Son would vote for Biden as VP from Iraq
ABC’s Z. Byron Wolf reports from Wilmington, DE: If Sen. Joe Biden is selected as Sen. Obama’s running mate, his son Beau (that’s short for Joseph Robinette Biden III) would have the opportunity to vote for his Dad from a war zone.
Beau Biden, who followed his father into politics and serves as Attorney General in Delaware, is also a JAG Captain in the Delaware National Guard. His unit, the 261st Signal Brigade, was notified last year that they would deploy overseas.
While the exact date has not been set, Beau Biden’s yearlong deployment to Iraq will start sometime in September or October, with a short introductory posting, probably in Texas, according to Officer Candidate Nathan Bright, spokesman for the Delaware National Guard.
As a serving elected official, Biden could feasibly apply for a waiver, but Bright said Biden has not done so and is set to deploy.
Beau Biden is the Senators oldest son. He and his brother Robert were both badly injured in the 1972 car accident that took the lives of his baby sister Amy and mother, Neilia Hunter, Sen. Biden’s first wife.
Biden had another daughter Ashley with his second wife Jill.
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I’m liking Biden more and more. had no clue he had a son that was being deployed.
Posted by: Kevin | August 19, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
…still holding out hope it will be Tony Zinni.
Biden wouldn’t be the worst pick, but I’d take Bayh, or even Sebellius over him.
Posted by: Paul | August 19, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
BIDEN ALL THE WAY FOR VP!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: angie | August 19, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
or have his vote disqualified because it had no postmark. (see Al Gore -2000 election)
Posted by: geevill | August 19, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
I really like Biden. I also like Colin Powell if Obama should cross lines.
Posted by: becky | August 19, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
What an uninspiring pick. I guess The Obama camp could not convince Chuck Hagel to run on the ticket.
Posted by: Stresscrete | August 19, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Okay, Dan – So having a son serving in Iraq qualifies someone to be elected President (or Vice President) without any question, but especially if the son is a “grunt” and not an Officer. Those are the rules, that’s the criteria. Got it!!
Posted by: geecee | August 19, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Does Biden still want to partition Iraq into three states? I hope that won’t be our policy if they are elected. Oh I forgot……..Obama was not successful in preventing the surge so no civil war and no need to partiton. Phew.
Posted by: Jacknyc | August 19, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
The more I hear of Biden the more I like him. He’s also a GREAT debater. I would beat money he would beat any Republican VP candidate in a debate.
Biden cancels out McCain.
I hope McCain choses Romney.
Posted by: Vanessa | August 19, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Dan: “Biden’s son is a lawyer who would be nowhere near the front lines.”
Its an occupation, which by its nature becomes an assymetric area of operations. There’s no front lines.
That said, a JAG in the Green Zone can expect to have a higher degree of safety than folks out in Anbar, as you suggest. But the Green Zone hasn’t been completely safe, being an occassional target for mortar rounds.
Posted by: Paul | August 19, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Is this McCain supporters saying McCain’s son can beat up Biden’s son?
Have we really come to this?
Posted by: Paul | August 19, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Folks, brush up on your Mesopotamian history. The Assyrians (northern Iraq) and the Babylonians (middle, southern Iraq) were at war constantly. It took a dictator like Hussein to hold the place in the road. Sen. Biden’s idea about partitioning Iraq is an excellent one.
Posted by: Caribel | August 19, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
On a personal note “Dan” is correct…Biden’s kid will be no where near the “zone.” Biden would be an excellent choice, from the Repubs point of view…Biden is pushing 1 billion dollars for Georgia reconstruction and aid…but the dems are saying we need to get out of Iraq because it is costing us too much in lives and money..that goes against everything they have been campaigning on…Charity begins at home…not our fight…not our business…
Posted by: CuriousIndep | August 19, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Paul – I agree about Tony Zinni. I was wishing Obama would have chosen him, but there didn’t seem to be any mention of him at all during the entire “vetting” process. I think it would have “reassured” people who think Obama is weak on national security. But Biden is a good alternate choice and I would be happy with him, too. As for Colin Powell, he may not be chosen as a possible V.P., but I do believe he is for Obama!
Posted by: geecee | August 19, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Don’t count out HILLARY CLINTON just yet. She and BILL are the heart and soul of the party!! HILLARY, HILLARY, HILLARY!!
Posted by: Jacknyc | August 19, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
geecee – Zinni was on the original list of 16 or so names. I haven’t heard any talk of him since, either. Of course that doesn’t mean much. Remember the people who know how the issue was progressing weren’t the ones talking about it.
We do know that Obama chose a national security theme for the night the running mate would be speaking. That’s what started the Biden speculation. But it could point to anyone with a military/national security/foreign policy background.
Posted by: Paul | August 19, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Biden should be the president, not serving Zero-bama as VP.
Posted by: fact check | August 19, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Kitty litter: “For McCain’s son it was either the Army or jail. That’s why McCain rarely mentions he son in Iraq.”
Jimmy McCain is a Marine, not a soldier. I doubt he was given a choice of prison or the Corps, as I don’t believe judges have done that since the 1970s.
Say what you want about the candidate, but there’s no reason to spew hatred at his children. From what I’ve heard, the younger McCain has had a troubled time, with drugs and getting kicked out of prestigious high schools, etc. But its not like he was out of options – remember he’s from a family with money.
He probably enlisted in the Corps in an attempt to straighten himself out, which is a positive attribute in my book.
Posted by: Paul | August 19, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
fact check – sometimes I don’t get the impression you are completely objective here, lol.
Posted by: Paul | August 19, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
jacknyc — I think Bill Clinton being the heart of the “party” was part of the problem. He’s gone from fairly good President to good ex-President to “the guy with the lampshade on his head.”
Posted by: obamamama | August 19, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
I would like to give credit to anyone who joins the service, regardless if their dad is in public office. It is a sacrifice of time, income and with a republican administration in office…perhaps getting sent to fight in a country that the administration decides to overthrow for corporate interests.
Posted by: pd | August 19, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
PD…overthrow for corporate interests???…YEAH RIGHT..gas at 3.89 a gal…wholesale prices up….unemployment, you name it, it’s up, except for the stock market, which reflects corporate health which is down….try arguing on another issue, that one falls flat..
Posted by: CuriousIndep | August 19, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
If Biden is so great how come nobody voted for him in the primaries?
Posted by: geevill | August 19, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
It is refreshing to know the child of a U.S. senator, who comes from a multi-millionaire family, volunteered for the U.S. Marines. I wonder how many McCain critics have served, or if they are wealthy would agree to have their children serve. It’s amazing how easy it is to sit in comfortable surroundings and demonize those you don’t support. Being in battle is hell, whether you are a member of the JAG or a “Grunt.” I salute young Mr. McCain (the Marine) and young Mr. Biden (the lawyer). By the way, I did my 29 years and 9 months of active duty before retiring; having enlisted in 1956, out of Selma, Alabama, where I could not even vote because of the color of my skin. But, because I am a McCain supported, I suppose I’ll be labeled, threatened and told how stupid I am.
Posted by: Percy | August 19, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Biden Makes McCain look like an amateur when it comes to foreign policy and national security.
Posted by: krista | August 19, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Didn’t Biden say that Obama didn’t have enough experience to be Commander in Chief. He said it isn’t a something you learn “on the job”.
He trashed Obama’s non-experience during the primary debates.
And Percy – Condi Rice tells the story of how her father registered Republican because the Democrats wouldn’t let him register.
Posted by: susie | August 19, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Been following Biden closely since the spring of last year (knew he was my favorite for prez shortly thereafter).
To answer geevill’s question…
(1) Biden was the ‘second choice’ of a lot of voters – who already had their hearts set on Hillary or Obama. Uphill battle for anyone trying to run this cycle (i.e., Edwards, Richardson, Dodd, etc.)
(2) Iowa and its archaic caucus system was set to sink his campaign before it started – just look what it did to Hillary. If New Hampshire was first – or Iowa simply had a primary format – Hillary wins (I think). Biden, who had measured support in rural eastern Iowa, could have finished third or a strong fourth.
So, basically, he never GOT to the primaries. Remember Richardson (God love him)’s camp proclaiming they had made the ‘Final Four’ (with 4% maybe) in New Hampshire?
Anyway… I’m ecstatic with the possibility of Joe’s VP selection coming to fruition. His foreign policy credentials are second to none and Americans have only had a sneak preview of his ability to combat GOP attacks.
My friends and family have long tired of me bragging on this Biden character. Help me out here, O!
Posted by: D-Mac | August 19, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Can I get an answer here? Do we know if Biden is still in favor of partitioning Iraq? Can we get that answer? Also..if not, why not? And what is different now from when he proposed it over and over in ’07. I won’t hold my breath.
Posted by: Jacknyc | August 19, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
If Biden is so great how come nobody voted for him in the primaries?
Posted by: geevill | Aug 19
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Because 0-bama skillfully framed him as a racist on the very day when Biden announced his candidacy, for the freeking God sake of praising the phony articulate.
0-bama killed Biden’s campaign before it ever gets started.
Posted by: fact check | August 19, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Geevill,
I was a volunteer for Biden in Iowa. As it turned out, there were a lot of people here who were in love with the idea of “making history”, either by nominating a Woman or an African American.
Then there is the problem that in this day of channel surfing and web surfing few people have the attention span any more to listen to someone who is actually explaining complicated issues like Joe Biden does. Many of these “attention span-challenged people” apparently wet to hear Obama.
After the caucases here many were then congratulating themselves that a mostly white state had nominated a black man for president.
I also had the opportunity to meet with Joe’s son Beau, and was very favorably impressed with him.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | August 19, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
LOL @ the Hillary supporters still cheering for her chance to be president. News Flash: The Clinton Express has already left the station and is heading towards Obamaville at 120 MPH.
So you can stop dancing on the tracks with your megaphones and pom-poms, unless you want to look like the HRC equivalent of the Spartan Cheerleaders.
Posted by: Paul | August 19, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Biden would be the best VP choice Obama could make. I like him, he has the foreign policy cred and he’s a feisty competitor. Obama needs an attack dog on his team, and Biden could easily take on McSurge’s smear and fear swift boaters, and win the fight hands down. I really hope Obama is as smart as I think he is and he chooses Biden.
Posted by: Sue H | August 19, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Please spare me that McCain doesn’t mention his son’s service. He has. And after saying he’d never use his POW experience to gain political points, he has. I mean, I probably would, too – but I wouldn’t be such a dunce as to say I wouldn’t in the first place. He’s a hypocrite.
Posted by: Lauren | August 19, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Obama is such a FRAUD!!!! – This guy will NEVER be elected so who cares who he picks as VP – maybe Rev. Wright would be a good choice!
Posted by: Molly | August 19, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
McCain has seven children. From the first marriage with Carol, he has two sons and a daughter. The two sons are actually Carol’s sons from a former marriage who McCain adopted. One of those sons had served in the army. From his second marriage to Cindy, he has four children. Two sons (one in the Marines and one in the Navy) and two daughters (the youngest of whom is adopted from Bangladesh).
Posted by: McCain Kids | August 19, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
You forgot the other 2 kids from McCain’s relationship with Vicky Iseman. A total of 9 kids that we know of.
Posted by: Anne | August 19, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
I don’t care who Obama picks. I will never vote for him. I hope people wake up before it is too late and realize he is NOT right for America. People should remember Obama’s questionable associates……this speaks volumes as to what poor judgment he has. He can’t answer a question in less than 10 minutes. Foreign dicators will rejoice if this man is elected. He is too weak, inexperienced, and arrogant. Remember his Berlin appearance? Remember Rev. Wright? Who in their right mind would stay in that church for 20 years????
Posted by: Mack | August 19, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
“I didn’t decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president.
John McCain, Worth the Fighting For (2002), p. 373
Posted by: abraham lincoln | August 20, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
“Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”
– Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | August 20, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
What a neocon nightmare McBush and Lieberman. We would be bomb bomb bomb Iran in no time flat. McInsane wants to ramp-up the cold war again. What a corporate payoff that would be. Never ending war is good business. Wake-up and stop being stooges for the Republican party. They keep the masses fooled by wedge issues and dishonesty. But not this year, not this election. The American people will fix this mess they will elect Barack Obama.
Posted by: margoharris | August 20, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN CORRUPTION!!
DEMOCRATS FOR 2008!!
Posted by: voter | August 20, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
Can someone serve twice as Veep? Then my choice is Al Gore
Posted by: exatlantic | August 21, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
I am getting tired of the noise and frenzy. McCain is closing in on Obama because everyone pays attention to the slurs and dirtiness of politics rather than what matters. Electioneering can probably be equated to alcohol or drugs. Therefore, Mccain’s attacks and Obama’s unresponsiveness makes him look good and Obama is depicted as a lame-duck. You see folks, in politics percepetion matters most. Obama must get this through his thick head and come out from behind the highroad. I don’t advocate taking the low road, but I certainly advocate that he shows more gus and gusto in his message and shut down the ‘you knows’ and the ‘ahms’ and punch harder. I do not advocate gutter politics. What I urge Obama to do is to put some punch and force in his deliveries. is he getting threats from somewhere? Is he getting tired? Come on Obama, where is your fiery spirit. Why let that dirty old man put you to shame every time he speaks?
Posted by: exatlantic | August 21, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
How dare John McCain belittle a child’s looks publicly? (Chelsea Clinton).
McCain is low-class in every way.
Cindy McCain must be a behind-closed-doors abused wife (remember John publicly called her a c**t and a trollop?).
Chunky Meghan McCain looks like her father in a wig, so John should STFU.
Posted by: T. | August 21, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
John McCain…Low Class? Before typing such garbage think about what you’re saying. He’s the son of an Admiral, decorated war veteran, figher pilot and suffered as a prisoner of war for 5 years of “real” torture not to mention an elected official in the US Congress (2 terms) US Senate (3 terms) representing the people of an entire state (multiple times).
Is your thinking so warped that if someone puts their “actual” life in danger to protect YOUR country and rights and returns to serve the public as an elected representative for decades more of his life, rather than complain & protest, he deserves such comments from you. What have you done with your life? I doubt it would compare.
Posted by: Allen | August 22, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Hey T, your hero wasn’t protecting our country. He was bombing innocense children and families in Vietnam. The War in Vietnam another mistake. Just like Iraq will be for USA. McCan is 72 yrs and has had his life and years. Let him out to the pasture and live in his 10 homes. He will not do anything for the American Middle Class. He is the Republican machine, same as Rove,Arnie, Bush, Cheney, its all about power and to continue the GOP road to ruin. Bush showed you the way and you still paddle up stream. McCain lost to Bush, enough said. He is the leftovers. HOw did you Right wingers pick this ancient man with Bush dirt under his nails.
Posted by: McCa | August 23, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
Well having a son in Iraq may not qualify you for VP but having a number of sons NOT in Iraq and then using the excuse that they have to help get you elected as pres and when that fails they do not go to Iraq should disqualify you.
See:Romney
How many Republicans in the Senate can you name with a son in Iraq
Posted by: jim | August 24, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
opps.. missed McCain
Posted by: jim | August 24, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
NO WAR PLEASE…….PIECE!
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Posted by: fhands | August 24, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
Joe Biden was a good choice for VP.
Posted by: Free Xbox 360 | August 24, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
Percy:
McCain, in his heart, wishes you still couldn’t vote.
Posted by: Erik | August 24, 2008, 4:39 am 4:39 am
Having a son in a warzone does in fact make one more qualified to be president (or vice-president). It certainly causes one to consider more carefully the consequences of going to war.
Posted by: Dan | August 24, 2008, 5:37 am 5:37 am
They should have shut up about the kid being an officer with JAG.
That doesn’t impress a lot of vets, honestly.
Sounds like a kid riding on daddy’s shoulders.
Posted by: Yawn | August 25, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Palin’s kid, a regular grunt going into combat. Biden’s kid, a protected little panty boy Officer playing lawyer in the green zone. ‘Nuff said.
Posted by: Mark | September 9, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Nice one, Mark. Denigrating the service of one of the troops. How very patriotic of you. How typical of today’s GOP.
Posted by: Court Jester | September 9, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm