On Leno, McCain Invokes POW History When Asked About House Controversy
"For a million dollars," Jay Leno asked Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., today, "how many houses do you have?"
"Could I just mention to you, Jay, that, at a moment of seriousness. I spent five-and-a-half years in a prison cell," McCain said. "I didn’t have a house. I didn’t have a kitchen table. I didn’t have a table. I didn’t have a chair. And I didn’t spend those five-and-a-half years because, not because I wanted to get a house when I got out."
Turning to the subject of his wife Cindy’s father, whose built her family’s fortune, McCain said, "you know, I’m very proud of Cindy’s father. He was a guy that barely got out of high school, fought in W.W. II in the Army Air Corps, came home and made a business, and made the American dream.
"And so somehow, you’ve had Cindy on this show, and the fact is that she’s extremely generous," McCain said, "she goes around the world doing humanitarian stuff. She’s now in Georgia as we speak, looking at the humanitarian aspects of the results of this Russian invasion. So, I’m proud of my life and my record, and we spend our time in a condominium in Washington, in a condominium in Phoenix, sometime over here in the state of California and we have a place up in northern Arizona. And, my friends, I’m proud of my record of service to this country. And it has nothing to with houses. What it has to do with putting Americans in houses and keeping in their homes. And that’s what I’m gong to do."
Concluded Leno: "That sounds like five houses."
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Posted by: geevill | August 25, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
So which American Dream Obama has issues with? Cindy’s father built these houses after he came out from no where. McCain has lived in hell for 5 and half years. What is wrong in living an American Dream? Obama always lived in rich at the expense of his grand parents whom he threw under the bus as racists to defend his ‘uncle/mentor’ Mr. Wright.
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Obama is an elitist and radical guy who has shady judgement to be friends with terrorists and anti-Americans. Obama’s wife hates America. How the hell these kind of people can even think about being our President and first lady?
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
I have one question: As you know any professional that seeks to work on any DOD/Government contract/position that may provide access to ‘classified’ or ‘national security related information’ requires a ‘security clearance’ where they scrutinize your background for current and past associations/friends/relatives, where they live and their current and past associations too. Getting ‘Top security clearance’ is even harder. Knowing Obama’s radical views and terrorist/anti-American friendships, do you think Obama will get ‘security clearance’? I do not think so. In that case how can he run for President of USA? This is an important issue and may answer many of Obama supporters who take an issue with you giving importance to the ‘character’ and ‘judgment’.
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
NOUN, VERB, P.O.W.
Posted by: TR | August 25, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Boy, McCain really has no shame.
Posted by: Rogueista | August 25, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
westseattle, very well said.
Posted by: annie | August 25, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Steve_NJ: Show some respect to the men in military who give their oves to keep you and me safe. McCain has done so much for this country. What did Obama do? Give a speach? Thats all? Where was he during the Katrina mis-hap? Clintons were there working for the people and Obama was voting ‘present’ in the IL senate. Obama is a empty suite who is being forced fed by media and DNC.
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Why does he keep bringing up being a POW. I mean enough is enough, how many times do we have to hear it.
Posted by: Samantha | August 25, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
McCain is a citizen of Panama.
How is he running for President?
Will McCain get security Clearance?
There is a lawsuit pending. McCain may be disqualified before the elections.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | August 25, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
McCain is not the only POW that this country ever had.
Many of us and our families served and still serve this country in uniform.
So I have tremendous respect and I honor McCain’s service.
However, being a POW is not a qualification for POTUS.
In Mcacin’s case I even think his POW status should disqualify him. We have evidence he was brain-washed by the Vietcongs and he sold secrets to the enemy that may have led to the death of almost 5000 Americans.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | August 25, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Steve_NJ: You seem to be a radical lefitst just like Obama who hates America and disrespects our honorable military men/women.
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Samantha: How many times the elitist, radical Obama talks about his ‘community service’? A community organizer with radical views and terrorist connections CAN NOT BE OUR PRESIDENT. We TRUE AMERICANs will NOT let it happen. Period.
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
For you Obama supporters. Here are some of BHO’s lies, misjudgments and boneheaded decisions and flip-flops.
• BHO is naïve to hope that ‘change we can believe in’ mantra will still work after he picks a Washington insider, who has reaped money from lobbyists for decades, to be his running mate
• BHO has AUDACITY TO HOPE that Americans will not look at the character of the person to be president and he will be able to mislead them with his smoke and mirror tactics and speeches.
• BHO claims to have good JUDGEMENT, but contradicts himself by keeping relationships with anti-Americans, terror-mongers and racists for 20+ years
• BHO claims to be the MESSIAH of HOPE, but says ‘people cling to religion and cling to guns’ out of frustration. Is BHO equating Americans to ‘terrorists’ where the terrorists usually claim that they ‘cling’ to religion and guns out of frustration and economic woos?
• BHO claims to be a UNITER, but always tried to divide America on RACE and ECONOMIC INEQUALITIES
• BHO is trying to court the PRO-LIFE Americans by lying about his voting record, but also publically said that he would not PUNISH his daughters with babies.
• BHO claims to be INTELLIGENT and EXPERIENCED but proves that he is DUMB and NAÏVE by rolling out plan WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING the real situation by visiting the war zone and getting briefed by the Generals on ground who know the best.
• BHO talk about leveling fields as a non-politician. BHO entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. BHO back stabbed his friend and mentor Alice Palmer by nullifying Palmer’s nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw.
• BHO was DEFENDING Wright’s anti-American, racist rants until his lack of credibility was exposed by Mr. Wright when he said “Obama had to say what he said as a politician”, thus bringing BHO down to the ORDINARY politician level where he really belongs.
• BHO claims to be ‘TRUE’, but he is full of lies like – he never opposed hand guns, He never heard Mr. Wright making the incendiary quotes, He never said – he will not wear flag lapel pin, He is against NAFTA but had his adviser meet privately with the Canadian government to assure them he didn’t really mean what he said about NAFTA and the list goes on and on
• BHO wants us to BELIEVES in CHANGE, but the kind of CHANGE he is really talking about is to go down to his knees to negotiate unconditionally to Iran’s Ahmadinejad, Hamas and other terrorist groups.
• BHO’s claims to be a STRONG speaker – but only when he is reading a teleprompter. Look at his goofs when there is no such aid available – “I have been to 57 states and 1 to go” or “veterans who lost there lives, some of which are in the audience” or “Arabic translators taken from Iraq and sent to Afghanistan” or “he’d like to meet with “President Maliki” when he travels to Iraq.
• BHO is TOUGH enough to throw his grand mother under the bus, but he neither has GUTS to repudiate his anti-American, racist pastor nor has GUTS to vote NO to stop Adult Porn Shops from opening up next to our children’s schools.
• BHO took 20 years to finally accept that his pastor is an anti-American. BHO is an opportunistic liar.
• BHO Claims to be a PATRIOT, but refuses to wear flag lapel pin and his wife Michelle says: For the first time in her adult life she is proud of this country and America is a mean country
• BHO claims to be the better Commander-in-Chief, but how can he get that position if he can not even obtain the Top Security Clearance?
• BHO says WORDs MATTER, but is always short of words and steals them from others and constantly demands the people whom he insults to give him the benefit of the doubt for his misspeaks.
• He says he is Washington Outsider, but admitted in the debate that his campaign played negative tactics against Clinton in PA. BHO has more Washington Insiders endorsing him thus OWEs to them something that will MAKE HIM BIGGEST WASHINGTON INSIDER.
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
CJ,
You are the one spouting conspiracy theories to justify your candidate’s blatant exploitation of his POW status. You realize how ridiculous this argument is? I doubt you do.
Posted by: TR | August 25, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
CJ,
Your McSame is no patriot.
When he was captured, he sold secrets that led to the death of 5000 Americas.
His security clearance will be revoked I assure you. I know what I am talking about. When it is proven that McCain betrayed his country and caused the death of 5000 Americas and that he is not a natural born citizen he will be disqualified for the Presidency and his security clearance will be REVOKED.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | August 25, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
It’s called highlighting your strong points, the overcoming of hardships, the qualities acquired as a result, and the assurance that he honorably served this country and has the integrity to lead it.
On the other hand, “Obama has . . . a speech” highlighted on his three by five card resume, and more questionable elements of his past than a hound dog has fleas.
Posted by: Emm | August 25, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Emm,
Question: How many houses do you have?
Answer: I was a POW for 5 and half years.
Brilliant.
Posted by: TR | August 25, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
CJ not as much as the POW story which has nothing to do with anything. And I vote on issues and I won’t elect McCain who plans on continuing the Bush policies.
Posted by: Samantha | August 25, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
I forgot to brush my teeth last night because John McCain is a POW. True story.
Posted by: James | August 25, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
McSame has NO INTEGRITY to lead my country.
He is an adulterer who shamelessly abandone his wife in the same way he adandoned his country and gave secrets that led to the death of 5000 Americans.
McCain is a fraud.
He wined and dined with Charles Keating.
He took bribes and other gratuities from Abrammoff and his gang of thieves.
Just what integrity are you talking about?
Your MCCaine is a fraud.
