responsible. Oh well.

“Frankly, when she is on stage with Biden, I know which one I’ll be watching with the sound turned down.”
If this was an actual factor in voting for most people, Dennis Kucinich would be the nominee of the Democratic party.

Mary, I do not agree with McCain on very much, but his immigration reform bill was excellent, in my opinion. Too bad it got shot down. It called for securing the borders first. The it got those workers that are here on the tax roles and with requirements to learn English and pay a fine to earn the right to stay here. Not amnesty but rather a way to earn the right to be here legitimately.

It was an AMAZING speech. I have never ever seen or heard an acceptance speech quite like Senator Obama’s. Now I can’t wait to hear Senator McCain’s acceptance speech.

Eighty-four thousand people filled the stadium. A Nobel Laureate spoke. It was simply amazing. And, OMG, Senator Obama’s speech was incredible. It was more a conversation than a speech. I loved it. It was magical and a great time to be a Democrat.

“While somewhere in this country people have been evacuated from their homes to avoid hurricane, Dems gather 84,000 people to celebrate and listen to Obama’s speech.”
Evacuations just started today actually the same day McCain chose to have a VP announcement party with 15,000 people.
I can’t believe a right winger has the gall to bring this up after how Bush and company handled Katrina.

Here’s the text of the Charles Babington article that soooo upset Keith Olbermann, and which seems to have been disappeared from everywhere…
[begin quoted AP article by Charles Babington:]
“Barack Obama, whose campaign theme is “change we can believe in,” promised Thursday to “spell out exactly what that change would mean.”
“But instead of dwelling on specifics, he laced the crowning speech of his long campaign with the type of rhetorical flourishes that Republicans mock and the attacks on John McCain that Democrats cheer. The country saw a candidate confident in his existing campaign formula: tie McCain tightly to President Bush, and remind voters why they are unhappy with the incumbent.
“Of course, no candidate can outline every initiative in a 35-minute speech — especially one that also must inspire voters, acknowledge key friends, and toss in some autobiography for the newly-interested. And Obama did touch on nitty-gritty subjects, such as the capital gains tax and biofuel investments.
“He said he would “find ways to safely harness nuclear power,” a somewhat more receptive phrase than he typically uses for that subject.
“But most of his address echoed and amplified the theme that dominated the four-day Democratic nominating convention here: George Bush.
“John McCain has voted with George Bush 90 percent of the time,” Obama said. “I’m not ready to take a 10 percent chance on change.”
“Some of his comments about McCain were unusually sharp. “I’ve got news for you, John McCain,” Obama said, defying anyone to challenge his patriotism. “We all put our country first.”
“Obama’s aides have long complained that he gets too little credit for including detailed proposals in his stump speeches, because listeners seem to remember only his stage presence and lofty rhetoric. Obama, who earlier had promised a “workmanlike” speech in Denver, seemed to acknowledge the problem, saying he would fill in the blanks.
“Mostly, however, he touched on major issues quickly and lightly. It’s an approach that may intrigue and satisfy millions of viewers just starting to tune in to the campaign seriously. The crowd at Invesco Field cheered deliriously, but Republicans almost surely will decry the lack of specifics.
“For instance, Obama said it’s time “to protect Social Security for future generations.” But he didn’t mention his main proposal, which is to add a new Social Security payroll tax to incomes above $250,000 a year.
“He said he would “cut taxes for 95 percent of all working families,” but did not say how.
“He briefly mentioned abortion, gun rights, gay rights and other hot-button issues without delving into their sticky details. “Passions fly on immigration,” Obama said, “but I don’t know anyone who benefits when a mother is separated from her infant child or an employer undercuts American wages by hiring illegal workers.”
“On a few topics, he was a bit more specific. “I will eliminate capital gains taxes for the small businesses and the start-ups that will create the high-wage, high-tech jobs of tomorrow,” he said.
“Even if Obama had talked for three hours, of course, he could not have detailed enough proposals to quiet all his critics. But that’s not the strategy.
“Allies such as Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano will doubtlessly defend his approach. A few hours before the speech, she said: “What he should not do is what he will be criticized for not doing: Give a detailed policy speech. This is not the place for that.”
“She said Republicans will criticize him no matter what. They will argue that his lofty speeches lack substance and details, she said, and a detailed speech that scrimps on soaring rhetoric will prove “he has lost his gift.”
“They will try to Catch-22 his speech,” Napolitano said.
“Obama seemed to say, Bring it on, we’re sticking to our theme: McCain equals Bush.”
[end quoted AP article by Charles Babington]
It’s a better article than the speech it recounts. Who-all pays the MSNBC guys to campaign for Obama? Or are they dealing with some kind of threat?
It is a shameful subversion of the press, which was pretty subverted to begin with.

“seriously….who does he have besides Michelle?”