Rick Warren Would Have Serious Compunctions About Voting for an Adulterer, Says John Edwards Has Lost the Trust of America

So, I guess that means he won’t be voting for John McCain?

So I assume that means he is not voting for John McCain either, right ?

And… what’s Edwards running for again?

What a bunch of hypocritical baloney. The Jesus freaks are alive but not well.

So, the John McCain of 30 years ago is the same as the John McCain of today? Some Christians don’t beleive in Divorce and re-marriage and they consider it adultery if a divorce person re-marry. Having said that, does this disqualify individuals who are divorced?

Yes, we all know McCain cheated on his wife. For some reason, sex outside of marriage is supposed to have some kind of earth-shattering importance, but I dont get it. Yeah, I know that if McCain reneged on his marriage vows, we cant trust him to uphold his oath of office, big deal. There are so many other reasons not to trust McCain, that this just seems silly by comparison.

He needs to ask Obama if he knows for sure that he has not had an affair on his wife. How can he be so sure when he was taking cocaine during part of the marriage. Crack is whack!

I’ve never met a self-proclaimed “religious” person that could live up to the fictional characters they compare everyone else to. As it turns out, they are as flawed, if not MORE flawed, than those they presume to judge. I am not fooled.

Someone needs to remind Jake Tapper and Rick Warren that John Edwards is a private citizen who is not running for any political office. And Jake should ask Rick Warren straight out if that means he is not supporting John McCain for president. Go Obama, devout husband.

As if every body who post here are lily white pure.

Yes I would like to ask Tapper why he didnt ask that question “Rick Warren, are you voting for McCain, because he cheated on his wife”? these people are such hipocrites!

If I waited to vote for a man who didn’t run around on his wife then I wouldn’t be voting at all.

Ironic; but my brother Obama as a “believer” at heart himself will have no problem with having more wives or forgiving people that sin.
Obama 08

Who cares? These preachers are no better than anyone else. We all have skeletons in our closets. By the time someone gets to be of age to be president of the USA, he/she certainly has made some mistakes. So what? These candidates are human beings for christsake!!!!! Get over it. They poop and pee the same way we all do! Obama ’08!

I thought Warren was supporting Obama…

Does such an adulterer include a person by the name John McCain who is running for President? I would hope so!

Rick Warren won’t be voting for Obama after he learned about who Obama’s pastor was for 20 years. Not to mention that Obama backs infanticide.
If he did vote for Obama, then I would have serious doubts about Rick being a Christian.

I wonder if Rick Warren knows that John McCain cheated on his first wife with Cindy McCain and even lived with her BEFORE he was divorced from his firs wife.
Also, I wonder if Rick Warren knows that John McCain even LIED about this affair in one of his books and the LA Times did an article that called him on it.
I wonder if the rest of America knows that John McCain is an adulterer.

Obama probably only agreed to do the interview if Rick didn’t ask Obama’s views on abortion and how he voted to let babies die if there is a botched abortion (with no medical interventioned ordered).
No Christian could vote for that kind of man. Period.

The question was a set up for the John McCain question. However, if you noticed, Rick Warren didnt say that someone who commits adultry can never be trusted again. He said it takes time to earn that trust back. I believe that McCain has done that. Why is it that all of the liberal newspapers were so quick to try and pin McCain on looking at a woman not long ago, but refuse to look into the Edwards issues? And liberals are so quick to point at McCain? I would like to see how many people could tolerate 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war and make anything of their lives. Give the man some credit!

It amazes me that so many think that an adulterer is no hindrance to being a leader. If someone was robbing money and lied to cover it up, wouldn’t you question their credibility in other areas? Why would someone only lie about cheating, but be believable about their abilities to lead our country? When they continue with the lies to cover-up their misdeeds, how can an apology or explanation be totally believed?
Rick Warren talks about using the Bible as a set of standards to be followed, and they are for our welfare, not chains to bind us. Besides, it is also common sense. Who wants cheating, lying, and so on to be acceptable behavior other than the offender himself?
I think that it is a great idea for Rev. Warren to have McCain and Obama come to his church for a forum so his congregation can assess both candidates.