WE WILL NEVER ALLOW HIM TO BE POTUS.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | August 25, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
For you McCain haters, let me remind you that Obama can hardly stop himself from claiming victim minority status every time he faces stiff opposition.
Posted by: peach | August 25, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Samantha: Do you really believe the liar Obama? Read my earlier post and you will know how many times Obama has lied to get elected. McCain on the other hand has always stood up for the Americans. He has critisized Bush. The only policy he and Bush has same is that McCain will not increase Taxes. What else?
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
CJ,
By all means, support who you want for whatever reasons you want. I am just trying to point out the ridiculousness of the POW argument. Enduring hardships should get you respect–nothing less, nothing more.
As far as the Obama-terrorist thing…maybe you should consult Jerome Corsi (author of the anti-Obama book, Obama Nation). He is very clear about McCain’s links to organized crime and connection to affiliate groups of Al-Qaeda. You wouldn’t believe such nonsense, would you?
Posted by: TR | August 25, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
I read an article the other day written by a lieutenant colonel that said McCain cheapens his service and the service of other soldiers with this brand of garbage.
McCain is doing exactly what Republicans accused Kerry of doing when he threw away his medals. In my view, that was an act of true patriotism on the part of Kerry, in the vein of our forefathers… men with real integrity. McCain’s cheap pandering is a stain on our flag, just like his performance in the US Navy up to and after he was captured. Google the USS Forrestal to learn how McCain’s arrogance resulted in the burning deaths of more than 100 US soldiers in Vietnam. This man’s heroic capital was spent the day he walked out of that camp… just to pay for all the crap he did before those years. And with the way he’s pissing on the service of real American heroes now with his cheap politics, he’s proved that was true.
Posted by: James | August 25, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
The Hillary supporters will vote for the second best candidate McCain in 2008 and reserve their vote for the best candidate – Hillary in 2012.
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
As a veteran I am becoming increasingly offended by McCain’s constant use of his time in Nam as a defense to any question or attack. I feel as though he is cheapening his experience and his service and in doing so is cheapening my service…I won’t vote for the man. I also find the outright lies and smears about Obama to be disgusting…he never went to a Islamic school, it was a public school open to all faiths…everyone needs to take a breath here.
Posted by: John | August 25, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
John McCain:
IT HAS BEEN A MILLION YEARS SINCE VIETNAM. When are you going to stop using that excuse for your clueless, fumbling, dishonest policies and failures?
You have proposed taxing our employer provided health insurance.
You have proposed major tax cuts for your peers, people who have $100 MILLION DOLLARS. No wonder you are so out of touch. No wonder you want to spend $9 BILLION a month in Iraq.
The middle class, whom Barack Obama believes deserve a tax break today, struggle to provide a house and the opportunity of college for their kids.
The middle class keep getting poorer. And a guy from Upper Richistan wants to be president, and burn their money in Iraq.
How does this money help us educate our kids? What kind of fool says “Ta Ta Bin Laden. I’m off to strengthen Putin and Iran with a pointless war in Iraq.”
How does this money help us in the economic war for our lives, trying to preserve the dream of the middle class?
Posted by: John's conscience | August 25, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
TR: So in your mind Ayers is not a terrorist? Wright, Farrakhan are not anti-Americans?
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
The class jealousy on this thread is appalling. And very, very sad.
Posted by: peach | August 25, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
How does spending 5+ years as a POW give someone the moral compass to do the same to others?
Posted by: jtobako | August 25, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Republican=Democrat=Conservative=Liberal=INEFFECTIVE
Posted by: pm | August 25, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
John McCain only mentions 3 things in every sentence: a noun, a verb, and “P.O.W.” He has demeaned and devalued his military service by using it as a cheap political tool to get out of really answering the tough questions. Is there anything this guy won’t do?
Posted by: Peter | August 25, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
You mean…there are no rich Democrats? Hehehe…the Dem politicians have pulled the biggest stunt of the century, having hard-working people thinking that the are just like “common folk”. I’d say many in Washington are kind of squirming right now because a list of how many homes Pelosi and Co. own is going to be exposed.
Posted by: Roger | August 25, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
McCain playing the POW card in response to Leno’s question about the house was a repeat of Brian Roger’s bringing up his POW experience after Obama criticized McCain for not answering accurately about his homes and also their worth. I think the POW issue was also brought up by Rogers after it was discovered McCain wasn’t in the cone of silence last week. Then before that, it was evoked the week before when the Bush pastor, who married Jenna, brought up about McCain offering up his wife as Miss Cow Chip in Sturgis. In short, McCain’s status as a former POW has been his defense in three major embarrassments timed roughly a week apart, not counting his Leno appearance. This certainly doesn’t go along with accounts of his humble reticence to talk about his POW experiences.
Posted by: kat | August 25, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
If all you care about is who has the most house or who is the rich guy…well I got news for you! they are BOTH millionairs! What REALLY matters is who has had the best judgement on BIG things like winning in Iraq (Mccain) instead of running away like chickens (Obama)…who was right on that one and who was wrong!…who has been TRULY bi-partisan all these years (again Mccain) who has worked with even Ted Kennedy to get things done and who is just another partisan politician with now an older “mentor” just like Bush and chainney were, but now on the other side of the political spectrum like Obama and his VP pick are ….do we want another set of partisan politicians in the white house AGAIN, this time form the left? I think not! and that is why I go for a President for all…a true and proven bi-partisan one…Mccain!
Posted by: LTP | August 25, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
McCain really needs to quit with all of this pitiful P.O.W. garbage, before he becomes a joke, just like Rudy “Noun-verb-9/11″ Giuliani. He’s quickly becoming a tired, sad joke.
We know he was in Vietnam. We know he was captured. We know he can’t tell his rear end from a hole in the wall. It’s bad enough that he fumbles simple questions so badly that even CBS decides they can’t air the answers to them, and now he has to use that pitiful P.O.W. defense for every stupid, asinine, and wrong statement that he’s made about foreign policy, his so-called area of “expertise.”
John McCain is nothing more than a tired old Bush republican losing more of his marbles each and every day, and every day he gives us yet another reason not to vote for him.
Go home, John, and stop embarrassing yourself. Even the Republicans deserve better than this.
Posted by: Stan Marz | August 25, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
McCain can’t count to 7, and freely admits he knows nothing about economics. Just like the fool who currently runs our country, he’s had his fortune handed to him on a silver platter — Bush by his daddy, McCain by his second wife, who was his adulterous mistress he cheated on his first wife with. We’re sorry about McCain’s ordeal in the Hanoi Hilton Four Decades ago, but nevertheless he’s quite clearly not intellectually, morally or temperamentally fit to be president. McCain supporters: on the housing issue, was he flat out lying to us or just too plain stupid to count that high? It’s either one or the other . . .
Posted by: James | August 25, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
So if you have so much property that you don’t know what you own, that makes you bad. I think that’s why people have things like accounts and such to keep track of such things
Posted by: Patrick Loftus | August 25, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
I suffered greatly, therefore my prosperity is deserved.
That is, to put it mildly, debatable.
How many others have suffered as much or more, yet show little for it?
Regardless, McCain’s evocation of his POW experience is not germane to the issue. He knew, from DAY ONE that he might be captured, killed, or injured in the work he voluntary took on for our country. Does he really think that his experiences *entitle* him to vastly more than most Americans can even dream of? Surely it doesn’t, and surely anyone raising the issue of “the housing question” cannot think that it does.
There’s a very simple fact here — regardless of what his wartime experience, regardless of how much he loves his country — no person who seeks the office of President of the United States should be so unsure of the basics that he cannot even say how many houses he owns.
Posted by: Chris | August 25, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Steve_NJ Stated
“WE WILL NEVER ALLOW HIM TO BE POTUS.
Man, you need your head examined! You sound like a crack pot. Do you realy think deep down that Obama is anything better than what has come before. The only reason I would wish Obama to win is to prove he is just another politician and you all have been played for fools.
Posted by: Jason | August 25, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Are the above comments really from grownups
Posted by: William M. Lonergan | August 25, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
This nation is going broke and the best you people–all of you–can do is shout at each other like children on a playground.
It’s disgusting.
Posted by: mp | August 25, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Kurt Vonnegut was a POW… but that didn’t stop conservatives from slandering him.
They even attacked him when he died.
Posted by: Blip | August 25, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Anyone check out the tight vineyard vines tie Joe Biden was sporting?
Posted by: Mike | August 25, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
I am willing to bet that all you heros that can blast a real war hero like McCain would have grabbed the change to be released like he could have done. I am also willing that none of you served a day in the service and would have run up to Canada.
Posted by: Boots | August 25, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
If you vote for someone because they suffered… isn’t that like the same as reparations?
Posted by: blip | August 25, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
1. McCain lied to the USA and led us to war, based on his SOURCE who told him that the IRAQI’s did the anthrax attack. To lie to get the USA into war, using false propaganda is a crime. He is no patriot. He is merely a politician.
2. Whom does he serve? The banks, the bankers.
3. What is his tax plan designed to do? Maximize the payout to millionaires. That’s its basic feature.
4. McCains health plan requires people who have existing health issues to LEAVE THEIR PLAN AND SHOP for a new plan at a higher cost. Really.
