People Who Live in Seven Glass Houses….
CHESTER, VIRGINIA – Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, just hit Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., for a Politico interview in which he said he wasn’t sure how many houses he has.
Asked how many houses he and his wife Cindy own, McCain told Jonathan Martin and Mike Allen "I think – I’ll have my staff get to you. It’s condominiums where – I’ll have them get to you."
It seemed a real gaffe for a politician who is trying to paint Obama as an elitist.
So this morning, after acknowledging that McCain "has a compelling personal story" as a Vietnam P.O.W. who "went through some things that none of us could imagine," Obama pivoted to his new attack that McCain is out of touch.
First he noted that McCain said that the U.S. is making "great progress economically."
"Who’s he talking to?" Obama asked.
Then he cited McCain’s "joke" from the forum at Saddleback Church when he offered to Pastor Rick Warren the definition that someone who’s rich is someone who makes $5 million a year.
"I guess if you’re only making $3 million a year then you’re middle class," Obama said. "I guess that’s what he meant."
Obama then cited the controversial comments by McCain economic adviser and former Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, that the U.S. had "become a nation of whiners," and that the country was in a "mental recession."
Obama said that McCain said recently, "I think the economy is fundamentally strong."
"This puzzled me," Obama said. "Then there was another interview the same day…Somebody asked John McCain, ‘How many houses do you have?’ and he said, ‘I’m not sure, I’ll have to check with my staff.’"
The crowd laughed.
"True quote!" Obama said. "’I’m not sure, I’ll have to check with my staff.’ So they asked his staff and he said, ‘at least four.’ ‘at least four.’
"Now think about that," Obama told the crowd, "I guess if you think that being rich means you gotta make five million dollars, and if you don’t know how many houses you have, then it’s not surprising that you might think the economy is fundamentally strong.
"But if you’re like me and you’ve got one house," he continued, "or you’re like the millions of people who are struggling right now to keep up with their mortgage so that they don’t lose their home, you might have a different perspective.
"By the way, the answer is John McCain has seven homes," Obama said. "So there’s just a fundamental gap of understanding between John McCain’s world and what people are going through every single day here in America. And you don’t’ have to be…a Nobel Prize laureate economist. You just have to have a little bit of a sense of what ordinary people are going through to understand that we cant afford eight more years or four more years or one more year of the same failed economic policies that George Bush has put in place."
McCain spox Brian Rogers issued a response statement saying, “Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses? Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people ‘cling’ to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who’s in touch with regular Americans? The reality is that Barack Obama’s plans to raise taxes and opposition to producing more energy here at home as gas prices skyrocket show he’s completely out of touch with the concerns of average Americans.”
– Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller
UPDATE: Obama campaign’s new TV ad attacking McCain on the subject.
The script says: "when asked how many houses he owns, he lost track, he couldn’t remember. Well, it’s seven. Seven houses. And here’s one house that America cannot afford to let John McCain move into," the ad concludes, showing an image of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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How about that McCain response! Wow, nothing like the toasty smell of desperation in the morning. Cripes, you can hear them sputtering..
Wait, isn’t Obama playing the race card here……….
Posted by: Tungsten | August 21, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Indeed Barack Obama, if we are like you and have only one house which was made possible by a shady land deal with a contributor to your campaign…….indeed.
Posted by: JA | August 21, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
“….But if you’re like me and you’ve got one house……..”
Yes, Mr. Obama, and we all know who you rubbed elbows with to obtain that house…………………………..
Posted by: SandyB | August 21, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
McCain and his cute wife are worth more than $100m and 7 houses that they cant even remember. Do they look like ordinary working people with 1 houses each. They have a private jet too.
They are elitist and out of touch with the common American.
Posted by: Krista | August 21, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
The McCains – bought houses that they could afford
The Obamas – bought a house they couldn’t afford with the help of a convicted felon
Let me know which you think is worse. A person who has money and invests it in real estate, or a person who tries to get around the system to live beyond their means.
Obama once again opens a can of worms. Their campaign is in disaster.
Posted by: JA | August 21, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
A man who bought his own mansion under some pretty shady circumstances has no business commenting on anyone’s homes. I thought Obama was supposed to be the new kind of politician? He sounds pretty typical to me.
Posted by: Carrie | August 21, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
McCain would be laughable were he not so pathetic.
Posted by: Ellen | August 21, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
What’s wrong with owning 7 houses?
What’s wrong with getting some financial help from a convicted fellon recently indicted for political corruption and influence peddling to buy a house….
oh, wait a minute.
Posted by: Sammy | August 21, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Food for Serious Thought
In North Carolina town meeting the last question came from a homeless veteran that was living in a shelter with other veterans. Obama gave his campaign speech “a stump substantive answer” to fix the problems. The homeless veteran can only wonder if the man deemed to be President that promises to fix everything, for everyone, at every stop, will ever do anything.
Obama has “no passion”. If he in fact believed what he was saying that it was that it was so outrageous, disgraceful and dishonorable for the veterans to be treated in this manner he would have said —— let’s drive over to the shelter, meet the veterans, talk with the people that are giving their services to help these veterans, see if these people providing the services can suggest something that we can do to help. He could have taken the opportunity to fix or assist in an issue that he called “his passion”. He had time. From the town meeting he went to the Farmer’s market to have a photo shot and buy a few peaches
Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Sammy,
LOL
Posted by: JA | August 21, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
I think its funny that Obama just has to use McCains own words and the republican guy has to make up all kinds of stuff that Obama never said.
Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
I think Obama has a perfect opportunity to take the charge from McCain that he’s out of touch, and throw it back in his face.
Life is good.
Posted by: ChrisNBama | August 21, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
McCain is not like other Americans. The only private sector job he has had since he was 18 was working for his father-in-law.
McCain is entirely a creature of Washington and the ultra-rich. As a member of the ultra-rich set, his wife loaned him a corporate jet to fly him around the country when he ran his campaign into backrupcy last summer.
As a member of the ultra-rich, he has SEVEN multi-million dollar houses, just like ordinary people. As a member of the ultra-rich, he doesn’t think it is news that his wife has a half a million dollars balance on her credit card.
As a member of the ultra-rich, he says that we should have a special graduated tax break: The rich get a tax cut of 10 times the average salary of the middle class. The ultra-rich get a tax cut of 100 times the average salary of the middle class.
As a member of the ultra-rich, he thinks that the oil companies aren’t earning enough profit, therefore he opposes making them pay the market rate for oil pumped out of public lands.
Posted by: John's conscience | August 21, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Teresa Heinz Kerry is worth multiples more than Cindy McCain. I didn’t see democrats complaining about his wealth four years ago. Lots of houses, too, including a mansion in Georgetown. John Kennedy was born into extreme wealth. FDR was wealthy as well — his dad was president of one railroad and VP of another.
Nice try — Obama — the man without a plan.
Posted by: katmandu | August 21, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Wow. Reading the responses from the McCain supporters tells me that a nerve has definitely been struck with this. Are you guys really sure you want to play the Rezko card knowing that the Charles Keating card is still somewhere in the deck?
Posted by: Devin | August 21, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
And the Obama campaign’s response should be: does McCain really want to start comparing ties to convicted felons? Keating Five, anyone?
Posted by: Gretchen | August 21, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
From Wikipedia –
To date, Teresa Heinz has declined to disclose her personal tax returns, citing family trusts and privacy. She is estimated to be worth between $750 million and $1.2 billion. According to her most recently released income tax of 2003, Kerry and Heinz paid an effective federal income tax rate of 12%.
Posted by: katmandu | August 21, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Arugula? you’ve got to be kidding.
McCain doesn’t understand the economy. He’s out of touch. He’s reckless on foreign policy (can’t wait to fight the “Russian empire” and wants to stay in Iraq forever, bomb bomb bomb Iran, etc.)
Rather than give a serious answer to Warren’s question (as Obama did), he “jokes” about $5 million being middle class. He doesn’t care about ordinary americans, he’ll destroy the middle class- and he has the tax policy to prove it.
Posted by: Ruth | August 21, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
what is worse/scarier: that McCain has so many houses that he cant remember how many he actually has, or that he may have literally forgotten where his houses are or how many he has?
How can a guy who doesn’t even know how many houses he owns possibly feel our pain or know what we are going through?
Posted by: Dan | August 21, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Also- for all those commenters desperately bringing up Teresa Kerry, FDR, etc. the point is: you can be rich and have good policies that will help the middle class. Kerry did, FDR did, Obama who recently earned $$ from writing books and paid off his student loans does. But McCain has terrible economic policy that will extend and worsen Bush’s policies. And on top of that his answers show he’s out of touch and really doesn’t care about ordinary Americans.
Posted by: Ruth | August 21, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Obama shouldn’t be such a hypocrite. Those condos are owned by the wife and Obama has made it clear that his spouse is ‘off-limits’. So much for do unto others and I insist they do not do to me……
Posted by: David, Charlotte, NC | August 21, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Wait – doesn’t Obama have a mortgage on his house? So, he doesn’t own anything – the bank does. Liar! At least McCain probably does actually OWN the houses.
Posted by: ERD | August 21, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Sick an tired of always hearing about the money. All you strong DMC supporters lets talk about the Kennedy money…..no complaints.
Posted by: William | August 21, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
You forgot to mention McCain forgot to pay tax on his Califonia home for 6 years.
Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Tell us more about your home Obama. and what about the sweetheart mortgage deals of Dodd and other Obama supporters?
Posted by: geevill | August 21, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Seven Homes he can’t remember, 5 million is rich, telling the world our economy is strong while not even knowing the price of gas, but don’t worry Americans! Per McCain, we are rich in “other” ways so if you have a good family life and are homeless thanks to the foreclosure crises you are rich by McCain’s standards.
Posted by: No Draft | August 21, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
I think Obama just stumbled onto what his ideal occupation should be, because he sounds like he thinks he’s Chris Rock the comedian. Is that what he’s running for? Comedian in Chief? He certainly is not even close to being ready to “put his feet up on the Oval Office desk” as he so desires.
Also take note of the difference between the two campaigns. On the one hand you have McCain very deftly attacking and labeling Obama with their “celebrity” ad, on the other you have Obama flailing away wildly, trying everything they can try in a futile attempt to label someone who has been widely known by Americans for almost 40 years.
Posted by: OxyCon | August 21, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
So McCain’s either too rich to know how many houses he has, or he’s getting senile. Based on previous gaffes and absentmindedness, I’m guessing senile.
That Rezko thing is old news. The Rezko trials are over, and Obama wasn’t even mentioned in them.
There’s no scandal regarding Obama’s (one) home.
Nice try though.
Posted by: julie | August 21, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Exactly…..
The reason McCain does not know for sure how many houses “they” own is because he and his wife keep separate finances, and file income taxes separately.
I am certain most of the property is part of her estate, and that is why McCain advised them to check with someone else for a correct number (as her money is probably being invested in various real estate and other enterprises on a regular basis) rather than give out inaccurate information.
However, if Obama was so quick to point out that they own seven houses, he and his team must have been doing a lot of homework to latch onto that number so quickly. Almost like he was just waiting for an opportunity to spout off about how many houses the McCains own……………
Posted by: SandyB | August 21, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Obama supporters, have you read the latimes link i posted.
ex-Obama Supporter
Mccain’08
Posted by: adam | August 21, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
In going negative on Obama, John McCain has goaded Obama into doing the same thing. This works to McCain’s advantage, since McCain doesn’t pretend to be anything other than what he is – a war hero, and a politician. Obama presented himself as “the new politics.” In attacking McCain, he works against his own message. The fact that he is attacking a war hero doubles or triples the damage Obama and his surrogates do to his own candidacy. Even people who don’t like John McCain’s policies admire his service to his country, his unassailable patriotism, and the fact that he remained a prisoner of war when he did not have to. For Obama to make silly comments on the number of houses John McCain’s wealthy wife owns is a mistake. First, Obama lives in a mansion purchased under questionable circumstances. Second, he is making a personal attack on a man even many Democrats, such as myself, respect and admire. It’s no wonder the polls are tightening. As time goes by, Obama looks more and more like a typical politician, and John McCain looks more and more like a war hero under attack by an increasing desperate, typical politican. Brilliant strategy by the McCain campaign.
Posted by: Disappointed in Dems | August 21, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
I love to see the MSM try to shove Obama down eveyrone’s throat. I just hope the stratedgy backfires in November like it did with Gore/Kerry. The last 2 elections every news story was Gore or Kerry and how wonderful and great they were. I think people are sick of seeing Obama. I actually considered Obama over McCain until I got so sick of seeing him on everything.
Posted by: Mark | August 21, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Who gives a damn how many houses McCain has, that has nothing to do with the Campaign, if they are his or his wife’s or whoever they have nothing to do with anything. Do we as Americans have a problem with wealth? why is that a problem, that is the American Dream, people come to this country to find wealth, happiness, etc. why do we take issue with people that have plenty? we are not Third World, this is ridiculous.
Posted by: Kim | August 21, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
And the answer to the McCain campaign is, yes? Let’s talk a little about what the difference between John McCain’s world and the average American’s world looks like right now. Obama isn’t average either, but he is not so far removed from my reality that he can’t see it from where he is. Besides his biography shows that he actually cares. McCain has never lived like most of us live. He not only hasn’t got a clue, he doesn’t care enough to get the basics so he can fake it.
Posted by: Eric | August 21, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Julie,
Sorry, but having a campaign contributor assist you in purchasing your house is indeed a scandal. It might not get you sent to jail, but it is scandalous.
And last I checked the McCains’ purchase of their homes was done legally and involved no shady real estate transactions.
If you want to talk about real estate, by all means let’s do so. Let’s examine both side:
The McCains – have a good real estate portfolio, likely most are deeded to Cindy McCain or a trust owned by her
The Obamas – bought a house that was beyond their means with the help of a convicted felon and a major campaign contributor.
Let me know which you think deserves condemnation. Someone who has money and invests it, or someone who doesn’t have enough money so tries to work the system to his advantage.
Incidentally, this provides a good metaphor for the campaign.
Posted by: JA | August 21, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
All the money McCain made from his books given to Charity.
All these wealth are Cindy’s and she maintains separate account.
How much money lord Obama controbuted to charity. All his controbution were to Wright
Posted by: adam | August 21, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Here comes the assault and distortions. They need to answer for this before jumping the gun here. The McCain’s response is clear showing he’s being defensive. They did not address the real issue. They just went on the attack, hoping people will ignore the real question.
Posted by: D | August 21, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
I wonder if McCain was deliberately minimizing how many houses he had, or if he actually couldn’t keep track? I would be more concerned if he doesn’t have the mental acuity to know how many homes he owns. But maybe was both befuddled and minimizing to the question . . .
Posted by: kat | August 21, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Oh come on folks. McCain loses on this one. He tried to paint Obama as Elitist and out of touch, when in reality it is McCain’s problem.
When a man can’t count how many houses he owns, he has too many, and he certainly can not identify with my problems at all.
This is one of those gaffs that will hang around for some time. Best gird up your groins
Posted by: Thinking | August 21, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Gretchen,
No, YOU do not know what you’re talking about. They had “clearance” but it was later retracted. It is suspected that Ayers himself had something to do with that.
Posted by: JA | August 21, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Now that Obama has made hoouses an issue no one will complain when McCain airs a Rezko ad -will they?
Posted by: geevill | August 21, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
“This is an example of the Leftist dream for America. The Left’s arguments will always win if you can edit out “uncomfortable” opposing points of view”.
LONG LIVE FREE SPEECH!
Posted by: Sammy | August 21, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Whatever money the Obamas have, they worked for. The money the McCains have was inherited from Cindy’s Daddy. Remember what a grand time the Republicans had in 2004 calling John Kerry “a kept man” because his wife was an heiress. What’s different now?
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | August 21, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Gretchen,
And please stop spreading lies. McCain was CLEARED of all charges. Research it!
“The Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of McCain in the scheme was also minimal, and he too was cleared of all charges against him”
“Several accounts of the controversy contend that McCain was included in the investigation primarily so that there would be at least one Republican target”
“Democrat Robert S. Bennett, who was the special investigator during the scandal, suggested to the Senate Ethics Committee that it pursue charges against neither McCain nor Glenn, saying of McCain, “that there was no evidence against him.”
Let’s speak the truth here!
Posted by: JA | August 21, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Posted by Julie: “So McCain’s either too rich to know how many houses he has, or he’s getting senile.” Another brilliant strategy on the part of Obama supporters: attack McCain on his age, and alienate senior citizens, the most reliable of voting blocs, and a voting bloc leaning heavily toward McCain. Absolutely brilliant!!!
Posted by: Disappointed in Dems | August 21, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
I would say this doesn’t hold any water but since mccain is saying he is the average Joe and Obama is an elite I would hammer this untill it bled then I would hammer it some more. At least Obama knows how many houses he has. LOL!! Is this just Mccains memory? Old age perhaps? Or is he just that out of touch?
Posted by: Joe | August 21, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Obama’s new mantra -”he wants to continue the same economic policies that George Bush has been doing for the last 8 years.”
Desperation time for the fading one.
Posted by: geevill | August 21, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
JA, please keep things straight: there was no initial clearance. The UIC first said it would release the documents. That is what was “retracted.” The UIC retracted its willingness to release the documents because it never had clearance from all of the donors (who have privacy act-protected information in the materials). “It is suspected” that those who think these documents are being blocked by Ayers or others for some reason related to this campaign need to get outside a little more.
Posted by: Gretchen | August 21, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
BHO is sitting pretty re $$ also – he is not living in a shack..let us see what number of houses he has when he is 71 years old – by that time his 6th book about himself will be out..
Posted by: seattledude | August 21, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Brooklyn Democrat,
The Obamas earned their money???? What???
Michelle Obama was promoted and her salary doubled at the University of Chicago Hospitals soon after Barack Obama won the Senate seat. She had no credentials to boost her suddenly. IT WAS A POLITICAL APPOINTMENT BY U OF C.
Posted by: JA | August 21, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Obama is such an immature jerk.
McCain doesn’t know how many “houses” he owns because at least one of the “houses,” for example, is a condominium that Cindy McCain’s aunt lives in, and McCain is not sure if he owns it, if she owns it, if the aunt owns it, or if it is owned by a family trust, since he had absolutely nothing to do with the transaction in the first place.
By all means, Obama, raise another issue that makes McCain look like a saint compared to you, since your greatest charitable contribution in your life was $25,000 to support the vile rantings of the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. God forbid that McCain and his wife should buy a condo for a homeless relative and forget exactly whose names are on the deed.
Anyone who says that just because a person is wealthy they’re necessarily “out of touch” with the concerns of American people is a demagogue who’s trying to play on the resentments of unfortunate and ignorant people.
And as McCain pointed out, perhaps someone who lives in a glass house bought for him by a convicted felon should not throw stones.
Posted by: CFB | August 21, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
I guess this means that all sucessful Americans like Bob Hope (known to have owned a LOT of land and homes), etc., should all be thrown under the bus now. You own several homes you are an a successful American and you will have no rights in the forthcoming socialist America. Being rich does not mean that you are un-American. I do not care if my fellow Americans have several homes or drive nicer cars than I do…there are much bigger issues at hand.
Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
JA – And the hundreds of thousands of dollars, trips and insider Keating 5 deals regarding Mccain was ethical? OMG! The only reason Mccain’s convictions were overturned were due to technicalities. Obama has never run afoul of the law.
Posted by: no Draft | August 21, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
It really is sad that Barack Obama would attack anyone on the number of houses they own. I’m sure the McCains paid a fair price for their homes. BTW, I seem to remember that the Clintons gave a full 10% of their income to charity every single year, while the Obamas gave less than 1%. That was one statistic the Obama-media didn’t publicize very much.
Posted by: Disappointed in Dems | August 21, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
JA, the Senate Ethics Committee also reprimanded McCain for his poor judgment (heh) and he has acknowledged that it was so.
So, if all is no big deal with McCain and the Keating Five scandal, why is Obama’s involvement with Rezko such a big deal? Obama was never even charged with anything, and he has similarly referred to his relationship with the man as “boneheaded.” If one is no big deal, than neither should the other be.
Posted by: Gretchen | August 21, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
Gretchen,
Let me know what you think of this:
“People keep trying to align himself [Ayers] with Barack Obama,” Daley said. “It’s really unfortunate. They’re friends. So what? ”
Obama LIED when he said he wasn’t friends with Ayers. Those docs will minimally show that. What they will also show are more of his policy views, which were extremely liberal before he got in the limelight.
Posted by: JA | August 21, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
JA, I lived in Chicago for years. I think I know plenty of the Daleys. Not exactly sure what they have to do with anything (really, don’t play guilt by association, McCain has a much longer record of associations and will not win that one).
Posted by: Gretchen | August 21, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
No Draft,
What technicalities? McCain was not cleared on any “technicalities”, he was cleared because he did nothing wrong. He even openly held a 2 hour press conference allowing open questions after it was over. Obviously he had nothing to hide.
Posted by: JA | August 21, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
you have many houses, one for every season…
or is that women he cheated on his first wife with…
and i hear cindy did not meet mother theresa either….
coming undone is not pretty when the press actually asks mccain a question and there are witnesses to his failures.
Posted by: kravitz | August 21, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Gretchen,
I lived in Chicago for a decade, and if you don’t know the connection between the Daleys and the UIC library YOU ARE LOST. The docs in question are part of the RICHARD J DALEY LIBRARY.
Posted by: JA | August 21, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
The question itself is designed to attack. How many homes does Gore or Pelosi, or George Soros, or the Kennedys have? I agree, McCain is wealthy. But it is illogical to presume that wealth indicates that you are automatically “out of touch.” That is a typical Democratic attack…I thought Obama was above negative campaigning.
I can see why McCain does not want to fess up to being loaded. In America, everyone says they are “upper middle class,” unless they are really wealthy, right?
So, it’s okay for journalists to ask McCain about his legitimately purchased homes and not about Obama’s sweetheart deal with Rezko? Or, how about, what is your net worth, Obama? He made about $4 mil last year ( I am guessing)? If so, he is “rich,” and “out of touch” too, right?
Posted by: Wade | August 21, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Gretchen,
I once again ask you to do your research. Ayers KICKED OFF OBAMAS POLITICAL CAREER AT A FUNDRAISER AT HIS (AYERS’) HOUSE.
What other evidence do you need of their close friendship?????
Posted by: JA | August 21, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Are we really debating how many houses a guy owns? I dont care if he has a hundred, as long as they were acquired legally. Speaking of Rezko…., let me ask you George, oh wait, that’s your brother.
Posted by: keepyourheelsdown | August 21, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
JA: you are a funny one. Ok, so the Daleys endowed a library where records are kept. You think that gives them control over the records inside? Clearly, you do not know how libraries work (oh, and I’m a librarian, so I kind of do). Do the Daleys have control over everything named after them? Because there’s a lot of stuff named after them in Chicago.
Thanks, I love the conspiracy stuff. It gives me a good laugh during my lunch break (which is over now, so I have to go back to work). Keep on at it! I’m sure you’ll find that missing link if you just try hard enough!
Posted by: Gretchen | August 21, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
What’s disturbing, is not that he couldn’t remember how many houses he owns, but that he couldn’t handle such a simple question — he had to punt it to an adviser. I sure hope the Red Phone doesn’t ring at 3 a.m. if he becomes President. Here’s how the conversation might go: Ah duh this is John, I mean President John. What did you say, um er duh I don’t remember how many houses I own.
Posted by: James | August 21, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Yes, Obama will raise taxes, but on the top money earners on this country. These are the people who get ALL the tax breaks every year while us peons are paying oiur taxes.BTW, anyone who walks around in $800 loafer is certainly an elitist.
Posted by: cindyct | August 21, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
This explains why McCain didn’t pay the taxes on one of them.
Posted by: Thinking | August 21, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Not knowing what to say when the red phone rings at 3 a.m., and not knowing the most recent count on the number of homes your wife has acquired through investing her family money is quite another.
At least when the phone rings at 3 a.m., McCain won’t say it’s “above his pay grade” to provide an answer………
Posted by: SandyB | August 21, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
“By the way, the answer is John McCain has seven homes,” Obama said
Huh? So why is it Obama knows this? Can themedia follow up and have him explain this.
Posted by: geevill | August 21, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Marianne…think about the alternative:
And this country will be in a greater disaster than what it is if he is elected
If Mccain gets in we will have 4 more years of Bush…if he lives that long…watch who he put in the VP position. He may be the president in a few years.
Posted by: truthtell | August 21, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
What strikes me as far more damaging to McCain than the sheer number of properties he owns is the fact that many of these “homes” look just like beach resorts (because they are). Not exactly cribs we can relate to. It’s no wonder the only home one ever hears about is McCain’s homage to G.W. Bush — his fake Arizona “ranch.”
Posted by: JT | August 21, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
geevil…oh come on…get real…each campaign know EVERYTHING about the other. They probably know what time they go to the bathroom. That’s politics…
Posted by: thoughtful | August 21, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
“At least when the phone rings at 3 a.m., McCain won’t say it’s “above his pay grade” to provide an answer………”
That really says it all doesn’t it. Uhhh…PRESENT!
Posted by: Mack | August 21, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
McCain is out of touch. If this is covered more we’ll start to hear about his $500 dollar shoes and his 7 houses and his (wife’s) private jet. People who are trying to make this about Obama are flailing woefully.
It comes down to this:
John McCain has never known what it’s like to have personal economic strife. He never will.
Posted by: Ryan | August 21, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
McCain has 7 homes? Then I must vote for Obama?
Yeah, that ad is as stupid as it sounds.
Posted by: geevill | August 21, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Obama — 57 States and counting??–and is he “really and American Citizen”??–will someone PLEASSSSSE LOOK INTO THAT!!MEDIA PEOPLE!!!!
Posted by: dj | August 21, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
The old man is OUT OF TOUCH BIG TIME
Posted by: McCain is SO OUT OF TOCH | August 21, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
So much for the One Lightworker being a new kind of politician. Sounds like pretty typical south Chicago counter-punching.
But however many houses McCain owns, its a sure bet none were purchased through a sweetheart land deal with convicted felon Tony Reszko.
Posted by: Bill45 | August 21, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Who are you kidding SandyB? McCain won’t be able to wake up at 3:00AM with all the Ambien he’s taking to get to sleep.
And even if he does manage to rise to that 3:00AM challenge, you can bet his first reaction will be to reach for his trusty saber so he can rattle the threat away.
Worse than Bush? Abso-damn-lotely.
Posted by: SpinDR | August 21, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
JA-Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion. His convictions were overturned on technicalities; for example, the federal conviction was overturned because jurors had heard about his state conviction, and his state charges because Judge Lance Ito (yes, that judge) screwed up jury instructions. Neither court cleared him, and he faces new trials in both courts.)
Though he was not convicted of anything, McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating’s airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating’s luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain’s wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a “sweetheart deal.”
McCain does a lot of “favors” for his associates. i.e. Gramm, Keating, Reed
Posted by: no Draft | August 21, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
McCain’s campaign staff counts 4 houses across the country, but Newsweek and the Washington Post count 7. Which is it John McCain? — Boy, McCain’s maverick “straight talk” is just so refreshing, err, well entertaining anyway.
Posted by: john | August 21, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
McCain’s spokesperson is trying to portray Obama as an elitist because he vacationed in Hawaii on a private beach. Two problems with that, first is that his grandmother lives in Hawaii, and secondly there are no private beaches in Hawaii.
