Stephanopoulos: No Roll Call Vote for Clinton?

Voting and elections aren’t that hard to figure out! Someone gets the most votes-that is the winner. Someone gets the least votes-that is the loser. The idea that you must somehow “soothe” the loser’s in some way is ridiculous! Grow up, LOSER’S!!!Get over it!

I think neil1785 is either a dumb stupid idiot or a troll.
Clinton should be encouraging everyone to put the primary behind them. An in your face roll call vote doesn’t do that. As far as I’m concerned, she’s picking a scab. Concede already. If Republicans love her so much, (LOL), they should nominate her as VP at their convention. Otherwise, it’s none of their business.

Obviously smarter then you who can’t seem to find your cap locks key and feels the need to post in duplicate.

Strike One: Rather than embrace the positive legacy of the Clinton years, he choses to discredit it to keep spotlight on himself.
Strike Two: Obama selects Biden as his VP, ignoring 18 million voters and his own Democratic Convention delegates who wanted Hillary on the ticket.
Strike Three: Obama officials now pressuring Clinton supporters to opt for nomination by acclamation rather than having a roll call vote to assure all support for Hillary is nullified.
Obama is OUT! Ballgame over!

So much for Freedom of Speech…

Ed, you must not remember history too well. Gore got many more votes but he lost the White House.

The nominee is supposed to get a specified number of delegates. So far NO ONE has voted.

Anybody throwing a Hillary hissy fit needs to think about the damage this will visit on Senator Clinton.
See — http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/healing-heartsick-hillary-holdouts/

There doesn’t seem to be much point in a roll call, as far as I’m concerned. It’s over. Clinton supporters should be focused on what is best for the country at this point. Further, if they support Clinton so passionately, perhaps a share of them should donate $1 or $2 to help her pay off her debt.
Whenever the talk centers on experience, I have to ask, what experience does McCain have? He’s been in Congress for nearly 30 years, but what has he done while there? He certainly doesn’t have a clear understanding of domestic issues, which are very critical right now. His understanding of international issues seems rudimentary at best. He seems to completely miss the role of diplomacy–a serious red flag as we continue with two wars.

I voted for Hillary in the primary but was so umimpressed with the way she managed her campaign to say nothing of her organization that I grew to have doubts of her management of the executive branch of government. She has been a terrific senator for NY and I hope that Obama uses her talents and intelligence when he becomes president; I always thought she would be better in a position other than veep.

SO WHAT WOULD THE OBAMA CAMP DO– IF THE DELEGATES ALL SIMPLY STOOD UP AND VOTED “PRESENT” AT THE CONVENTION?!!

Yep, Obama doesn’t have all the Dumocrat vote– and never will. When are the Obamazoids going to stop trying to blame the absence of those votes on Hillary Clinton? They, in their blind fervor, seem not to understand that it is entirely possible to dislike Obama based on his lack of experience, his flipflopping, and his immaturity, and to find him to be an unsuitable candidate? I would guess it’s because it’s easier to blame Obama’s flagging polls on the Clintonistas than it is to face reality! Long before Bambi was anointed (certainly not elected) as the candidate, the polls showed he couldn’t beat McCain; nonetheless, the Dums chose him anyway (doh!) and now seem to be astonished that there is a statistical tie when they should be ahead of the Repugs by double digits.
I’m an unaffiliated voter (don’t belong to any party at all), and am disgusted by the choices facing me in November. I’ve voted in every election since 1968, and there have been a number of “lesser of two evils” choices over the years, but none quite as disturbing as this one. My choice of candidates, if I vote this time, has absolutely nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. In simple terms, I’m holding my nose and voting for John McNutcase because The Chosen One lacks the both credentials and the experience to do the job.
OUTSOURCE THE PRESIDENCY! It’s the best choice!

The party and pundits just don’t get it. Senator Obama will not receive the votes of Clinton Democrats because he is unqualified to be President. Experience matters especially for the job of President. Senator Clinton could be his running mate and we still wouldn’t vote for him.
Since June 3rd, Senator Obama has made one gaffe after another. He has terrible judgment and cannot take a stand on anything. This is why he has two positions on every issue.
I am a Puma Pac member. Short of a miracle with Senator Clinton as the nominee, we will be voting for Senator McCain in November. Obama bought off the superdelegates to push him over the delegate finish line and he is spending money like mad. He spent over $6.5 million dollars in FL and he is still losing to McCain.
One more thing, we are fighting the corrupt DP leaders that gamed and frontloaded the primaries to select Obama. Pelosi and Dean are corrupt politicians.

The DNC has been most undemocratic. They have done all they could to shipwreck Hillary and select Obama. But that doeasn’t mean I have to select Obama. I want a President with a clear record of putting America First. That’s Hillary or McCain ! American Patriots will unite and won’t let this country be sabatoged! PUMA’s will put country first!

I have been against the roll call when it was first reported.She shouldn’t get a roll call. The woman couldn’t even concede the night she lost the race.
No. Time for some come-up-ins

Clintons putting the country first…ha ha…the absolute funniest thing I read in my entire life.

Thanks Hillary for giving McCain so many talking points. Right or not, you’ll get the blame if Obama loses, and you deserve it.

The DNC owes it to the 18Million voters of Hillary Clinton to have their voices heard in a roll call vote. Obama must be running scared that he will not be nominated at the convention. Not having the roll call will never unite the party. Obama will never win the White House without Hillary’s supporters and he has now alienated anyone of them that might have voted for him. Obama is very indecisive -a quality America doesn’t need in a President. This is a moral outrage and should not be tolerated by the delegates of the DNC.
The Democrats are going to lose the election. A election that was handed to them on a silver platter.
Obama has now thrown his potential Presidency under the bus.

AMERICANS FOR McCAIN!
NEVER BARACK HUSSEIN.
Poor Hillary has to give a speech through clenched teeth….her passion will be hard to detect, but she will do what she has to for Dems….so glad I don’t have to.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!!!!

Libby
Senator Obama is responsible for making his own case to the American public. “The buck stops with Obama.”

Rose
If you write in Hillary’s name, it is basically a vote for Obama. If you want Obama to lose, you must vote for McCain.

Clinton was the stronger candidate but Obama was better.
In the end Clinton lost. You republicans posing as democrats are just trying to make a fool of Hilary supporters.

The last few days have taken us back to the days after the Primaries. I am surprise with all the attacks on Obama. Some saying he is incompetent, some on his race. Take it or leave it when Gramm said we are a country of whiners, he was referring to the Democrats. I must admit it, the Republican party speaks for itself, they are more intelligent, richer, smarter and better at running campaigns but DISASTERS at running the country but they always win. There are more Democrats than Republicans, yet the Republicans always win. They nominated a senile, unintelligent old man to come and run the country and he may just win. I cant imagine my grand-father taking decisions for me. I definitely have to start saving for the next four years because its going to be real HELL. Tell me how stupid can we be? We all admit the country is in a mess and someone comes in offering the same policies that we have had for the past eight years and tell us that the person who is definitely offering the better policy will be a disaster for the country and yet we still believe. If there is anyone drinking any Kool-aid, it is the DEMOCRATS. What a SHAME.

ALBERTMIKE YOU DON’T LIKE WHATS THERE RATHER THAN GO AGAINST MY PARTY I WOULKD STAY HOME OR WRITE IN WHOM YOU PREFER….SARAB. WE LOVE HILLARY THE 8 YEARS HER HUBBY WAS IN OFFICE PEOPLE WERE WORKING AND MAKING MONEY ,, WEE WERE AT PEACE, NO ONE WAS DYING OR GETING MAIMED IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY AND NO ONE WAS LOSING THEIR JOBS AND OR HOMES … A VOTE FOR JOHN SYDNEYMCBUSH IS A VOTE FOR 4 MOREYEARS OF WHAT THE LAST 8 WERE THE LORD BETTER PRAY FOR US IT LOOKS LIOKE THE CITIZENS FORGOT HOW TO PRAY.

YOGA82
WHY WOULD A VOTE FOR HILLARY NOT COUNT FOR HILLARY SINCE WHEN DOES A CANDIDATE HAVE TO HAVE A PARTY BACKING THEM?

I’m not going to spend much time on this blog because most of the people are not having an intellectual discussion. I will leave my one post to make my voice heard and then say good night.
I am a Democrat who is voting for McCain because Obama is nowhere near experienced enough to run the country.

Poor Hillary has to give a speech through clenched teeth….her passion will be hard to detect, but she will do what she has to for Dems….so glad I don’t have to.
Posted by: Debra
So what you’re saying is that Hillary is bitter because she lost, nice. I’m not sure she’d like to be portrayed like that. You’re making her out to be a bitch.

Neil from your posts I swear you’re a female or else a metrosexual.

It makes no sense to me that someone who supported a pro-choice, let’s work on getting universal health-care etc. senator (Clinton), could turn around and vote for anti-choice, let’s bomb the rest of the world, I could give a damn about the middle-class senator (McCain). I just don’t understandwhat good that accomplishes. 4 more years of crap because your candidate lost.

Hillary/bloomburg 08
Obama not qualified:: Joe Biden, white house no place for on the job training::Joe Biden, JOe Biden is a liar and a hypocrite for serving with the friend of terrorist, Obama

Wow some of you really need to take your meds.

If there was no roll call it would be because Hillary asked for it.
The fact is she did the roll call because she wanted to stick up for her supporters who wanted it…
The problem is a small percentage of her supporters have kept up with comments like neil on here…who I think everyone is pretty sure is crazy.
but between PUMA and people like that she is now getting blamed for a few self-centered whack jobs…
and yes it is hurting her numbers…badly …in NY for ehr senate seat…
because a group she can’t control …that is so emoitional and weird…
who said they were fighting for issues and people suddenly through peopel and issues under the bus for their own spiteful weirdness.
that is the problem…Hillary thought her supporters were angry but smart and good enough to put issues and the welfare of the people those issues effect ahead of themselves…
and she was right for the most part outside a few people that can’t come down after a long primary.
sad… they will destroy their candidate before they get a grip on themselves.
and that is not spin.

whackos…hillary must be so sad right now…
you all have taken what she achieved and turned it into comments like Neil1785′s.

if this is united then united we fall….I will not pull the lever for Obama/Biden…NEVER. McCain is not sleazy and he’s faking the whole GOP out until he gets in office and i can leave with an independent president which is essentially what we’ll be getting- McCain 08!!!!

If Barak Hussein Obama wins in November, it will be highly unlikely that Hillary will ever get the opportunity to run for president. However, if Obama loses, McCain will be 76 years old when he runs for re-election in 2012. Hillary will be a shoo in for the Democratic nomination in 2012. Therefore, vote for Obama if you want to make sure Hillary can never run for president. If you want to see a Hillary Clinton presidency, vote for McCain in November.

GroversCorners
Great point, except that Hillary was supposed to be a shoo-in for the 2008 nomination. Some people are just tired of the Clintons and the baggage that they bring with them.

Neil1785
gotta say I wish this once I was right in front of you.
some of the things coming out of your mouth sound like a raving animal.

I thought Obama’s supporters wanted to adhere to the process. This isn’t “uncommon” to have a roll call or put a candidate into nomination…my goodness, it would be “uncommon” not to do so. Why are you all wanting to circumvent the process? Oh, well, I guess for the same reason Obama blocked a revote in FL/MI. Oh, I guess for the same reason caucus fraud was ignored. Win any way you can,…he couldn’t block Hillary from having her name on the ballot as he did to opponents in the Il. State Senate race, but he uses any tactics at his disposal. What a weak guy….geeezzzz
If Obama supporters want their candidate to win in November….hmmmm.., you might try not using profanity and condescension towards Hillary and her supporters going forward. The vitriol you spew certainly isn’t advantageous to your candidate. I recall during the primary the Obama supporters being the first and most vociferous when they proclaimed they would never vote for Hillary if she were the nominee. Do you remember????

I am one of those Clinton women who will not support Barack Obama. I like Biden okay, but it is difficult to do what I complained about the last eight years…vote for someone I have little faith in because of the party. Bush was elected twice that way and was not prepared to be President and I can’t vote now simply because of party politics for someone who is not prepared for the position. (About the same time Obama said he thought the war was wrong, he also said he would not be running for President in 2008 because he would not have enough experience, but he forgets to mention that now). What will I do…still deciding whether to stay home (which I have never missed a single vote since 18) or do a write in on my ballot. But Obama will NOT get my vote. Hell, I may write in my State Senator…he has more experience than Obama and he is about as bright.

neil1785
you are an idiot. All you can do is repeat what other idiots repeat.

WELL, ROLAND MARTIN ON CNN WANTS ALL OF US HILLARY SUPPORTERS TO SHUT UP. AREN’T WE ALL TIRED OF THE MOSTLY MALE MEDIA TO TELL US TO SHUT UP AND GO AWAY?????I’VE HAD IT WITH OBAMA AND ALL HIS DRONES WHO WANT US TO JUST GO AWAY.
WELL LISTEN UP….LOUD AND CLEAR, WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY, WE ARE NOT SHUTTING UP AND WE ARE NOT EVER VOTING FOR THAT EGO DRIVEN DO NOTHING OBAMA.
WHAT HAS HE DONE FOR AMERICA???? NOTHING!!!!!!!
MCCAIN IN 4 YEARS THEN I’LL VOTE FOR HILLARY SO A REAL LEADER CAN BE PRESIDENT.

neil1785
as I read more posts it becomes more apparent that you are an even a bigger idiot then I originally thought. Are you sure you are not a bush supporter?