If you want to see plans to create jobs, improve education and provide healthcare to ordinary Americans, you will see the Obama website.
Posted by: bruce Becker | August 25, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Peach – I’d be surprised if you could quote just once where Obama has played the poor little victim card in response to a direct simple straightforward question he was uncomfortable answering as the weak minded spineless McCain did on Leno.
What McCain tries to hide is that HE is the very elite that his campaign encourages tools like you to believe Obama is. McCain is the rich out of touch elite person who last demonstrated any shred of human toughness 40 years ago in a POW camp and has largely been a rich little tool ever since.
He started out privileged, the son and grandson of Naval admirals and let’s all be realists here for a second… with his grades and the attitude he freely admits to having, we all know why he wasn’t thrown out on his ass at the Naval academy and why he was even able to get in in the first place and it wasn’t his merits.
When are you people going to get tired of putting these children of privilege into office? They don’t serve us. They don’t do what’s best for us. They never had to make it on their own like most of us and they never will. They are not fit to represent us because they are not representative of real americans. They are representative of the top 2 percent only and that’s it.
Obama did not inherit a legacy and got where he is on his own merits. That’s integrity and honor I can believe. Not some rich tool whose going to tell me that our domestic oil supply, which could only serve our needs if we could use it as fast we use oil now, for a little over three years, is going to magically make us energy independent. I’m not surprised a tool like him would say that, given that he doesn’t even know how many houses he owns or what his own opinion is on whether insurance companies should cover birth control the way they cover Viagra. The guy’s an embarrassment. Voting for him sends the message to the rest of the world that America is an over the hill testosterone deficient wannabe leader who can’t answer simple questions with straight answers. Heck no to sending that message.
Posted by: Benjamin | August 25, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Funny, McCain gave 26% of his income to charity and Obama gave 1% in 2007.
And yet Obama, who made $4 million last year and lives in a mansion has the gall to criticise McCain?
Sorry, why does Obama hate success so much? Doesn’t he want everybody to do as well as McCain (well, mainly his wife – McCain’s name isn’t actually on any of those houses… some of them used to house invalid relatives — and yet Obama has a half-brother that lives in a shack) has done — AND he’s done?
Is it bad to make yourself a success? Obama should PRAISE (himself and) McCain and tell the American people what is POSSIBLE! This is the ONLY country where this can happen! And all Obama does is diss people who made it and play victim-politics.
I means, sheesh… look at Obama! He made $4 million last year. This is the GREATEST country in the world! I hope to do just as well one day (although I will give more to charity than Obama).
Why does he hate… or put down America? American is THE country that put him at the top! He COULD be PRESIDENT, yet, anybody who ‘makes it’, is the enemy.
GROW UP OBAMA!
Posted by: Ster | August 25, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Life lesson: Never ever ever trust someone who calls you by the word “friend”, if you want to learn the lesson quickly goto a place like costa rica (a comparatively safe country, within 24 hours you will find someone calling you ‘friend’ if you choose to trust them you will have lost some valuable item with 1min-4hours later).. McCain self admits he knows nothing about the economy.
If you watch McCain every few weeks he postures the country to goto war with another country, so far we have had to be concerned of a war between the US and {Iran, Syria, Russia}.
I find McCain to be a scarier man than Obama. Although i’d rather see Ron Paul or D. Kucinich, I’ll vote Obama..
Posted by: noone | August 25, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Michelle Obama did not mention anything about American soldiers. She did not explain why he did not love this country before. She came out as liberal and elitist. She tried hard to show herself like a normal person but she failed miserably.
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Ster: McCain can donate 100% of his $135,000 salary as a Senator. So what? His wife makes tens of millions.
Posted by: bruce Becker | August 25, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Michelle hates Hillary and Hillary supporters hate her.
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
John McCain and his “I was a POW ya know” schtick is fast becoming as tiresome as Rudy 9/11.
Posted by: JJohnson | August 25, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
And by charity… you mean he “donated” it to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
The Superrich always “donate” money to foundations and lobbying groups as a way to get out of paying taxes. It’s really nothing to be proud about.
Posted by: blip | August 25, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Obviously McCain sticks up for the elite. Is this even debatable? Republicans are always concerned about the elite, because the elite are what rule the great American dream since they are at the pinnacle of it. If you want to summer in Nantucket and send your kids to Taft and Hotchkiss you should vote Republican because that’s the fratty thing to do. Do you happen to like UVA lacrosse and Dave Matthews Band?
Posted by: Mike | August 25, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Obama talks about how we have to help the less fortunate He gives a whopping 1% of his income to charity. His half brother lives on $1/month in Kenya. What a leader…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html
Posted by: JL | August 25, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
How much did Obama’s donate? They donated huge amount of money to the racist church. Obamas did not give a penny to the Katrina victims
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
I disagree, I thought Michelle made a moving speech and was very sincere.
Posted by: ll | August 25, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
How will you fix the economy? I was a POW for 5 1/2 years. How will you fix the housing crisis? I was a POW for 5 1/2 years. How will you fix the crisis in IRAQ? Did I tell you that I was a POW for 5 1/2 years. McCain really has nothing to say to the American people. We don’t know his anything about his platform. BUt we do know…that he was a POW for 5 1/2. I also have a question about the McCain images…Why do we mostly see images of his military days as opposed to current images? He’s 72 so what. He should be proud of that but instead I think he’s ashamed or else he still feels like he’s living in his POW days.
Posted by: NYC207 | August 25, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
TR said: “McCain lied to the USA and led us to war”
Well then, so did Clinton (both of ‘em), John Kerry, Al Gore, Pelosi, Reid and even JOE BIDEN!
Yet, even though Al Gore LIED to us about WMD in Iraq, I amd betting you voted for him.
Posted by: Ster | August 25, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Famous FORMER PRISONER, approves CIA’s torture of prisoners.
Appalling or just crazy? Now our troops are exposed to being waterboarded.
Posted by: bruce Becker | August 25, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Please start behaving (and commenting) like grown ups. Both sides in this comment list are acting like angry junior high schoolers. We need a substantive debate, not juvenile nonsense!
Posted by: MB | August 25, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Good Lord! Stop with the slams. I appreciate McCain’s lack of interest in his wife’s houses.
The LARGER issue is: who has a resume??
McCain has decades of working with the other party and a solid track record of accomplishments!
Obama has NO TRACK RECORD, and NO RESUME!
We just had eight years of a President who was light on experience. LOOK WHAT HAPPENED!!
Obama has even LESS experience than GWB!!! May God help us if Obama get’s elected!
Posted by: charger | August 25, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
A real American is one who is willing to criticize America. That doesn’t make someone anti-American, that makes the person more American.
It’s blind followers such as yourself who are the real threat to America, not these so-called radicals you worry so much about.
Posted by: PaliGap | August 25, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Erik: Why do Obama supporters do not like when someone talks TRUTH? Is that why Obama did not put Hillary on the ticket?
Posted by: CJ | August 25, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
I think Americans need to QUIT this whole moral vallues is all that counts and discuss the issues. Who cares how many houses McCain has and who cares about the value of Obama’s house. What is critical but is not being discussed? War (Iraq, Afganistan, Georgia, Israel/Palistine), the National Debt versus Tax Hikes & Cuts, The US Dollar weakness and our economy, national health care versus private and how to afford either, energy and our dependency on Middle East oil, the growing retired population, and our reputation around the world. Both parties give sound bites on these issues and then say but look at how “bad he is”. Everyone needs to grow up and think of solutions instead of saying, “Gee he doesn’t seem like a very nice person so I’m voting for the other guy”.
Posted by: John M | August 25, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
STER you are mixed up.
ONLY McCain went on TV and claimed to have an insider source who KNEW that the IRAQI’s did the anthrax attack on Congressional offices.
Kerry, Gore, Clintons. NONE of them every said that.
Posted by: bruce Becker | August 25, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
I think Americans need to QUIT this whole moral vallues is all that counts and discuss the issues. Who cares how many houses McCain has and who cares about the value of Obama’s house. What is critical but is not being discussed? War (Iraq, Afganistan, Georgia, Israel/Palistine), the National Debt versus Tax Hikes & Cuts, The US Dollar weakness and our economy, national health care versus private and how to afford either, energy and our dependency on Middle East oil, the growing retired population, and our reputation around the world. Both parties give sound bites on these issues and then say but look at how “bad he is”. Everyone needs to grow up and think of solutions instead of saying, “Gee he doesn’t seem like a very nice person so I’m voting for the other guy”.
Posted by: John M | August 25, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
The only reason why McCain being a P.O.W. is relevant is because that’s all he knows how to say. He’s forgotten everything else, like who he is and what he believes. The saddest part is that this is the best that the Republican Party can do. No wonder they can’t even win in Mississippi.
McCain is an embarrassment to himself. He needs to drop out now, because when he decides to invade the wrong country again, he ain’t gonna be able to use that P.O.W. crap as an excuse.
Posted by: Stan Marz | August 25, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Boots – and I’ll bet you and most of the armchair warhawks never served a day in the service and if you did, you had cushy jobs thanks to your rich political connections like Bush and virtually everyone in his administration.