Posted by: ewp | August 21, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
If we are bringing dirt …remember the Keating five?The saving and loans fiasco?
Posted by: Illinois209 | August 21, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
geevil…the point is that McCain is out of touch…which he is..You say no one should be bothering him at 3AM? OK who should they call Hillary?
Posted by: truthtell | August 21, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
These arguements are about who’s richer or dirtier are nuts. Every single politician is dirty, so get over it. They get used more than a 10 dollar hooker. Only idiots mix their politics with religion, and I’m embarassed Obama has drank the Kool Aid. This house thing is totally fair game and about time. Obama is elite, Please! John McCain has been the benefactor of much that has insulated him from reality. Some might say worse than GW Bush. I think they are probably both fine humans, so let the deciding point be… do you want another Republican administration to consolidate control over our fragile democracy or do you want a balancing swing to reset the pendulum. Its two parties, not two ideologies. But we better get some checks for our balances before we’re all bankrupt.
Posted by: Disgusted | August 21, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
“reach for his trusty saber so he can rattle the threat away.”
And Obama’s policy is to appease the threat away? Or raise the white flag?
Posted by: Mack | August 21, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
i wish i had so many houses i needed staff to count them for me.
Posted by: cleek | August 21, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
How many magazine covers has Obama been on? Here is another one……..
TIME MAG PUTS OBAMA ON COVER — FOR 7TH TIME IN A YEAR!
Talk about media bias.
So if you own 7 homes, you can’t run for President?
How many homes do the Kennedy’s own — I mean how many “compounds” do they own?
How many homes does John “Heinz” Kerry own?
Posted by: susie | August 21, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
John McCain says he wants us all to be rich … and I think that’s great! … buy some more houses John and help the economy!!
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | August 21, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
McCain and the right made this an issue when McCain and his buddies (Hannity Oreilly) decided to call Obama an “Elitist”.
It a classic Rove tactic. Attack the other on your weakness.
Guess what. Obama called it and is going to hammer this home.
Posted by: Grant | August 21, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
disgusted…no one is perfect…we all have done things we regret. You’ll never get a “virgin” in office because most of these guys( and girls) had to claw their way to the top.
Posted by: newvoter | August 21, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Brian Rogers managed to spout 7 falsehoods in three sentences. McCain is really rich, why doesn’t he splurge and hire a fact checker?
Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
“…”But if you’re like me and you’ve got one house,” he continued, …”
let’s see…he represents Illinois, so he must have a house there (one DOES need to be a resident, even a carpetbagger like the junior senator from NY). And he works (when he shows up) in Washington, so unless he does a daily commute back and forth to Chicago, he has a place in DC/MD/or VA.
That adds up to “2″ in my book…
Posted by: one plus one | August 21, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Hannity is SO leaning for McCain he disgusts me. His show is so unprofessional, that I stopped watching him.
Posted by: militarymom | August 21, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
If Obama knows how many homes McCain owns then its a good bet the “reporter” who asked the question did too. Will the Lightworker ever be subjected to similar “gotcha” questions?How about this one: “Senator Obama, what percentage salary increase did your wife get after you were elected to the Senate and promptly tried to get her employer a $1 million ear mark?” (A: 260%)
Posted by: Bill45 | August 21, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
John McCain’s views on former Georgia president Eduard Shevardnadze, a reform-minded architect of the Soviet Union’s glasnost policy in the 80s, have done a startling 180.
Speaking about Georgia, McCain told a town hall in Las Cruces, New Mexico on Wednesday: “They had a corrupt government headed by a guy named Shevardnadze, who you may remember from the days of the Cold War. And they had a peaceful revolution and they took over, and they were putting democracy and freedom and human rights, and they were prospering.”
In November 1999, the same John McCain described Shevardnadze as “one the great men in the history of the world” during a GOP debate at Arizona State University.
Why the change?
Posted by: bhrandon | August 21, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
One Plus One…Honey, they rent or lease when they are in Congress.
Posted by: cindyct | August 21, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
I find it odd that John McCain, the “Maverick,” can’t recall how many homes he has and then turns around and calls Senator Obama and elitist. That’s a fine line to walk. Especially when you’re worth over $100,000,000. Actually, that’s his wife’s money. John McCain does seem out of touch with the common man. He can’t operate a computer without the help of his wife and that’s very troublesome. We’re electing the President of the United States and it’s 2008. Anyway, John McCain and his new “Bush/Rove” campaign team started the dirty campaigning early, so they’re getting what’s coming to them. There’s so much more dirt that can be tossed their way. They should have thought about that when they deserted the boss’s “clean campaign” promise.
Posted by: Karen | August 21, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Obama needs to call for an immediate moratorium on forclosures. The situation has become beyond desperate, and the middle class needs relief now!
Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
“Senator Obama, what percentage salary increase did your wife get after you were elected to the Senate and promptly tried to get her employer a $1 million ear mark?” (A: 260%)”
That’s the type of change that we’ve all been waiting for.
Posted by: Mack | August 21, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
bhrandon…McCain will say anything to get elected. It is really funny to watch some tape from the 2000 nomination contest….
Posted by: militarymom | August 21, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
one plus one
ever hear of renting?
renting doesnt mean you own a house moron….
so there you go… idiot
Posted by: bhrandon | August 21, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Mack…what in hell does Michelle Obama’s salary have to do with anything?
Posted by: newvoter | August 21, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
trash, I’d point out that the audience was laughing AT McCain when he made the $5 million comment, but since it doesn’t fit into the MSM narrative, that comment wont appear.
Posted by: Flash Override | August 21, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Good speech, spoken in a measured manner rather than from the hip. Obama is quickly surpassing the arugula and going for the meat.
Posted by: kat | August 21, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
how can a man with 7 homes, private jets and over $100 million have any idea how much pain we are all in right now?
the fact that McCain says that the economy is doing great is because it is doing great for him. it’s the rest of us little people that are suffering terribly right now that he has no idea about.
hey McCain, we’re not a “nation of whiners” like you say we are, we are a nation that needs someone in charge who actually knows what they are doing for a change. we are not whiners because we have to choose between feeding our kids and gassing up to get to work.
Posted by: Dan | August 21, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
For all you McCain supporters ranting Obama is rich too, here is some perspective. According to your candidate…3 million makes him middle class.
Posted by: Just Think | August 21, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Obviously either McCain is too out of touch with normal Americans or he’s too senile to know how many houses he owns.
Either way he’d be a disaster as President.
Posted by: timpundit | August 21, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Cindyct….sorry Babe, but The One can’t get a free pass on that one. He’s counting McCain’s house in McLean VA, which is solely for his DC commute.
One Plus One…Honey, they rent or lease when they are in Congress.
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Posted by: one plus one | August 21, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Obama seems to glide right by the Rezko housing factor.
The key point to Barack and Michelle Obama’s house is that he got it as a favor from a man currently on trial, Tony Rezko.
When you get your land and housing from the likes of Rezko, the number of houses owned by the McCains is not a valid point of consideration.
Posted by: Jayhawk | August 21, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Jay…I bet over a million people in this country bought their homes from people and agencies who are on trail now…YEZzzz
Posted by: thoughtful | August 21, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
For all of the folks who keep remarking about Rezko, Obama made all of those documents, as well as the people he bought the house from, available to the Chicago Times. He answered all questions asked of him.
The reason that the number of McCain’s houses are an issue is because:
1. He didn’t know or didn’t want to answer – if he didn’t know, what does that say about him? He has too many properties to remember? Or that his memory is going? If he didn’t want to answer, what does that say? That he doesn’t want to appear rich or elitist – how many people have 7 homes? Not investment properties, but homes. I’d venture to say, not many.
2. If he has to ask his staff how many houses he has, how much in control is he, of his own campaign? He’s already on blackberry and press restriction because he can’t keep anything straight. Soon, he won’t even make appearances, he’ll just issue statements – which likely won’t even be from him, but from Rove’s Acolyte Steve Schmidt.
Posted by: alex | August 21, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
This is all so stupid. I like John McCain more becaause of this statement. Materials things probably don’t matter to him and that is why he doesn’t know.
At least McCain and his wife paid market value and didn’t buy it from Rezko.
Posted by: Frank- South Hampton | August 21, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
As was pointed out yesterday by the Christian Science Monitor, the McCain campaign was called out for lying about the purported urging of Cindy McCain by Mother Teresa herself to adopt two children at her orphanage back in 1991. Turns out, McCain never met or even spoke with Mother Teresa on that trip.
Once confronted by the Monitor about the deception, the campaign quickly erased such claims from the website, as it did with Cindy’s family recipes, which were proved to be lifted from the Food Network.
But after doing some research, this deception was no careless accident, but rather another shameless and deliberate attempt by the campaign to reinvent and embellish the McCain family history in time for his 2008 presidential bid.
lol, yea, mccain is all about straigh talk. How can anyone vote for this liar?
He will lie about anything to win the election, its not country first, its lie to win the election no matter what
Posted by: bhrandon | August 21, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
general…if you think killing 4000 young men and women is ” tails between the legs” then you’re crazy. This is a civil war, just like Vietnam. We went inot both wars for oil( or stability of), and now we need to get out safely and let Iraq solve their own problems.If my kid has to fight, I would rather he be in Afganistan looking for Bin Laden.
Posted by: militarymom | August 21, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
This is just another “Senior-Moment” that mccain had. Give the guy a break, he’ll be 72 next week. Give him a break, just don’t give him your vote, because this country can’t afford another 4 years of the bush policies which is exactly what mc-more-war will bring. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | August 21, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
@General trouncer:
Actually, the full quote from McCain was:
“If we’re talking about income, how about $5 million?”
So no, he wasn’t talking about savings or what’s in the bank.
Posted by: alex | August 21, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Obama played the RACE CARD
Posted by: Rats hounder | August 21, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
He didn’t answer because it was a stupid and inappropriate question.
Posted by: Emm | August 21, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Frank…yea right…material things don’t matter…that is why he “wined and dined” Cindy while he was still married…he knew she would come into money…Don’t be so nieve….
Posted by: newvoter | August 21, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
“If you think terrorist killing 3000 americans in a few hours is ok than maybe your sick and need mental help’
That was just our chickens comin home to roost, as stated by Obama’s friend and mentor, Pastor Wright.
Posted by: Mack | August 21, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Who cares I will vote for McCain even if he has 3000 homes. At least he worked for them and served our country in a war. What did Obama do to get his house. Oh i forgot. He did it illegally with REZKO
Posted by: General trouncer | August 21, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
This is just another “Senior-Moment” that mccain had. Give the guy a break, he’ll be 72 next week. Give him a break, just don’t give him your vote, because this country can’t afford another 4 years of the bush policies which is exactly what mc-more-war will bring. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | August 21, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Also, on the Rezko issue:
He didn’t buy his house from Rezko. Rezko didn’t own the house.
If you want the facts, read the full transcript of the interview with the Chicago Sun-Times editorial board:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/844597,transcript031508.article
Do your research.
Posted by: alex | August 21, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
One plus…does he own it or rent? Get real buddy…One down N..E…X…T…
Posted by: cindyct | August 21, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
obama and his ‘followers’ are sounding really desperate. remember desperate people do desperate things.
Posted by: sonia trevino | August 21, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
So much for hope, smoke and mirrors.
Perhaps McCain should whine like Obama:
“The choice is clear. Most of all we can choose between hope and fear. It is going to be very difficult for Democrats to run on Pelosi and Reid’s stewardship or their pacifist, blame American-first foreign policy. We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid. They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s old and experienced. He graduated at the bottom of his class from the Naval Academy. His wife is rich. He’s got a numeral in his name. And did I mention he owns seven houses?”
Posted by: Bill45 | August 21, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Obama opened up the door to this attack. I can see Republicans running ads now how Obama attained his house. Can’t leave it up to the MEDIA since they know but are so in love with Obama are not reporting it
Posted by: General trouncer | August 21, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
To Oneplusone: you say that one of his houses is solely for his commute, implying that it doesn’t count. Gee, I could use a house solely for my commute! Would eliminate my two-hour commute each day. But I didn’t leave my spouse to marry a $100-million-net worth beer heiress, like Moneybags McCain did, so this is an idle wish… that and the “private plane” that Cindy hooked him up with also.
McCain and others like him–those living in 7(for real?!) glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
McCain got his houses by leaving his first wife when she was disabled in a car accident, and hooking up with the decades-younger-than-first-wife, beer heiress Cindy (worth $100 million). Guess all that beer money will buy a lot of real estate. And any extra expenses were paid for by crony kickbacks. Maybe the solution for “everybody [to] get rich,” as McCain said was his goal, is to throw aside your first spouse and marry a multi-millionaire. Worked for him!
Posted by: Gaius Tullius | August 21, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
You know the other interesting thing about this debate? John McCain was born into a family that got him into the Naval Academy where he graduated 4th from the bottom. Then he tossed aside the wife and kids who had stood behind him for 5 years while he was a POW. Why? To marry an heiress worth more than 100 million. John McCain recently stated that to be considered rich you had to be making 5 million dollars…that certainly wouldn’t be my definition.
Yes, Barack Obama made a lot of money last year, but HE earned it. He got into Harvard on his own merits. And if you think it was affirmative action, think again, he never marked down that he was African-American on his application.
Posted by: JoyousMN | August 21, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
There is a difference between an elitist attitude (Obama) and personal wealth (the McCains). It is intellectually lazy to conflate the two.
Posted by: Mark | August 21, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
john mccain also lied about cindy meeting mother theresa.
Posted by: kravitz | August 21, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
“Plus he worked in the trenches of Chicago.”
He’d better get back to work, because his district is a mess.
Posted by: Mack | August 21, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
I take it McCain got all his houses legally. To bad Obama can’t say the same.
Posted by: Sarah | August 21, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
I do not begrudge the McCain’s owning 7 or more houses but to go along with calling Obama an elitist is hypocritical. Yes, John Kerry may own as many homes but the republicans decided to Swift Boat him, not call him out because of his wife’s wealth. Obama may also own an expensive home but he never called McCain out because of his expensive homes or called him an elitist. Maybe all the politicians should give extra money away and live like the rest of us: rent or own one place. If Obama’s brother lives on a $1 and Obama should support him; McCain should also give up his wealth and support the village that his adopted daughter’s family lived in. Fair is fair.
Posted by: old lady | August 21, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
mccain told the truth he didn’t know. imagine if he had gotten it wrong and said 6 houses the media and obama would be calling him a liar.
Posted by: sonia trevino | August 21, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Please quit with the stupid comments about the Obama’s one house. Obama has released ample documents about the purchase of the house and answered endless questions about the deal. The family bought the house after Obama landed his book deal and they had adequate salary to pay for it. They sold a two-bedroom condo before purchasing the home they now own. They bought the house fo $1.65 million–far more than most people pay for their houses, but it’s worth noting that in 2006 the McCains made a profit of $1 million on the sale of one of their properties.
The irony of this back and forth is, of course, that it was dangerous for the Republicans to claim that the candidate who was raised by his maternal grandparents and single mother and who attended school on scolarships and loans was a rich “elitist”–especially when their own candidate had 7-8 houses, wore $500 loafers, and had a family net worth estimated at $100 million. It was always a dangerous game to play, particularly when the economy is sputtering and many people’s wages are stagnant. The question is, just how much have the McCain’s benefitted finacially from the Bush tax policies? I’d guess quite a bit.
Posted by: mry | August 21, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
General trouncer–by “served his country,” do you mean graduated 894/899 in his military class; crashed multiple planes although he should not have been allowed to fly due to poor performance (your tax dollars at work!); got captured by the Vietnamese, and behaved honorably in prison but did not do anything concrete to advance the US cause? I prefer soldiers like my grandfather, who served in the Pacific in WWII, and actually got stuff done instead of languishing in some prison as a liability for the U.S., then using intimations of payback to lower our American stature in the world years later. This church-going, military-family Christian is no longer voting for McCain.
Posted by: Gaius Tullius | August 21, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
“mccain told the truth he didn’t know. imagine if he had gotten it wrong and said 6 houses the media and obama would be calling him a liar.”
He has a home in all 57 states.
Posted by: Mack | August 21, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
It’s funny reading all the McCain supporters comments for this post because they know they are oh so screwed now.
McCain really stepped in it and they know it. Enjoy it guys! It’s only going to get worse from here! Your candidate’s new name is now “I’m not sure”.
You’ve just heard the 2008 version of “I voted for it before I voted against it”.
Posted by: adam | August 21, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
@Jayhawk:
And is John Kerry President? No, because the Republicans were successful 4 years ago in destroying his character using the false Swiftboat attackas, as well as painting him as a rich elitist . . . for marrying a woman (his second wife) who inherited a company and a fortune.
Hmmm . . . where else have I seen that, it seems really familiar . . .
Posted by: alex | August 21, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
With few notes and no prepared speech, the former president (Clinton) outlined a comprehensive strategy to spur economic growth and create millions of new jobs while moving America away from fossil fuels and toward saving the planet.
It was a tour de force: so deep in the details that the propeller-heads were swooning, yet simple and compelling enough that I could follow it. … Paul Bagala
—-
Aside from lacking substance, how many uhr’s and ehn’s can you count if you give 0-bama 30 minutes without prepared speech and few notes?
I give it a rate of 10 per minutes, which makes 300.
Posted by: Olbermn3 | August 21, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Newvoter, did YOUR employer give you a 260% raise in 2005? Michelle Obama’s did.
2004 salary = $121,910
2005 salary = $316,962
Among Senator Obama’s earliest earmark request: $1 million for Michelle’s employer
Posted by: Bill45 | August 21, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
“General trouncer–by “served his country,” do you mean graduated 894/899 in his military class; crashed multiple planes although he should not have been allowed to fly due to poor performance (your tax dollars at work!); got captured by the Vietnamese, and behaved honorably in prison but did not do anything concrete to advance the US cause? I prefer soldiers like my grandfather, who served in the Pacific in WWII, and actually got stuff done instead of languishing in some prison as a liability for the U.S., then using intimations of payback to lower our American stature in the world years later. This church-going, military-family Christian is no longer voting for McCain.”
Weak.
Posted by: Mack | August 21, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
A woman McCain cheated on his first wife with is the real owner of most of those houses. And ‘legally owns’ assumes you consider the Mafia connections to cindy hensley mccain’s fortune. since they were involved in the beer distributor and death of Don Bolles, Arizona Republic reporter. And if you ignore how McCain gained wealth from the Keating Five mess…
Posted by: kravitz | August 21, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Sarah…do you know something we don’t? What was illegal about Obama’s mortgage?
Posted by: truthtell | August 21, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Blah, blah, blah. People who like Obama and what he stands for will vote for him. People who like McCain and what he stands for will vote for him. I will vote for Obama because the republicans, which McCain is one of, have brought death (our kids in Iraq) and destruction (the economy and health care) to this country. done. over and out.
Posted by: counting crows | August 21, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Sarah–McCain may have got his houses
“legally,” but he also got them “immorally.” I don’t want my kids growing up aiming to game the system by deserting faithful spouses who supported them during wartime and marrying rich, since, hey, that’s what McCain did. I want a better role model for my children.
As someone whose priority is “family values,” I am thoroughly disgusted by my fellow conservatives who put aside moral concerns just to get their taxes lowered. I pay my way because that’s the Christian way.
Posted by: Gaius Tullius | August 21, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
mccain told the truth he did not know. if he got it wrong the obama crowd would all over him for lying. smart man mccain.
Posted by: sonia trevino | August 21, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Thank you Mack…finally someone with some sense…McCain has been using his military service a lot lately when actually he was a disgrace to his family in Military school. He almost didn’t graduate but for his dad’s intervention. It is sad that this is all he is basing his right to the leader of the free world
Posted by: militarymom | August 21, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
At some point during one of the debates I expect to see McCain tighten his jaw and growl, “the truth? You can’t handle the truth!”
Posted by: Kathleen Hussein in Maine | August 21, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
@Mark:
Please explain to me what you mean by “elitist attitude.” What defines one as elitist? And please don’t simply say Obama is elitist.
The Republicans are trying to define him as elitist, but what does it mean to say that one is “elitist”?
Posted by: alex | August 21, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Oh don’t be so jealous. Obama is really losing it. He must think people are stupid. We know McCain is filthy rich. Mr. HighRoad better get a map because he is definately getting off course.
Posted by: Kitty | August 21, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Bill45….OMG this is a 40ish verses a 70ish…of course there is a differnence is dates..DAaaaa
Posted by: newvoter | August 21, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
BTW, 0-bama wants to build 1 million electric plug-ins, which (1) does not make a dent to the oil-dependency problem since there are more than 250 million vehicles on the road today, and (2) uses electricity generated by coals and natural gas. The latter is called fossil fuel, which pollute your clean air, and CO2.
0-bama has no clue about what it means to move away from fossil fuels, all he could come up with was to ask you to stop using oil, and inflate your tires.
Although not sufficient, McCain at least has a strategy to reduce the use of fossil fuel, and that is nuclear energy – the only clean and unlimited energy on this planet.
Posted by: Olbermn3 | August 21, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Both candidates have nothing to worry about financially. So what? I’m more concerned about which one is prepared to run the country – and the only choice is McCain.
Posted by: marylou | August 21, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
adam…Obama has no control over his dad and grandfather. He hardly ever saw either of them. He only has control over what he does.
Posted by: cathyp | August 21, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
McCain didn’t get his houses “legally”…he got them “immorally”…he dumped his first wife (who he felt was too ugly after a car accident) and cheated with a wealthy beer heiress…
Obama earned his way up the economic ladder…McCain took the sleazeball approach
Posted by: TheHarshTruth | August 21, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Do you see how Obama is clinging to every last snippet in desperation? Why is he dwelling on this “5 million” thing, when it was very clear to everyone watching the forum that it was a joke? What exactly is wrong with Obama’s brain, that he has to grasp at that? He joked about it too, saying that the definition of rich is selling 25 million books!!! I am sick of this smarmy political opportunist!
The deal with Rezko was clearly wrong, Obama admitted it. He bought property clearly under the appraised value, you tell me if you would be allowed to do that? We have only touched the surface of the Rezko case.
As for being out of touch, Michelle sat on the board of Univ of Chicago hosptials, made more than 6 figures, while this non-profit hospital made hundreds of millions, and thousands in her husbands district went without healthcare. This, while and important healthcare bill went through the Illionis senate, and Obama had the power to speak out about it, and did NOTHING.
Don’t throw stones, Mr. Obama, you live in the biggest glass house there is.
President McCain….maverick, hero, patriot
Posted by: decentAmerican | August 21, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
marylou…so you think are country will thrive with McCain? Think again…back to Bush politics…McCain thinks there is nothing wrong with the economy and we are all just a bunch of whinners.
Posted by: newvoter | August 21, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Obama is dropping like mad in the polls. People are waking up. Mr. Wonderful’s past is coming back to haunt him. The amazing thing is he thought he could keep it hidden. His abortion voting record, his big friendship with Bill Ayers…..it’s all coming back.
Hallelujah.
Posted by: Jo | August 21, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Another Obama smokescreen. I don’t CARE how many homes or rentals McCain owns.
This does NOT affect my life. What DOES affect my life (and yours) is TAXES!
My wife and I (both in our 70′s) have ONE home, which we may lose when Obama becomes President. This is NOT an exaggeration.
Posted by: Rhys | August 21, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
decentamerican…look again…Obama worked in Il and got health care for uninsured children. He sponsored the bill…get your facts straight
Posted by: newvoter | August 21, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
McCain has been an idiot his whole life…graduated 894 out 899 at the naval academy (where he only went because he is a spoiled legacy child)…then he had to cheat on his injured wife with a beer heiress to get his 7 homes…what a sleazeball…he never earned anything on his own.
Posted by: john | August 21, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
It’s fun to see Obama so desperate. These new polls must be really getting to him. And after all that Soros money spent! Ha! I love it.
Posted by: Jo | August 21, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Why didn’t the original maverick just answer the question? It still may have caused some waves, but nothing like this. The original maverick was too chicken to answer because he knew how it would sound, but he just drew more attention to it and made it worse.
Posted by: Suzanne | August 21, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
McCain: son of an admiral, second wife is millionaire, primary job his whole life is being a Senator, doesn’t know how many homes he has. McCain is more out of touch than Bush!
Posted by: Jan | August 21, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
I’m so dang tired of all this false innuendo about Obama’s purchase of his one home. No he did not purchase it beacause of Rezko. Rezko had little or nothing to do with the purchase. It still does not eliminate the fact that McCain has, according to Obama, 7 houses courtesy of his second wife’s wealth.
Posted by: moe99 | August 21, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
My grandmother was a big Obama supporter in the beginning and now she’s too embarrassed to admit that. She’s McCain all the way. I imagine it’s that way for millions.
Posted by: Beth | August 21, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Rhys…what makes you think you will loose your home when Obama gets in? McCain is saying there is nothing wrong with the economy, and we are whinners.
Posted by: cathyp | August 21, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
while we are counting, how many houses does john kerry, kennedy, and all the other insider, fat-cat, elitists, obama supporters have?
Posted by: sonia trevino | August 21, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Let McCain be McCain!
John McCain should give a television audience a complete tour of his magnificent mega-million dollar homes and beach-front exteriors!
Then he should introduce us to servants, grounds keepers, cooks, etc. needed to keep up SEVEN HOMES, some the size of the high school you went to.
Then he should talk about his OPPOSITION to the new GI Bill (college tuition for Iraq and Afghanistan vets) and Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act.
He should also talk about his plan to allow health insurance companies to be REGULATED BY THE STATE OF THEIR OWN CHOOSING.
Finally, he should talk about how he has made special legislative favors the ultr-rich (his peers) in exchange for campaign contributions.
Posted by: John's conscience | August 21, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Keep the honest, Jake. McCain is fake.
Posted by: Seth | August 21, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
JO…check the polls again honey…2 out of 6 are for McCain and only by 1%…this is the news media just getting everyone going…
Posted by: truthtell | August 21, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Yeah, denigrate a man who served his country in Vietnam, was held captive and tortured for 5 years.
Denigrate him in order to elect Obama, who was a not-so-successful community activist and friend of a terrorist Bill Ayers. Yeah, that’s a winning ticket.
Lol.
Posted by: Beth | August 21, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Assuming Obama wins in November, what’s he going to do when he can no longer blame Bush for everything that’s gone wrong in the last 50 years? And what’s he going to do for entertainment when it becomes pointless to keep bashing Old Man McCain?
Mr. Obama… how about telling us how YOU will treat us instead of how BADLY McCain would treat us?
We want to know what you WILL do, not what McCain WOULDN’T do! And how about the same answers to questions about taxes for at least a couple of consecutive days?!
Posted by: Rhys | August 21, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
McCain is the real elitist.
I think he’s about the only one in America besides GWB that is happy with this economy and all the job loss.
Posted by: Jim | August 21, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Posted by pt: “This is just another “Senior-Moment” that McCain had.” Democrats, please continue making personal attacks on John McCain’s age. It helps so much with the senior citizen vote. As an ex-Democrat and new Republican, I thank you.
Posted by: Carrie | August 21, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Beth…I hope your mom has a good retirement, because under McCain, you’re on your own…
Posted by: newvoter | August 21, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
To Tony, et al.–Respectfully, I must say, I would prefer that our future president have ties to a two-bit, small-potatoes player like Rezko than to major figures Saudi oil family players and the Georgians who want to rope our country into another fool’s errand when our military is already overworked.