Libby,
Hillary knew there was a need for universal healthcare before it was “cool” to be for such transformational legislation. Rarely does such monumental change get done the first try by anyone!! However, she would be much more apt to see it through learning from past mistakes/successes.
Hillary couldn’t have done everything she wanted to do as President, but she would have worked her heart out trying. She keeps her word, and yes, she really is a compassionate leader who wants to help people.
She played softball with Obama, never using some of the hardball tactics Penn wanted her to use. The Republicans will relish playing hardball with Obama. Hillary and her supporters warned the superd’s not to lose this election for the dems again, but they annointed the most liberal Senator in the Senate to carry the torch. Please tell me the last time a far left liberal won the Presidency? You see, the electorate in the general election is a more conservative lot than what you’ll find in the dem primary.

Frank,
Look into my children’s eyes and then vote for Obama? You have got to be kidding? Obama’s lack of any foreign policy understanding scares the living snot out of me. He also wants to increase the corporate tax from 35% to 39%. Do you know what types of businesses make up most of the corporations in the United States currently? Small businesses. Obama tells you that it will tax the big whig corporations, but he conveniently forgets to tell you what his tax increase will do to middle american small business. And don’t get me started about his Capital Gains Tax plan. If my tax rate goes up to 39% then I do not know how I will even come close to making ends meet. There is no sliding scale for corporate taxes like there are income taxes. I could make $1000/yr or $1,000,000 and still have to pay 39% tax. Were you aware of this? Obama just picks topics to throw at the voter and dresses them all up in “a different kind of politics” wrapping. Obama doesn’t know how to run this country, and I am not about to give him the opportunity to take POTUS 101.
Senator Clinton is the ONLY person with the smarts and gumption to get Universal Health Care for EVERYONE passed in legislation. I am willing to wait 4 years with McCain at the helm in order to get Hillary back in the game.
Oh, and Libby…go peddle your wares somewhere where someone gives a damn.

Any woman voting for McCain is voting against herself. He has voted against funding for early breast cancer detection and birth control in health plans. His latest campaign ad uses someone he has said is a friend, Hillary, to slur Obama, and is clearly aimed at women attempting to arouse their anger over her not being the veep. It’s also an obvious attempt to dispel party unity on the eve of the convention.

I am devastated by the economy as well…real estate agent…how well do you think I am doing right now? I never said I will vote for McCain, I said I will NOT vote for Obama! Have you not ridiculed those who voted for Bush these last few years because he was not fit to be President. I have. That is my point. Why would I do what I saw as a wrong in others now? Obama might be a good President, but so far his decisions have not been good. He can’t keep his focus on the Democratic platform for fear of looking too liberal. He is betraying principles for politics. He is flipflopping and not keeping his word. Yes, I hear you, so is McCain, but McCain does not represent my political party. I want to feel pride and confidence in my candidate and I DO NOT right now. He is a sell out and not experienced enough to do what we need to have done to turn this country around. I voted for Jackson 20 years ago for the same reason most people are supporting Obama, he gave a good speech and I thought he might could lead the country. It would have been a terrible mistake for him to be president then as it will be for Obama now. Speeches do not a great President make.

Hillary supporters please remember that Hillary was falling off the political cliff when she was running on her merits, but only began winning when she began trashing Obama. Don’t forget what finally killed her chances was when she was caught on tape lying about ducking gunfire in Bosnia.
Why don’t you remember these basic facts?
Richard from California

I’m glad some people can waste 4 years with McCain. Justice Stevens is 88 years old. I’m sure McCain will nominate someone very reasonable – not a wing-nut who will help overturn Roe v Wade.

No Roll Call Vote for Clinton?
This is just plain WRONG!
The DNC has maintained an iron-fisted control over the entire nominating process, and it is disgraceful.

Richard, might I point out all politicians exaggerate from time to time. Obama has enough flip flops/exaggerations to fill a bus. The Bosnia trip story was regretful, but had she wanted to lie about the trip from the beginning, she would have lied in her book..she did not. I don’t know if people know, but Hillary and Chelsea were briefed on possible sniper fire. They were also issued flak jackets and moved to the armored cockpit. Helicopters were actually patrolling the area for sniper fire in the surrounding hillsides, and it was indeed a war zone. More truth than not, but it did hurt her to exaggerate.
Let’s also not forget, Obama didn’t solidify the black vote until he had his surrogates play the race card. Once the AA vote was solidified, he never had to entertain for the black vote going forward. He could simply ignore all the events/forums he was invited to attend, and that’s what he did. Hillary went to NOrleans to the black forum. Hillary was in Memphis for the MLK celebration. Hillary went to the black library event. Obama didn’t feel the need to go.

Obama has damamged this party himself, and he is further determined to hurt his own case come November by not allowing this roll call vote.
It’s quite obvious how the man thinks,
didn’t allow Fla. and Michigan, and today he wants them reinstated. Voted
for Fisa. Insisted on putting old timer
who voted for the War and an insider
on his ticket. Voted against born alive
abortion. Then he is willing to have off
shore drilling. And today he wants to kkill the roll call vote. If he continues on this course, the house is never going to cool down.

McCain has flip flopped on 74 positions, many which he held his entire career, until this primary season.
So why do McCain’s flip-flops matter? Because his reversals aren’t sincere, they’re cynically calculated as part of a drive to pander to the far-right Republican base. He is hoping to maintain the image of maverick while actually standing for the unconstitutional abuses of the fundamentalists.

Someone said this 2 hours ago, but I’ll reiterate:
Republicans win because they present a united front by election day. Huckabee’s and Romney’s supporters aren’t threatening to vote for Obama. They lost, they moved on. Limbaugh bitches – he moves on. They understand that in order to control the agenda, you must first get elected.
Democrats whine and whine and whine. There is no unity, no sense of greater purpose. There is whining and losing.
Ironically, Bill Clinton figured this out. I believe Hillary is smart enough to understand this. Some of her “supporters” do not understand.
So the Dems will lose and continue to whine and capitulate the agenda to the Repubs.
You better pray that the predictions about the Dem congressional races pan out.

No roll call? Don’t get it twisted…the Democrats do not want to see the face of women in this party that we are all considering leaving if we are not heard.
Hey guys, ever heard of Seneca Falls. Women’s Suffrage? We do have a say in the vore. Stop thinking with your zippers and use your heads, we all know there is no hope for your hearts at this point.

Grow up, LOSER’S!!!Get over it!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I can’t wait to utter those words to Obama supporters when McCain wins this election.
Have a nice convention, folks.

Clintonistas: Admit this much: PEOPLE ARE BITTER.
YOU ARE BITTER NOW, right?
Her denial of the bitter theme was the end of her candidacy for VP. 40% of registered voters DID NOT VOTE in 2004. THEY ARE BITTER.
10′s of millions were not registered. THEY ARE BITTER. By HRC making politics of an important truth, she undermined the entire DEMOCRATIC PARTY.Sure she could find some happy face in Scranton. That doesnt really answer the question. Are the people who make much of their guns and church issues bitter that their economic interests are ignored in the rush by the Congress to make much of the WTO’s needs, like the 100 Billion Investment bank bailout?!!
Anyone bitter that Bush bailed out the IB”s with $100 BILLION Guarantee?
Not bitter yet? GO ahead and vote for MCCain so he can appoint a judge to END Roe V Wade.
You must be too young to remember, girls using coathangers to abort in their homes.
Try it on your daughter, the next time, just for practice.

moron posted:. GOD WILL NOT LET UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BE RULED BY BLACK HYPOCRITES.
No, but if people vote for an intelligent, decent caring person of color, he will win. And he wont “rule”. He will govern.
Bush “rules”, without recourse to the Constitution.
That’s about over, moron.

Let’s be specific PUMA’s. You say someone ‘gamed’ and front loaded the primaries.
Can you comprehend that if MICH and Florida had been allowed to push ahead of NH< that would have front loaded the primaries, even more?!!
New Hampshire is first so that a FAMOUS NAME or MULTIMILLIONAIRE CANNOT OVERWHELM the democratic process. NAME= CLINTON. Multimillionaire = CLinton.
ShE was the one with the front loaded $120 million money bags.
Your arguments are specious. Try again with complete sentences and examples.

PUMA. It was not just Harry Reid saying it was time to shut it down.
Her own husband said she should drop out if she didnt win TEXAS. Guess what: she lost Texas 99 delegates-94 delegates!!!
LOOK IT UP.
BILL CLINTON SAID SHE SHOULD DROP OUT IF SHE LOST TEXAS.
When she gave the big victory speech, she claims to have won TEXAS. That was delusional and if she had withdrawn then, she would be the VP now.
SHE LOST TEXAS. YOU CAN LOOK UP WHAT BILL SAID.

I agree with your last comment, RepNY. 100% [no sarcasm]
BUT HRC was practically anointed as the nominee 1 year before the primaries started. She got cocky, complacent, and it cost her. And if you remember, she didn’t care about MI and FL until she was losing. She never dreamed, or planned for the possibility that she would be behind. She needs to take some responsibility instead of blaming everyone else for losing.

Why did Bill say she should drop out if she lost Texas?
BECAUSE< BASED ON THE RULES, THERE WAS NO WAY TO CATCH UP.
Winning KY and WV did not make her catch up.
Saying she had more votes, did not make her catch up.
In fact, by her saying she should be the candidate, because she had more votes, meant she could not be selected as VP. Being a good sport is part of being a man, in life and politics. Being a poor loser and trying to redefine what winning is, like Bill and the word IS, is poor sportsmanship and all it did was guarantee that no one likes her.
She made a fool of herself by saying that total votes are more important than delegates. ANYONE WHO WINS CAL AND NY will win the "total votes". That doesnt mean they have the most delegates. See?
Lots of people were stirred up about MICH and FLorida because of her specious arguments. By playing that game, which you obviously fell for, she guaranteed she would not be the VP. Both mean spirited, bad sportsmanship and a loser. Trying to change the rules is not a way to win friends and influence people. It was shameful.

RepNy – I’m not sure we are discussing the same thing.
My point is this: if you support HRC and everything she stands for and advocates how does voting for John McCain help you.
Answer: It doesn’t. In fact, it largely promotes the opposite of what you support and advocate. So you get pissed off, you hold your nose, and you pull the lever for Obama, because at the end of the day, that decision will serve to further the causes you believe in.
It’s pathetic. In an ideal world, you wouldn’t have to do it, but you NEED to do it because you’ll be worse off if the other guy wins. At least with Obama, you have a chance at getting your issues addressed.

ok, neil1785 is hysterical….he always makes me laugh with his posts.

My vote goes to the candidate that I feel represents most of my interests and that has shown that they will work for the American people. I am a Republican, if you haven’t gathered that, and I am from NY. I did not get the opportunity to vote for Senator Clinton because NY has a “closed” primary system. So as a Republican, I voted for the candidate from my party that I felt was the best out of the bunch, and that was Senator John McCain.
Just because Senator Obama wears a Democratic Party hat does not in any way mean that he represents my best interests. None of his policy work (imo) in either the IL Senate or the US Senate was for the betterment of the American people. When I look at his record all I see are things that make him look pretty and have something to do with money. Any time there was a controversial vote, he wasn’t there or he voted “present”. I do not know where he stands, and I am not going to find out. He promised to filibuster FISA and he lied. He said that he was against the surge in Iraq, and now he conveniently changed his stance. He didn’t understand the dynamics about the Georgia/Russian conflict when it first happened. He claims that “pregnancy is a punishment”. Biden claimed last year that Obama just makes guest appearances at committee meetings, but doesn’t really add anything or work with the committees.
If I have to hold my nose to press the lever, it will be for McCain. I cannot take the chance on Obama. I mentioned above that Obama’s tax plans will put my small business into financial hardship. He doesn’t understand the complexities of our economic structure. How can I vote for someone like that? I didn’t vote for George W. Bush for the exact same reason.

Debra…I get it completely.
There is a word for people that are unaffiliated with any political party. The word is INDEPENDENT. And if you are an independent you really shouldn’t care who people in the democratic and republican parties – affiliated voters -are nominating.
Every candidate running in the dem primary was aware of the stupid, convoluted process, the power of the superdelegates, the MI and FL penalty etc. As Bruce Becker said, HRC screwed herself when she started playing the victim. She was “supposed” to win but wasn’t winning, and then and only then did she start complaining about the rules and the process. There was no talk of sexism or media bias when she won New Hampshire, none at all.
Her ego and her self-centeredness will be responsible for sinking the Dems this year. Her post-primary comments only served to whip her supporters into a hateful frenzy and will doom Obama in November.

Guess what? Tuff fellows. The super delegates went ahead with the petition and they have well over the necessary signatures for a roll call vote.
Seems the super delegates didn’t trust Senator Obama. Imagine that

Libby
Just read one of your comments, and I am glad that you agree that a few select people can decide who’s vote will and who’s vote won’t count. So based on that I am glad that you have agreed to allow me and other Hillary supporters to decide that your vote does not count.
it is simply amazing to me that their are still democrats that are willing to argue that it is actually ok to disenfranchise 2+ million voters, because they did not vote when we told you to. You are stepping on the feet of our favorite states.

I LOVE HILLARY, I LIKE BIDEN, I HATE OBAMA FOR PREZ.
There is no CHANGE mantra anymore with Biden…he is McCain! and Bozo looks weaker and less qualified than ever. He must have consulted the two wisest people he know…..Michell and granny.
Loved how McCain cleaned his clock last weekend at Saddleback faith forum.
Does anybody know, in debates, isn’t it Pres. candidate vs. Pres. candidate and VP vs. VP?