For myself, I’ve been in the army but my right to criticize McCain, you, or anyone else doesn’t come from my service and neither does any other American’s right to do so. It comes from the constitution of these United States and if you were a real patriot of this country, rather than just another tool of the political elite, you wouldn’t default like most of you cowards do, to questioning the patriotism and service record of anyone who sees things differently than you.
Posted by: Benjamin | August 25, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
CJ said: “A real American is one who is willing to criticize America.”
Not when they are lying about it… or making America sound like a BAD country when it’s not… it’s the greatest, most free country with the most opportunity than any other in history. The problem is, Obama and the others do not see ANY good… only the bad.
Sad.
You know who else does that? Socialists and Communists.
Now… think about it for a while.
Posted by: Ster | August 25, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
McCain was a P.O.W.?? I thought he was the governor of Arizona.
Do race and time spent in a cell have anything to do with running the most powerful country in the world?
I read that a country gets the president we deserve. We obviously don’t deserve very much.
What can we do to deserve real leadership from people with real values?
Posted by: spanky | August 25, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Are people not reading my comments or what? This interface doesn’t really celebrate other people READING anyones posts..it’s more just a bunch of people rambling. As I’m typing this about 50 things are being said that I can’t see. I bet:
1) Someone brings up McCain being a POW
2) NO ONE brings up Joe Bidens awesome SHARK PRINT, VINEYARD VINES purple tie
3) Someone brings up why Obama is a fluke
4) NO ONE talks about Republicans been LEET in Nantucket, Cocktail Parties, and liking University of Virginia varsity lacrosse
Posted by: Mike | August 25, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Clinton is not on the ticket because her negatives are at 49%. She is unelectable on the national level.
Clinton is not on the ticket because 40% of the public who was registered to vote, did not vote in 2004.
THEY WERE BITTER. She is out of touch.
Tens of Millions did not even register, they are so bitter.
She is out of touch. At least her BEREAVED “FANS OF THE FIRST LADY” NOW CONFESS THEY TOO ARE BITTER.
Posted by: bruce Becker | August 25, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
I nearly threw up on my keyboard. McCain evokes his POW years like Giuliani evoked 911.IT’s a losing strategy. He’s just changing the subject. Being a captive does not make him qualified to be President. McCain can’t remember how many houses he has, and his wife can’t seem to remember how many siblings she has. It’s just gross.
Posted by: MissS | August 25, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Dear Benjamin:
I am guessing that you were one of the many that said Bush wasn’t qualified to be CIC (that’s Commander In Chief) because he had no, or very little military experience.
(I hate Bush too… but I am a Con.)
Now that the shoe is on the other foot, are you going to say that Obama can’t be Prez because he has no military experience?
I thought not.
Hypocrite!
Posted by: Ster | August 25, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
“Question: How many houses do you have?
Answer: I was a POW for 5 and half years.”
——
A well played move to show his patriotism and experience qualities in the face of such an idiotic question about houses. Old schoolers will not answer such personal questions. It’s his business, not anyone else’s. So when the question went unanswered, the hope was for a real journalist to find out the answer from real documents and set people straight about the “He OWNS 8 houses. . . blah blah”. First, even if he did, whoooopty doo? Second, look at who actually owns each one, who lives in each one, which ones he’s never been to, and then realize that Obama’s fraulent dealings with a felon landed him an estate worth far more than what McCain in reality owns.
Posted by: Emm | August 25, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Every city park in the country is full of Vietman Vets. Should they be President? I’ve been raped and tortured – and I’ve never used it to try to get a position. It’s time for John McCain to start telling American what he will do for America. The Vietnam War is over – maybe JOhn McCain is simply still there.
Posted by: mara | August 25, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Does no one remember the attacks against Kerry? They attacked him for his military service, they attacked him for marrying rich, does any of this seem familiar? Or are these tactics only O.K. for Republicans to use
Posted by: thomas | August 25, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
I don’t understand why people act so childish about this stuff. It’s not a shouting match, it’s a contest to see who will lead our country. John McCain found success, so good for him. He and his ancestors are proof that the American dream still exists. The same goes for Obama and his wife. They made a name for themselves and found success (notoriety and financial) because of it. Let’s drop this petty stuff and get back to the argument of whose plan will get us out of the problems we’ve been having as a nation. I can guarantee you two things: it isn’t by throwing more (tax) money at a system full of errors, and it isn’t by trying to appeal to one-sided, closed-minded religious people. Let’s get a candidate with the charisma of Obama and the financial intelligence of the old, classical, financially conservative right-wing of America in office. Forget false hope and appeasing the closed-minded.
Posted by: RL | August 25, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
You do realize that Obama is a US SENATOR which means he already has som form of security clearance as does Mcain
Posted by: chrid | August 25, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
The gutter-level grade school insults displayed here are very telling of the state of our country today.
While the peasants bicker amongst themselves, Rome implodes..
Posted by: Dan | August 25, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
MissS:
Yes, sort of. he owns none. His wife owns them. But, I guess it’s the same thing. Did you know Obama also owns a mansion. $1.6 million (bought undervalue)?
SO WHAT?!?!?
Why is it wrong to be successful? Isn’t that what we ALL want? I wish success on everybody in America!
Why is that a sin?
Nobody gets poorer when someone gets rich.
Were you ever hired for a job by a poor person? NO!
America CREATES wealth! The more the better! Work hard and YOU will get there too! You may not have 7 houses, but this is the greatest country for the opportunity.
Why is it so bad (for Democrats) to be successful? How many houses does Kerry have (I bet you voted for him)? Or the Kennedys? etc… etc…
Posted by: Ster | August 25, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
McCain is definitely still in Vietnam, Mara. Everything we’ve seen him on, he’s been in Vietnam. Ha, and you thought Leno’s show was being broadcast from L.A. tonight? Did you not see the palm trees eek through the set walls? The distant sounds of Nha nhac (court music of the Tran Dynasty) being heard in the background? WE KNOW HE IS STILL IN VIETNAM!
Posted by: Mike | August 25, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
No one says anything about the taxes that
Senator McCain pays on his many houses.
He can only stay in one house at a time.
I think he will make a great president. It
will take Obama 4 years to learn
how to run the country. Then watch out the
next four years. Could be interesting.
Some of us sleep in our car. DQ
Posted by: D. Qualls | August 25, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
You Dems have summarized why we’re slowly transitioning into a third world country. You belittle Mccain for not knowing how many homes he owns, yet say nothing about the deal Obama made with Antoin “Tony” Rezko. Mccain may have been and still clueless to the number of homes he owns, so what? They could be his wifes or in a blind trust. Still I ask, did he buy any of them through a convicted felon? I wonder how many homes the Clinton’s own? It doesnt matter!
So now we’re knocking someone for getting rich in America, laughable at best. Hello socialism and the DNC.
Posted by: Iown25homes | August 25, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Right on RL!!!
Posted by: John M | August 25, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
I forgot to mention that I’m looking forward to the day when Leno leaves the Tonight show————who is he to ridicule Sen. McCain.Ask how many days he has servered in the military.
Posted by: Boots | August 25, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
I’m so sick of McCain playing the POW card because of his inadequacies. He used it in regards to cheating on his first wife, he used it in regards to Saddleback, he used it in regards to being asked a simple question about his houses. When are the people of this country going to wake-up? When are people going to educate themselves and stop being so ignorant to change? McCain is a disaster for this sacred country, and will completely remove a woman’s right to choose, a man that called his current masked face wife the c-word, a man that is not for equal rights or pay for women. A man that is a complete hypocrite when he’s says he’s going to run an honorable campaign, but all he can do is put out negative ads and talk about Obama, instead of the issues and what direction this country should be moving in. He talks celebrity, but was on Leno again earlier, and was all hunky-dorey with Singer Daddy Yankee. He’s all talk, and a man of the wrong experience, or should we call it, bad experience. Republicans voting for McCain should be on edge, what a loser they have in their corner. I can’t wait till he picks Romney, they hate each other, and have like 12 or 13 houses between them; that’s hardly being in touch with the middle class, but I’m sure he’ll continue to play the POW card. Well, at least until it gets played out. ;~)
Posted by: PaulMo | August 25, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Someone mentioned McCain’s resume… lmao. This reminds me of his experience argument. His resume is long, but let’s be honest, what has he accomplished? Nothing that indicates he’d be a good commander in chief or would take the country in a new direction.
Everyone touting that reminds me of all the old guys I leap frogged when I entered the work force. They had college degrees and decades of experience, but they also had one major flaw I didn’t have… a sense of entitlement. They figured that since they had all this experience doing things as they’d always been done, they were automatically better candidates for promotion.
The thing is, when an organization needs to get off the wrong track, you don’t promote someone whose been part of the team that has gotten it on the wrong track in the first place. You bring in fresh young blood with newer vision and an outsider perspective. that’s how you shake things up and get things moving again in a new and better direction. American tech corporations like IBM and Apple have done this consistently and they are thriving and world recognized brands. The American automobile industry has failed to do this consistently and they are dying relics with poor reputations and no real future prospects of dominance.
McCain has experience going along to get along and unfortunately, he has gone along to get along with the very group of people who have run our economy to the edge of the cliff we’re on now. That’s the same as what we currently have and we don’t need four more years of that.