For Rhys–I admire your regard for your financial welfare (I’m watching the economy too!), but McCain’s plan merely shunts off the bill-paying until another generation, so that our kids and grandkids will be the ones not only to lose a house, but not to afford it in the first place. Let’s not continue on the path to nightfall in America.
Posted by: Gaius Tullius | August 21, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Put it however you want. Obama should be way ahead in the polls.
Obama is even behind what Kerry was (in electoral college) at this time in 2004.
President McCain – get use to it.
Posted by: Jo | August 21, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
No wonder McCain tries to take care of his bloated Big Oil pals instead of working Americans –he’s an out-of-touch elitist just like them… Cripes, I don’t think even Donald Trump has more houses than he can count.
Posted by: Carl Campos | August 21, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
McCain is rich. And, he is clearly trying to defend failed economic policy. But he is NOT an elitist!
Obama is rich. And, Obama is an elitist.
“But if you’re like me and you’ve got one house,” he continued, “or you’re like the millions of people who are struggling right now to keep up with their mortgage so that they don’t lose their home, you might have a different perspective.”
I’m sure he thinks it’s completely logical to lump himself in with people who are struggling because he only has one mansion – not seven.
Posted by: Barb in MN | August 21, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
@General trouncer: classy.
@Jayhawk: I am specifically responding to the issue of Obama’s house, which is what people were discussing. Citing things like, “Obama bought his house from Rezko” – which is factually untrue.
As to their further relationship, I haven’t researched it, and would appreciate links to the articles that you cite.
Posted by: alex | August 21, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Carrie, you’re right. Those “senior moment” comments and jokes about McCain’s age is really pissing off the elderly in this country. My grandmother and her pals don’t like it one bit.
You remember the elderly don’t you? The #1 reliable voting block. So let’s hope they continue!
Posted by: Beth | August 21, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
fact cat…no I didn’t get a raise in 7 years, but then again I don’t have a double masters degree either.
Posted by: newvoter | August 21, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
I hear Obama is only 2 points ahead in the poll in California!!
No wonder Obama is grasping at anything!!
LOL.
Posted by: Jo | August 21, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Maybe it’s because his wife owns most of them.
Posted by: an observer | August 21, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
@Rhys: Why would a President Obama cause you to lose your home?
On taxes, Rhys, do you make more than $250,000? As far as income tax goes, if you make less than $200,000, then you will actually receive a tax cut based on Obama’s plan. In between, the tax is the same.
Posted by: alex | August 21, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
cathyp… Like many senior citizens, my wife and I live mostly on investments, which aren’t doing very well, in case you haven’t noticed the financial markets.
Bush’s tax cuts have enable us to maintain at least half the lifestyle we enjoyed ten years ago, as our income drops steadily.
Obama wants to double our taxes, depending on what day he is questioned about it.
Posted by: Rhys | August 21, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
@General trouncer:
That’s a nice claim. Where is your proof?
Posted by: alex | August 21, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Don’t you want someone who has more houses he can count, who made so much money than he even knew? Or do you really want someone who could not even barely pay off his debt to run the country to solve your debt problems?
0-bama only knows to sell lies in his books to get money from you poor less-educated admirers. Name another means that he had contributed anything to society, either in knowledge or in production, which could remotely help your debt.
If you did not buy his books, you would have been $100 less in debt.
Posted by: fact check | August 21, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Your comments regarding the “elderly” are interesting Beth because I am around many people McCain’s age and older who are very active and they have been the most outspoken that he is too old.
Posted by: Paige | August 21, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
It’s pretty amusing to watch all the McCain supporters trying to lash back here. Your guy’s the one who admitted to a reporter that he isn’t sure how many houses he owns. Unlike those celebrity commercials, the Obama campaign didn’t have to make up anything ridiculous about McCain. He did it to himself.
Posted by: Patrick | August 21, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
And can somebody please define for me, what makes Obama an elitist?
Aside from simply calling him an elitist, or saying he has an elitist attitude – what is that attitude? What is it about him, or his story that puts him in this category?
Posted by: alex | August 21, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
I don’t care how many houses or how much money McCain has. He is the one I trust.
Posted by: riley | August 21, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
I hear Obama is only 2 points ahead in the poll in California!!
No wonder Obama is grasping at anything!!
LOL.
Posted by: Jo | Aug 21, 2008 1:44:29 PM
*****
Jo – Obama is actually up by 18 point (and gaining) in California according to the Pollster average. I think you need to start listening to more reputable sources.
Posted by: What? | August 21, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
The point to this whole discussion, however, is this:
McCain tries to paint himself as someone who understands the American people. How many of the “American people” have 7 houses?
McCain says the economy is fine . . . except that, with his wealth, he is insulated from the majority of the impacts that the spiraling economy is having on the majority of Americans.
McCain was smeared unmercifully by Bush in 2000, with claims that he had an illegitimate child . . . and yet, 8 years later, he and Bush are dancing on the steps of the White House together.
Who is the one you can trust?
I trust Senator Obama over Senator McCain.
Posted by: alex | August 21, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Obama wants to take people’s hard-earned money and give it to people that didn’t work as hard.
And you can bet he will tax all of us just to support his enormous spending habits.
You can see by Obama’s earmarks in Chicago, and the way he runs his campaign–he can’t get enough money. And he loves to waste it.
Posted by: cindy in nc | August 21, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
I don’t care how many houses he and Cindy own (she probably has real estate from her family)….I only care that they end up living in the White House. I don’t think Obama wants us put his dirty Rezko deal under the microscope as to how he got his house.
Did we all ask John Kerry how many home he and billionaire wifey owned when he ran? It’s a non-issue, but Obama raising our taxes and not supporting drilling WILL effect our pocket books. Anyways, seems like Obama has all the elitist supporters who donate millions to his campaign….he flaunts his figures regularly….so shut up already, Mr. Rootless Cosmopolitian.
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Rhys: “Obama wants to double our taxes”
Boooohoooohooooo. Another sobstory who is making more than 250,000.00 a year and is still whining about how bad their investments have been doing under Bush’s economy.
You should have voted for Gore and Kerry, they would have continued Clinton’s policies which made you stinking rich in the first place
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
William…
If my wife and I are making 250,000 per year, I’d sure like to know where it is! We have NEVER made even HALF that much when we were both working! You know NOTHING about my life, so don’t LIE about me.
Posted by: Rhys | August 21, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Oh Debra: please put his housing ‘deal’ under the microscope for all to see.
There’s no ‘there’ there. You just want to fling his name around and around and around and around and around and around and around.
That’s all you can.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
How hilarious are the responses from McCain apologists pointing to Theresa Heinz Kerry? As if that’s relevant.
The point isn’t that McCain married into massive wealth (that’s a separate point). What’s damning here is that McCain’s entire campaign has been based on the idea that Obama is a “celebrity” and an “elitist”. He’s spent millions and saturated the airwaves with a multitude of ads pushing just that message.
And with one response he has underscored what was obvious to many of us all along: that his entire campaign is based on hypocrisy.
John McCain, so elitist and so out of touch he doesn’t even know how many houses he’s got!
John McCain, hypocrit!
This is a gift that will keep on giving for the entire campaign.
Posted by: lewp | August 21, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Hillary Clinton, advocate, wife, mother, leader.
She beat Obama “fair and square” yet, the DNC decided otherwise and usurped voters’ rights – contrary to their own party’s rules. Obama CHOSE to take his name off the MI ballot and was rewarded for it. Not only with the undeclared delegates but 4 of Hill’s to boot. THAT pissed people off and that is not just the PUMAS.
Obama is going to lose. Why? If the DNC and Obama aren’t willing to stand up for 2 states worth of voters, they are not willing to ever stand up for any of us here in this country. They, along with the media are willing to roll right over everything we know is right in this country.
Furthermore, nearly 18 million people (that’s right a little more than half) voted for Hillary. Not all of them were white, not all of them were women. Who they were are people who believe that Hillary Clinton is the right person for the job because of her incredible dedication, sheer tenacity and love of country.
I don’t know who I will be voting for this fall but it will not be Obama. He did nothing that didn’t at least indirectly benefit him while he was a state senator and all of his votes while a US senator were for “how it would look to voters”.
Posted by: Paradox | August 21, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
The economy may not be what is was 8 years ago — but the last 2 have been the worst.
Democrats promised “change” 2 years ago if we elected them Congress.
So Nutty Nancy Pelosi and Hapless Harry Reid (who states he can’t stand John McCain) have really made progress.
Harry Reid’s comment is enough reason to vote for McCain.
Posted by: susie | August 21, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
@Jayhawk:
But, just as the entirety of Obama’s life is open, so is McCain’s.
Posted by: alex | August 21, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
What will Obama do when he does’t have the Iraq war to list as his main running point? Condi is there and working on a deal….troops to start coming home next June, mostly out by 2011. The war is way down on the list of voters minds….it’s the economy. And when did raising taxes the way Dems do to move toward Socialism ever help this country?
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Wow, Obama’s just pumping out attack after attack since he got back from his posh vacation.
I guess he’s gotta do something to show the citizens what a new, different kind of candidate he is and raise his poll numbers.
Posted by: KB | August 21, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Rhys: then stop lying about Obama wanting to raise YOUR taxes.
When you’re making less than 250,000.00, you wil get tax CUTS from Obama. When making just the half of that, you will even receive a LARGER TAX CUT than McCain is giving you.
You claimed Obama would raise YOUR taxes. That could only mean ONE thing. You claimed making more than 250,000.00 a year.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Did the NeoCons REALLY think they weren’t gonna be hit back HARD between their beady little eyes. If McCain wants to play nasty, there is a world of info about him that hasn’t been aired.
Posted by: Katie | August 21, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
I love the references to McClown, McSame, McBush, ad nauseum. I prefer McPresident.
Posted by: Another McCain Democrat | August 21, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
All right, William… let’s cool off.
My wife and I have NEVER made over $125,000 a year, and that was ten years ago.
I think I know where you got the $250,000 figure: it’s what we owe on our house.
Our income has steadily declined since 2001, and we were facing disaster with a tax rate of 36% Federal and 11% state.
Remember, to a Socialist, any couple making more than $100,000 a year should be taxed the same as Bill Gates, Donald Trump, or Warren Buffet. When you take away half of THEIR money, they still have plenty left. When you take away half of ours, it doesn’t leave much, because our payments have NOT gone down with our income.
Posted by: Rhys | August 21, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
There are good reasons John doesn’t know how many houses he has. He married the money. His dad may have been Navy royalty and rich, but Cindy has the mega-bucks. She controls the purse strings. John McCain is a kept man.
Posted by: WhoSpeaksForCindy | August 21, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
When Obama says he “won’t raise taxes”, it’s a “lie by omission”, because all he has to do is allow the current tax cuts to expire in 2010. He doesn’t have to do ANYTHING! This way he can say he won’t raise taxes, because technically he won’t. They will raise themselves.
Posted by: Rhys | August 21, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
I, and millions of Hillary supporters, are more p.o’d the DNC is going to change the primary process and eliminate some super delegates and get rid of the caucus process. TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE….HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Seems Barrack struck a nerve with the McCain crowd on this one.
Why? Guess you don’t like hearing that self proclaimed “everyday-guy” Johnny Mac is the true definition of the elite?
POW does not equal “hero”.
Graduating in the bottom 1% of your class does not imply your “smart”
Changing your views to suck up to your party fundraisers does not make one a “maverick”
Continuing to support a failed international policy does not make one tough
And admitting you know little about economics doesn’t make me want you in charge of the American economy!
Posted by: SNAP! | August 21, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Obama is getting the inmate vote too…working the prisons to make sure he gets every vote. Heard it on the news a week or so ago.
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Rhys, you don’t know anything about Obama’s taxplan.
His taxplan incorporates the end of the Tax cuts for the RICH. The small amount you received under Bush will be offset by a larger tax cut for YOU with Obama.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Give old John a break, how many of us have been lucky enough to ditch our present spouse and marry a rich good looking chick like Cindy.
Posted by: LANNY EDWARDS | August 21, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Still waiting for President Cheney and his puppet to launch an air strike against Iran next month so the “war hero” John McCain can come and save us from the evil people. Vegas has odds on it. Do they know something we don’t?
We should be frightened by the methods of our own government. They are far more dangerous than Iranians.
Posted by: It's Cheney's War | August 21, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
McCain wants to continue to sell our economy off piece by piece. He wants to continue to borrow money from China to fund not only one by additional misguided wars. He wants to cut taxes on the rich and fleece the poor. Mcain is the worst of all possible choices if you aren’t already in the top 10% of the economy. If you are middle or lower class, have children old enough to be drafted, or care a whit about our ability to own our own country instead of selling out to foreign business (Bud (McCain’s x-co. sold to Belgium) then McCain is clearly not your choice.
Anyone but McCain ’08!
Posted by: Yard Sale! | August 21, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
willem — you don’t get it, do you? Obama’s economic plan will make it hard for EVERYONE. Even if he raises taxes only on the rich (and his plan may change from day to day depending on who’s vote he wants), this will simply translate into higher prices for goods and services for EVERYONE ELSE. Don’t think that the middle class gets to absolve all responsibility for our economy, it just gets translated into other ways.
McCain does not want to raise taxes for anyone. That’s fair, right? Why should those who work hard for their money be ashamed of their income? I don’t consider myself rich, but I have worked my behind off for every penny I have, so why should I pay more taxes then someone who hasn’t worked as hard? With Obama’s plan, everyone loses. Just like america will lose, in every possible way, if Obama enters the whitehouse.
Posted by: decentAmerican | August 21, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
What’s wrong to be rich?? being rich and being elitist is two differnt thing.
If I was McCain, I would say, YES I HAVE MANY HOUSES AND I WANT EVERY AMERICAN FAMILY TO HAVE MANY MANY MORE HOUSES.
Posted by: frieda | August 21, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Willem… I apologize for getting your name wrong.
In various interviews, Obama has said he will cut investment taxes (for individuals), and has also said they will revert to 36%, 28%, 20%, or remain at 15%, depending on what day he is asked about it.
When Hillary Clinton was defeated (in spite of our contributions!), my wife and I stopped buying EVERYTHING, which we probably should have done a long time ago. Now we DO nothing and BUY nothing.
Posted by: Rhys | August 21, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Obama just opened the door for McCain to attack his 1.6 million mansion and his Rezko tie. Obama is stupid to bring this thing up. Rezko is to be sentenced in early September. The shady real estate transaction involving Obama’s house is still not fully investigated.
What’s matter with how many houses McCain has? There are so many Americans have investment properties. McCain does not manage his properties, he has investment – other people or professionals can help him manage. I think he can just punch back saying: Right I don’t know my investment properties because I have devoted my effort and time to my senate work.
Posted by: amy | August 21, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Interesting – An Elitist has nothing to do with how many homes you own, it has to do with how you look upon people, if you are like Obama and look down upon us bitter Americans then that makes you an elitist, Pushing a fraudulent Global warming theory makes you an elitist. Meeting with the billionaires in private in San Francisco makes you an elitist!
Obama talks down to people is very ignorant too.
Pres. Bush’s tax cuts helped us create one of the strongest economy’s ever. You had the libs complaining all the time and it still held up, then came the Democrats and took control of the Congress, oil prices jumped so Pelosi and Obama could make money with T Boone Pickens, food prices jumped. We are not in a recession, we are in a slow down, which does happen it is a cycle.
Obama who stood by and worked to get his crooked slum lord friend tax payer money, his terrorist friend tax payer money should not speak!!
Obama is desperate to take a joke from McCain and try to twist it!
Posted by: spock | August 21, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Rhys: here is a conclusion from the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, which does careful, nonpartisan analysis of tax policy:
“The Obama plan would reduce taxes for low- and moderate-income families, but raise them significantly for high-bracket taxpayers. By 2012, middle-income taxpayers would see their after-tax income rise by about 5 percent, or nearly $2,200 annually. Those in the top 1 percent would face a $19,000, or 1.5 percent, reduction in after-tax income.
McCain would lift after-tax incomes an average of about 3 percent, or $1,400 annually, for middle-income taxpayers by 2012. But, in sharp contrast to Obama, he would cut taxes for those in the top 1% by more than $125,000, raising their after-tax income an average 9.5 percent.”
You can find the report on taxpolicycenter
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Boy, if anyone watched the two bios on CNN last night McCain blew Obama away again. Friends, VETS, politicans, family….he has such a history of service and a record of bi-partisanship. Obama just had his sister talk for the first 1/2 hour….very few people spoke on his behalf. Seriously, should be mandatory viewing for all voters. Alot of filler in Obama’s….they could have done another hour on McCain.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN1
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
FYI: There are no private beaches in Hawaii
Posted by: RustyC | August 21, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Obama, FINALLY following McCain and doing town halls. I wonder if he just hands the mike over to the audience like McCain does, or are questions handed out to the crowd, so he knows his answers before hand. EMPTY SUIT, not playing hardball politic as usual….there’s no CHANGE with him…HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
This is elitism – McCain says that Obama would rather lose the occupation than lose the election. He is implying that Obama is only in favor of bringing our troops home because it is popular. Ergo, McCain is saying that the American people are unpatriotic.
Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
I really think this wave of Obama negative ads and talks are disturbing — I once thought this guy is not ready for president but he is at least nice.
Now, his IL extreme abortion record was revealed — and he was lying about that all the time. And he started those ridculous personal attacks on McCain.
McCain’s attack ads were funny and really strike a cord — Obama is really a celebrity politician with no record. Most importantly, I don’t think he deserves Americans giving him the president job. He didn’t earn it!!!
When the attacks go on the personal level, it is Obama most vulnerable. Does he want people to remember Rezko, Ayers, Wright, Jones? the list can go on. The Obama camp has completely lost their cool.
McCain will win this November
Posted by: Amy | August 21, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
By the way if Pres. Bush’s tax cuts expire, an average family of 4 making 52,200 dollars a year will see a tax increase of 3200 dollars, so how does Obama’s plan help lower taxes,
Do you realize that with all the taxes the Libs like Obama, and Pelosi put on us we already pay 50% of our salary, take a gander, if you live in NJ -
50000
you pay 7500 taxes
ss 4500
State 4000
Property – 6000
Gas tax – 40cents a gallon of the gas approx 400$ (fill up 1 time a week – 15 gallon tank)
Tolls – Work in NY 2080
Without tolls you pay 18,400 a year
if Pres. Bush’s tax cuts expire you will pay 21,600
The above is an estimate, but it shows about 50% of your salary.
This is what Obama wants, and this does not include sales tax or tolls in the final number.
Why raise taxes at all, cut spending!!
Eco 101 – you raise taxes and the economy will tank!!
Posted by: spock | August 21, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
willem… I will NOT say you’re lying, because I’m sure the report is as truthful as possible, given the fact that Obama has not made his tax plans clear.
He seems to vary his proposed tax rates depending on his speaking venue (or who is attempting to interview him).
One mistake you and others make is assuming I LIKE Old Man McCain. I don’t.
It’s just that Obama scares me more.
And I am not alone. I have talked with many people who agree that this is an election in which we must decide who to vote AGAINST, because neither candidate is someone we should vote FOR.
Posted by: Rhys | August 21, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
amy: “The shady real estate transaction involving Obama’s house is still not fully investigated.”
it has been fully investigated by every rightwinger in the country. We’ve studied the houses on Google Earth, it has been photographed from every angle imaginable; we’ve seen every contract and every person involved. We’ve heard from the people who sold it, we’ve even got *their* work history, *their* telephone nrs; *their* campaign donations, *their* holiday destinations and whatnot.
And the only thing the rightwingers got is innuendo. There’s no there there.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
McCain is not only confused regarding how many homes he has he is confused about foreign affairs!
It is unfortunate that we have to get the truth from other countries rather than our Republican-owned main stream media — which is a derelict of duty to the American public. They failed us after 911 and they are still failing us now. Thank God we have the Internet and Blogs wherein we can find the truth.
Posted by: Angellight | August 21, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
That old white-head dude does not know how many houses he owns–and he thinks he is one of ordinary Americans? What a crap! This John MacCain man has no clue what the average American is going through. He was born with silver spoon in his mouth, whilst Obama’s mother was feeding him with food stamps. Seven fricking houses! and I can’t even pay for the one I have. Wake up America, this Rich old man will be worse than Bush
Posted by: Siam | August 21, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Rhys, Obama has been consistent in explaining his tax plan for ages. It’s McCain and his supporters who have been lying about his tax plan that has probably confused you.
Remember this. Every time somebody says that Obama wants to raise YOUR taxes, you know he or she’s lying and/or seriously confused or seriously misinformed.
Why should you trust that person anymore? Is that somebody you would vote for?
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Jack what’s the deal with so called Obama and Annenberg scandle??? Is there truth to that?
Posted by: frieda | August 21, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
I, for one, take McCain at his word that he doesn’t understand the economy – he reinforced that at Saddleback when he stated he wants “everyone to get rich.” Given that the amount of money out there is somewhat of a constant, how exactly can everyone get rich without any money being taken from those who presently hold the majority of the pie? What’s he gonna do? Print more money?? McSame is scary.
Posted by: Just Capri | August 21, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
willem asks me: “Is that somebody you would vote for?” (referring to McCain)
NO! I do NOT like McCain!
But I like Obama even LESS!
I realize America WILL become a Socialist country; my wife and I would just like everyone to wait another decade until we’re dead.
Once we’re cremated, we won’t “miss” any of the freedoms which are slipping away every year.
Posted by: Rhys | August 21, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Obama is looking weaker than ever. I hope Hillary steals the nomination away from him or disrupts the democratic convention. This is not where he wanted to be going into the convention. What a punk.
Posted by: Gary | August 21, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
I think the seams are begining to show on John McCain. I think that so far, even after a week the attacks from Obama are begining to have some effect. I think McCain is gifting the Democratic Party unity at the moment. I mean, bad enough that you have 7 homes, terrible that you don’t know on the stuimp how many you have, and worse that your campaign then tried to cover it over with a wimpy answer like ‘at least 4′. I think that ordinary Americans can sympathise with ‘worrying about the price of aragula’ ahead of owning 7 houses. So yet again the McCain’s campaign has given an awful, over selling response. Fair enough bring up the Rezko thing, quite another throwing anything at Obama to cover over your embarrasment.
Posted by: markymark | August 21, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Obama’s positive campaign is now: “he’s rich! He’s out of touch!” Only rich democrats are in touch, don’t republicans know that? :)
Posted by: Wade | August 21, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Willem van Oranje :
I am not fully convinced that the Rezko-Obama is over. Obama never fully disclosed the documents involving the transaction. every time he went on an interview, he squeezed out new stuff. Remember he said he and Rezko in fact toured the estate but before that he insisted Rezko’s involvement was minimal? He was not pressed to answer tough questions. There are still many questions unanswered.
McCain may well link Rezko’s defunct public housing projects with Obama’s own personal gains. Remember, 11 of Rezko’s bad projects are in Obama’s IL district. Obama said he was unaware of the plight of those people living in those buildings, yet, he had time to ask Rezko to consult on his own house.
The Rezko issue cuts on several fronts:
1. Obama’s judgment (Rezko was under investigation when Obama approached him for this deal)
2. Obama’s competency (how could he not know the situation of those poor people he was supposedly represent?)
3. Obama’s work ethics (he claims all his senate records are lost)
4. Obama’s character.
The list can go on. I bet when an ads coming out with images of Rezko, Obama’s house, Rezko’s dilapidated buildings, those poor people, it will be a lot more shocking than McCain’s 7 houses.
Posted by: amy | August 21, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
McCain’s stats:
Houses: 7
Age: 71
Wives cheated on: 1
Lobbyists working for campaign: Too many
Posted by: Reason | August 21, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
John McCain, hopelessly out of touch:
“I define rich in other ways besides income. Some people are wealthy and rich in their lives and their children and their ability to educate them. Others are poor if they’re billionaires.”
Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Kerry’s property never came into question….McCain’s shouldn’t be an issue either. Wealthy wives and their real estate holdings are irrelevant.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Obama earned his money and his lot in life. McCain was born and married into his.
Posted by: Reagan | August 21, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
I have no problems with McCain being rich, but McCain’s comments tell me that he doesn’t understand what regular folks like me are going through.
Another topic: PUMAs of course can vote for whomever they want. I just hope they take a close look and compare Obama, Clinton, and McCain’s policies. I don’t understand how a Clinton supporter can support McCain’s policies. A presidential election is too important to vote because of pique.
Posted by: EL | August 21, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Frieda, yeah everybody getting rich sounds great. Everybody owning seven homes and 3 condominiums sounds great. How on earth do you square those statements with the policies he’s putting forth?
Posted by: TBone | August 21, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Urgent! Obama has to change VP pick…too many houses! Sorry, Kerry.
Posted by: Dee | August 21, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
6, 7, 8. Counting the one Rev Wright, Father Pflegor are hiding out in! Who cares? How many people from John McCain’s past are in hiding?
Posted by: kid | August 21, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Don’t know why McCain thinks he’s making an effective counter-argument by pointing out Obama made $4 million last year. According to McCain himself $5 million is the “rich” low-water mark. That would make Obama middle class.
Posted by: Steve | August 21, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
How many of John McCain’s homes can fit into Barack Obama’s mansion?
Posted by: MadMech | August 21, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
After dancing with Tony Rezco, Obama is the last person that should be bringing up the issue of people’s houses.
Posted by: P-Man | August 21, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
I am not fully convinced that the Rezko-Obama is over. Obama never fully disclosed the documents involving the transaction. every time he went on an interview, he squeezed out new stuff. Remember he said he and Rezko in fact toured the estate but before that he insisted Rezko’s involvement was minimal? He was not pressed to answer tough questions. There are still many questions unanswered.
McCain may well link Rezko’s defunct public housing projects with Obama’s own personal gains. Remember, 11 of Rezko’s bad projects are in Obama’s IL district. Obama said he was unaware of the plight of those people living in those buildings, yet, he had time to ask Rezko to consult on his own house.
The Rezko issue cuts on several fronts:
1. Obama’s judgment (Rezko was under investigation when Obama approached him for this deal)
2. Obama’s competency (how could he not know the situation of those poor people he was supposedly represent?)
3. Obama’s work ethics (he claims all his senate records are lost)
4. Obama’s character.
The list can go on. I bet when an ads coming out with images of Rezko, Obama’s house, Rezko’s dilapidated buildings, those poor people, it will be a lot more shocking than McCain’s 7 houses.
Posted by: amy | August 21, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
What great selling point will Obama have now that Condi is in Iraq and discussion is troops start coming home next June and mostly out by 2011? The War is not #1 on American’s minds and yet that was his great lead into this race with Hillay. “I was against” blah, blah, blah (when he couldn’t even vote..wasn’t in Senate).
I just hope McCain will have one more house to add to the list come November……THE WHITE HOUSE, JOHN SYDNEY McCAIN, our 44th President.
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Who cares how many houses McCain has? What matters is how his economic policies will affect the economy vs. Obama’s. Obama will increase spending and taxes, increase the size of government and invite international aggression with his utterly flaccid foreign policy. McCain will reign in excess Federal spending, keep taxes in check and discourage aggression abroad. Envy is a very poor source for economic policy.