Dear Pastor Warren–
Please take your susperstitious gibberish and go away. Far far far away.

Cory,
No one listens to pastors any more? Give me a break Rick has over 20,000 attendees and has impacted tens of thousand of pastors who share his vision, faith and values. The reality is that no one listens to Cory. Sorry buddy but you know not what you speak of.

Obama has picked the best in his pastor and other religious men of the cloth. Look at Rev. jesse Jackson, Fr. Pfleger and Rev. Wright. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Obama is batting 0 for 3.

After reading OBAMA NATION, McCain is looking darn good. I almost voted for slick. I urge everyone to read this book, it is very informative and uncovers the “real” Obama.

I believe Obama and Edwards were working together, against Hillary. Both men have dirt to hide and hopefully, no more than one would get caught and the other gets the nomination. First, Edwards got caught and now, Obama is caught in the book, Obama Nation. Oops!!!

Vanessa,
Are you defending Obama’s good friend, Edwards? Didn’t the ego-centric Edwards throw all his support to the arrogant Obama?
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Pennsylvanians, stop clinging to your guns and your religion!
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By the way, that doesn’t rule Hillary out. We don’t know the whole story with Obama, though. McCain has a sordid past as well.
Perhaps delegates will take heed, and vote their conscience — I’d love to see Hillary pull the rug out from under these guys who think that another egotistical male will be running this country for the next four years.

“everybody is a critic and all the media live in fear of the moral right…”
and the moral left.

Jake,
You say, “I had the privilege of interviewing Rick Warren today…”, but why didn’t you ask the obvious and key follow up question regarding whether Mr. Warren can trust and vote for Senator McCain?

I am a Christian but I find it disheartening that Rick Warren or any other Pastor would use their position to cast a stone at a human being who is critically flawed. More rephrehensible to me is the idea that John Edwards ran for the Democratic nomination knowing that he had lied about his affair making him a “lame duck” so to speak. Then after withdrawing from the race, giving his support to Obama. I think that it was a conspiracy within the Democratic Party to keep the nomination from going to a woman. It was no accident that Obama was in Hawaii on vacation this week!
I have no respect for the political system that plays these kind of games with the American public and I have no respect for religion playing a part in politics.

ASharon,
I think Al was using the Bible as a reference for adultery. In the Bible, adultry is a man having sex with an engaged or married woman. I.e., Bill C. having sex with Monica would not be considered adultery.

It is true that Adultery is married persons having sex with someone who is not their wife. That is exactly what John McCain did when he took Cindy to wife. Each sexual act he has with her is an act of adultery, because she is not legally his wife in the sight of God. I would suggest both political parties read to their bible. John 8 records a woman caught in the act of adultery. Matt. 19 is what John McCain is guilty of_Adultery. In other words, for the biblically challenged, John McCain is living in Adultery every day for the past 30+ years. It is true that lots of politicans both democrat and republican are guilty of this act, but it doesn’t mean I have to vote for it. John McCain is an AULTERER.

According to Matthew 19:9 and Matthew 5:32, John McCain is an ADULTERER. These are the words of Jesus, and the definition of Adultery he gave to all of us, and not the definition of dictionaries. And the way John McCain divorced his first wife was even more despicable than the act itself. If he could betray his first wife the way he did, he could betray America as well. I could never in all good conscience ever vote for an adulterer.

Al:
Jesus often spoke disparagingly of the self-righteous. You might want to be careful.

So let me see Lawrence, if I get this straight, you would equate lusting with the act of Adultery? No where in the bible does it say one has the right to put away their spouse if they lust for another. Please don’t mix apples and oranges here. I agree Jesus had the power to forgive adultery, but never did he condone adultery. However you forget the last part of these verses in John 8 when he said, “Go and sin no more”. John McCain continues to live in sin and many will follow his act. What kind of example is that? We can’t get in the minds of hearts, but we who have eyes and ears and understanding surely can see what John McCain has done and continues to do_live in ADULTERY.

We have to remember to measure guilt or innocence by God’s standards and not the standard’s of any individual… Forgiveness and trust ARE different …as far as integrity… it’s a good quality… if you can find it in someone then vote for them…
In the words of Spongebob Squarepants “Good luck with that!”
Not that there are no men of integrity but you might be hard pressed to find one on the ballot in November.

I am merely speaking from my own perspective and I understand that not everyone holds my views. The only reason that religion was brought up by me was because of the unlearned and ill-applied logic of those who quote from or about things scriptural that they don’t even really espouse at all in the first place.

Anyone can accurately quote something whether they espouse it or not. As an atheist who spent my first 30+ years as an active Christian and church leader, I probably understand the Bible better than most Christians.

It is quite impossible for a non-believer to properly discern scripture without the aid of the Holy Spirit. You have to have the decoder ring or you are lost. Scriptures are to be rightly divided… which means that you have to understand that God discerns the heart more than the simple “letter of the law” and scriptures apply accordingly. You can accurately quote scripture all day long and entirely miss the real meaning… in other words swallow a camel and strain at a gnat… Only a fool would quote from things that they don’t believe in the first place… especially from a book that inherently requires enlightenment and spiritual discernment.

For the record, I would have to assume after reading mosts of these posts that most of the writers did not bother reading the entire story before voicing their opinions. Warren states it takes years to rebuild trust. McCain cheating on his firt wife was 25+ years ago and has since been married faithfully to the same woman. Clinton cheated on his wife many years ago and has in time built up his good standing with the public again. Edwards cheated on his wife recently and no one does trust him at this point in time. Perhaps in time he can build that trust up again, or maybe not, only time will tell. No matter what posts I read it is covered with Obama leaches trying to turn every story (related to Obama..or not) into a pro-Obama, down with McCain story. For the record, I think both canidates suck…but this story isnt really about them, is it.

As it is said about Edwards, let’s not forget McCain’s outings, nor Bill Clinton’s extra marital affairs….

While I do not condone adultery by any stretch of the imagination, I do not hold the opinion that an unfaithful husband is necessarily a poor president. Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, and Lyndon Johnson were no angels in their married lives, but they were all good presidents. To assume that an adulter will “cheat” on the people he is elected to lead is false logic, a non sequitor.

It amazes me how these self titled ‘christians’ always forget about ‘Let he who is without sin cast the first stone’.
Where was this guy when another self titled ‘christian leader’ was out buggering everyone?
What a load of crap these people are. These are the people we need to deport.

Why has the Communist Party America come out in support of Barack Obama? Do Democrats feel comfortable being on the same side as people who want to change America into a Marxist Totalitarian State?
Is THIS the “change” Mr. Obama has in mind?

It Makes Me Sick When I hear All These Self Proclaimed Christian Guru’s! Aren’t There Two Sides To Every Story! ? Love To LOOK Deep In their Closets!

Hmmm… I have one word to add here: David. Those of you who have read the Bible probably remember the fellow I am talking about — think “and Bathsheba.” As I remember the story, it would seem that one can overcome a history of adultery and become a successful leader.

Now that’s very interesting. John McCain is, of course, an adulterer, by his own admission. Like Edwards, he started an affair while his wife was sick — injured in a car wreck — carried it on for several months before he told his wife and served her with divorce papers. I don’t know why your interviewer didn’t ask about McCain, but if this pastor really means what he says, he ought to rule out voting for McCain as well, no?

>>>Hmmm… I have one word to add here: David. Those of you who have read the Bible probably remember the fellow I am talking about — think “and Bathsheba.” As I remember the story, it would seem that one can overcome a history of adultery and become a successful leader.<<<
Actually….. No, you are mistaken.
David was a great leader BEFORE the Bathsheba affair. It was the treachery and cover-up that led to his downfall and the curse on his son.

Salvi, that would indeed be outrageous – if it were true. There was never any question about it though.

So we now know he’s not voting for McCain…

Rick Warren’s circular logic and self-appointed expertise are of no interest to me, and should have no place in our political process. What idiot set up this debate?

Tell me again who this Rick Warren is? I don’t think I’ve ever heard of him. We’ll probably learn that he’s got some horrible secret in his closet next month. His logic, by the way, is faulty. He does not make the case that forgiveness is immediate but trust is a longer take. And isn’t the trust issue between him and his wife? Who is this Rick to get in the middle of it? And if this is the case, let’s take a look at all the politicians (both red & blue) who’ve committed adultery. . . That being said I would rather have someone like Edwards in charge because his record on things like the economy and peace and helping the poor is far, far better than any Republican, ever. He’s not MY husband, and I’ll take my cue from his works.

I simply cannot understand, politics aside, why so many of the people who comment say things like “everyone does it”, or “how can you be so critical?” Not everyone cheats on their spouse. I have been faithful to my only wife for 41 years. I am an atheist and have not seen the inside of a church in decades (except for weddings or funerals). It is not a matter of religion but one of honor and responsibilty. I don’t claim to be a wonderful person, but I have always managed to be true to the woman I love. I don’t criticize anyone who does fool around but I am offended by those who say no one has the standing to do so.

What the heck is a ‘true American’? That’s so silly. You’re making this up.

I am not religious, but cheating does happen in relationships and is truely a reprehensible act. If you can’t keep it in your pants and resist temptation when you say “I do” then don’t get married in the first place. I think what upsets me most in the case of Edwards/Newt/McCain is that they cheated on a very sick spouse who needed their love and unconditional support. They did it at a time when their significant other was at their lowest low. McCain is now suddenly a good guy because he paid for his past wife’s medical bills? I think not. Does cheating happen? Yes. Does that mean we, as a nation, should normalize this activity? Nope.
Marriage is a microcosm for politics. America, while not in its lowest low, is having some hard times. We need someone strong on the policy to begin the process of bringing us out of deficit and stengthening this country from the ground up. How would we feel if a politician cheated on their promises for this country? Cheated on their oath to its people? We need someone dedicated who can uphold their commitment to the American people and be strong in the face of temptation and the easy road.
If I can’t look towards you to make it work in your personal life, I certainly don’t want you taking risks with mine.

Ooooh, just read that Lawrence thinks that ‘almost every man and every woman cheats in and out of marriage’ – really? 31 years and still not cheated…. I also know that of all my woman friends, not one has cheated. My husband’s clean, too (I know, I only have what he says, but I trust HIM). I think you just need new friends!

I’m also getting pretty tired of this whole Obama swift-boating effort. Black politicians in Chicago are of course going to be dealing with radical elements and fringe personalities, it’s part of the landscape. Most people understand that. And people- black, mostly- have also been making fun of these fringe personalities ever since Good Times and Sanford and Son went on the air. It’s a familiar part of our culture, like the hippy movement. Quaint, yes. Scary? Give me a break.

John Mccain cheated on his first wife after she had an auto accident!

Frances:
You mean this isn’t a Totalitarian state under GWB????

I hope Pastor Warren preaches that this weekend when the fellas are there to talk with the evangelicals. Senator McCain is another confessed adulterer. Is it different if you marry the girlfriend? I hope not. Given the conditions under which Senator McCain left his first wife (and the number of times he cheated on her), perhaps there will be mass evangelical movement away from McCain. Otherwise hypocrisy reigns in the land of evangelicals… just like I thought. Pastor Warren is right. I’ll forgive them, but not trust them. (Not trusting McCain has been second nature since he was a member of the Keating 5.)

What will Rick say at the judgement of the righteous about even granting Obama any type of venue?
Not even going into the fact that he supports abortion though the total pregancy; Obama has fought for and advocated the murdering of children born alive after an attempted abortion.
Or will that be the judgment where Jesus says “I never knew you”?

I agree completely. I will never vote for John Edwards or John McCain. They promised “… in sickness and in health, and forsaking all others, ’til death do us part” before God and the woman they supposedly loved most. Then they trampled all over those vows. All of McCain’s campaign promises mean about as much to him as his wedding vows.

I am so happy to hear that he can not support McCain. I hope other evangelicals follow suit.

Christian leaders need to be careful of what they say. Pride, as we all know goes before a fall. And denouncing your brother publicly invites others to be critical of you. So I hope Rev. Warren never steps out of line. Since no one is perfect, it’ll happen sometime.
I don’t like what Edwards did. But it IS difficult to be a man in power with women throwing themselves at you.
With a 50% divorce rate in the US, and a large portion of those due to unfaithful spouses, seems to me like there are a great many hypocrites out there crying foul. How many cheaters are FIRED from their jobs?
Even though he cheated on his wife, if he were running I’d vote for him tomorrow. A mistake doesn’t make you a ruined person. His wife forgave him, and he didn’t leave her. Newt Gingrich served his wife divorce papers in the hospital while she had cancer! He bit the bullet, told his wife, she forgave him, and that’s good enough for me.
Should be good enough for Rev. Warren too.

The man didn’t say he wouldn’t vote for Edwards. He said we would have a hard time voting for him. I’m sure if Edwards shared 90% of the same beliefs as Warren he probably could still support him. Why are so many of you attacking this man for stating his views on this situation. I don’t even know him but it’s not like he’s attacking Edwards. I’m not sure why some are calling him a hypocrite. Sad how many nasty, cynical people there are in this country. Edwards has other issues that make me sick, this being the least of them. It is dispicable that a man cheats on his wife, and even more so on his terminally ill wife. That being said i would much rather vote for a man that cheats than vote for a man that seriously dislikes his own country. I’ll let you determine who i mean.

What ever happened to seperation of church and state? I am already tired of the canidates running around with their pandering. Let’s cover all issues that affect everyone and not just special interests.

John McCain and John Edwards both have something in common now. They are both adulterers. Let’s now forget McCain’s past! :-)

Then he can’t vote for McCain OR Obama.
He will have to vote for…
RON PAUL!

Funny how the same people that are calling this man hypocritical are the same ones that defended Clinton. Whos’s the hypocrite?

There is no seperation of Church and State in the constitution. Check it out for yourselves.

What about McCain and his messy divorce?? He treated his ex-wife like a piece of disposable garbage.
I have no respect for the way he handled his ex-wife and family.
People will do anything for power and money. McCain is far from a role model in my opinion.

If Pastor Warren is true to his word, then he cannot vote for McCain, who, I believe, admitted he fooled around while married to his first wife. That sounds like adultery to me.

I guess McCain is also out of the question too.

I’m glad so many people know about McCain’s philandering because he certainly hasn’t been outed by the media the way Edwards or Clinton were.

I don’t know whats worse – pop star religous figures claiming to represent the humble and meek king Jesus or the unrepentant here who deny Gods rule over their lives and despise even the mercy He shows to such wicked sinners.

OSURubydoo said: I’m glad so many people know about McCain’s philandering because he certainly hasn’t been outed by the media the way Edwards or Clinton were.
I think it’s because McCain’s infidelity was 30 years ago. Clinton cheated and lied to all of us on national TV while shaking his finger to protest his innocense. Edwards situation just came to light. I’m not condoning McCain’s actions but I would hope he has grown a bit since then. Hope that answers your question.

I understand that some might want to paint everyone with the same broad brush in that cheating is a trust issue. To say that one cannot vote for John Sydney McCain III because he cheated is in the hands of the voter. That this man Warren is so influential to evangelical voters may sow more doubt in their minds about McCain. This is another area where McCain has problems. No one under 55 trusts him so he has to run a negative campaign against Obama. His campaign has and will always be about what we should NOT do as opposed to what we CAN do together as a nation. That kind of tied old politics is not what the country needs. Forget that he cheated on his wife but remember the negativity spewing from his campaign.

Who the heck is Rick Warren and why should I care what he thinks?

For the atheists who don’t believe in God, you are in for one big surprise on judgment day. Also, for those of you bashing Rick Warren. This country was built on Christian principles. He is simply stating the obvious. Those without morals do not make good leaders.

I have some serious concerns about this story…
How can a person truly forgive without forgetting. Jesus said turn the other cheek. I am troubled by the Christian leaders who keep telling us fogive but don’t forget. Or forgive and wait for them to re-earn our trust. If that were trule the case we would all be forgiven but none of us would trust anyone else. Is this the Christian state Jesus ushered in with his resurrection? It seems to me a little bit on the hypocritical side, but who am I to judge, I guess I will leave that to the Christian leaders.
Jesus did say let those without sin cast the first stone.

tigercub: The Rev said we ask for forgiveness and then earn trust. He didn’t say don’t trust the ever again. Don’t you agree that people should earn trust once they have lost it? That’s they way i read his comments.

I think Michele makes a good point here:
So, I guess that means he won’t be voting for John McCain?
Posted by: Michele | Aug 14, 2008 9:32:22 PM

Lonestarkaty,
My God, what a GREAT country we would have if it could be filled with more clear thinking, honest voters like you.
The saddest thing about this election is how many people are lying to themselves about themselves and justifying the stupidist rationales for voting or not voting for someone. If it had been Obama who had cheated on his wife 15 years ago I can just hear the chorus who would use it as just one more false justification.

Those Christians always looking for perfection knowing it doesn’t exist.

Since we Americans seem to be inordinately interested in the sex lives of politicians rather than, say, their actual record on governance–especially Americans who make a point of touting their Christianity (weird, huh?)–maybe we should try to look at this from a historical perspective. There is a long, inglorious history of sexual misconduct in American politics and it bridges parties equally: For every John Edwards (D) there is a David Vitter (R), for every Mark Foley (R) there is a Bill Clinton (D), for every Gary Hart (D) there is a Larry Craig (R), for every John McCain (R) there is John Kennedy (D),etc., etc. Neither side can claim to have the market cornered on morality and it is hypocritical in the extreme for all these “morally outraged” conservatives to try to do so in response to the John Edwards revelations. “Rafters in your own eyes” and all that, folks.
I distrust the judgment of educated, accomplished men and women, regardless of party affiliation, who seem to be unable to provide leadership for their own hormones, much less the country and who apparently have “consequence understanding disorder” and can’t figure out that, as public figures, there WILL be consequences to their philandering. That is why I would not vote for an adulterer–not because of their morality. That is between them, their spouse and their maker. But because you can safely assume that if they lack judgment in one major area of life, they lack it in others, as well. Living in Arizona, as I do, I won’t vote for McCain–. He won’t get my vote because he displays lack of judgment in other even more important areas. He honestly does not seem to recognize (or care) that his own state consistently ranks among the lowest in education and healthcare in the US and, despite having enormous wealth (all in private hands, naturally, the state is broke because they refuse to collect even moderate income tax–I paid $16 last year), lags embarrassingly in salaries and benefits for average Arizonan’s. I hear him sincerely brag about Arizona’s medical system, which is without a doubt one of the worst debacles I have run across in 20 years working in the industry and despair that this is his “vision” for America–a land of a small wealthy elite class as oblivious as he appears to be to the realities of normal people, supported by an under-educated and unhealthy majority. I think he is sincere and that is exactly the problem. He doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. He has been too long in DC and too long insulated from the real world by his wife’s enormous wealth. I used to really like the guy, but he demonstrated his willingness to be “just a politician” like the rest of them when he groveled to the current administration–an administration that had spread ugly lies and rumors about him and his famiy–to curry political favor. His own daughter told him that she had “never been more ashamed of him” than when he endorsed GWB, the man whose campaign had smeared his adopted daughter by false allegations that she was a secret love child. That is not the stance of a “maverick” or a man of integrity. That is the behavior of a typical sleazeball politician more interested in winning elections than in public service.
I’m not suggesting Obama is above all the ugliness. We simply haven’t heard all there is to hear about him yet, but I have no doubt there are some ugly skeletons in that closet, too. For me, at least right now, it comes down to a choice between someone with demonstrated bad judgment (McCain) and someone whose judgment is really an unknown quantity (Obama). I’m not overly comfortable with either choice, but can’t in good conscience vote for McCain after observing his less than stellar governance of the fair state of Arizona for the last three decades.
John Edwards is a non-entity in this election. His political career was pretty much in the toilet prior to this story. Why all the brouhaha?

Infidelity may be “personal”, but if a Presidential candidate’s spouse was the victim of his/her lies and sneaking, what makes anyone believe without any personal evidence that said candidate, upon becoming President, wouldn’t also victimize the American people?
Of course cheaters in the public spotlight want to browbeat others about “privacy”. A reason has been brought to light that they are not trustworthy stewards of serious, solemn commitments that call them to think of other people besides themselves.
Meanwhile, most folks I have met or talked with who support cheaters yet have their own “personal” problems with a cheater tell *anyone* who will listen about what an untrustworthy, lying, mean, heartless, selfish rat the cheater is without any regard to their own “private, personal” issues that really should be “no-one else’s business”.
These people unfortunately are quite hypocritical in that they are selective about whose warts they feel should be publicized and discussed.

Will Rick Warren be asking John McCain about his adultery at Saturday’s forum? Will he make it very direct like “Senator McCain, did you cheat on your first wife?”?

Warren did not say he could not vote for McCain because of his adultery.
Warren said:
“I think people first need to ask forgiveness and then earn trust back over time. Can trust be re-earned? Absolutely but it takes time.”
McCain has said he was wrong for committing adultery. I think Warren would be far more concerned about McCain’s non-stop lies in his Obama attack ads. The ads reflect McCain’s current character.
Jesus forgave people that committed adultery and every other sin. McCain sins every time he lies, which is in the attack ads and every Town Hall meeting where he lies and distorts his and Obama’s tax plan.

How about asking McCain if he cheated on both of his wifes, not just the first one. The scuttlebutt here in Arizona is that he “steps out” on Cindy too (or once did before he got too old), hence her battle with drug addiction. I would like to see the interview that Sam Donaldson did with the New Times reporter that he never aired because it put McCain in a bad light. Or, the interview that 60 minutes did that again wasn’t aired because it would be seen as negative to McCain. See, the media addresses what they want to cover, not what is truthful.

Posted:
Obama supports Israel. Period.
Barack Obama’s big speech on Israel is now over, and as expected, the candidate made no secret of his support and dedication to the special relationship between the U.S. and Israel. “My view is that the United States’ special relationship with Israel obligates us to be helpful to them in the search for credible partners with whom they can make peace, while also supporting Israel in defending itself against enemies sworn to its destruction,” were Obama’s words to Haaretz last week. Today, he sounded as strong as Clinton, as supportive as Bush, as friendly as Giuliani. At least rhetorically, Obama passed any test anyone might have wanted him to pass. So, he is pro-Israel. Period.

All of your comments are so interesting to me.
I really never thought to hold Warren to his comment about adultery. Not my style. I only found myself hoping that conservative Americans might be willing to listen with an open mind to Obama. Somehow it felt as if the deck was stacked against him in the interview….as the crowd and Pastor Rick Warren laughed seemed so automatically receptive to McCain. I do think there is real decency in Obama and a personality about which we might all be proud. I am otherwise very concerned about our status in the world. I wish conservative America could imagine extending their decency and acceptance to Obama.

I am getting tired of listening to Christian Women who say they are Christian but yet are also Pro-Choice. They say that no one has the right to tell them how to use T H E I R bodies. Remember, women, Y O U R ‘so called’ bodies aren’t yours, they’re G O D S!!!