Posted by: Benjamin | August 25, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
We have become to stupid to rule ourselves.
Posted by: RDF | August 25, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Mr Jake Tapper, thanks for the reporting. I’m glad you summarized it for me so I didn’t have to see the slime live on TV. (And have him call me “friend”)
Mr. McCain, a.k.a “My Friend”, sends me letters every week asking for donations. The letters are rather boring, they talk a heck a lot more about Obama than himself or his voting record (which you’re usually hard pressed to find any mention of). I send him back Ron Paul flyers instead.
Posted by: Karl | August 25, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Does McCain have anything, anything at all to give us except POW, surge, and a near obsession with Barack Obama?
Posted by: 11thCavVet | August 25, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
You belittle Mccain for not knowing how many homes he owns, yet say nothing about the deal Obama made with Antoin “Tony” Rezko.
==========================================
You belittle Obama for his one house, but say nothing about the money that McCain took from Charles Keating, a convicted felon, in order to keep the Feds from investigating his Savings and Loan business.
Posted by: Stan Marz | August 25, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Keaton 5
McCain statement: “American economy is doing GREAT” (while millions go homeless)
Drill Oil on American soil (when he knows that the oil will go to the WORLD MARKET FIRST, NOT TO AMERICANS) OPEC CONTROLLED.
ANOTHER TRILLION DOLLARS TO THE FAKE FRONT OF IRAQ (GIVEN TO HALIBURTON)
Posted by: Underdog | August 25, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Can McCain make any public remarks without bringing up that he was a prisoner of war?!
For some reason he plays this sympathy card for everything, like being captured and held as a POW gives him better credentials to run a nation than the next guy.
Buddy, thousands of people have been POWs, and I thank you for your service, and am sorry for your pain; but I am also sick and tired of you dragging it out.
Drop the woe is me already.
Posted by: James Palmer | August 25, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
How many houses? What’s up with this question? I know people with lots of houses too. So what? It’s really nobody’s business, and the tally of one’s property is not related to the execution of policies or of one’s philosophy.
Making an issue of this is petty, does not define anyone as being out of touch, and proves nothing. Actually it proves one thing, that the liberals don’t have anything earth-moving to dish on the Republican candidate.
Obama has a mansion! And he’s wealthy! He is well removed from the average middle class America too! He’s in effect enjoying the same American dream that McCain is enjoying, and yet the Liberals attack McCain for it and put Obama on some pedestal for it. Typical Liberal double standard!
And what about Biden’s overstated education issue? And with Obama’s past, I know a person of Obama’s past would easily be considered a security risk! So it makes me wonder how he got as far as he did. Easy answer… hippie ex-drug addict liberal votes! We only need to look at our own past to see where we stand on that one!
Posted by: WFD | August 25, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Not that McCain should not know how many houses…. but….
NONE of the houses are in his name. They are either in his wife’s name (she’s the rich one), or in Trusts for their children (one adopted) and one is even used for an Aunt of McCain that is an invalid and the place was purchased for her to live in — AND they pay for her care, 100%.
Now… about Barack’s half-brother… what’s he got?
Posted by: Ster | August 25, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Someone please explain to me how you can be an elitist and a radical, a muslim and a Christian under Jeremiah Wright for 20 years AT THE SAME TIME? Bottom line… if your doing well in this economy, if you don’t mind people dying in a war that was created based on a lie, if you don’t mind well educated people loosing their jobs with little hope of finding another equivalent paying job, then vote for McCain. It’s your vote, use it to support the candidate you feel will help you most. Just remember, we live in a society and if you consider yourself to be a “moral” person, what’s occuring in this country to others should keep you up at night. I ask any Republican willing to have a civil conversation… where is your compassion for your fellow man? I’m serious… I don’t see that in the Republicans portrayed on t.v.
Posted by: rjsmom1 | August 25, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
After all the mud-slinging, all the name-calling, all the finger pointing…America will still need a strong leader. Yet we vote for politicians. WE Americans want leaders who can be pointed in the direction we want- yet we do not get involved with the process- with congress…the real decision makers. So bring on the puppet show- it is still pre-season and I have completed my football fantasy roster.
Posted by: SoICanPost | August 25, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
“Can McCain make any public remarks without bringing up that he was a prisoner of war?!”
Um… yeah.
Could Kerry? No.
I bet you voted for him, didn’t you?
Case closed.
Posted by: Ster | August 25, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
I’m glad Karl is also tried of the “My Friend” comment all the time. It is so stupid to keep saying it.
Posted by: John M | August 25, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Waa waa wah. John McCain has houses. Waa waa wah. Name me A US senator or governor that doesn’t have lots of expensive real estate. Democrat or Republican.
This latest political distraction does not address my real issues. Affordable healthcare, affordable housing, affordable transportation and next on the list of things I have trouble affording: food. There is no change I can believe in, only more of the same old mud fest slinging campaigning. All I hear is distractions, empty promises and lies.
Jesus Christ, when is there going to be someone that actually delivers solutions to the real issues that keep “We the People…” from actually achieving the promise of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
Please God, get this election campaign back to what it is suppose to be about, politicians serving the public for the public’s good and not themselves or their party.
Posted by: Daniel Beard | August 25, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Erik I’ll take that bet Dogface,I most likly was in Korea before you were born and have more purple hearts than you have ribbons.
Posted by: Boots | August 25, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
JUST A SIMPLE MAN, WILL NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE OVER AND OVER AND OVER..
THE LAST PAST YEARS HAVE BEEN A FAILURE
WHO NEEDS ANOTHER FOUR WITH McCAIN AT THE WHEEL.
ONLY A FOOL REPEATS THE SAME MISTAKE OVER AND OVER AND OVER ANDV OVER AND OVER ……….
Posted by: Underdog | August 25, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
I would argue that Jay Leno is more important to this country than some people in the military, Boots. (Consequently giving him my consent and acceptance to talk down to whoever the hell he wants to). Hollywood is more cut-throat than the military. Did you ever wonder why Humphrey Bogart got roles in so many classics and little HS kid down the street who enlisted in the military didn’t? Do you ever think that JUST ANYONE could say movie lines like “I’m a Drunkard” in response to Major Strasser asking him, “What is your nationality?” JAY LENO is irreplaceable. Well, less irreplaceable than say, CRAIGGERS. But to each his own. My cousin is in the military and he feels the same way I do, but he says it in a much more aggressive way. Hollywood, Sunset Blvds, Late Nights, Good Times, Humphrey Bogart and Dames out on the Town. Who’s with me?
Posted by: Mike | August 25, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Ster,
Let’s be clear here. Neither McCain nor his wife are “successful” in the entrepreneurial sense. She earned her fortune by inheritance. McCain earned his by marriage, after cheating on the wife who waited on him when he was a POW.
There is nothing wrong with being wealthy. But there is something wrong with supporting the Republican WAR ON THE MIDDLE CLASS.
The GDP of America has doubled since 1980. Where is the growth in middle class wages? Nowhere, that’s where!
The Republican write the rules to benefit their base. The wealthy DOUBLE their wealth and the middle class struggle to keep a decent life and to send their kids to college.
Posted by: John's conscience | August 25, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Again? Is McCain serious?
2 weeks ago Sean Hannity claimed it was okay for McCain to cheat on his first wife because he was a POW. wow
Posted by: Vanessa | August 25, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
STILL HE DOESN’T KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES HE HAS. I THINK IT IS BECAUSE OF HIS AGE.
AGAIN:Mecane steels people heart by telling his captivitu in vetnam and when he talks about it he thinks makes his listeners to belive he is the only vetran from that wrongly started war and finished shmefully.
He uses it like a currency to buy peoples heart, ear and now their vote AMERICA WAKE UP BEFORE CRYING FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
MACANE STOP USING YOUR EXPERIANCE IN VETNAM AS ACURRENCY TO BY PEOPLS HEART BECAUSE YOU ARE FROM RICH FAMILY AND GOT A CHANCE TO BE ON NATIONAL STAGE DONT MAKE MONY AND STATUS WITH THAT EXPERIANCE. THERE ARE MANY VETRACE WHO DIDN’T HAVE A CHANCE LIKE YOU AND CANNOT CASH IN TELLING THEIR STORY. WE ARE TIRED OF LISTING YOUR BLABLA BLA …..VETNAM……BLABLA…. TALK REALITY NOW.
Posted by: JOJO | August 25, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
CJ Thank you for getting to the real issues. I wish Jay Leno would have done so, but his own liberal leanings, and those behind him, obviously felt his question would cause the biggest response, and lead those less informed, to join in the attack. It worked.
I agree that his five houses are not the issue. We have different economic classes in America. We are not a communistic state,
I say vote for whom you will, but vote for the issues, and vote for the one who has the best approach toward meeting those things. Remember that we are a country based on the freedom to strive toward our own personal goals. Let’s not undermine what America stands for, and if you don’t like what America stands for, then you are in the wrong country.
darlene
Posted by: darlene | August 25, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Just to straighten out those who comment on Kerry always sayign he wasin Vietnam, he basically only pushed it once, at his speech at the convention. It was the whole swift boat issue that kept him talking about his service in Vietnam. You can thank the Republicans if that bugged you then and now. The Democrats realized very early how stupid it was to say anything about Vietnam, especially when Kerry flapped his mouth when he came back. So Kerry’s Vietnam issue was pushed by Republicans, not Democrats or Kerry. And W was elected on it.
Posted by: John M | August 25, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
The reason that the rich Obama ($4 million in income last year … more than John McCain, actually) brings up and makes fun of the # of houses is…
he has nothing else! no issues, no nothing.
he was preaching over and over that he was going to take the high road and talk only about the issues that Americans feel are important…
yet… he is biatching about the # of houses ANOTHER RICH guy has, and is not talking about any real issues.
funny how that happens.
and then says that his opposition will talk about his race — Obama’s quote: “Did I mention, he’s black?”
plays victim politics.
and when mccain does some ads about him being a celebrity — with a tone of humor — they WERE funny, he attacks mccain about his houses.
i thought obama was a ‘different kind of politician’! Nope…. he’s just like all the rest…
THAT’s why he is neck and neck with McCain and not waaaay ahead. People are figuring out he’s just like all the rest. (ALL of them… BOTH sides…) a SCAM ARTIST!
Posted by: Ster | August 25, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
I read the often repeated line, “McBush”, or “Four more years of the same policy”. Take a look at The One. Who does he most resemble in politics? I say, “Not another four years of O’Carter”. Can anyone remember Iran? What are the odds??
Posted by: Guy Thompto | August 25, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Oh, those evil greedy corporations! Why, they’re just not fair! They aren’t listening to The One Who knows that the the sky is falling –oops, that there is global warming. It’s just not sustainable!
OK, enough of the NPR pablum. Can’t you lefties think some original thought?
Posted by: Guy Thompto | August 25, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Why do the Dems, ever since 1959, present Whos from Whoville? Jimmy Who? Michael Who? Bill Who? Barack Who? Maybe it’s because they have slim resumes, tons of “Great Ideas”, totally despise anyone who questions their “Truly Superior Wisdom”, and, oh yeah, were born in a log cabin. JFK’s wisdom brought us to within minutes of nuclear armageddon, LBJ – who personally ran the Vietnam War, Carter – one of the least effective Presidents since the USA’s formation, Honest Bill announced to all, on national TV, that he had problems with the truth. And now we are supposed to throw our unconditional support behind someone with a one paragraph resume? But, then again, he’s got “Great Ideas”! Ok, right.
Posted by: robert | August 25, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Ster,
There are lots of people who vote Dem who do not believe that corporations are evil…I agree it is a stupid generalization. But that’s the problem with our dicourse today, it is not grounded in fact, logic or reason, instead we throw around catch phrases hoping to incite the other side. The media tends to prop up this kind of dialogue, but we can stop it.
I can make a corporation tomorrow if I wanted to…it would neither do good nor evil…it would be a shell, a void. Kind of like the comments posted here (mine included).
Posted by: JL | August 25, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Guy said: “and even connections to Marley, the 1976 car-bomber of Arizona Republic investigative reporter Don Bolles.”
Is Marley related to Bill Ayers who bombed the Pentagon, the NYPD and the Capitol who is a “friend” of Obama? Hosted his first fundraiser and was on the FBI’s 10 most wanted list?
Oh… sorry to bring THAT up!
Posted by: sammie | August 25, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Ster said: “Funny, McCain gave 26% of his income to charity and Obama gave 1% in 2007.
And yet Obama, who made $4 million last year and lives in a mansion has the gall to criticise McCain?”
Um, McCain’s wealth comes primarily from his second wife. You should recalculate this adding in her $6M+ annual income since she mostly funds the lavish lifestyle Johnny boy enjoys. When done so, you’ll see the charitable contributions from their personal own household is pretty tiny as well.
How can Johnny ever be qualified to be president when he’s collecting 100% disability from the VA? Why should our military be burdened following someone who has been rated as so severely disabled? He’s not fit to be their CINC!!
Posted by: Mike | August 25, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
JL said: “The media tends to prop up this kind of dialogue, but we can stop it.”
I hope so! It’s business that CREATES wealth — sometimes out of thin-air! I mean, did anybody get poor when the CEO of Google got rich? NO!
So tired of treating business like cr*p. THAT’s why businesses leave America. High taxes and they’re vilified. So, they split!
You’re right… ANYONE in America can pay a $25-$50 fee and start their own Corporation — (AND HIRE PEOPLE) — and get rich! Try and Try again!
You can’t do that anywhere else!
Posted by: Ster | August 25, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
sammie, those bombs didn’t kill anybody; Marley’s bomb did.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 25, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Yo, TripleHaze:
Where do you work? Is it for a Corporation?
Are you too stupid to realize that for $40, you can start your own? No? Go ahead!
Maybe you too can EMPLOY people instead of sucking off the teat of government.
Maybe you’ll get rich… if you do… you’ll deserve every penny. What’s stopping you? The man? No… just $40 for a license.
Get out there, bust your a** and make it happen.
REALLY… what’s stopping your *ss other than laziness? I’ve got three businesses… one doing well… allows me to work from home and read your lazy a**’s posts! I am now employing TWO people … WITH benefits!
What are you doing? Other than asking your Mom for money and looking for the cheapest dope prices? LOL!
GET UP… WORK YOUR A** OFF, and GET RICH! Then, you too can hire people and make them rich!
Or… you can stay on the couch, watch TV and be mad that all these other people have more money than you. Well, when you put in more than 12 hours per day, 6-days per week like I do… we can talk. Until then, grab your Mom’s box of Frosted Flakes, eat up, and SHUT UP!
When YOU provide someone with a job and experience, THEN you can post your drivel. Otherwise, go to sleep and let the rest of us make America. We do it one job at a time! YOU do it NO JOB at a time. Lo-hoo-hoo-ser!
Posted by: Ster | August 25, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
ster said: “I hope so! It’s business that CREATES wealth — sometimes out of thin-air! I mean, did anybody get poor when the CEO of Google got rich? NO!”
Again, I was not the one villifying the making of money and/or corporations. I do not believe that the creation of wealth only comes at the expense of others. You are arguing to yourself. My gripe is about “how” we discuss things. According to your logic, making money is good, people dont get poor when people get rich, McCain is rich, therefore, vote McCain.
The sad thing is, the true econonomic conservative does not exist anymore. Its funny that people still vote republican based on fiscal issues. If I were anti-abortion, I could see the draw, but I dont get you people who cling to the pubs when the true fiscal conservatives are either libertarians, or on the left (seriously, WJC was president the last time we ran a surplus…would you skim off the top of your business and run it into the ground?)
Posted by: JL | August 26, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Blah-Blah-Blah
If you paid close attention to what the current Administration has said –versus what they have actually done,(And I mean looking up actual speeches coming from the White House and Washington– not listening to some fool’s opinion for the sake of listener ratings – they don’t even believe half the stuff they themselves spew and laugh all the way to the bank!), then it’s fairly easy to see what has happened to the country as a result of the current Government. We all know people that have lost their homes due to foreclosure or disaster. Who got helped? Who’s still waiting? Homeowners are near the bottom of the list while these huge financial institutions continue to get propped up with tax dollars from your paychecks. When has the American Family suffered so much at the hands of their own Government? Then there’s this war that should never have happened. Afghanistan was necessary. Iraq? We were lied to about that one, just look at the words vs. actions! More of the same? WHY? So it could get worse for us? No way. Let’s see if Obama is good to his word. I know this current Pres. isn’t and I don’t want to see McCain in there – 71 years old – that’ll make him 75 or 76 at the end of the term. He should be enjoying retirement – not running the most influential country in the world.
Posted by: Words-VS-Actions | August 26, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Yo, Mike…
McCain STILL GAVE 26% of HIS income to charity.
Obama made $4 million plus (multiple times what McCain made).
Yet somehow, the annointed one who gave 1% of his income is OK in your eyes?
Whateva!
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. Us adults will be running the world and providing you a job (with benefits) for many years to come.
Posted by: Ster | August 26, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Shoot, I’m a conservative and a Republican and I’m pretty sure that many large companies are run by corrupt, greedy, polluting, sweat-shop running, bean-counting, selfish, military-industrialist types who often run these companies into the ground and parachute out.
Anyway, though I’d be quite happy to see a qualified Vietnam Veteran be President, I think Sen. McCain needs to scale back on pulling out the “POW card” because it’s wearing thin with many people and just gives ammo to his detractors.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | August 26, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Um, yo… “Words-VS-Actions”
In case you haven’t noticed… I will tell you something VERY important….
Shhhh… it’s a secret!
… Here it is!
….
The “current” administration, and yes… “shhhh”… that means the dumb GWBush (I do really hate him),
BUSH ISN’T RUNNING!
HE’LL BE GONE IN A FEW MONTHS!
Secret over… since you didn’t seem to realize that. Thought I’d do you a favor.
Posted by: Ster | August 26, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Playing the POW card over and over may work during a campaign but I’m not so sure it would work as President.
Posted by: cincyr | August 26, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Unless I’m mistaken in my history from Vietnam, there were approximately 600 POWs brought home, of whom one was John Mccain. They are all entitled to be honored for their service to this great country. None held themselves in higher or lower esteem for office solely on the basis of this aspect of their lives. We owe them respect, and we owe them our empathy for what they endured, but they are not, each and every one or any single one, owed the high office of President of the United States for having POW status. That office must be earned by a leader convincing the entire American public that their lifetime of work and vision and passion will give us an honorable person who will bring economic opportunity at home, and respect in the international community, because we are willing to work with our partners and allies to make the entire world a better place. I am proud to know many veterans and soldiers who join in saying they have much respect for both McCain for what he endured and Obama for what he has accomplished for their entire life’s work. The choice now is for the future. That future requires the vision and passion and work and leadership qualities not to threaten and bully the world by the old ways, but with a fresh vision to convince the world to join us because our ideas and our ideals will indeed provide the opportunities that keep this world safe and protected. A comparison of the candidates on their education, training, teaching, working, helping, and the leadership qualities we need in the next President of the United States convinces me that Barack Obama is the right person to lead us as a member of a world community, and who will make us economically strong again at home. I prefer to be FOR someone….and I am for BARACK OBAMA for PRESIDENT! Join us to work for OBAMA/BIDEN ’08.
Posted by: BENIGHSE | August 26, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Ah Ster. You assume much don’t you?
Well, yes I did work for a corporation for 15 years and my job was outsourced to India. A very well paying job.
I work for a private company now (which I much prefer, even though I make less money) and yes I know I could start a corporation, I already have a sole proprietorship.
No, I think people who start businesses and employ people do a great job. Small business people that is – not when it grows into this corporate nonsense.
I’m talking about these corporations who have sold the soul of America. That’s what we need to stop. Or reign in.
Sorry, it’s been 30 years since I’ve lived with mommy and I probably work more hours than you. Again, you just assume. And as usual, you are wrong.
If you are really conservative, then listen to a real conservative like Ron Paul – he speaks about the evils of corporations. It’s not anti-business it’s this machine we need to stop.
Posted by: TripleHaze | August 26, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
I am so sick of this faux war hero talk. He’s a survivor at best. Being a POW is unfortunate. Escaping from a POW camp, and bringing a dozen others out with you is a hero. There’s a big difference. Can the guy concentrate on a single issue for 5 minutes?
Posted by: Vincent | August 26, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Ster: “It’s business that CREATES wealth — sometimes out of thin-air!”
Actually no, it’s consumers. The current market has made this abundantly clear.
Without consumers, a business is doomed to fail. Low wage workers and the middle class have so squeezed by this administration that they only can spend on basic necessities. That’s why Wal-Mart is doing great but every other business is in deep doodoo.
Without people having money to spend, there’s no consumption. Without consumption, there’s no business. End of story.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 26, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
“He does not even stand up for what the Democrats want”
When do the Republicans finally settle on one narrative instead of hundreds? We’re supposed to believe that BO is *the most liberal senator walking the face on the earth”. And you’re telling us he’s actually a Blue Dog?
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 26, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
Underdog,
Perhaps you haven’t been following between the lines of all the Associated Press liberal run media machine (and yes, FOX get’s their news from AP too, so they’re screwed as well). The only repeat I see is a constant liberal cowardliness that has crippled the current administration. And what mistakes were made were made on both sides of the isle. Whatever upset’s you, there’s plenty of blame to go around! Also, half of the bipartisan fact finding mission launched over those mistakes was in fact seated by McCain. And I recall clearly that McCain was quite critical about the handling of Iraq. Remember too that the troop serge has been very successful, and has shown that there’s now light at the end of the tunnel. McCain supported the makings of that success, Obama voted against it. Thanks partially to McCain’s support, we may be able to soon redirect our attention to Afghanistan where such a focus is really badly needed. McCain can best lead on this issue. Obama hasn’t even been stable on his direction on these issues. Let’s get this straight, McCain is not Bush! Not an ounce of similarity at all! Bush didn’t listen to McCain early on. Had he done so, things would have been much different. Now’s a great chance to allow McCain to finally execute a strategy that will quickly and cost effectively bring a swift resolve to the middle east issues, and do so without a quick cowardly all-out pullout that will leave a country and region in devastation. By the way, did you know New York City is by far more dangerous than Baghdad? More people die on the NYC streets than on Baghdad streets on a daily average. NYC citizens are American’s, but who’s ending the violence there? And I didn’t even mention LA, or the other inner city killing fields. AP could care less for NYC or LA. They just sell the news that get’s commercial play (liberal lobbyists anyone?). But no, AP paints a different picture and the blind lemming liberals would follow AP off a cliff if led that direction! So don’t give me that broken record scenario. It’s too easy of an argument to have any bases in reality. The big picture is wider and more complicated than most can muster. And far too many trust AP to fill them in. If you want to look at a stuck loop, just look at the current house who’s liberal dominated, and has an approval rating far below that of Bush… Ouch! I’m sorry, but a two-faced ex-drug addict isn’t going to help matters. We really need McCain!
Posted by: WFD | August 26, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Ster: “THAT’S the American way”
That WAS the American way. The corporate way is to buy you out and do it much cheaper by outsourcing the work to Asia. And when you don’t want to sell, to compete you to death with a far more cheaper product from Asia or through selling the same product with a loss. They have the resources to outcompete you, the average American does not.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 26, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
POW is not a qualification for President of the United States any more than it is an answer for how many houses do you own. And the funny thing is, after the week of being made fun of, he still can’t get that answer right. He does not fit my definition of fit for office.
Posted by: Other Jill | August 26, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
McCain was excellent on the Jay Leno show… and he only brought up the POW story in response to Jay’s question about the number of houses Cindy owns.
The response was ‘ON TARGET” and in no way a “suck up” of his POW years.
He was articulate, gave some prophetic insight to some of this country’s problems, and, frankly I was proud of him!
He’ll be getting my vote!
Posted by: EYES WIDE OPEN.... | August 26, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
McCain is becoming a one-liner, or rather a one-worder: POW!
He’s beginning to remind us of the old TV Batman series in the ’60s. You all remember Adam West and Burt Ward as Batman and Robin when they would get in their fights with The Joker, and The Penguin and The Riddler, and the rest. The cartoon signs would be inserted in big letters on the screen: BANG! BONK! DING! BOINK! POW!….I knew you’d remember….It seems John only remembers POW! and inserts GOP! occasionally…Not enough for a tv show, and certainly not enough for a sequel!
Yelling POW! every time he forgets where a country is, or how many homes he has, or whether Sunni’s and Shia’s and Kurd’s like each other, or why he never learned much about economics other than to marry into it, or why affordable healthcare and the housing and mortgage crisis mean something to middle income Americans and why their taxes should be lowered not the multi-millionaires, simply will not suffice as a convincing argument.
I respect your service; I respect your status; but you are treating it like a joke when you ignore issues and throw out the word POW! like it is your magic wand.
I learned more about military integrity and personal integrity from my WWII Dad who seldom even mentioned or talked about his war days. He kept his medals respectfully in a box. It was only late in life that we learned what his Bronze Star was for. His view as he raised us was he did what his country asked, no explanation or excuses needed, and no special treatment asked for; and then he firmly told all of us to go get an education so we could learn enough to prevent wars, and earn our way with our families, and provide the leadership for our kids when it was the next generation’s turn to lead.
I am guided by his words. It is time for the next generation to put that education to work and provide the leadership that will make the world a better place. I will work for Barack Obama to be the next President of the United States. Join in this effort. Make our nation proud!
Posted by: BENIGHSE | August 26, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Many have commented on why can’t we have a civil debate.
I agree. I think of someone like William F. Buckley, Jr – conservative, yes. But very intelligent and humorous.
He would argue with the most liberal of liberals and yet – the debate was civil, even friendly. And, if the other person made a good point, he would agree. Gosh, agree with a liberal. Oh my God ;>)
Now, in this day of Rush and Coulter, you just don’t see that. I think Ron Paul has that attribute – I’ve heard him critize other politicians, but he was never mean spirited.
But no, we have to call each other idiots and when we do so, it really closes any room for debate.
Posted by: Mzars | August 26, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
cindy’s money bought his soul.
worse, most of those houses sit empty as investment properties. no one lives in them.
yet his economic advisor phil gramm helped regular americans lose their homes to foreclosure with his lobbying work for the bank UBS.
so maybe johm can put them up for the night.
since they have no house, no kitchen table, and no reason to feel as blessed as he is.
not really being a member of his church and all that.
Posted by: kravitz | August 26, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
Obama’s wife still hates America
Posted by: commie | August 26, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
Thanks, cincyr, but the point there was McCain is going to continue the ideologies currently set by the Bush Administration. He’s changed his tune quite a bit since he ran for the GOP ticket in 2000. It’s politics. He’s gotta say and do what it takes to get him elected. Same goes for Obama, but given the state of affairs now, why would anyone want more of this kind of Government? We need a different direction. I’m not sure it will improve, but of the two, I trust Obama to accomplish more for working families than a Bush wannabe.
Posted by: Words-VS-Actions | August 26, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am
Wow McCain, it’s so sad that all you have to deflect criticism at this point is your tired POW history. How many times can you use this as a response to every issue? The well is dry, so much for honest straight talk…
Posted by: Nick | August 26, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am
Someone said that Rudy’s sentences all contained a noun, a verb and 9/11. Substitute POW for 9/11 and you’ve got McCain. His attempts to invoke his POW experience into the housing matter are getting more and more embarassing. He needs to knock off irrelevant messages about the past and start telling us what he’s going to do about the future.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | August 26, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am
We get it, that’s all he’s got
Posted by: NOUN, VERB POW | August 26, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
SO OBAMA IS AGAINST THE AMERICAN DREAM NOW EVEN FOR FORMER PRISONERS OF WAR
Posted by: Lexi | August 26, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
ANOTHER SEXIST ATTACK BY THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN…
They seem to have a problem with successful women like Cindy McCain and Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Renee | August 26, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am
McCain just doesn’t get it. He’s out of touch.
“What it has to do with putting Americans in houses and keeping in their homes. And that’s what I’m gong to do.”
Right. Foreclosures all over the place, telling people to take second jobs, forego a holiday, not having a clue about the price of groceries, taking an entire motorcade to Starbucks so he could pick up a lousy cup of coffee .. what does he know about life as it’s lived.
That’s the point. But it’s an inconvenient point for people who just like to interpret this as an attack upon those with wealth. Because they really couldn’t give a damn about their neighbour. Just about themselves and who they can screw to the wall so they can climb on their backs.
Greed is so ugly.
Posted by: Media Weasel | August 26, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
@ Renee: What? Seriously, what does that have to do with anything? Go vote McCain in order to push your bitter brand of faux feminism. I’m sure that will show those sexists!
Posted by: An Actual Feminist | August 26, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Full honesty please!!
This is not a story about the American dream, but instead the use of a powerful story that many have lived but that few use regularly to explain all actions throughout their lives. Whether one chooses to support McCain or Obama, we shouldn’t feel good about campaigns that use such a powerful story to explain minor (number of houses) and major (infidelity) mistakes. This is a disservice to the experience that so many faced and lived through, but an even greater disservice to those that perished due to worse conditions.
Rather than coming to a conclusion about McCain or Obama when this type of story is done, blind backers of each try to invoke the other to justify or excuse actions of their favorite. This is not productive at all, and indicative of a rotted system. In this case, it is clear that McCain is only hurting himself by taking a powerful strength to explain something stupid away.
The only relevant question is: Is McCain correct in using his POW story to answer the houses question? For me the answer is a strong NO.
Judge THIS story and don’t state lies, it serves no one and discredits your argument. Couldn’t go through all the comments but here are two good examples:
McCain is a citizen of Panama. How is he running for president?
Obama who hates America and disrespects our honorable military men/women.
Do we deserve good leadership?
Posted by: riceowls | August 26, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
McCain was hilarious last night!
Leno made jokes about houses being flooded in Florida and most of them belonged to McCain.
He said McCain was a war hero in the Civil War.
Then McCain came out and said “you forgot to mention I warned that the British were coming”.
I used to support McCain because I can’t stand Obama–but now I really like McCain and trust his experience.
Posted by: riley | August 26, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
As i read articles,blogs, personal comments etc..I’m amazed at how divided this country is. “Bush” the great divider has suceeded.The middle class is deteriorating by the minute and our prejudices will elect another GW Bush in november.As far as the POW issue. Like Guilliani and 911, he has nothing to really talk about. God bless him for his service but at least he didn’t wind up like the 4,000 plus that he helped send to that crime of a war in Iraq
Posted by: jp | August 26, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
The people that find Leno funny nowadays are what’s wrong with America.
Posted by: A McB | August 26, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
I don’t care if it’s Cindy or John who owns the homes, the fact that they are so wealthy, coupled with Senator McCain’s own admission that he doesn’t really understand economics, coupled with his economic advisor’s comments that we’re only in a mental recession and that people need to stop whining, suggests to me that John McCain isn’t really the guy who is going to be fixing the economy.
He and his advisors just don’t get it.
Posted by: PetraK | August 26, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
You libs are something else, first the McCains are not that wealthy, if you read and correctly he owns mostly condos that they live in 3 of 5, the other properties are investment properties.
At least they bought their own homes, unlike Obama who owes his home to slum lord Rezko, while Rezko watched over the poor live in sub-sub-sub-standard housing, he helped Obama by a mansion , which is problably worth more money then all of McCains homes put together!!
mccain only has about 5 million, Obama no one knows, kerry 100′s of millions, Kennedy 100′s of millions
Gore making 100′s of millions off the fraudualnt global warming fears
Should I go on,
The difference here is Republicans believe in Growth you libs say one thing and live another!!
Tax the poor so the libs can live in mansions!!
Posted by: spock | August 26, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
riceowl – McCain is a Natural Born Citizen
Now Jake you should do a story on Obama who can not seem to find his Birth Certificate and Hawaii has no record of him!!
So is Obama a Citizen is the question?
Posted by: spock | August 26, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
SPOCK-
I know, but what I put in my previous comment were two examples found in other comments to show how ridiculous the discussion often becomes. Another example being your odd claim that Hawaii has no record of Obama. There is no question about either candidates citizenship and to devote any time to the topic avoids discussing truly important topics.
So spock, we have to be careful with what we bring up in these discussions. You should be frustrated by someone questioning McCain’s citizenship status as I was and all of us should be. But we should also be equally frustrated by stupid and erroneous questions being raised about Obama’s citizenship like you just did. We quickly become puppets of party agendas if we blindly endorse anything as long as it has the backing of the right letter, D or R.
Have to get back to studying. Just wanted to say that I might not convince spock or others to avoid using what they themselves must know are baseless claims, but to feed on this political garbage is not only an indicator of the stagnation of ideas that exists in politics, but also of our own mental stagnation. While I’m trying to figure out a way to pay for med school and I hear lies about Obama or McCain I get angry, because it is a waste of all our time.
I do have a favorite in the race but to know that someone in each of the parties thinks so little of me and all of us to lie about these all too often marginal issues really angers me. I will not continue the chain by disseminating lies about either. Where is the discussion on health care? Where is the discussion on renewable energy resources (and no, sound bites don’t count)? We deserve better.
Good luck to whatever candidate you want to win everyone!
Posted by: riceowl | August 26, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
gee you all must be doing better than you were four or eight years ago–
if not – and you are like most people- stop the silly posts and get real
this country is in a mess
it is not 1960 0r 1970
Past or Future –
McCain is the son and grandson or admirals – he was a POW – but examine the record – whch he had sealed — the old Swift Boat people are now forming Swift bost for Viet Nam vets -
There is a reason he had his records sealed – none of this would matter if he wasn’t running on his POW record – but that is his answer to everything so now he may need to answer for his own actions during that time
Posted by: alison | August 26, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
spock you fool
go to FACT CHECK.org
Obams’s birth records are beyond dispute
He is an American
don’t vote for him if you don’t want but don’t make things up
Posted by: AMBER | August 26, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
There’s a international crisis in the former USSR state of Georgia.
McCain is sending his VP Cindy McCain to evaluate and contain the situation.
Our current Monarchs the Bushes are “out to lunch”, heck
after running the country into the ground they’ve decided to run out for a
long lunch break, maybe until November. Guess they figured, what the heck?
we’re out anyway, let’s just kick back and steal office supplies.
McCain’s got it under control, my people are in his camp and with FOX News
behind the McCains, here we go, 4 more years ! 4 MORE years! FOUR MORE YEARS!
Posted by: Nina | August 27, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
I am convinced that that the activities that we partake in DO say something about us. Neither presidential party is delivering what I would like in the next POTUS…however, I will likely choose the man the is LESS the socialist, LESS the the taxationist, LESS the pro-abortionist, with LESS the history of drug abuse and MORE of the history of serving his country and the MOST experience. McCain is not perfect. There are allegations of his infidelity from his first wife…in those situations, the outsiders never know the full story. In the POW situation, I found the first hand account that was recorded in 1973 and still available on-line very enlightening. It is lengthy and demonstrates that McCain did have a braking point after much unrelenting torture. I would challenge you to read it if you desire to be better informed or you don’t believe that this experience says anything about the character of a man.
As far as I can see, Mr. Obama did not choose to serve in the military. At about the same age he was self-admittedly angry and “inhaling” “that was the point”…that is my recollections of his statements.
I read as much as I can about both candidates. In the past, I have voted for either ticket depending on my convictions.
Posted by: de | August 29, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am
OMG…what is up with that stupid ? about how many houses they have??? Like it has anything to do with his politics or the campaign, not to mention that the people asking the ? are soooo hypocritical I could gag…they probably have several houses themselves. I am so sick of this ???, why is it acceptable to ask someone how wealthy they are, but you would never bash someone for being poor…their wealth (as long as it didn’t come from ripping off Americans) should have nothing to do with politics!!!
Posted by: Enough with the stupid house ??? | October 1, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
McCain is NO maverick. He is living in the past. He even addressed his followers as “My fellow prisoners”. Something is not right with this guy. I would never want him to be our leader in times of crisis. If he was President and we were attacked his first move would probably be to announce he was suspending his campaign forgetting that the campaign was long over with.
Posted by: JH | November 1, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am