Posted by: Christopher Brooks | August 21, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
McCain may have more money but Obama is the one that acts like a snob.
Posted by: cindy in nc | August 21, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Boring at best. Let’s get back to real issues.
Posted by: DCortez | August 21, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
There are four things that all of us want to be; Rich, Beautiful, Healthy and Young Again when we are older.
Getting rich usually takes a lot of smart, hard work by you or someone in your family. The rich own the companies that create and provide us jobs…not the government which, by the way is YOU.
Beauty is a ‘luck of the draw’ called genes…or a very good plastic surgeon.
Health is also part genetic…but you can easily ruin that with ‘bad habits’… which is what many choose to do…and then complain about their bad luck.
And the fourth…we just dream about the ‘good ol’ days’.
You live in America…if you do not believe it is the best place on earth to be then visit any of the places where 4.6 billion others call home…and then come back here and enjoy your life.
The unfortunate fact is…We have become a nation of whiners.
You don’t want the house your parents had…it has to be three times bigger.
You don’t want one car per family…you want one car per person.
You don’t want to listen to the radio…you want a personal TV, iPod, and cell phone.
And someone else to pay for all of it.
I’m really sorry if you have it tough, but so do a lot of the rest of us.
Strive daily to improve yourself. d:)
Posted by: tspiv | August 21, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Great post by Christopher Brooks….the Rootless Cosmopolitian IS OUT OF THE QUESTION FOR THIS COUNTRY.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
“I guess if you’re only making $3 million a year then you’re middle class,” Obama said. “I guess that’s what he meant.”
Of course, to the Democrats, when they say “Tax the rich!” they define “rich” as someone who makes over $85,000 a year.
Posted by: Greg A | August 21, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
You know, I wonder if anyone living in an apartment is completely in touch with the “American People?”
I still appreciate the sentiment of “I want every American to be rich.”
Class warfare is foolish and defeatist. We are the economy. Are we slackers (BHO) or are we hard chargers ready to give fiscal victory a go (JSM)?
Posted by: Texas Tom | August 21, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
I think the signifacance isn’t that he owns 7 houses, but the fact he can’t recall them. on another interview he had difficulty recalling his obtaining a marriage licese befor having a divorce.
The thing that distresses me all, the Repblicans who support him and will be whining about all the domestic programs which will be axed to send money abroad. Many have children of special needs who will need these services. They had better think twicw as they may have to give up booze or boat to provide what the need.
Posted by: aw | August 21, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
isn’t it funny how a man who makes millions per year trys to act like he is one of the less fortunate? Barrack says he can’t afford to send his kids to piano lessons and has only one house. He makes millions per year. Do we need a president that makes millions and cant balance his household income enough for something so simple. Maybe the economy is also above his pay grade too.
Posted by: Matt KEY, Palm city,FL | August 21, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
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So, maybe Obam should have deferredd to his staff at Saddleback on the “beggining of life” and abortion issues.
Even with the staff’s “pay grade”, I am betting that most or all would have done far better (hard to have done worse).
No doubt McCain and wife’s (many) homes bought w/o use of questionable source of funds……….
Posted by: BillyC | August 21, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
May be one of John McCain’s houses has a private beach. For his lack of knowledge of the islands of Hawaii, there is NO PRIVATE BEACH in Hawaii. All beaches are public.
Posted by: sandy | August 21, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Obama’s desperation is showing.
Does he really want to discuss real-estate? Considering his sweetheart deal with a convicted felon.
Does he really want to question McCain’s associates? That has prompted more investigation into Ayers.
He’s crashing in the polls and starting to panic.
Posted by: riley | August 21, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
We are a country of whiners who have it so much better than our parents and grandparents had it……we’re living longer, quality of living has improved all around and all we hear from Dems/Nobama is how horrible things are and the glass is always half empty.
Anybody blogging here on their laptops just cannot complain when there are countries where people live on $1.25 a day.
Russia/Georgia conflict another great reminder as to why I want McCain at the helm.
McCAIN ’08/HILLARY ’12
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
The Rezco connection is now in play. Great plan there, 0bama. Now. Let’s talk about Indonesia.
Posted by: beebop | August 21, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
This ad proves that Mc Cain is too good that Obama did find any issue against Mc Cain, so, he started silly cat fight with Mc Cain.
Posted by: IN | August 21, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Obama placed his education debts on his credit cards.
What an economic genius!
Posted by: doug | August 21, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
for those who keep dwelling on this 5 million dollar comment, you sound as silly as Obama…it was a joke! He said it was a joke the moment he said it….do you understand that? why is that so hard to understand? Are you going dwell on every little think in desperation?
as for earning one’s lot in life…..oh yes McCain risked his life for this country, for the sake of our freedom, so people like you can say things like he didn’t work for anything he got, when he fact, he has worked for the freedom and service of america his entire life. What has Obama accomplished to get where he is? NOTHING. People in Chicago know that he was a poor senator. He has written books, he has given speeches.
He doesn’t deserve all the attention he is getting, and certainly doesn’t deserve the white house.
I ask again, with all the good potential candidates out there, why oh why, what did America do to deserve a candidate as horrible and ridiculous as Barack H. Obama? Other nations are just laughing at us.
what an embarassment to our American history.
Posted by: decentAmerican | August 21, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Speaking of glass houses, I’m not sure Obama is really the best person to start inquiring about other people’s homes. It seems like he’s opening up the Rezko issue again.
Not to mention that when he was repeatedly asked about Rezko, he’d claim those types of questions were “distractions.”
Posted by: jose | August 21, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Good thing his (second) wife is filthy rich…
Posted by: Works4aLiving | August 21, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Typical hypocrisy from the McCain camp! Having 7 houses and charging $750K on the credit cards each MONTH is just every day living to them.
It always cracks me up how the Republicans can fool some of the people all of the time!
Preach support for American middle class, then line their own pockets with pork-barrel projects and bribes. Preach family values, then cheat on their wives (yes… McCain cheated on his 1st wife!).
Time for the real-deal in the White House. I look forward to voting for Barack Obama in November!
Posted by: Dave in GA | August 21, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
I support Obama because he does not want me to be burdened with a baby.
Keep your hands of my body Republicans!
Posted by: Tina | August 21, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
I think some of you McCain supporters are missing the point. The problem isn’t that he owns 7 homes. The problem is that either he doesn’t know that he owns and needs to pays taxes on 7 homes, or that he’s too cowardly to tell the audience concerned about the economy that he owns 7 homes.
It’s fine that he owns 7. Good for him. But either be honest about the fact that you’re in the top 1% or get some medication for that memory loss.
Posted by: Martin | August 21, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
This story is a plant by the Obama campaign…not even newsworthy…does this tell you something? They are panicking.
Posted by: Gigantus | August 21, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
I will never understand why Obama feels he has to constantly praise McSame before attacking him. Why the need to call him a war hero constantly? Does anyone NOT know McCain was a prisoner of war? McSame practically has it tatooed on his forehead he mentions it so often. ENOUGH!!
Posted by: DW | August 21, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
I think it shows he doesn’t care much about money or possessions. A greedy guy knows every penny.
Posted by: Morgo | August 21, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Whose business is it how much many anyone makes? Obama and the Democrats seem to think they have a right to take what they deem as excess income from anyone.
McCain was right..when he said, he’d like EVERY American to have the opportunity to be rich. Democrats don’t want that. Obama doesn’t want that. They believe that people can earn too much money without knowing how much work, talent or innovation might have gone into earning big salaries.
I hate the Democrats and everything they stand for.
Posted by: Gerry | August 21, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
OK. I am not trying to be alarmist, but doesn’t McCain talk like an NEO-CON in Chief right there with Cheney all the way? Doesn’t this disqualify him from running for President? He’s cooking up plots to destroy the UN in order to MAKE MORE WARS? Plus, he slipped and said he was reinstating the DRAFT today? McCain wants WORLD WAR III – can’t you see that?
Posted by: beck | August 21, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Dave: McCain votes against pork barrel projects. It’s his trademark. Even his enemies conced that. Obama is a pork king with millions in earmarks.
Posted by: Van Smacker | August 21, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Martin…Cindy probably owns some of them and instead of giving the wrong answer and everyone jumping on that this was the answer. I bet there are a couple where McCain’s name isn’t on the deed and WHO CARES?
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
This type of economic class envy only resonates with resentful liberals, and Obama already has that vote sewn up, so I don’t see how this helps him.
Posted by: foutsc | August 21, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Obama is stupid. This is proof of how little McCain cares about money. Backfire.
Posted by: Van Smacker | August 21, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Do you think President McCain can remember how many missles (with nuclear warheads) we might have? How many countries we are at war with? The size of the US debt? Do you really want someone who doesn’t know how many houses they own to have their finger on the ultimate button?????
Posted by: Ohio | August 21, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
by the way idiots, McCain never claimed to be poor that is your golden child
Posted by: Matt KEY, Palm city,FL | August 21, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
wow!
Once again, Obama team goes for the bait…are they a bunch of college kids running this campaign? This was a classic set up to put Rezko in play…obamians…u guys better get your act together!
Posted by: Deep Con | August 21, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
I’m sure all you folks so obsessed with the Rezko thing are equally upset with McCain’s role as one of the Keating 5. Or his changing his position on offshore drilling right after getting a bunch of oil money. Or his foreign policy adviser being a lobbyist for Georgia. Or Phil Gramm’s deep involvement with the sub-prime debacle. Or any of the other lobbyists on his staff with conflicts of interest. Or his involvement in a sweetheart land deal in California for one of his campaign contributors.
Oh, wait, McCain was a POW. He’s not accountable for anything.
Posted by: Whammer | August 21, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
amy:
There are several blatant lies in your list. Most startingly: Rezko was NOT being investigated when Obama brought the availability of the sale to the attention of Rezko.
They bought the property in 2005; that Rezko was being investigated was first reported in 2006.
And that nonsense about his ‘senate records’ (he didn’t claim they were ‘lost’, he didn’t know were they were. there’s a diffence). The papers that were asked about were his (personal) staff records in the Illinous Senate. You know: letters from and to constituents, internal memo’s, etc. etc. etc. You know the type, the type Bush claims “executive privilige” for in even the most absurd cases.
But PLEAAAAASE, PLEAAAASE, PRETTY PRETTY PLEASE. Demand that Obama releases the papers from his Senatorial Staff. That way we will get every record from McCain’s Senatorial Staff as well. That would be such a treasure trove: all his dealing with lobbyists, all the people who asked him for favors, from all those years. That would be truly great. I would be so grateful to you when you managed both of them to release every scrap of paper from their offices.
Will you do that for me?
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Take heart, Obama Lemmings. Your man just got a .3% bounce in the
polls! LMAO.
Posted by: SayNo2BHO | August 21, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
It’s fine that he owns 7. Good for him. But either be honest about the fact that you’re in the top 1% or get some medication for that memory loss.
If you own 7 homes – that’s counting things like his estate, which actually has 6 (yes, 6!) single family homes on it, as 1 home…
You’re not just in the top 1%… You’re in the top some fraction of 1%.
26 years in Washington. More money than most Americans will see in a lifetime with no concerns about Social Security, health insurance, paying for his kids education, retirement — to say nothing of mortgage payments, doubling his outlay for gas, or anything of the sort. The McCain’s carry more in credit card balances than all but a few hundred thousand Americans owe on their mortgage.
Hey – more power to him… He married into one heck of a lot of money… good for him… I’d like to do the same.
But let’s not pretend he has any clue what the vast, overwhelming majority of Americans face in this economy. They’re not worried about their trust funds or the dividends on 10s of millions in whatever investment… they’re worried about what bills can slide since the next paycheck can’t cover them all.
A lifetime in Washington + heiress wife = OUT OF TOUCH.
Posted by: zonk | August 21, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Ohio: Maybe he cares more about America than himself, unlike his opponent who makes up his own Playskool Presidential Seal.
Posted by: Van Smacker | August 21, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Obama’s fear is showing…getting tough now, from a guy who was going to be a different kind of politics…Mr. Layed Back seeing his numbers shrink…he better pray he makes the right VP choice because he’s never quite got that “bump” in the polls, after Hillary dropped out, after his world tour. Kerry was up 14 points at this time in the election…..Obama be very worried…25% of Hillary supporters still not on board and 11% not sure.
THIS HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Based on some of the vitriolic comments about Obama in here, I would say that he really struck a nerve! Ha! Love it! Doesn’t it suck when McCain makes a boo-boo and gets caught!? Waaaaaa! lol!
Posted by: musicka | August 21, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Evidently the Obama campaign is going all out over this issue.
As a Clinton-supporter, sitting on the fence, the more Obama attacks McCain, the more I like McCain.
So go ahead, Democrats, keep making fun of McCain — and see how quickly he gets elected…
PS McCain may be rich but he’s not a snob like Obama.
Posted by: Vnd | August 21, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
So I guess now that Kennedy and FDR were just born rich anuses and poor Ronald Reagan was awesome?
It must be fun to be a progressive and have to redefine your values every minute.
Posted by: Van Smacker | August 21, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Hillary Supporter for McCain. Sorry, Mr. Obama has no substance and cares for nobody but himself.
Posted by: jjj | August 21, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
“This type of economic class envy only resonates with resentful liberals, and Obama already has that vote sewn up, so I don’t see how this helps him.”
That’s right. Conservatives don’t believe in class warfare. Oh, except:
1) Economic class warfare against the poor
and
2) Social class warfare against liberals
Those kinds of class warfare are acceptable to the Republican party. Indeed, that’s what it’s built on.
Posted by: MaximusNYC | August 21, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Doesn’t help you feel any better knowing McCain is up 5 points in the latest national polls from Zogby (and what, and 9 points on who can handle the economy better – a bread/butter issue for Dems) – compare to the last presidential election where Kerry was ahead at this time, doesn’t bode well for the Obama cultists.
I am going to enjoy grinding McCain’s victory into the Obama supporters come November.
Posted by: mhuitt | August 21, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
McCain bought his condos with his own money in a legitimate transaction. Who cares how many he owns. Since when is being successful a crime? Most of us would love to be rich. The democrats are just the party of laziness and envy. They want a guarantee of the same results that others have to work hard to attain.
Obamanation bought his mansion with his pay as a “community organizer” in a corrupt deal with a corrupt developer. Think about that.
Posted by: liberterarian leanings | August 21, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
haha…talking about struck nerves, do you see how the Obama supporters all go scurring every time the word “rezko” comes up? It’s hilarioius.
the mcCains are wealthy, no doubt about that. And no reason to be ashamed. They have dedicated themselves to lives of service. And get this, McCain’s children, can live theri lives in lazy abject luxury. So what does his son do? Joins the military. Doesn’t have to, doesnt’ need to work at all, doesnt’ need to risk his life, for the sake of the safety of Americans who criticize his father. But he did.
Why???? Service.
Shame on all of you. What have you done for the service of your country? What has Obama done? NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING.
Posted by: decentAmerican | August 21, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Maximus:
1. Liberals are not a class
2. Bush lowered taxes on the poor
Any more brilliance you care to spew?
Posted by: Van Smacker | August 21, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
McCain said he didn’t know how many houses has. Obama said he didn’t know Rezko was under investigation when he approached him for a shady house deal. which one is worse?
I once talked to a car insurance agent, he told me he had may be about 12 or 13 houses, most of them investment properties. He said, I don’t know how many , may be 12 or 13. — What is wrong with that?
Obama’s case? not so easy to explain. So, as a politician who had Rezko’s 11 defunt projects in his own district, went to ask a shady person to help him buy a mansion. How many of these kind of people are out there, and how many of them want to be president?
Didn’t Obama said: this is not the Rezko that I knew? It seems that there is something the Obama doesn’t know.
Posted by: amy | August 21, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
WcCain’s response?
A noun, a verb, and POW.
Which is apparently all he’s got to run on these days….
Posted by: dan | August 21, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
McCain doesn’t own 7 homes, McCain’s wife and various businesses she controls own 7 homes. Sure, he has use of the homes, but he may have never been in all of them, he would not have needed to have shopped for them, gone to the closing for them, or anything like that. Ask yourself if you know all the details of your spouse’s work life.
And who cares how many homes he had anyways, if marrying a rich woman is a problem with liberals why did you nominate John Kerry in 2004? His wife is more than twice as rich as McCain’s wife. Cindy McCain owns a regional beer distributor, Theresa Kerry owns ketchup!
In anycase, this was really dumb by Obama, the Rezko trial is starting soon, and if he wants to make houses an issue McCain will be sure to mention Obama’s potential fraud and corruption in his dealings with Tony Rezko which allowed him to buy his own house at below market value.
Posted by: Chris | August 21, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
This is what passes for a ‘gaffe’ to Obama and his media suck ups? I’m shocked, shocked I say, to find out that McCain, whose wife is a multi-zillionare, owns a bunch of houses. Newsflash: Republicans are already assumed by the general public to be wealthy. This sort of tactic doesn’t work against them, it only works agaisnt Democrats who always present themselves as blue collar. Does Obama really want to get into a class warfare argument with McCain about how many houses he owns? Let’s bring Tony Rezko into the discussion, that’s a good idea…
Posted by: Rick | August 21, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
I have to echo the comments of others here, not knowing how many houses you own shows you really don’t care much about money or possessions.
I bet Michael Moore knows every penny.
Posted by: Choogle | August 21, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
John McCain: “I don’t know how many houses I have”…Oooops.
>
> John, the Vietnam war is over.
John McCain, “War more years of Bush”
And as for McCain’s surge: I didn’t support it then and would not support it now because to succeed it involved paying off the terrorists who have been blowing up our soldiers for five years.
Oh, and by the way, tell me any candidate who’s ever won an
election after not polling above 45% for four months head-to-head against his opponent in a two-way race?
Only two times in the last 12 elections has the person who led 100 days out not won the election.
Coming Democratic argument: Iraqis pay 5 cents a gallon for
gas. Why can’t we get them to produce more oil and sell to us?
Posted by: Danny | August 21, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Which is worse? McCain not knowing how many houses, or Obama not knowing how many States there are (58? 59? 60?) Speaking of glass houses. And he wants to be the President of the 60 States?
Posted by: bryan | August 21, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
They have 40 people to whip Hillary protesters into submission at the convention…great adverb to use. They want to block anti-Obama protests. I hope there’s revolt….alot of us will not forget the bias during the primary and Pelosi and Dean, the whole coronation of BO…super dels having to be forced to push him over the finish line. When Obama loses in Nov., analysis will prove it was Hill supporters who jumped to McCain….hell hath no fury than a woman (and alot of men I know) scorned!
McCAIN ’08/HILLARY ’12
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
It’s cute that Kerry and his wife were portrayed as fabulously wealthy, out-of-touch elitists… and that Obama has been portrayed as one too, to some extent… and then when McCain comes under the microscope and is revealed to be worse than Obama and almost as bad as Kerry, they conveniently forget all of that.
Posted by: elchip | August 21, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
I read through blogs on occassion and it sickens me the realize millions of Americans will vote for John McCain and essentially more of the same. Too scared to take the chance that maybe, just maybe we have the one who “could” change this world. Isn’t that worth a vote. No sadly, too much ignorance racism and sexism. Those who voted for Bush 2 don’t think about the nearly 5,000 dead. The next 5,000+ will be directly on the heads of the McCain08′/Hilary 12′ crowd of short sighted thinkers. The republicans are always happy with the status quo. No matter their income level. I’ll be broke, out of a job, evicted, unable to drive my car to the VA office for horrible health care treatment before I vote for HIM!
Posted by: Scott | August 21, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Let’s give McCain a makeup test since he flubbed that one!
Ask him how many airplanes he has and see if he has to consult his staff!
Posted by: mjd | August 21, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Obama’s negative attacks are going to backfire soon. Watch his poll numbers go to new low. He will get no bump after the convention unless he chooses Hillary. He will loose a landslide unless he relies on Hillary.
Posted by: amy | August 21, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
How many lobbyist does it take to keep track of your houses?
Posted by: Thinking | August 21, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
“Which is worse? McCain not knowing how many houses, or Obama not knowing how many States there are (58? 59? 60?) Speaking of glass houses. And he wants to be the President of the 60 States?”
It was a gaffe. He flubbed “50 states” with “47 states” that he’d been to. Came out to 47. People have gaffes, y’know. I seem to recall Bush saying that he would stop at nothing to cause harm to the American people, and everyone understood it as a gaffe and laughed it off.
Posted by: elchip | August 21, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
I guess America really is mean in 2008 when you criticize someone for owning houses while your brother is living in a shanty. Obama won’t pay his brother’s way. But we have to pay for healthcare for people who escape similar shanties in Sonora. Still, I am worried about the piano lessons and arugula.
Posted by: Choogle | August 21, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Sorry people, but I just can’t reconcile the fact that McCain has been given everything (married into money and got into the Naval Acadamy on a legacy), yet calls Obama an elitist.
In the proud conservative traditions of self-reliance, at least Obama is a self-made man, and that counts for something.
Posted by: GOPer for Obama | August 21, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
” have to echo the comments of others here, not knowing how many houses you own shows you really don’t care much about money or possessions.”
Especially mine!
Posted by: Thinking | August 21, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
“1. Liberals are not a class
2. Bush lowered taxes on the poor”
Tell it to Rush Limbaugh. When you build your entire philosophy upon resentment against a supposed “liberal elite,” you are engaging in social class warfare, period.
And the other great resentment fanned by the GOP and its propagandists is against the supposedly “parasitic” poor.
Class warfare on 2 fronts. It’s worked pretty well for them, I must admit. But increasingly, people are seeing thru it.
Posted by: MaximusNYC | August 21, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Just think: If McCain were “The One,” he could inhabit all of his houses at once.
Posted by: Bum Chicken | August 21, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Senile? Funny, it was Obama who was symphony of ums and ahs at Saddleback.
Posted by: Choogle | August 21, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
NV is now OBAMA!!!!!!!
Posted by: Obama ahead in NV today | August 21, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Have we EVER seen a Presidential candidate have to defend/explain his Patriotism more….a website to “Stop the Smears”, and now 40 Dems to “whip” Hillary supporters into submission at the convention. I have never seen anything like this.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Speaking of houses, has Obama ever explained why he approached Tony Rezko for that sweetheart deal with his house? What mistake, specifically, did he admit to there, and given how much slimy stuff that Rezko, the slumlord, did while remaining friends with Obama, is there any indication that he’s learned a lesson about how a public servant ought to behave?
Posted by: A3k | August 21, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
It is great to see the Republicans squirm and whine like this!! If the Dems stay on this economic message with discipline for the next two + months Obama will steamroll McSame in November.
Posted by: Steve T. | August 21, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
McCain should have said, “I have seven houses? Those aren’t the houses I knew.”
Posted by: BJD | August 21, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Steve T: This is just silly. Who will this persuade to vote for Obama? People who hate houses?
Posted by: Choogle | August 21, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
I’m a democrat, and I just can’t stomach Obama…he is completely unelectable. At least McCain is a centrist. I know dozens of fellow democrats who will vote for Sen. McCain. It’s over.
Posted by: Dem for McCain | August 21, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Debra – If you and your thousand or so women still hold a grudge against Obama for Hillary losing the primary, and decide to go vote for McCain instead, then you were never democrats in the first place.
If you were true dems, then your values and principles would matter more to you than the party nominee. And you know damn well that McCain doesn’t support democratic party values. In fact, he will set those values back at least 10 years if elected. Never mind the next 5000 dead troops and loss of foreign good will. (And maybe even another Cold War.)
If you don’t like Obama, and want to become a republican, then go ahead, that’s your choice.
Posted by: Dave | August 21, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
BTW, I’d avoid answering what level of income makes someone “rich” as well. The only reason someone would ask the question is to set a level at which we can all stop being concerned about whether it’s fair to take incrementally more income from them via the income tax.
Given that Obama is promising to aggressively redistribute money by raising taxes, it’s important for him to expand the pool of taxable people. I hope someone thinks to ask him about that…
Posted by: A3k | August 21, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Obama has a new populist theme, but we’re not buying! Iraq was his theme against Hillary (who was running on the economy). I want him and his celebrity campaign to go away. It has done more to hurt him, with the rock star arenas, cover of PEOPLE, and Extra interviews, world tours….
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Mccain is a centrist??? Have you actually READ anything the guy says? I guess having no plan at all technically makes you a centrist, but he supports Democratic ideals about 90% as much as Bush does. In other words, he doesn’t.
Get a grip and actually read some policy papers for a change. Or don’t vote.
Posted by: Dave | August 21, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Obama is not wanting a “yes man” as his VP…that’s right, he doesn’t know how to lead and make up his own mind, so he’s going to need a VP that can do the job for him.
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
McCain has 20 houses – so what? He’s done well for himself. Maybe someday I can own 20 homes. Why is it that the rich are made to look like the bad guy – no poor guy has ever given me a job it’s always been a rich guy! Thank goodness for the rich guy.
Posted by: jamaljk | August 21, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Spot on Carrie:
“The McCains – bought houses that they could afford
The Obamas – bought a house they couldn’t afford with the help of a convicted felon
Let me know which you think is worse. A person who has money and invests it in real estate, or a person who tries to get around the system to live beyond their means.
Obama once again opens a can of worms. Their campaign is in disaster.
“
Posted by: jk | August 21, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Like many of the other honest conservatives out there, it is clear that the last 8 years have not been good. I ask Regan’s question: “are you better off now than you were 8 years ago?”
No.
I and many others are voting Obama this time around. SOMEthing has got to change.
Posted by: California conservative | August 21, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Funny, Al Gore rolls around in oil while telling us to conserve and Liberals lap his testicles. No hypocrisy for McCain here. He isn’t telling me to move into a hut like someone’s brother.
Posted by: Bonano | August 21, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
At least McCain is a centrist. He will work for the country, not for himself. It is clear that Obama is out for himself only.
Posted by: Lucien | August 21, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
McCain is a P.O.W. He can get away with everything. Examples:
# of houses gaffe: “This is a guy who lived in one house for five and a half years — in prison,” spokesman Brian Rogers told the Washington Post.
Miss Buffalo Chip gaffe: McCain spokesman Brian Rogers fired back by saying that Americans “know that John McCain’s faith and character were tested and forged in ways few can fathom.”
Cone of Silence gaffe: “The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous,” Ms. Wallace said.
Posted by: cincyr | August 21, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
I love the Playskool Presidential Symbol Obama used to have. It came straight from the I Can Be President Kit. It’s so cute how he replaces so many American icons with his propaganda, what a guy.
Posted by: Morgo | August 21, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Can’t wait until Rezko is sentenced Sept. 2.
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
“McCain wants WORLD WAR III”
But we only have one left!
Posted by: len | August 21, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
e·lite: 1. A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status.
–American Heritage Dictionary
When you call someone an “elitist”, like McCain has been doing to Obama, you are playing the class-warfare card. End of discussion.
But I guess it’s upsetting to conservatives that we’re on to their game.
You see, the problem is that McCain really IS a member of the American elite.
Now, Obama is certainly not hurting — his best-selling books have brought his family financial security.
But unlike Obama, who came from humble beginnings, and had to earn everything he has, McCain has been part of the elite since birth.
McCain is the son and grandson of admirals, who finished at the bottom of his Naval Academy class but got promoted anyway.
He’s married to a multimillionaire (whom he dumped his first wife for).
He owns at least 7, but by some counts 10 or 12, houses. The dude walks around in $500 Italian loafers!
