By Natalie Gewargis

Aug 18, 2008 3:37pm

Saddleback Spokesman on Cone-of-Silence-Gate

A. Larry Ross, a spokesman for Saddleback Church and Pastor Rick Warren, says that the campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., has assured the organizers of Saturday night’s "Civil Forum" that McCain did not "see or hear any of Senator Obama’s appearance."

But as for the question the McCain campaign won’t answer — did anyone with McCain, given the questions via email or cell phone, share them with the senator — Ross says, "I cannot speak to that."

Before the forum, Ross says, "both candidates agreed to the format of two consecutive interviews." Based on a coin toss, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, went first, and both candidates also "agreed to and understood that in order to maintain a level playing field, Sen. McCain wouldn’t see or hear any of Sen. Obama’s appearance."

Officials at Saddleback did everything they could to maintain what Warren jokingly called a "cone of silence."

"We made every efforts on the campus" to maintain an integrity to the process, Ross says. In the green room where McCain waited for Obama to finish, a Saddleback staffer even went in and "completely disabled" a TV monitor. "He made sure there was no signal in that room."

Last week Warren spoke with both candidates — McCain on Thursday, Obama on Friday — and outlined the four basic categories of the questions. "He also gave them general themes," Ross says, "like, ‘There will be a tax question,’ ‘There will be an environment question.’ He did not give them specific wording except on two questions, and he did that because this forum was new ground and he didn’t want them to be nervous, he wanted them to be comfortable."

Those two questions were: What is your greatest moral failure and the greatest moral failure of the United States?; and who are the three wisest people you know?

Warren also decided to press his proposal to have an emergency fund to care for orphans, and decided to give them a heads up, but he was only able to reach Obama with that question, partly because McCain arrived late, Ross says, at around 5:20 pm Pacific.

"So it was a level playing field except Obama had the extra Intel of that question," Ross says.

Ross demurred when asked if it bothers him or Pastor Warren that the McCain campaign has so far refused to say no one told the senator about the questions Obama was asked, though he did note that "the language the McCain campaign used" in its conversations with Saddleback officials was that he didn’t hear or see the broadcast itself.

User Comments

and what does this have to do with Obama’s pitiful performance? Last time it was ABC News’ fault. Never Obama’s fault he cannot answer questions without a script.

Posted by: geevill | August 18, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

It really doesnt look like McCain did all that well with the questions, except that he had a very sympathetic audience. I believe him.

Posted by: Mike | August 18, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

But Warren said he didn’t know McCain was not in the building when he started. But now he says he didn’t give him the orphan question because he was late.
Did he know or did he not know McCain was not in the cone of silence ?

Posted by: Pamela | August 18, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Good question Pamela.
Looks like the web of lies is starting to unravel.
“Depends on what the meaning of the word “hear” is.” – McCain campaign

Posted by: Nobody's fool | August 18, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

This non-issue provides perfect cover for you MSM’ers not to report about Obama admitting he lied about his abortion votes.
How convenient.

Posted by: p0s3r | August 18, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Wow, just wow. So we definitely know now that Obama knew he would be asked the “3 wisest people” question – and wifey and grandma were really his best answers?
And we also know that he knew there would be an orphans question and McCain didn’t. No problem there, as McCain really shone when telling how Cindy brought their adopted Bangladeshi daughter home. What a wonderful example of Christian love and caring.
There is no contest between these two men and their two wives. That’s what’s eating Obama supporters. Keep slinging your accusations; it won’t improve Obama’s poor performance. For someone who just returned from vacation, he sure looked dazed and confused when compared to McCain. I don’t think he’s up to the rigors of the presidency.

Posted by: marylou | August 18, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Can some please do a report on how Obama lied in the forum on faith yesterday when he said that abortions have gone up under President Bush, they have not . USA today did a story on Jan 18 2008 the headline” Overall abortions rates continue to drop the lowest in the last 30 years, and the article going to show statics from non partisan groups that the abortion rate has been going down each year for the last 8 years. I sorry I feel passionate about this but Obama always adds facts with fictions to make a point and the media never calls him on it, like his hardest decision was the Iraq war, please how does doing a speech at some anti war rally in his liberal district count as a hard decision when he wasn’t even in the senate and by the time he came to the senate 3 years later he was voting for every funding bill for the war the press just lets him get away with these half truths and up right lies.

Posted by: sam | August 18, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

Candidates are always running late. I’m sure McCain never dreamt that his integrity would be called into question over a question-and-answer forum. Welcome to the “new Washington politics” John – where anytime Obama stumbles it’s somebody else’s fault! Can you imagine 4 years of coddling this tender ego?

Posted by: marylou | August 18, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

OBAMA WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT WINERS DONT BECOME PRESIDENT

Posted by: natale from mass. | August 18, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

” Never Obama’s fault he cannot answer questions without a script.”
This repetitive accusations at others for Obama’s own suks is getting old. It’s beginning to feel like the Clinton years, the more they attack McCain with pettiness, the more entrenched his support gets, the more widespread it becomes.

Posted by: hype bites | August 18, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

The MSM is trying to change the subject from Obama’s severe whipping on Saturday night. so Obama supporters anow agree that McCain trounced Obama. There was no complaint when Obama copied answers from Clinton.
Please someone ask Obama why Michelle is so wise? Was it her decision to attend Wright’s church?Her thesis on being black?

Posted by: geevill | August 18, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Isn’t it obvious that the McCain campaign broke the cone of silence and deliberately made Barack Obama sound terrible at Saddleback?
Only losers accuse their opponents of cheating, so I guess that means the Obama campaign understands that Obama lsot.

Posted by: OxyCon | August 18, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

This is a ridiculous sideshow. More important is that the two politicians were asked different questions, and then the public was invited to compare the answers.

Posted by: Mike | August 18, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

At the beginning of McCain’s presentation, he joked about the cone of silence room and trying to listen against the walls. Warren shared the laugh with him. That was a lie. It doesn’t matter who won or lost or tied, a lie, is a lie, is a lie.

Posted by: JL | August 18, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

For some bizarre reason, the Obama camp seems to think all the distractions they are creating will fool the American voters. They are the most conniving, manipulative bunch of phonies I have ever experienced in a campaign, and I have been following politics for 40 years. Obama is a fraud, and he can no longer pull the wool over America’s eyes. His smoke and mirrors routine is not working. He is not ready to be President of the USA. He is dropping in all polls like a rock. After three debates with McCain, he will be history.

Posted by: Jay | August 18, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

McCain didn’t need the questions in advance because he has an uncanny ability to adopt whichever answers his current audience wants to hear. Earlier this year he flip-flopped on gay adoption within a matter of hours. He’s done the same with overturning Roe v. Wade. Plus he steals stories like the “cross in the sand” story he ripped off from a Russian author, but now he tells as his own with a tear in his eye. The guy is an incredible fraud.

Posted by: Seamus | August 18, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

1. When was the coin toss?
2. It is about integrity. McCain was to be in the “cone of silence” by the time the forum started and he wasn’t. Warren said he was.
Obama did not lose. He answered the questions thoughtfully and honestly and didn’t pander.
His answer that it is above his pay grade to decide on which actions are sins and which sinful actions are forgiveable is the true Christian answer. God will decide on whether McCain can be forgiven for the deaths that have occured by the invasion of Iraq are forgivable. I don’t think he will get a free pass because he was a “prisoner of war”.

Posted by: lynn | August 18, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

Boy, what’s really scarey that I come away with, over all this is OBAMA KNEW HE WOULD BE ASKED THE 3 WISEST PEOPLE HE KNOWS? Wow….his circle is so small.
This was not a calculus test, people. This was two candidates, who ought to know who they are and where they stand. They were being asked questions about THEMSELVES. This is so silly.
McCAIN WON HANDS DOWN, CAMP OBAMA SORE LOSERS. CRITICS AND PUNDITS AND SOME WITHIN HIS OWN PARTY AGREE.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Ask yourself, does McCain need to lie or cheat on answers that have been his clear opinion since this whole circus began? Maybe he actually wondered if he would be asked about abortion, gays, and the supreme court. Anybody that even entertains the thought is a fool and a joke.

Posted by: Dan | August 18, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Settle the matter once and for all. Let Obama debate McCain 1 on 1 in a town hall forum. Or, is Obama the coward I think he is? That is, is he afraid he’ll expose his ignorance in an open debate?

Posted by: Martin Slueg | August 18, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Even Obama supporters are saying Obama’s response to abortion was poor….funny it’s the ONLY thing I agreed with him on .
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Did anyone else wonder how Mc Cain could answer a question without hearing the whole question from the Pastor about education. McCain answered yes, yes and no. period. PM

Posted by: PM | August 18, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

It is not that Obama won or lost. The questions, which McCain will not answer is if he was privy to questions prior to the event. That question has not been answered by the candidate himself. That is called plausible deniability. It just goes to honesty and integrity. Something the republicans know nothing about.

Posted by: William | August 18, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

marylou you rock….I agree with you 100%!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

McCain did not come on stage and offer apologies for being late. Instead he laughed about sitting in the Cone of Silence. Maybe I’m wrong but isn’t that a lie? Check the transcripts.

Posted by: JL | August 18, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Seems easy enough…so what’s the BIGGEST QUESTION of all..omni-present…attiudes need to excist..??..this stuff really has too much FRINGE.

Posted by: Mark S. M. | August 18, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

I can see it now when Putin kicks Bamas butt he will claim it was a false start, “no fair!! Do over Vlad!!”.

Posted by: Dan | August 18, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Christian Broadcast Network’s David Brody:
“The fact that Barack Obama would show up at an Evangelical Church and take the tough questions is a credit to him. I mean he knew he was the visiting team so to speak yet he handled these questions like he has in the past: with relative ease [...] Overall the night was a success for Obama. He didn’t get put on the spot too much with the abortion questions. He handled the “Jesus” question about his faith with ease and maybe most important he looked comfortable up there.”
McCain cheated because he knows if he loses even 5% of the evangelicals, he loses the election. Well, despite his pandering and fake stories about crosses in the dirt, he’s going to lose much more than 5% to the real Christian, Obama.

Posted by: Seamus | August 18, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Bill: Obama by all rights should be ahead by 15-20 points by now. a 1-3% margin is statistically a dead heat. Why had Obama not been able to put McCain away. It’s because Obama is losing his base by his constant re inventing himself and his policies. He will never win in the general

Posted by: Jay | August 18, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Pretty clear Obama is not ready for prime time.

Posted by: Five Uhoh | August 18, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

The pre-scripted spinning arguments from the right sound almost as canned and dysingenuous as McCain did last night.
“McCain didn’t need to cheat so accusing him of cheating is stupid” – NOT A RATIONAL ARGUMENT
As for Obama dropping like a stone after three debates – thats an interesting one. I don’t know the answer to this as I think that very few people watch debates with an open mind. Hell, People said George Bush performed well in his debate series and he was objectively uninformed, linguistically and geographically challenged, and showed no capacity to put together an independent coherent rational thought yet everyone applauded that he was folksy. Who knows, McCain may do very well. Perosnally, I think he’s going to get whipped but thats only if you evaluate the candidates by rational standards.

Posted by: JohnGalt9 | August 18, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

It appears that many here are unable to look beyond their partisan bent long enough to face the underlying matter: the rules. McCain had opportunity, that he may or may not have taken, to have an unfair advantage without consequence, and with all of his camp’s complaining about the media they have confirmed this. He had the opportunity to see the test early and get some of Obama’s answers.
If McCain is running on honor, than the mere appearance of impropriety is bad enough. But he compounds his folly by so forcefully attacking those who are pointing out the truth that he himself isn’t denying: he was not in a “cone of silence”, he was in transit.

Posted by: Eric | August 18, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

According to the transcripts, McCain and Warren joked about his sitting in the room. Why did they find it necessary to mislead the audience?

Posted by: JL | August 18, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

This is really pathetic. All the whining from the Obama camp is drawing more attention to Barack’s less than inspiring performance. Why don’t they just shut up and hope it will all be forgotten once he gets back in front of the teleprompter next week?

Posted by: Nancy | August 18, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Prime time? He needs to go back to community organizing!!

Posted by: Dan | August 18, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

A black liberal freshman senator should be up 15 points on the most revered man in politics since Reagan? That’s a strange conclusion, Jay. But as I said, once McCain actually has to take a position and stand by it, instead of telling each audience exactly what it wants to hear, McCain’s ceiling will drop from 45 to 40. I’ve yet to hear one major position McCain hasn’t flip-flopped on.

Posted by: Bill | August 18, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Sam, You’re wrong. Just ask anyone at planned parenthood. Abortions are at an all time high. And that is under an administration that wants to repeal Roe v Wade.

Posted by: William | August 18, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Hello Jake,
If you look at the questions both candidates were asked there were considerable differences…Pastor Warren said at the beginning the questions would be identical…can you get an answer from Pastor Warren about the discrepancy?

Posted by: jonore | August 18, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Obama is an egit for agreeing to do this ridiculous forum in the first place with that chubby Pastor. How did he expect Republicans to ever play fair? Both candidates should have arrived at the same time, just like Clinton and Obama did at a similar forum during the Primary. What a joke. So McCain’s camp expects us to believe that they had a chance to cheat, but chose not to?

Posted by: Kevin | August 18, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

I guess this should have been like a game show and the camera should have shown McCain in a glass booth for the hour. My Lord this is grade school. McCain was in a room, there was “a wall he tried to listen through” and they both had an idea of what questions would be asked. I’m just wondering why Obama didn’t add Oprah or Rev. Wright to his list of “wisest people”.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

This makes me angry…no, furious. Why is this even an issue? It is so silly. Obama screws up, so his campaingn, and now the media, is all over it as there had to be a reason. Take note…..whether or not McCain had the questions, it doesn’t matter…Obama screwed up on his own. His stupid answers stand alone.
And how come you are not being fair? Why don’t you report on Obama UNFAIRLY handing out booklets to all the SAddleback attendees on his “Christian Journey”????? Talk about unfair influence, this is ridiculous! Stop the Bias, it is so obvious!

Posted by: decentAmerican | August 18, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

They should never have started the program before McCain was in the secure room. McCain himself may not have listened to the program in the motorcade but one of his aides could have. That person would have had plenty of time to brief McCain on what to expect or prompted him to answer some of the questions the way he did. McCain seemed more than ready and eager with his canned responses. Do not put anything beyond politicians. They will do anything to get elected.

Posted by: worldsam | August 18, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

Eric you’re right. Republicans cannot see how unfair this forum was. McCain was supposed to be sequestered. instead he was sittign in his limo with access to the entire bloody questions. That is the point of this matter. I blame the Pator for this, not McCain. Obama is also foolish for trusting amateurs to handle this event.

Posted by: Kevin | August 18, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

The best part about this whole debate thing is that while the focus was on winning the support of the religious right… the reality is that the religious right for the first time in a while – don’t have a candidate in the race!
McCain is not a great candidate but he’s no Huckleberry and Obama while not as morally bankrupt as Clinton is still socially moderate. I’m supporting Obama but wouldn’t mind seeing McCain win, there are advantages to having the executive branch and the legislative branch under separate political umbrellas.

Posted by: JohnGalt9 | August 18, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

Considering a President-I think we have already had most situation come up w/answers…American history has solid relations in the domestic and international topics…it does seem possible that Sen. Obama is looking for “something” that NOT THERE…which should come along as history…instead Sen. McCain offers his alligiance alongside the latest issues…between haveing history and religion…we seem too also find room for VACUMN-politics that really hold subject matter in the middle of the air…//…it can be considered a style or a tactic…in my looking at each TALK…but Senator Barack Obama seems to release too much TACTIC..never really having STYLE…and that seems energy level that will inhabit the WhiteHouse.[end]

Posted by: Mark S. M. | August 18, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

I thought Obama’s answers were very thoughtful, forthright and honest. He didn’t answer with a “kneejerk” response the way McCain did – to pander to the audience. And McCain’s most influential person ever is “General Petraeus”??? How long as McCain known Petraeus? He has only been in charge of the War for the past year or so. Who was McCain’s biggest influence before Petraeus came on the scene. Talk about pandering. An honest answer is to mention someone close to your heart, a spouse, a relative, parent, teacher. Someone who changed your life for the better. But, McCain answers “General Petraeus”. He has got to get over this military thing!! Surge, bomb, war, “chase Bin laden to the gates of Hell”. Get a grip, McCain, not everything is about War, War, War!!!

Posted by: geecee | August 18, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

worldsam you’re also right. They should have done it like the faith forum during the Democratic primary. Both candidates were in the room together. They sequestered Hillary in a room during Obama’s interview and then did the same to Obama later. Trusting McCain to not listen to the question while sitting in his limo is absolute lunacy.

Posted by: Kevin | August 18, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

This “outrage” of the unfairness of the foram that happened this past weekend, that the Obama camp has claimed that McCain recieved an unfair advantage, that made Obama look STUPID! Obama is an empty suit,it’s a sad commentary that his supporters have taken such a propaganda assault to convince the votors that he (Obama} has been seen as the incompetent stooge he really is

Posted by: ray sternberg | August 18, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Obama supporters raised this issue not because he “screwed up,” (to the contrary, by all accounts he did very well), but rather because, for the first time in years, McCain was coherent. Personally I think the bigger story is that McCain ripped off his supposed pivotal moment of faith, the cross in the dirt, from a Russian author, and never mentioned it until 2000, coincidentally, the first time he ran for president.

Posted by: Seamus | August 18, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Rick Warren…..
“How was it like in the CONE OF SILENCE ”
John McCain….
“I tried to put my head against the wall to see if I could hear any of the answers” Laugh Laugh
It’s not the deed … it’s the cover up…. Why is the McCain camp all riled up ? He cheated.
Why wasn’t his answer ” You know Rick… I have to be honest.. I got here late and didn’t make it to the CONE OF SILENCE when I needed to be, but I didn’t hear anything.

Posted by: Ron | August 18, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

The accusation that McCain for some reason cheated to get the questions before he got on stage is laughable. The questions asked were not unusual. They were on topics talked about everyday in this campaign. Any candidate should be prepared to answer those types of questions at any time. Both of these candidates knew what the questions were likely to be. DUH!! To suggest the need for a candidate to cheat is rediculous. To suggest otherwise is just not credible. The Obama people are losing credibility daily. They better be careful or they will lose the election.

Posted by: Deborah | August 18, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Obama was talkative, so it would be funny if he chose VP-Bayh, who they say talk alot.
Anyway, in between the aah- and ohh-sounds Obama gave answers far weaker than the responses given by McCain. The Obama campaign knows it, which is why they first tried to say he cheated. Then Obama’s people continues today by attacking McCain stronger than usual to divert attention from the post-Saddleback analysis.
Did Obama loose first semi-meeting with McCain. You bet!

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | August 18, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Something tells me me haven’t heard the last of this issue. I believe that McCain got those questions during that ride and was coached. I believe that information, soon enough, will be without dispute. Not that it will matter much since McCain is the new teflon don.

Posted by: Kevin | August 18, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

I don’t know what McCain saw, heard, read or was told but Warren gave the impression that McCain was there for the whole thing not leaving his hotel when it started.
It makes for lots of questions that didn’t need to happen.

Posted by: Mr. Coffee | August 18, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

Lets have a do over and then pretend that Barry did really well. Okay?

Posted by: Mack | August 18, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

The candidates will not need a cone of silence when they come to attend my debate at the church of reason and they can both hear the first question in advance…
“Will you pledge right now, to the American people, that you will make decisions in office that are based on a rational analysis of the available data, as guided by your experienced and proven advisory teams, without any influence by faith or personal religious beliefs…” Are you willing to make that commitment???

Posted by: JohnGalt9 | August 18, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

The religious right will not vote Obama. Really….especially when looking at his religious background and the 20 years with Wrigth at Trinity. Really I give him credit for going in front of this group though, knowing he may only get a few votes.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

Funny its not a big deal when it takes four tries for Obama to come up with a coherant opinion about the Georgia conflict. Russians invade Georgia and Obama says both sides need to exercise restraint. Is this what he would do when someone invades the US? Maybe show restraint while US citezens are being shot in the streets? This guy is a pathetic loser!!

Posted by: Dan | August 18, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

The point is clear, Mc Cain did better than Moses Obama period. Since his camp sensed it now they want to call it foul play, come on !There is nothing worse than a poor looser and Obama sure is.He knows that sooner than later Mc cain is going to find the thin crust and break his wall of protection he has enjoyed so far.With his experience Obama probably qualify to be San Francisco Mayor as a lucky 2nd and that is the true, hoooahhh!

Posted by: Frank | August 18, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Mr Coffee, so that cannot happen twice or more? Should the Russians ignore Obamas white flag when he raises it based on that thought?

Posted by: Dan | August 18, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

This was totally McCain’s home turf. You could tell by the tears welling up in his eyes, as he spoke of his god and country and WAR.
What a fake!
No questions on the countless deaths in Iraq based on the immoral lies spewed forth by Bush and now perpetuated by McCain. No questions on the perceived weakened US military as a result emboldening Russia to invade Georgia.
But my goodness they all stand in their glorious halos, and myopic self-annointed sainthood spewing questions on abortion.
What hippocracy!

Posted by: Newsrook | August 18, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Dan georgia attacked first
but then again countries dont invade other countries in the 21st century isnt that right?

Posted by: bhrandon | August 18, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Republican presidential candidate John McCain cites three absurd-sounding examples of pork-barrel spending in a recent ad: a “bridge to nowhere,” a study of the DNA of bears and a Woodstock museum.
McCain is known for fighting against earmarks, the other term lawmakers use for funding of pet projects back home. But he appears to have chosen these three because they’re easy to mock, not because he had significant involvement in removing them from the budget.
Despite the fun McCain had ridiculing the bear project on the Senate floor, he didn’t actually try to remove it from the bill. He did introduce several amendments, including three to reduce funding for projects he considered wasteful or harmful, but none removing the grizzly bear project appropriations. And despite his criticisms, he voted in favor of the final bill.

Posted by: bhrandon | August 18, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Tell Obama to go on stage with McCain at the same time and debate him one-on-one.
Obama is afraid to debate anyone.
Hillary cleaned his clock every time she debated him – Obama suffered in the polls after debating Hillary. He refused to debate her before the last primaries.
The Obama people are already in a panic. Obama-burn-out has arrived.

Posted by: Sally J. | August 18, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Seems like a ‘town hall’ type debate with unannounced questions from the audience would be a good way to avoid such controversies. Oh yeah – Obama won’t do those.

Posted by: Ronnie Wrangler | August 18, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Obama Campaign should be very careful of the backlash from all this bad sportsmanship over Obama’s lackluster performance (again). I hope they’re preparing their excuses for the three debates coming up…..who will they cry foul over next?
McCAIN ALL THE WAY!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

bhrandon – Georgia attacked Georgia, what would happen if Mexico attacked California for trying to put down a revolt? Either way Russia was attacking a sovereign nation. As far as the attacking other countries question as a whole the answer would be no, unless you had like 14 UN mandates and a majority support from the goverment and its citizens.

Posted by: Dan | August 18, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

The NYT is saying each got the questions in advance. Saddleback Sham courtesy Rick Warren.

Posted by: kravitz | August 18, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

McCain just doesn’t do well as a speaker. His supporters will be sorely disapointed when he has the debates with Obama – who is so much more intelligent than McCain. It’s going to look sad for McCain indeed. Obama did pretty well Saturday evening under the circumstances. The people in that audience have already made up their minds (assuming they have one, that is) to vote McCain. Vote Pro-Life McCain (you mean the same guy who wants to surge, go to War, kill, bomb??) That Pro-Lifer??

Posted by: geecee | August 18, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

Let us assume McCain got all the questions asked in the first 20 minutes since he arrived at 5:20PM and he was locked after that in a room with no signal. How come he was straight talk express for all the questions.
Now Does Lord Obama team is going to blame Pastor Rick Warren by saying that he leaked all the questions to McCain.
Obama learned to blame always. Accept defeat. Accept he lacks experience and Judgement.
Obama supporters wil blame Clinton/Racism/Sexism/Media/Warren on the night on Nov-4 after loosing. Mark my words.

Posted by: tom | August 18, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

McCain cheated people get over it!!

Posted by: Railman | August 18, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

If his campaign could have cheated, then they did cheat. Simple as that. They’re Republicans, for god’s sake! There is no sense of fairness and honor among them when it comes to politics.

Posted by: DaveM | August 18, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Ronnie Wrangler….actually Obama had a town hall today in NM. Seems he needs to take his leads from McCain, except McCain has been working his tail off for months on his town halls. Mr. Rock Star sees that after his tour abroad, the large crowd thing isn’t working for him anymore…maybe backfiring (especially when you have to organize a free concert BEFORE Obama speaks, as they did in Germany). Certainly, the polls gave him NO BUMP upon returning from his travelling salvation show.
McCAIN ALL THE WAY!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Get this straight…..you know FULL well that had Obama gone second, that his kronies would have been texting him the questions (and answers, since Obama can’t say anything of significance on his own if his life depended on it) like crazy.
STOP THE SOUR GRAPES. Obama lost, he gave stupid answers, this is a silly issue. Why not focus on the more important topic about that forum: how Obama ignorantly attacked Justice Thomas, and how EVERYONE saw how he was going to say Thomas was “inexperienced”, and then changed it last second. It was SOOOO OBVIOUS, the nerve of this little cry baby, Obama.

Posted by: decentAmerican | August 18, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Meg Whitman of E Bay——Your Damn right McCain knew the questions via Text

Posted by: minerva1922 | August 18, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

“the campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., has assured the organizers”
Isn’t their honesty the question here? What you bet this is another of those neo-con letter of the truth things. McCain didn’t WATCH Obama answer, NO, he had someone else watch and tell him the answers instead.

Posted by: JR | August 18, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Considering McCain probably had someone giving him the questions ahead of time, I’d say Obama clearly came out on top.

Posted by: Jim Bob | August 18, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

This is the usual victim mentality of Obama. Nothing is every Precious’ fault; it is always something or somebody else. He can do no wrong. How many people has he thrown under the bus now, to blame for his own imperfections? Pretty crowded under there!

Posted by: decentAmerican | August 18, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

I love how Obama stated his toughest decision was to note vote for the war in Iraq. Funny he was still a STATE senator at the time the war was voted on and he was not there to vote on it. Then he said his greatest bi-partisn effort was working on the ethics bill with McCain. Fact is he abandoned McCain to work on a weaker democratic ethics bill within one week.

Posted by: Dan | August 18, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

The Clarance Thomas comment was really the “pot calling the kettle black”, was it not?

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

“you know FULL well that had Obama gone second, that his kronies would have been texting him the questions”
This is supposed to justify McCain’s dishonesty? It sounds a lot like a 4 year old saying, “everbody else is doing it, why can’t I”, I thought McCain was supposed to be adult, but then his ads lately show him to be childish.

Posted by: JR | August 18, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Yes, keep propping up the empty-suit. Hillary is laughing somewhere.

Posted by: Mack | August 18, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

McCain must have known the answers way way way in advance if you’re going to critisize his Meg Whitman choice. He must have known about this whole thing when he chose her as one of his advisors A LONG TIME AGO. jeez. Get a clue.

Posted by: Kitty | August 18, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

Thanks Dan (at 4:43). I knew BO couldn’t even vote on Iraq, but didn’t know about the bill he bailed out on with McCain.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Why, of course there had to be some form of cheating because the messiah is the best orator……….
Folks, it was not the questions it was the style of the answers. Obama had a nuance style that does not sell well. It is his own fault for the poor performance.
McCain gave the same answers he has given in hundreds of townhall meetings.

Posted by: donbl | August 18, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

I liked the way McCain danced around his little moral indescrection. The one where he had his affair while still married. He’s got that answer down pat.

Posted by: Jim Bob | August 18, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Bottom line when he was asked about how it was in the cone of silence he should have said I got here a little late so it wasnt that bad…Anything else is a LIE.
Other than that I can believe that he didnt know the questions from his answers…It was all the same stuff he says all the time in all his stump speeches…War War War POW War war Drill now War war War Iraq War war war Georgia War War War Russia War War war

Posted by: Beka | August 18, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

CHAOS , No, counter to what the McCain people are saying here, most every national commentator called it a tie.

Posted by: JR | August 18, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

-a lie, is a lie, is a lie-
yes, that is exactly how to categorize obama’s response to the abortion question.
Barry, the quintessential prevaricator.

Posted by: hype bites | August 18, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

McCain is a cheat and a liar. He should just come clean NOW and save his campaign the shame.

Posted by: Kevin | August 18, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Rev Wright was Obama’s spiritual advisor for 20 years but didn’t name him as one of the wisest people in his life. Sad.
Or what about Father Pfleger who Obama said was his moral compass for 20 years?
Or communist Frank Davis who was Obama’s mentor when he was growing up.

Posted by: riley | August 18, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

Mcain is a liar and a fraud he lied lied shame on you mccain you are a big phony fraud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: angie | August 18, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

You have one man who has lived a life of exemplary moral conduct, who dedicated his life to public service and has always been faithful to his family.
And you have another man who changes his religious denomination based on political expediency and who, at 42 years of age, left his injured wife for a 25 year old coed heiress.
True Christians know the correct choice in this election.

Posted by: ferplexion | August 18, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

Does it matter that Obama was courageously honest and insightful when he pointed out that Clarence Thomas was a poor choice for the Supreme Court? Thomas has contributed almost nothing of substance since being appointed. I don’t think he’s written a single opinion. He points to Scalia and says “what he said”.

Posted by: JohnGalt9 | August 18, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

hypothetically speaking, let’s say McCain did receive the Warren questions in advance or overheard Obama’s answers while waiting in the Green Room.
my question is, how did this make Obama come across so poorly that night????
he’s responsible for his own actions. the story you are shopping is just a red-herring issue. Obama answered the questions evasively because he IS evasive.

Posted by: Doug | August 18, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

I thought McCain answer on abortion told much, his opinion that human rights attach to a fetus at conception doesn’t say what to do when there’s a conflict with the woman’s right. He feels that a woman LOSES her rights the moment she has sex and conceives.
I don’t agree.

Posted by: Kathy | August 18, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

It has been reported today that McCain was not in the room he was supposed to be in but was in his motorcade on the way to the forum so who’s to say that he did not hear the questions I’m sure that he did hear.Then he acted like he was in the room.McCain answered the questions to quickly to say that he did not hear anyhting.He thought he was being funny when he was asked about bad teachers by saying fire them.That is why he got into the Naval Academy with the grade point average as low as his.We should be glad that he is not a teacher because his students would be forever correcting him.He was faking his answer about his leaving his wife.

Posted by: damehen | August 18, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

Excuses as to why Obama was overwhelmed by McCain’s performance. It separated a man from a boy. If I have to hear one more time about Obama’s community organizing I think I am going to throw up. He has not done much, so he has little to talk about.
Empty suit Barry.

Posted by: paul | August 18, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

McCain has probably been asked these same questions many times before. He has been in politics for 30+ years and these questions were not that different. This is also why Hillary always did so much better than Obama in debates. The difference is that Obama is an equivocator and inexperienced. He isn’t decisive and, apparently, not much of a leader. It just shows how poor a candidate he truly is. I can’t believe that because Obama did so poorly compared to McCain, Obama’s campaign is saying that McCain cheated. What rotten losers and what a shame!

Posted by: Susan | August 18, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

Wow…Wright, Pfleger, Trinity, Granny, Hillary, bible clinging-gun toting people, now Rick Warren….how many can fit under the bus? There’s room for Michelle, if they ever give her permission to stump for hubby again and she misspeaks. IF OBAMA WOULD JUST TRY A LITTLE HUMILITY AND NOT GET SO DEFENSIVE ABOUT HIS INADAQUICIES. Confidence and arrogance are two different things…McCain’s one and Obama is the other.
McCAIN ’08!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

-most every national commentator called it a tie.-
national commentator, the equivalent of a movie, art, etc. critic. Who listens to them? Oh, of course, this exempts the gang at MSNBC, Matthews, Ob-lie, Shuster & co., now there is fine crowd of objective truth tellers.

Posted by: hype bites | August 18, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Obama called people liars about his infanticide vote in the Senate.
Now his campaign admits Obama was the one that “misrepresented” himself.
His abortion stance is radical–and now everyone will know how he tried to hide it.

Posted by: cindy in nc | August 18, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

You’re equating thoughtful with evasive. Not all moral discussions are black and white despite what Bush and McCain would have you think. Pro Choice/Pro Life… Stem cells, Definition of Marriage… these are difficult and personal issues for a pluralistic society and to expect one word answers that are thoughtful and respectful is inane and naive.

Posted by: JohnGalt9 | August 18, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Did you hear Obama when asked when he thought life begins? He said the answer to that “is above my pay grade.” Have you EVER heard of such flippant nonsense in your life? Personally, I do not think any candidate should have to talk about his personal religioius beliefs in a public forum. What every happened to church and state and so forth? However, like it or not, if the candidates do not answer questions according to what the evangelicals want to hear, they have no hope of getting elected to the highest office in the land. That’s just the way it is in this country today and it disgusts me. I do not care what religion – if any at all, a candiate is. Just because he is a Christian does not automatically qualify the person to be POTUS. I would vote for a man who is good, patriotic, has the country’s interests at heart and is qualified. Having said that, Obama’s answer is not only typical of him – flippant, it also shows him mastering the “I’ll say whatever you want” stance to pander to voters. At least John McCain – agree with him or disagree, said what he thinks regarding life beginning at conception. That won’t win a lot of the liberals, but it sure will please the evangelicals. For the record, I am not a monotheist, but I also belief that’s when life begins. Of course, I am not running for office. It’s just a shame that all the candidates throughout history have to prostitute themselves to the evangelicals and answer questions posed to them by a Christian pastor. I don’t see a Rabbi asking them their beliefs. It really is the Spanish Inquisition all over again. Just bring on the thumb screws! News flash, evangelicals: Just because you box in the candidates and blackmail them with your votes does, does not make them truthful when it comes to what they are saying, or what they feel in their heart across the board. Try to recognize that they are just human beings, not saints or men of the cloth. They are not campaigning to run a large church, but are trying to get elected president. The government is secular, not Christian, and that’s the way it should remain. Keep your desires to have “one of your own” in the pulpit.

Posted by: Lisa Again | August 18, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Since McCain’s answers were nothing more than the usual “things people want to here” and Obama spoke the truth, I give the event to Obama.

Posted by: JR | August 18, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

This is so typical of the Obama campaign. Now everyone is a liar because Obama is a poor candidate when it comes to details. If McCain cheated, he has some powerful memory and I’d like to have it. Everyone is acting like those questions were difficult. They weren’t difficult to answer for someone who is experienced, decisive and a leader. How absurd the losers are being. Many of us democrats knew all along that there was no substance to Obama. Get real!!

Posted by: susan | August 18, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

RICK WARREN LIED TO EVERYONE!
EVERYBODY.
Who Knew What When? By Katharine Q. Seelye
“Mr. Warren did not share with his audience — of more than 2,200 in the church and millions watching and listening to the live television broadcasts, radio programs and streaming on the Internet — that he had alerted the candidates to any of the questions in advance.”
Which I guess means he will vote for the adulterer who uses his being a POW as the reason for deserting his sick wife who stood by him.
RICK WARREN IS A TYPICAL LYING SUPERWEALTHY MEGACHURCH PASTOR.

Posted by: kravitz | August 18, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

This is a total non-issue. McCain slammed Obama in the questions hands down. Obama’s campaign is out of action and dead in the water while McCain can only soar upward. NBC news anchor Andrea Mitchell in a desperate bid to salvage her candidate was willing to make an unsubstantiated accusation and it backfired on her and the desperate Obama campaign. Maybe she can get a job at the DNC.

Posted by: Back From Iraq | August 18, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

I watched the whole thing and something was absolutely a little fishy. Like when McCain answered a three part question only after the first part was asked…
So if I “text” a candidate the question, it is okay since it is still in silence?
How can you people defend this man…

Posted by: Suggestion | August 18, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

Susan – its ok – Hillary lost – we sympathize – get over it.

Posted by: JohnGalt9 | August 18, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

WHO CARES?
All that’s important is that Obama is an empty suit who can’t think withoug coaching from his handlers. 300 advisers and he still can’t get things right.
Stll, those who like a diet of BS continue with the feast!

Posted by: Martin Slueg | August 18, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

HAS ANYBODY AS UNQUALIFIED AND INEXPERIENCED AS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA EVER RUN FOR PRESIDENT BEFORE, and was Geraldine Ferraro right when referring to his luck having to do with his ethnicity? I can’t wait for the debates and Obama has to really pull it off with only 3 appearances with Sen. McCain (at Obama’s agreement, since he can’t handle more than that). Poor boy…McCain always appears to have more energy than Obama.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

When asked who the 3 wisest people he knew and would seek advice from if elected president, Obama said his wife, his grandma and Ted Kennedy. Anyone who has ever done an interview knows that those are poor answers. It didn’t take a rocket scientist or a cheater for McCain to mention the people he did.
Why is it that all the democrats feel a need to cirle the wagons and protect their candidate when he fails to meet the challenge or makes a gaffe?

Posted by: Susan | August 18, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Each of the candidates had good moments and not so good moments.
To those who say Obama had a poor performance, I hope that is so because it wasn’t supposed to be a performance. It was to be a conversation.
For those who think McCain had a good performance–well, that’s probably what it was–a performance. Especially those “sentimental stories” designed to make us say “Ah gee”. And let’s not forget his moral failure of a failed marriage. That wasn’t a failed marriage–it was an adulterous dissolution of his marriage so he could replace his wife with someone else.

Posted by: Alyce | August 18, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

For all its worth, at least Obama can read a teleprompter. McCain is a bumbling idiot just like Bush. He can neither read nor talk plainly. Look what bumbling idots get us. War, debt, moral bankruptcy, corruption, low world image, division and the list goes on. I’m proud to have a man that can finally speak the english language represent me.

Posted by: William | August 18, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

McCain goes on stage is talks about sitting in the cone of silence and people are saying Obama misspoke. Sometimes a feel like I live in an alternative world where truth is a lie and lie is a truth.

Posted by: JL | August 18, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Martin Slueg , No, what’s important here is that McCain felt the need to cheat even before a “friendly” audience.

Posted by: JR | August 18, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

You may disagree with what McCain said, but you cannot deny that he clearly showed that he was decisive, had a sense of humor, has a past which has given him much insight, is experienced, etc. I wasn’t looking at how many people in the audience praised him or applauded his performance. Maybe that’s where the Obama supporters just don’t get it.

Posted by: Susan | August 18, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Has anyone ask mccain why he was not at the event before it started. Why would they announce he was in the cone of silence if he was not even there yet.

Posted by: jones63 | August 18, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

This is just one more reason that I will never vote for McCain.

Posted by: Lori | August 18, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

I love the comments on here that say
“now everyone will know Obama is a liar”
oy…
yeah the cone of silence covered the entire town…Mccain answers questions he hasn’t been asked but obama had been…and he may have changed or lifted another story to use his POW status for political gain yet tainting himself and the public in the meantime…
and Obama is the liar.
You people are a trip. Cone of silence…cone of cookoo is more like it.

Posted by: dl | August 18, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

Oh, I’m getting over it and, frankly, I’m very happy with the way things are turning out. If McCain selects a woman as his VP, I’ll be so over it.

Posted by: Susan | August 18, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

There are only two facts that we know of regarding the “cone of silence” issue:
1. We were told by Rev. Warren that McCain was in that “cone” at the time Obama was being questioned.
2. We know that McCain was not in that “cone” at the time Obama was being questioned.
What we don’t know, and should be told, is:
1. Why Warren was unaware (if he, in fact, he was) that McCain was not there;
2. Why McCain wasn’t there;
and since we know, for a fact, that McCain was not in the building during Obama’s Q&A;,
3. Did McCain or ANY of his campaign staff have access to the questions via cell phone, TV, or satellite radio, etc.
It is only fair that these questions be answered.

Posted by: lou | August 18, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

This has nothing to do with Obama’s “performance” (he did great, IMO). It goes to McCain’s credibility and “honor.” The fact that the McCain campaign is going ballistic and playing the POW card is very telling. That, and the non-denials. Obviously, McCain was quickly prepped on some snappy answers, for example on the education question, which he answered before Warren even finished asking (“Yes. Yes. And bad teachers should find another line of work.”)

Posted by: Ruth | August 18, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

JR – Probably you can back up your cheating assertion with facts? Or is this just another ineundo that liberals love to pretend is real.

Posted by: Martin Slueg | August 18, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

McCheat has done it again. At a time during the interview, McCheat seem to have pre-empted Pastor Warren when he said “I hope we will come to that issue………” refering to a question that had not yet been asked but was later asked by the pastor.

Posted by: Jayboz | August 18, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

If Pastor Rick Warren had any integrity, he would come out and declare John McCain morally unfit to be President for cheating the spirit of the process that Warren himself had put forth. That McCain would cheat in a religiously based forum in an attempt to gain a political advantage says far more about his moral character than any of the answers to any of the questions possibly could.

Posted by: sps91158 | August 18, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

We all know why the MSM is making this an issue. The Obama Campaign told them to make it one to provide cover for him.
And like the good lapdogs the MSM is, they’re all over it. I fully expect a 20 minute long “Speshul Komment” from KO tonight. Previewed of course on the dailykos.

Posted by: p0s3r | August 18, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Susan
That wasn’t the question that was asked, so why are you trying to pretend it was? Is this how smears are created?

Posted by: jock59801 | August 18, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

First, it wasn’t Obama’s supporters that pointed out that McCain was not in the “Cone”, it was observed by CNN when he arrived at the church while the event was in progress. All of these comments about who won and who lost are pointless, this was not a contest. It was supposed to allow us to learn about the faith and values of each man. The BIG question should be: why did the Pastor and Senator McCain feel it was so important for the viewers to believe he had been in a secure room backstage, when he had not been? Why did the Pastor announce this at the beginning when he know says he knew he wasn’t in the building? Why did John McCain make his jokes about listening at the walls and how hard the first two questions were, when the Pastor has now told the public that he had already told both candidates what the first two questions were going to be? WHY … in a church of all places, was there a need for such stage craft? I must say, as a Christian this bothers me deeply and I was also bothered that John McCain almost refused to talk about his belief in Christ. He just would not answer the question about how his Christian faith impacts his daily life and decisions; instead he told us 30 year old stories that we have all seen in his TV ads. In fact, if you look at the replay, I don’t think he used the name Jesus one time the entire hour.

Posted by: John | August 18, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

So sad that because Andrea Mitchell’s candidate did so poorly the mumblings amongst the Obama camp had to start a “we think McCain….” distraction. Why couldn’t they just accept their guy doesn’t have enough experience and this isn’t an ON THE JOB TRAINING KIND OF POSITION….CIC. Let a man (or Hillary) handle it and go back to the Senate to put in more than 143 days in your current job.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Who was it who first raised the issue that McCain was not in the “cone of silence”? I’m reading all these accusations have come from the Obama camp, but that’s not yet been demonstrated to me. The real issue is truthfulness and we know McCain misled the audience with his “joke” about listening at the wall. The issue is not who “won” or “lost” as that is in the eyes of the observers, but rather this whole issue revolves around honesty. Thus far, McCain is the one who has demonstrated he can’t be believed.

Posted by: ajp | August 18, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

There is a separation of church and state in our Constitution and there is a Biblical separation of Cesar and God in the Bible. So why is this nation so intent on removing the divide? I have an opinion – self righteousness that trumps bad government and excuses accountability which Evangelicals will leave up to God. Well I have one question then: will God forgive George W. Bush and John McCain for advocating a war of choice which was against the Constitution that prohibits attacking a soverign nation that has not attacked this one? When you can Biblically answer that question I’ll pay attention to kleig light mega church theatrics – until then I’ll decide on a President based on what they hope to do for the country – not how much they can increase the collection plate in some church somewhere because they were annointed. Neither of these candidates should have agreed to this nonsense – I am sure the answers would be completely different if the setting was the Mormon Tabernacle, a Jewish temple, a Mosque or on top of the mountain with some native American Indians in Utah. I haven’t found it in the Constitution yet that a man or woman has to be “born-again” or even a “church member” to be qualified to be President. But I do see where the person being sworn in swears to uphold the Constitution – now how about a question from the Evangelicals and/or Saddleback crowd: which is most important, upholding the Constitution or us telling you what the Constitution means to us?

Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | August 18, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Obama’s performance was really just ok and that’s the problem. He did not live up to the image his ardent supporters and the media have led us to believe.

Posted by: bct424 | August 18, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

I think it is disgusting that the media questions the integrity of Senator McCain because he did better in an environment…of people that shared his core values than Senator Obama. The media wants Obama to always win and when he doesn’t it is not his fault…somehow the fix must be in. The media is so in the bag for Obama. I find Andrea Mitchell’s lack of professionalism appalling.

Posted by: Kathy Corey | August 18, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

What’s with this whining? People run late sometimes! In and of itself that doesn’t mean something bad happened. Where did this idea that McCain cheated come from anyway? Oh, I see, someone has proof right? Oh, they don’t? Oh, but they have a pretty good idea.. right? Oh, they just base it on the fact that he answered better? Hmmmm… well THAT settles it! He must have cheated! Cuz no way Obama just had floundering answers and limited ideas. No, surely not. There always HAS to be some other reason. Give me a break! What happened to check your facts before you make an accusation?
There is a much simpler explanation for the difference between Obama’s performance and McCain’s performance. Obama has less than 2 years in the Senate for goodness sake! He voted “present” on the majority of his votes in the Senate. He has NO experience on ANYTHING other than being an Excellent speaker, and even with that he still fumbles around with too many oohs and uhhhs.
His hardest decision was the war? Give me a break! He wasn’t a senator at the time that the senate voted. He conveniently didn’t have to worry about the political fallout like Hillary and other senators did.
Obama is phony. New kind of politics indeed. Sounds like the same old ‘say the right talk’, ‘test the political wind’, ‘don’t commit to any position that might cost you votes’, and then ‘accuse the other side of cheating or maybe being racist or mean spirited if they question you’ kind of politics to me.

Posted by: JustCuzIDisagreeDoesn'tMakeMeRacist | August 18, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

I was a lifelong democrat until 2 months ago. I don’t like Bush-Cheney and I was opposed to the Iraq War before it started and I knew we were being manipulated by the administration and media to go to war. However, I am so angry at the DNC for their treatment of Hillary, for Pelosi (impeachment off the table), for Reid (the pro-life leader of the democratic majority in the senate), Dean and the DNC. I didn’t like the decisions about MI and FL and that someone who is so inexperienced and pretensious as Obama was nominated. Yes he is by misleading all those young people by pretending to be a different kind of politician when, in fact, he is a very tough, manipulative politician.

Posted by: susan | August 18, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

“..and he was objectively uninformed, linguistically and geographically challenged, and showed no capacity to put together an independent coherent rational thought yet everyone applauded..”
wowww, for a moment there I thought you were writing about Obama. Hillary had all the answers during the debates; has Obama been able to count the number of US states by now?; and he starts out OK and ends muddling his answers to the point you say, What?…and yet, his followers applaud him…amazing.

Posted by: hype bites | August 18, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

@JR
Which party is the party of speech codes? Which party wants to set my thermostat, ban my car, and tell me what to buy at the grocery store? Which party wants to assign special rights to me soley based upon the color of my skin, my genitalia, or who I choose to have sex with? Which party wants to make it illegal for me to defend my home when a burglar breaks in? Which party wants to confiscate my pay to give to someone else?
Which party is the party of freedom, and which isn’t?

Posted by: p0s3r | August 18, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

Everybody can tune in to CNN Larry King tonight and see Rick Warren answer questions. I really don’t think this guy would risk his credibility doing anything deceitful. So everyone take a breath and move on to something more important in a slow news week as everyone awaits Obama’s VP pick.
McCAIN ’08/HILLARY ’12

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

People really are cynical. I’m no fan of the pastor (don’t even know who he is), but why is it so hard to believe that he didn’t know McCain wasn’t there at the time he was questioning Obama? And given that McCain did get into the cone of silence, why is it a lie when he said his answer? And, given that McCain probably didn’t see what was happening on the stage, why would he have responded in any other manner than answering the question about the cone? Obama supporters are grasping at straws. It’s amusing and creepy.

Posted by: Kitty | August 18, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

So when those tough questions come in at 3 AM to the White House, will Obama ask them to call someone else because it’s “above his pay grade” to address difficult issues?
I don’t know Obama’s grandmother, but I hope she is alot wiser and saner than Ted Kennedy and Michelle Obama. Obama’s inexperience is scary.

Posted by: Dave | August 18, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Well, Presidential candidates are almost always behind schedule, and probably are not too keen on the idea of sitting in an empty room for an hour with nothing to do. I would say that is because their schedules are so full, except McCain usually doesn’t campaign on weekends.
For now I will give McCain the benefit of the doubt that he was honorable enough not to cheat.

Posted by: jock59801 | August 18, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

I watched the whole thing and something was absolutely a little fishy. Like when McCain answered a three part question only after the first part was asked…
So if I “text” a candidate the question, it is okay since it is still in silence?
How can you people defend this man…
Posted by: Suggestion
**************************************************
Looks like the cone of silence had a whole bunch of holes in
it.

Posted by: spacerook1 | August 18, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

If Obama had stolen a faith-themed story that occurred to someone else, say, a Nobel prize winning author, and claimed it had happened to him, the media would be in a frenzy.
McCain steals his “cross in the dirt” story from Solzhenitsyn’s book The Gulag Archipelago and not a peep from the media.

Posted by: TallyGirl. FL | August 18, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

I thought Obama was great…he definitely came across more thoughtful
and when you hold there answers up next to each other one by one…Obama kills it.
Evil was the best one though…Mccain “We will hunt him down to the gates of he11″
Obama…”we will confront evil…a lot of evil has been committted in the name of destroying evil” (you almost want to put a “see above” or see John mccain and D!ck Cheney’s answers…lol
and the “discussion” that Obama had was that of what our greatest Presidents would do…including reagan…not the simple cowboy declaratives that are so forceful from McCain…and reminiscent of the last 8 years…yuck..ugh…oof and OY.

Posted by: dl | August 18, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

If McCain was in the “cone of silence”; why did he ask Pastor Rick — when will he get to answer the question about the Supreme court justices — like Obama did? Hmmm!
If you don’t believe me, go back and review (watch) McCain’s portion of the interview. Somebody in McCain’s camp told him.

Posted by: Michelle | August 18, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

Rev. Warren got gamed by the McCain and has promoted a lie that McCain was in the building during Obamas interview. Will Rev. Warren admit his lie that he now spreads? Film at eleven, folks!!!!

Posted by: daddyblue | August 18, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

applause meter…….McCain was 3 to 1 Obama….not that applause in front of a crowd that is 80% for you would be hard to earn…but I found myself laughing and talking back to the TV and applauding……for SENATOR JOHN SYDNEY McCAIN, our 44th President!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

p0s3r
Since neither party says any of those things, I can’t answer your question.
As for freedom, since Obama thinks habeus corpus is a fundamental human right and McCain does not, I’m going with Obama.

Posted by: jock59801 | August 18, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

What? The ‘Cone of Silence’ didn’t work?
Oh the irony! It hurts!

Posted by: Agent 99 | August 18, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Rick warren was as surprised to find out McCain wasn’t in the church as everyone else…
did you all see the interview he did…
It’s not about Mccain doing better (well becaus ehe only did better for conservative cowboy diplomacy people who voted for Bush)
it is about this honesty thing…it’s getting crazy that this many flags are popping up….and when a news organization calls him on it (ever)
they have a tizzy and say the news organization is biased (yet the studies that have been done show the news media has been tougher on Obama than on McCain…now doesn’t that get yer goat)
oy…I hear a lot of whining…but unlike Mccain’s people saud…it ain’t coming from the American population…
it’s coming from Mccain’s campaign.

Posted by: dl | August 18, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Liberals always wanting to blame someone else when they do a lousy job. Obama sucked and Andrea Mitchel wants to say McCain cheated. Stupid, it must be the same way Bush manages to win everything when he is supposed to be so stupid!

Posted by: San | August 18, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Too many weren’t born or were too young to be interested or are just Republicans who want to forget the hearings of Justice Thomas and Ms. Hill – it would do the many well to read her book or review the tapes of the Republicans in action against a black woman who accused a nominee to the Supreme Court of improper action. The Coke Can remark (by a very, very prominent GOP Senator) should go down in history – a remark I think even the Evangelicals today would find repulsive. Ironically when Senator Obama (well schooled in law and the Constitution) points out the weaknesses of someone like Justice Thomas the GOP Evangelical recoils in dismay. How dare he do that? You know what Evangelicals? Since I have learned over a very long life that most in the church house really know very little about the Bible, I would suggest you know very little about Justice Thomas and certainly far less about the Thomas confirmation proceedings.

Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | August 18, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

With all this conspiracy nonsense, there are still some very important questions! I would like to know when Sen. Obama is going to explain his relationship with Frank Marshall Davis. Sen. Obama admits that Mr. Davis was an “influential person,” a friend and an adviser growing up in Hawaii. Yet, Mr. Davis was a propagandist, a racial agitator and a recruiter for the Communist Party USA during the 1970s in Hawaii. When will Sen. Obama throw Mr. Davis under the bus like he did with his “uncle”/ 20-year mentor, the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. and his spiritual adviser, Father Michael Pfleger?
You Obama supporters cry “guilt by association” whenever these individuals are brought up. But when Sen. Obama has been mentored and advised by these individuals for over half his life, it is impossible for there NOT to be some of their extreme views, at best, tucked away in his brain. At worst, he is harboring these views but is doing a good job of hiding them from the public in order to be elected to the office of President of the United States.

Posted by: James Danley | August 18, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Seriously you can see Rick Warren tonight on a Cable News Network (I tried to post before) with the number one ratings getter at that network and I highly doubt Rick Warren would be deceitful on any level…so check it out for yourself and then get back to pondering VP picks.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

For all its worth, at least Obama can read a teleprompter.
_____________________
Huh? Obama’s ability to READ a tele prompter makes you proud? Wow, you’re easy. Paris Hilton can read a tele prompter too. Obama may be able to read a script, buy he sure is inept when it comes to speaking one on one. It sounds worse than Bush kinda goes…Uh, um.uhhhhhhhh ooooh uh uh uh uh.

Posted by: BoneheadedObama | August 18, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

John Mccain is Phony… I could not help but notice how he kept looking across the room as he gave his answers. It was as though he was looking for approval.. Funny how generally when he is asked questions by the media he stumbles but this time he did just a “glowing job” yeah right!! The guy was prepared and he heard the questions. He was prep. The fact that he was not at the church raises credibility questions. Why should we the public believe anything the LIARS necons say.. they LIED to us about Iraq…

Posted by: Heidi | August 18, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

Lefties made a mistake (or about to) nominating Mr. Empty Suit. The day before Obama’s nomination speech McCain should talk about how great Obama “reads” a speech and challange him not to use a telepromter, hence when people watch his speech all they’ll be thinking about is that he is reading the words off a teleprompter.

Posted by: hank | August 18, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

Whether McCain cheated or not may not be the question, whether you believe he would cheat may be more important. What I’ve seen of McCain the last year, I think he would and will. The man seems desperate for the white house, he will do and say anything.

Posted by: JR | August 18, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

So the great Obama didn’t do well at the forum this weekend and, just like a spoiled child, cries that his opponent had to have cheated to beat him. Is anything ever this man’s fault? And, I’ve used the line about “being above my pay grade” when it actually was that, but never about anything that had to do with my personal core principles or beliefs.

Posted by: BKM in Tennessee | August 18, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Obama’s resume fits on a postage stamp. His inexperience is embarrassing.

Posted by: BoneheadedObama | August 18, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

So just because MCcain much did better it means that he cheated? I am a democrat myself but I am completely unhappy with this propaganda done by some democrats who can’t think that far.
We can see that experience counts. McCain has it and Obama doesn’t but we the democrats should help Obama get elected even that he has no experience and not play it this way with excused as this one about McCain Cheating because this is a complete joke.

Posted by: Reality | August 18, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

Warren caught in a lie on CNN. He says he thought McCain was in the building when he said so on TV, but then mistakenly admits he knew McCain wasn’t there because he couldn’t give him his preview question.

Posted by: James | August 18, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

McCain is a man who repeatedly says he doesn’t like talking about his service, but then constantly talks about it.
He is also fabricating POW stories to enhance his image with the voters:

Posted by: TallyGirl, FL | August 18, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

The only people claiming Obama didn’t do well are McCain supporters. Seems a lot are saying it was the other way around and McCain gave short, expected answers that played to the audience, as usual.

Posted by: JR | August 18, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

check your local listings tonight on cable news for a certain Rick Warren to be interviewed…he is an honest man with a multi-million following he can’t risk being deceitful…..so decide for yourself.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

hank
I have seen Obama speak for an hour without a teleprompter. He does just fine.
The only reason Obama hems and haws when answering questions is becuase he tries to think and talk at the same time. At least McCain’s “experience” has taught him that people don’t care if a president can think so long as he can sound decisive when delivering sound bites.

Posted by: jock59801 | August 18, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Obama was asked a three part question about teachers. During McCain’s round when Pastor Warren mentioned teachers to McCain, McCain interrupted and said: “Yes, yes, and let’s find bad teachers another line of work.” McCain answered before Warren even asked the question. So explain: how did McCain know a three-part question was coming before the question was even asked? And how was McCain then able to give logical answers to the three questions without having even heard the questions yet? Obviously this would be impossible. And there is no way that anyone from the McCain camp can answer this. The proof of cheating is in the videotape, and it cannot be denied.

Posted by: ElodieStClair | August 18, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Mike, you wrote: “…if the religious wsckos would stop making people orphans, we wouldnt have to worry about so many.” Please explain how we people of faith make people orphans?
Some of the major causes for children becoming orphans around the world are: HIV/AIDS; war; genocide; drought; famine; hurricanes/typhoons; tsunamis; murder; fire; and accidents.

Posted by: James Danley | August 18, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Commonsense if mccain was in a mortorcade in an suv as rich as he is there are tvs in the suv with satellite so the answer is john mccain cheated lied watched obamas Q AND A come on people use a little common sense will you???

Posted by: angie | August 18, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

The Old Warhorse punked Barry Hussein. It was embarassing for him.

Posted by: Rev. Michael Pflamethrower | August 18, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Warren caught in a lie on CNN. He says he thought McCain was in the building when he said so on TV, but then mistakenly admits he knew McCain wasn’t there because he couldn’t give him his preview question.
________________
Obama caught in a lie on national tv. He says he has never been in church when Wright was giving one of his hate sermons, but told Wright he couldn’t be at his announcement for running for president because he gets a little “rough” at times.

Posted by: BoneheadedObama | August 18, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

I saw part of the program with Obama and I thought he came across very well. I like him a lot. He’s got my vote.

Posted by: Marilyn | August 18, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Andrea Mitchell and the MSNBC group are in the bag for Obama…that is the only reason they threw this cheating crap out there! No wonder MSNBC is losing it’s audience…can’t trust them for accurate news!! Shame on them

Posted by: mfmros | August 18, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

I’m with jock, McCain blurted out his answers because he had them memorized and if he spoke more he might’ve put his foot in this mouth.
Wouldn’t it be great to have a president that THOUGHT for a change?

Posted by: JR | August 18, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

Interesting that McCain won’t answer.
But really. If you were Karl Rove or one of the Republican advisors with McCain who aspires to be Karl Rove… of course you’d be listening to the Obama interview live and feeding McCain the info.
That’s just who these people are. Are we really supposed to all of a sudden believe that the GOP has changed it’s stripes and become something it hasn’t been for the last 8 years… if ever?

Posted by: James | August 18, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

I don’t know if Mc Cain got his questions before hand, but I do think he got help from Foxnews. At one point Mc Cain was talking about Reagan telling the Russians to teardown the wall. Now I have heard that from Sean H. too many times; it sounded like he took from him word for word

Posted by: timl wash | August 18, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

BoneheadedObama
That is not what Obama said, so it is kind of hard to prove it as a “lie.”

Posted by: jock59801 | August 18, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

TallyGirl….McCain doesn’t talk about his POW experiences and is always pushed by his campaign to do so…we all need to know more about both these men and their life experiences….although Obama’s is always secretive. Let’s hear about his step family in Kenya, for instance. Really a persons family can so clearly shape who they are. I have my own theory (psych 101) on Obama and parental abandonment issues, particularly with mom (hence he married Michelle). So we all need to get to know these candidates better and I would like Obama to open up more with his own personal stories (and not from his flowery book)….or Obama Nation or the other Obama book no one is talking about and I hear it’s much tougher on him.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

“they threw this cheating crap out there!”, because they caught McCain and Warren not telling the truth about McCain’s location.

Posted by: JR | August 18, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

The last thing we need in our “Oval Office” is the latest product of Chicago’s age old political machine, Barrack Hussein Obama. Never have there been so many unanswered questions about a single Pres. candidate as there are about BO…no thank you, McCain is the logical choice for all thinking voters…have a nice day.

Posted by: ltk01 | August 18, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

Maybe I’m missing something, but I don’t understand how some link the the fact McCain’s agreeing to the forum and it’s rules, then not abiding by them; and Rev. Warren assuring all viewers that McCain is, in fact, in the building, in the Green Room, in the “cone of silence”, while, in fact, McCain is not in the building but on his way, in a motorcade with access to electronic devices (cell phones, Blackberries, XM Sirius radio, etc.) that could possibly be used to listen in on Obama’s Q&A, and leaving questions unanswered such as: did McCain’s staff notify Rev. Warren they would be late? Did Warren know? Did McCain hear any of, or was he briefed on any of the questions Obama was asked? to Obama’s record in the Senate, his campaign, or Obama at all, for that matter. Or why they believe the media is out of line for making it a story.
This is about McCain and Warren only and the media has an obligation to pursue the story and answer the questions that surround it.

Posted by: lou | August 18, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

Debra, McCain talks about his POW experiences at EVERY opportunity. I hear the latest one about the X-Mas cross sounds a lot like a passage from the Gulag Archipelago. Remember how Reagan used to tell stories about his past that turned out to be from his movies?

Posted by: JR | August 18, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

I thought I was the only one that knew MCCain cheated. listen I like Sen. Obama and at the end I felt Mccain did better, but why. When I see this man stumble in a room of 22 peopke and then when over a thousand are there he is answering questions before they are even out. If he is such a professional why was he late. He’s early for everything else why one this day are you’re 1/2 hour to 45 minutes late? They gave him the questions and he saw the debate. And for them to say that there was no feed available in that room and then confirm that there was a tv in there but personnel made it unavailable for use. It’s a lie, no one was watching the McCain campaign. I felt Obama’s statements were not conjured up or readily predicted. He said wheat he believed from his heart. WHy was McCain on Supreme Court justices did he not remember that that was never discussed? That’s for the Mccain supporters who think he wouldn’t lie. Obama looked good to me.

Posted by: crochrell | August 18, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

The press in their arrogance and hatred of the President of the United States will do all they can to defeat John McCain. They are losing creditability with the country with their slanted views as well they should.
Andrea Mitchell – and Gregory are just example – but only two – Shame on the press core a group we once look to for the news – no more they are now spin merchants – readers of that crap someone else writes.
In the end we will all be losers for soon the news will no longer have a following because they have betrayed the trust given to them. The public will get their direction else where but not from these reporters a name that should be changed to liars – distorters of the truth – those who have an agenda which is not providing the great unwashed public with the truth – instead their personal views or spin.
Enjoy this time for it is coming to an end and you find yourselves like the rest of us having to work for a living. That is why everybody was destroyed when Tim Russert died – Gregory, Mitchell, Obermann and the rest of the fools don’t get it yet. But the whole bunch of them couldn’t carry Russerts bag to a meeting and that includes Brokaw.

Posted by: a citizen | August 18, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

The last thing we need in our “Oval Office” is a irrational, old fool that wants to start WW III.

Posted by: JR | August 18, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

Well everyone will have another opportunity to learn about these two candidates starting tonight with bios on Obama (on FOX) and McCain tomorrow night. I’m looking forward to it, though my mind is made up, as is 98% of the bloggers here. Warren is on CNN as well.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

If Obama would’ve went 2nd, the Obamabots would STILL claim that McCain somehow cheated. Why won’t Obama meet John McCain for a townhall type debate? I don’t think that Obama did bad in Warren’s forum except for his “uhhh’s” but John McCain was so much better and passionate about his answers and knew what he was talking about. He has had so much more experience than Obama. Obama has had 143 days in Congress. He is too inexperienced to be President. This country will be in serious trouble if he is elected.

Posted by: mj | August 18, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

Obama campaign whining again. What’s new?

Posted by: Area504 | August 18, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

I think this is so comical! Obama didn’t fare as well in this venue so, of course, McCain must have cheated! The only questions where knowing the question ahead of time would have helped were apparently told to both candidates ahead of time, i.e., naming the three wisest people you know and your greatest moral failure. How could anyone be surprised the pastor would ask questions about abortion, gay marriage, taxes, the economy and the like? The truth is that Obama’s meandering answers to direct questions didn’t play as well as McCain’s firm, direct answers.

Posted by: anne1244 | August 18, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

McCain campaign lying again. What’s new?

Posted by: JR | August 18, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

McCain cheated on his wife. Why would anyone be surprised that he cheated for the show?

Posted by: Common Sense | August 18, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

So gald when Hillary and Obama had their Faith Forum there was none of this when Hillary went first, I believe and Obama spoke second. I guess becauses they were playing for the same team Hillary supporters didn’t have to go accusing Obama of listening in. My lord, this isn’t a calculus test that needs exact answers. If you don’t know enough about yourself and your beliefs that you have to stir up this skuttlebutt over answers that John McCain has given daily for months now….you have some serious confidence and credibility problems. (Nobama).
The man is just better than you at this. Face it.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

Obama’s speech pattern or challenging him to a Town Hall style debate with McCain has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
This is about McCain and Rev. Warren.
All they need to do is answer a few questions and it can be put to rest.
Unless, of course, their answers raise more questions.

Posted by: lou | August 18, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Why didn’t Obama verify that McCain was actually in the building? This is a serious mistake on Obama’s part, and one more reason why I don’t trust him to have his finger on the button. It shows a major lack of experience and inability to handle even the simplest of tasks…

Posted by: Kitty | August 18, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

“Why didn’t Obama verify that McCain was actually in the building?”
Posted by: Kitty
It was Warren’s affair, it was his job to see that both played by the rules. I like how you make it Obama’s fault that McCain cheated.

Posted by: JR | August 18, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

The transcripts sure look like McCain knew the questions before-hand.

Posted by: Jeff | August 18, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

Even McCain’s defenders who believe he didn’t “cheat” have to admit that he had the opportunity to do so. Why is it that he had that opportunity, and why wasn’t Rev. Warren informed so that he could have delayed the forum if he needed to.
That’s the one that bugs me; why wasn’t McCain there, and why did Warren think he was?,

Posted by: lou | August 18, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

All of this controversy surrounding McCain’s access to the Warren interview should serve as a guidepost away from further appearances of the candidates together at a church. Why haven’t the candidates had a debate yet monitored by a responsible journalist? Are they having too hard of a time trying to find one so they settled for Dr. Warren?

Posted by: kat | August 18, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Obama should have verified that McCain was in the building. Contrary to a previous poster’s assertion that this was Warren’s affair, Obama was crucial to the event. What will his excuse be on a matter of national security? This lack of tending to even a simple matter should sound the alarm to all Americans.

Posted by: Kitty | August 18, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

Obama really should have verified that McCain was in the building. It is obviously important to many Obama supporters. Perhaps Obama doesn’t really care about his supporters.

Posted by: Kitty | August 18, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

The public was misled by McCain, one can say that for sure.

Posted by: Thinking | August 18, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

The fact is Obama is not impressive without teleprompters….live with it.
One does not need to know the questions in advance …he needed to know where he really, truly stand on issues and he can not have both ways.

Posted by: Frieda | August 18, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Obama, being the man of faith that he is, took the word of Rev. Warren, which should have been good enough.
Had it been McCain’s word…well that’s another story.

Posted by: lou | August 18, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Posted by: Mike | August 18, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Obama will stop at nothing and I mean NOTHING to deflect the fact that he failed and lost the debate big time.

Posted by: Jeff | August 18, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Obama speaks the way he does because he is thoughtfull, it’s as simple as that. Unlike McCain, who uses the same packaged phrases over and over, interspersed with “oh, by the way, I was a POW”, quite often, Obama is actually thinking and speaking from the heart.

Posted by: lou | August 18, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

Wow are we actually going to see Obama examined by the national press now? Will the media actually start asking him direct questions about his very thin voting record?( well lets not include MSNBC) Yes I know he was a community organizer, blah, blah, blah, I mean his connections with politics in Africa, Frank Marshal, and the like?…well are we?

Posted by: Jim | August 18, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Fox news has two pundits on now that say Obama campaign looks weak and McCAIN SHOULD COME OUT TOMORROW AND SAY LET’S DO IT AGAIN OBAMA…..YOU NAME IT, I’ll meet you anywhere, anytime on ANY subject!
God, I’d love McCain to come out tomorrow and challenge him to do it again!
McCain trounced Obama…..he didn’t have a phone in his shoe, this is whinnig of a loser and the American public is catching on Nobama!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

Senator McCain knew he was not at the venue during Obama’s interview, yet he cajoled that he was “trying to hear through the wall”. This was intentionally misleading and only partially true. He may not be a liar, but like the current President, he is a preveracator.
Hopefully, he knew that he was not present at the time the Obama interview started and should have disclosed that fact. If he did not know where he was, we have a more serious problem.
His mendacity mislead those of us in the worship center and those listening through the media. Senator McCain owes us an explanatiojn and an apology for misleading us.
This was a commendable effort by the church on behalf of the entire nation. The half-truth told by the Senator reflects very poorly on his integrity and character and has now taited my impression of his performance.
Shame on you, Senator McCain! I thought you would be more respectful of your audience and the American people. When you spoke of sacrifice, I did not think that you were sacrificing the truth.

Posted by: bill | August 18, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

Your man lost at Saddleback..Now get over it and lets talk about issues that really matter. Now, you are accusing a very respected, well known, pastor. A man of true religion who doesnt spout hate in his church like obamas pastor did for 20 years. You are sore losers and it shows in your “whining” when he doesnt fair well..so, stop being so defensive and start learning about your man..maybe then you will realize he is not the “man”, or God, you think he is.

Posted by: she will | August 18, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

Obama’s answers to the questions were HIS answers and they were dumb….so…even if McCain did hear anything is mute! The problem is that Obama did not have a telepromter or one of his “advisors” whispering in his ear to answer for him!! And his responses were pathetic to say the least!

Posted by: mfmros | August 18, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

Obama’s performance was thoughtful and good (while not his best) to be sure.
Let’s also remember he was giving this “performance” in a church full of mostly white “pro-life” evangelical Christians from Orange County, a heavily Republican area…
No way was he going to get the applause McCain got when he told everyone “Like begins at conception.” That is basically the mantra for the audience he was playing to…
All this though does not change the fact that McCAIN CHEATED! I knew his answers were coming to fast for him to be hearing the questions for the first time. Especially that one where before the question was even fully asked (a three part question by the way) He jumped and said NO, No and No! I found that very strange until I heard that McCain wasn’t in “the cone of silence” but in his motorcade watching TV Probably!
What a cheater and a crook this old fool is! No way that doddering old man could get all these answers out so quickly…
Let’s see how he does at the debates, where he can’t cheat and hear everything first!!!
Obama/Biden ’08!!!!

Posted by: Davis | August 18, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

I still don’t get how McCain’s not being in the “cone” when he was supposed to have been, and why Warren believed McCain was there when he actually wasn’t, has anything to do with Obama’s voting record, speaking abilities, or Obama himself at all.

Posted by: lou | August 18, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

bill….were you in the green room with McCain trying to listen through the wall….then you have no basis to accuse. McCain could have been in a room for FIVE minutes and he could still say “I was trying to listen through the wall”.
McCain supporters are urging him to ask Obama for another forum….at his beck and call, McCain will show up anytime and anywhere. Obama’s debating confidence hopefully won’t keep him from accepting McCain’s offer!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Contrary to popular belief, Obama did not “lose” at Saddleback. He received hearty applause on a number of points in a crowd which from he gets about 15% support at best. He had nothing to lose. McCain had home field advantage and maybe even the opponents playbook, but in the end, don’t be surprised if Obama converted 1 or 2 in the audience.

Posted by: lou | August 18, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

I orginally thought McCain won the forum conversation but after the past couple of days and the details that are now revealing itself I believe Obama won the forum conversation.
I found no humor in the “$5,000,000″ comment.
He was and then wasn’t in a “cone of silence”
And above all, the story that almost brought a tear to my eye was false. He lied.
McCain overall performance as I view now was well rehearsed and calculated.

Posted by: Vanessa | August 18, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

I don’t get it! How can a good orator like Obama unravel during an easy Q&A session? He also faltered during the primaries debate with Hillary that was moderated by ABC’s Charles Gibson. Of course, Charles Gibson was blamed then for being too tough on Obama.
The scope of the issues were given to both of them beforehand. The questions by Rev. Warren were not much harder than job interview questions or oral exams for English classes.
But what really floored me was Obama’s answer when questioned when a baby is entitled to human rights. “That’s above my pay grade.”
Too bad Hillary is out of the race. I would really get a good laugh of Part II of her 3 a.m ad. ” When the call comes at 3 a.m, will it be answered or will the president reject it because “it’s above my pay grade?”

Posted by: Donoke9-10 | August 18, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

No lou, it’s the belief of the media/critics that Obama performed poorly. We’re used to this tho, after watching Hillary continually clean his clock after the few debates Nobama would agree to. Loser.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

McCain Cheated!
He knew he was not in any “cone of silence”, yet he went out there at the forum when it was his turn and went along with the idea he had, even joking that he tried to listen through the walls. Now we know he was in his car (with a radio I presume..) and for damn sure was listening to Obama’s questions.
Keep trying with the “POWs never lie” spin. It aint working!

Posted by: John | August 18, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

I love that the losers are complaining as if the “cone of silence” was real, and not an off-hand pop culture reference. “Show me the cone!” Or more thoughtfully “was there actually such a cone?” hmmm.

Posted by: Wade | August 18, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

“Too bad Hillary is out of the race. I would really get a good laugh of Part II of her 3 a.m ad. ” When the call comes at 3 a.m, will it be answered or will the president reject it because “it’s above my pay grade?”"
Ha! He’ll transfer the call to George Clooney.

Posted by: Mack | August 18, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

Tomorrow McCain will challenge Obama to a redo at Obama’s place of choice and date. McCain will go first…..will Obama join him or run scared as usual from debates?

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

Having another forum would be a good idea. But unlike the first one, which was in McCain’s advantage, this would be different in that not JUST a White Evangelical would be on stage asking the questions, but we would see representatives from all the major religions practiced in the US participating.
We could then call it an even playing field.

Posted by: lou | August 18, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

“He was in front of a audience of mostly white Orange County Republicans. In addition they are pro-life evangelicals ones to boot!”
So what you’re saying is, because he was in front of white people he couldn’t answer honestly what his thoughts were on the issues?

Posted by: p0s3r | August 18, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

April 13 in PA, Hillary answered first at Faith forum while Obama was not in the building yet….he came on and they shook hands before Obama answered same questions…..ANYBODY CARE?

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

McCain can challenge Obama if he likes, but at the same time he should tell the public why he wasn’t in the “cone” when he should have been, and why Warren believed that he was.

Posted by: lou | August 18, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

“April 13 in PA, Hillary answered first at Faith forum while Obama was not in the building yet….he came on and they shook hands before Obama answered same questions…..ANYBODY CARE?”
That’s not fair. You’re using logic.

Posted by: Mack | August 18, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

This is so entertaining! To hear the Obamafans sobbing and crying “cheat” can only mean that the old guy whooped the one! So beautiful! Everyone can see now why BO does not want to meet McCain in Town Hall Meetings! McCain would wallop him!
BO was full of hemming and awwing, getting off-topic, and took so long to answer the question that he lost me! Course this is above his pay-grade! Lol! McCain shone – he was in his element.
The last thing we need in the “Oval Office” is a cry-a-baby, a sore and poor loser, an immature person who wants to take all his marbles and go home (and cry “foul”) if he does not win!

Posted by: Beckie | August 18, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

If Mccain and Rick Warren both lied to the american people and should admit to it. If he didn’t listen to Obama how did he answer all 3 parts of a 3 part question on education before it was even asked.

Posted by: Daniel50 | August 18, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

Pastor Warren has stated unequivocally that the charges of McCain cheating are false. He says that he was sequestered in a room with both Secret Service and church members and that had any cheating occurred, he would know it.
The whining from the Obama camp and followers is pathetic. Your demands for an absolute level playing field beg the question: do you think Ahmadinejad will play fair with Obama? Do you think Putin/Medvedev will play fair with Obama? Do you think Castro will play fair with Obama? You get the idea.
If Obama can’t face Hillary or McCain without a million allegations and excuses being made for his poor performance, what does the future hold under a President Obama who is playing hardball in the real world?

Posted by: marylou | August 18, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

lou “cone of silence” was a metaphor…he was in a room with no media……except his maxwell smart shoe phone. Geeze.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

“The whining from the Obama camp and followers is pathetic. Your demands for an absolute level playing field beg the question: do you think Ahmadinejad will play fair with Obama? Do you think Putin/Medvedev will play fair with Obama? Do you think Castro will play fair with Obama? You get the idea.”
Unfortunately the race card won’t work with any one of them.

Posted by: Mack | August 18, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

I hope the “media” hold ground on this one and not be bullied by the McCain campaign.
McCain should have informed the viewing public–LIVE, ON-AIR during his own appearance at the Faith Forum–that no such “cone of silence” surrounded him (McCain) while Barack Obama was LIVE, ON-AIR.
After the Faith Forum ended, the McCain campaign had ample time to disclose a breach in this “cone of silence.” Instead, they knowingly allowed Pastor Rick Warren’s “cone of silence” false promulgation to stand. What political calculation by the McCain campaign went into that decision, I wonder?
My guess is that the McCain campaign will use the reporting of this breach to kickoff a series of offensive attacks against the “media,” disguised as defensive measures but calculated to build wedges of favorable support for McCain among persons already negatively pre-disposed against—the “media.”
Millions of people including Democrats, Obama supporters and Independents watching that Faith Forum had suspicions about this “cone of silence.” The entire viewing public has a right to know it was a blatant FALSEHOOD!
I hope the “media” hold ground on this one and not be bullied by the McCain campaign.

Posted by: Mike | August 18, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Rick Warren will be on with Larry King tonight and address all this….what I want is an apology to the McCain campaign tomorrow from Obama camp.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

It’s obvious. Evangelicals are determined to get duped again by a candidate who *says* he will support their cause.
McCain just needs your votes. After he’s got it, he couldn’t care less. He only cares about his Corporate Buddies.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | August 18, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

I havent met a Hillary supporter who isn’t voting for Obama. The only ones who claime to be are McCain sock puppets. They get points on the McCain website for pretending to be someone they arent’

Posted by: Mike | August 18, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Of course McCain’s a liar and a cheat – just ask his first wife! A cheater and a liar (Carol, Keating Five, Cindy’s drug cover-up) – he blends right in with the GOP!!

Posted by: Jackie | August 18, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

What’s the big deal? Is lying something new for politicans? Dems, get over it! Republicans, quit spinning it! Do either of these jokers really have our best interests at heart? Obama lacks experience period! McCain is just too dang old! Unfortunately, one of them will be the prez … there are better people out there!

Posted by: Clint | August 18, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

McCain answers to questions were pretty much same questions he has answered all along in his campaign. No real surprise in his quick and definite responses. Even if McCain new what questions would be asked (which he didn’t), it wouldn’t have made much difference. McCain did his homework and was prepared. Sorry, but I felt that Obama responses were weak and in the case of “What stage in life does the baby have rights,” really bad response – “Over my pay grade” Awful.

Posted by: Temagami | August 18, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

He wasn’t “sequestered in a room with secret service and church members”. He was in the back seat of a car with LOBBYIST Charlie Black and the Blackberry Brigade. CHEATER!!!!! Then, to top it all off, McCain blows his cover by ANSWERING a THREE-PART question BEFORE IT IS ASKED! WHAT A LOSER!!

Posted by: Jackie | August 18, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Debra – So McCain cheats, notice they wouldn’t say his staff hadn’t heard and told him, but you want the Obama campaign to apologize? Why?

Posted by: try the truth | August 18, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Jackie – Not only that, but also asking when the Supreme court question was going to be asked! But, nobody is supposed to say anything…he got busted and now is angry they discovered he has no integrity!

Posted by: try the truth | August 18, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

I don’t care if both candidates had each question printed out to study for an hour beforehand…..this isn’t a MENSA test…this is knowing who you are and what you stand for. Watch FOX tonight and tomorrow night for bios on Obama and McCain.
I can’t wait for McCain to request a re-do for Obama, at his choice of venue and whatever day he wants….McCain goes first. He’s man enough to handle it without whining.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

Warren has said that McCain was in a room with Secret service and church members and there was no listening in…what is so hard to figure out…..watch Larry King tonight.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

Pastor Warren was interviewed on Hannity today – that tells you everything you need to know about this phony “unbiased” forum. Furthermore Warren said that Saakashvili personally called him the day after the forum and thanked him for bringing up the Georgia issue. Did Warren or McCain bring up Georgia, and Saakashvili is too American media aware for my liking.

Posted by: Jonze | August 18, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

FOX running Obama bio now. McCain tomorrow night.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

John, I live in LA, I’m 49 and I voted Hillary. I’d do it again, but now I’m backing McCain. I am into ALL AMERICANS! who put our country first.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

First no one cheated! On the VP I think Obama should pick me. I am a non collage grad, 50 year old white male and could help Obama bring people like me to his side. Plus I would tear McCain or his VP pick up in a debate especially on international policy since I am a Master Chief with 29 years in the Navy.One year to go!! Maybe if i get captured for a few years I can run for President. Sorry joke in bad taste. All McCain can talk about is his POW years, which I respect him for, however that in itself does not make him a good president. When he talks he sounds just like G. Bush execpt I think Bush knew more about economics going in than McCain does. Thats pretty scary. If McCain cant threaten it or attack it with the military he wont know what to do. McCain is also dead set in is ways and would not bend with changing situations that might come up. Rep. and Dem. will differ on abortion, on taxation, and on supreme court judges etc always. Republicans like to spend the money with no way of paying for it. They can mention polar bear research as a money waist but he doesnt mention all the billions the republicans waist on a country that has assets and a surplus while the US is going broke. Plus all the money that is Bush sponsered and we have no idea what programs he is spending it on.Bush and the republicans like to only tell the public what they have to. Most the time its not even the truth. We as Americans elect our goverment and out side of national security we have the right to know what our tax dollars are being spent on and be told the truth. We should also be told the truth as to why we are attcking another country. However the republicans put themselves on a God like pedestal like G. Bush does.Small businesses are going out of business. We are out sourcing american jobs. Small and big business that outsource should be taxed higher and ones that support Americans and keep Americans employed should be given a tax break. To fix this broken economy, health care, energy resources, polution, prison systems, crime, drug abuse, education, etc cost money. Its unfair but someone has got to pay for it. The ones that best can afford higher taxes are the upper class. Sorry but its reality. Or we can keep pouring money overseas and keep going further in dept. McCain is a great man and hero but he is not what we need now. He is to much like Bush. Imagine him sitting on stage with Warren in a military uniform and a pistol on his side and answered the questions like he did. Scary. The republicans have shown they only care about the wealthy and big business and military action. Sorry but have been down the republican road for eight years. They had their chance. We need a different aproach. Obama will handle this country fine and would be a lot better for the economy. He pulled in 51mil while McCain only pulled in 27mil. He will be a better manager and will surround himseld with all the experiance needed. Look around you. Look at the value of your home. Look at the fuel prices. Look at all the Americans loosing their jobs and homes and cars because we send our employment elsewhere. Look hard. Vote McCain if you like it. If you dont vote Obama. He is the only chance we have. Please support our troops. Obama 08

Posted by: CW | August 18, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

This is the big deal, if mccain heard obama’s answers to the pastor’s questions, then he’s a cheater and a liar. He was asked by the pastor if he heard anything while in the “cone of silence” he answered” I tried to hear” and he got a big laugh. But he never answered the question. Had he answered correctly and honestly he would have admitted that he was not in the “cone of silence” the whole time obama was answering questions. But he lied instead. As for being a cheater. If he was not in the “cone of silence” why lie about it, UNLESS he cheated!
Do we really need a president who lies, and cheats for the most trivial of issues? I don’t think so.

Posted by: truthsayer | August 18, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

No denial of someone with McCain geting the questions and then possibly enlightening the Senator to me means that is exactly what happened. I knew we couldn’t trust this guy to play fair – he hasn’t since the campaign started.

Posted by: s | August 18, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

“I havent met a Hillary supporter who isn’t voting for Obama.”
Here’s one, sweety.
The only reason you can’t FInd them is because when you do, you call them republican sock puppets… whatever the heck THAT means.
Hillary or McCain.
Country over broken down DNC!!!

Posted by: EYES OPENING | August 18, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

“Do we really need a president who lies, and cheats for the most trivial of issues?”
If you don’t, VOTE FOR MCCAIN!!!
You’ll be happy that you did!

Posted by: google | August 18, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Rick Warren is on CNN now with Larry…tune in.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Obama’s answers were so “nuanced” I couldn’t understand him. Obama’s people need to be questioning Warren, a well respected reverend who wouldn’t lie. I still want McCain to offer a re-do anytime, anywhere…Obama’s choice.
Watching CNN now.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Jeez, as usual. Anyone who outshines Obama must be a cheater. Might it be that Obama stunk in answering questions as he as always been. McCain has always done well in these types of settings, one on one, debates, and town halls.

Posted by: bluebird | August 18, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

I believe that most are missing the point here. McCain led everyone to believe that he was in the cone of silence when he was not. His spokesperson incredulously asked if Obama was questioning a former prisoner of war. Excuse me, but aren’t military personnel trained to lie in such a circumstance? However, that’s beside the point. The point is McCain was not in the cone of silence and therefore had an opportunity to hear Obama’s responses. As a result that advantage may have allowed him to play to the crowd. That is dishonest and is the unadulterated definition of disingenuous.

Posted by: Waiting to Exhale | August 18, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

The new adjective for Obamaspeak……”nuanced”. Shameful his camp had to start this bruhaha today because they can’t wrap their brains around his lacklustre performance. You’d think they’d be use to it after his 3 debates with Hillary.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

waiting to exhale…..Warren asked McCain “how was the cone of silence” first. watch Larry King tonight.

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Hey, CW (Master Chief),
I just read your 8:20:13 PM comment. I was a navy man too (and an ANG, and a DoD official with recent service in Iraq) and I didn’t run into too many liberals in our volunteer military. I’m confused that you accused the Republicans of all the ills practiced by the Democrats. Perhaps they are both guilty, but when it comes to out of control spending, going to war, misinterpreting the Constitution and tampering with basic fundamental rights, the Democrats out violate Republicans by a noticeable stretch. As for our successes in Iraq, it was the Democrats who were a fifth column to the point of treason. We all saw it when we were in Iraq and we see it now as they tried to discredit us as well as our commander-in-chief, policy makers, and senior leadership at home and down range, and while in the face of a nearly defeated enemy. Thanks for your service Master Chief, but I and most of the warriors out there past and present are supporting and voting for John McCain for our commander-in-chief.

Posted by: Back From Iraq | August 18, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

RICK WARREN SAID OBAMA GOT ONE MORE PREVIEW OF A QUESTION (RE: ORPHANS) THAT McCAIN DIDN’T HAVE.
Equal number of tickets were given to each of their campaigns…it was not all Evangelicals…they were Obots in the audience.
McCain was with Secret Service and church members in the green room…I’m so glad Hillary supporters didn’t pull this crap on Obama last April 13 in PA at their faith forum, where Hillary spoke first and Obama was who knows where?
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Obama has just lost Rev. Warren and his 35 millions followers votes. Obama and his supporters are calling Rev. Warren and McCain a lying and cheater. Each time Rev. Warren has to say the statement is bogus, Obama loses a Christian vote. So keep it coming.

Posted by: cookie | August 18, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

This black woman will voting for McCain. Sorry Obama and DNC, you guys lost me when Obama opens his mouth.

Posted by: Sally298 | August 18, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Why did McCain lie about being in the cone of silence? Why did he not admit that he was not there and give his reason. Why did he deliberately mislead the audience? Do we really want four more years of someone who is not honest with the American people? If he lies about something as minor as his whereabouts, can we trust him to tell the truth about something major? I respect him for his many years of service; however, he is an adulterer and he is not fit to shine President Bush’s shoes- let alone to fill them.

Posted by: Outraged | August 18, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

McCain is a LIAR and a CHEATER. And apparently his mind is so addled that he can’t even remember that when he is reciting his SCRIPTED lines, the question from Brother Warren is supposed to come BEFORE the answer from McCain.

Posted by: Jackie | August 18, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Okay. Let’s eliminate McCain’s answers. Now explain Obama’s pathetic responses?

Posted by: geevill | August 18, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Obama is going to lose. can you feel the panic

Posted by: geevill | August 18, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

McCain is lying about the specifics of his foreknowlege. This is obvious to anyone except, apparently, folks who are totally unable to consider any other candidate.

Posted by: JP | August 18, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Geevill: I heard today, Obama’s camp and the DNC are becoming a little upset with Obama because he cannot express more details his plan for change.

Posted by: Quincy | August 18, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Boy… McCain is choosing his words carefully. He didn’t see or hear Obama… but he won’t answer the question of whether or not someone else listened to Obama and answered the questions for him.
What a wimp. Just admit it… you agreed to be there in the “cone of silence”… you weren’t.
Spare us all this Bill Clinton, what is the meaning of “is” nonsense!

Posted by: blip | August 18, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

Republicans are voting for Obama now more than ever jsut to keep their own seats in the House…
Wow!!
Bye bye neosapacons…

Posted by: gerry | August 18, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

Did you all noticed; Obama tipped his head to the right with he is lying or nervous. Take a look at some of his past debates and interviews. He never performed well when his head tip to the right.

Posted by: willie | August 18, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

Puma’s only had 52,000 members that only donated 25k to Hillary, BWAAAAA!!!
LOL!!

Posted by: rick | August 18, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

This is great…the more the Obots complain the more each and every Evangelical votes McCain, as they are questioning Rick Warren’s integrity. The guy adressed it tonight on CNN, end of story. I still want McCain to request a rematch and HE’LL GO FIRST. Anywhere, anytime Nobama!

Posted by: Debra | August 18, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

I think it is fine for people to question McCain’s performance. Clearly Warren trusted him. McCain acted like a diva and showed up late (and maybe even cheated). And now Warren is taking heat for it.
I would seriously question the integrity of someone who would force Warren to take the heat for McCain’s poor time managment skills (or dishonesty).
I think that most voters are going to see it for what it is.

Posted by: blip | August 18, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

I didn’t realize until last night that McCain can lie with such a straight face….. The Democrats went after Hillary for her Bosnia story, but are giving McCain a free pass. Even Rick Warren allowed McCain to talk endlessly about his captivity. How can I trust anything that Rick Warren says. Tonight on Larry King he went out of his way to help John McCain by stating how sensitive McCain was that he teared up 3 times……….WOW……
Rick Warren…..
“How was it like in the CONE OF SILENCE ”
John McCain….
“I tried to put my head against the wall to see if I could hear any of the answers” Laugh Laugh
It’s not the deed … it’s the cover up…. Why is the McCain camp all riled up ? He cheated.
Why wasn’t his answer ” You know Rick… I have to be honest… but he wasn’t.
Note to McCain……
Don’t answer a question before it’s asked…..

Posted by: Ron | August 18, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

McCain is the most flawed moron we have in Politics..
he makes Bush seem intelligent….

Posted by: Ben | August 18, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

I hope the press goes over this seriously. If Obama pulled this, you know they would.

Posted by: Blip | August 18, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Warren said McWarmoger could not have heard because the secret service would have reported it. He is wrong, that is not secret service job to report what a candidate is doing inside the car. Have you ever heard of secret service reporting on what a candidate is doing inside the car. Warren seems to be covering for himself, because it’s embarrassment and Warren’s reputation is on the line. Also, he said it could have been as much as 10 minutes McWarmoger was not in the cone of silence. Still, Warren does not know for sure.

Posted by: suv2001 | August 18, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

It must be real sad time in this Country when you have a Pastor totally lying to his Congregation and America..
Pastor Warren you lost your biggest supporters..
Young Evangelics for Obama!!

Posted by: Mary | August 18, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

The bad news for McCain is that he’ll have to explain the ramifications of his assertion that the conceptus has rights from conception. Should the birth control pill millions of American women take be made illegal, given that it sometimes prevents implantation of the conceptus? How about the Morning After pill?
Should the practice of fertility clinics discarding unused embryos be made illegal?
Should women who’re raped be forced to carry the conceptus to term?
Does ensoulment occur at conception? If the conceptus subsequently divides, does each part get half a soul?
It’ll be interesting to see if McCain can suck up to evangelicals without losing millions of women and Independents.

Posted by: Odin | August 18, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

McCain already knew the answers as he DID HIS HOMEWORK AND WAS PREPARED.. OBAMA WAS TERRIBLE!!!

Posted by: Manitu | August 18, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

When McLiar told the story of XMAS that someone drew a cross in the snow, I had to say this can’t happen..
I am conservative and now will vote for Obama..
We don’t need a liar in White House..
we are getting rid of all of them…

Posted by: Mary | August 18, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

OBAMA HAS STILL NOT LEARNED THE PRINCIPALS OF THE SEVEN Ps. PRIOR PROPER PLANNING PREVENTS ___ POOR PERFORMANCE!!!

Posted by: Temagami | August 18, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

McCain would like more Troops to die forhis war rather than bring them home when the leaders of Iraq wants us out..
McCain doesn’t care about people, he cares about Bullets and killing..

Posted by: Sharon | August 18, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

Obama tells the truth to win this election.
McCain needs to lie and cheat to win voters!!
McCain is a joke and a vile moron..
He couldn’t run his nose let alone POTUS

Posted by: Sharon | August 18, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

OBAMA. “THAT IS OVER MY PAY GRADE???” WOW, IS THAT EVER PRESIDENTIAL!!!

Posted by: Manitu | August 18, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

Young Evangelicals are voting for Obama this year.. They are 10 Million to only 5 Million adults evangelicals..
Bye bye McCain,turn the lights offs when your thru lying about how you will get Bin Laden and how you know how to win wars..Tool!!

Posted by: Rick | August 18, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

the candidate does not speak for the campaign.

Posted by: tad hominem | August 18, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

Obama cannot get out more than five words without stopping to …. whatever. Can’t wait when he actually talks to Putin!!!

Posted by: Manitu | August 18, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Why are Republicans switching party’s in drove this year to support Obama?
Must be the need to protect their seats or they hate what the Republicans have as a Candidate..
Mccain is not fit for President PERIOD~~

Posted by: James | August 18, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

Me too…..abortion was about the only thing I could get behind Obama on and was shocked that he wimped out and wouldn’t answer directly about where he stood on the subject. He lacks a spine and common sense—-he’d make a horrible president and I think most are realizing it. He should have just answered honestly and stood his ground on supporting abortion.

Posted by: chattyway | August 18, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

James… DREAM ON…….

Posted by: Manitu | August 18, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Face it..McCain will be the next POTUS! Obama will face more criticism in the coming day…more and more dems are voting for McCain, not only because of Hillary, but they are beginning to see that Obama is a fraud..will do ANYTHING to get into the WH…won’t happen! Obama and his group of thugs can go back to Chicago! Good riddance to bad rubbish!!

Posted by: mfmros | August 18, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

There is a video of McCain watching Obama being interviewed by Rick Warren on the T.V. inside his limo……pass it on

Posted by: Henry | August 18, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Susan, how about an education in DC? Most bucks per kid and poorest achievement. MS in ED.

Posted by: Manitu | August 18, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

line 10 thru 19

Posted by: ramaci | August 18, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

Obama is a very good speaker when reading from a teleprompter. THAT’S IT. THAT’S IT. THERE IS REALLY NOTHING MORE!! BAGGAGE, NOT QUALIFIED, NO EXPERIENCE, CRAZY IDEAS AND SUPPORTED BY MARXISTS FROM FARTHER LEFT THAN HIMSELF!!

Posted by: Jimbo | August 18, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Pop.
Sixty percent? Source??

Posted by: Temagami | August 18, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

How stupid does Obama have to be not to be prepared for an abortion question at a evangelican church question and answer? Then to claim McCain cheated because Obama wasn’t prepared? Obama is really a very dumb guy. If he is pro-choice then he needed to stand up and take a position—-the line he gave about it being above his paygrade to make a decision was stupid. What does he think presidents do when they nominate Supreme Court judges that decide on Rowe vs. Wade.

Posted by: chattyway | August 18, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

So why are all the POW’s say McCain is lying about being tortured when he wasn’t. None of them got tortured.
He stayed because they pampered him not tortured him.
His legs and arm where broke on his landing in winter cold ground.. I checked the two guys stories of the whole times he was there…
They kept him in a bed while the other where kept to sleep on a floor..

Posted by: Megan | August 18, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

Obama supporters are to dumb to understand this, but knocking McCain’s military record is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE!! NOTICE THAT OBAMA DOES NOT TOUCH IT… WHY?? OBAMA DOES NOT HAVE ANY MILITARY RECORD… DUH…

Posted by: Jimbo | August 18, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

‘But as for the question the McCain campaign won’t answer — did anyone with McCain, given the questions via email or cell phone, share them with the senator — Ross says, “I cannot speak to that.”‘
Obviously Ross can’t answer that as he is connected with the church, not with the McCain campaign. So who has asked the McCain campaign these questions, when, and where? I find no reference to these questions being asked of the McCain campaign on any other news site. Did you yourself ask the campaign, and if so, what was there response to you(exact quote and source please).
Remember: who, what, when, where and why?

Posted by: You're kidding | August 18, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

It was a free speech forum giving the candidates a chance to present their positions to the audience.
Even if the Obama fans were to eliminate McCain from this forum, Obama, on his own, still would have come out as a salesman who had not done his homework for an important presentation.
I can’t remember a presidential candidate ever giving a more preposterous answer as Obama’s “It’s above my pay grade.”
Of course, the adoring media loved it and called it “nuanced.”
I would suggest a new entry in the Merriam Webster dictionary of the word “nuanced”, euphemism for “flip flop.”

Posted by: Donoke9-10 | August 18, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

Obama’s performance in CA was just awful. McCain looked presidential. Obama looked exactly like the political hack that he is…

Posted by: Jimbo | August 18, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

Isn’t it obvious that the McCain campaign broke the cone of silence and deliberately made Barack Obama sound terrible at Saddleback?
Only losers accuse their opponents of cheating, so I guess that means the Obama campaign understands that Obama lsot.
So true!

Posted by: gl | August 18, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

I don’t see way being vetted by this purpose driven nut is so important. But, that’s America today. Used to be called pandering. Obama’s fumbling when off script is nothing new. McCain was passable, no better.

Posted by: mikewolf9 | August 18, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

Makes you wonder, what IS his pay grade ? Higher than necessary, I guess.

Posted by: mikewolf9 | August 18, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

There is scuttlebutt that Georgia was but Putin’s test to see Obama’s response. Better than he had hoped for. Interesting days ahead??

Posted by: Jimbo | August 18, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

LMAO!!
Obama didn’t want to be first, because he could not piggyback on McCain answers like he did with Hillary Clinton’s.
Remember how it went ‘-I agree with Hillary, and blah, blah,(insert her ideas here, changing a few words), blah blah, (insert some nonsense here), blah blah’ (Applause)

Posted by: Rick | August 19, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

gl
If you think that the dems are really for everybody take a good look at the major cities of this country, especially Detroit and Cleveland. Dems have controlled the governments in those cities for decades … AND THEY CONTINUE TO BE A DISASTER. ONE WOULD THINK THAT YOU PEOPLE WOULD SOMEHOW WAKE UP!!!

Posted by: Manitu | August 19, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

“I am not like some whites who will never vote for a black person to be the President.
Posted by: gl | Aug 19, 2008 12:19:59 AM
________________
Nor am I!
But Barack Obama is N O T a Colin Powell!!!!

Posted by: EYES OPENING | August 19, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

Monday night, 655pm, during World News Tonight…
Rick Warren advertises his book.
First time in a long time. An expensive buy. Maybe.
Or did Charlie Gibson suggest it?

Posted by: kravitz | August 19, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Until Saturday i was a strong Obama supporter because he was a different kind of politician. After seeing him bob and weave with each question he has proven to me he is just another politicain. Say anything to win. It’s depressing but I don’t know what he stands for anymore, if anything. At least McCain says what he believes.

Posted by: Dan | August 19, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Obama is not up yet becasue of Hilliary angry supporters. I can not wait until this convention is over and Hillilary angry supporters have to let go of their dream and support Obama.

Posted by: gl | August 19, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

gl…that’s right, all us angry Hillary supporters are just going to join hands and sing Obama’s praises after the convention….NOT. Many thousands of us will be backing Senator John Sydney McCain and that’s a fact, as much as many Obots want to think otherwise. Can’t wait til the analysis is done after Obama loses and they see it was the women voter block that was Obama’s problem…..we HILLARY SUPPORTERS FOR McCAIN!

Posted by: Debra | August 19, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

Except for the abortion question, Obama did a great job with the questions. It was a difficult answer for a pro-choice candidate, but he needed to phrase it better. The answers were far better rounded and more intellectual. McCain’s answers were war and more war.
McCain “I will chase bin Laden to the gates of hell,” is his standard stump farce. I know how to get bin Laden and win wars, but you have to elect me first before I will share my genesis.
I do not know why General Petraeus is at the top of his list since McCain already knows how to do something that Petraeus has not been able to accomplish.

Posted by: Julie | August 19, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

I can’t believe believe that some people think it do not matter if McCain had known the questions before hand or not, he still appear strong and presidential. The matter is INTEGRITY.

Posted by: steve | August 19, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am

What’s up with Barack Obama bringing up armed conflict with China, just for kicks? Why would that be at the top of his head? And of all weeks to pay lip service to “Bosnia”–first Hillary takes a dive talking about “sniper fire,” and now this. Troublemakers.

Posted by: marge | August 19, 2008, 3:08 am 3:08 am

McCain thinks five million a year is considered tobe rich then I am not even poor just invisible. He thought the country was showing growth and prosperity until he left the bubble he lives in and realized people are suffering. My family and our friends want a president the knows the price of gas, mild, bread, and understands how energy and waste are problems we don’t want to leave our childen. I was born and raised republican, but I am never making that mistake again. Fool me once its on you fool me twice it’s on me. I was fooled again and again by the republicans, but will not be fooled again.

Posted by: Lorraine, NC | August 19, 2008, 4:52 am 4:52 am

People hate Obama because he has a platform and substance. They hate Obama because he is smarter than McCain on every issue. People hate McCain because he’s McCain..Straight (narrow) talk (lies) that prove one thing. Age doesnt make him wise it just makes him a better liar.

Posted by: Lorraine, NC | August 19, 2008, 5:17 am 5:17 am

The Obama Blame Game is wearing really thin. Obama turns in yet another abyssmal performance when he actually has to answer questions as opposed to reading a teleprompter. Then it’s everybody’s fault but his. Choose one:
a. His opponent cheated
b. The forum was biased against him
c. The moderator was biased against him
d. All of the above
So you’re basically admitting that Obama can only perform well when everything is completely fair and balanced with no chance of Obama being hoodwinked and bamboozled. I’m sure America’s worst enemies will be glad to know of your confidence in the abilities of this potential POTUS.

Posted by: marylou | August 19, 2008, 6:05 am 6:05 am

i am voting mccain BECAUSE he is not obama, oops, soetoro.

Posted by: tr | August 19, 2008, 6:07 am 6:07 am

This whole “cone of silence” controversy was cooked up by Axelrod to deflect examination of Obama’s answers at the forum. Most notably -
When he just caught himself from saying that Clarence Thomas didn’t have the EXPERIENCE to be appointed to the Supreme Court.
When he said that determining the time life starts was ABOVE HIS PAYGRADE.
When he said that two of the wisest people he knows, whose council he seeks before making major decisions, were MICHELLE and his typical white GRANDMA.
These answers from one who would lead our nation through these troubled times do not inspire confidence in voters. Conversely, John McCain’s answers were straightforward and without flinching. Agree with him or not, you know where he stands, and his performance inspired confidence in voters that America will be in good hands under a President McCain.

Posted by: marylou | August 19, 2008, 6:10 am 6:10 am

The party that starts looking for implausible and unprovable conspiracy theories about the opposition candidate is in trouble.

Posted by: Sally J. | August 19, 2008, 6:52 am 6:52 am

For all those who voted for and wanted Hillary to be the nominee for our Party (as I am one of those)but are upset because she did not get the nod,get over it please it is your type who will cross over and vote for a party (I have nothing personnally against McCain,I am sure he is a decent man)but the Republican party in of itself is the thing people should be very upset with not the fact your person did not win the nomination. Please pick up your ball and be good sports. Do not make the worst mistake of your life by voting for Mccain and continuing the assault on our countries integity and you own sensibilites.Democracts need to unite or go down in defeat in more ways than one.Remember these words if mcCain becomes President God forbid any of my Sons have to fight needless wars in the name of my country. God Bless us all.

Posted by: Victor | August 19, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am

In my opinion, I wish the Church could steer clear of Politics. America is Multi-racial and Multi-religious.
The President of the United States presides over the whole Country. Churches should serves as wise and moral counsels to Politicians and not institute a semblance of debates.
When a Church tries to enter the murky waters of Politics, this is what happens.
It is like a Chicken that perches on a rope. There will be no rest for the Rope and neither will there be for the Chicken.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | August 19, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

The morning news shows have already … though grudgingly … declared John McCain the winner of the forum and Andrea Mitchell is apparently hiding in her cave; no mouthy remarks from her lately. The question now is this: When John McCain is elected President; will Obama still have a job … anywhere?

Posted by: Back From Iraq | August 19, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

Whether he saw the questions before hand would be revealed in the coming days, weeks or months before the General Elections.
And be sure that Americans would feel let down by Mccain, who they expect to be above board.
And this singular act of deceit will cost him the Elections by a wide margin.
So if some of you paid surrogates of Mccain are on this blog, kindly advise him to be Man enough to own up.
Its only human for him to watch or listen in. If it were to be Obama that was running late by half-an-hour, I’m sure he would have listen in or gladly receive heads-ups from his campaign Staff through his Blackberries.
We are all human that is one of the numerous ways makes God Supreme. God is infallible but we are fallible.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | August 19, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am

I really liked the ‘above my paygrade’ comment. It showed at the same time that he highly respects the opinions of both scientists and theologians, and that it isn’t his job to play God. Meanwhile McCain has a pat answer to a question that has befuddled both for centuries (you wouldn’t know it from the media but this is actually not settled doctrine for most theologians).

Posted by: Mike | August 19, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

War is worse than abortion.
remember that simple fact.
it will help you penetrate the cone of silence.

Posted by: Chuck Darling | August 19, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Obama should learn to speak a laymans language. someone has just explained his ‘above my paygrade’ comment at Saddleback. “It showed at the same time that he highly respects the opinions of both scientists and theologians, and that it isn’t his job to play God”. The question of when a foetus is entitled to ‘human right’ is an unsettled question among theologians but the press are not telling us that. What I initially thought was a dodging of the question was indeed a very thoughful answer.

Posted by: Daniel | August 19, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Let’s not forget we are talking about a man who lied on national tv about wearing body armor during his infamous Baghdad market trip. He even said that Patraeus rode around in an unamored vehicle.
Some are saying the man would not lie simply because he was a POW. Does it get any more incredible than that?

Posted by: MsSwin | August 19, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

“McCain thinks five million a year is considered tobe rich then I am not even poor just invisible.”
Rich is not a figure question. It is a lifestyle question. Given a principal of some n dollars, how large does that n have to be to generate enough income to enable you to live at some target lifestyle without touching the principal and you not having to work?
Hint: Not being required to work is a pretty common definition of ‘rich’., that is, you can live on your investments.
Remember, you have to pay for all of the necessaries your employer is paying for right now such as health insurance, your kids college, etc. etc. etc.
You may find out you aren’t just invisible, you’re turning into a black hole. $5 million properly invested will keep that from happening.

Posted by: len | August 19, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Is it a fact that Pastor Warren was under the impression that Senator McCain was in an adjoing room when Senator Obama was being asked questions? Is it a fact that Senator McCain was in reality riding in his motorcade during at least part of the time of Obama’s questioning? Is it plausible that Senator McCain, and not the Senator himself, could have “seen and/or heard” the Obama segment and shared it with whoever was intersted?! These are simple, and not nuanced questions, that desrve simple answers. At a more substantive level, yes, Senator McCain gave straight answers, but not the questions that were asked! Whenever a presidential candidate oversimplifies the issues of faith and religion, it makes me nervous. Religious fanatics often do that. I know Senator McCain is not a fanatic. Was he than playing to the gallery. That too makes me nervous.

Posted by: saif1028 | August 19, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

All the phoney indignation of Republicans at McCHEATER getting caught, will pale to their indignation when they read Obama is gaining in polls, in battleground States that no one EVER thought would be challenged there, by a Democratic candidate.
Read and Weep.
Obama went into the belly of the BEAST at Saddleback Church in Orange County where 75% voted for Cheney/Bush TWICE.
Where would you Republicans like your next IMPARTIAL debate, Haliburton Board Room, Pfizer’s Lobby, or Exxon oil rig?

Posted by: mark | August 19, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Barry lost!! Even if he had a disadvantage on the questions, and I haven’t heard one bit of factual evidence to lend credence to this accusation, he is supposed to be SUPERIOR in all respects.
He is not!
Did Senator Obama say that a TYPICAL BLACK PERSON can’t qualify to be on the supreme court of the US? Justice Thomas grew up in Pinpoint and Savanna Georgia and faced REAL prejudice in his life unlike Barack Obama growing up in multicultural Hawaii and Jakarta with few to no blacks or prejudice against blacks.
I would put up Justice Thomas’ professional and life experiences to Barack’s any day!!!
Justice Thomas could have easily beaten Senator Obama at Saddleback or in any forum/debate!!

Posted by: HANK4 | August 19, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

Mark, McCain didn’t cheat, he was with the Secret Service and other people. Obama’s people always do this. Everytime, Hillary won a debate, and she won them all, Obama and his thugs threw fits. Many people think the only reason Obama was half way decent in those debates was that she always spoke first and he could say “I agree.”(What was appalling to many of us was that the MSM always had her speak first, because they were and are in the tank for Obama.)
McCain was with Secret Service, another Senator, aides, and Warren’s people. McCain was good, because he is used to a Townhall format. Obama likes to read speeches, that others write for him, from a teleprompter.
Again, the Obama people and the MSM are following their same old, same old tactics. Obama puts out talking points and the MSM spreads his cry-baby crap. I love the letter the McCain campaign sent to NBC/MSNBC boss calling them on Andrea (Mrs.Allan Greenspan) Mitchell’s lack of jounalistic ethics in repeating Obama’s poor-loser crap. (They have asked for a meeting.)
Unfortunately, its really too bad that Obama can’t talk from the heart about matters concerning faith and ethics instead of pandering to the right, left, and everything in between. McCain has bucked the system so many times that he is not afraid to tell people what he thinks and what he has done.
So, Mark, don’t trash an American war hero, because your candidate couldn’t cut it. Anybody in politics should have figured out what kind of questions were going to be asked in that setting. Perhaps Obama should have come back a little earlier from that vacation in Hawaii, especially since he took a break a bit ago.
McCain is an older man, he hasn’t taken a break, and there is film they play of him carrying his own luggage when the media wrote his campaign off. McCain didn’t cry and throw hissey fits. McCain sucked it up, like Clinton did when she was in trouble, and they both proved that they are worthy of the Office of the US Presidency. (It’s the American way.)
If Obama can’t take the heat, as the saying goes, he should get out of the kitchen. This time Americans are going to pick a person who is worthy to be POTUS. Cry-babies needn’t apply.

Posted by: BJinChicago | August 20, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am

I thought McCain was in a sound booth??? He seemed to answer the question before it was asked. Look at the transcript when asked about abortion John McCain says he’s Pro-life (which I don’t doubt,) but I think his senile kicked in because he asked about “going back to the Supreme Court positions” 3 questions before it was asked. I believe he sees into the future.

Posted by: JD | August 20, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Issues related to abortion, medical/research ethics are tied to judicial appointments, which are a priority for McCain. McCain wanted to “get back to” the whole issue; for him talking about abortion IS talking about Supreme Court justices.
Just stating his pro=life stance doesn’t tell the whole story, and that’s why he wanted “to go back” and finish his statement so that people don’t think he wants to stick in a constitutional amendment BANNING abortion nationwide.
HE is pro-life, but he wants individual states to deal with such matters; thus his statements that he is a Federalist.

Posted by: aural margin | August 20, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

Whether someone agrees with McCain’s stance on particular issues or not—there’s no denying that he’s got fire in the belly! You can tell he enjoys learning about new ideas, but he has enough experience to not lose himself in them.
Obama looks like an aspiring, tentative college sophomore in comparison, willful yet eager to please. He’s heard a lot of ideas, a great many of them within the l (sp?) in an effort to figure out what he thinks he is “supposed” to say, what the appropriate tune is for the ambiance of the moment, rather than what he believes. One wonders if he even knows what he believes about most things yet.
Obama isn’t “cooked” enough to have an INITIAL set of specific convictions, much less ones that have been reconsidered and abridged. Too much go, go, go to the next rung on the ladder, no time for the bread to rise.

Posted by: aural margin | August 20, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

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