Obama doesn’t YET have Clinton supporters on board?
And they’re expecting to bring those PUMAs on board by monopolizing the convention, waffling on the roll call vote that was agreed on earlier….
They’ve been optomistically saying ‘yet’ for months — but the Pew poll of last week says he’s made NO progress with Hil’s during those months, and shows 52% of Hil’s against him. That’s 9 million voters.
The recent CNN/OPoinion Research poll shows a DROP in Hil’s support for Obama and a RISE in their support for McCain. They find about 6 million against him instead of 9 million — but it’s still several landslides for McCain.
I hope the Dems catch on before the vote (if any) that the only hope for a Dem win in November is Clinton/Obama.

All my life I have always voted democrat I thought we were the party that took care of people did the right thing there are things that the women in this country fought to get like ERA And what they just did to Hillary is anything but Obama is going to get his nominee but if it hadn’t been for all us women voting for era and civil rights maybe he would not be there but to take that right and cheat is not right

The only way Obama can pull this off is if he gets every 25 year old and under to make it to the polls and pull them away from their keg parties. I hope the youth group is as unreliable as ever, because I see that it is the only group (and blacks) that are really behind him.

I am only 20, but I am a 5th generation Democrat. I am troubled and upset with the fact that the Democratic Party the supposed Party of the people happily disenfranchised 2+ million people in FL/MI and millions more through the faulty caucus process. I simply can not reward that. However I will not vote for McCain I will simply either not vote or vote third party.

For heaven’s sake.Let’s all see this mess for what it is.The republicans are deliberately stirring this pot and have been for awhile now.All dems better wake up and pull together.The cable news shows put these thoughts in your heads to create a problem and its working well.This country is in trouble and if we don’t take the white house after this,we never will.If Mccain wins may God help us all.I hope all those who vote for him can sleep at night knowing the number of young people who could be sent off to die in wars we don’t need to be involved in.We won’t be able to feed our kids or pay our bills.Let’s all pull together and take back our country while we have the chance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mt4hill,
Hate to break it to you, but Hillary was one of the people who decided that MI and FL should not count…until she was losing. It did not happen without her the consent of BOTH campaigns.
It the same tired arguement. There are rules, evryone agreed to follow the rules, no one complained about the rules, Hillary complained when she started to lose.
The caucus system wasn’t invented in 2008!
The order of the primaries wasn’t made up on the fly to screw Hillary!
You can’t believe ‘the anointed one’ lost. Esp. to a no-name like Obama.
I’d be shocked, too. She was ENTITLED to the nomination, right? She DESERVED it. She’s Hillary Rodham I stayed with my cheating husband because it was in my best political interests Clinton.
The strange thing is, I LIKE HER!!! But the PUMA’s have martyred her and made her the ultimate victim. So sad.

Roll call or not, we will NOT be voting for elitist Obama.

I am an Independent Hillary supporter….no need to vote Dem, no guilt….but for those Hill supporters who won’t vote or want to write her name in, that allows Bozo to inch closer to a win and we need analysis AFTER THE ELECTION TO SHOW WOMEN/MEN/HILL SUPPORTERS MADE THE DIFFERENCE THIS YEAR.
JOHN SYDNEY NEVER BARACK HUSSEIN

Boy that chubby Roland (black guy on CNN) is really fired up about Hill supporters. Told us to shut up and do what’s right for the party.
So glad I’m not a Dem….I just loved Hillary and contributed throughout her campaign, first time and I’m 49….and he cannot tell me to shut up about the sexism that I saw played out and her own party turn their back on her. Howard Dean s–ks and on air this morn (C-Span) stuttered and stammered when accused of not steping in when they hung her out to dry.
LOVE HILLARY, LIKE BIDEN, HATE BOZO FOR PREZ.
AMERICANS VOTE TOP OF THE TICKET NOT THE VP!

The sad thing is the DNC is reworking the primary process for 2012…I heard on CNN 2 days ago and Howard Dean on C-Span today. No more caucus, reduce # of Super delegates and something about start up dates and Iowa, New Hampshire.
Too little, too late, I’m afraid.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN.

At the end of the day, I am voting for the better candidate. The person with experience and not just talk.
If I would not send my kids to a doctor with no experience, why would I help put someone in to run the nation.
McCain 08′/Hillary 12′

Davis…I donated to Hillary and was thrilled to vote for her….the candidate who I thought spoke the best, made sense and I felt would really work her tail off for this great country.
No sexual distractions either like so many powerful men. Does’t hurt, her husband is considered one of the political geniuses of our time…and if she needs some “pillow talk” it would have been reassuring to know it’s with him.
HILL SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!

Davis if Obama loses it is his fault but they will blame Hillary supporters when in fact it’s just good old AMERICANS EXERCISING THEIR FREEDOM.
Some folks just want a good old American and not a Rootless Cosmopolitan. We’re just not that into him.

Women Put in Their Place, Again.
On Aug. 26, 2008, the 88th anniversary of the passage of the 19th Amendment giving Women the right to vote, Hillary Rodham Clinton will address America to explain why she and the rest of the women in America have allowed themselves to be put back in their place as third class citizens behind White men and now Black men. It is so disappointing to see women rolling over on their backs and doing as they were told, as if their Foremothers had not spent the past few thousand years suffering and struggling to be acknowledged as equals instead of the property of men ,to be used and abused and told what to do and think and say. What a shame it is that on the Anniversary of one of Women’s` greatest achievements Hillary Clinton will be personally giving up all that has been gained and admitting defeat once again. How sad that women have allowed themselves to be put back in their place and told what to do by Obama, Howard Dean and the DNC, and the media, then tricked into using such an important anniversary to admit defeat and pledge their allegiance to their new Master. It is such a disgrace to see the women of today selling out their Foremothers and their achievements so easily just to put another Male democrat in the White House, without realizing that when “United” they actually hold enough power to control this election and put a woman in the White House instead of another man. The women of today have rolled over so easily when they were told to, that I find it hard to understand if it was because they really enjoy being third class citizens behind the white man and now the Black man, or were they just not smart enough or brave enough to do as there foremothers before them and band together and stand up for themselves and what is rightfully theirs. The women of today have stood by and allowed the men of their party to push aside Hillary Clinton to make room for their chosen one, another man .How pathetic you have become, allowing the men of the DNC to put you back in your place on such an important night. I guess Hillary has been ordered to use that night to try to convince you that you should be happy and celebrating in the knowledge that you are lucky that your foremothers did all of the hard work so you can stand by and watch it ripped from a woman`s grasp at the last minute, but it is okay” because it was just not your time but it will be someday soon if you stand aside and let another Man have it for the next four to eight years”. You should be happy that they even allow you the right to vote, instead of complaining about how you were tricked out of your rights and told who you can vote for, as long as it is not a woman. ” You have come a long way baby”, then stepped aside as you were told to do so all of the men can get back in the front of the line, leaving you in the back of the line where you belong. Shame on you for rolling over once again! Regardless of Political Party or Race , you all lose.

poor neil 1785 you are not only deaf but also dumb. and likely a caucasian. Jesus Christ had the same problem with the Pharisee who could not see salvation.You may not think much of yourself be very careful when you talk about one of GODS precious creations.May you finally receive the LOVE And PEACE that is so lacking in your life. Disagree if you must but dont disrespect.that only comes back to you as you are probably experiencing now.GOD LOVES ALL OF HIS CHILDREN, even you if you let HIM.

Bruce
As a Texan…and a first hand witness to the ridiculous caucus fraud in Texas I gotta tell you.
1) Hillary got 51% of the vote.
2) There are over 2000 counts of Obama supporter fraud
3) I do not and will never credit Obama with his mocked up non existant sign in sheets to create all those delegates that didn’t even vote..
HILLARY WON TEXAS.
That is what so many people have been saying. Voter Fraud should not be rewarded…it should be investigated.

DAVIS YOU DON’T GET IT….I WANTED HILLARY BUT I’M OK WITH McCAIN OR EVEN BIDEN. I HATE OBAMA AS PRESIDENT….IT SICKENS ME AND GIVE ME ANXIETY!!!!!
QUIT WITH THE THREATS AND BASHING HILLARY SUPPORTERS.

When Obama loses it will be because he only had half of the party fooled because the other half of us were not fooled by the shiny object he kept moving back and forth in front of our eyes.

truthman01 YOU’VE GOT TO BE JOKING….THE POLLS FROM CNN TONIGHT ARE THEY ARE TOTALLY TIED….IN A SHOE IN YEAR FOR DEMS!
HILLARY SUPPORTE FOR McCAIN!

So Rezko finally finished paying off Obama`s student loans? Good for Obama huh ?
Obama is not smarter than McCain or Hillary or he would have had this by a landslide and locked up without splitting his own party in half. He took advantage of the naive youth and the race card to get what little he has. It is up to Obama to convince us to back him, and he has failed that by 9 million votes .smarter ?
You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time. That is where Obama went wrong.He just cannot foll the brightest minds with flashy talk and big promises. We are not minors or children that can be lured away with promises of candy.

Davis
Before you call anyone a facist, you need to research Senator Obama’s political track record. He is not an agent of change.
Senator Obama has stated that he does not take money from lobbyists. Wrong! In the Democratic Primaries, half of the $250 million dollars that he collected came from “bundlers” representing all types of lobbyists. His bundlers were from law firms, financial industry (subprime mortgage industry), oil money, and so on.
The MSM has turned a blind eye to Senator Obama’s past. Senator Obama has directed the Illinois pension fund to some of his biggest financial backers including the head of Ariel Capital. Johnson is one of Senator Obama’s biggest bundlers.
Senator Obama, Speaker Pelosi, and other DP leaders donated funds to superdelegatges through their PACS. In effect, Senator Obama bought his way to the delegate finish line.

Davis are you an angry black man?
I am not racist…I am an American first, unlike Obama. Alot of us, of a certain age, are put off with Obama’s judgement on friends and colleagues. He does’t show any love of this country, just himself, and sure I’d like a black Prez, don’t care about skin care about PATRIOTISM! I like Colin and Condi, but I lean right (have voted almost half as much for Dem as I have a Rep.)
Please stop ranting about losing your house. Get a job or two, work for it and don’t expect handouts like alot of Dems do.

It isn’t so much that Obama used underhanded tactics to make it where he is, but the stupid way he did it. The primary process was so obviously fixed for him by Pelosi, Reid, and the DNC that only a twenty something imbecile wouldn’t have seen it.
You have to be a little smarter when you fix an election, so the public can’t tell you fixed it. Then you can select the weaker candidate and win.
I will not vote for Obama because he reminds me of Bush with the stone walling and ignoring half of his constituency.
I believe that no change will occur with Obama as president.
As a matter of fact, I think that is why the DNC and Pelosi selected him. Hillary would have changed things. Barack just does what he is told to do without a whimper.

Obama seem to think that us Clinton supporters live in a fairy tell world , yet we are not the ones who thought that his having been given the nomination would automatically make us want to set our brains aside untill after the election and mindlessly follow Obama to the land of choclate milk and molasses.
We are not stupid.
We are not Black.
We do not like having the presidency stolen from us a third time, by our own party no less.
We will not bow down on our knees and declare obama as our new Master.
We are the gun loving bible toting working class poor that he hates so much.
Clinton or McCain 08
never ever Obama

I still can’t believe no roll call for Hillary when every convention before has allowed a role call for the opponent? What crap.
HILL SUPPORTER FOR JOHN SYDNEY McCAIN

truthman….I’ll pray for you that you stop hating white Republicans/Independents.

Actually Davis it is you that sounds like trailer trash. I am a 49 year old white woman who is typing this from her second house in the desert. My husband and I have worked hard all our lives, as our working class parents taught us to. I didn’t say Hillary “can win fairy tale crap”. I wish Hillary, my candidate of choice had won, as I like both Hillar and McCain so for me it was a win win. NOW I WILL WORK MY A– OFF TO MAKE SURE BOZO NEVER GETS NEAR THE WH! AND I DON’T CARE IF HE’S PURPLE, I hate his judgement and arrogance and lack of love and service to this great country!

Paul…are you saying Hillary is going to speak about how we women are taking a step back in history? There are more women doctors and more women in Fortune 500 companies, and THAT is why BO has a problem….alot of them are not that into him….in a major way, although I heard he is doing worse with white males.

Pumas,
Be alert, your wildest dream – 2008 Maccain / 2012 Hillary is in danger!
No pledge for sigle term by Maccain in interview with Politico.
Do you want see Maccain in 8 years in White House?
Can’t believe it.

Davis,
Wow, argument by name-calling. I’m impressed. Then again, I have low standards which is why I’m voting for Biden/Obama 08!

untwist yourself yoga 82,
you know and i know that the HRC machine was on the ground running from the start of this campaign.HRC campaign was poorly managed. which is the first clue of how the HRC admin. would operate.HRC only gained momentum only after her hardworking white people comment which to me is straight up ignorant and unpresidential.
HRC has the name recognition period and love from the people.
winning against that type of incumbent requires exceptional managerial skills,people assesment skills, resource management ability.team building as well as marketing etc. if obama was an athlete you would love him.if he was a FORTUNE 500 company you would buy stock.i really liked that he selected joe biden a hands on guy that really knows people.this campaign is not ideological this is real people stuff. this election is going to pull together common sense Americans whop have no time for this high school student government election crap.black whites reds,browns are really enjoying working together to heal America.This is the Heart of America,Love and Couragenot fear and hatred.you dont even want those kind of votes or people around.Mccain dont care about you.

I think McCain is chomping at the bit to make a lot of changes. He can’t stand Bush. Bush stole the 2000 republican nomination from McCain.
But that doesn’t really matter. The problem is the DNC selected a candidate that appears weak to so many white males in the USA that he won’t win in November.
Educated white women overwhelmingly choose Obama, but white men think he is a Pelosi whipped fool. It is all on the gallup poll site plain to see.

So make your decision, Hillary in 2016 or Hillary for dog catcher in 2010 when we all go to NY to defeat her in her next Senate bid?
Oh ya, you probably forgot about that huh…
_______________
Stupid jackass!
Where were you born?
In Russia, under the communist regime?
IF SO GO BACK!
If not, find a cave .. or dig a hole… and don’t come out til this is over!
People here shouldn’t THREATEN the political future of any Presidential candidate as you and your carnival cohorts have done to Clinton… without expecting some of the doo-doo to bounce back on Obama when it finally hits the fan!
And I can’t wait!
Posted by: Davis | Aug 25, 2008 2:24:21 AM

Poor davis
Just like Obama, you think that if someone has to sit to pee then you should be able to control them and make them do as you say.
That is what costs Obama the presidency.
Obama thought he owned all democrats and they would do exactly as he told them to.
As you can see that did not work.
Just because someone is more intelligent than you does not mean that you can scare them into thinking your way just by calling them names and talking bad to them.
With you, we can see how Obama fooled half of the democrats into buying into his cult following.

“JR,
So do you think McBush and McMorman will do a better job you Republican loser???”
Posted by: Davis | Aug 25, 2008 3:00:44 AM
______________________________
You had the best (Clinton).
You put her down.
And left us with
A skinny clown.
So I must answer
Question yours
By stating strongly…
OF COURSE!

yoga 82, this is America and why arent you running for office. how mich experience did it require for George bush to ruin this nation along with Cheney? how much experience does it take to do the right thing? the rockefellers are supporting him as well.the point you are missing is that Obama is not going to do any thing by himself.he is calling for YOU and all Americans to hold this government accountable.America has always been a bold,fearless nation up until the 80′s. democrats invest in people, that way the tax base is increased keeping individual taxes low. republicans invest in institutions resulting in recessions,low jobs,small tax base higher individual taxes.check it out for yourself. keep digging.

You see, Obama is behind Kerry in the number of white males who support him, but he is ahead of Kerry in the number of white women who support him.
So he had a poll done among Independent voters and found that Biden leads with indenpendent voters. So he picked Biden as VP. He didn’t need white women, and he figured picking Biden would give him more white males, and some independents too.
But it didn’t. Getting kind of scary isn’t it.

Davis what are you ranting about. What was Michelle called? What Gorilla stuff are you referencing. And quit calling me trailer trash…I have two nice homes and I told you I am an Independent who has voted both sides, for best candidate.
Please quit your hatred of Republicans…it’s so absurd…to hate either party so much. Get a grip….and if you keep it up, I’ll assume you’ve got 3″ in your pants.

truthman01
Senator Obama can surround himself with 300 advisors. However, it is the President’s judgment that counts. As you can see, Obama has a difficult time taking a tough stance on any issue.
Even as a Democrat, I admired President Reagan. I never voted for him but I always respected him. Why? Because he wasn’t afraid to take a stand on unpopular issues. Obama is the complete opposite and the country is seeing that.

truthman01:
In order for Obama to make our government take responsibiity for being accountable, HE would have to be accountable……and this is a trait in which he is sorely lacking.
And his views on late term abortions and partial birth abortion MURDERS… which he… alone… supported in Illinois… is just another issue for which he, despite proof to the contrary, refuses to take responsibility.
This is called, at best, distortion of the truth.
Let’s leave it at that!

debbie,whats up with you?it seems that you have apassion for black males. and are probably upset that they never look at you.you are the fearful type i am tallking about.you worship stupidity.you dont care if the republicans continue to steal from you as long as they are white.black man trying to bring his nation together gets his hand bit off. go figure.

Carville gave Obama the answer. He has to get mad. Show some cojones.
Right now he comes across a bit like Larry Sinclair. A bit perhaps, dare I say, “made happy in a limo”.
Not that being “made happy in a limo” is a bad thing, but white males tend to be just a little bit homophobic.
Obama could have a poll done on how not to look weak. Then he would know what to do.

Paul HITE
‘and at the same time using MLK`s birthday to praise himself and tell the world how far him and the blacks have come.’
____________________
Now isn’t THAT a pistol!
Obama, was too busy campaigning for Obama to attend ANY of the main Martin Luther King ceremonies this year, even
though the Clintons and the McCains were
all present and able to honor this great man.
Oh that Obama!
Gotta ????? him!

I mean regarding Bozo’s cashews.

So what about this lawsuit over the legality of Obama’s birth certificate and his trip to Pakistan using a passport other than one from our country?

Isn’t there anyone monitoring these comments? So many are grossly offensive, disgusting, repeats, seemingly written by smear campaigners?
It is certainly obvious that many of these writers have no clue what democracy is nor do they care.

Debra;
No Hillary is not allowed to say anything bad about Obama or women. She has to talk up the anniversary of women`s rights and make you forget that you got screwed over. And of course she is suppoused to talk up Obama and try to get us to back him.
the problem is that Obama choose that night on purpose for hillary to try to make you feel like you gained something instead of losing something because women were finally starting to make the connection that she would be giving up on that anniversary and women were starting to get upset about it.
Obama played the race card and tried to make it racial to bring in the black vote and white vote of those too scared to let anybody think that they might be racist.
If hillary had played the female card early on she would have had the support of all women, but the DNC threw a fit and refused to allow a tatic that would have won it for women and lost it for their Chosen One.
My wife and daughters gave up after that so I decided to pick up the fight for them.
The problem is that the DNC and every news outlet is fighting it and trying to keep it buried and off the table because if women thought about it seriously they would have banded together and forced Obama out and Hillary would be running and winning just on the female vote in America. That scares the s*&# out of the Male rulers of the DNC. Having grown up in Arkansas and knowing Bill and Hillary presonaly, I know what hell they are going through having to stand by and let this election be stolen from them by their own party, especially when the female vote was a winning stratergy that they were forbidden to use. If they had been allowed to use the female vote it would have been a landslide against Obama and McCain, but it would have put a woman in charge over men and people like “Davis” could not allow that to happen to their male dominated world where they think the are masters and women are property. I had the same problem in my business when I put my wife in charge over 7 male crews and it drove them nuts. They hated knowing that a woman was smarter and better at what they were doing.
That is why Hillary was forced out, and that is why Obama and the DNC want to keep your mind off of the female card and let Hillary break it to you gently and try to make you feel like you women actually gained something instead of losing something.
that is why Hillary`s scheduled speech at the convention on that night is a slap in the face to all women.

Paul Hite is written, GOD made man for HIM and woman for MAN. GO argue with GOD.how is it that you dont know GODS order in the earth?thats for the protection of women.Do you know your position? i dont care if you are an atheist,JESUS will see to it that you meet HIM.i am so tired of these girly men.

Questioner….I googled the birth certificate law suit and sounds like some of it is still being investigated. Someone quoted this could be the big bomb there was reference to coming in October.
Personally, I think someone needs to interview granny. Why is she kept from press…is she that disabled. Glad McCain’s 96 year old mother is sharp and beautiful too. She’d know where her son was for any birth in the family….I guess Obama’s grandma could settle where her daughter Ann was when she gave birth…Kenya or Hawaii. Obama’s Kenyan family is saying he was born in Kenya…..google it there are a bunch of sites covering this Birth Cert law suit.

paul hite
you are willfully bearing false witness to win an election this is proof that the GOP is not worthy.this is YOUR LIE AND YOU WILL EAT OF IT.

I’m scared Davis.

“Sen. Barack Obama’s wife and three close advisers have been involved with a program at the University of Chicago Medical Center that steers patients who don’t have private insurance — primarily poor, black people — to other health care facilities. Michelle Obama — currently on unpaid leave from her $317,000-a-year job as a vice president of the prestigious hospital — helped create the program, which aims to find neighborhood doctors for low-income people who were flooding the emergency room for basic treatment. Hospital officials say such patients hinder their ability to focus on more critically ill patients in need of specialized care, such as cancer treatment and organ transplants. Obama’s top political strategist, David Axelrod, co-owns the firm, ASK Public Strategies, that was hired by the hospital last year to sell the program — called the Urban Health Initiative — to the community as a better alternative for poor patients. Obama’s wife and Valerie Jarrett, an Obama friend and adviser who chairs the medical center’s board, backed the Axelrod firm’s hiring, hospital officials said. Another Obama adviser and close friend, Dr. Eric Whitaker, took over the Urban Health Initiative when he was hired at U. of C. in October 2007. Whitaker previously had been director of the Illinois department of Public Health. Obama has said he recommended Whitaker for the state job, giving his name to Tony Rezko, who helped Gov. Blagojevich assemble his Cabinet. Rezko, a former fund-raiser for Obama and Blagojevich, was convicted in June on federal corruption charges tied to state deals.”—- Chicago Sun Times, August 23, 2008.

hello La Chatte, Portland,since you have been voting since 1968,did u vote for Bill clithon and if u did,can u tell me the major experience Bill clithon had before he started contesting for the post of president.

Ever since Obama’s trip to the Middle East and Europe the main stream media has decided oto go negative on him. The McCaine camp has successfully given the media a guilt complex and maybe an excuse to do what they have been yearning to do.
Obama has not made any gaffes or mistakes in his campaign, yet the media is treating him as if he is inadequate. Does race have anything to do with it.? I think so.
All our lives we are taught to work hard and play by the rules, especially african American males and when you go on to get good enough grades to go to Columbia and then top your class at Harvard law school after being raised by a single white mother all of a sudden you are a goody two shoes elitist. This is rediculous for the media to allow the republicans to send that message to the American public is mind baffling.
John McCaine, a man made by other people and circumstances beyond his control. John McCaine a man created through his family connections and a rich wife. John McCaine a man who grew up acting the spoil brat thinking he could get what ever he wanted if he demanded it and push his superiors to the limit. John McCaine, made out of his own incompetence and given heroics brought on by his own incompetent actions as a naval pilot.
I will continue to say until i’m proven wrong. America is racist and many in the media hide it well but its there and that is why this election is still so close and those undecided are the closet racists who will not state their intentions. God help them.

All you Hillary supporters need to get over it already. Hillary Clinton will never be President. Not now, not in 2012, not EVER. Hillary is the new Jesse Jackson, Polarizing and unlikeable. Thank God in 2012 it will be Hillary Who the footnote.

I agree with those who state that the election remains so close because of racism in America. I have a sister and brother-in-law, who would never vote for a black person solely because of the color of their skin. And, being originally from south central Louisiana, I can tell you from personal knowledge that this is the case with many white people in that area and elsewhere. Yet, these same people call themselves Christians and claim to worship Jesus Christ, although He never in the least bit supported racism and made it clear through His teachings that this was unacceptable. While I’m certainly proud of my country, I’m disgusted by large numbers of its inhabitants, who are ignorant, irrational, and will get exactly what they deserve if they put John McSame in office. Obama/Biden 08!!!

Hillary needs the role call, if she does not do it, she’s not a fighter. Game over

Congratulations Mr Obama for your choice of VP. You ran a very good campaign this year avoiding the mistake of attacking Hillary and her supporters, her family, her beliefs, her preachers,etc
If you Democrats want to beat McCain then you need to wholeheartedly support the Obama ticket. I ask you Clintons to fully and openly support the winner Mr Obama and his team so that the Bush legacy can finally be removed from the White House.
Anything less than Total Democrat
Unity will fall short. McCain will need a brilliant team to run the country as his own ideas and vision for America are arid & withered ! Good Luck to OBAMA & BIDEN in 2008 !!

Dear Ed,
I’m with you. I’ve never in life seen a situation where even though the loser caused their own demise, the winner must make them feel better about it, save their self-destroyed legacy, and even though the loser gave the opposing party ammunition to use against their fellow party member, the winner must choose them as VP. If Obama had chosen Hillary, people would be calling Obama weak. But since he has chosen Biden — he proved that he lacks experience. How do you please this sick electorate?
“A reader in Georgia,” why do you and your cohorts blame Obama for Hillary’s loss? This shouldn’t even be an issue. SHE LOST!!! Get it!? The party has kowtowed to the Clinton’s ever since that loss, but they don’t have to, and by golly they shouldn’t!

Ya know I think its interesting that so many people say they want a regular guy in the white house to represent them. They often say they wouldnt care if he wasnt experienced as long as he had the chance that they believe anybody should have, and intellect. Then what do you know, somebody with charisma, and intellect, and no experience shows up, and shows great intellect. A man who can relate to the people, because he started at the bottom, and is disadvantaged because hes a minority. What do they do? They tear him down at every opportunity. Then they try to make him out to be an elitist? Things can change for the better if we make it so, and throughout history you will find that nothing has changed without people taking the chance on the change. Sometimes you just gotta trust and hope.

when obama loses you will think ‘we could have had hillary’…..when mccain takes that oath of office you will think ‘we should have had hillary’….and when mccain’s administration brings grief into your own personal life you will know ‘hillary was the right choice’….and if you are lucky in 2012 you will have another chance…..defeat i don’t think so delay is what i think….you will welcome hillary with the appreciation she deserves…..remember you heard it here….just remember as you realize things actually can get worse than bush and they will get worse…..obama is full of it and mccain is out of it…

“Clinton supporters” my a–. The mainstream media knows good and well that this group of radicals is nothing more than cloaked Republicans trying to disrupt the DNC and steer hapless Hillary supporters to McCain. These sickos are racist to the max. Just look at their comments. Nothing but fringe gobblins spewing hate. PUMA is dead meat, goblins – debunked on Hardball of all places!
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/08/15/puma-de-fanged-on-hardball/

Say it ain’t so, Joe, say it ain’t so, unless you want to be Obama’s Spiro Agnew!

Stop blaming Clinton because Obama is behind in the polls. He wanted this and he got it- it is up to him just like any other candidate to earn each vote- when is he going to start doing that? He has Clinton going to FL and CA to campaign for him – he needs to campaign more in these states- he cant just stay away because he cant win over working class, women, and hispanics- Obama needs to get out there and make his best case- If he loses this is totally on him- so lay off of Clinton. Obama won – he wanted to win- so get out there and earn our votes!!! Are we going to see him in PA- OUTSIDE OF PHILLY??? Face your challenges head on and forthright like a leader is suppose to do.

Obama made the biggest mistake by not asking Hillary to run as Vice President.
He’s just lost the election.

Hey SierraBW, go suck an egg. Please!

This an election that the DEMS should be winning hands down…
Bozo is wrecking it …
At this stage, polls are showing Obama-McCain at dead heat, and this right after his VP announcement.
Hope is fading for the Dems… fast …time to regroup around HRC for 2012 … abandon the ObamaBi(nla)den ship

For what it’s worth, the Obama campaign has no one to blame but themselves and the DNC for the current problems in the Democractic Party. After playing the R-A-C-E card to win the nomination, the Obama campaign gloated in their victory and continously snubbed Senator Clinton and her supporters over and over; and now they say they want unity when it appears that Senator McCain might win the general election. So much for quality leadership from the Obama campaign and the DNC. Their poor leadership has caused this lifetime Democract to become an Independent.

It is imperative that there is a roll call so we can all see and hear for ourselves who is really voting for Obama. We need that mental picture so we can keep it in mind in future elections. Any Super Delegate that is so ignorant as to vote for Obama when their job is to vote for the person that will insure the Democrats win the election, is not fit to hold a position in gov. and needs to be voted out. To date we have mostly just been TOLD who says they would vote for Obama. Alot has happened since the DNC selected Obama. All the Super Delegates have not voiced their vote. The RULES are that the Super Delegates VOTE AT THE CONVENTION!!!! Of course, the DNC has re-written the rules when it serves their purpose and insisted they stand by the rules also when it suits their purpose. They sure blew it with this one. What are they so afraid of if there is a roll call? The truth may come out???? McCain WILL be the next President. Obama does not stand a chance. There are too many underground groups forming to make sure that Obama is NEVER President. He needs to take his ugly arrogant wife and go home to his little girls and stay there. Everyone do yourself a favor and just turn the channel on the TV (if you have it on at all this week). I know I will, my stomach is not strong enough to take all the b.s. that will be hitting the airways this week. Sponge Bob even looks pretty inviting! PUMA

Neil “Elizabeth Hasselbeck says Obama isn’t brilliant”. Elisabeth Hasselebck cannot find her mascara wand with out help. Also note you misspelled her name honey.

I thought that a roll call vote was standard procedure at the democratic convention? So now we want to change the rules of the convention because it might look divisive?? Give me a break!! Look for lots of arrests if the DNC changes the convention rules!!

If you want to have an effect on the outcome of this election, nobody is going to listen to somebody saying, “Get over it,” “Grow up,” “Stop your whining.” These types of comments are not persuasive, and sound ignorant, juvenile, and narrow-minded.
Why not quote facts and reasons about why a person should apply a vote to a particular candidate?

2/11/2008
Obama and Clinton Campaigns Agree that Superdelegates Should Vote for Who They Think Would be the Strongest Candidate for the Party
Top Obama Strategist Axelrod on Superdelegates
From this morning on NBC:
LAUER: Let me ask you about superdelegates. A lot of discussion about the role they’re going to play in all this by the time it’s over and the debate being whether they should vote out of loyalty to a candidate, particularly if they’re elected officials, or whether they should vote the way their state or district votes.
So, when it comes to Senators John Kerry and Senator Ted Kennedy, should they vote for had Barack Obama because they’ve endorsed him or should they vote for Hillary Clinton because the state of Massachusetts voted for Hillary Clinton?
AXELROD: I think that the role of the superdelegate is to act as, sort of, a party elder. These are elected officials from across the country and they’re supposed to exercise their judgment as to what would be best for the party. And as they look at this, they need to decide who would be the strongest candidate for the party…
LAUER: David, you’re not answering. Should those two senators vote for Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton?
AXELROD: I think they and all the superdelegates should vote according to what they think is best for the party and the country. And I think that we need the strongest possible candidate against John McCain…

Passing thru – How effective do you think that all this Hillary carping is? She is still off the ticket? Just a thought.

Ask yourself this question and answer honestly: Between Obama and McCain, which candidate’s positions on issues most closely matches those of Sen. Clinton?
Case closed. If you answer McCain, you are lying to yourself.

The Puma ‘movement’ reminds me of a bad high school drama from the ’80s.

Hey why don’t you PUMA idiots get Hill to run as an Independent? Worked for Liberman. Then we will actually for the first time have a viable third party candidate. If she thinks the Democrats screwed her. Then screw them back. Very simple and beats the heck out of Whinning etc. Which sorry ladies is just what you are doing.

I am a life long republican mom of 3, who has looked at the candidates available and has chosen to vote for Barack. We need his intelligence, willingness to seek diplomatic solutions rather bluster, his ability to stay calm under pressure and the great ideas his has put forward on the economy , education and energy in particular.
Re: Clinton, to those who say he did not vet her, pls note that Barack sat down and talked with HRC at length about the VP.
HRC and her camp did not want to provide info to be vetted unless she was guaranteed the VP Slot. With Bill’s List of Donors, and other dirt and information that the Republicans have on The Clintons, they would have had to provide info. Look at what just happened with Edwards. As a republican, we have waited and loved nothing but to run against this Clintons, do not mind the fake crocodile tears. If McCain and the Repubs are so upset about HRC not being Obama’s pick, they may want to ask her. They dare not because she will tell them where to go.
As a republican, I am willing to consider a democrat this time, I simply cannot continue for four more years of this. My house has lost value; my once profitable business is struggling as costs are increasing. McCain is simply out of touch on the economy and foreign policy. Being a POW does not confer that you. I am also so ashamed of the negative tact of his campaign, since he hired the Rove people, the same people who did the same to him.
I ashamed that I was a republican for so long, after this I will switch to independent.
All Ex HRC Supporters, from this Repub do not vote for McCain, he has no respect for women his personal life and comments have shown that. The Repubs are just trying to divide the democrats. Trust me in Barack loses because of this no-sense HRC will never, ever win the Presidency and the Democratic Party will become a relic because they will not get the white house in years to come.
America, put aside your hidden prejudices, this is really what it is about and let us turn the page this time.
I seriously urge you to vote for Barack, we cannot continue down this road.

Marianne the man did not know Ayers when he was a radical. Maybe he has mellowed. Hey even Hanoi Jane Fonda as mellowed. Could have happened. Would you like to be held responsable for every stupid radical thing you did and said in your twentys?

This country has the worst underhanded democratic congress we ever had. Nancy made sure Hillary would not be the nominee because she wants to stay the woman in charge and is very jealous of Hillary along with Dean who hates the Clinton’s. Hillary should retain the roll call to see what really happens. I would not cancel it out. Surprises could happen at the convention. I favor Hillary but at times she has made too many errors and it cost her. The superdelegates can switch their vote at the convention to Hillary although I don’t think they will however Randell is voting Hillary possibility many the others will follow. This has happened to a nominee years ago when he lost to the candidate the lost to him earlier then became the nominee. I hope it happens here to shock the DNC.

This is rediculous!I’m sick of hearing Clinton has to!!!! NO SHE DOESN’T AND NEITHER DO HER SUPPORTERS!!!!!!!!! Obama supporters have been bad mouthing Hillary & Bill since the beginning and I’m SICK OF IT!!!! Because of BO and his supporters now 30% of us won’t vote for him & by November the percentage point will be larger and BO WILL LOSE! BO has made a serious mistake and it’s going to cost him!!!

I can’t quite understand why anyone thinks Obama needs to yield any ground to the Clintons. It is being said that they wanted to be consulted on VP choice; to have this concession and that concession, etc. She ran a very negative campaign, a poorly managed campaign, and lost. Yeah, she got a lot of votes… and so did he. And worse, she alienated half of the voters. If he can’t win without her, then she couldn’t win without him, either. The important issue, the singular issue, must be defeating the neocons before they utterly ruin this country. For those Clinton supporters who fail to grasp this very simple objective, and refuse to support the party, you are allowing pride and spite, not reason, to dictate your actions. If you can’t act rationally, then you should sit this one out.

AlbertMike: You are right in every word you said about Obama. And Nancy, Reid and Dean are responsible for Obama being the nominee. Now they want the delegats from MI and FL to count but they didn’t do that for Hillary. All three of them are rotten thru and thru and I hope we can get a republican house again so Nancy can step down. They went to the superdelegates and made deals with them to vote Obama. Nancy is an underhanded schemer and should never have been elected.

Hey Yoga Hope you and yous are ready to suit up for your tour of duty in Iraq, Iran, Afghanastan, Pakistan, Georgia (Country), Russia or where ever McCain and Company can make the next war. I bet it would be really funny seeing an un=ber liberal idiot like you are the rest of the PUMAS on the front lines or better yet sending YOUR kids to the front lines to die for McCain and CO.
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Hey Yoga Hope you and yous are ready to suit up for your tour of duty in Iraq, Iran, Afghanastan, Pakistan, Georgia (Country), Russia or where ever McCain and Company can make the next war. I bet it would be really funny seeing an un=ber liberal idiot like you are the rest of the PUMAS on the front lines or better yet sending YOUR kids to the front lines to die for McCain and CO.
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jenny,
I served my country during the Cuban Missle crisis, operating out of Guantanamo, on patrol, complete with two hostile, but not fatal, incidents. I did what I had to do, so that small-minded people like you can shoot off their uninformed mouths. By the way, what branch of the services were you in, are you in, or will you be in???
Judging by your writing skills, I would suspect that you most likely wouldn’t qualify for today’s Navy, but I could be wrong. You also need some help with spelling, especially with the names of people and places. Are you still in school or have you dropped out?
By the way, I am not in any shape or form a über-liberal, nor an I an idiot (in fact, I am about as far from that mental state as one can get). Politically, I am a middle-of-the-road Independent and I intend to vote for qualified candidates only, which excludes Senator Obama. I am not what is currently called a “PUMA”. And, as for what my children will do if called to serve, first, it is none of your business, and second, I am sure they will make up their own minds.

DublBogey: for those of use who straddle the line between Democratic issues and Republican issues, McCain is more moderate than Obama’s extreme liberalism. I can’t afford to support Obama’s issues with the economy tanking. But thanks for trying to convince us that Obama is more than the puppet of liberals like Pelosi, Reid and Kennedy (if he lives).
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As a Clinton supporter, I’m voting for McCain so that the do-nothing Democratic congress will have to work for the next 4 years. Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy (if he lives), etc wanted the easy button with Obama. It would be similar to what we have experienced with a Republican control and we now know that doesn’t work. Don’t worry Libby, McCain can’t load the Supreme Court or take away women’s rights if the Democrat majority Congress does what we elected them to do. Ditto for the Iraq war and any potential draft.

The problem is that Obama did not win the number of delegates that he needed based on the primary votes. He needs additional delegates to win. Hillary also did not win the delegates she would need. Obama had the highest number of delegates so far, but not enough to win the nominination based on his voter awarded delegates. Along with ‘stuff’ that has come out after the Super Tuesday primaries, the delegates should have a chance to settle the vote once and for all. That folks support suppressing the vote is un-democratic and smacks of 3rd world politics. Does the DNC really want to be historical with the worst election process ever?

What is nomination by acclamation?This is America, and in America we Vote, and everyone has a chance to be heard. What happened to the votes in Florida and Michigan? In November, all these people’s votes will count, so why not now? I am a team player. If Obama won the majority vote,I would support him. Unfortunatly, we have not counted all the votes. So now I have a big problem come November. If the Democratic party leaders want to hand pick a president by Acclamation/Super delegates ,and ignor the will of the people, they will have to do it without me. We just threw away an election that was all but handed to us.

Ya know, Davis, it is people like you that have turned more of us AWAY from Obama. If people like you support him, I sure as H— don’t want anything to do with him!

CAN SOMBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT MAKES MCCAIN SO QUALIFIED AND OBAMA SO UNDERQUALIFIED?????????
STOP HIDING BEHIND THE WHITE SHEETS AND CONE HATS…
STOP PSSNG ON ME AND TRYING TO CONVINCE ME ITS RAINING!!!!!!

Today’s blogging by one Neil1785 shows how racist America still is. Unfortunately he is not alone.

Good point, Frank…
I guess rising to the top of your field from less than humble beginnings at the post-diapers age of 47 means you’re arrogant and unqualified, and that being at the pre-diaper age of 72 means yer entitled to be called experienced no matter what you have or haven’t done in your life.
Freaky

DoblBogey Why is it that none of the embittered Clintonistas will answer my very simple question:
Between Obama and McCain, which candidate’s positions on issues most closely matches those of Sen. Clinton?
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It really is not the policies (no one keeps promises after the elections) but more a matter of trust. Who do we trust more? Obama has already proven time and time again that he is arrogant and not trust worthy.

If Obama looses this election because of the Clintons, “Clintonian” will take on new meaning.
The Clintons need to get over it and stop trying to build a power base at the expense of the party.
Catharsis indeed.
What ever happened to loosing gracefully and showing some emotional maturity?

Chris, Let me be clear that Obama is no Hillary, not even close to measuring up to her. The presumed DNC nominee is simply unqualified and he is too liberal – he is the Most liberal Senator. He shown that he is indecisive, inexperienced, flip-flops, thinks there are 58 states, did a poor job of monitoring the ineffectiveness of the community programs, yet got Rezko and others to do fund raisers for his candidacy – need I go on about indicators that show his derogatory politics and detrimental solutions would be a disater for our country. Not only that but his platform was not the same as Hillary’s – there were key differences. McCain is more moderate, and he has the experience. McCain is someone who knows how to get us out of wars and knows first hand how horrible war is -that person we need is McCain. Plus I want to keep my taxes low as I struggle to save for retirement years ahead; the presumed DNC nominee would raise taxes and give the money to the UN for a military and to distribute to other countries who now are getting our jobs. This Hillary supporter will not kowtow to the DNC, when the DNC has abandoned their democratic principles in this election. It is a no-brainer – vote for McCain 2008. We need McCain’s experience and moderate policies today.

arrogant and not trustworthy?
Confident, yes… arrogant, no.
trustworthy…. show a candidate for president who hasn’t done the opposite of what he said he would do on more than one occassion, and I’ll show you my oceanfront property in Arizona (one of 7)…
“Love thy neighbor, love thy neighbor, love thy neighbor….”
I’m trying, Lord, but they make it so hard!

Blame the Clintons? NOT! Blame Pelosi, Dean and Obama with his crooked politics and jerrymandering of delegates!

Blame the Clintons? NOT! Blame Pelosi, Dean and Obama with his crooked politics and jerrymandering of delegates!

Obama is not qualifyed for POTUS. He is nothing but a pupet selected by Reid, Dean and the majestic looser Pelosi. And no, I am not voting for a party – I vote for US. Between a dirty corupt lying unqualified candidate and a candidate who is not perfect but has record I will vote for the guy w. a record. Obama will never get my vote and you can call me names – I don’t care. This year I am not voting democrat for the first time in my life.

I cannot believe all these comments about this person being racist, no that one is and no one is making a stink over Biden’s racist comment, as follows: “In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7/11 or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking.” I was torn between Obama and McCain, but now REFUSE to vote for this racist A-hole. Check out http://newsbusters.org/node/6305.

Bruce
As a Texan…and a first hand witness to the ridiculous caucus fraud in Texas I gotta tell you.
1) Hillary got 51% of the vote.
2) There are over 2000 counts of Obama supporter fraud
3) I do not and will never credit Obama with his mocked up non existant sign in sheets to create all those delegates that didn’t even vote..
HILLARY WON TEXAS.
That is what so many people have been saying. Voter Fraud should not be rewarded…it should be investigated.
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Right there with you Jackie, I saw it all. THAT’S why I don’t have the stomach for Obama.

Sally…
That post read like a FOX News headline ticker.
The statements made are so far from reality, let’s just pick one apart…. McCain knows how to get us out of wars and knows what its like to be in one????
Ok, so he knows what it’s like to be in one, and perform rather badly, but I digress… what has he done to stop it from happening to someone elses loved ones when given the chance to stand up and speak like someone who has experienced the shear hell of it?
Ya know, newsflash, he has actually said just the opposite about of getting us out of a war, he wants to keep us there.
Do you feel a draft or is that just hot air?

neil1785 has a little anger going on there. All caps like he is yelling and pretty harsh words. I wonder if “Neil” feels that way about the current, miserable administration that Senator McCain supports 95% of the time. Maverick? Where? On his ranchero in Arizona? Perhaps, but not in the Senate, not in Washington D.C.
neil1785, you may want to get some anger management similar to a certain candidate. Birds of a feather . . .

Hillary had the most votes in the democratic primary. Hillary is the real winner.
Hillary or McCain.
>>>>>>>>>>> GO PUMA <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>10 million strong <<<<<<<<<<<

Dothemath, I paid very close attention and I’ve read every post before making my comment. My old man told me that God gave me two ears and one mouth which means think twice before you speak.
Your comments about “that the do-nothing Democratic congress will have to work for the next 4 years. Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy (if he lives), etc wanted the easy button with Obama.” Doest make any sense at all. Do you see the Republicans doing the same thing for McCain? Hell NO!!!!
Here is a comment for you and I do believe that you watch the Olympics. Especially track and Field, if you are the favorite to win you will make sure that you do everything right for yourself to win the game. What happens is that you get cocky and arrogant then you lose the match and wants to blame it on the official and everybody else but yourself. Hillary was in the same situation and she lost but you and the so called Democrats want to blame officials (DNC) and Obama for you’re lost. The rules were put in place before Hillary run for office. She knew the RULES and she got COCKY and ARROGANT and she lost.
Back to McCain, the republicans could care less if he is smart or old they want to see McCain in office so they can continue their rule of destroying America (economy, health care, wade vs. roe, etc…) for their own benefit. Why would I want to make it hard for a Democrat to be in office but make it easy for a republican?

Voting FOR or NOT voting for Obama because he’s black, is RACIST! It’s NOT a one way street!

What is Hillary’s problem. Sweetie, not enough ppl voted for you, get over it and go away. OBAMA 08

It’s a shame how people quickly lose all civility when they have the anonimity of their computers. How does third grade name calling advance your positions?

The Obama / DNC rumor that ABC is tossing out (no roll call vote) is just that. A RUMOR!
These are the same folks, along with the AP, CNN and MSNBC that told us that Hillary dropped out, just as the last primaries were being staged.
Pay no mind to the fools behind the curtains. Do not call your friend or spouse who is in Denver as a Delegate and tell them to come home, it is over. It is not!

WELL SAID, CHRIS. Applause.

Obama born in Mombasa, Kenya. Send him home in November! This situation is now in Federal Court. Only a natural born citizen can be president !!!

Obama picked Binden, what the heck is wrong with him? I thought he gonna pick Hillary. It’s quiet a shocking and it proves that he is mentally challanged. McCain is definately a winner this November. I am voting for him too!

HEy Abe thought there were 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling whta happened to the other eight million?

Hillary Clinton 2012

That reporting is total BS. The Hilary delagates are voting and it doesn’t matter what Obama does him and Biden will lose in November.I am so sick of the the racist rant. Its a wedge issue.Obama is not qualified and neither is the yes man O’Biden

4 years of McCain is better than 8 years of Obama. Hillary will be pres. in 2012.

Obama is the best hope today for America and the rest of the world. Any Democrats who can’t see that, or realize the vindictive nature of Hillary’s response to losing the nomination must have their heads in the sand.
And yes, neil, we know you have an opinion, even if someone must have given it to you, since you obviously have no capacity to think for yourself. Now be a good boy, and go play with your guns.

You know. I dont consider these mostly women Clinton supporters since they are not supporting her and her wishes. They are just trouble makers and probably part of Rush’s army or something.

obama agreed to give Hillary a roll call at the convention out of ‘respect’ for her 18 million voters. Ok so now the news is breaking that there will ‘not’ be a roll call at all. WTH does that mean? Ok let me try to enlighten you a bit. It really means that even MORE Hillary supporters will float over (on their majic carpets that were provided by the obama campaign) to the McCain camp. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! obama continues to dig deeper and deeper and I must say…I loveeeeeeeeeeeeee it!

I would rather see the Democratic Party emplode, completely self-destruct, than than see a Obama in the White House. His is a danger to this nation.

Perplexed: this democrat does not see what you apparently see, and would prefer Hillary Clinton as the nominee. It’s natural for different people to have different opinions, why do Obama supporters feel the need to suppress the democratic process, which has served us well for many years. Maybe because it’s his supporters have great fear that he will not get the nomination – which is a possibility if there is a roll call, but to say the democratic processes should NOT continue is ludicrous and short-sighted. The nomination is won at the DNC or GOP conventions. Until a candidate’s nomination is confirmed by the convention, any candidate is called the ‘presumed nominee”. So technically, Hillary hasn’t lost yet and Obama hasn’t won yet! Obama supporters typically resort to name-calling and your calling Hillary supporters ‘vindictive’ is incorrect – we only want the democratic processes to continue as they occurred in the past. Nothing different – just the democratic process. We deserve that, and if the DNC can’t support that democratic process, maybe I will consider voting stratigh GOP this time.

I love the she did not get the votes logic. So quit your crying about the 2000 election, Gore lost fair and square. Kerry lost fair and square.
thought so.

I think ABC News Department’s new policy of not allowing reporters to wear flag pins because they represent a “cause” is despicable! Our flag is not a “cause”. It only shows our belief in our country!
Posted by: Evelyn
I Think what this policy says is that this is not Nazi Germany and that they will not force their employees to wear anything! This is what you’re concerned with? This is what Obama was talking about. People who for against their best interests. I’m a proud American and I don’t wear a flag pin! I’m much more interested in keeping my job and home! Wearing or not wearing a flag pin will have no baring on those issues! Many of you so called “Proud Americans” are actually quite ignorant!

Obama’s pick for VP goes to show that he’s two grapes shy of a fruit salad. I honestly don’t think he’s looking to be president. I think he’s enjoying his new celebrity status….
I pray that some of the delegates in Denver give the people what they want. And that’s Clinton in the White House. If not, I guess I’ll be force to vote McCain..which would be the same as Bush and a 3rd term.

kim:
I see it doesn’t take long for the ignorant and undercover racists to raise their heads concerning Sen. Obama. They remind me of the Bush voters who turned out to vote for him for a second term DESPITE the clues he gave them the first time around!!! Talk about cutting your nose off to spite in your face!!! Vote country over party??? Is that a hint to vote white regardless of policy??? Well that seemed to be the case in 2000 and 2004. Choose Bush against the liberal minority loving Democrats. How did he repay your loyalty??? Is the country better off??? With approval rating in the low 20′s, I doubt it. Continue to trick ‘em McCain.
OBAMA/BIDEN08/12

Here’s something for all of you Hillary and McCain supporters! We’re not paying any attention to the polls because all of them are taken from people who voted in the last election. The Obama campaign has registered over 2 million new voters. These people are not being polled but who do you think they’re going to vote for? So. to the Hillary and McCain supporters – you can vote for whoever you want but you can’t stop a tidal wave!

Not one AA has come forward with anything that Obama accomplished for the AA community on the south side of Chicago.Instead, for years Obama helped Tony Rezko garner funding for his low income slum housing & Rezko in turn bundled hundreds of thousands of dollars that went towards Obama’s campaigns. The AA’s living there were left with no heat, roaches & vermin & leaking roofs. 11 buildings were in Obama’s district. He never once visited even 1 Rezko bldg.- claimed on TV, “I didn’t know.” Yet, he lives in a multi-million dollar home courtesy of his good friend, Rezko the Crook.
Obama “made good” off the backs of the least fortunate in his community.

You all are so stupid. If Senator Obama had been a white man that beat Haggatha, none of this would be happening. She is the reason for this stupidity. Her and all these stupid bitter women and low to no income white men. Educated people are moving on and letting progress through. OK, so you all are not going to vote for him, guess what, who gives a shi*^&?

Reality Check for Bozo Supporters …
The latest polls are showing :
Obama = 47%
McCain = 47%
That is ZERO% lead for forerunner Obama.

An overwhelming amount of the hooplah over the Clinton drama is being engineered by the GOP. In fact, the UCO had a recent study that tracked over 80% of online ‘rants’ from ‘diehard Clinton supporters’ were actually Repubican supporters and operatives trying to stir stuff up.
The longer Americans are talking about ‘Clintons are upset’ or ‘Obama eats funny named vegetables’ the less time we are talking about people losing their homes, poverty on the rise, Al Qaeda rebuilding, and so on and so on.
It’s the GOP’s ultimate plan to have us NOT talk about McCain because his plans for the country are pretty awful.
Stop playing into the hands of a party who tried to publicly molest Bill Clinton for 8 years, called his wife every awful name in the book, and a candidate who called Bill Clinton’s daughter ugly ‘because Janet Reno is her father’. Don’t be fooled by Fuxnews and the GOP’s sudden wonderful and heartwarming embrace of Hillary Clinton. Call me crazy, but if she were the nominee, I don’t think we’d be hearing such glowing reviews from the GOP.
Obama wins in 2008, runs again in 2012. Biden is too old to take the reins at that point so Hillary is handed the nomination in 2016 easily, in part because of her work on behalf of the pary this year.
Seems like a long time away for some of us former Clinton supporters, but think McCain in 2000.

“A man is known by the company he keeps”
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
# Ayers – a known domestic terrorist; hosted Obama’s kick-off dinner at his home. On 9/11 – Ayers said he wasn’t sorry for his treasonous acts and wished he had done more.
# Rezko – a Syrian native,convicted felon, currently serving time. Helped Obama fanagle a sweeeet deal on his multi-million $$$$$$ dollar house.
# Wright – Obama sat and listened to this racist bigot Sunday after Sunday for twenty years.

Roxanne, If it’s any of your business at all – I donated the maximum allowed by law.

So who will you vote for, Indian, and why?

I am one who had a totally open mind at the start of the primary season way back in Feb. I liked several of the candidates; still do. I like Bayh, I like Richardson, I like Clinton and Obama. I studied the issues and came to two: Clinton and Obama. THEN came the nasty campaign that Bill Clinton ran and I got turned off big-time. It really bothered me because I think Bill was a great President. But the sense of entitlement that they projected and the smugness of their campaign was not good. I turned to Obama because of the Clinton’s tactics. I still like her, and could support her again in the future,but she has dropped several points in my estimation. I do not have the same respect for the Clintons that I once had.

Obama camp is scared out their minds. Keep up the pressure PUMAs. All the talk shows are showing that Obama/Biden or Barrack America/Next President are scared that they will not even get the nomination.
Let’s get ready to rumble.!!!!!
PUMA 2008

Senator Obama will lose because he is unqualified. He has placed his own self-interests before the needs of this nation. Experience matters. It doesn’t matter who his VP is because it is the President that makes all the decisions.
This is why the race is tied! He cannot unite the party because he divided it with his race baiting.

UPDATE: As of Aug. 25, 2008, according to the New York Times, the actual PLEDGED DELEGATE count (EXCLUDING “SUPERDELEGATES”) is:
Obama 1,661
Clinton 1,592
Difference 69
And until a roll call, that is all that matters. In addition, Florida and Michigan are at full strength now.
Senator Obama has falsely claimed to be the nominee by means of the very public manipulations of the DNC and his own minions. As an Independent, IN NO WAY do I want this man or Senator Biden, to represent this great country on my behalf, so I shall look elsewhere for a candidate worthy of my vote.
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Great Post Yavo Lam !!!

yoga82 Says Senator Obama will lose because he is unqualified. He has placed his own self-interests before the needs of this nation. Experience matters. It doesn’t matter who his VP is because it is the President that makes all the decisions.
This is why the race is tied! He cannot unite the party because he divided it with his race baiting.
This is what yoga82 is really saying.
Senator Obama will lose because he is BLACK. He has placed his own self-interests before the needs of US HARD WORKING BLUE COLLAR WHITE PEOPLE HILLARY TALKED ABOUT. COLOR MATTERS. It doesn’t matter who his VP is because it is the President that makes all the decisions, and also dont forget Obama is BLACK!
This is why the race is tied! He cannot unite the party because he is BLACK.

Obama was virtually an unknown name in American politics. Him and his team were able to run a better campaign and caused the greatest political upset in history by beating the Clinton’s(bill, Hillary and Chelsea).
Again, Obama and his team have shown superior judgment over McCain`s so called foreign policy experience on
1. the Iraq war
2. negotiation with Iran
3. the need to focus on Afghanistan
4. Iraq withdrawal plan
5. The conflict with Russia and Georgia
Now Bush is listening to Obama`s proposal on these issues and McCain has also started endorsing these proposals.
McCain economic policies are 95% in support of Bush which have been nothing but failure. McCain has experience but is offering the same failed Bush policies which has brought the country to its lowest since WW2.
Now America is borrowing money from communist China to fight in Iraq. Can you imagine another 4 or 8 years of this from a Republican White House.
This is superior judgment which Obama holds over McCain.

correction
no roll call = FU to 18 MILLION voters
Posted by: geevill
Trust me, there aren’t nearly that many but the sentiment is correct!

Iris Eddy |
With 2 million new voters, who cares?

I wouldn’t write Hillary off yet. There is the lawsuit filed Aug 21 for release of documents to prove that Obama is not a U.S. citizen.
Obama is a fraud and the American people are catching on to it.
McCain is a shoo in for president.

re: Polls, I got a poll call and the first time I voted was the primary. Most of those, who are newly registered voters, did vote in the 2008 primary. The pollsters don’t call everyone, they only call a sample of the target groups. This is the reason that there is always a ‘margin of error’ in the numbers which can change daily. Same way with the TV ratings, not everyone is polled.

UNITY UNITY UNITY!!!!
ARE AMERICANS LOOKING FOR MORE WARS AND INTERNATIONAL ISOLATION.
WHAT IS RELIGION IF RACISM IS PREVALENT IN AMERICA?
IF AMERICANS LOVE JESUS WILL THERE BE SO MANY SECTS OF CHRITIANITY IN USA?
WILL INFIGHTING WITHING DEMOCRATIC PARTY GIVE IT VICTORY IN THE GENERAL ELECTION?
FOXES AND FOXNEWS GROUP ARE GOING TO STEAL THE SHOW. WAKE UP HILLARIANS AND OBAMANIANS!!! MORE IS AT STAKE THAN SILLY POLITICS!! BE A PROUD AMERICAN. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE USA A LAUGHING STOCK IN THE INTERNATIONAL ARENA. SHOW TRUE PATRIOTISM BY ELECTING THE FUTURE OF USA – OBAMA THE BALM TO HEAL THE SORES OF YESTER YEARS!!
VIVEK.

PEACE BE STILL!!!
This came to mind this morning before I read the article and blogs comments. Only the wise, knowledgeable and intelligent will know what this mean, were it came from and why its so important now! In this political time! plus No more 8 years of the same…..

No Talking bad about Obama , shut up, enough. We are protecting free speech.

be calm. He won’t get voted in. From the appearance of the typical response of a Nobama supporter, they won’t be able to figure out even how to vote.
I, too, am disappointed that Hillary did not get the nomination. And, I, too, feel that he is too inexperienced, and too naive to be the next President. I’d be open to it after he had more years to show us who he is, and what he can do. But for now, I’m a ….
Democrat for McCain

Can it dnc_USSR or our pedophile base may vote for the dnc candidates.

Factcheck is an “I love me” website started by self-proclaimed love guru himself – Fauxbama.
Read something REAL for once!!!
Wall Street Journal article…
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120450564143806509.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

“Clinton yet again shows us her genius. When she “releases” her delegates, then ALL delegates are released, obama’s as well since there is technically no one holding delegates when she releases hers. His are then free to vote as they please, just as Hillary’s are and I’m sure Hillary’s delegates are intelligent enough (or have been explained to) to realize this and to share it with those Obama delegates who are are experiencing buyer’s remourse.
When Hillary “releases” her delegates, then ALL delegates are “FREE” since there is only one person claiming tho hold any and when the role call vote is made, ALL delegates can vote for anyone they so desire. This may be the most ingenious idea ever thought of by any candidate in any race in this nation. A role call must be made in order to officially make a nomination.
No pledged delegates for any opponent=no pledged delegates for anyone. Every delegate may vote as they see fit. By releasing her own, she realeases obama’s as well, with or without his consent since there is no longer a contending person to hold pledged delegates and all are free to vote as they wish.”

I find it really funny that Obama is holding a “One Nation” town hall meeting right now. But which nation is it? Is it Kenya, Indonesia… Oh wait he’s talking about the U.S. because he’s talking negative again. Why does he even want to be president if he hates living here so much?

excuse the typos – trying to finish before lunch is up….

T- Holding your nose to vote for someone is no way to vote.

Excellent post T, but, AS USUAL, these clowns will not vote on issues. They will vote on who they prefer to have lunch with. All the while they are getting laid off, their family members are on their 3rd tour, and this deficit is growing so fast, our great-grandchildren will be paying it off!!!!
Same ‘ol s@!t…..different day.

Donna Brazile said:
- “In order to “save” the Democratic Party, Brazile resolved back in 2003 that she might have to destroy it first. And who better to help her in this lofty pursuit than her new best friend, the man neoconservatives call “The Architect” [AKA Karl Rove].”
- Quit if the superdelegates decided the outcome.
She is a liar and needs to go!

I love how Obama smiles. His laugh. His lips. His aura is awesome, too. Those sweet, sweet words that make the ladies in the crowd swoon. He’ll call you “sweetie” even when you are at work. He’s the one we’ve all be waiting for.

How wonder how many of these with negative comments on either Clinton or Obama are republicans?

Boy, just passing through folks…..I see the republican trolls are still posting as Clinton supporters.
Look, why don’t you idiots go over to fakeNews…..it’s down the street.

yoga82: says at 12:25pm
She doesn’t care Whether Senator Obama is black, purple, green or whatever, it is his experience and character that matter. Yet Obama has never called his wife a trollope and a C_NT in front of the press. Obama was never caught up in the Keating Five. Obama has never cheated on wife or left her and his children for a rich woman. So much for character.
yoga82: says
Senator Obama has not demonstrated superior judgment. Obama has a difficult time taking a stance on any political issue because he has The 120+ present votes in Illinois shows that Senator Obama can’t make a decision. Yet John McCain has missed 407 votes (63.8%) during the current Congress
yoga82: says
Georgia – He is head of the Senate committee and not one meeting was held because he was too busy campaigning for President.
DAH! Your right Obama has been running for President, so whats your point. McCain hasn’t done much himself.
yoga82 says:
Obama has two positions on gun control, Iraq, oil drilling, Iran, FISA, public financing and so on.
You think Obama has a problem on flip flopping check McCain’s flip flops out for yourself.
http://www.bi30.org/wordpress/flipflopper.htm
So much for your argument, me thinks your just a racist like I said hiding like a cameleon behind your own BULL- $H!T. Just like a lot of cowards on this board.

I am so tired of the best thing that the Obama camp can come up to vote for Obama is McCain’s first marriage didn’t work out. Newsflash, 1/2 of all marriages end in divorce, this is especially the case with military members due to long deployments and other long term absences such as being POW, and for the last time—McCain and and his first wife were separated before he and Cindy began dating.

Orlando
Stop using the race baiting attacks against anyone that doesn’t support Senator Obama. BO is unqualified to be the POTUS.
Do you have a job? Can you walk in and fake your way into your position without experience?
“With experience comes the knowledge of what works and what does not work. With experience comes the wisdom of not only recognizing your strengths, but your weaknesses.”
The American public does not trust Senator Obama. When you hurl racists accusations against Hillary’s or McCain’s supporters, you are showing your weakness and fear. Senator Obama inspires the worst traits in his followers. The American public is not blind to the intimidation and threats of BO’s supporters.

Fairelection2008, easy with the mask (names)
I do not like responding with people that has fairy tales names. I will answer your question.
He told the truth. He is a PASTOR that is his job to speak the truth. His comments will go before the Most High GOD. He answers to GOD not the politics in America. If there is slavery in America and slavery is wrong, it is his job to tell the truth just like every Christian Pastor’s in America. Did you walk in his shoes or better have you ever walk in black man shoes? His experience with America was very hurtful and America never forgives her crimes committed to black during that era. I do not agree everything his says but I do understand his pain.
You do have a Pastor at your church and do you believe in everything he/she say? No, but you do understand what he/she is saying.

If Obama doesn’t win, I will hold you PUMA members responsible…..and when and if Hillary’s turn comes around in 2012, you can rest assured we will return the favor! She will loose the black vote as well, so be careful what you decide today, because it may come back to haunt you later!

All of you idiots claiming to be Democrats but voting for a republican live in a fantasy world. Our economy, debt and the lack of social programs to help the people who live in America has suffered because of Republicans. Do us all a favor change your party to DUMB, because if McCain wins the suffering of America will continue and if you are votinf for that there is no need to call yourself a Democrat.

Quit blaming hillery, and put the blame squarly where it belongs, thats on the shoulders of the corrupt dnc, I like the one about the turtle on the fence post, that fits just about wright!! vote country not party

Why all the name calling and ugly attacks? America, if you think the Democratic Party is for you, you are wrong. I don’t know when it happened but the record shows how corrupt they are. Look what they did to Hillary and how they choose the candidate instead of letting the people decide. Shameful, I think we need to shake up this country and everyone should become an independent thinker. What is important is our loyalty to our Country not loyalty to the party. Our Country comes first! If you feel like McCain can deliver our Country to a better place than vote for him, if you feel like Obama is better, vote for him. But please do not think that people who cross over to the other side on this vote are racist or emotionally challenged, give us a break. What if you feel like neither candidate is good? Vote for the lesser of the two evils? Stop beating eachother up and get real. Our Country deserves better and the two parties need a shake up.
Independants Unite.

BHO (Bone headed Obama) is a radical, bully, compulsive liar, inexperienced and who knoes what else will come out about him. I am ashamed to be called a democrat when DNC elected a LESS QUALIFIED MAN over a brilliantly qualified WOMAN.
True Americans like me will put country over the party and vote for McCain!

GO PUMA: We must start a campaign – Can Obama get Security Clearance? If not then how the hell can he be our President?
McCain is the second best choice after Hillary.
McCain 2008/Hillary 2012

Here are some of BHO’s lies, misjudgments and boneheaded decisions and flip-flops.
• BHO is naïve to hope that ‘change we can believe in’ mantra will still work after he picks a Washington insider, who has reaped money from lobbyists for decades, to be his running mate
• BHO has AUDACITY TO HOPE that Americans will not look at the character of the person to be president and he will be able to mislead them with his smoke and mirror tactics and speeches.
• BHO claims to have good JUDGEMENT, but contradicts himself by keeping relationships with anti-Americans, terror-mongers and racists for 20+ years
• BHO claims to be the MESSIAH of HOPE, but says ‘people cling to religion and cling to guns’ out of frustration. Is BHO equating Americans to ‘terrorists’ where the terrorists usually claim that they ‘cling’ to religion and guns out of frustration and economic woos?
• BHO claims to be a UNITER, but always tried to divide America on RACE and ECONOMIC INEQUALITIES
• BHO is trying to court the PRO-LIFE Americans by lying about his voting record, but also publically said that he would not PUNISH his daughters with babies.
• BHO claims to be INTELLIGENT and EXPERIENCED but proves that he is DUMB and NAÏVE by rolling out plan WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING the real situation by visiting the war zone and getting briefed by the Generals on ground who know the best.
• BHO talk about leveling fields as a non-politician. BHO entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. BHO back stabbed his friend and mentor Alice Palmer by nullifying Palmer’s nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw.
• BHO was DEFENDING Wright’s anti-American, racist rants until his lack of credibility was exposed by Mr. Wright when he said “Obama had to say what he said as a politician”, thus bringing BHO down to the ORDINARY politician level where he really belongs.
• BHO claims to be ‘TRUE’, but he is full of lies like – he never opposed hand guns, He never heard Mr. Wright making the incendiary quotes, He never said – he will not wear flag lapel pin, He is against NAFTA but had his adviser meet privately with the Canadian government to assure them he didn’t really mean what he said about NAFTA and the list goes on and on
• BHO wants us to BELIEVES in CHANGE, but the kind of CHANGE he is really talking about is to go down to his knees to negotiate unconditionally to Iran’s Ahmadinejad, Hamas and other terrorist groups.
• BHO’s claims to be a STRONG speaker – but only when he is reading a teleprompter. Look at his goofs when there is no such aid available – “I have been to 57 states and 1 to go” or “veterans who lost there lives, some of which are in the audience” or “Arabic translators taken from Iraq and sent to Afghanistan” or “he’d like to meet with “President Maliki” when he travels to Iraq.
• BHO is TOUGH enough to throw his grand mother under the bus, but he neither has GUTS to repudiate his anti-American, racist pastor nor has GUTS to vote NO to stop Adult Porn Shops from opening up next to our children’s schools.
• BHO took 20 years to finally accept that his pastor is an anti-American. BHO is an opportunistic liar.
• BHO Claims to be a PATRIOT, but refuses to wear flag lapel pin and his wife Michelle says: For the first time in her adult life she is proud of this country and America is a mean country
• BHO claims to be the better Commander-in-Chief, but how can he get that position if he can not even obtain the Top Security Clearance?
• BHO says WORDs MATTER, but is always short of words and steals them from others and constantly demands the people whom he insults to give him the benefit of the doubt for his misspeaks.
• He says he is Washington Outsider, but admitted in the debate that his campaign played negative tactics against Clinton in PA. BHO has more Washington Insiders endorsing him thus OWEs to them something that will MAKE HIM BIGGEST WASHINGTON INSIDER.

Attention: Hillary`s support, How do you feel about vp president that Obama picked Biden? Obama is tricking on Hillary . That`s shame. Maybe you all should vote Mcain instead of Obama. o to vote Mcain!!!!

Nobambi 08!
I love how Obama is trying to wiggle out of a legitimate 50 State (not 57 State) + territories roll call as he knows he probably won’t have enough delegates to win. He’s doing exactly the same thing that was attempted with FDR in his first election. Obama , the popular vote loser, can go to h__l.

Neil1785 you sound like a racist.Was it really necessary for you to use the
term that you used? Were you expressing anger at Black people? Is this what the Presidential Election has become. It sure sounds like it to me. Lets get the FACTS straight. First, Clinton is nothing more than power hungry, she is a phony with a plastic smile. Second, McCain is Sooo out of touch with reality he’s laughable. Third, Obama might not have alot of experience but he sincerely has the desire to change this country, but his obstacles will be many.Unfotunately. And why, because of people like you in this world. People like you who just can’t stand the thought of having a Black Man in the position of power, running this country. This very country that has done everything they could to keep black people down. Clinton’s group is nothing more than a bunch of sore losers that need to grow up. Out of all three candidates Obama is more intouch with reality and his election will set forth a precedent that has been a long time coming. So, all you people out there picking Obama apart I know what your real issues are so why don’t you just say so. That’s the real reason most of you will change parties and vote for McCain the insane.

I have read most of the days comments and can only say…the Obama supporters think that if you do not vote for Obama then you must be a stupid idiot and not a true democrat..the idea of voting is to vote for who you think IS the best candidate…the person who is honest, reliable, trustworthy and able to handle difficult situations…that, in my opinion after being a democrat all my life is NOT Obama! If Obama had not saddled himself with his pastor for 20 years, his anti american friends and had a better record in the senate maybe I would give him a look, however, everything about him reeks of no good! That is not my choice of a potus! I just finished his book Audicity and in his own words sounds scary. I also read Obama Nation and researched the data…88% of that book was truth..Obama is a very scary guy who, in my opinion, is a very dirty person!

I am calling each one of you so-call Democrats (Republican troll) Angryblackwoman, yoga82, CJ, Debra, Sonia Trevino, and others. I want to ask you one question and only one question with no bullsh** answer. Sen. Clinton (who you want as President so badly) stated numerous times that she is backing Sen. Obama numerous times and is vouching for him. Remember, ABC, NBC, CNN, and FOX News stated that Obama and Clinton almost (90%) shares the same views. Both of their views are (95%) different from McCain. Some of you stated that Obama is a clone of Hillary if that is the case then why are you voting against her views?

wow CJ you should work for fox news, arrguments seem equally brilliant. As for Hillary being the VP, don’t you people realize she doesn’t want to be the VP? They already have a deal in place and he needs to get elected for it to come to pass. Also, all you people who talk of experience – look how all the insider experience of the current administration has aided our cause and country. Our just ask mccain about the “pakistani and iraqi border” (also known as Iran) to get a feel for his knowledge of the world. I have great respect for mccain, as I do for many once brilliant and now fading elders, but to elect them? Come On! The biggest problem in our country today is the abillity for the modern day jack-ass to get on these blogs and spout off as though they know what they are talking about, when half of it is simply repeating something someone else made up (CJ). If you paid attention the the candidates and party leaders, and how they are playing this out, and not the pundits you all seem to mimic, you’d probably realize that you are the reason they have so much trouble wading through the BS. The rants aimed at one another listed above is why the elephant in the room gets to do what ever he wants – your to busy chasing the rabbits he set out to keep you preoccupied. I only say this as a stratagist for such people, and though I hate my job, you people make me money. Keep on chasing each other around – place mccain on the mound – and drive yourselves further into obscurity. Oh…and thanks for playing your part….

I’ll take four more years of “George Bush” over four years of Obama, and I’m not alone. And you can bet on it.

By the way, on the security clearance issue – if a cocain snorting, booze drinking friend of the Saudi’s (who paid to train the terrorists he chases)- all of which occured in his adult life post college and after having children – can become president, I think Obama will be fine. Especially now that we know the president can manufacture any evidence he or she likes to manipulte whatever he or she likes – perhaps an illegal war – and not have to answer for it. Hell, just elect the Gambinos-what we have in place now is no different.

Chris
Senator Obama cheated in the caucuses. It is documented in a film called “We Will Not Be Silenced.” He paid superdelegates to endorse him in states that Hillary won. His supporters have threatened politicians, bloggers, writers, voters, and anyone that opposes Senator Obama.
More importantly, he is unqualified to be the POTUS. He represents the old guard of the party. Bundlers representing all types of lobbyists are backing him.
Short of a miracle with Senator Clinton as the nominee, we have no choice but to vote for Senator McCain.

And yoga82 you and the moronic Americans who vote for McInsane deserve everything they get for the years to come.

Everyone knows that republicans have inferior brains. It’s a scientific fact. Look it up. They idolize the most ignorant intellectually bankrupt people known to mankind.Why do you think they call Liberals elitist? Because they are so stupid they can’t keep up. To them anyone that’s an intellect is an elitist. How pathetic!

I am really tired of the press saying Obama won the Primaries..we can do the math and now with full votes for all delegates he is not even the presumptive nominee. This whole thing was a scam and stinks to high heaven. There is not one single reason why Hillary Clinton shouldn’t be fighting and in to win! She is part of the scam is the only thing I can come up with!

Hallelujah! Divine intervention will be needed to end this Obama nightmare. Let’s hope and pray the Dems will wise up and nominate the ONLY candidate who can win in November, Hillary Clinton, the most qualified, most electable, most deserving, Hillary has already won the popular vote, winning MORE votes than ANY candidate of ANY party in history!
Superdelegates, do your job and nominate Hillary. Obama is NOT qualified or electable. Obama has destroyed the Democratic party.
It’s Hillary or McCain 08 and Hillary 2012.
Country first, party second.
“You must do the one thing you think you cannot do” Eleanor Roosevelt
“No self respecting woman should wish for or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex” Susan B. Anthony

ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN CORRUPTION AND IMMORALITIES!!!
this time,
DEMOCRATS ALL THE WAY!!

Hillary did not lose. She made it in second place.
This is a fact:
If Hillary supporters do not help democrats in this coming election, democrats will not help Hillary in the next one.
Democrats will not forget either.
Democrats will not forget that because of them, Mc will put 4 new Judges who will take women’s right out of the kitchen and will install the Draft.
By then no matter who becomes the next president, this country will be gone and Hillary will not matter anymore because she will not be able to do absolutely anything.

I remember conventions from many years ago when it was pretty normal to hear a first roll call vote in honor of the hard work that had gone into winning delegates. Let it roll! Let the delegates speak for themselves on the first vote; to do otherwise, is to dismiss the hard work of supporters for all the candidates. (Sorry to all the Edwards supporters, you were duped!) Then the DNC can get on with the business of unity for the chosen candidates after a second vote. To do otherwise will only lead to more dissatisfaction. Respect is always better than choosing to ignore…

The Clinton’s couldn’t win the primaries and now they are trying to make a rucuss at the convention. They are just sole losers, trying to make the winner bow down to them as if they are still in power. This is ridiculous. This kind of fiasco has never happened in any other convention in the past. Losers should learn how to gracefully exit the lime light. The problem here is that there is not one Clinton to deal with, there are two. Bill lost his cool during the primaries and he is going to show the world that he still is a sore loser during the convention. One should have asked the Clinton’s, Ferraro, Carville and the nut extractor Jesse Jackson to take a vacation to the Caymen islands during the convention rather than invite them there to cause trouble.

Actually, a lot like Bush!
Both would be arrogant puppets – difference being you knew who Bush’s handlers were; it’s not clear who would be pulling Obama’s strings.

The reference to Justice Thomas was NOT meant to be racially derogatory, but meant to illustrate that a President is usually given his choice regardless of what party controls.
I offer my sincere apologies for the any misunderstandings.

I just wasted an hour reading down through all the ‘wisdom’ on this site. To be honest, it is a little unnerving to see the shallowness of character of my fellow-Americans and their mindless support for either Obama or Clinton.
True, McCain isn’t much better. They all support bigger government interference in peoples lives for bogus trumped-up reasons (like global warming), not personal freedom and individual responsibility. They all promote a bigger nanny-state run by the all-wise government to care for all us imbeciles out here. Excuse me, but turning over healthcare to the same government beuracracy that botched Katrina…does that seem wise to you? Yet the same people who screamed so loud about Katrina are the same ‘progressives’ that drool over government run health care.
The government doesn’t solve problems…it creates problems. This is called ‘socialism’. Can anyone point to any socialist system of government or program in human history that has ever worked over time? The more things we ‘socialize’ the worse waste and corruption they yield (i.e. U. S. public education, i.e. France!)
This is America, not Europe! If you want socialism, move there! We are a representative republic! We believe in freedom and responsibility, not big brother government to solve my every need and satisfy my every desire.
Let’s go back to the basics…everyone read the declaration of independence and the constitution of the United States. Actually read them for yourself…then if you really desire wisdom over the frantic panting and spewing and name-calling which I am finding on this blog, go back to the Bible from which our founders gleaned the wisdom to draw up the greatest documents of freedom and responsibility this world has EVER seen.
As far as presidential candidates go, let’s see if we can find a statesman rather than a politician in 2012. The three we are talking about are all about the same. They will say and do whatever they think will get them elected. Let’s take a look at a guy like Bobby Jindal next time around. I’m sure he’s not perfect either, but I believe he won’t try to recreate himself to get elected. I think he will at least tell us the truth about who he is and what he believes, then let the people decide.
Thanks for listening and thanks ahead of time for all the name-calling I will recieve on this. May God bless you all.

I think lots of Hillary supporters all over the country are just starting to realize that PUMAs / JSND exist (we haven’t exactly had a big marketing budget :>) ) — and, as frustrated as many of us are at how the DNC/BO are subverting the process in Denver, probably thousands more are just starting to realize they are not alone.
PUMAs in Denver — get that JSND website out there!!
Thanks for being there!
(PS Also, this new discovery of PUMA by Hillary supporters may account for BOs numbers getting even worse — as others realize they don’t just have to go along — free at last!)

PUMAs will hand this election to McCain. Roll call or no roll call.
But remember kids, Captain Arugula and Guilt Gurl will return to their mansion for another exciting adventure. Look! Up in the sky! It’s a bore! It’s so plain! It’s… Captain Aruuuugulaahhh!

I am so tired of hearing about Obama’s lack of experience. Look at Dubya’s experience and tell me where that has gotten this country. I’m also tired of hearing Clinton supporters whine about her losing the Dem nomination. For too long have these “feminists” been crying and stamping their feet because they haven’t gotten their way…GET OVER IT! We’ve got bigger frickin fish to fry!!!
Clinton’s supporters are irrational and emotional…they’re a bunch of women. This is one instance where I have to agree with men and their assessment of the fairer sex (gasp). After all, these “educated, intelligent, strong” women would rather put McCain’s old a** in the chair for 4-8 years (and finish destroying this country) rather than voting for another Democrat???
Maybe, just MAYBE this is a sure fire sign that a woman shouldn’t be president. Because if Clinton’s supporters’ reaction to her loss is any indication of how a woman handles pressure and disappointment in politics, she’s better off watching from the sidelines. Yeah, I said it, so pick your jaws up off the floor and deal with it!

DCarroll,
I realize that not all of Clinton’s supporters are women. I also understand that they are not one type of anything. My point is that when I come onto these message boards, or when I read articles or watch television, I see nothing but women creating a huge brouhaha over Clinton’s loss. In the beginning I was torn between Clinton and Obama…if it were up to me, they both would be in the White House.
Also, if Barack Obama had lost the nomination I would’ve been disappointed. However, I would’ve gotten over it and voted for Clinton in November because I understand that voting for McCain out of SPITE will endanger this country more than Hillary supporters seem to understand.
You say that Obama is “getting in” the same way Bush did. I beg to differ. Bush stole an ENTIRE presidency…and I’ll leave it at that.
The entire point to my post was this: I don’t understand why putting McCain in the chair is a better choice than choosing someone whose politics are so much more closely aligned with Senator Clinton’s. The only conclusion I can draw from this is that you all are doing it out of spite.