McCain’s tax plan heavily favors the rich — giving them a 9% break, while giving the middle class only 1.5%.
That’s what a genuine, certified, bona-fide, gold-plated elitist looks like.
Posted by: MaximusNYC | August 21, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Scott,
RE: “Too scared to take the chance that maybe, just maybe we have the one who “could” change this world.”
I hope you don’t wonder why people refer to Obama as the Obamessiah and refer to people such as yourself as koolaid drinkers.
What about the world, specifically, do you expect Obama to change, how, and when? So far he’s said a whole lot of nothing, but with flourish, in a way that allows his followers to impose their own divergent hopes and dreams on him, though most of what you want, he’s never promised and does not intend to deliver.
Posted by: A3k | August 21, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
How did FDR feel our pain? How did JFK? Oh they were Democrats, so they had the feel our pain gene that negated their huge piles of cash? What utter crap.
Posted by: Morgo | August 21, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
I am black and embrasss as hell listening to Obama go on the attack now. His attacks are very petty and grade school like. Why would he even bring up John Mccain homes when he knows they want a chance to attack him on Rezko. HIs campaign is looking very desparate.
I am sure those homes are in Cindy name. Many times, I’ve said elitism has nothing to do with how much money you have. It is about those people who went to ivy league universities and believes they are better than everybody else. Obama is getting mad because his poll numbers are dropping.
Elitist Obama is ashame to admit he had a brother living in Kenya on $1 a day. How about helping out your borther Obama. You made $4 million from book sales last year. Now Hannity is out there having a telethon for Obama brother.
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HRC is the only one who can save this ticket right now!!!!!
Posted by: Anon 1 | August 21, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Some of us are old enough to remember McCain and the Savings & Loan scandal – the Rezco deal with Obama is nothing – under every microscope in America and they find nothing. Brian Rogers’ response proves the lies these people tell because they have no issues [arugula and all that BS] and BTW, quit lying about Obama’s tax policy – it lowers taxes for almost all Americans.
Posted by: Don | August 21, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Mccain took the campaign down into the gutter a month ago with his character assasination/insinuation ads. After all, what the heck does Paris Hylton have to do with the future of the country? But, the great “citizens” of America started eating it up, demonstrating their real character and judgement.
Now, Obama is hitting back on softballs thrown to him by a Mccain gaffes. What do you people expect? You only respond to, and lap up this kind of BS, no matter where it comes from – as long as it matches your own BS. That’s why the American people get the kind of candidates and government they deserve. You don’t demand more of your candidates any more than you demand better of yourselves.
A true, admirable, and well functioning democracy cannot exist in an ecosytem of an ingnorant, imature, electorate. Welcome to America baby!
Posted by: Wigten | August 21, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Wow, imagine, Barrack forgot he had a racist anti American pastor, then claims he was never in church the how many times remarks were made to that extent and that his mentor never mentored him in hate?
McCain like many in Washington or even state level offices probably has either investment people or his spouse handle those types of affairs. Ask Donald Trump how many houses he owns.
Stay on issues and not trash attacks as this should not have even been a questions for reporters to ask in the first place. It’s a none of your business issue and if Obama can forget his pastors remarks and the hate he was brought up in. Forget to let someone other than himself play the race card before crying wolf about it, etc… If he can forget saying this while doing that and forget that he is supposed to be defending not looking down on us poor folks, then John McCain is allowed this slip on a non government issue.
Andy Z. A.
Posted by: Andy Zeus Anderson | August 21, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Obama is definitely throwing stones from a glass house–his own. He tries to pretend he is an average joe with his line about people who “have one house, like me.” Give me a break–how many people have a $1.6 million dollar house like him? In fact that is what he paid for it, but it is worth more because he enlisted his good friend Tony Rezko (convicted felon) to buy the lot next door for full price so he (Obama) could get a $300,000 price cut on his own house!
$300,000 in dirty money. That’s Obama. He acknowledges it. He called the transaction a “boneheaded” mistake, It was worse than that, but it is a good reflection of his judgment.
At least Cindy McCain can afford her houses.
Posted by: Nancy | August 21, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
I’m always amused at the Hillary supporters who say they’re for McCain. Here’s a guy who jokes about Chelesa’s looks, cheats on his first wife because she was disfigured in a car accident, marries a new wife for money, enters her jokingly into a topless beauty contest in S.D., makes an old joke about rape and apes, and then tries to make hay with Hillary supporters? Wow! Don’t you think that if McCain had faced off on Hillary, you’d have had the exact same bitterness as you now have with Obama? Get over it, and put America first for a change. McSame’s a disaster just waiting to happen!
Posted by: cmgmaggie | August 21, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
To the all the Obama cultists, there you go. Kinda skewers your little spiel about McCain.
Again, gotta hurt that McCain is 5 points ahead in the national polls (and what, 9 points ahead on who’s a better steward of the economy – a bread & butter issue for the Dems).
Ah – can’t wait for November and a McCain win, gonna revel in the despair of the Obama cultists and grinding the defeat of their Messiah into them.
Posted by: mhuitt | August 21, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
I guess with a wife worth over $100 million dollars, along with his day job, McCain can afford to hire idiots who sit at the computer all day long and comment on blogs. When Obama is president, I’m sure they will be able to find a real job.
Posted by: Sickntired | August 21, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Choogle, Maybe you didn’t notice but the Obama campaign is linking the “houses” gaffe to the issue of the poor state of the economy and the Republicans’ culpability for it and insensitivity regarding its effects on regular folks. It is called framing an issue and it is about time the Dems started doing it effectively!
Posted by: Steve T. | August 21, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Nice response there, Brian Rogers. Didn’t your boss say Americans are middle class unless you make $5 million dollars a year? Why are you attacking a hard-working middle class American like Obama (your definition, not mine) for being middle class?
Posted by: Sidney Shepp | August 21, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Wow…..how about covering the 40 people who will be doing bodyguard work at the Dem convention to “whip” Hillary protesters into submission. They are planning on some protests, which as a Hillary supporter, I would love. But the think it won’t be as bad as they are talking about. Doesn’t matter..
25% of Hillary supporter NOT voting BO and 11% undecided.
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Steve T: I noticed. The idea is sound strategically. But this spot is laughable.
Posted by: Choogle | August 21, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
McCain is a P.O.W. He can get away with everything. Examples:
# of houses gaffe: “This is a guy who lived in one house for five and a half years — in prison,” spokesman Brian Rogers told the Washington Post.
Miss Buffalo Chip gaffe: McCain spokesman Brian Rogers fired back by saying that Americans “know that John McCain’s faith and character were tested and forged in ways few can fathom.”
Cone of silence gaffe: “The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous,” Ms. Wallace said.
Posted by: cincyr | August 21, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
This is gold. Don’t stop the music Obama!
Posted by: SpaceCat | August 21, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
“Who gives a damn how many houses McCain has, that has nothing to do with the Campaign, if they are his or his wife’s or whoever they have nothing to do with anything. Do we as Americans have a problem with wealth? why is that a problem, that is the American Dream, people come to this country to find wealth, happiness, etc. why do we take issue with people that have plenty? we are not Third World, this is ridiculous.”
No, so the GOP has spent the last 24 years labeling dems as elitist – that I have a problem with. Look at what they have done to the middle class in this country – doesn’t that concern you at all.
Posted by: dm92 | August 21, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
I hear desperation in the voices of the Dem’s now that new polls are out showing our next new President John McCain slightly ahead. Obama certainly has shown it’s “ABOVE MY PAY GRADE” to be President ummmm.
If he’s not reading it off a monitor the man simply can’t make a point.
Lots of middle class Amercan’s own more then one house so it’s funny to see the Dem’s jumping on something that’s such a non issue. At least the man know’s how to invest.
The number’s aren’t lying people are realy starting to understand that Obama
will never have the PAY GRADE of President of the United States.
Thank you Rick Warren for exposing a fraud.
Posted by: NH | August 21, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
“A man who bought his own mansion under some pretty shady circumstances has no business commenting on anyone’s homes. I thought Obama was supposed to be the new kind of politician? He sounds pretty typical to me.”
How does one run a good campaign dealing with all of the lying bull from the McCain camp?
Posted by: dm92 | August 21, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Can we please dispense with the idea that John McCain is some grand enterprising businessman that built a personal fortune?
He left his first wife and married a rich heiress, who inherited a big bundle from daddy warbucks… I’m not advocating ‘seizing’ it from them – but let’s not pretend John McCain is fabulously wealthy by the sweat of his brow.
He’s fabulously wealthy because he married a fabulously wealthy heiress.
He owns a lot of houses, wears $500 shoes, and never has to work, worry about Social Security, mortgages, paying for his kid’s education, health care, or any of the other things us ‘little people’ have to deal with because he married a very rich second wife.
John McCain married into money…. a LOT of money.
He’s John Kerry – but without the other side’s party convention handing out purple band-aids.
Posted by: Married into money | August 21, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
thank god somebody is finally calling grandpa on his stuff. Its ludicrous for McCain to try and paint anyone as elite. and I am really sick of his campaign pulling the POW card whenever he makes a gaff or someone questions him. He is an old rich extremely ambitious guy who wants the white house so bad that he is still running for it, third time, at the age of 72. McCAin would rather wage a war than win the peace. This man is still trying to redeem Vietnam… and he will keep trying until he has a victory under his belt.. even if it means starting another war…
Posted by: JUST JOE | August 21, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
“Teresa Heinz Kerry is worth multiples more than Cindy McCain. I didn’t see democrats complaining about his wealth four years ago. Lots of houses, too, including a mansion in Georgetown. John Kennedy was born into extreme wealth. FDR was wealthy as well — his dad was president of one railroad and VP of another.
Nice try — Obama — the man without a plan”
I also don’t remember John and Teresa calling others elitist and out-of-touch.
Posted by: dm92 | August 21, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
And there’s another good point someone mentioned. Rezko? Somebody mention Rezko? Please don’t tell me you’re a McCain supporter! Because if you are and have the gull to mention Rezko, I have a question for you: Remember the Keating 5 scandal? Well, just guess why it wasn’t the Keating 4. You guessed it: your man McCain was number 5 on that list. The fraud and money schemes they were involved with make Rezko look like a school yard idiot. And further, guess who was left on the hook to pay for it: YOU, THE TAXPAYER. That’s right: you were left to pay the bills on a scandal that involved some of the richest men on earth, including Mr. Seven-Houses-I-Forgot-How-Many-I-Have McCain.
Posted by: cmgmaggie | August 21, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Debra: “and WHO CARES?”
Everybody who faces foreclosure?
Everybody who thinks it is pathetic that John McCain wants to give himself and his family a payraise of $300,000 to $400,000
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Now that all of McCains personal honor is gone, what is he going to run on?
Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
I honestly think the race is going to be a landslide for McCain. I was a Hillary supporter…I don’t care what anyone says, I’m voting for Sen. McCain. Period.
Posted by: Melva | August 21, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Only in liberal land is making and investing your money a bad thing. Well let me apoligize on behalf of us “Rich People” for making to much money. You know you are right maybe you should take more of my money and give to those less fortunate than I. No matter the fact that I am a minority and paid my own way through college, I mean I realize that this oppurtunity is only availible to the rich in this country. So make sure that if you make a good living it was not because of your hardwork it was because you were fortunate. So all of you fortunate college students who are supporting BHO remember dont get a job after college just hang out and hope to “FORTUNATE”.
Better yet why dont we let BHO go be the president of the EU, I mean he is a citizen of the world. Libs I know the truth sometimes hurts. The ones that are out of touch are you guys which is why you have had a steady decline in the polls. Sometimes you can not hide the truth
Posted by: D Marin | August 21, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
cmgmaggie….some of us JUST DON’T WANT OBAMA AS PREZ. We Hillary supporters prefer centrists…..McCain and Hillary and candidates who put their country before themselves….Obama has no cred on this. I am a Republican, who has voted for Dems if I thought they were the better candidate…..I contributed for the first time this year, to Hillary. For me it was a win/win if either Hill or McCain became CIC. NOBAMA IS UNACCEPTABLE!
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
“The crowd laughed.”
What a terrible, biased article. The only person who laughed was Obama. He looks like a fool, pacing about criticizing McCain, stumbling through his comments. I thought this guy was supposed to be a great orator. You Dims better come up with better than this if you don’t want to get blown away.
Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Well, I wonder if McCain used sleazy help convicted felon to buy any of his homes like Obama? If McCain knew Rezko he too could have gotten some sweetheart deals and then done a land swap to add even more value to the home for cheap. Obama might want to remember the old saying, “This is just the pot calling the kettle black.”
Posted by: obiewan | August 21, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
YOu see someone filled Obama’s head that John Mccain was last in his Naval Academy classes. SO Ivy League Obama thinks it’s beneath him to be losing to a Naval below avaerage pilot. Obama thinks he is too educated to lose to John Mccain and that’s my friends is the definition of elitist. lol
That’s where Obama elitism is seen. He looks aloof and arrogant many times on the campaign trail. He felt he did not need to study the questions Rick Warren gave both candidates before hand. Afterall, he was going up against a below average John Mccain. Well I hope he got the message.
John Mccain adopts babies. John Mccain don’t let babies die in the utility room gulping for AIR because he wanted to futher his pro choice credits..
Posted by: Xtreme | August 21, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
I couldn’t care less how many homes he has or if he remembers any of them.
If Obama’s camp believes this type of thing is going to win him the election than we Democrats are never going to get back into the White House.
I miss Hillary.
Posted by: ErinWasser | August 21, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Obama has given so many on-the-record conflicting stories on the purchase of his home with Rezko (in Rezko’s wife’s name for distance) that he should be careful about bringing up real estate.
Obama is running against Bush since he has no record to run on.
I still am amazed that he has avoided indictment in the Chicago “pay for play” scam. Obama and the Gov of IL profited by 100′s of thousands of dollars.
Is the MSM going to wait to tell this story until Fitzgerald indicts Obama? Then the story will be that “poor victimized” Obama has been indicted for political purposes….I don’t know the truth about that particular scandal. But I do know from Obama’s public statements that he is lying…Too many conflicting stories and outright untruths.
Do your research…the media will no do it for you.
Posted by: Jackie | August 21, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
D Marin — great that you’re rich, Dude. By the way — We ALL paid our own way through college, etc. But take a look at how you did under Clinton and how you are doing economically under Bush and tell me how you’re going to support McSame.
Posted by: Secret | August 21, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
“This is just the pot calling the kettle black.” it’s a typical of BHO
Posted by: Begok Lu BHO | August 21, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
The ad sounds a little like Sesame Street: “McCain has seven! Seven houses! Ah, Ah, Ah!”
Which is perfect since Gov. Tim Kaine came back on CNN today to say, “McCain just can’t count high enough” to know how many houses he has.
Posted by: L.Eff | August 21, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Obama has got to be kidding if he thinks that people care that McCain doesn’t know how many houses he has. Big deal. What I care about is who has more experience as a leader and who has a better grasp of international matters. I’ll take McCain’s “house”answer over Obama’s “It’s above my pay grade” response and other idiotic answers he has given to questions. As for leadership, it is telling to me that the Obama campaign never mentions Obama’s leadership ositions. Oh that’s right…he doesn’t have any. He has been a US Senator for 3 yrs-2 of which he has done nothing but run for President…he was a one term Illinois Legislator, which I hear he had no leadership role other than trying to have the Black lawmakers stick together no matter what; and he was a Community Organizer, with no results that he shows.
Get real Obama. And how can anyone seriously vote for this guy with this “leadership experience” which amounts to ZILCH. I don’t care which party you might belong to, Rep or Dem, but that is mighty risky voting for Obama.
Posted by: doug norman | August 21, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
As for the poster trying to say the position ads from the McCain campaign were the same deal and turn about is fair play.
One set of ads and attacks is based on issues and a holier than thou attitude from one of the biggest political puppets of all time. Still the messages pertain to personal character and the lies Mr.O has told, the falsehood in his plans where plans actually exist instead of window dressing. They are about his record on the record and his warbles and double standards. They are about issues.
Barrack opened up the Paris Hilton ads by playing media darling with set up candid photo ops in dropped vacation destinations, grand standing in friendly nations on his world tour instead of facing possible foes on their turf. From the word go it’s been high profile vacations and a feel of I can beat John with my eyes closed attitude.
Mr. O presumed to be smarter than the rest of us on airing up tires, he said we clung to guns and god out of what was that again and has looked down on the rest of us like he is something special. Wow tough life raised in Hawaii and paid through law school, makes a few million, then plays dirty politics and the race card so well he is where he is today.
My only question is has he signed any autographs yet. The ads brought him down to being a man and not a messiah, and even minority friends of mine are saying if Obama is our first minority President he may be our last for a very long time. There are minorities that should be given a shot, the ones that do the work and have the ideas and morals to lead our country. Obama wants you to hand everything to him because he is black, he thinks this is affirmative action we are playing here and has shown nothing of being a serious leader. His temper scares me, he will ignore a bomb in New York, or people being murdered in Iraq, but man have you got trouble if your words make him look like less than a god.
Geeze, give me a break NoBama is the best thing that could happen to us.
Posted by: Andy Zeus Anderson | August 21, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
McCain and John Glenn were not guilty in the Keating 5 flap….I watched the CNN bios last night (will be rerun this weekend). McCain’s was so much fuller and credible. Obama had his half sister speak on his behalf.
McCain all the way!
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
McCain is not up to date with how many houses his rich wife owns, and Barack Obama is not up to date with how many children his estranged father gave life.
Obama doesn’t know younger brother George Obama lives in a hut in Kenya for 1 dollar a month. He was totally clueless that Rezno in his district was a slumlord, which is why they bought a house together. The house Obama talks about, where he and wife Michelle lives blissfully unaware they got a hefty rabat from Rezno.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | August 21, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Coming up with a relevant political attack on McCain is “ABOVE OBAMA’S PAY GRADE”.
Posted by: rusty255 | August 21, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
“If Obama’s camp believes this type of thing is going to win him the election than we Democrats are never going to get back into the White House.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | August 21, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
HEY BELLE
HOW MANY MILLIONS DID EXXON JOHN GET FROM BIG OIL—–WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
I am a Democrat but I don’t understand why it matters how many houses someone has. The McCains are wealthy. So what? Obama will be just as wealthy, more so probably, when he’s 72. It has nothing at all to do with their stand on issues. Maybe they should both move into trailers furnished with plastic lawn chairs so we will feel better.
Posted by: presto | August 21, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Talk about the media being in the bag for Obama. Why aren’t you asking the Obama camp if this qualifies as a “distraction” from the real issues?
Is McCain paying his mortgage? Is one of McCain’s houses in Georgia or Iraq. Then, who cares? Pretty desperate stuff for Obama and the Media if you ask me.
Posted by: LB | August 21, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
This race is WAY over…Obama’s people are panicky about all of it, and it’s slipping through their fingers…go President McCain!
Posted by: Lemuel | August 21, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Is it possible, John Mccain and politico set up Obama by asking that question. Maybe they wanted to hit Obama on Rezko scandal. How could the GOP have responded so fast and set up a website on rezko/obama?
I think John Mccain open the door and Obama ran right through it. lol
Posted by: Trap | August 21, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Unless you’re a multi millionaire, how could anyone even think of supporting McSame?
Do you want more wars? Do you want the draft reinstated? Do you want tax breaks for the rich and major corporations and none for you?
I guess if you think the everything is ok in America, you think Bush is a great president, you listen to Rush Limpbrain and/or Sean Hannity and you’re dumb enough to believe what they say, voting for McSame makes sense.
Personally, I don’t want another rich, out of touch, old goat who will protect all the rich and screw the rest in the White House.
Wake up America, before it’s to late.
Four more years of McSame and America’s toast.
Posted by: BarackStar | August 21, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
HEY BELLE
HOW MANY MILLIONS DID EXXON JOHN GET FROM BIG OIL—–WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP
Posted by: Belle Starr | August 21, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
I think a guy who always has his nose in the air and looks down on others, a guy who loves the rock star arena, a guy who thinks middle Americans are bitter and cling to guns and religion, a guy who just screams aloof, writes books about HIMSELF….he just seems likes he’s so wrapped up in him. In CNN bio last night he said his druggie years were selfish years….which years haven’t been selfish years. Does he really want to serve this country….what does he have to show for it except being a community organizer who got some asbestos removed from a bldg. What is it that doesn’t resonate with so many about Obama? Too bad his parents abandoned him…it all starts there.
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Everywhere you turn there is some Obama fan calling McCain, McSame etc.. They need to have Bush running for President or they can’t win. Problem is he is not.
There is not one Republican in Washington who has bulked Bush more, or the RNC more than John McCain. Not one man or woman from either party that has spent more time working with both sides to reach common ground and get results.
I want a leader that can unite two parties and find common ground and real solutions. I do not want a president that is a puppet to his party and refuses to work with both sides. I do not want 4-8 more years of a divided congress spending our tax dollars to fight each other instead of working on what ails us as a nation.
Vote no on one issue wonders who fight against people not running for office. Spell it out loud and clear that compromise that works is better than fighting with no action. From Obama and Hillary’s health care plans promised only if elected instead of being brought to the floor for a vote now, to all those flip flops and flat out lies. There is no reason to elect this child like puppet on a string that thinks his minority status accounts for something when he has not done a thing to help minorities.
By the way, rubber stamp votes on other peoples bills is not doing something, introducing legislation even if it doesn’t pass is. McCain presents ideas, some good, some bad, and accepts input from both sides to make them stronger. He will balk the RNC if needed, and move our country forward. He does the job he is paid to do.
P.S. Another favorite is the claims of who is cow tailed to lobbyist etc.. McCain has drawn up, presented, and even passed more legislation to prevent and expose this than anyone. Obama is raking in record numbers from special interest like Unions, Insurance Companies, Lawyers, Affirmative Action Groups, and Doctors who want his high dollar plans to pay them passed. He has been bought to the tune of over 300 million in influence. How blind can you be to those numbers, even Hillary Clinton’s supporters are smarter than that with 25% saying no way to Obama 08.
Posted by: Andy Zeus Anderson | August 21, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Seven Houses!!!!
Is that all.
Posted by: Omentum | August 21, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
It seems to me McCain set this trap, the Obama people went right for it…the guy thought he was doing a favor for Obama…he’s wrong. Oh boy was he wrong!
Posted by: Doris | August 21, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Best thing Obama can do… now that McCain is going to “go nuclear”… is to flip it back on McCain and highlight his insane temper, his recklessness, his shoot-from-the-hip, quick draw style.
What a crock the McCain campaign is. They feign indignation at the smallest slight. At least Obama’s statements are true! What is the problem here? And it is beyond ridiculous for the campaign to now say that this is an on Cindy, because “she owns the houses”.
McCain is an angry, angry child with a temper and a temperment not suitable for the White House.
He will start digging his grave with his hyper-responsive attacks.
Posted by: McCain Is The Hulk | August 21, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
So, I just read McCain’s newest response: the houses really belong to his wife, so this is really an attack on Cindy, and he thought wives were off-limits. Ignoring, for a moment, how intellectually dishonest that response is, isn’t it kind of funny? Here’s a guy who “earned” his money the old-fashioned way (marrying into it), and now he’s hiding behind his wife’s skirts to protect himself from the accusation that he’s out of touch? Wow. How . . . effete.
Posted by: Angie | August 21, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Really – this is news? If it wasn’t about the number of houses, it would be about the size of Cindy’s bank accounts next week. We all know she’s a multi-millionaire. And she got the beer gig because it’s a family business.
Does it occur to anyone, that McCain hesitated because some/all of the properties may be in Cindy’s name? They maintain separate finances – maybe he was looking to give an answer more relevant to that perspective.
Bottom line – if Cindy’s wealth rubs you wrong, this isn’t news.
Posted by: FishMonger | August 21, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
McCain is more of a businessman you’d think.
Unfortunately, Obama’s association with business is linked with Rezko who will get sentenced to jail in the next couple months.
Posted by: nick | August 21, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
To Doug Norman,
You go man, what has so-called experience got us? 8 disasterous years of GB, lost over 4,000 of young men,
many maimed for life, for a war made from lies, have many of of youung people doubting any president who would call on them to serve(and justifiably so). Just what EXPERIENCE does John have after wrecking 5 airplanes, spent most of war in seclusion, dumped a wife who was crippled at the time. Those are experiences but not exactly ones I look for in the white house. This grandma
would take her chances on a little less of this experience.
Posted by: aw | August 21, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Mark Kraft…Obama got his house undermarket because of Rezko’s envlovement and then Rezko’s wifey bought lot next door so the Obama’s could buy a portion of it to expand their back yard.
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
How the heck does a first term US Senator who has never held a real job in his life make $4,000,000 a year???? If it’s his book deal and his campaign has bought tens of thousands of copies of the book is that not profiteering. When is Obama going to propose a windfall profit tax on himself.
Posted by: Bryan | August 21, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Quote” HOW MANY MILLIONS DID EXXON JOHN GET FROM BIG OIL—–WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP”
Yeah they conveniently forgot to mention the big oil money sent to the Obama campaign as well and blew the number up by a few hundred grand to make it sound far more scary.
Fact is that if McCain is elected and can get enough votes in congress we will see more domestic oil production that spells dollar to the economy, high paying jobs in the industry, lower cost at the pump. Exxon like many others here will earn money on it but those dollar feed our economy.
Obama’s main oil money comes mostly from companies with a bigger stake in overseas oil, sending billions from our economy, often into the hands of our enemies. His policies are to block the growth of domestic production which increases foreign oil demands. It keeps prices high at the pumps and will actually push them higher in the future. These companies will earn more while working less and curbing overhead cost by drilling overseas.
Both have oil interested in them, the money headed towards the republicans spells relief for Americans and a better economy on that front. Obama’s oil money buys continued shipping of dollars to foreign interest, no relief for Americans, and a continued big oil leak in our deficit.
A vote for Obama is a vote for Osama just look at the oil in his pockets to see where it comes from.
Andy Z. A.
Posted by: Andy Zeus Anderson | August 21, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Makes you wonder why McCain is asking fellow republicans for cash donations. I am getting tired of the silly e-mails.
Posted by: Ben Straub | August 21, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
—posted by Rodney:
HEY BELLE
HOW MANY MILLIONS DID EXXON JOHN GET FROM BIG OIL—–WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP
———-
I dunno, let’s do a little research shall we.
Well, what do you know – Obama has recieved more money in donations from Exxon than McCain has.
-Through June, Exxon employees have given Obama $42,100 to McCain’s $35,166. Chevron favors Obama $35,157 to $28,500, and Obama edges out McCain with BP $16,046 vs. $11,500.-
Maybe, just maybe – you shouldn’t be spouted something you obviously know nothing of.
Posted by: mhuitt | August 21, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Heaven forbid that anyone is successful in the USA! If Obama had his way, nobody but he and his Chicago cronies would have a dime that is not supplied by the government.
I wonder if he remembers that he made $4,000,000 last year on his book sales?
Posted by: SteveSD | August 21, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
The desperation of McCain is palpable and blatant. Their response was a complete lie.
1)Hawaii doesn’t have private beaches..I guess McCain would be looking for one b/c that’s what he’s use too. Obama was seen at a public beach and pool with his kids.
2)Hawaii is where Obama use to live. Btw, is grandmother who is unable to fly for medical reasons lives their. Pretty good reason to visit grandma since you haven’t had time for the last 10 months of campaigning.
3)The Rezko deal has been gone thru 40 times. No wrong doing found. Btw, he got the house at a low price b/c the Dr. needed to sell. He entered 3 bids and the Dr. bit on a lower bid, if he would of held out he would have gotten more. Btw, I live down the street and so I know the area very well.
4)McCain get ready for the Keating 5…your little scandal that cost American taxpayers over $4 billion. Btw, was censured by the Congress, that doesn’t happen for being a boyscout does it?
Posted by: chris | August 21, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
MHUITT
if employees support someone that is one thing–if exxon john gets millions from exxon that is something else–surely that is not too hard for you to understand.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
@Debra:
A guy who writes books about himself?
McCain has written at least three (okay, co-written, with spokesman Mark Salter)
Posted by: alex | August 21, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
We are a nation of WHINER Republicans. LOL It is upseting when your man’s OWN WORDS are used against him. Like 100 years in Iraq. If you are going to call someone an ELITIST, you’d better be careful. Cause then there is a thing called FACTS. Americans will wake up soon. Landslide for Obama in NOV. God bless OBAMA, a true, new kind of leader.
Posted by: Patrick - Portland | August 21, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
hey andy—three times as much given to mccain—-now you hnow what exxon john is about drill drill make billions more fo exxon—-you are laughable
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
It doesn’t matter to me how much wealth anyone has as long as they aren’t hypocritical like the media’s darling, Al Gore, and (previously) “there are 2 America’s” John Edwards, whose idea of life is “What’s mine is mine, and what’s your’s is mine, too”. Haven’t heard any of that pompous baloney from John McCain.
Posted by: LH | August 21, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Funny watching libs pick on McCain when Obama thinks we have 58 states. To top it off he has been to 57 of them with just 1 more to go. LOL. Glad that Harvard education paid off for him. $4,000,000 a year for running for office is not bad coin. I think I’ll have my wife run for President in 2012
Posted by: Bryan | August 21, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
“The desperation of McCain is palpable.” Really? He didn’t sound too desperate on Saturday in the Saddleback church. He sounded pretty damn confident to me.
Posted by: Carrie | August 21, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
@SteveSD:
It has nothing to do with being successful, and everything to do with the image that John McCain is trying to portray.
He is trying to say that he understands the regular guy’s situation – but he is so far away from that situation, and has been for over 26 years.
The man doesn’t know about the economy, he doesn’t know how to use the internet, and he doesn’t know how many homes he has.
Two other things John McCain doesn’t know:
Czechoslovakia no longer exists.
The difference between Sunni and Shia.
Posted by: alex | August 21, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
To Debra: Just because someone is legally acquitted does not mean that they are innocent of wrongdoing. Nolo Press has legal definitions if you would like to consult them. McCain himself calls Keating “my asterisk.” This admission is from the candidate’s own mouth. The book _Trust Me_ by Michael Binstein and Charles Bowden has more background on this.
I don’t know about you, but McCain’s comment about wanting everybody to get rich just sounds like more of the materialistic drabble we don’t need. During WWII (in which my grandfather helped the Allied struggle in the Pacific), we were told to sacrifice to help our country. Even as a little girl I heard tales of “Victory gardens” to grow the family’s own food, and sacrifices of food and other materials (metals). Instead, McCain wants everyone to want more–to aspire to seven houses, multiple condos, private planes, consume, consume, consume. Where are the lessons for our children about being content with modest provisions and hard work, with a few treats every so often. Signed, disappointed churchgoing conservative.
Posted by: Gaius Tullius | August 21, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
We need the right smart people making good decisions. Are we better off than we were eight years ago? We need a democrat back in the white house. Go Obama.
Posted by: Joe | August 21, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Please. Obama needs to get real. There have been lots of wealthy presidents and candidates: Washington, Jefferson, both Roosevelts, Hoover, Kennedys, LBJ, Kerry and now McCain. Obama isn’t some poor street person himself….he and his wife are NOT POOR! I don’t care how many houses the McCain’s have. That is their business. It has nothing to do with a man’s reputation, his ability to lead, his character, his credibilty, honesty and humility. I find Obama lacking in most of those attributes; that is what he should be worrying about.
Posted by: Wizard | August 21, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Obama has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous. I don’t care what McCain (really his wife) owns? I do care that Barak Obama wants to redistribute money from people who pay taxes to those who don’t by giving this latter group “tax refunds”, though they never paid money in. When liberals like Obama talk about “fairness”, middle class Americans like me grab my wallet. What they really will do is take away from the middle class to give to the bottom, while the truly rich go unscathed.
Posted by: Eric | August 21, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
“We need a democrat back in the white house.”
Yeah, and it doesn’t matter how inept he is either.
Posted by: Mack | August 21, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
What McCain does know is what it is to be truly hungry. He know what it is to be beaten and threatened daily for years on end. He knows what it is to see American soldiers die fighting for their country honorably. He knows what it is to be the father of a Marine serving in Iraq. He knows what it means to adopt a child instead of aborting a child. He knows that in America anyone can succeed, anyone can become president even Obama or Hillary. He knows what it takes to defend freedom. He knows that voting to continue the murder of babies born alive is wrong. And he knows how to tell the truth.
Obama knows smoke and mirrors politics, he knows crooks and terrorists. He worshiped at the alter of a church led by a racists, militant, hate filled preacher for 20 years. And Obama lies and lies some more when he is caught.
Posted by: Bryan | August 21, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Can’t wait for McCain’s ad they will start running next Thursday, ripping into Obama/Rezko real estate. Cindy McCain had apparently 8 homes/condos and if I were the Senator, I wouldn’t concern myself with them either, because he has been DOING HIS JOB FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS, and not just working 143 days in the Senate like the empty suit.
McCain ’08/Hillary ’12
Posted by: Debra | August 21, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Who’s more elitist, McCain or Obama? Hmmm, think arugula. This effort by Obama will fall completely flat. He’s got a heck of a lot more problems than McCain’s 7 houses can help, like his Illinois ‘born alive’ abortion vote, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, etc. Of course, I don’t think you’ll see much coverage of those stories on this website!
Posted by: ozone | August 21, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Bottom line: John, with the help of Cindy, owns 7 houses, of which John was unsure about the number; Tony, with the help of Barack, owns 11 slum buildings, of which Barack wasn’t aware about the conditions. Quite touchy, I can feel it.
Posted by: Julian | August 21, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
I own three properties and I paid fair market value for them. I make less than 40,000 a year, am I rich? I wish I had gotten the same deal that Obama had gotten from Rezko, but then again I don’t get deal with felons on a regular basis.
Posted by: Jim | August 21, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Considering that McCAIN and NObama are BOTH very well off …
Nice try, NObama – but, Sorry, it actually does NOT matter !!
McCAIN or Hillary in ’08
Posted by: CJB in CA | August 21, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
And there it is. The old democratic playbook is back in play with one of its’ oldest additions, class warfare. This country was built on the achievements of its citizens, yet the Democrats want to shame them, tax them, and blame them for all the evils of the common man. Why can’t the Democrats see that income redistribution and economic equality lead to socialism? And bonus points if you can tell me the last Socialist country with any sort of strong and sustainable economy. Even France was smart enough to kick them out and bring back a Capitalist! Good heavens, France is now ahead of us in two separate ways, they are smart enough to bring back Capitalism and nuclear energy!
Posted by: chris | August 21, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Gee, someone with adult kids and $$ owning investment properties… that has never happened among middle class people in the US – ever, not even remotely possible. I figure I can let it slide since McCain has spent a heck of alot more time actually working for his state as a Senator than Obama has. As a citizen of IL, I can say I am not impresses with Obama spending more time on his political aspirations than doing the job he was elected to.
Obama must like jumping from the frying pan into the fire. He has 1 property (actually 1 plus a piece) that he had to deal with convicted felon Tony Rezko on – TWICE.
Posted by: Michael | August 21, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
The experience argument is quite interesting. Historically, the most experienced presidents have been disasters. In fact, Obama has more experience than Abraham Lincoln, who had only served one term in the House of Representatives when he became president.
Posted by: Aaron | August 21, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
LETS SEE MCCAIN HAS SEVEN HOMES—-FOR YOU WITH MORTGAGE PROBLEMS–DO YOU THINK MCCAIN IS IN FORCLOSURE—HE IS SO FAR OUT OF TOUCH WITH WORKING PEOPLE HE IS DISGUSTING.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
I like this story better than most recent ABC stories – its balanced (McCain gets lots of rebuttal time).
In the crazy world of US politics this is a big story. Some of you may remember how George Bush Senior’s campaign was scuttled by a similar attack. I don’t believe Americans have an issue with people being rich, but they do have an issue with people who are “stupid rich”. Not knowing how many homes you own definitely falls into this category.
Thanks Jake.
PS I’m finding a lot of the posts, particularly the Republican ones, are very hateful. I’m open to Republican viewpoints but these comments are really creepy and discredit the people they’re supporting. Can we raise the tone here a bit?
Posted by: bmacmill | August 21, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Obama’s point, with which it is easy to understand, is that McCain has no understanding of the lives of most Americans. We work, we struggle to pay taxes, we struggle to pay for college, he worry about losing our health insurance or bankruptcy. We see inflation go up while wages are stagnant. We see our retirement accounts shrinking. It is very relevant whether our president appreciates the lives of ordinary Americans.
McCain is only familiar with the lives of the very wealthy. He can’t pump gas. He can’t operate a computer. He’s probably never clipped coupons or had to pick between paying for dental work or a car payment.
Do we really need someone for president who doesn’t know how many homes he owns, thinks the economy is just swell, and is befriended and advised by someone who calls Americans whiners?McCodger is not who we need for president now.
Posted by: JTS | August 21, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
fact check, is cindy mccain going to reveal her true net worth.
that would be a no.
might reveal the half sisters and mob connections.
not enough servants getting answers about the houses to deal with those too.
By the way, John McCain lied when he said Cindy met Mother Theresa and suggested they adopt a child from MT’s orphanage.
Cindy McCain, per the Christian Science Monitor, lied about meeting Mother Theresa.
They only recently altered the website once this LIE was CAUGHT.
Posted by: kravitz | August 21, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
MCCAINS CLAIM TO WEALTH AND FAME–FIND A RICH BIMBO ON DRUGS—-
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
kravitz
DID YOU KNOW THAT MCCAIN DISTRIBUTES BOOSE TO CUBA—THOUGHT THAT WAS ILLEGAL.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
“He know what it is to be beaten”
There is the POW-card again. “LEAVE MCCAIN ALOOOOOONE: HE WAS A PRISONEER OF WAAAAAAR, WHAAAAA”
Wait, how did the Bush Administration call it again? Wasn’t it just a bit of hazing? AKA ‘enhanced interrogation’?
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
OBAMA’S CLAIM TO WEALTH AND FAME–FIND A CORRUPT SYRIAN SUGAR DADDY AND A RACIST PASTOR(S) THAT HATES AMERICA.—-
Posted by: pls go awaya | August 21, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
This site always gives me at least one good laugh per day. Republicans are more flexible than gold medal gymnasts! In 2004, they made fun of John Kerry and called him a “kept man” because he was married to a wealthy heiress. Now they’re clawing their faces and hollering about how unfair it is that that John McCain’s similar circumstances are under discussion.
Today’s biggest howl, though, came when the McCain campaign managed to play the POW card in commenting on Obama’s comments about the number of houses McCain can’t remember he has. Ya can’t make this stuff up.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | August 21, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
All of these comments are a clear reflection of what is wrong with politics in this country. No one has made one valid point regarding the serious issues facing this country. All I’ve read is personal attacks and partician talking points.
The Chinese and the Mid East Oil Sheiks are laughing all the way to the bank while we continue to shoot each other in the foot. Time to grow up people.
Posted by: Sad in Chicago | August 21, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
McCAIN’s Robers stated it best regarding NObama…
“Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses?”
Guess so – Now it looks like we will have to hear ALL about Rezko, Chicago, CAC, et al…
Stay tuned !!
McCLAIN or Hillary in ’08
Posted by: CJB in CA | August 21, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
PLS
LETS HEAR SOME FIGURES
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
I wish I was a prisoner of war, so then I could be indestructible as well.
Posted by: Scott | August 21, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
the pow card will blow up in mccains face—–the truth will be revealed.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Want figures, let’s start here:
Barack Obama is giving to charity more than $70,000 in contributions linked to an indicted Chicago businessman whose past connections to the Democratic presidential candidate have created a distraction and raised questions about his judgment. ABC News
Posted by: pls go awaya | August 21, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
scott—it must have been some kind of new torture–or mccain is a sadist—-AS HE WOULD NOT LEAVE—tell him willem
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Quote:
Posted by: Wizard | Aug 21, 2008 5:38:14 PM
We need the right smart people making good decisions. Are we better off than we were eight years ago? We need a democrat back in the white house. Go Obama.
___________
Hmmm are you talking about the first 4 years where Billy rode the effects of Reaganomics that were based on lower taxes, more dollars in the economy, and business growth that lowered the jobless rates? Or is it the last four years where Bills record tax hike stole money from businesses slowing their growth and reducing the creation of new jobs to the point that joblessness started growing and big companies started crumbling leading to the first recession under the Bush Administration, a card house set to crumble the moment any event like 9-11 or a 70 dollar barrel of oil happened?
Well I guess it was better for those who got a bigger welfare check and had an easier time getting it, with less enforcement of welfare fraud. I guess it was better for those who feared the folks at Ruby Ridge, and in Waco, and thought the Capitol Hillbillies was the best show on television with more betrayal and cheating than their favorite soap opera.
Give me a break, economic policies take years to manifest harm or good. A slide in profits or job growth takes months to years to effect the markets and expansion does not show benefits until the new buildings have employees staffing them and sales to report.
Keep more allows spend more and save more. Handing it to the Feds to spend on red tape and hand to a line of give me what I haven’t earned minded people doesn’t work. If taxes are raised let it be for the purpose of creating small business loans and grants, job education, and limit the time a person can get a check for doing nothing. Cut the red tape and close the loopholes that have so many record lawsuits going on. Cap the amounts of jury awards, and let free enterprise grow and end unemployment for good.
There are too many people that fear the worst in having a country with businesses that grow so fast they have to fight for workers. If we can get to that point where the jobless rate is narrowed down to those who can’t work or refuse to work companies will have no choice but offer more, and pay for benefits like insurance etc.. They will have one choice, make it happen or have no people to run the shop, but we can’t do that because we fear the rich getting richer and and more people getting rich.
We are afraid that Democrats would lose the welfare votes if everyone had a job and no one needed these programs. Say no to tax and spend policies, say no to Obamanomics as they don’t make sense or cents.
Posted by: Andy Zeus Anderson | August 21, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
“Obama has more experience than Abraham Lincoln, who had only served one term in the House of Representatives when he became president”. Au contraire. He was a circuit rider in the judicial district, argued railroad law in court and was the Rock Island RR’s house attorney. Stephen Ambrose wrote of Lincoln as the shaper of 19th transportation law. He also patented a solution for floating stranded barges. Attorney Lincoln was experienced, more so than Mr. O.
Posted by: Bill | August 21, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
For those who haven’t recognized how out of touch Obama can be, please google “Grim proving ground for Obama’s housing policy.” Thanks for your attention.
Here’s an excerpt:
“Eleven of Rezmar’s buildings were located in the district represented by Obama, containing 258 apartments. The building without heat in January 1997, the month Obama entered the state Senate, was in his district. So was Jones’s building with rats in the walls and Frizzell’s building that lacked insulation. And a redistricting after the 2000 Census added another 350 Rezmar apartments to the area represented by Obama.
But Obama has contended that he knew nothing about any problems in Rezmar’s buildings.
After Rezko’s assistance in Obama’s home purchase became a campaign issue, at a time when the developer was awaiting trial in an unrelated bribery case, Obama told the Chicago Sun-Times that the deterioration of Rezmar’s buildings never came to his attention. He said he would have distanced himself from Rezko if he had known.”
Posted by: Julian | August 21, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
pls do my eyes decieve me or did you really say charity—maybe it would be better to have 7 homes—and be known as exxon john—drill drill
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Who’s desperate?? Neither candidate is desperate, yet, but camp Obama is running scared. The Saddle Brook episode and recent polls all expose huge weaknesses in Obama. Any objective observer knows something is wrong – Obama has spent more money in last sixty days than McCain has spent in the entire campaign to date, the economy (according to the liberal press) is in the tank and the war is still unpopular – and all this should be to Obama’s advantabe – and yet McCain is gaining in the polls.
So what does team Obama do? They whine and cry about how they are being smeared by McCain and the Republicans – ala the Obama Nation (Abomination – I just got the smear in the book’s name – how slow am I?) – while they proceed to smear McCain by claiming he must’ve cheated to have made Obama look so small at the Saddle Brook forum. Now team Obama wants us to know that Cindy McCain is a wealthy ‘beer’ heiress. Guess what, we already know and don’t care. I think I might be more concerned it John McCain had a quick answer to the question of how many houses he and/or Cindy own. That he doesn’t know only says to me that he focuses of more important matters – such as serving the people.
Posted by: PMG | August 21, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
“The old democratic playbook is back in play with one of its’ oldest additions, class warfare.”
Uhmmmm, not to put a fine point to it but it were the Republicans who were engaging in ‘class warfare’ by calling Obama an ‘elitist’ and a ‘celebrity’ who eats arugula and who prefers healthy food.
And you obviously haven’t noticed that McCain is suddenly spotted in a lot of supermarkets lately. Haven’t you? Oh, McCain is soooooo aware of the predicament ordinary people face. They have to do their own groceries …
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 21, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
HEY!
John McCain worked hard for all that money!
You think it’s easy to leave your first wife after she suffers a terrible accident so you can marry a rich sugar mama who got rich from daddy’s beer distributorship?
THAT’S HARD WORK!
Posted by: don't make me laugh | August 21, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
pmg
that was the funniest posts yet—-are you talking about mccain the nafta man who thinks we are living in an era of prosperity—–yes he stated that when he was in canada–no bs here
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
OMG, Obama played the wrong hand on this one.
Barack “57 states” Obama is going down when the Rezko ad hits. OMG, what fools the Obama supporters/campaigners are. What were they thinking?
This will bring Obama down.
Rev. Wright turned off a large percentage of the voters, and now when Rezko, the federally indicted Chicago mobster friend and business partner of Obama comes to light, more will peel away.
Why on earth would Obama go down that slimy path is beyond me. His past is so riddled with crime and people of hate, he has nowhere to hide.
Attack McCain for his wives investments in property, but explain away why you took money from a mobster to pay for YOUR home.
OMG, the shoe is dropping. The circus gets better and better.
Posted by: the other shoe is dropping | August 21, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
I wonder how many senators and congressman got rich from congressional earmarks? Obama recorded $97M last year.
Posted by: al4mcattack | August 21, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Rodney, don’t play fool. the operative word is “link” not charity.
do you really, really think that your man would give away almost 100k when he deals with a corrupt sugar daddy that helped him buy his mansion, get Mich-ele a job paying 200k+/-, donates to his campaigns left and right and in return, for starters, your man helps him secure millions from the city for his RRZMAR corp. projects which are later condemned uninhabitable. Screw the residences of those dwellings, there are just semi-illiterate poor American schumcks
Posted by: pls go away | August 21, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
When is it ever illegal to own more than one property in America?
Posted by: al4mcattack | August 21, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Wow…I knew McBush was senile when he claimed that the economy was fine, 5 million is rich, and that he has a brain, but now this…I mean, seriously, what American doesn’t know how many houses they have?
McShame, you are an absolute joke of a candidate. You should be ashamed of yourself for cheating on a woman with a girl 17 years younger than you. You should be ashamed of your penny loafers that cost $520. You should be ashamed of the lies you brought to the Saddleback Forum.
NOBODY WANTS YOU McBUSH…WE ARE TIRED OF YOUR WAYS!!!
I am a Clinton supporter turned Obama supporter!!!!!!!!!
DEMOCRATS 2008!!!!
Posted by: Jon | August 21, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
here’s also a world of difference between
being legitimate and illegitimate.
McCain is the former, Obama the latter.
Posted by: maverick muse | August 21, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
pls
lets get bach to exxon john the nafta man —-i love the prosperity statement—oh i forgot that he was in columbia working on another nafta type deal—–and by the way i purchased a piece of land with no problems and later learned that the man was a crook and left the country—so what is your point–sounds kind of petty and lame.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
here’s also a world of difference between
being legitimate and illegitimate.
McCain is the former, Obama the latter.
——————————————
In addition to your addition, here is a difference between legitimate and illegitmate:
America’s is the former, and yours is the latter.
McShame is a rich scumbag who just wants more oil money. He is bloodthirsty, and you need to realize that before it is too late.
Posted by: John | August 21, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Quote:
HEY!
John McCain worked hard for all that money!
You think it’s easy to leave your first wife after she suffers a terrible accident so you can marry a rich sugar mama who got rich from daddy’s beer distributorship?
THAT’S HARD WORK!
End Quote:
But didn’t you think it was great for John Kerry and little miss ketchup queen? I have met John and Cindy and while smut mongers may wish to turn their relationship into trash like this comment, they are a very loving family that sticks together.
Maybe you would rather poke this fun at John Edwards.
Maybe it would have been better if John had stayed out of pity for his ex wife and had a horrible relationship instead of finding love, maybe he should have said no I wont let myself fall in love with you because you are wealthy and I want to be a Democrat and hate you for it.
Get a grip, maybe you are just jealous because you didn’t marry a rich girl. Maybe you are still looking for a super human with no bad times ever that can somehow relate to your bad times and hand you enough to be their equal. That’s what Barrack says he can and will do but do you think it’s real or a fantasy, Bill ran on the same ticket, did he help you out of the whole or just increase the check that has kept you there?
When is a persons wealth a factor in their worth? When it is Barrack Obama and his wealth has bought him a ticket to the Democratic Convention, helped him escape the real world, and rub hands with rich lawyers to the extent they hand over wallets full of money. In his case his wealth and the money he can raise is the only reason he is in the running and that sums up his worth too. Barrack is about paying back his rich friends, padding union interest and handing insurance companies the money you earned to pay for Government run health care.
Again, the money is not the issue as poor folks can to afford to take time off from work and run for office, show me one politician without money since those days 200 years ago. I’m waiting, nope Barracks rich, Nope Bill and Hilly got theirs through deals like Whitewater, are you still thinking about it?
The rich are the ones who build and expand businesses, their job of getting richer means they have to keep expanding and building, and folks that creates jobs. Stop being jealous and looking to be an equal, go out and create your own success story as I am creating mine as we speak.
Andy Zeus Anderson
Posted by: Andy Zeus Anderson | August 21, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Rodney,
Playing at denial must really, really come easy to you. Your prevaricating indicates you’re a waste of dialogue time.
Posted by: pls go away | August 21, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
How much is rich? McCain’s answer is correct. “Rich” is when you can live off of your assetts without having to work for a living. Affluent is when you have a high income and can live a nice lifestyle but are not yet rich enough to live off your wealth.
Ask any investment advisor and they will tell you you are rich at about 5 million net worth. 1 – 3 million sounds like a lot, and it is a lot of money, but you can’t retire off 3 million and live a comfortable middle class life in most American cities unless you get really lucky with your investments. Besides, it is an irrelevant question. We want a leader who will help make us all rich, how rich they are, (or how many homes they have), is irrelevant as long as they have been successful in the past.
Lastly, Obama and his supporters are still confused about the definition of ELITE and ELITIST. Clinton, Obama and McCain are all ELITE. They are all wealthy and powerful. But that is not the same thing as being elitist.
Posted by: michaelp0429 | August 21, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
hey andy
THROW YOUR WIFE AND CHILDREN UNDER THE BUSS AND MARRY A RICH DRUGGIE—-mccain says it is the american way
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Lets get back to Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Anenberg papers,and his “LIE” about his Abortion Vote, not to mention playing the race card whenever it suits him.
Posted by: Jim | August 21, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Obama!!! You must attack McCain very hard. He is destroying you with all bogus and silly ads.This is your time. Bring the subject of “Keating five”. He will find no place to hide.
Posted by: Skdas | August 21, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
pls
you just cannot deal with the truth about exxon john the nafta man
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
At least Senator McCain knows how many states there are.
Posted by: Doc | August 21, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
i still want to know —since we have an embargo against cuba–HOW DOES THE MCCAINS GET AWAY WITH DISTRIBUTING BOOSE THERE—ARE THEY THE PRIVILAGED.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
PLS
STILL FLAPPING ABOUT A LITTLE PIECE OF GROUND—kind of shallow isnt it.lets talk about mccain millions
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Michael-
If you do not think most middle class Americans can retire with 3 million, then you are completely drinking the kool-aid.
3 million dollars?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Who makes that — seriously?
McCain not remembering how many homes he has and his 520 shoes are pretty elitist in the sense that it is an indirect braggart sort of statement. The same thing with saying 5 million a year is rich — that is a braggart statement and it is definitely ELITIST. So maybe it is you that has ELITE and ELITIST mixed up.
When I think of ELITE, I think of Michigan and Ohio State football, or North Carolina Basketball…when I think ELITIST, I think John McBush.
Posted by: Carl | August 21, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
What are we saying here, people? Senator and Mrs. McCain bought those homes. Did they get sweet heart VIP loans like Dodd? If there is a real story, then let’ expose it, but to tell people who are wealthy that they are not qualified is the run up to the French Revolution.
While we’re on the subject of homes, how DID the 0bamas buy that mansion in Chicago? Can you say Rezco the felon?
Posted by: beebop | August 21, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Obama went to the dirtiest CHICAGO political ‘fixer’ who was under federal investigation at the time for buying influence, (it was in all the Illinois papers) and asked him for help buying his house. Several hundred thousand dollars in personal gain for Obama later he has the audacity to attack a man who has never done anything to line his own pockets (besides getting lucky enough to marry wealthy).
Posted by: michaelp0429 | August 21, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
What about Obama ‘s criminal friend Tony Rezko and the million he helped OBAMA get in the land deal? What about the $ 4 million plus Obama hauled in 2007.. He does not have the moral authority to go after McCain. Obama should COntinue your flip flopping galore.. & start revelaing the truth on the fact that he attended the church every sunday. None of them seem to be in line with his speeches..
Posted by: Ggoodman | August 21, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
doc
he just dont know which one he is in.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
you just cannot deal with the truth about exxon john the nafta man-
look, rodney, the economics of the future is further globalization. anti-NAFTA people have littel grasp on the reality of world markets. There will be more and more expansive trade treaties…the object will be a “one” currency zone in North and South Am.
As for Exxon, I’d like to see obama and Mich-ele’s stock porfolio…
Posted by: pls go away | August 21, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
John McCain is a criminal and should revoke his interest in the presidency.
Posted by: Scott | August 21, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
I am a Dem. And the reason he did that is because Obama is unable to attack McCain unscripted on real issues that we Americans are facing. Come on Obama. Wake up! Talk about the Economy, Healthcare, the war, etc. put down the papers. Whoa commmercials!!! Big deal! How about you look at him in front of his face on live TV and say you know more on every single issue and do it and explain it to the American public in complete details. Obama is such a loser. If the house thing is the best attack he has we are in big trouble!
Posted by: yeah yeah | August 21, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I agree with you, Scott. McCain is a wealthy elitist and needs to be defeated for the sanctity of this nation.
Posted by: Mike | August 21, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
s goodman
how about the people that attended churches with perverts for minister—-are we all to blame.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
I have been a republican for almost 45 years, but I will not vote for John McCain. He is evil, bloodthirsty, and is out of touch not only with his faith and reality, but with the American people.
This republican woman is for Obama.
Posted by: Martha | August 21, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
to deb,
Are you one of those people willing to sign up after McCain takes us into another one or more. Or are you like all the repubs who stood up on campus at a rally saying the war in Iraq was justified. When asked if they would sign up to serve, they all put their arms down. I suspect you would be one of the latter. Perhaps you’d want to take the place of one of my grandchildren when he institutes the draft….the man has noting but war on his mind.
Posted by: aw | August 21, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
pls
i deal with the truth—–
AND WHERE IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK OUR JOBS HAVE GONE–THANK THE NAFTA PEOPLE–SUCH AS NAFTA JOHN
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
I agree with Rodney. It is because of McCain that we have lost so many jobs. Look at that DHL plant in Ohio — 10,000 jobs gone because of McCain.
Posted by: Mark | August 21, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Rodney,Rodney,
You must surely be mistaken about the McCains and booze. That couldn’t possibly be true for he and Cindy are Southern Baptists and part of the SBC beliefis that it is sinful to partake
or sale alcoholic products!!!!
Posted by: aw | August 21, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
“pmg
that was the funniest posts yet—-are you talking about mccain the nafta man who thinks we are living in an era of prosperity—–yes he stated that when he was in canada–no bs here”
Rodney,
I don’t know how old you are but I’m in my sixth decade. In my short time on this earth I have seen times that were better and times that were significantly worse than they are now. Prosperity is like the weather. It’s different everywhere. Just because it’s raining where you’re at doesn’t mean it’s raining everywhere. While the rust belt continues to rust, the farmers are seeing a boon. So too are the Carolinas and Georgia. So too are millions who are working as a direct result of NAFTA.
From the hi-tech bust to 9/11 and two wars, to the mortgage and banking crisis, to the oil and gas price surge, we’ve been through and are going through a lot. But through it all, these are still prosperous times for most people, just not everybody. But that’s no different than it’s ever been. Obama made $4 million last year. How much did you make? Don’t answer that because it doesn’t really matter. What matters is not what Obama or McCain made but rather what experience they have. Obama doesn’t have the experience to be president and we can’t afford to hire a guy who has got to learn everything on the job.
Posted by: PMG | August 21, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Is that the best that Barry O has got?
If this is all that Mr. arugula, I bot my house with help from a convicted felon, has got – this contest is OVER.
BarryO should just fold up the tent and concede – he’s done.
Posted by: Fred | August 21, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
AW
i split a rib on that one—-but they really do—mccain stated that if that is a problem they will stop—-OOPS THEY GOT CAUGHT.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
That was a stupid question to begin with. Obama’s attack mode has awaken the sleeping beast now. He should have let it go. He has turned the bus over and all the people under will be brought out from under it to do him in. Why didn’t he stick to issues? I have already seen previews of 2 counter attack ads in response to his stupid taunts, and they are hard hitting. If he wants to be leader of the Free World he better start acting like one. If he is going to attack McCain, at least make it about something people care about.
Posted by: J.S. | August 21, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Hey PMG
I am just as old as you are, and have voted republican for 45 years, but I will not vote for John McCain.
1) He is bloodthirsty and out of touch with America.
2) Military leaders do not make good presidents.
3) Abe Lincoln, FDR, JFK, and Bill Clinton had little experience before holding the presidency and they did just fine.
Your arguments are weak, unfortunately. The republican party has just let me down the past 8 years, and I have to vote a different direction this time.
This old republican lady is for Obama.
Posted by: Martha | August 21, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Obama begin EVERY speech until the election asking,
“Raise your hand if you know how many houses you own?”
FIST BUMPS all around
is it Nov 4th …YET?
Posted by: mark | August 21, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
The country is in a mental recession. Yes, times are tough, but the term recession has a definition, it is 2 or more consecutive quarters of negative GDP. The US even in these tough times has had an expanding GDP.
I agree with many of the other posters, one should not be upset about how many houses a person owns, as long as they are purchased legally. On the other hand, it is boneheaded of McCain to not know how many houses he owns.
Also Obama should stop saying that McCain thinks you need 5 million to be considered wealthy, because it was an obvious joke to anyone who has seen the film.
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
IMAGINE
Grampy snug for next 4 years in one of his minimum of four houses…none of them WHITE
Posted by: mark | August 21, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Obama is so inexperienced and I don’t really know where he stands on the issues.
With John McCain, he is extremely eperienced and has a long track record, so I know exactly where he stands:
1. More war
2. More tax cuts for the rich
3. More big profits for big oil
Vote McCain!
Posted by: John S. | August 21, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
PMG
I DONT CARE HOW OLD YOU ARE BUT THE TEC BUBBLE BUSTED A LONG TIME AGO—–AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE RESULTS OF NAFTA I SUGGEST YOU TRAVEL THE COUNTRY AND START WITH THE COAL REGION IN PA WHERE THOUSANDS OF JOBS WERE LOST BECAUSE OF NAFTA–I THINK YOU NEED TO JOIN THE REAL WORLD.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Martha, I think it is unfair to generalize and say people involved in the military do not make good Presidents.
You mentioned JFK and Bill Clinton, as great Presidents who did just fine without military experience, but I believe you are overlooking the Bay of Pigs fiasco and that Bill Clinton did a below average job in protecting us from the very real threats of Islamic terrorism.
I think a better line would be you do not need to have military experience to be a great President. For example Ronald Regan or FDR, depending on which side of the isle you stand.
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Obama again the fool is the one who bought his multi million dollar mansion using tax payers money thru Rezko. McCain is a war hero that earned his rights own property.
Posted by: power wolf | August 21, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Griff
again you show how stupid Obama trolls are. John F Kennedy was a veteran. And his family forced him to join the military only for one reason. That reason was for political gain
Posted by: power wolf | August 21, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Jake, I hate telling you this but I couldn’t care less how many homes Cindy McCain owns. For that matter, I’m only a little concerned with the fact that the Obamas bought a manion below market price from a convicted felon.
What I’m worried about is the price of a gallon of gas & the price of natural gas.
Sen. Obama is clueless on that, which is why I’m voting for Sen. McCain.
Posted by: Gary Gross | August 21, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
PMG,
I’ve got you beat at age and I think you’re wrong about experience. McCain lost 5 planes, sat in confinement for years, had one job from father-in-law,
dumped his overweight, crippled wife on return,and the only real good business deal I see he effected was getting Cindy to cover his wifes’s medical for life. He didn’t even know you should not apply for a marriage license until divorce is finalized. The EXPERIENCED MEN have taken us to a war thru lies,
seen our economy decline when some steps could have been taken to monitor the securities people and bring down oil prices by requiring more than 20% paid for futures, and yes, maybe even fixed some highways and bridges instead of borowing and sending our treasures to the middle east. Give me less experince this time…please.
Posted by: aw | August 21, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
PMG
YOU ARE AS OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY AS YOUR SO CALLED HERO.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Hey Rodney…You call McCain an idiot, but you did not spell the name of the country correctly, it is Colombia, not Columbia. Columbia is a University. Colombia, the country, is our democratic allied in South America, who wants to be able to trade freely with America.
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
aw nafta and the chinese trade agreements along with opec and big oil are bankrupting our country—-AND SOMEONE BETTER STOP IT—AND I CAN ARRURE ANYONE THAT NAFTA JOHN IS NOT THAT MAN.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
SORRY I FORGOT THE BUSH MCBUSH WARS
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
McCaint has to be the most IMMODEST veteran in the history of American veterans. Yes or no?
It IS NOT heroic to seek to PANDER and exploit veteran status for cheap political or other lesser ends.
Such a pandering behavior of a ‘veteran’ diminishes any military stature one ever achieved.
Notice that while running for the Presidency, Al Gore and John Kerry did not ceaselessly exploit their military service, and beat Americans over the head with the fact of their combat service in Vietnam!
McCaint is therefore prostituting his service for one of two reasons:
1. McCaint is feeling guilty that his record is less than stellar. After all, McCaint has sealed his military record. Why?
It is obvious that McCaint is trying to have it both way: Miss not opportunity to broadcast one part of his military record to anyone who will listen to and laud him; but keep the other part of his military record a closely guarded secret from the American people.
2. Senility is setting in with McCaint.
And so McCaint is doing what many old people often do to get extra attention: Whine about how much they deserve to be ‘waited on’ because of their prior years of service.
Posted by: Patriot | August 21, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
McCain is known in Washington for his temper. I don’t understand why the Dems have not put more emphasis on that. The last thing this country needs is a pro-military hothead with his finger on the trigger. I don’t care what kind of greens Obama ikes to eat or if he makes money as an author. If he make us safer with positive diplomatic relations with the rest of the world and hopefully can make a dent in fixing this mess the Bush administration (that McSame is a part of) has gotten us into then I’m all for it!
Posted by: Terri | August 21, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Power Wolf…I am not an Obama troll. I was quoting Martha, who mentioned JFK was not a veteran. Thank you for bringing it my attention that he was a veteran.
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Ignorance and stupidity reign….
Clinton had a student deferment from the the military during the Vietnam War……..
JFK was a war hero(NAVY) of WW2…wrote a pretty famous book…..Profiles in Courage…..
Gosh….
Posted by: CRAMOS | August 21, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
HEY
GRIFF I STAND CORRECTED —BUT DO YOU REALLY THEINK WE HAVE MORE JOBS TO SEND OUT OF OUR COUNTRY–I WOULD THINK NOT
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
cramos
would you rather an old senile man make those decisions for you—THAT IS SAD
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
It seems like a lot of liberal on this site oppose NAFTA, but to remind you Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law.
Also what problems do you have with free trade? Free trade is not the reason jobs are being shipped overseas, it is the taxes imposed by the government that makes it difficult to business in the United States.
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
I guess Obama is showcasing his mean-spirited jabs at McCain. Obama is 47 and McCain is 71. Since Obama lives in a 2+ million dollar home already, he has 24 years to get his 7 homes too.
I think it is the green eyed monster in Obama that is talking.
Shame on you, Obama. You have done absolutely nothing to deserve a 2 million dollar home. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Be careful where that stone will land.
Posted by: alee21 | August 21, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
GRIFF
dont you think that super low wages have something to do with it –along with no regard for the enviroment—big business makes millions more and we lose jobs and get crap out of it.
only an idiot would support nafta—-what we need is equal trade—-the trade deficit will destroy us.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Rodney…Not a problem I know it was an honest mistake and this is just a blog, so grammar is not a big deal.
No I do not think we can afford to ship jobs overseas, that is why I think we should lower the taxes on these companies. Whether we like it or not companies are free to do business wherever they want. The purpose of a company is not to act in the best interest of the American citizen, it is to act in the best interest of the stockholder.
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Barry O’bama, I bought my house with the assistance of a felon and oh by the way, my wife magically received a 200K raise when he was elected to the Senate. O’b is a joke. By the way, anyone notice Barry is suddenly talking “folksy”? Must have spent his time on the private beach in Hawaii watching videos on how to pretend your not an elitist, America hating snob.
Posted by: jwbeuk | August 21, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Rodney…Low wages and no regard for the environment are two reasons why companies ship jobs overseas, but no matter who the US President is they will not be able to control the standards of business in foreign countries.
Drilling would help the trade deficit.
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
griff
i live in an area where garment and shoe industry was king—–thousands of jobs lost due to nafta—–any new jobs created here will simply go out of our country—-we must pass laws demanding fair and equal trade–willy signed the nafta agreement and walmart is one if not the biggest benafactor–and hillary was associated with walmart—and mccain is in favor of nafta—he will learn a lesson here.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Grif,
I will agree with you Clinton signed the nafta. Even his wife didn’t really agree.
However the jobs did go overseas, the problem is there is not a sufficient import fee placed on these companies when they bring the merchdise back into the states. Presently when China starts producing cars in Mexico, there is no import tariff back into the US.
And guess who has had control of our Congress most of the decade?
Posted by: aw | August 21, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Obama criticized McCain for the Paris Hilton add by saying, is that the best you got? Is this the best Obama has, McCain not being sure of how many homes he owns?
Obama should spend more time figuring out what he wants to tell the American people his view on abortion is.
By the way I am a pro-life conservative. I just am not as extreme as Obama and am against late term abortion and partial birth abortion. Having an opinion on abortion is not above my pay grade.
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
griff
drilling will make billions more for big oil—-we will get no benifit as oil is sold on the world market and we can buy it back at world prices—-we import 70 % of what we use and the 10 % we would produce will change nothing—-alternate fuels are the answer–and may put an end to the oil monopoly which holds us hostage.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
griff—i agree with obama on abortion as people must be responsible for themselver and the beyond his pay grade you should surely understabnd–i thing he is saying you will answer to a higher source–we cannot have someone ruling our lives and must be responsible for ourselves—–i am not for abortion but feel that is not for me to decide about others.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Aw…you raise a good point with the foreign car manufacturers importing from Mexico. I am not very well versed in NAFTA, as I am from an area of the country that does not seem to be affected as much as your area has been.
Just personally I believe the best way to keep American jobs here is make it so that factories can be profitable in the United States.
To me the government has not shown to be responsible with the American tax payer dollar, thus I would rather keep that money in the hands of citizens.
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Here’s the news for you idiots. A man who acts like he’s better than everyone one earth but who makes a deal with a crook to get a mansion is NOT going to turn Americans against an ordinary guy lucky or smart enough to get rich and get property. Democrats simply do not understand that elitism is not the same thing as economic success. But now Obamaa has asked for this fight and now he will get it. Rezko, Rezko, Rezko, and Bill Ayers and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and the University of Illinois library cover up, and Rezko, Rezko, Rezko. I will be enjoying it. And oh, as to someone who thinks this glee is actuallyt REPUBLICAN desperation. Are you kidding? Have you been watching the polls and your man? Apparently not.
Posted by: Jon Burack | August 21, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Drilling in America will help bring down the price of oil. Oil is priced on the world market you are correct, but if we can increase the supply of oil it will certainly help bring down the price. Also the areas that will be drilled will be leased to the oil companies by the US government, which will bring in additional revenue. Also drilling for oil here will help reduce our dependency on foreign oil, which we receive from our enemies. I am not only for drilling, I am for using every means possible to help end our dependence on energy. If these alternative energy supplies can come online before we extract the oil from the ocean it will not bother me at all.
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Rodney…
The Government pockets bewtween 13% and 14% of Oil revenues while the Companies pocket 8%…..
What this means is that you can be sure that the Government will always make 75% more in profits than the Oil Companies…. how fair is that…. there is no other business in America with a profit model and Tax split even close to this…
That doesn’t even touch the biggest reason that we should be drilling and that is we can keep the $700B that Americans send over seas (to our enemies for the most part) for energy right here at home and create jobs, get more tax revenues, etc. etc.
Posted by: poyman | August 21, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
griff
we cannot compete with people working for 2.00 per hour and with no laws regarding the enviroment—we have been sold out to big business—-and i feel that so has mccain—i am not sure about obama—but feel he may be our only chance.
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
There are many rich Americans in America. Is that a problem with Comrade Obama now?
Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Rodney…I am also pro-choice, I may have typed in pro-life by accident. I agree the government should try its best to stay out of its citizens way, but late term and especially partial birth abortion to me are a bit of a different story.
I also know I am taking Barak a bit out of context, with the above my pay grade answer. I do believe he is referring to God, but I just think it was a poor answer on his part, as God will not be advising him on any issues of the Presidency. We need a leader who will answer tough questions, not one who will hide behind God.
I do not mean to suggest McCain is always able to answer questions completely and I have to admit as a supporter I was nervous of him going up against Barak, which is why I was so surprised how poorly Barak did and how great McCain did at Saddleback
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
griff the only way we can decrease our dependancy is with alternate fuels and get back to competitive pricing—-AND OF COURSE PUT AN END TO IMPORTS–ANYONE CAN MAKE BIO DIESEL-but watch how much power the oil companies have as the government will require some kind of additive that the everyday man cannot produce–it is all to do with the collection of taxes—-you can produce bio diesel for about 1.00 per gallon
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
So far, most of the anti McCain posts I see are a direct result of the poster being jealous of McCain’s wealth. What is wrong with you people? That is so petty and pathetic!
I am/was a big Hillary supporter despite her millions. Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t we all want to make as much money as possible?
This type of attack is so bad for the Democratic party. It makes us look like a bunch of envious failures.
I don’t hate rich people. I am not jealous of rich people. I want to be rich. It doesn’t make me evil.
Attack McCain where it counts, on his policy.
Posted by: Leslieswartz | August 21, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Why is Obama so concerned by who is wealthy and the definition of wealthy? Because he wants to redistribute the wealth of the country. That is the same thing Cuba did and any socialist country. Don’t be fooled by this guy. Fools are envious of the wealth of others. And, smart people are inspired by the wealth of others.
Posted by: Mokie | August 21, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Methinks BHO is grasping at straws! He sounds so unpresidential and childish! Same ole Washington politics!
Posted by: Beckie | August 21, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
No we can compete with 2.00 workers you are correct, but America does have the most skilled work force in the world that is our one advantage.
As I said before I am not well versed in NAFTA. Just looking at domestic business however, taxes in certain states one being California, make it very impractical to do business there.
The world is constantly changing, us as Americans need to adapt to this changing economy.
It is also not bad for companies to turn a profit. One poster mentioned the taxes on the oil companies saying oil companies take home 8 cents on a dollar compared to other companies such as Microsoft who take home 24 cents the dollar. That does not seam fair to me and why we would discuss taxing big oil more makes no sense. If we tax oil companies more the result will be an increase at the pump. These companies will not sit back and realize a major cut in profit, you will pay the tax.
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
It is amazing that Obama would zero in on how many homes McCain owns.
The bigger question is “How many wooden boxes does Obama’s half-brother George Hussein Onyango Obama own?”
We’ve just learned that Obama’s half-brother lives in a wooden box just outside Nairobi, Kenya. He claims to live on less than a dollar a month.
One would think that one so concerned about housing would be concerned about the “housing problem” of his own blood kin. One would think that someone who has made millions from book sales would stoop to help out his own disadvantaged relative.
How many half-brothers and half-sisters does Obama have that are living in squalor?
Obama – Poverty we Can Believe In.
Posted by: The Moving Finger | August 21, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
McC is not perfect; BHO is not perfect. The GOP does not have all the answers; the Dems do not have all the answers. All informed voters can do is pick the candidate who best reflects their view of where America should go into the future. Under this analysis, most Dems want a faster road to Socialism and the GOP will defend a mixed economy. I’m afraid that most Americans are so addicted to the government welfare state that the Dems will ultimately prevail.
Posted by: Felix 335 | August 21, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
griff
i have an advantage —as i have been plant manager for a couple companies in my lifetime –and have seen the devistation brought on by nafta—-but too many of our polititions have sold us out to big business such as the superstores who dictate price they will pay or will simply buy overseas—and that is something we cannot compete with—no one wants to go back 100 years–i made more money 40 years ago than a great deal earn today,and i just lived a little better/
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Rodney…I agree competition will bring us to the lowest prices possible. Alternate fuels will help this country thrive in the future, but when these alternate fuels will be practical for everyday Americans to use is unknown. It has been a 30 year process that both Republicans and Democrats have neglected for too long.
Drilling is an answer that will help ease the pain.
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
griff
are you aware how simple it is to make bio diesel—-we could make large strides almost immediately—-there is an old pot smoking geser doing it for about 30 years in the midwest—-ever hear of WILLY NELSON—-and man has he been harassed by the government
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
It is definitely seams like a difficult situation, but as I mentioned you are more aware of NAFTA and its consequences. I will have to do some more research and further develop an opinion.
Anyways I have to go, but it was nice having a civil political conversation, especially how I started it off with a jerk comment. Regardless of our political differences, Good luck See ya
Drill Here Drill Now Save Money
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
We cannot drill our way to energy independence and we cannot tax and spend our way to economic nirvanah.
Who is out of touch? McCain did not cast aspesions on working men and women by tagging them as “clinging to god and guns.” McCain is solidly in the mainstream. How many working Americans worry about the price of arugula?
The mounting evidence is Obama has done nothing significant in life. The South side organization he ran was declared a failure in an authorative report. He’s simply not qualified.
Posted by: Addicus | August 21, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
we are in a 70% dependancy trap and must use all the resources possible rto get out of it—i own a business and have made strides with wind gereration and am at present installing solar pannels—we are looking at a possible 60 % price increase for electric and that would be devastating—i wont let them destroy my family—
Posted by: rodney | August 21, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
John McCain has betrayed virtually everything he used to believe in. He has flip-flopped on so many issues including taxes, off-shore drilling, immigration reform, abortion, the Confederate flag, torture and numerous others. John McCain adopts positions that are calculated to get votes–he is NOT putting America first.
Posted by: Carpathia | August 21, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Rodney…. You need to move to Europe man… Capitalism, and freedom for people to rise to their own level of success doesn’t mesh well with the socialists… I’m thinking that Swedon, Germany or France is where you need to be…. You can vote for the far left radical over there…
Posted by: poyman | August 21, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Obama will lose this debate. McCain I’m sure didn’t need to help of a convicted felon nor amazingly favorable rates from Countrywide to buy his houses.
How nice, now we are going to get to hear about Obama and his good buddy Tony Rezko.
The friend the MSM don’t want to talk about.
Posted by: Linda | August 21, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Nothing senile or otherwise inappropriate about McCain’s answer to an off-the-wall question. Rather than take a stab at it (not knowing the legal details of real estate ownership by his wife, personally or through trusts or corporations) what should he have done other than to say it would have to be researched and we’ll get back to you when we have an accurate number. As for houses he himself owns, it turns out the answer is zero.
Now someone may make political hay of this but to assign it any serious weight is intellectually bankrupt. It’s on a par with “we might be in Iraq for a hundred years.” Who knows, we might (and no matter who is President). Lord knows…look how long we’ve been in Germany and Korea.
Posted by: Cincinnati Rick | August 21, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Rodney and Carpathia,
Are you guys like married or something?
We have real energy needs today… I think that it’s great you are pursuing solar pannels and windmills… I am sure that will help…. But me and 75% of my compadres understand that our economy is based on the combustion engine which needs gas and oil to operate… we are sitting on more gas and oil than any other country on earth, other countries are starting to drill off of our coasts, we are sending $700B a year to countries who don’t like it so that we can support your far left desires…. The drill bits and the nukes are coming to america…. it will happen, it’s just a matter of time and if necessary we’ll take the Dems majorities out of the house and Senate in order to get there…. But this country runs on the will of the people and the majority…. not the wackos and the minority. Sorry.
Posted by: poyman | August 21, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
How can McCain relate to me and my struggle to afford to eventually buy a house when the man has so many homes he can’t keep straight how many he even has?
Dude can’t fix the economy when he doesn’t think it’s broken.
Posted by: Benj | August 21, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
If McCain wants to peddle the Rezko bs no doubt he’ll have no objection to Obama opening up the Keating can of worms. Get real, this is a guy who DOESN’T KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES HE OWNS and he’s calling Obama an elitist. Now I’ll just stop whining because I’m imagining it all.
Posted by: John | August 21, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Obama’s entire premise is based on class warfare! What do the democrats have against success? Might start asking Mr. Obama if he protected infanticide while he was in the Illinois Senate to get him out of McCain’s backyard!! Might also ask him how much he received from Tony Rezko for his seven figure dollar home before Tony fell on hard times!!
Posted by: jwatl | August 21, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Has Obama finally found a topic he can understand?
Posted by: donbl | August 21, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Dumb and already backfiring on Obama.
Posted by: Brian | August 21, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
A taxpayer voting for Barach Obomination is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.
Personally, I have no problem with people being successful. But an Obama presidency would result in a grotesquely higher tax bill and the economic deterioration that tax hikes always bring.
So those of us who own several houses will do well no matter who is president. As for the rest of you, you’d better hope McCain wins. If he doesn’t Barry will tax the bloody hell out of you and make you think you like it!
Posted by: StanfordMBA | August 21, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
This is Barack’s “new kind of politics”?
Posted by: David123456 | August 21, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
The American people already know about “Keating Five”, but don’t know anything about Rezko. You wanna bring it, Obama? Bring it!
Posted by: David123456 | August 21, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Obama shouldn’t put ads out there that refer to McCain’s answer about how many houses he has. All that ad does is bring back our thoughts about how Obama got his one house and a portion of the lot next door.
The Obamas bought the house in June 2005 for $1.65 million–some $300,000 less than the asking price–and secured a $1.32 million mortgage from Northern Trust.
Rezko’s wife, Rita, bought the adjoining lot the same day, paying the full $625,000 asking price with the help of a $500,000 mortgage from Mutual Bank of Harvey. By the way, Rita Rezko’s annual salary was $37,000 when she obtained the $500,000 mortgage.
As I said, Obama shouldn’t be putting out any ads about McCain’s home ownership or ANYONE’S home ownership.
Posted by: Michael | August 21, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
I voted last two times straight Democratic ticket. They lost me this time by selecting the worst possible candidate for president of this country. The guy has no experience, very arrogant, corrupt and whants “Change” and all he Changes is his positions everyday. He stole the nomination by manipulating caucuses where only 4% of people vote.
Posted by: Lisa | August 21, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
I voted last two times straight Democratic ticket. They lost me this time by selecting the worst possible candidate for president of this country. The guy has no experience, very arrogant, corrupt and whants “Change” and all he Changes is his positions everyday. He stole the nomination by manipulating caucuses where only 4% of people vote.
Posted by: Lisa34 | August 21, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Two quick points. One this is not a communist country so if McCain can afford 7 houses or 20 houses more power too him. Not sure how a man lives in more then one house at a time but it’s his money to waste. I personally would be renting every property I did not live in out but hey that is just me. They I could claim I have 1 house and 7 rental properties. But again this is America he can own how ever many he can afford. But two mistakes one with such great wealth attacking Obama as an elitist was bad strategy since those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Two when you are 72 years old you cannot afford to say things like I do not know how many houses I have when you running for Pres. It gives the impression of a senior moment.
And as for the McSame line if you vote with Bush 95 percent of the time I think it is a fair argument to say you offering the same policies as Bush. But if that is not good enough let me bring up one parallel that will get more popular as this election goes on. Bush will forever talk about 9/11 McCain and his camp will forever talk about his POW status. If he is elected expect him to ride that argument till the cows come home. See the similarities, more to come tune in next week when we talk about the McSame old Economic policies.
Posted by: TJustSaying | August 21, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
How many houses does John McCain own?
ZERO.
His wife, however, owns 7 to 8 properties that are a mix of investments, condos for adult children that are under her name and an elderly aunt. All of them were paid for by legitimate money earned over her lifetime and the lifetime of her father.
John made about 400K last year.
How about Obama? Well he owns one home, purchased with the help of a convicted felon and a special “senator” loan. The Obama’s reported 7 million in income last year.
Now let’s compare:
Obamas- Senator & hospital exec earn 7 million vs. McCain earns 400K (minus Cindy’s income from multiple corporations and investments from 2 lifetimes). Gee? Where are the Obama’s getting all that cash from on such thin resumes, poor family roots and less than have the work history? Community organizers and college professors seem to do better than most oil execs, huh?
The McCain’s name is on several homes that were legitimately purchased, Obama’s have 1 home that is tied to a felon and questionable loans.
And wait… who was asking mid west farmers about the cost of arugula at Whole Foods?
Yeah…Obama should really talk about this one. Also, since he’s ripping John on Cindy’s real estate investments, does that mean wives are fair play again? I can’t wait to start talking about Michelle again.
Posted by: Frank | August 21, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
McSame did not need assistance from Rezko b/c he had the help of his $100 million Barbie-doll wife! McSame’s eight houses worth $13 mill, compared to the $1 mill Obama made? Makes sense to me the same way that GWBush being a war hero for being AWOL from friggin’ stateside Guard duty entitles him to dress up like a fly boy, while Kerry, who still has shrapnel in his body from ENLISTING in Vietnam is “against the troops!” Yeah it all makes sense to me; thankfully, I don’t have much of an imagination, so I don’t know what these people mean about a lousy economy! Stop the whining already! Just buy a bunch of condos and rent them out!
Posted by: gso-chris | August 21, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Right. They own 3. Her foundation owns the others. And so what.? Bumma better watch it. He dosen’t bash Reid, the Gores, Corzines, Kerrys, Rockefellas etc. on their wealth.
Is he trying to say he isn’t interested in wealth for himself?
I can’t bear to watch him anymore. Will not watch the convention or anything else that phoney fraud is on.
Just how many wifes did his dad have when he was supposedly “married” to his mom? What a dysfunctional background.
We need stength and some one with core values for pres. and he isn’t it.
McCain 08
Posted by: kathy | August 21, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
To me, Obama sounds desperate. I am waiting for the McCain ads and the Obama/Rezko housing debacle. Nothing like bringing the wrong attention to yourself.
Posted by: sydney79 | August 21, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Most of the McCains’ real estate is owned by Cindy McCain. Obama indicated that the candidates’ wives should not be brought into the political mudslinging and McCain agreed. Obama is contravening his proposed campaign behavior regarding civility vis-a-vis the candidates’ families (as he has contravened so many of his policy positions in the last few weeks).
In addition, is Obama invoking class-warfare? Is he trying to promote jealousy among Americans? Is he saying there is something wrong with being rich or owning several properties?
Electing someone who promotes class-warfare is the sure way to make the economy much worse. The more I hear Obama speak without teleprompter, the more I’m convinced that, as President, he would be wrong for America.
Posted by: All4America | August 21, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
There are rich people and always will be. I’m not jealous. Good for them.
Obama would want everyone except himself to be poor. His policy is to tax everyone and everything.
Can’t stand the socialist. It doesn’t work.
Cindy McCains charitable foundation has done more for damaged children than any gov. program ever will.
Posted by: kathy | August 21, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
My favorite blog posts here are the Republicans who pretend they are Democrats and spout how they’ll never vote for Obama, how horrible he is, how they voted Democratic their whole life until now. PLEASE – we’re not that stupid. You’re clear McCain supporters trying your little reverse strategy. Let me try this…I have voted Republican my whole life. I am a huge “W” fan but this time I will not vote for McCain. He’s a liar, old and out of touch. Obama 2008!
Wow, that was hard.
Posted by: MarkS | August 21, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Where’s all the dem jealousy about the Kennedys, Rockafellas, Reids, Cozine, Kerrys, Gores…..? Oh thats right, they are dems so its ok to be rich and own several homes.
Looks like he is having a hard time finding a v.p. that will do him good. He can’t win it on his own.
Needs a puppet master since he doesn’t know.
Posted by: kathy | August 21, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Is Obama against people making a profit?
The simple answer is yes. Does anyone here think windfall profit tax on oil companies will help bring down the price of oil? Does not believe in the free market, where oil is priced?
The simple fact is that as American we are not entitled to cheap oil. Oil is a finite resource that will go the highest bidder. We have little control of the amount of oil produced daily, we leave that to our enemies.
Why are liberals so opposed to the free market, drilling and people turning a profit?
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Obama certainly has right to be upset about McCain’s $5 million definition of rich. Obama only made $4 million last year.
Posted by: Dan Friedman | August 21, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Ok it is me off that these quote un quote Republicans and conservatives talk about Obama the Socialist and Dems want class warfare. That is such a false charge. It is as if “they take pride in being ignorant”. Let’s get rid of the fantasy and put down the facts. One in the last 40 years the only time the Federal budget has been anything close to balanced was with a Democratic President.
Bush single handedly managed to rack up more debt then all the Presidents going all the way back to Washington, combined. McCain has run out of money in his campaign more then once despite the fact that he had previous experience running for Pres.
So much for that experience argument.
McCain policy would enact the greatest corporate welfare ever to be in existence. Obama has not once in 19 months run even close to negative in terms of cash on hand. McCain has a bunch of back biting mostly unqualified people running his campaign where as Obama has the best people in the industry in his campaign but unlike McCain Obama calls the shots in his neck of the woods.
It’s awfully strange that McCain fired his Manager and all of a sudden his campaign hit its stride where as Obama alone is responsible for the campaign’s dark and sunny times. Obama has a high performance corporate like campaign where as McCain has a frat house style where the in crowd has control regardless of their job performance. You tell me which candidate is the real example of the free market forces.
Posted by: TJustSaying | August 21, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
So “The Obama” strikes back. I guess while he was playing Rock Star & Demi-God isn’t all its cracked up to be when you drop in the Polls. So big deal…..we already knew McCain married into big money. Somehow I don’t think it really means much to a man who spent years being tortured for his country and had the guts to turn down early release so those who were captured first could be released first. And I don’t think McCain has ever said American worders are bitter, gun toting, bible thumping, bigots, nor has McCain ever referred to himself as the 2nd coming…like “The Obama’s” “We are the ONE we’ve been waiting for. So have fun Obama…McCain has 7 houses….whew!
Posted by: valwayne | August 21, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
It is OK to be rich. However, it is not OK to support policies which can only make the rich richer and the poor poorer, like what McCain did most of the time. The only two possible explanations to his misbehaviors are either he is a bad person, or he is just out of touch. Let’s give him the benefit of doubt. Let’s just call him out of touch!
Posted by: james chen | August 21, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Amazing to read ABC reporters making a big deal out of how many homes McCain owns while ignoring Os(b)ama’s friendly ties with Bill Ayres-a liberal involved with a failed bombing of the Pentagon! How anyone could elect Os(b)ama to be our Commander in Chief is astounding!!!
Posted by: da | August 21, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
“So “The Obama” strikes back. I guess while he was playing Rock Star & Demi-God isn’t all its cracked up to be when you drop in the Polls. So big deal…..we already knew McCain married into big money. Somehow I don’t think it really means much to a man who spent years being tortured for his country and had the guts to turn down early release so those who were captured first could be released first. And I don’t think McCain has ever said American worders are bitter, gun toting, bible thumping, bigots, nor has McCain ever referred to himself as the 2nd coming…like “The Obama’s” “We are the ONE we’ve been waiting for. So have fun Obama…McCain has 7 houses….whew!”
If he is running for general in chief you might have a point. But what in the hell does being tortured have to being President? How many Presidents have been tortured previously?
And the fact that you got shot down seems to speak more to the fact that you probably screwed up some where to begin with. Ok we have to honor the fact that McCain endured for his country, let’s give him that. What in the hell does that have to do with running for office? There where 890 something students in that Navel Academy McCain went to how did he manage to get 894 out of 899 you have got to be kidding.
There have been people who have showed up only on test day in college and still did far better then McCain in the Navel Academy. This guy is older then dirt and need Liberman to whisper in his ear during and Iraq visit. That is the real Judas and we know who’s VP Liberman will be. He should shadow McSenior on the campaign trail and make sure he does not have a senior moment.
Posted by: TheMcSameMcLame | August 21, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Obama’s energy plan…check the air in your tires to see if they are inflated properly.(!!!)
Obama makes W look like Albert Einstein!
By the way, does Obama know how many states there are in the U.S. (he stated there were 57 at a recent town hall meeting)?
Thank god a Republican didn’t say things this stupid-we’d hear it a million times from the mainstream liberal media.
Posted by: da | August 21, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Obama’s energy plan…check the air in your tires to see if they are inflated properly.(!!!)
” Obama makes W look like Albert Einstein!
“By the way, does Obama know how many states there are in the U.S. (he stated there were 57 at a recent town hall meeting)?
Thank god a Republican didn’t say things this stupid-we’d hear it a million times from the mainstream liberal media.
Posted by: da | Aug 21, 2008 11:30:10 PM”
Obama’s energy plan is about the size of a small dictionary. Again it is like you guys take pride in being ignorant. Inflating tires will save more gas then all the damn US drilling you can muster.
McSenior having trouble remembering what bills he voted for so what you talking about??? You really do not want to match a guy who graduated at the top of his law school with one that graduated at the bottom of his Navel Academy. You cannot be talking about that 72 year old guy who said he does not use the internet could you?
Posted by: TJustSaying | August 21, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
If Obama can see the capital gains tax rising to 28% doesn’t that severely limit my incentive to invest in the stock market?
When Obama implements a wind fall tax program what will his plan be when retail gasoline stations simply raise the price to counter the tax?
40% of Americans do not pay income tax how does Obama plan to give these people a tax break, when they do not pay income tax?
When Obama raises taxes what will his response be when a small business owner simply lays of an employee to cover the cost on his bottom line?
Posted by: Griff | August 21, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Apparently Obama has never heard of:
a) Owning investment properties;
b) prenups and not knowing exactly what one’s spouse owns;
c) that McCain deliberately separated himself from his wife’s finances just so this kind of class warfare crap couldn’t be played against him.
Posted by: Peach | August 21, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
This is my first time reading comments on this site. Very intersting. I thought the Obama ad was clever, but not negative. For it to get McCain’s people freaking out like this means it has hit the mark. After weeks of putting up with questions of his patriotism and being accused of not putting country first, elite,celebrity etc, I am glad he finally started fighting back against Bush’s people and that is who it is. McCain use to be ok, and I wouldn’t mind the 2000 McCain being president, but now this one, he can’t make a statement without his campaign making him come back out and retract it..like he is a puppet. The old MCain also would never get in bed with the people who slimed his wife and child in 2000..that was deal breaker for me. No one should disrepect your family and you go sell your soul to them..but then he disrepected the first family also…why should I trust him..Obama08
Posted by: DT | August 22, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
DT: Perhaps you could direct us to just how and when John McCain questioned Obama’s patriotism.
Can’t do it? I didn’t think so, but it makes a cute talking point for the DNC.
Posted by: Peach | August 22, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Give the McCains a break. They got their money the old-fashioned way: they inherited and married it. That’s not their fault.
Posted by: billp | August 22, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Funny how suddenly all these McCain supporters are crying “FOUL!” now. When they were calling Obama an elitist, it was perfectly fine. Now that McCain looks out of touch, it’s suddenly a horrible thing to do. Quite laughable.
And where do you people get off saying Obama is attacking Cindy McCain? I’ve never heard Obama mention her name, or any of his campaign staff. Quit making up crap. But I sure remember McCain’s henchmen attacking Michelle Obama.
If Mccain doesn’t own any of those homes (like all these air-head excuses are being made for him), then why didn’t he just say he doesn’t own them? Get real – this old fart owns them, along with a piece of the Diamondbacks baseball team, and a million dollar parking lot!
As for Rezko, last I checked, he was on trial (not Obama), and nothing illegal was tied to Obama, so it’s a non-story. You clowns really don’t want to bring up all the ties McCain has to the Keating Five, and Jack Abramoff, do you?
Finally, William Ayers was never convicted of a crime…and I think Obama was 8 years old when these “Alleged” crimes took place. All those charges were dropped, so I’m trying to see where Obama’s crime is in all of this, LOL
You guys are looking desperate trying to cover for McGrumpy, LOL
Posted by: The "O" Man | August 22, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
I don’t care if McCain has 27 houses, the fact is Obama sucked at Saddleback last Saturday and CNN is rerunning it all weekend! Can’t wait for the debates and Obama’s lengthy “nuanced” answers that put us all to sleep.
McCain ’08/Hillary ’12
Posted by: Debra | August 22, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
“I don’t care if McCain has 27 houses, the fact is Obama sucked at Saddleback last Saturday and CNN is rerunning it all weekend! Can’t wait for the debates and Obama’s lengthy “nuanced” answers that put us all to sleep.
McCain ’08/Hillary ’12″
Another dumb and sad Hillary sore loser.
As for Saddlebrook, what “Honor” do you see in a man who was supposed to be in a “Cone of Silence,” only his conniving self wasn’t? He was in his motorcade, prepping for the questions! And then he comes out on stage and tells a bold-face lie on national tv (ala Hillary/sniper fire) that he was in the room!
I guess you like those liars, hmmm?
Yeah…John McLame, he’s so honorable.
Posted by: The "O" Man | August 22, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
“Obama’s energy plan is about the size of a small dictionary. Again it is like you guys take pride in being ignorant. Inflating tires will save more gas then all the damn US drilling you can muster.”
That is total nonsense and everyone knows it. Obama and the DNC are missing a chapter it’s called DRILL. We have enough to last us at least 60 years. We can OIL out of the ground and in our tanks in short time. Nothing else will ready for 15-20 years.
Posted by: TM | August 22, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
McCain is not like other Americans. The only private sector job he has had since he was 18 was working for his father-in-law.
and Obama has done what? Community activist. A few years as Senator?
Posted by: TM | August 22, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
The O Man -
Apparently you are a little behind on this story. Rick Warren said he gave each candidate a general list of questions and specifically told Obama three questions he would ask. He specifically told McCain 2 questions he would ask and never did get around to telling him the third which was about the president and church’s adoption program.
And yes, continue down the path that a man who was tortured every day for 5 years rather than leave his men behind even when given a chance to leave has so little honor that he cheated by listening in on the questions that would be asked at a religious forum. Like anyone with a brain couldn’t figure out the questions would be about abortion, gay marriage, taxes, evil, the war, etc. There were absolutely no surprises in those questions.
And Obama has campaigned for 1.5 years and couldn’t do better. And tell us — even if McCain did have the questions — let’s pretend, how does that excuse the fact that Obama stunk that night?
Posted by: Peach | August 22, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
“Tell that to T-Boone”
and T Bone’s plan to replace cheap effecient oil is what…
a 100K Hydrogen Car
electric – without nukes?
I’m also amazed how anti-captitalist democrats are jumping all over T-Bone. Who has already made a small fortune will make a small fortune on his Wind Farms.
Obama’s energy plans is hope and dreams not based on reality.
Posted by: TM | August 22, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
I’m 14 years old and I’m still smart enough to know that the economy isn’t in our minds, my dad was layed off, because bush sent his company overseas. I cannot understand why anyone would want 4 more years of this. I finally realized that mccain could win because of selfish rich people who want to keep their 7 homes and not have to ever have to help anyone not as fortunate as they were. Obama will help! You people who think otherwise are obviously afraid of his skin color that he will terrorize our country!Open your eyes to the world, and try to push past the fact he does not “look like the guys on our bills.” and has a funny name. OBAMA!!!
Posted by: Martin | August 22, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
I care about my house and the economy that’s gone south ”
and how is socialism and anti capitalism going to help you?
Posted by: TM | August 22, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
“I’m 14 years old and I’m still smart enough to know that the economy isn’t in our minds, my dad was layed off, because bush sent his company overseas.”
It was Bush that sent your fathers job oversea’s. Does Bush run your father’s company? Did Bush sign NAFTA in the 90′s?
There’s pleny of jobs in this country for people to transition careers.
Posted by: TM | August 22, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
“The O Man -
Apparently you are a little behind on this story. Rick Warren said he gave each candidate a general list of questions and specifically told Obama three questions he would ask. He specifically told McCain 2 questions he would ask and never did get around to telling him the third which was about the president and church’s adoption program.
And yes, continue down the path that a man who was tortured every day for 5 years rather than leave his men behind even when given a chance to leave has so little honor that he cheated by listening in on the questions that would be asked at a religious forum. Like anyone with a brain couldn’t figure out the questions would be about abortion, gay marriage, taxes, evil, the war, etc. There were absolutely no surprises in those questions.
And Obama has campaigned for 1.5 years and couldn’t do better. And tell us — even if McCain did have the questions — let’s pretend, how does that excuse the fact that Obama stunk that night?”
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, Peachy. I happen to think Obama did very well, considering he was in a pro McCain crowd, and he was having an actual conversation with the pastor, not stumping a speech to every question to the audience.
And let’s not pretend McShame didn’t have the questions. He blurted out one time, asking the pastor, “Is this the question about the Supreme Court Justices?” The pastor told him he was getting ahead…hmmm, I wonder how he knew?
And can McLame answer one question without him throwing his war-at-all-cost answers? Jesus, this guy looks like a War-Monger who will have us fighting to the end of time. Does he know anything else but conflict?
And can we please talk about McCain without constantly being reminded over and over and over and over and over that he was a POW, and he suffered for 5 years? WE GET IT. But that’s not the answer to health-care, or high gas prices.
By the way, I remember Rick Warren telling the audience that Obama and McCain would be asked the same questions, and that Mr. GI-JOE was in this “Cone of Silence” so he couldn’t her the questions.
What I want to know is, “Why Wasn’t He?”
Posted by: The "O" Man | August 22, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
The O-man’s tactic is way off on this one. I WANT to own 7 houses. Every American wants to be able to own 7 houses, if not more. It’s the American dream. Going after McCain on this shows O’s instinctive, reflexive bent toward redistribution of wealth. It is a small section of the American population, mainly hard-core leftists/socialists/marxists who revel in “soak the rich and give it to the poor” rhetoric. This ad will backfire in the US, but would likely be a hit in places like Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea.
Now the response will come from the McCain camp and it will be devastating. How many Dem leaders live in squalor? Feinstein? Pelosi? Hillary and Bill? Gore? The O campaign made a BIG mistake with this ad, which works only if Dems from top to bottom are the party of financial modesty, if not poverty.
Big mistake!
Posted by: JoeC | August 22, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
“There’s a shortage of auto mechanics, plumbers, electricians, good contractors,roofers, sales positions, etc. etc. etc. If people want work there are plenty of jobs available. If they want to show up on time, work hard, stay off booze and drugs, there’s plenty of opportunities in this country.”
That is a stereotype of the few people who cannot get there lives together. I agree these people should stop asking the government for money. But the other %90 just can’t find a job. Ford and general motors cut 30,000 jobs each, and you’re saying the economy is great… Wow, 60,000 jobs, i’d say that is significant. First of all what is you’re business? You should be more open minded to the fact that these 60,000 men have families to feed and college is extremely expensive(another problem obama will help) So 2 years of college to learn how to become another trade would literally put the family on the streets. OBAMA!
Posted by: Martin | August 22, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
next question…
how much energy do they consume, even unoccupied?
NYT did a recent piece on how much water Lance Armstrong’s house uses. Tops the list in Houston.
Well, with a house having an indoor and outdoor pool, and what may be…per Politico, eight…or Time, ten houses, they have a footprint.
how green in johnny’s $14 million?
Posted by: kravitz | August 22, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
For those who believe the unempolyment rate is sooo sooo high maybe you should look at the data and figure out why and who is unempoyed.
unempolyment rate for people with less than a HS Diploma has increased from 6.9% to 8.5%
HS Diploma 4.5% to 5.2%
Some College or Associates 3.7% to 4.5%
College Degree 2.4% to 2.4%
Even clueless socialist, I mean democrats should be able to figure this out.
I know, I know what the socialist will say has Bush isn’t spending enough on education. BS he’s increased education spending like you would expect a democrat to do.
Let’s keep plowing money into our low performing public school education system instead of giving people school choice.
Posted by: TM | August 22, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
“If you want a number MUCH bigger than this ELECT MCCAIN.”
Now that’s funny.. You really think Obama is going to shrink the size of the government? Do you really think increasing tax’s rates will increase revenues under OBAMA. Tax increases will not raise revenues. The fact is the governemnt has record tax revenues now – they problem is spending. I mentioned before we have two party’s Blue Dog Democrats and Far Left Wing Socialists. How in the world will OBAMA shrink the size of the debt with his socialistic programs. Obama is already on record as saying the size of deficit is not a major concern to him.
The war is peanuts compared to number the government spends every year. It’s 3 dam trillion a year.
Clothing styles have resembled the 70′s recently .. our economy will mirror it if Obama is elected.
Posted by: TM | August 22, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
“But the other %90 just can’t find a job. Ford and general motors cut 30,000 jobs each, and you’re saying the economy is great… Wow, 60,000 jobs, i’d say that is significant.”
60,000 people seems like a lot but in reality it’s .02% of the population.
The problem I have with this the issues in the auto industry didn’t happen over night. The auto industry has been losing jobs for 25-30 yrs. The unions are killing them, their pension requirements are killing them, the poor quality for their products is killing them, the writing was on the wall for many years.
I was in the automotive industry.. I realized 15-18 or so years ago my job would not be around another 30-40 years or so. I went to school at night and on the weekends took 9 years and moved on. To many people in the country react instead of being proactive. If I had sat on my ass for 10 years waiting to get laid off I would have hand out to Uncle Sam as well.
Not sure how Obama is going to get people off their asses to go to school or how he’s going to pay for it. I haven’t figured out what’s wrong with student loans. I had them – took 10 yrs to pay them off.
I think your under estimating the number of unemployed people who really want to work, Your 10% number should be more like 50%.
Posted by: tm | August 22, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
No the vast majority want handouts and the government to do everything for them.. that is why Obama will win – bringing back the roaring 70’s.
Posted by: TM | August 22, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am
If you are not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at forty, you have no brain.
- Sir Winston Churchill
Posted by: TM | August 22, 2008, 4:44 am 4:44 am
So Obama is saying because Franklin Roosevelt had numerous homes, he was unqualified to put together programs for those less fortunate?
Or that all those Kennedy homes mean Ted has no understanding for the Americans with one address?
I suppose if Cindy McCain attended one of Obama’s $7.8M fundraising parties, her four homes wouldn’t be a problem. Who is Barack Obama talking to??
Michelle told Barack he should run for President this year while they’re still “normal”! Tell us again how many bottles the wine cellar in the Obama mansion holds…
Posted by: expatriot | August 22, 2008, 4:47 am 4:47 am
The fact that he has 7 houses is irrelevant. What is relevant is that someone in his economic strata, supported by a spouse worth $100 million, has a limited ability to either identify with or understand the economic plight of the common man. Also, with respect to the POW status and the 5 years in captivity, McCain should forever be honored and respected for his patriotic experience. However, there are also thousands of vietnam Vets and victims of roadside bombings in Iraq who experienced tortuous circumstances yet those examples of national and patriotic seervice above self, as McCain says, do not make them fit to be President of the United States. The electorate is gullible and guilt ridden when they feel compelled to support McCain because of his service and his POW experience. He deserves praise and honor – not elevation to the Presidency because of it.
Posted by: steve | August 22, 2008, 5:39 am 5:39 am
Hear the guy in his own words celebrate low achievement. Is this the type of President that will inspire a nation to achieve the impossible?
Posted by: McCainWho | August 22, 2008, 6:31 am 6:31 am
Is this what you mean about qualified to lead?
Posted by: McCainWho | August 22, 2008, 6:34 am 6:34 am
Obama really cares about the people? What a dillusional crowd.
According to the 07 income tax statements Obama made over 4.2 million dollars last year, he dodnated $ 240,370.00 to charity that comes to about 6%. Of the total donations 50 thousand went to the United ***** College fund and $26,270 went to Trinity United Church.
By comparison McCain had an income of $405,409.00 he donated $105,469 of that to charity or roughly 26%.
Posted by: TM | August 22, 2008, 6:47 am 6:47 am
I’m always amazed at how democrats trivialize McCain’s Vietnam experience while for 8 years they’ve blasted Bush for dodging the War. Four years ago that’s all Kerry ran on and was a War Hero to the democrats. Now the democrats want to minimize McCain’s decades of experience and experience in Vietnam for someone that was a community activist a few years ago. The double standard is quite mind – boggling.
Posted by: TM | August 22, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am
I find it fascinating democrats comparing McCain to Bush especially the TV ADS run by Obama. Obama must think the entire population in America is as stupid as democrats with this lame attempt at comparing McCain to Bush. My nine yr old daughter knows the difference. After one such commercial she stated “Dad, I thought Bush could only be President for 8 yrs.. (Yes you are correct)… Then why are they saying George Bush will President again for another 4 years? I tried to explain the lame satire attempt by Obama and the DNC but I explained how Obama and the DNC believes Americans are to stupid to know this.. Her response “Dad maybe they should go back to school.”
Posted by: TM | August 22, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am
Actually, I don’t believe McCain owns any homes.
Posted by: drjohn | August 22, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
obama should worry about his own home
nice move AXEOLROD….you just opened up the can to REZKO….
Keep up the good work….
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | August 22, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Steve wrote: (about McCain):
“He deserves praise and honor – not elevation to the Presidency because of it.”
___________
On what basis…. what background…. what achievements… would you elevate Obama to the presidency?
On the basis of a campaign well run?
Then elect Axelrod.
On the basis of empty promises of chancey change?
Then elect Hans Christian Andersen.
On the basis of leading a senatorial sub-committee on Afghanistan for which he called nary a single meeting…..?
On the basis of snubbing our wounded in both Iraq and Germany?
Consider the lack of possibilities!
Posted by: eyes opening | August 22, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
McCain house JOKES at HuffPo
my favorite
McCain had the number of his houses written down, but he left it in his other plane.
Posted by: mark | August 22, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
I hope Mittler Romney has his counted his many houses accurately, since TIME magazine say he’s Grampy’s VP.
Doubling down with Cindy McBigBuck’s money and Mittler’s money…will really make this team look like the Lifestyles of the RICH and ARROGANT.
Posted by: mark | August 22, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
McCain’s lamest comeback
a noun, a verb, Hanoi Hilton
I could kiss Grampy right on his crepey old face, by trying to excuse his Embarrassment of Riches with his POW history. McCain is diminishing his own achievement as a FREE PASS CARD, which no Democrat would have dared touch.
Posted by: mark | August 22, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Love the Obama ad!
I think Brian Rogers is “out of touch wwith the concerns of average Americans.” Is he aware, for instance, that when Barack Obama was on vacation, he was visiting his grandparents who have property in Hawaii?
Or that Barack is probably still paying his mortgage on that million-dollar property he owns?
Does Rogers know that many farmers and ranchers in states like Montana (where I’ve lived before) do “cling” to guns and religion? (Granted, “cling” is not the correct word to use.)
And does he know that since it takes thousands of years for earth layers to compress against one another to create oil underground, once it’s gone (and we will use it up eventually) that’s it. Plus, there are no guarantees against oil spills. Alternative energy sources are our best bet.
Finally, if Obama needs to raise taxes to pay for programs and other things like improving our roads and bridges, how else does Rogers think we’ll be able to afford these things?
Barack Obama’s parents were not wealthy. He made something of himself and some people want to tear him apart for it. Meanwhile, he wants to help those of us without a lot of money by creating affordable health care programs, investing in renewable energy projects to lower energy costs (which will undoubtably create new jobs), and lower taxes for the low- and middle-class.
Posted by: donkeycat | August 22, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm